Sabine Blais: Sasquatch of Quebec and Gatineau, Ottawa Sasquatch Conference - Paranormal Heart - Fringe Radio Network

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Welcome to Paranormal Heart Podcast with host Catward. Hello, everyone,
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your host, Catward. Thanks so much for hanging out with
us today. So, folks, my special guest tonight for segment
forty seven is from Quebec, Canada, Sabin Bleh. Sabin is

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the founder of the Eastern Canada Sasquatch organization and organizaci Sasquatch.
A lifelong enthusiast of Sasquatch and the paranormal. Her curiosity
began in childhood through shows like In Search of Unsolved
Mysteries and was fueled by the famous Patterson Gimlin footage.
An avid outdoors woman, she combines her love of nature

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with her passion for research in the Gatineau Hills. Subin
also practices and teaches energy healing, explores Pagan's spirituality, and
runs a craft business, the Sasquatch Trading Company. Tonight, Subin
will be discussing not only her humble beginnings with all
things paranormal, but the upcoming first annual Gattin Know Ottawa
Sasquatch Conference that will be held August twenty third, twenty

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twenty five, which I'll be attending with a friend. So
I am so so excited that we finally have something
Canadian here, so please help me welcome Sabin. Hello, Hello, Hi,
it's so nice to meet you, and thank you so
much for accepting my invitation and folks, this is her

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first interviews, so you heard it here first Paranormal Heart podcast.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Hi, Well, thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
It's my great pleasure. So before we get into the
conference that's going to be coming up in a couple
of weeks. Actually, by the time this is recorded, or sorry,
by the time this is released, it'll be just in
a few days. So this will be released on the nineteenth,
and it is on the twenty third for the conference.
So can you tell us your humble beginnings on how
you got into all this sasquatch and paranormal things.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
All this started for me like in early childhood. I
was growing up in the nineteen seventies and I saw
the Patterson Gimlin video of the Sasquatch walking, and that
video back then was circulating quite a lot on television
and they were discussing it. I also watched some documentaries.

(04:54):
There was a show with Leonard Nimoy called In Search
of and I would watch that a lot. And there
was an episode on Bigfoot and that really captivated me.
I started reading books on the subject. I was very
interested in the paranormal. I like anything a little bit supernatural,
like you know, content houses and encryptids and all that.

(05:14):
So the sasquatch thing really pulled me in. It was
really interesting at the time. Bigfoot research back then was
not developed like it is now. There was less information,
but I tried to read as much as possible. So
growing up I kind of kept that interest, but you know,
I moved on to other things, and it's just only

(05:37):
later in life that this came back to me and
I felt like, Okay, now I need to do a
little bit more and start doing some research myself, because
in my region there is no There isn't a whole lot,
you know, in terms of bigfoot research and all this
awareness and and information in general. So that kind of

(05:57):
motive been motivated me to to start doing this.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, like I told you before we started recording. As
soon as I saw on Facebook that there was going
to be an event, I was so excited because, like
you and I discussed, in Canada, we don't really have
a lot of conferences like that. There might be some
UFO conferences, but in this that's oh good grief. There's
paranormal bigfoot like there's everything in the States, and it's

(06:23):
about time that we have this. So thank you so
much for starting this.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Absolutely, yeah, there is a need, like we were saying,
like I find in terms of bigfoot sasquatch in the
eastern part of Canada, there's a lot of gaps. Like
in Quebec, it's very little discussed. I think there's a
there's a lot of fear, ridicule. The subject is kind
of taboo. Nobody wants to talk about it because people

(06:48):
are afraid of sounding crazy. There's also a language barrier
in Quebec. It's it's mostly Francophone. Some parts of Quebec
people do not speak any any English, and all the
informations in English because it's all either American or it
comes from British Columbia, like Western Canada, so there isn't
much information in French really, so I think there's a

(07:10):
need to do something bilingual, do something from the province
of Quebec. There's a huge amount of Bigfoot sightings in Ontario,
especially Northern Ontario. There's a lot of sighting reports. There's
active organizations in Ontario. We don't hear much about them
or at all. There's a lot of like hidden you know, invisibility.

(07:34):
You know it's not seen enough. So I think so
people think it's just not there. When I tell people
there are Sasquatch in Quebec. There have been sightings. I've
noticed some signs and gat No Hills. That's where I
do a lot of my research, and people are shocked,
you know, people don't people never realize that we could
have this here in Quebec, you know. So that's part

(07:57):
of the awareness. So the conference is going to help
a lot. It's going to bring people in.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
And I'm really happy it's a bilingual conference too, because
as I my a lot of my audience know this,
and I told you I'm originally from the East Coast.
I'm Acadian, so I just speak French, but I lost
a lot of my French. So it's it's really it's
great that you're doing something in bilingual because, like you said,
there's not a lot of Bigfoot research in French. So

(08:24):
let's hope that this will be the floodgates will open. Now,
let's hope exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
And in my organization, well, I actually started to to
to really represent the Francophone uh. I started the Eastern
Canada Sasquatch organization and I do the Quebec one with
this again, Sasquatch Quebec is just to really represent all
over Quebec because the French language is important, but what

(08:52):
is I find is also very important in the subject
of bigfoot sasquatch is the is the emphasis on indigenous
culture because working with indigenous groups and listening to the
tribes and listening to their ancestry, their ancestral knowledge. They

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have a lot of oral tradition that's passed on. And
of course, in pre colonial times when there was just
you know, first nations everywhere, they had a lot of sightings,
they had encounters, they may have traded with these beings,
you know. So I think it's important to listen to

