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September 25, 2025 • 128 mins
Join Daniel in the hermit cave, as he continues with part two of The Road, The Tree series, examining his wacky journals and contrasting them with the Word of God.

The Road, The Tree (Part 1)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, we're hearing reports that YouTube is down. Mysterious reports
started flooding into ministry x studios. Now, of course, this
may just be the first stages of the Internet kill switch.
So with that being the case, this means that certain
soundscapes will not be available.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
To us on such short notice. However, and this goes
back to an email that I got and they said,
where are you supposed to be in a spaceship or
a garage somewhere in Idaho? Where exactly are you broadcasting from?

(01:14):
And I said, well, sir, that's a complicated question that
you just asked me, because sometimes I'm docked here on
Earth and other times I'm on the outer ring. I'm
out on the fringes. This is the Fringe Radio network,

(01:35):
by the way, and this is the ministry x podcast
that you are listening to. I am Daniel X and yeah,
it's scorching here and so, and this also goes to
the emailer when it gets especially hot here on Earth.

(02:00):
Keeping in mind that the ancient Israelites when they said Earth,
they weren't talking about the planet Earth as in a globe,
a spheroid, an oblate spheroid. They were just talking about

(02:23):
the ground, like the dirt that I'm standing on. That's Earth,
as opposed to the sea, the oceans, the chaos land
representing refuge from the chaos. Is it a Retz Euretz? Anyways,

(02:44):
I long lost the plot of this intro. I think
I was trying to say that it's much cooler inside
the cave than on the surface of the Earth, which
is flat. Of course, we're gonna get started momentarily. I'm
going to get into This will be part two of

(03:09):
part one that I did sometime last year I think
called The Road the Tree, So this will be The
Road the Tree Part two. I'm gonna get into my
old journals and some of my old archives, and I've
got my old cassette tapes here. I've got some mini

(03:31):
cassette tapes here, none of which have been digitized. I
really need to hire somebody to digitize all these recordings.
I'll still keep all the original tapes, but I don't
want to play them over and over again because they
actually get worn out. Once they're in FLAK or a

(03:52):
MP three format. They don't they don't lose anything as
you play them. Don't risk the tape getting chewed up
or something and losing it forever. But I have so
much stuff that's recorded that is strictly on tape. I've
converted some of it over, some of which I'm actually
going to compile and put some albums together. It's another

(04:16):
one of these side projects that I talk about but
never get around to. And it is appropriate. You know,
we're approaching the end of the summer, the harvest time
will be quickly upon us, the fall and all that entails.
That's always been a special time of year for me,

(04:39):
and usually this signifies big time, big time changes in
my life. I wasn't sure how to phrase that, so
I'll be doing a little bit of the latter period,
I guess you could say here. And it's all about
my transition, my spiritual trans transition, you know, out of

(05:02):
the occult and divination and shamanism and Eastern mysticism and
starting the process of turning back to Christ, to Jesus,
to Christianity. So sometimes I am in outer space, I

(05:23):
am on the fringes. Sometimes I'm back here in Idaho.
Sometimes I'm visiting places where I've opened portals through time,
and you know, and I have to go back and
check on them every once in a while. You know,

(05:47):
I wonder what gulies and creepizoids I left behind if
I forgot to close any of those gateways which I've
I've sent prayed about and prayed them closed in the
name of Jesus, so that those things don't influence future residences,

(06:13):
some of which are in other states, other places, other realms.
But today I'm going to be retreating into my hermit cave.
It's much cooler in the hermit cave. It's dark. I

(06:38):
don't have any electricity, so I have to telepathically broadcast
from there. That's why things are a little bit.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Off today.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
If you've noticed.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
The TV burns in the other room, I'm not quite
sure what it's saying anymore, or something like like being
an individual by our product.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
TV burning the rule.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
So I can talking to it, so you know, and
you can pick up some tasty tits from it.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
You can pick up new.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
Other ones the big.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
New play.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
You'll be able to actentify for a team, like when
I play the Bigness, I think.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
I woman, whether you know, may bring I can try
a lot. That's what people.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
If you want to keep it did be.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Cald and like something nothing.

Speaker 8 (08:06):
Like to do that would do okay, But.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Rode the Tree Company sample.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
A Welcome to the show. This is Ministry X on

(09:51):
Fringe Radio Network. I am Daniel X. Wow. Ten minutes
in and we're just getting started. Things move a little
bit more slowly when we're in the cave with my

(10:16):
manuscripts or my scrolls. Look at this now. I do
encourage you to go and listen to part one of

(10:38):
the Road the Tree. You don't necessarily have to listen
to that one first, but it'll give you a little
bit more background. Fortunately it was rebroadcast on Fringe Radio
Network as a Fringe flashback a week or two ago.

(11:01):
You know, to build interest in this mixture, mixture of
words and music and poetry. But really it's just my

(11:21):
journals that I will be reviewing. It also is part
of my testimony and the sort of ministry. I run
around here, which isn't much. We've got this here podcast,

(11:42):
We've got the Fringe Radio Network, We've got a little
bit of community outreach. I guess I I witnessed to
people that I work with. I leave sort of a
trail of business cards at the coffee shops and the

(12:07):
bars and other places I frequent that have like a
little corkboard, a little bulletin board or something. So anyways,
I talk to people. I talk here, and I talk
to you guys an email. And if you download the

(12:31):
Fringe Radio Network app, you can talk to me there
when Fringe Radio Network goes live, or you can talk
to Michael Basham, or you can talk to Timmy, or
you can talk to Cinderella X. You become like an
instant VIP. Just go to Fringe radionetwork dot com. Right

(12:55):
at the top of the page. You can download the
app for Android or Apple. That's also the same place
you want to go to sign up for live chat notifications.
And honestly, I miss having a church community, a church

(13:17):
that I belonged to ever since I moved to Idaho.
They've got a lot of non denominational strip mall churches,
but that might be changing soon. I am looking into
the Antiochian Orthodox Church here in town, so I might

(13:43):
be becoming a fringe Orthodox. We will see, because apparently
there is a process. There is a process, and.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'm pretty sure Orthodox is the opposite of fringe, I.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Know, right. I wonder if Johnny will kick me off
the board of directors at Fringe Radio Network. No, Johnny
wouldn't do that. Johnny's an awesome dude. Plus he's a
Baptocostal Catholic, and you know how they are. Plus there's

(14:18):
no reason why you can't research fringe subject matter, even
fringe stuff in the Bible or church history or hidden
history or aliens or whatever, and not adhere to the
Orthodox faith. Actually, I'm reading a really good book right now.

(14:43):
It's called Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by
Father Seraphim Rose, which was written in nineteen seventy five. Okay,
that's when I was born, and a lot of it
takes place in northern California, which is where I was born.

