December 4, 2025 • 61 mins
About The Guest:
Ron Morehead has been known for decades for his world-wide research into the Bigfoot/Sasquatch phenomenon. He is an author, researcher, lecturer, experiencer, and producer of the Sierra Sounds. To date, he comes closer than any other researcher to having a complete body of evidence. The Sierra Sounds are the only Bigfoot recordings that have been scientifically studied, time-tested and accredited as genuine.
Ron has documented his personal interactions with these giant beings and produced his story on a CD and also in a book, “Voices in the Wilderness.” In order to try and understand the enigmas associated with these giants, he began to delve into Quantum Physics for the scientific answers that he and his hunting friends experienced, and as a result he wrote another thought-provoking book,” The Quantum Bigfoot.” Ron now resides with his partner, Keri, in North Carolina, but has traveled from Alaska to Patagonia and from North America to Siberia in search of the truth to how these beings are able to stay so hidden from Classical science. Besides being the keynote Speaker at many conventions, he has been featured on countless radio programs and TV documentaries such as the Learning Channel and Travel Channel.
WEBSITE: http://www.ronmorehead.com/
Ron Morehead has been known for decades for his world-wide research into the Bigfoot/Sasquatch phenomenon. He is an author, researcher, lecturer, experiencer, and producer of the Sierra Sounds. To date, he comes closer than any other researcher to having a complete body of evidence. The Sierra Sounds are the only Bigfoot recordings that have been scientifically studied, time-tested and accredited as genuine.
Ron has documented his personal interactions with these giant beings and produced his story on a CD and also in a book, “Voices in the Wilderness.” In order to try and understand the enigmas associated with these giants, he began to delve into Quantum Physics for the scientific answers that he and his hunting friends experienced, and as a result he wrote another thought-provoking book,” The Quantum Bigfoot.” Ron now resides with his partner, Keri, in North Carolina, but has traveled from Alaska to Patagonia and from North America to Siberia in search of the truth to how these beings are able to stay so hidden from Classical science. Besides being the keynote Speaker at many conventions, he has been featured on countless radio programs and TV documentaries such as the Learning Channel and Travel Channel.
WEBSITE: http://www.ronmorehead.com/
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at ten pm on upr N, YouTube and wherever you
listen to podcasts. So, folks, tonight we welcome back the
legendary Ron moorehead researching, sorry, researcher, adventurer, and the man
behind the iconic Sierra Sounds. His lifelong journey began with
the search for a biological creature, but over the years
(01:54):
has expanded into the mysterious and the etherel. Ethereal, I
always have a hard time with that word. From physical
evidence to high strenches and consciousness. Ron's perspective bridges both
worlds to join me as we explore his remarkable evolution
on understanding the Bigfoot phenomena. So welcome back, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Thank you. Got good to be here. By the way,
you just put an E in front of cereal, got it?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Okay? Never thought of that.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Hey, that's clever, that's awesome. Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
First of all, I just want to say hello to
Heidi in the chat. Hello. She's from Boulder, Colorado, I
believe that is. And she says hello, Ron, Let's see
remember how to do this?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
There she is.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I just want to wait a couple of minutes. Until
some people sneak in. Some people, Oh hello there, how
are you nice to see you? He says hello to
Heidi as well. Yep, so Ron, because I don't always
go live. I always like to wait a couple of
(03:08):
minutes until people realize, oh, she's live at six. So yeah,
this is gonna be a great episode. Like I told you,
before we were recorded, I had some people message me
say how excited they were that you're going to be
on again.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This is what I love to do, and everyone loves
listening to you. So you're you're a fascinating gentleman.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh well, thank you for that. That's argument.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well myself and my haunted hearts, that's what I call
my listeners. They all say, so so.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Oh good, nice to hear.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Thank you, You're very welcome. Okay, So as people trickle in,
I'll highlight some of the questions that they have if
they have any and or comments. So let's just jump
into it. If you're ready, I'm ready. So when he
captured the Sierra Sounds, what aspect of the vocalizations most
(04:15):
challenged your scientific understanding?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
All of them? They were all they were very interactive
with each other, and of course when they started out
at the beginning, they were very aggressive sounding, so I
kind of got our attention a little more. You didn't
know what their intentions were, something new for all of us,
(04:39):
you know. So anyway, as they kind of calmed down
to where they were kind of chattering among themselves, and
that's where we got a lot of recordings time, and
as we're going up there several times, we started recording
more and more. It wasn't until Alan Berry went up.
There was an investigator reporter who ended up capturing the
ones with his record that he sent off and had
(05:01):
them analyzed by the University of Wyoming, and they showed
that they were legitimate. There was no playing in it,
you know, where there were real sounds and they were exceeding.
Actually they found out there a year long study at
the University of Wyoming that they were beyond the human range.
A lot of them were outside the human rangers put
that way. So what captured my attention to most was
(05:28):
the thought of them, what could they be? What could
they be? They're huge whatever, their voice is huge, and
the tracks we saw were they represented something very very big.
So you just don't know. I just don't know. And you, Yeah,
you're wondering all the time, wondering, wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You must have been excited like a kid in a
candy shop.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, I was. Yeah. I was twenty nine when the
started for me in nineteen seventy one, and it was just, yeah,
it was very exciting because I'm kind of adventuresting and
always have been at heart, and uh so I just
kind of got enthralled over it and got really excited
to being up there and when these things would come around,
(06:12):
I mean, I show it, but I was excited.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, the adventurous side of you, because I think, if
memory serves, you were a pilot, and I think scuba diver.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
All those Yeah, that pilot, scuba diver. All. I had
a ranch with horses, race. I had fourteen horses and
Arabian stadion, and uh quite well, if I wanted to
do it, I just did it. And nice I didn't
want to one these old guys. So I wish I'd
have done that when I was younger. So when I
was younger, I did it or tried. You know. I
(06:44):
had a good business and I organized it well and
had some good managers and I was able to spread
myself out and across the world and just went into
Peru and Bolivia and Russia and Siberia and Nepal and
all and always something new to learn, and I was
doing better. I had a really charmed life. I guess
(07:06):
you might say it's been excellent, and I'm just very
happy for it that I've had all the adventures that
I've been able to have and been able to make
them happen and actually and be here to respond to them.
That's what's important. It's not the issue that comes in
front of you, it's how you respond to it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, you're just very fortunate to be able to travel
to all these amazing places.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah. I worked hard as a younger man, I said
twenty nine and started. But prior to that, I was
really worked. I worked a lot. I didn't know what
fun was like. I didn't get the mountains, I didn't
do hard of anything till I met my good friend
Bill McDowell, who who was part of this hunting group,
and I got involved in that, and then all of
a sudden, my life just changed into Wow, I like
(07:54):
the mountains like this. I like these big trees and
springs and all the wilderness and all that stuff up
till then I was a pilot, but I got tooled.
I really wasn't involved in it walking around. Uh you know,
I look at the shrubs or something. When I was
a boy of. When I was a boy of in Alaska,
I did. I used to run the creeks up there
(08:16):
and family moose I could find.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So have you ever visited the original location and do
you see if you If you have, do you feel
the energy there has changed over over time?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Well? I visited. Yeah, the last time I visited was
twenty eighteen with the David Pilate's Missing four one one.
He wrote those series books and uh uh I got
and yeah, I was there and there were family up
to the camp. The last time I was there, the
whole California was on fire at the time and just
(08:54):
we weren't sure we were going to get out already get
packed in with the mule team, and there was pretty smoky,
but it was interesting. And he did about fifteen minutes
on his Missing for One that Hunted. I think I
got about fifteen minutes section on that DVD he made.
(09:15):
Interviewed me around the camp there, and yeah, well I
think David Johnson, one of the elders. His dad's passed away.
Warren Johnson was his dad. He took the film and
crew up there before last he before this one, I
think it was. And that's the last time I think
(09:36):
anybody's been up there, because I guess the trail a
lot of it's been messed up with the fires. In
the fires. Yeah, the fires and some trees everything makes
it kind of a a different looking area.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I guess, Wow, what does go ahead say?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
His face is still there, you know, the camp area
is still there.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And the big tree around the camp area there for
Sarah Akers didn't burn. They underburned, you know how underburn goes,
and this burns up everything underneath it. But the trees
itself did catch on fire. I didn't know that happened,
but it happened. I flew over it after the fires
in a little plane and just to look it over,
and I noticed that, you know, the camp area of
(10:20):
what we were didn't burn so much, at least from
the air, it did look like it had burned, but
you threw on the ground it had burned.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Lucky.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, So what's one detail from the Sierra camp stories
that most people still misunderstand if there's any.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, they don't realize the remoteness of it. The Negroes
that were going on there. Some people think we still
just backed up our truck with a case of beer
and had a party or something. But it wasn't like that.
And David Potis showed that in his video that you
know how hard it is and what kind of a
trip it is to get in there. And then when
(11:00):
the other coming crew went in here last year with
with David Johnson, he they realized just how bad it was.
You can't explain the ruggedness of until you've experienced this.
You know that I've had a few broken ribs off
that trail and just well, you get the horse or
mule or something gives you trouble and you've guys got
(11:22):
to have a good animal if you're gonna ride in.
If you're gonna walk in, you're okay as long as
you're in good shape. And but if you're going to
ride in, you really have better have a good trail
animal or you'll mess up, mess you up, or mess
himself up or something. And that happened with Scott Nelson.
The crypto Linguis took infuious back he his horse and
(11:43):
was give us trouble, and the horse I was wringling
along with them, riding the horse. Well that's not the story,
allgether all that, but it was. It was quite true.
I never didn't make it to camp, even though he
was trying to things happening on the trail.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I've only ridden a horse twice in my youth,
so and it's I didn't find it that easy.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Well you I thought you don't how to ride a horse.
Oh yeah, I ride a horse. Well that means I
got only said ponies in a little grocery store somewhere,
you know. Yeah, they don't realize how much you've got
to do sometimes to help a horse. You know, when
you're riding in it. You got to know how to ride. Yeah,
you know when they go up and when I go
down and lean back, when I grab his tail and
you put your boots between his ears and stuff like that.
(12:28):
You know. Well, that's kind of Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Trying to picture that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's almost like that. I used to like to wrangle
because if you ring on something, you can hold onto
the rope, you know, and and that pulls you backwards.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Okay, And that's a good thing if.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The horse is going on. That was pretty steep area
and a lot of switchbacks and different well, things to
watch out for up there. In any backcountry area like
that where a lot of people don't ever go, there's
a lot of things to know about. Anyway, That's that's
(13:11):
my answer. I guess that's the question. Forgot the question.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now, if there was any any details from the camp
that most people still misunderstand was the question.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But oh well, I don't know. Some people don't realize.
I think it's an actual cabin it was up there.
It was just a group of trees that grew in
a circle with cables wrapped around them and then dead
folding up against it. That's what the shelter was. And
then two trees was kind of wedged like to B shaped.
