December 15, 2025 • 66 mins
Saved By The Bell was very popular T.V. show from the late 80's into the 90's. In many ways it paved the way for tween drama/comedies. Looking back many people have noticed many strange things about this show. The symbols, the content, the characters, the theme song etc. Today we will walk through these conspiracies that range from mind control all the way up to Illuminati control. Are any of these theories valid? Let's take a look!
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Welcome everybody. INNWCZ radio dot com Channel ones down the
rabbit hole. I'm Big d and I'm Brandon. It's great
to have everybody along. I hope well, especially those who
were in the US, had a wonderful Thanksgiving Canada. I know,
y'all's was like a month or so ago. It's like
early October, so you should be you should be over
(01:40):
it now, but we're still in the post Turkey trip
to fan Bliss.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, I've actually got a split piece soup cooking right
now with the leftover ham so nice.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, it's funny. I cooked. I cooked two turkeys. I
had brisket, sausage and a ham, and a buddy of
mine came over and he was like, I got DIBs
on the hambone. I said, did you buy that? I
bought that, but I need it for my split piece
soup and whatever else. And I said ten bucks, buddy, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Ten bucks. Yeah, I know, because it's funny. It's like
a tradition because like my entire I'm weird. I don't
like turkey. I've never liked turkey, so I'm a ham person.
So even at my sister's house when i'd go over
there before we moved, she would make a turkey or
a ham, or we would make a ham and bring it,
but either way it was a ham just because I
won't eat the turkey. And then whatever was left over
(02:34):
I always got, and I got the hambone and I
would go home and make a split pea soup the
next day.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why do you think I had brisket and sausage out there.
I'm not a huge turkey fan either. I'll eat it,
but it's once a year. It's not my favorite. And
I made a Cajun one and a traditional one and
everybody loved them. They turned out great, but I can't
have that much turkey. Really, it's not my favorite thing.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, we did because we went in and just went.
I went and visited some friends and it was we
had ham, lasagna, deviled eggs, and a couple other random things.
It was just like, whatever, this is the food we like.
None of us like turkey, so we're like, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I did think about I thought about smoking a basket,
but I'm just like, eh.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just read about this new thing that some people
are doing who don't like turkey, as they call it
sides giving, So it's just all sides, all your favorite sides,
and no turkey, which I'm down with that. I don't
really care.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
See, I think it should be like a brisket for Thanksgiving, yes,
primary for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm in that works.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I mean, we're changing it.
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that in your ear because if you haven't given them
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And we don't endorse or get paid by or take
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advertisements at all. But these guys are our friends and
they do have a really good thing going over there,
so we just like to mention it.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, they are, and it's a great thing. And like
I said, if you like what we do, you'll love
what they do.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah. There's like three or four shows on that network
that I listened to on a pretty regular basis that
I enjoy, and they have tons of them. You'll find
something you like.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Today we're going to talk about something that I really
knew nothing about, honestly, and I kind of ran across
it again. I've seen it before and never really paid
attention to it, but I ran across it again when
I did a Midweek a while back on celebrity CIA
assets and this conspiracy controversy however you want to put
(05:01):
it came up again in my search for that, and
I just put it off to the side. And we're
going to look at it today.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, and it's one that I kind of seen it
pop up a couple of times but just never really
thought about looking into it till you mention it. Now
that I've looked around, like.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh, it's way deeper than I thought it would be.
Just by I'll just say some of the headlines I
saw and some references that people made to it. It's
not a show that I watched. We're going to talk
about this show Saved by the Bell, which was on
TV from nineteen eighty eight to roughly nineteen ninety three.
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In its original package, they had some offshoots and some
specials and so forth. But Saved by the Bell this
TV show for preteens and you know, like early teens.
It was a huge deal when it came out and
when it was being aired, and a lot of the
characters from that show still live with people today who
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watched that show.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, and it's one of those we talk about it
because it hit right about the time I was. I
was their age range that it was basically made for,
you know, just going into like high school stuff like that.
It came out, But it's not a show that I
watched a lot of I knew of it, and I
didn't watch, But I didn't watch a lot of it.
(06:24):
Partly too, because it's kind of one of those things,
like me and Big D mentioned that we're talking about
this earlier, is like people forget that back then, you
didn't have Netflix, you didn't have Hulu. You couldn't just say, oh,
I want to watch this show and then search for
it and binge it forever. You pretty much you were
there when it was on or you didn't see it,
so and I think this show was kind of at
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one of those ones that was at a time that
I wasn't always home, so occasionally if it was I
was sitting at the TV and it was on, I
would watch it because I remember it kind of. But
I don't have a huge memory.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Of this show.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I do remember there was two of the girls that
I kind I really liked back then.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know. Well, one of the most famous personalities or
actors on Saved by the Bell was this guy named
Dustin Diamond. I did know who he was. He had
all kind of problems and he was an interesting character
in real life, and I mostly knew about him, oddly
enough from Howard Stern because he would show up on
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Howard Stern. But my daughters, who when this was going
on in its original airing, were way too young, but
they did watch it later in the rerun form, which
is why I sort of knew what it was. I
knew what it was about. I never actually watched an episode.
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I knew the theme song because it would play on
Disney Radio that my girls would listen to, and all
that kind of stuff, So I really had no clue
what the premise of the show was, who the characters were,
and now why there's some kind of controversy of about
this show. So doing this dive into it has opened
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my eyes to some things that are kind of creepy, honestly,
And maybe this is why when you run into somebody
these days who grew up watching, say, By the Bell,
they are still latched onto these characters and the storylines
because it was kind of a soap opera for kids,
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not in a serious way, but like a comedy drama thing.
They would touch on social issues, and it was at
this fictional high school, and it was all the inner
drama of high school jocks and nerds and all that
kind of stuff. In fact, according to Wikipedia says in
later years, Saved by the Bell was classified as educational
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and informational.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's like a stretch, but okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Like I said, I never watched it, so I don't
know what kind of education they were given out. But
the show was also named one of the twenty best
school shows of all time by AOL TV. How many
school shows have there been, I don't know, but it's
in there. But it was undoubtedly popular. There's no doubt
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about this.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
It was a lot of people. Remember, I mean, anyone
my age, we remember it. I mean you knew it.
You knew about it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So if you're like me and you did not watch
this show, sort of the crux of the show was
this protagonist named Zach Morris, and he could literally stop
time and then get away with anything he wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Pretty much. He and it's not I don't know if
he would stopped time to get away with it is more,
but there was. He would break the fourth wall.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Lot, right, And that was a new concept that was
being introduced to I'll say kids, this fourth the idea
of a fourth wall? What is this fourth wall? Was
it kind of like a time warp thing? Could see.
I didn't watch it, so I'm only reading these things.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It was more of it, if I remember right, It
was more and less of a time wark thing, but
more of it, Like everything around him would stop, right,
and then he would talk to the camp like the
audience and say, oh hey, you know, and make some
point in some way and then go back and then
all of a sudden everything would start back up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So he didn't really take advantage of this, like go
over and change the grades on his paper, don't I remember, Well,
he's an idiot. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Remember him doing that. But at most it was just
like a fourth wall break.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So apparently there was a show prior to Saved by
the Belt called Good Morning, Miss Bliss. Never heard of it,
don't remember it ever being on. It was only on
for one season, but it was in some ways a prequel.
It did not get picked up for a second season.
They rebooted it and then they named it Saved by
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the Belt and they moved it from Indiana to California.
Oddly enough, some of the care from the first one
moved with the show, so they were in Indiana during
the first season, and then when Say by the Bell started,
they're magically transported over to La. Yeah, we're going to
go through some of the i'll say theories first, and
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then we're going to get into the conspiracy and the
dark conspiracy about this show. So you'll have to help
me with this, Brandon, because honestly, I did not watch
the show, so I don't even know some of these
characters that they're talking about. Yeah. One of the theories
is that mister Belding is the actual savior prophesied in
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the title of the show. Oh so a bunch of
fans or whatever believe that the show's title connotes the
importance of mister Belding's character. No matter what the kids
get up to, he always gets it sort of. According
to this, when the students deal with real issues from
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substances to bullies, gambling, eating disorders, mister Belding is always
there to save the day. His name quote bell and
the sound it makes ding can note his being the
real heart of the show, mister Belding. So there's that theory.
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One of the more popular ones, though, is this idea
that the main character, the Zach Morris, the whole thing's
a dream. Some people will even go to the lyrics
of the opening theme song to flesh this idea out.
But according to this, it said in the first series,
Zach deals with the trials and tribulations of you know,
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normal stuff. He has all this trouble in say, by
the bell poof all his problems are gone. This fantasy
world of his likely takes place in his head every
day once his real school day is over, and he
feels like he is saved by the bell so he
can leave and retreat into this made up life where
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he's good at everything and never gets in trouble. And
there's some lyrical content in the opening theme that apparently
lends some credence to this. Another one is there's a
character on the show called Tory. The theory is is
that Tory was a cop and Screech and Lisa took
her life. Oh so, apparently she was one of Zach's,
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the main character's love interest, and she mysteriously disappears from
the show without a trace.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I do remember that, and people talk about that she
was like a love interest, I think in the first
or second season and then suddenly just no explanation, no nothing.
She's there one episode and I think she there was
something that was like a storyline that was like in
the middle of a storyline with her, and then all
of a sudden, just well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
According to this theory, they believe that she and Violet
from season two were both undercover cops. When Lisa and
Screech found out, they took out the faux students so
their illicit caffeine pill business could thrive. There's another theory
that Saved by the Bell is a sci fi show
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about a teen supervillain. Zach Morris is the superhuman who
has a superhuman charisma of a vampire. On top of that,
he scored over fifteen hundred on the sat As. No
mere mortal could possess all these powers. Zach must be
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a sci fi supervillain. There's also another theory that Zack
Morris died in Indiana and that True Detective. The show
True Detective proves it. Here's this theory. They believe that
Zach Morris perished in junior high back in the Good
Morning Miss Bliss days, so that he never even made
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it to the main series. Saved by the Bell is
in fact a perfect afterlife created by an eighth grade
boy in which his dream of being the coolest guy
in school is realized. The person who has come up
with this theory says the proof is in the show's opening,
which features a spiral symbol later seen in the series
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True Detective. It is said to represent life cycles, the
old ending so that the new may arise.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Huh see, I've heard that theory very similarly, except it
wasn't that he died, it's that he's asleep, that he's
taking in that he's This is a dream that Zach
and Indiana is having about what life would be like
if he wasn't. Because from most stuff that I read,
because I don't remember good Morning, Mistress call or whatever
it is, I don't are miss blessed, I don't remember that,
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but from what I read on it, it seemed like
Zach wasn't the cool kid that he is and saved
by the bell. But he's like the cool like hip
whatever where everyone loves him. He was like an unpopular kid.
So this was the dream of becoming a popular kid
and being the it guy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So here's another dark conspiracy belief here is that mister Belding.
I think I'm saying that Ryan Belding. Is that how
you say it?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, it was Belding.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Theory is that mister Belding took the life of Miss
Bliss and that Zach, Lisa, and Screech witnessed it. The
way this theory goes is they believe that mister Belding
accidentally pushed Miss Bliss to her demise and Screech, Zach
and Lisa saw it happen, and to escape conviction, he
convinced the kids and their families to move to California
on scholarship. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's his little out there.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They could find you in California if you were gonna
escape and go somewhere to be undercover, it certainly wouldn't
be in the like some fictional La town.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, and you change names and all that kind of stuff,
But which I do think it's interesting that you know
that it was. There are the four characters that came
over from Miss Bless. So you got Lisa, Turtle, Screech, Zach, Morris,
and mister Belding all came over from Missus Bless and they, like,
like you said, they retooled the whole thing but kept
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those four characters.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Could be again, I don't know any of these characters.
