Gen V Season 2 Episodes 1-3 Spoilers Review

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. It's been a little bit.
But to the gen V Season two, episodes one to three.
I'm the cliche spy tresnil.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm joined by the remember Taylor Field, you remember there
you go?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was gonna say, because boys, did we do? I
feel like, was it last year or not?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh? It was for sure? Was it?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay? I just can't remember. So that's kind of what
they seem to be going in Aussie. The Boys final
season is next year, and then I imagine afters I
can't remember what they're calling that show, but it's the
show with storm Front and Soldier Boy, remember that when
they're doing like the prequel one. Yeah, so I imagine they'll
switch on off and we'll have to see what they
do for this show. But yeah, we're gonna talk about this.
This is we're gonna review, give you our first thoughts

(00:48):
because Ossie, it is three episodes, so maybe you're gonna
get around too. It's gonna take a week. We will
give you a couple of minutes. I just not spore
our thoughts. We'll take an ad break and then we'll
get into spoilers thoughts. Uh yeah, listen, because we talked
about we're gonna like and see how it goes. Luckily,
we've had a lot of good stuff this year, like
some like Alien, our biggest review series of the year
did not have that pegged when we had like Daredevil
and Last of Us. So we're not I try to

(01:10):
say this in the nicest way. I don't try to
like thread and be like, we're not gonna do them all.
We're for sure gonna review this season. We're just seeing
the best because it is a busy month.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was talking to you off air at least luckily
I kind of forgot that. Now we do the three episodes,
there's only five aliens ending, but if you like this,
we're definitely doing this in episode four and then yeah,
listen to them, share them, spread them, because just because
if it's a busy time and they pull like, you know,
decent numbers or lower numbers, then maybe we won't. We
just have to kind of go edge and flow. But
we like talking about the stuff. It's just that we

(01:39):
got lots of busy stuff. And if people forget I
haven't started promoting yet, but Extra Life is coming up,
and you probably go, oh, why you get so busy
because of that day, because usually there's just lots of
planning and lots of we pre record stuff so we
can take some of those weeks off. I'm always talking
to people about trivia, so it's it's like the GV
day where it's like there's lots of stuff, there's videos.
I'm talking to people about gaul when I want to
try and get more because gall Let's coming back and

(02:00):
that's us four. But I want to try and secure
some people that aren't just us. But I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna reveal those people. I'm gonna keep those
nice and close to the chest. There, So lots of
good stuff coming up. Vought Rising is a prequel, so
thank you very much, and lots of good stuff. That's
what you get a geek. First, there's you know what
I can tell you there. I bet you there's nowhere
in the Internet where people are not doing this full time.

(02:23):
The four people, I'm putting as much work and do
as much as us. We've got Alien Earth right now.
We got well Textures ended, we got Peacemaker. I'm doing
two trast holds you a week. We got Pidequests, we
got after nine this Friday, six pm PSD, and that's like,
and we got the gimmick this weekend. Every week you're
getting four to five casts usually a minimum. Now it's
almost becoming like a weekday cast, soon to be weekly.
The amount of stuff we put out. The Tron retrospective

(02:45):
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the phase tune up after in a week or so,
but the producers get it last or first, and then
go to Patron and vote for the retro we're gonna
do next year. I'm not gonna list them off, but
there's about I think it's eleven franchises on there, some
really good ones, some really interesting ones. So you can
go and vote and talk about what we're gonna be
reviewing for twenty twenty six, along with Punisher and another

(03:07):
one we haven't announced, and some other stuff too. So
thank you to our Patreon producers. Aaron Brain Apra of Darkness,
Jack Grant Days, I'm gonna hold up Sam, super Bad, Mike,
Let's see Cocktail, Clay, Jeremy Renner, John would know h
Sam Green is gonna say the Panemic no, because yeah,

(03:31):
I said Sam, there's two and Charlie Randell so you're
going Aaron, yeah, I said that. All the problem is
now there's two SAMs. I guess Sam and Sam Green.
That helps, but we can't have that. We can have that,
We'll have as many Sam's as possible. But uh yeah,
obviously we're back so to their field. What did you
think of going into gen V? Also, Bake Cliffhanger, last
season started to tie a lot into The Boys. Obviously.

(03:52):
I feel like With the Boys has always been a
political show, but the last few seasons, especially last season,
Boys is getting very political. I'd say this season and
or this show takes advantage of it being a spin
off show, because I feel like they're getting very political.
There's multiple storylines in here, like obviously they're making commentary
on what's happening nowadays, but there's literally stuff happening last
week tonight that is just storylines from this show, which

(04:15):
is just kind of crazy. So the creators must pay
Oh my goodness, you know, like maybe hit gold or
maybe this's the end of gen V. I don't know,
but what do you think so far? A non spoiler
of the first three episodes of the season two.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I honestly I wish that I went back and watched
a little bit of that first season because I don't
cap at least I didn't get a recap on my phone.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I don't know why I didn't pop up.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I popped it on and watched the first episode this morning,
but it didn't prompt me a recap. And also just
a side rant, when the fuck did they did Amazon
just slide ads in there? I pay for a yearly subscription.
Amazon always have Amazon Prime Video though, and that's a
separate thing because I always paid for Amazon Prime. It
came with a video, and then all of a sudden,

(04:57):
now they just threw ads in there, and like you
got to pay extra pay morning to get the ads
out of there. I'm thinking, man, that's bullshit, because they
just sluck that in there for no reason.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Did you not get that when we did our watch
along for uh what we did?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I've always had it. I'm just realizing and now that
ever since, all these fucking platforms are putting ads on
and I fucking hate it so well because like Kisney Plus,
Disney Plus does yet.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well I think they do on a free another free
tip of the basic tier. So because I think what
it used to be is you got Amazon Prime and
that came with Prime Video, and now there is that
which you get they say limited ads, which is I
think there's about three blocks get one at the beginning
and then two in the middle, which the two in
the middle are very close together. I am not gonna
say anything against ads because obviously we got ads on here.

(05:40):
But at the same time, uh, we're no Amazon. We're
trying to just like half the funds of this is
what we may go back into the show and like
make it so we can have time to get produces.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I just wish that they sent me like a personal
email and say, hey, Taylor, you know what. We know
you've been paying for the subscription, but you know what we're.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Going to now to add instead of just like, no,
they didn announce.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I don't want announce. I want a personal message. I
want a phone call. You know.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think you can pay for a higher tier where
you can take out the ads.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh, you always can pay for a higher tier exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
So, but what do you think about the actual show?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh? Yes, I mean, well they reached out to Amazon.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're gonna be like Kim are gonna.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Put resist posters up?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
H No, I.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I I there's just there's a lot going on here
that a lot of characters that I thought, Okay, I
really got to just kind of remember where these characters fit.
There's a little bit of of of memory jog there.
I thought, Okay, this character was here, this character was here,
just the kind of backstories, because there's a lot that
this show introduced on top of just the world building

(06:47):
component to the Boys universe. So that being said, two
episodes and I was right back in like, Okay, yeah, no,
I'm driving with this. This is kind of just the
world that I like and some zaniness, and we got
to that third episode, Okay, yeah, we're getting into the
thick of it now with like big Cliffhanger, getting into
more like the mysterious kind of subplot that's involved here

