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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to Trash. Told you didn't
a prompt to bone a second episode of my Week
of the Week. I think it says it's my week.
Oh my yes, I had not planned this. The reason
is as usual, pimodent one last time. Probably will a
couple more times, but key first day, August ninth, ten
am PSD. We're starting. We're doing ten hour stream, could
(00:21):
go longer if you subscribe to Patreon, up your patrons
here or send a super chat, we'll go as long
as there's increments that will be in the comments, as
far as what a dollars worth five dollars? All that
content or sorry, all that stuff that you do donate
or up your subscription is going towards the back half,
but more importantly the twenty twenty six content and you
know whatnot so it's you know, side quests, the gimmick
(00:42):
this show. Trast told you the retrospectives that pays for
the extra time so we can create all that content.
So we'd very much appreciate you that geek first, you know,
send a little bit and if not, that's completely fine.
Just come watch. Just give me a fun day. No
ads on the stream reason law, it's a licensed music ram.
It's our ten year we're having a good time. It's
that we're going to multiple locations. Yeah, there's tons of stuff.
(01:04):
There's ninety minutes worth, maybe a little bit more of
a combo of different footage, whether it's tribute, best of
voices from the past, announcements. Yeah, it's a it's it's
a lot bigger than I thought it was gonna be.
I had to message the boys. I messaged the boys,
and for some reason, the Discord just like did not
send my mess up like it sent it. And then
(01:24):
I open up Discord and it was gone. It was
super fucking weird. But anyways, So it's also the second
time I'm recording the opening of this because I record
the opening with my I better check this again with
my my Mac speaker, not even the microphone. I'm sure
it sounded awful, but I'm like, ah, I can't do that.
But uh yeah, a little longer than I thought so,
(01:45):
And that's why why I'm recording this is because I
every time geek first t Day sit down and record
like a two minute Hey, here's our schedule. Just a
reminder of anybody if they want to tune in and
this is the events. There's some stuff that's gonna shuffle
around just because there are some stuff that's longer. But yeah,
it's going to be a fair very good time. It's,
you know, our end game. It's a culmination and whatnot.
You know, if I do die, let me know because
(02:07):
or let people know. Use this video. Tell the police.
Heard someone cough. But then like ten minutes ago while
I was out here and heard it multiple times. It's
got a couple of blocks over, so I think completely fine.
I'm on a patio. It's patio pod right now. But
it was somebody like singing, like very like you, thorough singing,
like not like definitely probably homeless person or drunk person,
(02:27):
but not like me, not anything like that. But it
was like Jersey, very creepy. Give me some ideas for
a s IDEO. I was like, oh, I don't like this.
It's late at night and that's what's happening. But the
reason so I was gonna be sitting down record the
schedule anyway, is to send out for the day, just
a reminder and give everyone the rundown. Hey, this is
what's happening, you know. On August ninth, ten hours could
(02:48):
go longer. Like we said, if you do one of
those things that do the stretch goals and there is
you know, benefits, things are unlock announcements, more content we'll do,
et cetera. So check out. Uh And like I said,
I'm recording the schedule. But that's why today just gonna
be like or this episode just going to be like
twenty to thirty minutes, not gonna be a big one,
just some quick hits. Because also I don't know when
the next time we're doing cat news. I know after this,
(03:10):
I'm gonna take a little break because my brain is
just shot. Other than when Valerie was in the nick you,
I think this is the most shot my brain has been,
even more than twenty four hour streams because I've been
editing a lot of videos and whatnot. And when I
started like, oh, put this clip there, the scope there,
and now when I look at something, Mike, is this
that I use this clip and I look like al right,
I three times is doing a video. I was like, oh,
this is a good clip, like already put this in here.
(03:31):
Like my brain shot it was. I'm excited to be
done it. And for the fifteen year, Meg will make
a nice little video, but I'm not doing this extensive
thing again until like the twentieth. But I hope you
all enjoyed. I think it's going to be a it's
gonna I know, it's gonna be very good time. It's
gonna be one for the ages. Like I said, it's
kind of our our our end game in a sense.
But anyway, so I send down to record that, and
(03:52):
I don't know when newscats and then other thing is
because Dylan's here in person, but he doesn't know how long,
and obviously his friends and family he also wants to
see as well, So we're trying to do it in
person cast that would maybe be news or maybe do
like a Patron special. We don't know. But the thing is,
I'm at least like until Alien Earth, and even then,
if I'm not recovered by Tuesday, I'll at Kirkland and
Taylor do it. But I just like I need like
(04:13):
assault two to three days of you know, just doing nothing.
Then I was coming off not feeling the best either,
so but yeah, so I sat down and it's gonna
do this. But then of course when I went to
see weapons, means he'll be reviewing weapons tomorrow, so check
that out. Got all these notifications and what I had
heard about this tea, So I'm talking about two rumors
a day, funny enough come from like uh, you know,
(04:34):
similiar inspirations of the cast, not not the the Batman one,
but uh we'll get there in a second. But uh,
super tomin Spider Gwen possibly being in brand new day
which kind of fits with some of the roomers got
early this weekends of my theory. And just a quick
note as far as like, you know, if that's you know,
gonna be maybe copying into the spiders switch, we'll talk
about that, but that I could have waited for it,
(04:56):
even though you know, Gwen one of my favorite characters
I got, you know, name my first weren't after her
that that could wait a little bit because we've kind
of talked about that theory before. Right this one, I
knew it was fates to go. Trask can be his
cherish night. How does he not you know, don't know
what the next newscast is. How does he not talk
about the rob and Batman too? Because that is the
room right now. So here's a quote from this is
coming from a you know, the Gwen rumor's like a
(05:18):
Sea Tier. It's a podcaster, Harla, who I love, you know,
one of my inspirations for you know, getting into podcasting
and whatnot. You know, always hold the shmoon down and everything.
But you know, he would e admit he's like a
Sea Tier. He's gone, you know, a few things right,
but the scoops are more just like people in the industry.
He knows that. Even the scoop it says like he's
(05:38):
ninety percent sure it's going Stacy, so we'll get there.
This that other one comes from just Snyder who in
our circles, especially when I go on Vogger stream Lost,
people do not like just Snyer on there. I'm indifferent.
I get why people don't. I've said before, like the Scooper,
the Scooper madness, all that stuff, like it never makes
me mad. It's just maybe because I'm used to just
sports and wrestling, Like rumors happen all the time that
(06:00):
pan out, don't pan out. You know. I'm like, obviously,
that's why I had the tear ranking right, because that's
a track record. But he's gone lots wrong in the past,
but he's also got lots of right, So I when
I make my tear chart, I don't go into like,
oh this is a good person. I just am a
different I hear him about every week because I like
John Roka. You know John Roka happily you know, a
couple of years ago hostar Marvel Extra Life Trivia, so
(06:20):
that was great, And I've talked to him a couple
of times, and I enjoy all his content. I enjoy,
you know, listening to his takes on the Hot Mic
and whatnot. So that's where I hear it there. But
so even then, you know, he had said like he
didn't want to say it on air, and I feel like,
with this being a bigger story, like obviously the Batman, right,
I didn't think he was gonna run with unless he's
hearing multiple times, because there's lots of stuff that he
(06:41):
will put out on that show that it's just like
I'm kind of hearing or scuttle. But or even then
you could make the argument, oh, maybe he's just trying
to get clicks some for the show, right, But when
it's the newsletter, the specific one, it's like, okay, that's
a bit more. He plays closer to the vest because
you know, obviously people pay for that and then if
it's wrong. But the rumor that was put out was
only a small blurb because he said they only heard
a few things, didn't hear who the film was. But
(07:02):
uh so the film will be a big swing, okay,
we can talk about that will be as dark as
the first Okay. And then Robin is rumored to be
rumored to be a part of The Batman too part two. Okay,
so two things in that dark is the first? No shit,
you know, And I'm not saying that's like like like
(07:22):
like I'm not fucking rain now and Justin and I
I just mean, like, to me, I did not think
James Gunn was gonna be able to sit Matt Dawn like, hey,
could you uh light this one up? But I think
you went a little hard. No, Like, this is a
guy I remember when he took the first meetings for
The Batman. There's rumors that was like a yelling match.
