August 15, 2025 • 55 mins
Coming together in the aftermath of WW2, Le Cercle has operated in the shadows perhaps better than any other group. Oh, you've seen their handiwork and know the names of many of their members, but that's about all we know. Who is Le Cercle? What do they do? Why do they operate with such secrecy and why did one journalist claim they make the Bilderberg group look like child's play?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Welcome everybody, NWCZ radio dot com Channel ones down the
rabbit hole. I'm Big d. It's the midweek edition. Thanks
for jumping in with me here. I have a group
today that we're going to discuss that is brand new
to even me, and it's because they are very secretive.
We're going to talk about a super secret group that
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is controlling or has been accused of controlling many many
things around the world. You know, we think Builderberg Group,
we talk about the Illuminati Council on Foreign Relations, and
all of these are fairly well known. They weren't always.
There was a time when they were very secretive, especially
the Builderberg Group. I was reading a fiction book. It
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was a political thriller, and in this book they made
a reference to this shadowy group called Lis Circle cer
cl E and there was an asterisk next to the name. Now, again,
this is a fiction book, so I just assume this
is something they made up.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
There was an asterisk.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I followed the asterisk to the footnotes, and it
gave a very basic statement about this Les Circle group
being an actual group that is actually a very secretive
political group. So that piqued my interests. I went down
the rabbit hole, and that is what we're going to
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bunch of other great shows Fringe Radio Network. Let's get
into this les circle. And I'm not kidding. I have
read multiple books, probably close to one hundred books on
secret societies, Illuminati, Builderberg, Tavistock, I mean, the list goes
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on and on of these shadowy think tanks, secret groups,
groups that are run by heads of state and important
people all around the world, and we've discussed most of them.
I had never ever run across this group in any
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of them. The text Mars book Creature from Jaco Island
by G. Edward Griffith, none of them have covered this group,
which surprises me. To my knowledge. I don't think they're
part of this group because it doesn't seem to me
it would fit their style. I just think this is
a super secret group and maybe they don't have as
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much sway as is being leveled against them. But as
we go through this, you're gonna see there's some very
powerful people in this group who want things done on
a global scale, and they seem to be very high up,
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and they work hand in hand, a lot of crossovers
with the Builderbergs, with the Masons, with Tavistock and all
these groups, Bohemian Grove, you name it, so let's dive
into it. This list circle used to be known as
the Pinnae Circle or Circle Pinnae by its original French founders,
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and this group was named after a French statement who
was Prime Minister from March to December of nineteen fifty two.
He was the primary organizer of this group and his
name was Jean Vila or Violet. So who is this
Jean Violets? And I know I'm probably saying that wrong.
It's it looks like Violet v I L E. T.
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I don't speak French, but I know sometimes you just
dropped that last letter.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So it could be Volet.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know, but this guy has a very shady pass,
to say the least.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
His name is.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Part of this pre World War II secret committee called
the CSAAR.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It was a secret.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Fascist group, kind of like the Freemasons in the sense
that it had its own initiation rights, they had secret handshakes,
they met in secrecy.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You weren't allowed to know who they were.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
In fact, some authors have suggested that CSAAR, popularly known
at the time as the Hooded Ones, was one of
the most important branches of the legendary synarchist movement of Empire,
and was there working to undermine the French Republic in
preparation for the coming Nazi invasion. So we don't really
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know exactly how involved this guy was in this, but
he was arrested after the war for having collaborated with
the Nazis. Then he was released on quote orders from above.
And went to work as a lawyer in Paris and
decided to become part of Opus Day. And we have
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not done a show on Opus Day that is on
our list, but Opus Day is secretive and dangerous in
their own right. In nineteen fifty one, Vallet came into
contact with Antoine Pennay, who was a Catholic and also
along to Opus Stay, who asked him to solve a
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problem with the Geneva based firm that had been seized
by the Nazis during.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
World War Two.
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And as the story goes, Penay was so impressed with
the way Voileet handled his assignment that he recommended him
to French intelligence. Through this he got hooked up with
a bunch of luminaries and dignitaries and they founded this
influential think tank called the European Center of Documentation and Information.
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And then it goes through a lot of these groups
that they were a part of, kind of in and
out of, and he hooked up with a guy named
Conrad and an hour, a guy named Franz Joseph Bach
and friends Joseph Strauss. These were all controversial figures from
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Bavaria and from Germany and basically from over there in
Europe and they all founded Les Circle. And according to
a nineteen ninety five document unearthed by Swiss researcher Adrian Hanny,
it revealed that Le Circle was founded in nineteen fifty
two to nineteen fifty three by all these characters. So
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that's the official timeline. Because a lot of things you'll
look at and there's not a lot out there about
this group. It took me quite a bit to find
some substantial information. Most things will say it started somewhere
quote in the fifties, but there's been some documents that
have been unearthed by some of the members. One guy
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left his briefcase somewhere with some orders, and we'll get
to all of that, but that's pretty much when it started,
nineteen fifty two to nineteen fifty three. According to this
article says there were more important individuals involved in the
early days of Le Circle. There was Robert Schumann, Jean Monnette,
in addition to Antoine Piney himself. They were all basically
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meeting up in France. Schulman was the French Prime Minister
from forty seven to forty eight and French Foreign Minister
from forty eight.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
To fifty three.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Jean Monnette was Planning Commissioner of the National Economic Council
from forty five to fifty two and appointed by de Gaul.
He carried out essential work for the reconstruction of the
French economy. He was connected to the highest financial and
political circles in North America, Great Britain, Mainland, Western Europe
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and was one of the major players in the push
for an integrated Europe in the aftermath of World War II.
And what they really were pushing for was what we
have now is the EU, this massive control one Europe.
They're the ones who were behind all of this. Also,
according to another article, they say while much of the
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groundwork for the European Union was laid by this group
and their liberal estabf bish Flint and their liberal establishment backers,
Circle founder Jean Boulet himself also played an important behind
the scenes role. Several years after the European Economic Community
the EEC was founded, and at one point they say,
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a very interesting aspect of a circle is that it
used to be a strictly Catholic group from Maineland Europe,
involving Vatican representatives, Italians, French and Germans. However, much more
recent reports revealed that the leadership of LES Circle has
been in the hands of the British for many decades.
This change was set in nineteen seventy one when British
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intelligence asset Brian Crozer was brought into LA Circle and
soon started cherry meetings.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So how did this all work?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Because eventually they roped in the United States, and they've
roped in Canada, and they've roped in basically all of
the West is part of this let Circle. It still
is in operation today and I'll get to the current
news about it at some point here in this program.
But essentially LES Circle operated about twice a year where
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a small group of international representatives from intelligence services and
academics would come together and mainly discuss Franco German reproachment.
So they would discuss the business of Europe, Germany, France,
the EU essentially, and they would pick leaders. They would
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use the rules of you're not here to represent anybody.
Nothing leaves this room. We don't talk about what happens here.
There's no reporters. However, we come up with ideas, we
share ideas, and we take them back, much like the
Builderberg Group. The United States joined in in the sixties,
according to a document the CIA's Congress of Cultural Freedom
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and the IrDA, British and Intelligence and other intelligence linked groups.
This is when they got involved. According to an article
in the US News and World Report says the theme
was terrorist and communist intentions. On reading this interview, a
Frenchman named Jean Volet came to see me in my
Piccadilly office with an introduction from Francois Duchnet, my former
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economist colleague and director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Boilet impressed me with the clarity and precision of his
arguments and with the breath of his intellectual grasp of
world problems. And then what they did is they would
write articles, they would seek to influence politicians, and they
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would seek to put key people in key positions so
that they could get their agenda done. And they're still
doing that to this day. It's a lot of names
that you've probably not heard of unless you're very well
versed in European politics. And I'll get into some of
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the names you will recognize that are from the United
States and some key figures around the world. But early
on it was primarily people from Germany, from France, Italy,
from England. I find this interesting because occasionally they would
find themselves in the media. However, according to this article,
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Le Circle has gone by a number of names in
the media. Some of these names appear to refer to
the more exclusive coordinating group or executive committee discussed in
these early chapters. The source of a Circle League who
will be discussed later acknowledged the existence of such an
inner group. David Rockefeller's reference to Pezentti group might have
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also been a reference to this inner circle. Yeah, and
David Rockefeller is definitely involved in this. The same goes
for the Penay Committee that appeared in documents of Brian
Krozer's Institute for the Study of Conflicts. It was leaked
in nineteen seventy five to Time Out magazine, the first
known public reference to Les Circle. However, in the magazine
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it was referred to as Committee penn A. There was
also a document in the nineteen eighty six Belgian police
report on Opus Day where they referenced this group. So
they have been very very good at being secretive, and
even if things leak out, things get out, it has
always come out under a different name. Several different names
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in fact, so that they can't be penned down. Another
thing that I found interesting is there's a lot of
reference to six and CIA being involved in this, officers
higher ups who their names have appeared on different documents
that were found, especially in the eighties and the nineties.
