November 21, 2025 • 54 mins
Are our leaders elected, or are they actors on a stage controlled by shadow puppeteers? We’ll dig into the alleged shadow government, the networks operating that many call “the Illuminati” who pull the strings and expose the hidden workers leveraged to contribute to their dark agenda. How do they control this supposed network?
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So people heard of the shadow government. You've heard of
the shadow government, right, Darren. Everybody talks about the shadow
government and they think they know what it is, right.
They pretty much think it's the deep state and all
that stuff. You've heard different sayings like that, right.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Right, right, different descriptions of it, you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Know, Yeah, and they try to guess it, and then
some people just lump it into the illuminati. But we're
gonna break it down the shadow puppeteers. And since we're
in the election age or era right now, the I
just want to kind of break it down again. Everybody
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thinks they know what's going on. I'm going to reveal
the real curtain because a lot of people have this
pseudo knowledge of it and they read some books and
watch some videos and they said, oh, I know what
it is. And then they challenged me and said, you
don't know what it is. I do I know what
it is? Well, I've been studying this for thirty forty years,
and yes, our viewpoints are perspective of it can change,
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but when it comes down to the nuts and bolts,
it all pretty much comes down to the same thing.
But I'm going to differentiate between this illuminati claim, shadow government,
puppet government, whatever, shadow of puppets, whatever you want to
call it, and ask if we think that our leaders
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are elected, but could they be or are they staged
or actors on a stage controlled by shadow puppeteers. And
this is what some have suspected that it's you know,
they would make you think that these politicians are smart
guys that or gals that have been put through acting
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training and like given lessons on how to act, because
you know, you're best actors in the world. Do you
ever see the actor you ever watch you watch movies
and you ever see sitcoms how kind of shallow their
acting is because you know they're they're not as they're
not as experienced as movie actors and things like that,
but you know, you could see through. It takes a
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it takes a good face to really get people to
absorb that you're playing a character and right, and to
get them to believe it right. But they want to
believe that the politicians, including Trump, are these paid actors
or these actors that are just following a script. And
if they are, and they are just as believable as
(04:03):
the actors that are on your movies. They must be
high rated a actors, right, they have to be highly trained, right,
they'd have.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Been said before, Oh yeah, I heard that said yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But are they really? Are they trained? Did they go
through acting school to learn how to act like politicians?
I don't think it's that they're following a script, like
everybody thinks they're following a script. There, it's obvious. Can't
you tell they're following a script? It's not that easy.
It's not that they're great actors. They'd be terrible actors
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if they were on stage. It's not that they're When
we say they're actors on a stage, what we mean
is they are players controlled by the shadow puppets of puppeteers.
They're they're puppets. And we're going to dig into this
alleged shadow government and the networks operating that some may
call the illuminati, who are pulling the strings, and let's
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expose some of the and workers that are leveraged to
contribute to their dark agenda. So when we talk about
the illuminati, it's a catch all phrase that we've become
to label for those in secret networks that we can't
really know who's behind the scenes. So we call them
the Illuminati, and it's it's just a buzzword. It's a
(05:22):
it's an over uh, it's an over encompassing phrase to
explain these guys to sit in the shadows and control things.
But a lot of people don't really know what we're
talking about when we say the Illuminati, because they've lumped
jay Z in it. They've lumped it Beyonce as an Illuminati.
They they you know, they say Illuminati, all their Illuminati,
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but they really don't know what they are. The reason
why they say that is because, you know, they they
read a couple of books about the Illuminati, about people
that are are possibly in the club, and you know,
you see this Illuminati am or IM or whatever it is,
am group that has a website presence, and they say, oh,
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maybe they're part of that Illuminati. The Illuminati go back
to ancient I can't get into this whole history because
they didn't write it down. But I've done this in
the past. I've talked about the roots of the Illuminati.
They go back to the illumination days, the enlightened, the illuminates,
back into the ancient days, and they they were your soothsayers.
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They were those that had the insight to the sacred
seven sacred sciences. They had a control base of knowledge
of occult information. And you know what, they weren't called
the Illuminati then because it was a different term, that's
more Latin, I think, or you know, it's more modern
in the in the early ages. But it comes up
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not just recently, it comes up back in like the
year I traced it back to the year one thousand
where it was coined on some people and they were
called the Illuminates. And then it was in the fifteen
hundreds I believe there was this group called the loss
Alumbrados and that's a Spanish Illuminati. So these things have
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been known, this group, or this personification of this group
of illuminates of gnostics were known going back through antiquity
of time. But what we're talking about when we talk
about you know, these are century old cabals represented by lore.
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But when we talk about the modern control mechanism of
a centralized global control group to do with this, historically
we're talking about the Bavarian Illuminati. This is a specific
branch of the Illuminati that occurred in seventeen seventy six
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under their founder Adam Eyes Hopped And just for background,
Adam wiseh Hoppt was You can't say he was a
thirty third degree Mason because they didn't really have the
degrees like they do today. But the Masons formed in
seventeen seventeen was the Grand Lodge, with different the York
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Right and the Scottish Right forming into different branches of
the Freemasons. And these other groups were running the Jesuit
organizations under the Catholic Vatican to control the education systems.
So Adam Weishoff was actually trained up as a Jesuit
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and he was Jesuit educated, Jesuit trade Jesuit priests possibly
were not confirmed on that, but he was a Jesuit
educator and a professor of Ingelstadt University, and because it
was a high elite university, he had connections with high
elite families, wealthy families, and he decided to form them
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together to form an allegiance. And this allegiance brought together
I think it was like twelve or thirteen banking families,
including the Rothschilds, and these bank these wealthy intellects as
he called them, were to be the Perfectionists. And if
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do you remember the movie the what was It with?
I think even Jack Nicholson might have been in it.
The Men of Exceptional Men or whatever League of Extraordinary
Men or something to that effect, some movie about it.
It's almost a facade of what the Illuminati were. The Illuminati,
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the Bavarian Illuminati were the group this group called the
Perfectionable Lists that were formed of the most highest intellectual,
influential minds that would get together in this allegiance that
Adam Wishaupt had for a new world order concept. And
in seventeen seventy seven he joined the Freemason lodges and
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he infiltrated them, and he brought his order with it,
and he kind of confiscated portions of Freemasonry and had
an inner society within a society, and this inner workings
would use adept, ancient knowledge, gnosticism, and all this stuff
that were deeper inside for a deeper agenda. And one
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person noted that it was hard to find where masonry
ended an Illuminati masonry began because it was like in
dwelled within it and the more adapt members were recruited
into the degrees of the Illuminati sectors. So the Illuminati
had different branches, just like the Freemasons did. And he
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called this order the Ancient Illuminates, what is it, the
ancient Seers, the ancient Illuminate Seers of Bavaria, something like that,
which were dubbed or nicknamed the Illuminati or the Bavarian Illuminati.
So this is the specific group that people today refer
to when they're talking about elite secret networks. And this
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group got found out in seventeen eighty five, and when
they did, they broke off and they hid within Freemasonry
and other secret societies, but they stayed in contact with
each other through these means of disguising their names and
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offering offering information without writing it down, because the first
time they wrote it down. They had these books and
of the one of the carriers, Lons. It's skeptical about
who it was. But this guy Lns was taking a
horse ride to give it to other Illuminates, the instructions,
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and he had the secrets sown in the sleeve of
the members that he was going to meet, and he
was struck by lightning, the legend says, and he was
found out by the Bavarian government, by the Bavarian police,
and it was it was it was actually relieving. It
was revealing a plan for the French Revolution, and they
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brought it to the French government, and the French government
did not believe it that it was authentic, and there
was a French Revolution and it ended up putting people
in place that the Illuminati were planning on putting in
place by just having these little these little revolutions and stuff.
So they controlled wars and revolutions through their means, and
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they kept going. But they they kind of dispersed, but
their name, their emblems ended up in different places, so
they can identify themselves. So that's the basis of the Illuminati.
They began. They began to work inside governments to control
politicians and to leverage them. And it said that one
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of their supporters was Thomas Jefferson for the American government.
Thomas Jefferson defended the Illuminati. Now, George Washington actually was
alerted about the Illuminati through John Robison, who wrote a
book Proofs of a Conspiracy, which I have, so I
read their books. I read these documents. I actually read
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the books of the Illuminati too. It's very fascinating on
their double talk because they double speak and everything they
talk about godliness and then they and the same token.
