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Hello and welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We are back. This is Garage
Rock the Podcast. My name isk Ken and my name is Barbie.
Kenn and Barbie, we're jumping onthe Barbie Himer. We're all about it.
You're kin, No, let's notbe today silly. I'm Ken and
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this is Stefania as usual. Joinme on the micro telephone. Stefania.
How are you, Stefania? I'mgreat, Ken. Can we please drop
the names? His name is Stefania. Gotta Crushanya, Stefana, gotta Crushanya?
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Isn't it where E stabs it witha compass in the arm? Has
he had a crush on it?Hey? Sonya? Yes? Lane Woodley,
yes, Sonya. I was.I was driving around at work the
other night listening to that. ThenI feel like having a laugh, But
I feel like listening to music.Rodney Rude wasn't doing it. So yeah,
Lean and Woodley sing songs came tomind and so fucking funny it is.
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It is classic classic Extrane comedy.But you you are Cam. I
am Cam and joining me as alwayshis uncle Stefania, Uncle Spenny aka Steve,
thank you for having me Cam.Yeah, but the things we are
back. It's we had a anunexpected break, but we've we've patched things
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up. Ye. One thing ledto another and we're here. Yeah.
No, I mean it was itwas a bit of just crazy timing.
I mean you you went off toBali. Yeah, I moved house.
I'm now leaving even further away fromyou, which makes all this time spent
with you all the more. Howlong did it take you to get Oh,
if i'm going down going down thetollway, it's like an hour.
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Otherwise it's like about an hour quarterYeah really yeah? Yeah? What did
you do in the drive? Howwas it was good? I m listen
to music. Yeah, it's fun. I abused drivers next to me.
That's always a bit of fun goingthrough the No, no, no,
just just verbally ABU wouldn't sexually abusethem, That's that's crazy. We'll give
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you that Weinstein of an idea becauseyour name, miss Stefana. And yeah,
well I'm not Kevin Spacey unless youwant me to be. That's what
I said. I mate from work, Casey. His name is uncle Kasey,
and we call him Kevin Spacey.We call him Kevin Spacey. Yesterday
to you and what did he doto you? In return, he goes,
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Oh, that's nice of him.I like to bring out the sillies
in people, Steve, because otherwiselife is so monoyously boring, and that's
why we do this podcast and Iget to be silly the whole time.
So yeah, Steve, Yes,from the bottom of my heart, I
deeply thank you for that with meall these years of just talking crap like
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it's a good outlet to get itall out. And if someone gets a
laugh out of it, then evenbetter. If people think we're stupid,
than even better. Yeah, andfrom the heart of my bottom, I
accept, I accept your your thanks. Well, I mean we're eating heart
of your bottom. Yes, andsometimes it does throb. Anyway, We've
got a big show, our returningshow. And aneurysm in the arts is
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that? Is that even possible?And asurism? Is that what you're talking
about? Would that be a hemorrhoidname? It could be that would be
more a clot Yeah, we're offtopic. We're off topic, perfect exactly.
So we do have a lot totalk about, though this is going
to be a three hour We're justwe're just going to four ship. Well,
I mean We're just going to keepgoing until the tape runs out.
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Steve, we need to pour morewine that tastes like wine slash vagina.
Okay, I say that because youasked me to smell the wine and it
doesn't smell quite right. So justletting it breathe a bit first before you're
a bad influence on me, Steve. I'm not drinking midweek these days,
and here we are drinking midweek,but a couple of sailors. That one's
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a fresh bottle of wine, likeyou saw me open it with my own
buttole yes, and maybe that's whyit smells like maybe, but the one
before didn't smell And when you willopen that the same way, you offered
me that one as well. Ihad some of that and it didn't smell
like buttole maybe too much. Talents, talons, talent, tannons, tannins.
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Talents is what we've got. Alwaysget that mixed up tannons and talents,
Oh dear, But we've got alot to talk about. So the
last time we spoke, we weretalking about going to see the Long Necks.
The long Necks slash by living inYes, which feels like a lifetime
ago. Now, Steve, Wellyou were thirty seven back then. You're
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no longer than ain't Yeah? Yeah, happy birthday camp, thank you to
keep from my present. You're ummoving along clear. Don't even drink anything,
I know you just look. That'sthat's that's how bad the smell is
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on my own talent. Influenza,Oh well you had it? Yeah,
well that was another thing that keptus away. It was you had the
flu. You came back from Balley, you had the Barley belly. I
didn't get the Bally belly. Justdid really, Yeah, it was awesome.
