September 18, 2025 • 61 mins
In this powerful episode, we sit down with standout college athlete Jaz Shipp to talk about the journey, the grind, and the goals that keep her locked in on and off the court. If you're a hooper, a student-athlete, or just someone chasing a dream, this conversation is packed with gems you don't want to miss.We get into topics like:
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- Who first introduced her to the game
- The biggest basketball influence and role model in her life
- What the transition from high school to college ball really looks like
- The daily routine of a student-athlete
- Advice for high school athletes hoping to play at the next level
- The legacy she wants to leave behind in his college program
- Whether she sees a future in basketball beyond college—on the court or in coaching/training
Don't forget to follow Jaz on Instagram @jazmynshipp
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From from the All right, so, uh we're back again.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This time I have the elegant jazzman Ship college player
basketball player down at west Mont. You know, she came
on the podcast to drop some gyms on some people
and tell y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
About like her experience and how she got started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Uh. First off, thank you for coming on, Jazz. I
know it was short, it was last minute. I know
you busy, you know. Uh oh yeah, you know. So, uh,
Jazz is like a Hall of Fame player up where
I stay, you know, up in Bunning Lake, up in
(00:53):
Lake in Washington, the state of Washington. She's down in
Cali right now. I think at the high school she
probably got every accolade you could think of, and she
showed she showed the younger girls that they can make
it from here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So you know, whatever that I am grateful.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Plus, she took my daughter under her wing, you know
when she was a freshman, made the adjustment real easy
for her.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So for that, I'm grateful Jazz. You know, I appreciate you,
of course.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But we're gonna go again to some questions because you know,
she is a college athlete, so they on this tight
schedule and stuff. So Jazz from the beginning, who put
the ball in your hands?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And how did you get started? Then?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean I started playing basketball in first grade. I
played parks and rec. But when I first started, it
started because there were some neighborhood boys down the street
and they had a hoop in their driveway and I
like went down and just like outside as a kid
one day and I went down to ask them if
I could play with them, and they said that I
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was too little and that I wasn't good enough, and
so then I told my mom.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I was like six.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think I told my mom I wanted to play basketball,
and so she signed me up for rec and I
started playing co ed in first grade. Second grade, I
started playing just girls. But it was always been I mean,
it's really been like both of my parents have always
been super supportive of me and playing basketball.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I got my own hoop in my yard in second grade.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So yeah, I guess you could say my parents and
I just like I love basketball, And honestly, I think
I probably started it just because I wanted to prove
people wrong. And I've always been the type of kid
who I played best when I have a chip on
my shoulder. So I guess it's sort of how it
all started cap full circle.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But yeah, so when you get the hoop in your yard,
did the boys come down to play on yoho on
yoh hoop?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
No, they weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It was pretty much just me and my dad training
like he wanted to start his own like basketball academy thing,
which never really happened, but he got all the balls
and everything, and we would go out in the yard
and just train like all the time, like and back
then it wasn't so much of like, oh, like second
graders now, I feel like they're just training like crazy.
But for me, it was just like a fun activity,
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a way to get me to go to sleep at
night because.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Keep me active.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean I was just always an active kid.
So but no, the boys, I never saw them again
until like fourth or fifth grade, but I just remember
that one time. I was just like so upset because
they didn't invite me and said I couldn't play with them.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
By that time they didn't want no part of you. No.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean first grade, first grade, I was taller
than everybody else, so I was already getting all the
rebounds and all those kids were I think they're probably
in third or fourth grade, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I must have hit a growth it or something.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I just remember being like I was like a
baby bird underneath the hoop, just like catching every single
rebound and trying to put it back, put it back,
put it back, probably what like one for ten, but.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, it was. It was funny.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mm is that Anna behind you? What's up? Annay? She
didn't she didn't come to cheat on her homework this year.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
No, she just had our first day of class today.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I would say, because I know, you know all
the answers, so I make sure she ain't cheating down there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, uh well, now that's that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I always wonder who start you in basketball, But then
you know, we gotta go to question number two. Mm hm,
who has been your biggest basketball influence of role?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Probably from the farthest earliest one I can remember was
watching Brianna Stewart at Yukon.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I didn't really start watching like college basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I knew of like Kelsey Plumb and shan Tealosa Whorr
in that whole class like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, back
when they went to made it to the Final four
and stuff at U Dub. But definitely earliest I remember
is Brianna Stewart watching her step through move when she
was at Yukon and like when I was in fifth
(05:36):
or sixth grade, and I just remember like spamming the
step through like for like two years straight until people
started to figure out how to guard it and then
I had to change things up. But yeah, Brianna Stewart
has definitely been my like biggest influencer role model. I'd say,
like off the court, my biggest role model has definitely
been Like, my high school coaches were great. I mean
(06:00):
obviously as he is like a great influence and role
model and she's younger than me.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So she don't put her in the jet.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah no, no, no, I'm plugging plug as you jet.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
She never stop talking about this if she heard this.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah no, But yeah, my high school coaches were definitely
one of my biggest role models. In high school, they
just were always there for me and always pushed me
to be better and never accepted anything less than maximum efforts.
So I feel like that has always just really pushed
me and helped me out.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Somm So, do you like a coach who will be
on you or do you like a coach who's relaxed.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I definitely like a coach who For me in high school,
it was sort of the experience of if they were relaxed,
you knew you were doing something wrong because they were
always just on you and you didn't really have that option.
I'd say I definitely like a coach who is just
able to like be okay with me asking questions, because
I'm the type of player like, if there's ever a
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chance for me to ask questions, I'm always asking them
to coach, whether it's in practice or games whatever, about
any players, I'm always asking questions.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So having a coach.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That's able to like help me in that and just
answer my questions. And I think my coach here is
just she's awesome and like really knowledgeable, and she's just like, yeah,
she's a great coach. So I mean she kind of
embodies that, I think, But yeah, I'd say she definitely
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is the type. She's the coach who she's like very enthusiastic,
but she also is able to keep you like calm,
like without she's able to like bring the energy up
without it being chaotic, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So yeah, yeah, So when.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It comes to your role model, what exactly do you
look for in them? Like, are you looking at the
way they play the game? Are you looking at the
way they carry them?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Zoom?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think I'm looking at both.
My role model has sort of shifted throughout the years.
So my early years it was Brandon Stewart and just
like pretty much all how she played basketball. But now
I've sort of shifted in my later I mean not
really later, I'm still like almost yeah, but lately I've
(08:23):
I've been shifting, And Angel Wilson has been like a
really I think a cool role model for me, even
just like the way that she carries herself with the
amount of like confidence that she has, like in anything
that she does is just absolutely like inspired.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's so inspiring to me. And like having read her.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I read her book this summer and it was like
one of the best books I've ever read, Like it
was just so cool to read and like be able
to relate to her and like see why she does
the things that she does. And so yeah, she's definitely
someone that I would that I looked to as a
role model, like off the court and who is a
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basketball player for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So now so now I got I got a question.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So, you know, in the NBA, when it comes to
people training a lot and practicing a lot, like I
seen how much you practice and train?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Is you know Kobe is like mumble mentality and NBA?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Who is that person in the w NBA who you
think had that mumble mentality?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Who just you know they put in a lot of
work on their game.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh, I mean, I think I would just say she's
just like Eve. Yeah she's a rookie, but I just
think she is just like someone. She may not be
exactly my like role model necessarily just because I mean
we play different positions and it's just like different, but
I just I would sort of say idolize her.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean she's like just she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And I've seen, like I watched like all I don't
know the documentaries and stuff about her and just seeing
like how she works in her work ethic is just
like absolutely crazy. And yeah, I mean there's honestly a lot.
But I feel like the WNBA players, a lot of
them nowadays are really humble, so it's like they kind
of do the like they win in the dark, like
(10:18):
you don't really see them posting all their like training
highlights and things like that. They're just sort of putting
in the work and then letting it show when they play.
But yeah, members is the first person that I think
would come to mind when I think of like MoMA
mentality like type of player for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Uh So, now you got me thinking, because since you
said the training, you always see a lot of like
me and training to get Yeah, you think it's like
that on the girl's side, one's.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Side, I think it is.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I think it might be a little bit more individualized,
but I think that it definitely. I mean, I think
this is a whole different conversation if you to talk
about like the different types of like publicity and stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think that a lot of times trainers.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Might see the WNBA player and be like, Okay, yeah,
I'll work with her, but I'm not gonna like post
all about it. Trainers see like some of the big
name NBA players, They're like, Okay, yeah, like I'm gonna
put this all over my feet and more people are
gonna see it, and so I think that's a part
of it. I also think that like it depends on
what team you're on and the type of culture that
you were raised personally, like I'm the type of player
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I love to just like train with other people, like
I train better.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's easier.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I mean, it's not easier, it's I like, I feel
like when you're training with somebody else, it's it's a
little bit more challenging when you have someone to like
not compare yourself to, but you can like push.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Each other, and that just I love that better.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I know a lot of players on my team,
like m all the teams I've been on have always
been like super united and just like love to train together.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And so personally, for me, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I know other people who are not raised with
that sort of expectation that they might they might prefer
trained by themselves or if they were in like some
toxic environment where it's like they're now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
See now you got me thinking. So you know, they
got they got like the the brotherhood. But basketball players, don't,
you know, boy basketball players and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Do you think Seattle means sisterhood?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I mean I think I think Seattle as a whole,
like the Storm, I'd say they they're on the up
and up, I think in terms of their organization and
I think that Sue Bird has really like I mean,
she blew up the Seattle Storm like crazy. I think
that like for now, Seattle has sort of not hit
(12:50):
its peak, but they might be on a slight plateau.
I mean with all the right now, they're the oldest
team in the w NBA, So I mean I think
that they taishood. Yeah, Seattle's oldest team in terms of
like average age.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Of their players right now. Oh yeah, they're the oldest.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So I mean they're sort of in.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Their Lakers era right now.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But I think that that doesn't have to be I
think it's also hard with I didn't know that the
w NBA also does like mid season trades, and so
I think that it can be hard to like build
a sisterhood off of that, just because it's hard to
build chemistry with people if you're only gonna be playing
with them for a week or like a game. And
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so I think that like that could be a part
of it. I think that another thing that could happen
in Seattle that would be cool to see was like
just other athletes supporting athletes, like I would love to
see like Seahawks, more Seahawks players at Storm games and
at Rain games, and I'd like to see Rain players
at Stort like Seahawks games. Like just having that sort
of connection I think would be really beneficial. And like
(13:54):
I think you would bring everybody up.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Just having that they are the all they preferational basketball
team up here exactly, so you know, and they do
got uh old the I don't even know how to
say her last name, ola, uh yeah, and uh, what's
(14:18):
the point guard Smith? Yes, Scott. I don't know how
I forgot Scott's name, you know, Yeah, but I mean
that that trade. They just had that girl pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I never paid attention to her when she was at Washington,
but her coming over here, Yeah, that girl nice.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
N w n b A. I'm like, you're tough. I
respect that.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's not easy getting up to that level, just like
it's not easy to getting getting to your level and
playing in college. You realize that everybody don't make it
past high school.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That stuff hard.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So okay, So the next question would be next topic,
how has.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The transition from high school to college ball been?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Man, I feel like that's like that's a crazy it's
a loaded question. I'd say like my freshman year last year.