(09:33):
indigenous people and their culture and work with them. That's
what That's what I like to do a lot, is
to stay in tune with with that because it's very important,
you know, it's part of connecting with the land also.
So there's that whole aspect that's important. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
I had Thomas Seward, Oh is that how you pronounce it?
I'm sorry, Thomas, Yeah, on the show, and he spoke
about how if anyone indigenous out in BC, for example,
experience bigfoot in the in the forest, I'll just say hello, brother,
I wish you well in peace.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
There's just so much of respect for the he refers
to them as people the other tribe. Yeah, and I
really like that approach because I feel that if a
lot of people had that same approach, there wouldn't be
so many aggressive encounters with bigfoot because I do believe
that it's also your intent and they can they know

(10:38):
what your intent is, they know what your energy is.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And that's another thing like in the
scope of my research and my organization, I align a
lot with that the Native indigenous beliefs regarding the Sasquatch,
I view them as very sophisticated hominids are much more
human than animal. I consider them people. They are tribes

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of people. They're just different from us. I know a
lot of researchers, especially in the States, they seem to
believe that they're animals, and you know, we can just
run after them and chase them around. And my approach
to them is peaceful. It's also friendly. When I go
in the woods, it's the same thing. Is just to

(11:26):
put out a peaceful intention and be respectful because that's
their territory, it's their land right and until I have
proof of the opposite. As far as I'm concerned a Sasquash,
I consider them people. There are people. They have a
very sophisticated intelligence. I think that they understand symbols. A
lot of the structures I've found out in the Gatine Hills.

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It's not just a big house for a sasquash to
curl up and sleep in. There are actually a lot
of geometric shapes. They look like symbols to me. I
found a lot of exes, a lot of of bold
arched trees. People will say that was just a waight
of the snow, But the way that the tree is bent,
it's hooked. It's literally hooked. It's someone with hands the trees.

(12:12):
Some of these trees are quite big. It's hard to
bend those trees, and they're bent, and you can see
that they're hooked. It's almost like they're tucked in. I
think that be.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Sorry, how high up would that be?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Some of them are as high as four feet when
the tree is bent over four feet three feet four feet,
But the trees are pretty thick, Like I couldn't bend
those trees, you know, because they don't bend that easily.
And since I go into different areas in the Gapno Hills,
I cover like a very large, large range of different

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territories and terrains, you know, I go up in the mountains,
I go closer to the city. Some of my areas
are suburban, even within the city limits of Gapno. And
sometimes I go like pretty far out north and I
find similarities. I find very similar structures. I find the
similar bent trees, bow trees. I'm finding broken branches, some

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thick branches, like trees. You can see that the tree
was snapped. It wasn't chopped or sawed. It's like it
was broken pretty high up, like's say, at a height
of six or seven feet, and the tree is snapped.
No one is strong enough to bend and break a
tree like that. So that's a clue. Also, it's not proof,

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but it's definitely something worth noticing. I found some twisted
branches also, so you find those. And you know, I'm
finding like patterns in some of the structures I find
so clearly like they do that and they make these
geometric shapes out of certain branches and things, so they

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understand symbols. That's what it tells me. They communicate. They're
putting up road signs, they're putting up you know, it's
almost like a form of writing.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Have you determined yet what this gear? What these symbols represent.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Some of them are obvious, like the ex for example,
to me, I interpret that is do not cross. Another
thing I've noticed is that they tend to take an
entire tree, like a tree trunk with the branches, like
some of these trees are big, and they wedge them
between two other trees. The tree is like kind of
wedged to form, almost like a fence. It's almost like

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a way to kind of block access, you know, do
not enter. So those are the most obvious ones. Others
I'm not sure exactly what it would mean. That's why
I need some some more some more outings and get
a feel of it. The you know, a lot of
the indigenous people they say that the Sasquatch are telepathic,

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that they have telepathic abilities, they can mind speak, they
can They're very very sensitive with energy. I've noticed that too.
I felt watched. I felt I'm hiking in certain trails
and all of a sudden, I feel a pull to
go a certain direction and don't go there, go here.
You feel watched. I've smelled them a couple of times.

(15:16):
I think they were like not too far. You know,
they're very observant. They watch you, they hide if you're
not aware of their presence, will never know they're there.
You know. I go there with that awareness, so I
know what they expect, and I know what to look
for because I pay attention. You know, I find a
lot of this. There's a lot to do with just
paying attention, and you'd be surprised how close they come.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah. I wonder how many times I've been in walking
out in the woods in my lifetime and didn't even
know when was there. I mean, yea. So many people
are like, well, there's no they go out in the
woods all the time and they don't see anything, And
I tell them it doesn't mean they're not there. I mean,
how many times have you walked in the woods and
actually seen a deer or a raccoon in the woods?
You know they're there. Oh, yes, I go to see them.

(16:04):
So it's the same thing with sasquatch exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
And just the fact that they intentionally stay quiet, they
strategically avoid humans.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
They keep a certain distance, yet they remain very attentive
and observant. Animals don't normally do that. I've come across
a bear and got no park and believe me, the
bears they're they're there there. You can hear the snapping,
the crunching sound, and then they're running off. Like you know,
black bears are very skittish. We're very lucky we don't
have to deal with grizzlies, which is why I'm I'm

(16:38):
able to hike alone, because otherwise I wouldn't go out there.
We don't have to deal with with with big cats,
and we don't have to deal with you know, grizzly bears.
But bears in general, you can hear them. They're not
going to stay quiet and strategically, you know, observe you
and and and stay out of sight.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Animals when they're running off, they're running off. They don't
they're making noise and they're just running you know. So yeah,
so there's a there's a certain method. Go ahead, Yeah,
there's a they have a certain method of remaining in stealth.
I fan staying quiet.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yep. Well, much respect to you for hiking by yourself,
because I don't think I'd be brave enough to do that.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah. I find it's better for a lot of reasons.
When you hike alone. There's no talking, you can hear better,
you can hear different sounds. I always keep my ears
and I follow my senses. I check for smells and
I check for sounds. When you're someone else, often you
hear the other person's footsteps. There's gonna be some talking,

(17:46):
it's inevitable, you're gonna You're gonna be even if you're whispering.
It's distracting. M I like to be completely in tune
with my surroundings. And UH also pay attention to other noises.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, And I feel that if you're by yourself, your
senses are a little bit more heightened as well. So
are you're going to be able to maybe hear or
smell something that you might not have noticed before was
somebody else with you?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Exactly, exactly, yeah, exactly. And the first time I have
smelled the smells right that was last fall. It was
in September, and it was actually not far from where
I live. I live in the town of Gatno. I
live at the edge of the forest of Gatnell Park.
You know, I live right next to an old farm.