That's good. Um. I apologizeto Bally for saying that they gave
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you the Bally belly. Yeah.Well, just just don't eat or drink
anything over there and you're fine.So cool. What's a lot of weight
it's called Daniel Johns would have lovedit over there. Sorry, sorry,
keep going. How was your trip? Open? Fuck? It was?
It was awesome, man, itwas yeah, man, see how I'm
like real worldly now man? Yeahthat's how you had like influenza A yeah,
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yeah, well I reckon. Wegot it on the plane on the
way back. Isn't it funny though, Steve? Like we did so many
cool things and so many positive things, and the negative thing is what we're
talking about. First, I loveit. Yes, that's human nature.
It's in our blood, Steve,it's in our genes to pick out the
negative, to find that sabertooth tigerback, in our ancestors, to find
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the negative to survive. While youwere saying that, all I could imagine
was the band Human Nature singing negativeone by slipknot the negative one. Need
me because I don't know. Yousaid, it's human nature and negatives.
No, that's where my fucking brainwent. Wow, that's awesome. This
is what we need to see moreof what your brain sees. It needs
to be projective of God. No, No, that's God. No,
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that that's that's a terrible idea.That is a terrible idea for everyone involved.
So what people say when when theytalk to me about the podcast,
you know, friends and stuff likethat. You know the three friends that
listen to it, You've got threefriends. Yeah, man, can you
believe it? They say some ofthe stuff you guys come up with.
I'm like, you should hear someof the stuff we don't say or don't
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put on there. Yes, exactly. So, so just wrapping up the
intro as we've as we've got it. So we've gone to we're talking about
the Long Necks and then we didn'ttalk about them talking about Barley, then
we can we talk about it andwe're talking about savor Tooth Tigers and that
didn't happen either. So what arewe going to talk about? First came
you? You tell me, Ithink we're a bit excited. Well,
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I think we are the first thing. We've been in the room together for
like what almost three months? Wecan't get words out. I know.
That's how excited Vagina wind Youth thereis that. Um, the long Necks,
man, we've got to talk aboutthem, man, absolutely U.
Yeah. So living in Cherry BarMelbourne packed house, Um few Brittany be
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Is. I did get a littlelost. I didn't realize that the Cherry
Bar had changed venues from a CDsing lane m But yeah, we um,
we got there, had a fewbeers watched the first band Absolutely packed,
wasn't Steve shoulder to shouldering, heaving, heaving and the Long Necks come
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on play a bunch of new newsongs. Are living in trying out new
stuff? Yeah, pretty much.It's it's a trial and it was freaking
awesome to seem live again. Itwasn't. I haven't seen it for a
while now. I can't remember thelast time I've seen it to Day on
the Green a couple of years agoor something like that, which is disgusting.
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That's a band that i'd see everyweekend. Yeah, if you had
the chance. Um, But yeah, new Stuff was rocking classic Living in
Christiny guitar solos, Yeah, Scotton slapping the bass in the bass and
he's track and just slapping the drumsand slapping going around. And then they
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took requests. Oh yes, that'sright. They started asking the crowd for
requests for Living In classics. Yeah, and look, Steve, I don't
know if it's a coming out ofCOVID thing like we've been out for a
while now, but people, thecrowd was passionate, shall It's one way
of putting it. Yeah, thecrowd was very passionate. They were they
were very much looking forward to certainsongs being played and they weren't scared.
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They weren't too scared and being vocalabout that, were they. That's true?
So obviously, yeah, you know, the hits were getting requested some
obscure songs we're getting requested, andone of their great songs, Live Uncle
Harry, was requested. And thecrowd were yelling out, ellen out,
and they were getting a little rowdy, weren't they, Stevens. Things were
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getting a little rowdy. But ChrisSheeney, he was he was handling it
quite well. He's handling it quitewell, and it's sort of got a
little over the edge, and hesort of pulled it back a bit by
saying, Okay, you're getting alittle rude now, yeah, or something
like that. It's getting a littletoo much now, which she respects was
true, did it? And itwas? It was anyway, they yelling
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out, yelling out, and itsort of went a little bit quiet for
a second, and this lady yelledout, you better play fucking Uncle Harry.
