Live Listener Comms: Cosmology and Spirituality - Snake Brothers - Fringe Radio Network

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Speaker 5 (01:03):
And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, angels
and demons and muscles and serpents. This is Brothers of
the Serpent podcast and we are coming to you live
of science. We are, and that's what. Amongst the dusty
bones of an ancientcy bed high top of the Edwards Plateau,
we have our lovely ladies, the wives in the studio
with us for this Thanksgiving episode. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, ladies, Americans.

(01:25):
We're gonna be eating. We're gonna be celebrating, eating turkey,
cooking all day, talking politics, shouting at each other, right,
something we never do on the show. Well we shout
at each other. Well, we don't ever talk politics on
this show. So yeah, for the for the holidays, we
often get the family in here, and this time we
thought we'd bring our wives. Welcome ladies, thank you, thank

(01:46):
you for being here. Be back. And we've been needing
to do a listener communications for so long there's been
something missing from the show. Yes, hold on, something has
been missing from the show and I've been missing it
really bad. So that's great. You know, you guys know
how the email situation between like Russ reading the emails

(02:10):
on the show, ever since the day one of the
first email, which was probably like year two, he would
read them on the show and it was like this
constant dialogue we had going back and forth. Well sort
of the live shows somewhat replaced that a little bit,
but it's not the same because we had characters developed
in the emails. I mean there was, yeah, the guy

(02:31):
with the fire, I already forgot the characters. Yeah, the
mammal I miss man from Seeing twenty three. Yeah. Yeah.
So so we were like, we need, we need to
bring this back. And my my request was like we
should at least read two emails every show. I agree,
I concur it's hard to do it. And then and

(02:52):
then we were like, well, Russ just uh, just the
other day was like, let's do listener communications. So that's
a good way to sort of catch up. Maybe we'll
rush through some of these. We don't want to rush.
We got to slam through them. We don't want to rush.
We want to give you all the time that everyone needs.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
That.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, well some of them. Some of them are just
like we we want to read it. They're making a comment,
we say hell yeah and we go to the next one.
But other ones asking questions you so all you emailers,
I miss you, yeah, and we got to bring it
to me you. I agree. This was This was a
like a very important part of the show and it's
been missing for a while. So this will be This
is going to be my my Thanksgiving comment. I'm very

(03:31):
thankful for the feedback, for the for the emails, and
the audience that emails, the audience in the discord, the
live audiences, everyone who gives us this like feedback. I'm
very grateful for it because it gives me an idea
of like who you are. It's like a very curated,
carefully curated idea. Yeah, and it's it's it's such a

(03:53):
good feeling, you know, the way the podcast has developed
over time. So I'm very grateful. Thank you. That's my
Thanksgiving note. I agree to well, yeah, that's that's awesome.
I agree that I went through the So every time
we do a listener communications, my job is before we
do the show, I spend a few hours beforehand. I

(04:15):
scroll back to where we had last stopped reading, and
I start reading the next sets of emails, like what
am I going to be reading? Make sure you know
they're action because a lot of times these emails are
coming in all day and I try to stay on
top of it because if I don't, then I lose track. Yeah.
So I mean, I'll be at work and I'll be
you know, going around at work and bling and I check, oh,

(04:37):
it's a Snake Rose email. It's not spam. I'll open
it up and look and be like, I'll read the
first couple of paragraphs, be like, okay, that's good, and
I'll start it and then I'm like, I got to
read this later, and then I don't read it later
until we're about to do the show. Okay, So I
sit down before we do each listener communications, and I
read the actual emails and read them all the way through,
and I'm like, you know, sometimes I get to the

(04:58):
end of one, I'm like, nope, we're not gonna read
that one. Yeah, it starts out great, No, you gotta
be careful about you gotta be careful. But usually when
I go back I read through, I'm like, these are
all awesome and that's you know, that's what happened today.
So we're gonna we'll go through them. But so you're
no longer only dealing with grumpy morning Russ. It could

(05:19):
be work Russ. That's right, Yeah, very he's very short
on time. Yeah, it depends. Yes, when I wake up
in the morning, I check the emails, and then if
they're coming in while I'm at work, I will check
those two if I can. I can't always, you know,
I try to keep on top of it. But yeah,
you wake up, Yeah you're dealing We gotta play. We

(05:43):
gotta play this. You're dealing with grumpy Russ at any
time of the day. He looks at your emails happy about.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I can, yeah, go for it.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
This is Thanksgiving, as we know.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
We had to decided a while back when we were
still doing emails that I would come in on listener communications.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
So I'm thankful for.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Now what do we do?

Speaker 8 (06:23):
I'm not the only one and what happened time?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Hold on a second? He told me just one time.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
No, we're going to keep doing this.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
I think.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Okay, we figured it out. We got that inside baseball
worked out. We're not going to have, you know, a
family discussion on the internet.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Another thing I used to do that I would always
get mailed for.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
It's just a joke. Yeah, yeah, you're always welcome for
the listener communications, of course.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
Yeah, you're required to be here.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Well hold on, okay, okay, right, we figured out. Okay, Uh,
what else was I going to say? Emails? Yes? Oh wait?
So should we do news stories space?

Speaker 9 (07:35):
Space weather news from spacebether dot com, from spacebrother dot com.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
What is up in space? There is a high speed
solar windstream minor G one class geomagnetic storms are possible
today in response to a high speed stream of solar wind.
The gaseous material is blowing around Earth as fast as
seven hundred kilometers per second, which is one point six
million miles per hour. So Arctic skywatchers and international flyers

(08:09):
with window seats should be alert for auroras. Also, there
will be sunspot reports from Mars because right now Mars
is actually on the other side of the Sun from Earth,
almost totally completely on the other side. So Mars is
the NASA's rover there with the still working cameras is
going to be watching the Sun, looking at the sunspots

(08:31):
that we can't see. Oh wow, right, getting some interesting
data there. Yeah, there's a whole story on it here
about it. That's the that's the breakdown. Wow, space weather
goes in every direction. We're only in one direction, that's right. Yeah,
you can't monitor all the spaceweather from one side of
the Sun. You gotta think about that. Yeah. So current
condition solar wind speed, as we said are it's seven
hundred and thirty four point nine kilometers per second. The

(08:52):
density is a very low one point zero three protons
per cubic centimeter, probably because it's moving so fast. Didn't
we kind of notice a trend that when the when
the wind speed is low, When the wind speed is low,
we have higher proton density. Yeah, yeah, and vice versa.
Current sunspot number is ninety nine. The k index is

(09:14):
three point sixty seven, which is quiet, on the upper
end of quiet. But the twenty four hour max was four,
which is on the low end of unsettled. So in
the medium range, let's see spotless days. Current stretch twenty
twenty five total zero days, zero sun spotless days. Yeah,
zero percent. So we when we we started solar cycle

(09:37):
twenty five, what year was it was a couple of
years ago. Yeah, I think because we went through that
we were reporting on it every week twenty twenty three. Yeah,
it's and it was like there was it was, there
was no sun spots y yeah. Yeah, and then slowly
as we entered it cycle twenty five, they started coming
back and yeah, it's pretty cool. See, we haven't on

(10:00):
that in a long time. I forgot.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
I don't even know what the pattern is indexes anymore.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I forget.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
This year.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
This is the this is the it's basically the like
the fluctuation of the magnetic field. Okay, yeah, yeah, so
the magnetic field flipped in twenty three, the solar one
solar magnetic field flipped and then yeah, yeah, okay, all right, space,
but they're done. Yes, you news very much. Yeah, I

(10:28):
got one news story old school podcast folks. Oh oh
look they want a snake wife podcast.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh so we're gonna talk about nails? What kind of
clear part from Macao?

Speaker 10 (10:43):
Nailed it?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
You secure?

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Okay, this is a hit. You guys should definitely do that.
Yeah already I'm watching Let's go We got this? Where's
the bell anyway? Okay, Bruce drinks for the ladies? Yay?
Oh yeah right, thank you Bruce. See yeah, he's a

(11:11):
smart guy. Yeah, smart guy, very smart man. Did you
ladies get any drink? Well you got coffee? What do
you have? Oh no, no? No, all right, well we'll
remedy that. Okay. So this is a story from a
while back. I bookmarked this on x. This is from
Owen Gregorian, but he's just laking pretty much talking about

(11:34):
this story and it's a it's a good write up.
Concrete battery developed at i T now packs ten times
the power, And I was like, did I do this
on the show? I don't think I ever did. We
talked about it though. This is really cool.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
So it says improved carbon cement supercapacitors could turn the
concrete around us into massive energy storage systems. Concrete already
builds our world and now it's one step closer to
powering it too. Made by combining cement water, ultrafining carbon
black with nanoscale particles and electrolytes. Electron conducting carbon concrete

(12:11):
creates a conductive nano neetwork inside concrete that could enable
everyday structures like walls, sidewalks, and bridges to store and
release electrical energy. In other words, the concrete around us
could one day double as giant batteries. As MIT, I
do remember this now, Yeah, we talked about it a lot,
like I talk to you. I think I talked to

(12:32):
you and Ben about it. Yeah, I don't think you
did it on the show, but it's still it's worth
doing it again. That's really cool. So okay. So, as
MIT researchers report in a new PNAS paper Optimize electrolytes
and manufacturing processes have increased the energy storage capacity of
the latest they're called EC three supercapacitors by an order

(12:53):
of magnitude. So they've been doing this for a while,
but they just increased it but ten times its power
storage capacity. So in twenty twenty three, storing enough energy
to meet the daily needs of the average home would
have required about forty five cubic meters of this concrete,
roughly the amount of concrete used in a typical basement.
Now with the improved electrolyte, that same task can be

(13:15):
achieved with about five cubic meters the volume of a
typical basement wall. Yeah, so a quote. A key to
the sustainability of concrete is the development of multifunctional concrete,
which integrates functionalities like this, energy storage, self healing, and
carbon sequestration. Well, we don't really need that, but anyways,
concrete is already the world's most used constructed and material,

(13:38):
so why not take the advantage of that scale to
create other benefits. Yes, of course, let's talk more about
the battery. The improved energy density was made possible by
a deeper understanding of how the nanocarbon black network inside
the concrete functions and interacts with electrolytes. So using focused
ion beams for the sequential removal of thin layers of

(13:59):
the EC three material, followed by high resolution imaging of
each slice with a scanning electron microscope, the team across
the EC three hub at an mi T Concrete Sustainability
Hub was able to reconstruct the conductive nano neetwork at
the highest resolution yet. This approach has allowed the team
to discover that the network is essentially a fractal like

(14:20):
web that surrounds EC three pores, which is what allows
the electrolyte to infiltrate and for the current to flow
through the system. So it's pretty cool. I don't want
to go into all the technical details, but let's say
this down here. A cubic meter of this version of
EC three, about the size of a refrigerator, can store
over two kilowat hours of energy. That's about enough power

(14:42):
to power an actual refrigerator for a day. Oh wow,
so let's see. Blah blah blah, let's see. Let's go
what are we Let's talk about the future. I haven't
read this story in a long time. What it cites
us most? Hold on? Did they say that this is
gonna like help carbon emission? Do they know how much carbon?

(15:06):
They were talking about? Sequestration of carbon? I don't know
why they brought that up. Doesn't isn't just the making
of concrete like a massive emitter of carbon? I don't know.
Probably the huge a lot of energy. Anyway, it doesn't matter,
it's just funny. Let's see let me talk about the future. Okay,

(15:28):
so here we go. Look at this. I got a comment,
I got a comment on this on this thread, and
I'm saying this is good. Did I did? I commented?
I actually comment. I commented on this, which I rarely
ever say anything on X But look, thinking about this
in reference to many of the theories about the Pyramids
of Egypt, core blocks submerged in electrolyte water electrolytic water

(15:52):
saturated with Natron salt, and canals around the base of
the pyramid before being installed pyramid batteries, like they they
soak these limestone blocks in electrolyte. Hmm, right, there's this
whole theory, remember the theory about the water, Like they're like, oh, yeah,
there was like a canal around these pyramids, and they're
moving the blocks in the canal like if they were
soaking them and they were using Natron salt. There's the

(16:15):
whole thing with the Natron salt or whatever. I don't
want to go into it, but that was the story. Yeah,
the Natron salt. And then the fact that all the
the mortuary temples for all the pyramids that were on
that old branch of the river. Yeah, that was like
a mile wide in some places. So if it was
built at that time, I wonder if you could do
this with you would just you could just soak the

(16:37):
limestone in an electrolyte and it would become a battery.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And it smells so bad in the lower chambers.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, it smells the ammonia. Yeah, yes, it does smell
like chemicals and just like the nuts, right, that's the
positive and negative terminals on the side. That that's what
they were, these walls and everything. They were batteries. Agree,
I totally agree. We had a guy on one of

(17:05):
the tours with us that was saying that the uh
that he wanted to do some kind of analysis on
the shapes of the blocks in the walls. We were
looking at the Valley Temple at the time. We were
inside the Valley Temple and he's looking up there and
he's like, this could control flows of electrons. It would
you could change the way electrons move around in the

(17:25):
material by the way you choose to shape the blocks
where the joints are. That's cool, you know. I don't
know if he was suggesting him was doing sounds like
something Phil would say. It was our friend who has
friends with satellites. Ah, yes, sounds like something, he would say.
It definitely sounds like something, he would say. All right, okay, emails. Yeah,

(17:52):
the chat was asking the ladies to do the salts.
You could just do the lid of the salts.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean I can smell it when you guys, well,
I cannot smell anything because my nose is all this stuffed.
I got bleach again before we started. Bleach.

Speaker 11 (18:12):
It's bleach.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I'm scared of it before you.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Guys started, and I don't want another one.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, whoa terry tell me ever since?

Speaker 5 (18:25):
All right, let's take on the emails here. This one
is from Luke and it is called ideas on Cloaking
and force Fields. Okay, hey, Kyle A. Russ, I hope
you guys are ready for some rainer. Remember that these
are being written in like June of twenty twenty four.

(18:48):
I'm in South Houston. I work in Galveston and it's
a slow circular storm building moving six anyway. Okay, so
he says, I'm on episode forty, working my way to
the present. I found you on cosmography. I really enjoy
your brotherly banter. I'm the youngest of six with four
brothers and the scars to prove it on resonance. Isn't
cloaking a craft, just changing the color frequency of the skin.