We had a lot a lot that we've proved between
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that and then strap it and tie it on the inside.
So there was our doorway, and we packed and foamed
sleep on and our sleeping bags and Kevin barrels up there,
and same thing with our food. So when we did
have a chest walk in, we didn't have to pack
everything in. We're out and we could just leave it
up there, which isn't the case anymore. If you pack
(14:07):
it in, you gotta pack it out because in twenty
fifteen the Fortress Ever found out about the campsite and
made it made all had to be taken down, but
the spot's still there.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's interesting. So we have a question from Mike. Hello, Mike,
thank you for being here. He says, it's eight miles in,
isn't it to the camp?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Approximately? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Mike, Yeah, eight miles of course it comes. I think
Warren came up with that number, and then if I
kind of agreed with it, because it's a long trip
and if you're in good shape, you can you can
make it, okay, if you're walking, but your animal has
got to be in good shape too, because we used
to go up there the night before and camp the
camp the trailhead, and that way our animals got acclimated
(15:01):
to the altitude because it's about six thousand feet where
you take off and once you climbs are climbing, you
climb up to ten thousand feet and then back down,
up and down. Your animals, well, you all need to
be in shape. You're can make you trip. Just your
lungs alone, especially if you live in the valley floor
like like I did. I lived on syworkin valley and
just kind of a big change in altitude when you
(15:26):
start getting that lighter air.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, did you have any oxygen tanks with you or then.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It wasn't the thing. Then either breathe or you don't. Well,
my first trip up there with Donald, he took me in.
He's the one who got scared off, wouldn't go back
by himself. That's how I got involved, really because I
knew them all. But it was quite strenuous. Really. I
(15:53):
wasn't good, see, I mean I worked out all the
times to teach martial arts and stuff like that. I
was always doing something, you know, skiing oneter time, I'd
snow ski, summertime, I'd water ski. I just always act deep.
And I thought I was in really good shape. So
he took me up there, and I realized, you know,
when you walk from six thousand feet up to ten
(16:15):
thousand feet and in and out and back, it up
and down and the air makes a difference. And I
went into Colorado one time on adventure with some guys.
They took me up to ten thousands of feed and
we had a little oxygen bottles, you know that you
could take away and just off those are. That's what
you should do if you're new to it, especially because
that makes a difference. You can get some good air
once a while.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
How did the horses fair, Well.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It depends on how good they were, which works you had,
and yeah, what kind of shape they were in the
one trip I had where well that's no the story altogether.
But I had a horse that just went and cooperate
with me, and I bought him, paid paid two three
thousand dollars for him. Owner says, so good trail ready,
(17:01):
good horse grade. Well he wasn't that way at all.
It caused me some troubles. But you know that trail again,
you just don't take any horse up there. You got
to be a trail wise, I mean, you don't want
a horse is gonna get skitties every time a rattlesnake
or something on the trail or something like that. Well,
(17:23):
well it happened something. I got a hat down from
a fifty two inch trattlesnake up there. We had to
take out on the way. But anyway, it's the trip. Sure,
I don't know if I'll do it again or not.
But people ask me, you're gonna up there again? Well,
(17:44):
I don't have any reason to. I mean, something still
going on up there, I think according to David Johnson,
who went in, I think it's last year year before.
I'm not sure which now.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
With the interesting for you to go back.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well I might. You know, I would definitely ride in,
just because if I found a good horse or a
good mule. Meals are better than horses. Sometimes they're more sureful,
they're more they think about things. Or a horse will
just go off the cliffside of but a mule he'll
(18:22):
wait and you'll think about things. And meals are good.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Stubborn.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
But well that's why that's want to make some good.
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Where did that go?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
There?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It is?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Are there any biological traits you still believe bigfoot possesses
despite the more mysterious aspects.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Well in different ones than what I mentioned before. I
think they possess. I think we possess everything they possess,
except we just haven't learned to connect with it properly.
You know, we have. We have not been short changed
as a human species. We've been given everything that they
have been given, which I think something created them that
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just give them something extra that they someone is God,
and they know how to connect with nature. They know
how to connect with their vocal mechanism to create frequencies.
And we have got all those things. We just well,
one thing we may not have. If they've got more
vocal cores than we do, which that's been suggested. They
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would suggest to me one time they have seven different
sized vocal seven dif vocal courses. We have two, and
that means that that could mean a lot right there.
I hypothesize that probably possibly they have ability within their
vocal mechanism to create a frequency that would change their
matter and energy back and forth. And that's basically what
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you we noticed. Cloaking or disapperiance is what they do
to just go out of your visual range. And that's
that's set between four hundred and thirty and seven and
seventy terror hurts is our visual light frequency. Anything outside
of that, you know, like an eagle can see a
rat from two miles away and go down and get it. Dolphins,
(20:19):
everything speaks to each other and talk to each other,
and they have different attributes to get them through this
this environment that we're in. We haven't set a bunch
of attributes that we're born with. However, we have more
inside of us that we're actually created for. We just
that's what I think. The Master's todd in the ol
Dase was Christ. He said, you know, God is within you,
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and he started doing a lot of miracles and things,
and he said, you can do all this too. Well,
I'm not walking on water yet, you know, and years ago,
if I learned how to turn water into wine, I've
been bad shape today.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Probably, I think a lot of people will be in
trouble that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But actually Einstein, and of course it's been established mathematically
and quantum physics that you can find the frequency of anything,
you can change its matter. So there's a lot going
on with sound frequency. You're healing now, and you can
find the right frequency you can. If you know the
frequency of the item you're dealing with, you can change
its matter. And I think that's how a lot of
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miracles are done. Quote unquote. Miracles are just things that
we can do that we haven't learned how yet. And
you do that through I believe, through meditation, through just
allowing just what we have in is to come out
and to be complete and that's what chokers, I think
are all about, and things like that, balancing yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So let's see if there's anything I just want to
bring up what Mike brought up. I do believe most
of Bigfoots do have their special abilities, but also believe
some of them have lost it or just lost the
practice of it. Do you believe that's true, Ron.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yes, there, I answered that one quickly.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I think a lot of them across bred with indigenous
people over the eons of time. That's been noted in
a lot of Native American lower too. They take their
women and they crossbreeds that make them more human like,
more like us, and they would either their abilities have
been recessed sometimes or just lost or I don't think
they're lost, but they're recessed, and just like ours are recessed,
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they're in there. It's just we're got to learn how.
And I think that's what the young ones are here for,
when young brig puts, because they seem to have a
training field here when when they are born in this density,
this their density, they have to learn how to get
along in it. But they also have to not forget
who they are and not not overlook what their abilities
are like we do. We just we don't believe them.
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Sometimes we live in the Tonian world think and everything's
something you can touch field, see here, here, you gotta
you gotta have those attributes to think it's real. Well,
there's more going on. There's just a lot more going on,
and if you get into quantum physics, you realize even
like Christopher Breyer, West, tex As, I am. He says,
(23:13):
everything from the atom through the cosmost works and the
rules of quantum physics, well used to be years ago.
Quantum physics was considered only in the microworld, you know, No,
it's throughout the universe. It's everything. So we're right on
the back of Etonian physics quantum physics, but it's it's
what's prevalent. If you learn how to work it and
what's going on, you know what it's really all about.
It's not quite so mysterious, not quite so paranormal, not
(23:36):
quite woo woo, there's none of that. It's just something
to understand. And I think we all have to have
to open our minds up because you've got to have
an open mind for this stuff. You won't get it
if you don't have you've been trained and conditioned throughout
your life from the time of birth to just think
this is what's real and this is what's not real.
And you're your condition that way, and you've got get
(24:00):
away from that, not not away from it, but to
add to it. I can't get away from it. You
live in it. H That's my answer.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
To and Mike again. I know when they leave our
dimension dimension time is that, if I'm reading that correctly,
definitely slows down. Oh yeah, when they leave our dimension,
time definitely slows down. They showed me that with a
dead animal. And the only reason why I know where
the animal comes from because it was a neighbor's puppy.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Oh oh wow, poor puppy.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah. I think, well, when anything steps out of our
third density, it gets into the fourth, which is time
or or even empire. I ben know where your where
your frequency is, but yeah, time is different. Then that's
been established by the astronauts in space. And I'll.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Uh oh, I seem to have lost mister Morehead. Let's
see we can bring him back.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Sorry about this, people, my people. Let's see, I'm gonna
have to message him here. I do apologize for this.
I don't know what happened. Okay, so just messaged him.
(25:35):
Hope that he can get back on. Yeah. Oh no, Heidi,
I know just when it's getting good. Uh let's see
nothing on my end? Mm hmm, Nope, I don't think.
I just want to make sure that it's not me.
But ope, there is. I think. I apologize for the
(26:04):
technical difficulties. Everyone move and hmm, well, please be patient everyone.
We'll see if Ron can come back. I do hope so,
because I have received quite a few messages saying that
(26:28):
how much they are looking forward to seeing Ron on here,
and so it's nice to get feedback like that. So
I could probably say that uh Ron is a fan favorite.
Oh nope, popped out again? Oh jeepers. Okay, so I
(26:49):
could start dancing a jig for you. I won't sing,
it's not good. Anybody have any questions or comments in
the meantime while we hopefully get mister moorehead back onto
the stream here, anybody, anybody? Nope, let's try that again.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
There, Sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It's okay, I got three phone calls.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Got to do something about that. I usually think about that,
but I didn't think about this time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, worries there's always technical difficulties with podcasting.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well that's not technical. Let's just not be an alert
on my side.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
No worries.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You made it back, I did.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Do you believe bigfoot interact with humans consciousness intentionally?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Okay, Now more to that, they got the right frequency
going on. These things are able to reach the frequency
and mentally talk to them, and that's called mind speak,
I guess it called I've never had that happen to me,
and I know that's because I'm so analytical, you know.
I got to figure out come into my head what
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made me think of that? And I never even considered
that back in those days. But I think that's why
I got the voices recorded that we recorded so much,
because they wasn't able to mind speak to me. And
I say not able. I wasn't able to relax enough
to listen. But that way, because I think if I
had all that to do over again, I would have
(28:28):
done a lot of things differently. But who knows. You know,
here I am oh man now and I and all
should have good. It's a stuck coast on But yeah,
mine speakers was just basically entanglement and quantum entanglement. And
that's how it's called the universal We're all part of
(28:52):
a universal consciousness. And you see birds, you know, flocking
up in the sky all together moving all I want
in the same way the cash and the ocean, you know,
sprewing together, and they're not talking to each other. You know. Yeah,
we have this ability to actually we just would turn
lost and let it happen. We can, we can mentally
(29:15):
connect with other people.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's amazing. Yeah, I've heard a few people. There seems
to be more and more people talking about the mind
speak that they have with and that we just didn't
hear about many years ago. So just makes me wonder,
why are people just vibrating at the same same as
the bigfoot vice versa.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, I think they can pick up your vibration,
you know, just like an animal. A lot of animals
do that. My horse could tell which way I was
going to go, just for me thinking about it, about
me cure anyway, anyway with my knees or anything, you know,
he would know which way I want to go on
the trail or something. And animals have a way of
reading the aura, sensing the energy around you. And I
think these things have that same ability. Well, I'm sure
(30:04):
they do, pretty sure. And yeah, they're unique. Whatever they are,
they're unique, and they're not all the same. I got
to say that right a minute, all this because I
don't think they're all the same kind of except what
are all the same species? I'm not sure they're all
the same species. I think we've been visited by a
(30:26):
lot of aliens over the past, over the yards of time,
and then we're talking about hundreds of thousands of years.