Saw a sophomore this year, but my freshman year was, like,
it was just hard. I mean, you're I moved away
a thousand miles away from home. I had no friends,
I had my teammates. I went to Africa before the season,
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and like, I had never been away from my family
for ten days, let alone in Africa for ten days
with people that I'd never met before.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And so have you been out the country.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I've been out the country, but not off the continent.
So ive been to like Canada and Mexico. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean that was just a crazy experience in itself,
and it was hard being away from my family, but
it's sort of set the foundation of what college is,
which is being away from your family and meeting new
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people and seeing how other people live. So but I
mean high school to college basketball was a crazy jump.
I feel like not a lot of people talk about,
like truly from athlete to athlete, about how hard it
is once you get to college as an athlete, and
especially when you're playing basketball.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I mean, it takes up most of your time.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You are doing school in basketball, and you're still trying
to be another person because at the end of the day,
basketball is not the end all be all, and so
you have to balance like a lot of things. And
I mean college ball is intense. It's fast. There's not
a lot of like I mean, you either like know
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the plays or you don't.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Like it's and it shows.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's hard to Like in high school, it's easier to
like kind of cover for yourself in a way, like
if you don't know the plays, you send somebody else
on like just like skip it, like it's not a
big deal. But in college it's like you know the plays,
like you need to know it, and like if your
coach sees that you don't know it, like you're gonna
be running up and backs, like there's consequences for your
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actions here. And I'd say it's a huge jump. I
mean overall, I would just say college ball is just faster.
The whole tempo of it is just quicker and harder.
And I mean in high school, at any any high school,
this is true. I mean, if you're the best player
in your high school team and you go to play college,
everyone was the best player on their high school team,
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So I mean it's everyone's good. There's no weak link.
There's like you're competing for everything. But with my college,
I think that one thing that they do that's really
special is they like don't put us against each other,
because I feel like it's easy, like when everyone is
so good to just be like, well, I'm gonna fight
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for a starting spot, like I want to play this
many minutes, I want to score this many points. But
I think here it's really cool that like they really
emphasize not doing that. They say, like this is like
a team thing, and if you're not bought into the team,
then like you can go somewhere else, like our coach
has said, like if if you're not bought in and
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you don't want like to like play a role on
our team or like you just truly don't think that
like this is for you, like I will help you
find somewhere else to go, like, and I think that
that's that's something that's really unique, because if you don't,
like you're more than free to leave, like and coach
will help you. And but at the same time, like
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it's really special that you get to like be with
these girls who you know you all have the same
goal and you all want to do the same thing
and accomplish the same goals and for the same reason, like,
and it's just different from other schools. And I think
that that's really cool and unique to WESMNT and it
can make your college basketball experience way better because you
get way more out of it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So yeah, okay, so aswer this myth, is it easier
playing and a I A D three D two than
D one because everybody say the hardest D one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, from what I hear is no matter what level.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You're at, it's hard because it's a lot of great
players no matter what level you're in.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean I've never played Division one, so it's
hard for me to like speak on that, but I
would say, like from my experiences, I mean I think
that honestly my team and my program, I think that
we honestly train like Division one. I think that our
coach has had Division one coaching experience. She knows it
works and what doesn't She played Division one herself. She
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was a walk on at Oregon and ended up like
working her way up to captain on their team. Like her,
like her whole story is just really cool. But I mean,
just to that point, like she's really knowledgeable and she
knows how how we need to train in order to
be successful, and if that means working as hard.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
As Division one players or harder.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Then like she'll have us do it, and we'll do
it since we're bought in and that's what we sign
up for. So I mean, I don't know if it's
if it's harder or easier. I can't really speak on it.
I've had teammates who say that, like, being at our
school is similar to a D one, And I've also
had teammates who say, like that they went to a
Division one and it was harder. So I mean, it's
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really a toss up. I think it depends on where
you go. But I'd say that, like, we are a
really hard working team here. I can't speak for all
the Division twos, but for the ones that i've I mean,
I've had I've had people who tell me that there's
other Division twos who don't do anything, and I mean,
I think you'd have to look at the really good
Division twos.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I think sometimes, I.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Mean, honestly, some NI A teams will be n I
A I teams will beat Division two's and they'll beat
Division threes, and Division three will beat Division.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Twos like D two's and beat d one.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
So I mean, it's really it's just about where you're
at and which school's at in the culture. But I
mean it's honestly, I think it's all hard. It also
just depends on what your coach's priorities are for you
and the school that you're at and the priorities that
they have for you.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Good, right there, it looked like, you know, you said
this with your first podcast, but it looked like.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You used to getting in the view.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's funny, you know, because I know your mama gonna
be like, that's my girl. Look at you answering those questions.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So the next the next question that I have for
you is what does a typical day look like for
you as a student athlete?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Okay, are we talking like in season or out of season?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Let me see, so you're probably way busy in season,
so let's do let's do in the season.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, in season for me, I'd say I'll give you
like a typical Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Thanks to our Tuesdays and Thursdays look a little different.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But I'd say on an average Monday for me this year,
I don't have an eight am class, which is super convenient.
So I I ye, huh, yeah, I had an eight
a m It wasn't super bad. But I mean, if
I can get extra sleep and I don't have to
take an ADAM class, why not So I I let's see,
(22:46):
today was Monday, so I mean I woke up, I
got dressed, went to.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
What I do.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I didn't read this morning. I usually read that night.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
But I went to our dining hall for breakfast with
a teammate, and then from there I went to my
first class.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Of the day, which was communications.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
In there, I was in there for an hour, got
out at like ten fifteen. We have our schools a
Christian liberal art school, so we have chapel on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
So I go to Chapel from ten thirty to eleven twenty.
And then from Chapel I have another class which is history,
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a history class.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I had that today.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And then on when yeah, on Monday, Wednesday, Fridays and season.
That takes me up until twelve thirty five. So we
have practice on two fifteen to four fifteen on Monday,
Wednesday Friday, and so at twelve thirty five I'd probably
get some lunch either in my room, we're at the
dining hall. Takes some time to study, just rest, head
(23:59):
to the gym probably around one fifteen one one twenty,
and then I'll usually get the shooting shooting machine out
in season, get shots up, just warm up, and then
our warm up starts at two o five, So we
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start practice at two o five, go till four fifteen.
And during practice it's just high intensity drills.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
We're running through plays.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We have scout team, we're building and conditioning in there. Yeah,
and then in season we'll have lyft on Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
so that'll be from four to fifteen to five fifteen.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
If it was a game a day.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
A week of a game, we'd usually have film earlier
in the day or in the evening, so after lift
there might be a quick film. So overall, like you
have about a three to four hour trunk of basketball.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
In season with the team per day.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So you have we have twenty hour weeks and we
don't ever hardly push it to the full twenty hours,
I'd say.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
But it can get pretty close.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What about what about class in the in during the season.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Like, do you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Like, could you doing like four hours?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, so did you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Take less classes during the season or do you take
it like this earlier and later.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
No, we take the same amount of classes.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We just have to schedule our classes around practice.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
So it's like, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Can't we can't schedule our class for like between the
hours of two fifteen to four fifteen. But if say
you had a class that was during our lift, typically
you're allowed to like make up that lift if you
need to go to class, then you can like just
come back in on Tuesday and.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Get it done or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They keep with tipts.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's not like attendance.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's more just like everyone wants to do it for
the team, and so it's like you just get it done.
I mean, my team has never I've never met anybody
on my team who doesn't want to make up the
lifts or has tried to get out of it. It's
always just sort of like when can I come in
and make it up because I want to, unless like
you're injured, and then they'll say like no, like don't lift.
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But yeah, and so after our basketball is over, have dinner.
Today I went to the beach, So I just went
from straight from our like conditioning and five on zero
to the beach just jumped in the water real quick,
and then I had some dinner. Then you just have
time in the evening to.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Study, just hang out.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I mean during the week, we're just honestly doing a
lot of studying and working on stuff. And then for me,
my night tube routine is I usually spend some time.
I'll watch a little Netflix. I usually drink kombucha. Have
you heard of chad I had? As you try it once,
It's like a like a probiotic drink. But I usually
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drink one of those right before bed. It is can
it comes in like a yeah, in like a bottle.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Let's see if I have any I can't find any
of my fridge.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But well, what was her face like? And then let
me know if she liked it?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
She did not like it? She was Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Remember seeing it.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, it was so funny. But yeah, I'll usually have
one of those, and I take vitamins. I take those
before I go to bed and usually read a book
until I fall asleep. So and then I'm lights out,
usually around latest eleven.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So what about So you said most of your stuff
is on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. What do you do on
Tuesday and Thursday?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Tuesday like no.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I mean, we have practice on Tuesdays and Thursday too,
but I only have one class on Tuesdays and Thursdays,
so I just go to my one class and then
usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I like to do film
with one of my coaches in season, just to like
tweak things or they see things that I don't, and
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so it's easier for them to nitpick me than it
is for me to do it, because sometimes we all
lack a little self awareness. So I mean, yeah, yeah,
so but Tuesdays and Thursdays it's pretty similar. Honestly, we
just have more more time in the afternoons usually, but yeah,
our practices are from one to three and on Tuesdays
and Thursdays.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and so okay, now I'm asking this question.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I don't want to get nobody in trou Okay, but
now I ask college coaches this, and I ask some
other college players. Now y'all have y'all have four to
seven access to the gym or not?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It depends, honestly, I mean, yeah, we we don't really,
but it's also if you want to get in, you
can figure out how.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Okay, Now, don't get in trouble don't be out, you
will get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But our coaches usually will open it for us if
we want. I mean, because it doesn't count as practice
hours if they're not there, So we're allowed to be
in the gym whenever.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just if someone is there with the key.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Oh so they must stay on campus.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Our coaches don't, but they can like approve set times
like for us to be in the gym and then
like our campus safety will come let us in and
then we.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Can go in.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So just the question that I wanted to ask was,
is even though y'all have that type of access to the.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Gym, probably to the weight room too, right.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Not so much the weight room, but like sometimes yeah sometimes.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
But the thing that I wanted to say was.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
When I always act like the coaches and stuff like, man,
y'all got all this stuff, all these facilities and all
this stuff. I'm like, do kids take advantage of it?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And they be like.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, yeah, yeah, Like y kids don't be they don't
be working like that, you know, like you expect them
to be working, you know, And I'm wondering, is that
the same for like you think for your level?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, I don't I don't think that's the same. I mean,
all of my teammates. There's multiple times, like I'll just
walk into the gym on like Friday night just to
like hang out, or like I'll hear a ball dribbling,
so I'll just go in and it's usually one of
my teammates in there working out, or like really any
time of the day when it's open, one of my
teammates or like one or more of them are always
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in there doing something and I almost always run into
them when whether it's me shooting or them or us together,
Like the open times in the gym are usually always
pretty there's always somebody in there, so I'd say we
I'd say that we take advantage of it. I mean
some some coaches might say, like unless you're doing like
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hard training, that you're really not. But I mean if
you're able to, just like if y'all spare time and
you want to spend it shooting, I don't think any
coach is going to be mad at that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So do y'all Do y'all have open gyms like with
the boys with like the students, like in the mirror students,
Like when you when it's not season time off season
and do y'all just like getting them and just play.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Or even locals like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
How college works, but yeah, can locals come play? Or
I guess I don't even know if you call them
locals no more.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
There's there's some sting of our locals, but I mean
a lot of them are like they probably think they're
a little bit out of their comfort zone on that.