I've driven all the way from fuckingSydney. You play Uncle Harry now,
and everyone in the crowd just wentthat. Lady meant business, didn't
she She did, And the bandfelt it because they were just like,
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okay, okay, um, hisUncle Harry went into it, and then
that was it and then they finished. Yeah, they played it, and
they hit it out of the ballpark. Of course is that right out of
the ballpark, Get out of thepark, hit out of the ballpark,
park, normal park. They absolutelykilled it. Anyway, Steve and I
were like, oh this, yeah, great gig. And we're like,
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oh, we got got a biton tomorrow. Let's let's head out.
And as we're about to head out, who's in the crowd? Steve the
angry woman from before? Yeah shewas still there, Yeah bitch. Anyway,
who else was there? Mister KRUSHENIhimself straight out into the crowd.
I'm like, I gotta say whenI'm s got selfie and that didn't we
Steve and and I said, um, obviously awesome gig, like thoroughly enjoyed
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it. Listening to Guara dropped podcast, he said what I said, don't
worry. I said, you handledthe crowd really well. And he's like,
I don't know what you're talking about. The well apparently because we went
on the first night, but thesecond night a fight broke out. Oh
really, yeah, I didn't seethat. Yeah, apparently a fight broke
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out in the crowd. Like theyplayed a few extra songs and I think
they ended with Uncle Harry. Somaybe that check from Sydney was still there.
I'm still down from Sydney, Soplay fucking Uncle Harry. Maybe that
was in the curtain for the nextnine or something. Oh wow, but
um yeah, fantastic gig. Andthen that's right because I had tickets slowly
slowly that night at the Forum,that's right, Yes, and had to
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had to palm them off because Icouldn't miss the beloved looking end of course,
and forgot I had the slowly slowlytickets. So we walked past the
Forum, didn't we, Stephen,We saw the guys out the back and
said allo, and got a littleselfie with them too. Yeah, exactly.
We told them that we weren't actuallyat their gig, but got photos
with them anyway. Yeah, givesshit. But they're they're touring again with
stand Atlantic, one of the garagerock favorites we interviewed stand Atlantic. Yes,
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so make sure you check out regionaltour, I believe. Yeah,
they're playing in Frankson locally, whichis what three four hours from where you
are now or something. Yeah,yeah, it's it's a couple of states
across me. Yeah, it's it'snothing. Who's counting, who's counting?
Speaking of the forum. Yeah.So I went to a gig a few
weeks ago, Uncle Pete Murray,Uncle Pete another friend of guard Rock.
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Yes, I went to Pete Murray'sBest of tour. Yeah, and that
was a fantastic time as well.He played all the hits. I was
hoping, Yeah, you weren't goingto say he'd seen better days, but
well I did see better days becausehe ended with better days of course.
Awesome. Yeah, and it wasgood. It was yeah, all the
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hits and did a full band orwas it just him and guitar or full
band? Full band? It was. He started off acoustically in the crowd.
Oh cool, So you know youknow where the all those seats are?
Yeah, so he was, hewas there. I was like,
oh, turned around, now there'sUncle Pete in one of the little walk
rows in between the lounge. Sohe played there and then he went back
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in and that that took about halfan hour to get through the crowd and
then got in and then he juststarted playing hit after hit after hit.
But it was always really good.But actually he did as I said,
he finished with better days. Buthe was telling us a story before he
went into it, and he saidhe I'm dedicating this song to myself,
which bands don't do that enough.They'd ever dedicate songs of themselves these days.
Oh that's it's not about everyone,No, it's about me, damn
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it. So he's saying he wasrecently playing a festival out in regional Victoria
or something like that, and caughtthe bus there and they're all traveling out
in this bus with other artists andhe's like, oh, look, I'm
feeling a bit crook. He's like, I'm just my stomach's just in knots.