I don't know what ever got there, but there was
rumors that he met with Warner Brothers and they very
much disagreed and then he walked and then they got
(07:43):
him back right. So, to me, he's a guy that
definitely wants to make this stuff. But at the same time,
doesn't everyone compromises and stuff. But like the overall big vision,
I don't think that's where he's gonna go for, right,
So he had that a big swing, like yeah, I
think I wonder if you can hear it. Only you can't.
But there's that's singing Jesus. Like I said, if I die,
(08:04):
this is you know. I love you. I hope you enjoyed.
Please please donate on GV Day if I die, make
it a big trash tribute and pay for my coffin.
You know I'm not being buried. I'm know all I'm doing. No,
I'm just an organ doner. I've said that before. I
guess I'll get creamated. They could take everything from me.
I don't need my eyes. I don't even know. Whatever
they take, take it all, give it somebody. I digress
(08:24):
a big swing. I kind of hope, right, because I
thought the tone and the vibe was a big swing.
But I've heard the argument and not so much as
like a negative, but people say, like, hey, there's almost
two similar beats to this Batman movie or that Batman movie. Right,
I'm just kind of in more of a different esthetic,
different style, different shot style, et cetera, which I would
push back on. I can see there's some similarities, right,
(08:46):
like even just little stuff with Riddler and Batman, with
the interrogation, some of the Joker thing, the planning. You know,
you could break that down, you could go look and
there's many kind of articles, whether it's feel hating or
just point out like, hey, there's some of these beats
that have happened before, and maybe I prefer them in
this movie, right, I don't have that because it happens
along Batman stuff. And to me, what was different was
(09:07):
the vibe what passed and brought to it, even the
Alfred connection, the like I've always wanted, the like I
said for years, I wanted like a Riddler Jigsaw type
and I got that right, So I like that it
is almost a more horror esque Batman that was new
enough for me, and to me, that was already a
big swing. But like it is a seagull, you gotta
take a big swing, right, Could Robin be that big swing? Maybe?
(09:28):
And that's what it's interesting because this I think we
talked about this a long time. Let me see if
I could do a search here because and I don't
know where it came from and it wasn't Snyder. Let's
see Robin Batman Part two. Let's see if the Google
search and you can can find something here. I don't
(09:49):
think so, because I feel like I talked about it. Okay,
let's see. So this was okay, okay, so we're we
just recorded six hundred and seventy third episode Geek first,
and this was a five hundred and seventy eight highlights.
Win was, oh my god, this has taking me to
(10:10):
a whole different like language one. I'm just trying to
get a date. Here? Can I get a date? Let
me do one quick search. The reason I'm bringing this
up and the reason I covered why I don't call
complete bullshow on is because this has happened before. I
think it came from a sea Tier Scooper, and then
the problem was that came from them, and then we
had a lot of different news. I was like, okay,
(10:31):
what's really happening with the Batman right, let's see Okay,
So yeah, geez September eighth, twenty twenty three, that's when
this rumor was kind of bomped around from somebody else.
So that's what's interesting. Where if they heard that and
Obviously lots of stuff changed, right that James Gunn became
dc U Studio, all that shuffling writing the script. We've
(10:53):
heard you know, matt Reees, Dudent's and personal stuff that
delayed the script, etc. Right, So it's one of those
things that Okay, was that a rumor, kind of like
the clay face where it's was that a rumor? And
then okay they went away and we're not doing that anymore?
Or has it just been because it's been so long.
So this has popped up before from other like lower
tier scoopers and whatnot, and this, I'd say Snier is
the highest. I would say that, and I still feel
(11:13):
and I saw about this with Mike and the discord
as always joined discord, and he made some good points.
And don't get me wrong, I think to me, you
tell me Matt Reeves is making calendar man or in
game kite man the number one feeling like, yeah, I
trust matt Reeves, you know, like Matt Reeves, No matter what,
I trust, there's just two minds of me from a
business and a story standpoint. I know what everyone's gonna
(11:35):
say is, you know, I would say, hey, passing year
two very young in his career. I don't think he's
one necessarily ready for robbyet as far as being the
Batman part, and then there's the Bruce Wayne of it all.
Some people would push back along. You know, Batman in
a second year in the com books did get Robin
very different time that was run around with a gun,
(11:57):
you know, you fight giant red apes. I've been looking
into it for no reason at all, but that thing
where a very different type of Batman, right, And the
counterpoint to that is that could make for a very
good story, right because Pattison I would argue, like always,
Bruce Wayne's are fucked up, right, but there's probably levels
to them. I think I've always argued before Pattinson the
(12:18):
Kilmore was probably the most messed up. Keen's just a
weird guy Afflex. You could make that case in BVS
as well, But to me, he's more an angry Batman
than a deranged Batman. Where Pattison, I'm not gonna call
him the range, but he's he is just literally Batman,
which I know everyone says, oh, well, Batman's the real person.
Bruce Wayne's the mask it is, but you still have
(12:39):
to find that inner piece of yourself with Bruce Wayne
to you can't just be Batman all the time, right.
There's those stories too where it's like if Batman just
gets to come by being the you know, having the
cow that you know that goes down a bad path.
And that's many times where the bat family, like you
know Grays and maybe this Robin, they clash because like
he has a hard time becoming a person, but you
still have to be that person, right, Like in a combook,
(13:00):
Batman or Catwoman doesn't marry Batman because she's worried he
wouldn't be Batman enough, and I would you know, not
save the city, but you still have to And that's
the problem with I do think Patons Bruce Wayne, like
not as a critique as like the end character, as
far as he's a recluse, right, he's he does not
go out at all. Obviously still has put a fake
(13:21):
version himself. But he can't just be connected with Alfred
and the bat Cave, right, he has to there has
to be more. So that's where the Robin thing does
make sense. And I think that is a good day.
Like I think it's not the dynamic I want is
per se because I I do really want. I like,
because I'm not trying to sound so negative on this.
(13:42):
I love the Dick Race and Chara Dick Rayson is
my top ten combook characters. Ellie's middle name Grayson after him.
I love their connection even as a kid, though, and
that's where it changed. As a kid. I've said this before,
like Shazam or even Superman Captain America is like the exception,
but like whether they were Goodie Tu Shoe characters or
characters that were kids or like Shozamber, like I'm a
kid with powers, they never spoke to me. I just
(14:04):
liked the adult characters more. And then as I grew older,
You're not that much older. But obviously Batman and the
animated series help. But I did appreciate Robin and appreciated
their relationship. Obviously I cannot relate because you know, yeah,
I can relate in the sense I can't relate. I
don't have my you know, I'm adopted and whatnot. But
(14:26):
I'll just say someone close to me is semi adopted
in a sense, right, And I think there's an interesting
dynamic there all the time. As far as always you
want the person that if they just love you, that's
your family. Blood doesn't matter. You know, there's people I
would consider. I have a anti Donna who's not blood
really at all, but she's been around my whole life
and could trust her with my kids everything like that, right,
(14:46):
a great person. So that's anti Donn. So I think
that's the thing, especially when you take Bruce wayne broken
character Richard Grayson after which you know, I think they
just call him that. No one's name Dick anymore. Okay,
just call him Richard Grayson. Don't gonna call Rick, but
Richard Grayson. That's another broken character, right, but a little
bit different. And that's some of the good things that
Bruce Wayne does is the mistakes he made growing up
(15:09):
to become Batman. He tries to not do that with
Dick so he won't be so shut down because Batman
knows that Bruce Wayne's a fucked up person. Right. So
that's the thing where it's like, okay, that that is intriguing,
even though there's parts of where I just go like,
I feel Pattison's character there's more solo avengers to be
had with him. Again, you can make the argument that's
the most interesting time to PLoP them in there. But
(15:30):
for me, I said this, Mike, where I'd almost wanted
to be in the whole trilogy. Then of the Grayson
shooting happened. He adopts some you know, he adopt some
of the second movies about more of the adoption of
them together than the third one. He's Robin, right, So
it just there's already so much going on in those movies,
and it's it's a weird thing where we already got Joker,
and maybe that that's the idea is matt Ree's gonna
(15:52):
have a bunch of villain's team up, so it makes
it a little easier with another Robin there. Yeah, I
don't I don't know. I trust matt Reeves, so I
think it's going to be great, but obviously if it's not,
i'll call it out, like like The Dark Knight Rises, Right,
I love it. There's many things that I couldn't call great.
I think that movie has a lot of issues, like
me and Emily just watching it recently, a lot of issues.