But we actually so we don't scrimmage our like men's
team just because it's like our men's team. It's like
a college men's team, so it's not really something we do.
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But we have a group of students of boys students
called Scout Our Scout Team, and so sometimes we'll host
open gyms with them and they'll like run with us.
They run with us during practice anyways, but sometimes we'll
set up like time outside of that if it's off
season and invite them and say, hey, we have runs
at this time if you guys want to come and
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be real to have you. And so then we're able
to have more of the girls in the same team
instead of like being combined with them and or like
playing against each other.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so a lot of the girls show up,
like the team show up when it's open gym time.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Or yeah, everyone shows up.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's unless like because we usually whenever we schedule open
gyms during our practice time anyways, we're scheduled to not
have class. So unless someone has like a doctor's appointment
or they're off campus for some reason, then they might
not make it. But usually everyone shows up. It's pretty
much expected. And yeah, never likes to play anyways.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
So yeah, but now, okay, this this off topic. But
you know, since you know you're I don't know how
many colleges is around where you're at right now, they're
just your college.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's US and then UCSB and Santa Barbara City College.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So do you do your team ever go out into
the community or like go to like games of younger kids,
or go to the schools anything like that. M hm
do that or no?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, we do a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We do for Halloween, we do this thing called trunk Retreat,
So we go to this one this church and we
like give candy to the kids and they usually love it.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Another thing that we do we've done in the past is.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Like host we host kids camps here a lot, so
a lot some of like kids will come here and
they'll take like summer camps like you have at Bonnie Lake,
and so we will work that if we're in town.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's usually during the summer.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
So this year I couldn't make it because I live
in Seattle, and so it's a bit of a.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Bit of a commune.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's that's that's more than a of a community.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, so, but yeah, we definitely we
get out in the community quite a bit, i'd say,
and we're honestly even working on it now. I'm on
a committee that's like just student athletes in one of
our goals this year is to really get out into
the community more, even more than we have in the past.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I mean, one thing I did that was really cool
last year was I got to work at I forgot
what it's called, but it's similar to like the Red
Cross and Salvation Army, not Salvation Army.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
It's called Santa Barbara, I'm not sure, but it's like
a shelter.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Basically, And so I was able to go serve on
Easter and like work in like the kitchen, like serving
people plates and stuff, and so that was really cool
and I know that, like some of my teammates have
done that in the past and they love it too,
and so yeah, it's cool to get out there and.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Meet people.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Were you able to participate in the Elite camp this
year or when you still you didn't make it back
in time?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We did our Prospect camp the first weekend we got back,
so we had that which was really really fun. I
had a great time. I mean, we were running in it,
we were like coaching, so I mean, I I lost
my voice completely by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
My voice was gone. But like, that was really fun.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And I think that they the kids really enjoyed it
from what I heard, like heard from them and the
way that they seem to respond.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
But yeah, that was that was really fun.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I know I heard you they had I heard they
had some girls from Seattle in it.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, there was a girl from where was Edmonds Woodway
I think, and then another girl who was supposed to
come from Fife, and then a girl from Sumner was
there too.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah. I guess y'all making making the name down there?
Are you the first? You're the first person from Washington
to go with me like play and no one.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of my teammates. My age is from Iaquah. Oh yeah,
they've had they've had girls from Washington in the past.
A girl before I left, she was from Spokane, or
like before I came here, she was from Spokane. And
then now we also have Mercer Island, so I mean
we have yeah, Washington. I feel like our coach likes
to recruit out of Washington. I mean they know Washington plays.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So yeah, there you go. Don't tell them, Jed, tell
them how Washington playing up here?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, all right, so sorry, get off the top of y'all.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know, once you know, a question can lead to
a lot more, you know. But Jazz, any girls who
want to go play at the next level, what tip
would you give some high school kids wanting to play
in common?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I would definitely tell them. One thing I would tell
them is like definitely training quality over quantity. I feel
like one thing that I've seen a lot recently on
social media and like like really everywhere and with my
own eyes. I mean I've just seen kids who are
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like young, young, young kids, like not taking days off,
like working out seven days a week.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
They're working out eight hours a day, like.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Just going full throttle, and I mean I know from
my own experience and also just as someone who like
kind of is able to help enter these kids, is
that like it's not about quantity, and like it's it's
way better for you to get like two hours a
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day of like good hard reps and you're going one
hundred percent rather than going fifty percent for eight hours.
It's just it's better for your game, it's better for
your mental better for your body. I mean, if you're
working out eight hours a day, like your body has
to be screaming for help.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Like it's just it's not healthy. And I've learned that.
I've learned that the hard way myself.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean I went through a phase my like sophomore
in junior year where I was just like on the
grind and I just wanted to quit. And so I
mean I did quit for like three months, but I
loved it too much.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I had to keep going.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But I mean, if that's even in the heads of
these like middle schoolers now, I just can't imagine like
it would be so much harder getting to that level
in college. And I feel like a lot of these
kids see playing college is like the end where they
can like take a deep breath and that things will
be easier when they don't really understand that, like you're
working this hard to continue to work harder, Like you're
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not working hard now to where you can not work
hard later, Like you're going to be working hard regardless.
And so I think that quality over quantity is like
definitely the biggest thing I would say, just it makes sense.
Another thing I would say is like utilizing rest days
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because that kind of goes in with like the quality
quality over quantity, Like.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Can you say that part one more time for somebody
who probably needs to hear what you just say it.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Utilize rest days please.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I feel like I've been a broken record for about
three years, so but I mean I can't. I can't
reiterate it enough. It's just it's it's hard. I mean, yeah,
I just I've seen it, I've witnessed it. I've it's
happened to me. It's not taking rest days is just
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so bad for your body and so bad for your
mental It's just like it's more destructive than anything.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Even if you're like, oh, like I want to play in.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
College and I want to go to the Olympics, and
I want to go to the WNBA and I want
to do all these things. You're not going to be
able to do it if you're working out seven days
a week and you're getting hurt every other week and
you have to take another week off because now you're
hurt or now you're sick. Like it's better if you
work out five days, six days a week even and
you're taking one day a week to just do nothing,
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and then your body can recover, you can mentally recover,
you can continue to have an identity outside of basketball,
which I think is really important that a lot of
kids aren't doing nowadays, and you can just like just
be a better well rounded person and you can still
continue to do those goals, like it's not going to
stop you. And I promise a lot of people have
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the mentality of like, oh, if I'm not working, somebody
else is and like okay, like so what like That's
what I would say, is like who said like they
might be working to get better than you, Like they
might be comparing themselves to you, So why are you
comparing yourself to them?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
And why are we comparing ourselves to anybody?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
It just that's just sort of my take on it.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Is just like I think rest days yeah, rest is
are I mean literally there's Sunday is like called the
Sabbath for a reason. I mean, we're not supposed to
do anything, so why are we out here grinding eight
days a week.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
But then sometimes, but then sometimes you have parents who
be like, if you're not getting ready right now, somebody
else is out there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
We're training to take your spot. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So it's like a lot of parents push their kids
to be like, you know, you can't. You can't tell
a parent that their kids is not going professional after
the first.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Grade, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I feel like, yeah, I've experienced that as a coach too,
where parents.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Are just like that's the part.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That's the part that you know, I'd be wondering, like
if the parents worry about he is getting burnt out,
you know from too much more Like I love ball,
but I do know that you know, some kids get
burnt out, yeah, you know from parents still offended because
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they put in just as much time as this kid,
plus money, so it's like an investment.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah. Yeah, and I think, like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I mean, I'm I'm not a parent, and so I
mean it'll be I'm also self aware. I know that
like if my good kid did play basketball, I'd probably
be the type of parent that's like I want you
to like maximize it. But at the same time, I've
been there as a player, and I think that it's
really hard for parents to like see from a player's
perspective of like like how things are. But like one
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thing I would just in parents encourage parents to do
is like be a parent and like allow your kid
to be a kid, Like because your kid is not
like a workhorse.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Your kid's not a racehorse.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Your kid is like this human who has like all
of these interest and like is exploring all of these things.