A lot of hybridsation things are going on here from
advanced intelligences and they have just hybridized a lot of things,
a lot of things, a lot of species here now
are hybrids from probably an alien species that visited the planet.
And that's what we are too. Really get into all that,
(30:48):
but deep enough, you got to get in the Mesopotaian
into Samerian texts and understand what's really being said, how
things happen, like our ancient texts, our Bible and things
like that. That was raised with the Bible, and that's
that's the word of God. That's that's all you can
go by. Well that's been has been gone through conditioned minds,
(31:08):
you know, and from Constantine and the King James from
sixteen eleven. How Satin started that, you know, Roman pemperor,
like that's what Constant Nobles named after him, you know,
but he started to not seeing Kree and a lot
of people heard about that, well that I got all
the religions into one place so that he could control
and uh So anyway, h I get where I was
(31:32):
going with that. But like I said, I just ramble on.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So so let's see, has the journey changed? How could I?
How could I weard this? How has this journey changed
your spirituality or philosophical? Philosophically? I really can't speak tonight,
(31:55):
I apologize. So has the journey changed you spiritually? Your
physical good.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Grief physically or spirituality or philosophically? I have a lucky
I got through that one. Well, yes, I mean I
don't think it's changed me. Just had me to grow.
I think I grow and and you guys got to
keep learning and digging into things. Because the curious mind's
(32:23):
a very very good mind to have. And I've always
been curious about stuff, and the stuff that happened in
the Sierra camp was very very h well mystical, so
I had to figure it out. So it keeps you looking,
keeps you looking, keeps you looking. So being raised spiritually,
I mean being raised religiously. I knew scriptures quite well.
(32:45):
I knew. The first thing I started doing when I
ran into this stuff was I looked at the bout
where giants come from. Well, you get into the fallen
angels and the nepheline and all that stuff, and is
that true? Well, wow, there's all kinds of stories about giants,
all of them world, all kinds of cultures have stories
about giants. But when you get into how some of
(33:08):
those ancient Texas ancient text was manipulated and changed for
control over the popular you find out that there's a
lot of differences when you get into canaaniform text, which
is the cuniform of canaform I want to pronounce it.
That's the Siberia Siberian gosh, I didn't have enough of
(33:30):
lune chest restaurant or enough profit too much? Maybe talking
to no the uh ananochy. A lot of people have
heard that.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Oh yeah, it gets in.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The cuneiform text was given us to the Samerians. Sa
Marians wrote it downs for oldest known known written language
known to us, and it goes right back to thirty
four hundred and fifty to BCE, and you get into
that and you see how a lot of the words
and texts were because they just got just got translated
in eighteen hundreds, by the way, but you can still
(34:05):
see how it's been changed because it's all the languages
written languages came have a core from that, including Hebrew.
And when you get into how that has been gone
over the eons of time, hundreds and hundreds of thousand years,
you just get you realize how much has been going on,
(34:26):
and all things that were mentioned in the first five
six chapters of Genesis took several hundred thousands of years
in the According to home a Testament, it falls in
identically to I mean, when you're can Nial and Enoch,
if not Enoch Inky, any of those two brothers half
brothers and they I mean the mirrors, a lot of
(34:48):
things that were been said in Genesis, and you getting
into the deluge there flood. Just about all cultures all
over the world have records of that. U I just
encourage anybody to start deler into it if you have
an interest in it. If you delve into it, you
find all this stuff, And it's really, really, really a
(35:10):
lot of interesting stuff and entertaining tories. I can't get
into something if I'm not entertained by it or understand
something about it. I just I can't read novels and
things like that and Mary mess with Up with Joe
or something like that. You can't. It doesn't interest me
unless it's got some substance to it, you know. I
(35:30):
like substance. Stuff with substance.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So globally there are similarities. So like you got Sasquatch,
YETI Yowie and so many other different names in North America?
Are these creatures all the same creature? Do you think?
And then just because there are different parts of the
world that have a few little differences.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well there's yes or no on that one. I don't
think they're all from the Chambe, you know, from the
same maker, let's put that way. But like I said,
I think several types of advanced entities have visited this planet,
and they've done things to different species on this planet,
Bigfoot being one of them, us being another one. If
(36:17):
you want to get into the Naky story, I supposedly
created us. Think he'd had a passion for humans. That's
what made us so good, right, But then you got Emil,
who was the warring species. They fought a lot like
the two brothers in the Bible, and you got to
look into you so fun. But anyway, that's what made
(36:41):
us what we are. But then our telomeres are it's
determined when we lived so long, up to one hundred
and twenty years, supposedly were cut off and done with. However, man,
you still live a lot lot longer, and that's pretty
much recorded. And I think because the day it was
a lot different on this planet prior to the deluge too.
(37:04):
A lot of animals were bigger, men were probably bigger.
Everything was bigger. But I think that's got something to
do with the denisity of the air. I think it
all changed when when the terraforming took place. That was
probably twelve thirteen thousand years ago. But as far as
I'm all being the same, I don't. In my opinion,
(37:26):
they're not. But they could have a common they could
have a common denominated back way back, way back way
back somewhere. But lucky the ones in Nepal, up in
the Himalayas. There, they're shorter, they're about six foot and
five and a half six foot, but they're really robust,
and yet they're mitochondrial. Shows they got human in them.
(37:49):
So just about all these things when you get a
quality DNA out of them, which isn't done very much
because most genesis won't touch the subject, but it shows
the medical which is the maternal side, is a lot
of human. He is a human component like we have.
So most genesis or scientists will say, well, it's been contaminated.
(38:11):
Well that's not necessarily true. Perhaps it was, but I'm
not sure. No, I don't think so, not all of it.
I think probably there's a human component in them. It's
like as a human component of what we were dealing
with up there in the sierras. And I'm established that.
I think from a professional standpoint. You get doctor Kurlin,
(38:34):
professor of electro engineer in University of Wyoming, who established
their vocal mechanism was different than our superior They could
make the sounds that were inside, outside, below, and above
what we can do with humans. The average human. He
would analyze that of the one that he thought compared
to human was over a foot tall, well that's from
our sounds. And he got Scott Nelson, crypto linguist, two
(38:57):
time graduate of the Foreign Language Institute, montereyco for the military.
Had occur in the military as a crypto linguist listening
to unknown languages or unknown dis codes to see if
there's anything going on with for the military, and they
retired when into school teaching or foreign languages Russian and
Persian and all that stuff. Anyway, he's a crypto languist
(39:19):
that got ahold of these by accident. And he said,
there is a language, but then sounds that you guys recorded.
So you put that together with doctor Current saying, well
they represents something all right foot tall. Then you got
card Nelson, professional crypto linguists and they have a language.
Well language is very very important, which we didn't know
at the time just how important it was. But if
you think about it, you got doctor Lieberman, Brown University,
(39:43):
Philip Lieberman. He says, only humans have that ability to
speak like we're speaking now, only humans. You put those
three doubts together, it kind of gives you a picture
of something. It has to have a human component unless
you want to argue with the professionals, because I don't
argue it. I just say that's the facts. In fact,
(40:03):
the facts.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's interesting what you mentioned earlier. I never even thought
of the vocal cords where you mentioned that they have
more vocal corde vocal cords than we do. I never
even thought of that before.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
We don't know that.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It's just been suggested to me, okay, because you.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Get you find one and analyze unless you could, unless
somebody somewhere can tell from the tapes that we have. Uh.
Of course, like the whistles that we have recorded, and
we didn't record it infra sound or ultra sound. We didn't.
We had a look a set records. It's all we're
used up there, and uh. But the whistles we got
(40:41):
were established through the studies that they were done through
the vocal mechanism and not the lips. Like through the lips,
and you got the throat singers, you know, which are
prevalent in different parts of the country, who can do
this stuff like two different tones at one time. You
got to wonder just what the abilities are, Like I
mentioned earlier bout the size that maybe just maybe they
(41:02):
can create a frequency with their sound mechanism that would
allow them to go out of our visual perception. Because
if you take any tone, any tone and go the
forty ninth ought to you it will turn into light.
That's something I true didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Know, No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, and there's people say, hey, I've seen the Bigfoot.
Then I've seen the ball a light shoot off. You
know the light I've seen that. I heard that. Be
guys back to Renaissance. The people that are doing my
movie in the ser camp. Now, I have got a
man and his son who saw just that and they
reproduced it very well, and sure where they was looking
at the Bigfoot and then it just went down into
(41:44):
a ball of light and shot off. Well, that's energy.
Energy matter transfer with doctor Paul Durak got the Nobel
Prize in nineteen thirty three. I stocked to Ronnie Labac.
That's easy, the ones on that program TV series was
and he's into the same thing I am, because he's
seen some pretty intigmatic things or anything in that series.
(42:08):
Why do you think that series? You don't know? Do
you do?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Know?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Everybody knows because it's very popular. Anyway, It doesn't matter now,
I guess. But Energy Matter Transfer nineteen thirty three Paul
Durach Nobel Prize for antimatter Antimatters the directing's change between
matter and energy. If you find the frequency of anything
in courtnin Einstein quant the physics, you find the frequency
of anything, you can change its matter. So if they
(42:35):
can find the frequency through their vocal mechanism or through
some of the means, I don't know whatever, but if
they have that ability, they could go out of your perception,
go right out of whatever. Your visual perception, which we
only see within one in thirty seven and seventy terror hurts,
you know, that's our visual perception. So there you are.
I don't know what I was answering, but that was fun.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
It's kind of I was thinking of when a cat pers,
They say that a per that frequency will help heal,
and I have actually had that. So I used to
get really bad migraines. I don't get them nearly as
much now, but I used to have a cat that
when I'd lay down, he would lay down right up
against my head and per and that would help my migraine.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they have different eyesight ability.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Too, Yes they do.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah. A lot of animals can see things we
don't see. A lot of animals canna smell we don't
things we don't smell. Olfactory sense. I'm talking about not stink.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
You take dolphins, you know, they all have a way
of communicating, and I have abilities that fit with the
environment they're in. M where you think we're so everything
on this planet, but we're not so everything. We might be,
but we haven't learned to communicate with it yet. And
uh yeah, but every animal on this planet has the
(44:07):
ability to They seem to adapt to the environment they're in,
and will you make our environment adapt to us? That's
hey else, I never said that before. I was kindest
you just yeah, I just claimify.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
New phrase.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Well, we get cars, or we get somewhere, we get airplanes,
or we get somewhere where we make things, so they
happened for what we want. Well, uh, anyway.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Getting back to the frequency thing I'm also thinking of.