(16:12):
But I still love that movie. So it can even
be that where hey, this Rob stuff whatever, it didn't
really work out, but hey, I still enjoy X Y
and Z, right, So we'll see what happens there. So
the quality side, I'm with Matt Reeves, not if you're
on all, but the story I come back and forth
because I've always just been thinking about, well, it's the
next step of Batman, you know, whether he's become Bruce,
(16:35):
Wayne or Moore. He says, like, I have to be
more for the city of him fine tuning Batman. If
it is just the Graysons and the adoption in this,
that's a little more of an easier pill to swall.
I think, right if it's kind of like a big
setup for three and that's where you pop Boom Robin
and who knows which one you get, Obviously we're gonna
help about in the second. I don't mean to be Damien.
So the other options are Tam Drake. I guess there's
(16:57):
Carry cull but Tim Drake, Jason Todd, and Richard Grayson.
For me, I hope it's Richard Grayson because like, I'm
not a Tim Drake fan. Tim Drake kind of overrated. Uh,
just poking those fans because I know him. But like
there's that with Jason Todd that comes with a whole
bunch of baggage, and I'd rather do that in the
DCU as far as him dying come back as red Hood,
(17:17):
et cetera. And to me, what sucks about braining the
bold if that does happen, you know, I'm I'm I'm
buying them the James dogs me of like, I know
James Gunn is lying about this, but I can't prove it.
You know, I still don't know if I would pizza
bet that that Passing will be there. But I still
think they're leaving the doors open. Right, Like when James
Gun's intern interview, he'll say no, no, that's not happening, and
(17:39):
then the next interview, well, everything's in flux and we'll
see what happens. It's like, why don't you ever just
keep saying no, that's not happening, No, that's not happening.
It's always going back and forth, right, And I think,
because I've said this many times, if reason Passing went
to him and said, you know what, change your minds?
We want to be in this, James Gunn opens the door.
I don't care what everyone says. Well, you already said
that it's gonna be Damian Wayne's brain, even the bowl,
(18:00):
and he said, ah, you know what I should mind?
That's all. You know why, because he's the fucking co
head of c DC Studios, just like the authorities no
longer like people and people, not that I want that,
but people can change their minds, right. So it's like
when Peter he said that that's what's happening, He's like,
that's not a reason for it to just be happening, right,
(18:21):
I digress. So Richard, I like because with the Bringing
the Bowld, if we're doing Damien, who knows what's happening
with Jason and Tim, But that would at least me
say that, Okay, we've had a dick race and we've
jumped over and yeah, sure we'll seem as night Wing,
but I mean some flashbacks, but we don't get that dynamic. Right,
It's the same reason why, and we'll see what happens.
(18:42):
But like with that pitch going around, remember that Zach Gregor,
which you know, after Weapons I'd be down to see
and after Barbara downcy. But he was pitching the rumors.
He wants to pitch a joker on Harley Quinn movie. Right,
I know what that movie is. The rumor is it's
about to be you know, it's about you know, uh
a goon and like in that squad it's supposed to
kind of take place. It's inspired by the Brian az
(19:03):
Arela Joker, where if you follow a goon one of
jokers goons, it's like a night out with the Joker.
I think that's a great concept, especially make that cheap
and little budget else world great. I don't know if
they're gonna actually go for it, but whatever, or even
if you get Barry's Joker and try to pitch Matt
Reeves and work that, and I don't know if he
wants to Harley Quinn. I digress. My point is that
I'm disappointed that we're just going from there's no Richard Grayson,
(19:26):
the adopted, you know, little Kid's Son. It's gonna be
I'm a man, I'm night wing. I look after blood Haven.
It's the same thing with Joker and Harley, where I
know some of that isn't supposed to the aircut, but
what the cut we have is not in there. There's
some delete scenes, but it's not in there. And I
was hoping Joker and Harley would do this, but they didn't.
I've always wanted to see the dandamic like I don't
want to get to the point where Harley Quinn is
(19:48):
a I'm a hero anti hero, I've broken my own No,
I want the story. I want the meeting Joker, her
being a therapist, a psychiatrist, going through the motions, him
gas her, twisting her like just using her, and then boom,
then the turn happens. Right now, DCU could do that right,
But it's kind of the same thing with me and
Richard Grayson were like, absolutely, I love night Wing. I
(20:11):
loved That's one of my favorite caution designs. I want
him to get there same time. I would want the
journey there, and I don't think we're getting that now. Granted,
in matt Rees's story, I don't think we'd begin the
journey either the night Wing, but I think there was
a great story of a real journey Offviously, there's many
comics Robin's Reckoning does in the animated series. I think
there is a tenant and combook story about the adoption
(20:32):
of a broken child and especially passins. Bruce Wayne did
like that Halloween night where he sees that kid murder
and he stares at him in the funeral right when
that car is going. He makes sure he saves that kid.
You can make that case that he's the most almost
like set up for a Robin thing, right, So I
definitely see the path. It's just for me gonna take
some getting used to because I didn't think we're going
that way to pass them. And then the elf in
(20:53):
the room is I thought, okay, they're definitely like those
rumors to me were kind of shut down, Like when
was so that was the timber right, No, that was
at the same time. Yeah, yeah, so that's the thing
where originally, like these rumors came out when the slate
had came out, but originally when James Gonna put the
slate out, and honestly some lost things have changed. But said, hey,
we're doing Brain the Bowl. I thought, perfect, what a
(21:14):
way you got solo young Batman by himself and got
them a bit more darker seven Matt Reies type of style. Right, great,
And then the counterpoint is, hey, we got Batman's a
bit more lighthearted and we got a Robin and that
it's his son, which you've never seen before, which is
a hook for me. I just like on a business sense,
I'm not sure if that's been part of the issues
as well too, as far as who knows we can
(21:36):
this is why I hope they happen the rob Ones.
I don't even know if I hope they haven't, because
that's dangerous. But we can live in a world where
let's say Batman comes up twenty twenty seven and then
brain Bowl comes up to twenty nine, and they're both hits,
even twenty twenty eight, both hits. Right, people love Batman.
They'll just take all the Batman they want, right, or
we live in a world where people go, ah, you know,
I got my Batman. I like pass them. I don't
need to switch. I can skip this Batman. But at
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least before it was like, okay, you could have the
style of even those people might be like, I don't
really like those pass and it's kind of slow, it's
kind of darker. I'd like some of that more, you know,
keen ish, you know, like what he was doing in
the Flash Batman hand made series type of Batman. Right,
we're gonna allow to cargoing by, so I'm gonna take
a drink right now, big old truck. But anyways, I thought,
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I don't know if this will be successful, but at
least I can see the like I was saying, solo
Dark Batman a bit more comic Bookie Batman with Robin
perfect so throw all the story stuff. I don't know
what you do if both movies have a Robin that
that to me feels like obviously the Brain in the
Bowl will be more comic Bookie, It'll be more lighthearted,
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I imagine in the vein of Superman, because Gun still says
he don't want to make a cheesy, funny Batman. But
still I think I think there'll be a bit more
of that in there right, a bit more accessible. But
the fact that it's like a rob and I just
feel like, like, I just think many general audiences will
look at a poster and then look at Bradon Bull
like a I just saw a Robin Batman movie, Like
I don't need to see that. And especially with the Batman,
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I still think they're gonna get a star in my opinion.
I don't know, just because just a differentiate from Rob Passon.
Who knows, But yeah, I just don't know what that's
gonna mean for that. I know the the tinfoil at
theory is and maybe this is just Brave in the
Bowl and they'll just change a few things and you
never know, maybe it is they did put out today.
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That's filming in spring of next year, so it's good
to know. So probably in the fall coming up here,
we're gonna start getting some casting, maybe even early twenty
twenty six. But that's very exciting. But yeah, I don't know.
To me, I think that makes it less likely both
Batman movies can succeed unless they are very far apart. Right,
If bradon the Bowl is three to four years later,
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then sure, But at the same time, maybe they're not concerned.