(07:10):
with the show. And there's a lot going on that
I am really really enjoying and I'm excited to see
how things are gonna unfold. But my only con is
how And I don't want to say it's a con
because obviously it's very unfortunate that the show lost an
important individual or involved and so they had to pivot
obviously with how they were doing the narrative, and I

(07:32):
think they did a pretty good job with you know,
turning or having this unfortunate event unfold in real life
and being able to just build off of that in
the narrative for the show. So when you get the
characters in here picking up after that first season, I
loosely say it's a com because I don't feel like
that's fair for me to judge it as such. But

(07:54):
I just think that it's just the way they ended
season one and then they created like the beginning of
this first episode season two. I'm not a big fan
of it, and I feel like, to me that is
a con because of just the way, like, oh, well
everything happened in season one, Well here we are now continuing,
like you know, back at Adulkin and whatnot. I thought like, oh, okay,

(08:14):
I guess they just like they cleaned. I don't know,
would you.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Rather than a recast because always that comfortable and I
think like like T'Challa and Leah and like he Fledger's joker. No,
I'm not like saying like the Andre characters like to
that degree, but still like you know, and I kind
of forgot for the show the pulp is name, but yeah,
recipiece of that actor because man young career just starting out.
But that's where so you'd say that you'd rather not recast,

(08:43):
and then right, it.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Is tough, and how they executed that, I think that's fine.
It's more so just the other things involved with that
where it's not a spoiler. It's just like, well, it
is kind of a spoiler. I guess you went. You
went from the end of season one where they're in
this facility and then just where they appear at the
beginning of season two. It's like, it's that simple. I
don't think they would have got that kind of a pass,

(09:07):
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, but I think I think also gonna get into spoils.
We'll talk more about it. I could be wrong, but
I bet even if that actor was alive, that character
was in this, I think some of those easy things
would have happened. I'm gonna have to take a look
and think about this. But it just reminds me obviously
didn't hit you as hard as me as Kirk went Dexter,
but Dexter did that too, right where new Blood happened,

(09:30):
and then Resurexick, how are you getting get this? It's like, oh,
it's pretty easy. Dexter get back on the road, right,
And this felt like these characters were the cliffing or
of season one of this, like man, game changer, what
do you do? I thought, Oh, we're spending a whole
season doing this, and that it's very quick, like, yeah,
we're just gonna do this. And I just especially in
this world, I'll say, before we get into spoilers, it
just feels like they've cleaned up worse issues or easy

(09:52):
like like more minor issues in a more serious way.
You know. There might be a couple of characters, maybe
one particular, I could say, Okay, understand why you do
this with that character, but no, I agree. I think
it's a little awkward, right because the first episode is
just it's hitting home, like it's not a big spoiler, right,
like they well, maybe you don't know, but yeah, the

(10:12):
actor that played Andre, let me get his name so
I can just you know, give him some respect on
at least this episode. Let's say, so Chance Padromo, so
obviously he passedway between shooting and whatnot. And the first
episode really hits home, like I think I do I
appreciate that because there's they really could have just written

(10:33):
that character off and not talked about him and all everything.
So I like that they've made it a plot point.
Episode one feels very much like they're going to hit
that plot point a lot. But you know, I don't
mind it. I was the same way with a Quanda forever.
I know some people didn't like that, they just won recast.
I don't mind using it as a plot point because
I think it's also honoring that actor's legacy a little bit,
especially for this guy where he was so young, Like god, like,
how old was he? This guy? This guy was He's

(10:54):
born in nineteen ninety six, so he wasn't even that
much older than like me used through so I'm thir,
what am I am? Now? Thirty two? So yeah, he
was twenty nine years old. That's crazy. You know, I'm
just starting to be in a hit show. So I
like that. But I agree. I think what Mike's in
here is happy. They didn't spend multiple episodes in prison.
But it was a bit clunky. Obviously maybe some moners
police there, but yeah, I think it was. I think

(11:17):
for me, I would have been fine with a multiple
episode arc of some things. I just wish it wasn't
so easy. I think that's happening with a lot of
things this season. But so far, I'm enjoying it. Not
that I forgot, but there's multiple characters in here. I
do really like. Emma is obviously still the standout. I
just really like that actress. I'm excited to see what
she can do. I think there's other characters where I

(11:38):
just again need a little bit more. It's only three
episodes in, but it's just there's one in particular, whereas
it because I like the character, I like the actress.
They pulled the name with Kate or Kat. I really
liked the two of them together, but I feel there's
some lacking with that character. But I think if you
like the boys, you're getting what you want. You're getting

(11:59):
super I think right away they're amping the degree of
some more action and this not as much as the Boys,
but more action versus a college show. There's a mystery race,
you got that going on. Uh, there's you know, sex,
drugs and rock and roll. You got that going on.
You see lots of powers. I think for myself the
other thing is too is that's where something because people
have debated right with the boys and now Vaught rising

(12:20):
and this is like at first I kind of start
parenting MSU and DCU, and now they're like kind of
becoming that. Right. But I think what I will appreciate
with this show as always and I even you know,
shout out Superman James guns one when it did that, Right,
what I appreciate is true, it might be is gonna
become a parody of a parody could in a sense.
But what I appreciate is what I open up with

(12:42):
the non spoilers or at the beginning, was just how
political it is, because we're never gonna get that far
in dc We're never gonna get that far in MCU.
And for some reason, if you're if you're really hard
on I don't like politics, and I think then this
show is definitely not for you. It's way more hitting
on that if you're somebody that might be kind of
tired of it. Because we talked about this with Dariel, Right,

(13:02):
there's mbile people that are like, man, I'm tired of
bad corporate criminal rises to fame and power and becomes
you know, president mayor, which I get, right, and this
has a lot of that. There's literal things that are happening,
like about censorship. That's happening currently right now at ABC
and Jimmy Kimmel. That happens in the show. There is
a subplot in the show where a character gets assaulted,

(13:26):
and let's just say with the recent assassination in our world,
it's similar where that happens, and then a certain side
is putting all the things onto one thing that it
really isn't but they're just using this moment as a narrative.
They don't care as much as what happened with person.
It's that's not the main talking point is about how
can we use this to control X, Y and Z
And I think, like the boys we talk about, the

(13:47):
show does a great job of showing how scary like
the hive mind can get, and how scary you can
control people through phones and through like hive mind and
just sheet mentality, where it's just like, yeah, you can
just perpetrate this thing, and if no one's scared, like
if someone's too scared to talk up about it or
do anything or doesn't have the power do anything, there's
not much you really can do about it. So I

(14:07):
think that's where I think the show's kind of singing is.
It's sure there is some satire to it, but they're
hitting on some stuff that's very realistic and very one
to one. Like I said, Last of the Boys did
that with the star Lighters versus Homelanders, right, but this
is continuing that and I think one aspect I'm really
liking it's again non spoilers before we get there is

(14:28):
there is the human character, which we'll talk more about
in a second. Really liking that dynamic and seeing that
side of the Okay, now the Soups, the evil Soups,
have won and taken over and they're ruling with this
big right hand. So what do you do when you
were the person just trying to make ends meet and
trying to live your life and you have no powers,
you got no friends, you know, and to defend yourself.
You're just trying to work your job and a bunch