I've read a few things where pregnant women would be
swimming with dolphins and if they were having any morning
sickness or anything like that, the dolphins just apparently have
that frequency to be able to help with that sick feeling.
(44:56):
So it's just amazing what animals can do.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
It is John Ocean Or lives in Hawaii. She I've
been out swimming with her before. And this lady I
was with the time, I was also swimming and she
she had three dolphins just following around, and all of
us got back on the boat because we was through,
and she stayed out there for a while and we
was watching a tiger shark over off the side of
(45:22):
the boat, and she thinks the dolphins were protecting her
from that because the tiger sharks are hunters, you know,
they they will hunt you. So that was kind of interesting.
And John John Ocean has written up books too. She's
a doctor, very very nice person. Her and her husband John,
it's like star Trek something anyway, Uh, good people. They
(45:47):
live on a place in Hawaii, and we've stayed with
him over there. But it's it's interesting how how animals, Yeah,
dolphins especially, they're very smart. Octopus are very smart, you know. Yes,
they will change colors in front of your eyes, just
like a cubble fish or like the squid. I've dove
among the squid before, and those things are spooky. I
(46:08):
didn't realize how spooky they were when I was not
really Yeah, well, at night they come up closer to
the surface. I was down Loretto scuba diving and we
see those little boats out there at night with lanterns
in them. They were catching squid. They would they had
these lures that would hold up their little lantern and
(46:29):
they would glow fluorescea's you know, and they throw me
in the water. You could not not catch a squid
would They would hit them every time. And so we thought, well,
you know, well check this out. So we bottled over
and got down the coast about twenty miles. And because
there's there's not just a hundred squids one, there's millions
of squids. They're huge, and they when you catch them,
(46:53):
pull them up to your little boat. They would they
will those blackstuff all the reasons how the octopus doesn't.
And they change colors in front of your eyes. Really interesting.
And then we found out as we cut one or
two that my gosh, these these aren't little suction cups.
They're little teeth, little teeth on their tentacles there and
(47:16):
anyway you think.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
They're just harmless little section cups.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But well like doctor us, you know, but they're not
like that. Anyway. It's interesting, but they they change colors also, Yeah,
but it's it's interesting how nature adapts to or animals.
It's in nature adapt to nature except for us. Yeah, well,
(47:40):
we're adapting, I guess in a.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Way kind of forced nature to adapt to us too,
like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yeah, yeah, So do you think there's a new direction
that big research needs to move towards in the next
in the next decade or so.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Yeah, I think it's do now like that. They're already
they're already doing it. It's open minded us realizing there's
more going on these things than what meets are through
density adults. Yeah, just realizing there's more going on than
what they see. If you're touch it's not just in
the Tonian physics. It's working around us, in us and
(48:19):
through us. It's quantum physics. And it's not that hard
to excuse me to understand. It's you never totally understand
it because you're not meant to know the Indian universe.
Can anybody listening now know how far it is to
the end of the universe? If they do, I'd like
to tell me, because there's no way you can know that,
(48:43):
because how can it be something with no end? What
would it be or could it be? Anyway? That got
me kicked out of the science club one time I said,
how when someone give me an answer, everything's measurable, predictable,
and all that stuff like a quantum like anian physics says,
everything's measurable, predictable. Somebody tell me that it didn't happen.
(49:07):
So that's where quantum physics is. It's it's it's unpredictable.
It's just not measurable. It can be instantaneous or not.
And where antonio physics is a ball drops. Everybody knows
how that works. It can measure every part of the
ball as it's going down to the bottom. But in
quantum physics, it could be up here that can be
at the bottom or just like that without measure, without
(49:29):
nothing between. It's kind of like our telepathy works. See,
there's there's a part of quantum physics. We all have telepathy.
We all have those DAYSI vivies. We all have things
happen that we just don't know what's going on. But
that's where you don't just get stumped say well that's
I'm dreaming, dreamer or something. No, that's when you really
(49:49):
just need to look into it deeper. There's no such
thing as paranormal were fight. It's all works under the
rules of quantum physics. If you just look into it,
it's not a mystical, just annoying. Once you know more,
because you die for the fear, for the lack of knowledge,
you die, and we need we need always. Like I said,
(50:13):
when you're green, you grow, and your ripe you're rod.
So you just want to stay green and keep growing
and keep learning. And I say take things with substance
and not novels or these so proper things. They say
something nice about something, don't say nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
That's what my grandfather always said.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah, I got that other little kid on Disney and
I think it was I went to that big beard
something down there, and then the moose up on the
wall say, we goose are something good. Don't say nothing
at all. Well, that's true. And really, if you realize
that your words are vibrational frequencies, and your words are
so important, so you want to say what you want
(50:55):
and what you don't want. Don't get them saying oh
I feel horrible today, No matter what you really do
feel like, I don't say that because it just adds
to the energy that's going to be created. Because our
words are energy, they are powerful. And I think we've
got to learn to say things that you want. And
that's why you don't talk negative about anybody unless you
(51:15):
want to be that way, because that's what's going to happen.
You don't say those things because what if it doesn't
there somebody good? Don't say it, you know. That's why
that's my philosophy. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, like you said, if you're getting up in the
morning and you say I don't feel good, you know,
just sometimes what I like to say, is this going
to be a great day?
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Exactly? I did that. I did that every morning. I
tried to if I remember, I'm not feel the bad. No,
it's important to say those things because I don't get sick.
I haven't been sick in ages. Just because I say
I'm healthy, wealthy, I'm healthy, healthy, wealthy. I'm typed after
the universe because it's like I tell people, well, my
(51:59):
son is typed out to me. I mean, he's my son,
he's part me. Well, we are part divine creation, and
we don't know what that is. We call it God,
call it whatever you want to, but it's it's the divine,
the master creator. And I think I was working through
the ninth dimensional of an anarchy. Really and they are.
(52:22):
That's what we're designed to go to is the ninth dimension,
I believe, and there are other dimensions. I think most
aliens are in the fifth and sixth dimension unless are
going through the dimension of time, which is the fourth
I believe. And uh, that's all. I just all this
is my thoughts. Don't ebody take my word for anything
about here. Open the Burger Center reading you know, you
(52:45):
find it a lot of stuff starts making more sense
than you never thought it would. And the Cariniforum text
which are now there's thousands of them, you know, from
the from the Sumerians. That's the eye, that's the eye
opener right there, I think. But then away from who
you know, because people think God is somebody floating up
the sky or so it's going to count of our
(53:06):
hair on your head and all that stuff, Well that's
not necessarily who we're typed at. We're typed after the
divine being who created that. It's just that's my opinion,
and I believe that we're part of that, every human being,
and that's because of the way we were created and
(53:28):
because we're all hybrids and they tell us, yeah, well
we are. And big point is too but I think
they've been here. A lot of them have been here
longer than we have a lot of the homes sapiens. Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Some have been here all this time and have advanced.
And also a lot of them are crossbred and just
with indigenous people. So that's what I think the Patterson
film was, is a hybrid really diluted down from crossbreeding.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (54:01):
I guess more because you look at the tracks, even
the prince that came off, the patterns and trackway and
very human like, very human like. I got one of
those from Bob myself, and they're not They're not like ours.
Ours are bigger, they're more splayed, and they're they're that
way all throughout the years. You go up there, you
find the same track display figuration, figuration.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Gosh, I think you caught what I had with the tongue.
Speaker 5 (54:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, anyway, I have one more question for you, and
then it's the end already.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
If you had a message for new researchers entering the field,
what would it be?
Speaker 4 (54:51):
All right? I like that question? Who asked that question?
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I just did?
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Okay, okay, are you in your research? Sure? Know who
you are? As a human made very unique. Know what
kind of opportunity you have to be here on this
planet to experience things, and just learn how to respond
to experiences with a positive attitude, with love and compassion.
Don't get mad at anything, because nothing to be mad
(55:18):
about if you experiences because you had to learn something
and so learn something from it. Know this thing as
losing and you just you learn something from every experience
you got, and learn what good comes out of because
good comes out of everything. If you look for it,
you find what you look for. So look for the
good of people and have that vibration going on when
you go into the woods, because when you go in
(55:40):
the woods, if you really want an experience, just be
who you are, keep your frequency the right way, in
a positive manner, and then going with respect, and don't
try to trick anybody. Don't try to I've got a
whole group of things that I talk about as far
as what I worked for us up there at the time,
(56:00):
and that was, like I said, fifty years ago, but
it still works. I have people experienced using these techniques.
A lot of us look for the sounds of silence.
Don't be afraid that that's the hard one. Right there,
don't have here, because that's that's easier said than done.
Something tin twe foot all comes out and screens at
you know, you're probably gonna want to shoot at it
(56:22):
or something you've got a gun. That's what I think
was having in portlack Alaska when I was up there
was in that coming thing with the Discovery Channel. That's
just I think probably this thing where they were overfishing,
over over timbering, they were mining it. Everything you don't
do to an environment they were doing. And of course
(56:42):
again that was there. It was a late nineteen forties,
so no one's around you can really talk to you,
but you see pictures and you hear stories, and you
read the newspapers that were coming out then, and you
realize that, I think that's what was going on. Anyway,
Be who you are, be happy and grow and do
(57:03):
your homework. Homework, yes, and I have three books out.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Oh yes, please mention the books.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Oh oh, the film. Well, the film's coming out of
the Voices in the Willness. That'll be out there the
first of the year. Now, I got an audiobook coming
out another week or so. I should be on my
site Ronmorhead dot com. And uh, I'll be it speaking
at the Cornault this weekend. Uh twenty second, I think
it is of of this is remember yeah November?
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yes, no, Yeah, I'm getting my confused too.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
So that's uh, that's what I got going on this
podcast here and there when I got this today. Thank
you very much Cash for doing this, and I appreciate
being on. And if I talk too much, just tell me.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
And it's like we mentioned recorded.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, usually kind of a quiet guy, but when I
get on these programs, I really get enthusiastic about this
subject matter because I think the world needs to know
more about what's fixing to happen in this in this
in this world, things are happening, Exposures, fecks to happen,
UFOs are being seen more and more, aidens are being
seen more, Bigfoot is being seen more and more and more.