I've said this before, where I think the Batman Part
two is for sure happening. Batman Part three that's a
bit more iffy. So that's why I hope this movie
does well and Gangbusters because like, at least that'll be like, hey,
you should make another one because it's a proven kommanity, right,
And as we've seen with Marvel and DC, you want
proven Kamani's because there's a lot of things you know,
(24:17):
d see the past couple of years, Marvel, the past
year and a half with the Marvels and Thunderbolts and
Brand New World, they're not guaranteed winners. So it's hard
to look at the Batman too. And if it does well,
be like, you know what, that's great, but what brain
the bol We're doing our Robin again, very similar, and
I guess you're pitch as well. This one's his son. Yeah,
there is a very different story with Damian Wayne versus
Richard Grayson, right, And that's where again you got to
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get a a very different director. That's gonna and Andy
is a very different director, but I think you might
have to go a different round and get somebody with
a bit more style in my opinion, if it's gonna
be literally two Batman movies Robin, So we'll see. I'm
iffy on all this, but I'm wondering when the scene
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was back. We'll know, right because if that is right
now they're planning feeling that was from Zazzal's in company
that they're planning filming in the spring. Will know if
this is true or not. And again, maybe it's just
Dick Race and maybe it's just the setup, and that
I think is a bit more easier for me because
then it's like, Okay, you kind of get two Batman
films by himself, and then the third one is that
but you know, we'll see if that happens. And then
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the other room, Yeah, the Gwen Stacy thing rumors. So
Harlof put out that, like I said, ce Tier even
the Sea Tier said hey, it's nine percent, but put
out that Staycing is playing Gwen Stacy. Now, for me,
I really want this to happen because I wanted another
live action Gwen Stacy. I think that it fits with
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the rumors we've heard so far that she's playing like
a character named Carly or something like that, or Kaylee.
But and she's a scientist. But really it's to hide
who she's actually playing, right, similar like MJ and Homecoming
where she was Michelle and then they that, right, And
I don't know if they would reveal this in the movie,
the Gwen Stacy thing and marketing, et cetera. I don't know.
And I do think if she's Gwen Stacy, I think
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there's a good chance she could be Spider Whinning from
another dimension. Now, the tough thing is is that's kind
of just Spider verse, right, Like if it's a character, Like,
let's say something happens Doom's fucking around the multiverse, Gwen
gets thrown in our universe, doesn't know she gets there,
and she's gonna lie and she knows Peter and she's
gonna find her way back, et cetera, et cetera. Right,
(26:30):
it is just that, and sometimes that happens. That's fine.
You can have similar beats, but that just feels almost
way too similar to me. But if that's the only
way we can get it, then fine. Because I don't
think they're gonna put a Spider Gwen in the current
MC six one six timeline. And as I just talked
about on the last our newscast to go back to check,
we talked about whole bunch of more Spider myself, it's
(26:52):
been a very spider week. But as I've said on
that cast and many times before, you can't, in my opinion,
in the story andline never makes sense. And they've done
this all the time many common movies. Right, you know,
love interested, it's too dangerous with you, I can't be
with you. And then he leaves her, right, and then
(27:12):
they meets a new girl, Well let me try it
out with this girl. And it's like no, no, no, unless
that girl or guy is superpowered crime fighter, what's the difference.
Then you're putting that person in danger. You're saying, well,
I'm willing to put you in danger. But I can't
put MG in danger right, Like, that doesn't make sense.
So that's why to me, it has to be if
it is Spider Gwen, a Spider Gwen character like her
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with those abilities, because if she's just I don't know,
right Gwen Stacy, I'll still take that. Don't get me wrong,
love Gwen Stacy, so I'll take the character. And I
think Sadie Sink is like really perfect for that type
of vibe. I think she can do both the kind
of lovable and sweet side again Gwen, but also the
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she doesn't have the same type of attitude as MJ.
But Gwen, especially an ultimate can be a little you know,
up in Peter's face when she wants to and they
say he singund definitely do that. It would be funny
she has to dye her hair, because you know, we've
had a lot of that with Duns and Stone and
now with her. And for me though, the reason I
want the most is not just because I love that character,
want back in live action. And at the same time,
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if you ask me if she's just regular Gwen and
they become love interests, I will still bring it up
as like an annoyance. But then I'll move on and
be happy Gwen Stacey's there. It's kind of like how
I always bring up in every mission impossible retro we
did of like oh, Ethan Hunt is excommunicated again every time,
like the he saves the world, like we should never
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doubt you Ethan, and the next week were like Ethan's
a spy, he's a bad guy. Oh this time he's
turning against his country because we've cast him out so
many times. He's like, oh, this is can we think
of anything else? So the same thing I will bring
up as a little of annoyance and maybe they find
a way to write the way out of it right.
But for me what I want and there is my
pict Triff said before, I think it's purvocasting and she's
playing that either way Spider, Gwen or just when stacem
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down for I think another reason why it's fun. It's
kind of like what we talked about with Mayde. But
I've said this before, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating
myself for people. But in case you haven't heard, it's
it's builds off knowing home perfectly. It's the same reason
why I want a Norman and Harry because I think
when you have Andrew Garfield, you know, Bear's soul out,
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and you know they're talking about their you know Mary
Jane's and MJ's yet Da da da, and you know
he's like, oh I lost Gwen my MJ. So I
just think there's something really cool and that's why I
think they'd be down to do it. Norman as well.
But I think there's a really fun plot point of
Peter Parker going to college at a job just somewhere
right and you're say, hey, go on Stacy or just
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like the second he would hear that name, he would
track it and be like the same way people have said,
you know, we'd theorize this already. And knowing Home, but
especially the suit, it's like, oh, maybe he's taking the
inspiration from Toby and Andrew right because it looks like
a cammbo theirs. So honestly, and I think they portray
this very well in Known Way Home. They had great
chemistry they got to get them back together. Should have
done this way more multiple times. I think, in my opinion,
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to make a bunch of money and make me happy.
But he bond with them and I think they mean
a lot, so I don't think it's like he's gonna
forget that and that was after his aunt, I right,
So I feel like you would remember those speeches so
to me anywhere he is, and if he hears the
name Gwen, it has a sort of like, oh my God,
like am I destined to be at this person? Like
is it? You know, it's like a time traveler thing
(30:28):
where if you hear like even back to the future,
I've compared with may Day, I would prefer this more. Like,
don't get wrong, I think there's some fun if it
was Toby Kirk, Toby and Dunt's daughter and they got
kicked in the universe and you know that's your daughter
and there's that push and pull that is fun. But
I'm a bigger Gwen Stacy fan, so I would like that.
And then the tough thing is That's why I still
think it'd had to be Spider Gwen, because I don't
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think he would end up like Mary Jane's still round.
She's eventually gonna remember them and they're gonna they're gonna
be endgame, right, But I still think that would be
kind of fun, even if they had like a little fling,
you know, like that would be fun even it's a
flirty fling and she goes back to your universe kind
of what they did with Miles, right, But to me,
I think, especially in that mark, like you could market
the fuck out of that too. They got Haulc and Punisher,
(31:10):
but imagine the stinger of like you know, it's Halc
and Punisher and Sperm. They're about to fight and then
they do like the you know, Spiderman theme, and the
logo shoots up and then it's fade to black and
they come back up and at Stadie Sink and like, Oh,
I'm Peter Parker. What's your name? Oh I'm Gwen, Gwen
Stacy And it's like, oh, you know, like it's it's
a layup. It's sitting right there. And because like I
said that, that brings up especially with knowing that's another
(31:34):
thing too, like off, see, every universe is different, right,
but if you if I'm in another Travis and they're like,
oh yeah, like I love Dammling, Like what do you mean, like,
oh yeah, she dies off se multiverse always different. But
it's like that'd be in the back of Peter's mind too.
That's a good way if they make her just a
regular Gwen let's say they have some some connection and
she does really want to be with them, and it's
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like he already left MJ because he doesn't want to
put he in danger, and now he's dating something that
he knows in another universe, like gets killed for being
with Spider Man. Like there's tons of good relationship drama there.
So like, when's the one I'm pulling for the most
out of here? And I like that, you know, they
said harlove see Tyr, so we'll see. But like the
fact that it's getting rumored a little bit, and like
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I said, he's gone stuff right before he had Hulk
as well in Spider Man, that was part of his
source as well, like back in the day, So I
hope when that source also has that. And yeah, either way,
there's tons of ways even if it doesn't become romantic,
there's tons of fun ways to cover that, right, So yeah,
there you go. I've covered those two. Uh yeah, I
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got you know, Deckster coming up weapons some fun reviews.
But if I don't see then I'll see you for
geek first day and I won't be boring. Thank you.