(14:50):
of stuff happens, right, So that stuff's all good. I
don't think there's anything that like I like like lack
my ass off or anything. But I think it was
a good three episodes. Like think what Taylor said, it
ends in a good cliffhanger sense, and I'm excited to
see what happens next week and see you know, especially
I'm excited to see what happens after the boys too,
like what they continue to do with this show, but

(15:11):
anything else non spoilers day there negative all right, so
we're gonna take our first ad break and then we'll
be right back. Okay, we are back. So with three
episodes here, I was just gonna say, we go this
kind of by character by character, group by group. So
what do you who do you want to start with?
What what storyline is bugging? Or you want to start
with de Andre prison stuff at the beginning?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Start with that.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, so now you can speak freely with that. We're
in the spoilers, so if anyone's not seen it, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. So just the idea.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I got nothing, the idea that they.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Started off with. Okay, they're in they're in jail, like
Vought jail. It's not looking good. They started uprising the
school was just chaos, anarchy, and so now we're just
back to normal, back to square one. It's like, okay,
no are they were let out. They made a deal
with Vought. Why they made a deal with Fought, Why
thought would offer a deal doesn't make it.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's for me. The big thing. I kind of get
why they would write because even if it goes against
their morals. They just want to be alive, right, And
the same thing. It's like, that's what I don't understand.
With thought, you would think that, Okay, these people that
get up, but they're still on the outside. It's not
there's not even an episode of them being like, well,
you know what, I'm scared, let's not do anything right away.
They're back on the Scooby Doo case of trying to
take the academy down. You know.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, so you don't really get a lot of uh
like set up or build up, like there's just not
enough information there. Really, it's just yeah, what they're what
they're their sorry is and so uh they're out, and
it's not all of them are, because Marie obviously isn't.
And so then just with her, it just seems like

(16:46):
it's rushed because Starlight appears and you know, she's just like, oh,
all she has to do is just do a video
saying she wants to go back to school and that's it.
So okay, I guess that that is it. And so
that's what I didn't like. I didn't like how they
were just get in this, you know deal, just to
get out with this jail jail free cards. I would
have liked a little bit more story because it seemed

(17:07):
like such a big thing for them just to be
tossed into this vaught prison and just like, holy shit,
this is this is great, especially with the other two.
Why did they have to make a deal. I don't
know why they did that, especially because they're trying to
have like redeeming qualities for Kate now like, oh, I'm
on your side, I'm here, Marie. It's like what you
guys were fucking evil in the last season by the
finale so.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well though the guy let me get the characters in
because I'm still funky on the mall. But the one
that sees the puppets there, Sam, I wouldn't say he's evil.
I think he's like a kind of an experiment gone
wrong in a way because I don't know if you remember,
but he spent I don't know how many years, but
multiple years, like locked up in a vault facility. So
I think he's just And also we see that Kate's

(17:49):
like manipulating him right with the visions and the thoughts,
So I don't really put him on evil. And I
think the show, I don't think the show's trying to
make Kate evil, but I think the poor is making
Kate evil because I could believe that she does all
this stuff. Thought she was doing the right thing, but
now she because when she's like, I'm the one that
got you out, I thought, Okay, this is the start

(18:10):
of redeeming this character. Right of for some reason, because
she technically I don't know what they did it, but
she could have said that she mind controlled somebody or
made them change their mind like with the touch right
and decide like that, like that's how I'm gonna get
you out of here. I just didn't believe with that.
And then later on they talk she reads her mind,
and I guess I understand she reads who's mind there

(18:32):
Marie's mind.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I forgot she could do that.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think she. I can't remember if that was a
newer skill or not, because they know the touching people.
Was that I think either, I think they that was
a secret for half the season. I could be wrong.
I think it was that Piel didn't know without touching
she could do that, or she acquired it whatever. But
when she read it again, I understand the POV when
she's like, hey, I've kept secret from vaults. They do bad,

(18:56):
terrible stuff. I think they just need to kind of
on it a bit more and maybe humanize her a
little bit. They have her and I don't think it's
the actress. I feel like it's the writing, the directing.
They have her acting so cold at times. Maybe we're
gonna get some Kate or Cat episode, which is it's Cat.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Right Kate.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I thought, fuck gets with a seat, so that's allways
screaming up. So maybe I get some Kate episode that
can really get that through. But I thought her getting
the mad there was the start of hey, I was wrong,
I'm gonna make it right where it seems like that
was the intention, But then when they didn't just accept
her again right away, she's like, got fuck these people,
you know, like I'm kind of down with them, which
is the same thing of I don't know what she

(19:35):
wants to do, because I guess I get it from
her perspective when uh, she gets blown into the electrical
box and her head's bleeding, but they're like, hey, don't
touch her, because it's like, yeah, you've given them no
reason to trust you, right, they don't know what's gonna happen,
so it's like that, and that's where I thought, Okay,
maybe this is gonna be the moment where she realized, Hey,

(19:55):
they wouldn't even touch me. To save my life. I
have fucked up a main lot of errors. But the
next when she's like season on the campus, she's given
them the bitch look. She's all mad about it. So
it's like, okay, So either if they're gonna try to
redeem this character, I think they gotta do some bitter
writing with her or just make her full evil, right,
just have her ham it up. Go that way. So
but what I was saying the nonspoys, I think even

(20:17):
if the Andre character was alive, I still think this
is the way they would have got out of prison.
And yeah, I don't buy it. I understand the Marie
character because obviously there's some missy with her, right, she's
the Odessa, so whatever it's gonna be. They need her
for X Y and Z. A Hamish link later, who
is now the new like headmaster of the school. I
really like that reveal that he was there when she

(20:39):
was born. So it's like, Okay, there's lots of going on,
so I could understand. Okay, well, Marie caught her the
deal now, same thing, Like you could have had a
scene where she only makes that deal if her friends
are alive, right, like if she can understand, but we
don't get that. Just they got that and Marie was
just on the run. But again, everything with Marie I'm
fine with because she has some power they want to

(20:59):
you know, hole, Okay, fine, but the friends, why wouldn't
they just kill them? Maybe I guess they haven't stayed this,
but I guess maybe they don't want to kill them
because Marie wouldn't be there at all, I guess with
all the friends. But they didn't state that on state
or showed that on screen. They just gave them a deal, right,
So so maybe that if they can get us there,
then maybe again a couple more episodes, I will be

(21:19):
more welcome to the idea. But I do agree with
you that on the surface, it just felt like we've
seen Homelander kill just multiple just like little people, like
there's that one, like even just I guess it was
a still big deal. But like wh start, I brought
her like first boyfriend on the team in like vouche
for him, he like took them to the rooftop and
just mangle them right. So it's just like there's and
this these are people that started a like a movement,