(58:18):
There's not one hundreds anymore comes to these There's thousands
of people come to these events. Now a lot of
people are interested in the subject matter, so they just
need to be be good, be happy and try to
help somebody else along the way.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
I also believe that just because two people researching any topic,
really if they have two different views, don't get angry
and see the other person full of bys, you know,
listen to each other.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
Yes, that's that's exactly right. I'm glad you said that. Yeah, yeah,
that's a very good thing to say. Never down somebody
else for having their opinion, and don't try to tell
somebody else what to do. You've suggested, suggested all day long,
but don't tell them because they've got to respond to
it themselves. That's part of the challenge. We're here as
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human beings to grow and learn from experiences. That's how
we get out of our third density. By the way,
you're going to send this third density environment, either this
one or another one, some of the planet somewhere until
you learn love and compassion. Definitely, that's all we're supposed
to be all about.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
Well, thank you so very much, Ron for being on
the show again. I really appreciate you taking the time
to chat with me and chat with the audience.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
Oh, thank you God. I appreciate a lot of fun,
a lot of fun. Thank you, exciting. Thank you for
having me.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Anytime, I'm gonna take you out of the studio, say
my farewells, and if you have a couple of moments,
we'll just chick chat for a couple of minutes. Okay, okay,
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behind the iconic Sierra Sounds. His lifelong journey began with
the search for a biological creature, but over the years
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has expanded into the mysterious and the etherel. Ethereal, I
always have a hard time with that word. From physical
evidence to high strenches and consciousness. Ron's perspective bridges both
worlds to join me as we explore his remarkable evolution
on understanding the Bigfoot phenomena. So welcome back, sir.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Thank you. Got good to be here. By the way,
you just put an E in front of cereal, got it?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Okay? Never thought of that.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Hey, that's clever, that's awesome. Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
First of all, I just want to say hello to
Heidi in the chat. Hello. She's from Boulder, Colorado, I
believe that is. And she says hello, Ron, Let's see
remember how to do this?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
There she is.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I just want to wait a couple of minutes. Until
some people sneak in. Some people, Oh hello there, how
are you nice to see you? He says hello to
Heidi as well. Yep, so Ron, because I don't always
go live. I always like to wait a couple of
(03:08):
minutes until people realize, oh, she's live at six. So yeah,
this is gonna be a great episode. Like I told you,
before we were recorded, I had some people message me
say how excited they were that you're going to be
on again.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This is what I love to do, and everyone loves
listening to you. So you're you're a fascinating gentleman.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh well, thank you for that. That's argument.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well myself and my haunted hearts, that's what I call
my listeners. They all say, so so.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Oh good, nice to hear.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Thank you, You're very welcome. Okay, So as people trickle in,
I'll highlight some of the questions that they have if
they have any and or comments. So let's just jump
into it. If you're ready, I'm ready. So when he
captured the Sierra Sounds, what aspect of the vocalizations most
(04:15):
challenged your scientific understanding?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
All of them? They were all they were very interactive
with each other, and of course when they started out
at the beginning, they were very aggressive sounding, so I
kind of got our attention a little more. You didn't
know what their intentions were, something new for all of us,
(04:39):
you know. So anyway, as they kind of calmed down
to where they were kind of chattering among themselves, and
that's where we got a lot of recordings time, and
as we're going up there several times, we started recording
more and more. It wasn't until Alan Berry went up.
There was an investigator reporter who ended up capturing the
ones with his record that he sent off and had
(05:01):
them analyzed by the University of Wyoming, and they showed
that they were legitimate. There was no playing in it,
you know, where there were real sounds and they were exceeding.
Actually they found out there a year long study at
the University of Wyoming that they were beyond the human range.
A lot of them were outside the human rangers put
that way. So what captured my attention to most was
(05:28):
the thought of them, what could they be? What could
they be? They're huge whatever, their voice is huge, and
the tracks we saw were they represented something very very big.
So you just don't know. I just don't know. And you, Yeah,
you're wondering all the time, wondering, wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You must have been excited like a kid in a
candy shop.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, I was. Yeah. I was twenty nine when the
started for me in nineteen seventy one, and it was just, yeah,
it was very exciting because I'm kind of adventuresting and
always have been at heart, and uh so I just
kind of got enthralled over it and got really excited
to being up there and when these things would come around,
(06:12):
I mean, I show it, but I was excited.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, the adventurous side of you, because I think, if
memory serves, you were a pilot, and I think scuba diver.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
All those Yeah, that pilot, scuba diver. All. I had
a ranch with horses, race. I had fourteen horses and
Arabian stadion, and uh quite well, if I wanted to
do it, I just did it. And nice I didn't
want to one these old guys. So I wish I'd
have done that when I was younger. So when I
was younger, I did it or tried. You know. I
(06:44):
had a good business and I organized it well and
had some good managers and I was able to spread
myself out and across the world and just went into
Peru and Bolivia and Russia and Siberia and Nepal and
all and always something new to learn, and I was
doing better. I had a really charmed life. I guess
(07:06):
you might say it's been excellent, and I'm just very
happy for it that I've had all the adventures that
I've been able to have and been able to make
them happen and actually and be here to respond to them.
That's what's important. It's not the issue that comes in
front of you, it's how you respond to it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, you're just very fortunate to be able to travel
to all these amazing places.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah. I worked hard as a younger man, I said
twenty nine and started. But prior to that, I was
really worked. I worked a lot. I didn't know what
fun was like. I didn't get the mountains, I didn't
do hard of anything till I met my good friend
Bill McDowell, who who was part of this hunting group,
and I got involved in that, and then all of
a sudden, my life just changed into Wow, I like
(07:54):
the mountains like this. I like these big trees and
springs and all the wilderness and all that stuff up
till then I was a pilot, but I got tooled.
I really wasn't involved in it walking around. Uh you know,
I look at the shrubs or something. When I was
a boy of. When I was a boy of in Alaska,
I did. I used to run the creeks up there
(08:16):
and family moose I could find.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So have you ever visited the original location and do
you see if you If you have, do you feel
the energy there has changed over over time?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Well? I visited. Yeah, the last time I visited was
twenty eighteen with the David Pilate's Missing four one one.
He wrote those series books and uh uh I got
and yeah, I was there and there were family up
to the camp. The last time I was there, the
whole California was on fire at the time and just
(08:54):
we weren't sure we were going to get out already get
packed in with the mule team, and there was pretty smoky,
but it was interesting. And he did about fifteen minutes
on his Missing for One that Hunted. I think I
got about fifteen minutes section on that DVD he made.
(09:15):
Interviewed me around the camp there, and yeah, well I
think David Johnson, one of the elders. His dad's passed away.
Warren Johnson was his dad. He took the film and
crew up there before last he before this one, I
think it was. And that's the last time I think
(09:36):
anybody's been up there, because I guess the trail a
lot of it's been messed up with the fires. In
the fires. Yeah, the fires and some trees everything makes
it kind of a a different looking area.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I guess, Wow, what does go ahead say?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
His face is still there, you know, the camp area
is still there.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And the big tree around the camp area there for
Sarah Akers didn't burn. They underburned, you know how underburn goes,
and this burns up everything underneath it. But the trees
itself did catch on fire. I didn't know that happened,
but it happened. I flew over it after the fires
in a little plane and just to look it over,
and I noticed that, you know, the camp area of
(10:20):
what we were didn't burn so much, at least from
the air, it did look like it had burned, but
you threw on the ground it had burned.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Lucky.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, So what's one detail from the Sierra camp stories
that most people still misunderstand if there's any.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, they don't realize the remoteness of it. The Negroes
that were going on there. Some people think we still
just backed up our truck with a case of beer
and had a party or something. But it wasn't like that.
And David Potis showed that in his video that you
know how hard it is and what kind of a
trip it is to get in there. And then when
(11:00):
the other coming crew went in here last year with
with David Johnson, he they realized just how bad it was.
You can't explain the ruggedness of until you've experienced this.
You know that I've had a few broken ribs off
that trail and just well, you get the horse or
mule or something gives you trouble and you've guys got
(11:22):
to have a good animal if you're gonna ride in.
If you're gonna walk in, you're okay as long as
you're in good shape. And but if you're going to
ride in, you really have better have a good trail
animal or you'll mess up, mess you up, or mess
himself up or something. And that happened with Scott Nelson.
The crypto Linguis took infuious back he his horse and
(11:43):
was give us trouble, and the horse I was wringling
along with them, riding the horse. Well that's not the story,
allgether all that, but it was. It was quite true.
I never didn't make it to camp, even though he
was trying to things happening on the trail.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I've only ridden a horse twice in my youth,
so and it's I didn't find it that easy.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Well you I thought you don't how to ride a horse.
Oh yeah, I ride a horse. Well that means I
got only said ponies in a little grocery store somewhere,
you know. Yeah, they don't realize how much you've got
to do sometimes to help a horse. You know, when
you're riding in it. You got to know how to ride. Yeah,
you know when they go up and when I go
down and lean back, when I grab his tail and
you put your boots between his ears and stuff like that.
(12:28):
You know. Well, that's kind of Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Trying to picture that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's almost like that. I used to like to wrangle
because if you ring on something, you can hold onto
the rope, you know, and and that pulls you backwards.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Okay, And that's a good thing if.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The horse is going on. That was pretty steep area
and a lot of switchbacks and different well, things to
watch out for up there. In any backcountry area like
that where a lot of people don't ever go, there's
a lot of things to know about. Anyway, That's that's
(13:11):
my answer. I guess that's the question. Forgot the question.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now, if there was any any details from the camp
that most people still misunderstand was the question.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But oh well, I don't know. Some people don't realize.
I think it's an actual cabin it was up there.
It was just a group of trees that grew in
a circle with cables wrapped around them and then dead
folding up against it. That's what the shelter was. And
then two trees was kind of wedged like to B shaped.
We had a lot a lot that we've proved between
(13:45):
that and then strap it and tie it on the inside.
So there was our doorway, and we packed and foamed
sleep on and our sleeping bags and Kevin barrels up there,
and same thing with our food. So when we did
have a chest walk in, we didn't have to pack
everything in. We're out and we could just leave it
up there, which isn't the case anymore. If you pack
(14:07):
it in, you gotta pack it out because in twenty
fifteen the Fortress Ever found out about the campsite and
made it made all had to be taken down, but
the spot's still there.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's interesting. So we have a question from Mike. Hello, Mike,
thank you for being here. He says, it's eight miles in,
isn't it to the camp?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Approximately? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Mike, Yeah, eight miles of course it comes. I think
Warren came up with that number, and then if I
kind of agreed with it, because it's a long trip
and if you're in good shape, you can you can
make it, okay, if you're walking, but your animal has
got to be in good shape too, because we used
to go up there the night before and camp the
camp the trailhead, and that way our animals got acclimated
(15:01):
to the altitude because it's about six thousand feet where
you take off and once you climbs are climbing, you
climb up to ten thousand feet and then back down,
up and down. Your animals, well, you all need to
be in shape. You're can make you trip. Just your
lungs alone, especially if you live in the valley floor
like like I did. I lived on syworkin valley and
just kind of a big change in altitude when you
(15:26):
start getting that lighter air.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, did you have any oxygen tanks with you or then.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It wasn't the thing. Then either breathe or you don't. Well,
my first trip up there with Donald, he took me in.