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I don't know if you know more farm, the more
estate farm. I live in that area, so I'm I'm
very close. And I went into the woods like in
Gatno Park, and I wasn't too far away when I
was hiking, and then I've hiked that trail before, and
when the smell hits you, I was like, oh, I

(18:55):
guess maybe there's an outhouse nearby. It's it smelled like
a neglected, uncare outhouse. You know, it smells like pecal matter.
People say it smells these smell really bad. There's a
smell of something that died mid little bit mixed in it.
And the smell was like, oh, what's that like? Oh

(19:16):
you know, I was like, it's really off. It just
throws you off, you know.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
And it gets your attention.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, it smells like, okay, something died nearby. But I
walked and then I walked like maybe just a I
don't know, maybe uh, twenty feet and then the smell's
gone hmm. And then I turned around and came back
and the smell was still there. And then you know,
so it was just like a specific pocket where that

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smell was and then it just and then further down
when I went further ahead and the trail, I went
to the end and I turned around and came back,
and I was like quite a distance from what I
originally was, and then oh, that smell again. It was
just one second, you know, but just enough to let
me know it's like, whatever creating that smell, it's not
far from me. And I was like, oh, you know,

(20:06):
there's no outhouse where I was, There's no you know,
so that that was just interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Sounds like it was probably following you.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Probably that's what it felt like. It felt like another
time I smelled them, and it was a different smell.
It did not smell like that. It'd smelled more like
an equine odor like horsey, smell like a barn. Yeah,
those are the smells that I've picked up. And I
went to another area. I was actually inside gat No Park,
because I go inside gat No Park, then I go

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out further north beyond, you know. I tried to vary
my places, and yeah, I've smelled that a couple of times,
not too often, but last fall. These seem to be
more active in the fall for some reason, because during
the summer it was like, yeah, I got some science.
I've actually got something weird on camera in a video.

(21:00):
I actually like got a frame from that video and
it's like, okay, was that you see a dark head
in the trees that wasn't there previously so, but the
smells are peculiar, and for in terms of vocalizations, there's
very little. I've heard some some whoop calls. It does

(21:25):
not sound like Ron Moore heads. I don't know if
you heard his recordings, you know, it's like, you know
that that that kind of ap thing. It sounds more
like a very soft howl. It's like and then it stops.
It's like very very low key. You know, they're they're
quiet here. Uh, they seem to mimic owls. I find

(21:49):
that I was out on broad daylight and you hear
something that sounds like an owl, but not quite you know,
and uh, I've actually recorded one of.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Those out during the daytime. Sorry, go ahead you yeah,
yeah that too.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like it was in broad daylight and you're hearing something
that sounds like an owl, or I'm hearing this kind
of odd, odd owl. It's it sounded like a whoop,
but not the full extent like what you hear in
the recordings in in the States. It's like very very soft.

(22:26):
It's like they're trying not to be noticed. So I
don't know, I've heard that two three times and I'm
waiting to see if I hear it again, so I
can definitely try to figure out. I've heard coyotes, I've
heard wolves, I've heard some large animals. Gat No park,
we don't have moose. It's not often moose come here

(22:47):
because it's too close to civilization, you know. It's not
like Algonquin Park, you know, which is bigger they have
They have more variety of animals. You have some more
remote areas. But yeah, so it's just interesting, you know,
it's these are things that are worth noticing.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
So when you when you had the smells, because you
you also do energy work, did you actually pick up
on anything? Did you Uh, I'm trying to put the
words together, like did you sense any like intuition?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And yes, when I smelled the smell the first time, Actually,
the horst thing happened the first time. I was bent
over because I found a wedge tree where it was
it was previously not and I'm like, okay, what's that
tree doing? Wedge there? You know, those things are big,
they're heavy, they have branches and it's like clearly wedged.

(23:39):
You know, you have to be big enough and strong
enough to lift that tree and just hook it there,
you know, kind of like lean it onto other other branches,
and then I noticed on the ground the ground looked disturbed.
I didn't see any clear footprints. There's no I can't
say there were footprints, but the ground was kind of shuffled,
like someone was shuffling or dragging, and that that kind
of track went into the into the woods next to

(24:03):
next with beaver bondage kind of disappeared in the trees,
and I just went and I bent over to look
at this this wedge branch and figure out who put
that there and why. And it's when it bent over
and I got this horse smell. There are no horses.
There's no barn, there's no riders nearby, there's no farms
in the area where I was. There's none of that.
So I'm like, okay, I knew right away that that

(24:24):
horse smell was completely out of place, and that told
me there's something somewhere that left that smell, and it
was it was very odd. There's no smell like horses,
so you know, so you know, it's just question marks.
It's like, okay, you know, the hint is there, but yeah,

(24:45):
the the weird the weirdness, and saying, okay, this is
not this doesn't look normal. You know. So it's just
take note in document and yeah, I keep a log
of all my my outings. When I go out, take
a lot of pictures and videos, and when I go home,
I review footage and I review everything pretty much as

(25:06):
much as possible. And it's it's always after I notice
things in pictures, I've spotted a couple of things, a
couple of anomalies and video, so it's, uh, I just
document and save everything, and so eventually you can piece
things together. You know, it's like a puzzle, and it