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With that that being said, the United States primarily got
involved in the late sixties. Big surprise, right According to this.
In October nineteen sixty seven, Keys Circle member and finance
here Carlo Pacente the second took David Rockefeller aside at
a Chase investment forum in Italy and revealed to him
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the existence of Le Circle. Now again, remind you David
Rockefeller at that time was one hundred percent involved in
the Builderbergs. From that meeting, seven months later, in May
nineteen sixty eight, Rockefeller attended a First Circle meeting in Rome.
At the time, David's brother, Nelson, Richard Nixon, and Ronald
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Reagan were all competing for the Republican nomination. Says based
on this ever present Rockefeller influence, it is no surprise
that Le Circle started making overtures to Rockefeller in nineteen
sixty seven. In fact, on December sixth, nineteen sixty eight,
immediately after the Nixon election, the very first Circle meeting
was organized in the United States at Rockefeller Center, and
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there's a photo of it, and of course it has
David Rockefeller, one of the leaders from Belgium, and a
few other people at this gathering. So with Rockefeller being involved,
who's next up, who's the next big name from the
United States, Well, that would be Henry Kissinger according to this.
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In early nineteen sixty nine, David Rockefeller again appeared at
a Circle meeting, this time in Bavaria, in advance of
Nixon and Kissinger's efforts to strengthen the ties between the
United States and the European NATO countries. Kissinger accompanied Rockefeller
to Circle meetings on at least two occasions, July second,
nineteen sixty nine, and another on December second, nineteen seventy.
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Rockefeller and Kissinger served as a condom of information from
Les Circle to the Nixon administration and undoubtedly to many
of their establishment friends. One great example is David Rockefeller
handling Kissinger a document of a group calling itself sent
Unim that warns of clandestine quote communist infiltration into the
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Church network, including Latin America through progressivism modernism and liberalism.
The report asked the US government to finance traditionalist media
outlets within the Vatican network. Kissinger costumed Nixon against direct
financial contributions to right wing elements in the Church, but
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at the same wrote that quote much of what the
report said is probably true. Now, who was this sent Unim?
It was actually Le Circle, and how did they find
out these two groups were the same. So it says
identifying sent Unim as Les Circle isn't particularly hard and
Kissinger's National security memorandum scent Unem is described by one
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of its founders as a quote clandestine Catholic international organization
whose aims are to oppose communism and to further the
principles of Christianity. Regular meetings take place around the world,
from Paris to Rio de Janeiro. Key founders include French
Prime Minister Robert Schulmann, the German Chancellor Conrad Adenauer, Jean Violets,
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and is described as quote organizers and executive officers. So
it's the same people. That's how they figured it out,
Rockefeller explained in his memoirs. Eventually he withdrew from the
Circle over concerns that he might be quote concerting with reactionaries. However,
apart from a much more steady stream of US Christian conservatives,
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it appears that Rockefeller Kissinger network always kept some kind
of representation within the circle. If Rockefeller or Kissinger was
isn't there, you often had one or two persons with
a more liberal Eastern establishment background attending Circle conferences on
their behalf. So you had Paul Volker, Robert Knight, Sir
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Ronald Grierson, Adolf Mellon, a lot of people who were
in and around Kissinger and Rockefeller. Brazinski was there as well,
according to another article. As discussed extensively in the Pilgrim
Society article, David Rockefeller and friends all moonlighted for the
CIA and even formed a quote above CIA network due
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to close personal relationships to successive presidents and CIA directors.
By holding the position of National Security Advisor and other
top government positions and being at the nexus of basically
all key non government operations, David Rockefeller actually was briefed
by a variety of division chiefs on every thing that
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was going on. So his role in Builderberg, the Trilateral Commission,
the cfr Endless Circle can all be seen as one
large private intelligence operation and that is what was going on.
They were trying to and I believe they still are,
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to bring all these groups together, or there's a group
above them, which is what we would call the illuminati
or the powers that be, the global shadow leaders. And
these are the smaller groups, the groups that are just
below them, who all share members, but they all have
different tasks in order to reach the goals that they
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set or that are handed down to them. However you
want to see that, it could go many different ways.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
We don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And I find it interesting because there's a lot of
let'll say conservative commentator and even other commentators that I
listen to, who I think are quite bright, are very smart,
who will completely dismiss any idea of a world order
or any kind of a group that is seeking to
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run the world. And they will always try it out
where there is no proof. You have to show me proof,
you have to show me tangible evidence. And anytime something
like this comes up where they it all points to
the same thing, they will stop short and dismiss it
and say, that's just a think tank. They're not really
doing anything. Even if you get into their writings, and
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in their writings they explicitly say yeah, this is what
we're trying to do. Like the Council on Foreign Relations
who always talk about diminishing the population. You know, the
Builderbergs who want to run all of manufacturing industry. You
have the World Economic Forum who wants to change every
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thing and reset everything. They're all aiming in the same direction,
taking directives from some body, and they all come from
different countries. We saw that during COVID when every world
leader came out and said it's time to build back better,
it's time for a reset. Well, they don't all just
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come up with that on their own. Email went out,
there was a meeting that was had. It's been hatched
for years. And this is another one of those groups.
Le's Circle, according to Chris Blackhurst, and this was written
June twenty eighth, nineteen ninety seven. That's what he says
about le Circle. Formed in the fifties, Circle was intended
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to cebmit Franco German relations as a buffer to Soviet
aggression during the Cold War. Down the years, however, it
has become much more advocating right wing causes around the
world and growing into a confidential talking shop. For about
seventy politicians, businessmen, and personnel from the diplomatic and security services.
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Members are invited to attend its meetings. They cannot ask
to be admitted, and as a condition of attending, they
agreed to keep all sessions secret. It meets twice a year,
once in Washington, d C. In the autumn, and once
in the early part of the year in end quote
overseas venue. In the year two thousand, there was a
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single web page called www dot Atlantic Circle dot com
and it described the Circle as quote an informal group
of European and American professionals, politicians, retired ambassadors, former generals, lawyers,
bankers and active participants in banking, oil shipping, publishing and
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trading companies who are interested in preserving a positive Atlantic dialogue.
And to the UK House of Lords, where they were
inquiring about all of this, it was told to them
that this is a quote informal group meeting to discuss
world affairs. In two thousand and seven, the Washington Post
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termed it as quote foreign policy think tank established during
the Cold War that reportedly included senior politicians, diplomats, and
intelligence agents worldwide. And in nineteen eighty three there was
an article and it described in quote, the leaders of
the free world can now examine the very grave problem
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which we face in order to determine, to gather possible solutions,
and then try to implement them each in their respective sphere.
I've seen it referred to as a right wing think
tank or a think tank that's now funded by the CIA,
which churns out cold war concepts around the world. And
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for a while, and I'm not sure if this is
still the case, but i did read some mention that
for a time they had separate US and European chairs
for the two different meetings. So you had the spring
summer meetings, one in the US, one somewhere else, and
they had different chairs, different leaders for both of those groups.
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According to this, the US chairman is less publicized and
currently unknown, so the mention of quote the chairman will
probably be reference to the European chairman. European chairs include
Brian Crozier, Julian Amory, Christian Shilling, Jonathan Atkin, Norman Lamont,
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and it goes on. And these are all high up politicians.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Over in Europe.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The only US chairman identified was Ted Shackley and his
successor Richard McCormick. Those are the only ones that we
know of. Meetings last three to four days, and nowadays
there's about seventy guests that arrive, although the meetings used
to be smaller, perhaps just thirty five. Guests are almost
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always male, sometimes bring their wives, though it is unknown
to what extent, if any, that the wives are involved
in the meeting, and again this as compared to a
miliuse such as the Builderberg, membership of the Circle is
much less fluid. According to another article, the identity of
attendees to these meetings was largely a matter of conjecture
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until twenty eleven when a researcher published five guest lists
for La Circle meetings from the papers of French Circle visitors,
and this was in some French paper. The list included politicians, bankers, diplomats,
deep political actors, military officers, editors and publishers, some who
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have and others who had not retired. The participants, which
include some deep politicians, come almost exclusively from Western or
Western oriented countries. Many important members tend to be affiliated
with the aristocratic circles in London or obscure elements within
the Vatican, and accusations of links to fascism and synarchism
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are anything but uncommon in this milieu. So how do
these guys fund what they're doing. Obviously they're super duper rich.
These are all heads of massive companies, but not all
of them. A lot of them just have political power.
