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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You would ever keep kick.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Hello ladies and gentlemen. Oh my god, screw what did
I say, Joe Man? Uh yes, welcome to Trust. Told
you another Trust, told you your monthly edition of Trust,
told you your special GV Day, Well, you know G
Day promotion GB ten year. We're coming up on that.

(01:28):
At one point, you know, lots of news to talk about.
So luckily, that's why I was doing it. But at
one point was like, I just don't know if I
really wanted to do at least one episode for you know,
an anniversary of the ten you're coming up this weekend,
but that I might not work out that. I know,
some stuff was moving around, luckily, and then even tonight,

(01:50):
you know, usually when I'm not podcasting and whatnot, I
set that aside for time for with the girls family,
but I was already podcasting and Emily was dead tired.
We went to my sisters swam full day and it
is very very hot here. So at least you think
I'm start I want to go right to bed, and
I'm not. Because I just did the gimmick with the
boys and they did a bunch of chore or something.

(02:12):
I'm all wide and whatnot. Okay, I'm gonna record that
track has told you at least it's for sure done.
But yeah, that's what we're doing right here. Impromptu is
not promote anything like that.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Killed at music.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's my If you hear that type of music, that's
where you know it's a patio pod because I just
want to see. Let me go quiet because there's tons
of crickets. Let me hear if you can hear them.
I don't think so anyone live chat let me know
if there's crickets. If there is, I guess yes, I
apologize because usually there actually hasn't been when I've been
doing the patio pods. But this is nice because it's

(02:45):
late right now, it's ten thirty pm, so what is it. It's like, uh,
where's the temperature out here? I don't know, but it's
a nice temperture where it's warm but not sweating, because
there's some nights like that and then somebody it's still
be too cold or too windy, as we've seen before.
I like going on the storm, but there's a level storm.
But yeah, no, just doing this. Let's see a spob
says my college summer finals. I meant that was due

(03:10):
tonight on extension on the due date. Second stay and
listen to this too. Well there you go, sir. Yeah no,
well good luck on that. That's you know, best of luck. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I I did not love school.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I was never a good study here, I'm I think
I'm great on the stuff that I love. You know,
we talked about restling all the time. I can recall
recall a bunch of that type of stuff. But that's
why when I did high school and film class, that
was great because it was something I actually want to do.
But there's just so much stuff. I always said this before,
like social studies and the history, like remember some beats,

(03:45):
but I don't use any of that in real life
and whatnot. But yeah, no, So this is impromptu. This
is recording for this week is packed. I know we
have so is this coming out? You can go back
and you check out, you know, speaking of just a
two gimmicks, I literally speaking of cars. You know, always
joined me on the patio pods. I was out here
for about half an hour, two notes, editing stuff. Not

(04:05):
a single car drive by now I'm live. But yeah,
it is the week of the ten year. This is
We've said it before. You can go back the entire
you know, ye or entire last two months has been
celebrating that with spinoffs and guests coming back, et cetera.
August ninth, this Saturday is the biggest extension of that.
That is the the big blow, and it's it's definitely

(04:28):
like our end game. Now. It's not like, you know,
it's not like going, I got this truck slone down
stuff there, My god, what's happening is happening out here
in Cologne at ten thirty on a Sunday. Also for
people don't it's a haul here in Canada, BC. So
that's why I don't work tomorrow as well either, so
can extra go late. But anyways, I'm rambling, but this

(04:48):
was gonna be trusted to you. We're gonna talk about
Fantasy War Box office from Top Box Office overall, we're
talking about the Spiderman suit, We're talking about the rumors.
And usually there'd be a newscast. There's no newscast this
week because it is a packed week all ready on
the schedule and whatnot. So yeah, check Out just did
the Gimmick episodes with the boys. That was very fun
with U S Pubs and David Saturday and Sunday Saturday,
really fun one Sunday, I feel like a very like

(05:10):
big not debate, but just like serious one. Right, So
it's just so funny how that went. But I think
we had some good conversations over and so it's some
fun along way, some you know, serious stuff that's going on.
And then today you got this and you'll be getting
the side question the Psychoist. But Dylan and Taylor, I
think it's just a news one. But then after that
you still got Kirklam's retrospective. So the game is coming out.

(05:31):
David Fincher's the game. You can go back and check out.
We've reviewed Shame, which was my red show, the Big Lebousi,
which was Dylan's, and then Taylor's retrospective was Wrong Turn
two and then yeah, so that's dropping the Hunk Hunker boys.
So my twin brother, Yeah, got a twin brother. You know,
I should have known I was gonna have twins at
some point because you know, I am a twin as well.

(05:51):
So it just kind of happens. But you know, not
many plays else my family, but hunka Honkah is back
with his friend. I've already seen the topics lots of
shade against the New Superman, lots of shade against New
Fantastic Four. So look out for that Star Wars Cantina
conversations that'll be on the podcast feed soon as well
as far as we me and Taylor looked at the
past ten years the animation, live action t shows and

(06:16):
movies and what are wins and losses that it is
a very fun conversation. If you like me and Taylor debating,
especially about Star Wars, you get everything you want that episode.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
We got a weapons review and a Dexter review.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
But then so, yeah, tons of content this week and
then that's why it kind of works for me to
slide this in here today and then when what is it?
And then yeah, Saturday is.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Is the tenure? That is the cap off. We have
seven events.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
There's a wrestling match, I'm in a wrestling match ship
and well in a gimmick that two times in the
gimmick I've been on a wrestling match resting podcast. Don't
promote it, God damn it. Maybe next episode, but there's that.
There's gonna be trivia with the Patreon. So I will
put off. I forgot to put because it's been busy today.
I will put out. If anyone's listening to this on
the Phase two tier up wants to join the trivia,

(07:03):
just let us know. On Wednesday, we're gonna do the
names and the drawing and whatnot and find out who's
on what team, what else is happening. We had the
trivia with just ourselves, Me, me, myself, myself, Kyle. Oh
my god, Kyle's was unversing. I'm getting confused because I
hear a loud bicycle coming.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Like I said, don't know why. It's a lively It's
not like Canaday Holiday.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I listen to this. That guy only went by once,
so he's lost. May is this this is the sign?
This right here to retire the patio pod, even though
I like it so your chill vibe. I like being outside.
But anyways, myself, Kirkland, Dylan and Taylor, we're doing a
bunch of trivia. It's just a couple of quiz It's
something me and what we're giving. We've never bust opened,
but I thought that'd be a fun way where we

(07:46):
break off into teams and see how well we know
each other. After the last ten years, we got the
nineteen ninety four Golden Geeks, Geek versus h and then yeah,
tons of other of dents and stuff that's going on
playing Canada. I don't know, I said Will. I was
out here for like half an hour before not a
single peep. And usually it's okay, you get one loud
card because it's late here, one loud cargo and by

(08:07):
this loud okay, people understand. That's like the gimmick of
the show. Right, I'm outside, But now I hear like
another bike. I swear it just the same guy just
going around in circles. But I digress. But yeah, it's
pretty crazy. On Saturday, we're gonna be doing our ten
year and the stream gonna have lots of videos. I
still got to edit a couple, but I think I'm
pretty much done, but lots of fun look backs and
tributes and montages to everything that's happened Geek for certain

(08:30):
events or streams or whatnot, just certain shows we're gonna
hopefully whether it's via video in the montage or people
appearing lots of you know, people from the guests or
people pass from the guests. And we're gonna have some
announcements as well. That's why it's like, you know, with
endgame when that happened. Other than like Loki, it's really
close book, no post credit. You know we're coming back.

(08:51):
It's happening, you know. So can you donate the day
of or is there any early links? We don't have
any early links yet because the problem is we do
it all the day of, just as like a like
a fundraiser. And yes, what we're gonna be doing is
we're going for ten hours, but we will have the
stretch goals and they're released it this week. I think
I can even I'll tease it. Ill fucking it's my show.

(09:14):
I can say what's going on here as the cars
continue to go by.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You're fucking kidding me? You fucking kidd me?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh No, So our stretch goals, I'll put them out tomorrow.
There you go. So first exclusive. So if we go
thirty more minutes, we're gonna fish off Geek Versus. That's
our event where we have a bunch of fictional characters
in rounds and fight. There's lots of names, so I
don't think we'll get through it. I think that event
is an hour and a half, so we'll finish that off.
If we go an hour, we're gonna be and I
don't care. I'll say this too. It's not a big
surprise because if it's a stretch goal, we're gonna show

(09:42):
a teaser for our second movie, on which I still
go to edit. I'm gonna add some stuff. I mean,
I say, mostly for the people that did watch Adrenochrome.
It's gonna be a similar teaser to that, but not
too much. I'll it's just because the anniversary it's not
like Adrenochrome where it has date on anything. No, this
is still probably like yeah, yeah, we're almost into like

(10:05):
this probably mid to end twenty twenty six. The drenic
Rome festivals, we've got some ones coming up soon that
will get results on that kind of threw off my
release schedule. But it's just a teaser because lots of
people still haven't seen it because you know, not everyone
purchased our movie, which is completely fine when that happened.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
And same thing with festivals.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You stilln't want to release too much footage out there,
as I've learned, because there's one like even just festivals
in general, Like we tried to go to Tiff and
we there was just one festival that we screened at.
They're like yeah, that breaks the rules of the story.
You can't so in the future not saying we have
been accepted or how we've done. But it's very cagey.
But for the anniversary, we want to do something, So
that's why the stretch goals. Yeah, those are gonna be longer.

