Michelle Desrochers: Ron Morehead and his Lifelong Bigfoot Research - Paranormal Heart

Paranormal Heart Welcomes Back Michelle Desrochers

EP: 56 Topic : Michelle steps in for Ron who couldn't make it!My apologies my Haunted Hearts. Looks like there was a mix up with time zones. I will be rescheduling Ron Morehead for another date. So stay tuned!

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 5 (01:01):
Hello, my haunted hearts. Welcome to Paranormal Heart Podcasts Paranormal
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you find your favorite podcast. Before we start, I would

(01:22):
like to give a special huge shout out to Sabin
Bleh of Eastern Canada Sasquatch Organization and all their members.
Sabin is also the organizer of the second annual Gatineau,
Ottawa Sasquatch Conference that will be held August fifteenth and
sixteenth of twenty twenty six. Tickets will soon be available
in event bright and if you're interested in attending next year,

(01:44):
reach out to me and I'll guide you to where
you can go to get more information, find out about
the ticket prices and everything. So keep checking because there
is a limited amount of tickets, and I'll be there.
I'm gonna have a little table promoting the show, so I.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Hope to see you all there.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
So I was originally supposed to have Ron Moorehead on tonight.
I don't know what happened to the gentleman, so I
hope he he's okay. I hope he didn't forget the
time because I always confirm the time zones in my
time and then my guest time. So in the meantime,

(02:20):
Michelle d' roche is so gracious to sit in for
mister Ron Moorehead. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
I can do a wrong impersonation, but I think I'll
fail miserably.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Oh, thank you for stepping in. And if he happens
to show up, we'll just throw him in there so.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
I'll pop out he pops in, Yeah, we'll do some
comic relief till he gets here.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Start dancing.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Sure we could do that.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh, I know, I've been and a whole bunch of
other the members from this Eastern Sasquatch group, they're all
looking forward to seeing Ron on here again. Sabin was
so kind to be able to post about him being
on tonight and everything.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
So he's a great guy. He's a great guy, one
of the best out there. You know. He's just so
kind and so knowledgeable.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
He's such a sweetheart.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
And I'm not gonna call anybody out, but it's not myself,
but there is someone on the network who has a
super huge crush on him, and I can really understand
why because he's such a sweet man.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yes, that was brought up recently by said individual actually
the air. No, she just messaged it in passing just
so yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I can't I can't remember the actual actual words she used.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
But yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Okay, now I know Kevin's real name.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Yes, sorry flop running around.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
You called him out, so in case you missed it, Kevin,
I don't know what happened with mister moorehead. Michelle's gracious
enough to be able to step in and We're just
going to wait a couple of minutes to see who's
going to be popping into the chat.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
If you don't mind, Michelle, I don't mind.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
People just aren't used to seeing here in live mode
and room tonight.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Well that's why whenever I do go live, I put
a little video together and I posted all over social media.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Paranormal Heart live event be there.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Their fun live shows are great. So you know, we
had a great live show today actually with Mark Allie
and talking about the ancient belief system of which is
connections to the devil wives tales, passing that stuff around.

(05:00):
That's going to be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was.
It was good. It was really good. It did really
well and we had a great, great interaction, So that
was good.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
That's yes, that is your real name, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
So I also want to mention that my eighth anniversary
episode is coming up at the end of November, but
I'm doing a live segment. It'll be on December second,
and it's with a Squatch father himself, Al Santa Riga.
So that's going to be a great one. It's going
to help me celebrate my eight years of having a

(05:37):
having my show out there.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
I can't believe it. Hello Heidi again, Yep she pops
in everywhere, Yep she does.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Well. Yeah, and yes, Heidi, you probably noticed that you
don't have to get your eyes checked.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
This is not Ron, this is actually Michelle.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I hope you can catch it to Kevin. That'll be awesome.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah here, yeah, hope and hope and so but hey,
tis the season, right, so everybody's everybody's uh busy. Everybody's
got a lot of media this time. Anybody within the
various fields, you know, high strangeness tends to be really
busy this time of year. So that's that I was wondering. Yeah, yeah,

(06:33):
I know, I know I was saying. You know, I
could try to put on my best ron impersonation, but
my voice isn't deep enough. And you know, I know
he just can't be wrong. There's only one wrong, so true. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I remember when I first had him on.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I was so nervous because I remember reaching out to
you and asking. I said, I've wanted to have him
on my show, but I've been really a shy to
invite him, and I keep trying to remember what John, John, Hi, John,
you must be thinking of me, Jim Mallard of The
Mallard Report. He doesn't have to show anymore, but he
told me a long time ago, if you don't ask,
you'll never know, and all they can do is say

(07:13):
no or just not reply. So I finally got brave
enough and asked you, and I was so nervous, and.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
He is very gracious. He's very very gracious. Most guests are.
You know, I've been fortunate. I mean we're like, you know,
I think which episode am I at? I am getting
into episode tomorrow night will be episode six three one wow,

(07:40):
six hundred and thirty one. Yeah, So see out that time.
You know, in all these years, give you muster up
the courage and you just do it and you reach
out to people. And I've just encountered so many incredible
people always say happy and gracious with their time and
their research. And you know it, just like you said,

(08:01):
if you if you don't put yourself out there, you
miss out on some really good people.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
And I've been fortunate enough to have such wonderful people
that I've met through the podcast. I mean, I think
probably ninety seven eight percent of the time my guest
and I will keep that rapport going for years. You know,
you have the odd guests that you don't chat ever
again for whatever reason, but for the majority of them,

(08:27):
it's just amazing.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Mm hm No, it's true. You end up making some
lifelong friends. And and you know, speaking of Ron, okay too,
coming at you guys, Okay, so Ron and uh, let's
let's just say there's a new show coming on now