So some digging has been done and I can't verify this,
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but an article that I found said that the group
states that it is quote privately funded. Funding for the
group has changed over the years. Multinational companies, including Phillips
and Standard Electric, a subsidiary of American Itt Corporation, have
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given the group money. In nineteen seventy one, Shell contributed
a lump sum of thirty thousand pounds. The Ford Foundation
also donated twenty thousand pounds In the nineteen eighties. The
South African government was a major source of funds. In
nineteen ninety seven, The Independent suggested that the group is
CIA funded.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There are some traces of major major corporations, possibly the CIA,
big governmental oil companies, all the usual suspects are pouring
money into this group. Why would they do that just
because they like to sit around and think about things,
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talk about things, shake hands, have a nice little vacation.
According to another article I was reading, the nineteen eighty
two Langman papers were the first significant exposure of the
Circle's activities, confirming that the group was actively involved in
influencing Western European elections. Evidence of their involvement in other matters,
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such as weapons dealing and covert military actions remain circumstantial,
although since then there have come out some papers and
some notes from meetings where they do talk about starting wars.
What are they going to do about this group over here?
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Do they use sanctions? Do they go in and create
a psyop to where they create problems and pit two
groups against one another, and then they will back one
of the groups to assure that they win. It's very common.
They're very, very active for whatever reason. Down in South Africa.
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They launder money through there. They have a lot of
meetings down there. They prop governments up down there. There's
a lot of shady business that goes on down in
South Africa, in the Circle.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Is part of most of it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
According to this article, the Circle has also been accused
of actively destabilizing governments which opposes a conservative economic agenda.
One such example was go Whitland's Australian government. One of
the Circle members chaired the Conservative Monday Club to oppose
the decolonization policies of Harold Wilson. It prepared a coup
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against his Labor government. Two Circle members, Edward Lay and
Julian Lewis, started the Coalition for Peace through Security to
try to reverse the rise in popularity of CND. In
the US, the American Security Council started the Coalition for
Peace through Strength, which had comparable aims, and this was
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the opposition to nuclear disarmament. They didn't want any of
the European countries obviously to disarm their nuclear programs, while
at the same time they're pushing for it everywhere else. Also,
according to this article, the Circle, like the Builderberg Group,
is strongly focused on European integration, going back to the
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efforts of its early members to bring about a Franco
German reproachment. The significant presence of Opus Day members and
Knights of Malta, together with statements of the Vatican and
Otto von Hasburg, suggests an agenda of creating a new
quote Holy Roman Empire with borders from the Atlantic to
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the Black Sea and from the Baltic Sea to North Africa.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It goes on.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Interestingly, the latest generation of British Circle members, whose predecessors
were keen on joining the European Union, now seem to
want to keep Britain out of the emerging European superstate.
This is brexit, perhaps having lost faith that they can
become a significant force within Europe. Their American associates, however,
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would like for them to continue the effort of breaking
into the Franco German Alliance and possibly to establish a
new Anglo German Alliance. So it's a lot of back
and forth here. It's a lot of things to take in.
Bottom line is these individuals who belonged to the Circle
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have been meddling with the EU, NATO, nations, all of
Africa and around the globe since the fifties. Since post
World War Two, it has been their goal to reestablish
using Opus Day and the Vatican and any means necessary
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to re establish some sort of world order in their liking.
And this is why I believe they keep geting link
to the Builderberg group, and I think they are part
of the Builderberg group at large. If David Rockefeller's involved,
and I know it says, oh he backed out at
some point. The real reason David Rockefeller backed out is
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because of his investors in Chase. There's a long article
and he actually mentioned in his book that after he
went to these the Circle groups, some members of his
board of directives at Chase found out about it, told
him they didn't think it was a good idea, it
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was bad for business, and he was going to get outed,
and so he then quote quit, but he would send proxies,
he would send people on his behalf. So David Rockefeller
never actually bowed out of and neither did Henry Kissinger.
They were all working together with the different groups to
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form the one World government. And who are they taking
their directives from? That is the larger question. That's why
when you bring up the Illuminati or the powers that
be or the Shadow Hand or however you want to
reference it, and people roll their eyes and they're like,
that's never been proven.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You can't prove it on one level that is a fact.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Can I point to a person and say that individual
is definitely part of the Illuminati. I cannot do that.
But you have all these subgroups who have the same aim,
the same members started around the same time frame, some
a little earlier, some a little later, but their goals
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are pretty much all the same. There's some minutia different points,
such as this one is primarily you have OPU Stayah.
The Vatican, well, I don't know if that they're involved
with the Builderbergs. I do know they send reps to
the world I kind the Catholic Church certainly has sent
representatives and given their blessings at the openings of some
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of the World Economic Forum events, so that's happening. They're
also involved in a lot of covert military intervention. I
think we talked about that they're big on weapons dealing.
According to this article, I found this interesting. Ted Shackley
was involved in oil deals after he left the CIA
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in nineteen seventy nine, facilitated by his close friend and
fellow Circle member Conrad Gerber and oil smuggler John Deuce.
Joel Vander Region has suggested that Lecerque was important in
the organization of the nine to eleven attacks. And some
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people say, well, this is another one of those where
they're just going to throw everything together and because of
this is a shadowy group and we don't know what
they're involved in, we're just going to put everything on
their plate. But there's actually in one of these days
when we do the nine to eleven episodes, we go
really deep down that rabbit hole. There's some pretty legitimate
claims that they could have been involved in that, the
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Le Circle group. Now that I know who they are,
because at the time you were hearing, well, it's just
this shadowy group nobody really knows. I'm not sure. Well,
I think they have been outed, and I'm not above
believing that it could be this group. One of the
big breaks as far as exposing this group came in
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twenty seventeen. These were fresh documents that were all related
to Le Circle. And again, up until that point, there
were just drips here and there. People either believed it
or they didn't. Were they a plant? Were they trying
to throw your off track? Was it actually the Builder
Bergs who were kind of created this sort of fake
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other group over here, and they were when you would
chase that rabbit trail down while they actually did their business.
I read a long article about that about how for
a long time people thought Less Circle was a made
up group like Asia put out by the Builder Berks
or one of the other groups. So you would go
chase that knowing it would lead to nothing. However, twenty seventeen,
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Graham van Bergen published what's called Meet Liss Circle, making
builderberg look like amateurs. And he published this in a
magazine called True Publica, and then it was picked up
by a bunch of independent websites and so forth. And
here's just some highlights of what he found in there,
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because one of the things that he located was there
was a briefcase and then there were some notes that
were left behind that he got a hold of that
were all the circle meeting itinerary notes, instructions. Somebody just
left them in a hotel. They don't know who it
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was because there was nobody's name on it. And when
he got them and he dug into them and verified that,
oh yeah, they had been at such and such a
place during such and such a time. There were things
on there that proved that it was absolutely true that
these were not plants. This wasn't some sort of somebody
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put some fake paper somewhere, and there are photographs online
where you can look at them, and so I do
believe that they were real. Everybody believes they're real. According
to one of the things he found, Hans Lingaman says
the circle consists of a loose gathering of various conservatives
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and anti communist politicians, publicists, bankers and VIPs. They meet
twice a year. It's original in from the former French
Prime Minister Pennay. The Circle, which still exists today, also
invites guest speakers. One recent development is the establishment within
the Circle of Command a staff or of an inner Circle,
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which then works out particularly suitable means for action or
current political questions.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Says.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
For instance, in the late nineteen seventies, the Cirque supported
Native's decision to station new medium range nuclear weapons. These
were Crews and Pershing two missiles in Britain, Germany, Belgium
and Holland targeted against the USSR. The Circle helped to
discredit the European peace protest movement, which emerged against the
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backdrop of nuclearization of Europe, through aggressive counter intelligence provocations
and disinformation. Participants at the Circle meetings report that a
major issue has been about how to bring the demise
of Western German Chancellor's helmet Schmidt's government. The issue dominated
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the last biennial meeting of the Circle that was hosted
by the Hans Seidel Foundation, the official think tank of
the opposition leader Franz Joseph Strauss Christian Social Union in Munich.
The Circles participants have been able to carry out an
inside job to destroy the Schmidt coalition government since then,
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and apparently they do this all over the world. That's
one of the things they do is they recruit people
who are on the inside, who are part of deep
state or non elected, who are in positions of power,
and they recruit them in, They tell them what their
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goal is, they get them on board, and they send
them back and they provide them with whatever they need
to accomplish this to create or to bring up opposition
psyops lies however you want to do it again, All
parties do it. They've done it both with i'll say
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conservative parties in power and democratic or liberal parties in
power because they don't care what party is in the
White House or Head of England or wherever they want
their agenda taken care of. They want it to be
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moved forward. They don't care who does it. Here are
some of the names of the known members, and there's
a ton there's a lot of I think about three
hundred or so have been outed, but I'm just going
to give you some names that you would know. Margaret
Thatcher would be one. You all know that. Paul Vanderhoven
I think you should know him, Jeffrey Tantum, Franz, Joseph Strauss,
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Tim Spicer, George Soros, Ron Silver, Ted Shackley, Norman Schwartzkoff,
Robert Schuman, William Schneider, Donald Rumsfeld, Nelson and David Rockefeller,
Charles Powell, Richard Nixon, Benjamin Nettan Yahoo, George Montgomery, George Mitchell,
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Herbert Meyer, Henry Kissinger, Alan Greenspan, Alan Clark, William Casey,
and the list goes on. Brazinski's in there, and then
a lot a lot of Oh, John Bolton's another one
that you would know. He's fairly current. Anyway, there are
tons and there's a lot of Europeans in there. I
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could say their names, you probably wouldn't know who they were.