(21:41):
like kind of a like a I won't say a ride,
but that campus was a known public thing, right, and
they said they got framed. But it just feels like
it's more for Vaught. It's more trouble than or it's
more hassled that than worth the trouble, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So I don't know. Yeah, so yeah, no, And that's
totally right. That's a fair point because yeah, Homelanders killing soups,
that's right and center. He doesn't care necessarily about them
unless they play a direct benefit to him, right.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
So especially now I feel they can get rid of
even more so now he's got the power, right.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, I mean he's running Vaughd at this point. I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
So yeah, And Mike says, I think it's just for
good optics, since they are soups and creating the arena
that they help stop evil humans. I get it. I
just feel like we're past the point now where Vaught
is they will just do bad shit and then we'll
just make anything there of like they did with the
k thing right where she gets attacked and they just
say I put it on the Starlighter Rider people and
they kill them, right. So it's just like they do

(22:37):
whatever they want whenever they want. So I agree with you,
Mike In sends me a couple of seasons ago. But
now when Homelander is literally i'd say the president but
maybe soon to be like the ruler of the world,
I feel they can really do whatever they want. And
that is the tough thing of maybe an in between season,
right because in the Boys final season, I bet you
will see Homelander just do a bunch of wreaking havoc

(22:58):
because he's very likely gonna die, right, Like the good
guys are gonna win, so you can get as low
as possible. So it feels like it's kind of like
an like we're in a holding pattern into the Boys
and season three can or sort of the final seas
can pop off and do their own thing. So but yeah,
what do you think with Marie and this Odessa thing?
Got any theories there? The theory was that they at first,

(23:20):
I guess the pregnant the people couldn't get pregnant, so
they got to Vaught and I guess there's some sort
of deal as well where they made her a soup.
They revealed that her sister was like a miracle baby,
but I guess that's part of the reason. But clearly
I imagine there's more than she just was like fought
helped them get pregnant, right, so you got anything cooking
in the mind there.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well that was the kind of journal. Well get the
getting pregnant thing. I think that's that's a first. But
the general theme though, like Okay, people are expecting and
they're like, oh, give us that vaught juice, and then
we compound v and we toss that into our kids
and we get superpowers, and the parents get compensated for that,
they get paid for it. So I mean it fits

(23:58):
with the theme because they've always been doing that kind
of stuff, right, It's been their general go to. So
her being I don't know, they alluded to like that
Jesus figure, like Okay, she was conceived here. Maybe she's
just the first soup that's just born out of the
compound V. I mean, I don't know, Maybe there's something

(24:20):
about her that makes her a first, right, just like
Homelander is a first and of his kind. He's that superman,
U's that and whatnot. So yeah, I don't know. I'm
trying to think, like even with her powers, and obviously
the director sees something or knows something that she doesn't
because she cuts herself in order to get the blood
out and to use it. But there must be some

(24:41):
other play here, something else, like she doesn't have to
do it that way, right, I'm wondering what he was
alluding to. Very cool to see how she was taken
on the hammer bro. Oh my gosh, that guy was
just very crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
The power through like a mini heart attack. I looked
like too yeah on there, so but I guess like
she's I think I guess there's probably a no kill
rule there, right, Not that she was going to kill him,
but I feel like if she could go full, that
guy's kind of done right like most people, I figure,
kind of dad, I think the only one I feel
like because there was the Senator girl I can't remember.
Obviously she died in the Boys, that was the head popper,

(25:17):
and they revealed that that she has the same power.
I think, didn't they reveal that she couldn't do that
at Homelander. I thought that was something or for some
reason it didn't work. She never gone to I don't know,
but obviously. I don't think she's gonna be the secret weapon.
I don't think they're gonna make you watch gen Vita
take on Homelander.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But they've talked about how you could do it on Homelander.
But she got fucked up because the boys killed her, right, you.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Know, the boys tried to kill her. I think it
ended up Homelander was the one that killed her overall,
I thought so. I thought they tried to kill her.
And what's his name?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Weren't they dealing with the flying like flying cows, the
mutant cows, the super cows?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
She was there though, I thought.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
She was, and I thought that was where she died
because she was there looking for her kid or was
it her house with the husband her She had the
kid with the scientist guy and they were holding him hostage.
Color when I was holding him hostage?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
But then how did she die? I thought Homelander killed her.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Still I'm gonna look because I don't remember him killing her.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I love being a lot of deaths on the boys here.
But uh yeah, So I still continue to like the
marine character a lot, like that actress. I really like
that scene with her aunt. That was some good stuff.
I'm liking the dynamic she has with Uh, with the
bibe with Jordan, I really like that. That's tons of
fun there just navigating their dynamic. Revealed she was a
virgin and then said I love you to Uh her first.

(26:34):
Obviously there comes a lot of uh like is this
true love or whatnot? So I I just continue to
like the character. And I like this actress a lot.
I think she does a good job of being kind
of a leader and strong, but also having kind of
a human innocent quality, like the times where she said
I love you and the you know they didn't say
it back and stuff. So I'm continuing to like her

(26:56):
as a lead. And she was doing some missions on
the side. Also, he brought up the Starlight er, so
we got her to Starlight, we got her Annie, we
got a cameo there, so you know, they're pulling the
big guns. I'm not sure what's gonna happen. I'm not
sure if we're gonna because she wouldn't speak about the boys.
I wonder if we're gonna get Huie or we're gonna
get Carl Urban at some point. I don't need that
to make the show great. But it was just right
away they level star starlight, right, It wasn't like last

(27:18):
season where they waved to the end to bring a homeland.
They led it with a big gun right away. So
uh yeah, it's an interesting time. So anything specifically it was.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Billy Butcher pulled the tentacles out and rips her apart
and kills her.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
But did he was it one of those things that
he didn't know we did it right?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I don't know if it wasn't like this is at
the end when we finally realized like he was doing
his weird shit, and I think he lashes out against her. Yeah,
it says I pushed over the edge. Billy Butcher arrives
and then uses tentacal powers to rip her in half,
killing her.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Geez, I'm not have to rewatch that season, even though
I did not really like that last season too much,
so I'll have to find a good recap. But yeah,
anything others specifically with Marie you want to talk about here?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Uh no, just I'm interested to see how this is
gonna play out. When now that they've admitted, well, Jordan
admitted that they're the ones who killed their name's Jordan, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Jordan admitted that they're yeah, they take they take the
fall there, so they didn't state like, oh, Marie is
involved or anything like that, even though Emma said, like,

(28:26):
that's Jordan and Marie thing, right, So it'd be interesting
to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, because I thought they introduced that, I'm pretty sure
in episode three, and I thought that was gonna be
a couple episodes of them just using this. And even
then too, I wondered, I guess it's tough, right because
you could see them being that that could have helped
them being like an inside agent, them just agreeing to
work with von everything. But I think the point of
also having the boys and what's happening now on the show,
and then even what's what I talked about, like with

(28:53):
World World stuff, I think they're trying to show that
you should speak up to stop these things or they're
gonna keep happening. Right if you don't put things a up,
if you don't say something, you know, you're as bad
as the person letting it happen. And then plus they
did not say you know the other Peel's names so
they can go to work and find out. And yeah,
that was a quick turn around.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Two.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Same thing with the love thing. I thought that was
gonna be a few more episodes of them like himming
and hawing about, like like you know, especially with the
Marie version thing, But now I don't. It's I guess
they might have just said it because they might think
they might be dead next episode, right, because they're gonna
get arrested. And Hamish Link later didn't look too fond.
I was gonna say, how are you feeling about the
new Dean? And I'm gonna ask you could be a