(25:27):
helps to identify patterns, you know, things that that resemblances
from one region to the next. You're finding common things
and with others. Also, I have a friend of mine
who's who's out in the region also and she she's
gotten things that look similar to what I found. So
you'll see, you'll you'll see meet everybody at the conference

(25:48):
because we're all going to be there, so that there's
going to be a lot of I think, some similarities
and in certain observations.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Well, I find that I've said countless on the show
that the thing with paranormal and when I first started
the show seven and a half years ago, I thought
paranormal just ghosts. But then I realized, no, it's cryptids,
it's UFOs and aliens, you know, high strange it is.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's all.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I call it the paranormal garden because you can have
many different types of gardens. You can have a rock garden,
a flower garden, you know, something for food, but there's
still gardens. And it's like that with the paranormal. You know,
they're they're different, but they're still still paranormal. But the
thing that fascinates me the most is no matter where
you go in the world, for generations, people are talking

(26:34):
about the same experiences and you know, like for Bigfoot,
you have Yowie in Australia. There are similarities. There are
also some differences too, but the similarity is just uncanny
around the world. So something has to be happening.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Definitely. Yeah, Yeah, there are a lot of resemblances and
a lot of things that seem to resurface. People who say, well,
we've never found any bones or skeletons. Some people say, well,
we found fossils of dinosaurs. How come we never found
bones of that. Well, first of all, the sasquatch is
not a dinosaur. It's not the same thing. And Second

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of all, like a lot of a lot of people
will will advance the theory that they they are people,
and they may.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Bury their dead like we do.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Like we very are dead. We have a concept of
funeral and afterlife and a whole emotional grief that goes with,
you know, death. If they are evolved and sophisticated hominids,
you know they're they're advanced enough, like I think they are.
I think they're actually more intelligent than we are in
certain ways. They're much more adapted.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
They why would they not bury their dead, you know,
I don't see why they wouldn't have like a concept
of the afterlife and an understanding and go through the
same processes we do.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Yep. And like I said, how many times have I
been in the forest, and I'm fifty eight years old,
I've only found one deer bone. It was a leg
bone in the Ottawa Valley in the forest, but it
was on the edge of a lake, so there's water there,
so that that was several years ago. I've only seen
that once in my lifetime. So it's not so unusual

(28:23):
to say, no, we've never found any remains, because I've
never found bear remains or anything like that and I
know they're there.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, well they descended also over time, I guess they disintegrate,
you know, so you walk in the same for me,
when I walk in the forest, I don't see the
ground is not littered with skeletons and kill sites and skulls,
and yeah, you know, once too, I went to a

(28:50):
bell and there too, I found like some some remnants
of a deer. I found some deer bones, you know.
But that's not often and it's not it's not it's
not common, not that common.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
So yeah, exactly, I haven't been out in the woods
in a long time, but yeah, I've only like I said,
I've only found one leg bone of a deer in
all my times. So yeah, yeah, so fascinating. So when
people talk about bigfoot in the United States, depending what
part of the states, they have different temperaments. Some locations

(29:27):
they seem to be docile, some locations they seem to
be really aggressive. They have different appearances that could have
different fur colors. Is it like that in Quebec too,
do you know?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I would say, yes, it's hard to tell because there's
not a lot of there's not so many sightings here
sighting reports. But my first initial answer would be yes,
you know, there's different kinds like and I've read all
the reports that are out in the States and out
Western Canada and everywhere all you know, like the types

(30:01):
of descriptions that witnesses give, and I'd be inclined to
think that there's many, many different subspecies of sasquatch. There's
different types of hominids, which is why there's so much discrepancy.
Some people see them as very apish, more animalistic, you know.
Others see them more they have human faces. Some people

(30:22):
have heard talking in the woods. They hear voit like talking,
not just growls. So I think it's just because they're
so different. There's a big variety. There's a lot of
diversity among them. Some people see different hair colors, some
people see the different behaviors. I get each one would
react more differently depending on what they are exactly, the

(30:45):
variety aggressive behavior that goes with the situation. I think
maybe some would be more prone to be aggressive. That's something, honestly,
I don't know know that if you if you don't
respect them, you can expect you know, and you're always trespassing.

(31:07):
Of course, we go in their woods. We're basically trespassing, right,
and so they may not like that. And I think
it's if you take their food that will trigger them
a lot. You know, a lot of the aggressive encounters
you'll see the person was either picking berries or fishing
or hunters. You know, those are the ones who seem

(31:32):
to have the most can I say, unwelcoming reaction from them,
you know, the standoffs and everything. So I think if
you go in their in their territories and you you
start taking their food, you can expect that a little bit.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
But it depends if they have young around too, that.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Too, that too, especially if you're close to their their
their families and stuff. That I can imagine that and definitely,
but the diversity amongst them, yeah, I would say, yes,
there is a diversity because you see some scientists, uh,
some scientists in the States, they're going to say that
they're animals and they're descended from from a prehistoric giant ape,

(32:21):
you know, gigantopitickus. That that that theory, you know, So
they're animals and they're they're you know, they live like animals,
and they basically breed and they have mating seasons like
animals and stuff. And I don't know if that's the case.
Maybe some of them, I don't know. I don't view

(32:42):
them like that. And the way they're able to pick
up on your energy, these sense energy. I know that
they're very very they're very intuitive beings. So I think
they're just too intelligent just to just to call them animals.
They're much more complex than that. Yep, yeah, they're much
more complex, So I go ahead, No, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
So I had another guest from BC, Chucky Danger. He
has he had a different approach to researching Bigfoot. He
believes that they can see UV. So he has actually
shown how there's a lot of things that we like

(33:26):
leaves or plant life, under the proper lighting, they actually glow,
which is pretty fascinating. He feels that bigfoot can actually
see not just like we do right now, but they
can see in ultraviolet light as well, and I found
that was really fascinating. It's a different, different approach. Yeah, yeah,