They can talk about rituals. They don't care which way
they go, but they kind of cloak their speech. But anyway,
John Robison was sitting in when I believe it was
Adam Wishobs himself explaining to him the plan because he
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thought he was recruiting John Robison. And John Robison was
so insulted by what was being offered to him by memory,
he listened to their conversation and then wrote it down
and wrote a book to reveal it. And he wrote
the first whistle blowing book about the Illuminati. Also did
Abbe Burial. He wrote a book about the Jacobinism. Jacobin
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is another guys of the Illuminati. It was another name
for them, the Jacobin clubs. So they hid themselves within
these other membership clubs and organizations. So that gives you
a basis of how they work. And they operate through
the secret societies. But the same core was like keeping
tabs of each other that were the head or the
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adept levels of each of these organizations despite their their branches.
So does that make sense so far? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
It does. Actually, you know a lot of people aren't
aware of this though.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Right, So I just wanted you to be aware of it. Okay,
so you're with me so far. So so other members
like Franklin. Benjamin Franklin, he was part of another group
called the hell Fire Club, and they they performed sexual
rituals and I guess baby sacrifices. They found baby bones
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and human bones remains his under his apartment after he left,
after he died or whatever, and they excavators found a
bunch of bones. So they said, oh, no, no, it's
because a doctor lived there before that. Well, the doctor
had quite a bit of bones he was examining if
that was the case. But anyway, Benjamin Franklin brought in
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this mysterious character and some think it's actually Saint Germain,
but it's it's It's recorded in some of the documents
of the early foundering fathers that this mysterious figure with
authority came in and all the people kind of wooed
to him, like they bowed to him, and he came
in and gave them the premise for the Constitution or
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whatever it was he was giving for the United States,
the plan of the United States, and it was filled
with Enlightenment rules and Illuminati terms, things like that, and
they used it as the basis for some of the
documents for the United States. So this began kind of
a hint or a wink that they're going to be
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overseen by some of these shadowy figures, and they began
to even at the beginning, Yes, it was citizens, it
was patriots, it was Christians that founded the premise of
the United States, but it was underminded by these nefarious
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groups who always sought out to look for a loophole
to confiscate the leverage for the people and the government
because Adam Weishauft was establishing a centralized government and wanted
one for the United the newly found New World United States.
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So when we talk about shadow government or deep state,
we're talking about an underground network of bureaucrats, financiers, intelligence operations,
and society shaping institutions that operate behind or even above
the elected officials. And some of the deep state they
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call them the seventh floor. And this is kind of
like a terminology that they were on a seventh floor.
And I think New York and if you remember, Hillary
Clinton even hinted that she says as Department of State.
She says, I'm right down the street. It's convenient to
be right down the street from where I get my
orders from. And she's talking about the Council on Foreign Relations,
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which is a deep organization for high intelligence, elite networks
of bureaucrats and financiers and medium and entertainment forming this
group that's a post to be a watchdog of foreign affairs,
but it's not. It's a group of conglomerates for control
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of sectors of society as they would reject a centralized
government back in the first in the beginning of the
twentieth century, and they had to put in a liaison organization,
so they created the Council on Foreign Relations as a
placeholder in nineteen twenty one.
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SEI that became a factor. And then we have these,
uh the alleged figureheads that we kind of place over
other people, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, And then it gets
into we could get into other groups because it's not
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just in the United States. We have groups in over
the Italian governments and and you know Vatican and and
Italy and all that of names that people haven't even heard,
those Orsinis and the Kalanas, and these are groups, wealthy
groups there that have a hand over there. They're sort
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of their illuminati on that side, if you want to
use that, the shadow government, because they control the wealth.
He who controls the wealth controls the governments. And we
have evidence of their presence through documents, through meetings, and
through symbolic clues that that's how we know they exist
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and where it's talked about. So when we talk about
the shadow government, we want to say that it's probably
secretive groups that meet and some of these groups meet annually,
and some of these groups are organizations and some of
these groups are agencies. To talk about some of them. Remember,
the builder Berg Group is one a builder Berg Group
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is the think tank of secretive meetings of global elites.
And truthers have for years been talking about this group
and there was no proof. They denied it where they
select leaders for political terms, where they push for certain
leaders that are vetted for their agenda to make sure
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everybody in the sectors are in line. And of course
it was a secretive meeting until recently where they actually
have an exposed public website. Now it's public and now
nobody even shakes it. You know, they don't even think
about it anymore. They just say, oh, yeah, they they
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they gather together, so what. But years ago it was like, oh,
you conspiracy theorists. This There isn't this secret Kabbalitic think
tank Builderberg Group that that meet together. So they denied it.
But now they're just openly accepting it because they got
themselves acceptable in the public. Now we know. Uh, in
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our area, we have RPI College and the the the
president at the time of RPI collegist woman I can't
remember her name, surely I think somebody was invited to
the Builderberg Group. She represented the technological age of for
the for the Builder Group group to to basically make
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sure the sectors are in line. And I actually spoke
firsthand with her secretary and asked him it's a it
was a male, asked him about the meeting, and of
course he couldn't tell me anything. He' said, oh, no,
there's no you know, she just went. They invited her
and she just went to speak. No big deal, right,
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nothing to see here. That's what we get from these
guys because it's closed doors. So then the group when
they're going into the meeting, people hang at like on
the road there.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
At the entrance way, yep, with signs calling them names.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, so they know they exist, they know they're there.
And then I mentioned the Council on Foreign Relations accused
of think tank front front lines that trained political groups
to follow suit for their for their their sector of society.
And then there's other offshoots like the Trilateral Commission and
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things like that, so we know about some of these groups.
There was the Roundtable back when, and not just the roundtable,
what's that other the group in nineteen sixties. I always
miss it. I always forget. No, no, not them, but anyway, Yeah,
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there's another one. No, but anyway. So these are just
like operating groups that kind of hold members that have
to do with the thing tanks for this. They're not
necessarily the illuminati though, they're just basically the group the
memberships for people that have an influence, probably influenced by
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those in the top adept levels. And then we talk
about the centralized banking. That's the elite financial families. And
of course we know them. We talked about them, the Rockefellers,
the Rothschilds and such. And these guys control the monetary levers,
the credit sheets, the bailouts, the private banking networks, and
you want to be honest, they also control the Federal Reserve.
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Because the Federal Reserve is an actual banking membership. It's
not our government's bank. It's the membership groups under the
World Bank that divide and decide the currency for the
United States. We gave them that right in nineteen thirteen
through the Federal Reserve Act. People think it's our bank,
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it's not. It's nothing to do with our government. It's
a private group of banking network and their families were
involved in not only issuing currency, but in philanthropy networks
as covers, so they divvy out finances through these little covers.
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And then we have the secret societies that we mentioned
the Freemasons, and from that we have the Skull and
Bones Bohemian Grove you mentioned, which is basically a ritual
get together. And these are also network societies that make
social bonds of loyalty between the people into these politic
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So they're kind of brought in, but they're chosen in
a lot of cases, so they already know their bloodlines,
they already know their affiliations, they already know their loyalty.
So they bring them in to hope that they keep
pushing their influence according to the agenda, and if need be,
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they brainwash them towards the agenda. But they also have
other ways. They bribe them, they blackmail them, and they
can move them that way. What they love to do,
what the Illuminati loved to do, was to get people
into compromising roles. So they compromise them by offering them
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these deals. Once they get involved, they have evidence that
these guys were involved, and then they use it to
blackmail them, and then they follow the agendas, and we're
talking about mostly the high level, the high profile politicians.
I'm not talking about necessarily your local politicians, although your
local politicians are very much controlled by the local chapters
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of like Freemasons and such, because it like there's a
there's a Freemason in almost every neighborhood now, and the
Freemason lodges control the people. It's prestigious to be part
of these lodges, and then once you're inside, they kind
of groom you to follow the agenda, but you're not.
They're not telling you about the secrets. What they're doing
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is just telling trying to convince you that membership into
this group is very prestigious and beneficial. And then when
you follow it, you're basically following their wishes by by
taking the carrot along and doing what they say only
because it's benefiting you. And then they have them working
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for them, so it's kind of like offline agents, so
to speak. But they're under the Freemasons, and the Freemasons
are under the bigger chapters. And the bigger chapters, you know,
there's a group council. We hear these words passed around
the council of three hundred which is basically a group
of three hundred that control those underneath the official layers,
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which is your enforcement agencies and then your intel agencies
and your banking agencies. So these these top groups control
bottom layers, so they can control the flow of information
and the flow of money. So what they do is
then they lobby the politicians, and the politicians are are
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are loyal to them. This happened to Charlie Kirk. He
got money from APAK and then they said, well, now
you're you're you're loyal, you're obligated to follow out our agenda.