(08:51):
on you PRN and Darryl Denton and Ron moorehead.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Oh, that's going to be amazing. Heard it here, you
heard it?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Yeah, I just broke it right here. I just broke
it right here first time. So yes, yes, it's in
the works. And we're looking at Monday night, ten pm
Eastern for an hour.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
That'll be so amazing.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
It's going to be slow start and then we're going
to build up to the full month. So I like
these guys that much. And they're very very very good friends.
They're the best of friends, and they do a lot
of research together. And if anybody caught any of Ron's
shows on the realm, the archives are there. But with
Darryl Denton last Thursday night on Land between the Lakes

(09:38):
with Bigfoot and dog Man, Oh that is I've researched it.
People ask for it, and we just went ahead and
I just you know how the universe has this way
of just gifting you with things, and had all these
people saying, you know, we need to talk about Land
between the Lakes. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done it,
and I don't give it any justice, you know, no

(09:59):
su Errol's face pops up and it's just like right
there in his backyard. I'm just like, youre my guy.
And then I find out Ron moorehead best friends.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
No way.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah, so it worked out really really well, and you know,
so then we just got talking and he had a
really good time on the show, and you know, he said, no,
he goes, I'd like to do this with you. I'm like, great,
thank you. Yeah, I can't say thank you enough. So
it will be it will be really good because you're
looking at a combined experience of decades between them. It's

(10:35):
just just incredible stuff. And everybody body who follows Moran
will of course you like. I found him from watching
Alaska Killer Bigfoot and I'm thinking this is incredible. Then
he comes on with his amazing research from his book
Quantum Bigfoot and opened up a whole other level, you know,
in my opinion, for whatever's worth, but a whole other

(10:57):
level of bigfoot research and just a big with other
you know, other cryptids again, dog Man being another one,
and Daryl talked about some of the experiences that they
had in a dog Man encounter, which was sort of
that infrasound thing going on, and it was it was
mind blowing, but it was just like, so that is

(11:17):
pretty much what opened me up to the whole, you know,
quantum side of cryptozoology. And when I reached out to Ron,
he was just, yeah, I'd love to do it. And
he's he's very well known for the Sierra Sounds. You know,
you guys should just go go onto YouTube and Google
up the Sierra Sounds and do a search on that

(11:39):
fantastic stuff. So between the two of them, the experiences
that these gentlemen have had, it's just they're going to
have so much to share with everybody. And I'm just
glad it's going to be on UPRN and I'm glad
they're going to become part of the UPR and family
right way, I belong.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Amazing.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know, Kat, I don't know
here we are.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
So I had some questions geared for for Ron, but uh.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Let's see if there's some that I can maybe ask you.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I'll do my best. So Ron tell me, yes, kat
So tell me the.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
First time you heard the Sierra Sounds, what were your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
That was incredible? I thought it was incredible, Like there's
there's I don't think people understand. And I'm not a
crypted researcher. I'm just sort of in the last few
years of having this show, dip my toe in many
different fields and realize very quickly how connected everything was
really was. And I think we've had, you know, for

(13:02):
us as as novices, you know me, people who do
this all the time with Bigfoot or other cryptos are
very well aware of the different you know, capabilities that
they have and the strengths and the behaviors, et cetera.
But you know, those of us who didn't know much
about it, I thought you just think that, you know,
go into the woods, these things, you know, they smell
and they just you know, behave a certain way, and

(13:25):
you know, tree tree knack and things like that. But
you start realizing much of what I learned when I
talked to Daryl last week is the intelligence behind it
and how some of them will communicate and that and
that that's that's verbally, like they'll make these incredible sounds.
Some of them can speak, you know. And and he

(13:48):
told me, Daryl told me this story about his his
his grandfather, I believe it was father's grandfather, when in
the winter Bigfoot come out and just pluck out, you know,
a couple of chickens. They didn't take all the chickens,
you know, on the farm. They would just take a
couple and they would come in and trade stuff that

(14:10):
they had, like stones, you know, really pretty stones and
sticks and things like that. Like they were very well
aware of the commerce, the side of things, like you know,
the bartering. I thought, this is brilliant. It's brilliant.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
I had Thomas Seward on the show before. I don't
know if you know who he is.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
He's Canadian, Yeah, he's He's actually on Don't Whistle at
Night This coming Sunday night, oh nine pm.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Eastern, Don and Darren Yazy. They have a great show. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
I was telling Don about Thomas, but I think you
already knew about him before. But when he was on
the show, I actually asked him. I think it was
him that I had asked. I said, you go out
in the woods and you do the wood knocks and
you hear them, how do you how do you know?
Because and I wasn't trying to disrespect the field, I

(15:00):
generally want to know, I said, how do you know
it's actually a bigfoot replying and not another person going hey,
you know? So it's two humans doing the wood knocks
thinking they're communicating with a bigfoot or you hear that they.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Think that they're communicating with it.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, And he said there is definitely a difference
whenever the bigfoot does the wood KNOCKX. You can just
there's there's a pitch, a tone that's so much different
than what a human can do because.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
They're so much stronger. And he said they usually.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Use rocks from from his experiences out in western western Canada.
So I thought that was really interesting.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Yeah, that's interesting for sure. This is fascinating to me.
It just makes you realize that there are so many
other different levels of intelligence with different beings on good
old planet Earth. Yep, not just about us US so
dysfunctional humans, some of some of these other beings together,

(16:03):
we just don't give them the credit for it.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
So Another question I had asked was, Okay, people are
leaving out apples and food and then go back and
it's gone, and then like bigfoot took it. And again
I didn't mean into disrespect. I generally want to know.
I said, how do we know another animal didn't take it?
And he's like, well when it's twenty feet high up
in a tree, and I'm like, okay, fair.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Enough, I'll give it to you. Yeah. Yes, that comes
up quite a bit. You know, there's a lot of stories.
I think there was a family in the US and
they had a family a bigfoot around and they would
leave out apples and things like that, and they witnessed
them taking the apples and the fruit and whatever they

(16:45):
left out, and over time, as the I think they
believed that it was a male, over time it would
come back with the family. Yeah, and they would all
sit there in the back once they realized it was
a safe place to And I thought, this is just again,
it's just amazing to me that you know, they allow
themselves to be that close, you know, to to humans,

(17:10):
because I'm sure there's not always great experiences with them,
you know, so that's incredible.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
I also, I know this is supposed to be about Ron.
But again, Thomas, he was such a great guest and
so knowledgeable. He uh, hi, Michelle, I.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Lost my train of thought. Oh what was I gonna?