(10:42):
So for an hour, we will throw a teaser semi
of our third movie, which we've not completed yet, but
I think there's enough that I can throw together. It's
very fun and give you kind of an idea what's
going on. But and then you got some guys car
out there just like fucking spinning out. That doesn't sound good.
That should go to the shop. So we got that.
If we make it a one point five hours, the

(11:03):
two of these these are gonna be content ones. We'll
do a movie night that the patrons are gonna choose
in the future, so there'll be polls and we'll vote
on them. And then if it go two hours, uh so,
I don't even know how much I would raise, well,
and we'll put in the increments. Where is the increments
somewhere in there, there's certain dollar amounts. If we get
to two hours, we will do a movie franchise retrospective

(11:24):
and same thing. The patrons will vote. So instead of
just doing one movie, whether it's a friend, because there's
franchise that we go, oh we might do, might not do,
wait for a movie, they'll just throw something in. We'll
maybe have like a cap of how many movies. But yeah,
so there's a lot of stretch goals there. So there
you go.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
So Charlie, no, there's not right now.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So the day of you can do that and you
can up the subscription that day I think feature and
you can choose random ounts. You can do a super
chat or I think it was just a yeah, subscribe, patron,
up your tier, send a super chat. Well, he says,
wait till the moose. I sent a arrived with my
god to deal with no moose right now, dealing with
the most traffic. Ever, how's it going there, Anthony? But yeah,

(12:04):
it's it's crazy, and I'm not gonna talk about too
much because there is some stuff on GVD where we
talk about, uh, you know, the ten year and whatnot, right,
so I don't I don't want to throw that out
there yet. But yeah, it's it's kind of crazy. I
had it. So you can go back and listen. Last
week we did the jew the GUA crossover. That was
actually the first time it kind of clicked in for me,

(12:26):
like not that it's coming ten years, but I had
like the cast ended, and it's usually the cast end's
gotta go out with the babes doing stuff and cast
and I just sat there for them and I was like, wow,
like we just did that. It was nothing big, It's
just hanging out with the GUA people. But I think
it was a moment where when GUA started, that was
like I'm not gonna say, consume my life, but that
was a lot of like getting the host together and

(12:47):
there's a lot of switching around of hosts and figure
out days and everything.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Even with myself.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I remember I was doing some editing and there's like
a I was the coast of Marvel Alliance with Chris
and there was like a four week stretch where I
didn't host because my job schedule just didn't allow out right,
And thank goodness for Brent that did take over, because
you can see in that second year, I'm really like
missing a lot of stuff, right, But I just said,
because that's why I thought. I sat down and I
was like, the podcast really we talk about the eras

(13:12):
of deepers, but just in general, certain things happening, the
eras of my life where it's like, man, yeah, for
two years I was getting up and going and running
and as on Marvel Alliance all this stuff. And then
I still do stuff and edit things for Marble Alliance
and we promote and you know, we still do crossovers
here and there.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
We did one for the ten year, and I want
to do more next year. But I said this in
a video that.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Comes up, like we set up and not that it
was like, all these are Compton adults. They can do
their podcast now they dune, but just all the little stuff,
whether it's uploading the stream, yard ad breaks, all that.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Stuff where the first year is like, okay, we're gonna
do it this way.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
You know, this is the method where now for many
years they've just been killing it, doing it on their
own right, And that's where it just felt like, oh yeah,
it felt like this was part of my life and
it still is, but not to like a huge amount, right,
and it's still our network. We produce it. You know,
check out all the shows they do about five shows
a week of various topics that some we cover so
we don't put very great perspectives over there. But yeah,

(14:10):
it just felt like oh yeah, and I just thought
about everything I've just talked about more, but just like
doing the podcast was Kyle Liam even though now I
know Kyle tact me, so that's that's a whole different
can of worms. But there's just tons of stuff where
I go, wow, it just it really piled up otter
that because it was like, okay, first few years of
starting the podcast, and I mean to stop talking because
there's more of this stuff coming up. But yeah, it's uh,

(14:33):
it was just crazy, like wow, yeah, this was this
was two to three years of my life. And then
someone else on the podcast, cause I think that's when
like then we started do filming stuff and then a
lot of my stuff has been on the script and writing.
And this is the most break I've had with the babies.
But I've been very excited, like August and Timbers to
get back to that cause I've missed, like even editing
these videos. It's like, man, I've missed. I haven't edited
like the second film in quite a while, like I

(14:55):
have it but not continually. So it's like, oh man,
I can't wait to get back that in full frontal
front awful frontal, I guess so, but yeah, and a
big shore.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I said, I was gonna talk about.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
This at some point when June happened, and then it
did and then July all this stuff, but no, as usual,
just obviously we're gonna talk about a lot on the
Geeker Day. But I think anyone listens. I think anyone
listens to the show very much. Appreciate you taking the
time if you like what I say and do. Obviously,
schedules always all around, it's like this where it's impromptu,

(15:25):
but I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
But yeah, June was like our biggest.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Month in the last two and a half years, and
two thousand I didn't break I can't remember. I'd have
to look what month. I think the month that doctors
strange count. Yeah, I think it's May twenty twenty two
is our biggest month ever and didn't get to those numbers.
But the reason I want to say thank you because you,
oh you didn't break record for us. It's like the
podcast goes and ebbs and flows, and I've talked about
this before where endgame comes out lots of listens and

(15:54):
then COVID happens, and just like content lack and right
when we're getting hot, goes down. Same thing around that,
like twenty twenty two our base, ye're getting hot, Doctor Strange, Batman,
and a little bit after that the strike happens, just
slow us down and for a while, it's like, you know,
luckily we're still supported where we can keep making content.
And we appreciate everyone, especially on Patreon because that's like
the biggest source because we always know what's there and

(16:15):
what we can do time wise with what you guys
are forced to to do. But with us a getting
like close, like the fact that we got back to it,
we hadn't hit twenty twenty two numbers in a while
because that was like our peak. That was like, if
you don't remember, we are like breaking records like every
it was like thirteen months a row was our biggest
month and I can't I guess it must have ended

(16:36):
with the may or something like that. So it's like
twenty twenty one to that because No Way Home was
also very big for us, So that was great, and
I've said that before. Fuck with me a little bit
because you just get used to that, and then when
you go for a stretch of like a year, two
years and you don't break that record, get close to
you you're like, oh man, and that's where we didn't
break that record. But with the month of June, it
was in that ballpark and it was like, Okay, that

(16:56):
was great to see and I really appreciate that because
you always wonder, it's like, okay, is this the new
norm now? Like are you never gonna see that again?
And you never know, And obviously it always ebbs and
flows with the content and the news and stuff we
talk about and how much content we're putting out right,
but still appreciate there could be the same aoun stuff
we put on our big movies and people aren't there
right or they've lost us or don't want to listen

(17:18):
to us anymore. So just a big thank you, because
there's times where it's like, oh, would be nice to
like get back to some of those downloads and stuff.
Where again it's so happy with the numbers. We were
still lots of times you pull charting, we're trying on
Apple podcasts.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
It's it's always just that thing that happens.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Though, when it's like you have a big run of
good note like like your best numbers ever, and then
it doesn't happen for a while you're like, oh, it's
now retroactively. I kind of wish it was like spread
out the break where at first like oh, thirteen months,
hell yeah, like what a role and that's like, well,
I hope you enjoyed that. But June and July even
then too, it was like our biggest month in the
last two years, and then June was biggest month of

(17:54):
two and a half years. So it's just like it
meant a lot because like, okay, cool, we can still
like get in that ballpark, X Y and Z and
I think a lot of the content that's been coming
out has been good and big and people are liking that.
But it was just nice to see, so a big
thank you because like it ad been a while. It's like, Okay,
maybe this is just the and that's fine because it's
a good hobby. On the side, you know, you have

(18:16):
ebbs and flows and when it's bigger, but you know,
you never know and stuff. Sometimes if it goes that route,
you go, okay, maybe we have to cut this or that,
but uh no, very much. Appreciate everyone always supporting and whatnot,
and yeah, we'll see how the fall goes. Because we're
talking about with movies. There's not too much out there,
but let's actually talk about movies and let's get into
this stuff. I'll take a break or not a break.
I'll take well, I won't take a break.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
But where is my fucking water.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's somewhere around here.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
There is.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But yeah, we'll talk about some of this actual news
stuff and get on with it.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
HM water my god.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right? So but yeah, lastly, August ninth, ten am,
be there ten hours. It's going to be a very
fun day. And yeah, if you can support, that'd be
great because this funds the content. Like we said, we're
already promising extra content if you guess a certain point
funds the other content. So we appreciate that. I'm gonna
minimize that screen because I got crazy pool here and

