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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Well, there were thirteen root bloodlines that the Kingdom of
Darkness is primarily partnering with to bring about the Antichrist
agenda in the Earth. It was given the privilege of
being pulled into that scroll. I flew through that role
like it was a portal. And the purpose that God
has for us is beyond anything that we have made
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room for until now. You're listening to Discovering Truth with
Dan Deval Friends, We're back on Discovering Truth with Dan
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Deval as. I am continuing on my effort to make
sure this podcast goes out weekly. I am going to
be talking to you a little bit today about my
latest book, Awakened Friends.
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This book is jam packed.
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I mean, it is loaded, and it focused on the
preademic agis. It's going to focus on creation, and it's
going to focus on this and developing narrative surrounding the
spirit of man. And this conversation is so vast and
so big it's hard to conceptualize certain things in just
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a few statements. But the overarching men in narrative that
I've been journeying over the past few years, and if
you've been following me, if you from following the Bride
Ministry's church, you'll know that we did all extended series
on the preodamic ages. Also, I've done a few podcasts
on this subject. But I'll tell you it just won't
stop expanding. And the reality is there are a lot
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of people that are kind of, you know, on the
fence about this subject because you know, preodemic has not
been necessarily the popular view in christiandom, at least in
the West. And I know, for one, I never really
waited the reality of a preadamic era as important, especially
early in my walk, because I was trained to believe
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that creation was young. I was trained in Young Earth theology.
I was trained to believe that God created the earth
in six literal twenty four hour days at the beginning
of Genesis one, and everything that we observe in creation
is going to have its truth revealed when placed in
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a roughly six thousand year narrative that takes us to
present day. So the idea of any kind of activity
on the Earth prior to Adam's creation, to me was nonsense.
It didn't it didn't land, it didn't make sense. And
you know, I really really was strongly attached to that
viewpoint for a long time, and I went through a
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series of things that that forced me to reconsider some
of my opinions. These began with deliverance and and with
the deliverance experiences, we would be working with people and
you know, we'd get to certain things that we would
be repenting off. And anybody that's worked in deliverance understands
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that sometimes things break and sometimes they don't.
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And you may be using tools.
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We may have been using tools that you know worked
under some circumstances, but with others it would fail to work,
and then we'd have to lean into Holy Spirit and
be like, what are we missing? What legalities, what Unknown
claims as the Kingdom of Darkness has? Why is this
not processing through? And there would be times where Holy
Spirit would come back and say, you need to deal
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with this issue in the bloodline back before Atom, and
the language would be given to us. It has to
be before Atom. And whereas we may repent of something
back to Atam or even three or four generations, in
some cases we'd have a breakthrough. In other cases there
would be no breakthrough. We wouldn't get the breakthrough in
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some of those cases until we use the very specific
language before Atom.
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And this.
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Yielding a breakthrough for certain individuals forced a conversation after
a report, I had to ask in myself. I had
to ask in my time with God, why is there
a need to repent of certain things in bloodlines to
a time before Adam before it breaks? Now, before I
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go any further on that, some of you are going
to immediately have this question.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Dan.
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I've heard some deliverance ministers say that you're supposed to
repent the things back to Adam. I hear you saying
you repent of some things back before Adam. But when
I read my Bible in the Book of Deuteronomy, in
other places it says the Lord visits the iniquity of
the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations.
Why would you do that? If it says visits the
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iniquity to the third and fourth generations, that doesn't make
sense according to my Bible, and friend, I will answer
you with this simple statement. There are things in the
Bible known as idioms. Idioms are statements that utilize language
to communicate an idea, but the literal words are not
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what the meaning is anchored to. Like when you know
twenty years ago, thirty years ago, you heard people say
things like go take a hike. Now, for young folks,
you may not understand what that means. What do you
mean by that? You mean go hike in the mountains? Exactly,
that's what you're thinking, because when you take a hike,
you go in the mountains. But there was a point
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in time where take a hike meant get out of
my face.
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I don't want to talk to you anymore.
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But if you were to write down take a hike,
and you didn't have cultural context for that statement, you
wouldn't understand that it is an idiom, and you'd be like, Wow,
this person really likes to tell everybody they don't like
to go hike in a mountain. That's not what they mean.
The term visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the
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children to the third and fourth generations is actually an idiom,
and the actual idea behind that is is more like
as long as it takes, and so there's not a
specific time frame on that statement because it's actually an idiom.