And like when your kid's really young, like they should
be playing like seven sports, like they have those that
type of energy. Like let them try everything, like make
them try everything. Like I know if I am a parent,
like I like my kid will play every sport under
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the sun, and and if they want to eventually decide
that they want to like focus on one, like that's great,
but like like try everything and like just like love
your kid. Bottom line, like your kid wants to be
their parent and not their coach. Like I mean, some
coaches are parents. Some parents aren't coaches, which I think
is that's a whole separate thing. And I think that
can be positive. But if you are not the coach
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of their team, then like you it's okay to step
back and be a parent, Like it's it's what you're
you had your kid to like be a parent.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
You didn't have this kid and they came out in
the womb and you were just like that's my workhorse,
Like this is the one, Like they're gonna get us out.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Like no, like you can't think to your kid like that.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So you know how many you know, how many people
be looking they be doing that. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
That's the thing is you know someone be like the
kids said that they want to make it professional.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
So yeah, this is the sacrifice we have to do
to you know, make it, make it so you can
be professional. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, I think that a lot of parents nowadays also
they lack some self awareness.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I mean, I think that's unspoken with their kids. How
they're just like I mean, I could.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Say I wanted to be an NFL player when I
was like in third grade, but like at some point
my parents they can be like, yeah, like we support
you in that, like go after it, but at some
point they also need to be self aware of like, Okay,
she's not gonna be in the NFL, like she might
not have the skills or like whatever, like, and you
don't need to project that on your kid. But even
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just understanding that as a parent and being like I'm
gonna let my kid do what they want, but I'm not.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Gonna be like you have to do it.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Mm yeah, that makes sense. You answered that that question perfectly,
you know. All right, now we only got like two
more questions, So I know you got to get out
of here. You gotta get your rest. So for your legacy,
what impact do you want to leave on your program
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by the time you graduate?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I mean you know what your lake you know you left,
you left, you left your mark, you know for years
on end.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, you know what do you want to do while
you're out there? West? Oh? I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I just really want to be like I want people
to remember me, but just being like a good teammate
honestly and like being like honestly all the on court
stuff has created. I mean I can say I want
to like get All Conference Player of the Year, Like
I can say all that, but really, like what is
going to matter and like what people will remember is
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how I made them feel and like the impact that
I had on them within our interactions. And so I
just think that like, within that, I just want people
to be able to see me as like someone reliable,
and like I want to see my coaches to see
me as like being a good example and setting a
good example for the younger.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Players once I get to the upperclassmen level.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
And just like I wanted to become a thing where
like people might like miss me or be like oh cool,
like remember Jazz, like like be like her, you know,
like not necessarily like the best player out there or
like averaging the most points, but just like being a
good teammate and like being there for her team and
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putting everyone everyone else first. So I mean it's kind
of hard to like articulate in words, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
So you so you want to leave a legacy and
with much the same way you left a legacy at
Bonnie Lake.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah. Yeah, yes, I mean I just want to leave
it better than I found it.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah you did that. You did that, Bunny Lake. I
can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
You know, we're just trying to continue your legacy.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You know, you're the one who you showed like cause
I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
I don't know the history before you got there, so
I don't know if there was more girls who went
to play at the next level before I hear the
one girl, but like you never see nothing nowhere.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure if she's playing anymore or
where she is.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm like, unless she was a professional, went professionally now
oh no.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
I mean there was a girl like ten years ago
who went to Western and I think she was pretty good.
But yeah, yeah, she went to Bunny Lake. Her name
was marcel Pounds.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I think I think I heard that. I think that
was her.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah, yeah, I heard it was Marcela and her dad
may have been marself.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Mm yeah, yeah. I don't know if she kept playing
or that, you know.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Wow, yeah that was a good one. Okay, just the
last question right here. Okay, So do you see yourself
pursuing basketball professionally or and coaching of training once you're
done with college.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, I definitely I want to coach, Like that's something
I'm really passionate about coaching and training definitely. I mean,
if I do have the opportunity to play basketball professionally,
like overseas, I think that would be awesome, and I
definitely take whoever up on that. But if that is
not it, then I'll be perfectly find coaching and training.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So you you've been coaching training this summer, I mean
you had a business summer this summer. When you came back,
you know, what, what was one thing you learn from
coaching and what is one thing you learn from training?
Speaker 4 (50:06):
I'd say I learned from training, Like.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Dang, I definitely learned how to like think on the
fly when I was training, because I mean it's I
can write out notes of like this is what we're
gonna do today, but I think honestly, the kid performs
better and feels better about themselves outside of training if.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
I let them leave the way.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And so I say, actually, that's like the one thing
is like letting them leave the way rather than me.
And so that leads me to learning how to think
on the fly. Because if I ask my kid like, hey, like,
what do you want to work on today and they
see something completely different than what I had in mind,
then now I need to think of drills that they
can do to help them with whatever they want. And
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so I think that's really cool, and it's also cool
being able to see and feel the train game the
kids get better. I mean just I treated one girl
this summer and just from our first training to our
last training, I did this ball handling drill with her
every day and she cut her time down from five
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minutes to two minutes and yeah, over the course of
the summer. And so that was cool to see because
it was just like in concrete like a timer and
just seeing her get better was just cool. And you
could like feel it too, how she felt about herself,
Like she looked more confident, like she looked more comfortable
with the ball, and she just like she looked like
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better like as a player. She just liked she was
able to do all these things that she maybe couldn't
have done before she came to train, And so that's
really cool. I'd say coaching. One thing is definitely that
I've learned is like patience. It is just like having patients,
because I mean, it's it's like, I don't know, it's
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hard coaching. I have a lot of respect for coaches
just because there's so many there are so many different
things that come with it and it's really a passion job.
You just have to really love it and you have
to love the game, and you have to love the kids.
And I think that I do and that helps make
it a little easier, but definitely we'll still Yeah, the
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parents are just that's where you have to learn patients,
and you have to also just I feel like when
you're working with kids, because I was working with middle
schoolers this year, you have to have just a lot
of patients because if you're coming from playing college basketball,
like I came in thinking like, yeah, I'm gonna run
up tough college drills, like it'll be great, but like
they are not in college, Like then I have to
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do the same thing that I was just talking about
earlier about not making these kids a workhorse, Like I
have to let them have fun and I have to
try to slide in my little lessons within the fun.
And so I mean, it's definitely patients and having patients
with them that like at that age, progress is not
linear and like it's you're gonna have good days and
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you're gonna have bad days, and you're gonna have girls
that don't show up and you're gonna have girls that
show up every day.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
And so.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Just having patients in that and understanding like you're not
coaching out the w.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
NBA level, But what about what about the the parents
who expect perfection from younger kids.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
I mean, for me, I I just sort of.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I never had any like face to face conversations with
parents who are like why aren't they training like professionals
and like why isn't it perfection? Like, but I mean
I've witnessed like kids who go they go talk to
their parents and like I know from my experience, like
that's gonna be a long car ride home, like your
parent's gonna be in your ear about like you could
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have done this better, like why did you do this?
Speaker 4 (53:53):
Like and the list goes on. But I mean all.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I can do is like I can encourage the kid
and just be like really emphasize like the next day
of practice, like hey, I'm really proud of you for
doing this, like even though like or even saying like yeah,
I know you didn't you didn't play a lot yesterday,
but you did a really good job of like cheering
on your teammates and sort of like.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Just like instilling positivity.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Into them, and like sometimes that even means like saying
things that didn't really happen, like encouraging girls on things
that they didn't even do and like because for them
then it's in their mind and they see it as
a positive thing. Instead of me being that at them,
like I want you to try this and this is
why you're gonna do it, I can just be like, hey,
like I love it when you do this, like this
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is a good thing, and then they see it as.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
Like okay, cool, like that's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I can do that instead of like something that they
feel like they have to do because of the parents.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Are like nitpicking out them.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
So just reminding them that like at the end of
the day, like a coach is a coach, and a
parent as a parent.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
Like parents aren't going to be in the game.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
They can yell the kid from the sideline, but like
a coach really has a final set. And so I
think just getting the kid to like to just be
able to come to you and like understand like why
you are doing things way that you're doing and like
why you're teaching them the.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Things that you're teaching them. It's like the biggest thing
because the middle school.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Kids just want to know why, Like they want to
know the why behind everything, and it makes it so
much better of an experience for you and them if
you just tell them.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Why Like, yeah, okay, So I got one last question
for you if I let you go, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
All the younger all the younger kids, I think I'll
talk to you about this.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Oh, sound like I heard a fan over there. So
what three skills do you think every young kid should
work on from you know, from a young age that
would help them great if they get out.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, definitely, I mean I can group fundamentals altogether. I
mean that's like dribbling, passing, and shooting. I mean, honestly dribbling,
dribbling and passing is, or dribbling, passing and playing defense. Actually,
I feel like a lot of dribbling, passing, playing defense,
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those are all grouped as one because I mean they
have other ones. But like, definitely, just like the fundamentals.
I mean, nowadays, you don't see a lot of defensive highlights.
I mean you're not seeing like crazy steals on overtime
or anywhere. You're seeing like who've scored fifty points in
a game and whatever. But defense wins games and defense
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within championships. So yeah, definitely those three. Another thing I
would say, I'd say definitely just having like a team
first mentality, like see how you can make your teammates
better every day instead of seeing how you can make
yourself better. A lot of kids can work on that
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because I feel like, now, like you said earlier, with
all the like individual trainings and training by ourselves, it's
so easy to just walk into a practice and be like, oh,
it's just like.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
Training, Like I'm gonna work on what I need to
work on.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
But when you really do put the team first, it
changes how you play, and it changes how your team plays.
And if you can spread that to your teammates and
they can come into practice thinking about how they want
to get you better.
Speaker 4 (57:29):
Like you're all getting better.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
And you're like the ceilia is like not there, Like
there's no limits to what a team can accomplish with that.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
But I definitely say the biggest thing that like kids
can work on.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Is just like having a positive mindset. I mean, I
think a lot of people can work on that. I
think I'm still working on that, but just how it
like completely changes how you feel and play. But if
you're having that positive self talk versus having negative self talk,
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I mean there's like studies done all the time that
like just constantly prove that like positive self talk helps
you and negative self talk makes you actually worse. So
I definitely say, like that's like the number one thing
is like just mindset and like actually focusing on it
and taking time to focus on it and learn about it.
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As like some people might think it's like borying or
things that, like it's just extra, but it really does change.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
The way that you play and the way that you
feel and how you act.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
So yeah, so I gotta say, Jazz, thank you.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
For everything that you have done, you know, for us,
Thank you for coming on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
You know, I don't know how many people down here.
You know, I can't tell you how far it's gonna go.
You know, I do have to act. Is there any
you know? I got that? What's next? What's next to you?
The next season? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (59:06):
I mean we played Cal on October twenty eight, That's
what's next.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
I mean I'm hyped about that.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
But yeah, I mean hopefully just continuing to improve.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
And help my team and like have our team make
it far this year.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
I mean I think we could. I think we can
do big things. So I'm really excited personally.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
But yeah, I think that, So.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
I do have to say, you know, thank you once
again for coming on. Wow, I didn't even know we
went for an hour.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Uh. Is there any shout out that you want to
do before?
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, I mean shout out to my family back home,
my sister, Yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
The ships, every one. Definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Well, I guess I can shout out Assie since you
know she's Yeah, I mean it works. Shout out Coach Barb,
shout out kim Ella. I mean, I keep going, but
we'll be here all night.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
What those are the big ones?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, you know, well, congratulations, good luck on your season.
You know when y'all start, you know we're gonna be
rooted for you from up here. You know, tune into
some games and uh to everybody else, thank you for
tuning in to listen to Jazz. You know it's about
the perspective of a college player.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Don't you get to light subscribe and share the episode
when you hear it? Uh, go follow Jazz you want
to put out your Instagram.
Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Jaman Y and them ship is the same as my
last same.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Also shout out to Coach Kyle and the Breakfast Club girls.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Mm there here you go, all right, y'all. You know,
as usually we're gonna wrap it up. Thank you again
for tuning in to this episode. Until next time we out,
we are
From from the All right, so, uh we're back again.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This time I have the elegant jazzman Ship college player
basketball player down at west Mont. You know, she came
on the podcast to drop some gyms on some people
and tell y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
About like her experience and how she got started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Uh. First off, thank you for coming on, Jazz. I
know it was short, it was last minute. I know
you busy, you know. Uh oh yeah, you know. So, uh,
Jazz is like a Hall of Fame player up where
I stay, you know, up in Bunning Lake, up in
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Lake in Washington, the state of Washington. She's down in
Cali right now. I think at the high school she
probably got every accolade you could think of, and she
showed she showed the younger girls that they can make
it from here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So you know, whatever that I am grateful.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Plus, she took my daughter under her wing, you know
when she was a freshman, made the adjustment real easy
for her.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So for that, I'm grateful Jazz. You know, I appreciate you,
of course.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But we're gonna go again to some questions because you know,
she is a college athlete, so they on this tight
schedule and stuff. So Jazz from the beginning, who put
the ball in your hands?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And how did you get started? Then?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean I started playing basketball in first grade. I
played parks and rec. But when I first started, it
started because there were some neighborhood boys down the street
and they had a hoop in their driveway and I
like went down and just like outside as a kid
one day and I went down to ask them if
I could play with them, and they said that I
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was too little and that I wasn't good enough, and
so then I told my mom.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I was like six.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think I told my mom I wanted to play basketball,
and so she signed me up for rec and I
started playing co ed in first grade. Second grade, I
started playing just girls. But it was always been I mean,
it's really been like both of my parents have always
been super supportive of me and playing basketball.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I got my own hoop in my yard in second grade.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So yeah, I guess you could say my parents and
I just like I love basketball, And honestly, I think
I probably started it just because I wanted to prove
people wrong. And I've always been the type of kid
who I played best when I have a chip on
my shoulder. So I guess it's sort of how it
all started cap full circle.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But yeah, so when you get the hoop in your yard,
did the boys come down to play on yoho on
yoh hoop?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
No, they weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It was pretty much just me and my dad training
like he wanted to start his own like basketball academy thing,
which never really happened, but he got all the balls
and everything, and we would go out in the yard
and just train like all the time, like and back
then it wasn't so much of like, oh, like second
graders now, I feel like they're just training like crazy.
But for me, it was just like a fun activity,
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a way to get me to go to sleep at
night because.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Keep me active.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean I was just always an active kid.
So but no, the boys, I never saw them again
until like fourth or fifth grade, but I just remember
that one time. I was just like so upset because
they didn't invite me and said I couldn't play with them.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
By that time they didn't want no part of you. No.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean first grade, first grade, I was taller
than everybody else, so I was already getting all the
rebounds and all those kids were I think they're probably
in third or fourth grade, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I must have hit a growth it or something.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I just remember being like I was like a
baby bird underneath the hoop, just like catching every single
rebound and trying to put it back, put it back,
put it back, probably what like one for ten, but.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, it was. It was funny.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mm is that Anna behind you? What's up? Annay? She
didn't she didn't come to cheat on her homework this year.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
No, she just had our first day of class today.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I would say, because I know, you know all
the answers, so I make sure she ain't cheating down there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, uh well, now that's that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I always wonder who start you in basketball, But then
you know, we gotta go to question number two. Mm hm,
who has been your biggest basketball influence of role?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Probably from the farthest earliest one I can remember was
watching Brianna Stewart at Yukon.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I didn't really start watching like college basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I knew of like Kelsey Plumb and shan Tealosa Whorr
in that whole class like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, back
when they went to made it to the Final four
and stuff at U Dub. But definitely earliest I remember
is Brianna Stewart watching her step through move when she
was at Yukon and like when I was in fifth
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or sixth grade, and I just remember like spamming the
step through like for like two years straight until people
started to figure out how to guard it and then
I had to change things up. But yeah, Brianna Stewart
has definitely been my like biggest influencer role model. I'd say,
like off the court, my biggest role model has definitely
been Like, my high school coaches were great. I mean
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obviously as he is like a great influence and role
model and she's younger than me.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So she don't put her in the jet.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah no, no, no, I'm plugging plug as you jet.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
She never stop talking about this if she heard this.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah no, But yeah, my high school coaches were definitely
one of my biggest role models. In high school, they
just were always there for me and always pushed me
to be better and never accepted anything less than maximum efforts.
So I feel like that has always just really pushed
me and helped me out.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Somm So, do you like a coach who will be
on you or do you like a coach who's relaxed.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I definitely like a coach who For me in high school,
it was sort of the experience of if they were relaxed,
you knew you were doing something wrong because they were
always just on you and you didn't really have that option.
I'd say I definitely like a coach who is just
able to like be okay with me asking questions, because
I'm the type of player like, if there's ever a
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chance for me to ask questions, I'm always asking them
to coach, whether it's in practice or games whatever, about
any players, I'm always asking questions.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So having a coach.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That's able to like help me in that and just
answer my questions. And I think my coach here is
just she's awesome and like really knowledgeable, and she's just like, yeah,
she's a great coach. So I mean she kind of
embodies that, I think, But yeah, I'd say she definitely
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is the type. She's the coach who she's like very enthusiastic,
but she also is able to keep you like calm,
like without she's able to like bring the energy up
without it being chaotic, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So yeah, yeah, So when.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It comes to your role model, what exactly do you
look for in them? Like, are you looking at the
way they play the game? Are you looking at the
way they carry them?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Zoom?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think I'm looking at both.
My role model has sort of shifted throughout the years.
So my early years it was Brandon Stewart and just
like pretty much all how she played basketball. But now
I've sort of shifted in my later I mean not
really later, I'm still like almost yeah, but lately I've
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I've been shifting, And Angel Wilson has been like a
really I think a cool role model for me, even
just like the way that she carries herself with the
amount of like confidence that she has, like in anything
that she does is just absolutely like inspired.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's so inspiring to me. And like having read her.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I read her book this summer and it was like
one of the best books I've ever read, Like it
was just so cool to read and like be able
to relate to her and like see why she does
the things that she does. And so yeah, she's definitely
someone that I would that I looked to as a
role model, like off the court and who is a
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basketball player for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So now so now I got I got a question.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So, you know, in the NBA, when it comes to
people training a lot and practicing a lot, like I
seen how much you practice and train?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Is you know Kobe is like mumble mentality and NBA?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Who is that person in the w NBA who you
think had that mumble mentality?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Who just you know they put in a lot of
work on their game.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh, I mean, I think I would just say she's
just like Eve. Yeah she's a rookie, but I just
think she is just like someone. She may not be
exactly my like role model necessarily just because I mean
we play different positions and it's just like different, but
I just I would sort of say idolize her.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean she's like just she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And I've seen, like I watched like all I don't
know the documentaries and stuff about her and just seeing
like how she works in her work ethic is just
like absolutely crazy. And yeah, I mean there's honestly a lot.
But I feel like the WNBA players, a lot of
them nowadays are really humble, so it's like they kind
of do the like they win in the dark, like
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you don't really see them posting all their like training
highlights and things like that. They're just sort of putting
in the work and then letting it show when they play.
But yeah, members is the first person that I think
would come to mind when I think of like MoMA
mentality like type of player for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Uh So, now you got me thinking, because since you
said the training, you always see a lot of like
me and training to get Yeah, you think it's like
that on the girl's side, one's.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Side, I think it is.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I think it might be a little bit more individualized,
but I think that it definitely. I mean, I think
this is a whole different conversation if you to talk
about like the different types of like publicity and stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think that a lot of times trainers.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Might see the WNBA player and be like, Okay, yeah,
I'll work with her, but I'm not gonna like post
all about it. Trainers see like some of the big
name NBA players, They're like, Okay, yeah, like I'm gonna
put this all over my feet and more people are
gonna see it, and so I think that's a part
of it. I also think that like it depends on
what team you're on and the type of culture that
you were raised personally, like I'm the type of player
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I love to just like train with other people, like
I train better.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's easier.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I mean, it's not easier, it's I like, I feel
like when you're training with somebody else, it's it's a
little bit more challenging when you have someone to like
not compare yourself to, but you can like push.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Each other, and that just I love that better.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I know a lot of players on my team,
like m all the teams I've been on have always
been like super united and just like love to train together.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And so personally, for me, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I know other people who are not raised with
that sort of expectation that they might they might prefer
trained by themselves or if they were in like some
toxic environment where it's like they're now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
See now you got me thinking. So you know, they
got they got like the the brotherhood. But basketball players, don't,
you know, boy basketball players and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Do you think Seattle means sisterhood?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I mean I think I think Seattle as a whole,
like the Storm, I'd say they they're on the up
and up, I think in terms of their organization and
I think that Sue Bird has really like I mean,
she blew up the Seattle Storm like crazy. I think
that like for now, Seattle has sort of not hit
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its peak, but they might be on a slight plateau.
I mean with all the right now, they're the oldest
team in the w NBA, So I mean I think
that they taishood. Yeah, Seattle's oldest team in terms of
like average age.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Of their players right now. Oh yeah, they're the oldest.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So I mean they're sort of in.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Their Lakers era right now.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But I think that that doesn't have to be I
think it's also hard with I didn't know that the
w NBA also does like mid season trades, and so
I think that it can be hard to like build
a sisterhood off of that, just because it's hard to
build chemistry with people if you're only gonna be playing
with them for a week or like a game. And
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so I think that like that could be a part
of it. I think that another thing that could happen
in Seattle that would be cool to see was like
just other athletes supporting athletes, like I would love to
see like Seahawks, more Seahawks players at Storm games and
at Rain games, and I'd like to see Rain players
at Stort like Seahawks games. Like just having that sort
of connection I think would be really beneficial. And like
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I think you would bring everybody up.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Just having that they are the all they preferational basketball
team up here exactly, so you know, and they do
got uh old the I don't even know how to
say her last name, ola, uh yeah, and uh, what's
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the point guard Smith? Yes, Scott. I don't know how
I forgot Scott's name, you know, Yeah, but I mean
that that trade. They just had that girl pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I never paid attention to her when she was at Washington,
but her coming over here, Yeah, that girl nice.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
N w n b A. I'm like, you're tough. I
respect that.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's not easy getting up to that level, just like
it's not easy to getting getting to your level and
playing in college. You realize that everybody don't make it
past high school.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That stuff hard.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So okay, So the next question would be next topic,
how has.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The transition from high school to college ball been?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Man, I feel like that's like that's a crazy it's
a loaded question. I'd say like my freshman year last year.