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
I asked him what did he think Bigfoot was? And
he says he finds he describes them as another tribe.
They're people because they have the bartering system, you know,
they're very intelligent. So I thought that was really really interesting.
And he says whenever he encounters one in the forest,
he'll just say hello, brother, I mean, you know, harm

(17:56):
and he'll use his native tongue to say a few
words as well. And the bigfoot that he saw seems
to understand and then they go their separate ways and
everything's fine.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
There's so many theories with that, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
So Kevin says, I never heard them, but seen a
group of three growing I almost say growling, growing up
in Glencoe, which is all trees and mountains, and it
was in the eighties, so we in chent what's that word,
ch oh okay and chalantly, I know I didn't pronounce
that right, walk the woods, heard branches cracking and caught glimpses.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, there were running between trees and we could see
translucent looking hairy bigfoots that looked see through as they moved.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Then it went silent and vanished and we left.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Wow, that's the theory. You know, it's believed that that.
I mean, there is a belief amongst some researchers, like
if you're getting into a quantum thing that they use
portals to travel in and out of. There are some
people who believe that even animals do. It's it's not
exclusive to to cryptids, you know, but I mean you
have to wonder and ask yourself, Like, you know, you're

(19:11):
running through the woods and you're chasing after one, let's say,
cause you catch a glimpse of one all of a sudden,
like the footsteps stop at a certain print, no more,
the prints are here done, and then they're just gone.
And Don says, yeah, you just do a perimeter, I
just backtrack it.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
But if you find nothing, then you look in the
trees and you find nothing. I mean, yeah, you know,
you know, I guess if you're using infrared and things
like that at night, it would be easy with thermal
cameras and things.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Like that, where would have continued during the.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Day, you know. So I don't know. Again, I think
it's it's it's an interesting theory that sirih applies to
a lot of different cryptids, you know, like I don't
think anybody really stops to think. Again, being from a
layman point of view, you know, the lockness monster. They've
never found really any hints of it there, but they

(20:03):
seem to see there seems to be quite a few sightings,
and there is a belief. They say, this system, this
specific law cannot handle anything that big to get in
and out, you know, waterways, that sort of thing. There's
no cave that they're aware of, So I don't know
portal and out. It's just I don't know's it's. It's fascinating.

(20:24):
It's fascinating. So it's a wonderful, highly strange world we
live in.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
It is, and I find the more questions you ask
just leads to more questions.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
That's true. But that's half the fun.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's frustrating, but it's yeah, it's.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Half the fun. If you get all the answers, then
what what do you do?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
There's nothing left to look into.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
I guess you could keep looking, but I mean, I
love the mystery behind all of it. Yeah, you know,
it's just it's just it's just it's I guess it's
like a child, you know, it's having that wonderment of God.
It's awesome, you know, yes, yeah, magical and mystical. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
There's some people too that believe that uh Sasquatch have
this ability. They're not born with it. They have to
learn how to do it where they can just teleport.
So that's why if you happen to see families and
they're not disappearing, is because they don't want to leave
the kids there because they haven't learned how to how
to teleport yet. And I found that was a very

(21:31):
very interesting look at at this mysterious creature.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well it is, I guess it makes you wonder. I mean,
there have been remote viewers that have seen you know,
portals and such not far from where they've had different cryptids.
They're just gone, yes.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Like.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
That was cool, you know, But yeah, there are there
are that's been reported by by different remote viewers. In fact,
I think I'll aska Killer Brick Book brought on a
remote viewer too. It's really interesting. The one thing about
that show that I really I like a few things
about that show Uh, some people not so much. Others.
All about it is that they explored different avenues of

(22:14):
trying to figure it all out, you know, with remote
viewers and the whole quantum thing with Ron. You know,
it was it was really really interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
I told my family that I want to get for
a couple of years that I've been wanting that book
for Christmas and I still haven't gotten it.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Oh really yeah, it's just like he's got two books
out now, so you may just big gown everybody.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Well, I still have to finish. I still have to
start Wayne's second book that I have. I mean, I've
been so fortunate to know a lot of people who
have written books, and I always say, how do I
purchase a copy? And an autograph copy? So I have
I'm starting to have this real like a nice collection
of autograph books.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
So yeah, yeah, but I like a book like this, yes, yeah,
just touching it.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
And then New Brunswick there was a couple of used
bookstores and they had cats in there, and and to me,
having a cat in a library or or you know,
just a bookstore, it just feels so much better when
you walk in. And I remember in Fredderton when I
first walked into this one used bookstore. Is it the

