July 30, 2025 • 35 mins
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Forestling sound offline two six seven six four two eleven
sixty and I will get to those comments, questions, or
concerns in a future episode. It is Dynamite Night and
there is a lot going on. We're going to get
into Dynamite as we go through the episode so far
tonight already a lot of action going on. The Outrunners
open with a match against well they call calling them
two Jobbers, also known as the Young Bucks, and of
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course the Young Bucks pick up the win in the
aw Tech Team Title Tournament first round action and then
the big news of the night so far, aw World
Championship match Hangman Adam Page taking on John Moxley, sees
Hangman Page retain his championship. A lot of stuff still
to come. Tony Storm, Alex Windsor versus Athena and Billy Starks.
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We still have Rick Achet versus Mark Brisco. We still
have mjf appearing live. Christian Cage was there earlier having
conversation about his history with Adam Copeland. He ended up
getting attacked in the back. It's going to be an
action pack knight top to bottom for aw Dynamite, and
as we go through the show, if anything exciting happens,
we'll try to update you on that as we progress
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through the news for the day. Though, this episode will
cover the day's news and rumors, and we will get
into our Summer Slam predictions for this weekend's pay per
view SummerSlam two Night Event twenty twenty five, First time
are going two nights, the biggest party of the summer.
Before we get to that, though, let's cover all the
rest of the conversation. In the world of professional wrestling,
The g One Climax, in my opinion, the greatest tournament
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in all of professional wrestling, taking place right now. Nine
eight is in the books, and we covered a little
bit of this the last episode. The rankings are so
close right now there are literally five wrestlers with the
same points leading the pack eight points so far. And
for those who have never watched a g one wins
earn you points, Draws earn you points, losses earn you nothing,
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and the two highest point getters from Block A and
Block B in a round robin style tournament, we'll end
up facing off in the finals to get a shot
at the world heavyweight champion later on. This year, Block
A has uh let's see what have we got here?
Three six, nine to ten people per side, So you
got twenty competitors going at it in these round robin blocks,
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and right now it's it's a who's who because there
are there are five wrestlers with eight points already eight nights.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
In keeping in mind that each.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Block only competes every other show, so one night Block
A will compete and all the Block two competitors will
have like tag team matches and miscellaneous stuff. The next night,
Block two will go and Block A will have tag
team matches and whatnot. It's a really cool way to
run a pay per view across several evenings, and it
does take a toll on the wrestlers, kind of not
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as much as it did back in the day when
they were working through and fifty days a year, but
definitely harder than their typical schedule. And it's like a
who's who of the superstars of New Japan Pro Wrestling
out right now. You know, Great Ocon Ren Narita, Yoshi Hashi,
Evil Sonata, El Phantasm with Shina Takagi, Dave Finley, Shoto Yumino.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean, they're all in there.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Hiroshi Tanahashi his last time competing as it's his retirement year.
And like I said, we have five people tied at
the top of eight points. After that you have another
six people with six points. This is anybody's game, minor
exception of one in BLOCKB. Gabe Kid we mentioned in
a previous episode, is out of the tournament due to
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what they believed was a torn MCL. It turns out
that it is a hyper extension, but out of a
concern and caution, they did not want him to participate
in the tournament, instead pulling him from the tournament. The
theory is that you know, he would have had to
make it through the semi finals and get to the
final to really have a purpose to take a chance
on hurting himself even worse.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So better to pull him out now and put him
in later and after.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The tournament's over, give him something else to work with
and let somebody else have that opportunity to showcase now.
The only thing kind of sucks is all of his
opponents automatically get a victory against him as a forfeit
in the tournament in the round robin, which kind of
in a weird way benefits the B block over the
A block because the A Block's got to wrestle nine
matches once against each one of the other people in
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your block, whereas the other side only has to wrestle eight.
But I mean, look, it's wrestling, you know what I mean,
And you know we can make these things work. We
always do. We'll find a way closely aligned with New
Japan par wrestling, and let's be honest. In the tournament,
one of the big stars of the tournament is Kenoski Takeshka,
who is an AW star and AEW in the news
this week to Tony Kahan having a conversation about what
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his plans are in the future. He was on the
Wressell Friends podcast related to AW Dark, remembering when they
launched the company back twenty nineteen and things of that nature.
Dark was a great opportunity to showcase new talent, up
and coming talent, big debuts, and then eventually along the way,
Collision came into the equation. When Warner Brothers Discovery negotiated
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the latest contract, it was one of those things where
they didn't feel they needed AEW Dark, but he did
mention he would love to bring back Dark. He said,
I would love to do that. I think I has to.
The thing is, and he's very clear about this. It
has to make sense with our media partners. It says,
when we launched aw Collision, which is such an import
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part of waw TV every week, we really had this
great opportunity to go into a new media rights package
and it's the life blood of AW. So it sounds
like he would love to bring Dark back, probably in
short order, but has to do what's in the best
interest of their broadcasting partner. Makes sense though, if you
were Warner Brothers Discovery getting the kind of ratings that
they claim to be getting on their streaming platform, you
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would think every program that is AW branded do you
want to put together Even if it was just on
the streaming platform, that would be a great idea. So
I see no reason not to do it. But again,
we'll have to wait and see how things play out.
Another AW tidbit Hook, who has been out for quite
a while due to injury. It turns out he had
a concussion that has kept him out of action for
a significant period of time. He did appear briefly at
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AW Double or Nothing twenty twenty five after being out
for several weeks in the Anarchy. In the Arena match,
he attacked Claudiotastic Castingnoli, and it looked like there may
have been something about to go down with him and
Samoa Joe, which is I considering their you know, buddies, same.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Faction and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But Fightful Select has a report out there that there
is no date for Hook's return.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
He is still not medically cleared.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The reason for the Double or Nothing appearance was to
kind of plant the seeds for storylines coming in the future.
So it's very cool that they're kind of future booking
and think of these things through really trying to figure
out what they want to do long term. With Hook,
he obviously has had the opportunity to really participate in
some big feuds already in his young career. He is
potentially one of the pillars going forward of their company.
(09:32):
A lot of conversation about how many talents have come
in and out and whatnot from WWE to AW and
then back again. Hook is somebody who has no prior
WWE affiliation, So if Tony Kahm wants to strap a
rocket to him and take it off, take off, you
know they can do that. It's a homegrown talent, as
opposed to some of the other guys who've come in
from it WWE from time to time, who may not
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always show the same level of loyalty that somebody. You
would think that the Hook would because this is the
company that gave him his first opportunity, his first big break,
So definitely something to keep an eye on. I'm very
interested to see how they would potentially book a feud
between Hook and Samoa Joe, but that's hopefully a long
way down the road and we'll have to see how
(10:16):
things go. Drew McIntyre in the New Switching Gears a
little bit SummerSlam, we talked to the previous episode, he
is kind of stuck in the United Kingdom right now,
did not bring his US passport and he's being held
up and not able to get back. Some people thought
this was storyline. Various media outlets are insisting that this
is legitimate, that he's not been able to get home yet.
(10:37):
Someone did say there is a quote that ww has
quote unquote wheels in motion for alternative plans. There's a
report from Wressell Votes that they said I spoke with
a source who tells me wheels or emotion for alternative
plans in the event, Drew McIntire's unable to get back
to smack Down this Friday in New Jersey. What that
means for his tag team match against Jelly Rowland Randy
(10:58):
Orton at SummerSlam is yet to be I what a
strange situation you would think there would have to be
an easy I mean, let's be honest, it's been days.