(15:06):
Except I had no clue what Orthodox.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
He was.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Until much later. And then all you really know is that, yeah,
there was a split, and in the East, the Orthodox
survived the Western churches became what's known as the Roman
Catholic Church going forward and like a thousand years ago,

(15:32):
So I mean, I barely knew that up until very
recently the past couple of years or so, been learning
a lot more about Orthodox theology and finding that it
aligns a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Better with.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
My understanding, I guess. But this book is concerning Orthodoxy
as the original church passed down by Jesus Christ and
continuing forward after this schism, and its response to the

(16:22):
new age religion that we're seeing blossoming now in this
return to polytheist religion, also the alien religion, the UFO religion.
You can see how that fits nicely with the subject
matter that I discuss here. So we might be bringing

(16:45):
that fringe Ortho bro perspective to ministry X here as
you will see as I continue on this road, this
spirit quest, I think the train might be pulling into

(17:10):
the station, so to speak. And that's what the road
the tree is all about. But one thing I will
not be doing is becoming, you know, an official spokesperson
for Orthodoxy or an Orthodox apologist, especially during this period

(17:31):
where I'm first entering the church, becoming a catechuman and
learning about church history and church theology. In other words,
it's very much discouraged that you speak on behalf of
the Eastern Orthodox Church. So, in other words, don't listen

(17:56):
to Ministry X if you're looking for Orthodox theology or
anything like that. Continue to listen though, if you're enjoying
the spiritual journey that I've been on, which is what
today's podcast is about. But a lot of my views
are shifting a little bit, especially in regards to the

(18:21):
esketon the end times. A lot of my presuppositions, my
evangelical dispensationalist views, I'm beginning to call into question. You know,

(18:43):
I've sort of been a pre millennial. I guess I'm
moving more to an amillennial position. I mean, I've already
been sort of at odds with some of the evangelical
stuff and the charismatic stuff, but all the fundamentals are

(19:08):
still there concerning Salvation, the Gospels, my view on the Trinity,
I just feel like the Holy Spirit is now leading
me into a deeper understanding, and not only that, a
return to communion with the Lord and receiving the Eucharist

(19:34):
and going to a church service that is liturgical, that
is worship in a much truer sense than you know,
a little rock concert with dopey emotional songs, and then

(19:55):
you know this cringe like hipster pastor guy giving a
PowerPoint presentation with a few scriptures and just moralism I
have always that's always rubbed me the wrong way, and

(20:17):
it doesn't inspire me, it annoys me. I want something deeper.
I need something deeper, and I need to have a
church community around me, you know, to support that transition,

(20:38):
which is just yet another refinement. I think that the
Holy Spirit is leading me into, So don't worry. I
don't have any plans on growing out my beard, just
looking for something more holy, more true, additional, and I

(21:08):
just think the church has become fractured, you know the
world of Protestantism, thirty thousand plus different denominations, and the
frustration of this, you know, go it alone diy Christianity,

(21:28):
where you can never find a church that aligns, you know,
one hundred percent with your beliefs. So you know, we'll
just start another church and start another denomination, or we'll
have no church and we'll just patch it all together
in alignment with our own understanding. And I'm just starting
to think that's that's an error. It's wrong. We need

(21:52):
to have solid teaching that's based on that first thousand
years of church history and the Church fathers go back
to the scriptures and have the correct interpretation of the scriptures,
not some wild interpretation or a denomination based on one

(22:19):
scripture taken out of context. There's no more unity. There's
no one visible church that non believers can look at
and say this is Christianity, at least with you know,
since the Reformation, which I think had some valid objections

(22:47):
to the papacy and indulgences and that sort of thing,
but now it's just become shattered. You know, you have
your non belief friends and family. You're like, come along
to church with me, and they're going to hear some wild,
crazy thing that doesn't make any sense. You know, it's detrimental,

(23:11):
honestly to the Kingdom of God. And I think now
I'm starting to understand that just you know, going it
alone and kind of making it up as you go along,
there's something missing there, and it's tradition, it's correct interpretation

(23:33):
of the Bible. So does that leave room for you know,
fringe theories and stuff. Sure, yeah, we can have discussions
about these things, but it's always also been about bringing
it back to the Word of God and getting it
right and the truth. And I think that sort of trumps,

(23:56):
you know, any idea of fringe. We're not fringe for
the sake of fringe. I mean, fringe is kind of
a misnomer anyways. I mean, I know this is the
Fringe Radio network and everything, but Fringe is basically the
truth in a time where the mainline church has gone

(24:19):
so far astray, Fringe is actually more orthodox, it's more central,
and there's plenty of mystery. There's plenty of difficult passages
in the Bible to try and understand. There's plenty of
things about history. There's plenty of things about you know,

(24:40):
cryptids and all this other stuff that we can still
talk about and we can still explore and try and
put in a biblical framework. It's still about restoring a
supernatural worldview that's been decimated by postmodernism and the Enlightenment

(25:02):
and materialism. You know, that's one string of the fringe
Christian movement. Is it fringe to talk about the Nephelim,
to talk about Genesis six? Is it fringe to talk
about interpreting the Bible by going back to the original

(25:23):
Hebrew and understanding the Hebrew language or the Greek. Is
it fringe to consider the septuagen translation of the Bible
the Old Testament? Is it fringe to think that there
were these hybrid creatures that once walked the earth and
interacted with human beings. Is it fringe to recognize, you know,

(25:48):
the reality of angels and demons. No, all that is Orthodox,
it's biblical, it's historical, and we can still look at
things with a scientific lens also, so none of that's changing.

(26:11):
I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not
a spokesperson or an apologist for the Orthodox Church in
any capacity. I am still on the journey. I am
still on the road. That's my little disclaimer there. And
with that being said, won't you join me.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Now?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
In Part one, I read excerpts from my journal and
then compare and contrast it with the scriptures, basically to
illustrate where I started in my walk with God and
where I ended up with various stops along the way.

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And so that's the outline of this. And some of
these entries are like from dream journal entries. Some of
them are automatic writing sessions. Some of them are just poems,
not a strict format. But there was a long road
to get to this point. And that's what I'm gonna

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be looking at here, and I'm gonna start off with
this from the searching scriptures, just checking all the wingers
and the dingers and the the sorry guys, how's that go?