(23:27):
attic Owl or is that the one in Moncton anyways, Uh,
all of a sudden, this cat comes running from the
back of the store to the front, comes over and
greets us, and I'm just like, oh hello, and the
person working is just dumbfounded.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'm like, what's wrong?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
And so that cat hates everybody, and all of a sudden,
it just you know, and every time we went there,
we'd do the same thing and follow us around and
it's like, oh, apparently it doesn't get everybody.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Now, I guess not. I love it. It feels like you're
you know, you're you're in an old library with with
a familiar Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Well, in and or Marktonier Brunswick, the library there, they
used to have a cat and I absolutely loved it,
in a resident cat. They had a note that if
you have allergies, be worn that there's a resident cat here.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
But yeah, yeah, it's kind of neat.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
So Heidi says, thoughts on is that is that how
theory on Bigfoot and the Naki? I've never heard of
Bashar I.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Have heard of I am familiar with his theory. But
if it's a connection to the Onnaki. I mean you're
getting into you know, you're getting into like the whole
race of of is it a race of giants things?
I mean, they vary in size. There's all kinds of
in North America, and there's some of them all over

(24:44):
the world. Really you go to you know, like Kandahar
giant is probably the most recent. But when you're getting
into places, I'm just trying to think of the place
in Italy, I'm just drawing a blank because I'm completely unprepared.

(25:04):
But they the giants have been known to be as
high as between fifteen and twenty feet tall. Yeah, you know, Sardinia,
so they're they're you know, they're growing big over there.
But you know that's just you know, I don't really know.
With Ananachi, I don't know like how how the connections were.

(25:25):
I mean, they have big Reptilian connections as well. You
get into the ancient you know, Samerians, and you see
a lot of you know, statues and things like that
that are very Reptilian based. But I've never heard of
Bigfoot per se aside from the scale and size, Like

(25:46):
I just I'm not familiar. Taking a guess, where.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Did that go oh, Kevin says, I intuitively believed two
or female females were about six foot tall in the middle.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Wow, eight feet tall?

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah, very possible. Yeah, oh DNA altered. Yeah, I mean
I do tend to think that it's possible because the
Annunaki allegedly, you know, did interfere with humanity at the time.
I mean, if you start thinking missing link, that would

(26:22):
be a good place to start. I mean, you know,
they believe the grays and the reptilians had their hand
in that also, So there's there's a lot. You know,
you look into that negative blood type. It would be
so curious to me to see what what kind of
blood type? You know, everybody assumes that they would be
positive because of you know, the Recis monkey chain, but

(26:44):
I would be very curious to see if it was
something else entirely.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
It's so incredible too, because they say that the negative
blood type is so.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
What's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
There's not a lot, but yet, I know, well, you
got to think of how many people are in the
world too. Sure, so many people that I know are negative.
It's just it's just amazing.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well, you're you're looking you know, at one time, Like
when my parents met, they were both negative blood types,
and so were their parents. You were looking at about
three percent of the world, So I'm aging myself a bit.
Now they're saying it could be anywhere between thirteen and
fifteen percent maybe, and that might be high. I may be,
you know, overstepping that up a little bit. But when

(27:26):
you're looking at that percentage on you know, eight billion people,
you're gonna have a lot more odds. Yeah, for sure. Yeah,
I'm also like a negative blood type.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Oh my my mom.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
She's from a family of thirteen and I recently found
out that all her siblings are either positive or own negative.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
It's just like what it's because then the oas can blend,
you know, So that's that's not surprising at all. But yeah,
so yeah, our whole family is just negative.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
So Michelle says there was an Aboriginal tribe who lived
near Uluru, if that's how it's pronounced, who had similar
name to Ananaki. That's interesting. Yeah, let's see. Nope, she's
a negative yes, yes, oh yeah, Heidi. One of the

(28:23):
first rabbit holes I went in was on the Ananaki
opened my mind mind blown. Bashar speaks of the Ananaki
altering our DNA and Bigfoot was a result. Please don't
quote me. I have heard of that, but I didn't
know the name behind it.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
They they, well, yeah, I mean if Bigfoot was the result,
that's possible. But I mean, right now, there's a whole
pile of us that have a blood type that I
don't think was even around thirty thousand years ago. Yeah, apparently.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Just crazy.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
For those of you just tuning in to the live
episode here, I don't know what happened to mister Morehead,
but Michelle was gracious enough to sit in for him.
I don't know if he got the time zones mixed
up or or what it was, but I will be
making another.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'll have him on.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Message. You must say we're doing a pre record.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, well I had message. Well, I asked him
in first, you might do you mind if it's going
to be live or do you prefer pre record? He goes,
it doesn't matter. I'm like, okay, so let's still live.
But oh well, yeah, I understand. Uh, life gets in
the way sometimes you forget or I just hope he's okay.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, I hope so too.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
A fit girl question leads to more questions than those
questions even yeah, yep, and leads to the rabbit hole
stack or a friend of mine, Cisco Murdoch. She calls
it the paranormal onion because you just keep peeling back
layers and layers.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
And yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Who else is here?

Speaker 6 (30:05):
That girl?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Kevin Heidi. I don't want to miss anybody. I think
I think I got them mm hmmm yeah, just going
back here, mm hmm. It's so funny.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
So many familiar faces.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's what I love about the network too. You go
into chats when they're live and you see familiar names
and faces.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Everybody supports us.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yes, fantastic, Yeah, so thank you. You guys are amazing.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Uh yeah, and I can't wait for Ron And what's
the other guy's name that's going to be on the
network now?