Same thing with when Jesus said how many times do
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I need to forgive my brother? And he says seventy
times seven, not seven. Does Jesus literally mean four hundred
and ninety times. No, it doesn't mean that. He means
as many times as you need to because that was
an idiom. So, yeah, there is an idiom around this one,
and that's confused a lot of deliverance people. But the
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reality is there are certain things that don't break in
my lived experience until we are dealing with them. Behind Adam,
the question is why as I began to grow in
my question about this, I landed on certain information that
forced another conversation, and that was because we were getting
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into all of these questions are the Illuminati bloodlines? And
one of the things that was you know, communicated to
me is well, there are thirteen root bloodlines that the
Kingdom of Darkness is primarily partnering with to bring about
the Antichrist agenda in the Earth. And these are the
thirteen root blood lines of the Illuminati. That's when I
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began to understand that the Illuminati, that it's not just
a bunch of people and rappers and famous folks that
get recruited to a you know, a devil's clubs. It's
actual bloodlines. And these people are pulling on ancient powers
and initiations into knowledge that is very secret or occult,
and it runs in the family. Because in occult world
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everything is about iniquity. They understand that iniquity doesn't just disappear,
it can be compounded from one generation to the next.
The Antichrist himself will be the perfection of iniquity in
a living vessel. And to that end, you have thirteen
root bloodlines that are carrying extraordinary investments of iniquity in
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order to be participant in the bringing about of the
end time plans of the Kingdom of Darkness. Well, a
lot of the people that I've worked with in my
deliverance ministry have defected out of some of these bloodlines,
and they have all the scars to prove the agendas
that sit in these bloodlines. And the reality is is
we began to explore, like, how far back does this
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iniquity go that's sitting in the bloodline? We kept going
back behind Adam. Not only that, we began to find
that some of the dots were connecting on what people
are questioning as alien races and non human groups and
the powers that were sitting behind the iniquity in the
Illuminati bloodlines. We began to connect dots on what like
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why does this person always get abducted by this specific group?
The Pleadians are always coming after this person or this
other person comes insistently has problems with the Anu Naki.
Why are they always being targeted by this specific group?
And we found that well, these groups were often entangled
with these individuals through bloodline iniquity, and the individual is
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actually carrying markers that these groups claim as their legal
rights to then you know, harassed that person's life or
try to recruit them to agendas that are evil. Well,
when we began to question, like, well, how old and
ancient are some of these groups? Again, we found ourselves
going back behind Adam, and what we realize is wow, No,
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the ancient nature of this universe is woven right into
what people are battling in present time. We're not fighting
against an enemy that emerged six thousand years ago and
just targeted humanity because they're mad at Jesus. We are
finding ourselves at the cross section of a lot of
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cosmic activity. In this age, there was a lot of
activity that led up to a massive cataclysm in the Earth,
after which God is putting atom in the garden as
a fixer, and Jesus Christ follows up on that first
atom as the last atom to finish everything the first
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atom failed at doing. And the redemption that Jesus is
authoring is beyond the scope of humankind's reconciliation to the Father.
He is reconciling the whole created order through his death, burial,
and resurrection. So we are now looking at a much
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larger picture because the deliverance and the need of people
that are under the oppression of darkness is forcing the conversation.
And then we get back to about twenty twenty three.
It was actually twenty twenty two when I first put
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together a prayer resource which we never made public, but
we did it at our advance that year, and I
call it freedom from Root Races of the Illuminati, where
we were using this revelation of all of this preordemic
activity of non human groups and entities that went into
an ancient rebellion against Yahweh to deliver people from the
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iniquity that sat in their bloodlines. And we had so
many deliverances at that advance that year that went way
beyond skin deep. And I mean I still use that
per resource at times in my private you know, coaching
with people, and all of our coaches by ministries, they
have this resource, and I mean it has led to
some of the most profound deliverance. And you know, that
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was really the you know, even still some of the
beginning the following year is when God pulled me into
this encounter. I've shared about this encounter podcasts, But in
this encounter, I was essentially fast tracking, and I talk
about the entire encounter in this book. But I was
pulled into a scroll in my dream, and in that
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scroll I was permitted to read sections of the cosmic
history pertaining to pre ademic events. It was it's because
it's all written it's actually recorded, and I was given
the privilege of being pulled into that scroll. I flew
through that scroll like it was a portal, and then
I landed in a realm with Holy Spirit where me
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and Holy Spirit had a long conversation about some things.