Hello ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to Trash. Told you didn't
a prompt to bone a second episode of my Week
of the Week. I think it says it's my week.
Oh my yes, I had not planned this. The reason
is as usual, pimodent one last time. Probably will a
couple more times, but key first day, August ninth, ten
am PSD. We're starting. We're doing ten hour stream, could
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or up your subscription is going towards the back half,
but more importantly the twenty twenty six content and you
know whatnot so it's you know, side quests, the gimmick
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the extra time so we can create all that content.
So we'd very much appreciate you that geek first, you know,
send a little bit and if not, that's completely fine.
Just come watch. Just give me a fun day. No
ads on the stream reason law, it's a licensed music ram.
It's our ten year we're having a good time. It's
that we're going to multiple locations. Yeah, there's tons of stuff.
(01:04):
There's ninety minutes worth, maybe a little bit more of
a combo of different footage, whether it's tribute, best of
voices from the past, announcements. Yeah, it's a it's it's
a lot bigger than I thought it was gonna be.
I had to message the boys. I messaged the boys,
and for some reason, the Discord just like did not
send my mess up like it sent it. And then
(01:24):
I open up Discord and it was gone. It was
super fucking weird. But anyways, So it's also the second
time I'm recording the opening of this because I record
the opening with my I better check this again with
my my Mac speaker, not even the microphone. I'm sure
it sounded awful, but I'm like, ah, I can't do that.
But uh yeah, a little longer than I thought so,
(01:45):
And that's why why I'm recording this is because I
every time geek first t Day sit down and record
like a two minute Hey, here's our schedule. Just a
reminder of anybody if they want to tune in and
this is the events. There's some stuff that's gonna shuffle
around just because there are some stuff that's longer. But yeah,
it's going to be a fair very good time. It's,
you know, our end game. It's a culmination and whatnot.
You know, if I do die, let me know because
(02:07):
or let people know. Use this video. Tell the police.
Heard someone cough. But then like ten minutes ago while
I was out here and heard it multiple times. It's
got a couple of blocks over, so I think completely fine.
I'm on a patio. It's patio pod right now. But
it was somebody like singing, like very like you, thorough singing,
like not like definitely probably homeless person or drunk person,
(02:27):
but not like me, not anything like that. But it
was like Jersey, very creepy. Give me some ideas for
a s IDEO. I was like, oh, I don't like this.
It's late at night and that's what's happening. But the
reason so I was gonna be sitting down record the
schedule anyway, is to send out for the day, just
a reminder and give everyone the rundown. Hey, this is
what's happening, you know. On August ninth, ten hours could
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go longer. Like we said, if you do one of
those things that do the stretch goals and there is
you know, benefits, things are unlock announcements, more content we'll do,
et cetera. So check out. Uh And like I said,
I'm recording the schedule. But that's why today just gonna
be like or this episode just going to be like
twenty to thirty minutes, not gonna be a big one,
just some quick hits. Because also I don't know when
the next time we're doing cat news. I know after this,
(03:10):
I'm gonna take a little break because my brain is
just shot. Other than when Valerie was in the nick you,
I think this is the most shot my brain has been,
even more than twenty four hour streams because I've been
editing a lot of videos and whatnot. And when I
started like, oh, put this clip there, the scope there,
and now when I look at something, Mike, is this
that I use this clip and I look like al right,
I three times is doing a video. I was like, oh,
this is a good clip, like already put this in here.
(03:31):
Like my brain shot it was. I'm excited to be
done it. And for the fifteen year, Meg will make
a nice little video, but I'm not doing this extensive
thing again until like the twentieth. But I hope you
all enjoyed. I think it's going to be a it's
gonna I know, it's gonna be very good time. It's
gonna be one for the ages. Like I said, it's
kind of our our our end game in a sense.
But anyway, so I send down to record that, and
(03:52):
I don't know when newscats and then other thing is
because Dylan's here in person, but he doesn't know how long,
and obviously his friends and family he also wants to
see as well, So we're trying to do it in
person cast that would maybe be news or maybe do
like a Patron special. We don't know. But the thing is,
I'm at least like until Alien Earth, and even then,
if I'm not recovered by Tuesday, I'll at Kirkland and
Taylor do it. But I just like I need like
(04:13):
assault two to three days of you know, just doing nothing.
Then I was coming off not feeling the best either,
so but yeah, so I sat down and it's gonna
do this. But then of course when I went to
see weapons, means he'll be reviewing weapons tomorrow, so check
that out. Got all these notifications and what I had
heard about this tea, So I'm talking about two rumors
a day, funny enough come from like uh, you know,
(04:34):
similiar inspirations of the cast, not not the the Batman one,
but uh we'll get there in a second. But uh,
super tomin Spider Gwen possibly being in brand new day
which kind of fits with some of the roomers got
early this weekends of my theory. And just a quick
note as far as like, you know, if that's you know,
gonna be maybe copying into the spiders switch, we'll talk
about that, but that I could have waited for it,
(04:56):
even though you know, Gwen one of my favorite characters
I got, you know, name my first weren't after her
that that could wait a little bit because we've kind
of talked about that theory before. Right this one, I
knew it was fates to go. Trask can be his
cherish night. How does he not you know, don't know
what the next newscast is. How does he not talk
about the rob and Batman too? Because that is the
room right now. So here's a quote from this is
coming from a you know, the Gwen rumor's like a
(05:18):
Sea Tier. It's a podcaster, Harla, who I love, you know,
one of my inspirations for you know, getting into podcasting
and whatnot. You know, always hold the shmoon down and everything.
But you know, he would e admit he's like a
Sea Tier. He's gone, you know, a few things right,
but the scoops are more just like people in the industry.
He knows that. Even the scoop it says like he's
(05:38):
ninety percent sure it's going Stacy, so we'll get there.
This that other one comes from just Snyder who in
our circles, especially when I go on Vogger stream Lost,
people do not like just Snyer on there. I'm indifferent.
I get why people don't. I've said before, like the Scooper,
the Scooper madness, all that stuff, like it never makes
me mad. It's just maybe because I'm used to just
sports and wrestling, Like rumors happen all the time that
(06:00):
pan out, don't pan out. You know. I'm like, obviously,
that's why I had the tear ranking right, because that's
a track record. But he's gone lots wrong in the past,
but he's also got lots of right, So I when
I make my tear chart, I don't go into like,
oh this is a good person. I just am a
different I hear him about every week because I like
John Roka. You know John Roka happily you know, a
couple of years ago hostar Marvel Extra Life Trivia, so
(06:20):
that was great, And I've talked to him a couple
of times, and I enjoy all his content. I enjoy,
you know, listening to his takes on the Hot Mic
and whatnot. So that's where I hear it there. But
so even then, you know, he had said like he
didn't want to say it on air, and I feel like,
with this being a bigger story, like obviously the Batman, right,
I didn't think he was gonna run with unless he's
hearing multiple times, because there's lots of stuff that he
(06:41):
will put out on that show that it's just like
I'm kind of hearing or scuttle. But or even then
you could make the argument, oh, maybe he's just trying
to get clicks some for the show, right, But when
it's the newsletter, the specific one, it's like, okay, that's
a bit more. He plays closer to the vest because
you know, obviously people pay for that and then if
it's wrong. But the rumor that was put out was
only a small blurb because he said they only heard
a few things, didn't hear who the film was. But
(07:02):
uh so the film will be a big swing, okay,
we can talk about that will be as dark as
the first Okay. And then Robin is rumored to be
rumored to be a part of The Batman too part two. Okay,
so two things in that dark is the first? No shit,
you know, And I'm not saying that's like like like
(07:22):
like I'm not fucking rain now and Justin and I
I just mean, like, to me, I did not think
James Gunn was gonna be able to sit Matt Dawn like, hey,
could you uh light this one up? But I think
you went a little hard. No, Like, this is a
guy I remember when he took the first meetings for
The Batman. There's rumors that was like a yelling match.
I don't know what ever got there, but there was
rumors that he met with Warner Brothers and they very
much disagreed and then he walked and then they got
(07:43):
him back right. So, to me, he's a guy that
definitely wants to make this stuff. But at the same time,
doesn't everyone compromises and stuff. But like the overall big vision,
I don't think that's where he's gonna go for, right,
So he had that a big swing, like yeah, I
think I wonder if you can hear it. Only you can't.