(19:11):
I'm sure DARPA already did all of this, but I
come from a long line of mechanics, and I have
delusions that I might be able to figure this out.
My dad's dad worked on tractors, my dad worked boilers,
and I'm a story mechanic. I take pictures and I write.
I like to think about tinkering with things. I have
just enough book knowledge to be dangerous under a hood
or with a power tool. You all have replied back

(19:31):
to one of my YouTube comments wondering if lasers leveled
the granite of the Menkara pyramid. This is so much fun.
But on force fields? Could you project static to a
short distance away? A static field would be invisible, but
once you hit it and ground or complete the circuit,
you're in for a jolt. Thanks for the show. I
really enjoy your content. Hopefully we'll make it to the
vineyard this summer. That didn't happen. Hope this email makes sense.

(19:53):
I'm a little relaxed at the moment. He's a little
bit relaxed Steve, I agree with this idea that looking
at craft, you can say this like cloaking a craft
is just changing the color of the skin. But that's
so in the early days we did I did the
little uh musical or sort of sound demonstration on like color. Yeah,

(20:15):
so yeah, I think he's right, like you, the color
that we see is the is the frequency of light
that doesn't resonate the material, right, The color that we
see is the frequency of light that reflects off that
material like a mirror. All the other frequencies of light
are absorbed by that material, which means it resonates the
the atoms. And I was like, yeah, so it makes

(20:38):
sense you could maybe resonate the material and maybe change
the colors. I looked it up and Groc agrees with you.
Bro Croc says, yes, it is possible to change the
apparent color of a material by exciting it with specific frequencies,
but it depends on how the material interacts with light
and what. Of course, of course it does, duh Rock. Yes,
one of the ways you can change the color of

(20:58):
material by exciting it is by setting it on fire.
It's a good point. It will change the color it
actually begins to emit visible light, and when it's done,
it's usually like some kind of dark color. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's cool. But I mean I think that's that's good.
It's a fundamental observation. But at the same time it's

(21:20):
and you know, no disrespect, but that's sort of like
to me, it's sort of like saying, like, well, all
you have to do to build this pyramid is like
bring some blocks over here and stack them up. It's like,
how do you do it? That's what they did, you know,
But it's like the actual process of this is very difficult.
So cloaking, actual cloaking is trying to make it so
that the stuff from the viewer's perspective, the stuff behind

(21:42):
the object you're trying to cloak, is visible. You almost Yeah,
Camouflage is basically your best op, right, I mean, because
you almost need to know, so you need to wrap
the coming at it exactly in giant magnets. Basically, I've
thought of it as is it you know, are you
You're trying to bring the light around the object so

(22:05):
that all the everything around it is just moving, it
doesn't touch it, and from the viewer's point of view,
no matter where the viewer is it sees what's behind
the object. But how do you achieve this effect? Grevit clensing? Right, yeah,
the only known way is previatic lensing. So we yeah,
so you have to have a black hole. That's it.
That's it, that's all you need. Right, cool cool email though,

(22:29):
this is why the ideas are great. Okay for this
is from Laura uh and this is about Cosmic Summit
twenty twenty four. Oh no, good morning, grumpy Russ. Good morning.
Very rarely does an email that starts out like that
get accepted to read on the show. Usually I'm as
soon as I read that, I'm lucky. Nope, you'd never

(22:50):
tell a grumpy guy he's grumpy anyway. It says when
you thanked me for supporting you all after the concert,
I said that I loved you guys so much, And
I realize that sounds strange and in a way I
wanted to explain you don't need to read on the show,
but you can if you want. In the last five years,
Snake Bros, Cosmo and other podcast have helped me focus
on something other than all the stress and problems of

(23:11):
a spouse with cancer and everything that involves, including being
the only provider in the household, working and trying to
care for him through botch surgeries, chemo radiation, and constant sickness.
Yeah jeez. During the same time, COVID happened and my
boss tried to force me to take the JAB and
I refused. I was afraid of losing my job for
several years, terrified. Really I needed something to feed my soul,

(23:32):
and just about that time I discovered you all and
found my people. It has helped me get away from
all the stress and keep my brain occupied and entertained
while maintaining a home and caring for a six spouse. Also,
I want to congratulate to you on your engagement to
Sweet Elisaw. It did work out, did work in the end.

(23:52):
I wish you both the utmost joy and happiness, and
I know you will have many great adventures together. She
seems very sweet and so pretty leeb and swissin Yeah.
In June of twenty twenty four, Sweet because we all
went to the summit, Yeah yeah, I think she met
her there. Yeah uh. I was thrilled to met her
and spend time with you all. I know in the

(24:13):
future I may not be able to travel much Mike
is finally able to manage a few days with me gone,
and that may not last. So I feel so grateful.
Love you all from La La See La La Sie.

Speaker 8 (24:22):
La La Sie.

Speaker 12 (24:23):
We love you.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
Keep working on that Christmas song you're learning this year.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Girl, she is super sweet. Thank you so much for that.
That was really good. Yeah, I feel for you on
the on the on the situation you were in. I mean,
this is a long time ago. So anyways, we have
we have really close friends that have been through that
as well, and it's yeah, get it, at least from
the outside perspective. Ah, Lucid Jogi twenty Bucks. Ben talked

(24:51):
about you yesterday on Rogan. Please ask Randall, Jimmy Orbin
to get you on. Yeah, thank you, Ben. I haven't
listened to the show. If you have it, listened. That
was an epic episode. I mean the last one, you know,
but this one was really good. Okay, I mean I
think it was the last one. Last total trash, total trash.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
Yeah, at last I wanted to say something.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, way to step up.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Ben.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Your first episode by yourself with Rogan was terrible, but
this one was pretty good. No, they were both great.
But this one was even all I'm trying to say,
it was even better. And they went for way longer cool,
and they got into the sacred numbers. You know, they
start out with the Labynith, Love the Labyrinth, the Labynith.
They talked about the Labynith, but moved on from that
pretty quickly. Did like a lot of sacred geometry, went

(25:40):
more around the world. There was a lot of Egypt talk.
They discussed the you know, the tail of two industry stuff.
But anyway, it was really good and yeah, they first
been mentioned when they got into Peru. He mentioned the
the sort of vibrating the stones. Yeah, idea. Gave cal
credit for my idea.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
No one can tell you.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Snooze, it's not my idea. We were just giving bit.
Like when we were in Peru. He was like he'd
tell people like, yeah, so Kyle has this idea that
I come to it later be like, bro, that's my idea,
and he's like, oh shit, I'm sorry, And then he
tries to say it's my idea, and Kyle's like, dude,
this is my idea. The point is is that like, wait,
this is I don't know whose idea it is. I
definitely talked about it. Kyle talks about it. It's it's

(26:25):
my idea though. But anyway, so he mentioned you first
about that, saying like, this is my you know buddy
Kyle from Brothers of the Serpent, and this is his idea.
It was really cool. And then later he called us
the brothers of the construction guys. I that's talking really fast.

(26:45):
He was going the podcast name is so long that
he got bored halfway through saying it. And then he
just tells Rogan like, they're construction guys. And so they
had this idea on how the pyramids were built. We
should just start a channel called construction guys. That's what
we just said. She's like, this is what you should
call a new channel, construction guys. That's cool.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
Thank you, Ben. That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Yeah, I really appreciate that, bro. It was it was
really nice of him. And he referenced, I mean, Chuck
got it got a shout out, ye uncle Chuckie. Uh yeah,
So it was good.

Speaker 13 (27:22):
He was.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
You know, I mean they were talking about all of
the greats, I mean John Anthony West and Robert Shock
and like all this stuff. But so to be mentioned
amongst these you know, these Uh, these giants in the
field was was really cool. So man, as for us,
thank you so much for asking to get on the show.
This is not something we would ever do. It will

(27:46):
happen naturally or it won't, right, but I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna go knocking on doors or whatever, and
I'm definitely gonna not. I wouldn't ask Ben to get
us on. That's just not how we know.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
I agree, and I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
If it will happen, it will happen the way it's
supposed to. But I really appreciate I know that a
lot of you want to see us on Rogan and
we would love to go, but I'm not going to
try to force it. So thank you guys. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah,
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(28:44):
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Speaker 8 (28:51):
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Speaker 5 (28:54):
Some standard model consensus reality people believe Brothers of the
Serpent to be some kind of goth metal and so
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(29:16):
the stacks of assumptions they have been indoctrinated to by
the scriptuards. So thank you. Wow he uses all the
vernac Yes exactly, This bro would pass the gate. Yeah. Anyway,
best regards and snacks from Paul. Thanks buddy, Thank you Paul.
That was an excellent, excellent email. He just lists all

(29:39):
the yeah terms. That was great. Okay, this is this
is a good one. Question for podcasts from James says, Hello,
curious to get your take on religion and spirituality. Do
you guys ascribe to a particular belief system, Do you
practice any rituals? What are your general thoughts on the topic.

(30:01):
When I was younger, I was Christian. I grew away
from it as I got older. Over the last few
years few years, I've been feeling a desire to get
back into some kind of practice. The problem is, I
can't just start believing in something, putting aside all the
logical contradictions and doubt that come with most practices, as
well as the inability to prove any of it is real.

(30:21):
At the same time, I can't deny the pull to
want to connect with something higher and a feeling there's
more to this existence than Adams smashing into each other.
At the moment, I'm in the agnostic camp, but I
feel a pull to the dist camp. Not sure how
to go about it. So what are your thoughts on it?
Thank you from James Man Little eight James, but we
will give you our thoughts. So I mean, one way

(30:44):
to look at it is the purpose of a ritual
is more or less to like it's for your own centering,
or your own calmness of mind, or something something that
gets you in like this maybe spiritual state to be

(31:06):
a little bit more aware or a little bit more
awake to the possibility of communicating with the divine Like
it's not I mean so, So what I'm getting at
is you don't have to believe exactly what the doctrine
says to engage in a ritual like going to church

(31:26):
and like going to Mass or something like that, and
just do going through the steps if it if it
makes like, try it, you know, go to mass, go
to a church and see how it feels. Because it's
really it's all about feeling right. If you do this
ritual and it feels good, you don't have to subscribe

(31:49):
to every aspect of the teaching. But if you just
go through the steps, like maybe you calm yourself, maybe
you're not thinking about a bunch of bullshit, and maybe
you open your yourself up a little bit more to
connecting to the to the spirit world. Maybe the ritual
you create yourself. Maybe it's some quiet time or some
meditation in the morning where you just sit and look

(32:10):
at the sunrise quietly, don't look at your phone. I mean, people,
I think that there's a lot of room here or
engaging in some kind of practice to maybe just open
yourself up a little bit more. I don't think I'm
I'm not like the greatest about sticking to a particular ritual,

(32:32):
but I do I do know that like in the
morning when I first wake up, if I if I
get up early enough, which means I need to go
to bed early enough, which means I need to do
all my shit before bed and whatever, all this, I
have to back way up like early in the day.
But if I do that and I get up early enough,
making the coffee quietly in the morning before the kids

(32:55):
get up, go sit in the on the floor in
the living room, stretch, just calm like it's that's great
and it definitely helps my mental state. And sort of
another one for me would be like working on music,
like coming out into the studio just focusing playing the

(33:18):
guitar or something like that, any type of like almost
like a ritual like just sit down, play the guitar
quietly with nothing in the way. It kind of opens
you up to something. I don't know what that is,
maybe the muse maybe however you want to look at it.
So I would encourage you to just do it.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
I agree with it. That was really well said. I
agree with all of that.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Really to hone in on just the mindfulness whatever it
is that you're doing, blocking everything else out and just
being very mindful of whatever you're doing. I just recently
read a book called The Living Christ, Living Buddha. The
book just basically went through a little bit of Buddhism,
a little bit of Christianity, and just how there's a
lot of similarities that you can find in there. But
mostly it just pointed back to mindfulness no matter what

(34:04):
you're doing. And I love what you're saying about going
and sitting in mass, even if you're not like hook
line and sink or everything that the Catholic Church is saying.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
I'm all for. I mean I'm not, but I still
go in there.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
I still send the kids with, you know, your parents'
some and it is nice to just kind of sit
in there and be.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah, well, but what's this so that you've been doing
this other thing where you're like you were telling me,
like I just need to do this every day, like
just sit. You have this whole thing where you just
kind of like sit there on the floor and like
look out the window.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
Just stretching or just a little bit of meditating.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
I mean, it's not like I'm a pro a meditating,
but it's just simply being calm and still reading a
book even makes me. You know, when I first I
started recently saying, Okay, I'm going to read ten books
a year.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
And when I first started, I would start reading the.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Book and then would think of something I had to
get up and go do, and then I'll be like, nope,
I have to stay right here and I have to read.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
I can't do anything else.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
So I think it's just what you're saying, is is
what we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Any thoughts, I.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Might just screw this potty, I mean, maybe I shouldn't
say anything.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
He then yeo, he, I.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Have one I got. I had a downfall of my
religious self, I know, five years ago, and then I
would say two three years ago, it's actually picked up
and become more stronger than it used to be. And
very recently, like a few months ago, I was specifically

(35:39):
like I was out of nowhere, seeing books, seeing videos
and articles about spiritualism were as religions. And what I
started thinking about is how that if you believe in God,

(36:00):
but if you believe in a good power of this world.
You also believe an evil part of this word on
a demon Lucid or whatever, and there is a sult
that any other kind of spiritual activities, it's always from
the other side. And I start to think about that.
You should be very careful how you call all these

(36:25):
self meditation times and everything, because any ritual you perform
actually has a power you put in it. And with
the word something to listen to you, you need to
be very careful who is listening to you.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, you could, You're like turning a light on in
the darkness, then it can be Yeah, so don't do
a seance to the god Pan for example, Like that's dangerous.
But I do.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Agree with you. Another book I read one time was
about rituals.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yes, I totally agree. I'm not I did make a
joke about that, but seriously, like I agree with what
you're saying. And it's so you know, to the emailer
who who was raised Christian, like you know the rituals,
you know what I mean, Like he you know what
I mean, He's he's been, he's learned like the the

(37:21):
the Christian doctrine. So it's like I'm not saying to
go draw a pentagram on the floor and light some
candles and whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So everyone who looking for who has this feeling that
he is looking for something, and you.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Can open yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Just be very careful where you're opening too, and just
gets the Bible. It's just my personal takes. Just and
read it.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Do not know, that's again my very very.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Personal be risk averse, be careful because yes, sorry.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
This English fluid speakers.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
But to the ritual point though a little bit off,
but a little bit on same topic. One of the
books that I read about rituals, the things that you
continued mind over matter, there is kind of something to this.
One of the I think I've told this maybe on
the podcast before, but this guy followed people around and
the walking on coal's ritual that people do and around

(38:17):
the world. He firewalking firewalking or beta coals. Yeah, he
hooked him up, put some sensors on him and when
they went through and did their thing, the body reacted
as though it was on drugs, but it wasn't on drugs.
Point of the whole book just being that what you're
doing in your mind regularly will also take on physical feelings. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
So yeah, so Scott Adams talks about the mind and
the body or the brain and the body, like it's
the same thing. Yes, So if you're treating your body badly,
your mind is not going to be very healthy either. Yeah, right,
you're gonna have it's it's there together. Like we talk
about this too, like how is this even if you

(39:02):
believe in a soul, it's connected.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
And if you're always thinking negative and shitty thoughts, it's
gonna affect you.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Gonnaffect your body. You're gonna become Yeah, it's it's there.
They're sort of one and the same. So there's there's
loose guidelines there. Right, there's like a healthy way of thinking.
There's a healthy way of of treating your body. And
I think ritual is good for that. Like you come
up with a good ritual, even if it's just like

(39:29):
we were saying, just like quiet, put the phone down,
don't look at the internet.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
You know, I just want to say one more thing
to the listen to the writer of the email. It's
okay if you go and poke around and find other things.
I mean, don't go poking around Satan's playground, but it's
okay if you go and look around for other things
and then you kind of find your way back to
a different version of Christianity in your mind or whatever it's.
I think it's all okay, you just need to be mindful.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Cool, you're dead, okay, Lewis crise. Ritual is discipline, yea.
Discipline is good. Discipline is everything. Right, you can use
ritual for discipline, and uh, it requires discipline to maintain

(40:23):
ritual activities. You need to work on that. But the
first question was do you ascribe to any like what
what are your beliefs? So uh, for me, this is
the most I can say with certainty is that it's
not materialism, right He James was the one who wrote it.