Saw a sophomore this year, but my freshman year was, like,
it was just hard. I mean, you're I moved away
a thousand miles away from home. I had no friends,
I had my teammates. I went to Africa before the season,
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and like, I had never been away from my family
for ten days, let alone in Africa for ten days
with people that I'd never met before.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And so have you been out the country.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I've been out the country, but not off the continent.
So ive been to like Canada and Mexico. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean that was just a crazy experience in itself,
and it was hard being away from my family, but
it's sort of set the foundation of what college is,
which is being away from your family and meeting new
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people and seeing how other people live. So but I
mean high school to college basketball was a crazy jump.
I feel like not a lot of people talk about,
like truly from athlete to athlete, about how hard it
is once you get to college as an athlete, and
especially when you're playing basketball.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I mean, it takes up most of your time.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You are doing school in basketball, and you're still trying
to be another person because at the end of the day,
basketball is not the end all be all, and so
you have to balance like a lot of things. And
I mean college ball is intense. It's fast. There's not
a lot of like I mean, you either like know
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the plays or you don't.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Like it's and it shows.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's hard to Like in high school, it's easier to
like kind of cover for yourself in a way, like
if you don't know the plays, you send somebody else
on like just like skip it, like it's not a
big deal. But in college it's like you know the plays,
like you need to know it, and like if your
coach sees that you don't know it, like you're gonna
be running up and backs, like there's consequences for your
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actions here. And I'd say it's a huge jump. I
mean overall, I would just say college ball is just faster.
The whole tempo of it is just quicker and harder.
And I mean in high school, at any any high school,
this is true. I mean, if you're the best player
in your high school team and you go to play college,
everyone was the best player on their high school team,
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So I mean it's everyone's good. There's no weak link.
There's like you're competing for everything. But with my college,
I think that one thing that they do that's really
special is they like don't put us against each other,
because I feel like it's easy, like when everyone is
so good to just be like, well, I'm gonna fight
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for a starting spot, like I want to play this
many minutes, I want to score this many points. But
I think here it's really cool that like they really
emphasize not doing that. They say, like this is like
a team thing, and if you're not bought into the team,
then like you can go somewhere else, like our coach
has said, like if if you're not bought in and
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you don't want like to like play a role on
our team or like you just truly don't think that
like this is for you, like I will help you
find somewhere else to go, like, and I think that
that's that's something that's really unique, because if you don't,
like you're more than free to leave, like and coach
will help you. And but at the same time, like
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it's really special that you get to like be with
these girls who you know you all have the same
goal and you all want to do the same thing
and accomplish the same goals and for the same reason, like,
and it's just different from other schools. And I think
that that's really cool and unique to WESMNT and it
can make your college basketball experience way better because you
get way more out of it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So yeah, okay, so aswer this myth, is it easier
playing and a I A D three D two than
D one because everybody say the hardest D one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, from what I hear is no matter what level.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You're at, it's hard because it's a lot of great
players no matter what level you're in.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean I've never played Division one, so it's
hard for me to like speak on that, but I
would say, like from my experiences, I mean I think
that honestly my team and my program, I think that
we honestly train like Division one. I think that our
coach has had Division one coaching experience. She knows it
works and what doesn't She played Division one herself. She
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was a walk on at Oregon and ended up like
working her way up to captain on their team. Like her,
like her whole story is just really cool. But I mean,
just to that point, like she's really knowledgeable and she
knows how how we need to train in order to
be successful, and if that means working as hard.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
As Division one players or harder.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Then like she'll have us do it, and we'll do
it since we're bought in and that's what we sign
up for. So I mean, I don't know if it's
if it's harder or easier. I can't really speak on it.
I've had teammates who say that, like, being at our
school is similar to a D one, And I've also
had teammates who say, like that they went to a
Division one and it was harder. So I mean, it's
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really a toss up. I think it depends on where
you go. But I'd say that, like, we are a
really hard working team here. I can't speak for all
the Division twos, but for the ones that i've I mean,
I've had I've had people who tell me that there's
other Division twos who don't do anything, and I mean,
I think you'd have to look at the really good
Division twos.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I think sometimes, I.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Mean, honestly, some NI A teams will be n I
A I teams will beat Division two's and they'll beat
Division threes, and Division three will beat Division.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Twos like D two's and beat d one.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
So I mean, it's really it's just about where you're
at and which school's at in the culture. But I
mean it's honestly, I think it's all hard. It also
just depends on what your coach's priorities are for you
and the school that you're at and the priorities that
they have for you.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Good, right there, it looked like, you know, you said
this with your first podcast, but it looked like.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You used to getting in the view.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's funny, you know, because I know your mama gonna
be like, that's my girl. Look at you answering those questions.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So the next the next question that I have for
you is what does a typical day look like for
you as a student athlete?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Okay, are we talking like in season or out of season?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Let me see, so you're probably way busy in season,
so let's do let's do in the season.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, in season for me, I'd say I'll give you
like a typical Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Thanks to our Tuesdays and Thursdays look a little different.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But I'd say on an average Monday for me this year,
I don't have an eight am class, which is super convenient.
So I I ye, huh, yeah, I had an eight
a m It wasn't super bad. But I mean, if
I can get extra sleep and I don't have to
take an ADAM class, why not So I I let's see,
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today was Monday, so I mean I woke up, I
got dressed, went to.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
What I do.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I didn't read this morning. I usually read that night.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
But I went to our dining hall for breakfast with
a teammate, and then from there I went to my
first class.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Of the day, which was communications.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
In there, I was in there for an hour, got
out at like ten fifteen. We have our schools a
Christian liberal art school, so we have chapel on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
So I go to Chapel from ten thirty to eleven twenty.
And then from Chapel I have another class which is history,
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a history class.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I had that today.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And then on when yeah, on Monday, Wednesday, Fridays and season.
That takes me up until twelve thirty five. So we
have practice on two fifteen to four fifteen on Monday,
Wednesday Friday, and so at twelve thirty five I'd probably
get some lunch either in my room, we're at the
dining hall. Takes some time to study, just rest, head
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to the gym probably around one fifteen one one twenty,
and then I'll usually get the shooting shooting machine out
in season, get shots up, just warm up, and then
our warm up starts at two o five, So we
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start practice at two o five, go till four fifteen.
And during practice it's just high intensity drills.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
We're running through plays.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We have scout team, we're building and conditioning in there. Yeah,
and then in season we'll have lyft on Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
so that'll be from four to fifteen to five fifteen.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
If it was a game a day.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
A week of a game, we'd usually have film earlier
in the day or in the evening, so after lift
there might be a quick film. So overall, like you
have about a three to four hour trunk of basketball.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
In season with the team per day.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So you have we have twenty hour weeks and we
don't ever hardly push it to the full twenty hours,
I'd say.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
But it can get pretty close.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What about what about class in the in during the season.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Like, do you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Like, could you doing like four hours?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, so did you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Take less classes during the season or do you take
it like this earlier and later.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
No, we take the same amount of classes.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We just have to schedule our classes around practice.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
So it's like, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Can't we can't schedule our class for like between the
hours of two fifteen to four fifteen. But if say
you had a class that was during our lift, typically
you're allowed to like make up that lift if you
need to go to class, then you can like just
come back in on Tuesday and.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Get it done or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They keep with tipts.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's not like attendance.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's more just like everyone wants to do it for
the team, and so it's like you just get it done.
I mean, my team has never I've never met anybody
on my team who doesn't want to make up the
lifts or has tried to get out of it. It's
always just sort of like when can I come in
and make it up because I want to, unless like
you're injured, and then they'll say like no, like don't lift.
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But yeah, and so after our basketball is over, have dinner.
Today I went to the beach, So I just went
from straight from our like conditioning and five on zero
to the beach just jumped in the water real quick,
and then I had some dinner. Then you just have
time in the evening to.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Study, just hang out.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I mean during the week, we're just honestly doing a
lot of studying and working on stuff. And then for me,
my night tube routine is I usually spend some time.
I'll watch a little Netflix. I usually drink kombucha. Have
you heard of chad I had? As you try it once,
It's like a like a probiotic drink. But I usually
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drink one of those right before bed. It is can
it comes in like a yeah, in like a bottle.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Let's see if I have any I can't find any
of my fridge.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But well, what was her face like? And then let
me know if she liked it?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
She did not like it? She was Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Remember seeing it.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, it was so funny. But yeah, I'll usually have
one of those, and I take vitamins. I take those
before I go to bed and usually read a book
until I fall asleep. So and then I'm lights out,
usually around latest eleven.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So what about So you said most of your stuff
is on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. What do you do on
Tuesday and Thursday?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Tuesday like no.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I mean, we have practice on Tuesdays and Thursday too,
but I only have one class on Tuesdays and Thursdays,
so I just go to my one class and then
usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I like to do film
with one of my coaches in season, just to like
tweak things or they see things that I don't, and
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so it's easier for them to nitpick me than it
is for me to do it, because sometimes we all
lack a little self awareness. So I mean, yeah, yeah,
so but Tuesdays and Thursdays it's pretty similar. Honestly, we
just have more more time in the afternoons usually, but yeah,
our practices are from one to three and on Tuesdays
and Thursdays.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and so okay, now I'm asking this question.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I don't want to get nobody in trou Okay, but
now I ask college coaches this, and I ask some
other college players. Now y'all have y'all have four to
seven access to the gym or not?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It depends, honestly, I mean, yeah, we we don't really,
but it's also if you want to get in, you
can figure out how.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Okay, Now, don't get in trouble don't be out, you
will get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But our coaches usually will open it for us if
we want. I mean, because it doesn't count as practice
hours if they're not there, So we're allowed to be
in the gym whenever.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just if someone is there with the key.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Oh so they must stay on campus.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Our coaches don't, but they can like approve set times
like for us to be in the gym and then
like our campus safety will come let us in and
then we.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Can go in.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So just the question that I wanted to ask was,
is even though y'all have that type of access to the.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Gym, probably to the weight room too, right.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Not so much the weight room, but like sometimes yeah sometimes.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
But the thing that I wanted to say was.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
When I always act like the coaches and stuff like, man,
y'all got all this stuff, all these facilities and all
this stuff. I'm like, do kids take advantage of it?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And they be like.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, yeah, yeah, Like y kids don't be they don't
be working like that, you know, like you expect them
to be working, you know, And I'm wondering, is that
the same for like you think for your level?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, I don't I don't think that's the same. I mean,
all of my teammates. There's multiple times, like I'll just
walk into the gym on like Friday night just to
like hang out, or like I'll hear a ball dribbling,
so I'll just go in and it's usually one of
my teammates in there working out, or like really any
time of the day when it's open, one of my
teammates or like one or more of them are always
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in there doing something and I almost always run into
them when whether it's me shooting or them or us together,
Like the open times in the gym are usually always
pretty there's always somebody in there, so I'd say we
I'd say that we take advantage of it. I mean
some some coaches might say, like unless you're doing like
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hard training, that you're really not. But I mean if
you're able to, just like if y'all spare time and
you want to spend it shooting, I don't think any
coach is going to be mad at that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So do y'all Do y'all have open gyms like with
the boys with like the students, like in the mirror students,
Like when you when it's not season time off season
and do y'all just like getting them and just play.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Or even locals like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
How college works, but yeah, can locals come play? Or
I guess I don't even know if you call them
locals no more.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
There's there's some sting of our locals, but I mean
a lot of them are like they probably think they're
a little bit out of their comfort zone on that.