And then that's when he turned on him and said,
I don't want to be bought. They can't bully me
around just because they donated to me. No, you don't understand.
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That wasn't a donation. It was a vibe and you
were supposed to follow it. And that's probably why he
got killed. I'm not sure, but that's how they work. So, yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Correct you on something, Jim, before you said it was
the big Council of three hundred. Yeah, when it's actually
the Committee of three hundred.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Oh okay, all right, thanks for Yeah, they call them council.
But all right, So it's a committee, but we still
don't really know exactly who's I mean, we have names,
but we don't exactly know how they operate.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Right, right, right, it's basically the same thing, you know,
committee council. Yes, just in case people are.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Wondering for the terms, right, thank you.
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Speaker 4 (29:02):
You got operational cast of hidden workers that are fixers
and operators. They kind of keep the information obscure through
propaganda firms and media news and intelligence contractors that day
to day shape the society to separate from the ones
above above that have that that that that send the orders.
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But they also do candidate grooming, narrative, uh, social engineering.
And then we have the foundations. The foundations are charitable
groups of philanthropy, but there's streams of financing to control
certain causes and and funnel people into their positions into
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social influence. So when people say, oh, are you saying
there's this one group that controls the whole society to
have everything controlled and doing what they want. Yeah, it's
trickled down. It's it's like network to network, the foundation
to to society. And then the educations through the education,
the schools brainwash the kids into into learning the ways
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of socialism. And we had an episode on that. If
you want to hear what Norman Dodd said about the
rece Committee and UH and the Ford Foundation and the
Carnegie and all them that had to do with education,
how they confiscated to vow to make it a socialist
or Soviet Union style mindset with the students, to have
them globalized. That's true stuff. But then we have the
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intelligence community, and these are the the mid level or
senior intellegent intelligence members and or counter operatives. They protect
the agendas and the streams of information, and some of
them are even sent our way and we're told that
they're whistleblowers or there, or they're this, and that they're
ex Intel. Now, if they're x Intel, they're probably Intel,
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except for a few handful of people that I come across.
But they they usually controlled opposition. They feed enough information
to get you appeased to think that they know something
and that you know something, and then they just basically
to redirect you to something safe. We talked about the
financial leverage of Well, there's control, there's control mechanisms, there's
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mechanisms control candidate recruitment. They groom elite institutions, They find
people that they're chosen to qualify to fit the roles
of candidates. They have financial leverage, dark money, influence over
the markets. And you know what, they don't have money
because they're not like greedy looking for money. They already
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have money. They're greedy and they're power hungry. But they
use money for leverage. Money is for us to leverage us,
to bribe us. That's what they use the money for.
Then the media narratives, editorial control, planted stories shaping the
optical illusion for the public, so the public is on
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board with what they're feeding us. And then there's symbolic signaling.
These are the public rituals, the secret signs, the hand
signs that the little gestures they make and probably predictive programming.
And of course we have inside knowledge that some of
these top elite are involved in occultism and rituals and
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they claim rights and initiations that bind people to loyalties
that are coming on board. Now there's lines of influence,
and we want to know how politicians become puppets. Well,
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there's grooming pipelines. There's elite schools that they come from,
Ivy League schools, secret societies that they come from, but
also their children come from. They've groom their children into it,
and the mentorship they attend elite Ivy League universities, They
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join societies, they join fraternities that usually can be controlled
also and given secrets and stuff like that. And then
they find the ranks of recruiting through that through eligible people.
There's ideology routing through think tanks and international posts, and
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this functions by carrying out piece by piece different memberships
and affiliations. And we talked about the CFR. Also, United
Nations is an agency that kind of recruits and gives
functions of causes. Now you've got to remember these groups
are not like they know everything just because they're in affiliations.
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They don't know the agenda. They only know their sector
or their piece of information. It's almost like the sectors
are kept selling so that each one operates under the umbrella,
but not one knows what the top agenda is. They
just know what is beneficial towards their sector. Now, how
come a little guy with a podcast like me knows
(34:14):
this and they don't.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Why is the compartmentalization?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Exactly good, good, good identity, That's what it is. Now,
how do you think they they keep them from what
I know and I know more than they do, ye,
because they keep them in their in their confinement. Yep,
they compartmentize even their lives. They don't. They're not privy
to my podcast. They don't know them out there. Actually
(34:41):
they do, Actually they do. I can tell you a
couple of stories, but one is that at one time
I was getting the geographics of where my podcast was
broadcasting and the listeners, and it told me specific areas,
specific cities like inner cities. And at one time I
got a lit of all the cities of people listening.
(35:02):
And do you know that I had one hundred people,
one hundred listens in the city of London. That's a
big control center. Wow, they must know I'm here. But anyway,
so there's financial ties, they have financial leverage, they have
black budgets they get through How do you think they
(35:22):
get the black budgets? How do they think they get
their their they're black ops. How do you think they
get the money for stuff when it's not on the
table like that? Where do they get the money for it?
You could say donors, right, but how do they get
the money? Do you know how?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
They get it through trafficking, drugs, crime and all this.
Wait a minute, I thought these were the think tanks
that were protecting us from that stuff. No, they're involved
in it. They can, on one hand say they're protecting
you and on the other hand be involved in it.
(36:02):
Most of you are elite are involved, especially when I
just mentioned the city in centers for trafficking and they
and they gain their black budget from these other means.
It can't be traced. That's how they do it. And
(36:26):
then they control others through the blackmail and bribe. They
either get them enticed to participate, and they reward them
for contribution to ensure their obedience and compliance. And then
if they threaten to leave of course they blackmail. You
can't leave. We've got to see we got the We'll
reveal this to the whole world. Why do you think
(36:47):
some of these things do get revealed now? If I was,
then wouldn't when you turn on them and go, well, no,
they did it, they started it. No, by that time,
they don't listen to them. They mark them mhm. And
then they do away with them. And then we have
manufacturers media, controlling net narratives and streams of information. Mainstream
(37:13):
media and even alternative medias are controlled now. And this
is your propaganda. Streams of information timed to perfect results,
to leak at the appropriate time, which is evidence of orchestrations.
If you remember Adam Weishaupt said, we will control the
streams of information. That's a that's an Illuminati tactic. And
(37:39):
then disinformation and syops. They control the siops, the psychological operations.
They do this through the intel agencies generally, but they
do it through their their experiments, their lab experiments, their
mass mind controls, things like that, and they use it
domestically targeting campaigns, target targeting, reshaping public perception, and saturating
(38:01):
the information in our platforms to muddy the waters. Why
do you think they allow us to speak widely on
this without shutting us down or killing us. It's because
we've so went out of the box and fabricated the
information that we're not a threat. Because most of the
people think we're kooks anyway, so they don't listen to us.
(38:25):
Only the people that are on the fence that come aboard.
But those are they don't care about the few minority
that are they know about the conspiracy. They don't care
about us as long as they can contain us and
keep us compartmentized in those sectors away from the mainstream.
Because we're not in the mainstream. Nobody's listening to us.
And when we do get in the mainstream, what do
they do? They do the main stream, the mainstream count
(38:49):
us as nuts. That's purposely designed. What are they doing
the canvas owns right now? Even the conspiracy theorists, by
the way, who are controlled they what are they saying
about Candace that she's a nut? Right? Oh?
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah, she's with a big show.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Now. Sometimes she does say things that are really wacky,
so they feed her information because they make her stay wacky.
But she admitted, I don't know if you heard this
one on her show, she admitted that she says, I
had handlers and I didn't even know it. What do
you think she's talking about. She's talking about the controlled opposition.
(39:28):
She realizes that she was controlled. Now, I know I'm
gonna get a lot of people saying, Jim, you're supposed
to be cynical, you're not supposed to be naive. You
fell for her antics. I can't believe you're that naive. Well,
sometimes you are way, way, way overly cynical, and you're
counting everybody and you're throwing them all off the cliff
(39:49):
because you don't know who to trust. You do it
out of fear, not out of truth. So you're not
looking to find the truth in these people. You're looking
to cast them out because you that you can't discern. Now,
I'm not saying she's a golden child, but what I'm
saying is she admitted that she had handlers and that
she was controlled. So maybe she's seeing something. Let's just hope.
(40:13):
I don't know. Now there's Illuminati links to prove that
there's Illuminati, because as I mentioned in seventeen seventy six,
it was a short lived Enlightenment group, but they later
started bringing out their symbols and speaking through signs and
things like that of each other's awareness, and they had
(40:37):
their They was secretive to their conspiratory ideas, so they
wrote it in obscure books and they kind of hid
it within their their fictions. That's why you see predictive programming.