(29:31):
true question, but why do you think they've not shown
or talked about what powers he has? Because that's a
big thing. They say, no one knows what his powers are.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Oh well, his name's Cipher, so I have to wonder,
like what is that. Let's see the definition because all
these nicknames all mean something.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
You rememberhere, you've seen him from though, right.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Isn't he from he plays the brother? Oh my god,
what Julia Lariy Dreyfus.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, he'd uh he's He's also in the original Fantastic Four,
but he's also in Midnight Mass, remember the main priests
kind of.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Mass?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh my god, dude, that no I forgot? How okay?
This Halloween you need to knock that out, especially you're
in such a vampire mood like that is the best
vampire thing we've got in this generation. I feel Midnight
Mass is incredible. He plays a priest in there, and
he is scary. Good watch it. I think it's only
in episodes you're making me want to rewatch it. It

(30:31):
is one of the Oh my god, I fuck I
didn't put that on my top ten TV shows. Oh
oh yeah, I would have put that. That's an rnable mention.
That would have been. Oh and here say, I guess
it's favorites. That would be my best But yeah, that is.
You should watch that tear. That is a great vampire show,
and he is That's his best role ever. He's he
You think he's good in this show, and I know

(30:53):
he's good in New Adventures of Old Christine. You will
watch him in minute aspect. This is one of the
greatest actors we got. He gives an all star performance
that the Discord will back me up with that. I
will take you in the morning four I am. I'll
be like, hey, everybody, tell tell Taylor about this. But
did you find what cipher means?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Cipher definition a secret or disguised way of writing code.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
So it's just that he's secret of My theory is
he has no powers. That's my theory.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh yeah, I could see that, but he just exudes
confidence and it just has the sense. I mean, it
could always he could be gaslighting and faking.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, wouldn't that help though? If they all think his
powers and it's like, oh, what does he have? We
don't Like they could think he has this terrible power,
but really he doesn't. I could be wrong and maybe
he'll turn the fucking haulk one episode. But it's just
my theory unless it is literally something of they talked about,
like the Kim being the doctor of Marie. What if
he literally has like the gift of life and not

(31:53):
like reproducing, but that right, like changing people's genetics, Like
what if the drug or something like that comes from him,
Like he could help someone get pregnant.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So I don't know, Yeah, it's possible. He just there's
definitely something that they're alluding to with him, for sure,
more than what they've said like yeah, keeping the powers
of hidden mystery. I think that he's just got something
to do with uh uh, some kind of power that
involves like you said, yeah, creation or.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I really hope they don't make him like Marie's dad.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, I hope not either, although I hope there's acting like.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
I hope there's nothing like, oh, you know, your dad's
sperm cameslower this and that. So I was a way
to like help out and you go to pardon me.
I don't want that, is right. Yeah, he's great in
Legion and Legion that's funny. He's playing like kind of
a similar role. But he's really great there. And I'm
nice to see you again. Cipher crags me up. I
like his clownforms. I thought we lost you after the
dex reviews. But you know we're we're we're doing this now.

(32:56):
So let's see. Can we talk about Jordan. Yeah, I
still love the dynamic, like that character.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
The thing that I was going to bring up was
something another thing we're talking about how easy it is
and the escaping from prison. Andre's dad polarity to me
another like what Vaut really let this man be around
to the school with everything?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think so, because I mean, what did he do
in season one that was wrong?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I mean he's just like but he was so his
son was locked his son was locked up and died
trying to get at a prison.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, but I think from what they've seen, like his
dad was very much on the opposite end of that spectrum,
like do this, do this, do this. His dad was
always like an advocate for like just played by the
book Da DA. He was always trying to put him
in the interviews. So I think he was very much
front and center and by the book so to Vaught,
he probably looks like he's just youah, the golden person, right,
like he's just always been there. And I think again

(33:49):
what worked in their favor was that I remember correctly,
like his son and him had that kind of like
heart to heart and his dad kind of woke up
a little bit at the end of season one. So
I think that again really helps with this transformation to
this character. If they didn't do that, it would have
been you know, it still would have been fitting, but
it just it helps set it up a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I just wish there was I wish he had a
scene with Cipher the same way Mari did of kind
of like talk like like just like Cipher being making
sure it's all water on the bridge not emitting faults
at all, you know, to them doing anything wrong. But
just you know, like I hope even with the loss
or like almost like a minor intimidation and Polarity just

(34:28):
act like, yeah, it's all good, Like I understand X,
Y and Z. Maybe that scene's coming. It just feels
a little too easy for me that the kids that
were locked up, oh well they're back to the school
have to making the deals. The son who we killed
while his dad's just hanging around the school teaching classes.
That's it just seems again a little too easy. Super
Mike says he loved the guy of Dog Pirates would
a freak. Yeah that was some dogs. That was some

(34:52):
good stuff. Let's see, says I agree. It doesn't make
sense for Polarity still be there, but it makes sense
for him to have a bigger role. Absolutely. I feel
like a lot of stuff that was probably for Andre
they probably repurposed for his dad there. And I finally
like the actor, like the character. I don't like his
chances of making it to the season because I just
think he looks like a character that could do a
Sacril official play. But uh, you know, we'll see. Uh

(35:16):
let's take our second ad break and we'll be right back,
and we are backs. We talked about them.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I gotta highlight dog nod here, just the way you're
just trying to figure out what's going on. You see
that dog, and the dog runs away and he's like,
you fucking cocked. He he's like, oh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
It reminds you he's this season's like the whole guy.
I remember the talk show guy that he holes like definitely,
and they pinned it on him, right because he killed
the quotations killed the starlighter person, right.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So they couldn't speak what do you mean pended on him?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Didn't the dog? Didn't They say that those starlighter humans
like they killed they attacked Kate and they didn't. Yeah,
the dog dog killed him, yes, but like like maybe
he did take them out, but that's not really what happened.
R he didn't take them out because of the attack Kate.
He I guess he's just like clearly a hot a
gun for high or they just give him a fucking
I don't know, a raw high shew bone and he's like, yeah,

(36:12):
I'll do it. So, yeah, that'll be interesting. How much
that character pops. I think small doses for me with
that character. I don't want to get too overwhelming, but uh,
you know, sometimes the Boys goes.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Too much with that. I want to see him interact
with other characters, like between him and then the Deep
showing up here doing the initiation, like I want to see, Yeah,
I want to see Doug not interact with all these
other characters. I want to see Homeline or just insulting.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh yeah, or or have like him like pee on
the Deep, you know they yeah, yeah, but yeah, we
got lots of Deep. We got him narrating, we got
he was he's the like the the alpha of a
lot of these school you know, what are they called.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's like the Gamma Beta ray.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
They have a name, right, what is it? It's a house, yeah,
fred House or not at is a sobriety or sorority, Yeah,
those type of things. And then we also see him
later on making that speech. So uh man, I can't
wait for the Deep to fucking die next year. I
cannot wait to er Yeah no, he right, he helped
out a little bit, but then he went back on

(37:18):
Team Homeland or like, I fucking hope he gets destroyed.
But yeah, speaking about polarity, we got Emma, who is
on an interesting kind of predicament, right, now because she's
I feel like, I like that she's still trying to
remain positive, but she had this thing going with Sam,
doesn't know well, can't trust him, so she's very much
on the outskirts there. She keeps getting kind of hit

