Prophetic Days of Noah are Here with Timothy Alberino, Justen Faull and Gonz Shimura - The Sharpening Report - Fringe Radio Network

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
Transhumanism is going to profoundly affect our generation before we're dead,
and our kids for sure, and most definitely our grandkids.
And that's a statement that the generation in front of
us really wasn't able to make. This is a phenomenon

(01:53):
that's going to begin to manifest in our lifetime, and
so we wanted.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
To address the millennials.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, I'm right on the edge of a millennial.
I was born in nineteen eighty three, so I just
made it into the millennial category.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We're being primed right now. Millennials are being primed. We're
being primed and our children are being primed to accept
the dehumanization of the human race, because that's what it's about.
It's about posthumanism.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And so really.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
What we're trying to catalyze is a resistance against the
dehumanization of the human race and standing for traditional the
traditional values, traditional trademarks I should say of humanity. When
I say the traditional trademarks, I'm talking about the genetic trademarks.
I'm talking about the sociological trademarks, the societal trademarks of

(02:54):
the human species. Because we're losing the ability not so
much just but certainly our kids using the ability to
even communicate with one another anymore as human beings, the
way that human beings have been communicating for thousands of years.
I mean, even the most fundamental, the most basic interactions
of the human race.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Are changing now, right now are changing.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
The only precedent for the time that we're entering is
the world before the flood of no, the pre flood world,
the first hybrid age. Because we're getting ready to enter
it to a second hybrid age, a new hybrid age,
and the ramifications could not be more calamitous for the
human race.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And that's why we are the resistance.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
That phrase has been used and rehashed so many times
by so many different organizations, But let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
It applies to us most coherently. Why because when.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
We resist the dehumanization of transhumanism, we are defending the
human race.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
We are the defenders of humanity.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Now that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
We've got we've got a handful of things we want
to talk about tonight, and uh, the cool thing that
I just want to say as we welcome everybody on tonight,
is that everybody on this panel has done some type
of work exposing transhumanism.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Goodness. I was involved in this back when I was
in college.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I focused in all my psychology courses, all my thesis projects,
we're dealing with transhumanism, transgenics. At the time, we were
told this was crazy, this is never going to come
to fruition. And and here we are now we're not
so crazy anymore. We're seeing things happen with the technology
that are being woven into the fabric of our everyday

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lifestyles so much to the point that you can't even
go to Starbucks or your local coffee shop or even church.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
You go to your church and the kids are all
just like this.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
I mean, they're not even communicating anymore without social media.
There's so much to get into. But I just want
to say, everybody on the handle tonight, we've all done
a decent amount of research and work into understanding transhumanism,
where it's come from, where it is currently, and where
it's estimated to go.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
So anyway, let me just go ahead and welcome on
Josh Peck.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Josh, Hey, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Justin great? Great?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
How's it going?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
It's going great. Good to see you again.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Josh.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
You've done quite a bit of of research into the
transhumanism agenda. And I'm just gonna say this, what's cool
about having Josh round is that, Josh you take almost
a little bit more of a conservative view on some
of the topics than I do personally, or that even
Timothy might take, or gones. We all kind of bring
different angles to the table. One thing I like about you,

(05:42):
Josh is that you challenge people not to just believe
all the crazy right up front. You're very skeptical about
accepting some of the crazier information. I'm skeptical too, but
I tend to dive into it and say, you know what,
I'm quicker to say there's reality to some of this,
probably than you would be. But we're at a point
now on the timeline where these things are in our faces.

(06:03):
Like you just you can't deny the technology and where
it is with the transgenics, you know, modifying DNA, bringing
in all types of technology. What are some of the
latest things that you've noticed about transhumanism and some of
the transgenic technology that's taking place right now.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Yeah, And I got to say my mind has actually
been blown on how advanced this has become in our
current age, because you're you're right with a lot of things.
I tend to be a little bit more skipt skeptical
than most, but a lot of that was because a
few years ago I would be really I used to
be really susceptible, and there were more than a few

(06:41):
times where I was proven wrong, and I got a
little sick of that. So I started having some more
skepticism about it. But this one's it's difficult to be
too skeptical skeptical about what is ahead, and I wanted
to know what was actually going on, what transhumanists really believe,
what they think, and so I invited one on my

(07:06):
show on into the multiverse Zultaani Isbaan and we had
a really good conversation. We completely disagreed on everything.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
The point of that was and this is, this is
something I think is lacking in the church. And that's
why I'm glad that this panel is happening. I believe
that we do have to hear out the other side,
not so our minds will be changed, and so we
can can be convinced that their way is the right way,
you know. I mean, if they were able to come
up with a compelling enough argument that everybody could make
up their own minds on that. But not because of that,

(07:38):
but because it sharpens our own arguments better. And we
can't really know what our arguments are until we hear
the opposition. So I took one of the most I
don't know, flamboyant maybe is the right word. Transhumanists in existence.
I mean he drove around the country in a van
shaped like a coffin trying to spread the message of

(07:59):
transhuman I mean, we don't we as Christians don't drive
in car shape like crosses to spread the Gospels. So
something's got to be said for that. But I really
wanted to know what he thought and what he believed,
and yeah, it was a productive conversation, but for me personally,
it really opened my eyes to how prevalent this is
and really how evil this ideology is behind transhumanism because