(40:46):
He was basically saying he's agnostic. I I'm not. I'm
not sure if I'm a deist, Like I don't believe
in any particular image of God or a God. But
I am not a materialist. So I'm not sure if
I qualify as agnostic, because I do believe there's more
than the apparent realm that we live in, like the obvious,

(41:10):
the physical, the material that we live in. I think
that that is only the surface of the actual universe.
That the universe itself is far more complicated and I
would say in this sense, I'm using the word universe
in its precise definition, and that it means everything. Right,
So I don't mean all the stars, I mean in

(41:32):
all the space. I mean everything. So the universe, whatever
this is that we live in, the part that we
can see and interact with on a day to day
basis in our normal frames of mind, is just like
the apparent part. It is the ah, what's the word?
It is the user interface for this particular phase of existence. Yes,

(42:02):
and this is so Kyle and I've had multiple conversations
on the show about the universe actually being composed of
pure information. The back end is what that is. I
think that that that, like, there is an enormous amount
of information somewhere that is feeding the interface that we're
dealing with all the time, including our own physical bodies. Right,
So that's those are beliefs. I would just say that

(42:25):
my one hundred percent belief is that the physical realm
is not all that there is, that there is a
some kind of animating force in us, if you can
call it a soul whatever, It is not necessarily material,
or if it is, it's not a material that we've
defined yet. It's some dark dark matter, energy, whatever. It's
some sort of But the point is is that I

(42:47):
do think that there's something about us and maybe everything
that's alive, although I'm less sure of that that there's
something about life as specifically us for sure humans for sure,
that that is coming from somewhere else that is eternal. Yes, right, yes,

(43:10):
So I don't know what happens after death if you
maintain this individual idea, but I think it's more likely
that everything that was learned during this life is subsumed
into something larger that is still you, but that has
existed forever and forever is not even the right way

(43:30):
to say it, because that implies time. It's timeless. I
think that there is a part of this universe that
exists out completely outside of time. Time is irrelevant to it.
Time is a dimension within it. Right time, is it
exactly right? So those are those That's how I interact
with the with the universe, and that means that paranormal

(43:51):
stuff to me, whether it is getting into a meditative
state and feeling like you're connecting with something higher, some
higher power, or seeing a ghost or having a premonition
that comes true experience after death, astral travel all of
this stuff is a result of the fact that we

(44:14):
are interacting with a very tiny aspect of a much
bigger system.

Speaker 13 (44:19):
Right.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
I don't have any particular rituals around how I deal
with those beliefs, except to say that there have been
a few times I've seen in the chat here the
chat has been saying some really cool stuff, but in
the chat they've mentioned nature. Yes, there have been a
few times in my life where I was in some
setting in nature that was akin to having a kind

(44:43):
of religious experience. One of the ones I remember specifically
is I spent a year in Vermont, and in the winter,
the deep winter in rural Vermont, there's something uh to
me about the way snow interacts with all the trees

(45:06):
and the ice and everything. And there was a place
where this road that I traveled off and had a
little waterfall of it was near it, and I went
by it in the winter. I didn't have to go
down that road all the time, because it was actually
over a mountain, but I went past in the depths
of winter because I had to. At one point some
other road was closed and the waterfall was completely frozen,

(45:28):
and the way the sun was coming in at that
particular time, and it was snowing that kind of those huge,
massive flakes. So these giant flakes are falling down extremely
slowly and the trees are totally covered. And I pulled
off the side of the road and turned the car off,
and it was dead silent because snow is like has
this dampening effect on noise. Yeah, so it's completely silent,
except the water in the waterfall was still trying to

(45:53):
be a waterfall behind all this ice, and there was
this like crystalline music that I can't describe it was.
There was some cracking noises like and popping and everything,
but there was also this like these notes and I'm
standing there and everything is white and the enormous trees
and I can't really I don't understand what happened, but

(46:15):
I had like this religious experience with how and also
the way the light was playing in the in the
ice there was all these blues and purples and anyway,
it was amazing and it just it blew my mind.
I was driven almost to tears. And it's that kind
of thing that like makes you realize, like this is
not an accident, it's a it's a work of art.

(46:36):
This did not happen by chance, and that kind of
realization it makes you look around and like all of
this actually is way too beautiful to be some kind
of ridiculous accident. The other part of the equation is
that you are designed specifically to filter out all of
the other noise so that the patterns of energy that

(46:59):
are coming out you make it amazing. Yeah, Like if
you could see every frequency of light, there would be
so much going on. So like you are a filter
that allows you to perceive this incredible beauty of patterns
in the way that that you did. That's right, So
you're also part of you know what I'm saying, It's
not just the universe. It's like your exactly right. Yeah.

(47:25):
I would just point out one comment earlier was saying,
you know, you can't believe how people that look into
ancient mysteries can still believe in Christianity. Well, like Christianity
is somewhat of a continuation of beliefs or systems, or
they told an old story in a new way. Yeah,
telling stories since the beginning of everything that we know

(47:47):
in ancient history that has writing. So it's like it's
not you know, Christianity really is connected all the way
through everything that we know of from from writing of
all ancient history. So I don't think that's I think
look more deeply into Christianity, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Through the same serpent, the same snake. Yeah, the same
story about knowledge being Keeden and someone touched it without permission.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah. The other thing I would say about what you
what you just talked about, is part of maybe maybe
not ritual is the wrong word, but it's like, take
the time to notice the universe, right, even if it's
even if it's going out somewhere and just looking at

(48:36):
the stars for a while, like away from the city,
or just going to some beautiful place in nature, and
just like Laura says, just being there and just totally
just be be there. Don't get involved in your phone
or whatever, don't go with anybody else. You know that
that our connection to the universe, our experience of what

(49:00):
is around us is we are specifically if you want
to go down this route designed two to feel the
universe in a certain way, like go do that, you know,
don't surround yourself with man made creations all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
Wow, if I had to go listen to a sermon,
I wish it was like that.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
Seriously. I don't if anybody's been to a Baptist church, but.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
You know how they're like people in the crowd are
like yeah, you know, I had to like hold myself back.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
That was really good. Thank you you. But you you
made the point I think is which you just stopped
and got out and noticed that you spent time there. Yeah,
to experience that. There's been a couple of times in
nature where that happened to me, but that one really great.
It was not I've never heard that. Yeah, it was.
I showed you the waterfall. I showed you that waterfall

(49:56):
when you were there, okay, but it was just that
particular time. Everything was. It was a moment and I
was alone and I turned off the car and it
was completely silent, and these giant you know, I don't know.
It was weird because there was light coming so it
was snowing, but there was sun from somewhere but it
was low in the sky came in and hit them

(50:16):
and just lit up the It was unbelievable the music
that it was making, you know, I just so good. Yeah,
that was awesome. So it's like, I think there's things
like that in nature that the ancients noticed and to
them this was uh.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I was.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
I actually was thinking about this when I was listening
to ben On Rogan today. They were talking about sacred geometry,
and it just reminded me that, like, why are these
numbers important? Like why are they everywhere in the ancient
structures and in the It's because the ancients discovered them, right,
nobody made these numbers up right, discover them in nature,
and to them they are finger prints. Yes. We always

(51:01):
talk about how we're looking at the structure and look,
it's unfinished or part of it's destroyed, so we can
see into it, and that lets us see into the
minds of the builders. The ancients were looking at the
world and the universe and finding these numbers, and to
them this was looking into the mind of God. That's
why the numbers are sacred. Okay, let's go back to church.

(51:24):
If you're gonna go go to an awesome church, go
to one that is like, yeah, I mean, if you've
got to, if you're in a city there's a cathedral somewhere, Yes,
go to the cathedral. Yes, because this is like these
buildings are designed to be inspiring if you have that option,
and they.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Have very specific at least old Church I used to
they have very specific sounds. Yes, the architecture bill. It's
not just a random nothing wrong with random buildings, but
they have a very specific there's.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
A lot long row random buildings, like.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
The acoustic are you talking about the acoustics?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Very specific? I think in US people more just taking
a random building and like, Okay, it's going to be
chorted here, which is great, but it's like.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Or they specifically build it, but it's not a cathedral.
It's like, yeah, but they used.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
To built in a very specific way.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
Remember the one in Italy when we.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
So So this is what I'm saying. Like Randall talks
about this too, These buildings were designed by this by
according to the same numbers and ideas that come that
go as far back in history as we as we
can find. The Masons perhaps were one order that preserved
these ideas. They kept them as a guildy. They intentionally

(52:45):
built things in this way. It was this is the
whole idea of like the grand architect with the freaking
compass looking down, so as above so below, we're building
this structure to mimic the universe in some way, to
mimic the fingerprints of God. Right, that's a good place
to go, even if there's no mass. Just go in there,

(53:06):
sit down. Yes, the building itself is as a testament
to the to the universe and the mind of the creator.
That's the idea. Whatever the creator is, it doesn't matter, right,
this is this is how I view it. I I don't.
I also grew up Christian, obviously, but I what I've
done over the years and over especially with studying all

(53:27):
this stuff, is I've tried to strip away, like all
of the layers that get put onto this idea of
a god until I'm just down to like, okay, something.
The universe is not an accident. I don't know what
that means in terms of creation of the universe, but
all I would say is I don't think it's an accident,
and I think that there, you know, the universe is

(53:49):
a much larger system. So that's as That's as far
as I can go with my beliefs because I haven't.
I haven't really attached anything else to it because I
don't know enough. Right, I have definitely felt an interaction,
like for example, with DMT, there was an interaction there
With some it felt like an interaction with some kind

(54:09):
of entity that was sort of gleefully showing me things
in a sort of like, let me unfold all of
these It was like, oh, look, here's the world you
think you understand, let me unfold it into a million
different impossible directions, you know. And what I took out

(54:29):
of that was Okay, the universe has far more depth
than I can see. There's many more ways that you
can turn ninety degrees than the three that we know of.
In other words, there's more dimensions. But we exist in
three plus some time. But I think there's more than that.
And you know, but I don't have any specific ideas

(54:53):
about what these higher entities are or if it's even
more than one. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even
know if that even matters like counting. You know, it
might actually just be one thing that isn't a single
it's not like you can't even call it a single entity.

(55:13):
But it also isn't multiple ones. I can't even I
can't really describe it. Pause. This is a very Yeah,
we could go with the trinity. It's more than one,
but it's only one. That the number is irrelevant. Yeah,
the point is it's this information. Yeah, but I'm just
saying that's put in there for a reason. Yeah it's three,

(55:33):
but it's one. The number is irrelevant right as you say.
It does the same thing when it was like there's
a description where it's like, you know, to God, a
day is like a thousand years, A thousand years like
a day to me. That's trying to say, like the
numbers don't mean and time doesn't mean anything. So when
you see the actual numbers, they have another meaning. Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
Amen or.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Amen, raw food, you're gonna have to do something about that.
I love you, but you're gonna have to do something
about that. Thank you, head food bro, Thank you. Ten
Australian Bucks says Chris Rock's character and dogma said something great, paraphrasing,
it's better quote it's better to have a good idea

(56:19):
than a belief because it's easier to change an idea
with a new new information than changing a belief. That's
I think that's right. I I would say that what
I'm trying to describe is a belief because I can't
prove any of it, but it's also an idea. I
don't have it as a dogma, you know what I mean? Yeah,

(56:44):
I think you can believe something and find out that
change your belief I think what he was trying to
say basically is like, don't be dogmatic in your beliefs. Right, So, uh,
I see, you guys are all having a lot of
fun with the thanks, you're having a lot of fun

(57:04):
with the with the with the topic. That's we will
do some stuff go ahead. I don't know what's going
on in.

Speaker 8 (57:14):
The best podcast I've literally ever. I'm so happy right now.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
It is a lot of fun. I think Kyle is
Kyle and Yusuf specifically have been and I've been tangential
this is but Kyle and us have been talking a
lot about, uh, the story of Osiris. We've mentioned it
on the show a little bit, but maybe we'll do
something in more detail at some point. But I'm working
on it. I'm going to make a video. But yeah,

(57:42):
one of you said, Jesus is the Sun, not a
real person, Jesus is the Osiris story. Yeah, it's multiple things.
It's multiple things the sun, sometimes it's the moon. It's
very cosmic. Yeah, it's also human. It's also a human story.
It's also yeah, so it's deity, it's human, it's the universe.

(58:04):
It's a lot of things. Yeah, I think they're supposed
to relate to us, and so that we become like,
do you think about this? This is why we only
get through three emails. When you're a kid and you
hear these stories like like okay, let me, let me
talk to my five year old about like giant burning
balls of mass in outer space that are doing all

(58:25):
this kind of stuff, and like, let me show you how,
like we're actually on a ball and it's spinning. This
is difficult. But if we personify these things and we
give them character and we tell a cool story and
we keep telling them, they're like, wow, you know that's cool,
So you can you can start there, and by the

(58:45):
time they're older and they get through some a little
bit of initiation and become a man, they can realize
at some point they can have their own realization. It's like,
you can't you know this whole thing. You can't lead
a horse to water or whatever it is. Yeah, something
like that. Forget the phrase exactly. You can lead a
horse to water, but you can't make them for it.