I can send you this list. You can just follow
the links find out who they are. All top statesmen,
all top politicians, all top businessmen who are seeking once
again through this group, Let's circle, a secretive group to control.
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This group primarily is looking to control the entire European
region and for whatever reason, in Africa, So the West
and Africa, United States, Canada, Australia, England, Germany, France. You
just go down the list, the EU plus the West
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and Africa, which is where I believe that they go
down and they do all their shady dealings, and they
stockpile money and weapons, and you know, there's such loose
restrictions down there, they can pretty much do whatever they want.
That's where all the transfers take place. They just pay
off governments, prop up governments, and if they backstab them whatever,
they just give a bunch of money and weapons to
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the opposing group. They overthrow them, and then they puppet
them as well. It's a pretty tried and true formula
and they've been doing it for decades and continue to
do it. So this brings us to what's going on currently.
I've got a couple of articles we're going to go through.
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One I'm going to read almost in its entirety because
I think it's fantastic and you should know it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
The other one I will just highlight.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
So the first one, this is from twenty twenty one
from declassified to UK secret CIA funded group linked to
UK ministers. Two current ministers and two recent justice ministers
have been funded by an opaque Transatlantic right wing group
which includes members of the intelligence community. And here's how
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the article goes. The group, known as LES Circle, was
described by former Conservative Minister Alan Clark in his diaries
as a quote right wing think tank funded by the
CIA which turns Cold War concepts around. They go on
to talk about how it started in the fifties.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
We know all of that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Then it goes into some details. Declassified has found that
eight current Conservative parliamentarians are associated with the group. Two
current ministers, Business Secretary Quasi Kwarting and his deputy Minister
Greg Hands, have been funded by LA Circle. Talks about
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how much money they were given. Then it also says
three former justice ministers are associated with the group, and
the names of David Lendington, Justice Secretary from twenty seventeen
to eighteen Crispin Blunt, a Justice Minister from twenty ten
to twenty twelve. They claimed they were previously funded by
Le Circle and attended meetings in Washington, d C. And Madrid.
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Rory Stewart, who served as Justice Minister under Teresa May,
was previously chair of LI Circle. Several high profile US
figures are also linked to the group. US Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia, who sat on America's most powerful court
from eighty six until twenty sixteen, attended at least one
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Circle meeting while sitting on the court. Other ministers known
to have been funded by the group include the former
Foreign secretaries William Hague and Margaret Beckett, current Education Secretary
Nadim Zuwai, a former business minister, is another previous chair
of the Circle. Then it goes on to talk about
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some of these people. They say in the article this
the only information about the group who have recently appeared
in public comes from a twenty twelve letter written by
its then chair, Lord Lothian, who is actually Michael and Kram,
former chair of the Conservative Party. The letter was written
to the Saudi Deputy Foreign Minister and it was published
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by Wiki Leaks in twenty fifteen. It states that the
group is largely European and American and its members include
members of parliaments, diplomats, members of the intelligence community, commentators
and businessmen from over twenty five countries. The Circles meetings
were said to cover mostly foreign policy, but also some
domestic issues, and are held under strict Tatham House rules,
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where everything said is off the record. Attendance ranges from
eighty to one hundred people. Other chairs of the group
have included Conservative life peer Lord Lamont, a former chancellor,
says Lamont was funded to attend the same Circle meetings
of Bahrain in twenty nineteen. Former Minister Alan Duncan writes
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in his diaries he attended a Circle meeting at Saint
James Court Hotel in Westminster in June twenty sixteen. He
described it as a quote longstanding, slightly crazy security conference
which I've been going to for years according to this article.
The only significant article on the Circle published in the
British press appeared in The Independent in nineteen ninety seven.
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It named Duncan, then a Conservative MP, as one of
the group's leading political lights. Margaret Thatcher is also listed
as a one time attendee. It's not known if any
of these political figures attended. While in post talks about
Henry Kissinger, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld says quote American regulars
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were said to include two directors of the CIA, William Colby,
who headed the agency from seventy three to seventy six,
and William Casey, who was director from eighty one to
eighty seven. The circle's current political activities are unclear. South
African researcher Henney van Veeren found declassified documents in Pretoria
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which showed the Circle quote had support for apartheid South
Africa at the top of their agenda, says. In November
two thousand and nine, LA Circle paid one twenty pounds
for David Liddington, then a shadow Foreign Minister, to fly
to Washington to quote speak to a meeting of the
Circle about Middle East policy. The trip also included meetings
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with US Administration officials about various foreign policy matters, talked
about how they paid for William Haig to go to Morocco.
These are all things that they uncovered. In twenty nineteen,
Rory Stewart confirmed to Politics Home that he was chair
of LE Circle from twenty thirteen to fourteen. Sir Alistair Graham,
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the former chair of the Commission for Standards in Public Life,
called the omissions disturbing and Le' Circle a shadowy body
because Rory Stewart never talked about this when he was in.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
His official position.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
According to this article, it also says only some information
from insiders has appeared public about LE Circle. In nineteen
ninety three, HarperCollins, one of the quote Big five publishing houses,
published Free Agent, a memoir by Brian Crozier, who was
a member of the Circle from seventy one.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
To eighty five.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
MI I five and m I six tried unsuccessfully to
ban the book, but it is now out of print.
And then we have this article from August seventeenth, twenty
twenty four, and this is from the Mirror UK Secretive
Society of political elites paid for Nigel Faraja's number two
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to fly to meeting. Reformed Deputy leader Richard Tice, who
has frequently railed against globalists and elites, accepted a long
weekend in Germany paid for by Le Circle, an allegedly
CIA funded secret society which supported apartheid in South Africa
in the eighties. About how this group sucisted since the fifties,
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we know all of that. The Register of Members Interests
also revealed that XPM Rishi Sunak accepted more than forty
seven thousand pounds worth of helicopter travel and that Robert
Jenrik accepted two donations worth fifty thousand pounds from the
same group. The register also revealed Reform leader Nigel Faraj
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pocketed one point two million pounds in payments from GP
News last year, as well as tens of thousands of
payments from social media firms. Mister Tyss returned from Germany
on May twelfth, a week before Rishi Sunac called the
general elections. The Invitation Only Group was founded to aid
reconciliation between France and Germany after World War Two, but
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its focus shifted to opposing communism in the sixties and
supporting apartheid in South Africa in the seventies and eighties.
And it goes on to talk about basically how.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Six may be.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Involved in my five, that this guy who's part of
this Reform party, Nigel Frog's number two, was given a
ton of money to fly to one of their meetings.
So they are currently very much active both sides of
the party Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
That's the whole point. This is not a left wing
right wing thing.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
And a lot of.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
People like to say, oh, well, you're just pointing them
out because if it's an agenda or whatever, No, they
don't care. They the only agenda they have is theirs
and they will pay off whoever, whenever, wherever to accomplish
whatever the goal is, and we all know the goal.
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The goal is for them to run the world, run industry,
run food, run banking, run your life, run everything in
the way that they feel is the best for the planet.
And that's a fact. There is no denying that. Whether
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it's Le Circle, Builderberg, any of these groups, they have
an agenda. They don't care who they use to get it.
It is a fact. So this is another group that
you can put into your little weapon case when one
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of your friends is you're crazy. There is no such thing.
This doesn't happen. It's all made up. There's no proof
about it. Well here they are let Circle and in
the news as recently as August seventeenth, twenty twenty four,
still funding politicians to come to their meetings where.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
We don't know what they talk about.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
We don't know what they're concocting, but we do know
they give them directives and they bought them. They're paying
for these politicians to go back and do their bidding.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
If you would like any of this information, I would
be glad to send it to you. I think you
should do an even deeper dive into the Circle. I
know I'm going to Like I said, there's not a
lot out there. It's like a lot of digging to
get just to what I have, and I'm hoping I
can unearth some more, maybe do a follow up episode.
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But this is a group I'd never heard of. It's
a group I didn't even know existed. Yet there they are,
and it's the same playbook. Down the rh ProtonMail dot com.