Some of that is actually code words to each other.
I don't know whether you know that or not, but
(40:57):
sometimes they speak through that and we think it's predicted
programming and we're like, oh my gosh, they predicted this. Well,
they predicted it because they probably planned it, and they
probably knew it all along. They probably had their plans
already out there. But we we conglomerate all these groups
(41:19):
like the Illuminati, and it will catch phrase when in essence,
there's probably bloodlines of the Illuminati, which are the high
ranking bloodline families that go back to ancient days that
can still trace their bloodlines. And you got to remember,
as much as England is controlled by the monarchy, the
monarchy is just one leg of these Illuminati groups. But
(41:44):
they are in the Illuminati groups. They came from the
Viking groups, and they came as conquerors and they conquered
and they still have ownership and a lot of wealth.
They do. But then you have the Jesuits part of
the Vatican, and then you have the Free and these
are low life. These are lower levels. But there's an
(42:04):
umbrella people of people that are controlling at the top.
We don't necessarily know exactly who they are, but we
see their hand in different things, and they trickle down
their authority to the next layer, and they're hidden by
the veil of secrecy. Some say there's only twenty at
the top. I'm not sure how many there are, but
(42:26):
these control the agendas and trickle it down. Now, why
is it taken so long if they have control over everything,
Because even though they have control over governments, it's taken
a long time to get the citizens compliant to want
a centralized global government. But they're getting there and they're
doing it, but our resistance actually helps helps slow it down.
(42:48):
But then again, they could take us over like a monarchy,
I suppose, if they really wanted to, But then they
aren't going to get any work out of us.
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So I think it's just something that overall, it's like
an umbrella, but there's all these underlying agencies and secret
societies that have members intertwined. And some of those members
go to the next level, and then the next level,
and then the next level, and at the top they
control a lot of It doesn't matter whether you're in
(43:48):
the Skull and Bones or Freemasonry. They all have connections
and links. So there's all secret society affiliations according to
what they need. That's certain society to be involved in.
There's occult rituals. They practice rituals and they have occult knowledge.
(44:08):
They use symbol symbolic communications, often hand signs or pyramids
or all seeing eyes. That doesn't mean the Illuminati necessarily,
it means illuminates, but it doesn't necessarily mean the Illuminati.
A lot of times it just goes back to ancient Egyptianism,
mysticism and stuff, but it's still prominent in ancient civilizations,
(44:31):
are ancient rituals and today adopting those rituals to see
all seeing eyes prominent and the same pyramids and all this.
Why don't we have the pyramids on the dollar bill?
We have nothing to do with Egypt, and nobody even
questions that we've just accepted that that's the symbol. And
you know, you have you have the influencers, that's the
(44:54):
financial influencers and the celebrities they use. They use them
to basically groom the children and groom the entertainment world,
to blind us to reality by portraying it as fiction
or giving us a fictitious perception of them. They're not
really the Illuminati. They're just basically players of puppets of
(45:18):
of elite that you know are are affiliated with the
secret societies. And you know, you got the Golden Dawn
groups and uh, what's the oto Alistair Croley's group? Uh,
Order Templeary Orientis, which is the Order of the Temple,
(45:42):
which is the a ritual a ritualistic religious order that
control some of the celebrities and stuff. We talked about
the Bohemian grove, and they are rumors of occult ceremonies
and sacrifices, which are mock sacrifices, suppose. But why does
(46:03):
the truth or audience accept this stuff? Well, because the
narratives fit, they fit suspect a suspicious model, a suspected model.
That makes sense in a bigger picture if you really
analyze each these from angles, from different angles. But oftentimes
what happens is we get contradictions, and we get confused,
(46:24):
and we get people fighting over who's at the top
and who's the real illuminati, And oh, this group is
the Jesuits, No it isn't. It's the Jews. No it isn't.
It's the Vatican, No it isn't. It's folks. These are
all just little layers of the big picture. They're all
part of the elite network. It's just that the elite
are above them, and there's many contradictions. It explains it
(46:47):
how they harmonize their contradictions. It's actually part of Taoism.
You have the good and the bad, you have the
light and the dark. This is your typical dualism. It's
a it's normal. I mean, it's obvious to see when
you see the big picture. That's why they can operate
and do two things at the same time, opposites. And
(47:08):
we have other evidence that we've seen. We get whistleblowers
here and there, and the real ristle blowers, you know,
because they go into obscurity and then they get killed.
That's how you know. Sometimes unfortunately, you know, they get
either ousted or they get drugged or something happens to them.
(47:30):
So yeah, so how do this stuff? How does this
stuff spread? Well, it spreads through books. I got a
book from the early nineteen hundreds that actually explains the Illuminati.
It's actually written from illuminates. And then I got books
from seventeen ninety eight about the Illuminati and about the
(47:50):
Jacob and the Club. You got these first hand books
that people don't even know exist. But they go to
these newer resources because they go with guys with videos
and they sound good and they give you a line
of of of of knowledge. But they don't always know
everything just because they say they do. But this information
spreads today through uh eight con and Q style boards,
(48:14):
rumble telegram, uh chant, what's that chan four chan or
something like that? Oh, are you familiar with that? One?
Oh bit? Shoot, you're familiar with that. And of course YouTube,
which is actually really censorship towards these kind of things.
You know, you can get Joe Rogan on on YouTube
(48:35):
and talk about all the illuminati he wants, but little
Me talks about the Illuminati and talks about the uh,
the occult rituals, and I talk about the the pedophile
rings and I get banned. I don't know how's that happen? Well,
because Joe's bigger, and he's probably more controlled and more
cautious about where he goes, but he's got a lot
(48:57):
of influence and he and he says some things that
are right, but you know it's controlled. And then you
have the mainstream. Of course they're they're keeping the chasm
between their news and their propaganda and our news. So
so there's patterns that we recognize across institutions. We match
(49:19):
up different. That's the thing about Truthers that others don't do.
We we're suspicious of everybody. We are kind of we
can't be too cynical, but we analyze the institutions, the foundations,
the leaked documents, the symbolic continuity and all these things
to try to form a forensic pattern, and that's why
(49:41):
we see these things connecting more so than people that
are in the mainstream that don't really care or know.
They just hear what they hear on the news. But
you know, we see the secrets of a possible global cabal.
We have evidence from Rockefeller admitting that his family's part
of a secret cabal. How much more evidence you need.
But the public doesn't see these things. So we come
(50:04):
out with it in podcasts and YouTube videos, and those
that are are looking for that stuff can find it,
but those that aren't don't find it. Their feeds are
filled with you know, puppy dogs and kidd cats. They
don't see this stuff. So it's contained within the groups.
But if you're looking for it, it's there. The information's
(50:27):
out there, and you can even get this information from
their own websites, the government websites, the elite websites, the
journals that they have, they have New Age journal from
the Freemasons that used to be out. I used to
see copies of this in the libraries, believe it or not.
You used to be able to get them, and you know,
they talk about global governments and stuff. Now you can't
find some of this stuff. They don't care that it's
(50:49):
out there. They just don't want you telling about it.
So they don't care that this information's out there because
people don't know it's out there and they don't know
where to find it. People like me come along, little
old me with a little podcast. I tell people that
it's out there, reveal where it's in. And now I
get in trouble because I'm I'm making light to it.
I'm bringing it to the surface. It's out there, but
they don't want you to know about it. It's like
(51:11):
it's like the the method of revelation. What's that? The
the uh uh the method that they have to reveal
what they're doing. They let it the information out there.
They just don't want you to do anything with it.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
Let's release them from karma right right there, they're version
of it.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, right, So that's basically the shadow how the whole
network works. It's it's very simple. It's just trickle down.
And you know, if you want to control the local governments,
just just kind of get in the ear of a
couple of them and have them persuade the rest of
(51:52):
them and then have them join these these uh, prestigious groups,
and they'll be bribed too, and they'll be in favor
and then but they're they're they're gonna be leveraged, they're
gonna be compromised, and that's how they work. So it's
very easy to see. So that's our podcast for tonight.
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
So people heard of the shadow government. You've heard of
the shadow government, right, Darren. Everybody talks about the shadow
government and they think they know what it is, right.