(19:13):
now you know I'm not to be seen.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I gotta try and get a haircut before GB Day.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I don't like the odds that I got a long
list of stuff I gotta do this week. I'm very
excited for GV Day because it's gonna be very fun.
Tao O's me a pizza, and then I'm very excited
for August tenth and.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
To like not look at the computer for while edit anything.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
You're gonna take like a nice like two to three
day break of like, I'm not gonna do anything podcast related.
I'm not on side quest, I'm not like I don't
have any immediate casts. I'm just gonna really veg you out.
I'm gonna play Donkey Kong. I'm gonna hang out with the kids,
like very excited, not doing anything, and then you know, Tuesday,
Alien Earth is out rolled around. Then I'm back to
the grind. But I'm gonna enjoy those days because it's
just been it's been fun. It's the ten years. It

(19:52):
deserves it. But it's like, man, there's a lot of
stuff in this week. I get done. But what I
gotta do now, let's try to hold you.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Let's talk about Fantastic Dolls.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Day for that fucking song, right, so had a I
will confirm this, but I'm pretty sure it had a
sixty six percent drop. Obviously, the hope was to have
something a bit better because we just saw that happen
with Superman, right, and you can go back and check
out all our reviews, and that was.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Fun to watch for us.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I haven't looked at them lately, but because the whole
year I've said Superman's gonna be our biggest for you,
it is that broke in like five or six days
very quickly. But then the first two days F four
came out. It was outpacing Superman, and I was very surprised.
But much like the MCU, I guess the listeners are
just fun loaded and not that a drop to like.
It did not drop like sixty six percent, thank goodness,

(20:38):
but uh, Superman.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Was firmly beating it. And I don't know where it
is now.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'll check. That's a more curiosity thing for me, But
it was just it. It's funny that we used to
got this. But let's see here to face one of
the biggest drops in the MCU history.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yes, sixty six percent drop so to beat.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
So obviously there's been thirty seven movies, let's say, thirty seven,
thirty six, they're five, they're four, three, thirty two, thirty one,
thirty Okay, so it's the thirtieth biggest drop in the
the MCU's history. So yeah, not great sixty six percent,
and even some of those is tougher, right, because like
below it multiverse of madness, no way home. Those are

(21:18):
ones where it's like they made so much my opening weekend.
Sure they had that big drop, but it's like they
were gonna drop that regardless, because you can't just repeat
that type of business, right, And Yeah, it's been interesting
because like even the weekday stuff's not been that bad.
It's been outpaced by Superman, even though it's funny where
again international struggling in some markets for F four, that's
where it's kind of making a bit more money than Superman.

(21:40):
So I think the I think right now the projection
lock and we're gonna talk about Suerman, but like the
projection lock is, oh my god, what was it? Five
fifty five, seventy five. Obviously, you never know. Maybe August
is a little nicer to it than the first weekend
is you never know what the office right saying the

(22:01):
Supman it.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Had some great holds. Some days it beat the Batman,
some day didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You don't know what's happening in August and right now,
and there's a lot of movies out in August, nothing
like massive, but there's still some competition. Honestly, not great.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was really hoping because obviously, like I I in
the f For's my favorite combent with of the year.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I love it. It's almost or is a top ten
MC movie for me, So I am in that camp.
Of course, I think we're going to get a sequel,
because the funny thing is, if you look at this,
this is the thing I keep bringing up all the time, right,
we need to see what else is gonna come out,
so it would get bumped up. But right now, if
the year were to end and this were to get
that projection, it would be in the top ten, and

(22:41):
even like last year, I want to see what was
twenty twenty four box office top ten.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Let's say it ended all high. I'll put it high,
and let's.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Say it ended at five seventy five, right, I just
want to see even last year.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's like, and I've done this before, right, but if
you got.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Five seventy five, because it's inside out one point six billion,
Deadpool Areen one point three, Muana one billion, and then
Despicable Me nine hundred and seventy two, Wicked seven hundred
and fifty six. H Foss's seven hundred and twenty two.
That's a movie, right that look like it bombed when
it opened, and then it had Great Legs, Dune Part two,
seven fourteen, and then Godzilla Calling the New Empire at

(23:22):
five seventy two. So if it were to hit five
to seventy five, it would have been the number eighth
biggest movie of the year. And that's the thing where
I've talked about this before, So if you haven't missed
an episode, I apologize I'm retreading, but you look at
the top ten for this year again, Niza two. You know,
one point eight billion, good for them, Leland and Stitch
one billion, Minecraft, nine to fifty five, Jurassic World seven,

(23:44):
one hundred and sixty six, How to Train Your Drink
in six eighteen, Mission Apostle five ninety four, and then
after that, all of them from like five Mission Impossible
to Thunderbolts are below the five. Yeah, both they're five
to fifteen below. Superman's at five fifty one right now,
and it's looking like it's again a hit was for
Sugar hit six hundred, which is great. Seven hundred might

(24:07):
be a climb for it, but still that's where I
think I was like six hundred twenty five, six hundred
something like that or six fifty the most. So fourard
to finish at five seventy five, beats f one, beats
Captain America four, Thunderbolts, et cetera. Right, because even right now,
thunder Fantasy four with only in July, with only two weeks,

(24:29):
is the eleventh biggest movie year.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's just something.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Where are these numbers great?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Because obviously I want to with the movies I like,
like Thunderbolts and Fantas four, want them to do well
because I want more of them, and I want that
to be the measure of success of oh we should
do this type of movie, and like Thunderbolts Cover Mental Health,
Oh we should do more of these big themes now,
ifact they look at it and go like, well, let's
go minecraft route, right, like box office does matter in

(24:56):
that spectrum, and it is. There's pros and con for
all this. Right. Even Superman to me is like under
the hype that I thought had is still underperforming in
a sense, and did beat Man still domestically? So it
has that, So we'll see what it does the next
couple of weeks. But for me, it's it's the sixty six.
I was hoping like a high fifty percent drop. I

(25:19):
did not think like the Superman hole was gonna happen
because even myself talked about this, and again I apologize
people in the discord because then you get to hear too.
But that's why I joined the discord, because we're talking
about stuff all the time, even myself, who I think
f WUR is miles better than Supman for x y
number of reasons. You can check out their reviews. The
buzz for f WOR was not the same as Superman,

(25:40):
whether like because I know people in my personal life
that have went oither way to go see Superman. We're
Fantastic four. It's a no or. I'm waiting for streaming, right,
there's that differentiator already between the two, so I'm like,
can easily but yeah, I'm in the minority of liking
this movie more.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
But I can tell the other movie has like the
hot hand, right or the hotter hand at least say.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
So.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
The tough thing is like the the pros right is
let's start there biggest F four movie all the time,
not saying much because I think the biggest F four
movie is like three hundred and fifty million, So.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, sure, like that's that you know nothing to.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Like that's not great, even though like what it thunderbowlts
Fish at three to eight two, not far off of
fortune that set, but still, yeah, that's good. That shows
is not like a completely dead brand.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know, there are reports that Marvel's pretty happy with
it and they got all this money from marketing whatnot.
It's like, okay, sure maybe, but again it could just
be a puff piece to be like, yeah, I just
say we're say we're good with it, so then people
will be like not considered as a loss.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
The other pros what I was just pointing out is
the box office is so much lower now, the fact
that Fantastic four has been out for two weeks and
it's already you know, in number eleven. It's not like Endgame, right,
where Endgame came out to three hundred and fifty six
billion or a million opening weekend. It's not that, it's
just the numbers are so low, and there's some stuff
that Austin will still bump it out, like Wicked an

(27:07):
Avatar somebody not even finish in the top ten, but
still in that realm. I do think if it beats
the other two, that's good because at least you go, hey,
it's not lower than the other two, meaning Captain America
four and Thunderbolts. Right, you go, Okay, well this if
we're gonna go elsewhere, that's the case. So I think
that's the good thing.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I don't think because I think I said six hundred
million for Yeah, I think I said Stuermmo is gonna
be like like six fifty. It's funny because that was
my final prediction. I keep saying like, oh, I think
super Man is gonna do better. I still thought I
was like low balling it, you know, I thought I
was playing it safe for predictions. But Fantastic four being
five point fifty not too bad for characters that I

(27:49):
don't think are you know, I've you know, William was
in the chat and I was bugging him on his
show because you know, William, I remember on Augustry and
you said, hey, the eightier characters, they make seven hundred million.
You kind of changed up a little on the show,
you know, kind changed the requirements. But that's okay. I
get what you're saying, which I understand too, where hey,
they are a tier, but maybe the public doesn't view
them way that view them that way. But if you

(28:11):
get them in multiple movies, Avengers, you can make them
become that, right, And I completely agree. Right, Guardians, I
don't think are a tier but gone that eightier category
because of being in other stuff, right, So I definitely
understand that. And to me, it's also in because it
could have been a movie could have been the other
two could have bombed, like even like big Time, So
to me, it's not like completely awful. There are some

(28:32):
pros there also, the cons are that's not a good drop.
It's one of the biggest drop, like same thing for
a July comic movie as well, and it it shows
what I've talked about before, this lingering worry that I've had.
And you know, don't get me wrong, I love Batman,
love Supman, love spider Man. You know, I don't know
if I love Superman, but you know, at times I do,