I'm just going by what I'm reading.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I just know from like reading that those four characters
were in Miss Bliss. Yes, and they said that those
four characters they carried over into Save by the Bell,
But there's no explanation on.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
How they got there. Yeah, why were they continuation, why
were they in Indiana, and then next year all of
them they're not siblings or anything.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
They're different families whatever. All of a sudden they all
moved across the country. Do you know, to La and
just that it's weird. But it's one of those things
that I mean, it's not technically they don't say it's
a continuation to the other Shi, but I mean it's
a retooling I guess of the other show.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah. According to the US Sun, this idea that Saved
by the Bell has a conspiracy theory. Their whole thing
is about this dream scape, that this is a dream
of Zach Morris, it says in this article and both shows,
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Zach is somewhat of a troublemaker, but on Good Morning
Miss Blissy tended to be more reserved and often had
problems with girls. This was not the case was Saved
by the Bell. On that show, Zach was the alpha
of his friend group and was one of the most
popular kids in the school. The differences between the two
shows have caused fans to believe that Saved by the
Bell never happened. They say, instead, the show only existed
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in the mind of a less popular and more awkward
Zach Morris. Now here's where it gets into this conspiracy
about the lyrics of this opening theme song. So I'll
read these lyrics that they're referring to quote. By the
time I grab my books and I give myself a look,
I'm at the corner, just in time to see the
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bus fly by. It's all right, because I'm saved by
the bell. If the teacher pops a test, I know
I'm in a mess, and my dogs ate all my
homework last night, writing low in my chair, she won't
know I'm there. If I can handle it tomorrow, it
will be all right. And according to this these lyrics
essentially conflict with Zack's saved by the Bell personality. For example,
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in the show, if a teacher surprises the class with
a pop quiz, Zach would not be in a mess.
He would instead persuade the teacher to turn it into
a competition that he was able to pass. Fans believe
that the song's chorus is what releases Zach from his
dream and brings him back to his own reality as
a nerdy student who can't catch a break, and that
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essentially Bayside High School would just be a figment of
his imagination. And I've seen that multiple times. This idea
that this guy Zach in the original This Good Morning,
Miss Bliss was kind of awkward and he was not
super cool and he was prone to daydreaming or whatever
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in that. And again I didn't watch it, but this
is what I'm reading, and that would not happen a lot.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And Save by the Bell he would daydream and then
have these crazy elaborate daydreams that would pop up.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Right. So the idea is then that what you're watching
and Save by the Bell wasn't really happening, although they
didn't ever tell you, hey, this is his dream, but
that in reality, if there was such a thing, because
it's a TV show, all of this, say By the Bell,
him being an alpha male, being popular, being good looking
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and all this stuff, there's a fantasy that he's having. Yeah,
and you're just along for the ride.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well, I mean it's one of those things too, I
mean even I mean, I don't know if you saw
this one. In an interview Zach Moore, the guy who
played Zach Morris, Mark Paul Gosler, said that Zach Morris
was the darkest character he ever played.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Which is an odd statement. It is because if you
look at and it's like, it's not that I'd never
seen parts of the show, so I'm familiar with his character.
And he was always wearing bright colored clothes. He had
the sandy blonde hair. You know. He was a good
looking kid and very popular and all the girls wooed
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over him and so forth. So you would not think
of that character as being a dark character at all.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Now, well, there's a whole thing. There's a whole web
series that went for like five years by Dashield DRIs
School who called Zach Morris's Trash and it talked about
how Zach Morrison his character. But in the interview with
Mark Paul Gossler, he was talking about because he's in
a TV show called Found where he played a really
dark character, and they asked the darkest character I ever played,
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and he said, no, I think it belongs to Zach
Morris when I asked her as his darkest character. If
you've ever watched Zach Morris's Trash on the YouTube by
Deschell Driscoll, he wrote, Zach Morris's Trash and he's not
wrong about a lot of the things. Zach Morris master manipulator,
some nefarious activities I think I was bred to play
roles like sir, just because I started my career playing
one of the most nefarious characters on television. Of course,
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that's tongue in cheek, but you know the way that
Dashchell were exposed to Zach Fall's bad behavior, He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, that's an interesting statement, I think based on that character.
And look, we've done shows about how behind the scenes
at Disney and Nickelodeon and so forth, there were some
very dark forces that are working behind the scenes on
a lot of those shows and with those young actors.
I mean, that's not a secret.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
No, And that's one of those things that we've talked
about this when we talk about the Disney actresses and
stuff like that, and look how they like wants the
programming broke the things that happen, And I mean, if
you look at like the characters and actors and actresses
from Saved by the Bell, some of them went on
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to be okay and stuff others broke.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Dustin Diamond. You read his book, and I have not
read the entire book, but I've read excerpts. If you're
to believe any of it, or even a portion of it,
he wrote a tell all book about some of the
crazy stuff going on. Now that's been challenged by multiple
people and multiple sources. He claims that it was his
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ghost writer who made up a bunch of the stuff.
But did they like is that just the fallback of well,
you know, I don't want to get in trouble and
people are pissed off because I talked a lot about
the Orgies and all the crazy stuff that was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And you wonder that because how many actors or actress
to be seen who have suddenly raised their hand basically
and said, Hey, look at this shit that's happening over here,
and then all of a sudden they're deemed as crazy
in their careers just nose dive. And it makes you wonder,
did Dustin Diamond be like, hey, I'm going to expose
all of this and then all of a sudden he
exposed and they're all like, hey, you're blacklisted. Then he's like,
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I was kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
He was blacklisted. In fact, he was so blacklisted that
he lost his house. He this is how I know
him from Howard Stern. I remember when he went on
Howard Stern and he was selling these T shirts. He
wanted everybody to give him like fifteen bucks so he
could get his house out of foreclosure or something, and
you bought this T shirt from him that said I
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helped Dustin Diamond save his house or something like that,
or I helped Screech save his house something like that.
And it didn't work. He didn't get enough money, but
he had a hard time, and he was, by all accounts,
one of the more popular characters on that show. You
would think you would have gone on to do other things.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You would think. But the other thing is too is
I will be honest, most things I've read and seen
about Dustin Diamond and being in a comic world because
he would go on tour as a comic and do
that kind of stuff. He was a prack.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, and that doesn't help obviously, So.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I mean that might be part of the problem, but
there could be that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, maybe there's a reason, because now we're going to
get into the darker bowels of this conspiracy here, and
this is where things turn into a whole nother region.
According to Conspiracyrealist dot com, they have an article the
Saved by the Bell Illuminati conspiracy and I'm thinking, what
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what would say by the Bell have to do? With
anything Illuminati.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, we've talked about before how Hollywood hides things
to try and you know, to mind mess with your
mind and get you to think things and everything like that.
And I mean, what better way to start than with
the children, right?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So, according to this article, it says episode plots are
dissected for hidden meanings and messages. Storylines involving mind controls,
subliminal messaging, and the pursuit of power and influence are
highlighted as reflections of Illuminati goals and methods. For instance,
the episode where Zach uses subliminal messages to influence his
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peers choice is pointed to as a direct nod to
the supposed methods employed by the Illuminati to control the masses. Yep,
they say. The Saved by the Bell Illuminati theory is
not monolithic. It branches into various interpretations and offshoots. Some
versions focus on the numerology within the show, analyzing episode numbers, dates,
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and times for hidden meanings. Others delve into per personal
lives and careers of the cast members post Say by
the Bell, suggesting that their success in the entertainment industry
is tied to their participation in this alleged Illuminati project,
and I did see a lot of that. Also, a
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more nuanced interpretation suggests that the show, rather than being
a direct Illuminati creation, I do believe that's important. They
do not believe that it was a direct Illuminati creation,
but it reflects the industry's broader tendency to incorporate occult
and esoteric symbols, consciously or unconsciously, due to the pervasive
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influence of such imagery and popular culture. And it's interesting
that line right there, because the symbol that we were
talking about just a moment ago, the kind of swirly
symbol that is also brought up a lot during Pizzagate,
that very very symbol that showed up in well lots
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of teen shows and cartoons. So people have been noticing
this stuff. Furthermore, the narrative and thematic elements of the
show that are flagged as quote evidence of the Illuminati
influence can be found in many other television shows of
the time, suggesting that these are not unique or deliberate insertions,
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but rather common tropes and storytelling devices of the era.
So this person's basically saying it's not unique to say
by the Bell it was something that was common during
that time, sort of a way of telling stories. But
I will say this during that time, during the mid
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to late eighties and specifically through the nineties, where we
saw this again sudden rise of the new Mickey Mouse
Club and all the Disney programming you had at least
like Saved by the Bell, which was on NBC, and
all of these sort of preteen two teen dramedies that
came out of nowhere were a total leap in a
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different direction from what was going on when I was
a kid, where you had like Growing Pains, and you
had you Know, What's Happening, and you had I don't know,
you know, just those kind of shows. But they were comedies.
They were funny. They might have a social issue attached
to it, but there were no symbols or like, there
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was no conspiracies around them in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And most of those were based on families. They were
family like you watched all those you know, all those
Growing Pains, you know, all those shows, because that's kind
of I remember those shows, and then I also remember
stuff like Save by the Bell because I'm like writing
that middle generation where I kind of caught all of them,
those shows like you said, they were family. They were
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all family oriented. You saw their families sitting around the
table eating. It was all the nuclear family that we
all believed.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, and even if the kids were I don't know,
say adopted or they were like the Brady Bunch where
the mom and the dad had kids from you know,
different marriages, and I think their spouses had passed away,
but they got together. But we were starting to see
sort of this infusion of sort of blended families, but
they were all families. Every show up to that point
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was about a family unit and they may have a
friend down the street that is from a broken home,
but you know, that was kind of you're supposed to
feel sorry for them and everybody's helping them along kind
of thing. The mid to late eighties through the nineties,
all of that blew up. Yeah, and the kids were
separated and the only adults that were around them were teachers, coaches,
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some guy in the block, or the bus driver or
it was never the well, I shouldn't say never, it
was rarely the parents.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yeah, and you see that in all the TV shows,
and it's really just kind of became that thing that
and I think it was just normalizing things for those generations, like, oh, hey,
we really don't have the nuclear family anymore, so we're
gonna put this into your shows, so it it normalizes, Yes,
what the family unit has become.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that, and that has
been a as we've talked about when we did our
Illuminati series, that is a goal of the Illuminati or
the powers that be to break up the family union.
Because if you can break up the family unit, whether
it be through divorces or just both parents working all
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the time, or however it is, and the kids are
being raised by the TV and the schools in pop
culture and music and so forth, well you take over
all of those institutions you have the kids because the
parents aren't with them hardly at all. And so a
lot of people are going back and looking at this
Saved by the Bell as sort of the beginning of
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this or the precursor to that movement, which we still
see today. I mean, it's still going on according to
Illuminati watcher dot com. And if you go down this
rabbit hole, you will see a lot of people point
to this article. This is kind of the definitive article
on this entire thing. Yes, so we're gonna break it down.