You could have gone to his house and put his
American visa in a FedEx envelope and gotten it to
him by now, you know what I'm saying, Like, this
is kind of ludicrous that we're waiting this long to
find out what they're gonna do. With this match, which
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is a high profile match with a major celebrity booked
for the show, you really need to know what you're
doing going forward on the heels of all the festivities
leading into SummerSlam. The other conversation piece is Goodther talking
about and there's a quote maybe there's a chance that
he gets the opportunity to face John Cena this year.
(11:42):
On Radio Times, he claimed that he hopes to face
John Cena in the ring before his retirement. He said, quote,
it's great for him that he is able to do
that and say this is the way I want to
finish it, in the way I want to go out.
That's a great way to do it. If somebody deserves it,
then it's him. It's good to have him back around.
I have not interacted with him or seen him much
(12:02):
because he's on SmackDown mostly, but who knows. There's still
a long time left, so maybe there's a chance to
get in there with him before he hangs it up.
He's a guy that everybody knows. It's like what Hogan
was in the nineties. If you know wrestling, you know
John Cena. It also shows the love and passion he
has for the business. He doesn't need to do it.
He's financially got bigger fish to fry with his movies,
and he's a made man already, so there's no pressure
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for him to do all of that. But he decided
to invest a whole year into this. It's a very
classy way for someone like him to go out and
have his one year of giving back and do it
one more time. I would love to see it. I
really think this is the kind of match that much
like the Goldberg match, except that John seen has always
been much more athletic than Goldberg. I think Gunther could
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get something really special out of John Cena. We've mentioned
this in a previous episode a few weeks back. Curious
to see where that goes from there. I would not
be surprised if that ended up being the last match
in John Cena's tirement tour. I really think that that
might be exactly what WWE needs to do to really
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pop the crowd. And look, if you think about it,
if Sina puts him over on his way out the door,
you've made Goodther tenfold. You really have the biggest name
in the business for the last decade and a half,
and he's the one who puts him away. I think
that would be absolutely fantastic. I think it would be
great for business, and I would really really be interested
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in seeing that. But again, we'll have to wait and see.
There's a lot going on going, you know, heading into
this weekend, and I think once we get through this
weekend and the two night SummerSlam, we may have a
better idea better sense of where things are going, especially
with people like Carrion Cross and Scarlett whose contracts have
been highly debated. He was out today Fightful Select, putting
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out a quote from Carrie and Cross saying I don't
think I should talk about any of it right now,
but I'm hoping that when it's time, the time is right,
everyone will know what's going on, including us. Not sure
what that means. It could mean that he already has
a contract and he's playing to the crowd and doing
what he does with social media. It could mean that
he really doesn't have a new contract yet and here
he is in a premium match at SummerSlam, kind of
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following the modus OPERENDI of WWE. Here's a guy whose
contract is come and do. Let's give him a push
to encourage him to sign again. And then we'll just
forget all about him. I hope that doesn't happen. I
think the fans love him right now, so we'll have
to wait and see how things play out.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But you just never know.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I've been dodging some of this conversational stuff all week
because you know how emotional last week was for some
of us with the loss of Hulk Hogan. But there
are some things we have to get to good, bad,
ugly in between all points. Let's start with this current
WWE superstars slamming fans who honor Hulk Hogan, telling him
to do their research, and posting the rant video where
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Hogan was making some of the disparaging remarks that he
had made previously that are so notorious. At this point,
the WWE talent is Jamar Hampton. He has been on LFG,
He's been on Evolve. This young man he's looking to
make a name for himself in the business. And I
can respect the fact that he is not a fan
(15:17):
of the things that have been said. All right, I
get that, I do. My concern here is is I
have watched all episodes of FG, and I think the
kid has a lot of opportunity, a lot of promise
certainly needs to work on some of his entring work,
but I think he's doing a great job. My concern
is is that with him coming out being so strong
about this, that he could be gaining some heat in
(15:43):
the back because obviously this is something that WWE did
not put into his social media feed. It's not something
they were looking to do. If anything, they've been They've
done three tributes to the guy, you know what I mean. Like,
it's not one of these things where they were like, Okay,
we're gonna put tribute to it and that we want
you to go out in trash talk. No, that's not
the case. This guy did this on his own social media.
He included the YouTube link to the audio and captured
(16:04):
the post with what the captain says, is this really
who he should be celebrating? Do your research and it's
the hul Cogan racist audio nine twenty sixteen League in transcript.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's deep stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And like I said, I've said this before in the
previous two episodes, you can feel any way you want
to feel about this. I'm not here to judge anyone,
who am I but you have to wonder and he's
and this kid is not the only one. The ex
ESPN analysts are coming out, and some of them, Bamani
Jones says, hulkovi and never Hogan never had a legacy. Now,
I'm not going to go that far. I don't think
this guy has a clue what he's talking about. I
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don't know him. Okay, Look, it's one thing to say
he tarnished his legacy because of this, these horrible things
that have come out of his mouth. And I would
have no problem with that. He has the right time
with Bomani Jones is his YouTube show. He has a
quote in here, why do people love Hulkgan so much?
And I have spent the last ninety six hours and
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change trying to up with an answer to that question.
I don't have it. Well, we all had, and he
says we all And everything I read stipulated that he
was a giant, enormous pop culture figure and he was
the most famous of all the wrestlers. I didn't see
anything I thought gave a real explanation as to why
it was that this guy was that popular and that famous, right,
(17:19):
Because the thing is, you got to win over your
block before you can win over your region, before you
can win over your country before you can win over
your world.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
In this case, I'm using the block as being a
wrestling like he had to win over wrestling to move
into this bigger world of pop culture fate. Right, how
exactly he won over wrestling, I mean the wrestling fans,
not the mechanicis of wrestling business, right, just winning over
and becoming such a popular wrestling fan. Vince can't make
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you like who you like or not like who you
want to like. Like, It doesn't work that way, right.
Those crowds, they who love the Hulkster were real. We
all acknowledged that he was a bad wrestler, okay, right,
we all generally stipulate that he was a bad wrestler,
and the majority of the wrestling really popular wrestlers are
good wrestlers. He wasn't exactly the coolest wrestler. I mean,
he ain't no Rick Flair, Right, We also wind up
(18:07):
with that part He's not really that guy and low key.
His character was a little bit corny, right, the training
prayers and vitamins. Even though we found out the vitamins
you couldn't buy them in stores, you know what I'm like,
He's out there telling you to take vitamins to get
big as me. Meanwhile, he put his pants down, putting
his booty out. Right, we know things about Rick Flair
that aren't so great. When Rick Flair dies, we're not
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going to break out break them out like that. It
doesn't land the same. Like as much as people like
me love Rick Flair, there's something different about Hulkogan just
landed completely different with hul Kogan. Again, it's hard to
have a legacy. But what we know, what we know
you for is play fighting. There's no substance there. Okay, Like,
what is the Rocks legacy? Does the Rock have a legacy?