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I called them here tonight to let them know the
voice still calls them. A fever of inspiration rushes in
as I observe the clamor of the gathering of years

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and servos, magnets and tickers, bottle cap bells, sticks, breathers, cords, fans, vibes, plates, bottles, stones, skin,

(29:19):
even those with their steel corner plates, rusted fazed circuit boards.
Yes they belong here too, Switches and beacons, classic clanking

(29:42):
corner stones of my reality. Tonight would be their last performance.
I had never heard a rubber band cry so mournfully

(30:09):
until that night. Even as the first unison was approaching,
the demon's stark figures waited on the hilltops, only seen

(30:30):
when the lightning flashed, the wind and rain whipped them about,
just like always, added a bunch of spontaneity. It was
nice to hear the refreshing sound of the air in

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between sets, and those old boys could still crank out
the juice for miles around. The crowd gathered, tired of
the new sound that had infiltrated the city. Some even

(31:18):
brought their old beat up breathers along with them and
formed a circle. They answered the performers, such that it
became much bigger. The people started to remember, and the
second unison was upon them. The chime boy released his

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breath and the dancing began. The crowd split off into spinlets,

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like planets suddenly reversing orbits wobbling from the counterforce. This
was the time for each to listen to their own
private tunes and play their own breather. But this never
lasts long. Soon they all spiraled towards the center again.

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Loneliness that the tendency of breathers to gravitate always keeps

(33:20):
the group together alone on the boundary, desires to merge arise, yes,
and this causes them all to rejoin and caress each
other who staying undy here. The rain allows this conductivity.

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The third unison gives rise to pure air. Soon one
tone is heard and a glimmering. I can't even take
this stuff seriously. I cannot read this in a serious fashion.

(34:10):
Oh my goodness. All right, rewind take two. The third
unison gives rise to pure air. Soon one tone is

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heard and a glimmering phantom of the breathers sound is
perceived but not actually present, and the demons on the
hilltop turn back. They turned back. They will all be

(35:01):
told by their superiors to forget, but some of them
will one day join the ranks of these grand clamoring monsters. Masters,
that is not monsters. This is, after all, the new
classical age. And the voice still calls them heartache. Yeah,

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I know, you gotta laugh at it, or else you're
gonna cry. That tune there is called I called it

(37:16):
other Room, Okay, So I had to let you listen

(38:19):
to the frenetic piano soloing there, and then there was
the poem that I was simultaneously reading there. Actually, the
tune before that was called Shelter. That's where we started.
Before I was known as Daniel X. I think I

(38:41):
was the Portuguese elf Man, not Danny Elfman. As for
the meaning of the poem, it was really this idea
of analog technology, things that were natural sort of producing

(39:03):
sound and producing music. But then it descends into this
sort of participatory concert slash orgy or something, and it's
presented as a good thing. And what the heck is
a breather? I mean, I wrote it to be purposefully vague,

(39:26):
open to interpretation. I look back on it now when
I read it, and it's funny to me. I was
such a new age weirdo, Carlos Castaneda guy or something.
I was reading a lot of Joseph Campbell and stuff
like that, Carl Jung and trying to be random and archetypal,

(39:52):
and none of that really worked out. And when I
read this stuff now, I'm like, man, I was delusional
and pre rest I don't know. Let's see if this
mesh is here, Okay, with this idea of the fringe Christian,

(40:12):
see the fringe Christian, This fringe Christian God his heartbroken
many times, let me tell you. But I also found
love and of family and created another human being. Again,

(40:36):
I apologize, storms whipped itself up outside. This is the
way of the fringe Christian. Some even dispute the term fringe.
Some consider us a cult, which is odd because We're

(40:58):
just Christians of a variety of denominations who also happen
to be truth seekers. I want to know the hidden history.
I want to know about the transhumanist future the alien

(41:19):
overlords are creating to captivate us. Captivate interesting word to
hold captive. We look at parallels in the ways that

(41:39):
God has chosen to interact with us. The Jews were
held captive. They became captivated by the little g gods
of their neighbors, and they stopped following the God of
their fathers and their father's fathers. Then they became subjugated

(42:06):
by their neighbors as a consequence. All throughout their history,
when the Jews stopped worshiping Yahweh Yahweh, allowed the invasions,
the administration of their lands to fall under other powers,
the expulsions, the slavery, the captivity. Except for the brief

(42:32):
period of time perhaps during the conquest of the Holy Land,
the Jews are repeatedly portrayed in their own scripture as
a stubborn, foolish people. Why spiritual adultery. The Bible is

(42:55):
not a hero's journey, it's not a Greek epic poem.
It's quite unlike the Babylonian or Sumerian epics, or the
Vedic or the Chinese or the Arabian or anything else.

(43:18):
In other words, if you were just writing your mythology,
wouldn't you portray your own people as heroic, victorious, untainted.
But no, they're portrayed as human beings with vices, deeply
flawed people, evil people in many respects. You know, you

(43:42):
start off with bad king, then you get a good king,
good king. A good king's gone bad.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Bad king, bad king, good king, bad king, bad king.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
In the New Testament as well. So how much more
reliable is the Bible as an accurate account as an
inspired account, an account that's rooted more in history. The

(44:24):
way of the fringe Christian may be to read between
the lines, so to speak, to view the Bible through
the eyes of those inspired writers, and to rightly divide
the word of truth. So we're not a cult, but

(44:48):
we recognize the occult and the adversary in the darkness.
We are mere time travelers and mystics as we look
forward to the fulfillment of prophecies and seeking to understand
our present situation in light of the prophetic cycles. I'm

(45:13):
talking about the blood booms of the apocalypse, and so
the fringe Christian can also lose his way. But what
does it mean to be in the spirit like John?

(45:37):
Should we read a selection from the Bible and then
real time live we are going to see this has
any connection to my stupid little poem that I just
read now? Of course, this is John speaking in Revelation

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chapter four. After these things, I looked and behold a
door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which
I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying,

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come up here, and I will show you things which
must take place after this. Immediately I was in the spirit,
and behold a throne set in heaven, and one sat
on the throne, and he who sat there was like
a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance, and there

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was a rainbow around the throne in appearance, like an emerald.
Around the throne were twenty four thrones, And on the
thrones I saw twenty four elders sitting clothed in white robes,
and they had crowns of gold on their heads. And

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from the throne preceded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps
of fire were burning before the throne, which are the
seven spirits of God. Before the throne, there was a
sea of glass like crystal. And in the midst of

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the throne and around the throne were four living creatures
full of eyes in front and in back. The first
living creature was like a lion, the second living creature
like a calf, The third living creature had a face
like a man, and the fourth living creature was like
a flying eagle. The four living creatures, each having six wings,

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were full of eyes around and within, and they do
not rest day or night, saying Holy, Holy, Holy Lord
God Almighty, who was and is and is to come
whenever the living creatures give glory and honor, and thanks

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to Him who sits on the throne, who lives for
ever and ever. The twenty four elders fall down before
him who sits on the throne, and worship Him who
lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before
the thrones, saying, you are worthy, o Lord, to receive
glory and honor and power, for you created all things,