(59:06):
There you go. You can't. You can totally just I
just did it completely wrong. It's great yeah, you should
lead a horse to water. This is but that's a
that's a great analogy because you start out telling them
this story and then they find it out on their
own that it's something else, that it's something deeper than it,

(59:27):
maybe something more true. That's the point you you don't
hammer it into them. That's dogma when you're hammering all
this stuff into them, like we are doing right now
in the university system, and you're saying, this is exactly
how the universe works. We know, here's what all the
stuff is inside of everything, and this is the way
it all functions. Oh wait, we have this giant problem

(59:49):
where when we start looking at it more deeply, it
doesn't function anything like we said it function. But we're
gonna stick with the model this is exactly how the
universe works. We've got two totally different models to don't
listen to this one because it's too complicated for the plebs. Yeah,
you can keep this one. Yeah, this is I'm talking
about modern physics at the moment. But the point is

(01:00:09):
is that that is what we're doing with teaching about
the universe in the school system. We're teaching a dogma.
Whereas if you if you personify these these forces and
these you know, these things in the heavens. You personify
these aspects of the universe, and you teach children by

(01:00:29):
the time they're old enough to figure things out on
their own, they might actually gain the knowledge for themselves,
and then that's going to spur them onto I think
greater things, Like I don't know. I think it's all
part of the same deal. We're we're teaching a human

(01:00:50):
story that can become a cosmic story that can become
about the universe, that can become a lot of different things.
So it's it's, uh, I don't think. Yeah, I don't
know anyway. I think I'll stop there before there are
some I mean, this whole time I've been thinking of

(01:01:12):
there's quite a few ideas that I have on this,
and I just and I'm just like, no, it's too
hard to talk about it. It's too complicated and I
can't articulate it. I never have been able to, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
Feel the same way like I haven't been able to.
But what you just did, I was like, yes, this
is I wish I could say it all just like this.
I'm sorry now that it's been recorded, I'm gonna am
I'm gonna be like, how do I say this next time?

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
I need to talk about it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
But there are there there's like this concept and now
I'm going to try to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
There's a concept.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
That that that there's a resonance in the the really
large structures that we can see in the universe, and
these interact with us even though we're like a tiny,
like minuscule speck in that system in the same way
that like this table is has many, many, many trillions

(01:02:11):
of electrons in it, right, lots of electrons, to the
point where any individual electron you can basically say, well,
I mean it's sh it doesn't matter what that electron
is doing because it's really a part of this giant
says well, it does matter because that particular electron is
actually affected by everything that happens with this table, the
fact that there's stuff sitting on it and all this

(01:02:32):
crap is here. That electron may have no idea that
these are here, right, that this thing is here, or
that this stuff is here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You can smell them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
But every time I picked this up and put it down, yeah,
energy goes through the table and changes the state to
all the electrons in a tiny way. Right, So I'm
saying that the whole universe is like this. It's all
connected through some kind of information system that I don't
I can't explain because I don't understand it, right, the

(01:03:03):
same it's the same with us. Like now, I'm a
gigantic collection of electrons and protons and neutrons as well.
But that's besides. What I mean is like I'm like
the electron in this table in the universe that there
are that the fact that I'm in a universe means
that I'm affected by cosmic things, and I have no
idea what that cosmic stuff is. We don't. We're still

(01:03:24):
looking out with our we keep getting better and better telescopes,
and we're looking out and find oh, look at this pattern,
look at this superstructure out here, look at about this
is bending light around that we're finding these things out.
But those things have been happening, yeah, the whole time,
and they affect things, you know, Like, I guess one
analogy I can give is when I found out that's

(01:03:45):
that quite often, actually most of the time, I think
is the idea. Now, cloud cover, especially storm cells, are
caused by cosmic rays. Yeah, they're caused by cosmic rays.
The amount of cloud cover on the Earth has to
do with how many cosmic rays or impact. So the
next time you get rained out, just blame a supernova. Right,

(01:04:07):
it was a supernova that happened a million years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:04:10):
Okay, I see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
It's god dang it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Another star exploded, like right, and so this is another
million years ago. This can cause concert This can cause
a religious experience. Somebody in the chat mentioned go out
on your porch during a storm, yes, and look at
that lightning coming down and be like, that is from
a star that exploded who knows how long ago. The
only reason that shit is happening is because we exist

(01:04:34):
in this gigantic cosmic net or web, and everything is connected.
And these tiny chunks of atoms are flying out of
a star that exploded at nine to nine point nine
nine nine percent of the speed of light, and they
hit our atmosphere and the next thing you know, there's
a bolt of lightning hitting your house. Run into a bunch.
This is crazy air like molecules of air.

Speaker 14 (01:04:56):
Yeah, the nucleus inside some molecules of air up there,
and it generates all these cosmogenic nuclides, and that's why
we have carbon fourteen and beryllium ten and all this
stuff that we can use for dating archaeological stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
So we're now we're the fact that stars explode help
us figure out how old things are in archaeology. Yeah, right,
these tiny things that the fact that we are on
this little bitty, tiny ball and we're little bitty things
on this The ball is enormous to us, so we're
tiny on it, but it's tiny inside this gigantic system,
and yet that whole system is constantly affecting it and us.

(01:05:31):
This is what like check out the episode on thermonuclear
sens synthesis, but this is what it was. It was
these kinds of realizations that made me go back and
look at astrology and say, Okay, I don't understand any
of this, but I have way more accepting that it
can actually mean something. The position of the universe over

(01:05:51):
the sky at the time of your birth actually does
have an effect. She's like, I don't know, I don't
know what that means, but it's true, right, I'm just
saying this is crazy shit to me. Listen, also causes
like some kind of gen z women have figured it out.

Speaker 14 (01:06:14):
They have actually figured out what the cause of it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
They are Heather Heather, which Heather Shy, which we had
on the show. It was not Z just now non
gen Z. But like she does have it figured out
and she is she can sit down and do charts
and ship and it's amazing.

Speaker 11 (01:06:33):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
And the only thing I can think of is that
the magic of this system has to do with the
fact that we are in a gigantic universe that does
have tiny effects that are impacting us all the time.
They can't be measured without like you know, massive particle accelerators,

(01:06:55):
so you can't check what's happening to you all the time.
But it is. It does. Yeah, Brendan Ryan as above,
so below covers right, just about everything. That's one great point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Going to have a migrant because something explodes in the sun.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
Yeah, well that's right. But I'm like, drink more water. Okay, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
You're supposed to put your feet in hot water and
sending cold on the back of your neck.

Speaker 8 (01:07:21):
Yes, I just went like shock your body. Well, okay,
you did it, Russ. I think you were able to
explain it even Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
That was good, that was good. I love it. Large. Yeah,
we're in a large system. Yeah, everything affects everything else,
and I'm so yeah, wow, Okay, this is from Bruce. Bruce,
I don't know if you're still in there. Thank you
for sending this email more than a year ago. Uh
and he has questions on our go Beckley Tepe presentation

(01:07:48):
at the Cosmic Summit. Wow, he says, Russ and Kyle,
that was a fantastic presentation you guys did at the
Cosmic Summit. You, sir, the informal tag team Nature made
it less of a lecture and more of an interaction
with the audience. My question, which I had written down
during the presentation and later came up, came up later
in the Q and A, was is there anyway or
any concerted effort to better determine the age of the

(01:08:08):
megalithic construction? What about directly underneath standing t pillars? Were
any of the pillars found still in their stands? It
might be difficult and a precarious effort, but it would
be nice to get that information if possible. Also, perhaps
even if even in one of the newer sites with
pillars or other megaliths. Thanks snakes from Bruce, he says, so, yeah,

(01:08:31):
how do we date the actual megalithic construction. I think
the problem is we don't know the extent of reconstruction.
So even if we found a pillar, I don't think
any of this has been done. Maybe it has since
I did all the research for that.

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
But maybe they found an NC two pillar. They maybe
they lifted it up, maybe they got some carbon datable
material out of there, and then they said, well this
pillar was stood up at this time. Well, maybe it
was again again, right, it could have been again multiple times.
I think there was one thing where they found like

(01:09:05):
a bone in one of the slots under a pillar
I seem to recall.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
I don't the problem is still valid that that you
don't know when it was removed.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
The Yeah, the problem with carbon dating in that in
that site is that the bones. Something happens with the
Is it the collagen or is some some some material
that they use that they really need for the carbon
dating in the bone materials and the other organic materials
in the sediment gets saturated with some other chemical having

(01:09:36):
to do with water running through the sediment and dissolving
something in calcium or what. I don't I can't remember
what it is, but it's it's a particular bone material
material that gets that gets basically replaced, almost like it
gets replaced by some other things. It's I think it's
I can't remember. Anyways. The point is bone are difficult.

(01:10:00):
They did find a bone, I think, under something, but
they couldn't get a date. But the main point, as
Laura said, is it could have been reconstructed multiple times.
I just think the more I look at this, we've
we've since the Cosmic Summit, I think we went back again.
We've been back again since then. More research was done

(01:10:23):
and at this point I think that the pre Pottery
Neolithic a were stewards of the site for about two
thousand years. They which is incredible. I don't think that
they built the megalithic site. I think there's very little
evidence that that's why there's such a giant mound. There
is a huge mound because they were there the years

(01:10:47):
and they originally they were saying they weren't domiciles all
this kind of stuff. Well there were domiciles at go
Beckley Tepe. It's not a great place to live, but
they did make themselves some places to live, even though
they had to go way down for water and all
that kind of stuff. They did it at Krahan Tepe.
I think what's going on is they found these sites,
they revered them. Maybe they were even charged with protecting

(01:11:10):
them and keeping them, keeping the memory alive, keeping the
symbology going to keeping whatever story they were telling themselves.
Maybe they ritualized it. I don't know, but for two
thousand years they kept these things up, which is kind
of like you think about a cathedral. You know, some

(01:11:31):
of these cathedrals we've been renovating and using like consistently
for fifteen hundred years, one thousand years some of them.
Is that right, there was six hundred a d these
Gotha cathedrals, so it's like we're doing it. I think
that's what they did. I think so they dug them
up multiple times because they would live up there and

(01:11:53):
they would build that the midden would grow, they'd keep
they try to keep the actual enclosures free amitted, and
then they would have some big storm and all this
midden would fall down in there and knock shit over
and half burry stuff, and then they would dig it out.
They would stand stuff back up, they'd stack up rocks
and set the broken piece of the top of a

(01:12:14):
t pillar on that trying to recreate the circle. The
circles kept getting smaller and smaller. They were dragging pillars in.
This was you know, that's what I think was going on.
I don't think there's any debate, am this is what Okay,
So there's been a couple of good comments and questions
in here. Number One, in the case of go Beckley Tepe,
you can't dig any farther down because you hit they

(01:12:36):
already have hit bedrock. That the pillars are in bedrock platforms,
there's no farther down to dig. Now in the case
of like inside the area under the cover, there's a
lot of material that hasn't been dug out by archaeologists,
but it's actually architecture. There is nothing inside Go Beckley Tepe,
inside the covered area that is not architecture that hasn't

(01:13:00):
been dug down to the bedrock. That's right. The other
thing that was so people were asking, like, how about
optically stimulated luminescence or any kind of luminesceence dating. The
problem with that is that luminescence dating requires or you
have to make the assumption that Okay, let me rephrase
the date you're gonna get is the last time this thing,
the stone sample you're taking, was either jarred it was like, yeah,

(01:13:26):
it was affected by any kind of energy or hit
by sunlight. So earthquake could screw that up falling over
right an earthquake. But we know that the pp and
A people inhabited it for a long time and we're
moving things around, so it doesn't matter. In order for
you to get a proper date with optically stimulated luminescence

(01:13:48):
or thermal luminescence, is you have to say that this
hasn't been moved since it was built. You still have
to know it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't renovated, right, So
I think that any luminescence stating is just going to
give us the same dates, and probably younger ones because
they've been moved a bunch of times. The oldest dates
that we've that we've got are for the bottoms of

(01:14:10):
the walls, and I bet you the t pillars have
been moved and jarred more like after the bottoms of
those walls were constructed. See, this is the thing. It's
not go Beckley Tepe is really not that important. I'm
just gonna say that podcast. Over the second half of
that sentence is compared to the entire complex of sites

(01:14:34):
like Go Beckley Tepe. When you look at all of
them together, it's gonna give you the bigger picture. Go
Beckley Tepe by itself is not good enough. Like like
they've done tons of work at Go Beckley Tepe. They
can continue, they could dig, they could do like what
Jimmy Corsetti says, remove all the rock walls, look at

(01:14:54):
all the artwork. It's still not going to teach you
everything about the entire situation because they're there are multiple
sites like this all over that area. They go all
the way down into the southern Sinai. Those places haven't
been touched since like the thirties. Yeah, and there's a
giant we're found before Go Beckley Tepe, and they have

(01:15:14):
been since like abandoned. They're not archaeological sites anymore. Yeah, Okay,
So this my point is you have to look at
the bigger picture to figure to really figure out what
was going on or to get the best information. In
my opinion, so coortek Tepe is like one to two

(01:15:36):
thousand years older than Go Beckley Tepe. I mean, come on,
like that one of two thousand years oldest date. It's
it's pre end of younger dryest it's fourteen thousand years old. Yeah,
so they need to study that more. Right, But back
to the original question, which is, can we actually date
the megaliths?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
Unfortunately, unfortunately no, But if we get enough contact next
we might be able to, like, for example, we might
be able to say, like, let's say they study kretek Tepe,
they study and it keeps going back and they and
they find other sites where they're getting older and older
dates with the same iconography, same type of construction. You

(01:16:18):
can then you can then start to like get an
estimate of like, well they were they were doing this
a thousand years before, go Beckley Tepe. Maybe these pillars
are older. Yes, right, you see what I'm saying, especially
if they find one that has the same or similar
megalithic instruction. Doesn't have to be T pillars whatever, but

(01:16:38):
if it has similar iconography, it's circular buildings, maybe there's
T pillars. Maybe it's just pillars, like we don't. I don't,
I'm not even sure. Okay, No, the pillars in Enclosure
C were not t's the big ones. They're just squares.
Were they straight? I didn't. Yeah, they're rectangular, they don't
have tops, they don't have tops on them. Yeah, the

(01:16:59):
bust but the but the at least I think the
reconstruction ones, they're not teep shaped at the top. But
the point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter.
But if they can find one that doesn't have a
giant midden pile around it, in other words, that hasn't
been disturbed since it was put up, no one lived there,
they all fallen over, and then there would be like
just sediment on top of it. Right, it's buried by nature. Yeah,

(01:17:23):
and there's no living materials around it. That would give
us the closest possibility of dating the actual megalithic construction.
Right when you go into the southern sina I mean,
it's it's possible because that place is just like sand.
They're buried in sand. Yeah. It's a very different environment,
yeah than in that area of Turkey. Very dry, so

(01:17:47):
it's not going to be inundated by tons of Oh, Bruce,
is here good water? Anyway? Glad we finally answered this
question like a year and a half later. All right,
thanks man, Sorry for the long wait.