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We're gonna go kind of point by point on this thing,
because this was put out in twenty fourteen, I believe
twenty thirteen, twenty four fourteen, anyway.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Twenty fourteen, and then updated a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But yeah, oh yeah, I was updated I think right
after Dustin Diamond died. Yeah, So we'll start with that
because this will give you an idea to where this
is going. The guy who writes this, his name is
Isaac Weisshap w E I Shaupt, And if you would
like a link to this, I would be glad to
send it to you. Just email us and we'll get
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that out to you. But it's called say by the Bell, Illuminati,
Satan worship, sex magic, and other conspiracy theories. So he
starts with this update about Dustin Diamond, who died at
age forty four on February first, twenty twenty one. And
according to this Isaac Weisshap, the occult significance for this
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date is that it's a pagan sacrifice holiday known as
m bog Imbolg. And he has a book out called
a Grand Unified Conspiracy where he sort of explains this
pagan sacrifice thing. He says, the annual tradition of the
Groundhog Day and the divination of the future has a
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much deeper, darker occult meaning than one would realize. You
take a look at all of the holidays celebrated on
a regular basis, you'll see that they tie into God
and goddess worship by the occultis And he has a
quote here quote. A Protestant minister named Alexander Hisslop wrote
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a book entitled The Two Babylons in eighteen fifty three
in which he postulated that the Semaramas was an actual
person from Mesopotamia and was the one responsible for the
belief of multiple gods and goddesses. The significance of Semaramas
is that she is the root of all of the
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worship behind gods and goddesses. All of the gods and
goddesses ultimately refer back to this goddess Semaramas and her
counterpart God Nimrod. So he is claiming that Dustin Diamond,
who died on Groundhog's Day, was basically a pagan sacrificial ritual.
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And I have seen this not just with Dustin Diamond,
but a lot of celebrities, people who are really into
the numerology side of these conspiracies. There's a guy on
YouTube called Black Balloon, and he does this all the time.
It's all about numbers, it's all about dates, it's all
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about significance of the dates and the ties. And he
follows celebrities and when they die and on what day
or what time or the room number. I mean, he
goes really elaborate into it. And that's essentially what this
Isaac Weishaup is saying here is that Dustin Diamond was sacrificed.
But according to the original posts, this was the original
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article says one of the best nineties shows was Saved
by the Bell. He talks about what it was about.
He said, nonetheless, the show was a good time if
you were into it back then, so I had much
excitement to see that there's this conspiracy. He talks about
the escape of Zach Morris and that it's all just
a fantasy and so forth. So then he says the
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main character, Zach Morris, graduates with an SAT score of
one thousand, five hundred and two, which is quote considered average,
and then gets accepted into none other than Gale University.
Home of the Illuminati secret society Skull and Bones. Some
claim that he wouldn't have been able to get into
Yale with that low of an SAT score. Mark Paul Gossler,
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who plays Zach Morris, and some theorists claim that he
and Paul Walker are one and the same. Not so
obscure if you consider that Paul Walker was in The
Skull and Bones in his film The Skulls. Well.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
The one thing too with the SAT score is a
lot of people and I saw a lot of people
make that cut. Well, the highest score you can get
a sixteen hundred. So a fifteen hundred is good. That's
today's Yeah, scaling a fifteen hundred back in like what
year that would have been two thousand, it would have
been ninety two, Yeah, ninety three. So a score of
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fifteen hundred that that was about average because the old
point scale was twenty four hundred was the high.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So yeah, So this Paul Walker, there's a death conspiracy
theory around this too. Quote. There are claims that his
film history shows ties to the secret societies and therefore
the Illuminati. He was in The Fast and the Furious
car films, which shares the same name as the ATF
Operation Fast and Furious, where there was a cover up
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in the secretive op to trade guns with the Mexican
cartel in order to track guns and then arrest high
ranking members of the cartel. Walker was also in The Skulls,
which was about the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale.
The Skull and Bones has ties to right wing and
multiple politicians, including members of PNAC, George Bush, John Kerry
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and all kinds of people. They're basically saying there's a
connection there that's subtle, but not so subtle if you
dig just below the surface. Also, zax Wingman Slater, who
was played by Mario Lopez, was also implicated in a
conspiracy that he and Mark Paul were killed in a
car crash eerily similar to Paul Walker. According to website
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Oh No they didn't, and I have the link to
that as well, says did you hear that Paul, Mark
Gossler and Mario Lopez died in a car accident? You
may have around nineteen ninety three, when rumors of the
Star's demise spread like wildfire across the nation's middle schools.
Of course, the stars of Saved by the Bell are
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all doing fine and have gone on to lucrative careers,
but the public stirs for grizzly death rumors about bluff
stars has not been assotiated. In nineteen nine, Blues Clues
host Steve Burns suffered a heroin quote heroin overdose, and
just a few months ago Tom Hanks supposedly fell off
a cliff, and that's according to Gwynn Watkins. As the
article points out, the other stars of the show went
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down that similar child star Disney path of doing odd
and eccentric things, such as Screech starring in a porno
and Elizabeth Berkley being a stripper in the film Showgirls.
Some claim that the Disney stars get doses of mind
control and they break down over time and start doing
wild stuff like drugs or amateur porno, and that is true,
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the breakdown that they have, or it's a humiliation ritual.
You have to do this, because we've talked about the
entire modern Mousketeer group and they all did crazy stuff
like this, the nude shoots, which like, why would you
have to do that? Went crazy, sold their souls for
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fame or whatever, and we went through all that, and
they're claiming this was sort of the beginning of that,
because Dustin Diamond did I guess an amateur, I don't know.
I apparently he did a porno. I know Mario Lopez
did some odd stuff as well that I read.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Yeah, he did some odd things, but he didn't go
as far off the rails as Dustin Diamond did. And
then what is her name? Lark vorhees, she's gone like
just posting random weird stuff she's done, but I've also
read that she's had problems with drugs.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Well. And Elizabeth Berkeley, I mean when she when show
Girls came out, that was a huge deal at the time.
Everybody panned it. It was an awful film. I never
saw it, but it got slammed as being terrible. However,
she was the reason everybody went to see that film
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because it did well in the box office. And then
she went on this I remember she did this late
night talk show of tour and was completely acting slutty
the entire time, like she dove into her character and
she went on like Jay Leno and a letterman and
few things and just sludied the whole thing up.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Well, and I think it's one of those things too.
And you're here basically like you know, she her character
in the show was as straight laced as could be. Like,
I think there's a whole episode where basically that they
have a whole thing because she gets like addicted to
caffeine pills. It is like the worst thing she does
in her entire the entire series, right, Like she is
the smart, straight laced and then for her to step
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out in the very next project she does, she's a
stripper and then she like but like you said, she
went off the rails as like not just in the show,
in a movie, but like on the tour, she's just everything.
And it's like, oh, like she wanted to get away
from that type cast as far as she could, and
she basically in a lot of sense their career.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a very similar to
me in what Miley Cyrus. Did you know? Miley Cyrus
was a little miss Sunshine or whatever on her show
which her dad was on. Yeah, and then decided I'm
just going to shatter this into a million pieces and
be as nasty as I can. Yeah, and it just
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you know, shocks Everybody's like, how does that even happen? Well,
they're saying they're pointing back to this show and saying
this was kind of the this was kind of the
blueprint that was being set forward.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, and that's that's the tough part with a lot
of that is it's that you either the blueprint or
the argument that they try and come back with is
because they're in a lot of ways by being on
the show, their childhood's taken away and then they end
up rebelling and then they just like go off through us,
kind of like a Preacher's daughter or you know, they
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always talk about like the Preacher's daughter and the Preacher's
cads are the ones go like off the rails, And
they say, in a lot of ways, this is what
happens with the Disney and all these child stars is
they're not allowed to do things. But I think it's
the other way. I think they're they're allowed to do
things that they shouldn't be doing, and they are also
things are happening to them that shouldn't be and then
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they that's absolutely mine, that's a fact right there.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, they're not being they're not being sheltered from anything.
They're being exposed to way too much stuff that they
should not ever be exposed to. Yeah, So do you
know who this Lark Vorhees is.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Yeah, she was the one, like I said, she went
kind of nutty.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Was her name? Lisa Turtle in the was her character? Yeah,
okay and all reality.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
What's funny too, is the two that I really like.
I thought Lisa Turtle was. She's the one I liked,
and then it was of course Amberson.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But you know, well, according to this article and I
did look it up, I found several pictures of her,
and one of the things when she kind of went
off the rails as you referred to, she did some
interviews with like TMZ Entertainment Tonight and a whole bunch
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of you know, like teen magazines and so forth, and
she was trying to, I guess, maybe do a comeback
or something. But she was making weird statements. She was rambling.
And one of the things that she did often was
this six sixty six hand symbol, kind of like the
okay with the with the three fingers extended.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
According to Tex Mars, who I think is quite good
in his book Decoding the Illuminati Symbolism, the All Seeing
I in sixty six to six hand gesture, he says
the OK sign has the o, which is a symbol
for the sun, while it also symbolizes the female genitalia
in tantric yoga. This esure shows spiritual and physical ecstasy
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that Aleister Crowley sort of invented this. He was into
yoga and you know, his magic, trance and all this stuff.
Says getting back to Crowley, his interest in the occult
and magic continued as he proceeded into these yoga and tantra.
It all rolls back to this god goddess thing and
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the Antichrist and Satan worship and all this stuff. And
this symbol that they throw up is in reference to
him and his sex, magic tantric practices, which of course
go back to him trying to be the beast and
worship Satan and all that stuff. Yeah, I did find
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this interesting. I think I did a show a long
time ago on backmasking, where you play music backwards and
so forth, and that was really big, really big in
the late seventies early eighties. Everybody was freaked out about
back masking and what could you hear on led Zeppelin
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albums and so forth. Well, according to this, the theme song
can be back masked, and if you play it backwards,
you can hear and I miss my satan. We're all saved.
That is apparently in the back masked version.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
And I'll be honest, I heard someone play it backwards
and everything I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Nothing see much of back masking unless it's put their intentional.
And this is coming from somebody who if it was
actually going on, I would know. I've been there, I've
seen it. I've been in recording studios. I've talked to
bands who have been as high up as you can
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go in the industry. It's the power of suggestion. Ninety
percent of the time. I've done this exercise with different albums,
not rock bands, country, classical albums like crooners, you know,
like Sinatra type stuff. Yeah, I've done it with non
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rock bands like Prince and so forth, where I have
played entire albums backwards. Oh, you can find all kind
of stuff in there. You can find pretty much anything
you want. You can isolate a section and believe you
heard this. And if you tell somebody, hey, listen to
this and see if you hear, and then you give
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them the phrase, well that's what they're looking for. Yeah, Oh,
I can kind of hear that if you just play
it to them and say, hey, I'm going to play
this for you. You tell me what this is saying
the vast majority of the time, I think almost every time,
they're like, I don't know, or they'll come up with
something completely different. And there were bands who actually intentionally
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put that stuff in because once it became a thing,
they're like, well, let's freak people out.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
Yeah, that's a mess with them.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Elo Is one did it on purpose. Floyd has some stuff,
and there's a lot of them that did it on purpose.
And it's kind of funny, I think. But to say
by the bell thing, I think they're reaching really hard
on this there. According to this article, as well, ed
Alonzo played Max, who was a magician on the show.
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According to this article, the Illuminati they believe that magic
is reality. They cast spells, perform invocations with spirits, et cetera,
and they attempt these publicly on shows like this so
that the young and impressionable become part of the ritual.
So it turns out that in Dustin Diamond's book that
he claims that ed Alonzo performed some kind of Illuminati
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sex magic with Neil Patrick Harris code word for a
gay relationship or at least encounter and this is the
quote that they give here. Quote. This one was probably
my favorite. It's about Ed Alonzo, who played the most
useless character of Max during the early years of Saved
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by the Bell. Max would always do magic on the show,
which corresponded to Alonzo being a magician in real life. Well,
Neil Patrick Harris has always been a big fan of magic.