I just do not feel well atall. He goes up to the
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bus driver. He's just like,as soon as we get to town,
can you just drop me off andI've just got to go throw up somewhere
and then I'll just meet you allat the festival. Yeah, no,
no worries. A couple of minuteslater, goes it's just like, I
need you to pull over the busnow, right, And so anyway,
he goes to turn to the busthe doors and as he does that,
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he vomits all over the doors andjust all down in front of himself and
everything in front of Renee Gayer MarshaHines like all of these like you know,
well respected Australian musicians, and he'sjust they're covered in his own vomit
and he's just like, so I'vebeen told since that the bus has to
fully stop before the doors came actuallyopen, so it's just like just vomited
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all over himself. So he said, I'm dedicating this song to me,
and he started playing Better Days andthen he got halfway through it and realized
that all of the lyrics aligned withhaving vomited on yourself, like just lyrically,
and he started laughing. He's justlike, you know, felt deep
inside, held it in my handsand all kind of stuff. It was
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like, so he's just laughing.And then that took me back to my
interaction with Pete Murray when I vomited. I was sitting yeah, yeah,
the one time we had a onetime because he wasn't keen to do it
again. When I had an interviewwith uncle Pete Murray and I'd had some
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breakfast that didn't it well, andhalfway through the conversation while he was still
talking, and I'm like, I'mjust scanning the room for a bucket or
something, and I couldn't find anything. And then As soon as he finished
talking, I'm like, that's great. Yeah, pek, I just I'm
going to vomit. So can wereschedule all the rest of this interview?
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Okay? Thanks by? And thenyeah, it was just poor. That
was not great. Did you reschedule? Yeah, we rescheduled a couple of
days later and we finished the interviewand it was up on Gary Drock.
I don't know. It's probably theresomewhere in the ether of the internet,
or to be there somewhere. Yeah, oh, everything's there. Just love
the lapel mic on and spew andhear the spew like record the spew.
Well, I thought I had alapel mic on, but it was actually
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a bit of baked bean that wasjust on my shirt. What do you
have for breakfast? I think itwas some dodgy avocado. If I'm going
to be honest, it was alittle bit brownie. Well here's the thing.
I love avocado. I used toeat avocado all the time, and
then all of a sudden in mymid twenties, allergic to it. I
cannot eat it. Really. Yeah, if I have a cardo have a
motorbike here, Yeah, because youcan't have a cardo Jesus Christ. That
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was terrible. No, but no, I just can't. In fact,
I had some of the other night. It was made me sick. Oh
really yeah, yeah, don't tellEdie or my daughter that, because she
loves her avocados. Well hopefully shedoesn't become allergic to them later in life.
No, no, no, Butspeaking of gigs, there are plenty
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coming. Oh, my Lord andSavior Stephen Christ, I can't believe it.
Well, where do we start?We want to write off some off?
Well, I mean, I guessone of the biggest ones to announce
the the Taylor Sweet note food Fightersare coming back to Australia. Who will
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be gonna see? I did.I didn't think it was going honestly,
didn't think it was going to happen, Steve. I thought since Taylor's so
I was about to say Taylors Sweetas well, since Taylor Hawkins died,
I didn't see it happen. Again, But seeing the tribute and it was
going to happen, wasn't there.Yeah, they're not the kind of people
to sort of I guess let thingsrest and the new album, but here
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we are that, I mean someof the tracks off that are very much.
She can just hear that they're they'rewritten about Taylor. And also like
Dave Grohl's mum passed away as well, So there's a ten minute song on
there called the Teacher which is abouthis mum, the Teacher and her passing.
So yeah, the album closer Restis a very deep song as well.
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So there's a lot going on inthe food Fighter world, and so
why not keep it going? Likeyou've spent that many years building this thing,
I suppose if you still love it, keep keep going. Absolutely,
you'll always find a way. Sotrue. When is that gig? Yeah,
forget that December. So we've gotone show in each of the major
cities still before Blink still four blinkone eight two is still considerably a few
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months ahead of that. Two showsin Melbourne, and I've got myself tickets
to two of them in the frontsection with you for one of them.
High five four four Jesus, highfive for Jesus, it would be fun.