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proof on that, because I can show you they are
there and it's extremely factual. So Brand and I will
be back on Sunday with a brand new episode. I
hope everybody has a great week. Appreciate all of y'all
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Welcome everybody, NWCZ radio dot com Channel ones down the
rabbit hole. I'm Big d. It's the midweek edition. Thanks
for jumping in with me here. I have a group
today that we're going to discuss that is brand new
to even me, and it's because they are very secretive.
We're going to talk about a super secret group that
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is controlling or has been accused of controlling many many
things around the world. You know, we think Builderberg Group,
we talk about the Illuminati Council on Foreign Relations, and
all of these are fairly well known. They weren't always.
There was a time when they were very secretive, especially
the Builderberg Group. I was reading a fiction book. It
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was a political thriller, and in this book they made
a reference to this shadowy group called Lis Circle cer
cl E and there was an asterisk next to the name. Now, again,
this is a fiction book, so I just assume this
is something they made up.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
There was an asterisk.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I followed the asterisk to the footnotes, and it
gave a very basic statement about this Les Circle group
being an actual group that is actually a very secretive
political group. So that piqued my interests. I went down
the rabbit hole, and that is what we're going to
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talk about today. But before we get into all of
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bunch of other great shows Fringe Radio Network. Let's get
into this les circle. And I'm not kidding. I have
read multiple books, probably close to one hundred books on
secret societies, Illuminati, Builderberg, Tavistock, I mean, the list goes
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on and on of these shadowy think tanks, secret groups,
groups that are run by heads of state and important
people all around the world, and we've discussed most of them.
I had never ever run across this group in any
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of them. The text Mars book Creature from Jaco Island
by G. Edward Griffith, none of them have covered this group,
which surprises me. To my knowledge. I don't think they're
part of this group because it doesn't seem to me
it would fit their style. I just think this is
a super secret group and maybe they don't have as
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much sway as is being leveled against them. But as
we go through this, you're gonna see there's some very
powerful people in this group who want things done on
a global scale, and they seem to be very high up,
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and they work hand in hand, a lot of crossovers
with the Builderbergs, with the Masons, with Tavistock and all
these groups, Bohemian Grove, you name it, so let's dive
into it. This list circle used to be known as
the Pinnae Circle or Circle Pinnae by its original French founders,
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and this group was named after a French statement who
was Prime Minister from March to December of nineteen fifty two.
He was the primary organizer of this group and his
name was Jean Vila or Violet. So who is this
Jean Violets? And I know I'm probably saying that wrong.
It's it looks like Violet v I L E. T.
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I don't speak French, but I know sometimes you just
dropped that last letter.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So it could be Volet.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know, but this guy has a very shady pass,
to say the least.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
His name is.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Part of this pre World War II secret committee called
the CSAAR.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It was a secret.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Fascist group, kind of like the Freemasons in the sense
that it had its own initiation rights, they had secret handshakes,
they met in secrecy.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You weren't allowed to know who they were.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
In fact, some authors have suggested that CSAAR, popularly known
at the time as the Hooded Ones, was one of
the most important branches of the legendary synarchist movement of Empire,
and was there working to undermine the French Republic in
preparation for the coming Nazi invasion. So we don't really
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know exactly how involved this guy was in this, but
he was arrested after the war for having collaborated with
the Nazis. Then he was released on quote orders from above.
And went to work as a lawyer in Paris and
decided to become part of Opus Day. And we have
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not done a show on Opus Day that is on
our list, but Opus Day is secretive and dangerous in
their own right. In nineteen fifty one, Vallet came into
contact with Antoine Pennay, who was a Catholic and also
along to Opus Stay, who asked him to solve a
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problem with the Geneva based firm that had been seized
by the Nazis during.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
World War Two.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And as the story goes, Penay was so impressed with
the way Voileet handled his assignment that he recommended him
to French intelligence. Through this he got hooked up with
a bunch of luminaries and dignitaries and they founded this
influential think tank called the European Center of Documentation and Information.
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And then it goes through a lot of these groups
that they were a part of, kind of in and
out of, and he hooked up with a guy named
Conrad and an hour, a guy named Franz Joseph Bach
and friends Joseph Strauss. These were all controversial figures from
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Bavaria and from Germany and basically from over there in
Europe and they all founded Les Circle. And according to
a nineteen ninety five document unearthed by Swiss researcher Adrian Hanny,
it revealed that Le Circle was founded in nineteen fifty
two to nineteen fifty three by all these characters. So
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that's the official timeline. Because a lot of things you'll
look at and there's not a lot out there about
this group. It took me quite a bit to find
some substantial information. Most things will say it started somewhere
quote in the fifties, but there's been some documents that
have been unearthed by some of the members. One guy
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left his briefcase somewhere with some orders, and we'll get
to all of that, but that's pretty much when it started,
nineteen fifty two to nineteen fifty three. According to this
article says there were more important individuals involved in the
early days of Le Circle. There was Robert Schumann, Jean Monnette,
in addition to Antoine Piney himself. They were all basically
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meeting up in France. Schulman was the French Prime Minister
from forty seven to forty eight and French Foreign Minister
from forty eight.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
To fifty three.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Jean Monnette was Planning Commissioner of the National Economic Council
from forty five to fifty two and appointed by de Gaul.
He carried out essential work for the reconstruction of the
French economy. He was connected to the highest financial and
political circles in North America, Great Britain, Mainland, Western Europe
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and was one of the major players in the push
for an integrated Europe in the aftermath of World War II.
And what they really were pushing for was what we
have now is the EU, this massive control one Europe.
They're the ones who were behind all of this. Also,
according to another article, they say while much of the
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groundwork for the European Union was laid by this group
and their liberal estabf bish Flint and their liberal establishment backers,
Circle founder Jean Boulet himself also played an important behind
the scenes role. Several years after the European Economic Community
the EEC was founded, and at one point they say,
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a very interesting aspect of a circle is that it
used to be a strictly Catholic group from Maineland Europe,
involving Vatican representatives, Italians, French and Germans. However, much more
recent reports revealed that the leadership of LES Circle has
been in the hands of the British for many decades.
This change was set in nineteen seventy one when British
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intelligence asset Brian Crozer was brought into LA Circle and
soon started cherry meetings.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So how did this all work?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Because eventually they roped in the United States, and they've
roped in Canada, and they've roped in basically all of
the West is part of this let Circle. It still
is in operation today and I'll get to the current
news about it at some point here in this program.
But essentially LES Circle operated about twice a year where
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a small group of international representatives from intelligence services and
academics would come together and mainly discuss Franco German reproachment.
So they would discuss the business of Europe, Germany, France,
the EU essentially, and they would pick leaders. They would
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use the rules of you're not here to represent anybody.
Nothing leaves this room. We don't talk about what happens here.
There's no reporters. However, we come up with ideas, we
share ideas, and we take them back, much like the
Builderberg Group. The United States joined in in the sixties,
according to a document the CIA's Congress of Cultural Freedom
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and the IrDA, British and Intelligence and other intelligence linked groups.
This is when they got involved. According to an article
in the US News and World Report says the theme
was terrorist and communist intentions. On reading this interview, a
Frenchman named Jean Volet came to see me in my
Piccadilly office with an introduction from Francois Duchnet, my former
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economist colleague and director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Boilet impressed me with the clarity and precision of his
arguments and with the breath of his intellectual grasp of
world problems. And then what they did is they would
write articles, they would seek to influence politicians, and they
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would seek to put key people in key positions so
that they could get their agenda done. And they're still
doing that to this day. It's a lot of names
that you've probably not heard of unless you're very well
versed in European politics. And I'll get into some of
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the names you will recognize that are from the United
States and some key figures around the world. But early
on it was primarily people from Germany, from France, Italy,
from England. I find this interesting because occasionally they would
find themselves in the media. However, according to this article,
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Le Circle has gone by a number of names in
the media. Some of these names appear to refer to
the more exclusive coordinating group or executive committee discussed in
these early chapters. The source of a Circle League who
will be discussed later acknowledged the existence of such an
inner group. David Rockefeller's reference to Pezentti group might have
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also been a reference to this inner circle. Yeah, and
David Rockefeller is definitely involved in this. The same goes
for the Penay Committee that appeared in documents of Brian
Krozer's Institute for the Study of Conflicts. It was leaked
in nineteen seventy five to Time Out magazine, the first
known public reference to Les Circle. However, in the magazine
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it was referred to as Committee penn A. There was
also a document in the nineteen eighty six Belgian police
report on Opus Day where they referenced this group. So
they have been very very good at being secretive, and
even if things leak out, things get out, it has
always come out under a different name. Several different names
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in fact, so that they can't be penned down. Another
thing that I found interesting is there's a lot of
reference to six and CIA being involved in this, officers
higher ups who their names have appeared on different documents
that were found, especially in the eighties and the nineties.
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With that that being said, the United States primarily got
involved in the late sixties. Big surprise, right According to this.