He's the one who got scared off, wouldn't go back
by himself. That's how I got involved, really because I
knew them all. But it was quite strenuous. Really. I
(15:53):
wasn't good, see, I mean I worked out all the
times to teach martial arts and stuff like that. I
was always doing something, you know, skiing oneter time, I'd
snow ski, summertime, I'd water ski. I just always act deep.
And I thought I was in really good shape. So
he took me up there, and I realized, you know,
when you walk from six thousand feet up to ten
(16:15):
thousand feet and in and out and back, it up
and down and the air makes a difference. And I
went into Colorado one time on adventure with some guys.
They took me up to ten thousands of feed and
we had a little oxygen bottles, you know that you
could take away and just off those are. That's what
you should do if you're new to it, especially because
that makes a difference. You can get some good air
once a while.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
How did the horses fair, Well.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It depends on how good they were, which works you had,
and yeah, what kind of shape they were in the
one trip I had where well that's no the story altogether.
But I had a horse that just went and cooperate
with me, and I bought him, paid paid two three
thousand dollars for him. Owner says, so good trail ready,
(17:01):
good horse grade. Well he wasn't that way at all.
It caused me some troubles. But you know that trail again,
you just don't take any horse up there. You got
to be a trail wise, I mean, you don't want
a horse is gonna get skitties every time a rattlesnake
or something on the trail or something like that. Well,
(17:23):
well it happened something. I got a hat down from
a fifty two inch trattlesnake up there. We had to
take out on the way. But anyway, it's the trip. Sure,
I don't know if I'll do it again or not.
But people ask me, you're gonna up there again? Well,
(17:44):
I don't have any reason to. I mean, something still
going on up there, I think according to David Johnson,
who went in, I think it's last year year before.
I'm not sure which now.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
With the interesting for you to go back.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well I might. You know, I would definitely ride in,
just because if I found a good horse or a
good mule. Meals are better than horses. Sometimes they're more sureful,
they're more they think about things. Or a horse will
just go off the cliffside of but a mule he'll
(18:22):
wait and you'll think about things. And meals are good.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Stubborn.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
But well that's why that's want to make some good.
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Where did that go?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
There?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It is?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Are there any biological traits you still believe bigfoot possesses
despite the more mysterious aspects.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Well in different ones than what I mentioned before. I
think they possess. I think we possess everything they possess,
except we just haven't learned to connect with it properly.
You know, we have. We have not been short changed
as a human species. We've been given everything that they
have been given, which I think something created them that
(19:09):
just give them something extra that they someone is God,
and they know how to connect with nature. They know
how to connect with their vocal mechanism to create frequencies.
And we have got all those things. We just well,
one thing we may not have. If they've got more
vocal cores than we do, which that's been suggested. They
(19:32):
would suggest to me one time they have seven different
sized vocal seven dif vocal courses. We have two, and
that means that that could mean a lot right there.
I hypothesize that probably possibly they have ability within their
vocal mechanism to create a frequency that would change their
matter and energy back and forth. And that's basically what
(19:55):
you we noticed. Cloaking or disapperiance is what they do
to just go out of your visual range. And that's
that's set between four hundred and thirty and seven and
seventy terror hurts is our visual light frequency. Anything outside
of that, you know, like an eagle can see a
rat from two miles away and go down and get it. Dolphins,
(20:19):
everything speaks to each other and talk to each other,
and they have different attributes to get them through this
this environment that we're in. We haven't set a bunch
of attributes that we're born with. However, we have more
inside of us that we're actually created for. We just
that's what I think. The Master's todd in the ol
Dase was Christ. He said, you know, God is within you,
(20:40):
and he started doing a lot of miracles and things,
and he said, you can do all this too. Well,
I'm not walking on water yet, you know, and years ago,
if I learned how to turn water into wine, I've
been bad shape today.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Probably, I think a lot of people will be in
trouble that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But actually Einstein, and of course it's been established mathematically
and quantum physics that you can find the frequency of anything,
you can change its matter. So there's a lot going
on with sound frequency. You're healing now, and you can
find the right frequency you can. If you know the
frequency of the item you're dealing with, you can change
its matter. And I think that's how a lot of
(21:22):
miracles are done. Quote unquote. Miracles are just things that
we can do that we haven't learned how yet. And
you do that through I believe, through meditation, through just
allowing just what we have in is to come out
and to be complete and that's what chokers, I think
are all about, and things like that, balancing yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So let's see if there's anything I just want to
bring up what Mike brought up. I do believe most
of Bigfoots do have their special abilities, but also believe
some of them have lost it or just lost the
practice of it. Do you believe that's true, Ron.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yes, there, I answered that one quickly.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I think a lot of them across bred with indigenous
people over the eons of time. That's been noted in
a lot of Native American lower too. They take their
women and they crossbreeds that make them more human like,
more like us, and they would either their abilities have
been recessed sometimes or just lost or I don't think
they're lost, but they're recessed, and just like ours are recessed,
(22:31):
they're in there. It's just we're got to learn how.
And I think that's what the young ones are here for,
when young brig puts, because they seem to have a
training field here when when they are born in this density,
this their density, they have to learn how to get
along in it. But they also have to not forget
who they are and not not overlook what their abilities
are like we do. We just we don't believe them.
(22:53):
Sometimes we live in the Tonian world think and everything's
something you can touch field, see here, here, you gotta
you gotta have those attributes to think it's real. Well,
there's more going on. There's just a lot more going on,
and if you get into quantum physics, you realize even
like Christopher Breyer, West, tex As, I am. He says,
(23:13):
everything from the atom through the cosmost works and the
rules of quantum physics, well used to be years ago.
Quantum physics was considered only in the microworld, you know, No,
it's throughout the universe. It's everything. So we're right on
the back of Etonian physics quantum physics, but it's it's
what's prevalent. If you learn how to work it and
what's going on, you know what it's really all about.
It's not quite so mysterious, not quite so paranormal, not
(23:36):
quite woo woo, there's none of that. It's just something
to understand. And I think we all have to have
to open our minds up because you've got to have
an open mind for this stuff. You won't get it
if you don't have you've been trained and conditioned throughout
your life from the time of birth to just think
this is what's real and this is what's not real.
And you're your condition that way, and you've got get
(24:00):
away from that, not not away from it, but to
add to it. I can't get away from it. You
live in it. H That's my answer.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
To and Mike again. I know when they leave our
dimension dimension time is that, if I'm reading that correctly,
definitely slows down. Oh yeah, when they leave our dimension,
time definitely slows down. They showed me that with a
dead animal. And the only reason why I know where
the animal comes from because it was a neighbor's puppy.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Oh oh wow, poor puppy.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah. I think, well, when anything steps out of our
third density, it gets into the fourth, which is time
or or even empire. I ben know where your where
your frequency is, but yeah, time is different. Then that's
been established by the astronauts in space. And I'll.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Uh oh, I seem to have lost mister Morehead. Let's
see we can bring him back.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Sorry about this, people, my people. Let's see, I'm gonna
have to message him here. I do apologize for this.
I don't know what happened. Okay, so just messaged him.
(25:35):
Hope that he can get back on. Yeah. Oh no, Heidi,
I know just when it's getting good. Uh let's see
nothing on my end? Mm hmm, Nope, I don't think.
I just want to make sure that it's not me.
But ope, there is. I think. I apologize for the
(26:04):
technical difficulties. Everyone move and hmm, well, please be patient everyone.
We'll see if Ron can come back. I do hope so,
because I have received quite a few messages saying that
(26:28):
how much they are looking forward to seeing Ron on here,
and so it's nice to get feedback like that. So
I could probably say that uh Ron is a fan favorite.
Oh nope, popped out again? Oh jeepers. Okay, so I
(26:49):
could start dancing a jig for you. I won't sing,
it's not good. Anybody have any questions or comments in
the meantime while we hopefully get mister moorehead back onto
the stream here, anybody, anybody? Nope, let's try that again.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
There, Sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It's okay, I got three phone calls.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Got to do something about that. I usually think about that,
but I didn't think about this time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, worries there's always technical difficulties with podcasting.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well that's not technical. Let's just not be an alert
on my side.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
No worries.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You made it back, I did.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Do you believe bigfoot interact with humans consciousness intentionally?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Okay, Now more to that, they got the right frequency
going on. These things are able to reach the frequency
and mentally talk to them, and that's called mind speak,
I guess it called I've never had that happen to me,
and I know that's because I'm so analytical, you know.
I got to figure out come into my head what
(28:07):
made me think of that? And I never even considered
that back in those days. But I think that's why
I got the voices recorded that we recorded so much,
because they wasn't able to mind speak to me. And
I say not able. I wasn't able to relax enough
to listen. But that way, because I think if I
had all that to do over again, I would have
(28:28):
done a lot of things differently. But who knows. You know,
here I am oh man now and I and all
should have good. It's a stuck coast on But yeah,
mine speakers was just basically entanglement and quantum entanglement. And
that's how it's called the universal We're all part of
(28:52):
a universal consciousness. And you see birds, you know, flocking
up in the sky all together moving all I want
in the same way the cash and the ocean, you know,
sprewing together, and they're not talking to each other. You know. Yeah,
we have this ability to actually we just would turn
lost and let it happen. We can, we can mentally
(29:15):
connect with other people.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's amazing. Yeah, I've heard a few people. There seems
to be more and more people talking about the mind
speak that they have with and that we just didn't
hear about many years ago. So just makes me wonder,
why are people just vibrating at the same same as
the bigfoot vice versa.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, I think they can pick up your vibration,
you know, just like an animal. A lot of animals
do that. My horse could tell which way I was
going to go, just for me thinking about it, about
me cure anyway, anyway with my knees or anything, you know,
he would know which way I want to go on
the trail or something. And animals have a way of
reading the aura, sensing the energy around you. And I
think these things have that same ability. Well, I'm sure
(30:04):
they do, pretty sure. And yeah, they're unique. Whatever they are,
they're unique, and they're not all the same. I got
to say that right a minute, all this because I
don't think they're all the same kind of except what
are all the same species? I'm not sure they're all
the same species. I think we've been visited by a
(30:26):
lot of aliens over the past, over the yards of time,
and then we're talking about hundreds of thousands of years.
A lot of hybridsation things are going on here from
advanced intelligences and they have just hybridized a lot of things,
a lot of things, a lot of species here now
are hybrids from probably an alien species that visited the planet.