I don't think Jesus high fives well, I think he just fingers his
palm anyway. And then we've gotthe I'm going to do another gig with
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my brother, but in the inthe back section. So you didn't need
to hear that, but you've justheard it. So looking forward to that
food fight. I'm doing that withBlank. I'm up the front for the
first gig, and then I thinknight three. There's five ninths five shows
they just added it, yeah,the fifth show recently, I think nine
three. We're sitting up somewhere withthe kids, taking the kids so lovely
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experienced some family experience. They canlearn learn the words, you know,
like shit, pierce and fuck,can't cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, turd
what Yeah, right, so whynot why not something the whole family can
enjoin. Yes, a bit likeincest. And also we've got Grinspoon,
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the twentieth anniversary of New Detention andEasy by doing the Easy Detention. You
brought that up because I almost forgotto mention the New Detention. You're a
hardcore fan if you even remember,if you can remember that, you're a
hardcore fan Forum as well as theForum. Yes, yeah, I feel
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like we just saw them not longago at the Forum. Yeah. That
was just that was their Chemical Heartstour. That was the Greatest Hits tour,
Greatest hits, est hits. Yeah. So they released the Greatest Hits
only on vinyl, and it wasjust an excuse to do a tour pretty
much. But they've also available forpre order. You can get both Easy
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and New Detention on vinyl. I'vegot my pre orders in. I'm looking
forward to that should be arrive andremember that they're getting very recorded. Did
you see m Phil Jamison, ChrisSheeny, Josh Pike and Tim Rogerson doing
the Beatles Wide Album album again,which we went to that many moons ago,
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Like I think it was like eightyears ago or something, Oh,
possibly longer, I can't remember.Maybe it could have been seven. I
don't know. I remember the firstyear I started that part of my job
and I was about eight years ago. Um that was at Hamer Hall.
Yeah yeah, well yeah they're doingit again and I just want them to
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do abbey Road. Someone else didabbey Road. I think the Australian Rock
Collective did that, or maybe itwas someone else there was there was like
another four musicians doing it. Yeah, I can't remember who it was now,
But I couldn't go to that eitherfor some reason. There's just so
many good things on Steven were sobusy you could only do so much in
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this time and the age in thisage, and I also had to start
saying no to gigs because I've beenbuying so many freaking tickets because guess what
interest rates? Sorry what? Gyroscopeand Hooty jarre doing a co headlining tour
fifteen Years of Breed Obsession for Gyroscope, which I love that album, Steve.
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They see that as even though they'vegot Sound Shattering Sound before that technically
their first album, but they seeBreed Obsession as their proper first album because
they've always said, you know,sound Shattering Sound is basically a compilation of
their EPs plus a few extra songsand sound shattering Breed Obsession, you know,
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produced by Mark Tron Beaner at thattime, was like on Fire,
that was Bleed American, Jimmy eatWell that was Blink on eight two pants
and Jack nah self titled Yep.I'm pretty sure he did that memories Yeah,
living in Modern Artillery. Yeah yeah. So there's all that sort of
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sort of sound, so um yeah, I'm going to that another gig.
I'm looking forward to a Dazy deathRays. They're doing their national tour off
the back of their album r IF F. Remember it's for fun.
Where where are you seeing them?I'm seeing them at the Corner Hotel.
It's going to be fantastic debt.It's almost been a year since we saw
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DZ Death Rays in Tweensland. That'sspecial, Tweensland just right to say bye
bye to violence. So hi,yeah, well I'm going to say it's
it's it's been half a year sofar. I'm tossing up between best album
of the year so far being DAZDeath Rays, r I F F Riff
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or Queens of the Stone Age isin Times New Roman. Um. So
those are my two top albums I'mtossing up between. I look like I
was just juggling a pair of titsby doing that, but I wasn't.
I had albums in my hands.My mate says that all the time Good
Times New Roman like the font.Yes true, so yes, So I'm
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very much looking forward to seeing somenew tracks from DZ at the Corner Hotel.
So if they've got plenty of ticketsstill available for all those shows,
they're doing heaps of them around thecountry, so hit them up on their
website their socials, gets yourself sometickets. They are amazing live and also
the bass player from Violence Soho isnow playing bass for DZ Death Rays.
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That's all awesome, isn't it.Yes, I love that it's still working.
Yeah, great, well it's it'sI mean, got bills to pay.
Interesting, surely it's about time forViolence SOHO reunion tour. I think.
So it's been it's been a while. It's well, it's been almost
a year. September it will bea year since we saw them. God,
it feels like a lifetime ago.It really does, isn't it.