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and by your will they exist and were created. So
there we have John's vision of the heavens.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
John, didn't you know take a few mushrooms. You know,
he saw a vision of heaven, but it's initiated by

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an angel. They come to John. John is not trying
to conduct a ritual communication. John did not just drop
acid here. He was contacted by an angel. This was

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initiated by an angel, which is a messenger of God.
So whenever you're involving this sort of spirit communication, you
have to develop the ability to discern spirits. Are you

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communicating with the spirit, the Holy Spirit? Are you communicating
with Jesus or is it your higher self? Is it
your personal guardian angel or the subconscious mind. It seems
to me you want to be kind of careful and

(50:37):
if you are using pharmaciea, if you are using drugs
to initiate the mind state to allow the communication to occur, okay,
then most likely you're not talking to non human intelligences

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of any higher order. See, I was going out seeking,
I was trying to open channels. I was using drugs,
and at best I was probably you know, allowing some
of my mental inhibitions and habituations sort of fall away

(51:29):
to further the creativity, the flow. But at best I'm
just you know, establishing some sort of communication with parts
of the subconscious mind. At worst, I'm actually communicating with
some sort of demonic entity. John is just mine in

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his business. Okay. John was not out here building a
tower with a stargate on top of it. John was
not casting a circle and calling in the four Directions
to open a channel of communication. John is chosen. All

(52:13):
the prophets of God are chosen for the purpose of
accomplishing God's will. Anybody can say anything and say that
you know, God told me so. But if it's not
part of, or if it's adding to divine revelation that's

(52:41):
already been provided to us through the scriptures and through
Jesus himself, Okay, that's sufficient. Now we do have the
writings of the church fathers and all of that. But

(53:02):
there's a difference to be drawn between new revelation, in
other words, something that hasn't previously been revealed in the
scripture or by Jesus himself or by John or Timothy. Okay,

(53:25):
there's a difference between new revelation something that's different or new,
versus a deeper understanding of what's already been revealed through
divine revelation. In other words, what am I trying to

(53:49):
say I'm struggling to explain this. You can have a
dream or a vision or something, but if you can't
take it back to the word, if you can't take
it back to the scripture, if you can't find it there,
then perhaps it's not part of God's will. Aliens aren't

(54:14):
in the Bible. Well, yeah, probably because you don't have
to worry about the aliens. Probably because there's other things
you need to worry about. Well, what about Ezekiel's wills? Yeah,
it's not a UFO, it's it's a it's a throne vision. Okay.

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That's not to say I'm solo scriptura, I'm not. Okay,
fringe Christians. What about Book of Enoch? You know, is
it okay for us to read that, to consider the
Book of Enoch, the Book of Jasher, some of these

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other extra biblical texts. Well, yes and no, I think selectively, Yes,
inasmuch as we can verify their authenticity because they're they're

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just expounding upon what's already been revealed, so you can
have a more detailed analysis of something. But that's not
that's not in the category of new you know, divine
public revelations that apply to the church at large, I

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think that's what I'm trying to say. That sort of
becomes a problem and people appointing themselves the profit of
their church or or perish. That's that's also a problem
for the same reason it's not legitimate for a serial
killer to say, you know, well, the voice of God

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was speaking to me and told me to kill these people. No,
you might be crazy, or you're speaking to some other voice.
You're hearing some other voice, not the voice of God. Okay,
but I'm not a strict cessationist here either. I believe
God can give you like personal revelation and stuff about

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your life. I believe the Holy Spirit can lead you
into a deeper understanding of God's word and God's purpose
in God's Kingdom. Okay, Like I said, there's a line
there though, and so's Yeah, let's take it back to
the Bible. What's the scripture. I think it's two Timothy,

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chapter three, verse sixteen. All scripture is breathed out by
God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and
for training in righteousness, that the Man of God may
be complete equipped for every good work. In other words,

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everything that a believer needs has already been delivered. It's
already there. It may be waiting for you to discover it,
and the Holy Spirit might be, you know, nudging you

(57:36):
to really read the scripture and get the meaning of it.
But it's already there. So I don't have problem with
Bible teachers who are getting into the Bible and finding
verses and finding connections to other verses and connecting the
dots and understanding prophecy and stuff. It's already been revealed.

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It's already there. So that tends to disqualify a lot
of these cults and a lot of these sects that
are centered around a charismatic leader reading his own heresy

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into the scripture. And I'm just saying we have to
be careful of that. We'll read another scripture, Hebrews chapter one.
Long ago. At many times and in many ways, God
spoke to our fathers by the prophets. But in these

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last days he has spoken to us by his son,
whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom
also he created the world. He is the radiance of
the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature,
and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.

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After making purification for sins. He sat down at the
right hand of the Majesty on High, having become as
much superior to angels, as the name he has inherited
is more excellent than theirs. So also, do we need
to be contacting angels and getting advice from the angels

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and dispatching angels to here and there to protect certain
people and help certain people? Know, I think we need
to be praying directly to Jesus. Don't worry about the angels.

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Why not, Well, because Satan can disguise himself as an
angel of light, you think you're going to be able
to discern the difference. Basically, what I do here involves
a lot of discernment, because there's a lot of Christians
falling into these traps and these old heresies that are

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just coming back again. I mean, I was like trying
to contact the dead and communicate with the dead and
thinking that somehow that would give me some prophecy, some revelation,
some knowledge of the future, some knowledge of my life,

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or some understanding of the afterlife. So I did ghost
hunting and stuff for a while too, basically with the
spirit of curiosity, just investigating these things, wanting to understand
these things better. And you know, the Bible was kind
of the furthest thing from my mind. I have all

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these tapes of these investigations, its ghost hunts.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
There's very little light out here now, just the residual
light from the setting sun.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
This sky's kind of indigotto.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
There's bugs in the bushes, sounds like crickets, periotic cars.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
Driving by, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
M, riding d the bulge, a puzzling, obstacled road, grittly

(01:02:27):
paved speed bumps and yellow cautioned drizzly morning errand a
simple pink trapezoidal door. There is a trick to opening it,
just push. I pulled myself onto the window pane up

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and into the classroom. That was hard, I said sarcastically.

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Look the teacher is handing out our crafts memoirs of
a Japanese trick doorh Now, I don't know what that

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little poem has to do with uh This track, which
is called Who's Gonna be another sort of vague reference
to who knows what in an Eland style man here,

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I guess the Bible wasn't the furthest thing from my mind,
though next to it, or rather, God wasn't the furthest
thing from my mind. Maybe the Bible, but I certainly
didn't have an understanding of who Jesus was. But listen
to this, I beg of you. Do not establish yourself,

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Do not gather possessions, Do not have any strategies. No
one will harm you. God will guide you through.

Speaker 6 (01:05:04):
You can speak into this recording.