(28:55):
you know, yeah, x men, excuse me. I don't want
to get to like, honestly, I want to get a
place where the films are a good quality, right, that's
number one. But then I don't want to get to
a place where it is just just the big guys
because I love comic movies, but there's been tons that
have been very forgettable. But at the same time, I

(29:15):
don't want to get to a place where they look
at a character like Black Panther go you know what,
that might be risky. Let's not do that. Let's stick
with another X Men, another spier Man, and that's where
the mc could show that. But my hope is that
if it gets to like a five fifty five, seventy
five and yeah they aren't Avengers and have a big highlight,
that that sequel can happen, and they they see the

(29:36):
road to me, they should be kind of like what
Superman was where Okay, I'd say the general audience reaction
is very good.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Simmas score was as good as F four.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
And super like Man of Steels, So that's fine, and
box office is performing well enough that I think you're
gonna make a profit, right, take that as a win.
And same thing with F four, where it's okay, look
at the pros, biggest F four movie, biggest MCU movie
of the year. You know, it's a brand that's been
very dormant for a while, and we made this much
and people really enjoyed. Even if people don't like it's varying,

(30:05):
agrees with what they love. Right between this Thunderbolts and soupman.
I'll leave Cat four out because I haven't seen Cat
fort listen as anyone's number one movie the year for comblokwise.
But my point is that stay the course and take
this when you need to win the audience back in
multiple ways. And I think there's a good chunk of
them that will never come back, right, whether it's just

(30:26):
they're burned on the franchise and over it, whether it's
after COVID they change their ways, or whether things are
too expensive.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I think there's certain times you get everybody back, but
I don't think you can.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Get the way back to where stuff like Captain Marvel
was making a billion dollars right like, just like random characters.
I don't think that's the situation we're in right now.
And I can't say we're will never be in that
situation again, but it feels like a stretch you'll be
anytime soon. So that's what I'm saying is look at
the pros that way, and there's definitely some bad there's
definitely some disappointment, I'd say, but let's see what happens

(30:57):
in the coming weeks. And then that's after the fact, right,
And that's the thing where because I have it in
the headline, and then we've talked about this too, like
is the MC in trouble, and it's like yes and no.
In their current state, they are somewhat in trouble because
if you look at this Thunderbolts and Captain America and
then the Marvels, lots of you know marks against them

(31:18):
in the loss category, I'd say, right, or the you
know underwhelming. This didn't go exactly how we want to go,
I imagine, right, especially once I through the New Thunderbolts
tag on UH or the New Avengers tag on Thunderbolts,
they probably thought, Okay, this is gonna this could work something.
It really didn't. It's tough because, like I said, in

(31:39):
its current form, yes, the MC's in trouble. If we
had a bunch more of these type of films, I
think there could be an issue. But it's gonna be
a tough thing to judge because it's the same thing
as like if I brought before, like the billion dollar
movies in MCU post COVID or what like No Way
Home which is the help of Sony and then dead
Pool willverin that. Yes, I greenlay it, but that's a

(32:00):
major help Deadpool or of the Fox X Men stuff.
So it's not fair to be like, well they even
got billions with that. It's like, well, we don't know,
right with their characters. The close they got to was
Multiverse of Madness, and I do think that's spy. I'm
not gonna say a billion, but I think Spider Man,
Doomsday and Secret Wars all gonna be hits, all gonna
make big money. I think they're all gonna be in

(32:22):
a place where Marvels pretty much happy with them. I said,
this is somebody in RJ who listens to show and
you know you can follow him. He's a good guy.
I talked to him a couple times. And I've said
this before. If Doomsday and Secret Wars, if that crashes,
then the bottom falls out. Then there is no more.
Like I said, I'm beat, like even eight, you're gonna
be like guest here for a while, right, They're not

(32:42):
gonna take a gamble. And that's where I think those
will be successful. And then the word is after those
two movies as X Men. So it's like you have
Spider Man, Tom Holme come back. We'll talk a little bit.
Lots of cool stuff. There should be guaranteed to hit.
You have Avengers, which not only does the Avengers name
and putting characters together. Got past X men, you got
character people like Robert Downey coming back all the stuff, right,

(33:05):
it's not and then X Men I could see being
very successful because it is like the start of the
msux men, right, this is this is the beginning of
a new era.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So for me, it's hard to say, really unless we
get something else because I think there's a rumored like
July twenty twenty seventh slot or twenty twenty ees or
something like that, you can't we can't really argue one
way or another. I think we can just look at
this and go, Okay, there are definitely issues. MC said
these drop offs before, but why is it to this amount?

(33:37):
You know what is issue? Why is it dropping off?
And again, some stuff they're not gonna be able to control,
so that's just out of their hands. If people are
after COVID don't want to go back to movies, then
what you're gonna do with them?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
You can't force people to go, So that's the tough thing.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
And on the side of you know, looking at the
success or, no, and MSU to me, spider Man, two
Avengers movies and X Men. There's not a real test
of how the MC is doing because to me, the
MCU like, okay, sure those could be big hits, but
like Spider Man's with Sony, those are two Avengers movies
with returning characters, and X Men's a big brand. That's

(34:14):
to me not the sign And that's where it could
be the fact of maybe they do a couple more
littler ips or something like that and they don't do well,
then the case is, yeah, you just gotta lead with
your your heavy hitters, and I want afford to be
a heavy hitter, you know, I don't want after seeing
it right, like in the cast, I don't care not.
I won't say that because I do care about those characters.

(34:35):
I don't care about those characters as far as having
my life experience with them right and being very nostalgic
to them. That's why F four was my lowest. I
didn't think I was gonna like as much because I'm
not a four A guy. But I really enjoyed it.
So I don't think it's doom and gloom yet. I
think it's a signs there's issues. It's lower, but it's

(34:58):
something you can work with, right, I think, especially now,
you gotta look at the pros. And because it's the
same thing I just talked about the top ten, it's
like nowadays with the box office the way it is,
if you can make a movie and guarantee yourself like
nothing's guaranteed. But let's say, you know, figurively, you think
there's a good Charlott's making in the top ten of
the year, you keep doing that. You don't stop, you

(35:21):
keep making that right offsely, there might be some exact
some pencil pushers that might look at like, oh, you know,
I don't know something making it once was let's go rebooted,
let's fire him, find and get someone else. Of course,
you always got those people that could make these brash movies.
That's the that's the problem War brothers, right, they could
sell it any moment, and sure, if things are going

(35:43):
good at W or like DC, maybe they say, ah, now,
just keep doing your thing, James. But you know what,
if it's I don't know what it is Amazon and
Jeff Bezosting, sure he's not doing this stuff. But let's
just say he meets with James Gunn He's like, I
don't like this guy's vibe, Like, let's get rid of
a ratio. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So that's where a lot of stuff is up in
the air for the next little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Supergirl and clay Face up in the air a little
bit as well too, because I think at least Clayface
had a smaller budget. We'll see about Supergirl. But so
I've always said to me, if the Avengers really really underperforms,
that is the sign of Okay, the MCU you need
a break. It is like I'm gonna say dead like
the meme, but it is a case to be worried.

(36:26):
You might need to start anew right, Tom Holan, you
might not get that Spider ma intros. You might just
move over again, Miles their stat right. Sorry. So for me,
it just shows some pause and you know, concern. I
would have been great if it had like a similar
Superman drop, that'd be fantastic because, especially with the international stuff,
it would be really caring its load there. But I digress.

(36:48):
Let me go back to any of my stuff here
to see if there's something that's missing. Let's see there.
I don't think so. I had this from chipanneda July drops,
which again pretty good Supman fifty three percent, but get
off my camera, U Diporegan fifty four, Spending home Coming

(37:09):
sixty two, and Man two sixty two, Fantastic four sixty six,
and then four four at sixty eight, which that's a
movie that end up making like eight hundred or like
seven hundred something, so pretty impressive after that drop, to
be honest, So yeah, we will see I like I said,

(37:30):
it's it's we just have to be patient. Of course.
Like I said, I'm just completely just writing it off that. Yep,
Doomsday is a hit. That's a maybe billion dollars, I'll
say a billion. If that doesn't hit, then there's more
of a conversation. But if these movies perform how we
think they're gonna perform, there's not a conversation until later.
And I don't think it's a bad thing if Marvel
does slow down, just put out their top tier characters, right,

(37:55):
that's a good theory. Some people have like why the
Authority and Sergeant Rock aren't have any DC because they're
just like, well, maybe we should lead with Wonder Woman
and work on other ones and then you know, maybe
a Batman if Pass is not coming over, get his
movie out and find a way to get you know,
someone they like and a new.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Character, et cetera. You might have to go with just
the eightier people.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Which I don't want because then I feel like then
we go back to like just one Comico movie here,
and again, I'm not gonna be greedy. We have had
a plethora of ones. There's stuff that you know, some
seen Craven. There's TV shows and whatnot that you know
having out there. You got so much superhero content you
don't really have to worry about it the bubble bursts
because you can go back and watch it all. But yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
DC and Marvel.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
They got a couple of years here, so let's see
what is this man doing up so late? Taylor, Well,
I don't have I don't work to warn to you.
I don't work, you know, get in the computer room,
come join me, you know. But Aspob says, if Doomsday flops,
then they now the Vegers and Justingue movie by that money.
I don't think that, but I do think that is