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He's a very entertaining playfighter, Like that's that is not
that's not mean what you have a legacy? Right? So
this guy sounds like he's implying that there's no legacy
there because it's play fighting, which he goes on with
his fandom about Rick Flair. Ric Flair is a play
fighter too, and look, I'm so tired. Ready here comes
me getting fired up, Reddy. I need to try to
keep myself in check. But he goes into this whole
(19:10):
ti rade. He throws in about him being a bad wrestler.
Let's be honest, right, let's go down some of Now,
I'm not talking about your your mount rushmore of like
technical megastars like Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, Ricky Stembo, that
kind of stuff, big big names. Andre the Giant. Was
he fantastic catches catch can wrestler? Absolutely not the big show,
Absolutely not triple h super technical, But he wasn't the
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biggest star Hulk Cogan you ever watch? Did this guy
ever watch matches that he had in New Japan Pro
Wrestling when he's doing drop toe holds and wristlocks into
you know, kickups and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, he doesn't have a clue.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I question how old this guy is because, let
me be honest with you, unless you lived through nineteen
eighty four, eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight,
eighty nine, ninety ninety one, ninety two, you don't have
a right to be speaking about this like you know anything,
because it's not about facts and figures. It's not about
dates in a yearbook in an almanac. It's about the
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emotion you felt when it happened. He clearly wasn't a
fan when this happened. I don't even know who this
guy is and I don't really care this channel. I
go all out of my way to try not to
be controversial. Hulk Hogan is controversial. Hulk Hogan said some disgusting,
irreprehensible things about people that he never should have said.
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I will never justify that. Does it tarnish his legacy? Absolutely?
Does he still have a legacy? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Does The Rock, like he mentioned The Rock, Does the
Rock have a legacy?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Absolutely? Rick Flair? Absolutely, they all. Do you know what
the legacy is? They entertain millions and millions of fans
around the world in a way that transcended their niche
and became mainstream. When you look around the world, you
don't see people showing up to WWE shows wearing the
(20:58):
same number of, Saynymar jerseys as you see people showing
up to soccer events wearing nWo or Hulk Hogan or.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Any other kind.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You don't see Lionel Mezi going to hype up the
wrestlers backstage at a wrestling show, but Rick Flair shows
up almost every NFL team and hypes them up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Hulk Hogan was doing that too.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The guy clearly has a jaded.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Opinion and he's entitled to it because what he said
on that recording we mentioned earlier is heinous and other
things he's done, the lying, the embellishing. I get all
of that, but that is not that has nothing to
do with the fact that this is a guy that
the only reason this guy can even speak about Rick
Flair right now is because of Hulk Hogan. The only
reason this guy has a conversation about the Rock is
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because of Hulkgan. Because let's be honest, and I said
this in a previous episode. The NWA, Rick Flair, all
those guys, they were not killing it back in the day.
They were struggling. Were they making money for a short while? Yes,
in nineteen eighty seven they started losing money, which is
why they were sold.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
To Ted Turner.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
When he purchased the NWA, I apologize he didn't by
the NBA. He purchased the intellectual property and created World
Championship Wrestling. Anyways, I could go on about this forever.
Let's move on because it's driving me crazy. Speaking of
Rick Flair, Rick Flair coming on Arie Hawani's show talking
about a variety of topics, including why at WrestleMania eight
(22:21):
there was no match between he and Hulk Hogan. His
quote here says, I don't know the answer to that.
I'll tell you what I think. I don't think Hulk
wanted to leave on a losing note, which I totally
understand because who I am after what he's done for
the company. And number two, I don't think maybe they
thought it would draw like it should. I have no idea.
The one thing that I know for sure is that
I never ever got over in New York. Rick Flair
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referencing the fact that no matter how big his star
power was in NWAWCW or pick whatever you want to
refer to it, he just never reached that same level
of success when he went to WWE nineteen ninety ninety
one ish timeframe ninety one. And that's true. I get it,
I understand it. But there have been many people who
theorized that they did these test runs in house shows
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and local markets, did a whole loop, and they just
weren't feeling the reactions they were getting, which caused Vince
to change course and go a different direction. But that's
that match at WrestleMania. We all fought and all we
dreamt about having, and it just never came to fruition
on the ongoing topic of hulkogin we actually have to
shift gears a little bit into his daughter Brooke. A
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lot of things about Brook this week. One it came
out that she had been removed from his will, was
not interested in any of his money, which is interesting.
She didn't want to get in the middle of any drama.
Then it came out that she put a beautiful eulogy
out to her father, and one of the quotes in
her says, his hugs were my home. Very supportive of
her father, understanding that there was a lot of personal
(23:46):
stuff she's not going to go into, but that they
had been working through the last couple of years, basically
focused on her concerns about other people taking advantage of
him in business dealings in other situations, and that was
something that was of concern to her. But it was
a beautiful eulogy. And then following it up that unfortunately
it sounds like wwe never invited her to the tribute shows,
(24:07):
which I have no idea how that could possibly be
the case. Absolutely terrible. She put it on her Instagram
traced for those of you giving me crap for not
attending Dad's tributes WW did not extend an invite, which
that just blows my mind. And she's not the only one,
shockingly to me. Linda Hogan, the former wife, the former
spouse of Hulk Hogan, talks about him very positively. She
(24:30):
says she never moved on from Halkogan. Several quotes she
was on Instagram, she put up, I had no idea
he passed away this soon. We all thought he would
make a comeback, big surprise. We're all devastated. Hit me
so hard, she said later. I loved Hulkster more than
he loved me. It hurt when he cheated, but he
was so famous. I sort of understood, but it was crushing.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I never got over him or started a real relationship
with anyone. I missed him, she said. I've been weeping
all day. The finality is just shocking. We spent every
minute to get for so many years. I've known him
since I was twenty, he was twenty eight years old,
I was twenty two. I still love him, even though
I never spoke or saw him. Nick did, and Nick
would tell me things and vice versa, just the news
(25:09):
about life. I still felt although Brooke and we were
still a family it's so hard to know he's just gone.
I tried to stay strong for Nick, but I'm melting down.
It's very sad. I love you, Holkster. You were my man,
the only man for me. Rip what a It's shocking
when they have such an ugly divorce and all the
stuff they went through to hear that, but it's also
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beautiful in a way. It means everything they had. I
feel like he was real, at least for her. I
actually suspect it was for him as well, but definitely
seems like it was for now. I'm not gonna crap
on the fact that she says she never moved on
to anybody else, and there was pictures and video of
her with another dude, but obviously not at the level
that she had with hull Cogan. So, you know, prayers
out to her. She's obviously going through morning same thing
(25:51):
with Brooke, Nick, all of the Hogan family, and oddly enough,
straight Vince McMahon in the news also because he had
a serious car act accident. Apparently same day as the
hul Cogan news broke, he was he was involved in
a crash in Connecticut. TMZ Sports reported that you know
he was driving his twenty twenty four Bentley northbound on
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Route fifteen in Westport and he rear ended the twenty
twenty three BMW four thirty and then struck a wooden
beam guardrail in the median. The person who he hit
has come out and given a really interesting statement. Almost
sounded like it was something put together for reality television.