Speaker 10 (01:05:12):
I'll set it down here and tell me what you wish.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Here's another selection. They're wheeling him in the actor's gild.
The white alien hatchling, riding in a hurdy gurdy, having
your eyes. You're wearing a mask. I watch them remove

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you from your slimy egg. They clamp you down on
a vice grip crane and unscrew your plastic insect legs.
A delicate process, a puzzle. Everyone sit now around the monitor.

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Look at the beautiful people dancing. There is a woman
with breasts on her back. That's convenient? Is it the
people in the room or on the monitor? He feels good.

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The water envelops the whole crowd at the ankles. Let's
splash around in this multi media presentation a documentary. I
am inside this and images surround me. A girl appears
dancing and vanishes of course, the dancing girl always vanishes.

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Orange Liit Vampyrus shows me her fangs and the picture
goes out, turns to static snow. Now I am outside again.
Something dangles in front of the screen, but out of focus.

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A voice says, my way is the very essence of
our being coming into focus. It's a feathered DreamCatcher. Another
voice hints at the inner light, and the image of

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a cheetah appears through the snow, blinking his yellow green
eyes slowly. Now, please allow me to explain myself the
reason why these are so cringe weird. Well, a lot
of them are from my dream journal. These are dreams

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that I've had, or partial dreams, and I've taken the
little bits that I can remember and expanded upon them
and sort of fleshed out the idea a little bit
and turned them into poems, which really creates some strange visuals.

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Hopefully it does that much. But they're very dreamlike, very weird.
As you can see, the theme of a lot of
this stuff is me trying to sort of interpret signs
and visions and other spirits and creatures, and that was

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basically my religion. Now, another part of this religion that
I had afted was divination, which is witchcraft using oracles

(01:09:11):
and that sort of thing. And as I've mentioned many
times before, my entryway into the occult and ritual magic
came through the I Chin, through the mysticism of the East.

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So I would do automatic writing and that sort of thing,
various types of oracle casting, and sometimes I would just
get high and get in front of my computer and
just type stuff as it came to me. Who knows

(01:10:00):
what I was communicating with. And in many of these things,
some of which I haven't read. There's pages and pages
and pages of this stuff, and I'm going back and
reading it now, and I'm like, man, I was crazy,
and I was not caring what I was inviting in

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or what I was allowing to speak through me. But
it's also foundational to the sort of discernment ministry thing
that I do, because I can actually see how you know,
if I didn't have a conscience, you know, this could

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be this could be the sacred texts, and I could be,
you know, some charismatic cult leader. I'm on God's sad now,
But when anybody starts talking like this, I know that

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they're dealing with the kind of spirits that I was
dealing with. This was written probably nineteen ninety six, and
that's when a lot of this music was composed. Also,

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this one's called crossing the Great Stream back when I
actually had a drummer, Where the firewall keeps you back

(01:12:22):
thirty three and sixty six conspire, Droid can execute commands.
I can use my fingers, Bible, hallucinogens and cotex and

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blow up a coxplex. There is no coxplex. Coco is
in love with Bobo. Avoid the raucous that is your forecast.

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So I was actually communicating with something here. I was
receiving a forecast, although it's kind of hard to decipher,
like who is Coco, who is Bobo? Who's in love with? Who?
Does Bobo love Coco back? I mean, it's almost like
my subconscious is ciphering this as I'm writing it. This continues,

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slight possession, shook, magic does happen? Give us our eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
You can can't throw it all away? Would you, with
no glory in your life, be glorious one step away?
These are not my words, I say. The crooner brushes
his hair aside. The hipster loosens his stride. The Alpha

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appears to be contemplating a career move because the drummer
and the bass player allowed the groove to slide, and well,
that just ain't jive. Blue trapezoid left, orange circle corone

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target left. Use your ears for balance. Tilt your head.
There is a message. Someone has left a message. See
it now. There is a letter, a single letter, a letter.

Speaker 11 (01:15:12):
This is a pie. Pie Pie is a genie or
a gin, right genie gin same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
You may come to seek him to PLANTUSA. I'm not
sure what I wrote here and beneath the oceans now,

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according to legend, if you reach the other side of
the Great Stream, you will come to the land of yesterday.
Actually according to my track listing here, I mean, I

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just don't know what to read here anymore. A lot
of this is cut up, like I cut stuff out
of it a long time ago. That's because I think
there was chat logs and stuff in here too, and
I didn't want that to be part of the larger work,
the great work.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
Oo.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
So crossing the Great Stream. That's an iching reference. The
phrase typically appears in the judgment sections or in the
specific lines of the hexagrams in the I ching, and

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it indicates whether or not conditions are favorable for undertaking
a major, often risky endeavor, navigating challenges or transitions, overcoming obstacles,
and achieving progress through perseverance and correct timing. Now, historically

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in China, this would be a reference to King Wu
and his revolt against the Yin dynasty in eleven twenty
two BC. He had to cross the Great Yellow River
as part of that campaign, and back here in the

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good old United States he got George Washington, and he
notoriously has to cross the Potomac during the Revolutionary War.
So it's this idea of overcoming a great challenge against

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great odds and having success, hopefully not drowning or getting
pulled into the undertow. The crossing the Great Stream is
incorporated into several of the hexagram arrangements. Hexagram number five

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zoo is waiting or kneeding. It states it will be
advantageous to cross the great stream that is going forward
will be followed by meritorious achievement. It advises patients before action,

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with the crossing representing a hazardous enterprise that succeeds through
inner strength and discipline. Hexagram eighteen is goot work on
what has been spoiled remedying, and the judgment includes there

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will be advantage in crossing the great stream. He who
advances will encounter the business to be done. Hexagram forty
two ye, which is increase. Okay, this is wood over
water and it suggests a boat to carry out the crossing. Okay,

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Noah's ar is wood over water. It represents beneficial growth
through venturing into challenging territories, into challenging waters. Does it
just represent survival, No, it represents a great transition, a

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new covenant even and if successful leads to increase. So
crossing a little stream you just have to buck up
and you might get your pants wet. But crossing the
great stream, okay, that requires supernatural strength or faith. So

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I was slowly working through these things.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Back then.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
That supernatural strength was like my chie my life force.
I didn't credit that to God or God's spirit breathed
into me, and I didn't know anything about the gospel
or turning your life over to Jesus. So there's a

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lot of references to the Great Stream, and it was
an idea I was preoccupied with for a while. Hence
the title of the song. Hexagram fifty nine is Huan,
which means dispersion or dispersing. It will be advantageous to

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cross the great stream. The subject of the hexagram rides
in a vessel of wood over water and will do
so as success. Hexagram sixty one Zongfu inner truth, innermost sincerity.
The judgment states there will be advantage in crossing the