They pretty much think it's the deep state and all
that stuff. You've heard different sayings like that, right.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Right, right, different descriptions of it, you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Know, Yeah, and they try to guess it, and then
some people just lump it into the illuminati. But we're
gonna break it down the shadow puppeteers. And since we're
in the election age or era right now, the I
just want to kind of break it down again. Everybody
(02:08):
thinks they know what's going on. I'm going to reveal
the real curtain because a lot of people have this
pseudo knowledge of it and they read some books and
watch some videos and they said, oh, I know what
it is. And then they challenged me and said, you
don't know what it is. I do I know what
it is? Well, I've been studying this for thirty forty years,
and yes, our viewpoints are perspective of it can change,
(02:33):
but when it comes down to the nuts and bolts,
it all pretty much comes down to the same thing.
But I'm going to differentiate between this illuminati claim, shadow government,
puppet government, whatever, shadow of puppets, whatever you want to
call it, and ask if we think that our leaders
(02:54):
are elected, but could they be or are they staged
or actors on a stage controlled by shadow puppeteers. And
this is what some have suspected that it's you know,
they would make you think that these politicians are smart
guys that or gals that have been put through acting
(03:19):
training and like given lessons on how to act, because
you know, you're best actors in the world. Do you
ever see the actor you ever watch you watch movies
and you ever see sitcoms how kind of shallow their
acting is because you know they're they're not as they're
not as experienced as movie actors and things like that,
but you know, you could see through. It takes a
(03:40):
it takes a good face to really get people to
absorb that you're playing a character and right, and to
get them to believe it right. But they want to
believe that the politicians, including Trump, are these paid actors
or these actors that are just following a script. And
if they are, and they are just as believable as
(04:03):
the actors that are on your movies. They must be
high rated a actors, right, they have to be highly trained, right,
they'd have.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Been said before, Oh yeah, I heard that said yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But are they really? Are they trained? Did they go
through acting school to learn how to act like politicians?
I don't think it's that they're following a script, like
everybody thinks they're following a script. There, it's obvious. Can't
you tell they're following a script? It's not that easy.
It's not that they're great actors. They'd be terrible actors
(04:34):
if they were on stage. It's not that they're When
we say they're actors on a stage, what we mean
is they are players controlled by the shadow puppets of puppeteers.
They're they're puppets. And we're going to dig into this
alleged shadow government and the networks operating that some may
call the illuminati, who are pulling the strings, and let's
(04:59):
expose some of the and workers that are leveraged to
contribute to their dark agenda. So when we talk about
the illuminati, it's a catch all phrase that we've become
to label for those in secret networks that we can't
really know who's behind the scenes. So we call them
the Illuminati, and it's it's just a buzzword. It's a
(05:22):
it's an over uh, it's an over encompassing phrase to
explain these guys to sit in the shadows and control things.
But a lot of people don't really know what we're
talking about when we say the Illuminati, because they've lumped
jay Z in it. They've lumped it Beyonce as an Illuminati.
They they you know, they say Illuminati, all their Illuminati,
(05:43):
but they really don't know what they are. The reason
why they say that is because, you know, they they
read a couple of books about the Illuminati, about people
that are are possibly in the club, and you know,
you see this Illuminati am or IM or whatever it is,
am group that has a website presence, and they say, oh,
(06:05):
maybe they're part of that Illuminati. The Illuminati go back
to ancient I can't get into this whole history because
they didn't write it down. But I've done this in
the past. I've talked about the roots of the Illuminati.
They go back to the illumination days, the enlightened, the illuminates,
back into the ancient days, and they they were your soothsayers.
(06:29):
They were those that had the insight to the sacred
seven sacred sciences. They had a control base of knowledge
of occult information. And you know what, they weren't called
the Illuminati then because it was a different term, that's
more Latin, I think, or you know, it's more modern
in the in the early ages. But it comes up
(06:52):
not just recently, it comes up back in like the
year I traced it back to the year one thousand
where it was coined on some people and they were
called the Illuminates. And then it was in the fifteen
hundreds I believe there was this group called the loss
Alumbrados and that's a Spanish Illuminati. So these things have
(07:17):
been known, this group, or this personification of this group
of illuminates of gnostics were known going back through antiquity
of time. But what we're talking about when we talk
about you know, these are century old cabals represented by lore.
(07:37):
But when we talk about the modern control mechanism of
a centralized global control group to do with this, historically
we're talking about the Bavarian Illuminati. This is a specific
branch of the Illuminati that occurred in seventeen seventy six
(07:57):
under their founder Adam Eyes Hopped And just for background,
Adam wiseh Hoppt was You can't say he was a
thirty third degree Mason because they didn't really have the
degrees like they do today. But the Masons formed in
seventeen seventeen was the Grand Lodge, with different the York
(08:20):
Right and the Scottish Right forming into different branches of
the Freemasons. And these other groups were running the Jesuit
organizations under the Catholic Vatican to control the education systems.
So Adam Weishoff was actually trained up as a Jesuit
(08:41):
and he was Jesuit educated, Jesuit trade Jesuit priests possibly
were not confirmed on that, but he was a Jesuit
educator and a professor of Ingelstadt University, and because it
was a high elite university, he had connections with high
elite families, wealthy families, and he decided to form them
(09:04):
together to form an allegiance. And this allegiance brought together
I think it was like twelve or thirteen banking families,
including the Rothschilds, and these bank these wealthy intellects as
he called them, were to be the Perfectionists. And if
(09:25):
do you remember the movie the what was It with?
I think even Jack Nicholson might have been in it.
The Men of Exceptional Men or whatever League of Extraordinary
Men or something to that effect, some movie about it.
It's almost a facade of what the Illuminati were. The Illuminati,
(09:46):
the Bavarian Illuminati were the group this group called the
Perfectionable Lists that were formed of the most highest intellectual,
influential minds that would get together in this allegiance that
Adam Wishaupt had for a new world order concept. And
in seventeen seventy seven he joined the Freemason lodges and
(10:08):
he infiltrated them, and he brought his order with it,
and he kind of confiscated portions of Freemasonry and had
an inner society within a society, and this inner workings
would use adept, ancient knowledge, gnosticism, and all this stuff
that were deeper inside for a deeper agenda. And one
(10:30):
person noted that it was hard to find where masonry
ended an Illuminati masonry began because it was like in
dwelled within it and the more adapt members were recruited
into the degrees of the Illuminati sectors. So the Illuminati
had different branches, just like the Freemasons did. And he
(10:54):
called this order the Ancient Illuminates, what is it, the
ancient Seers, the ancient Illuminate Seers of Bavaria, something like that,
which were dubbed or nicknamed the Illuminati or the Bavarian Illuminati.
So this is the specific group that people today refer
to when they're talking about elite secret networks. And this
(11:17):
group got found out in seventeen eighty five, and when
they did, they broke off and they hid within Freemasonry
and other secret societies, but they stayed in contact with
each other through these means of disguising their names and
(11:37):
offering offering information without writing it down, because the first
time they wrote it down. They had these books and
of the one of the carriers, Lons. It's skeptical about
who it was. But this guy Lns was taking a
horse ride to give it to other Illuminates, the instructions,
(12:00):
and he had the secrets sown in the sleeve of
the members that he was going to meet, and he
was struck by lightning, the legend says, and he was
found out by the Bavarian government, by the Bavarian police,
and it was it was it was actually relieving. It
was revealing a plan for the French Revolution, and they
(12:22):
brought it to the French government, and the French government
did not believe it that it was authentic, and there
was a French Revolution and it ended up putting people
in place that the Illuminati were planning on putting in
place by just having these little these little revolutions and stuff.
So they controlled wars and revolutions through their means, and
(12:43):
they kept going. But they they kind of dispersed, but
their name, their emblems ended up in different places, so
they can identify themselves. So that's the basis of the Illuminati.
They began. They began to work inside governments to control
politicians and to leverage them. And it said that one
(13:04):
of their supporters was Thomas Jefferson for the American government.
Thomas Jefferson defended the Illuminati. Now, George Washington actually was
alerted about the Illuminati through John Robison, who wrote a
book Proofs of a Conspiracy, which I have, so I
read their books. I read these documents. I actually read
(13:25):
the books of the Illuminati too. It's very fascinating on
their double talk because they double speak and everything they
talk about godliness and then they and the same token.
They can talk about rituals. They don't care which way
they go, but they kind of cloak their speech. But anyway,
John Robison was sitting in when I believe it was
Adam Wishobs himself explaining to him the plan because he
(13:48):
thought he was recruiting John Robison. And John Robison was
so insulted by what was being offered to him by memory,
he listened to their conversation and then wrote it down
and wrote a book to reveal it. And he wrote
the first whistle blowing book about the Illuminati. Also did
Abbe Burial. He wrote a book about the Jacobinism. Jacobin
(14:15):
is another guys of the Illuminati. It was another name
for them, the Jacobin clubs. So they hid themselves within
these other membership clubs and organizations. So that gives you
a basis of how they work. And they operate through
the secret societies. But the same core was like keeping
tabs of each other that were the head or the
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adept levels of each of these organizations despite their their branches.