But there's that's singing Jesus. Like I said, if I die,
(08:04):
this is you know. I love you. I hope you enjoyed.
Please please donate on GV Day if I die, make
it a big trash tribute and pay for my coffin.
You know I'm not being buried. I'm know all I'm doing. No,
I'm just an organ doner. I've said that before. I
guess I'll get creamated. They could take everything from me.
I don't need my eyes. I don't even know. Whatever
they take, take it all, give it somebody. I digress
(08:24):
a big swing. I kind of hope, right, because I
thought the tone and the vibe was a big swing.
But I've heard the argument and not so much as
like a negative, but people say, like, hey, there's almost
two similar beats to this Batman movie or that Batman movie. Right,
I'm just kind of in more of a different esthetic,
different style, different shot style, et cetera, which I would
push back on. I can see there's some similarities, right,
(08:46):
like even just little stuff with Riddler and Batman, with
the interrogation, some of the Joker thing, the planning. You know,
you could break that down, you could go look and
there's many kind of articles, whether it's feel hating or
just point out like, hey, there's some of these beats
that have happened before, and maybe I prefer them in
this movie, right, I don't have that because it happens
along Batman stuff. And to me, what was different was
(09:07):
the vibe what passed and brought to it, even the
Alfred connection, the like I've always wanted, the like I
said for years, I wanted like a Riddler Jigsaw type
and I got that right, So I like that it
is almost a more horror esque Batman that was new
enough for me, and to me, that was already a
big swing. But like it is a seagull, you gotta
take a big swing, right, Could Robin be that big swing? Maybe?
(09:28):
And that's what it's interesting because this I think we
talked about this a long time. Let me see if
I could do a search here because and I don't
know where it came from and it wasn't Snyder. Let's
see Robin Batman Part two. Let's see if the Google
search and you can can find something here. I don't
(09:49):
think so, because I feel like I talked about it. Okay,
let's see. So this was okay, okay, so we're we
just recorded six hundred and seventy third episode Geek first,
and this was a five hundred and seventy eight highlights.
Win was, oh my god, this has taking me to
(10:10):
a whole different like language one. I'm just trying to
get a date. Here? Can I get a date? Let
me do one quick search. The reason I'm bringing this
up and the reason I covered why I don't call
complete bullshow on is because this has happened before. I
think it came from a sea Tier Scooper, and then
the problem was that came from them, and then we
had a lot of different news. I was like, okay,
(10:31):
what's really happening with the Batman right, let's see Okay,
So yeah, geez September eighth, twenty twenty three, that's when
this rumor was kind of bomped around from somebody else.
So that's what's interesting. Where if they heard that and
Obviously lots of stuff changed, right that James Gunn became
dc U Studio, all that shuffling writing the script. We've
(10:53):
heard you know, matt Reees, Dudent's and personal stuff that
delayed the script, etc. Right, So it's one of those
things that Okay, was that a rumor, kind of like
the clay face where it's was that a rumor? And
then okay they went away and we're not doing that anymore?
Or has it just been because it's been so long.
So this has popped up before from other like lower
tier scoopers and whatnot, and this, I'd say Snier is
the highest. I would say that, and I still feel
(11:13):
and I saw about this with Mike and the discord
as always joined discord, and he made some good points.
And don't get me wrong, I think to me, you
tell me Matt Reeves is making calendar man or in
game kite man the number one feeling like, yeah, I
trust matt Reeves, you know, like Matt Reeves, No matter what,
I trust, there's just two minds of me from a
business and a story standpoint. I know what everyone's gonna
(11:35):
say is, you know, I would say, hey, passing year
two very young in his career. I don't think he's
one necessarily ready for robbyet as far as being the
Batman part, and then there's the Bruce Wayne of it all.
Some people would push back along. You know, Batman in
a second year in the com books did get Robin
very different time that was run around with a gun,
(11:57):
you know, you fight giant red apes. I've been looking
into it for no reason at all, but that thing
where a very different type of Batman, right, And the
counterpoint to that is that could make for a very
good story, right because Pattison I would argue, like always,
Bruce Wayne's are fucked up, right, but there's probably levels
to them. I think I've always argued before Pattinson the
(12:18):
Kilmore was probably the most messed up. Keen's just a
weird guy Afflex. You could make that case in BVS
as well, But to me, he's more an angry Batman
than a deranged Batman. Where Pattison, I'm not gonna call
him the range, but he's he is just literally Batman,
which I know everyone says, oh, well, Batman's the real person.
Bruce Wayne's the mask it is, but you still have
(12:39):
to find that inner piece of yourself with Bruce Wayne
to you can't just be Batman all the time, right.
There's those stories too where it's like if Batman just
gets to come by being the you know, having the
cow that you know that goes down a bad path.
And that's many times where the bat family, like you
know Grays and maybe this Robin, they clash because like
he has a hard time becoming a person, but you
still have to be that person, right, Like in a combook,
(13:00):
Batman or Catwoman doesn't marry Batman because she's worried he
wouldn't be Batman enough, and I would you know, not
save the city, but you still have to And that's
the problem with I do think Patons Bruce Wayne, like
not as a critique as like the end character, as
far as he's a recluse, right, he's he does not
go out at all. Obviously still has put a fake
(13:21):
version himself. But he can't just be connected with Alfred
and the bat Cave, right, he has to there has
to be more. So that's where the Robin thing does
make sense. And I think that is a good day.
Like I think it's not the dynamic I want is
per se because I I do really want. I like,
because I'm not trying to sound so negative on this.
(13:42):
I love the Dick Race and Chara Dick Rayson is
my top ten combook characters. Ellie's middle name Grayson after him.
I love their connection even as a kid, though, and
that's where it changed. As a kid. I've said this before,
like Shazam or even Superman Captain America is like the exception,
but like whether they were Goodie Tu Shoe characters or
characters that were kids or like Shozamber, like I'm a
kid with powers, they never spoke to me. I just
(14:04):
liked the adult characters more. And then as I grew older,
You're not that much older. But obviously Batman and the
animated series help. But I did appreciate Robin and appreciated
their relationship. Obviously I cannot relate because you know, yeah,
I can relate in the sense I can't relate. I
don't have my you know, I'm adopted and whatnot. But
(14:26):
I'll just say someone close to me is semi adopted
in a sense, right, And I think there's an interesting
dynamic there all the time. As far as always you
want the person that if they just love you, that's
your family. Blood doesn't matter. You know, there's people I
would consider. I have a anti Donna who's not blood
really at all, but she's been around my whole life
and could trust her with my kids everything like that, right,
(14:46):
a great person. So that's anti Donn. So I think
that's the thing, especially when you take Bruce wayne broken
character Richard Grayson after which you know, I think they
just call him that. No one's name Dick anymore. Okay,
just call him Richard Grayson. Don't gonna call Rick, but
Richard Grayson. That's another broken character, right, but a little
bit different. And that's some of the good things that
Bruce Wayne does is the mistakes he made growing up
(15:09):
to become Batman. He tries to not do that with
Dick so he won't be so shut down because Batman
knows that Bruce Wayne's a fucked up person. Right. So
that's the thing where it's like, okay, that that is intriguing,
even though there's parts of where I just go like,
I feel Pattison's character there's more solo avengers to be
had with him. Again, you can make the argument that's
the most interesting time to PLoP them in there. But
(15:30):
for me, I said this, Mike, where I'd almost wanted
to be in the whole trilogy. Then of the Grayson
shooting happened. He adopts some you know, he adopt some
of the second movies about more of the adoption of
them together than the third one. He's Robin, right, So
it just there's already so much going on in those movies,
and it's it's a weird thing where we already got Joker,
and maybe that that's the idea is matt Ree's gonna
(15:52):
have a bunch of villain's team up, so it makes
it a little easier with another Robin there. Yeah, I
don't I don't know. I trust matt Reeves, so I
think it's going to be great, but obviously if it's not,
i'll call it out, like like The Dark Knight Rises, Right,
I love it. There's many things that I couldn't call great.
I think that movie has a lot of issues, like
me and Emily just watching it recently, a lot of issues.