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Run more Head? Yes, run more Head along with Gerald Denton.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Okay together, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's going to be great.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Yep. I've I've already got the whole the show name,
everything's been sent to me. Everything is, it's going to be.
It's going to be really good. We're just waiting to
nail down some dates. Could be as early as November, so.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well look when I first started, when I did my
first episode with al Santa Riga and it was supposed
to be pre recorded, I had a whole bunch of
shenanigans go on.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
My car broke down.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I was like, oh my, so I wasn't gonna make
it in time to do the pre record. And then
you had mentioned, well, how about you can always do live?
And I've always been terrified to do live and video
and here I am, so I asked, Alice said, you know,
because I have a cell number two. So I was
texting him and I'm just like, oh, I'm so sorry,
I'm gonna be late.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Can you do live? He goes, yeah, sure, no problem, kad.
I'm like, okay, I'll send you the link as soon
as I can.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
So easy.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
And we didn't even have a date at the time,
yet You're just like, how about this Tuesday. And I'm
just like, oh, okay, okay, no pressure, no pressure, as
I'm out business.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah, we'll get on it. Jumped in. That's right, jump in.
Both have some fun and it was a great time.
I mean, I think I love the live shows more
than anything for myself personally, because I love all the
interaction with the chat room, you know, I mean we
have you know, we started out doing open discussions like

(32:22):
open mic, and we started out like maybe once a month.
The demand for it and requests for it became so
big we were just like millionaire, like what talck right,
and so we started it was actually every once every
three months or every four months quarterly because we had
so many guests, and we started doing it once a month,

(32:44):
and we still do it once a month, Like you know,
Wayne will come on and he's always my my, my
guest co host. And for October we were having three.
We've done two already and on October thirtieth will be
another open like slash open discussion, and I haven't chosen
the topic yet. So those listening who do frequent our

(33:06):
chat room, there's another one coming. It's all good stuff coming.
So pop up the end of the end of the
Spooky Month with a spooky episode.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Spooky spooky.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah boom Boo is in spooky, not boo, one of
those Yeah, it's spooky boo.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
That's right, spooky boo.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
So let me ask you when it comes to Ron
Moore ahead, do you think he's very different compared to
other bigfoot researchers or are other researchers starting to kind
of see what he means about the quantum Bigfoot and
they're trying to research that as well.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
I think with Ron and many many researchers, I think
they're starting to explore all kinds of different things. You
have some researchers who are very much of the like
minded as a primatologist would be. It's just like, no,
this is a primate. You know, we're we're going to
research it as a primate or an ancient, you know,

(34:15):
being this primate. Then we get those who explore the
fact that, you know, it's something different. Some people think
are they extraterrestrial? There have been whistleblowers that have come
forward and claimed that these guys have been seen in
an underground bases doing work and things like that. But

(34:37):
we know that military have taken them, you know, all
kinds of cryptis like dog Man. You know, they've taken
land between the lakes. They've been seen taken up by military,
and we've seen we know that military has taken Bigfoot.
There's been many sightings of that. So I think, you know,
there's that theory. There's a theory that they use portals.

(34:59):
I think Ron was very much ahead of himself, like
for groundbreaking with the quantum thing. To my knowledge, one
of the first people actually has written a couple of
books on it. And people seem to think, you know what,
there's something to this, And the infrasound thing is very
interesting because you have all these people who report, you know,

(35:23):
how they're feeling and feeling sick after they've been in
contact with one and not feeling right and just feeling
off and headaches and so, I don't know, you know,
I think people it's like the paranormal It's just like eupology.
There's people who have many different opinions, and I think
it's good to approach the research with many different opinions,

(35:46):
many different perspectives, because nobody knows for sure, yeap, and
you may never know for sure.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, It's just amazing how there's so many different theories
on what big Foot is. I mean, I've heard some
people say that they are extraterrestrials and a craft crashed
I don't know how long ago, hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of years ago, and the ones who survived are

(36:16):
the ones that are they still have intelligence, but they're
not as intelligent as the ones that still come from
other planets. So that was really an interesting take as well.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
I just got thinking, like Chewbacca big yeah, yeah, you know,
this is like, like, we don't know what I find interesting.
And this is what my guests and I were talking
about a little bit today, just on a different topic.
Matter was things that are hidden in plain sight. You know,
you look at Chewbacca for Star Wars, right, and then

(36:48):
he's driving his ship. He's an eat of the sort, right,
You're kind of like, then you see a big what
you kind of like, I saw what you did there?
Is it one of those things?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:02):
No, no, we don't know you.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I also heard about the dog Man. I was talking
with an American soldier. I was supposed to have him
on the show. I'm not going to mention his name.
We just haven't connected together so we can figure out
a date to have him on. But he said he
was saying that over in Afghanistan there would be all

(37:29):
of a sudden, this bright, bright, electric blue flash and
there's Anubis looking creature standing there in armor, and they're
all just like what is going on?

Speaker 6 (37:42):
And that and he you we're in the desert.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah right.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
He said that the American government allegedly got a hold
of them, brought them back to the States to research them,
of course, and then a bunch of them got loose
and they're still hunting them to get them back to
the to the labs. But apparently from what he said,
that American government's not won't be having the labs for

(38:14):
these creatures on US soil anymore. They'll do it South
America someplace because they don't want these creatures more creatures
running around on the US soil. But I again allegedly,
I still thought that was really it's interesting to me.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
But if they if you see a big blue light
and you just see something materialize, it almost gives me
the sense that they're coming through like some kind of
a portal or the or they're just being They're just
able to teleport from one dimension to another. They can
do that anywhere they want. They're not bound to just
be physically on the soil here. They can sort of

(38:52):
pop up anywhere they want. But it is interesting. There
have been a lot of over the years. It's not
the first time I've heard, uh the Innubis story. In fact,
like when I researched a dog man. I found a
whole pole of stuff going back to Anubis. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
I mean, if you look at what because I've never
encountered one, thankfully, I kind of do, but from a
safe distance just because I'm curious. But uh, when you
you put together what the description is like, it sounds
like Anubis.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Mm hmm. Well yeah, well Anubis as a whole, you know,
that's the whole phenomena. And you have dog Man and
you have lou Geu, like you look at different body
structures all together. But there's a belief that maybe some
of these dog Man have this like DNA coded memory
of like because of Nubis, they were guardians you know,