(33:48):
so that's when I was a kid, we used to
hear about bigfoot, you know, but they didn't have all
these abilities. There were just a big hairy ape maybe.
But now all of a sudden, people are sitting, they
can teleport, they can camouflage themselves, kind of like the
Alien and Predator movies, you know, the Predator when he

(34:11):
can you could see a little shift in the in
the trees or whatever, and that's when you realize, oh,
something's kind of invisible. Some believe that they're aliens from
a different planet. Do you believe all that as well?
Like why all of a sudden they went from just
a simple ape to all these abilities. Do you have

(34:33):
any opinion on that?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Well. I think generally the awareness and the research of
Bigfoot has developed and evolved a lot over the past.
It's been decades now, since the nineteen fifties when they
were just look tracking an animal, you know, it was
like kind of that pattern, and now it's opened up more.
I think it is just because there's more information. There's

(34:56):
also a lot more openness to holistic holistic energy awareness,
you know, like the New Age stuff like reiki and
all the the you know, there's more awareness, and I
think some people have picked up on on their abilities
that they're not just animals, that they can they can communicate.

(35:20):
Like I say, some people hear them talking. Uh, these
seem to have a very developed intuition. It's like they
know who you are, they know you're coming in the woods,
they know they can mind skeep speak. Indigenous people have
been saying this for a long time already, but now
it seems like there's more more openness and more awareness
to the the metaphysical side of the Sasquatch, right, the supernatural,

(35:45):
where before it was kind of more like just the
scientific thing and there was very little knowledge, so it
was just like an animal on two legs, yep, and
that's it. And now people are kind of coming making
that full circle. So there's more openness with respect to
the Sasquatch being extraterrestrial, having extraterrestrial origins. I mean, hey,

(36:07):
it's possible. I don't know, to be honest, that's the
best answer I can give. But I'm open to the
idea because it would make sense as to why there's
something so unusual about their their their abilities, their capacities,
especially with the the the intuition, but also the their

(36:27):
understanding of things. You know, there's something very unearthly about
them in a sense, you know, Like I'm like, I
just say their home, and it's because that's the best
closest explanation I can give of what they are is
the most seems the most plausible. But there is something
otherworldly about them. So I've seen and read about that,

(36:49):
people saying that there may be some some extraterrestrial origins,
and it's possible. You know. I don't refute that, and
I don't I don't think that's weird at all. I
honestly don't know. Like I say, it's possible. I haven't
explored that too much. I'm still there's so many there's
so much information, and there's so many things to figure out,

(37:12):
you know.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
So what I've heard a lot also is some people
saying that the Sasquatch is an interdimensional being, that they
can shift between dimensions. That too, for me, is very possible.
It would make sense that they can cloak themselves somehow,
they can dematerialize. I've read some witness reports. Actually one

(37:37):
was here in northern Quebec, and a couple others were
in Yukon where witnesses saw a Sasquatch. They saw the
being and it literally vanished in front of them. It's
like they can dematerialize the see the see the Sasquatch
becoming transparent and just kind of like vanished. And this
was also reported in the States. So actually there's this

(38:01):
bigfoot researcher in the States. I think he's very, very good.
His name is Tom Powell. He's in Oregon, and he's
written books on the subject. And his first book, uh, okay,
my mind just blank. The locals there you go. That
was that book. I read, highly recommend that book, and

(38:23):
he dedicates almost the whole chapter on that. It's like
these these abilities that he seemed that they seem to
have to either disappear vanish in front of witnesses. They
seem to move across dimensions, they can move in stealth. Also,
this strange thing with them is about people finding only
one footprint instead of finding tracks. You know, some people

(38:47):
they find just one footprint, or they find a set
of tracks, and then they stop in the snow and
then there's nothing else. There's no sign of the the
of them turning around or going in another direction. The
tracks stop and vanished. It's like there's nothing. So that's interesting,
you know, and it wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise

(39:08):
me that they can do this. You know, they're they're
I don't want to scare people with that word, but
you know, I think there's something somewhat magical about them,
you know, their abilities in terms of like from a
metaphysical standpoint. You know, it seems to me that the

(39:29):
the understand the concept of shifting energy. You know, they
can move shift energy around to achieve a certain effect
or result, you know, which is you know, in my books,
that's like a magical process, right, that's like a spell.
I'm a pagan myself, so I understand that.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
So yeah, it's interesting, it's interesting. There's a lot to learn.
And I think they they are going to teach us,
you know, they're they're they're teachers. They're guiding us once
we're ready. Yeah, exactly. And I think us humans, you know,
we we we're behind them, you know, to be honest,

(40:09):
I mean you look at them. They they can live
outside three all year round. They're outside twenty four to seven.
They don't wear clothing. You know, they're perfectly equipped and
adapted to live in extreme conditions with very little. You know,
the hunt with their bare hands. They don't need to
make fires. They don't make fires anywhere, even in winter.

(40:32):
You know, they're perfectly adapted. You know, they have their
their they have their things, you know, so do they
come and go between this dimension and another one? Maybe
that would explain the disappearing thing. There's so many questions,
you know, there's a lot to learn.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
There are researchers in Australia who believe that yahwee in
Bigfoot when they can teleport, it's a learned thing. The
children don't know how to do that. So that's why
sometimes if you see there's a family and they're just like,
why didn't they disappears because they're not going to leave
the children behind because they haven't learned how to teleport yet.

(41:11):
So I thought that was a very interesting outlook on
that as well. It was the first time I heard
of that. How don't make sense though?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, that is very interesting.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
M actually yeah, and it was really go ahead.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, it was just it was just it's funny what
you just said reminds me about about how in California
also they found was it something like a UFO or
a shipwreck of some sort, there was something in the
ship that that that there was some something about a

(41:52):
Bigfoot or a sasquatch that was seen and they were
wearing something. Anyways, I can't remember this story, but I
think there there were some signs and they found some
some links between UFOs and bigfoot, like in the States,
David Politis, he was big on on making that connection.