But this was my full active It was like in
the unlocking for me and really an unlocking for the
whole realm of our ministry at Bride Ministries. That God
was like, it is now time that knowledge is going
to increase on this subject because it's not just a
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debate on whether it's a younger Earth or an old Earth.
It's certainly not a debate whether it's a round Earth
or a flat Earth. Please, I don't don't go with
flat earth.
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I'm sorry. You know. You can make your case in
the comments section if you want to.
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But but what we are realizing is that it's not
a debate on theology anymore. God is putting a demand
on this conversation because there are things he wants to
use his body to resolve that requires and understanding of
the ancient nature of this universe and the ancient nature
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of this very planet. Because we are not the first
intelligent population to have a role on this planet either.
In fact, some of the scarring, some of the problems
that Earth has was perpetrated against this planet outside of
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the age of mankind, and we as mankind, inherited some
of the problems regarding the damage that was onto this planet.
It's extraordinary. In fact, one of the things that I've
learned again, I'm having a very surface level discussion in
this podcast about some of the stuff I explored this book.
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Some of the things that we are going to discover
is that the principalities and territorial spirits we need to
contend with over some areas of the Earth don't have
their origins within the frame of mankind's existence as human
beings on this Earth.
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Some of these.
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Territorial spirits are ancient entities with preademic origins, and until
we understand what we are up against and what we
are contending with, we're going to continue to fall short
at the as the Body of Christ to do what
God put us here to do. One of the things
that I am absolutely committed to communicating to the Body
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of Christ is that we are the body of reconciliation.
The same body that Jesus was born in, is the
same body that he died in. It's the body that
he took to the grave, and it's the body that
he resurrected from the dead. It's the body that ascended
to heaven, and it's the body that we are baptized into.
The Bible says there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
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There's one body of Christ in the earth. We create
all of these different systems and branches. So this person's Baptist,
this person's Lutheran, this person's Charismatic, and that person, you know,
they listen to dand of all whatever that means, like
you know, and we say, okay, we have all of
these different groups. But friends, that's not the biblical revelation.
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We may disagree on theology. There is one body of Christ,
there is one faith in one Lord. There is only
one name under heaven by which men must be saved.
According to the Bible, that's the name of Jesus. Yes, sure,
there's no other name. There's no other body. What that
means is that when God says in the Book of Colossians,
he is reconciling all things, whether in heaven or on earth,
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through the blood of the Cross. What that is suggesting
is that God is in the body of Jesus Christ,
reconciling all of the disorder in heaven and earth. That's
the whole ordered creation. And we are that body. We
are baptized into the death of Jesus so we can
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be raised up in the newness of life in him.
So one of the things that Awakened explores is not
only the reality that we are the body of reconciliation
that God is using to bring about a cosmic redemption.
It's also explaining why there is a cosmic interest in
the matters of mankind. At the end of the age, friends,
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there is an explosion. People all over the world are
coming out from behind closed doors to express their discontentment
with their targeting, with their harassment, with their abduction experiences,
with their programming. I mean, there are so many operations,
There are so many technologies people are being afflicted by
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that don't even have their origin on Earth. We see
deliverances where there is nanotechnology coming out of people particles.
This what black goo. I mean, It's like, where is
all of this stuff coming from? And the people that
have the firsthand knowledge are sitting in at certain points
in their lives, the laboratories and the craft on and
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off planet where this stuff is being engineered and worked
on by scientists that are both human and other and
they're saying, I know exactly where some of this technology
is coming from, and it's not fully human. In fact,
you have people that are reporting how they're part of,
you know, operations where trades are being made with entity
groups that are not human for technologies so that they
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can build out their new world order or global governance.
And you know what, this is the same kind of
stuff that was happening in the ancient world of Noah,
where people were getting technology from the watchers that fell
intok wives of human women. Only it's upscaled now a lot,
and in the book Awaken, what we are exploring is
and even larger framework of reference and relevance, because what
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we're understanding now is even what happened in the days
of Noah was predicated on ancient events that predated Adam's
placement in the garden. The truth is that as we've
gone deeper into this and the Lord has unveiled more,
there is so much information that is now coming from
not history books, but from the record encoded in our
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own human spirits and That's why this conversation hasn't been
able to be had before, because the Church hasn't understood body,
soul and spirit. We haven't understood what I've been talking
about for a decade now, that the human spirit sits
as one aspect of our design. We are, we are soul,
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and we are spirit, and the spirit is the part
of us created in Christ eons ago. Our spirits are
way older than our souls and even our and definitely
our physical bodies. And what we haven't understood and what
is fully explored, and this is the thing that you
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have to understand about why I wrote this book. I'm
saying a lot of things right here in this podcast
that may resonate deeply with some of you that are listening,
But for all of your friends and naysayers, it's going
to be bouncing off of this theology and this thought
and this presumption. And it's like, oh no, you're gonna
have to qualify that for me, Daniel, where's your word?