In fact, now as an adult, he's on board of
the famous Magic Castle, and all the magic that Barney
does on How I Meet Your Mother is inspired by
Harris's real life skills. So, according to Dustin Diamond, Alonzo
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wound up spending a lot of time with Harris, a
lot of time for a while. They were inseparable, going
away to perform magic together, conjuring their mystical spells of enchantment.
It wasn't until years later that Neil Patrick Harris announced
he was gay. So, according to Dustin Diamond, either alon
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turned him gay talking about Neil Patrick Harris, yeah, or
they you know, they had a thing and he used
his magic on him to allow him the courage or
whatever to come out and announce that he was gay. Yeah,
they say on the cover to the soundtrack to the show.
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There are three six's on the cover artwork. There's also
this film Brotherhood of the Bell that details a secret
society known as the Bell. The film depicts a successful
economics professor, doctor Andrew Patterson, who discovers that an elite
fraternity he joined as an undergraduate is really a callous
banking and business catbal that obtains wealth and power for
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its members through nefarious practices. Yeah. Interesting, yes, and I
mean it goes on, but that's sort of the jest
of it. I do have some other articles that are
along the same line, you know, like decoding Illuminati symbolism.
There's one here it's called the Occult and Illuminati Holiday Traditions,
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where it kind of goes back to this idea that
stars or celebrities. We can even go to the star
Whackers that Randy Quaid talked about, where there's some group
in Hollywood of hitmen for the Illuminati or for the CIA,
or for whoever it is who if you've crossed them,
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they will take you out. And he acclaims it's Heath
Ledger and all these and they're all done at specific dates,
specific times, and they're all symbols for those in the
note which is an Illuminati thing.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Which we go back to a lot of people that
we've talked about the strange Hollywood deaths, go back to
a lot of people think that it's the Hollywood whackers,
which sounds like a whole different thing than what they
mean it to be.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, it sounds like something that's going on in Van
Nye is not so much in Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Sounds like what pe Wee Herman was doing in the
movie Theater.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
But there is a segment of I'll say the conspiracy world,
and every now and then I think there may be
some legitimacy to this where because we talked about Kate
Spade at one point where there are some very strange
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circumstances that surround it. There's no explanation given, and there
are certain numbers and symbols that show up during this
period of demise that all linked to a certain thing.
I don't know what that thing is. A lot of
people say, oh, it's it's like a mob hit where
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they leave their mark, they let you know that it
was us. This isn't random, you know. So they would
leave a quarter on their eye, or they would shoot
them in a certain spot, or they would you know,
leave a calling card or something that said, hey, we
were here, and there's a big belief this happens in
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Hollywood as well, and so they're saying, according to this
theory that Dustin Diamond was one and some of these
others who have gone, you know, cuckoo off the reservation
are part of the breakdown from this Illuminati mind control situation,
which has also carried over into all the other programming
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we talked about. So yeah, so in a nutshell, say
by the Bell is seen as in this arena of conspiracies,
kind of the first of the modern wave of a show.
(53:52):
While it might not have been created by specifically i'll
say Illuminati members or people who are tied to the Illuminati,
the Illuminati used it. So that's one. That's one side.
The other side is is that no, they were involved,
and this was kind of a test case trial run
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for how they wanted to run these sort of teen shows,
preteen shows moving forward with all these stars to get
the you know, get the kids involved, get them hooked
in like a soap opera type thing, and then follow
these people, make stars outside of the show of these people,
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and then they go crazy and exhibit all kinds of
signs of you know, breakdown or they go super slutty,
or they go whatever. So it becomes chaotic to that person.
And I can see that in a way because if
you have a real emotional tie to a character that
you love watching, and there's always been this saying in
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at least in show business and music, you do not
want to meet your heroes. You will be disappointed. But
they no longer do you really have to go meet them.
They show them to you. They show you everything. They
want you to see the breakdowns, They want you to
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see them blowing up their careers. They want you to
see all of this because it shatters not only your
relationship with that character, and you're you know, following that
star whatever. It rocks your world, and then you become
unstable and who do we trust? Who do we believe?
Because I love that character and you know, they meant
so much to me, and I love that musician and
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their music, and it's such a disappointment and I don't
know what to do now. And as Brandon pointed out earlier,
if you have a breakdown to the family, like back
in my day, you'd go to your mom and your dad,
and that was your comfort. You know, they would explain
it to you say that's TV, it's fantasy, it's fake
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or whatever. But nowadays it's not fake. It's real to
these kids, to these you know, teens, tweens, whatever they are.
And I think we have a lot of them that
have grown up under that kind of spell. And that's
why where we're at today, where you can be whatever
you want. Everything's a fantasy. I can be a unicorn,
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I can live online, I can have my own truth,
my own reality, because that's how they lived. It's almost like, uh,
you know, split personality or some personality took over them
because they didn't have a guiding hand along the way
to say that's fake. And we don't put our trust
in and we don't worship these celebrities because yeah, they
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they're all messed up.
Speaker 5 (56:51):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's but that being said, let's get real with this
save by the bell thing.
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Well, one thing I gotta say to you before is
you mentioned the whole thing about the movies and TV
shows all showing the family, and then suddenly this was
the start of them showing not the family, but showing
the life in school with everything else. Mister Belding and
the teachers and everyone else fixed the problems. They did
all that. I think that was the beginning of what
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you see now where when there's a problem, people go
to their teachers. They don't go to their parents. So
now all of a sudden, you're seeing that whole thing
of parents losing that in a sense, trust and control
over the children. And it's become the teachers, and you
see what the teachers are teaching the kids, and white
(57:42):
people now are trying to pull their kids out of
public school and everything else because, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
We could go down a really dark rabbit hole in that,
because the teachers and the teachers' unions and the schools
are openly telling the kids, we won't tell your parents.
You come to us. We understand, we know who you are.
You are our kids.
Speaker 5 (58:07):
But I think this started. This is one of those
things that starts here. I agree this with giving the
kids the belief and the look of oh, hey, you
know all those shows where we talked about earlier family ties,
you know, different strokes, all of those shows you went
to your parents, and you talk to your parents, or
you talk to an aunt, you talk to an uncle,
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you talk to a family member, said hey, I'm having
these problems, and they helped you and they fixed it
for you, and they did what needed to be done.
You start seeing this show, you know, Saved by the Bell,
that suddenly changes that whole idea and it's no longer
going to the parents. They go to mister Belding, they
go to the teachers, they go to the principles. You
see this later on other shows. It became a theme
(58:53):
of shows inside the schools where the parents don't.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Exist, some of them. Even in some of the shows
In the Household, Yeah, it was you know, it was
the butler, or the it was the neighbor, or it
was it was rarely the parent rarely.
Speaker 5 (59:11):
Yeah, it became less and less as the nineties went
through of the parents. The parents were kind of there,
but not really. You even got like, you know, Fresh Prince,
it was uncle you know, Uncle Phil and Aunt Viv.
But the parents for him, really you weren't there. It
was the uncle, the aunt and the butler you know,
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and everything else. And you kind of see that devolving
on the TV shows The Nuclear Family.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yeah, oh, it completely broke down in i'll just say
fantasy Land of TV. And I honestly believe so if
we're gonna get to brass tacks on this. I think
a lot of this talk of, you know, whether it
was Zach's dream, or whether this is the Illuminati, or
whether they were all under mind control and so forth,
I don't know. I think some of it, like the
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numerology stuff and Dustin Diamond dying on Groundhog's Day, I
think that's all nonsense personally. But the true conspiracy here
and the true nefariousness, whether it's Illuminati pulling strings or
and when we say illuminati, we're not talking about the
Bavarian Illuminati. We're talking about the powers that be. We're
(01:00:23):
talking about those who are above everything, who are controlling,
and they control entertainment, they control the news, they controlled
all of that, and they're pushing a narrative. And you're
absolutely right. The real conspiracy here is is that this
show was the beginning by design, of showing American kids
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and the world you don't need your parents, trust us,
your principle, your teacher, the lunch lady, or whoever else
was in the school. We are here to help you.
We're gonna help you solve all your problems. Were actually
very nice, We're not Meani's and it actually, you know,
(01:01:09):
it broke down that student teacher barrier that I grew
up with. You go back and watch well, forget about
watching lived life as I did. There was like an
iron wall between us and teachers. I didn't even know
half my teachers were married, where they lived, did they
(01:01:32):
have kids, what? Nothing. I knew their name and that
was about it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, and that was me growing up. I pretty much.
It wasn't until high school. But in high school I
left the normal school and went to an alternative school
when it was only like fifteen kids in the whole school.
So we got to know the teachers a little bit,
but not deeply. We knew a little bit about them,
but you know, kind of that was it. But it
(01:01:58):
wasn't like nowadays it's like they you We didn't know
our teacher's values.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
That was one big thing, and nobody had no idea.
There was no teacher in my entire existence where we
all hung out after class and had deep conversations about
social issues or drugs or we're worried about so and so. Uh,
you know, what are we going to do because they're
having a bad That never happened. As soon as class
(01:02:26):
was over, you were gone. And as soon as school
was out, you were gone. I don't even think we
had a counselor in school that I remember. I don't
remember anybody ever going to the counselor. You went to
the principal. So I think that's the big conspiracy here.
I think that's the big problem. Now. I think some
people take that and go, you know, way off the
(01:02:49):
rails and start linking it to Alistair Crowley, and they start,
you know, going down some serious rabbit holes that are
very loosely tied together. And I'm not gonna say no,
like absolute no to that, but I'm given a pretty
solid note on a lot of the quote conspiracies, And honestly,
I don't really care about the conspiracies within the show.
(01:03:13):
Just what the show presented in its form was troublesome enough,
couched as a comedy for teens. And so that's the
problem I have. Was saved by the bell, and I
think a lot of the kids that were on the show,
that's the problem they had too. They were exposed to
a lot of things they shouldn't have been. These are
(01:03:34):
weird themes that were out of the norm for the time,
and all of a sudden they had. You know, there
was no social media or internet back then, but kids
around the United States loved them, worshiped them, wanted to
be them, wanted to be with them, and no kid
(01:03:58):
that age can handle that now, you know. They would
go do appearances at malls or you know, wherever here
there and they would just get mobbed and crushed, and
it was it was just too much to handle. So anyway,
I'd be curious about what everybody's thoughts on this. Did
you watch Save by the Bells? Any of this making sense?
(01:04:19):
Are you like me? Never watched it, have no really
no idea about this show, but can see from what
we're talking about the reality of the situation as to
the groundwork it laid for you know, a lot of
where we're at today. It's very wild.
Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I could see that, and I mean the whole idea,
the theories that they came to around a lot of them.
I'm like, yeah, I think you're reagion, I think you're
reaching far. But I think what we talked about it
did lay the groundwork for other things. So I think
in a lot of the ways where the whole idea
of the illuminati being behind the show, I don't think
it was directly. I think it was just the Hollywood
(01:04:58):
machine that is. In many ways we've mentioned and pointed out,
whether it's the Illuminati, the New Lizard Order, whatever, that
Hollywood machine is part of whatever group that is. And
we saw that with the Disney We've seen that with
other child actors and stuff like that, and this was
part of that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. So, if you would like
any of these links, some of them are, you know,
kind of humorous to go through because they're just way
out there, but other ones are it's a good detailed
look at this this topic, and you can email us
down the r H at ProtonMail dot com and we'll
be glad to send those out to you as usual. Brandon,
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you got the midweek.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Yes, I do. We'll have something fun.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
We'll look forward to that and in the meantime, everybody
will be back next week with the brand new episode.