And that's what we are too. Really get into all that,
(30:48):
but deep enough, you got to get in the Mesopotaian
into Samerian texts and understand what's really being said, how
things happen, like our ancient texts, our Bible and things
like that. That was raised with the Bible, and that's
that's the word of God. That's that's all you can
go by. Well that's been has been gone through conditioned minds,
(31:08):
you know, and from Constantine and the King James from
sixteen eleven. How Satin started that, you know, Roman pemperor,
like that's what Constant Nobles named after him, you know,
but he started to not seeing Kree and a lot
of people heard about that, well that I got all
the religions into one place so that he could control
and uh So anyway, h I get where I was
(31:32):
going with that. But like I said, I just ramble on.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So so let's see, has the journey changed? How could I?
How could I weard this? How has this journey changed
your spirituality or philosophical? Philosophically? I really can't speak tonight,
(31:55):
I apologize. So has the journey changed you spiritually? Your
physical good.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Grief physically or spirituality or philosophically? I have a lucky
I got through that one. Well, yes, I mean I
don't think it's changed me. Just had me to grow.
I think I grow and and you guys got to
keep learning and digging into things. Because the curious mind's
(32:23):
a very very good mind to have. And I've always
been curious about stuff, and the stuff that happened in
the Sierra camp was very very h well mystical, so
I had to figure it out. So it keeps you looking,
keeps you looking, keeps you looking. So being raised spiritually,
I mean being raised religiously. I knew scriptures quite well.
(32:45):
I knew. The first thing I started doing when I
ran into this stuff was I looked at the bout
where giants come from. Well, you get into the fallen
angels and the nepheline and all that stuff, and is
that true? Well, wow, there's all kinds of stories about giants,
all of them world, all kinds of cultures have stories
about giants. But when you get into how some of
(33:08):
those ancient Texas ancient text was manipulated and changed for
control over the popular you find out that there's a
lot of differences when you get into canaaniform text, which
is the cuniform of canaform I want to pronounce it.
That's the Siberia Siberian gosh, I didn't have enough of
(33:30):
lune chest restaurant or enough profit too much? Maybe talking
to no the uh ananochy. A lot of people have
heard that.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Oh yeah, it gets in.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The cuneiform text was given us to the Samerians. Sa
Marians wrote it downs for oldest known known written language
known to us, and it goes right back to thirty
four hundred and fifty to BCE, and you get into
that and you see how a lot of the words
and texts were because they just got just got translated
in eighteen hundreds, by the way, but you can still
(34:05):
see how it's been changed because it's all the languages
written languages came have a core from that, including Hebrew.
And when you get into how that has been gone
over the eons of time, hundreds and hundreds of thousand years,
you just get you realize how much has been going on,
(34:26):
and all things that were mentioned in the first five
six chapters of Genesis took several hundred thousands of years
in the According to home a Testament, it falls in
identically to I mean, when you're can Nial and Enoch,
if not Enoch Inky, any of those two brothers half
brothers and they I mean the mirrors, a lot of
(34:48):
things that were been said in Genesis, and you getting
into the deluge there flood. Just about all cultures all
over the world have records of that. U I just
encourage anybody to start deler into it if you have
an interest in it. If you delve into it, you
find all this stuff, And it's really, really, really a
(35:10):
lot of interesting stuff and entertaining tories. I can't get
into something if I'm not entertained by it or understand
something about it. I just I can't read novels and
things like that and Mary mess with Up with Joe
or something like that. You can't. It doesn't interest me
unless it's got some substance to it, you know. I
(35:30):
like substance. Stuff with substance.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So globally there are similarities. So like you got Sasquatch,
YETI Yowie and so many other different names in North America?
Are these creatures all the same creature? Do you think?
And then just because there are different parts of the
world that have a few little differences.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well there's yes or no on that one. I don't
think they're all from the Chambe, you know, from the
same maker, let's put that way. But like I said,
I think several types of advanced entities have visited this planet,
and they've done things to different species on this planet,
Bigfoot being one of them, us being another one. If
(36:17):
you want to get into the Naky story, I supposedly
created us. Think he'd had a passion for humans. That's
what made us so good, right, But then you got Emil,
who was the warring species. They fought a lot like
the two brothers in the Bible, and you got to
look into you so fun. But anyway, that's what made
(36:41):
us what we are. But then our telomeres are it's
determined when we lived so long, up to one hundred
and twenty years, supposedly were cut off and done with. However, man,
you still live a lot lot longer, and that's pretty
much recorded. And I think because the day it was
a lot different on this planet prior to the deluge too.
(37:04):
A lot of animals were bigger, men were probably bigger.
Everything was bigger. But I think that's got something to
do with the denisity of the air. I think it
all changed when when the terraforming took place. That was
probably twelve thirteen thousand years ago. But as far as
I'm all being the same, I don't. In my opinion,
(37:26):
they're not. But they could have a common they could
have a common denominated back way back, way back way
back somewhere. But lucky the ones in Nepal, up in
the Himalayas. There, they're shorter, they're about six foot and
five and a half six foot, but they're really robust,
and yet they're mitochondrial. Shows they got human in them.
(37:49):
So just about all these things when you get a
quality DNA out of them, which isn't done very much
because most genesis won't touch the subject, but it shows
the medical which is the maternal side, is a lot
of human. He is a human component like we have.
So most genesis or scientists will say, well, it's been contaminated.
(38:11):
Well that's not necessarily true. Perhaps it was, but I'm
not sure. No, I don't think so, not all of it.
I think probably there's a human component in them. It's
like as a human component of what we were dealing
with up there in the sierras. And I'm established that.
I think from a professional standpoint. You get doctor Kurlin,
(38:34):
professor of electro engineer in University of Wyoming, who established
their vocal mechanism was different than our superior They could
make the sounds that were inside, outside, below, and above
what we can do with humans. The average human. He
would analyze that of the one that he thought compared
to human was over a foot tall, well that's from
our sounds. And he got Scott Nelson, crypto linguist, two
(38:57):
time graduate of the Foreign Language Institute, montereyco for the military.
Had occur in the military as a crypto linguist listening
to unknown languages or unknown dis codes to see if
there's anything going on with for the military, and they
retired when into school teaching or foreign languages Russian and
Persian and all that stuff. Anyway, he's a crypto languist
(39:19):
that got ahold of these by accident. And he said,
there is a language, but then sounds that you guys recorded.
So you put that together with doctor Current saying, well
they represents something all right foot tall. Then you got
card Nelson, professional crypto linguists and they have a language.
Well language is very very important, which we didn't know
at the time just how important it was. But if
you think about it, you got doctor Lieberman, Brown University,
(39:43):
Philip Lieberman. He says, only humans have that ability to
speak like we're speaking now, only humans. You put those
three doubts together, it kind of gives you a picture
of something. It has to have a human component unless
you want to argue with the professionals, because I don't
argue it. I just say that's the facts. In fact,
(40:03):
the facts.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's interesting what you mentioned earlier. I never even thought
of the vocal cords where you mentioned that they have
more vocal corde vocal cords than we do. I never
even thought of that before.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
We don't know that.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It's just been suggested to me, okay, because you.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Get you find one and analyze unless you could, unless
somebody somewhere can tell from the tapes that we have. Uh.
Of course, like the whistles that we have recorded, and
we didn't record it infra sound or ultra sound. We didn't.
We had a look a set records. It's all we're
used up there, and uh. But the whistles we got
(40:41):
were established through the studies that they were done through
the vocal mechanism and not the lips. Like through the lips,
and you got the throat singers, you know, which are
prevalent in different parts of the country, who can do
this stuff like two different tones at one time. You
got to wonder just what the abilities are, Like I
mentioned earlier bout the size that maybe just maybe they
(41:02):
can create a frequency with their sound mechanism that would
allow them to go out of our visual perception. Because
if you take any tone, any tone and go the
forty ninth ought to you it will turn into light.
That's something I true didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Know, No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, and there's people say, hey, I've seen the Bigfoot.
Then I've seen the ball a light shoot off. You
know the light I've seen that. I heard that. Be
guys back to Renaissance. The people that are doing my
movie in the ser camp. Now, I have got a
man and his son who saw just that and they
reproduced it very well, and sure where they was looking
at the Bigfoot and then it just went down into
(41:44):
a ball of light and shot off. Well, that's energy.
Energy matter transfer with doctor Paul Durak got the Nobel
Prize in nineteen thirty three. I stocked to Ronnie Labac.
That's easy, the ones on that program TV series was
and he's into the same thing I am, because he's
seen some pretty intigmatic things or anything in that series.
(42:08):
Why do you think that series? You don't know? Do
you do?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Know?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Everybody knows because it's very popular. Anyway, It doesn't matter now,
I guess. But Energy Matter Transfer nineteen thirty three Paul
Durach Nobel Prize for antimatter Antimatters the directing's change between
matter and energy. If you find the frequency of anything
in courtnin Einstein quant the physics, you find the frequency
of anything, you can change its matter. So if they
(42:35):
can find the frequency through their vocal mechanism or through
some of the means, I don't know whatever, but if
they have that ability, they could go out of your perception,
go right out of whatever. Your visual perception, which we
only see within one in thirty seven and seventy terror hurts,
you know, that's our visual perception. So there you are.
I don't know what I was answering, but that was fun.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
It's kind of I was thinking of when a cat pers,
They say that a per that frequency will help heal,
and I have actually had that. So I used to
get really bad migraines. I don't get them nearly as
much now, but I used to have a cat that
when I'd lay down, he would lay down right up
against my head and per and that would help my migraine.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they have different eyesight ability.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Too, Yes they do.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah. A lot of animals can see things we
don't see. A lot of animals canna smell we don't
things we don't smell. Olfactory sense. I'm talking about not stink.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
You take dolphins, you know, they all have a way
of communicating, and I have abilities that fit with the
environment they're in. M where you think we're so everything
on this planet, but we're not so everything. We might be,
but we haven't learned to communicate with it yet. And
uh yeah, but every animal on this planet has the
(44:07):
ability to They seem to adapt to the environment they're in,
and will you make our environment adapt to us? That's
hey else, I never said that before. I was kindest
you just yeah, I just claimify.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
New phrase.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Well, we get cars, or we get somewhere, we get airplanes,
or we get somewhere where we make things, so they
happened for what we want. Well, uh, anyway.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Getting back to the frequency thing I'm also thinking of.
I've read a few things where pregnant women would be
swimming with dolphins and if they were having any morning
sickness or anything like that, the dolphins just apparently have
that frequency to be able to help with that sick feeling.
(44:56):
So it's just amazing what animals can do.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
It is John Ocean Or lives in Hawaii. She I've
been out swimming with her before. And this lady I
was with the time, I was also swimming and she
she had three dolphins just following around, and all of
us got back on the boat because we was through,
and she stayed out there for a while and we
was watching a tiger shark over off the side of
(45:22):
the boat, and she thinks the dolphins were protecting her
from that because the tiger sharks are hunters, you know,
they they will hunt you. So that was kind of interesting.