Where's all the scripture to back it up? See this
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is another nugget. So I wrote a whole book to
back it up. That's the thing. This book is systematic
theology that will lay the groundwork and foundation theologically for
the conversation God needs us to start having because God
is not only targeting this age for his redemptive agenda
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in Christ Jesus. The redemptive agenda in Christ Jesus is
from this age designed to be transacted forward and backward.
There is an entanglement of ages, friends, and in Christ Jesus,
and with the power of His blood, because of the
entanglement of ages, we are empowered now to minister forward
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and backwards in time, bringing resolution to cosmic conflicts in
the ancient past, so that the glorious outcomes God has
slated for the.
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Future are being established.
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I'm telling you the purpose that God has for us
is beyond anything that we have. I think most of
us at least have made room for until now. But
I'm gonna help because I'm gonna give you an opportunity
to consider a lot of theology, but a lot of
thoughts that is going to expand your perspective on how
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important the call and purpose and plan that God has
for your life really is. Because you know what the
beauty of the story is that it's not just about
something God wants to fix. He's included us in his plan,
we are part of the body of reconciliation. We have
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a role to play and friends. As one final thought,
you know, as we're just kind of doing a surface
discussion on some of the things that this book is
going to do really dive deeply into, we have to
understand many of us are journeying ungodly cycles in this
world that we don't understand. Like, you know, you have
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a person and it's like, every time I start a
business it fails for supernatural reasons that are unexplainable, and
I don't know why. You know, you have people that
go through cycles of rejection in their lives that are unexplainable,
Like because their friend that said the same exact thing,
the same exact way to the same exact person got
a very different response out of that person. But for
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some reason, these cycles of maybe rejection abandonment are plaguing
one individual and not the other way, saying why what
did I do to deserve some of these outcomes? I'm journeying.
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You know.
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We have people that have tried all the tricks. It's like, well,
I tried transforming my mind, I tried doing this a
particular approach to things that there was there. There are
things that are clinging to my life that just won't
let go. I did the deliverance prayers, and I'm still
journeying problems that don't make sense to me. Maybe God
just doesn't love me, maybe you know, And we come
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back to all of these questions that are you know,
just the devil's accusations, untrue but believable in that state
of brokenness and pain, and what we have learned is
that there are things people are journeying not because of
something that happened in their lived experience, not even because
of a generational curse they received from the iniquity of
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their parents or grandparents. We are finding that there are
traumas that sit in human spirits from pre ademic ages
and experiences that occurred in those contexts that are playing
out as an ungodly cycle in their lives today. And
believe it or not, when we get those memories from
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the human spirit and reconcile the trauma that sits in
the human spirit from its experiences in pre ademic ages
and pre ademic conflicts, the people are seeing actual transformation
and breakthrough in present times in their physical lives on
the earth. What this means is that it is more
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important than ever that we understand the entanglement of ages,
because even if you get to the point you're like, well,
maybe my human spirit did have this long pre existence
in Christ where you know, I don't know anything that
happened and for eons of time, you know whatever, and
then I was born on this earth. All of the
relevancy of whatever I'm living in happened here, you know.
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And we want to believe that, but it's not true.
There is relevancy, friends, to what our spirits endured long
before we were conceived, long before we were born. And
when we resolve those traumas, cycles break. And that's another
reason why you need this book, because this book includes
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specific prayer resource. I wrote three prayer books and those
books have set people free all over the world, and
the the you know, the prayer books Prayers to Shakevin
Nurse series continues to be referred to by more and
more ministers, more and more ministries, more and more people
that have just a frank, They've seen the fruit. All
of our coaches are trained with these prayer resources and
we are helping thousands of people all over the world
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with brid ministries coaching but I'm telling you like God
has not pushed pause as extreme prayers to shake heaven
and earth and said this is all you get to
know and all you get to work with. Friends, we
got more tools and those have been put in this
book because we have included in this book tools that
allow the reader to partner with the power and the
blood of Jesus Christ to minister to the traumas and
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injuries their spirits experience in preordemic agentes. So those things
can be resolved in breakthrough can be experienced today. That
is where theory meets application. Friends, this conversation matters. I'm
telling you this book is going to change a lot
of things. It's going to be I hope, a push
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forward on the relevancy of the ministry that's coming out
of the body of Christ. I believe that there are
some entanglements that people have been bound by that will
break finally after years of searching, because the missing key
has been found. The new book is called Awakened. Friends,
I hope you get it. God bless and God speak.