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great Sha. We see in the figure one riding on
the emblem of wood, which forms an empty boat. Okay,
Confucius would come along later and expand on these, and
he sort of put his emphasis on moral firmness and

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proper conduct righteousness in the Ichin, crossing the great stream
symbolizes a pivotal transition across uncertainty or peril, often requiring preparation, sincerity,
and alignment with natural forces. Okay, it was very much

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about going with the flow of change and not resisting change.
The stream or water represents danger, change or the unknown,
while crossing implies action toward achievement, like subduing inner instincts

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or external challenges. It's auspicious when conditions are right, but
risky otherwise. And this sort of goes to the Eiching's
core philosophy, which is harmonious adaptation to change. It's called

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the Book of Changes, okay, And that connects with this
idea of baptism as well, because you have to go
through the water or the abyss, and when you emerge
you're a changed man or a woman, hopefully one or
the other. Yeah, yeah, not that kind of transition. But

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as I look across the river here a closer look,
I think I can see the opposite shore. Could it
be the land of yesterday? And we are here today

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in the land of yesterday. I'm going to read this
selection and then a couple selections here, and then we're
gonna read some scriptures, and then we're gonna wrap it up.

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There is no difference between my eye liquids and the
waters of the meandering flood channel. The fears and thoughts
of our world they carry. And when the sky cries,

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tears flow from my eyes and I gaze into a
thousand shimmering ripples, wind blown and sunlit, two puddles side
by side. What draws them together?

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
Is this the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Last time I will swim with you? For now? The
birds sing, their evening has just begun. Mine will be
over too soon. For now, the grasses grow tall, the

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reeds comb, the stiff breeze. What is it all singing
about the wind flutes on my soda bottle? What song
is this? What note is the hum of the living universe? Okay,

(01:26:50):
this is me just staring out at the water, tripping
out thinking I'm gonna do one more selection here, but
this one requires a little bit different music.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
You have an opportunity.

Speaker 8 (01:27:15):
Now that's so interesting. M m hm hm.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Have your robotic assistant chop off your arms, chop off
your legs, hack off your head from your torso, scoop
your brain out of your skull, and strategically place it
in your home base unit by first scanning your unique

(01:29:03):
brain pattern. Be sure to first set up your home
based unit and load your personal file. Your robotic assistant
will glaze your brain with a special electromagnetic gel. This

(01:29:23):
allows your organic brain waves to interact with the telelink
signal protocol code by modulating input and output signals. Once
your brain pattern has been scanned and encoded into your homepage,

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interactivity can begin with others. Others will see a representation
of your brain in the form of a light bulb icon.

(01:30:05):
Now there's a missing page here. What five four five?
It finishes When others mentally access this icon, which also
has your twenty character identification tag. They will be able

(01:30:28):
to interact with any files which you had previously designated
accessible when first setting up your personal file. Now ah, now,

(01:30:53):
I know that sounds like the directions for setting up
a profile, you know, to like your Facebook page. That's
like connected directly to your brain. Actually, I don't think
there's a body anymore, just a brain. And I wrote

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this in nineteen ninety six. This was or ninety seven,
somewhere around there, before the Internet really got going. So
I think that's interesting. I don't know if you find
it interesting. Let's read a scripture though, that seems to

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coincide with this and the themes of these poems. That
was stepped on a jellyfish, that tune, which is in
most cases a bad thing, especially if it's one of
those Portuguese man of wars. I am the Portuguese man

(01:32:02):
of war of spiritual Anyways, the scripture, so I'm going
to start here first Corinthians, chapter eleven, and we're going
to start at verse seventeen. Now, this is basically all

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about the Lord's supper. This is Paul. Now, in giving
these instructions, I do not praise you, since you come
together not for the better, but for the worse. For
first of all, when you come together as a church,

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I hear that there are divisions among you, and in
part I believe it, for there must also be factions
among you, that those who are approved may be recognized
among you. Therefore, when you come together in one place,
it is not to eat the Lord's supper, for in eating,

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each one takes his own supper ahead of others, and
one is hungry and another is drunk. What do you
not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do
you despise the Church of God and shame those who
have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I

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praise you?

Speaker 7 (01:33:37):
In this?

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I do not praise you. Continuing on, for I received
from the Lord that which I also delivered to you.
That the Lord Jesus, on the same night in which

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he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks,
he broke it and said, take eat. This is my
body which is broken.

Speaker 7 (01:34:09):
For you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Do this in remembrance of me. In the same manner,
he also took the cup after supper, saying, this cup
is the new covenant in my blood. This do as
often as you drink it in remembrance of me. For

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as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,
you proclaim the Lord's death till he comes. Therefore, whoever
eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord
in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body
and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself,

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and so let him eat of the bread and drink
of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in
an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not
discerning the Lord's body. For this reason, many are weak
and sick among you, and many sleep. For if we

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would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when
we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that
we may not be condemned with the world. Therefore, my brethren,
when you come together to eat, weit for one another.
But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home,

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lest you come together for judgment. And the rest I
will set in order when I come. Wow, so Paul's
getting fired up. This is pretty important, and I would

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see the contrast would be my I was choosing communion
with nature, you know, I was staring out across the
ocean or across the river and watching the sun reflect

(01:36:20):
off the ripples in the water, and just noticing the
beauty around me, the serenity, the interconnectedness of everything, and
so that sort of represented God to me. That's how
I viewed it. What Paul is saying here is that

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without the body and the blood of Christ, you don't
have that same communion. He's saying, people at the what
was that people at the Lord's Supper were man that

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derailed me? That was weird live spiritual warfare people. What
Paul is saying here is that, you know, people are
showing up to the Lord's Supper and they're goofing off
and they're getting drunk, and they're not paying attention to

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the people who were hungry, who are thirsty cutting in
line to get the biggest piece of bread, and Paul
has some pretty stern words for them. You know, you
shouldn't be participating in this if you're gonna be a

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fool and unrepentant or whatever. So obviously this has to
do with the transition that I'm going through. I'm crossing
the Great Stream. The stream is part of the road
in the tree, because when you're going along on the road,

(01:38:20):
sometimes you skid down the side of the embankment down
to the creek or the stream, and you walk the
river bed and then you climb up and onto a tree. Now,

(01:38:44):
having thusly arrived at the tree, that signifies we have
come to an end or just another churning point. And you,
guys off the hook. I got a little bit of
scriptures in there, got a little bit of journal in there,

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some old music. I hope you guys enjoyed the broadcast.
Tell me what you think. Of course, anytime send me
an email ministry x at ProtonMail dot com. I'd like
to hear your testimony. But for now, I will cut
the duct tape, I will undo the zip ties, and

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everybody can just down the hallway here and see that
exit sign right on out the door. Yes, God be
with you, God be with you. Go with God, go
wipe your feet. There you go. Oh, if you'd like
to stick around, everybody, I've got a few news items
I want to discuss on the other side of the break.