(39:47):
underworld and gateways and and places of the dead. And
you have dog Man who seems to surf us up
in cemeteries places of the dead. There's there's this theory
by you know, by people. It's like, do they have
this ingrained DNA memory which is why they show up
at these places like their guardians? Like is there some

(40:09):
kind of a connection. There's a whole unbelievable amount of
information based on that. And when I found it was
kind of like, see, you know how my brain works.
I'm looking at going, ah, see something there.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I knew it.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
I know, so I don't know, you know, I like
just bending my mind a little bit and looking at
things that are a bit obscure. But I have to
say a lot of it made sense.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
So sometimes when I'm watching your shows, my brain hurts
afterwards just because of all of the information. It's just
like mind blown and just like.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Ok am, I poor brain. It's living in that moment
just whoa.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
You know, I've never gone up to Wayne and say, Wayne,
I just thought of something.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Yes, all the time he does the same thing. He goes,
you know, you're sitting at the breakfast table and say
do you ever think that? Blah blah blah blah blah
b oh. Then then the conversation starts right there blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then it's just
a cess precedence for for everything else. So you know,
say we should talk about this on open mic. I'm

(41:19):
like yeah, yeah, okay, and then I have to research
it more and it's just then then that's the creation
ultimately that you that you see, and even then we
run out of time. So I don't. I don't even
say it all.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, well you guys can go on
and on and on with any topic really that I've seen.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
You solid there for everybody to everybody to find. I
always try to. I have books upon books upon books
and old magazines and all kinds of things that I
dropped my research from. But I always try to lean
on things that is online so people could pick up
where I left off, or if it's something that really interesting.

(41:58):
That's what the Great Zone Show is all about. An
issue in Joe and I did it during Lockdown. It
was because everything was closed, even libraries, so we I
gave sources and we'd show photos and it was always about,
you know, producing something that people could go do the
research on their own after the fact. And I would
get so many incredible emails. Thank God, never even thought

(42:20):
about this, Thanks for putting us on this track. We
have found so much more on our own. And that's
what I've always tried to base with the shows, even
with people coming on board, you know, just guests and
coming up, and so many people just draw from that
and they go and they will do their own research.
And I always say, even an open mic, go do
your own researchers or I found this or here's or

(42:42):
I found that.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yeah, so well, I find a lot of times live shows,
not just with the host and the guests, but people
in the chat you're kind of doing a brainstorming thing
because the chat is amazing. They'll come up with some things,
you know, when I'm watching your show and it's like
how how like that's some heavy people.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
We have great chat rooms now. Sometimes there's a whole
conversation going out with the chat, and sometimes lose myself
because I'm watching what everybody's talking about, Like wait a minute.
You know, we all the guests, we all get lost
sometimes in the chat. But that's part of open mic,
open discussion, is you know, we make it a lot
more about the chat as well. We try to really

(43:26):
involve everybody and have this one big old open discussion.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
And for the most part, the majority of people are
so respectful of everybody. Everyone to know, while you get.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
I don't have it any other way. I've I've had
some salty people that I've had to We're pretty tolerant,
you know, we let a lot go. But if it
gets belligerent, like I always say, you know, when people
are disrespecting the guests are disrespecting me, and they're disrespecting
the people in chat, and there's no place for something
like that. So that's why I think our chat rooms
are always just so amazing because people get along, you know,

(44:03):
they crisscross the different shows and they they continue on communicating,
they get to know each other. And I always say, oh,
here's my chat family, and everybody comes in and everybody's hey,
how are you, and everybody interacts and it's it's very
very friendly. And when somebody knew comes in, they welcome
them right away and make people feel at home. I
don't need moderators or anything like that, because I just

(44:27):
I guys, I have a great chat room.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I've noticed that, Yeah, they'll call someone out, hey did
you because a lot of times I thought there was
one time in particular, the chat was talking about something
that somebody said and you didn't even know, and you
happen to look down and you're like, oh yeah, so
you know, people like you need to leave?

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Oh well they ever like I just pop them out.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, Michelle, yeah's you.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Very nice too.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Funny.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
So when you first heard of Ron moorehead, did you
have any opinions about him right from the get go.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Did you have some research?

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, I didn't do any research.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Do not have opinions?

Speaker 6 (45:10):
No, No, I saw him on on Alaska, killed her Bigfoot.
I watched him, I listened to him. At that point,
I saw, you know, the book, I saw like the topic.
I went in, I found him. I read the back
of the book, and I went, I want this guy.
So I reached out to him and brought him on.

(45:31):
And uh, I mean he's been on twice once for
both books, and he and Daryl will be back in
January together.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, as a guest.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
I was going to Girl as guests.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Okay, nice, you know that's gonna.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
Go freaking amazing. So that would be good.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yes, yes, that right, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Y.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
Yeah so yeah, so No, I knew instantly. You know.
One thing I've learned is to have a pretty good
feel for people and get a feel for what will work.
I know what like my listeners and viewers enjoy. Because
we've had a lot of years together, you know, I

(46:19):
mean I've had people follow me for two decades of
doing the show. We started syndicating here to your PRN
before we actually went full time, and I've learned what
they like, and people will say, can we do something
like this? Can we do something like this? So when
I brought on quantum Bigfoot and they're like Bigfoot with

(46:41):
a twist. And Ron was just so knowledgeable, so gracious
with his time, so kind, people instantly gravitated to him
out of earth, oh yeah, gracious with answering questions, and
and you can see when he talked about the Sierra
Sounds especially, there was so much passion and he just said, God,

(47:02):
because I just I love that place. You know, we
still love going to that place. And it's just you
can just tell when someone is just very genuine and
you can see he had this great empathy as well
as this of a really healthy curiosity for these beings,
which was just amazing. It wasn't a typical you know,