But whatever it is, what it is, I'm not here
to trash anybody. Just seemed very strange. It deployed all
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the airbags. Fortunately nobody was like seriously injured. But he
is being cited for this so and apparently has a
history of being a horrible driver, so hey, you know,
who knows. But odd that it was the same day
as Hogan's situation. Very very strange, keeping with the legality
news because how how can you segue to anything other
(26:56):
than that. Former WWE superstar Duke the Dumpster Drosie has
his court appearance next month in his legal battles. For
those who don't know, he has been accused of attempted
a aggravated sexual exploitation of a miner. He apparently was
trying to purchase material that was very aggressive and very
(27:17):
inappropriate with minors in April twenty twenty four and apparently
was not successful in acquiring that material, thank god, but
the intent was there and he was still found to
be have enough evidence there to bring charges against him.
How horrible. You know. I'm not in full transparency. I'm
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not saying for him. For anybody who is affected by this,
to have someone in that situation be open to that
stuff just blows my mind. I don't understand why people
do what they do. It's absolutely disgusting. Let's get off
all this deep stuff. Let's get into some more fun stuff. Okay,
last part of the show tonight is probably the most
important part of the show. It is a prediction time
WWE SummerSlam twenty twenty five, two nights coming up in
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a couple of days. Let's go down Night one. Tiffany
Stratton versus Jade Cargill. No surprises for me here, I'm
going Jade Cargill the whole way. Wouldn't it be interesting
for her to win this championship, for Ria to win
the other one, for them to face off at Crown
Jewel shortly or I think I actually think it's in
Perth where they go for the Crown Jewel Championship or
whatever it is. I actually think Jade will win here,
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though there is a case to be made for Stratton
to retain for other reasons if Bianca bell Air ends
up getting involved in some way and go and heal,
but I'm gonna save that for further down the pike.
I'm going with Jade Cargill. Let's assume Drew McIntyre makes
it back. Randy Orton and Jelly Roll versus Drew McIntyre
and Logan Paul. This celebrity never loses. I'm going with
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Randy Orton and Jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's just the way it is. And somebody people say, oh, yeah,
Logan Paul's a celebrity too. Yeah he is, but he's
more of a wrestler nowadays. He really is. I get it.
He's got a channel in endorsements and all that kind
of stuff, but he really he was made for the
wrestling business. Jelly rolls the guest celebrity always win. So
I'm going with Jelly Roll. We have Gunther versus see
him punk the theorized main event for Night one. This
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is a tough one for me, a really tough one.
I think if Gunther keeps the Championship. He can go
on to defend that against John Cena if John Cena
is no longer champion. I think if John sen is
gonna stay champion and see him Punk wins this match,
it opens the opportunity for either a seth Rollins, cash
in or other feuds going down the pike with with
you know, people like Jay Usso or bron Breaker or whatever.
(29:27):
And this is hard, It's really hard. I think for me,
what I think would make the most sense would be
for I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say Gunther retains
the championship over se him Punk. Even though Punk just
lost to Sena for the w W Championship. I hate
to see him lose twice in a row in one of
those types of matches. I don't know where we go
with him after that, but Gunther's just over like Rovers,
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so I'm going with Gunther the judgment day Rock Colrodriguez,
Rox San Perez defending against Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss.
I just think it's time Aaron Bliss just come together.
They make a lot of sense. They seem to be
very happy in that tag team and r K bro
kind of feel and I my prediction is Charlotte Flair
and Alexa Bliss take the Tag team Championship.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Sammy's Ain Carryon Cross covered that earlier.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I think if Sammy's Ain wins, which I think he will,
and that's my prediction, it's because Carrying Cross may be leaving.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
If Cross pulls off a win.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think he's got a contract already in hand. Just
isn't telling anybody. That's just my opinion. But if Cross loses,
he's probably leaving. If Zayne wins, but if Cross wins,
he's definitely got a new contract. That's just my opinion.
Roman reigns j Uso versus bron Breaker and Bronson Reid. Wow,
you know there's not there's only there are only one
way I see this going down. Rains has not had
(30:42):
a match since Mania. He lost at Mania. Can't lose
two in a row. Rains and Jay win by pinning
Bronson Reid because you're not gonna do anything to harm
the character of bron Breaker.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You're just not.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That guy is gonna have the rocket ship like they
were talking about on Unreal the other day with Jay Usso,
so I think that's how that goes down. Night two
let's go through that. The tag team Ladder match. I'm
not gonna list all the names. You know who they are.
I'm sticking with the Wyat six to retain. I just
they just got the belts. He can't take them off
of them already or else. That title really bounced around
like a ping pong ball, and I ate that idea.
(31:13):
Dominic Mysterio AJ Styles Intercontinental Championship Match, I am pulling.
Oh gosh, this is a tough one for me. If
I see, we haven't had the thin Baller match yet.
We haven't, and so I feel like we have to
have that for the title. But then again, Mysterio is
going to challenge for the Mega Championship and they are
trying to get that brand over. He could lose the
AJ here and then win the Mega Championship and he
(31:34):
still has gold for the Judgment day.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Something that can bring ballor to triple A.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh man, I'm going with Dominic Mysterio to retain. I
can't believe I just said that. Solo Sakoa Jacob Fatu
Steel Cage Match, United States Championship. I am Jacob Fatu
all the way, even if we see a returning Tomatanga
maybe we see a debuting Zilla Fatu or somebody else
in the family, a journey Fatu or something. But I
really think this is where you could get it to
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Jacob Fatu to get it back. That's probably why they
took it off him in the first place, even though
I think Soldo Takoa is doing the best work he's
ever done. Right now, Becky Lynch lyra Vakaria for the
Women's International Championship Notice qualification, no count out, last chance match.
I think this is where we see Bailey come to
the aid of Becky Lynch, turn heel and help Becky
(32:21):
retain the Women's Championship. My my, my prediction is Becky
retains because of Bailey. The triple threat Naomi Ria Eo
EO has always beat Rio Rihea has never bet Neo.
We're not gonna have Ria beat Eo here. But we
also can't take that belt off of Naomi. This is
her big run. She wants to start a family. Naomi
is gonna retain Ria Ripley is gonna hit a riptide
(32:43):
on Eo. I think this is a popular opinion. Many
people have Ria's gonna hit the riptide on Eo. Neo's
gonna throw her out of the ring and steal the pin.
That's what's gonna happen. We're gonna see Ria do something
later in the year. But this sets up Naomi as
one champion, Jade as the other, and we can have
that match do we thought was gonna happen when Naomi
was gonna cash in this night. We can have that
now for the Crown Jewel Championship. I think that's a
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great idea and the main event night too, John Cena
Cody Rhoads for the WWE Championship. I'm sorry, I don't
know where to go with this. This is tough. I
don't want to see the double turn yet. I want
to see Cody stay face. Does the rock show up?
Oh my gosh, I'm going with Cody Rhoads wins the
WWE Championship, so that John Cena is freed up to
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work with Gunther, who I predicted earlier to retain his championship.
Cody Roads can go on to have that feud with
Randy Orton. They tease that after their match earlier this year,
Sena has other things he can do and this heel
turn just hasn't worked. This way, you can get Seena
back to being the baby face that the fans want
him to be and we can just move on and
close out his career in a much more positive way.