In October nineteen sixty seven, Keys Circle member and finance
here Carlo Pacente the second took David Rockefeller aside at
a Chase investment forum in Italy and revealed to him
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the existence of Le Circle. Now again, remind you David
Rockefeller at that time was one hundred percent involved in
the Builderbergs. From that meeting, seven months later, in May
nineteen sixty eight, Rockefeller attended a First Circle meeting in Rome.
At the time, David's brother, Nelson, Richard Nixon, and Ronald
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Reagan were all competing for the Republican nomination. Says based
on this ever present Rockefeller influence, it is no surprise
that Le Circle started making overtures to Rockefeller in nineteen
sixty seven. In fact, on December sixth, nineteen sixty eight,
immediately after the Nixon election, the very first Circle meeting
was organized in the United States at Rockefeller Center, and
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there's a photo of it, and of course it has
David Rockefeller, one of the leaders from Belgium, and a
few other people at this gathering. So with Rockefeller being involved,
who's next up, who's the next big name from the
United States, Well, that would be Henry Kissinger according to this.
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In early nineteen sixty nine, David Rockefeller again appeared at
a Circle meeting, this time in Bavaria, in advance of
Nixon and Kissinger's efforts to strengthen the ties between the
United States and the European NATO countries. Kissinger accompanied Rockefeller
to Circle meetings on at least two occasions, July second,
nineteen sixty nine, and another on December second, nineteen seventy.
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Rockefeller and Kissinger served as a condom of information from
Les Circle to the Nixon administration and undoubtedly to many
of their establishment friends. One great example is David Rockefeller
handling Kissinger a document of a group calling itself sent
Unim that warns of clandestine quote communist infiltration into the
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Church network, including Latin America through progressivism modernism and liberalism.
The report asked the US government to finance traditionalist media
outlets within the Vatican network. Kissinger costumed Nixon against direct
financial contributions to right wing elements in the Church, but
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at the same wrote that quote much of what the
report said is probably true. Now, who was this sent Unim?
It was actually Le Circle, and how did they find
out these two groups were the same. So it says
identifying sent Unim as Les Circle isn't particularly hard and
Kissinger's National security memorandum scent Unem is described by one
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of its founders as a quote clandestine Catholic international organization
whose aims are to oppose communism and to further the
principles of Christianity. Regular meetings take place around the world,
from Paris to Rio de Janeiro. Key founders include French
Prime Minister Robert Schulmann, the German Chancellor Conrad Adenauer, Jean Violets,
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and is described as quote organizers and executive officers. So
it's the same people. That's how they figured it out,
Rockefeller explained in his memoirs. Eventually he withdrew from the
Circle over concerns that he might be quote concerting with reactionaries. However,
apart from a much more steady stream of US Christian conservatives,
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it appears that Rockefeller Kissinger network always kept some kind
of representation within the circle. If Rockefeller or Kissinger was
isn't there, you often had one or two persons with
a more liberal Eastern establishment background attending Circle conferences on
their behalf. So you had Paul Volker, Robert Knight, Sir
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Ronald Grierson, Adolf Mellon, a lot of people who were
in and around Kissinger and Rockefeller. Brazinski was there as well,
according to another article. As discussed extensively in the Pilgrim
Society article, David Rockefeller and friends all moonlighted for the
CIA and even formed a quote above CIA network due
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to close personal relationships to successive presidents and CIA directors.
By holding the position of National Security Advisor and other
top government positions and being at the nexus of basically
all key non government operations, David Rockefeller actually was briefed
by a variety of division chiefs on every thing that
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was going on. So his role in Builderberg, the Trilateral Commission,
the cfr Endless Circle can all be seen as one
large private intelligence operation and that is what was going on.
They were trying to and I believe they still are,
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to bring all these groups together, or there's a group
above them, which is what we would call the illuminati
or the powers that be, the global shadow leaders. And
these are the smaller groups, the groups that are just
below them, who all share members, but they all have
different tasks in order to reach the goals that they
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set or that are handed down to them. However you
want to see that, it could go many different ways.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
We don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And I find it interesting because there's a lot of
let'll say conservative commentator and even other commentators that I
listen to, who I think are quite bright, are very smart,
who will completely dismiss any idea of a world order
or any kind of a group that is seeking to
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run the world. And they will always try it out
where there is no proof. You have to show me proof,
you have to show me tangible evidence. And anytime something
like this comes up where they it all points to
the same thing, they will stop short and dismiss it
and say, that's just a think tank. They're not really
doing anything. Even if you get into their writings, and
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in their writings they explicitly say yeah, this is what
we're trying to do. Like the Council on Foreign Relations
who always talk about diminishing the population. You know, the
Builderbergs who want to run all of manufacturing industry. You
have the World Economic Forum who wants to change every
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thing and reset everything. They're all aiming in the same direction,
taking directives from some body, and they all come from
different countries. We saw that during COVID when every world
leader came out and said it's time to build back better,
it's time for a reset. Well, they don't all just
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come up with that on their own. Email went out,
there was a meeting that was had. It's been hatched
for years. And this is another one of those groups.
Le's Circle, according to Chris Blackhurst, and this was written
June twenty eighth, nineteen ninety seven. That's what he says
about le Circle. Formed in the fifties, Circle was intended
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to cebmit Franco German relations as a buffer to Soviet
aggression during the Cold War. Down the years, however, it
has become much more advocating right wing causes around the
world and growing into a confidential talking shop. For about
seventy politicians, businessmen, and personnel from the diplomatic and security services.
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Members are invited to attend its meetings. They cannot ask
to be admitted, and as a condition of attending, they
agreed to keep all sessions secret. It meets twice a year,
once in Washington, d C. In the autumn, and once
in the early part of the year in end quote
overseas venue. In the year two thousand, there was a
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single web page called www dot Atlantic Circle dot com
and it described the Circle as quote an informal group
of European and American professionals, politicians, retired ambassadors, former generals, lawyers,
bankers and active participants in banking, oil shipping, publishing and
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trading companies who are interested in preserving a positive Atlantic dialogue.
And to the UK House of Lords, where they were
inquiring about all of this, it was told to them
that this is a quote informal group meeting to discuss
world affairs. In two thousand and seven, the Washington Post
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termed it as quote foreign policy think tank established during
the Cold War that reportedly included senior politicians, diplomats, and
intelligence agents worldwide. And in nineteen eighty three there was
an article and it described in quote, the leaders of
the free world can now examine the very grave problem
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which we face in order to determine, to gather possible solutions,
and then try to implement them each in their respective sphere.
I've seen it referred to as a right wing think
tank or a think tank that's now funded by the CIA,
which churns out cold war concepts around the world. And
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for a while, and I'm not sure if this is
still the case, but i did read some mention that
for a time they had separate US and European chairs
for the two different meetings. So you had the spring
summer meetings, one in the US, one somewhere else, and
they had different chairs, different leaders for both of those groups.
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According to this, the US chairman is less publicized and
currently unknown, so the mention of quote the chairman will
probably be reference to the European chairman. European chairs include
Brian Crozier, Julian Amory, Christian Shilling, Jonathan Atkin, Norman Lamont,
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and it goes on. And these are all high up politicians.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Over in Europe.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The only US chairman identified was Ted Shackley and his
successor Richard McCormick. Those are the only ones that we
know of. Meetings last three to four days, and nowadays
there's about seventy guests that arrive, although the meetings used
to be smaller, perhaps just thirty five. Guests are almost
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always male, sometimes bring their wives, though it is unknown
to what extent, if any, that the wives are involved
in the meeting, and again this as compared to a
miliuse such as the Builderberg, membership of the Circle is
much less fluid. According to another article, the identity of
attendees to these meetings was largely a matter of conjecture
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until twenty eleven when a researcher published five guest lists
for La Circle meetings from the papers of French Circle visitors,
and this was in some French paper. The list included politicians, bankers, diplomats,
deep political actors, military officers, editors and publishers, some who
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have and others who had not retired. The participants, which
include some deep politicians, come almost exclusively from Western or
Western oriented countries. Many important members tend to be affiliated
with the aristocratic circles in London or obscure elements within
the Vatican, and accusations of links to fascism and synarchism
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are anything but uncommon in this milieu. So how do
these guys fund what they're doing. Obviously they're super duper rich.
These are all heads of massive companies, but not all
of them. A lot of them just have political power.
So some digging has been done and I can't verify this,
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but an article that I found said that the group
states that it is quote privately funded. Funding for the
group has changed over the years. Multinational companies, including Phillips
and Standard Electric, a subsidiary of American Itt Corporation, have
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given the group money. In nineteen seventy one, Shell contributed
a lump sum of thirty thousand pounds. The Ford Foundation
also donated twenty thousand pounds In the nineteen eighties. The
South African government was a major source of funds. In
nineteen ninety seven, The Independent suggested that the group is
CIA funded.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There are some traces of major major corporations, possibly the CIA,
big governmental oil companies, all the usual suspects are pouring
money into this group. Why would they do that just
because they like to sit around and think about things,
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talk about things, shake hands, have a nice little vacation.