(47:24):
nothing like it's a primate or it's this, or it's that.
I just love his perspective on all of it. And
sometimes you just there's just people like that that you
just instantly know that they're onto something.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
And he's worked with linguists too to figure out if
they can find some structure or whatever to the sounds,
to see if they can figure out what they're actually saying.
Can you imagine if some some linguist actually decodes, or
not decode, just learns how to speak Sasquatch.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Yeah, but you know they can speak English, yes, but.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
It would be cool to speak Sasquat.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
I want to learn how to speak Sasquat. I know
there is a team in Canada, and I think I
think something tells me Manitoba, but I don't know. They
had all these recordings. I mean, could be on tariff
all I know. I mean, my memory is not the
best at times, but you're not wrong.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I'm only two years behind you, so I'm right with
your sister.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Oh god, but you know, hey, you know it was
just seasoned. That's always seasoned. But they showed tons of
videos of them communicating with a bigfoot. And the guy
would introduce himself and he say Mike, and he kept
saying Mike, Mike, and and then you would hear this
crazy voice going on like this crazy thing, but it

(48:51):
was English. Over time, he had a series of videos
and he was able to get them to say more
things just by being repetitious and this bigfoot, I mean
eventually there were others that came, but you know, he
built a relationship and a rapport over the course of
a year or two and ended up with a bit

(49:12):
of a dialogue. So can most certainly be done. Yeah,
but I would pay to see you talk Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Would How much would you pay, Michelle?

Speaker 6 (49:24):
I don't know how much? Do you know? Can you
amuse me for an hour or.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Probably five minutes?

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Yeah? So yeah, So, you know, I believe there's you know,
just in the whole bartering system, just everything. I think
there's just a lot more to these guys than we know.
You know, there's there's just I just think there's a
really high degree of intelligence in there.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Yeah, it's to me, it's just so fascinating. Like even crows.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
If you're like crows, always remember if you're nice or
bad to them, and if you're a nice they'll bring
you things.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
You know, and they can speak those ravens, Minu birds.
Minu birds one of the best talking birds in the world.
They can speak English. They're incredible mimics.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
And I you know, I know birds. I've had parrots,
you do, Yeah, I used to rescue them and I've
had all kinds of parrots. So you know, there's it's
just these birds are phenomenal. It's where I've heard a
robin talk.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Did you really? I didn't think they have that ability.
Maybe it wasn't really a robin.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
Sat with my own eyes. I don't know, shape shifted.
I could be a shape shifting little baby robin. I
don't know. It's little nest makes plucked all of its feathers.
Office is a bald guy. And I was there because
I had an African gray that was being worked with
as a rescue right and this woman would she worked
with parrots like from all over the world. And I'm

(50:59):
sitting there looking at my African gray, and all of
a sudden, I hear hello. I'm like, looking around, what
the heck is a of the parrot here? I'm looking around, hello, Hello,
And I looked down like it's a freaking robin. It's
looking at me and it's going hello, and I'm like
and she's laughing, and she goes, yeah, I taught it
how to talk. Okay, you're just like freaking me out.

(51:21):
So you see, yes, oh see that they do?

Speaker 5 (51:27):
They do.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
I actually rescued a dove from a crow, a baby dove,
and it was pecking at the baby dove, so I
swing my car door open. I'm on a corner and property.
I did. I flung the door open, I went out
and I grabbed, I grabbed the little baby and I

(51:49):
and I just took it home because I worked with birds,
so I had like all kinds of different uh you know,
a little cage. Look got better and fed it and
did everything, and it stayed on our property for like years.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
I thought, you're going to grab the attacking bird and say,
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (52:04):
It's just a baby.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
No, I partly it's unfortunately it's a circle of life.
But I did, Yes, it is, you know, Yeah, so
it is what it is. Unfortunately, well I don't always
like to see it, though, not on my watch.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Again, for those of you tuning in, Michelle is not
mister Ron moorehead. I'm thinking he got the time zone
mixed up. So I will send another invite for him
to have him on again in the future, the near future,
I hope.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
So yeah, yeah, he's a great guy, but he's three
hours behind you, so he could just be a bit
mixed up.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Yeah, and I know he went to recently. I think
it was he went to Louisiana for some conference. Yeah,
he's probably got a lot of things going on, and.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Oh, I'm sure it's just a season.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Yeah. Yeah, so but yeah, he's a he's a great guy,
and uh, we'll be we'll be lucky to have he
and Daryl on the show and you get to hear
him all the time.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
That'll be awesome.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That's what we do. Yeah, we had to, well, some
of us have to start a chat to say, Okay,
this is who I'm having, this is the topic.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Yeah, because there's a couple of times you're like, you
and JV have the saying because she's just before my show,
and yeah, you have the same topic.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
It's just like, oh crap, it's everything you guys, You're
like one after the other. So yeah, somebody is gonna
have a bit of a different.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
But it's kind of funny how that works out sometimes.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
Oh yeah, every now and then Tim would tail along. Yeah, yeah,
I was just gonna I know, it's funny.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
So now, yeah, now we have a group of chat
and it's like, okay, guys, this is who we're having.
Or sometimes JV and I had the same guess just
a different topic.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Yeah, just like you know what you got good. Guess
you have good guests, you know, I just it was
hard for me. I had to you know, I get
publicists and such who will message me, but then they
like to flood our network with guests and I'm just like, well,
you know, I'm not interested in and uh, you know,
messing with anybody's show. So even if they were with

(54:21):
me first, I would say, well, it's going to take
you another eight weeks to get on my show. So
it was just that's what I would do. I would
just I would move them off. So because as manager too,
you know, I'm not it's not every man for himself.
I'm concerned. I want everybody to do well.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
So and you're wearing hands on.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Who who was I talk I think talking to Brian
Bowden when one time, Yeah, he's so funny and knowledgeable,
but I said something about, uh, I have to.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Discuss with my manager. You've got a manager.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
It's like kind of yeah, kind of, she's a manager
of the station, my manager.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
But take care of everybody across the board.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Oh god, you're like the little m You're kind of
like the mother duck and we're all the little ducklings
behind you.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
I never quite been heard that a little black duckling.
Maybe my little baby crow, baby crow. Oh, somebody gifty
gifted so cute. See he's so cute. Yeah, aliens crows.
You never know what's going to end up over here.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
So I keep hearing my dog running up and down
the stairs. She doesn't like it when the pack is separated.
So some some of the family's upstairs and I'm down
in the basement and she's just like, not together.