(37:40):
up by all these vaught people to help out because
they're like, hey, even with everything that happened here, you're
still the most like ninth ninth, you're the ninth biggest
following here in the campus. And they're trying to which
again another topical thing. They're like, oh, well, you know,
lots of people won't really buy what we're selling, but
if we get a attractive girl that they all like, like,
their direction, their you know, erections point them to the

(38:00):
democracy and she, you know, I was like, I don't
live any interest in rantanting anyone's erection, which is a
true thing that people use right to get Some people
looks to go up to a certain stance because that
might get their attraction. So it's interesting where there's a
lot of people trying to I feel like, get her
on that side, but there's no even if it's fake
or even internally, which I like, there's no she's not

(38:22):
thinking about it at all she's fully like I'm taking
bought down. That's going. She seems like she's more gung
home than some of them. I like the chemistry she
had with Polarity. I really liked that scene where they
get the files from like the old TV show guy
and she's talking about and when she loved them and
a show was canceled. That was good. And then my favorite,
other than like the main story of like Okay, what's

(38:43):
gonna be the reveal, my main or my favorite story
right now is the human that works in the cafeteria,
because I think that's such an interesting dynamic where you
go from okay, humans are the main species, then you
got human the soups together, and then the soups stack
go in like a violent way. And now because she
even says like I need this job, like I got

(39:03):
nothing else. So in this world where it's like she
needs this job to probably pay for rent, food, everything
like that, every day different soups are either bullying or
teasing her or really making like threatening things towards her life.
You have this fucking suit that keeps putting up or
resists like starlight propaganda, and she's not doing that. So
it's just ruining her day and making it super hard.

(39:24):
So in that scene too, when it's like when she
goes to get checked in, the security guy like scans
or and of course he like extra scans or privates.
As of right now, there's nothing she can do because
he's like terrible soups are running the show right again,
more allegories for a lot of stuff that's happening in
today's world. So I really like because at first, when
she's at the cafeteria, I either didn't pick up or

(39:44):
I missed when they revealed she was a human. Obviously
they did later on when she comes to work, she's
the bus, she's the human tag. But I really like
this story of seeing like, Okay, what is someone that
is literally powerless trying to do in this situation where
they're in not with the boys, they're all with her
main characters, yet they're just trying to get by, right,
And honestly, I would not be surprised if her and

(40:06):
Emma become an item. They might just be friendly, but
I feel like they're being a little a little more
chummy than friends. Just my opinion, But yeah, what do
you feel about Emma and this human character that they
they've introduced as far as just getting just the worships
ever right now.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
So I honestly thought they were going to kill the
human character off in this in this episode, I thought I.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Thought there was a chance. Yeah, I thought it might
just be a one episode type of arc thing.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
But yeah, just because yeah, this is the second time
that Emma's kind of engaged with her and interacted with her,
so they could could stem into something, I guess. But she's, yeah,
I don't know, I feel like it'll just come down
to like and that helps her get out of there,
and it's like, oh, I know where you can go
go here and then she'll join the Starlighters or something
like that. I don't know, but yeah, it's just it's

(40:52):
what do you do? Like, and is this this soup
that keeps posting these Resists things up? It's not to
get her in trouble, this human I think it's just
because they genuinely believe and like the Resists and and
all that stuff, and they believe in Starlighters cause so
it was just interesting to see once that that story
kind of like unravels there. That was wild when we

(41:13):
get into the Chaine room and just the guys just
like I'm.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Always saying, get more dicks on TV. We got a
lot of dicks on TV. Yeah. And then when guys
like like, he's like, what was he doing with his fingers?
He was fighting them up and she bumps into.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Doing a joint. Yeah, and then he like shoots his
fireball at at her. It just takes her out on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So yeah, and then we learned that there was another
which I will enjoy, which I think they can do.
We found because this girl was doing a lot of
social media and she was very preppy and very like,
oh yeah, Kate's the best and fucking starlight and all
this stuff. But then the big reveals her and one
of her other friends are on the inside trying to
you know, help with a kind of uprising and help

(41:56):
turn against the Homelander team and everything like that. Right,
it reminds me and I thought it was gonna be
the case once they revealed Cipher is running with it,
I thought not and maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. And
that's where here's my two things with Cipher. To me,
either he is I could be wrong, but my two
predictions are he has no powers or then I guess

(42:17):
my third prediction is the Aspowers life. But my second
prediction is that he's actually on team Starlighter. And I
what I the vibes I was getting was like an
Order of the Phoenix type of vibe Taylor of there's
a bunch of kids in a school that are fighting
against a big evil, but they don't want to be known,
so and the what better way to cover for these
people working together? Now? Kate is in that class. But

(42:38):
you could argue he's trying to turn her over, right,
He's trying to get her back that side. I could
be completely wrong, right, But it's just even when those
two kids that were very preppy that were actually working
against the Homelander squad, that came up to my mind
of oh, there's a there's other students that are getting
that this is not right, what's happening right now, and
they're going to try and make a play. So and

(42:59):
I wouldn't mind that if that was the big reveal
that the new headman. It's kind of God, what is
I'm trying to think of one? Like? I guess that
was kind of Snape, right. I guess in a sense
that was his role of he got elected and he
did you know a lot more awful things, but that's
the vibe. Do you think there's any possibility there that
he's a I think.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
That's definitely a realistic possibility that that would be pretty clever.
I would be down for it too. I'd be all
on board for it. So but I mean, we'll have
to see how it plays out, because yea, Kate is
the kicker. That's the one that you'd have to really
kind of convince because I mean in the first episode,
she's just immediately like what is Odessa, Like, Oh, you
gotta tell Vought, like straight to Vaught, right.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
So but again she was still saying, like you should
tell them so they don't hurt you. But she just
doesn't get it yet, right, especially with her powers, Like
obviously right now they're weekend, but I think that's what
they're gonna have to try to. She's so scared of
Vaught using her powers against her when I know it's
a cliche superhero thing, but she just has to realize,
like what if you use your powers against Vaugh? Right,

(44:01):
Because like Kate, I feel like they talk about Marie
and I get it because the blood she can take
multiple people, but once Kate can really master those powers.
She's she's truly like a top tier one. She can
just manipulate people by touch. I don't know if you
could do that to someone like Homelander, but still I.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Think you could do it to Homelander. I think so too,
Like it's anyone that you touch, right, anyone that she touches.
But she's only got the one hand right, which I
completely forgot about that because when she was in the
hospital then I was like, what the fuck happened? And
she's like, lose a hand from me, smacked in the
bielectrical box or.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
She keeps ending up there, which I this is what
I didn't What did you take from the scene when
she speaks to the nurse and one nurse stabs.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Thing, Oh my god, well what do you mean, like, like,
was that something she was doing on purpose?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Was that something because she could? So that's where for me,
I'm I like, that goes against my order of the
Phoenix pitch. Where now just make her full evil, you know,
because that I didn't all like that scene for if
we're ever gonna try and redeem this k character, it's like,
well she he like she led to the murder of
just some innocent nursrying to help out, you know, didn't.
It didn't make sense to me.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But I mean everyone had. I mean, look at a train, right,
a train killed Dewey's girlfriend, and that's.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Huey by the way from Bacol scream well and scream,
but that was by accident. The problem was he just
wasn't uh, he didn't have any empathy for it.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You know, this could have you know, this could be
accident too. I mean her doll is cracked and she's
just like, you know, super pissed off or whatever. And yeah,
I mean it does go a little bit more heated
because after she kills those two nurses, the two guards
and the doctor come in and she kills them too.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
So yeah, uh says let's see, Taylor's Dewey's gonna go
do it. Let's see. Uh do we think we're done?
Seeing the seventh season, I'm surprised the cameos were so early.
I could see one more time, uh, because I just
think we're gonna get some more down the line. I