(39:04):
the potential trajectory where you know, there is a future
that when Marvel and DC both kind of shit the
beds that they do get together, do crossover movie, and
that gives them like a little bump for a couple
of years, but then they it just kind of dies again.
The next few years are very much the sign of

(39:26):
what's to come. Warner Brothers needs to stay the course,
keep making these good movies.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Win people back.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Maybe people enjoy this brand, and if they sell, make
like hopefully that the people don't blow it up right
and figure out the Batman stuff too. I think the
Batman will be a hit, but still figure it out.
Marvel just has to deliver on those two, which is funny.
The a emospirement, it's funny the irony of them looking
at a sony movie to do well to kind of

(39:52):
booster them back up. Right, But like I've said before,
the MCU, other than Deadpool over Ring, which helped a
lot because of Fox, they don't got a billion thing
that's a Sony thing, right, So.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
DC stay the course, keep making some good movies.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Hope it works out. Marvel, stay the course, make improvements.
Make sure those big movies Avengers specifically got the Bee's knees,
because at least then if you're gonna make people really
enjoy those movies. The next Marvel thing that happens even
if it is like X Men or whatever. I think
people will be there because it is. Oh, I did
really enjoy this. I do like Marvel, maybe not too
much of it or maybe had a good break.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's back.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I've said this before, where these have a chance to
be a rise skywalkerffect. This has a chance to really
hurt the Marvel brand going forward. Of these things suck
and there's a chance there's a chance Rushi, you know,
could be messy production. Russos haven't been hidden as much
as well. The MC overall doesn't have a clear path story.

(40:48):
They I guess they do now from Thunderbolt. It's fantastic
forward to this, but not like an overall clear arc
like the Stones they were going to right, So.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, well we'll see. I hope August up and it
does well.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
On some weekends and whatnot, but yeah, we will see.
I think that's everything about that. I thought, was there
anything else in the box office to talk about?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I had too Then I thought I touched on some
of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
There's some stuff just like weird, like F one is
brad Pits, you know, biggest leading movie you know, and
I get, oh, right, I guess that's why I didn't
talk about too, but yeah, that one, that's crazy. I'm
seeing that. But with F four, Superman, Jurassic World, and
we got our answer because Jurassic World's going to digital
I think this week. But it's gonna finish it like
a high seven hundred eight hundred, where Superman's like, uh,

(41:38):
mid six hundred to maybe seven hundred. They're lucky. And
then Fantastic four is like a mid five five hundred, right,
So that's kind of where they are going. And again
that's the other thing where I can make the case
with F four why we talked about this again today where.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Oh man, I killed some bug and like it's like
some sort of stink bugs hand.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Oh not good. I'm gonna have to wash that after.
Goddamn bugs leave me alone. I said this before many
times in Marvel Alliance, at least times I was on
and I even made it a on Marvel. They you know,
we do a predictions cast every year. We had started
that just like, hey, what do you think is gonna
happen this year? And I pretty sure what my predictions was,
They're gonna move Fantastic Ford in November, and they didn't.

(42:23):
So for me, because I've seen other pupils and even
Maddie where it's like, hey, it doesn't matter. Then you
have Avatar and obviously there's Utopia. But for me, I
think it was just like getting away from Superman and
you already had thunderbolts and caps, so it's like to me,
it's like, there's no rush to get this out here.
They've only done, according to my memory, three movies in November,
with Black Panther three which was a big hit, four

(42:45):
three which was a big hit, and Eternals, which was
right after COVID, so hard to judge. That made four
hundred million, which hey, it made more than what is it?
It made more than Thunderbolts, so you should not be
the case. Oh my god, he's here, mister Field's crash.
My tress told you. I don't have headphones, so I
hope they don't hear your echo or whatnot.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
But is there an echo?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Did you hear an echo?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
The man put out the well, the man put out
the call. I thought, oh I'll pop in. I just
finished watching Sinners and thought, oh I could see what's
going on online.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh no, you're you're running down like the Irish Street
or whatever your song is.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Oh yeah, I've been Rocky Road to Dublin all freaking nights.
Oh man, Oh my goodness, you keep talking, you keep talking.
I won't crash. I just want to listen.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
But that makes no sense. You're right, you're you can't
just sit in the room and just then you as
well just had the podcast on.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
But what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
You see the topics like the topics.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Spider Man brand new day suit and big rumors, fantastic
for big second weekend drop?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
What'd you say?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
It's dropped? Not doing good?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
You where you've been? The who way? You know? I've
been the discord at all.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
It's a long weekend up in here in Canada. I've
been out of the discord.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
And yeah, I did drive by your place and saw
the jeep wasn't there, so I wasn't sure where you guys,
what you were doing and whatnot?

Speaker 4 (44:13):
So oh was that today?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
That was today?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, because we went to a pool whatnot.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
But yeah, it had a It had the thirtieth biggest
drop in the MCU's history for second week and drop.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
The thirtieth biggest drop out of how many thirty seven movies?
And this was the thirtieth biggest drop. Yeah, so it's
hardly an l What do you mean If it's the
thirtieth biggest drop, then I'd be worried about like the
twenty seventh.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Sorry, then it's the other way around. So so then
it would have been like so if it's like it'd
be the seventh biggest. There you go. I was saying
that wrong. I was saying that wrong because it was
I was looking at flipped and everything like that.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So, okay, that was pretty serious.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, so we'll see what happens with it, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's not looking good, do you because we were talking
about the discord because you haven't seen it. I was
saying because on Marble Lines, I was talking about how
they should I think they should have went to November
where Maddie brought up that, Well, you know, you got
Wicked there. You got Avatar in a month later, so
that's a big one. And Mike did bring up Utopia.
My pitch was to switch him and when you put
Zutopia in July, and he put that there because I

(45:18):
just thought F four could fare a little bit better
if you moved it away from Superman. But then I
was also gonna say that. Maybe it's just like people
just want to see a movie nowadays, They're gonna see it, right,
it doesn't matter what else is coming out and everything.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
But do you think if we would be doing better?

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Again, It's supposed to finish at like five fifty to
five seventy five, so it's gonna be Thunderbolts in cap
and it's gonna be maybe in the top ten for
the year. So it's not like a complete loss, it's
just that it's not performing. You know, Superman's gonna beat it.
So do you think November would help? Do you think
F four is doing what it would have done always if.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
They switched with Zutopia. I think that's the way to go.
I think animated films stand on that kind of different
tier than action, right, so absolutely just killing that would
have been a billion dollar movie on top of the
release of Jurassic World and Superman.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
You think it would have been a billion dollars? Oh
you mean Sotopia? Okay, yeah, it's first Utopia made a billion.
I think it's making a billion.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
So yeah, I think I think the second is making
a billion for sure.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Mm hmm. Yeah, so yeah, we'll see. I think there
was another thing to bring up there. I was talking
about box office, but I can't remember, but yeah, your
drastic your Dinalds won the uh it won it all.
They took it still and stuff. It's on digital next week?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Is it on digital next week? I gotta look and
see when it comes out on DVD. I don't I'm
gonna do. I dropped like one hundred over one hundred
dollars and got the six movie collection, the Jurassic World
collection when Dominion came out. Is now, what am I
gonna do? Drop another hundred and get the seven movie collection?
I'm fucked well.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
You could try to sell the sixth movie and then get.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
The only thing I'd sell is the horrendous statue that
they put out with that fucking box set. The Raptor
statue looks disgusting, but you're so paid for it.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
No, I don't think I've seen it. Looks like Jurassic
World's making some really bad stuff between them and the
Steel Book. You know.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yeah, I did a TikTok of me unboxing it for
our channel and it was just brutal. I'll pull up
a statue here so you can see it in.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
A second, Okay, but yeah, no, Jurassic World seems to
get the win. And that's where that's the other thing too,
where I've said this many times people and I even
just said this right where you got to stay the course,
keep making good movies. I think for Marvel and DC
it's in a different situation where you want to make
good movies so you can just keep people to come
back to the next one and retain those people. I

(47:43):
don't think it's in a way where if you make
a phenomenal movie, everyone runs out to see it. For
a combic movie, because if you look at uh, is
that the statue from your unboxing video, Yeah, there you go.
If you look at you know, for me like obviously Tyror,
like Dress a lot more. But it's like you look
at some of these the top three, to me, it's
like Lelane Stitch, I've not seen. I've just heard nothing

(48:06):
but not good things. But that's a family movie. Minecraft
is completely awful, and Drastic World to me is like
a very meh movie. So that's where it's like some
of your top movies, it doesn't matter if they're like
reviewed poorly or whatnot. Like once they get in the zeitgeist,
they do so it's like it doesn't matter if F
four would have been like, oh this is end game level.
People just didn't care about the time to see it

(48:27):
or the placing of it, or they just don't care
about F four. I really don't know. So yeah, but yeah,
we'll go from there till you got your box, you
got your statue yet.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
I got the statue, And you know what, maybe I
should just I should. I could even just play the video,
but anyways, I'll just play the shore's taking.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
There's I'm taking on my chreest told you to play
a video of himself.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
So this is the statue, this is the statue.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
What's so ugly about it?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
And this is what they actually gave you.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay, go back to the last one.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
This is what they advertised, Okay, and then go back
to what it is. That's what it is, all right,
I'm gonna play the videos. You can clearly see.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Oh, so were you really disappointed in this video?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
And so oh well, everyone's disappointed in the statue.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Everyone's disappointed in the statue. So oh there you go.
So well, wal Taylor polls that he's begetting the video
up there. Taylor, what do you think about the Spider
Man suit. I feel like I can show it because
I feel like these are everywhere. I don't think they're
gonna get stricken down. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I know, I could pull up the video, but I
feel like this is like what they call like a
controlled leak, where now.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Grant's taking photos and thumbs up with people like, yes,
it's not a spoiler.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Okay, you got your video here, let's see this. Oh,
Dary Farns, Canada, Cday Canada. I look at that dexter rism.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Miguel Prato there, I was watching some all the best
scenes of Doakes. Oh yeah, so this is the advertised
this is legit in the marketing material with the advertise.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I just think that's what you got.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
It looks good. It looks great, you know, and then
we're gonna on box and open see how crappy it looks.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
So I can see I can see a little bit there.
So did you not request a refund?