(16:12):
But I still love that movie. So it can even
be that where hey, this Rob stuff whatever, it didn't
really work out, but hey, I still enjoy X Y
and Z, right, So we'll see what happens there. So
the quality side, I'm with Matt Reeves, not if you're
on all, but the story I come back and forth
because I've always just been thinking about, well, it's the
next step of Batman, you know, whether he's become Bruce,
(16:35):
Wayne or Moore. He says, like, I have to be
more for the city of him fine tuning Batman. If
it is just the Graysons and the adoption in this,
that's a little more of an easier pill to swall.
I think, right if it's kind of like a big
setup for three and that's where you pop Boom Robin
and who knows which one you get, Obviously we're gonna
help about in the second. I don't mean to be Damien.
So the other options are Tam Drake. I guess there's
(16:57):
Carry cull but Tim Drake, Jason Todd, and Richard Grayson.
For me, I hope it's Richard Grayson because like, I'm
not a Tim Drake fan. Tim Drake kind of overrated. Uh,
just poking those fans because I know him. But like
there's that with Jason Todd that comes with a whole
bunch of baggage, and I'd rather do that in the
DCU as far as him dying come back as red Hood,
(17:17):
et cetera. And to me, what sucks about braining the
bold if that does happen, you know, I'm I'm I'm
buying them the James dogs me of like, I know
James Gunn is lying about this, but I can't prove it.
You know, I still don't know if I would pizza
bet that that Passing will be there. But I still
think they're leaving the doors open. Right, Like when James
Gun's intern interview, he'll say no, no, that's not happening, and
(17:39):
then the next interview, well, everything's in flux and we'll
see what happens. It's like, why don't you ever just
keep saying no, that's not happening, No, that's not happening.
It's always going back and forth, right, And I think,
because I've said this many times, if reason Passing went
to him and said, you know what, change your minds?
We want to be in this, James Gunn opens the door.
I don't care what everyone says. Well, you already said
that it's gonna be Damian Wayne's brain, even the bowl,
(18:00):
and he said, ah, you know what I should mind?
That's all. You know why, because he's the fucking co
head of c DC Studios, just like the authorities no
longer like people and people, not that I want that,
but people can change their minds, right. So it's like
when Peter he said that that's what's happening, He's like,
that's not a reason for it to just be happening, right,
(18:21):
I digress. So Richard, I like because with the Bringing
the Bowld, if we're doing Damien, who knows what's happening
with Jason and Tim, But that would at least me
say that, Okay, we've had a dick race and we've
jumped over and yeah, sure we'll seem as night Wing,
but I mean some flashbacks, but we don't get that dynamic. Right,
It's the same reason why, and we'll see what happens.
(18:42):
But like with that pitch going around, remember that Zach Gregor,
which you know, after Weapons I'd be down to see
and after Barbara downcy. But he was pitching the rumors.
He wants to pitch a joker on Harley Quinn movie. Right,
I know what that movie is. The rumor is it's
about to be you know, it's about you know, uh
a goon and like in that squad it's supposed to
kind of take place. It's inspired by the Brian az
(19:03):
Arela Joker, where if you follow a goon one of
jokers goons, it's like a night out with the Joker.
I think that's a great concept, especially make that cheap
and little budget else world great. I don't know if
they're gonna actually go for it, but whatever, or even
if you get Barry's Joker and try to pitch Matt
Reeves and work that, and I don't know if he
wants to Harley Quinn. I digress. My point is that
I'm disappointed that we're just going from there's no Richard Grayson,
(19:26):
the adopted, you know, little Kid's Son. It's gonna be
I'm a man, I'm night wing. I look after blood Haven.
It's the same thing with Joker and Harley, where I
know some of that isn't supposed to the aircut, but
what the cut we have is not in there. There's
some delete scenes, but it's not in there. And I
was hoping Joker and Harley would do this, but they didn't.
I've always wanted to see the dandamic like I don't
want to get to the point where Harley Quinn is
(19:48):
a I'm a hero anti hero, I've broken my own No,
I want the story. I want the meeting Joker, her
being a therapist, a psychiatrist, going through the motions, him
gas her, twisting her like just using her, and then boom,
then the turn happens. Right now, DCU could do that right,
But it's kind of the same thing with me and
Richard Grayson were like, absolutely, I love night Wing. I
(20:11):
loved That's one of my favorite caution designs. I want
him to get there same time. I would want the
journey there, and I don't think we're getting that now. Granted,
in matt Rees's story, I don't think we'd begin the
journey either the night Wing, but I think there was
a great story of a real journey Offviously, there's many
comics Robin's Reckoning does in the animated series. I think
there is a tenant and combook story about the adoption
(20:32):
of a broken child and especially passins. Bruce Wayne did
like that Halloween night where he sees that kid murder
and he stares at him in the funeral right when
that car is going. He makes sure he saves that kid.
You can make that case that he's the most almost
like set up for a Robin thing, right, So I
definitely see the path. It's just for me gonna take
some getting used to because I didn't think we're going
that way to pass them. And then the elf in
(20:53):
the room is I thought, okay, they're definitely like those
rumors to me were kind of shut down, Like when
was so that was the timber right, No, that was
at the same time. Yeah, yeah, so that's the thing
where originally, like these rumors came out when the slate
had came out, but originally when James Gonna put the
slate out, and honestly some lost things have changed. But said, hey,
we're doing Brain the Bowl. I thought, perfect, what a
(21:14):
way you got solo young Batman by himself and got
them a bit more darker seven Matt Reies type of style. Right, great,
And then the counterpoint is, hey, we got Batman's a
bit more lighthearted and we got a Robin and that
it's his son, which you've never seen before, which is
a hook for me. I just like on a business sense,
I'm not sure if that's been part of the issues
as well too, as far as who knows we can
(21:36):
this is why I hope they happen the rob Ones.
I don't even know if I hope they haven't, because
that's dangerous. But we can live in a world where
let's say Batman comes up twenty twenty seven and then
brain Bowl comes up to twenty nine, and they're both hits,
even twenty twenty eight, both hits. Right, people love Batman.
They'll just take all the Batman they want, right, or
we live in a world where people go, ah, you know,
I got my Batman. I like pass them. I don't
need to switch. I can skip this Batman. But at
(21:59):
least before it was like, okay, you could have the
style of even those people might be like, I don't
really like those pass and it's kind of slow, it's
kind of darker. I'd like some of that more, you know,
keen ish, you know, like what he was doing in
the Flash Batman hand made series type of Batman. Right,
we're gonna allow to cargoing by, so I'm gonna take
a drink right now, big old truck. But anyways, I thought,
(22:28):
I don't know if this will be successful, but at
least I can see the like I was saying, solo
Dark Batman a bit more comic Bookie Batman with Robin
perfect so throw all the story stuff. I don't know
what you do if both movies have a Robin that
that to me feels like obviously the Brain in the
Bowl will be more comic Bookie, It'll be more lighthearted,
(22:51):
I imagine in the vein of Superman, because Gun still says
he don't want to make a cheesy, funny Batman. But
still I think I think there'll be a bit more
of that in there right, a bit more accessible. But
the fact that it's like a rob and I just
feel like, like, I just think many general audiences will
look at a poster and then look at Bradon Bull
like a I just saw a Robin Batman movie, Like
I don't need to see that. And especially with the Batman,
(23:13):
I still think they're gonna get a star in my opinion.
I don't know, just because just a differentiate from Rob Passon.
Who knows, But yeah, I just don't know what that's
gonna mean for that. I know the the tinfoil at
theory is and maybe this is just Brave in the
Bowl and they'll just change a few things and you
never know, maybe it is they did put out today.
(23:34):
That's filming in spring of next year, so it's good
to know. So probably in the fall coming up here,
we're gonna start getting some casting, maybe even early twenty
twenty six. But that's very exciting. But yeah, I don't know.
To me, I think that makes it less likely both
Batman movies can succeed unless they are very far apart. Right,
If bradon the Bowl is three to four years later,
(23:56):
then sure, But at the same time, maybe they're not concerned.