According to another article I was reading, the nineteen eighty
two Langman papers were the first significant exposure of the
Circle's activities, confirming that the group was actively involved in
influencing Western European elections. Evidence of their involvement in other matters,
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such as weapons dealing and covert military actions remain circumstantial,
although since then there have come out some papers and
some notes from meetings where they do talk about starting wars.
What are they going to do about this group over here?
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Do they use sanctions? Do they go in and create
a psyop to where they create problems and pit two
groups against one another, and then they will back one
of the groups to assure that they win. It's very common.
They're very, very active for whatever reason. Down in South Africa.
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They launder money through there. They have a lot of
meetings down there. They prop governments up down there. There's
a lot of shady business that goes on down in
South Africa, in the Circle.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Is part of most of it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
According to this article, the Circle has also been accused
of actively destabilizing governments which opposes a conservative economic agenda.
One such example was go Whitland's Australian government. One of
the Circle members chaired the Conservative Monday Club to oppose
the decolonization policies of Harold Wilson. It prepared a coup
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against his Labor government. Two Circle members, Edward Lay and
Julian Lewis, started the Coalition for Peace through Security to
try to reverse the rise in popularity of CND. In
the US, the American Security Council started the Coalition for
Peace through Strength, which had comparable aims, and this was
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the opposition to nuclear disarmament. They didn't want any of
the European countries obviously to disarm their nuclear programs, while
at the same time they're pushing for it everywhere else. Also,
according to this article, the Circle, like the Builderberg Group,
is strongly focused on European integration, going back to the
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efforts of its early members to bring about a Franco
German reproachment. The significant presence of Opus Day members and
Knights of Malta, together with statements of the Vatican and
Otto von Hasburg, suggests an agenda of creating a new
quote Holy Roman Empire with borders from the Atlantic to
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the Black Sea and from the Baltic Sea to North Africa.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It goes on.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Interestingly, the latest generation of British Circle members, whose predecessors
were keen on joining the European Union, now seem to
want to keep Britain out of the emerging European superstate.
This is brexit, perhaps having lost faith that they can
become a significant force within Europe. Their American associates, however,
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would like for them to continue the effort of breaking
into the Franco German Alliance and possibly to establish a
new Anglo German Alliance. So it's a lot of back
and forth here. It's a lot of things to take in.
Bottom line is these individuals who belonged to the Circle
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have been meddling with the EU, NATO, nations, all of
Africa and around the globe since the fifties. Since post
World War Two, it has been their goal to reestablish
using Opus Day and the Vatican and any means necessary
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to re establish some sort of world order in their liking.
And this is why I believe they keep geting link
to the Builderberg group, and I think they are part
of the Builderberg group at large. If David Rockefeller's involved,
and I know it says, oh he backed out at
some point. The real reason David Rockefeller backed out is
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because of his investors in Chase. There's a long article
and he actually mentioned in his book that after he
went to these the Circle groups, some members of his
board of directives at Chase found out about it, told
him they didn't think it was a good idea, it
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was bad for business, and he was going to get outed,
and so he then quote quit, but he would send proxies,
he would send people on his behalf. So David Rockefeller
never actually bowed out of and neither did Henry Kissinger.
They were all working together with the different groups to
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form the one World government. And who are they taking
their directives from? That is the larger question. That's why
when you bring up the Illuminati or the powers that
be or the Shadow Hand or however you want to
reference it, and people roll their eyes and they're like,
that's never been proven.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You can't prove it on one level that is a fact.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Can I point to a person and say that individual
is definitely part of the Illuminati. I cannot do that.
But you have all these subgroups who have the same aim,
the same members started around the same time frame, some
a little earlier, some a little later, but their goals
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are pretty much all the same. There's some minutia different points,
such as this one is primarily you have OPU Stayah.
The Vatican, well, I don't know if that they're involved
with the Builderbergs. I do know they send reps to
the world I kind the Catholic Church certainly has sent
representatives and given their blessings at the openings of some
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of the World Economic Forum events, so that's happening. They're
also involved in a lot of covert military intervention. I
think we talked about that they're big on weapons dealing.
According to this article, I found this interesting. Ted Shackley
was involved in oil deals after he left the CIA
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in nineteen seventy nine, facilitated by his close friend and
fellow Circle member Conrad Gerber and oil smuggler John Deuce.
Joel Vander Region has suggested that Lecerque was important in
the organization of the nine to eleven attacks. And some
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people say, well, this is another one of those where
they're just going to throw everything together and because of
this is a shadowy group and we don't know what
they're involved in, we're just going to put everything on
their plate. But there's actually in one of these days
when we do the nine to eleven episodes, we go
really deep down that rabbit hole. There's some pretty legitimate
claims that they could have been involved in that, the
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Le Circle group. Now that I know who they are,
because at the time you were hearing, well, it's just
this shadowy group nobody really knows. I'm not sure. Well,
I think they have been outed, and I'm not above
believing that it could be this group. One of the
big breaks as far as exposing this group came in
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twenty seventeen. These were fresh documents that were all related
to Le Circle. And again, up until that point, there
were just drips here and there. People either believed it
or they didn't. Were they a plant? Were they trying
to throw your off track? Was it actually the Builder
Bergs who were kind of created this sort of fake
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other group over here, and they were when you would
chase that rabbit trail down while they actually did their business.
I read a long article about that about how for
a long time people thought Less Circle was a made
up group like Asia put out by the Builder Berks
or one of the other groups. So you would go
chase that knowing it would lead to nothing. However, twenty seventeen,
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Graham van Bergen published what's called Meet Liss Circle, making
builderberg look like amateurs. And he published this in a
magazine called True Publica, and then it was picked up
by a bunch of independent websites and so forth. And
here's just some highlights of what he found in there,
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because one of the things that he located was there
was a briefcase and then there were some notes that
were left behind that he got a hold of that
were all the circle meeting itinerary notes, instructions. Somebody just
left them in a hotel. They don't know who it
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was because there was nobody's name on it. And when
he got them and he dug into them and verified that,
oh yeah, they had been at such and such a
place during such and such a time. There were things
on there that proved that it was absolutely true that
these were not plants. This wasn't some sort of somebody
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put some fake paper somewhere, and there are photographs online
where you can look at them, and so I do
believe that they were real. Everybody believes they're real. According
to one of the things he found, Hans Lingaman says
the circle consists of a loose gathering of various conservatives
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and anti communist politicians, publicists, bankers and VIPs. They meet
twice a year. It's original in from the former French
Prime Minister Pennay. The Circle, which still exists today, also
invites guest speakers. One recent development is the establishment within
the Circle of Command a staff or of an inner Circle,
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which then works out particularly suitable means for action or
current political questions.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Says.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
For instance, in the late nineteen seventies, the Cirque supported
Native's decision to station new medium range nuclear weapons. These
were Crews and Pershing two missiles in Britain, Germany, Belgium
and Holland targeted against the USSR. The Circle helped to
discredit the European peace protest movement, which emerged against the
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backdrop of nuclearization of Europe, through aggressive counter intelligence provocations
and disinformation. Participants at the Circle meetings report that a
major issue has been about how to bring the demise
of Western German Chancellor's helmet Schmidt's government. The issue dominated
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the last biennial meeting of the Circle that was hosted
by the Hans Seidel Foundation, the official think tank of
the opposition leader Franz Joseph Strauss Christian Social Union in Munich.
The Circles participants have been able to carry out an
inside job to destroy the Schmidt coalition government since then,
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and apparently they do this all over the world. That's
one of the things they do is they recruit people
who are on the inside, who are part of deep
state or non elected, who are in positions of power,
and they recruit them in, They tell them what their
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goal is, they get them on board, and they send
them back and they provide them with whatever they need
to accomplish this to create or to bring up opposition
psyops lies however you want to do it again, All
parties do it. They've done it both with i'll say
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conservative parties in power and democratic or liberal parties in
power because they don't care what party is in the
White House or Head of England or wherever they want
their agenda taken care of. They want it to be
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moved forward. They don't care who does it. Here are
some of the names of the known members, and there's
a ton there's a lot of I think about three
hundred or so have been outed, but I'm just going
to give you some names that you would know. Margaret
Thatcher would be one. You all know that. Paul Vanderhoven
I think you should know him, Jeffrey Tantum, Franz, Joseph Strauss,
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Tim Spicer, George Soros, Ron Silver, Ted Shackley, Norman Schwartzkoff,
Robert Schuman, William Schneider, Donald Rumsfeld, Nelson and David Rockefeller,
Charles Powell, Richard Nixon, Benjamin Nettan Yahoo, George Montgomery, George Mitchell,
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Herbert Meyer, Henry Kissinger, Alan Greenspan, Alan Clark, William Casey,
and the list goes on. Brazinski's in there, and then
a lot a lot of Oh, John Bolton's another one
that you would know. He's fairly current. Anyway, there are
tons and there's a lot of Europeans in there. I
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could say their names, you probably wouldn't know who they were.