(45:59):
think they're trying to because I don't know what the
ratings were of this show. Honestly good enough to get
a season two, right, but I don't know if this
is to pump up this show, where it's also just
to really set the stage. Keep reminded you about Boy's
final season, right, But do you think any more cameos
are coming?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Oh? Yeah, We're three episodes in and we've had I
think we've had a cameo each episode at this point.
I mean Starlight episode one, the Deep episode two.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, so I can't think of anyone of the three
three I will say, just so I don't forget about
the man that soup that has the fucking bee stingertail
that's just like sitting out there like, oh you got
a dick, come in here.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Ass.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
At first, I was like, I guess I missed or
I didn't understand that it was a bee. I picked
up on it eventually, but the first time when she's like, well,
be careful, I don't want to sting you because that
means you and I both die, and I was like,
that's kind of weird. But then when I put together like, oh,
she's literally like a literal bee, and like literally like
she stings someone someone, she'll also die. We know that's

(47:01):
happening for sure this season, Like whether she does it
or I think someone will do it like, I think
it's gonna be like an accidental depth. I could even
see being played for laughs.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
You know, oh, it will all of the above, all
the above, and whether the Deep took her virginity too
as she was telling my cage or whatever, which is
you know, of course the Deep did that. What was
the other thing with that too? When Ryan? Is that
his name? Uh?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Are you just saying that because Dan was asking about Ryan.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
No, that's Sam, Sam, thank you, thank you. So Sam
is fighting Jordan and they smashed the wall and they
land outside and uh but before they land outside, they
when the room that they smashed. Until you see this
one guy just you know, just do it like doggy
stance and you're like, what the fuck's going on? His
naked and then this other guy's head just comes out

(47:54):
of his asshole. It's like god, and it's such a
long scene. And Madison just sat down and she doesn't
already justsn't like the boys, but she just sat down.
Scene popped up. It's like, oh, for foxs sakes, they
just they love to focus on these scenes.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
My god. Yeah, just when you like you hear him
from inside the guy like what's going on? Like a
couple of people like crash through your door, you know,
so then he pops out. Of course, so uh says,
do we think the future of the show's Ryanton and
got you in future seasons? I think the I think
it's all up in the air. And that's why to me,

(48:29):
I honestly could see, like I said, the cameos could
be just to spruce up the boys. I could see
a world where the gen V ratings are lower and
they think, hey, this is still good enough to do
a second season, but let's see if we can get
it up with some cameos and tie it in and
we'll see. Because I really I don't know what's gonna
happen with the show. Obviously it's Amazon and they have
a botload of money. But at the same time, like

(48:51):
they still cancel shows, right, so I don't know what
I have to look and maybe I'll look into that
once even this week, once the ratings come out. But
so even if there's gonna be future seasons, we don't
even know. I could see that. But at the same time, like,
I guess you're assuming Ryan because well, I guess he
could be an asshole and go there, right, I guess

(49:11):
it's like just what happens with the Ryan character. Because
it was season four, I think we talked about that
that was kind of some maybe mixed writing as well,
where it felt like kind of every two episodes, like
Ryan was turning against Homelander, and then he was with Homelander,
and then he was turning against him, and it was
back and forth. And I get it, it's a kid,
but there still has to be a thrillance. So I
could see though a version when even if Homelander dies,

(49:32):
his son does attend the school and you gotta and
I feel like you kind of almost like a cursed
child sort of thing, you kind of have like how Malfoy.
I mean, I had never read the book, but I
think what Malfoy's son is kind of like not well
liked at school? Yeah, but he's not well liked yeah,
So the same way of like imagine once day defeed
Homelander and he's the bad guy. You go to school

(49:54):
and the homelanders your dad. That's the piece of shit, right,
So I think there's lots of potential there. Do you
think if you continue or Jen Wah fuck every apphabet
but V Do you think if gen v continues together.
Could we get more or could we get Ryan in
the here?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
We absolutely could, but I don't think we'll get that far.
I think once, uh, I think this is gonna converge
into the final season of the Boys, and because you
can't keep going back to this this university, You just can't.
It's unless a new set of characters, right like the
I guess, but I honestly think you do a first
order thing where after after the events of the finale

(50:30):
of The Boys, I think, and the Boys win, I
think it's just gonna come down to, hey, we're gonna
close down this university because it's all super fucked up.
I mean, let's not forget they are doing weird scientific experiments.
There's a Nazi museum down below, which I mean, shit,
if I'm in real life, God forbid, if I ever
walk into, like find the secret room and it's just
like Nazi propaganda. You got the uniforms, the big like

(50:53):
memorial for not like the swastika. That just makes me
feel uncomfortable still in that situation. But yeah, so clearly
like the guy who created the university is a Nazi,
which we already know when we look at Stormfront has
major ties to it. Yeah, so are we to assume

(51:14):
that cipher Is is Nazi and Odessa is part of
some kind of Nazi thing that they're working on.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Well, because though like Marie said, she's like like, like
she talked about the Nazis and what they like, she's like,
you know, like young black girl, I wouldn't be the
poster child for them, right, So that's why she was
even confused, like why would why would they want me?
I feel like that would be like a defect of
they're looking for a blonde, white skinned, blue eyes, you know. So,
and this I agree with Bike where says I can

(51:43):
see gen V acting as an epilog to the boys.
I agree with that. I could see it also being
like the first Order tailor where they recreate a school
and it's like, oh, this is gonna be in the
good image, But then there's some students that are still
filling the homeland their way or the way things used
to be and want to things up right. So I
could see them going with that or even like fucking

(52:04):
what are they? Are they blood eaters or what are
they in Harry Potter before Baltimore gets back death Eaters? Right,
there's a contingent of them around until Valdemore gets back
and takes over. Right, So I could see a season
of gen V dealing with that as well, where there's
you took out Homelander, but there's still people that believe
in his vision.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
So yeah, yeah, suber Mike says, we got Homelander in
the finale season one, so I'm sure they're saving some
cameos for season two finale. I agree, And I actually
think Homelander will be back again. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Oh? Absolutely, I think so.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
They talked about him a lot, even this episode or
when the episodes kid, it's like, oh, well, let's call
him Homelander, and I love Glary is such a good actress. Yeah,
let's do it. And he's like ah, but then he
lays up the whole situation and I can't remember what
character comes to them, and she's I think it is case.
She's like, I gotta report something. I got something truthful
to Vault, He's like, good, I want to hear it.