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it subverts the cross, it subverts everything that is good
that we believe in. And just real quick, you know,
and something that's been discussed all throughout human history is morality.
What exactly is morality? Now you have more nihilistic people
in the world who believe that it's morality is just
a subjective preference that we all have. You know, whatever

(08:46):
is good for you is good for you, but it
doesn't mean that it's good for me, and there's no
objective standard. Well, if that's the case, then sure transhumanism
makes a lot of sense to some people. But if
that's not the case, if there's an objective morality that
we can all at least you know, on a human level,
adhere to in some sense, unless we're just in denial,

(09:06):
you know that, then it's a different story altogether. I
contributed a chapter two a book called The Milleu that
was a collaborative effort from people at SkyWatch TV and
some other researchers out there, and in that I discussed
part part of that the morality issue, because there are
those out there who would attribute morality to biology, who

(09:31):
would say morality is nothing more than another term to
describe biological humanity. Yet if that's the case, that would
mean the less moral you are, the less biologically human
you are. So, you know, would that mean that there
are certain regions of the earth that where people in
habit that may be a little bit more primitive than

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we are, yet they're not as human because of that?
You know, I would seriously doubt people who aren't you know,
people are the left side of the political spectrum would
be really willing to admit to that. So I think
that's an issue. What the topic of morality, what that specifies,
there's a political issue too. If transhumanism actually becomes a reality,

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and it is now, you know, this isn't some far
off thing. It's happening now and it's only going to increase. Well,
is that going to thrive in a privatized environment through
capitalism and I actually think that's where it will thrive
the best, or is it going to be through government
programs and more on that approach, which if that is

(10:36):
the case, I think people tend to think that that's
more scary, but it will stave it off a bit
because you know, let's face it, the government isn't good
at anything, so that'll slow down the process a little
bit more. But still I don't I don't advocate for
government control of anything, let alone something like this. But
that's why we're here. We're getting the word out because
I think people are still many people are still stuck

(10:59):
in this idea that this is not a big deal.
It's a very small faction of humanity. It's a it's
a very small counter culture. It has no bearing on
anybody's lives right now, and if it does, if anything
does come out of it, it won't be for another
century at least, because technologically we're nowhere there yet. All

(11:20):
of that is false and justin you could even speak
to this in Hollywood, in children's cartoons, and in media
a popular media and entertainment. This idea of transhumanism has
been shoved down our throat. But it's not called transhumanism.
It's called the Avengers, it's called X Men, it's called

(11:40):
spider Man. It's called all the things that we as
millennials grew up watching and still love and I do too.
There are great stories, but at the same time, they
still have this agenda that's being pushed and has been
being pushed, meaning that what once this technology is readibly
available for the masses, it's going to be because there's

(12:01):
that nostalgia part of it too. So yeah, I am
not a skeptic on transhumanism anymore. I haven't been for
quite some time now. And and I and you're right,
I do. I do tend to be more on the
skeptical side with this kind of stuff. But I can't
watch transhumanism. Yes, let me.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I want us to get into the Hollywood aspect of
these things here in just a second.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
But speaking on the morality clause.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
If you want to call it that, that's a perfect
time to go ahead and bring on gone Shumir gons.
You and i've done programs together between Fourth Watch and
Canary Cry Radio where we've talked about transhumanism, and I
think one of the interesting little tidbits that you have
kind of brought into my mind is that there is

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a faction of so called Christian transhumanists.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Tell us a little bit about that, how.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
You got into this topic, and a little bit about
where you're at right now with your studies.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Sure, yeah, you know, when I first started looking at transhumanism,
it was the thing that clicked, you know, everything in
place for me in terms of what was going on
with the Naphelem and the Old Testament and understanding what
Jesus meant by it as in the days of Noah,
understanding what was going on at the Tower of Babbel.
All those aspects made sense to me when the modern

(13:17):
transhumanist movement, you know, made itself sort of apparent. And
I myself, I'm the same as born the same year
as Tim. So go eighty three.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Hey, eighty three, me too. That's three of us.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's oh, I'm eighty four.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
You're all older than me. You're all ancient.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Why don't you die?

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Right, three for eighty three and jamatry and see what
we get.

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Speaker 7 (15:24):
But here here's the thing that the aspect of Christian transhumanism,
and that's what I was going to bring up, actually
was the diversity of approaches to this because it appeals
to all religions, because it seems to have a an
eschatological and I don't mean that in like a you know,
negative end of the world, but just in terms of
an end of things. It seems to have a resonance

(15:47):
with a lot of people, with the New Agers. It's
the ascension with you know, even with Christianity, the New
Heaven and the New Earth. These ideas have been there,
and certainly those are true things that we're waiting for.
But there's a big obstacle in the way, or a
big thing that happens is Antichrist, this anti counterfeit Messiah
thing that's going to happen that the Church doesn't seem
to pay attention to. That My concern is at with

(16:10):
the church, not just not talking about the issue. But
I know that that Josh talked a little bit about
the skepticism of transhumanism before. Now how he's not a skeptic.
But you know, this idea of a hive mind. Now
we've thrown the idea around the borg and you know,
it's kind of like, yeah, of course they're trying to
build the hive mind. But the concept of a hive

(16:32):
mind and group think and actually creating a network of
people to better humanity is a huge, huge part of
what is happening, and it's something that's been projected from
I'm discovering much earlier than most people would think. I mean,
you know, you'd expect the scientific revolution and then you

(16:54):
know all this stuff, and of course there was always
you know, writings in the Cabbala and things like that,
and there have been researchers to show how Cabala in
quantum science seems to be the same thing. It's the modern,
repackaged version of it. But the occult origins is unreal
and the fact that the communication technologies we have right
now are effectively what long awaited occultists have talked about.