I can send you this list. You can just follow
the links find out who they are. All top statesmen,
all top politicians, all top businessmen who are seeking once
again through this group, Let's circle, a secretive group to control.
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This group primarily is looking to control the entire European
region and for whatever reason, in Africa, So the West
and Africa, United States, Canada, Australia, England, Germany, France. You
just go down the list, the EU plus the West
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and Africa, which is where I believe that they go
down and they do all their shady dealings, and they
stockpile money and weapons, and you know, there's such loose
restrictions down there, they can pretty much do whatever they want.
That's where all the transfers take place. They just pay
off governments, prop up governments, and if they backstab them whatever,
they just give a bunch of money and weapons to
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the opposing group. They overthrow them, and then they puppet
them as well. It's a pretty tried and true formula
and they've been doing it for decades and continue to
do it. So this brings us to what's going on currently.
I've got a couple of articles we're going to go through.
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One I'm going to read almost in its entirety because
I think it's fantastic and you should know it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
The other one I will just highlight.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
So the first one, this is from twenty twenty one
from declassified to UK secret CIA funded group linked to
UK ministers. Two current ministers and two recent justice ministers
have been funded by an opaque Transatlantic right wing group
which includes members of the intelligence community. And here's how
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the article goes. The group, known as LES Circle, was
described by former Conservative Minister Alan Clark in his diaries
as a quote right wing think tank funded by the
CIA which turns Cold War concepts around. They go on
to talk about how it started in the fifties.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
We know all of that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Then it goes into some details. Declassified has found that
eight current Conservative parliamentarians are associated with the group. Two
current ministers, Business Secretary Quasi Kwarting and his deputy Minister
Greg Hands, have been funded by LA Circle. Talks about
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how much money they were given. Then it also says
three former justice ministers are associated with the group, and
the names of David Lendington, Justice Secretary from twenty seventeen
to eighteen Crispin Blunt, a Justice Minister from twenty ten
to twenty twelve. They claimed they were previously funded by
Le Circle and attended meetings in Washington, d C. And Madrid.
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Rory Stewart, who served as Justice Minister under Teresa May,
was previously chair of LI Circle. Several high profile US
figures are also linked to the group. US Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia, who sat on America's most powerful court
from eighty six until twenty sixteen, attended at least one
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Circle meeting while sitting on the court. Other ministers known
to have been funded by the group include the former
Foreign secretaries William Hague and Margaret Beckett, current Education Secretary
Nadim Zuwai, a former business minister, is another previous chair
of the Circle. Then it goes on to talk about
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some of these people. They say in the article this
the only information about the group who have recently appeared
in public comes from a twenty twelve letter written by
its then chair, Lord Lothian, who is actually Michael and Kram,
former chair of the Conservative Party. The letter was written
to the Saudi Deputy Foreign Minister and it was published
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by Wiki Leaks in twenty fifteen. It states that the
group is largely European and American and its members include
members of parliaments, diplomats, members of the intelligence community, commentators
and businessmen from over twenty five countries. The Circles meetings
were said to cover mostly foreign policy, but also some
domestic issues, and are held under strict Tatham House rules,
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where everything said is off the record. Attendance ranges from
eighty to one hundred people. Other chairs of the group
have included Conservative life peer Lord Lamont, a former chancellor,
says Lamont was funded to attend the same Circle meetings
of Bahrain in twenty nineteen. Former Minister Alan Duncan writes
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in his diaries he attended a Circle meeting at Saint
James Court Hotel in Westminster in June twenty sixteen. He
described it as a quote longstanding, slightly crazy security conference
which I've been going to for years according to this article.
The only significant article on the Circle published in the
British press appeared in The Independent in nineteen ninety seven.
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It named Duncan, then a Conservative MP, as one of
the group's leading political lights. Margaret Thatcher is also listed
as a one time attendee. It's not known if any
of these political figures attended. While in post talks about
Henry Kissinger, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld says quote American regulars
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were said to include two directors of the CIA, William Colby,
who headed the agency from seventy three to seventy six,
and William Casey, who was director from eighty one to
eighty seven. The circle's current political activities are unclear. South
African researcher Henney van Veeren found declassified documents in Pretoria
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which showed the Circle quote had support for apartheid South
Africa at the top of their agenda, says. In November
two thousand and nine, LA Circle paid one twenty pounds
for David Liddington, then a shadow Foreign Minister, to fly
to Washington to quote speak to a meeting of the
Circle about Middle East policy. The trip also included meetings
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with US Administration officials about various foreign policy matters, talked
about how they paid for William Haig to go to Morocco.
These are all things that they uncovered. In twenty nineteen,
Rory Stewart confirmed to Politics Home that he was chair
of LE Circle from twenty thirteen to fourteen. Sir Alistair Graham,
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the former chair of the Commission for Standards in Public Life,
called the omissions disturbing and Le' Circle a shadowy body
because Rory Stewart never talked about this when he was in.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
His official position.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
According to this article, it also says only some information
from insiders has appeared public about LE Circle. In nineteen
ninety three, HarperCollins, one of the quote Big five publishing houses,
published Free Agent, a memoir by Brian Crozier, who was
a member of the Circle from seventy one.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
To eighty five.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
MI I five and m I six tried unsuccessfully to
ban the book, but it is now out of print.
And then we have this article from August seventeenth, twenty
twenty four, and this is from the Mirror UK Secretive
Society of political elites paid for Nigel Faraja's number two
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to fly to meeting. Reformed Deputy leader Richard Tice, who
has frequently railed against globalists and elites, accepted a long
weekend in Germany paid for by Le Circle, an allegedly
CIA funded secret society which supported apartheid in South Africa
in the eighties. About how this group sucisted since the fifties,
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we know all of that. The Register of Members Interests
also revealed that XPM Rishi Sunak accepted more than forty
seven thousand pounds worth of helicopter travel and that Robert
Jenrik accepted two donations worth fifty thousand pounds from the
same group. The register also revealed Reform leader Nigel Faraj
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pocketed one point two million pounds in payments from GP
News last year, as well as tens of thousands of
payments from social media firms. Mister Tyss returned from Germany
on May twelfth, a week before Rishi Sunac called the
general elections. The Invitation Only Group was founded to aid
reconciliation between France and Germany after World War Two, but
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its focus shifted to opposing communism in the sixties and
supporting apartheid in South Africa in the seventies and eighties.
And it goes on to talk about basically how.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Six may be.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Involved in my five, that this guy who's part of
this Reform party, Nigel Frog's number two, was given a
ton of money to fly to one of their meetings.
So they are currently very much active both sides of
the party Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
That's the whole point. This is not a left wing
right wing thing.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
And a lot of.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
People like to say, oh, well, you're just pointing them
out because if it's an agenda or whatever, No, they
don't care. They the only agenda they have is theirs
and they will pay off whoever, whenever, wherever to accomplish
whatever the goal is, and we all know the goal.
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The goal is for them to run the world, run industry,
run food, run banking, run your life, run everything in
the way that they feel is the best for the planet.
And that's a fact. There is no denying that. Whether
(53:14):
it's Le Circle, Builderberg, any of these groups, they have
an agenda. They don't care who they use to get it.
It is a fact. So this is another group that
you can put into your little weapon case when one
(53:36):
of your friends is you're crazy. There is no such thing.
This doesn't happen. It's all made up. There's no proof
about it. Well here they are let Circle and in
the news as recently as August seventeenth, twenty twenty four,
still funding politicians to come to their meetings where.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
We don't know what they talk about.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
We don't know what they're concocting, but we do know
they give them directives and they bought them. They're paying
for these politicians to go back and do their bidding.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
If you would like any of this information, I would
be glad to send it to you. I think you
should do an even deeper dive into the Circle. I
know I'm going to Like I said, there's not a
lot out there. It's like a lot of digging to
get just to what I have, and I'm hoping I
can unearth some more, maybe do a follow up episode.
(54:34):
But this is a group I'd never heard of. It's
a group I didn't even know existed. Yet there they are,
and it's the same playbook. Down the rh ProtonMail dot com.
Down therh A ProtonMail dot com. Drop me a line,
I'll send this stuff to you or what are your comments?
Is this all nonsense? I would like to hear your
(54:57):
proof on that, because I can show you they are
there and it's extremely factual. So Brand and I will
be back on Sunday with a brand new episode. I
hope everybody has a great week. Appreciate all of y'all
tuning in. I'm big D and I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
You are listening to the Fringe Radio Network franradionetwork dot com.
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