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Yeah. Oh, I forgot tomention the new detention. And also after
the Pete Murray show, was askedto join a cult. Now that was
something that I wasn't anticipating. Ithought, you're already in one. No,
it wasn't. I in one youtold everyone I'd joined a cult.
You joined a cult, but youjust went to Bali. So that was
that was It's pretty much a cultbecause every every Australians over there at the
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moment pretty much have been over thererecently. I've never been there. It's
never really interested me. Oh mygod, me either. It was my
first time. I'd never been thatinterested. And I understand now why people
keep going back. Yeah, Yeah, enjoyed it that much. It's something
for everyone, Steve. Yeah,I enjoyed it. Something for Cam,
something for Kate too. Really,I set him up, you knock him
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down. I knock him up,you put him down, indeed, But
no, so I m so.I went to the Pete Murray Show with
my partner. Yeah, meet Parryand we're on the train home. Just
that sounds like you know when yougo to the when you go to the
servo for like a servo pie,You're like, oh, I might get
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the steak pie, or maybe geta saucy droll, or maybe I'll get
a meat pury, a meat purry. I'd be disappointed if they don't get
branded meat puries from now on.I'd get this one. But it seemed
better day delicious. So partner andI we'll get on the train, we
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sit down and we're just we're justlooking on their phones, just whatever,
as you do better than talking toeach other. I suppose, Well,
what's what's the point of human connectionanyway when you can just do it on
a phone and not be connected exactly? I was texting her that exact same
thing while we're sitting there. Anyway, and this woman comes down. She
sits in front of us, andI'm like, oh, yeah, whatever,
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just sitting on my phone, andshe'says like, how's your night been.
I'm like, oh, okay,yes, I'm like, oh yeah,
all right. Now I'm socially awkward. I'm I'm an introview I don't
know, I believe me. Idon't like talking to people, which is
why I'm in this industry of interviewingbands and talking to you. I'd like
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to get out of your comfort zoneexactly, but I don't like to do
that in front of people I don'tknow, slash like. So I'm sitting
there and it's just how's your nightbeen, I'm like, oh, yeah,
good. I didn't get like goyou know kind of thing. And
she was just wanting to know everythingshe wanted to just closing questions, and
she kept asking questions about us thatlike, myself and my partner, So
how did you guys meet? Sowhat was it about each other that you
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know, drew yourselves to each other? So what common interests do you have?
So? And I'm just being awkwardas fuck because that's just what I
do, and every pose I sortof did, like if I put my
arm a certain way against the window, and I'm like that she mirrored it.
And then if I put my handstogether, she mirrored it. I
was, this is this is justa sucking doing this right. So She's
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asking us all these questions, andEmily's asking her the same questions back,
just throwing them back at her,just like oh, yeah, well you're
married you yeah, I know.And she's very good at it. I
mean, she can small talk withthe best of people. You've met her.
I know, she's had to speakto me. Ye, she she
likes you. She likes you morethan me. Less that are made of
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somewhat, i'd know, cotton possiblyanyway. Um, so we're talking and
said, oh, oh, areyou married? And she said, oh,
yeah, we've been married for aboutsix months, you know. And
I met him like a year agoand I'm moving forth and I've moved out
to Hamilton in Regional Victoria. RegionalVictoria another red flag, yes, And
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so I was like, okay,so how do you meet. Well,
let's say we both have the sameviews about medicine, and we found a
Facebook group that caters to both ofour beliefs or medicine, and so my
partner's just like, oh, so, so what does that mean? Well,
we don't sort of think about bandaid medicine per se, Like,
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if you've got something wrong with you, what is it that's actually wrong with
you? Do you need a bandaid? Or is it a demon in
your head? And it's okay.I mean, there's a slight jump between
needing a band aid for a cutor in your head telling you that you've
got a cut. Did the demondo that to you? Did it?
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I'm trying to get this out ofher, and she's she's saying that a
demon could tell you that you havea cut, but you don't actually have
a cut. Therefore you don't needthe band aid. You needably see to
the said demon in your head exactly. That's that. I'm pretty sure that's
what. No doubt some people dohave demons in their heads. I'm sure
that they do, yes, AndI would not prescribe those people band aids.