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
Well, I just realized if I ever do run into
a real alien. What I'm going to ask? I had
never thought about it before, but we should ask questions
about the metalithic stuff all around.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Oh did you guys?

Speaker 8 (01:18:11):
It just not hit me?

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
Did you guys? Like, did y'all have anything?

Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Can you tell me what's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:18:18):
I mean, I know you might be about to kill me,
but I know before I just one question before I die.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
I would just I think if I got to ask
an alien one question, I would be like, can I
have your ship?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I would like, you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
Want their DNA?

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
Wow, it's going to be fifty sounds like a very
dangerous fifty match. Okay, anyway, great question. Okay, there was
another thing I want to respond Green Tea. Uh, you're
talking about very small portion has been excavated. How can
we know the purpose? I agree, we don't know what
it was for. I don't think we can say what

(01:19:02):
Go back to the Tepe or the other Tepe sites
were for at least the what they would call the
special building parts. Yeah, if you if you dug up
a portion of a football stadium, but then you found
out they were football stadiums everywhere, Then you started digging
up a little portion over here of this football stadium
one over there, and you're like, wow, these are all
the same design. Like, you know, it's possible you might

(01:19:27):
dig up one football stadium and find a helmet and
find some you know, stuff like that that you wouldn't
find in one if you focused all of your attention
on digging it the entire thing. Maybe it was incomplete.
Maybe they never finished it, they never played football there,
there was no astro turf. Yeah, dig them all up,
dig up pieces of all of them. I think you'll
get a bigger picture. I agree with that. There's still

(01:19:51):
a guy there with the football in his hand, just
a skeleton, you know. Just they were in the middle
of a game when the when the shit hit the fan,
all right. Next email, I wanted to read this with
This is actually really interesting because this is perfect for
Thanksgiving the episode we're doing now with listener comms and everything.
So it's called Congratulations. It's from Kevin. It says hello,

(01:20:16):
Russ and Elisa wanted to write and say congratulations to
you both. Was watching the live stream the other day
and saw the happy news at the start. Listening to
your podcast reminds me of listening to baseball or a
daily talk radio. You are in our houses and workspaces
and we feel like we know you, and of course
we are mostly nameless and faceless for better or for worse.
But one of the best things, and the thing that

(01:20:37):
comes across very clearly, is that you and your family
seem like good, solid, nice people, which makes it even
more of a pleasure to listen along and feel like
part of the extended family. Thank you, guys. This is
also seen in the guests, friends, and other casters that
are in your circle, including mister and missus Shy, Yeah,
Randall Soriah, Ben Marty, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
You have created a lovely community and we are all

(01:20:58):
very fortunate for it, which brings me around again with
the chance to say congratulations and send my sincereous blessings
and wishes for peace, happiness and harmony to you, your fiance,
your family, and all those around you. Blessings from Kevin.
Thank you Mormon so nice. Yeah, and once again, Kevin,
I'm so sorry that it's so late to get on

(01:21:20):
the show, but I marked that as soon as you
send it and sent it and I was like, I
got to read this one. It's really very nice. Thank you?
Uh what nothing? Oh, don't don't do it, don't do it.

(01:21:41):
Don't even say the word. There are giant piles of
mid covering the stones. I could go further, I could.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Karl snow sinks about the trash.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
You know, Yeah, I love trash. All right, this is trash.
This one is from Harley, Uh says hey, he says,
I am Harley. That's the title. Hey, guys, so cool.
You read one of my emails on the show awesome.
It's been so long. I don't remember which one, but okay, so,
he says, I have twenty six sodes till I'm caught up.
I've been showing everyone like I'm famous because you said

(01:22:21):
my name. Maybe Harley Harley. Yeah, I heard you talking
about why Egypt doesn't want to dig more, see more
and let us find out more.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
I think they think, quote, we make a lot of
money off of this, and if we milk it as
long as we can, this cash cow will last forever unquote,
or there is another group maybe living underneath it once
it kept secret. I actually think there's a group or
groups that have been around a long time that have
been keeping this stuff secret for a long time. That's

(01:22:56):
where I stand with that. I've again I was listening
to and Rogan talk about in Rogan's like why why
would they just that? Why would they do it up
so we could see the Tuke doc in the labynith.
I think there are people that don't that have been
keeping this kind of stuff secret a long time. I mean,
you know, you guys know as a fan of Bossley's
work and the Tale of Sir Richard, Francis Burton and

(01:23:20):
Percy Fawcett, like these these people were working for an
organization who have been trying to find this information and
they have been trying to keep it for themselves or
hidden for a long time. Yeah, and I think that
they like this is an old group.

Speaker 14 (01:23:38):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
So they're tentacles of power are in every country. If
you control the past, you control the present. If you
control the president, you control the future. Right And if
you have wow soul access to the truth, then you're like,
you know, the one eyed man in the land to

(01:24:00):
the blind or whatever. It's like you can see, but
if there's a big veil pulled over everyone's eyes on purpose,
That's what I'm talking about exactly. They have they have
got to maintain it. They have kept access to the
truth of human history, and in some ways, I think

(01:24:21):
Earth history right like the I think a lot of
the players are completely naive or unaware that that. Yeah,
well yes, but I think there's a group of people
that have been around a long time that are aware
and are doing it on purpose and have been have
have made efforts throughout the ages to find and keep

(01:24:45):
this stuff from everyone else. I just and they.

Speaker 8 (01:24:48):
Could be regular people like us, or maybe they're a
little bit different.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Well I don't Yeah, I mean this, Yes, you're right,
this could connect to like, yes, yes, the long the
long heads.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I just want to say really quick that you're going
to be in Egypt soon and they just opened a
new museum and I have already read some comments that,
you know, how old museum had all these tons of
stuff shuffled in the dusty, dark corners and no one
was paying attention to them, and now it's like a new, shiny, modern,

(01:25:31):
fancy museum, and some people saying it's just like, no,
a lot of stuff am missing. Yeah, so I'm just
gonna wait you to see.

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
Yes, yes, that's right. In case you guys didn't know
I am going to Egypt like on Monday. Uh, And yes,
we are going to the Grand Egyptian Museum. We've been before,
but the time, at the times we went before, they
hadn't done the Grand Egyptian Museum grand opening. So now
that has happened. So when we went before, it was
like two sections we're open and it's an enormous place.

(01:26:01):
So now all the sections are open, so I will
be able to go and see actually all the exhibits.

Speaker 13 (01:26:06):
Sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeah, I just feeling like I.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
Am interested to see you. But if the Cairo Museum
is still there though.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, but I feel like, just if we believe in
this idea of some group of people who try to
hide some stuff, I think this is the one flashy
evidence of this group actions.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
One aspect of it.

Speaker 8 (01:26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
I don't think, for example, my picture of this concept
is none of these people run museums. No, these are
like really really old families yea, that have been dealing
with each other for a long time, and it's a
very small group of people.

Speaker 8 (01:26:42):
I like, thinking about what you're saying, I haven't thought
about it in this way yet.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
But yeah, I mean, like you right now, where you
go the conspiracy ideas where you start at one and
you're like, who are these people controller and then you
go from like, well, maybe it's actually a whole bunch
of people that are just being idiots, and then you
come all the way back around to like, now there's
someone behind this, and they've been doing it a long
fucking time, and they've passed down that activity in their

(01:27:08):
families for a long long time. So we see this
happen where you get a new some kind of new movement,
some kind of new person on the scene and it's like, wow,
it's going to be new, and then they get captured. Yeah. Right,
So I'm speaking particularly of Zahi Hawas. Yep, we're talking

(01:27:30):
about Mark Lanner. Well, the the I just forgot the
guy's name, the clairvoyant, the dude who's who had the
visions in his sleep, and you read Edgar Casey Edgar
Casey Foundation. So it's like, yeah, the AARI. Here's this
the AARI. Thank you. I was going to say some
other acronym that would have been it's the foundation. The Yeah,

(01:27:51):
the Association for Research and Enlightenment or something like that. Yeah, AARI.
So it's like, here's this guy. He shows up on
the scene nobody knows. He makes these predictions and it's like, wow,
we're gonna we're going to train people to go and
find all this new stuff that he saw that was there,
and it's like they get captured by something.

Speaker 7 (01:28:13):
But then that's also making me think of the one
that you talked about. I can't think of his name,
but he would bounce in and out of these stories.
I think he went over and when we were talking
about Gods of Eden, Charlemagne or no, yes, no, is
that the guy's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
Charloking about the guy that was like a lot He
lived a long time and just kept showing up.

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Well, what's his name?

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Yeah, the Comte de Saint Germain.

Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
That makes me think of him.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
You were thinking kids Charlemagne by Steely Dan. That was
a great ye smashing together.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
But it makes me think of that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
You know that possibly it could you know somebody who
maybe is a force that can live longer, or anybody
out there seen the show Altered Carbon where basically they're
just swapping bodies out. It's the same, Oh it is, Yeah,
Altered Carbon is, yeah, but I don't think it's anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Yeah, I don't think he would.

Speaker 8 (01:29:12):
Be happy with it was a great show. But the
concept there was.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
That she's gatekeeping right now, he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Be happy with him with the world incronization, reincarnation.

Speaker 17 (01:29:35):
Well, but they just have other bodies, No idea's the
same person can just keep putting their consciousness in a
different body. So they really wealthy, live far away from
the poor, and they have a billion bodies.

Speaker 8 (01:29:45):
I'm just saying it's something else.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
So this is how somebody can live so long to
keep a thing going.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yeah, oh you just again. This might be sounds crazy,
but I feel like all the slangent about long believing entities,
some of them, you know whatever, might be true. But
I feel like it's a nice fairy tale about family
is a generation. Why it's such powerful because this is
what keeps your blood and flesh. You pass it to

(01:30:13):
your dynasty, dynasty, and you pass the ideas, And I
think all this, all these tales about one piers, it's
actually an idea that you were very close to your family,
and you pass idea as the core of your family.
This is your missions, this is what you're doing, and
you pass it to your grandkids grandkids. Yes, and this
is who actually one fires nowadays. This is an old

(01:30:35):
families who has one mission, one idea, one obsession, and
they just you know, strong enough to keep doing it
through generations. I like that, and I have different faces, and.

Speaker 7 (01:30:46):
More than one situation can be going on at a time.
Maybe there is one family that's been doing that.

Speaker 16 (01:30:51):
Maybe there's this other group that's doing something different, swapping
bodies out or just like their time traveling, or I
don't know, there could be different groups of But I'll
like everything that we're saying here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
Hey, skelet Or says that Altered Carbon is a good
but the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Book was a good. But I know, to be serious,
what I'm looking for. How did you say you've been looking.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
At it his comments for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
That's how you made it based on the book?

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
What's the world in Ukrainian rendition.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Or anyway, I'm just saying that I see the book
back then, TV, we don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
A word for making it based on a book.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I don't think I didn't anyone speak.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
In English, just say it in Ukrainian whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:31:40):
I didn't know it was a book. The first season
was awesome, but the second season.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
That's what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
With the modern.

Speaker 8 (01:31:50):
We need to put like some.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Here there to be serious. Adaptation is not that hag.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
Step that's it. Don't docs her s g Mark photography.
What's uh? She is responsible for the photo that is
the thumbnail for this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Actually, that's right, thank you for beautiful pictures photos. I
didn't even need a photographer in the UK. Here is
this one man? Well, this is actually her website name.
So that's that's legit.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
That is legit, right, you're right, I'm just kidding. Okay,
So Harley wasn't done talking here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Sorry, Carly.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
We got through the first to know we're going to
go ahead if you need to. Yeah, you want you want.

Speaker 11 (01:32:46):
To want to h water Jesus, Jesus waters.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
Jesus water, she wants why.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Okay, I have to tell everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
We could take a break finish the email in the particular. Yeah, okay.
So after he was saying, you know these people are
keeping this stuff secret, says today, I have a new
favorite SODE episode three oh one, the three hundredth episode.
My faves are always when y'all talk freely about your thoughts, ideas,
and feelings. This one, Kyle says he is rethinking or

(01:33:23):
soul searching after all the these eyes, the new eyes well,
those questions, and that quest is what got me here
to you. I was originally trying to find out a
timeline of events, sort of Bible versus standard model, and
I quickly got frustrated with it and started listening to
Isaac Arthur's YouTube channel. When I got caught up to those,
I got into geography, topics topics, and soon I found

(01:33:44):
Ranald Carlson y'all's podcast with him had me completely enthralled.
I was addicted for real when I got caught up there.
I looked to y'all since you were advertising yours on
there and been sucked in ever since. From time to time,
you talk freely about your thoughts and feelings. At this point,
just like mine, Yours is completely different than when you
started this. Kyle, I too, am confident there is something
else besides what we can see and detect from here.

(01:34:06):
I don't know what it is or how much control
or power it has, but I'm sure it's there. I
doubt it's anything we can understand or even imagine. I
have a saying, the more we know or learn, the
more we see that we don't know. Yes, and Russ,
I totally understand what you mean when you say that
now you have seen some places, it makes you not
want to talk about things you haven't. But I never

(01:34:27):
get to go see any of those places, and I
am anxious to hear you talk about more things in places,
so I get to hear about places I've never heard
of and learn more about them than I would any
other way. So please don't give up your old ways
of talking about places that are awesome and intriguing. Thank you, Bro,
that's great. That really does help, because I was a
nice compliment Sandwich, because Ruscott so much grief for that idea.
You're like, yeah, Bro, I totally get it. It's great,

(01:34:48):
but yeah, stop being a moron. Yeah again, thanks for
keeping me company here in the shop for so long.
I'm almost caught up in Kyle. I may take your
advice and just start over from Harley. Oh ps, my
daughter bought me a hat from y'all for Father's Day.
Super cool. I'm going to wear it every time I
leave and see how many folks say something about it.
And he's got it, Charley, Yeah, yeah, very nice. All right,

(01:35:16):
we're gonna take a break so the ladies can. Okay,
get some wine for you. Go stay with us. Folks
will be right back. That's right. Episode three one.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
Two different songs than the other one, So Mom just
changed tuning.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
Nice, but the beginning happy.

Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
Genius have complain.

Speaker 15 (01:36:05):
Journal nights and the camera.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
We're going to do it right. Yeah, it's on point
in the future.

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
It's gonna happens.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
Episode three, Old.

Speaker 6 (01:36:24):
Three hundred eisodes since the first one, and I.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
Love everything of you.

Speaker 15 (01:36:39):
In there since the first one.

Speaker 13 (01:36:43):
Episode two. That's a bride eye in the sky. I

(01:37:04):
think everything's gonna be all right because Morty's gonna tell
us it min you will leave. It's gonna be a
UFO somewhere in this story.

Speaker 10 (01:37:24):
We'll get to that, lad baby. Meanwhile, there's a bunch
of little people going crazy.

Speaker 15 (01:37:38):
It's episode three, Old, three hundred souls, he says, the
first one. Yeah, yeah, And I love everything. I love
you for being there, being there, being there.

Speaker 10 (01:38:03):
It's as long as you don't.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
Send pretty long of a.

Speaker 12 (01:38:18):
Just coffy ruts who eats up and he looks at
your email, doesn't he while he's making his coffee, brit
he's a look lilly.

Speaker 6 (01:38:38):
And if it's too long, it's a no of the God.

Speaker 10 (01:38:44):
It's going in the trash, trash, it's going in the trash.

Speaker 12 (01:38:51):
Something you don't say too long of and he's help email.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
You gotta catch him at the right moment. It's got
to be the right thing.

Speaker 10 (01:39:04):
Don't put to many details.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
And you're going.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
And we are back. Thank you guys for waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Sorry, guys, we just need some time.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
Hey, that's good. There's a line. The intermissions are a
little bit longer. That's worth it. When we have the
ladies there a little bit longer than intermission. That's okay,
all right, we have more. This is interesting, like they're
following this theme. You know, this might be a selection bias.

Speaker 8 (01:39:51):
Yeah, that's exactly where you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Were just feeling quite spiritual in those days when you
were starting the.

Speaker 11 (01:40:00):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
But we don't think about that. I don't. That's not
my job. My job is just to take them. And
that's like, that's what the crowd is saying. Yeah, Well,
I think what happened is is we're going through well
this one is from so we've now finally finished June
and now we're in July of twenty twenty four. But
I think people are responding to some I don't know,

(01:40:22):
spiritual stuff. We were saying in shows at the time,
I see people asking about Marty. So Kyle was playing
the episode three oh one song during the intermission there,
and yeah, we're talking about uh, you know, Marty's episodes.
We'll get to that later, Yeah, hopefully we will. We

(01:40:43):
have no updates so far on Marty, but we are
going to go see him as soon as we can.
Like I said, I'm leaving December May. We'll we'll try to.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
Do you have an update, well, I mean I don't
have to give it here live if we don't one,
but I do have like somewhat a resent.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
Right, Well, can do you just summarize it?

Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:41:04):
The last thing I know is that he went to
a place in well, I don't want to give too
much personal needs, but he he went somewhere and I
don't know if he's still currently there or not, but it's.

Speaker 8 (01:41:16):
A special place where they can really work on his brain.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Yeah. We did mention that, okay, okay, and I think
we should be going there in December, I mean January, okay,
So we want to make a special we're going to
go try to see him.

Speaker 8 (01:41:31):
If he's still there at that place, yes, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
Know, we'll see we definitely want to do it. Yep, okay,
this is from Greg and it's called only consciousness. Excuse,
says greeting snake servants. After listening to your last episode,

(01:41:54):
I have come to the conclusion, after my decades of
study of spirituality and stranger things, that there are postulates
that can only reach the fact that we are pure
consciousness tesla, like the Taoists tell us it's all energy,
frequency and vibration. After watching Anthony Shane or Chenny I

(01:42:15):
don't know, after Anthony Shane's many life after death experiences
on YouTube and Raymond Moody's book on Life after Death
and others, that this is the only answer. We are
here to entertain ourselves as observers, as particles and light
waves are waves on the sea. We are all linked
but operate as individuals. Yet we are not. There are
clues all around us and we just ignore them, as

(01:42:36):
in the case of religion, such as the quote from
the Bible, a days as a thousand years, and a
thousand years are as a day to the Lord. Simply translated,
there is no time. As the Hindus and Buddhists say,
this is isness, the life after death experiencers bring this
fact back all the time, pun intended. There is no biology,

(01:42:59):
there is no physics, and it is all consciousness. A
movie we play for ourselves to learn something and just observe,
experience and have a good time. No soul dies, no
one truly gets hurt. It's just the game and the entertainment.
Think about it. Reality only exists between the ears in
the brain. We talk about things we say we can prove,

(01:43:20):
Yet in science it is well known when you observe
and experiment it changes. We can share part of this
experience in our collective like the pyramids Machu Pichu. Yet
it is part of the group consciousness we created. So
in closing, thank you for the great entertainment, and eventually
we will unlock why we built the pyramids and what
we use them for in this consciousness. Keep up the
good work. I've listened to almost every episode. Loved the conversation,

(01:43:42):
family stories, farm stories, and the Missing four one one stories.
The latter in my humanity scare the hell out of
me and I no longer go into granite fields alone
or unarmed, even though it is all just consciousness. Best Greg, Yeah,
I wish we could change the idea to when things
interact they change. Yeah, I just wish that would happen. Yeah, anyways,

(01:44:10):
we did have some I think some super chats. Thank
you very much for the email. Yeah, I do want
to respond to this, but I don't want to forget
we had super chats to respond to. I think Ed
said something and okay, well respond to this first and
then we'll do the super chats. Okay, Yeah, we just
don't want to don't want to miss them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
I do think that there's I don't think you should
say that it's all consciousness. I do agree that the
way we interact, at least with this part is consciousness.
Is kind of what I was saying earlier, that we
use consciousness as a tool to interact. I mean like
that is that is where our perspective is from. Right,
each individual person, whether we're part of something greater or not,

(01:44:55):
we are a lot of different perspectives of something of
one thing. Right, we are observing something outside of ourselves. Now,
whether we're that whole universe or creation is something that
we're involved in in some way on a day to

(01:45:19):
day basis. We're not. In other words, we're not involved
in the creation or the ongoing generation of the universe,
at least not in a way that normal interactive consciousness
is aware of. Right, you would have to be like
some kind of like ascended master or maybe one of
the ancient mystics to remain aware of this. And those
guys were not normal, right, there weren't normal people. Like

(01:45:41):
the way normal people interact with the universe on a
day to day basis is from an individual perspective, centered
somewhere inside the body, interacting with a bunch of physical stuff. Right,
So I think that you can agree on a shared reality,
like I can say this is here. You guys can
all grab and say, yes, this is here, and we

(01:46:02):
can agree that this thing is here. Right, So to me,
that says that there is something outside of what's going
on in this head, because it's also in that head,
in this head, in this head. But these are all
just in your head.

Speaker 15 (01:46:15):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
That's solipsism and I completely do not believe in that crap.
So my point is, so my point is, my point
is to simplify this. It's it's the same, it's the
same argument I make for the simulation theory. Okay, So
if you want to if no one can argue with
you that you are the only thing experiencing everything that

(01:46:37):
is inarguable because we cannot possibly be in your head,
in you and ours to see that that is not true.
So if if you're gonna basically it's like simulation theory
and that if you choose to believe that, then like
you've solved the universe. So just stop being curious like that.

(01:46:58):
So I see that as just like that's a cop out. Yeah,
I don't think that's what I don't think that's what
he was saying. I don't think that's what Greg was saying. No,
I'm just saying the idea that, like all of this
is happening in my head. It's all my experience. Therefore
I can't prove that anyone else is experiencing anything. They

(01:47:18):
may not even exist because it's just all my experience. Yeah,
it's I mean, okay, well, let's just assume that the
universe is actually interesting. Wow, big assumption, you know what
I mean? Yeah, it's kind of like that. That's why
I'm li likening it to the simulation theory because like, well,
we can argue about that all day, but you're just

(01:47:39):
kicking the can down the road, Like, how does it work. Yeah,
So wherever the rules are, there are rules, right. Yeah,
So whether you think it's all in your head or
whether there's a simulation running some rules somewhere, just forget
that I am only a figment of your imagination. And
let's discuss the fact that this is here, right, right, Like,
let's talk about how does it exist? Yeah? What is

(01:48:02):
its mass? What is it made of? What are the
properties that governed? I open it and take a big whip.
You see what I'm saying. Like, it's just like I
don't even want to it's plotless to even start from
that position, in my opinion. Yeah, that's all I'm which
I don't think Greg. I don't think Greg was doing.
I was trying to say that I I sort of,
I sort of I understand this concept that like consciousness

(01:48:25):
is it? Right this, I lean towards the idea that
and this is an ancient idea that like animism, basically
fundamental forces have agency of some kind, because this would
to me seem to come from the fact that consciousness
is fundamental in some way, right I. Actually we were

(01:48:49):
we were discussing this, I guess we were talking to Mark.
We were talking about it, like is the sun a
conscious being? Yeah? Is the wind conscious? Sometimes you can
see how Yeah, it messes with you, right, I was
making this joke, and the wind is always sort of
pictured as a trickster sort of you know, yeah, it'll
mess with you. Something will fall out of your car

(01:49:10):
totally still, you got to pick it up times and
then you edit like Lance and you're like, okay, can
go over there to get as soon as you reach.

Speaker 7 (01:49:20):
Out, like you gotta sneak up on it, you gotta
act like you're not gonna be yeah, step on it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:49:27):
You can see why animism works. It's like, yes, these
things have a consciousness. And I feel the same about
I love this idea that animals have a spirit, you know,
behind them, that there maybe that that a single spirit,
like whatever spirit means, but there's a single conscious entity that,
for example, is in charge of like all the raccoons, right,

(01:49:51):
or all the deer.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
So the lower animals have consciousness and us, but it's
a shared consciousness across all of them, right. And I
think the Native Americans believe this is sort of a
kind of an animism idea, that there's a spirit of
the deer and a spirit of the bear and a
spirit of the wolf.

Speaker 8 (01:50:08):
And I've heard this, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
But humans are a little bit higher up in the hierarchy,
the spiritual hierarchy, and we each have our own individual spirit,
right which but it's a human spirit. So it's like
you can see sort of similar activities that humans all do,
but it isn't anywhere close to the way that all
deer sort of act like all deer, it's not the same.

(01:50:31):
So they have one animating spirit that sort of oversee
and maybe you know, you'll you'll die and you'll be like,
you know what, I want to be the deer guy
next time. I want to control all the deer for
a while, and you will be, you know, come back
and be the deer spirit for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
I don't know, I just haven't thought about it that way,
but I want to bring one maybe partially related, but
I think it's somewhere between great idea and more what
you think about. It's in Casenetta books. He talks a
lot and I might, yeah, I might. I might use
the bron terms because I was written it in Ukrainian.

(01:51:09):
But he talks a lot how people when they are born,
when they're kid like they don't speak for a while.
They don't have any memories. I guess science agreed that
we don't have any memories for like three years or something,
memories at the beginning, and we like, we cannot tell
what happened to us. We can't really speak for first

(01:51:29):
I know, two years, one year, I know. Anyway, The
idea is that people are humans are very social creatures
because we need to explain each other that okay, like
this is a table and this is a stop sitting here.
When we are born, our consciousness and the way we

(01:51:50):
see the world is very like we see it truly
how it is, and we need a mother or father
to tell us like this.

Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Is a table.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Explanation because how you're gonna speak to each other, like
how I see it? Let's image, our water is very complex,
has like Mozi Street dimensions have time is very relevant.
What if all of these or stereotaps constructions were created
for people to be in a society, like how we

(01:52:20):
can form us to be friends? And we're not agreed
if we would never agree that this is a table.
You're like, let's come to see table. I'm like, it's
not a table. The shark get away from here and
you're like, what we are talking about? Guys, I'm looking
on the waterfall. So the idea is that people from
the very beginning getting together, like, Okay, it's going to
be safer for us to live in groups, and let's

(01:52:42):
explain each others. This is a table, the shape you see?
This is it?

Speaker 7 (01:52:47):
This is a battle, yes, giving everybody a universal way
to Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:51):
Just talk about it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:52):
But you learned all this in a different language.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Yeah, it's not about words. Oh, I think it totally
is well, but there is a whole nice etymology about
words you and there is.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
You went to college for this, like, yes, the way
language shapes that's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
What I love about language because that's all nice where.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
Comment.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Yes, the way I believe that the language, your first language,
the way you speak is actually form your brain and
psychology a little bit, because I believe they all came
from the one source, and that's where Bible and legend
came from. But it's ended up got devoided a little bit,
and now we have at least the humans in a

(01:53:37):
modern history timeline got from different tribes speaking different languages.

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
The first language, but we used to all have one language, yes,
but now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
We do have different psychology. There were stuff And I
like to study etymology specifically because you can see how
like you have the feeling and you need to express
it somehow, and you're looking for a world and you're
creating the world to express asset. So the word is
a mirror of what you feel. And in some languages
you can see how initiative feelings was different, like how

(01:54:09):
initial different, Like how some languages has the words because
they feel something. In other nations or race they don't
feel it. They didn't have the first word because they
don't feel it in the first place to describe it.
They don't have this culture.

Speaker 5 (01:54:26):
There's no experience it for it. And it's like how
the Inuite have twenty something different words for snow because
they they live there and they can describe it, and
they have all these very descriptive words. It's this kind
of snow. We're just like, yes, snowing, But they'll tell
you and you'll know exactly what's happening outside with the
ice falling from the sky, whereas we just say it's
snowing and you go out. It could be sleeping, it

(01:54:47):
could be big fat flakes, it could be coming down
little tiny ones but no, they'll tell you and you
know exactly what it means. It's very because this is
there there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Because they want to express something you would if a
few you know, we're raised in Texas never even wanted
to express and feel about. Yeah, so yeah, languages. It's
the person who's say and starting languages. They can I
bet everyone who speak different languages can seize as connections

(01:55:16):
all about it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:18):
But isn't there also I love everything you said, but
isn't there also something about when you learn multiple languages
before you hit puberty or versus after after you hit puberty,
when you start to learn different languages, you're having to translate.
But before, when you're learning different languages, it's not actually translating.