(42:12):
How there was were in areas where there were a
lot of Bigfoot sightings there was a lot of UFO
sightings as well. It's like the two were tied.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
So yeah, I have some dear friends Al Santa Riga
and Brian Bowden over in the States and they've done
a lot of boots on the ground investigating, you know,
it's not just armchair investigating and researching. And they have
done the uh what's that called when you get a
group of people and you're trying to call UFOs. What's

(42:45):
that called? I can't remember, But anyways, they have said
that they've several times encountered UFOs orbs in the in
the in the woods as well as Bigfoot, so that
I feel there is a correlation to that.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Mm hmm. It's possible. I'm very open to that.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
And we don't we don't have concrete evidence, so there's
so many speculations. But I think the research is getting
to be more. I think we're getting closer.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
We are we are, I think we are getting closer.
There's more openness despite the negativity and the ridicule and
all that. That's that's that's always there. But I think
there's more understanding. Uh, there's more openness even about this

(43:42):
whole supernatural metaphysical thing. There's a lot of researchers like
they don't want to deal with that. You know, they
call it wu when they shut it out. You know,
it's science and that's it and there's nothing else. And
there are animals, you know. There there's still in that,
in that kind of like you know, mindset, in that
mindset exactly. But I think a lot of us are

(44:04):
open to that. And I think what sets us apart
here in Canada, well this part of Canada anyways. I
can't speak for the West as opposed to our American counterparts.
Is that I know from my perspective is I do
not attack people who disagree with me. You know, if
the person tells me that the sasquash there there, what

(44:28):
do they call them seraphims or they call them like
they're like a type of fallen angel. Hey, that's what
that's your constead, your perception of them, and it's it's fine.
I don't see that, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Nephlim is that the word?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yes, thank you, yeah, Netpholem, sorry, said Seraphim.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Yeah, I was like, wait a minute, that's not right.
I know what she means.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I don't know what I'm saying anymore.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's a bit.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah. I've heard that too, people saying that they're nephilim, Like,
I don't, I don't know. I don't. I don't feel that.
I don't. I'm not connected to this, but that's what
the person believes. Hey, that's fine. You know. I see
them more as hominids with very very special abilities and
a very very high energy. You know, That's how I

(45:11):
see them. But I think it's important to keep an
open mind and not attack one another. It's not a competition.
I don't think it's a race. You know. Some people
they see it like there's a race, and who's going
to be the one who's going to make the big
cut and convince the scientists and the sasquatch becomes acknowledged

(45:31):
and then I'm going to be real famous, you know,
that kind of ego. And I don't do that. And
people are allowed to, you know, have their own theories
because there's nothing, there's nothing to prove the opposite of something.
You know, you can't do that. And you know, it's

(45:52):
like if a person thinks that the sasquatch or aliens
or extraterrestrials or their their interdimensional who am I to
go and say, well, you're crazy, that's not true. Prove it.
You know that there's no there's none of that, There
is no bigfoot, that they don't exist, you know, and
and start ridiculing the person, and you know, start going
into the humiliation, which we're seeing a lot. There's a

(46:13):
lot of bullying and negativity around the subject. And there's
a lot of bullies out there. So sure, yeah, that's
why I want to uh do something positive friendly, even
if we don't agree on a certain on a certain
on a certain thing. You know, I know a lot

(46:33):
of researchers out there, they're they're they're a bit more
rigid and less forgiving that way, you know, like what
we're talking about, they're gonna call it the wo. I
don't know if you heard that term. It's just the wo.
And then they brush it off and then they they
don't want to deal with that. And I think we
need to have these conversations because it's there. You know,
energy doesn't lie, it's not going away. You know, we

(46:54):
are energy. If we're alive, it's because we have a
certain energy that keeps us alive. That's what makes is
different from a dead body. And you know it's there's
an energy there. You can't deny it. So we need
to have these conversations and keep an open mind. You know.
That's how I see it.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
I feel, Oh, yes, yes, that's a big one. I
feel that no matter what views are on Bigfoot, no
matter like you said, if you agree with someone or not,
people should be having these conversations because it's kind of
like brainstorming. If everybody believed in the same thing, you're
not going to get anywhere's with your research. You have

(47:31):
to go beyond and if one person has this one
point of view and this other person has another point
of view, why not explore it together. You might be
able to find the holy grail of information for Bigfoot.
That way, instead of just bullying people and shutting people down,
just everyone who needs to work together and discuss their
point of views and do more research like that.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Absolutely, it's like over the years, and I was shocked
when I read that. Actually that over the past decades
there have been some major developments in sasquatch DNA, and
there were some scientists who actually came up with the
sequencing of the DNA of sasquatch based on some possible samples. Actually,

(48:18):
Melba Ketcham did that and David Politis, and they received
death threats for it. Melba Ketcham like they blasted her.
Oh yeah, she was lambasted, and she basically turned down
two conferences where she was supposed to present her findings

(48:39):
because she was getting death threats, and so did David Politis.
They threatened him. That's how bad it was during the
nineteen nineties on a subject of DNA. I mean, if
you come up with the you sequence bigfoot DNA or
sasquatch DNA, and your findings tell you that the sasquatch
are hybrids, that's what they found. That's what That's what

(49:02):
David Politis was saying, is that the sasquatch is a
human hybrid. They have human genes and they're mixed with
another unknown home in it. That's what they came up.
And if I don't like your research, well I guess
I'll say, well I don't agree with you, that's all,
and just move on and try to do better or
find something better. I'm not going to go and threaten