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Friends.
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We're finding you in creative ways to engage with you.
And what we're going to be doing today is answering
a couple questions live on the podcast from you on YouTube.
We're gonna hear from at Anna Bergay who left the
comment in our YouTube feed, and she said two part question,
Dan Devil, when knowing a person or stranger is bothered
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by a demon or a demons, how do you go
up to cast it out? Do you cast it out
immediately out of the blue and let the cards follows
they may or do you let that person, in their
own time come and ask for deliverance? Help friend. I
love the enthusiasm that you bring to the conversation of deliverance.
You know, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't
walk around and just look at people and start casting
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out demons in the grocery store or at the gas station.
That could lead to very awkward encounters. And the reality is,
when doing deliverance, you want some degree of agreement from
the person receiving that delivery. If we don't have agreement,
then what you're essentially saying is my will for your
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future is going to outperform your.
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Will for your own future.
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You know a lot of people have demons they want
Some people may have demons of mammon, but they want
mammont because that's how they get money in ungodly ways.
They may have a demon of perversion, but they want
that perversion because that's a lifestyle they have come into
full agreement with, at least in the present season, and
they have no conviction of Jesus.
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You have to also keep.
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In mind that if we're gonna kick out a demon,
you're gonna want something to fill that, not just an
empty hole. If you go in and you just kick
something out because and maybe it does leave because you
said something, but that person's like, I don't want Jesus,
I don't want Holy Spirit.
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You know what. That space is gonna just remain.
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Until whatever that spirit is or something else worse comes
back to that person.
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I would encourage.
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People with the word of God and the truth of
who Jesus is for them and let them start with
a decision do I want Jesus or not? And I'm
gonna help them decide they want Jesus because I'm gonna
tell them Jesus is the best thing that ever happened
to me. Let me tell you about how he transformed
my life. And when there's a desire in them for that,
and then they find while there's something standing in the
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way blocking this, then I will come back behind that
and say, let me help your brother.
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Jesus is a deliverer.
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Another question comes from our friend Leona are A Watkins.
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Two seven five six, who said, I would.
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Like to know why Lucifer and Satan are claimed to
be the one fallen angel cast out from heaven. Friend,
that's such a good question. It's a deep question, and
I am not going to say everything I could, but
I'm going to say a few things. I think that
the basis of this question is best answered by understanding
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what a cherubim is. In the Book of Revelation, chapter twelve,
we find that Satan, the dragon of Old also called
the Devil, battle with Michael and his angels and lost,
and he was thrown out of heaven. Jesus said in
Luke ten eighteen, I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning.
In Ezekiel twenty eight it suggests that a fallen cherub
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was turned into ashes upon the earth after he rebelled,
and sin was found in him because of his trading.
And in Isaiah fourteen we find that this bad guy
is being referred to as Lucifer. He makes five I
will statements because he wants to be God and he
comes under judgment. That word Lucifer comes from the Hebrew
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word Hellal. Lucifer is actually Latin, and so we derive
the name Lucifer from the Latin transliteration or translation of Hellel,
and we get Satan from the New Testament title of
this enemy of God. He's also referred to by that
title in the Book of Job. And the reality is
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it is confusing as to why you have these two titles.
I say, this cherub actually has a secret name, and
I talk about this in my newest book, Awakened as well.
He has a secret name, and it's neither of those,
but both of those Lucifer or Hellel or Satan. They're
all titles. And when I have talked to survivors that
have had encounters with Lucifer and Satan, they have in
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fact recorded different experiences whether it is with Lucifer or Satan,
which to me early on produced a lot of confusion.
But back to my original answer, a cherub is a
four faced entity. And so if you look at a cherub,
whether it's Ezekiel one, Ezekiel ten. We also see them
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described in the book of revelation called living creatures. They
will have different faces, the face of a man, the
face of an eagle, the face of an ox et cetera.
The different faces, if you were to look at them
standing in front of that being, would produce a different encounter.
My assumption is that the Lucifer encounter and the Satan
encounter being different is tied to that nature of being
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