I've said this before, where I think the Batman Part
two is for sure happening. Batman Part three that's a
bit more iffy. So that's why I hope this movie
does well and Gangbusters because like, at least that'll be like, hey,
you should make another one because it's a proven kommanity, right,
And as we've seen with Marvel and DC, you want
proven Kamani's because there's a lot of things you know,
(24:17):
d see the past couple of years, Marvel, the past
year and a half with the Marvels and Thunderbolts and
Brand New World, they're not guaranteed winners. So it's hard
to look at the Batman too. And if it does well,
be like, you know what, that's great, but what brain
the bol We're doing our Robin again, very similar, and
I guess you're pitch as well. This one's his son. Yeah,
there is a very different story with Damian Wayne versus
Richard Grayson, right, And that's where again you got to
(24:40):
get a a very different director. That's gonna and Andy
is a very different director, but I think you might
have to go a different round and get somebody with
a bit more style in my opinion, if it's gonna
be literally two Batman movies Robin, So we'll see. I'm
iffy on all this, but I'm wondering when the scene
(25:04):
was back. We'll know, right because if that is right
now they're planning feeling that was from Zazzal's in company
that they're planning filming in the spring. Will know if
this is true or not. And again, maybe it's just
Dick Race and maybe it's just the setup, and that
I think is a bit more easier for me because
then it's like, Okay, you kind of get two Batman
films by himself, and then the third one is that
but you know, we'll see if that happens. And then
(25:25):
the other room, Yeah, the Gwen Stacy thing rumors. So
Harlof put out that, like I said, ce Tier even
the Sea Tier said hey, it's nine percent, but put
out that Staycing is playing Gwen Stacy. Now, for me,
I really want this to happen because I wanted another
live action Gwen Stacy. I think that it fits with
(25:46):
the rumors we've heard so far that she's playing like
a character named Carly or something like that, or Kaylee.
But and she's a scientist. But really it's to hide
who she's actually playing, right, similar like MJ and Homecoming
where she was Michelle and then they that, right, And
I don't know if they would reveal this in the movie,
the Gwen Stacy thing and marketing, et cetera. I don't know.
And I do think if she's Gwen Stacy, I think
(26:09):
there's a good chance she could be Spider Whinning from
another dimension. Now, the tough thing is is that's kind
of just Spider verse, right, Like if it's a character, Like,
let's say something happens Doom's fucking around the multiverse, Gwen
gets thrown in our universe, doesn't know she gets there,
and she's gonna lie and she knows Peter and she's
gonna find her way back, et cetera, et cetera. Right,
(26:30):
it is just that, and sometimes that happens. That's fine.
You can have similar beats, but that just feels almost
way too similar to me. But if that's the only
way we can get it, then fine. Because I don't
think they're gonna put a Spider Gwen in the current
MC six one six timeline. And as I just talked
about on the last our newscast to go back to check,
we talked about whole bunch of more Spider myself, it's
(26:52):
been a very spider week. But as I've said on
that cast and many times before, you can't, in my opinion,
in the story andline never makes sense. And they've done
this all the time many common movies. Right, you know,
love interested, it's too dangerous with you, I can't be
with you. And then he leaves her, right, and then
(27:12):
they meets a new girl, Well let me try it
out with this girl. And it's like no, no, no, unless
that girl or guy is superpowered crime fighter, what's the difference.
Then you're putting that person in danger. You're saying, well,
I'm willing to put you in danger. But I can't
put MG in danger right, Like, that doesn't make sense.
So that's why to me, it has to be if
it is Spider Gwen, a Spider Gwen character like her
(27:34):
with those abilities, because if she's just I don't know,
right Gwen Stacy, I'll still take that. Don't get me wrong,
love Gwen Stacy, so I'll take the character. And I
think Sadie Sink is like really perfect for that type
of vibe. I think she can do both the kind
of lovable and sweet side again Gwen, but also the
(27:54):
she doesn't have the same type of attitude as MJ.
But Gwen, especially an ultimate can be a little you know,
up in Peter's face when she wants to and they
say he singund definitely do that. It would be funny
she has to dye her hair, because you know, we've
had a lot of that with Duns and Stone and
now with her. And for me though, the reason I
want the most is not just because I love that character,
want back in live action. And at the same time,
(28:15):
if you ask me if she's just regular Gwen and
they become love interests, I will still bring it up
as like an annoyance. But then I'll move on and
be happy Gwen Stacey's there. It's kind of like how
I always bring up in every mission impossible retro we
did of like oh, Ethan Hunt is excommunicated again every time,
like the he saves the world, like we should never
(28:37):
doubt you Ethan, and the next week were like Ethan's
a spy, he's a bad guy. Oh this time he's
turning against his country because we've cast him out so
many times. He's like, oh, this is can we think
of anything else? So the same thing I will bring
up as a little of annoyance and maybe they find
a way to write the way out of it right.
But for me what I want and there is my
pict Triff said before, I think it's purvocasting and she's
playing that either way Spider, Gwen or just when stacem
(28:59):
down for I think another reason why it's fun. It's
kind of like what we talked about with Mayde. But
I've said this before, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating
myself for people. But in case you haven't heard, it's
it's builds off knowing home perfectly. It's the same reason
why I want a Norman and Harry because I think
when you have Andrew Garfield, you know, Bear's soul out,
(29:22):
and you know they're talking about their you know Mary
Jane's and MJ's yet Da da da, and you know
he's like, oh I lost Gwen my MJ. So I
just think there's something really cool and that's why I
think they'd be down to do it. Norman as well.
But I think there's a really fun plot point of
Peter Parker going to college at a job just somewhere
right and you're say, hey, go on Stacy or just
(29:44):
like the second he would hear that name, he would
track it and be like the same way people have said,
you know, we'd theorize this already. And knowing Home, but
especially the suit, it's like, oh, maybe he's taking the
inspiration from Toby and Andrew right because it looks like
a cammbo theirs. So honestly, and I think they portray
this very well in Known Way Home. They had great
chemistry they got to get them back together. Should have
done this way more multiple times. I think, in my opinion,
(30:06):
to make a bunch of money and make me happy.
But he bond with them and I think they mean
a lot, so I don't think it's like he's gonna
forget that and that was after his aunt, I right,
So I feel like you would remember those speeches so
to me anywhere he is, and if he hears the
name Gwen, it has a sort of like, oh my God,
like am I destined to be at this person? Like
is it? You know, it's like a time traveler thing
(30:28):
where if you hear like even back to the future,
I've compared with may Day, I would prefer this more. Like,
don't get wrong, I think there's some fun if it
was Toby Kirk, Toby and Dunt's daughter and they got
kicked in the universe and you know that's your daughter
and there's that push and pull that is fun. But
I'm a bigger Gwen Stacy fan, so I would like that.
And then the tough thing is That's why I still
think it'd had to be Spider Gwen, because I don't
(30:49):
think he would end up like Mary Jane's still round.
She's eventually gonna remember them and they're gonna they're gonna
be endgame, right, But I still think that would be
kind of fun, even if they had like a little fling,
you know, like that would be fun even it's a
flirty fling and she goes back to your universe kind
of what they did with Miles, right, But to me,
I think, especially in that mark, like you could market
the fuck out of that too. They got Haulc and Punisher,
(31:10):
but imagine the stinger of like you know, it's Halc
and Punisher and Sperm. They're about to fight and then
they do like the you know, Spiderman theme, and the
logo shoots up and then it's fade to black and
they come back up and at Stadie Sink and like, Oh,
I'm Peter Parker. What's your name? Oh I'm Gwen, Gwen
Stacy And it's like, oh, you know, like it's it's
a layup. It's sitting right there. And because like I
said that, that brings up especially with knowing that's another
(31:34):
thing too, like off, see, every universe is different, right,
but if you if I'm in another Travis and they're like,
oh yeah, like I love Dammling, Like what do you mean, like,
oh yeah, she dies off se multiverse always different. But
it's like that'd be in the back of Peter's mind too.
That's a good way if they make her just a
regular Gwen let's say they have some some connection and
she does really want to be with them, and it's
(31:56):
like he already left MJ because he doesn't want to
put he in danger, and now he's dating something that
he knows in another universe, like gets killed for being
with Spider Man. Like there's tons of good relationship drama there.
So like, when's the one I'm pulling for the most
out of here? And I like that, you know, they
said harlove see Tyr, so we'll see. But like the
fact that it's getting rumored a little bit, and like
(32:17):
I said, he's gone stuff right before he had Hulk
as well in Spider Man, that was part of his
source as well, like back in the day, So I
hope when that source also has that. And yeah, either way,
there's tons of ways even if it doesn't become romantic,
there's tons of fun ways to cover that, right, So yeah,
there you go. I've covered those two. Uh yeah, I
(32:38):
got you know, Deckster coming up weapons some fun reviews.
But if I don't see then I'll see you for
geek first day and I won't be boring. Thank you.
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