(49:23):
to kill you. It's like stop talking or else and
destroy your reputation. Yeah, and there's been a lot of that,
you know, but there has been some advancement advancement in
the Sasquatch DNA, but there's so much there's so much
fighting over it. So I think it was kind of
a band in Melba Ketchum's research. I mean, some people

(49:43):
say it worked, and some scientists were able to reproduce it,
but I think there's so much hostility towards her. Even now,
there's so much hostility you just bring up her name
and the anger, the big reaction. You know, people refuse
to talk about it, which is you know, it's like again,
we need to talk about this, you know.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Yes, like it or not? I mean, and if you
find that people start talking about something that they don't
agree with, maybe they'll either prove or disprove what that
other person is believing and move on and look, you know,
research some other aspects.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
You no need to be so aggressive, you know, it's aggressivity,
you know, it's like yeah, no, for me, it's important
to just take calm and peaceful and just do your
own thing, leave other people alone. You know, it's not
it's not that hard. You know, it's like the Sasquatch. Also,
you know, I'm not gonna I'm not one of those
people who's gonna pick up a gun and try to

(50:41):
shoot one to bring to end the debate like some
people want to do. It's like, no, we're not doing that. Yeah.
My approach is peaceful, respectful, and I think there's there's
room for some you know, you know, you you you
do this with some positivity. I think it's going to
open a lot of doors. It pays off in the end.
And just being patient. You know, it's not every day

(51:03):
you're going to go out there and find something. I
found something because there's nobody out there and gat No
Hills or gat No Park like actively researching in my
neck of the woods. But you know you have to
be patient.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Definitely. Yeah, we have a few more minutes and I'd
like to talk about the conference and who your speakers are.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Yes, yes, no, I have some great speakers. I actually
ended up with more speakers than I expected. So the
day is going to be very busy. It's going to
be speaker after speaker after speaker. It's like kind of
back to back like that. A lot of my speakers
it's going to be their first time speaking at a conference.

(51:45):
We have people from Ontario and Quebec. So the speakers
are to begin with there's Derek Martin who's from London,
Ontario and he's the co founder of Bigfoot Canada. And
then we have Lindsay Quote who is from Timis Kimming

(52:06):
and Northern Quebec. Him and his wife are coming. They
are artists and indigenous elders and they will also perform
the opening ceremony. We're doing a smudge and then they're
going to do some drumming songs and you know, bless
and inaugurate the event. After Lindsay's presentation, we have Silverlings Photos.

(52:30):
Her real name is kit Lea Bross. She is a
wildlife photographer and she's from right here in Quebec in
the region. She's in the eastern Uraway region ye Petita
Nacion and she's going to be sharing her findings. She
has some fabulous photos, so she's gonna have a lot
of content to show us. And then we're going to

(52:50):
break for lunch for half an hour and when we
come back we are going to have Ontario Sasquatch, which
is going to be very prominent speakers. Is Peter Smith
and Christine Burns of Ontaro Sasquatch. They are coming from
North Bay. They have been doing research and witnesses investigations

(53:14):
for at least over ten years and they are also Indigenous,
so they have that background. You know. Their approach to
the Sasquatch is very peaceful. Also they work with intuitions,
so they have a lot of members. And after we
are going to have Kevin Tracy of seeking Ontario's Bigfoot.

(53:37):
He's coming from Niagara and his organization is affiliated to
Ontario Sasquatch, but they're in southern Ontario. He's going to
come and share his findings with us. And then we
have the Bora elect who was also from Bigfoot Canada.
She is right here in Ottawa. She's our Ottawa researcher

(54:00):
and experiencer. She's also amittee. She has a craft she
ever kraft venture called Lollies and Button Bites, and she
is going to talk about her experiences with the savvy
that's how they call them. And we'll have a son
Bow a true brother. I've heard of him, yes, yes,
he's an author, He's written a lot of books on

(54:22):
the subjects. He's been doing this for a long time.
He's also an Indigenous elder and a sham and so
he's going to bring a lot of a lot of
content and a lot of input. So it's going to
be a very good lineup of speakers and it's going
to be exciting at the end of the day. If
there's time, we're going to do like a town hall

(54:43):
meeting where we're all going to sit together, so the audience,
whoever's in the room will have a chance to talk,
share experiences, or ask questions. There's going to be plenty
of time for people in the room to ask questions
to the speakers, but there's going to be a question
in periods. There's going to be some breaks between also,
so people want to share something, come forward. If there's

(55:06):
witnesses who want to talk to talk to any of
our speakers, like feel free. That's why we're here. You know,
there's gonna be a lot of questions, a lot of
a lot of information. A lot of us are meeting
for the first time also, so it's the first time.
You know, it's the it's like it's it's almost like
an inauguration. Yeah, but I'm hoping that this conference is

(55:28):
going to be annual. I'd like to do whatever year
going forward and maybe possibly adding a second event, maybe
a craft show or something related paranormal related, just to
add to the you know, add to the events so
people get in the opportunity. Because here in this region,
like in Udaway region, like there isn't much in terms

(55:49):
of events like paranormal events. It would be nice to
do that.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
So yeah, it's so, I know this year the tickets
are free and then next year or the second annual one,
there'll be a fee. But I know it's hard to tell.
But do you have a speculation how many people should
be attending this first year?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Honestly, it's it could be anything. I'm expecting. I'm expecting
e turn out because I've had quite a few emails
and messages people confirming that they want to come. So
I'm not expecting to fill the room. Where you are
using the sas dejard in a cabana bojon which is
on the Buvosity division in Hull. It's it's not far

(56:35):
from the sap and the log cabin. The capacity for
the room I think in total is one hundred and twenty.
So I made sure there's plenty of space, you know,
because again it's the first year. That's why we're doing
this because I don't know what to expect. I'd like
to think that, Okay, we're gonna have maybe forty people.