Speaker 6 (55:51):
Yeah, where are you?

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Oh well, I'm just curious if you encountered somebody who
wants to get into the sasquatch research, would there be
a researcher in particular that you would like, not not
necessarily one, but any of researchers in particular, that you
would guide them too, to read their books or reach

(56:16):
out to them.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Oh, for myself, I've had some great research, some great researchers.
Come on, you know, there's Ken Gerhard, There's who does
I mean? I have to say, Daryl Ron. I've had
a couple of people, a couple from Florida on the
Skunk Cape. Amazing. They started following me on after I

(56:40):
think after seeing one of Ron and they started following YouTube.
So I tend to you know, I will follow back.
You know, we got dialogue going and they came on
and it was amazing because it was a husband and
wife team and it was a total different spin on things,
and I was just like, Wow, these guys really have

(57:04):
it together. But there's so many It's just like the
paranormal field. There's just so many amazing researchers out there.
I think if somebody said something to me, look, we'd
like to have this person on or this person on,
I would go, I would research, I would read, you know.
But I mean, I'm contacted by so many incredible people

(57:26):
that it's hard to pick one over the other when
you know they are There's so many fantastic people out there.
They're all worthy of the information, you know, of sharing
their research. There's just so many different perspectives.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Yeah, I dislike when researchers in any field, we'll start
bashing other researchers because they don't agree with what they're saying. Well,
instead of bashing one another, work together, find out what
they're what information they got, and vice versa, and we

(58:02):
might be able to come to a conclusion of what
these creatures actually are a lot a lot faster if
we work together.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
But it's ego. There's there's a lot of in any
line of work. I'm not saying just you know, highly
strange research. I mean any line of work, there's a
degree of ego. I think, you know, again, for what
it's worth being a good research the most fundamental part
is is having some kind of an open mind and

(58:31):
being able to work with your peers, having healthy dialogue,
because I don't think there's reason to attack anyone if
you don't agree with them. You know what, if you
don't agree with them, pay agree to disagree. You know that.
That's that's what makes the field so unique, is it's
just if you are doing your best to research. I

(58:51):
mean sometimes you get you just get slaughtered by by
television shows too. I were tired because I just got
really tired of being labeled, oh, demon, demon, dem I'm
so far removed from that most of the time. I'm
just like you didn't realize I know a whole lot
of other shit, right.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Oh, when I first saw you on all these paranormal
shows and I didn't know you, that's what I thought,
you know, and then I got to know you more,
and it's just like what other things like.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
Wow, I mean, you know, when you're giving five or
six answers to one question and they're only going with
the big money question. After a while, you know, you
get tired of it. And that's what did. I just
quit and I and I did documentaries after that, and
I still do other types of media. I just I
just don't like I just don't even enjoy filming. I
love being behind the scenes creating and putting things together

(59:40):
more than anything else. So you know, there's a lot
of that going on as well, and I think that
it's important for people just to say, look, you know,
get to know that person and listen to them as
to you know, like I have complete one hundred percent
control over my shows, so what you're seeing when I'm
speaking is pretty much much the way I think. I'm

(01:00:02):
not being governed by somebody's who's chopping up the segment
and leaving it on the cutting room floor to sell.
You know, that's just not what it's like. And there's
a lot of people in different fields who run into
the same problem, you know, and sometimes people just never
make it. Some of the best reaches researchers are the
ones you don't even hear about in any field. They
just do it very quietly. It's too bad, Yeah, Robi, Yeah,

(01:00:27):
that's the way some are. They just don't want to
go through the rhetoric of the drama. They know they're
there to concentrate just on the research. But if the
research doesn't get out and you know, you know, it's
just it's sad. It's a shame because some stuff really
is worthy of being like stories that really are worthy
of being told.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Well, thank you so very much Michelle for stepping in again.
I really appreciate your time. Thank you everybody in the
chat for taking the time to hang out with us.
It's been amazing. So I'm just gonna say my farewells
to everyone here. Whoops, I got the wrong screen here,
so I'm gonna start calling you Ron now correct an Yeah,

(01:01:15):
try an impersonation, No, just kidding.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
If you talk Sasquatch, I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I'll brush up on my Sasquatch.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
We'll do it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
So a huge thank you to my special guest tonight,
Michelle Slash Ron Moore ahead, and to you my wonderful
audience for tuning in. I also want to thank you
pr and one oh seven point seven New Orleans and
one of five point three the Gulf Coast for carrying
the show. It truly is amazing how so many people
I've met on the on the network.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
It's like, thank you, Michelle.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
So if you enjoy tonight's episode, please like, subscribe, share,
and comment. It truly does mean the world to me.
And if you want to find out more about the
second annual gat NOA Sasquatch Conference in Gatin Quebec in Canada,
just drop me an email at Paranormal hurt one three
at gmail dot com. So until we meet again, take

(01:02:11):
care of yourselves and of each other sending you all
much love.

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