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sixty and I will get to those comments, questions, or
concerns in a future episode. It is Dynamite Night and
there is a lot going on. We're going to get
into Dynamite as we go through the episode so far
tonight already a lot of action going on. The Outrunners
open with a match against well they call calling them
two Jobbers, also known as the Young Bucks, and of
(03:08):
course the Young Bucks pick up the win in the
aw Tech Team Title Tournament first round action and then
the big news of the night so far, aw World
Championship match Hangman Adam Page taking on John Moxley, sees
Hangman Page retain his championship. A lot of stuff still
to come. Tony Storm, Alex Windsor versus Athena and Billy Starks.
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We still have Rick Achet versus Mark Brisco. We still
have mjf appearing live. Christian Cage was there earlier having
conversation about his history with Adam Copeland. He ended up
getting attacked in the back. It's going to be an
action pack knight top to bottom for aw Dynamite, and
as we go through the show, if anything exciting happens,
we'll try to update you on that as we progress
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through the news for the day. Though, this episode will
cover the day's news and rumors, and we will get
into our Summer Slam predictions for this weekend's pay per
view SummerSlam two Night Event twenty twenty five, First time
are going two nights, the biggest party of the summer.
Before we get to that, though, let's cover all the
rest of the conversation. In the world of professional wrestling,
The g One Climax, in my opinion, the greatest tournament
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in all of professional wrestling, taking place right now. Nine
eight is in the books, and we covered a little
bit of this the last episode. The rankings are so
close right now there are literally five wrestlers with the
same points leading the pack eight points so far. And
for those who have never watched a g one wins
earn you points, Draws earn you points, losses earn you nothing,
(04:36):
and the two highest point getters from Block A and
Block B in a round robin style tournament, we'll end
up facing off in the finals to get a shot
at the world heavyweight champion later on. This year, Block
A has uh let's see what have we got here?
Three six, nine to ten people per side, So you
got twenty competitors going at it in these round robin blocks,
(04:57):
and right now it's it's a who's who because there
are there are five wrestlers with eight points already eight nights.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
In keeping in mind that each.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Block only competes every other show, so one night Block
A will compete and all the Block two competitors will
have like tag team matches and miscellaneous stuff. The next night,
Block two will go and Block A will have tag
team matches and whatnot. It's a really cool way to
run a pay per view across several evenings, and it
does take a toll on the wrestlers, kind of not
(05:24):
as much as it did back in the day when
they were working through and fifty days a year, but
definitely harder than their typical schedule. And it's like a
who's who of the superstars of New Japan Pro Wrestling
out right now. You know, Great Ocon Ren Narita, Yoshi Hashi,
Evil Sonata, El Phantasm with Shina Takagi, Dave Finley, Shoto Yumino.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean, they're all in there.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Hiroshi Tanahashi his last time competing as it's his retirement year.
And like I said, we have five people tied at
the top of eight points. After that you have another
six people with six points. This is anybody's game, minor
exception of one in BLOCKB. Gabe Kid we mentioned in
a previous episode, is out of the tournament due to
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what they believed was a torn MCL. It turns out
that it is a hyper extension, but out of a
concern and caution, they did not want him to participate
in the tournament, instead pulling him from the tournament. The
theory is that you know, he would have had to
make it through the semi finals and get to the
final to really have a purpose to take a chance
on hurting himself even worse.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So better to pull him out now and put him
in later and after.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The tournament's over, give him something else to work with
and let somebody else have that opportunity to showcase now.
The only thing kind of sucks is all of his
opponents automatically get a victory against him as a forfeit
in the tournament in the round robin, which kind of
in a weird way benefits the B block over the
A block because the A Block's got to wrestle nine
matches once against each one of the other people in
(06:54):
your block, whereas the other side only has to wrestle eight.
But I mean, look, it's wrestling, you know what I mean,
And you know we can make these things work. We
always do. We'll find a way closely aligned with New
Japan par wrestling, and let's be honest. In the tournament,
one of the big stars of the tournament is Kenoski Takeshka,
who is an AW star and AEW in the news
this week to Tony Kahan having a conversation about what
(07:18):
his plans are in the future. He was on the
Wressell Friends podcast related to AW Dark, remembering when they
launched the company back twenty nineteen and things of that nature.
Dark was a great opportunity to showcase new talent, up
and coming talent, big debuts, and then eventually along the way,
Collision came into the equation. When Warner Brothers Discovery negotiated
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the latest contract, it was one of those things where
they didn't feel they needed AEW Dark, but he did
mention he would love to bring back Dark. He said,
I would love to do that. I think I has to.
The thing is, and he's very clear about this. It
has to make sense with our media partners. It says,
when we launched aw Collision, which is such an import
(08:00):
part of waw TV every week, we really had this
great opportunity to go into a new media rights package
and it's the life blood of AW. So it sounds
like he would love to bring Dark back, probably in
short order, but has to do what's in the best
interest of their broadcasting partner. Makes sense though, if you
were Warner Brothers Discovery getting the kind of ratings that
they claim to be getting on their streaming platform, you
(08:22):
would think every program that is AW branded do you
want to put together Even if it was just on
the streaming platform, that would be a great idea. So
I see no reason not to do it. But again,
we'll have to wait and see how things play out.
Another AW tidbit Hook, who has been out for quite
a while due to injury. It turns out he had
a concussion that has kept him out of action for
a significant period of time. He did appear briefly at
(08:44):
AW Double or Nothing twenty twenty five after being out
for several weeks in the Anarchy. In the Arena match,
he attacked Claudiotastic Castingnoli, and it looked like there may
have been something about to go down with him and
Samoa Joe, which is I considering their you know, buddies, same.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Faction and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But Fightful Select has a report out there that there
is no date for Hook's return.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
He is still not medically cleared.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The reason for the Double or Nothing appearance was to
kind of plant the seeds for storylines coming in the future.
So it's very cool that they're kind of future booking
and think of these things through really trying to figure
out what they want to do long term. With Hook,
he obviously has had the opportunity to really participate in
some big feuds already in his young career. He is
potentially one of the pillars going forward of their company.
(09:32):
A lot of conversation about how many talents have come
in and out and whatnot from WWE to AW and
then back again. Hook is somebody who has no prior
WWE affiliation, So if Tony Kahm wants to strap a
rocket to him and take it off, take off, you
know they can do that. It's a homegrown talent, as
opposed to some of the other guys who've come in
from it WWE from time to time, who may not
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always show the same level of loyalty that somebody. You
would think that the Hook would because this is the
company that gave him his first opportunity, his first big break,
So definitely something to keep an eye on. I'm very
interested to see how they would potentially book a feud
between Hook and Samoa Joe, but that's hopefully a long
way down the road and we'll have to see how
(10:16):
things go. Drew McIntyre in the New Switching Gears a
little bit SummerSlam, we talked to the previous episode, he
is kind of stuck in the United Kingdom right now,
did not bring his US passport and he's being held
up and not able to get back. Some people thought
this was storyline. Various media outlets are insisting that this
is legitimate, that he's not been able to get home yet.
(10:37):
Someone did say there is a quote that ww has
quote unquote wheels in motion for alternative plans. There's a
report from Wressell Votes that they said I spoke with
a source who tells me wheels or emotion for alternative
plans in the event, Drew McIntire's unable to get back
to smack Down this Friday in New Jersey. What that
means for his tag team match against Jelly Rowland Randy
(10:58):
Orton at SummerSlam is yet to be I what a
strange situation you would think there would have to be
an easy I mean, let's be honest, it's been days.