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I'm going to talk a little bit about Charlie Kirk
after this, and we're back. You've been listening to ministry

(01:41:42):
X on Fringe Radio Network. Now, a lot of people
have been asking me. Obviously there's a lot of conversation,
a lot of tears, a lot of confusion, a lot

(01:42:04):
of anger, a lot of speculation going on about the
Charlie Kirk assassination, the murder of Charlie Kirk, and so
I wanted to use one of my news slots here
to talk about that. First of all, all the love and.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Support and prayers to Charlie Kirk's family, all the people
that worked closely with him, There's no doubt in my
mind that this was an assassination. I'm not saying this

(01:42:58):
was a staged event. I don't know about that things
could just synchronistically be happening, but certainly I believe it's
clear he was targeted because he was a Christian who

(01:43:22):
had no fear in you know, being an apologist for
his faith and who actually reached out to the opposition,
allowed them to speak their mind, didn't just ridicule them

(01:43:44):
and put them down.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
And he went right into Mordoor, you know, going to
these super woke liberal universities and basically mopping the floor
with these college kids, and despite that, managed to connect

(01:44:09):
with young people managed to gain quite a following, so
I will give that to the man. I mean, his
shirt said freedom on it, And in some sense, I
think it had to be Charlie because he was the

(01:44:32):
one guy that would have a civil discussion about something
and was very gracious to the opposition. So he wasn't
an extremist, despite what's been said about him, what he's
been accused of on the internet. I've seen posts, I've

(01:45:03):
heard comments and remarks from people far more extreme than
Charlie Kirk, but they're still alive and trolling all across
the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
And not that I didn't have some criticisms of TPUSA,
you know, conservative inc. But it just means he was
one of the bigger names out there. And so I'm

(01:45:40):
not going to take anything away from him. Why because
he's probably brought a lot more people to Jesus than
I have, and I don't really know what his particular,
you know, beliefs are. But there was a lot of

(01:46:04):
mixing of politics in religion, but in a sense there
always has been. But I think the big takeaway from
this and what they want you to understand if you're
a Christian, if you're a believer of whatever denomination that

(01:46:29):
bullet eventually is going to be for you. It's a
culture war, it's a spirit war. It's going to eventually
lead to physical war, civil war, and of course that's

(01:46:50):
what they want. This seemed to be perfectly timed, like
shooting a power or keg, perfectly timed to infuriate the right,
who I think has been a little let down by

(01:47:13):
the current administration. And I think we all feel that
frustration pretty much. I've felt that frustration for everybody that
I've ever voted for, you know, and turns out we're

(01:47:34):
not going to get any justice when it comes to
the Epstein stuff, when it comes to you know, the Clintons,
when it comes to Russia Gate, when it comes to
any of this, nobody's going to prison. And so honestly,

(01:47:59):
I've been checked out of politics largely. I do monitor
the geopolitical situation, but my soul is not as engaged
in that sort of discussion because I recognize, you know,

(01:48:21):
the powers and principalities at play here or at war here,
spiritual wars reflected in physical war, and it just feels
like we're scrambling towards chaos, and you know, wouldn't it

(01:48:47):
be ironic if it were the Trump administration that ushered
in this AI technocratic pallunteer control grid system. I mean, really,
he's taken his base and giving them all whiplash. So

(01:49:14):
in a way, whether this guy is a patsy or
you know, wasn't the real shooter, or whether these texts
or emails are real or not, those are all valid questions,
and I don't think we're ever gonna know the truth.
Just like every other shooting incident, we I mean, we

(01:49:42):
are hurtling toward the apocalypse. I mean it certainly feels
that way, like the singularity, where we're going to reach
a stage here very quickly where this technology is going
to outpace us. We already can't tell the difference between
AIM and AI videos and AI enhanced videos. So my

(01:50:07):
point is, if your overlords can get us fighting over
left versus right, liberal versus conservative, Republican democrat, I mean,
they got you. And if they can get you afraid,

(01:50:31):
if they can make you angry, they can manipulate your emotions.
They could get conservatives and evangelicals to back gun restrictions
for trans people, or you know, mass surveillance, Internet IDs

(01:50:55):
and you'll go along with it. So just some things
to think about. Obviously, it's a tragedy. You could argue
he was martyred for his faith, and I just think
about his family and his children, and it really makes

(01:51:20):
me sad. And both sides of the political spectrum can
seize on that, and they have they have, and like
I said, this seems perfectly timed to ignite people on

(01:51:40):
the right. Conservatives think about it. He was reaching the
gen Zs, and I think Charlie was a millennial, right,
Usually the gen Zs hate the millennials, but they think
that gen xers are cool. I don't know why. We're

(01:52:03):
the ones who raised them. That's why they turned out
all autistic and stuff, because of our collective neglectitude, you know,
letting our children be raised by their tablets, their devices
and anyways, that's beside the point. I do have a

(01:52:25):
lot of strong feelings about the Charlie Kirk killing and
it makes me sad because this accelerationism, this nihilism, this Marxism,
that's the direction this country is heading. So you understand,
Charlie Kirk was a family man, a marrying man, Christian man,

(01:52:53):
conservative man. I mean, the guy said down and had
a round table discussion not too long ago with a
bunch of porn star girls and was a perfect witness

(01:53:15):
to what a man should be. And none of these
girls had a good relationship with their fathers. They didn't
speak with their fathers, their fathers were otherwise absent or
checked out. They come from divorced families, their runaways, whatever,

(01:53:35):
and saying, you know, there's nothing greater, there's no greater
feeling in the world than having your child run up
to you and say, daddy, daddy, And he prayed that
they could experience that someday. That is not a man

(01:53:56):
who is this hate feeling old person that people on
the left try to portray him as.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
Bold.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Yes, sure, but that doesn't equate with hateful. I don't
see any of the real hateful people getting killed. Anyways,

(01:54:29):
Onto another story here, another area of life where we'll
never get the answers, and that would be the UFO
UAP disclosure ongoing fiasco that I cover on this podcast,

(01:54:50):
and I do monitor the UFO Twitter. I see pretty
much all of these UFO videos that come out. By
the way, if you want to follow me on X,
I am at FRN Underscore Daniel underscore X. Please follow

(01:55:12):
me there. It's really hard to get traction. I just
get a lot of bots and stuff, So follow me
there if you're on X, and usually I will drop
articles and videos and stuff that I'm talking about on
my current podcast. Then we share memes and that sort

(01:55:33):
of thing. So hop on over to X. I mean,
I probably don't engage enough, so if you're on there,
then I have another person to engage with. Anyways, there
was another hearing in front of the House Committee on
UAP transparency.