(52:54):
Vault loves the truth. I love He's just like such
a condescending piece of shit because he just he keeps
spinning it every way because he's like, yeah, vot does
love the truth, but do you love the truth because
the same thing he said, like if Homelander finds out
one about the squad and two you no longer have
your superpowers, you might be damage goods and you might
just be gone. Right. So I do think they're talking

(53:15):
about him a lot, and everything Um says chat. We're
still getting Vaught rising and apparently The Boy's next, which
I don't know. We're gonna have more spinoffs than Dexter.
And that's the thing where also right now Bezos the
TV company. I don't think anything's changing with Amazon right
but even today that came out. We'll talk about on
the future news. But Clive Philps said that's why like
Original sing got canceled, and he pretty much buried that

(53:37):
the Trinity Show's not happening anymore because he said they're
gonna do a bunch of spinoffs, and then the new
ownership came in said yeah, let's get rid of that.
I'm not saying that. I just mean, like people have
I know people have joked about it, but even you know,
we were talking about the discord they might look at
certain things in this show and the certain owners of
Amazon might not like the route it's going politically and say, hey,
knock that shit off. Vaut Rising. I think that's different

(53:58):
because it's in the past and the Mexico we have
no idea what that might be about. Where with this
obviously a very political show that's very much on I'd
say on one side, it's a show that doesn't really
like it's not like Self Parked that's satiring both sides.
If like, you clearly see what side of the spectrum
they're on, so some people they might want to go
that route. I so to me, I think gen v,

(54:18):
if if this season ends, and all I hope is
if it ends, it ends clearly for all our characters.
You know, I don't want there to be a cliffhanger
unless it is like we're for sure doing season three.
But to me, I think season three is the It
would be the cap. I don't see it getting passed
any longer that. But I would also be surprised if
this was it. You know so and then finally, good

(54:39):
thing I brought this up on this is a character
we haven't talked about, not too much to say, but
says are the puppets supposed to be funny? I'm so
done with this gag some of two minds. I was
surprised how early it came back because obviously this was
a big plot point last year where when he was
doing violence, he'd sea puppets when he was having sex

(55:00):
with him and he saw puppets, So like, they use
this multiple times, and I was fine with it going
away and then coming back. I was just surprised these
first three episodes already came back. I think they're trying
to start his redemption arc. I don't want this. I
was very worried he was gonna sleep with Jordan because
when they are current up in hotel room, I was like, ah,
don't do this, Like one, because like I'm brooding for

(55:24):
Marie and Jordan, but also like I don't want a
storyline where that because Jordan she said I love you,
so Jordan freaked down fuck someone else, and then it's
a whole season trying to get back together and figure
it out. It's like, I don't want that in the
midst of everything. Just make them together. So my hope
is him tell them telling Marie that they love her
was the end of It's just they are good friends.
That's my hope. And they were friends with his brother obviously,

(55:44):
but yeah, because Kate has lost her powers, he's starting
to break and crack, and he's seeing the Puppets again.
The violent streaks are happening again, and he's getting fights
with people. I don't mind it because I'm on a
side where like, I fucking love Puppets Today. Obviously, Disney's
announced on some bad stuff today, but when they say, hey,
we're doing the Muppets special, like, I'll be there. So

(56:06):
I like Puppets. There's a chey first film I would
love to make with puppets. Puppets are fucking expensive, so
that's why I looked at I was like, ah, this
is gonna have to wait. But one day, even before
if we ever saw him making the movies, I want
to I'll spend my own money on there. So I
liked it. And again I think the Sam storylines moving
a little fast, but I guess I'll wait and see

(56:27):
the rest of the season how it plays out. I
just wasn't expecting by episode three he might really be
or be close to getting back on our side. But yeah,
what do you think about the Puppets and Sam and
him breaking? At first he was on shows he seemed
like a cool guy, but now he's, uh, he's not
making it.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
The puppets cracked me up. I fucking love it. And
so when when his girlfriend dumps him and you know,
he's just the sandwich turns no puppet and it's just
talking shit to home. I love that he picks the
puppet up and it's still just like you're a fucking
piece of shit. And he throws in the garbage cat
and the garbage is like, you're a fucking it's talking shit.
I love that. And then he's like losing his mind

(57:03):
because now like the sun is just like, oh, you
know John F. Kenny Jr. Was assassinated, you know five
G causes cancer and all these different things like just
read it off, all the conspiracies and stuff like that,
just which is a curveball, but I really like, I love.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Was an inside job. One was just that got me good.
So which is so funny because it shows that I
felt like we didn't get that a lot last season.
It would go into his violent tendencies, but the fact
that they're literally like it's like pumping out these conspiracy
theories he hasn't had. That's uh, that was something new
to me, but maybe that's because I didn't rewatch as well.
Maybe that's something that was constantly happening. So yeah, uh,

(57:42):
let me take a look and see if there's anything.
Oh I really liked at one point when uh uh
Marie had her meeting with Cipher and he's like talking
her up about what he wants. He's like, oh, you're
really you know girl interrupted Angelina Jolie, and I need
you to be salt Angeline Angelina Jolie and he she
tells us the Jordan. He's like, yeah, he's he wants
me to like salt Angelina Julie and he's like a

(58:02):
cliche and a cliche spy and a mediocre movie. Wasn't
anything that big. I just liked the line. It was
just like a funny instance.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Oh you reminded me. There's another line too with the
remember saying like I just want to you know, right
out in the open, like Taylor Sheridan. I appreciate that,
and catch that that episode.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I catch they dropped the word adrenochrome in this one,
which is which is so funny.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh I didn't mean that. I meant the other one,
but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oh yeah you didn't. Because when they're because that's the
whole thing now right there, trying to make it seem
like starlighters are like uh pdf files, you know, like
they're all like doing all this stuff. So like, yeah,
you like this, you like uh, you know, you're probably
coursing of adrenochrome. Obviously if you've seen our movie or
haven't our film doesn't never mind, I can't even say that.

(58:51):
I don't even say it with some stuff. It's not
exactly it's not completely into the worldwide conspiracy stuff, but
it plays on some of the aspects. By Yeah, so
did you not catch him drop the word adrennachrome?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I missed that. I was talking about the Jacob A
Lordy thing and the yeah salt Burner too, what was
it like, salt burnt.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, salt burn He's like he's so good, a visionaire
and everything like that. Why because Jaga Lordie is like
he's one of the biggest fat rising stars. You know,
watch Worthing Heights. That's gonna be big that I might
be James Bond. So in this in this household, I
stand Jacob lord He could be fucking I can't be Batman.
He's he's too young, but he was my pick for Superman,
but I guess the rumors that he turned down even auditioning.

(59:30):
He didn't you want auditions, So yeah, ifday Sheridon doesn't
need to write a room, neither do I.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
That's that was a good line there.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
So uh yeah, I look through all the characters. I
think we talked about most of them and all my
notes of anything else we hit.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
No, that's everything.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Okay, Well, like I said, we'll be back next week
and we'll see even this we uh, you know, we
only did now or so, like I said, if if
you listen, you're there, we'll keep going on. There's only
five weeks left, so and if you're really enjoying the views,
let us know. And yeah, we'll be back next week
and I promise you and will not be boring