You could have gone to his house and put his
American visa in a FedEx envelope and gotten it to
him by now, you know what I'm saying, Like, this
is kind of ludicrous that we're waiting this long to
find out what they're gonna do. With this match, which
(11:20):
is a high profile match with a major celebrity booked
for the show, you really need to know what you're
doing going forward on the heels of all the festivities
leading into SummerSlam. The other conversation piece is Goodther talking
about and there's a quote maybe there's a chance that
he gets the opportunity to face John Cena this year.
(11:42):
On Radio Times, he claimed that he hopes to face
John Cena in the ring before his retirement. He said, quote,
it's great for him that he is able to do
that and say this is the way I want to
finish it, in the way I want to go out.
That's a great way to do it. If somebody deserves it,
then it's him. It's good to have him back around.
I have not interacted with him or seen him much
(12:02):
because he's on SmackDown mostly, but who knows. There's still
a long time left, so maybe there's a chance to
get in there with him before he hangs it up.
He's a guy that everybody knows. It's like what Hogan
was in the nineties. If you know wrestling, you know
John Cena. It also shows the love and passion he
has for the business. He doesn't need to do it.
He's financially got bigger fish to fry with his movies,
and he's a made man already, so there's no pressure
(12:24):
for him to do all of that. But he decided
to invest a whole year into this. It's a very
classy way for someone like him to go out and
have his one year of giving back and do it
one more time. I would love to see it. I
really think this is the kind of match that much
like the Goldberg match, except that John seen has always
been much more athletic than Goldberg. I think Gunther could
(12:45):
get something really special out of John Cena. We've mentioned
this in a previous episode a few weeks back. Curious
to see where that goes from there. I would not
be surprised if that ended up being the last match
in John Cena's tirement tour. I really think that that
might be exactly what WWE needs to do to really
(13:05):
pop the crowd. And look, if you think about it,
if Sina puts him over on his way out the door,
you've made Goodther tenfold. You really have the biggest name
in the business for the last decade and a half,
and he's the one who puts him away. I think
that would be absolutely fantastic. I think it would be
great for business, and I would really really be interested
(13:28):
in seeing that. But again, we'll have to wait and see.
There's a lot going on going, you know, heading into
this weekend, and I think once we get through this
weekend and the two night SummerSlam, we may have a
better idea better sense of where things are going, especially
with people like Carrion Cross and Scarlett whose contracts have
been highly debated. He was out today Fightful Select, putting
(13:51):
out a quote from Carrie and Cross saying I don't
think I should talk about any of it right now,
but I'm hoping that when it's time, the time is right,
everyone will know what's going on, including us. Not sure
what that means. It could mean that he already has
a contract and he's playing to the crowd and doing
what he does with social media. It could mean that
he really doesn't have a new contract yet and here
he is in a premium match at SummerSlam, kind of
(14:13):
following the modus OPERENDI of WWE. Here's a guy whose
contract is come and do. Let's give him a push
to encourage him to sign again. And then we'll just
forget all about him. I hope that doesn't happen. I
think the fans love him right now, so we'll have
to wait and see how things play out.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But you just never know.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I've been dodging some of this conversational stuff all week
because you know how emotional last week was for some
of us with the loss of Hulk Hogan. But there
are some things we have to get to good, bad,
ugly in between all points. Let's start with this current
WWE superstars slamming fans who honor Hulk Hogan, telling him
to do their research, and posting the rant video where
(14:54):
Hogan was making some of the disparaging remarks that he
had made previously that are so notorious. At this point,
the WWE talent is Jamar Hampton. He has been on LFG,
He's been on Evolve. This young man he's looking to
make a name for himself in the business. And I
can respect the fact that he is not a fan
(15:17):
of the things that have been said. All right, I
get that, I do. My concern here is is I
have watched all episodes of FG, and I think the
kid has a lot of opportunity, a lot of promise
certainly needs to work on some of his entring work,
but I think he's doing a great job. My concern
is is that with him coming out being so strong
about this, that he could be gaining some heat in
(15:43):
the back because obviously this is something that WWE did
not put into his social media feed. It's not something
they were looking to do. If anything, they've been They've
done three tributes to the guy, you know what I mean. Like,
it's not one of these things where they were like, Okay,
we're gonna put tribute to it and that we want
you to go out in trash talk. No, that's not
the case. This guy did this on his own social media.
He included the YouTube link to the audio and captured
(16:04):
the post with what the captain says, is this really
who he should be celebrating? Do your research and it's
the hul Cogan racist audio nine twenty sixteen League in transcript.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's deep stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And like I said, I've said this before in the
previous two episodes, you can feel any way you want
to feel about this. I'm not here to judge anyone,
who am I but you have to wonder and he's
and this kid is not the only one. The ex
ESPN analysts are coming out, and some of them, Bamani
Jones says, hulkovi and never Hogan never had a legacy. Now,
I'm not going to go that far. I don't think
this guy has a clue what he's talking about. I
(16:38):
don't know him. Okay, Look, it's one thing to say
he tarnished his legacy because of this, these horrible things
that have come out of his mouth. And I would
have no problem with that. He has the right time
with Bomani Jones is his YouTube show. He has a
quote in here, why do people love Hulkgan so much?
And I have spent the last ninety six hours and
(16:59):
change trying to up with an answer to that question.
I don't have it. Well, we all had, and he
says we all And everything I read stipulated that he
was a giant, enormous pop culture figure and he was
the most famous of all the wrestlers. I didn't see
anything I thought gave a real explanation as to why
it was that this guy was that popular and that famous, right,
(17:19):
Because the thing is, you got to win over your
block before you can win over your region, before you
can win over your country before you can win over
your world.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
In this case, I'm using the block as being a
wrestling like he had to win over wrestling to move
into this bigger world of pop culture fate. Right, how
exactly he won over wrestling, I mean the wrestling fans,
not the mechanicis of wrestling business, right, just winning over
and becoming such a popular wrestling fan. Vince can't make
(17:47):
you like who you like or not like who you
want to like. Like, It doesn't work that way, right.
Those crowds, they who love the Hulkster were real. We
all acknowledged that he was a bad wrestler, okay, right,
we all generally stipulate that he was a bad wrestler,
and the majority of the wrestling really popular wrestlers are
good wrestlers. He wasn't exactly the coolest wrestler. I mean,
he ain't no Rick Flair, Right, We also wind up
(18:07):
with that part He's not really that guy and low key.
His character was a little bit corny, right, the training
prayers and vitamins. Even though we found out the vitamins
you couldn't buy them in stores, you know what I'm like,
He's out there telling you to take vitamins to get
big as me. Meanwhile, he put his pants down, putting
his booty out. Right, we know things about Rick Flair
that aren't so great. When Rick Flair dies, we're not
(18:29):
going to break out break them out like that. It
doesn't land the same. Like as much as people like
me love Rick Flair, there's something different about Hulkogan just
landed completely different with hul Kogan. Again, it's hard to
have a legacy. But what we know, what we know
you for is play fighting. There's no substance there. Okay, Like,
what is the Rocks legacy? Does the Rock have a legacy?