So does that make sense so far? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
It does. Actually, you know a lot of people aren't
aware of this though.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Right, So I just wanted you to be aware of it. Okay,
so you're with me so far. So so other members
like Franklin. Benjamin Franklin, he was part of another group
called the hell Fire Club, and they they performed sexual
rituals and I guess baby sacrifices. They found baby bones
(15:11):
and human bones remains his under his apartment after he left,
after he died or whatever, and they excavators found a
bunch of bones. So they said, oh, no, no, it's
because a doctor lived there before that. Well, the doctor
had quite a bit of bones he was examining if
that was the case. But anyway, Benjamin Franklin brought in
(15:34):
this mysterious character and some think it's actually Saint Germain,
but it's it's It's recorded in some of the documents
of the early foundering fathers that this mysterious figure with
authority came in and all the people kind of wooed
to him, like they bowed to him, and he came
in and gave them the premise for the Constitution or
(15:55):
whatever it was he was giving for the United States,
the plan of the United States, and it was filled
with Enlightenment rules and Illuminati terms, things like that, and
they used it as the basis for some of the
documents for the United States. So this began kind of
a hint or a wink that they're going to be
(16:17):
overseen by some of these shadowy figures, and they began
to even at the beginning, Yes, it was citizens, it
was patriots, it was Christians that founded the premise of
the United States, but it was underminded by these nefarious
(16:39):
groups who always sought out to look for a loophole
to confiscate the leverage for the people and the government
because Adam Weishauft was establishing a centralized government and wanted
one for the United the newly found New World United States.
(16:59):
So when we talk about shadow government or deep state,
we're talking about an underground network of bureaucrats, financiers, intelligence operations,
and society shaping institutions that operate behind or even above
the elected officials. And some of the deep state they
(17:23):
call them the seventh floor. And this is kind of
like a terminology that they were on a seventh floor.
And I think New York and if you remember, Hillary
Clinton even hinted that she says as Department of State.
She says, I'm right down the street. It's convenient to
be right down the street from where I get my
orders from. And she's talking about the Council on Foreign Relations,
(17:44):
which is a deep organization for high intelligence, elite networks
of bureaucrats and financiers and medium and entertainment forming this
group that's a post to be a watchdog of foreign affairs,
but it's not. It's a group of conglomerates for control
(18:07):
of sectors of society as they would reject a centralized
government back in the first in the beginning of the
twentieth century, and they had to put in a liaison organization,
so they created the Council on Foreign Relations as a
placeholder in nineteen twenty one.
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Speaker 4 (18:56):
SEI that became a factor. And then we have these,
uh the alleged figureheads that we kind of place over
other people, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, And then it gets
into we could get into other groups because it's not
(19:16):
just in the United States. We have groups in over
the Italian governments and and you know Vatican and and
Italy and all that of names that people haven't even heard,
those Orsinis and the Kalanas, and these are groups, wealthy
groups there that have a hand over there. They're sort
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of their illuminati on that side, if you want to
use that, the shadow government, because they control the wealth.
He who controls the wealth controls the governments. And we
have evidence of their presence through documents, through meetings, and
through symbolic clues that that's how we know they exist
(19:59):
and where it's talked about. So when we talk about
the shadow government, we want to say that it's probably
secretive groups that meet and some of these groups meet annually,
and some of these groups are organizations and some of
these groups are agencies. To talk about some of them. Remember,
the builder Berg Group is one a builder Berg Group
(20:22):
is the think tank of secretive meetings of global elites.
And truthers have for years been talking about this group
and there was no proof. They denied it where they
select leaders for political terms, where they push for certain
leaders that are vetted for their agenda to make sure
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everybody in the sectors are in line. And of course
it was a secretive meeting until recently where they actually
have an exposed public website. Now it's public and now
nobody even shakes it. You know, they don't even think
about it anymore. They just say, oh, yeah, they they
(21:03):
they gather together, so what. But years ago it was like, oh,
you conspiracy theorists. This There isn't this secret Kabbalitic think
tank Builderberg Group that that meet together. So they denied it.
But now they're just openly accepting it because they got
themselves acceptable in the public. Now we know. Uh, in
(21:26):
our area, we have RPI College and the the the
president at the time of RPI collegist woman I can't
remember her name, surely I think somebody was invited to
the Builderberg Group. She represented the technological age of for
the for the Builder Group group to to basically make
(21:48):
sure the sectors are in line. And I actually spoke
firsthand with her secretary and asked him it's a it
was a male, asked him about the meeting, and of
course he couldn't tell me anything. He' said, oh, no,
there's no you know, she just went. They invited her
and she just went to speak. No big deal, right,
(22:08):
nothing to see here. That's what we get from these
guys because it's closed doors. So then the group when
they're going into the meeting, people hang at like on
the road there.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
At the entrance way, yep, with signs calling them names.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, so they know they exist, they know they're there.
And then I mentioned the Council on Foreign Relations accused
of think tank front front lines that trained political groups
to follow suit for their for their their sector of society.
And then there's other offshoots like the Trilateral Commission and
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things like that, so we know about some of these groups.
There was the Roundtable back when, and not just the roundtable,
what's that other the group in nineteen sixties. I always
miss it. I always forget. No, no, not them, but anyway, Yeah,
(23:10):
there's another one. No, but anyway. So these are just
like operating groups that kind of hold members that have
to do with the thing tanks for this. They're not
necessarily the illuminati though, they're just basically the group the
memberships for people that have an influence, probably influenced by
(23:33):
those in the top adept levels. And then we talk
about the centralized banking. That's the elite financial families. And
of course we know them. We talked about them, the Rockefellers,
the Rothschilds and such. And these guys control the monetary levers,
the credit sheets, the bailouts, the private banking networks, and
you want to be honest, they also control the Federal Reserve.
(23:56):
Because the Federal Reserve is an actual banking membership. It's
not our government's bank. It's the membership groups under the
World Bank that divide and decide the currency for the
United States. We gave them that right in nineteen thirteen
through the Federal Reserve Act. People think it's our bank,
(24:17):
it's not. It's nothing to do with our government. It's
a private group of banking network and their families were
involved in not only issuing currency, but in philanthropy networks
as covers, so they divvy out finances through these little covers.
(24:39):
And then we have the secret societies that we mentioned
the Freemasons, and from that we have the Skull and
Bones Bohemian Grove you mentioned, which is basically a ritual
get together. And these are also network societies that make
social bonds of loyalty between the people into these politic
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So they're kind of brought in, but they're chosen in
a lot of cases, so they already know their bloodlines,
they already know their affiliations, they already know their loyalty.
So they bring them in to hope that they keep
pushing their influence according to the agenda, and if need be,
(25:26):
they brainwash them towards the agenda. But they also have
other ways. They bribe them, they blackmail them, and they
can move them that way. What they love to do,
what the Illuminati loved to do, was to get people
into compromising roles. So they compromise them by offering them
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these deals. Once they get involved, they have evidence that
these guys were involved, and then they use it to
blackmail them, and then they follow the agendas, and we're
talking about mostly the high level, the high profile politicians.
I'm not talking about necessarily your local politicians, although your
local politicians are very much controlled by the local chapters
(26:13):
of like Freemasons and such, because it like there's a
there's a Freemason in almost every neighborhood now, and the
Freemason lodges control the people. It's prestigious to be part
of these lodges, and then once you're inside, they kind
of groom you to follow the agenda, but you're not.
They're not telling you about the secrets. What they're doing
(26:33):
is just telling trying to convince you that membership into
this group is very prestigious and beneficial. And then when
you follow it, you're basically following their wishes by by
taking the carrot along and doing what they say only
because it's benefiting you. And then they have them working
(26:53):
for them, so it's kind of like offline agents, so
to speak. But they're under the Freemasons, and the Freemasons
are under the bigger chapters. And the bigger chapters, you know,
there's a group council. We hear these words passed around
the council of three hundred which is basically a group
of three hundred that control those underneath the official layers,
(27:17):
which is your enforcement agencies and then your intel agencies
and your banking agencies. So these these top groups control
bottom layers, so they can control the flow of information
and the flow of money. So what they do is
then they lobby the politicians, and the politicians are are
(27:38):
are loyal to them. This happened to Charlie Kirk. He
got money from APAK and then they said, well, now
you're you're you're loyal, you're obligated to follow out our agenda.