I'm Big D and I'm Brandon. We're out of here.
See leta.
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to have everybody along. I hope well, especially those who
were in the US, had a wonderful Thanksgiving Canada. I know,
y'all's was like a month or so ago. It's like
early October, so you should be you should be over
(01:40):
it now, but we're still in the post Turkey trip
to fan Bliss.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, I've actually got a split piece soup cooking right
now with the leftover ham so nice.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, it's funny. I cooked. I cooked two turkeys. I
had brisket, sausage and a ham, and a buddy of
mine came over and he was like, I got DIBs
on the hambone. I said, did you buy that? I
bought that, but I need it for my split piece
soup and whatever else. And I said ten bucks, buddy, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Ten bucks. Yeah, I know, because it's funny. It's like
a tradition because like my entire I'm weird. I don't
like turkey. I've never liked turkey, so I'm a ham person.
So even at my sister's house when i'd go over
there before we moved, she would make a turkey or
a ham, or we would make a ham and bring it,
but either way it was a ham just because I
won't eat the turkey. And then whatever was left over
(02:34):
I always got, and I got the hambone and I
would go home and make a split pea soup the
next day.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why do you think I had brisket and sausage out there.
I'm not a huge turkey fan either. I'll eat it,
but it's once a year. It's not my favorite. And
I made a Cajun one and a traditional one and
everybody loved them. They turned out great, but I can't
have that much turkey. Really, it's not my favorite thing.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, we did because we went in and just went.
I went and visited some friends and it was we
had ham, lasagna, deviled eggs, and a couple other random things.
It was just like, whatever, this is the food we like.
None of us like turkey, so we're like, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I did think about I thought about smoking a basket,
but I'm just like, eh.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just read about this new thing that some people
are doing who don't like turkey, as they call it
sides giving, So it's just all sides, all your favorite sides,
and no turkey, which I'm down with that. I don't
really care.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
See, I think it should be like a brisket for Thanksgiving, yes,
primary for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm in that works.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I mean, we're changing it.
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And we don't endorse or get paid by or take
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so we just like to mention it.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, they are, and it's a great thing. And like
I said, if you like what we do, you'll love
what they do.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah. There's like three or four shows on that network
that I listened to on a pretty regular basis that
I enjoy, and they have tons of them. You'll find
something you like.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Today we're going to talk about something that I really
knew nothing about, honestly, and I kind of ran across
it again. I've seen it before and never really paid
attention to it, but I ran across it again when
I did a Midweek a while back on celebrity CIA
assets and this conspiracy controversy however you want to put
(05:01):
it came up again in my search for that, and
I just put it off to the side. And we're
going to look at it today.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, and it's one that I kind of seen it
pop up a couple of times but just never really
thought about looking into it till you mention it. Now
that I've looked around, like.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh, it's way deeper than I thought it would be.
Just by I'll just say some of the headlines I
saw and some references that people made to it. It's
not a show that I watched. We're going to talk
about this show Saved by the Bell, which was on
TV from nineteen eighty eight to roughly nineteen ninety three.
(05:37):
In its original package, they had some offshoots and some
specials and so forth. But Saved by the Bell this
TV show for preteens and you know, like early teens.
It was a huge deal when it came out and
when it was being aired, and a lot of the
characters from that show still live with people today who
(06:01):
watched that show.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, and it's one of those we talk about it
because it hit right about the time I was. I
was their age range that it was basically made for,
you know, just going into like high school stuff like that.
It came out, But it's not a show that I
watched a lot of I knew of it, and I
didn't watch, But I didn't watch a lot of it.
(06:24):
Partly too, because it's kind of one of those things,
like me and Big D mentioned that we're talking about
this earlier, is like people forget that back then, you
didn't have Netflix, you didn't have Hulu. You couldn't just say, oh,
I want to watch this show and then search for
it and binge it forever. You pretty much you were
there when it was on or you didn't see it,
so and I think this show was kind of at
(06:45):
one of those ones that was at a time that
I wasn't always home, so occasionally if it was I
was sitting at the TV and it was on, I
would watch it because I remember it kind of. But
I don't have a huge memory.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Of this show.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I do remember there was two of the girls that
I kind I really liked back then.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know. Well, one of the most famous personalities or
actors on Saved by the Bell was this guy named
Dustin Diamond. I did know who he was. He had
all kind of problems and he was an interesting character
in real life, and I mostly knew about him, oddly
enough from Howard Stern because he would show up on
(07:22):
Howard Stern. But my daughters, who when this was going
on in its original airing, were way too young, but
they did watch it later in the rerun form, which
is why I sort of knew what it was. I
knew what it was about. I never actually watched an episode.
(07:44):
I knew the theme song because it would play on
Disney Radio that my girls would listen to, and all
that kind of stuff, So I really had no clue
what the premise of the show was, who the characters were,
and now why there's some kind of controversy of about
this show. So doing this dive into it has opened
(08:05):
my eyes to some things that are kind of creepy, honestly,
And maybe this is why when you run into somebody
these days who grew up watching, say, By the Bell,
they are still latched onto these characters and the storylines
because it was kind of a soap opera for kids,
(08:25):
not in a serious way, but like a comedy drama thing.
They would touch on social issues, and it was at
this fictional high school, and it was all the inner
drama of high school jocks and nerds and all that
kind of stuff. In fact, according to Wikipedia says in
later years, Saved by the Bell was classified as educational
(08:47):
and informational.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's like a stretch, but okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Like I said, I never watched it, so I don't
know what kind of education they were given out. But
the show was also named one of the twenty best
school shows of all time by AOL TV. How many
school shows have there been, I don't know, but it's
in there. But it was undoubtedly popular. There's no doubt
(09:12):
about this.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
It was a lot of people. Remember, I mean, anyone
my age, we remember it. I mean you knew it.
You knew about it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So if you're like me and you did not watch
this show, sort of the crux of the show was
this protagonist named Zach Morris, and he could literally stop
time and then get away with anything he wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Pretty much. He and it's not I don't know if
he would stopped time to get away with it is more,
but there was. He would break the fourth wall.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Lot, right, And that was a new concept that was
being introduced to I'll say kids, this fourth the idea
of a fourth wall? What is this fourth wall? Was
it kind of like a time warp thing? Could see.
I didn't watch it, so I'm only reading these things.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It was more of it, if I remember right, It
was more and less of a time wark thing, but
more of it, Like everything around him would stop, right,
and then he would talk to the camp like the
audience and say, oh hey, you know, and make some
point in some way and then go back and then
all of a sudden everything would start back up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So he didn't really take advantage of this, like go
over and change the grades on his paper, don't I remember, Well,
he's an idiot. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Remember him doing that. But at most it was just
like a fourth wall break.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So apparently there was a show prior to Saved by
the Belt called Good Morning, Miss Bliss. Never heard of it,
don't remember it ever being on. It was only on
for one season, but it was in some ways a prequel.
It did not get picked up for a second season.
They rebooted it and then they named it Saved by
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the Belt and they moved it from Indiana to California.
Oddly enough, some of the care from the first one
moved with the show, so they were in Indiana during
the first season, and then when Say by the Bell started,
they're magically transported over to La. Yeah, we're going to
go through some of the i'll say theories first, and
(11:20):
then we're going to get into the conspiracy and the
dark conspiracy about this show. So you'll have to help
me with this, Brandon, because honestly, I did not watch
the show, so I don't even know some of these
characters that they're talking about. Yeah. One of the theories
is that mister Belding is the actual savior prophesied in
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the title of the show. Oh so a bunch of
fans or whatever believe that the show's title connotes the
importance of mister Belding's character. No matter what the kids
get up to, he always gets it sort of. According
to this, when the students deal with real issues from
(12:04):
substances to bullies, gambling, eating disorders, mister Belding is always
there to save the day. His name quote bell and
the sound it makes ding can note his being the
real heart of the show, mister Belding. So there's that theory.
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One of the more popular ones, though, is this idea
that the main character, the Zach Morris, the whole thing's
a dream. Some people will even go to the lyrics
of the opening theme song to flesh this idea out.
But according to this, it said in the first series,
Zach deals with the trials and tribulations of you know,
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normal stuff. He has all this trouble in say, by
the bell poof all his problems are gone. This fantasy
world of his likely takes place in his head every
day once his real school day is over, and he
feels like he is saved by the bell so he
can leave and retreat into this made up life where
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he's good at everything and never gets in trouble. And
there's some lyrical content in the opening theme that apparently
lends some credence to this. Another one is there's a
character on the show called Tory. The theory is is
that Tory was a cop and Screech and Lisa took
her life. Oh so, apparently she was one of Zach's,
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the main character's love interest, and she mysteriously disappears from
the show without a trace.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I do remember that, and people talk about that she
was like a love interest, I think in the first
or second season and then suddenly just no explanation, no nothing.
She's there one episode and I think she there was
something that was like a storyline that was like in
the middle of a storyline with her, and then all
of a sudden, just well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
According to this theory, they believe that she and Violet
from season two were both undercover cops. When Lisa and
Screech found out, they took out the faux students so
their illicit caffeine pill business could thrive. There's another theory
that Saved by the Bell is a sci fi show
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about a teen supervillain. Zach Morris is the superhuman who
has a superhuman charisma of a vampire. On top of that,
he scored over fifteen hundred on the sat As. No
mere mortal could possess all these powers. Zach must be
(14:38):
a sci fi supervillain. There's also another theory that Zack
Morris died in Indiana and that True Detective. The show
True Detective proves it. Here's this theory. They believe that
Zach Morris perished in junior high back in the Good
Morning Miss Bliss days, so that he never even made
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it to the main series. Saved by the Bell is
in fact a perfect afterlife created by an eighth grade
boy in which his dream of being the coolest guy
in school is realized. The person who has come up
with this theory says the proof is in the show's opening,
which features a spiral symbol later seen in the series
(15:19):
True Detective. It is said to represent life cycles, the
old ending so that the new may arise.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Huh see, I've heard that theory very similarly, except it
wasn't that he died, it's that he's asleep, that he's
taking in that he's This is a dream that Zach
and Indiana is having about what life would be like
if he wasn't. Because from most stuff that I read,
because I don't remember good Morning, Mistress call or whatever
it is, I don't are miss blessed, I don't remember that,
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but from what I read on it, it seemed like
Zach wasn't the cool kid that he is and saved
by the bell. But he's like the cool like hip
whatever where everyone loves him. He was like an unpopular kid.
So this was the dream of becoming a popular kid
and being the it guy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So here's another dark conspiracy belief here is that mister Belding.
I think I'm saying that Ryan Belding. Is that how
you say it?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, it was Belding.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Theory is that mister Belding took the life of Miss
Bliss and that Zach, Lisa, and Screech witnessed it. The
way this theory goes is they believe that mister Belding
accidentally pushed Miss Bliss to her demise and Screech, Zach
and Lisa saw it happen, and to escape conviction, he
convinced the kids and their families to move to California
on scholarship. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's his little out there.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They could find you in California if you were gonna
escape and go somewhere to be undercover, it certainly wouldn't
be in the like some fictional La town.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, and you change names and all that kind of stuff,
But which I do think it's interesting that you know
that it was. There are the four characters that came
over from Miss Bless. So you got Lisa, Turtle, Screech, Zach, Morris,
and mister Belding all came over from Missus Bless and they, like,
like you said, they retooled the whole thing but kept
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those four characters.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Could be again, I don't know any of these characters.