(17:18):
It's amazing when you read some of these quotes from
about one hundred and fifty years ago. One hundred and
thirty years ago. Here's one from Helena Blovotsky, who I
know you guys are familiar with if you're not. She's
a late eighteenth or nineteenth century occultist. She was very
influential in American occultism and bringing the Eastern philosophies out here.
She said this in eighteen. I think it's eighty six.

(17:40):
I was zoomed in here, but she said. Telepathy, as
it is now called, is the communicating of thought or
idea from mind to mind. This is a branch of occultism,
a part of which is known to the modern investigator.
But it is also one of the most useful and
one of the greatest powers. We have. To make it
of service, many things have to combine. While it is

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used every day in a common life, in the average
way for men or each moment, telepathically communicating. This is
what she believes to do. It in perfection, that is,
against obstacle and distance, is perfection of occult art. Yet
it will be known one day even to the common world.
And man is that if that's not a description of
the Internet one hundred and forty years ago by an occultist,

(18:26):
I don't know what is and what's emerging out of this,
And you look, you combine these writings from back then
with the modern writings of not just New Age but
business talking about networking talking. There's a book called the
Seventh Sense. Network becomes the New It's not just the
sixth sixth sense where the humans can gain these extra

(18:49):
perceptions through a sort of transhumanist to transhumanistic thing, but
it's also a seventh sense where a hive or a
sort of conglomerate human arrives, this neo human that is
not just individuals but a collective. And it goes back
to collectivism, collectivism and monism and all these ideas that

(19:11):
are prevalent in places like the you know, Burning Man,
which I know justin You're maybe going to go visit.
I don't know if that was concluded yet, but these
ideas are pervasive in culture. And the thing that is
different about now compared to any other time and known
recorded history. You know, what's generally agreed upon is like

(19:35):
known history is the technology. And so I know we've
had this sentiment of like, hey, technology, is benign. It's neutral,
like it's how you use it is how And I've
definitely thought that, and I think for the most part
that is true. But the more I learn and the
more I get into the nitty gritty of like how
computer science not just works, but just how the operating

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systems from the ground up, we're designed, the elements of control,
the control mechanism of loop feedbacks of you know what
eventually became the mk Ultra experiments with the sensory sort
of loops and controlling your trying to change your perceptions
and emotions based on physical torture and all the crazy

(20:19):
stuff that they did. All that was built into the
computer right from the get go. So I don't know, guys,
I'm a little disturbed in terms of like the direction
this is heading, especially with the hive mind concept, not
just because it's this technological thing, but because it has
sociologically changed us. Like you said, justin the kids with
their phones in front of their faces. I mean, I'm
guilty too. I sit there a lot of times and

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I'm reading something or I'm trying to learn something at least,
but I do have my phone in front of me,
and so the danger with the combination of not just
the tech but the social media aspect is where the
hive mind is really becoming palpable, not just you know,
it's not just like a group think anymore. It's like
with the technology in our hand, we are agreeing about something,

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and that collective notion is very interesting and it's going
to be a very dangerous thing in the next decade
as the technocracy becomes established and techno populism becomes a
real issue, as well as techno spiritualism. Everything's becoming techno
in this next decade. And so I think that's why
we're here talking about all this.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
The religious aspect is what gets my attention.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Like I tend to kind of I kind of lean
towards the most extreme side of how this is going
to play out religiously, you know, with the spiritual side
of everything. But when you talk about the hive, this
hive mind, this collective I remember back in early two thousands,
there was a program on PBS. I think I might

(21:42):
have mentioned this on Canary Cry Radio, but anybody can
google this.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
There was a program that came out called The World
Wide Mind.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
And PBS, as liberal as they are, they had the
whole good cop, bad cop routine. You know, they've got
a guy that's like so like so far crazy transhumanist,
and then they've got this other guy that represents like
the average conservative American Joe, and they kind of go
back and forth, good cop, bad cops, so that by

(22:10):
the time they're done completely conditioning you that you need
this cloud. They didn't call it a cloud, by the way. Okay,
this was way before we even knew what.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
The heck of cloud was.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
But they were selling this idea that there was coming
a day. They were already working on the networking for it,
and these supercomputers that were gonna be powering this this
worldwide mind, this hive, this collective and if we have
the hardwire or the we're not hardwired, but it's like
if we're if we're networked into this thing. And I
don't remember the exact language, but the gist of it was,