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Like, look at how shitty the snow texture is and everything.
I did not. I did try to cancel it, but
I didn't cancel it in time.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Like that's what we should look at.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
They have rocks and grass and tree roots and stuff
and did.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You did you hear before you opened it that it
was a bad uh?

Speaker 4 (50:57):
STU, Yes, I did, and so made me worried, and
ultimately I just wanted I just wanted the sixth movie
bundle because when you open up the case, it's got
artwork in there and it comes with so much stuff,
and it's just it's a beautiful case. But this is
just it's horrendous statue.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Anyways, that's you're gonna get this. So they have a
seven movie bundle right now that you're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
No, No, but they probably will eventually, but I'll just
get you're gonna get that. I just got the movie
by itself.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Okay, you need to steal book.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
No, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's just as if they're filming in the middle of
the street and tons of people are watching. That's hardly leak.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
That's all. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
So I can share some of this stuff. But what
was your initial thoughts to uh? When they did share it?
Obviously they posted which is there's a conspiracy theory going
around right now, Taylor where they posted a video the
first day of the suit right here, this close up
one suit right but this close up one. Yeah, and
people say it's a different suit because if you look

(51:57):
the do I have it up on here? Yeah? The
like third, like in between the leg there's like a
line where if you look at this suit, there's not that.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Can the man not have multiple fucking suits? Is simple?
Like how many other guys has he wore like two suits?
He's worn multiple.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Suits and every rob never he's never. No, I think
he's done that every movie.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I think. Yeah, people just see to calm the fuck.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'm going to Twitter, I'm going to X I'm going
to twitter that those were not good at photos Google
Chrome it's a Spider Man suit.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
But yeah, what were your thoughts on the reveal?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Everything? It looks like it's like similar to the No
Way Home one. The blue is like not as bright,
but honestly, in the daytime, actually it is a little
because in the No Way Home Final Swing, that's like
a super bright shirt suit. But yeah, it's the only
thing that I'm if you're on his I agree with Clay.
Sometimes the fitting of it looks a little off. I

(52:51):
think they're gonna smove it out, like right there, it
looks good. But there was like a couple of times when.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
He was like those will be tweaked, right, that's not
film quality status.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Right now, like when he's standing here like this, this
is like this is what I know. Tom Holm is
in legit, Like if you've seen him, I think recently,
he's just a photo. He's in legit, like probably the
best ship he is in his life. This this angle
does nothing for him. This is he just looks like
he's just like he's just standing there like I'm Spider Man,
but like he's in great shape. And there's other times
where I'll try and find my favorite shot because there's

(53:21):
one shot where it looks like the best Spider Man
suit possible. There's a couple like even some of this
like this one coming up here, like no, there's another shot.
I'll find it where it's like from kind of someone's
on the street point of view there, but yeah, there's
just something to it. But of course I can't find it,
fucking and oh we'll find some some fan r now

(53:43):
of MJ and a black Cat. But I'll try and
find it. Oh even right here, like it looks looks
better though, but yeah, what do you think about the suit?
You got these massive web shooters going on, you got
the the what is it the enhanced and what is
it the wedding? No, it's what is it?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Like?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Oh raised web being. You got the bigger Spider logo,
even his eyes or like bigger Spider Man eyes than
they were before. What are your thoughts on this one, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I'm excited, like seeing seeing all of these reveals has
just kind of caught me off guard, but it feels
a lot more like real real now, So I'm very
much excited for this. I really like the suit. I
think it's right here.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
This is what I was talking about. Look at this.
It's he's on the street and it's like a side
profile where he's standing because I've been taught that you
always want to stand for like a picture with like
kind of by the side. But this he looks jacked.
The suit looks perfect, Like this is something that like
I want to see him fight with the mask off
when this scene this looks fantastic.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
You know, Yeah, he looks really really good. I'm just
this weekend because of the reveal. I taught Seten Spider Man.
She doesn't didn't have any recollection of Spider Man before,
but I taught her how to do like the finger
like Spermon four. No, no, no, the like the fingers
you said, she's no recollection of Spider Man four before

(54:57):
before She's like, there's.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
No spid for you.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
This is Spider Man. I don't want me to do that.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Yeah, No, this is all all new to her. So
I taught her about the like web shooter, fingers like
shoot and so the all today we're like, do Spider Man?
Do Spider Man? And she's like going, So when we
got home today, we put on Spider Man. Far from
no Spider Man Homecoming. We're just really in the mood
and so she just she was into it the whole time,

(55:24):
and during the movie she's going just like getting so
into it. So I think she's she's on board the
Spider Man train. And I just the thing that got
me really stoked was just seeing how you know, he's
just that teenager in Homecoming, and you know, of course
Iron Man is in there too, but it's just such
an early start to his journey and everything that he
goes through and being in this situation where he's broke,

(55:48):
he's after you know, finished his high school, he's trying
to make his way through college whatnot. The rest, Yeah,
we're talking about Tom Holland not No I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
No, No, he's right that insperiment when Spierman's life is shit.
This is so we want, you know, I can have
a terrible life, so I can't wait. Yeah, No, I
love the suit. I don't know if it's gonna be
for me the best. I still for me, it's still

(56:18):
that Toby suit. There's just something that I think that
is the difference with that suit is there's a lot
more like like muscle padding in that suit where Tom
was like, I think he's doing it mostly all natural,
but though the silver webs on those that suit, and
I really like the that's one thing where at least
I enjoyed in this suit that they made. I'll try
to pull up again that the eyes are big, are bigger,

(56:39):
but I still prefer like Toby has those like big
really like plastic eyes, which again I get why they
do it here because they're gonna probably still make it
and c GI the eyes that they can emote and
move and stuff like that. But I think that I
really like the tall or the Toby eyes. I'll try

(56:59):
and somebody happen that that to me is still the
top tier suit. But this is this is like like
it's like i'd say, like one A to one B.
You know that's where I'd go.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Are these.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
There's a lot of bald shots that did you see that?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Oh you're in the calm? Did uh? On the discord,
I suppose that he had someone at his h school
talk about how they spent like, uh like two months
having just like c G I his bulge out of
like infidi W or something. Someone at his school like
they're like talking like they're in a course. I think
they're talking about this wasn't just their own time.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Just no.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I suppose you can clarify for me, But I look
at this suit though, like that that's for me.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I'm still too.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
How do you know specific experiment to this.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Is when he saves the kids in the street, right,
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm like this, the suit's the same. That's the Spider
Man that didn't change all. He really didn't Andrew change suits,
Tom did, Toby didn't.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Toby did once to Black Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Well, and I guess the rest are Spider Man. But
I mean, like I don't count that one. But this
suit is still my top tier and stuff, but so good. Yeah,
it's very good. Let's see if Marnie Martinez says this
is Sony, they nabbed Destin from the MCU, is this
lose Phase six or integral to Phase six. I think
it's integral because it's gonna before doomsday and I think
they're gonna set some doomsday up stuff. And I'm not

(58:26):
gonna say that they nabbed him from the MCU. They
they it wasn't a hang uncle there. Oh sorry, okay,
I misquoted. So just shared a tweet of someone saying
that someone came to their college while teaching a course
and was saying, hey, I had to just for two
months cgi Tom Holmes ballge out. So I suppose you

(58:47):
just took in the credit for it. But uh uh yeah,
there you go. You never know the discord. Things are
fast furious. But I don't think they nabbed Destin from
Sony because like it's a part of the MCU. So
it's like he's still working with Marvel and so I
still think he's an shuge director. But I got some
more stuff. Tip, But how long are you staying? You pop?
You leaving? You going?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
What you doing? Oh?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
I'm just chilling. I'm chilling.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Okay, so I'm going for another three hours, so buckle up. Okay,
this is this the last of here. But so let
me get this villain list here? Where is it? So
they got help fine here, But Scorpion was officially confirmed.
How you saw that?