I'm just going by what I'm reading.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I just know from like reading that those four characters
were in Miss Bliss. Yes, and they said that those
four characters they carried over into Save by the Bell,
But there's no explanation on.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
How they got there. Yeah, why were they continuation, why
were they in Indiana, and then next year all of
them they're not siblings or anything.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
They're different families whatever. All of a sudden they all
moved across the country. Do you know, to La and
just that it's weird. But it's one of those things
that I mean, it's not technically they don't say it's
a continuation to the other Shi, but I mean it's
a retooling I guess of the other show.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah. According to the US Sun, this idea that Saved
by the Bell has a conspiracy theory. Their whole thing
is about this dream scape, that this is a dream
of Zach Morris, it says in this article and both shows,
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Zach is somewhat of a troublemaker, but on Good Morning
Miss Blissy tended to be more reserved and often had
problems with girls. This was not the case was Saved
by the Bell. On that show, Zach was the alpha
of his friend group and was one of the most
popular kids in the school. The differences between the two
shows have caused fans to believe that Saved by the
Bell never happened. They say, instead, the show only existed
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in the mind of a less popular and more awkward
Zach Morris. Now here's where it gets into this conspiracy
about the lyrics of this opening theme song. So I'll
read these lyrics that they're referring to quote. By the
time I grab my books and I give myself a look,
I'm at the corner, just in time to see the
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bus fly by. It's all right, because I'm saved by
the bell. If the teacher pops a test, I know
I'm in a mess, and my dogs ate all my
homework last night, writing low in my chair, she won't
know I'm there. If I can handle it tomorrow, it
will be all right. And according to this these lyrics
essentially conflict with Zack's saved by the Bell personality. For example,
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in the show, if a teacher surprises the class with
a pop quiz, Zach would not be in a mess.
He would instead persuade the teacher to turn it into
a competition that he was able to pass. Fans believe
that the song's chorus is what releases Zach from his
dream and brings him back to his own reality as
a nerdy student who can't catch a break, and that
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essentially Bayside High School would just be a figment of
his imagination. And I've seen that multiple times. This idea
that this guy Zach in the original This Good Morning,
Miss Bliss was kind of awkward and he was not
super cool and he was prone to daydreaming or whatever
(20:17):
in that. And again I didn't watch it, but this
is what I'm reading, and that would not happen a lot.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And Save by the Bell he would daydream and then
have these crazy elaborate daydreams that would pop up.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Right. So the idea is then that what you're watching
and Save by the Bell wasn't really happening, although they
didn't ever tell you, hey, this is his dream, but
that in reality, if there was such a thing, because
it's a TV show, all of this, say By the Bell,
him being an alpha male, being popular, being good looking
(20:53):
and all this stuff, there's a fantasy that he's having. Yeah,
and you're just along for the ride.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Well, I mean it's one of those things too, I
mean even I mean, I don't know if you saw
this one. In an interview Zach Moore, the guy who
played Zach Morris, Mark Paul Gosler, said that Zach Morris
was the darkest character he ever played.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Which is an odd statement. It is because if you
look at and it's like, it's not that I'd never
seen parts of the show, so I'm familiar with his character.
And he was always wearing bright colored clothes. He had
the sandy blonde hair. You know. He was a good
looking kid and very popular and all the girls wooed
(21:32):
over him and so forth. So you would not think
of that character as being a dark character at all.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Now, well, there's a whole thing. There's a whole web
series that went for like five years by Dashield DRIs
School who called Zach Morris's Trash and it talked about
how Zach Morrison his character. But in the interview with
Mark Paul Gossler, he was talking about because he's in
a TV show called Found where he played a really
dark character, and they asked the darkest character I ever played,
(22:01):
and he said, no, I think it belongs to Zach
Morris when I asked her as his darkest character. If
you've ever watched Zach Morris's Trash on the YouTube by
Deschell Driscoll, he wrote, Zach Morris's Trash and he's not
wrong about a lot of the things. Zach Morris master manipulator,
some nefarious activities I think I was bred to play
roles like sir, just because I started my career playing
one of the most nefarious characters on television. Of course,
(22:24):
that's tongue in cheek, but you know the way that
Dashchell were exposed to Zach Fall's bad behavior, He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, that's an interesting statement, I think based on that character.
And look, we've done shows about how behind the scenes
at Disney and Nickelodeon and so forth, there were some
very dark forces that are working behind the scenes on
a lot of those shows and with those young actors.
I mean, that's not a secret.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
No, And that's one of those things that we've talked
about this when we talk about the Disney actresses and
stuff like that, and look how they like wants the
programming broke the things that happen, And I mean, if
you look at like the characters and actors and actresses
from Saved by the Bell, some of them went on
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to be okay and stuff others broke.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Dustin Diamond. You read his book, and I have not
read the entire book, but I've read excerpts. If you're
to believe any of it, or even a portion of it,
he wrote a tell all book about some of the
crazy stuff going on. Now that's been challenged by multiple
people and multiple sources. He claims that it was his
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ghost writer who made up a bunch of the stuff.
But did they like is that just the fallback of well,
you know, I don't want to get in trouble and
people are pissed off because I talked a lot about
the Orgies and all the crazy stuff that was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And you wonder that because how many actors or actress
to be seen who have suddenly raised their hand basically
and said, Hey, look at this shit that's happening over here,
and then all of a sudden they're deemed as crazy
in their careers just nose dive. And it makes you wonder,
did Dustin Diamond be like, hey, I'm going to expose
all of this and then all of a sudden he
exposed and they're all like, hey, you're blacklisted. Then he's like,
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I was kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
He was blacklisted. In fact, he was so blacklisted that
he lost his house. He this is how I know
him from Howard Stern. I remember when he went on
Howard Stern and he was selling these T shirts. He
wanted everybody to give him like fifteen bucks so he
could get his house out of foreclosure or something, and
you bought this T shirt from him that said I
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helped Dustin Diamond save his house or something like that,
or I helped Screech save his house something like that.
And it didn't work. He didn't get enough money, but
he had a hard time, and he was, by all accounts,
one of the more popular characters on that show. You
would think you would have gone on to do other things.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
You would think. But the other thing is too is
I will be honest, most things I've read and seen
about Dustin Diamond and being in a comic world because
he would go on tour as a comic and do
that kind of stuff. He was a prack.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, and that doesn't help obviously, So.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I mean that might be part of the problem, but
there could be that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, maybe there's a reason, because now we're going to
get into the darker bowels of this conspiracy here, and
this is where things turn into a whole nother region.
According to Conspiracyrealist dot com, they have an article the
Saved by the Bell Illuminati conspiracy and I'm thinking, what
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what would say by the Bell have to do? With
anything Illuminati.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, we've talked about before how Hollywood hides things
to try and you know, to mind mess with your
mind and get you to think things and everything like that.
And I mean, what better way to start than with
the children, right?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So, according to this article, it says episode plots are
dissected for hidden meanings and messages. Storylines involving mind controls,
subliminal messaging, and the pursuit of power and influence are
highlighted as reflections of Illuminati goals and methods. For instance,
the episode where Zach uses subliminal messages to influence his
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peers choice is pointed to as a direct nod to
the supposed methods employed by the Illuminati to control the masses. Yep,
they say. The Saved by the Bell Illuminati theory is
not monolithic. It branches into various interpretations and offshoots. Some
versions focus on the numerology within the show, analyzing episode numbers, dates,
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and times for hidden meanings. Others delve into per personal
lives and careers of the cast members post Say by
the Bell, suggesting that their success in the entertainment industry
is tied to their participation in this alleged Illuminati project,
and I did see a lot of that. Also, a
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more nuanced interpretation suggests that the show, rather than being
a direct Illuminati creation, I do believe that's important. They
do not believe that it was a direct Illuminati creation,
but it reflects the industry's broader tendency to incorporate occult
and esoteric symbols, consciously or unconsciously, due to the pervasive
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influence of such imagery and popular culture. And it's interesting
that line right there, because the symbol that we were
talking about just a moment ago, the kind of swirly
symbol that is also brought up a lot during Pizzagate,
that very very symbol that showed up in well lots
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of teen shows and cartoons. So people have been noticing
this stuff. Furthermore, the narrative and thematic elements of the
show that are flagged as quote evidence of the Illuminati
influence can be found in many other television shows of
the time, suggesting that these are not unique or deliberate insertions,
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but rather common tropes and storytelling devices of the era.
So this person's basically saying it's not unique to say
by the Bell it was something that was common during
that time, sort of a way of telling stories. But
I will say this during that time, during the mid
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to late eighties and specifically through the nineties, where we
saw this again sudden rise of the new Mickey Mouse
Club and all the Disney programming you had at least
like Saved by the Bell, which was on NBC, and
all of these sort of preteen two teen dramedies that
came out of nowhere were a total leap in a
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different direction from what was going on when I was
a kid, where you had like Growing Pains, and you
had you Know, What's Happening, and you had I don't know,
you know, just those kind of shows. But they were comedies.
They were funny. They might have a social issue attached
to it, but there were no symbols or like, there
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was no conspiracies around them in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And most of those were based on families. They were
family like you watched all those you know, all those
Growing Pains, you know, all those shows, because that's kind
of I remember those shows, and then I also remember
stuff like Save by the Bell because I'm like writing
that middle generation where I kind of caught all of them,
those shows like you said, they were family. They were
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all family oriented. You saw their families sitting around the
table eating. It was all the nuclear family that we
all believed.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, and even if the kids were I don't know,
say adopted or they were like the Brady Bunch where
the mom and the dad had kids from you know,
different marriages, and I think their spouses had passed away,
but they got together. But we were starting to see
sort of this infusion of sort of blended families, but
they were all families. Every show up to that point
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was about a family unit and they may have a
friend down the street that is from a broken home,
but you know, that was kind of you're supposed to
feel sorry for them and everybody's helping them along kind
of thing. The mid to late eighties through the nineties,
all of that blew up. Yeah, and the kids were
separated and the only adults that were around them were teachers, coaches,
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some guy in the block, or the bus driver or
it was never the well, I shouldn't say never, it
was rarely the parents.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yeah, and you see that in all the TV shows,
and it's really just kind of became that thing that
and I think it was just normalizing things for those generations, like, oh, hey,
we really don't have the nuclear family anymore, so we're
gonna put this into your shows, so it it normalizes, Yes,
what the family unit has become.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that, and that has
been a as we've talked about when we did our
Illuminati series, that is a goal of the Illuminati or
the powers that be to break up the family union.
Because if you can break up the family unit, whether
it be through divorces or just both parents working all
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the time, or however it is, and the kids are
being raised by the TV and the schools in pop
culture and music and so forth, well you take over
all of those institutions you have the kids because the
parents aren't with them hardly at all. And so a
lot of people are going back and looking at this
Saved by the Bell as sort of the beginning of
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this or the precursor to that movement, which we still
see today. I mean, it's still going on according to
Illuminati watcher dot com. And if you go down this
rabbit hole, you will see a lot of people point
to this article. This is kind of the definitive article
on this entire thing. Yes, so we're gonna break it down.