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No, no, So therefore sheis correct with that or something a
little stronger than that. Yes,yes, so she's asking it so and
then eventually she told us she wasgetting off the stop before us, so
we knew that her pitch was goingto have to come soon, like she's
she's leading up to something, andso she's just like, well, you
know, we've kind of got thisthing out in Hamilton, a bunch of
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us. It's so it's so exactly. So she's saying, oh, oh,
we just talk about things and we'rereally good and it's such a great
community. And I was just like, huh kind of like a cult and
then she said, oh no,we don't like using that word. I'm
like, so it's a cult andthats it. That confirms it. And
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anyway, so she's like, so, just just made me think about it.
And she asked us our names andall of our details. She didn't
give us hers, and we're justlike, so what do we do to
sort of joy this cult? Shouldsorry this not cult? Um? Should
we be interested? Just go toHamilton? Excuse me? Can you introduce
me to the local pharmacist? Isthat how it works? Um? So
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anyway, then she's say interesting onthe train on the train and we said,
oh, look at your stop.Is he it's it's like fuck off
kind of thing, like yeah,and she's just like oh yeah, yeah,
good point, okay, and thenshe went to walk off and she
grabbed her husband who had walked onat a separate door and sat with someone
else to join and convince convinced themas well to join exactly. So this
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was a whole recruitment thing where theywere just sitting separately to you know,
get followers to that. I waswondering, what that on your forehead was?
Is that a part of No?No, no, no no,
it's a birthmark that just looks likea swastika. It's fine, it's nothing,
it's nothing serious. And how isCharles. He's great. Yeah,
the whole family all fine. They'redoing swell with're Actually they relocated to Hamilton.
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So how did it end? Didthey get off the train or did
you join or did you ask morequestions? They got off the train and
they seemed very sort of like theyhad this look of success in their face,
that's successfully recruited, recruited, recruited. And then I sort of turned
around and looked at the guy sittinga couple of rows behind us who'd been
talking to the husband, and hejust had this look of bewilderment on his
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face. He was like not quitesure what happened. It was. It
was almost like he just had likean enemy although the enemy happened from It
wasn't a medical exam. It wasa relief of the devil kind of enemy,
you know those through the as.Yeah potentially, yeah, so yeah,
weird. Go see Pete Murray.Haven't got she'd never heard of Pete
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Murray. By the I was anotherred flag. She hadn't exquise me because
she said, oh, yeah,we went to a gig. Oh what
did who did you see? PeteMarry? Who's that? She was on
the train eating a meat party.She was eating a meat party. I
knew it. You know who gavethat meat? Parry Satan, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, always he's alwaysthere, he's always. Oh man,
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you just attract the crazies in thetrains. But this ain't the first crazy
conversations you've had, Like you've justgot that must have that face that you
got a face like a slapped Askwhere I'll talk to that guy he wants
to hear about me. Cult.It's not a cult. It's a way
of thinking. That was it.That's how she described it. It's not
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a cult. It's just a bunchof people who have our own way of
thinking. What about all those peoplethat had the you know, the suicide,
the mass suicides. They all Jonestown, you know, they they were
all thinking the best way to getrid of a hangover is cool Aid drink,
the cool laid, the cool lead. Yeah. Cool Aid tried to
distance themselves from that brand. It'sjust like, yeah, now everyone thinks
(33:59):
of ourselves is the cool aids ofbrands? You always hear it in the
movies and stuff American alcohol, Likeis it is it a wine or no?
No, no, it's it's likeum cordial or something. You know
how you get like the powder ofpower Aid and Gatorade powder and then you
mix that with water to get like, you know, you juice. Yeah,
it's it's like a it's like apowdered drink that you mix. That's
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yeah, that's that's that's a coolAid. And they mixed it with a
whole heap of drugs and stuff thatwas obviously lethal. And they all except
for you know, the leader ofJamestown, who just took a bullet to
the head because you know, ittastes a lot better because they died last
or something. Oh yeah, yeah, Anyway, we're getting into cults now.
We're now a cult podcast because wellI did for a passion which looks
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like a cult. Yeah, truepastion of meditation thing, but it's not
a cult. No, it wasn'tlike listening back to that episode where you
talked about your silence retreat did notsound like a cult at all, one
bit. I don't. Yeah,I can see how it looks like that.