(22:43):
if we're networked in via microchip, via frequency whatever you're
you know, however you're connected to this thing, you can
download a language instantaneously, like you speak Chinese.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Now, gons, I.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Could be having a community, like you could be laying
in bed with your wife and I could just like
whisper in your brain.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
God, God, and gones terrifying?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Are you there gone? I mean, that's how creepy this is.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
We can communicate with this, But then you made another
statement about telepathy and I don't want to go on
a tangent here. You know the popular megachurch out there
in California that everybody has, goodness, all the headlines about
Bethel Church, the Destiny cards and all this other crazy
stuff that's been going on there. Their children's pastor put
out a video on his Facebook live saying that every

(23:32):
baby can be communicated with telepathically by its parents, Like
it's actually something we need to learn how to do.
Because your babies are born with their it's like they
have a mature spirit, but they haven't learned how to
communicate on this planet, right, and so as a parent.
And his name's Seth Dahl by the way, I'm not
making this up. If anybody's watching this and they think

(23:52):
this is just totally crazy, this is the children's pastor
at Bethel Ready in California. He says that he telepathically
communicates with his infants and that he encourages other parents
to do this. Are you recommending gods that there's an
element of telepathy that gets activated by technology and all
of this.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Where are you going to go with that?

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Yeah, I think what they're going to do is in
part of this. And I just pulled this up because
this is so relevant and I know we don't want
to go too far down any given rabbit trail. But
there was an article that was published by ABC titled
telepathic communication just a matter of time as twins reveal
blueprint for brain interface and it's it's a conjoined twin.

(24:34):
These these two girls have their their heads are fused together.
That's how they were born. But they have like you know,
they're able to share experiences. They're they're able to share
uh kind of you know, the tastes and and uh
you know, things they crave or with their thirst or
things like that. And that is the key here. It's

(24:54):
it's electric signaling. We're all just electric signals. Remember, So
what's gonna start happening is now they've already done it.
They've already mapped or tried to map parts of rats
brains and stuff, and they're able to show the electrical
pulses that are taking that are taking place in the
brain they've even created a whole procedure to go through
and digitize that brain into the cloud. So yes, rat

(25:16):
brains are already in the cloud, and so I think
what they're going to start doing is not just digitizing it.
But the thing that's really creepy in the most cutting
edge research, it's not it's not necessarily implants. You know,
we've always talked about microchips and implants and stuff. They're
talking about, we're not going to need any invasive stuff.
We're going to be able to use the silicon type

(25:37):
of infusion technology, and we're going to be able to
get the kind of reading and you know, the back
and forth interaction electrically that we need via the brain.
So I think that there's there is already, there's already
tons of technology being made to do this. But the
implications are so crazy because if you start thinking about memories, right,

(26:03):
they already implanted a memory in a rat or something.
Can you imagine if you know we're sharing memories or
sharing experiences. These are going to become normal types of
things where the celebrity culture will completely change because you know,
people want to live vicariously through them through experiences and
things like that it's going to be a whole different world.
And so yeah, I think communication at that supernatural level,

(26:27):
that's that spirituality side, and then the technology is going
to show it. It's going to help facilitate some of that,
you know. And for for example, like the digitization of
the rat's brain, they were able to literally take a
piece of flesh and map it out digitally completely from
top to bottom. And now they have a digital version

(26:48):
of a brain that they're able to effectively give it
new memories or transfer that information to another rat across
the country with memories and things like that. So you know,
it's all it's pretty invasive towards our minds. And that's
the biggest thing here is this is an assault not
just on the body, but the mind. They have to
assault the mind first before they can really assault the body.

(27:09):
And I think that's what we're seeing, especially you know,
with the breakdown of the family and the transgenderism and
all these issues. It's all to break everything down to
create something new. And again that's something that they someone
like Julian Huxley talked about in the nineteen forties that
we're going to purposely create tension across the political and
social and education and economic and everything, so that a

(27:30):
new thing would emerge and a collective new humanity will emerge,
and that that's kind of what they're going for. But
the religious side of it is certainly a big vehicle,
and I think we need to have that discussion because
the church man, the church is ignorant right now of
the topic. They just don't know. They're going forward with

(27:51):
the tech without any sort of checks and balances. They're
just kind of keeping going with the culture. And that's
a huge trap because that is a huge part of
the New World Order system, the UNESCO system. It was
the three pronged approach education, science and culture.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
So speaking of religious dynamite guns, there's a a faith,
Technology and the Future conference that is being put on by.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
The Christian Transhumanists Society. It's a Christian transhumanist conference. And
this isn't These aren't futurists, these aren't secularists, these aren't humanists.
These are so called Christians who are not only who
are far worse than ignorant concerning the question of transhumanism.
These guys are these guys are complicit in the in

(28:45):
the accepting of of what transhumanism teaches in terms of.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Mixing it into their theology.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And I've seen a lot of this, and I'm sure
you guys have seen a lot of this too. These
megas churches are already primed. And when I say megachurches,
I think everybody thinks the same handful of churches are.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Already primed to.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Amalgamate the doctrine of transhumanism into their water down version
of the Gospel. The stage has already set for this
to take place this conference. Their main speaker at this
conference is Aubrey de Gray, who is a scientist who's
working to end aging.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
He wants to defeat.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Death and find a cure for aging, and he's a
very famous guy and doing a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
To try and defeat death. So I think it was you,
Jos that mentioned.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
One of the spokespersons for transhumanism that you interviewed was
driving around a coffin to try and to try and
get the word out about transhumanism, to try and proselytize
the doctrine of transhumanism.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Really, a coffin.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is can be used to accurately depict the problem that
we have, which is the human condition, the problem that
the human race has is sin and death. We are
in a state of extreme genetic degeneration. We are not Adam.
We all want to be Adam again. Hence the all
of the superhero movies that are coming out and so forth.