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We're gonna go kind of point by point on this thing,
because this was put out in twenty fourteen, I believe
twenty thirteen, twenty four fourteen, anyway.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Twenty fourteen, and then updated a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But yeah, oh yeah, I was updated I think right
after Dustin Diamond died. Yeah, So we'll start with that
because this will give you an idea to where this
is going. The guy who writes this, his name is
Isaac Weisshap w E I Shaupt, And if you would
like a link to this, I would be glad to
send it to you. Just email us and we'll get
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that out to you. But it's called say by the Bell, Illuminati,
Satan worship, sex magic, and other conspiracy theories. So he
starts with this update about Dustin Diamond, who died at
age forty four on February first, twenty twenty one. And
according to this Isaac Weisshap, the occult significance for this
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date is that it's a pagan sacrifice holiday known as
m bog Imbolg. And he has a book out called
a Grand Unified Conspiracy where he sort of explains this
pagan sacrifice thing. He says, the annual tradition of the
Groundhog Day and the divination of the future has a
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much deeper, darker occult meaning than one would realize. You
take a look at all of the holidays celebrated on
a regular basis, you'll see that they tie into God
and goddess worship by the occultis And he has a
quote here quote. A Protestant minister named Alexander Hisslop wrote
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a book entitled The Two Babylons in eighteen fifty three
in which he postulated that the Semaramas was an actual
person from Mesopotamia and was the one responsible for the
belief of multiple gods and goddesses. The significance of Semaramas
is that she is the root of all of the
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worship behind gods and goddesses. All of the gods and
goddesses ultimately refer back to this goddess Semaramas and her
counterpart God Nimrod. So he is claiming that Dustin Diamond,
who died on Groundhog's Day, was basically a pagan sacrificial ritual.
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And I have seen this not just with Dustin Diamond,
but a lot of celebrities, people who are really into
the numerology side of these conspiracies. There's a guy on
YouTube called Black Balloon, and he does this all the time.
It's all about numbers, it's all about dates, it's all
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about significance of the dates and the ties. And he
follows celebrities and when they die and on what day
or what time or the room number. I mean, he
goes really elaborate into it. And that's essentially what this
Isaac Weishaup is saying here is that Dustin Diamond was sacrificed.
But according to the original posts, this was the original
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article says one of the best nineties shows was Saved
by the Bell. He talks about what it was about.
He said, nonetheless, the show was a good time if
you were into it back then, so I had much
excitement to see that there's this conspiracy. He talks about
the escape of Zach Morris and that it's all just
a fantasy and so forth. So then he says the
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main character, Zach Morris, graduates with an SAT score of
one thousand, five hundred and two, which is quote considered average,
and then gets accepted into none other than Gale University.
Home of the Illuminati secret society Skull and Bones. Some
claim that he wouldn't have been able to get into
Yale with that low of an SAT score. Mark Paul Gossler,
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who plays Zach Morris, and some theorists claim that he
and Paul Walker are one and the same. Not so
obscure if you consider that Paul Walker was in The
Skull and Bones in his film The Skulls. Well.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
The one thing too with the SAT score is a
lot of people and I saw a lot of people
make that cut. Well, the highest score you can get
a sixteen hundred. So a fifteen hundred is good. That's
today's Yeah, scaling a fifteen hundred back in like what
year that would have been two thousand, it would have
been ninety two, Yeah, ninety three. So a score of
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fifteen hundred that that was about average because the old
point scale was twenty four hundred was the high.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So yeah, So this Paul Walker, there's a death conspiracy
theory around this too. Quote. There are claims that his
film history shows ties to the secret societies and therefore
the Illuminati. He was in The Fast and the Furious
car films, which shares the same name as the ATF
Operation Fast and Furious, where there was a cover up
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in the secretive op to trade guns with the Mexican
cartel in order to track guns and then arrest high
ranking members of the cartel. Walker was also in The Skulls,
which was about the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale.
The Skull and Bones has ties to right wing and
multiple politicians, including members of PNAC, George Bush, John Kerry
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and all kinds of people. They're basically saying there's a
connection there that's subtle, but not so subtle if you
dig just below the surface. Also, zax Wingman Slater, who
was played by Mario Lopez, was also implicated in a
conspiracy that he and Mark Paul were killed in a
car crash eerily similar to Paul Walker. According to website
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Oh No they didn't, and I have the link to
that as well, says did you hear that Paul, Mark
Gossler and Mario Lopez died in a car accident? You
may have around nineteen ninety three, when rumors of the
Star's demise spread like wildfire across the nation's middle schools.
Of course, the stars of Saved by the Bell are
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all doing fine and have gone on to lucrative careers,
but the public stirs for grizzly death rumors about bluff
stars has not been assotiated. In nineteen nine, Blues Clues
host Steve Burns suffered a heroin quote heroin overdose, and
just a few months ago Tom Hanks supposedly fell off
a cliff, and that's according to Gwynn Watkins. As the
article points out, the other stars of the show went
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down that similar child star Disney path of doing odd
and eccentric things, such as Screech starring in a porno
and Elizabeth Berkley being a stripper in the film Showgirls.
Some claim that the Disney stars get doses of mind
control and they break down over time and start doing
wild stuff like drugs or amateur porno, and that is true,
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the breakdown that they have, or it's a humiliation ritual.
You have to do this, because we've talked about the
entire modern Mousketeer group and they all did crazy stuff
like this, the nude shoots, which like, why would you
have to do that? Went crazy, sold their souls for
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fame or whatever, and we went through all that, and
they're claiming this was sort of the beginning of that,
because Dustin Diamond did I guess an amateur, I don't know.
I apparently he did a porno. I know Mario Lopez
did some odd stuff as well that I read.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Yeah, he did some odd things, but he didn't go
as far off the rails as Dustin Diamond did. And
then what is her name? Lark vorhees, she's gone like
just posting random weird stuff she's done, but I've also
read that she's had problems with drugs.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Well. And Elizabeth Berkeley, I mean when she when show
Girls came out, that was a huge deal at the time.
Everybody panned it. It was an awful film. I never
saw it, but it got slammed as being terrible. However,
she was the reason everybody went to see that film
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because it did well in the box office. And then
she went on this I remember she did this late
night talk show of tour and was completely acting slutty
the entire time, like she dove into her character and
she went on like Jay Leno and a letterman and
few things and just sludied the whole thing up.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Well, and I think it's one of those things too.
And you're here basically like you know, she her character
in the show was as straight laced as could be. Like,
I think there's a whole episode where basically that they
have a whole thing because she gets like addicted to
caffeine pills. It is like the worst thing she does
in her entire the entire series, right, Like she is
the smart, straight laced and then for her to step
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out in the very next project she does, she's a
stripper and then she like but like you said, she
went off the rails as like not just in the show,
in a movie, but like on the tour, she's just everything.
And it's like, oh, like she wanted to get away
from that type cast as far as she could, and
she basically in a lot of sense their career.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a very similar to
me in what Miley Cyrus. Did you know? Miley Cyrus
was a little miss Sunshine or whatever on her show
which her dad was on. Yeah, and then decided I'm
just going to shatter this into a million pieces and
be as nasty as I can. Yeah, and it just
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you know, shocks Everybody's like, how does that even happen? Well,
they're saying they're pointing back to this show and saying
this was kind of the this was kind of the
blueprint that was being set forward.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, and that's that's the tough part with a lot
of that is it's that you either the blueprint or
the argument that they try and come back with is
because they're in a lot of ways by being on
the show, their childhood's taken away and then they end
up rebelling and then they just like go off through us,
kind of like a Preacher's daughter or you know, they
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always talk about like the Preacher's daughter and the Preacher's
cads are the ones go like off the rails, And
they say, in a lot of ways, this is what
happens with the Disney and all these child stars is
they're not allowed to do things. But I think it's
the other way. I think they're they're allowed to do
things that they shouldn't be doing, and they are also
things are happening to them that shouldn't be and then
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they that's absolutely mine, that's a fact right there.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, they're not being they're not being sheltered from anything.
They're being exposed to way too much stuff that they
should not ever be exposed to. Yeah, So do you
know who this Lark Vorhees is.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Yeah, she was the one, like I said, she went
kind of nutty.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Was her name? Lisa Turtle in the was her character? Yeah,
okay and all reality.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
What's funny too, is the two that I really like.
I thought Lisa Turtle was. She's the one I liked,
and then it was of course Amberson.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But you know, well, according to this article and I
did look it up, I found several pictures of her,
and one of the things when she kind of went
off the rails as you referred to, she did some
interviews with like TMZ Entertainment Tonight and a whole bunch
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of you know, like teen magazines and so forth, and
she was trying to, I guess, maybe do a comeback
or something. But she was making weird statements. She was rambling.
And one of the things that she did often was
this six sixty six hand symbol, kind of like the
okay with the with the three fingers extended.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
According to Tex Mars, who I think is quite good
in his book Decoding the Illuminati Symbolism, the All Seeing
I in sixty six to six hand gesture, he says
the OK sign has the o, which is a symbol
for the sun, while it also symbolizes the female genitalia
in tantric yoga. This esure shows spiritual and physical ecstasy
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that Aleister Crowley sort of invented this. He was into
yoga and you know, his magic, trance and all this stuff.
Says getting back to Crowley, his interest in the occult
and magic continued as he proceeded into these yoga and tantra.
It all rolls back to this god goddess thing and
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the Antichrist and Satan worship and all this stuff. And
this symbol that they throw up is in reference to
him and his sex, magic tantric practices, which of course
go back to him trying to be the beast and
worship Satan and all that stuff. Yeah, I did find
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this interesting. I think I did a show a long
time ago on backmasking, where you play music backwards and
so forth, and that was really big, really big in
the late seventies early eighties. Everybody was freaked out about
back masking and what could you hear on led Zeppelin
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albums and so forth. Well, according to this, the theme song
can be back masked, and if you play it backwards,
you can hear and I miss my satan. We're all saved.
That is apparently in the back masked version.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
And I'll be honest, I heard someone play it backwards
and everything I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Nothing see much of back masking unless it's put their intentional.
And this is coming from somebody who if it was
actually going on, I would know. I've been there, I've
seen it. I've been in recording studios. I've talked to
bands who have been as high up as you can
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go in the industry. It's the power of suggestion. Ninety
percent of the time. I've done this exercise with different albums,
not rock bands, country, classical albums like crooners, you know,
like Sinatra type stuff. Yeah, I've done it with non
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rock bands like Prince and so forth, where I have
played entire albums backwards. Oh, you can find all kind
of stuff in there. You can find pretty much anything
you want. You can isolate a section and believe you
heard this. And if you tell somebody, hey, listen to
this and see if you hear, and then you give
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them the phrase, well that's what they're looking for. Yeah, Oh,
I can kind of hear that if you just play
it to them and say, hey, I'm going to play
this for you. You tell me what this is saying
the vast majority of the time, I think almost every time,
they're like, I don't know, or they'll come up with
something completely different. And there were bands who actually intentionally
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put that stuff in because once it became a thing,
they're like, well, let's freak people out.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
Yeah, that's a mess with them.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Elo Is one did it on purpose. Floyd has some stuff,
and there's a lot of them that did it on purpose.
And it's kind of funny, I think. But to say
by the bell thing, I think they're reaching really hard
on this there. According to this article, as well, ed
Alonzo played Max, who was a magician on the show.
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According to this article, the Illuminati they believe that magic
is reality. They cast spells, perform invocations with spirits, et cetera,
and they attempt these publicly on shows like this so
that the young and impressionable become part of the ritual.
So it turns out that in Dustin Diamond's book that
he claims that ed Alonzo performed some kind of Illuminati
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sex magic with Neil Patrick Harris code word for a
gay relationship or at least encounter and this is the
quote that they give here. Quote. This one was probably
my favorite. It's about Ed Alonzo, who played the most
useless character of Max during the early years of Saved
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by the Bell. Max would always do magic on the show,
which corresponded to Alonzo being a magician in real life. Well,
Neil Patrick Harris has always been a big fan of magic.
In fact, now as an adult, he's on board of
the famous Magic Castle, and all the magic that Barney
does on How I Meet Your Mother is inspired by
Harris's real life skills. So, according to Dustin Diamond, Alonzo
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wound up spending a lot of time with Harris, a
lot of time for a while. They were inseparable, going
away to perform magic together, conjuring their mystical spells of enchantment.