(18:49):
He's a very entertaining playfighter, Like that's that is not
that's not mean what you have a legacy? Right? So
this guy sounds like he's implying that there's no legacy
there because it's play fighting, which he goes on with
his fandom about Rick Flair. Ric Flair is a play
fighter too, and look, I'm so tired. Ready here comes
me getting fired up, Reddy. I need to try to
keep myself in check. But he goes into this whole
(19:10):
ti rade. He throws in about him being a bad wrestler.
Let's be honest, right, let's go down some of Now,
I'm not talking about your your mount rushmore of like
technical megastars like Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, Ricky Stembo, that
kind of stuff, big big names. Andre the Giant. Was
he fantastic catches catch can wrestler? Absolutely not the big show,
Absolutely not triple h super technical, But he wasn't the
(19:31):
biggest star Hulk Cogan you ever watch? Did this guy
ever watch matches that he had in New Japan Pro
Wrestling when he's doing drop toe holds and wristlocks into
you know, kickups and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, he doesn't have a clue.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I question how old this guy is because, let
me be honest with you, unless you lived through nineteen
eighty four, eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight,
eighty nine, ninety ninety one, ninety two, you don't have
a right to be speaking about this like you know anything,
because it's not about facts and figures. It's not about
dates in a yearbook in an almanac. It's about the
(20:05):
emotion you felt when it happened. He clearly wasn't a
fan when this happened. I don't even know who this
guy is and I don't really care this channel. I
go all out of my way to try not to
be controversial. Hulk Hogan is controversial. Hulk Hogan said some disgusting,
irreprehensible things about people that he never should have said.
(20:25):
I will never justify that. Does it tarnish his legacy? Absolutely?
Does he still have a legacy? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Does The Rock, like he mentioned The Rock, Does the
Rock have a legacy?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Absolutely? Rick Flair? Absolutely, they all. Do you know what
the legacy is? They entertain millions and millions of fans
around the world in a way that transcended their niche
and became mainstream. When you look around the world, you
don't see people showing up to WWE shows wearing the
(20:58):
same number of, Saynymar jerseys as you see people showing
up to soccer events wearing nWo or Hulk Hogan or.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Any other kind.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You don't see Lionel Mezi going to hype up the
wrestlers backstage at a wrestling show, but Rick Flair shows
up almost every NFL team and hypes them up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Hulk Hogan was doing that too.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The guy clearly has a jaded.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Opinion and he's entitled to it because what he said
on that recording we mentioned earlier is heinous and other
things he's done, the lying, the embellishing. I get all
of that, but that is not that has nothing to
do with the fact that this is a guy that
the only reason this guy can even speak about Rick
Flair right now is because of Hulk Hogan. The only
reason this guy has a conversation about the Rock is
(21:42):
because of Hulkgan. Because let's be honest, and I said
this in a previous episode. The NWA, Rick Flair, all
those guys, they were not killing it back in the day.
They were struggling. Were they making money for a short while? Yes,
in nineteen eighty seven they started losing money, which is
why they were sold.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
To Ted Turner.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
When he purchased the NWA, I apologize he didn't by
the NBA. He purchased the intellectual property and created World
Championship Wrestling. Anyways, I could go on about this forever.
Let's move on because it's driving me crazy. Speaking of
Rick Flair, Rick Flair coming on Arie Hawani's show talking
about a variety of topics, including why at WrestleMania eight
(22:21):
there was no match between he and Hulk Hogan. His
quote here says, I don't know the answer to that.
I'll tell you what I think. I don't think Hulk
wanted to leave on a losing note, which I totally
understand because who I am after what he's done for
the company. And number two, I don't think maybe they
thought it would draw like it should. I have no idea.
The one thing that I know for sure is that
I never ever got over in New York. Rick Flair
(22:43):
referencing the fact that no matter how big his star
power was in NWAWCW or pick whatever you want to
refer to it, he just never reached that same level
of success when he went to WWE nineteen ninety ninety
one ish timeframe ninety one. And that's true. I get it,
I understand it. But there have been many people who
theorized that they did these test runs in house shows
(23:04):
and local markets, did a whole loop, and they just
weren't feeling the reactions they were getting, which caused Vince
to change course and go a different direction. But that's
that match at WrestleMania. We all fought and all we
dreamt about having, and it just never came to fruition
on the ongoing topic of hulkogin we actually have to
shift gears a little bit into his daughter Brooke. A
(23:26):
lot of things about Brook this week. One it came
out that she had been removed from his will, was
not interested in any of his money, which is interesting.
She didn't want to get in the middle of any drama.
Then it came out that she put a beautiful eulogy
out to her father, and one of the quotes in
her says, his hugs were my home. Very supportive of
her father, understanding that there was a lot of personal
(23:46):
stuff she's not going to go into, but that they
had been working through the last couple of years, basically
focused on her concerns about other people taking advantage of
him in business dealings in other situations, and that was
something that was of concern to her. But it was
a beautiful eulogy. And then following it up that unfortunately
it sounds like wwe never invited her to the tribute shows,
(24:07):
which I have no idea how that could possibly be
the case. Absolutely terrible. She put it on her Instagram
traced for those of you giving me crap for not
attending Dad's tributes WW did not extend an invite, which
that just blows my mind. And she's not the only one,
shockingly to me. Linda Hogan, the former wife, the former
spouse of Hulk Hogan, talks about him very positively. She
(24:30):
says she never moved on from Halkogan. Several quotes she
was on Instagram, she put up, I had no idea
he passed away this soon. We all thought he would
make a comeback, big surprise. We're all devastated. Hit me
so hard, she said later. I loved Hulkster more than
he loved me. It hurt when he cheated, but he
was so famous. I sort of understood, but it was crushing.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I never got over him or started a real relationship
with anyone. I missed him, she said. I've been weeping
all day. The finality is just shocking. We spent every
minute to get for so many years. I've known him
since I was twenty, he was twenty eight years old,
I was twenty two. I still love him, even though
I never spoke or saw him. Nick did, and Nick
would tell me things and vice versa, just the news
(25:09):
about life. I still felt although Brooke and we were
still a family it's so hard to know he's just gone.
I tried to stay strong for Nick, but I'm melting down.
It's very sad. I love you, Holkster. You were my man,
the only man for me. Rip what a It's shocking
when they have such an ugly divorce and all the
stuff they went through to hear that, but it's also
(25:29):
beautiful in a way. It means everything they had. I
feel like he was real, at least for her. I
actually suspect it was for him as well, but definitely
seems like it was for now. I'm not gonna crap
on the fact that she says she never moved on
to anybody else, and there was pictures and video of
her with another dude, but obviously not at the level
that she had with hull Cogan. So, you know, prayers
out to her. She's obviously going through morning same thing
(25:51):
with Brooke, Nick, all of the Hogan family, and oddly enough,
straight Vince McMahon in the news also because he had
a serious car act accident. Apparently same day as the
hul Cogan news broke, he was he was involved in
a crash in Connecticut. TMZ Sports reported that you know
he was driving his twenty twenty four Bentley northbound on
(26:14):
Route fifteen in Westport and he rear ended the twenty
twenty three BMW four thirty and then struck a wooden
beam guardrail in the median. The person who he hit
has come out and given a really interesting statement. Almost
sounded like it was something put together for reality television.