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I saw that? Yeah, that was I was. We're watching Homecoming.
I was telling Mass like, look, this is the guy.
This is the guy. He's coming back for SPIDERM and
Brad new Day, Mass like, who is who?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
All right?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So this is something where I'm gonna share something.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
People. I'd say, now, if you don't want any rumors
or whatnot, these are.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
All rumors, speculation.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
If you don't want any of that, now is the
time to bounce out. But some of the stuff could
not be true. There's two things. The actor on social media.
He shared a post like on his Instagram where it
was Scorpion from the nineties animated series in full costume.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
So it looks like we're gonna get that. That's good.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
But then another thing he shared, so again this you're
trying about out. He shared a photo of Scorpion and Venom.
Now I don't know what that means if they would
be implying that venoms in this movie. I don't know,
because at one point Mac Gargan gets the symbiote and
Scorpion becomes like a venom type of character. Because I
don't know if you remember this that Jamie Fox when

(01:00:18):
he it came out that he was playing Spider Man.
Do you remember what he shared on social media?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I'll try and find that. Let me just do a
quick shirts here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Jamie Fox by.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
A scorpion looks like he's got a symbio kind of
vibe with his mask going.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
On a little bit. But this was I don't know
if he recalled this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
He shared this photo of all three Spider Man looking
up for this, I'm in a different one now, hang on,
I'll be up. So people are wondering if this guy's
doing the same thing where because when they announced Jamie
Fox alsoff, they never said, oh we're bringing back they
well remember they actually never announced all the Spider Men
were coming back. It just happened in the movie, right,

(01:00:58):
So do you think there's right now? We have a
bunch of stuff going on. We got Punisher, we got Hulk,
we got Scorpions back. I will get that villain list,
there's like a bunch of like I think it's like
Tom like the rumored villains. It's like a bunch of
b rate ones. It's like tombstone trancha broom uh uh
uh boomerang. And this guy named like Namrod or something

(01:01:22):
like that where he's like half human half cyborg. I
wasn't digging the vibes there, But do you think there's
any chance anything venom related as in this?

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
So I'm just gonna say, like this comment, I do
remember this, and just the comment Jimmy Fox has tell
Spider let's run it back super excited part of the
new Marvel Spider Man installment. You can't wait for all
to check the new one. And I won't be blueing
this one be one thousand percent badest. I mean everything
in there, he's telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
He was, he was so excited, Oh he was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
The photo is just spoiling everything. So I think that
there's probably some there's probably some truth to this other
photo that is appear. But the idea of all these
different characters. I know nothing about Namrod, a nothing about Transula.
The only one I'm okay, can't be looking like that
in the movie, right, comic comic accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
I don't, yeah, and I could be wrong about his name.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
It's oh ram Rod. Oh, it's even worse. It's ram Rod.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Yes, some of the Tombstone Transla, Boomerang, Scorpion, and ram Rod.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
That's a bone breaker level villain right there. I don't Yeah,
I don't know anything about Transula, and the only one
I know really is Scorpion, Boomerang, I the only Boomerang.
I Tombstone, Little Yeah, Tombstone, I know, Tombstone, Yeah, Spider
Verse and what was the other thing he was in
freshman year, I guess or favorite spider Man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So familiar with that character, though, ram Rod is he's
looking good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
You know, so he's only work in his shoulders? Is
that right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
It just says who's half cyborg.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
It's definitely not half. That's about one eight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It's such a specific just like the head, chests and shoulders.
But yeah, I agree with people that I think this
whole thing. I would love it if we get a
montage of what he's been up to and it's beating
like the people like Tombstone, Tarancha, Boomerang, Scorpion, et cetera.
The Scorpion thing, because yeah, I see it, like we
could get Venom Hulk. That's definitely something they could spam

(01:03:29):
out right, and even then we'll talk about Punisher's major upgrade.
Maybe that's the thing where maybe they like give Frank
the which I think Frank with the symbiote would be.
It would be very scary. But yeah, I I don't,
I don't know if I want. I'm not saying it's impossible.

(01:03:49):
The symbiotes here. Obviously at the end of NOA Home
they left the symbiote. I just feel like that's that's
a lot. And the other thing we didn't talk about
too on the set photos, there's like tanks and there's
like symbols for mister Negative, so that would already be
another villain. You got Hulk and Punisher. You have Zindia
still bop around. You have Sadie Sink who excuse me,

(01:04:10):
I guess apparently she's playing this character named Claire who's
like a scientist or something. But I guess the rumor
is she has she's a completely original character, but the
rumor is that's just bullshit to cover for who she's
actually playing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Oh and we all know who she's actually playing. Who's
she playing may Day Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Well, we don't know. That's the that's a theory, so
I'm not I'm not as strong as that as like
you remember in Homecoming they did that was Zindia where
she was like Michelle and then she's like, oh, well,
you know my friends they call me, they call me MJ. Yeah,
so they're doing that again. So it could be made.
But that one, we'll see. Maybe when we get closer,
it's gonna happen. So as it says, maybe with mister

(01:04:51):
Negative with that sweet personality type thing can bring out
that savage Hulk out of smart.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Oh, that's what's happening. He's for sure gonna fuck with Hulk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
We're getting that. The synopsis Taylor was that Spider Man, Punsher,
and Hulk are all going to fight each other before
they realize who the greater threat is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yeah, I can't wait for that. I was dropping those
memes in there of just Hulk kicking fucking what's his name,
Zilausk Blonsky kicking Blonsky and just killing him. That's what
Blonsky having the super serum.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
And the difference you said that I saw s Bubbs
showed a thing of Frank being scared. You know what
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Hulks kick him against the tree and Frank's can get right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
The fuck up. That's all you got, Green like, you know,
you don't mess with them, you don't. You don't mess
with the punisher there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
But he's gotten nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing that he can
devote on Hulk. But I mean, I'll stand correct and
I'm sure he'll do something. But it'll be interesting to see.
I think the idea of having the three of these
characters just facing off blows my mind. To have Frank
Castle pop in is really cool. I like that dynamic
with him a Spider Man. But Hulk, I'm always down

(01:05:58):
to see Hulk. I don't need that Hulks standalone movie
or project, but I really love Hulk just popping up
in these different things. Hulk and Thor and Thor Ragnarok. Absolutely,
It's just it's a cool combo. Right then you get
Hulk popping up in She Scar. I mean I like

(01:06:20):
Hulk over all the others. I like him more than
Red Hulk, She Hulk and Scar. I like just Mark
Ruffalo's Hulk. Respanner that's that's my that's my go to,
and it's just cool to see him tag team with
all these other heroes. So and he gets savage talk back.
That's gonna be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Yeah, I think so he's gonna destroy New York and
it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting what happens at
the end of all this. But Amari asks, as Sony,
is Toby and Andrew gonna be teased or something? I
sound I fel like this is a coppo But my
percentage is thirty three percent, like thirty three point three
point five or whatever, because I think it's either the

(01:06:59):
end credits either Hobie Andrew were downey. I feel like
the money's on one of them because this is Doomsday
and even the set photos have shown that it takes
place before Doomsday in the timeline. They're gonna tease something there,
but the other thing to tease, I'm trying to think
you went on with a suit the villains. He is
the last part here, and then you trust trust and

(01:07:20):
Taylor told you there's ending. You know, Taylor crashed my thing,
but I'll give.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Him a payday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
You know, he helped me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
What the hell is this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
That's fine. You know why too. It helped because I
was completely awake, and then after the F four topic
I was feeling I heard that. I was like, oh no,
my my, my body's turning against and you never know.
Sometimes you'll sit down, you're tired, and then you're completely fine.
In this time, it's because it's swimming the heath and
got me. But so the rumor going around right now

(01:07:53):
with pun sure we alluded to it that he's gonna
be getting a major upgrade. So also it could be
the n thing, but it could would be in The
Punisher or in the comics many times the Punisher has
rocked the war machine suit. He gets that, and you
get the whole logan everything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
How does he get it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
What did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Is? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
I never read Colonel Rhodes is if he was out
of commission as a scrawl there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Apparently because Clay had said this that apparently in the
Armour Wars like comic book run that's how he gets it.
And Clay was like, oh, well, if they did, Armour
Wars be a perfect setup. And I'm like, well, we're
not getting Armor Wars now, so we're not gonna that
set up, but I don't like I'm gonna look it
up on Google right now. I'm sure Google a will
tell me. I imagine he just like yeah, like there's

(01:08:38):
a battle and gets left behind and Frank. I don't
think Frank gets like deemed the war machine. Maybe that'd
be wild, but it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Was deeming this mass murderer exterminator as the war machine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Well there's times where were green goblins like the President
or something, right, So I can see Storm and Norman
doing that, be like, you now get that, but let's
see how does put So I'll look it up. What
do you think about this though, because I I see
there's people that are that are I think even in
the comic books mixed on Frank being in the war
machine thing right, because they want Frank as the gun

(01:09:10):
toe and the badass the street level and it's like, oh,
you throw an iron Man suit, you take that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Away street level And it doesn't make sense because how
is the continuality going to pay off here? I mean,
we know he's gonna be going off against well, I'm
assuming he's gonna pop in and go up against Kingpin
at some point, So what Kingpin's gonna be Mayor of
New York sitting in his hotel room and then the
war Machine's gonna blast into his office and just blow
his head off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
He would be pretty dangerous with that suit fund and
sure like doing the crime stuff. I do think though,
because some scoopers have confirmed it sounds like Kingpin's not
in this. I think what's gonna happen is in Daredevil's
season two. All that New York stuff's gonna be resolved
before we get to Spider Man resolved how like Kingpin's
behind bars Dad's Like, I think even there's a chance

(01:09:55):
that Punishers Special helps deal some of that stuff and
then like sets up some stuff Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I don't think it's Clay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Spider Man, Punisher and Hulk. They finally team up, and
then Hulk just smashes into Kingpin's office and like rips
him at half.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
No, I think for the Kingpin's already done, He's at it, Okay.
Do you think there's any chance because they were filming
this recently and the other filling Spider Man, do you
think there's any chance they put Spider Man and Tom
Holme in that's Disney plus Special. I don't. I don't
think so any would go for that. I think they'll
like allude to something, but I don't think he'll actually.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Be in it. I don't think you're gonna see him
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
No, okay, So and you were saying that you don't
Are you saying you don't like Punisher in the war
Machine suit?