It wasn't until years later that Neil Patrick Harris announced
he was gay. So, according to Dustin Diamond, either alon
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turned him gay talking about Neil Patrick Harris, yeah, or
they you know, they had a thing and he used
his magic on him to allow him the courage or
whatever to come out and announce that he was gay. Yeah,
they say on the cover to the soundtrack to the show.
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There are three six's on the cover artwork. There's also
this film Brotherhood of the Bell that details a secret
society known as the Bell. The film depicts a successful
economics professor, doctor Andrew Patterson, who discovers that an elite
fraternity he joined as an undergraduate is really a callous
banking and business catbal that obtains wealth and power for
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its members through nefarious practices. Yeah. Interesting, yes, and I
mean it goes on, but that's sort of the jest
of it. I do have some other articles that are
along the same line, you know, like decoding Illuminati symbolism.
There's one here it's called the Occult and Illuminati Holiday Traditions,
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where it kind of goes back to this idea that
stars or celebrities. We can even go to the star
Whackers that Randy Quaid talked about, where there's some group
in Hollywood of hitmen for the Illuminati or for the CIA,
or for whoever it is who if you've crossed them,
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they will take you out. And he acclaims it's Heath
Ledger and all these and they're all done at specific dates,
specific times, and they're all symbols for those in the
note which is an Illuminati thing.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Which we go back to a lot of people that
we've talked about the strange Hollywood deaths, go back to
a lot of people think that it's the Hollywood whackers,
which sounds like a whole different thing than what they
mean it to be.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, it sounds like something that's going on in Van
Nye is not so much in Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Sounds like what pe Wee Herman was doing in the
movie Theater.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
But there is a segment of I'll say the conspiracy world,
and every now and then I think there may be
some legitimacy to this where because we talked about Kate
Spade at one point where there are some very strange
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circumstances that surround it. There's no explanation given, and there
are certain numbers and symbols that show up during this
period of demise that all linked to a certain thing.
I don't know what that thing is. A lot of
people say, oh, it's it's like a mob hit where
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they leave their mark, they let you know that it
was us. This isn't random, you know. So they would
leave a quarter on their eye, or they would shoot
them in a certain spot, or they would you know,
leave a calling card or something that said, hey, we
were here, and there's a big belief this happens in
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Hollywood as well, and so they're saying, according to this
theory that Dustin Diamond was one and some of these
others who have gone, you know, cuckoo off the reservation
are part of the breakdown from this Illuminati mind control situation,
which has also carried over into all the other programming
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we talked about. So yeah, so in a nutshell, say
by the Bell is seen as in this arena of conspiracies,
kind of the first of the modern wave of a show.
(53:52):
While it might not have been created by specifically i'll
say Illuminati members or people who are tied to the Illuminati,
the Illuminati used it. So that's one. That's one side.
The other side is is that no, they were involved,
and this was kind of a test case trial run
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for how they wanted to run these sort of teen shows,
preteen shows moving forward with all these stars to get
the you know, get the kids involved, get them hooked
in like a soap opera type thing, and then follow
these people, make stars outside of the show of these people,
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and then they go crazy and exhibit all kinds of
signs of you know, breakdown or they go super slutty,
or they go whatever. So it becomes chaotic to that person.
And I can see that in a way because if
you have a real emotional tie to a character that
you love watching, and there's always been this saying in
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at least in show business and music, you do not
want to meet your heroes. You will be disappointed. But
they no longer do you really have to go meet them.
They show them to you. They show you everything. They
want you to see the breakdowns, They want you to
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see them blowing up their careers. They want you to
see all of this because it shatters not only your
relationship with that character, and you're you know, following that
star whatever. It rocks your world, and then you become
unstable and who do we trust? Who do we believe?
Because I love that character and you know, they meant
so much to me, and I love that musician and
(55:43):
their music, and it's such a disappointment and I don't
know what to do now. And as Brandon pointed out earlier,
if you have a breakdown to the family, like back
in my day, you'd go to your mom and your dad,
and that was your comfort. You know, they would explain
it to you say that's TV, it's fantasy, it's fake
(56:03):
or whatever. But nowadays it's not fake. It's real to
these kids, to these you know, teens, tweens, whatever they are.
And I think we have a lot of them that
have grown up under that kind of spell. And that's
why where we're at today, where you can be whatever
you want. Everything's a fantasy. I can be a unicorn,
(56:26):
I can live online, I can have my own truth,
my own reality, because that's how they lived. It's almost like, uh,
you know, split personality or some personality took over them
because they didn't have a guiding hand along the way
to say that's fake. And we don't put our trust
in and we don't worship these celebrities because yeah, they
(56:49):
they're all messed up.
Speaker 5 (56:51):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's but that being said, let's get real with this
save by the bell thing.
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Well, one thing I gotta say to you before is
you mentioned the whole thing about the movies and TV
shows all showing the family, and then suddenly this was
the start of them showing not the family, but showing
the life in school with everything else. Mister Belding and
the teachers and everyone else fixed the problems. They did
all that. I think that was the beginning of what
(57:21):
you see now where when there's a problem, people go
to their teachers. They don't go to their parents. So
now all of a sudden, you're seeing that whole thing
of parents losing that in a sense, trust and control
over the children. And it's become the teachers, and you
see what the teachers are teaching the kids, and white
(57:42):
people now are trying to pull their kids out of
public school and everything else because, oh.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
We could go down a really dark rabbit hole in that,
because the teachers and the teachers' unions and the schools
are openly telling the kids, we won't tell your parents.
You come to us. We understand, we know who you are.
You are our kids.
Speaker 5 (58:07):
But I think this started. This is one of those
things that starts here. I agree this with giving the
kids the belief and the look of oh, hey, you
know all those shows where we talked about earlier family ties,
you know, different strokes, all of those shows you went
to your parents, and you talk to your parents, or
you talk to an aunt, you talk to an uncle,
(58:28):
you talk to a family member, said hey, I'm having
these problems, and they helped you and they fixed it
for you, and they did what needed to be done.
You start seeing this show, you know, Saved by the Bell,
that suddenly changes that whole idea and it's no longer
going to the parents. They go to mister Belding, they
go to the teachers, they go to the principles. You
see this later on other shows. It became a theme
(58:53):
of shows inside the schools where the parents don't.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Exist, some of them. Even in some of the shows
In the Household, Yeah, it was you know, it was
the butler, or the it was the neighbor, or it
was it was rarely the parent rarely.
Speaker 5 (59:11):
Yeah, it became less and less as the nineties went
through of the parents. The parents were kind of there,
but not really. You even got like, you know, Fresh Prince,
it was uncle you know, Uncle Phil and Aunt Viv.
But the parents for him, really you weren't there. It
was the uncle, the aunt and the butler you know,
(59:32):
and everything else. And you kind of see that devolving
on the TV shows The Nuclear Family.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yeah, oh, it completely broke down in i'll just say
fantasy Land of TV. And I honestly believe so if
we're gonna get to brass tacks on this. I think
a lot of this talk of, you know, whether it
was Zach's dream, or whether this is the Illuminati, or
whether they were all under mind control and so forth,
I don't know. I think some of it, like the
(01:00:01):
numerology stuff and Dustin Diamond dying on Groundhog's Day, I
think that's all nonsense personally. But the true conspiracy here
and the true nefariousness, whether it's Illuminati pulling strings or
and when we say illuminati, we're not talking about the
Bavarian Illuminati. We're talking about the powers that be. We're
(01:00:23):
talking about those who are above everything, who are controlling,
and they control entertainment, they control the news, they controlled
all of that, and they're pushing a narrative. And you're
absolutely right. The real conspiracy here is is that this
show was the beginning by design, of showing American kids
(01:00:48):
and the world you don't need your parents, trust us,
your principle, your teacher, the lunch lady, or whoever else
was in the school. We are here to help you.
We're gonna help you solve all your problems. Were actually
very nice, We're not Meani's and it actually, you know,
(01:01:09):
it broke down that student teacher barrier that I grew
up with. You go back and watch well, forget about
watching lived life as I did. There was like an
iron wall between us and teachers. I didn't even know
half my teachers were married, where they lived, did they
(01:01:32):
have kids, what? Nothing. I knew their name and that
was about it.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, and that was me growing up. I pretty much.
It wasn't until high school. But in high school I
left the normal school and went to an alternative school
when it was only like fifteen kids in the whole school.
So we got to know the teachers a little bit,
but not deeply. We knew a little bit about them,
but you know, kind of that was it. But it
(01:01:58):
wasn't like nowadays it's like they you We didn't know
our teacher's values.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
That was one big thing, and nobody had no idea.
There was no teacher in my entire existence where we
all hung out after class and had deep conversations about
social issues or drugs or we're worried about so and so. Uh,
you know, what are we going to do because they're
having a bad That never happened. As soon as class
(01:02:26):
was over, you were gone. And as soon as school
was out, you were gone. I don't even think we
had a counselor in school that I remember. I don't
remember anybody ever going to the counselor. You went to
the principal. So I think that's the big conspiracy here.
I think that's the big problem. Now. I think some
people take that and go, you know, way off the
(01:02:49):
rails and start linking it to Alistair Crowley, and they start,
you know, going down some serious rabbit holes that are
very loosely tied together. And I'm not gonna say no,
like absolute no to that, but I'm given a pretty
solid note on a lot of the quote conspiracies, And honestly,
I don't really care about the conspiracies within the show.
(01:03:13):
Just what the show presented in its form was troublesome enough,
couched as a comedy for teens. And so that's the
problem I have. Was saved by the bell, and I
think a lot of the kids that were on the show,
that's the problem they had too. They were exposed to
a lot of things they shouldn't have been. These are
(01:03:34):
weird themes that were out of the norm for the time,
and all of a sudden they had. You know, there
was no social media or internet back then, but kids
around the United States loved them, worshiped them, wanted to
be them, wanted to be with them, and no kid
(01:03:58):
that age can handle that now, you know. They would
go do appearances at malls or you know, wherever here
there and they would just get mobbed and crushed, and
it was it was just too much to handle. So anyway,
I'd be curious about what everybody's thoughts on this. Did
you watch Save by the Bells? Any of this making sense?
(01:04:19):
Are you like me? Never watched it, have no really
no idea about this show, but can see from what
we're talking about the reality of the situation as to
the groundwork it laid for you know, a lot of
where we're at today. It's very wild.
Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I could see that, and I mean the whole idea,
the theories that they came to around a lot of them.
I'm like, yeah, I think you're reagion, I think you're
reaching far. But I think what we talked about it
did lay the groundwork for other things. So I think
in a lot of the ways where the whole idea
of the illuminati being behind the show, I don't think
it was directly. I think it was just the Hollywood
(01:04:58):
machine that is. In many ways we've mentioned and pointed out,
whether it's the Illuminati, the New Lizard Order, whatever, that
Hollywood machine is part of whatever group that is. And
we saw that with the Disney We've seen that with
other child actors and stuff like that, and this was
part of that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. So, if you would like
any of these links, some of them are, you know,
kind of humorous to go through because they're just way
out there, but other ones are it's a good detailed
look at this this topic, and you can email us
down the r H at ProtonMail dot com and we'll
be glad to send those out to you as usual. Brandon,
(01:05:39):
you got the midweek.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Yes, I do. We'll have something fun.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
We'll look forward to that and in the meantime, everybody
will be back next week with the brand new episode.
I'm Big D and I'm Brandon. We're out of here.
See leta.
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