But we actually so we don't scrimmage our like men's
team just because it's like our men's team. It's like
a college men's team, so it's not really something we do.
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But we have a group of students of boys students
called Scout Our Scout Team, and so sometimes we'll host
open gyms with them and they'll like run with us.
They run with us during practice anyways, but sometimes we'll
set up like time outside of that if it's off
season and invite them and say, hey, we have runs
at this time if you guys want to come and
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be real to have you. And so then we're able
to have more of the girls in the same team
instead of like being combined with them and or like
playing against each other.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so a lot of the girls show up,
like the team show up when it's open gym time.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Or yeah, everyone shows up.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's unless like because we usually whenever we schedule open
gyms during our practice time anyways, we're scheduled to not
have class. So unless someone has like a doctor's appointment
or they're off campus for some reason, then they might
not make it. But usually everyone shows up. It's pretty
much expected. And yeah, never likes to play anyways.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
So yeah, but now, okay, this this off topic. But
you know, since you know you're I don't know how
many colleges is around where you're at right now, they're
just your college.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's US and then UCSB and Santa Barbara City College.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So do you do your team ever go out into
the community or like go to like games of younger kids,
or go to the schools anything like that. M hm
do that or no?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, we do a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We do for Halloween, we do this thing called trunk Retreat,
So we go to this one this church and we
like give candy to the kids and they usually love it.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Another thing that we do we've done in the past is.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Like host we host kids camps here a lot, so
a lot some of like kids will come here and
they'll take like summer camps like you have at Bonnie Lake,
and so we will work that if we're in town.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's usually during the summer.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
So this year I couldn't make it because I live
in Seattle, and so it's a bit of a.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Bit of a commune.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's that's that's more than a of a community.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, so, but yeah, we definitely we
get out in the community quite a bit, i'd say,
and we're honestly even working on it now. I'm on
a committee that's like just student athletes in one of
our goals this year is to really get out into
the community more, even more than we have in the past.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I mean, one thing I did that was really cool
last year was I got to work at I forgot
what it's called, but it's similar to like the Red
Cross and Salvation Army, not Salvation Army.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
It's called Santa Barbara, I'm not sure, but it's like
a shelter.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Basically, And so I was able to go serve on
Easter and like work in like the kitchen, like serving
people plates and stuff, and so that was really cool
and I know that, like some of my teammates have
done that in the past and they love it too,
and so yeah, it's cool to get out there and.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Meet people.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Were you able to participate in the Elite camp this
year or when you still you didn't make it back
in time?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We did our Prospect camp the first weekend we got back,
so we had that which was really really fun. I
had a great time. I mean, we were running in it,
we were like coaching, so I mean, I I lost
my voice completely by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
My voice was gone. But like, that was really fun.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And I think that they the kids really enjoyed it
from what I heard, like heard from them and the
way that they seem to respond.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
But yeah, that was that was really fun.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I know I heard you they had I heard they
had some girls from Seattle in it.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, there was a girl from where was Edmonds Woodway
I think, and then another girl who was supposed to
come from Fife, and then a girl from Sumner was
there too.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah. I guess y'all making making the name down there?
Are you the first? You're the first person from Washington
to go with me like play and no one.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of my teammates. My age is from Iaquah. Oh yeah,
they've had they've had girls from Washington in the past.
A girl before I left, she was from Spokane, or
like before I came here, she was from Spokane. And
then now we also have Mercer Island, so I mean
we have yeah, Washington. I feel like our coach likes
to recruit out of Washington. I mean they know Washington plays.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So yeah, there you go. Don't tell them, Jed, tell
them how Washington playing up here?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, all right, so sorry, get off the top of y'all.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know, once you know, a question can lead to
a lot more, you know. But Jazz, any girls who
want to go play at the next level, what tip
would you give some high school kids wanting to play
in common?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I would definitely tell them. One thing I would tell
them is like definitely training quality over quantity. I feel
like one thing that I've seen a lot recently on
social media and like like really everywhere and with my
own eyes. I mean I've just seen kids who are
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like young, young, young kids, like not taking days off,
like working out seven days a week.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
They're working out eight hours a day, like.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Just going full throttle, and I mean I know from
my own experience and also just as someone who like
kind of is able to help enter these kids, is
that like it's not about quantity, and like it's it's
way better for you to get like two hours a
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day of like good hard reps and you're going one
hundred percent rather than going fifty percent for eight hours.
It's just it's better for your game, it's better for
your mental better for your body. I mean, if you're
working out eight hours a day, like your body has
to be screaming for help.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Like it's just it's not healthy. And I've learned that.
I've learned that the hard way myself.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean I went through a phase my like sophomore
in junior year where I was just like on the
grind and I just wanted to quit. And so I
mean I did quit for like three months, but I
loved it too much.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I had to keep going.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But I mean, if that's even in the heads of
these like middle schoolers now, I just can't imagine like
it would be so much harder getting to that level
in college. And I feel like a lot of these
kids see playing college is like the end where they
can like take a deep breath and that things will
be easier when they don't really understand that, like you're
working this hard to continue to work harder, Like you're
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not working hard now to where you can not work
hard later, Like you're going to be working hard regardless.
And so I think that quality over quantity is like
definitely the biggest thing I would say, just it makes sense.
Another thing I would say is like utilizing rest days
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because that kind of goes in with like the quality
quality over quantity, Like.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Can you say that part one more time for somebody
who probably needs to hear what you just say it.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Utilize rest days please.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I feel like I've been a broken record for about
three years, so but I mean I can't. I can't
reiterate it enough. It's just it's it's hard. I mean, yeah,
I just I've seen it, I've witnessed it. I've it's
happened to me. It's not taking rest days is just
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so bad for your body and so bad for your
mental It's just like it's more destructive than anything.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Even if you're like, oh, like I want to play in.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
College and I want to go to the Olympics, and
I want to go to the WNBA and I want
to do all these things. You're not going to be
able to do it if you're working out seven days
a week and you're getting hurt every other week and
you have to take another week off because now you're
hurt or now you're sick. Like it's better if you
work out five days, six days a week even and
you're taking one day a week to just do nothing,
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and then your body can recover, you can mentally recover,
you can continue to have an identity outside of basketball,
which I think is really important that a lot of
kids aren't doing nowadays, and you can just like just
be a better well rounded person and you can still
continue to do those goals, like it's not going to
stop you. And I promise a lot of people have
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the mentality of like, oh, if I'm not working, somebody
else is and like okay, like so what like That's
what I would say, is like who said like they
might be working to get better than you, Like they
might be comparing themselves to you, So why are you
comparing yourself to them?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
And why are we comparing ourselves to anybody?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
It just that's just sort of my take on it.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Is just like I think rest days yeah, rest is
are I mean literally there's Sunday is like called the
Sabbath for a reason. I mean, we're not supposed to
do anything, so why are we out here grinding eight
days a week.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
But then sometimes, but then sometimes you have parents who
be like, if you're not getting ready right now, somebody
else is out there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
We're training to take your spot. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So it's like a lot of parents push their kids
to be like, you know, you can't. You can't tell
a parent that their kids is not going professional after
the first.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Grade, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I feel like, yeah, I've experienced that as a coach too,
where parents.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Are just like that's the part.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That's the part that you know, I'd be wondering, like
if the parents worry about he is getting burnt out,
you know from too much more Like I love ball,
but I do know that you know, some kids get
burnt out, yeah, you know from parents still offended because
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they put in just as much time as this kid,
plus money, so it's like an investment.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah. Yeah, and I think, like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I mean, I'm I'm not a parent, and so I
mean it'll be I'm also self aware. I know that
like if my good kid did play basketball, I'd probably
be the type of parent that's like I want you
to like maximize it. But at the same time, I've
been there as a player, and I think that it's
really hard for parents to like see from a player's
perspective of like like how things are. But like one
(43:44):
thing I would just in parents encourage parents to do
is like be a parent and like allow your kid
to be a kid, Like because your kid is not
like a workhorse.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Your kid's not a racehorse.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Your kid is like this human who has like all
of these interest and like is exploring all of these things.