And John John Ocean has written up books too. She's
a doctor, very very nice person. Her and her husband John,
it's like star Trek something anyway, Uh, good people. They
(45:47):
live on a place in Hawaii, and we've stayed with
him over there. But it's it's interesting how how animals, Yeah,
dolphins especially, they're very smart. Octopus are very smart, you know. Yes,
they will change colors in front of your eyes, just
like a cubble fish or like the squid. I've dove
among the squid before, and those things are spooky. I
(46:08):
didn't realize how spooky they were when I was not
really Yeah, well, at night they come up closer to
the surface. I was down Loretto scuba diving and we
see those little boats out there at night with lanterns
in them. They were catching squid. They would they had
these lures that would hold up their little lantern and
(46:29):
they would glow fluorescea's you know, and they throw me
in the water. You could not not catch a squid
would They would hit them every time. And so we thought, well,
you know, well check this out. So we bottled over
and got down the coast about twenty miles. And because
there's there's not just a hundred squids one, there's millions
of squids. They're huge, and they when you catch them,
(46:53):
pull them up to your little boat. They would they
will those blackstuff all the reasons how the octopus doesn't.
And they change colors in front of your eyes. Really interesting.
And then we found out as we cut one or
two that my gosh, these these aren't little suction cups.
They're little teeth, little teeth on their tentacles there and
(47:16):
anyway you think.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
They're just harmless little section cups.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But well like doctor us, you know, but they're not
like that. Anyway. It's interesting, but they they change colors also, Yeah,
but it's it's interesting how nature adapts to or animals.
It's in nature adapt to nature except for us. Yeah, well,
(47:40):
we're adapting, I guess in a.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Way kind of forced nature to adapt to us too,
like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yeah, yeah, So do you think there's a new direction
that big research needs to move towards in the next
in the next decade or so.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Yeah, I think it's do now like that. They're already
they're already doing it. It's open minded us realizing there's
more going on these things than what meets are through
density adults. Yeah, just realizing there's more going on than
what they see. If you're touch it's not just in
the Tonian physics. It's working around us, in us and
(48:19):
through us. It's quantum physics. And it's not that hard
to excuse me to understand. It's you never totally understand
it because you're not meant to know the Indian universe.
Can anybody listening now know how far it is to
the end of the universe? If they do, I'd like
to tell me, because there's no way you can know that,
(48:43):
because how can it be something with no end? What
would it be or could it be? Anyway? That got
me kicked out of the science club one time I said,
how when someone give me an answer, everything's measurable, predictable,
and all that stuff like a quantum like anian physics says,
everything's measurable, predictable. Somebody tell me that it didn't happen.
(49:07):
So that's where quantum physics is. It's it's it's unpredictable.
It's just not measurable. It can be instantaneous or not.
And where antonio physics is a ball drops. Everybody knows
how that works. It can measure every part of the
ball as it's going down to the bottom. But in
quantum physics, it could be up here that can be
at the bottom or just like that without measure, without
(49:29):
nothing between. It's kind of like our telepathy works. See,
there's there's a part of quantum physics. We all have telepathy.
We all have those DAYSI vivies. We all have things
happen that we just don't know what's going on. But
that's where you don't just get stumped say well that's
I'm dreaming, dreamer or something. No, that's when you really
(49:49):
just need to look into it deeper. There's no such
thing as paranormal were fight. It's all works under the
rules of quantum physics. If you just look into it,
it's not a mystical, just annoying. Once you know more,
because you die for the fear, for the lack of knowledge,
you die, and we need we need always. Like I said,
(50:13):
when you're green, you grow, and your ripe you're rod.
So you just want to stay green and keep growing
and keep learning. And I say take things with substance
and not novels or these so proper things. They say
something nice about something, don't say nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
That's what my grandfather always said.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah, I got that other little kid on Disney and
I think it was I went to that big beard
something down there, and then the moose up on the
wall say, we goose are something good. Don't say nothing
at all. Well, that's true. And really, if you realize
that your words are vibrational frequencies, and your words are
so important, so you want to say what you want
(50:55):
and what you don't want. Don't get them saying oh
I feel horrible today, No matter what you really do
feel like, I don't say that because it just adds
to the energy that's going to be created. Because our
words are energy, they are powerful. And I think we've
got to learn to say things that you want. And
that's why you don't talk negative about anybody unless you
(51:15):
want to be that way, because that's what's going to happen.
You don't say those things because what if it doesn't
there somebody good? Don't say it, you know. That's why
that's my philosophy. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, like you said, if you're getting up in the
morning and you say I don't feel good, you know,
just sometimes what I like to say, is this going
to be a great day?
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Exactly? I did that. I did that every morning. I
tried to if I remember, I'm not feel the bad. No,
it's important to say those things because I don't get sick.
I haven't been sick in ages. Just because I say
I'm healthy, wealthy, I'm healthy, healthy, wealthy. I'm typed after
the universe because it's like I tell people, well, my
(51:59):
son is typed out to me. I mean, he's my son,
he's part me. Well, we are part divine creation, and
we don't know what that is. We call it God,
call it whatever you want to, but it's it's the divine,
the master creator. And I think I was working through
the ninth dimensional of an anarchy. Really and they are.
(52:22):
That's what we're designed to go to is the ninth dimension,
I believe, and there are other dimensions. I think most
aliens are in the fifth and sixth dimension unless are
going through the dimension of time, which is the fourth
I believe. And uh, that's all. I just all this
is my thoughts. Don't ebody take my word for anything
about here. Open the Burger Center reading you know, you
(52:45):
find it a lot of stuff starts making more sense
than you never thought it would. And the Cariniforum text
which are now there's thousands of them, you know, from
the from the Sumerians. That's the eye, that's the eye
opener right there, I think. But then away from who
you know, because people think God is somebody floating up
the sky or so it's going to count of our
(53:06):
hair on your head and all that stuff, Well that's
not necessarily who we're typed at. We're typed after the
divine being who created that. It's just that's my opinion,
and I believe that we're part of that, every human being,
and that's because of the way we were created and
(53:28):
because we're all hybrids and they tell us, yeah, well
we are. And big point is too but I think
they've been here. A lot of them have been here
longer than we have a lot of the homes sapiens. Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Some have been here all this time and have advanced.
And also a lot of them are crossbred and just
with indigenous people. So that's what I think the Patterson
film was, is a hybrid really diluted down from crossbreeding.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (54:01):
I guess more because you look at the tracks, even
the prince that came off, the patterns and trackway and
very human like, very human like. I got one of
those from Bob myself, and they're not They're not like ours.
Ours are bigger, they're more splayed, and they're they're that
way all throughout the years. You go up there, you
find the same track display figuration, figuration.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Gosh, I think you caught what I had with the tongue.
Speaker 5 (54:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, anyway, I have one more question for you, and
then it's the end already.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
If you had a message for new researchers entering the field,
what would it be?
Speaker 4 (54:51):
All right? I like that question? Who asked that question?
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I just did?
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Okay, okay, are you in your research? Sure? Know who
you are? As a human made very unique. Know what
kind of opportunity you have to be here on this
planet to experience things, and just learn how to respond
to experiences with a positive attitude, with love and compassion.
Don't get mad at anything, because nothing to be mad
(55:18):
about if you experiences because you had to learn something
and so learn something from it. Know this thing as
losing and you just you learn something from every experience
you got, and learn what good comes out of because
good comes out of everything. If you look for it,
you find what you look for. So look for the
good of people and have that vibration going on when
you go into the woods, because when you go in
(55:40):
the woods, if you really want an experience, just be
who you are, keep your frequency the right way, in
a positive manner, and then going with respect, and don't
try to trick anybody. Don't try to I've got a
whole group of things that I talk about as far
as what I worked for us up there at the time,
(56:00):
and that was, like I said, fifty years ago, but
it still works. I have people experienced using these techniques.
A lot of us look for the sounds of silence.
Don't be afraid that that's the hard one. Right there,
don't have here, because that's that's easier said than done.
Something tin twe foot all comes out and screens at
you know, you're probably gonna want to shoot at it
(56:22):
or something you've got a gun. That's what I think
was having in portlack Alaska when I was up there
was in that coming thing with the Discovery Channel. That's
just I think probably this thing where they were overfishing,
over over timbering, they were mining it. Everything you don't
do to an environment they were doing. And of course
(56:42):
again that was there. It was a late nineteen forties,
so no one's around you can really talk to you,
but you see pictures and you hear stories, and you
read the newspapers that were coming out then, and you
realize that, I think that's what was going on. Anyway,
Be who you are, be happy and grow and do
(57:03):
your homework. Homework, yes, and I have three books out.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Oh yes, please mention the books.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Oh oh, the film. Well, the film's coming out of
the Voices in the Willness. That'll be out there the
first of the year. Now, I got an audiobook coming
out another week or so. I should be on my
site Ronmorhead dot com. And uh, I'll be it speaking
at the Cornault this weekend. Uh twenty second, I think
it is of of this is remember yeah November?
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yes, no, Yeah, I'm getting my confused too.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
So that's uh, that's what I got going on this
podcast here and there when I got this today. Thank
you very much Cash for doing this, and I appreciate
being on. And if I talk too much, just tell me.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
And it's like we mentioned recorded.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, usually kind of a quiet guy, but when I
get on these programs, I really get enthusiastic about this
subject matter because I think the world needs to know
more about what's fixing to happen in this in this
in this world, things are happening, Exposures, fecks to happen,
UFOs are being seen more and more, aidens are being
seen more, Bigfoot is being seen more and more and more.
(58:18):
There's not one hundreds anymore comes to these There's thousands
of people come to these events. Now a lot of
people are interested in the subject matter, so they just
need to be be good, be happy and try to
help somebody else along the way.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
I also believe that just because two people researching any topic,
really if they have two different views, don't get angry
and see the other person full of bys, you know,
listen to each other.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
Yes, that's that's exactly right. I'm glad you said that. Yeah, yeah,
that's a very good thing to say. Never down somebody
else for having their opinion, and don't try to tell
somebody else what to do. You've suggested, suggested all day long,
but don't tell them because they've got to respond to
it themselves. That's part of the challenge. We're here as
(59:09):
human beings to grow and learn from experiences. That's how
we get out of our third density. By the way,
you're going to send this third density environment, either this
one or another one, some of the planet somewhere until
you learn love and compassion. Definitely, that's all we're supposed
to be all about.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
Well, thank you so very much, Ron for being on
the show again. I really appreciate you taking the time
to chat with me and chat with the audience.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
Oh, thank you God. I appreciate a lot of fun,
a lot of fun. Thank you, exciting. Thank you for
having me.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Anytime, I'm gonna take you out of the studio, say
my farewells, and if you have a couple of moments,
we'll just chick chat for a couple of minutes. Okay, okay,
So a huge thank you to my special guest for
on Morehead tonight and to you, my win audience for
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