(30:23):
This is, as you said, correctly, Josh, this is transhumanism
in our face. These are people who have been genetically enhanced.
In most cases, most of these superheroes are genetically enhanced,
and they represent in a way psychologically for us, they
represent Adam, They.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Represent what we once were, what we long to be again.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I believe that every human being is secretly longing to
be Adam again. And so this, this desire to defeat death,
is the desire to overcome aging and defeat death, has
been the deepest and most profound logging longing of the
human race, all the way back to the off spring
of Adam, all the way back to Adam himself after

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suffering the consequence of sin, which is death. And death
is a consequence of sin. Death is our condition. Death
is our fault, and not just death entropy. Entropy and
death are our fault. We brought death in the world.
The Bible says that through one man, death, sin and
death enter the world, and it's through one man.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Is the rectification of sin and death, and it's not
Aubrey Degrade, it's Jesus.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so this effort to defeat death, this effort to
overcome aging, is a circumvention of the Cross of Christ.
That is a circumvention of the rectification of the human condition, which.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Is the resurrection.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
The resurrection is the rectification of the human condition, period,
and any attempt to rectify the human condition. I'm not
talking about curing diseases. I'm not talking about increasing lifespans
using technology. I'm talking about becoming something other than human
in order to circumvent the human condition, circumvent death, circumvent

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the Cross of Christ and the resurrection.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
That's really what transhumanism is about.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
And any believer that embraces the doctrine of transhumanism has
forfeited the doctrine of Christ, period and cannot be considered
a believer. Because Paul said that our hope as believers
is the resurrection.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That is our hope as believers.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
In fact, Paul says that if Christ was not raised
from the dead, we are to be most pitied among
men because our hope is in the resurrection.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
The hope of a believers, not in this life. It's
not in extending his life. It's not in.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Curing, aging or any of that. We understand that we
are bearing at them. We wear at them. We bear
the consequence the ramifications of sin, which are death.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That all of.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Us will die, even those of us who have embraced
across Why why will we die Because we're.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Still wearing atom. That's what the resurrection's for. We die
because we're wearing the first atom.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
We will live eternally because we're going to put on
the second atom, the last atom. That's the resurrection and
the doctrine of Christ, the doctrine of atonement and the
resurrection in Christ, is what is most lacking in.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Churches today.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
The foundational pillars of what the early Church believed, the
crucifixion of Christ, the fact that he was buried and
raised on the third day, the fact that he ascended
to the Father, and the fact that there is a resurrection,
the hope of the believer, the resurrection.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
For those who are in Christ.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
This is the gospel of Jesus Christ, and this is
what is not being preached at most churches. So the
churches are being primed to accept a counterfeit resurrection, a
counterfeit gospel with a circumvention of the Cross of Christ,
the circumvention of the resurrection, to live eternally through the

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through the mechanism of transhumanism, through the mechanism of transhumanism,
because transhumanism is it's not just a philosophy. Transhumanism is
a transition. It is a transition that takes us from
being human through transhuman to the ultimate goal, which is
post human. Posthumanism is the endgame. And understand that posthumanism

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means that to be posthuman is to forfeit your candidacy
for salvation.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
What makes you eligible to receive the gift of God, The.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Eligibility to receive the gift of God is the fact
that you are a human being. If you are something
other than human, then our kinsman, human redeemer no longer
qualif for you across of Christ is and all for
you if you forfeit your humanity. That's what ought to
be being preached from the pulpit, Not this acceptance of transhumanism,

(35:11):
Not this desire to defeat death through other means. Again,
I'm not against curing diseases and doing things that don't
change the trademarks of human being. That's where the danger comes.
Because the only way you and I'll kick it back
to you, guys, the only way to circumvent.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
The human condition, to circumvent the resurrection.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Is to become something other than human, because here in
lies in this body and in your bodies. Here it
lies the curse of sin, which is death. Our hope
is in the resurrection. And that is is, as I said,
what ought to be reinforced right now now in every

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church across this nation and across the earth, to shore up,
to relay that foundation of the Gospel which has been
little by little over the years, gradually broken apart and
destroyed by these various movements, so called movements within Christianity.

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And isn't it interesting that even the transhumanists know for
any hope of eternal life or immortality, however they want
to phrase it, they have to become something other than human.

(37:30):
Isn't that interesting? Because they could have phrased their whole
movement differently. They could. They could have said, no, we're
still human, but we're the true human. We're we're the
human that is supposed to be. You know, it's not
human to die, it's not human to do any you know,
to degrade and be subject to entropy and all that.