And then that's when he turned on him and said,
I don't want to be bought. They can't bully me
around just because they donated to me. No, you don't understand.
(27:58):
That wasn't a donation. It was a vibe and you
were supposed to follow it. And that's probably why he
got killed. I'm not sure, but that's how they work. So, yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Correct you on something, Jim, before you said it was
the big Council of three hundred. Yeah, when it's actually
the Committee of three hundred.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Oh okay, all right, thanks for Yeah, they call them council.
But all right, So it's a committee, but we still
don't really know exactly who's I mean, we have names,
but we don't exactly know how they operate.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Right, right, right, it's basically the same thing, you know,
committee council. Yes, just in case people are.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Wondering for the terms, right, thank you.
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Speaker 4 (29:02):
You got operational cast of hidden workers that are fixers
and operators. They kind of keep the information obscure through
propaganda firms and media news and intelligence contractors that day
to day shape the society to separate from the ones
above above that have that that that that send the orders.
(29:25):
But they also do candidate grooming, narrative, uh, social engineering.
And then we have the foundations. The foundations are charitable
groups of philanthropy, but there's streams of financing to control
certain causes and and funnel people into their positions into
(29:45):
social influence. So when people say, oh, are you saying
there's this one group that controls the whole society to
have everything controlled and doing what they want. Yeah, it's
trickled down. It's it's like network to network, the foundation
to to society. And then the educations through the education,
the schools brainwash the kids into into learning the ways
(30:08):
of socialism. And we had an episode on that. If
you want to hear what Norman Dodd said about the
rece Committee and UH and the Ford Foundation and the
Carnegie and all them that had to do with education,
how they confiscated to vow to make it a socialist
or Soviet Union style mindset with the students, to have
them globalized. That's true stuff. But then we have the
(30:32):
intelligence community, and these are the the mid level or
senior intellegent intelligence members and or counter operatives. They protect
the agendas and the streams of information, and some of
them are even sent our way and we're told that
they're whistleblowers or there, or they're this, and that they're
ex Intel. Now, if they're x Intel, they're probably Intel,
(30:55):
except for a few handful of people that I come across.
But they they usually controlled opposition. They feed enough information
to get you appeased to think that they know something
and that you know something, and then they just basically
to redirect you to something safe. We talked about the
financial leverage of Well, there's control, there's control mechanisms, there's
(31:19):
mechanisms control candidate recruitment. They groom elite institutions, They find
people that they're chosen to qualify to fit the roles
of candidates. They have financial leverage, dark money, influence over
the markets. And you know what, they don't have money
because they're not like greedy looking for money. They already
(31:41):
have money. They're greedy and they're power hungry. But they
use money for leverage. Money is for us to leverage us,
to bribe us. That's what they use the money for.
Then the media narratives, editorial control, planted stories shaping the
optical illusion for the public, so the public is on
(32:02):
board with what they're feeding us. And then there's symbolic signaling.
These are the public rituals, the secret signs, the hand
signs that the little gestures they make and probably predictive programming.
And of course we have inside knowledge that some of
these top elite are involved in occultism and rituals and
(32:24):
they claim rights and initiations that bind people to loyalties
that are coming on board. Now there's lines of influence,
and we want to know how politicians become puppets. Well,
(32:48):
there's grooming pipelines. There's elite schools that they come from,
Ivy League schools, secret societies that they come from, but
also their children come from. They've groom their children into it,
and the mentorship they attend elite Ivy League universities, They
(33:08):
join societies, they join fraternities that usually can be controlled
also and given secrets and stuff like that. And then
they find the ranks of recruiting through that through eligible people.
There's ideology routing through think tanks and international posts, and
(33:31):
this functions by carrying out piece by piece different memberships
and affiliations. And we talked about the CFR. Also, United
Nations is an agency that kind of recruits and gives
functions of causes. Now you've got to remember these groups
are not like they know everything just because they're in affiliations.
(33:52):
They don't know the agenda. They only know their sector
or their piece of information. It's almost like the sectors
are kept selling so that each one operates under the umbrella,
but not one knows what the top agenda is. They
just know what is beneficial towards their sector. Now, how
come a little guy with a podcast like me knows
(34:14):
this and they don't.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Why is the compartmentalization?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Exactly good, good, good identity, That's what it is. Now,
how do you think they they keep them from what
I know and I know more than they do, ye,
because they keep them in their in their confinement. Yep,
they compartmentize even their lives. They don't. They're not privy
to my podcast. They don't know them out there. Actually
(34:41):
they do, Actually they do. I can tell you a
couple of stories, but one is that at one time
I was getting the geographics of where my podcast was
broadcasting and the listeners, and it told me specific areas,
specific cities like inner cities. And at one time I
got a lit of all the cities of people listening.
(35:02):
And do you know that I had one hundred people,
one hundred listens in the city of London. That's a
big control center. Wow, they must know I'm here. But anyway,
so there's financial ties, they have financial leverage, they have
black budgets they get through How do you think they
(35:22):
get the black budgets? How do they think they get
their their they're black ops. How do you think they
get the money for stuff when it's not on the
table like that? Where do they get the money for it?
You could say donors, right, but how do they get
the money? Do you know how?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
They get it through trafficking, drugs, crime and all this.
Wait a minute, I thought these were the think tanks
that were protecting us from that stuff. No, they're involved
in it. They can, on one hand say they're protecting
you and on the other hand be involved in it.
(36:02):
Most of you are elite are involved, especially when I
just mentioned the city in centers for trafficking and they
and they gain their black budget from these other means.
It can't be traced. That's how they do it. And
(36:26):
then they control others through the blackmail and bribe. They
either get them enticed to participate, and they reward them
for contribution to ensure their obedience and compliance. And then
if they threaten to leave of course they blackmail. You
can't leave. We've got to see we got the We'll
reveal this to the whole world. Why do you think
(36:47):
some of these things do get revealed now? If I was,
then wouldn't when you turn on them and go, well, no,
they did it, they started it. No, by that time,
they don't listen to them. They mark them mhm. And
then they do away with them. And then we have
manufacturers media, controlling net narratives and streams of information. Mainstream
(37:13):
media and even alternative medias are controlled now. And this
is your propaganda. Streams of information timed to perfect results,
to leak at the appropriate time, which is evidence of orchestrations.
If you remember Adam Weishaupt said, we will control the
streams of information. That's a that's an Illuminati tactic. And
(37:39):
then disinformation and syops. They control the siops, the psychological operations.
They do this through the intel agencies generally, but they
do it through their their experiments, their lab experiments, their
mass mind controls, things like that, and they use it
domestically targeting campaigns, target targeting, reshaping public perception, and saturating
(38:01):
the information in our platforms to muddy the waters. Why
do you think they allow us to speak widely on
this without shutting us down or killing us. It's because
we've so went out of the box and fabricated the
information that we're not a threat. Because most of the
people think we're kooks anyway, so they don't listen to us.
(38:25):
Only the people that are on the fence that come aboard.
But those are they don't care about the few minority
that are they know about the conspiracy. They don't care
about us as long as they can contain us and
keep us compartmentized in those sectors away from the mainstream.
Because we're not in the mainstream. Nobody's listening to us.
And when we do get in the mainstream, what do
they do? They do the main stream, the mainstream count
(38:49):
us as nuts. That's purposely designed. What are they doing
the canvas owns right now? Even the conspiracy theorists, by
the way, who are controlled they what are they saying
about Candace that she's a nut? Right? Oh?
Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah, she's with a big show.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Now. Sometimes she does say things that are really wacky,
so they feed her information because they make her stay wacky.
But she admitted, I don't know if you heard this
one on her show, she admitted that she says, I
had handlers and I didn't even know it. What do
you think she's talking about. She's talking about the controlled opposition.
(39:28):
She realizes that she was controlled. Now, I know I'm
gonna get a lot of people saying, Jim, you're supposed
to be cynical, you're not supposed to be naive. You
fell for her antics. I can't believe you're that naive. Well,
sometimes you are way, way, way overly cynical, and you're
counting everybody and you're throwing them all off the cliff
(39:49):
because you don't know who to trust. You do it
out of fear, not out of truth. So you're not
looking to find the truth in these people. You're looking
to cast them out because you that you can't discern. Now,
I'm not saying she's a golden child, but what I'm
saying is she admitted that she had handlers and that
she was controlled. So maybe she's seeing something. Let's just hope.