Speaker 10 (01:55:55):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
So we basically had a lot of test testimony. George
Knapp was there giving his testimony. I think there was
a Navy pilot. So I gotta make this quick, but
I'm going to play a clip from probably the most
interesting testimony, which is the Vandenberg Air Force Base sightings.

Speaker 12 (01:56:27):
The incursions began on October fourteenth, two thousand and three,
when Boeing contractors reported a massive glowing red square silently
hovering over two missile defense sites. After several minutes, it
drifted further east onto the base and vanished over the hills.
This event, now known as the Vanderberg Red Square, was

(01:56:47):
referenced by Representative Luna at the first hearing on this topic.
Official Air Force records of this event are in possession
by ARROW and the FBI. That night, while I was
on duty, security guards at a critical launch site reported
a bright, fast moving object over the ocean. I responded

(01:57:09):
to the incident. Chaos ensued over the radio as the
object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming, it's coming
right at us, It's coming right for us, and now
it's right here. Moments later I heard them say that
it had shot off and was gone. When I arrived
on seeing, I talked to five shaken witnesses who described

(01:57:31):
a massive triangular craft larger than a football field, that
hovered silently for about forty five seconds over their enter
control point before shooting away at impossible speed. About a
week later, another patrol reported a light over the ocean
behaving erratically. Believing it might be an unannounced aircraft, they

(01:57:51):
declared an emergency and an armed response force responded. Before
the forces could arrive, the object is set and either
landed or hovered.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
Oh my god, Haimi Mussan is like dozing off in
the background here. During mister Nukatelli's testimony about the Vandenberg
Air Force Base sightings, which is very interesting. This is
where the giant red square report came from, the size

(01:58:29):
of a football field, which I've commented on this before. Oh,
I'm getting an echo.

Speaker 6 (01:58:41):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Fix that problem. I've commented on this before. I think
we're dealing with something interdimensional here. Now a lot of
these sightings I believe are secret military aircraft, drones, other vehicle,
maybe tic TACs. I don't think they're necessarily alien aircraft.

(01:59:05):
I don't even think they're reverse engineered from captured alien aircraft.
I tend to think that we're in communication with and
a lot of these black projects involve communication with non
human intelligence where these ideas are coming from. It's a

(01:59:28):
technology exchange. In other words, Bob Lazar's notion that we
obtained this craft it was like an archaeological site. They
dug it up, retrieved it, and he was instructed to
reverse engineer the so called alien technology. But I think

(01:59:49):
it's just stuff we were working on, and it was
circulated around that this is alien technology. We have alien
bodies as a cover. I've talked about this extensively. I'm
not really gonna get into it in any great detail.
And I don't have a lot of time to go

(02:00:10):
through this entire hearing, but I'm gonna play one more
clip now. This is a video that was shared during
the hearing, and I'll let mister Burlison set this up.
He's one of the congress people here.

Speaker 13 (02:00:30):
Look, I'm not jumped to the conclusion that I believe
that there are you know, aliens coming from another planet.
But I'm open to that, and I think that it's
my our responsibility, especially when we're seeing that we have
a government that is blocking, actively blocking information from us.
Just last night, I tried to get an amendment onto

(02:00:50):
the National Events Authorization Act that fit in the germaneus
of that bill to have UAP disclosure, and conveniently it
was named non Germaine mostly deemed by staff, not even
an elected official. This is the kind of stuff that
we repeatedly see. Last year, we were blocked by someone

(02:01:11):
in House administration from being able to receive a full
briefing from Arrow. So not an elected official, but someone
in staff blocked us.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
And I've had enough is enough?

Speaker 13 (02:01:24):
I want to queue up a video that I've been given,
and as before it starts, I'm going to describe this
was taken October thirtieth of twenty twenty four. This video
is of an m Q nine drone tracking an orb
or this object off the coast of Yemen. You'll see
that another m Q nine launched a hellfire missile that

(02:01:48):
you cannot see that drone and so'll I'm not going
to explain it to you. You'll see exactly what it does.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
I'm sure you've seen this by now on line, on
YouTube or whatever. You see the UFO in the center
of the screen here and then coming in from the
top left hand corner of the frame, what we are
told as a hell fire missile intercepts the UFO, but

(02:02:20):
it's almost as if some sort of magnetic field diverts
the missiles.

Speaker 13 (02:02:26):
It zoomed out.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
The missile sort of works around the UFO and it
appears to take a piece out of it. There is
debris that comes off the UFO and it keeps following
the UFO, Whereas the debris should just be shot off,

(02:02:49):
you would think, and just start to fall to the ground,
But the debris accelerates right along with the UFO, which
is very bizarre. I don't have an explanation for it,
but like mister Berlinson said, I don't jump to the
conclusion that these are aliens flying spaceships from other planets.

(02:03:11):
There are other explanations. Now I could do another deep
dive on these hearings. It was interesting to hear what
George Knapp said also his response to this. I'm not
gonna play that. I did deep dives on the first
two congressional hearings, and.

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
I guess we'll see what comes of this hearing. What
they're really trying to accomplish is passing this UAP Transparency
Act of twenty twenty five. They're trying to get enough
bipartisan support to pass this. But I'm just maybe I'm
blackpilled on the subject. I don't think we're ever going
to see the truth. I don't think we're ever going

(02:03:59):
to see true disclosure. Maybe we'll get partial disclosure, or
we'll get some more plausible narratives. But I think if
they managed to pass this bill, I think this is
gonna quietly go away and people will get to write

(02:04:24):
books and stuff. Heck, I'm gonna write a book about
it and pull the plug on the whole fake disclosure thing.
They're not gonna let the real whistleblowers speak, do you think.

Speaker 10 (02:04:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
I think the real whistleblowers are terrified. These guys talk about,
you know, how they've been harassed and ridiculed and that
sort of thing. But I think the real whistleblowers like
they've been directly threatened, they've had a gun to their head,
or their famili's been threatened. They're in too deep. And

(02:05:05):
the Congress these hearings, they're not interviewing the right people.
They're not noticed, they're not pulling anybody in from the Pentagon.
It's just these navy pilots and stuff. Why can't we
get like the head of the CIA to testify. Why
can't we get someone from the Pentagon to testify? I

(02:05:28):
don't know what do you think? Send me an email
if you have any questions comments about disclosure quote unquote disclosure,
or Charlie Kirk or the Road the Tree. I can
be reached.

Speaker 9 (02:05:46):
At Ministry ex at proton mail dot com.

Speaker 13 (02:05:54):
Ministerekis Atrota mail dot com.

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want to cover that I didn't get to today. But
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