(37:51):
They know that they know within themselves intrinsically, they know
that that's wrong. They have to become something different than
human in order to gain what, you know, what they
would say as immortality, or we would say, is eternal life.
You know, we as Christians, we know that the only
hope in eternal life is through Jesus Christ. Then we

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will never get it in humanity. It's strange that the
transhumanists know that too. But what's also interesting is that
they forgot what the definition of human is, and they
forgot what morality is. You know, we can generally agree
on a lot of the same points of morality, you know,
a lot of a lot of the more transhumanists or
secularists fall back on ancient Greek philosophy and stuff like that,

(38:33):
you know, like the non aggression principle and stuff like that.
So we can meet them on their own terms. So
let's say, you know, a human being can be defined
in a broad sense, you know, pretty simply. You know,
the dictionary says this a man, woman, or child of
the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior
mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance. Okay, now,

(38:55):
you know part of being human is you know, we're
made in the image of God and all that. But
let's meet them on their own ground. Let's say, Okay,
they don't believe in that, fine, we can meet them
on their own ground with logic and reason. The majority
of transhumanist goals, if they were actually successfully carried out,
they would not fit with that definition, or rather they
would actually surpass it. So human Homo sapiens now compared

(39:19):
to other animals, they're considered to have superior mental development. However,
one of the goals of transhumanism is to increase that
development to a state are surpassing what's possible for mere
Homo sapiens. So we now have the power of articulate speech.
Yet something like uploading a person into well gon like
Gon's mentioned to global brain or a high mind or

(39:40):
something like that is available, the speech available that would
be available in that environment would no longer be articulate
or even understandable to a normal Homo sapien, to people
like you and I, even the idea of upright stamps
would be a point in a virtual environment. But this
is why, this is why I think transhumanists plane transhumanism

(40:01):
as a directed evolution from Homo sapiens to something new, uh,
you know, improved, enhanced, and totally different. The type of
being that's that they're referring to that that's that's going
towards this directed you know, with this directed evolution thing
is called Homo superior. You know, that's when you see
the lowercase H with the plus sign at the end

(40:24):
of it, that's what it's referring to. Or sometimes it's
called Homo futurists, you know, futurists. But one of the
more troubling things about that concept is how this is
going to be done and what it means for the
rest of humanity, and even on their own terms, it
goes against the non aggression principle. So much of transhumanism
relies on the implementation of genetic editing, and we're seeing

(40:45):
that a lot today. So basically, in a nutshell, the
idea for those who might not be familiar and are
just brand new to this topic, the idea is that
a person can alter their genes or DNA to enhance
their overall biology, and that's being done today through biohacking,
just in people's garages and stuff. Now, this would greatly
reduce the limitations of human biology. You know, certain enhancements

(41:09):
might include, you know, maybe starting off with small things
like giving people super strength or night vision, but could
also be as extreme as possible immortality or an immunity
to every known disease. And now while those are certainly
you know, tempting outcomes, there's no way to know what

(41:31):
the future ramifications of those enhancements might be. So one
definite and unavoidable consequence transhumanism is the passing down of
edited or enhanced genes through your generations. If a person
alters their genes and they have children, that gets passed down.
Now this means eventually a world could conceivably exist where

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the choice to conceive human children with a human partner
would be totally removed, thereby forcing the transhuman agenda on
the rest of the human population against their will. And
this is this is something that I don't think a
lot of transhumanists really think out because most of them
say that they're not totalitarian. Everybody can do what they want,

(42:14):
you know, they're they're they're more social liberals and that
type of thing. Everybody can do what they want. But
they don't realize that if they are, if they are
successful in their goals, they're taking our our choice away
for future generations. You know, it might it might be
defined as merely like a personal choice today. But that's
only valid for at the most one generation at most,

(42:36):
So for example, we could compare it to like getting
a tattoo. You know, I got a few of it myself.
It's a personal choice, okay, But uh if if if
a tattooed person has a baby, they're not born with tattoos,
you know that that that choice was my own choice
and it's not passed down uh in the generation, so
a baby is not also born with tattoos. Now, with transhumanism,

(42:56):
the future generation has no choice, and once that choice
is made for them, there's no going back. A human
superior baby could never grow up and decide to be
a homo sapien, even if there is, even if they
morally disagree with what transhumanism has done to their biological makeup.
I mean, even we as Christians, even we as Christians

(43:16):
offer that choice to humanity. If you don't want to
be a Christian, fine, then you don't have to be
a Christian. And there's a lot more I could say
about that, but I don't want to take up the
whole conversation. But I'll just say real quick that you know,
also a homo superior or a post human, it's not
just created out of thin air. A Homo sapien is

(43:37):
needed to create a posthuman or a transhuman, or a
Homo superior, which means for the addition of every Homo superior,
one Homo sapien is lost. And over time those two factors,
one being the shrinking Homo sapien gene pool and the
loss of existing Homo sapiens being the second, it would

(43:59):
eventually reach and a complete species eradication, and that's known
as specicide. Now, while the great evil of genocide is
defined as quote the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political,
or cultural group end quote, specside in the context of
what we're talking about today, is the actual extinction of

(44:20):
an entire human species. It goes beyond genocide. And I
would think that if if trans if transhumans were consistent,
and I'm speaking generally, but if they were consistent in
their own ideology and their own ideas, that they would
follow it out to the ultimate outcome. They would realize, Okay,
in order for us to have our little movement here