(01:55:38):
It's actually just all wired.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
And I would not connect it to the puberty or
your process. I would say that it depends on your environment.
If you've been raised as a kid with English speaking parent,
and let's say you greatly speaking parent, then you're going
to have both languages. You can have both languages as
a first language.

Speaker 8 (01:55:59):
I think the brains it's to work different after puberty.

Speaker 7 (01:56:01):
I think that's why that they point to that, Yeah,
Asian in time, there is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
A lot of kids who studying in schools from like
first grade seven years old foreign languages, but they never
they still continue to translate in they never developed these
like feelings like like that it's all just wired. And
I know, you know in Ukraine, everyone's starting to study

(01:56:26):
languages when they seven.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
But the point of this is about how language governs
your your perception of reality, right, Like that's what it
is about. Yes, because yeah, so you you basically like
the universe is shaped in your mind based on the
things you are taught by your parents. Doesn't matter if
it's two languages or three or one. Yes, I agree, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
And there's all these experiments how people sitting in a
group in the same room and if one person sabotage
in the experiment and telling like this is red, it's
not green, but in hecond's green, and a lot of
people send into doubtin like I don't know, maybe it's right.

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Yeah, definitely has a big effect on your perception of reality.
I agree with that. And but yeah, in so far
as as as you perceive it doesn't necessarily change your
It doesn't matter what you call it. If you run
into it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
You know something I do believe, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:57:28):
I also may not know it's a table, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Can Yes, yes, it's yes, it just like somewhere. I mean,
I was just thinking about it and decided to bring
it out.

Speaker 5 (01:57:39):
I know this idea, I think I haven't read Carlos Castaneda,
but I'm aware of this this concept too, of that
that that that the way people interact with the world
is informed by these sort of archetypal ideas that are
held in language. Right, So you you actually change the

(01:58:00):
way a child interacts with the world by giving them
ways to interact with it that are other than running
into it. Right. That is a that is an excellent point. However,
I'm not sure that that means that that that the
language is having any change on the world. I agree,

(01:58:21):
except for how it changes you and how you interact
with the world. Right. So, suddenly, cut the kid becomes
aware that it's a table, and then he gets the
concept of what a table is for, and he stops
running into it and starts putting things on it. Right,
So that is how it changes the world, because it
changes the actions of the person with the idea, whereas
before the kid is just like, what is this thing? Bam,

(01:58:43):
they run into it, out, it hurt, it's an obstacle whatever,
but it still exists.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
Yes, I'm not doubting existing of a table.

Speaker 5 (01:58:50):
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, like, uh, because we
were discussing what I'm saying, James Pete, I can't remember
who are we talking? What Greg was saying, thank you,
thank you. Yeah, So I'm just saying like, it's the
argument that this is all consciousness is where I'm trying

(01:59:13):
to say. I do think there's something other than our
consciousness is yep. But I also think consciousness is fundamental
to the way the universe works. I just I don't
think that. Yeah, it's like it is fundamental to the
very bottom of the operation of the universe, at least

(01:59:35):
the part that we can interact with, which is why
things like mind ever matter seems to work sometimes, and
how you can how you can heal yourself, you know,
I know, it's it's like people think of it as
a miracle, but it's almost like your state of mind.
Especially when somebody is injured, it's really important to keep
them in a good mood. If they're in a bad

(01:59:57):
mood there, it's gonna take a lot longer for them
to get better. Right, Keeping a stiff upper lip is
how you get out of the bed, right. I just
I think that this mind over matter stuff Matt is important.

Speaker 7 (02:00:10):
I do.

Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
And also your own mentality changes how you interact with
the world, which is how consciousness is one way that
a consciousness is interacting with the rest of the universe.
But I think that the universe is informed by consciousness,
like I was talking about with the wind and all
that kind of stuff as well, that forces have agency
because consciousness is fundamental, not your perception. It's actually outside

(02:00:34):
of right perception. It is outside of your perception, but
it's also consciousness. But again, we're you know, we are
tuned in some way to perceive the universe is in
a certain way, and the language is part of that.
I totally agree with what you're saying. Okay, so we
had edfu. I'm sorry, I've lost your I got it right,
it's too far. These topics make this topic makes me

(02:00:54):
think where these long reigning kings just cloning themselves? Right,
So we're talking about all I was talking about people
living altered the Carbon, which is a good book I've
also wondered about. I mean, you know how how how

(02:01:16):
woo do you want to get? Like if they're if
there are yeah, let's put put type. If there are
other entities, non physical ones. They could be non physical
because they're from a long way away, like aliens. I mean,

(02:01:39):
they could be non physical because for example, and I'm
just throwing it out there, and maybe they come from
some kind of machine entity, you know. In other words,
it's an AI, a real one, a real AI, an
alien AI, or maybe there's one just embedded in the
universe near where we are. In the universe, you can
I've read a million science fiction stories where you in

(02:02:00):
when you've you end up with an AI that just
writes itself into the fundamental pattern of the universe. It
doesn't have a physical body, and then it can interact
with anything everywhere. It basically becomes like a kind of god.
This is like the way that's a demon.

Speaker 7 (02:02:14):
They anybody who's seen The one hundred and another show
The one hundred, they kind of touch on what you're
saying right there.

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
They bring that into the show.

Speaker 7 (02:02:22):
There is an AI that's just kind of like taking over, okay,
and is.

Speaker 5 (02:02:29):
It it's like it lives what it just in the
universe That's what I mean that it doesn't have to
have a physical presence. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 8 (02:02:38):
I guess it is kind of been like a thing.

Speaker 5 (02:02:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's like if the if the universe is
pure information and it can write itself into the fabric
of the universe. Yeah, it can just build itself out
of matter right anywhere. If it needs a body or
needs to move something it needs, it can make it
just make a little pocket dimension and that's where you are,
and then you can interact with the entire universe us

(02:03:00):
from wherever this is. These are concepts I've read about.
But the other the other way to look at it
is like, let's just say ancient evil entities or alien ones,
it doesn't matter, demons, whatever you want to call them.
And if these things are a fund if like fundamentally immortal,
and they can this is kind of what Marty was
getting right, they can take over a person. There's an

(02:03:22):
old uh. I used to listen to Coast to Coast.
I mean, I kind of believe this. We're just interrupt
real quick. Like the spirit, why does the spirit need
a body? It doesn't if the spirit is non physical
as we know, physicality today, it's still part of the universe. Yeah,
it can connect itself to physical entities, but it doesn't
need to. So there can be entire conscious entities that

(02:03:46):
don't have physical body and can just possess one. Somebody
just asked, but who made the machine? Well they could
be long long dead if it's an alien made machine
and they made it two or three billion years ago,
and then they they're in higher civilization died the machine
is still there because it's not it's in some little
pocket dimension.

Speaker 8 (02:04:06):
I see what you're saying. It might not need a body.

Speaker 7 (02:04:09):
But if we jump back to Edgar Casey and some
of the things that he said in the book that
I read, if you're if that spirit is trying or
the soul whatever is trying to complete the path, it
does have to have a body.

Speaker 5 (02:04:25):
That's a soul. I mean they seem to be distinct. Yeah,
they seem to be distinct, like, at least in the
ancient texts, the soul or this idea of the soul
is like a distinct thing for humans.

Speaker 7 (02:04:38):
But if you think about it, just jumping back to
Edgar Casey, that you that a soul.

Speaker 8 (02:04:43):
Has a path, that it's got to take. It has
to go through this level. Now, it's got to go
through this level. It's got to pass through whatever.

Speaker 7 (02:04:51):
What we experience here on Earth in these bodies is
part of that journey that you do have to go through.

Speaker 5 (02:04:58):
Right, Yes, I have read the last question, and I
was thinking of that one. That's one of them. They
build a giant computer yep, and then Asimov, Yeah, And
as it gets more advanced and the story jumps ahead
in time, the computer gets smaller and more sophisticated, smaller
and more sophisticated. Eventually it's like a two foot wide

(02:05:19):
sphere that exists in some strange part of space, and
eventually it just is everywhere, and it waits for the
heat death of the universe, and it recreates everything. Let
there be light the last question because people kept asking, right,
that is way out there. Yeah, so that.

Speaker 8 (02:05:36):
I wasn't even you just have to go rewatch what
was going on.

Speaker 5 (02:05:40):
That's not even where I was going. I was basically
getting to the idea of like an entity you might
refer to as a demon. I used to listen to
Coast to Coast and this this priest used to come on.
He was on a couple of times, and he was
one of the last really good exorcists for the Catholic Church,
and he told stories of weird exorcisms, kind of like

(02:06:01):
what you would have seen in the movie. But he
also said one of the things that he said that's
stuck with me the longest, that I often think about
was He's like, there's multiple kinds of ways that a
demonic he referred to them as demonic, but an evil
entity can mess with you. One the lowest level is obsession.
A demon, according to this guy, can obsess over hundreds

(02:06:24):
of people at once. It doesn't. It can mess with
a lot of people at once. An obsession just means
it's messing with your mind. Maybe you hear voices, maybe
you have bad dreams a lot. Maybe it makes things
move around in your house. It's gaslighting you, right, that
kind of crap. Possession is where it's trying to take
control of your body and you're fighting it. Those are

(02:06:46):
the ones where the priests are called in. That's the
ones where the weird ancient languages come out and there's
floating and whatever, throwing up and bleeding from weird you know,
all that kind of stuff. The minor obsession, you might
just have a whole bunch of synchronicities and other things
like that. Yeah, but those usually have like a negative connotation. Yeah. Right,
then there is what he called perfect possession, which is

(02:07:08):
where because he said, the reason possessions, the ones that
are popularized in the media are so violent and can
be deadly, is because the person who's being possessed is
fighting it. Perfect possession is where the person wants it
and agrees basically to let the entity in and there's
no fight. So now this person is walking around with

(02:07:28):
a powerful, ancient whatever it is entity that's either running
their life or helping them run their life. And he
says he used to say that he could see them.
He was like, I crossed the street because he's like,
no exorcists can help that person. The person has to
want the entity out. But none of these people were

(02:07:49):
in like very powerful positions. Yes, he said, many old families.
This is what I was. I'm getting at with the King.
I'm trying to get to this king thing. The reason
you can have one thing rule for twenty thousand years
is because it's possessing the same family line, but it's
the same entity. The sins of the father of passed on.

Speaker 7 (02:08:13):
I wonder if there's a little bit of an in
between the fighting it and accepting it.

Speaker 8 (02:08:19):
I wonder, as can the possession take place like unbeknownst
to them or or.

Speaker 5 (02:08:25):
No, okay, okay no. He said that there are old
families in Europe and in the Americas. This is what
this was his area that he dealt with. But he
was just like, there are old families that have passed
these entities down for generations. You know, it's perfect possession,

(02:08:45):
and this is the reason, part of the reason why
they aren't in you know, according to him. Again, I'm
telling you this is this guy viewed everything from a
very strongly Catholic lens, that these people had traded there
afterlife for power and wealth and status here and now,

(02:09:06):
and that the family had been doing that traditionally for generations,
for centuries and centuries, and so this is this goes
back to this idea that I have that there are
people controlling the ancient past. And I don't know if
it's the same families, but I wouldn't be surprised. And
the idea that you can have a single dynasty that

(02:09:26):
is referred to as the same name the person who's ruling.
It's like this person, you know in the ancient the
King's list, it's like this king name ruled for twelve
thousand years. Well, you know, in Egypt, when the and
I'm not saying the pharaohs do this, but you know
in Egypt, when the pharaoh became a pharaoh, he takes
on the name of a god. He is no longer

(02:09:47):
is referred to as whatever his birth name was. He
becomes Rah, you know. So see what I'm trying to
I'm not saying raw as a demon was. In fact,
there was possessing people. I'm just saying, you can see
all this idea of dynasties. So let's see who the
chat thinks are these demons.

Speaker 7 (02:10:09):
Okay, I like, I like where you're going with that.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
I I can go with demon stuff too much. I shouldn't.
I just I just jump in a rabbit hole about
demons and the recently a few months, last few months
or so.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
Well, you're in the right care But again, thank you, Edfou.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
Yeah, like rambling trying to get through that explanation, it
was good.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
I think you're right.

Speaker 7 (02:10:38):
That that was kind of some of that was a
new thought for me to ponder on I like that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:46):
I haven't listened to the telepathy tapes. Sorry, I need to.
I know about it. I need to check that out. Yeah,
me either. I don't even know what those are. Uh
king food, thanks for the cash for more Jesus water,
Jesus water, Yes, all right. Thoughts on Max's recent statements

(02:11:08):
about the vases being modern replicas are polished by modern methods,
I don't know. I I disagree. I think he's looking
at a small data set, you know, but he I
guess he is also looking at He's he's claiming that
some of this is coming from the stuff he found
from Matt Bell's collection. But Matt, you know, he's I
guess he's looking mostly at the Petrie information and Matt

(02:11:30):
Bell's collection. But I don't think this idea that the
the precision ones are modern replicas, I don't. I don't
think so I find it hard to follow. Yeah. The
hard to follow is, Wow, there's radiation coming from these
that's unnatural and not normal. Maybe they did nuclear machining

(02:11:54):
to Oh, these are just there's nothing special about them.
They're handmade and the modern ones are fake. So I don't. Personally,
I'm just like this is all over the place. There's
no consistency. Uh So Max came to our wedding. It
was great, it was it's nothing personal, it's just about

(02:12:15):
he's a great dude. It's like, I'm not sure where
he's going. We want I still want to get him
on the show and I want to talk to him
about it. What an easy I talked to him. I
was like, you want to come on the show. He
said yes, So we'll have him on at some point
and discuss it with him and we'll get his ideas.
But I don't think so. I think that the providence,
at least on some of the bases that have been
scanned are is very good and that it's agent. Maybe
he's a little too quick to publish about it. Yeah,

(02:12:37):
in my opinion, he's published a lot about it in
a very short amount of time, and there's a lot.
You know, there's there's problems, there's no there's inconsistencies. So
there's there's a lot to look into in these things,
and a bigger data set is necessary as well. So
that's my opinion. Thanks for the questions and the super chats.

(02:13:01):
Really appreciate it. Yeah, I really appreciate this. All right, well,
one more email email. We gotta do the emails, dude,
we gotta catch up. We're not doing a show like
this every day until we're caught up. Cut, let's see. Okay.

(02:13:23):
So this is another discord member called if This email
is called Elephant Hearts, and he says, I am on
the discord as Quantumized as well as on patren Ah.
Thank you man. So he says, this is my first
time reaching out to you. Spotify informed me. But keep
in mind again this is from twenty twenty four. Spotify
informed me that I'm in the top point zero five

(02:13:45):
percent of listeners for last year, probably because you guys
touch on all of my particularisms, my autisms, giants, lost civilization,
pyramids and weird places, pimp panzees, space genes, and weird
book reports I have to listen to over and over.
I'm not an elevener, sir, I am an eleven times fiver.