Yes, the cult of can Yeah, but you're only there for two
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weeks and then that's it. Yeah, until you recruit another ten people below
you, and then it's kind ofa cult slash Ponzi scheme. I'll tell
you what. That is one thingthat if you didn't want to do it,
you would not be there right now. Yes, yeah, it sounded
like how Yeah it was. Itwas brilliant, amazing experience. Seriously,
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you go, do it refer myname? I'll get no, I'm joking,
but Steve, yes, I dohave one thing to say. M
h. I'm worried. Now.This is this look of deepness and seriousness
on your face. I don't knowwhat to what to expect from this.
(35:52):
I was almost murdered. What Iwas almost eaten alive? What by my
new dog cloth? Slo what happened? Not your dog know what happened?
So we're over in Bali. Yeah, you know, everyone goes as you
do. I mean that's what youget, all the finest handbags. Yeah,
(36:15):
and me and mate Fries which wewent with another family, so me
and we mate Ryan we went.We went over to New Salembong and which
is one of the smaller islands,just just me and him for two nights
to go. He's a surfer.I love Snorkeland. Yeah, you know,
but at dad time, you knowdad time talking about kids, yeah
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and shit and shit. Yeah.And anyway, the first night we hired
this scooter because that's all you cando to get around this this island.
It's pretty remote ish and there's onlylike little tracks to get around and stuff
like that. And we decided togo to a few different bars, which
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you know, some of them arelike shipping containers on the on the beach.
It's like barley wood kind of neonsigns and stop they have a drink
and it's starting to get dark andlike all right, we'll head back.
Anyway, got a bit lost becauseyou know, it's dark, there's no
street light, it's just dirt tracksand um got the trusty iPhone out.
(37:25):
Oh yeah, that's We're saying,Cliff Fillers, go to Cliff Fillers.
No, this this saint it.So where we stayed wasn't where it's said
on the map. So we're fuckinglost. So I reckon, we're up
here. You go down and thesetracks are getting rougher and rougher. Anyway,
(37:46):
we get sort of this top ofthe hill and it's the end of
the road and it's pitch black,and we're in the jungle now, right
in the jungle, the mighty junglewhere the lion sleeps tonight, and the
bike conks out. It just conksout, and I won't start, and
it's pitched black, and all youcan hear. All we could hear in
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the bushes next to us was howling, you know, like wolves howling and
rustling in the bushes us. I'mlike, rustle, quit, what are
you doing it? He was justlooking for a nozzle, was the adventure.
I'm like, get this bike started, it's time to yeah, And
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anyway, so yeah, these thesedogs are circling us and trying to get
the bike started. We finally gotit started and we were out of there.
So that's how it almost died viagetting eaten by a dog and then
we just turned up around this cornerand then look over and oh there's our
villas. Well done, nowhere nearit. But yeah, it was.
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It was scarier the time would be. Yeah, I said, oh,
look, follow those red lights.We saw some red lights in the distance.
I'm like, it's you know,someone's tail light. Yeah, asking
where to go. Yeah, andit was just a box on the power
pole that had a red light redlight on it. Oh yeah, I
mean you would have been at home. You know what to do with power
poles. You could go to partsand touch high voltage power lines from the
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ground. Yeah, it's crazy overthere. Yeah, no, it looks
insane. Yeah, but no,oh an all good trip. Got to
swim with manta raise and sea turtlesand not oh god, gotta offered a
good time by a transvestide in analleyway. Cammy Gammy bombom, So my
(39:35):
nickname became Cammy Cammy boom boom thewhole trip Cammy Cammy boom boom. Yeah,
hey, so you want No onesaid that, but I said that
as a joke, and they thoughtthat they said that, and then that's
became Cammy Gammy boom boom. Yeah. Wow. Well that sounds like a
delightful trip. Yeah, I thoughtthem at fifty. It is okay.
(40:00):
Anyway, we should probably wrap thisup the bored everyone enough. Well,
if you're still listening, congrats,you've done well. Thank you so much,
did good thing. You're worries,but as always, you can check
us out on our socials tuning forour next episode to hear more shit.
But for right now, I've beenSteve, I've been Cammy, Cammy Bombom.
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Goodbye everyone, Bye,