And like when your kid's really young, like they should
be playing like seven sports, like they have those that
type of energy. Like let them try everything, like make
them try everything. Like I know if I am a parent,
like I like my kid will play every sport under
(44:18):
the sun, and and if they want to eventually decide
that they want to like focus on one, like that's great,
but like like try everything and like just like love
your kid. Bottom line, like your kid wants to be
their parent and not their coach. Like I mean, some
coaches are parents. Some parents aren't coaches, which I think
is that's a whole separate thing. And I think that
can be positive. But if you are not the coach
(44:40):
of their team, then like you it's okay to step
back and be a parent, Like it's it's what you're
you had your kid to like be a parent.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
You didn't have this kid and they came out in
the womb and you were just like that's my workhorse,
Like this is the one, Like they're gonna get us out.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Like no, like you can't think to your kid like that.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So you know how many you know, how many people
be looking they be doing that. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
That's the thing is you know someone be like the
kids said that they want to make it professional.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
So yeah, this is the sacrifice we have to do
to you know, make it, make it so you can
be professional. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, I think that a lot of parents nowadays also
they lack some self awareness.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I mean, I think that's unspoken with their kids. How
they're just like I mean, I could.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Say I wanted to be an NFL player when I
was like in third grade, but like at some point
my parents they can be like, yeah, like we support
you in that, like go after it, but at some
point they also need to be self aware of like, Okay,
she's not gonna be in the NFL, like she might
not have the skills or like whatever, like, and you
don't need to project that on your kid. But even
(45:49):
just understanding that as a parent and being like I'm
gonna let my kid do what they want, but I'm not.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Gonna be like you have to do it.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Mm yeah, that makes sense. You answered that that question perfectly,
you know. All right, now we only got like two
more questions, So I know you got to get out
of here. You gotta get your rest. So for your legacy,
what impact do you want to leave on your program
(46:17):
by the time you graduate?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I mean you know what your lake you know you left,
you left, you left your mark, you know for years
on end.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, you know what do you want to do while
you're out there? West? Oh? I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I just really want to be like I want people
to remember me, but just being like a good teammate
honestly and like being like honestly all the on court
stuff has created. I mean I can say I want
to like get All Conference Player of the Year, Like
I can say all that, but really, like what is
going to matter and like what people will remember is
(47:00):
how I made them feel and like the impact that
I had on them within our interactions. And so I
just think that like, within that, I just want people
to be able to see me as like someone reliable,
and like I want to see my coaches to see
me as like being a good example and setting a
good example for the younger.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Players once I get to the upperclassmen level.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
And just like I wanted to become a thing where
like people might like miss me or be like oh cool,
like remember Jazz, like like be like her, you know,
like not necessarily like the best player out there or
like averaging the most points, but just like being a
good teammate and like being there for her team and
(47:44):
putting everyone everyone else first. So I mean it's kind
of hard to like articulate in words, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
So you so you want to leave a legacy and
with much the same way you left a legacy at
Bonnie Lake.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah. Yeah, yes, I mean I just want to leave
it better than I found it.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah you did that. You did that, Bunny Lake. I
can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
You know, we're just trying to continue your legacy.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You know, you're the one who you showed like cause
I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
I don't know the history before you got there, so
I don't know if there was more girls who went
to play at the next level before I hear the
one girl, but like you never see nothing nowhere.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure if she's playing anymore or
where she is.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I hope not.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm like, unless she was a professional, went professionally now
oh no.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
I mean there was a girl like ten years ago
who went to Western and I think she was pretty good.
But yeah, yeah, she went to Bunny Lake. Her name
was marcel Pounds.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I think I think I heard that. I think that
was her.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah, yeah, I heard it was Marcela and her dad
may have been marself.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Mm yeah, yeah. I don't know if she kept playing
or that, you know.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Wow, yeah that was a good one. Okay, just the
last question right here. Okay, So do you see yourself
pursuing basketball professionally or and coaching of training once you're
done with college.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, I definitely I want to coach, Like that's something
I'm really passionate about coaching and training definitely. I mean,
if I do have the opportunity to play basketball professionally,
like overseas, I think that would be awesome, and I
definitely take whoever up on that. But if that is
not it, then I'll be perfectly find coaching and training.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So you you've been coaching training this summer, I mean
you had a business summer this summer. When you came back,
you know, what, what was one thing you learn from
coaching and what is one thing you learn from training?
Speaker 4 (50:06):
I'd say I learned from training, Like.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Dang, I definitely learned how to like think on the
fly when I was training, because I mean it's I
can write out notes of like this is what we're
gonna do today, but I think honestly, the kid performs
better and feels better about themselves outside of training if.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
I let them leave the way.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And so I say, actually, that's like the one thing
is like letting them leave the way rather than me.
And so that leads me to learning how to think
on the fly. Because if I ask my kid like, hey, like,
what do you want to work on today and they
see something completely different than what I had in mind,
then now I need to think of drills that they
can do to help them with whatever they want. And
(50:54):
so I think that's really cool, and it's also cool
being able to see and feel the train game the
kids get better. I mean just I treated one girl
this summer and just from our first training to our
last training, I did this ball handling drill with her
every day and she cut her time down from five
(51:16):
minutes to two minutes and yeah, over the course of
the summer. And so that was cool to see because
it was just like in concrete like a timer and
just seeing her get better was just cool. And you
could like feel it too, how she felt about herself,
Like she looked more confident, like she looked more comfortable
with the ball, and she just like she looked like
(51:39):
better like as a player. She just liked she was
able to do all these things that she maybe couldn't
have done before she came to train, And so that's
really cool. I'd say coaching. One thing is definitely that
I've learned is like patience. It is just like having patients,
because I mean, it's it's like, I don't know, it's
(52:00):
hard coaching. I have a lot of respect for coaches
just because there's so many there are so many different
things that come with it and it's really a passion job.
You just have to really love it and you have
to love the game, and you have to love the kids.
And I think that I do and that helps make
it a little easier, but definitely we'll still Yeah, the
(52:21):
parents are just that's where you have to learn patients,
and you have to also just I feel like when
you're working with kids, because I was working with middle
schoolers this year, you have to have just a lot
of patients because if you're coming from playing college basketball,
like I came in thinking like, yeah, I'm gonna run
up tough college drills, like it'll be great, but like
they are not in college, Like then I have to
(52:43):
do the same thing that I was just talking about
earlier about not making these kids a workhorse, Like I
have to let them have fun and I have to
try to slide in my little lessons within the fun.
And so I mean, it's definitely patients and having patients
with them that like at that age, progress is not
linear and like it's you're gonna have good days and
(53:04):
you're gonna have bad days, and you're gonna have girls
that don't show up and you're gonna have girls that
show up every day.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
And so.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Just having patients in that and understanding like you're not
coaching out the w.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
NBA level, But what about what about the the parents
who expect perfection from younger kids.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
I mean, for me, I I just sort of.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I never had any like face to face conversations with
parents who are like why aren't they training like professionals
and like why isn't it perfection? Like, but I mean
I've witnessed like kids who go they go talk to
their parents and like I know from my experience, like
that's gonna be a long car ride home, like your
parent's gonna be in your ear about like you could
(53:50):
have done this better, like why did you do this?
Speaker 4 (53:53):
Like and the list goes on. But I mean all.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I can do is like I can encourage the kid
and just be like really emphasize like the next day
of practice, like hey, I'm really proud of you for
doing this, like even though like or even saying like yeah,
I know you didn't you didn't play a lot yesterday,
but you did a really good job of like cheering
on your teammates and sort of like.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Just like instilling positivity.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Into them, and like sometimes that even means like saying
things that didn't really happen, like encouraging girls on things
that they didn't even do and like because for them
then it's in their mind and they see it as
a positive thing. Instead of me being that at them,
like I want you to try this and this is
why you're gonna do it, I can just be like, hey,
like I love it when you do this, like this
(54:38):
is a good thing, and then they see it as.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
Like okay, cool, like that's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I can do that instead of like something that they
feel like they have to do because of the parents.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Are like nitpicking out them.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
So just reminding them that like at the end of
the day, like a coach is a coach, and a
parent as a parent.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
Like parents aren't going to be in the game.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
They can yell the kid from the sideline, but like
a coach really has a final set. And so I
think just getting the kid to like to just be
able to come to you and like understand like why
you are doing things way that you're doing and like
why you're teaching them the.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Things that you're teaching them. It's like the biggest thing
because the middle school.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Kids just want to know why, Like they want to
know the why behind everything, and it makes it so
much better of an experience for you and them if
you just tell them.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Why Like, yeah, okay, So I got one last question
for you if I let you go, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
All the younger all the younger kids, I think I'll
talk to you about this.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Oh, sound like I heard a fan over there. So
what three skills do you think every young kid should
work on from you know, from a young age that
would help them great if they get out.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, definitely, I mean I can group fundamentals altogether. I
mean that's like dribbling, passing, and shooting. I mean, honestly dribbling,
dribbling and passing is, or dribbling, passing and playing defense. Actually,
I feel like a lot of dribbling, passing, playing defense,
(56:25):
those are all grouped as one because I mean they
have other ones. But like, definitely, just like the fundamentals.
I mean, nowadays, you don't see a lot of defensive highlights.
I mean you're not seeing like crazy steals on overtime
or anywhere. You're seeing like who've scored fifty points in
a game and whatever. But defense wins games and defense
(56:45):
within championships. So yeah, definitely those three. Another thing I
would say, I'd say definitely just having like a team
first mentality, like see how you can make your teammates
better every day instead of seeing how you can make
yourself better. A lot of kids can work on that
(57:07):
because I feel like, now, like you said earlier, with
all the like individual trainings and training by ourselves, it's
so easy to just walk into a practice and be like, oh,
it's just like.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
Training, Like I'm gonna work on what I need to
work on.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
But when you really do put the team first, it
changes how you play, and it changes how your team plays.
And if you can spread that to your teammates and
they can come into practice thinking about how they want
to get you better.
Speaker 4 (57:29):
Like you're all getting better.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
And you're like the ceilia is like not there, Like
there's no limits to what a team can accomplish with that.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
But I definitely say the biggest thing that like kids
can work on.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Is just like having a positive mindset. I mean, I
think a lot of people can work on that. I
think I'm still working on that, but just how it
like completely changes how you feel and play. But if
you're having that positive self talk versus having negative self talk,
(58:05):
I mean there's like studies done all the time that
like just constantly prove that like positive self talk helps
you and negative self talk makes you actually worse. So
I definitely say, like that's like the number one thing
is like just mindset and like actually focusing on it
and taking time to focus on it and learn about it.
(58:25):
As like some people might think it's like borying or
things that, like it's just extra, but it really does change.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
The way that you play and the way that you
feel and how you act.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
So yeah, so I gotta say, Jazz, thank you.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
For everything that you have done, you know, for us,
Thank you for coming on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
You know, I don't know how many people down here.
You know, I can't tell you how far it's gonna go.
You know, I do have to act. Is there any
you know? I got that? What's next? What's next to you?
The next season? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (59:06):
I mean we played Cal on October twenty eight, That's
what's next.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
I mean I'm hyped about that.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
But yeah, I mean hopefully just continuing to improve.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
And help my team and like have our team make
it far this year.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
I mean I think we could. I think we can
do big things. So I'm really excited personally.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
But yeah, I think that, So.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
I do have to say, you know, thank you once
again for coming on. Wow, I didn't even know we
went for an hour.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Uh. Is there any shout out that you want to
do before?
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, I mean shout out to my family back home,
my sister, Yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
The ships, every one. Definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Well, I guess I can shout out Assie since you
know she's Yeah, I mean it works. Shout out Coach Barb,
shout out kim Ella. I mean, I keep going, but
we'll be here all night.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
What those are the big ones?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, you know, well, congratulations, good luck on your season.
You know when y'all start, you know we're gonna be
rooted for you from up here. You know, tune into
some games and uh to everybody else, thank you for
tuning in to listen to Jazz. You know it's about
the perspective of a college player.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Don't you get to light subscribe and share the episode
when you hear it? Uh, go follow Jazz you want
to put out your Instagram.
Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Jaman Y and them ship is the same as my
last same.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Also shout out to Coach Kyle and the Breakfast Club girls.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Mm there here you go, all right, y'all. You know,
as usually we're gonna wrap it up. Thank you again
for tuning in to this episode. Until next time we out,
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