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
I mean I like it, but for moving forward's sake,
I don't know how you You can't make him revert.
You can't go back to street level.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
He's not gonna just can't suit. He's gonna put this
suit gets destroyed in the final battle. He takes down Hulp,
but Hulk like ravages that suit, so he keeps them alive.
He gets a win, but the suit's gone.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
That would have to be the only the only logical
outcome then, because well and how so what happens, like
how does he get another suit? Is he repaired or anything? Who?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
He doesn't get it all? It's gone, And then they
just like because maybe he steals this suit and just
the one, like Frank's not a tech guy. I don't
think Ironheart's building him a suit. Tony's dead. I don't
know what Roady's a scroll, remember, So I don't I
think he's still just recovering what happened to him, So
I think that's what happened. He goes in the final battle.
I think what's gonna happen is the first bit of

(01:11:26):
the movie is street level stuff and it's him and Spiderman.
There's even a rumor today that like the stuff they're
filling on the highway is like the police are transporting
Scorpion and Frank is going to kill Scorpion. Well Peter's like, no,
don't do it. So I think it starts that way.
I think you get like a similar Blonski thing, which
I actually can't wait to see, like John Berthonal like reenact,

(01:11:47):
like seeing the Hulk, like oh my god. But like
I think midway he's gonna see that and realize he
needs a bit more firepower. Third act, he lands with
the suit and it gets destroyed, even though he survives.
That's what I think happens, And then they can't get
in the suit.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
The idea of him thinking he can just go up
against the Hulk or it was just like what like
what his plans? What is the scenario?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Like what does he deem is Frank could Frank could
just fist fight him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Like the Hulk must be already in savage form, right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yes, I don't think he's looking at somemart banner.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I gotta get my war machine. Pruce is just teaching
a seven hour with the Sun's scarm. He just flies
with the war machine with the ex wife and just
kills Scar in front of him. Oh man, uh so
here you go, here's your answer. And Marvel Comics The
Puns requires the war Machine suit after a mission involving
Hydro and Nick Fury. Specifically, Fury tasks Frank Castle with

(01:12:43):
infiltrating the facility housing the powerful war machine armor. After
securing the suit, Castle retains it and essentially becomes the
Punisher war Machine.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
So it almost sounds like he just kind of like
fuck you, Nick and just keeps it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Yeah and yeah, it does say.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Instead of returning the armor as instructed, Castle keeps it
a dog up in the persona of the Punisher war
Machine story highlights a unique and powerful culmination punishers roofless
nature and advanced technology technological of the war machine armor,
leaning it to a formidable force. Yeah. I get that,
but and I don't know I some of these shots.

(01:13:17):
So he looks pretty I'll share his screen share here,
but I'm I'm all for it if especially if he's
fighting the Hulk. And here's my thing, I'm all for
it as long as we get back to treat little
Frank eventually. Look at that that logo on the armor Man.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Does look sick. My only thing is the war Machine
suit is obviously it's not as upgraded and maintained as
the Iron like Iron Man's latest mark version that he
had in Endgame.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
So you have though you don't want Frankuin Nanotech.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Well, no you don't. But the other thing too is
we saw Hulk versus Iron Man before and iron Man
had the Hulkbuster suit and that it fought, it kept up, but.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Ultimately one enough didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Didn't he even knock out the Hulk.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
He did talk about, but it was definitely like he
wasn't gonna do that in just his Iron Man suit.
He needed the Hulkbuster suit. And that was after a
lengthy battle where it was like pretty strainful and he
lost multiple parts and had to have replacement parts like
come back and assemble on him. So it was not
like a easy win. So you're telling me that Frank
feels like he's gonna be able to put up a
fight in this Iron Man or this war Machine suit.

(01:14:22):
He gets a Hawkbuster.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Suit again, Frank could beat the Hulk butt ass naked.
This is just like insult injury stuff. You know, I
trust in his anger, but what about this. It's Frank
who's high trained soldier, the warming scene shoot which we
could be a little newer. Maybe it's the one from
Endgame who knows, I don't know. And then he's got
Spider Man on his team. You know, spider Man very
strong character.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
We know Spider Man will be on his team right away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I think eventually they'll come together.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I don't think Frank's just trying to kill savag Hulk
like at well, he will be bet at the end,
he won't be. Peter will get.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Across to him. He could have like MJ and ned
and punish. Sure thinks that they're doing something illegal and
he's trying to kill them and Spider Man is trying
and to protect them, and Halt comes in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Could you imagine that they have Frank Castle kill ned
and it's just like a mix up, and John Barthnell
is not like sad about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
The collateral damage. You know, Yeah, that's what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
So Bete hed to go just like my family.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Last point and then we'll get out of here. Uh
ARMANI says a punish your war machine or punish your
agent venom hybrid? What would you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
That was quick? There went boom, that'd be done. Yeah,
rest in pieces the CEO of sex. Yeah, you'd be mean.
Frank is the CEO of death. So do you know
that that they call the actor play it's Ned the
CEO of sex.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
You know that I heard something about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, the hybrid. Hey, I'm I'm in the war machine camp.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
I want. I don't want Frank to get the suit.
I want. Uh, let's get Peter get the suit first
and go from there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Oh no, if the symbio is on Frank and then
it goes on to Peter and he's just gonna feel
Frank's rage symbia on him, like, ah, just be good
with guns and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
There, there's a point there, but I'm more in the
and it goes you know what also works story point?
Taylor his Ironman's like his idol. He loves Tony, so
he's gonna see some psychopath like Frank using his suit
for not good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
You know, yeah, that's true. That would be an interesting dynamic.
Full circle just thinks that Tony's gonna the masks and
go up and see Tony Stark space. But it's just Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Tony not to date. And that's how he kills Ned.
It's like mister Stark and then he just blows Ned
away in front of everybody, like get out of my
way or mgs next.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
You know that's the threat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
But yeah, all right, well there we go. Well, thank
you sir for joining me on this. I'll talk to
you when he still go affair, But thank you for
joining me on this. Trust told you it's fun. Little
promptu for you know, agetting ready.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
We gotta build the chemistry for the match coming up
on Star.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Are you ready and body ready? Stretch of that neck out?

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
I'm stretched And I went to the registered massage therapist,
yesdy Chip yesterday. Oh yeah I was. My feet are
not looking good, let me tell you that, but they'll
get better for the match.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Well that's not good. We stand on our feet the
whole match.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Well, I'll get some orthot X in my shoes and
I'll be good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Oh god, Well, there you go, Liz, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Not sure when because early August. Next time I told you,
I'm not sure because we're going into weird.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Me and Tay were talking about this in September Alien
Earth offstin newscast Peacemaker and then maybe gen v and
I was gonna say because it's uh, I was gonna
text us, but I forgot today because we were saying
how many like movies we have, like Running Man, Avatar
and Predator in the Fall, and that's really it. Go
World calling back to you, right, that's the other four

(01:17:52):
tron aries we'll see. I'm not sure how big that's
gonna be. Well, I'm seeing it. But my point was,
are we reviewing the obviously wouldn't be like The Night
Of because new we were reviewing The Stranger Things final season.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
So I could do at least the first, well at
least the first because there's three. Yeah, you're at your
vacation November November twenty six, I know I'm available for
that one. Yeah, and then the next one is Christmas
Christmas and then New Year's those ones I'm gonna say
I have to pass.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yeah, I hate I I get where they do the
Christmas draw, but it's not like Stranger Things is not
like family. It's not like everyone's gonna get around and
be like, let's watch it. And it's also like season
five of a show. If you've not seen it, can't
be like hey, come like if it's a movie that's different, right, like, oh,
come watch this movie. If it's Happy Gilmore too, come
watch this movie Stranger Things, be like, oh, I haven't

(01:18:44):
seen it, well here start watching season five, episode three,
like you'll really enjoy it. Like I don't know, but
all right, I'm gonna not put that on the counter.
I'm gonna leave that as this that might go on
the we'll see, we'll see what time I got there.
But lady showing, thank you very much. You got a
whole bunch of content this week Saturday TV Day, and
we'll be boring. Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
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