(40:13):
I don't know. Now there's Illuminati links to prove that
there's Illuminati, because as I mentioned in seventeen seventy six,
it was a short lived Enlightenment group, but they later
started bringing out their symbols and speaking through signs and
things like that of each other's awareness, and they had
(40:37):
their They was secretive to their conspiratory ideas, so they
wrote it in obscure books and they kind of hid
it within their their fictions. That's why you see predictive programming.
Some of that is actually code words to each other.
I don't know whether you know that or not, but
(40:57):
sometimes they speak through that and we think it's predicted
programming and we're like, oh my gosh, they predicted this. Well,
they predicted it because they probably planned it, and they
probably knew it all along. They probably had their plans
already out there. But we we conglomerate all these groups
(41:19):
like the Illuminati, and it will catch phrase when in essence,
there's probably bloodlines of the Illuminati, which are the high
ranking bloodline families that go back to ancient days that
can still trace their bloodlines. And you got to remember,
as much as England is controlled by the monarchy, the
monarchy is just one leg of these Illuminati groups. But
(41:44):
they are in the Illuminati groups. They came from the
Viking groups, and they came as conquerors and they conquered
and they still have ownership and a lot of wealth.
They do. But then you have the Jesuits part of
the Vatican, and then you have the Free and these
are low life. These are lower levels. But there's an
(42:04):
umbrella people of people that are controlling at the top.
We don't necessarily know exactly who they are, but we
see their hand in different things, and they trickle down
their authority to the next layer, and they're hidden by
the veil of secrecy. Some say there's only twenty at
the top. I'm not sure how many there are, but
(42:26):
these control the agendas and trickle it down. Now, why
is it taken so long if they have control over everything,
Because even though they have control over governments, it's taken
a long time to get the citizens compliant to want
a centralized global government. But they're getting there and they're
doing it, but our resistance actually helps helps slow it down.
(42:48):
But then again, they could take us over like a monarchy,
I suppose, if they really wanted to, But then they
aren't going to get any work out of us.
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So I think it's just something that overall, it's like
an umbrella, but there's all these underlying agencies and secret
societies that have members intertwined. And some of those members
go to the next level, and then the next level,
and then the next level, and at the top they
control a lot of It doesn't matter whether you're in
(43:48):
the Skull and Bones or Freemasonry. They all have connections
and links. So there's all secret society affiliations according to
what they need. That's certain society to be involved in.
There's occult rituals. They practice rituals and they have occult knowledge.
(44:08):
They use symbol symbolic communications, often hand signs or pyramids
or all seeing eyes. That doesn't mean the Illuminati necessarily,
it means illuminates, but it doesn't necessarily mean the Illuminati.
A lot of times it just goes back to ancient Egyptianism,
mysticism and stuff, but it's still prominent in ancient civilizations,
(44:31):
are ancient rituals and today adopting those rituals to see
all seeing eyes prominent and the same pyramids and all this.
Why don't we have the pyramids on the dollar bill?
We have nothing to do with Egypt, and nobody even
questions that we've just accepted that that's the symbol. And
you know, you have you have the influencers, that's the
(44:54):
financial influencers and the celebrities they use. They use them
to basically groom the children and groom the entertainment world,
to blind us to reality by portraying it as fiction
or giving us a fictitious perception of them. They're not
really the Illuminati. They're just basically players of puppets of
(45:18):
of elite that you know are are affiliated with the
secret societies. And you know, you got the Golden Dawn
groups and uh, what's the oto Alistair Croley's group? Uh,
Order Templeary Orientis, which is the Order of the Temple,
(45:42):
which is the a ritual a ritualistic religious order that
control some of the celebrities and stuff. We talked about
the Bohemian grove, and they are rumors of occult ceremonies
and sacrifices, which are mock sacrifices, suppose. But why does
(46:03):
the truth or audience accept this stuff? Well, because the
narratives fit, they fit suspect a suspicious model, a suspected model.
That makes sense in a bigger picture if you really
analyze each these from angles, from different angles. But oftentimes
what happens is we get contradictions, and we get confused,
(46:24):
and we get people fighting over who's at the top
and who's the real illuminati, And oh, this group is
the Jesuits, No it isn't. It's the Jews. No it isn't.
It's the Vatican, No it isn't. It's folks. These are
all just little layers of the big picture. They're all
part of the elite network. It's just that the elite
are above them, and there's many contradictions. It explains it
(46:47):
how they harmonize their contradictions. It's actually part of Taoism.
You have the good and the bad, you have the
light and the dark. This is your typical dualism. It's
a it's normal. I mean, it's obvious to see when
you see the big picture. That's why they can operate
and do two things at the same time, opposites. And
(47:08):
we have other evidence that we've seen. We get whistleblowers
here and there, and the real ristle blowers, you know,
because they go into obscurity and then they get killed.
That's how you know. Sometimes unfortunately, you know, they get
either ousted or they get drugged or something happens to them.
(47:30):
So yeah, so how do this stuff? How does this
stuff spread? Well, it spreads through books. I got a
book from the early nineteen hundreds that actually explains the Illuminati.
It's actually written from illuminates. And then I got books
from seventeen ninety eight about the Illuminati and about the
(47:50):
Jacob and the Club. You got these first hand books
that people don't even know exist. But they go to
these newer resources because they go with guys with videos
and they sound good and they give you a line
of of of of knowledge. But they don't always know
everything just because they say they do. But this information
spreads today through uh eight con and Q style boards,
(48:14):
rumble telegram, uh chant, what's that chan four chan or
something like that? Oh, are you familiar with that? One?
Oh bit? Shoot, you're familiar with that. And of course YouTube,
which is actually really censorship towards these kind of things.
You know, you can get Joe Rogan on on YouTube
(48:35):
and talk about all the illuminati he wants, but little
Me talks about the Illuminati and talks about the uh,
the occult rituals, and I talk about the the pedophile
rings and I get banned. I don't know how's that happen? Well,
because Joe's bigger, and he's probably more controlled and more
cautious about where he goes, but he's got a lot
(48:57):
of influence and he and he says some things that
are right, but you know it's controlled. And then you
have the mainstream. Of course they're they're keeping the chasm
between their news and their propaganda and our news. So
so there's patterns that we recognize across institutions. We match
(49:19):
up different. That's the thing about Truthers that others don't do.
We we're suspicious of everybody. We are kind of we
can't be too cynical, but we analyze the institutions, the foundations,
the leaked documents, the symbolic continuity and all these things
to try to form a forensic pattern, and that's why
(49:41):
we see these things connecting more so than people that
are in the mainstream that don't really care or know.
They just hear what they hear on the news. But
you know, we see the secrets of a possible global cabal.
We have evidence from Rockefeller admitting that his family's part
of a secret cabal. How much more evidence you need.
But the public doesn't see these things. So we come
(50:04):
out with it in podcasts and YouTube videos, and those
that are are looking for that stuff can find it,
but those that aren't don't find it. Their feeds are
filled with you know, puppy dogs and kidd cats. They
don't see this stuff. So it's contained within the groups.
But if you're looking for it, it's there. The information's
(50:27):
out there, and you can even get this information from
their own websites, the government websites, the elite websites, the
journals that they have, they have New Age journal from
the Freemasons that used to be out. I used to
see copies of this in the libraries, believe it or not.
You used to be able to get them, and you know,
they talk about global governments and stuff. Now you can't
find some of this stuff. They don't care that it's
(50:49):
out there. They just don't want you telling about it.
So they don't care that this information's out there because
people don't know it's out there and they don't know
where to find it. People like me come along, little
old me with a little podcast. I tell people that
it's out there, reveal where it's in. And now I
get in trouble because I'm I'm making light to it.
I'm bringing it to the surface. It's out there, but
they don't want you to know about it. It's like
(51:11):
it's like the the method of revelation. What's that? The
the uh uh the method that they have to reveal
what they're doing. They let it the information out there.
They just don't want you to do anything with it.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
Let's release them from karma right right there, they're version
of it.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, right, So that's basically the shadow how the whole
network works. It's it's very simple. It's just trickle down.
And you know, if you want to control the local governments,
just just kind of get in the ear of a
couple of them and have them persuade the rest of
(51:52):
them and then have them join these these uh, prestigious groups,
and they'll be bribed too, and they'll be in favor
and then but they're they're they're gonna be leveraged, they're
gonna be compromised, and that's how they work. So it's
very easy to see. So that's our podcast for tonight.
Thanks for listening. My website is Jimdukeperspective dot com. You
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