(44:41):
and and plan it out to fruition that specicide, there's
just no way around it. Eventually, it's going to reach
a tipping point on Earth where humans Homo sapiens do
not have a choice anymore. And there's good reason to
believe that possibly that's what's being talked about in a
lot of the Book of Revelation. So I'll turn it

(45:01):
back to you guys.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Yeah, let me let me just comment on immortality real quick. Josh,
you start throwing words like that around and people instantly.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Conspiracy theory meter goes off in their head. The truth
of the matter is.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Immortality that might be found in this life, it's still
temporary because once the Great Tribulation is done, you know,
I mean, look, things are gonna happen during the Great Tribulation.
The Bible is very very clear, yes, and during this
time period. I mean there's gonna be some things that
are gonna come to fruition during this time period that

(45:40):
are not going to happen before this time period, Like
there are things they are predestined for this time period.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
You can meet, you can even meet the secularists on
their own terms, you know, because and yes, and I
fully agree with that, and every Christian should agree with that.
But if you're if you're debating with a transhumanist or
a secularist, you can still make the same and say, well, look,
even on your own scientific terms, the universe is either
going to suffer heat death or a freeze depth one

(46:08):
of two things. Eventually. Maybe it takes billions, billions of years,
but because of the expansion of the universe, eventually everything's
going to freeze and die. Where's your technology? Then nothing
can survive in that environment. Or the higgs Field doomsday,
and that's a whole other thing, but basically, which could
happen at any second, the universe becomes a true vacuum
where particles can't even exist and everything gets ripped to shreds.

(46:31):
If people want more information on that, check out Joe
Licken's presentation on the higgs Field doomsday. By their own standards,
they know, no matter what technology you develop, it can't
sustain that because what they theorize is actual particle eradicating
forces and processes. No technology can surpass it. So you're

(46:53):
absolutely right. For the Christian yes, we got tribulation, we
got prophecy, we have all this stuff that we know
is going to happen from the Book of Red and
Daniel and all that. But for a secularist who doesn't
believe in those things. The point I think is even
more clear that based on their so called science, this
is all going to end. Someday. You're going to die.

(47:14):
It doesn't matter if you live one hundred years or
a billion years, You're going to die. You're going to
cease to exist physically.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
What next?

Speaker 5 (47:21):
But if God does allow any type of we'll just
say presumed immortality, because I think that's what it's going
to be. The transhumanists, they're going to be able to
access certain technologies, right.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
And I think we get a little.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Clear glimpse of this in scripture because when you go
to Revelation nine to six, I'm just going to read
this for everybody here. And in those days shall men
seek death and shall not find it, and they shall
desire to die, and death shall flee from them. So
there's something very peculiar about this passage. Some shift is
going to take place now. I believe it has to

(47:55):
do with transhumanism now, and I want to get everybody's
opinion on this if we have time. I think that
that there's something that's going to take place. There will
be a shift that takes place physical slash spiritual shift
that takes place which will affect mankind in the tribulation.
And again I don't mean Christians, and I don't want
to get into askatology. Everybody's got a different opinion on that,

(48:15):
but the Bible is very clear there will be elect.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
On the earth during the tribulation.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
So whether you know, everybody has a different view of
who those elect are, I think we all know. We
all have our own views on that. But regardless of
who the elect are on the earth, there will be
Christians want to get Christians on the earth and the tribulation.
They will not take this transhumanism. They will not have
anything to do with it, and they're not going to
try to kill themselves. But for those who do take

(48:42):
part in the beast system, okay, those who go through
whatever this looks like. And I can't paint a picture.
I don't know what it's going to look like, but
something's going to happen where they will want to seek
death and they can't find it.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
They will not be able to kill themselves.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
As for right now, people just go out, you know,
go out back and you pull out a gun or
take a bunch of pills. I mean, right now, there's
a suicide rate there's coming a time where men won't
be able to kill themselves, according to what I'm reading
in scripture. Now, Timothy, let me jump to you real
quick on this.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I think that certainly there are technologies that are under
development right now in synthetic biology and biotechnology that are
going to create all kinds of scenarios. I mean, people
are talking about nanotech bodies, people are talking about extreme
forms of cybernetics. So certainly these technologies are underweight or

(49:41):
under development. They are going to emerge in the consumer
market shortly. This is one of the drastic changes that
we're going to see in our lifetime.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
And then our children.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I've got four voys by the way, our children are
going to deal with. Is this emerging market for human modification,
for the for the alteration of human biology, whether it
be on a genetic whether whether it be on a
genetic level, whether it be using nanotechnology, whether it be cybernetics,

(50:11):
artificial intelligence, or integrating technology into your biology. And this
is going it's going to it's going to create a
scenario in which people are going to be forfeiting the
traditional meat sack of human flesh, and they're going to

(50:33):
attempt to upload their consciousness to two machines. I don't think,
you know, I'm not convinced that a machine can have
a consciousness of it of its own. I'm not convinced
that the singularity is possible, the singularity as it pertains
to Ray Kurzweild's theory.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
However, I do think.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That there might be it might be possible to to
a degree, to move consciousness into a synthetic body. And
that's underway. There's all kinds of experimentation happening there. What
we have not yet seen is the consumer market. And
the reason why we haven't seen the consumer market yet