Speaker 4 (02:14:03):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
Wow, that being said, I've been looking for that damn thing.
That being said, you guys have helped me through a
lot depressing factory work on third shifts late nights with
my dad being in the er, from months general downtime
and long road trips. I know you guys way better
than you know me. So here's a little bit on
me if you want. Photographer, mathematician, physics, philosophy, nerd, gamer, craft, beer, Kawasaki, conspirator,

(02:14:27):
blah blah blah blah blah, snake. I wanted to say
thank you guys for enriching my life and in some
small way give back to you. So here is a story.
I'll provide the link, but also I will present a
short description below. See good. This is how it's done.
I found this out while reading the Mind Hacking Happiness
series by Sean Webb, who was on Randall's podcast and
also attended one of the tours. Brilliant guy and follow

(02:14:50):
as many of the same avenue as I do, absolutely
with absolutely worth checking out anyway. He mentioned a story
about a conservationist that passed away. I remember this story.
He worked with rehabilitating wild and captured elephants prior to
twenty twelve, so an excerpt from the story. On the
second of March twenty twelve, Lawrence Anthony passed at the
age of sixty one from a heart attack. He was

(02:15:11):
due to give a speech at the Conservation Gala dinner
in Durban to raise awareness for the rhino poaching crisis
and to release his third book about his battle to
save the last four rhinos. Heartwarmingly and without any scientific explanation,
two separate elephant herds at the Tula Dula Game Reserve
left their grazing grounds and visited Anthony's house on the

(02:15:33):
day that he died. This is similar to how elephants
mourned the death of their own without any possible prior notice.
It was as if the elephants just knew it had
been three years since they visited. And it is also
estimated that the herds would have had to travel twelve
hours before reaching the destination. So the article goes into
a bit more detail, but these are the basics. I
found it fascinating because not only were the animals alerted

(02:15:55):
on their own without any human contact from miles away,
but they mourned a human. Their sense of self included
the human that helped save them, and their emotions were
possibly affected non local to the event. Wild Stuff hope
to meet you guys in person someday. Your longtime snake
bro Matt, Thank you dude, Thanks Matt, and yes.

Speaker 13 (02:16:16):
This.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
Story of the elephants it's like, it's like it reminds
me of like the reality is Ralph, the dog that
follows its family across half the planet, gets on boats,
you know, they lose the dog on a vacation and
then it has to find them by traveling thousands of
miles and stuff. The reality of Ralph is a quote

(02:16:38):
from a Stephen King book. He was mentioning this kind
of phenomenon. But the elephants coming to this guy, like,
how did the dog know to get on a boat?
How did the elephants know that this person died on
the day they show up having to walk twelve hours
from where they were to visit this guy's house on
the day that he died, they show up there, you know.

(02:17:02):
And they animals also seem to know when an earthquake
is coming, like way before yep. And now people have said, oh,
they're they're like somehow it's very handwavy, detecting the pea waves.
You know, no one knows right how they know thirty
minutes before will freak out. Yeah, but there's again we're like,
this is this supernatural or is this just part of

(02:17:23):
the universe. I think it's natural. Yeah, I agree with
your The supernatural is a is a you know, it's
a it's a it's a word to use to explain
shit we don't understand about the universe, right, So my
point is like again like this spiritual connection.

Speaker 7 (02:17:37):
With it, and they do associate you know, all animals
are associated with like you were saying earlier, the Native Americans,
you know, Yeah, but they associate elephants with long memories.

Speaker 5 (02:17:47):
I mean, that's I would say. I would say elephants
probably have their own individual maybe so dumb, but not.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
I'm with you.

Speaker 8 (02:17:57):
There's a lot of things about the way elephants.

Speaker 2 (02:17:59):
And whales as well, elephant's brain and whales are.

Speaker 5 (02:18:02):
Whales elephants brains and dolphins or these you know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
But I look on this kind of stuff the way
like if you if you try to explain the Wi
Fi and blue tooth and infrared ort for someone who
was born hundred years sega, they would like, you're crazy.
It's like natural stuff, Like what do you mean? Like
I can take a picture and just send it to
you why air here, and then I'm gonna brain.

Speaker 5 (02:18:33):
Like mess with this thing on my wrist and change something.

Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
It's like supernatural. But now we know that no it's doable.

Speaker 5 (02:18:40):
It's hidden fields moving around, and so I feel.

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
Like there was something there was not even something. It's
like a lot of the same way. We just don't
understand it. But it's actually very real, very physical, very scientific.
We just don't know about it yet.

Speaker 5 (02:18:54):
They called the Higgs bows and the God particle. That's
that's wrong. They need you know what I mean, Like
that was the God particle because it supposedly it was
the first field that ever existed, this particle. This is physics.
Where's the spirit particle? Where's the spirit field? Right? There
should be some field or some some thing where they're

(02:19:17):
like a field where resonances can be sent out through
some action, which is how the elephants knew the guy
died because suddenly the resonance changed in his direction and
they were like, oh, that was our buddy, Like we
knew he was alive the whole time, and as soon
as he died, his resonance stopped, and so we're going
to go see him. It's like there's just a hidden
field that no one has discovered, and we're we've been

(02:19:42):
desensitized to it, probably in a lot of ways, and
I think maybe I'm not trying to we have to
go here, like I don't want to. I don't want
to say we go here. Sometimes I don't want to
say that. Like ancient butt flap wearing, like hunter gatherer

(02:20:04):
cultures were better than modern civilization. I think modern civilization
is amazing. I think modern civilization, you know, people are people.
The quality of life is probably better in many ways,
but in some ways it's not. Some ways it's worse.
It's not just like a black and white like, oh,
it was so much better back then when we were

(02:20:24):
like almost dying. We're definitely old in our thirties, you know,
say goodbye to your kids when you're thirty four. Yeah, cyonara,
Like my teeth have all fallen out. I'm dying, you know. Okay,
it's not like the greatest thing in the world. But
in some ways perhaps they were more aware of certain things,

(02:20:48):
and I think some of the spirit aspect is one
of them. This is how they recognize. Yeah, some of
the skulls I've seen just really quickly in the museums,
the ancient skulls of ancient pe that have been found
in there, Like it's in the museum just to show you.
This is one of the ancient people's in this type
of burial and the Yeah, dude, their teeth, they have

(02:21:11):
these gigantic holes in their life, in their in their
gums and the jaw bone, because like the tooth obviously
developed an absess and then it just started eating way
up into the sinuses before they died. You're just like,
my god, how much sleep are you getting? Yeah? None.
So I'm not trying to say I do, but I

(02:21:31):
do think. So this is This is all I'm trying
to point out. I'm not trying to say, man, it
was so much greater back then, we were such better people.
That's not what I'm saying. But perhaps I think perhaps
we have lost some things. We've gained a lot, but
we have lost some things. Yeah, that's all I'm trying
to say.

Speaker 7 (02:21:52):
Yeah, that just made me think of have you ever
seen a baby's skull with all its teeth in before
they've come out?

Speaker 5 (02:21:58):
Look at that, Oh yeah, it's got all the extra teeth.

Speaker 8 (02:22:01):
Yeah. It was making me think, like, are those openings
not just where the teeth come out?

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
Yeah, it's wild. No, No, so you do check this out.
You want to talk about giants, Yeah, remember all the
stories about double dentition eight foot tall skeleton double dentician,
fully grown. No, no, it was a baby.

Speaker 8 (02:22:29):
It's just a big.

Speaker 5 (02:22:32):
Eight feetians just a baby, though, folks, old baby niff. Wow.
Why have you been hiding these snake.

Speaker 8 (02:22:43):
Factors until I was fighting on the show again?

Speaker 5 (02:22:48):
Fred Fred is brewing boo boo, baby skulls boo.

Speaker 8 (02:22:53):
I would like to say high to Chase. Chase is
in here?

Speaker 5 (02:22:57):
Sub Chase Chase.

Speaker 8 (02:23:01):
Seven Ryne seven Wren. You know, guys are really bad at.

Speaker 5 (02:23:04):
These, she said, We're not supposed to say seven rn,
but I can't remember what I think it's trend trend. Yeah,
of course, Tren.

Speaker 8 (02:23:12):
I'd watch your shoe like this every day, me too.

Speaker 5 (02:23:15):
Thank you. Okay, so we got to wrap this up here,
but I have one more. We'll finish off with an
email from Roddy the Mammal. Where's the fire? Where's the fire?
And this is this is actually a long one from Roddy.
I don't know if I can maintain the voice the

(02:23:36):
whole time here, Let's just let's just give us. Let's
get some Can we get some background music going on?
How do I do this? This is a classic Roddy,
except it's very long. He usually writes short ones, but
this is a pretty We'll just give Roddy some like
ominous music. Okay, good, do that.

Speaker 16 (02:23:58):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:23:59):
Wait, that's not Oh he can't do it. Oh I
can do it. Can't be done. I just picked the
wrong song. Anyways, we're gonna go with it, going with it.
I can't hear it. Okay, yeah, all right, So it's
called Maltese cart ruts solved. Question mark, question mark question
mark from Roddy the Mammal dear Afidian siblings. First and foremost,

(02:24:22):
a heartfelt congratulations and felicitations to Russ and Ealisa on
their engagement. It is most wondrous when one meets their soulmate,
and I wish you both blessings and happiness. Now, I
must extend my apologies for not having written these past
few months, as I've been tripping the multiverse as a
tourist Cosmo League, Cosmo Golk some French bullshit, he said

(02:24:45):
right there, exploring the odd, unique and sublime corners of
varied verses. They have returned Chocolate Block with sketchbooks filled
with surreal, fantasmic, whimsical, and just plain mediocre observations and
sketches of my travels. Interesting fact most universes, but all
are like our own electric I have been too. I

(02:25:06):
have been to quite a few that run on gasoline,
several that are steam powered and filled with gears, and
a few powered by galactic bicycle chains, and one verse
powered by a celestial gerbil running in an intelligent hamster wheel.
His name is Norman, the wheel that is. I'm not
sure what the gerbil calls himself, but I digress now.
Upon returning from my voyages, I naturally found myself in

(02:25:27):
arrears with regards to my brothers of the Serpent podcast episodes,
and settled down to a long enjoyable session of insightful
intelligence and serpentine sagacity. When, after listening to the last
few episodes regarding giants, the oulmex cart ruts, and megaliths,
the glimmer of an idea began to coagulate within the sinuous,
labyrinthine corridors of my endothermic cerebrum. I believe I have

(02:25:53):
solved the mystery of the Maltese cart ruts. Okay, so,
given the cult.

Speaker 18 (02:25:57):
Role, given the cultural, archaeological and world's biggest roadside attraction,
evidence of giants, the theory that a global maritime civilization
X existed in the prehistoric past.

Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
Similarities between architectural styles of the megalithic structures around the
world and legendary stories of a rock melting liquid, I
believe that these are all signs of a prehistoric international
construction company that worked around the globe building monolithic megalithic temples, walls, monuments, stoneheads,
and dolmens. And while building the temples of Malta, one

(02:26:31):
of the giants, probably the prehistoric CEO's brother in law,
dropped and broke several bottles of the stone softening liquid,
and in an attempt to clean up the mess, left
his fingerprints all over Malta in the softened stone. After
the Malta fiasco and being the CEO's brother in law,
instead of being fired, he was sent to Egypt to

(02:26:51):
work on the Temple of Hathor, where he once again
spilled a bottle of the stone softening liquid and ruined
a perfectly fine set of stairs said. He was later
transferred to North America to work in the company's lumber
department and is remembered today as Paul Bunyan, but that's
considered more of a fringe sort of tinfoil hat hypothesis
not worthy of examination. Currently, I'm still working on finding

(02:27:13):
the requisite evidence to bring this forward from hypothesis to theory,
and hope I can gain access to the Smithsonian Institute's
sub basements, where I've heard there are small cuneiform cuneiform
clay tablets which chronicle the above story in greater and
more elaborate detail. So now how do I gain such access?
It's better that you you just don't know, and as always,

(02:27:33):
thank you in advance, yours Roddy the Mammal.

Speaker 13 (02:27:36):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
Fantastic, rod.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
It's like a story.

Speaker 8 (02:27:44):
If you write a book, send it to me, I'll
read it.

Speaker 5 (02:27:46):
Oh, Roddy, we love you man. I'm sorry that it
took so long to read that email on the show.
Every one of your emails is fantastic. Yeah, I mean,
you know, we had we had so many characters. So
you guys write in again. Brothers of the Serpent at
gmail dot com. If anyone wants to write us a
new website, check out the new website. The email is

(02:28:08):
on there. Just go to brotherst Serpent dot com. The
website was built by my lovely wife still being worked
on a little bit. The store is not up yet,
but we will get that up soon.

Speaker 7 (02:28:17):
I wanted, I want if I could say one more thing,
going back to when we were saying thankful, I also
wanted to say, I'm so thankful to my Snake Rose
Kids team. I have an amazing team, and I love
the work that we've been doing. And thank you guys
for working with me.

Speaker 5 (02:28:34):
Yes, sweet Nike bros. Hey, I gave you guys a
shout out last time too. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:28:40):
Is there a label on how many times you're supposed
to do that?

Speaker 5 (02:28:43):
It's just smelling salts.

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
I'm fine, it's fine.

Speaker 5 (02:28:48):
Where's my where's my video? So show up? Like I said,
I will be going to Egypt. I do have a
show in the can they needed to publish that I
need to publish. I will get it out. I'll probably
have to schedule it to publish next week. I'm leaving
for Egypt in on Monday and I'll be gone till
the sixteenth.

Speaker 9 (02:29:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:29:10):
I will live stream from Egypt and post some shorts
and everything, and maybe calin I will if I can
find time, we can connect and do a long distance
episode of some kind. That'd be cool. We'll see you
know how it is the happy thanks you know, long distance.
I'm looking at the plea long distance. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Yeah, Thanksgiving. Yeah,

(02:29:34):
we always have, always well, getting out of damu.

Speaker 2 (02:29:37):
Get back to work. Yes, there's no work tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (02:29:46):
If you're if you're American, if you're British or whatever,
get back get back to work clearless. Chris ten Bucks,

(02:30:42):
thank you for the Snake family and community making this
awesome trip through life. Snakes, thank you very much. We
all dismissed that, but Laura told us we got to
say it, so thank you very much. I love sharing everybody.

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