But whatever it is, what it is, I'm not here
to trash anybody. Just seemed very strange. It deployed all
(26:36):
the airbags. Fortunately nobody was like seriously injured. But he
is being cited for this so and apparently has a
history of being a horrible driver, so hey, you know,
who knows. But odd that it was the same day
as Hogan's situation. Very very strange, keeping with the legality
news because how how can you segue to anything other
(26:56):
than that. Former WWE superstar Duke the Dumpster Drosie has
his court appearance next month in his legal battles. For
those who don't know, he has been accused of attempted
a aggravated sexual exploitation of a miner. He apparently was
trying to purchase material that was very aggressive and very
(27:17):
inappropriate with minors in April twenty twenty four and apparently
was not successful in acquiring that material, thank god, but
the intent was there and he was still found to
be have enough evidence there to bring charges against him.
How horrible. You know. I'm not in full transparency. I'm
(27:37):
not saying for him. For anybody who is affected by this,
to have someone in that situation be open to that
stuff just blows my mind. I don't understand why people
do what they do. It's absolutely disgusting. Let's get off
all this deep stuff. Let's get into some more fun stuff. Okay,
last part of the show tonight is probably the most
important part of the show. It is a prediction time
WWE SummerSlam twenty twenty five, two nights coming up in
(28:00):
a couple of days. Let's go down Night one. Tiffany
Stratton versus Jade Cargill. No surprises for me here, I'm
going Jade Cargill the whole way. Wouldn't it be interesting
for her to win this championship, for Ria to win
the other one, for them to face off at Crown
Jewel shortly or I think I actually think it's in
Perth where they go for the Crown Jewel Championship or
whatever it is. I actually think Jade will win here,
(28:21):
though there is a case to be made for Stratton
to retain for other reasons if Bianca bell Air ends
up getting involved in some way and go and heal,
but I'm gonna save that for further down the pike.
I'm going with Jade Cargill. Let's assume Drew McIntyre makes
it back. Randy Orton and Jelly Roll versus Drew McIntyre
and Logan Paul. This celebrity never loses. I'm going with
(28:42):
Randy Orton and Jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's just the way it is. And somebody people say, oh, yeah,
Logan Paul's a celebrity too. Yeah he is, but he's
more of a wrestler nowadays. He really is. I get it.
He's got a channel in endorsements and all that kind
of stuff, but he really he was made for the
wrestling business. Jelly rolls the guest celebrity always win. So
I'm going with Jelly Roll. We have Gunther versus see
him punk the theorized main event for Night one. This
(29:07):
is a tough one for me, a really tough one.
I think if Gunther keeps the Championship. He can go
on to defend that against John Cena if John Cena
is no longer champion. I think if John sen is
gonna stay champion and see him Punk wins this match,
it opens the opportunity for either a seth Rollins, cash
in or other feuds going down the pike with with
you know, people like Jay Usso or bron Breaker or whatever.
(29:27):
And this is hard, It's really hard. I think for me,
what I think would make the most sense would be
for I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say Gunther retains
the championship over se him Punk. Even though Punk just
lost to Sena for the w W Championship. I hate
to see him lose twice in a row in one of
those types of matches. I don't know where we go
with him after that, but Gunther's just over like Rovers,
(29:50):
so I'm going with Gunther the judgment day Rock Colrodriguez,
Rox San Perez defending against Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss.
I just think it's time Aaron Bliss just come together.
They make a lot of sense. They seem to be
very happy in that tag team and r K bro
kind of feel and I my prediction is Charlotte Flair
and Alexa Bliss take the Tag team Championship.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Sammy's Ain Carryon Cross covered that earlier.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I think if Sammy's Ain wins, which I think he will,
and that's my prediction, it's because Carrying Cross may be leaving.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
If Cross pulls off a win.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think he's got a contract already in hand. Just
isn't telling anybody. That's just my opinion. But if Cross loses,
he's probably leaving. If Zayne wins, but if Cross wins,
he's definitely got a new contract. That's just my opinion.
Roman reigns j Uso versus bron Breaker and Bronson Reid. Wow,
you know there's not there's only there are only one
way I see this going down. Rains has not had
(30:42):
a match since Mania. He lost at Mania. Can't lose
two in a row. Rains and Jay win by pinning
Bronson Reid because you're not gonna do anything to harm
the character of bron Breaker.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
You're just not.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That guy is gonna have the rocket ship like they
were talking about on Unreal the other day with Jay Usso,
so I think that's how that goes down. Night two
let's go through that. The tag team Ladder match. I'm
not gonna list all the names. You know who they are.
I'm sticking with the Wyat six to retain. I just
they just got the belts. He can't take them off
of them already or else. That title really bounced around
like a ping pong ball, and I ate that idea.
(31:13):
Dominic Mysterio AJ Styles Intercontinental Championship Match, I am pulling.
Oh gosh, this is a tough one for me. If
I see, we haven't had the thin Baller match yet.
We haven't, and so I feel like we have to
have that for the title. But then again, Mysterio is
going to challenge for the Mega Championship and they are
trying to get that brand over. He could lose the
AJ here and then win the Mega Championship and he
(31:34):
still has gold for the Judgment day.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Something that can bring ballor to triple A.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh man, I'm going with Dominic Mysterio to retain. I
can't believe I just said that. Solo Sakoa Jacob Fatu
Steel Cage Match, United States Championship. I am Jacob Fatu
all the way, even if we see a returning Tomatanga
maybe we see a debuting Zilla Fatu or somebody else
in the family, a journey Fatu or something. But I
really think this is where you could get it to
(32:00):
Jacob Fatu to get it back. That's probably why they
took it off him in the first place, even though
I think Soldo Takoa is doing the best work he's
ever done. Right now, Becky Lynch lyra Vakaria for the
Women's International Championship Notice qualification, no count out, last chance match.
I think this is where we see Bailey come to
the aid of Becky Lynch, turn heel and help Becky
(32:21):
retain the Women's Championship. My my, my prediction is Becky
retains because of Bailey. The triple threat Naomi Ria Eo
EO has always beat Rio Rihea has never bet Neo.
We're not gonna have Ria beat Eo here. But we
also can't take that belt off of Naomi. This is
her big run. She wants to start a family. Naomi
is gonna retain Ria Ripley is gonna hit a riptide
(32:43):
on Eo. I think this is a popular opinion. Many
people have Ria's gonna hit the riptide on Eo. Neo's
gonna throw her out of the ring and steal the pin.
That's what's gonna happen. We're gonna see Ria do something
later in the year. But this sets up Naomi as
one champion, Jade as the other, and we can have
that match do we thought was gonna happen when Naomi
was gonna cash in this night. We can have that
now for the Crown Jewel Championship. I think that's a
(33:05):
great idea and the main event night too, John Cena
Cody Rhoads for the WWE Championship. I'm sorry, I don't
know where to go with this. This is tough. I
don't want to see the double turn yet. I want
to see Cody stay face. Does the rock show up?
Oh my gosh, I'm going with Cody Rhoads wins the
WWE Championship, so that John Cena is freed up to
(33:26):
work with Gunther, who I predicted earlier to retain his championship.
Cody Roads can go on to have that feud with
Randy Orton. They tease that after their match earlier this year,
Sena has other things he can do and this heel
turn just hasn't worked. This way, you can get Seena
back to being the baby face that the fans want
him to be and we can just move on and
close out his career in a much more positive way.
(33:49):
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