(51:15):
is for two reasons. Number one, of the technologies are
still still developing. Right now, we're witnessing the convergence of
what are called the grin technologies genetic robotics, artificial intelligence, nanotechnology,
and I would throw in cybernetics. These technologies are converging.
They are converging, and the convergence of these technologies are

(51:36):
going to make possible the conscious evolution, the directed evolution
of the human race, generally speaking, through biotechnology and also
synthetic biology and synthetic biology in the sense that people
can create new life forms.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Now college.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
High school students are already creating new life forms, single celled
organisms that do different things. There is a competition a
couple of years ago to among the high schools, which
high school, and it was all over the world could
create the most interesting, the most useful synthetic, new synthetic
life form. And I believe the winner of that particular
year was a single cell organism that could eat I'm

(52:18):
trying to think a word, not plastic, the asbestos or
whatever it's called, the dangerous substance that gets into your
lungs and gives people all kinds of respiratory problems. So
high school students already creating synthetic life and so if
you can create synthetic biology, if you can create a
new life form, we're going to be able to rebuild biology,

(52:42):
to mold biology, to direct the evolution of other species,
but also our own evolution, not in the Darwinian sense,
not in the sense of survival of the fittest. This
isn't a natural process. Directed evolution is not Darwin directed
evolution is nietzschee friend erricks Machi. We don't to power

(53:02):
and it is the kind of evolution that the Transumanists embraced.
They don't embrace survival, the fit ish screw that they
are subscribing to Tunietzschean philosophy. And so the objective is
going to be just like these Christian transhumanists are dealing
with this year, in this month, at the end of
this month in their conference, how do we defeat aging?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
How do we defeat death? Well, the problem is here.
The problem is Adam. Adam is dying, Adam is degenerating.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Not only are we all going to die, we are
all sorry excuses of human beings to begin with, compared
to our progenitor Adam. And so we have a problem.
We wear it, and ultimately we're going to be able
to make We're going to be able to make modifications
to our flesh.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
We already can to a degree. There's a misconception out
there that we're living.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Longer and healthy. We're not rationally not. We're living slightly
longer than our predecessors. If you subtract the infant mortality
rate from the nineteenth from the twentieth century, take out
the infant mortality rate the children that were dying at
birth or up until two or three years old, subtrack
that out of the equation they were dying for all

(54:12):
kinds of reasons that no longer occurs because we fixed
those issues.

Speaker 9 (54:18):
Take that out of the equation, and we're only living
slightly longer. Slightly longer with all of our technology than
our predecessors. However, we have way more diseases today than
they did, certainly way more genetic disorders than they did.
In fact, we have more than ten thousand genetic mutations
deletarious genetic mutations in the human geno, more than ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
So you tell me, do we.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Repair this thing or do we try to build a
synthetic body and transfer our consciousness into that thing? And
I think ultimately repairing this body is only going to
get us so far, and we're going to have to
resort to transferring our consciousness or buildings.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I'm kind of a synthetic body or something along.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Becoming something other than humans is basically what it closes
down to Joshua saying.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
That's where this is going.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
So those entities, those creatures that we create, either to
try it house our own consciousness in there, or some
kind of a nanotech body or something.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
There's all kinds of crazy things that are being dreamt
up now by.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
The future as if we succeed in creating some kind
of an artificial suit instead of this suit, we create
an artificial suit, a synthetic suit.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
We put our consciousness into that suit. The question is
does the soul go with it?

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I don't know, nobody knows, but I think the consciousness
can go, and then what happens.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Then you might be getting into this is a very
long winded answer to your question to justin.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
But then we might be getting into a scenario where
you've screwed around with the blueprint and now you've created
hell on Earth for yourself and others who are in
your situation who maybe move their conscious this uh, this
synthetic life form, and people are probably thinking, oh, that's
crazy that can happen.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Well, then you answer me.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
How is it that demonic beings, sentient entities can inhabit
your body with you?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Right? How do they? How do they get in there
with you? And not just one or two?

Speaker 2 (56:22):
We're talking legion four hundred five hundred if we're if
we can take that literally, which I think is probably
pretty active, hundreds hundreds of sentient entities. These aren't just
cast for the ghost, These are sentient beings that once
had flesh and are disembodied, so that disembodied thing that

(56:43):
is still them, that consciousness.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Can go inside of your body.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
So if the consciousness of a disembodied basically the offspring
of watchers can enter your body, then why can't your
consciousness go into a synthetic body?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
And I think they're inhabiting the same space.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
To be honestly, I think that demons and the human soul,
whatever you want to call consciousness, they're.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Inhabiting the same dimension together.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
And so I do think again, I do not think
that the singularity is possible, that machines are going to become.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Self aware and conscious to the degree that we are.
But I do believe that synthetic biology is possible.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
And I do believe that the human being, the consciousness
of a human being, just like the disembodied spirits of
the nephilene, can be transferred into a synthetic life on
and there that may be the key to understanding, justin
what you're talking about, how it is that death will
escape them, will escape those who have done this for

(57:51):
many reasons, and that's a frightened that's a terrifying prospect.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
If life on Earth becomes hell on Earth.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Hey everyone, I hope you enjoyed the first half of
this episode of the Sharpening Report. You know, if you
are a Bible believing Christian who opposes the Kingdom of
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