(56:56):
You know, there's us plus there's forty people showing up.
It's like, hey, that's pretty good. You know. We're doing
it basically just to meet and exchange information. That's what's important.
So that's why the first year I'm keeping it kind
of low profile, quiet, not too many things. You know,
I didn't do live music. I didn't add like, Okay,

(57:16):
we're going to do a drawer, or we're going to
do some sponsors, or we're going to do some kids games,
or get get get someone in a big foot suit
like a mascot. You know, there's a lot of fun
films they can do. You know, those are ideas for
the future, but the first year is keep it really
really basic and simple and just kind of see how
it plays out and how many people show up. I've
already been approached by a couple of people who want

(57:38):
to speak at the conference, who want it, you know,
so I may be adding speakers. In that case, we'll
have to add a second day, make it a two
day event. So already it's kind of looking like that.
So that's why I just need to see what happens
the first year, and then that's going to tell me
what we're doing for the next years and how we
can do things better and you know, accommodate. Maybe there's

(57:58):
going to be like we're going to be overwhelmed with people,
will need a bigger space, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
I have a plan b you know, so you know,
if we need to readjust and we can.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Yeah, well, you know, they're good. So it's going to
be at least two people, myself and my friend.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
That's awesome. I'm so looking forward to seeing you guys too, Like, yeah,
it's going to be so much fun. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
So yeah, I know there's a lot of people who
are showing up at the conference also, so we're going
to be meeting a lot of different people, and I
think that's going to generate a lot of a lot

(58:35):
of knowledge, a lot of awareness, and I think there's
going to be some surprises. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Well, I really hope this segment brings more awareness to
the conference, and because I have people all over the
world that listen to the to the segments. So it'll
be really nice if people are able to attend this year.
We didn't know about it before. I think. I think
that'll be exciting.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Yeah, definitely, because it's our first you know. Ye, and
I think a lot of people who would have liked
to attend this never had the chance because you know,
there's no such event. And that's why I think down
the road it's important to maybe add a second one,
something paranormal. You know, we could do like a little
paranormal fair or something and add some vendors, and you know,

(59:25):
there's a lot of things we can do from then on,
because I know there's a lot of paranormal groups, like
in Ontario, there's a lot, like there's a lot of
here in Quebec not as much for some reason. But
really I don't know of anyones. Do you know any
any any paranormal groups on the Quebec side.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Like, I don't know any No, I don't. I'm sure
they're there, I just haven't really heard of any.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Yeah, we don't. We don't know about them. If they exist,
we don't know. We I've never heard of any. So
it's kind of like a dead zone here. That's why
I'm trying to put something in. Something is better than nothing,
make something exist anything, you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Know, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yeah, But I know here in Quebec there's a researcher
by the name of Yvon and he did a lot
of research with he's a cryptozoologist and he went to
mont Valet and he found He was called because some
workers on that mountain in Sagney found like huge footprints
eighteen inches eighteen inch tracks and for a sasquatch, eighteen

(01:00:30):
inch that's that's really big, that's twice my foot So yeah,
they were huge, and he took some casts and he
was on he did some appearances, he did interviews and
talked about it in French, of course, but I've never
heard from him. I went looking for him. I can't
find him, so it would have been nice to touch

(01:00:51):
base with him and have them come to the conference.
I don't know where he is. I'm hop I'm hope
he's still alive.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Yeah, if he is watching this, or people who know
him are watching this, please reach out to us and
let us know if it's okay. Yeah, you know, yeah,
and any paranormal investigators in Quebec please let us know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Absolutely, Yeah, come come forward and don't stay alone in
your corner, because we're forming a group here in the
Udaway region like Ottawa gat No, we're forming a community,
you know, because I think that's needed. You know, you
need that support from others. I think it's so important.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Because it's I've mentioned this a lot too, because it
can be very stressful and cause a kind of a
PTSD effect on people who have these these experiences and
their loved ones don't believe them. So in order to
so if they can talk to like minded people or
just people who won't judge them, that's that really helps

(01:01:52):
out so many people.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Now, that makes a big difference. Yeah, I've never had
a live sighting of a sasquatch yet. I've spotted some
things on on on pictures and videos that I took
like afterwards, but I've never had an actual sighting. So
and I'm sure that nothing can prepare you for that
one when it happens, even if you're aware of them,
When you see that they're huge. You know, it's like

(01:02:14):
you're you're of course, it's you know, it's like seeing
Chewbacca in the woods. You're you're not prepared for that.
Your mind is not gonna compute, you know, we're not
used to that, or at least not yet.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you so very much for being
my special guest on this segment. I really appreciate it.
This is so fascinating and I really look forward to
meeting you on the twenty third. And could you please
tell the audience where they can find you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Well, I have a blog. The blog is a e
cso hyphen Bigfoot dot blogspot dot com, and I have
one for Quebec also, so it's o sq hyphen bigfoot
dot blogspot dot com. You can also say me an
email e cso Bigfoot at gmail dot com. I have

(01:03:05):
a YouTube channel which is also called e cs O
Bigfoot and I think I sent you a link to
the web page. We have an official web page for
the conference, which is it's actually posted on the blog
if you look in the link section. And of course
we have a I have a group on Facebook if

(01:03:25):
you search Eastern Canada Sasquatch Organization. I have a little
group there. Oh yeah, that's probably the best way. I
have pages. Also, if you if you type up and
search Eastern Canada Sasquatch Organization or again on Sasquatch Quebec
and you'll find that. So yes, I'm all over the place.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Yeah, well, thank you so much again, Hank Tit. I'm
just going to say goodbye to the audience and maybe
we can touch base just for a couple of minutes afterwards.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Thank you, Thank you so much for having me on
the show.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
It was my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Thank you well, folks. That is it for another episode.
Thank you to my very special guest tonight, my amazing audience,
and UPRN one oh seven point seven New Orleans and
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Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
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