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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we're back, so because we went a little longer
there in the beginning, as we usually, I'm just gonna
throw a bunch of stuff at you with all those
and if you need a reminder, you can throw it
at me.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But I'm gonna start so dealing Kirkle and you listen.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm gonna start you guys first, because one, I just
want you guys' opinion on the suit, because I talked
about on trest told you. Then Taylor impromptu join me.
He was up late on a midnight so he joined
me a little bit. So we've talked about the suits.
So people go back and listen to that. So I
want you guys opinion on the suit. I guess that
current rumor is there's lots of kind of symbols and
there's lots of concept art that features Samurais and that

(00:34):
type of stuff, lots of like Asian culture stuff that
they were or sorry, Japanese culture stuff that has kind
of been a mixed report of Okay, lots of people
are like, okay, there's lots of stuff point into mister
negative and then now there's this new stuff and then
there's another kind of I'd say, like see plus your
Scooper saying that it's not mister negative after all. So
it looks like that's what's happening. It looks like the

(00:55):
main two villains right now. Suppose we are Viper in
Silver Samurai, which is odd because those were the two
main films in the Wolverine, literally both of them. So
I don't know what's happening there. More kind of on this.
I talked about Ben Trestley, but the Punisher is still
to his usual murderous psychopathic ways, but he's weaponary to
deal with the threats like Spider Man and Hulk. He

(01:16):
has some special tech and a huge tank. So we
got that Scorpion will have a prominent role, but not
the main film. And then as India's gonna we've heard
this before, important role in the film, but won't have
that much screen time. And then also Sony confirmed this
week that they are doing a Spider Punk animated film.
Danielkalua is going to be retrains of voice, but he's

(01:37):
also producing on co.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Writing the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
And then these are ones that are in development. They're
not as far as long, but Venom and Spier one,
which I felt like we had heard of Venom rumor
like last year, if I recall like a venom animated film,
I thought we talked about that, but yeah, so I
threw a lot at youdilm. What stands up there? For
what's tingled in your spider sense? If you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, geez, where do it?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wolverine, I have seen that movie before, but I don't
really recall their dynamic and their Viper and Samurai because
when I was googling Viper as a character, went on
a Wikipedia page and I do control f Silver Samurai,
there's like twelve mentions of Silver Simon or all over this,
So this seems like they're very intertwined. They've dated at
times and things like this, was that their dynamic in

(02:23):
Wolverine or what was going on there?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No Silver Samurai?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, spoil was for the fucking twenty thirteen movie.
But like Silver Samurai dies in the first act, like
his death is faked, and then he comes back as
like a third act like it's been to me all along,
very predictable, and Vipers like his like work or like
like kind of henchwoman that's doing all these things. They
both don't have much development because he's dead most of
the movie and she has nothing going on.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
And it is.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Also weird because I know they've popped in other stuff,
but in my mind they're primarily they seems Silver Samurai
is primarily an X Men villain, So like, I guess
Marvel like they have the rights to all those characters now, right,
But I just feel like very odd that would be
the route that they're that they're going with this. I
was really bummed that these mister negative things seem to
not be true after all.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So yeah, I mean, I guess with all this Hulk
stuff going on now, you know, maybe a big part
of the movie is like a I don't know, some
mind controlled type Hulk situation. So I don't know, maybe
that's where it is, where they're not necessarily like sounds
like there's a lot going on in this movie. Did
you mention the Scorpion thing too? That scorpions in there
now as well?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And there's other villains too. There's Transla, there's Boomerang, there's Ramrod.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
So but I think a lot of yeah Ramrod Nimrod
though not Nimrod, no, he's a half cyb Or character.
But I do think a lot of these might be
taken up taking out just like a montage or something.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think we might we might get.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Like a four style yeah what I've been doing for
god five years since No Way Home.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
So yeah, just him saying I took took a ramrod.
Things are good over here in Queens. I so I
would really I was thinking about this that, like man
in MCU, have we seen a villain? We haven't seen
a lot of villain like duos in this way, but
also have we seen like a villain duo that's like
a couple that could be really fun dynamic. I'd be

(04:16):
really down on these two to just chew it up,
chew up the scenery together and ram some rods and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
What did you say, Kirkland?

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Not since Pokemon like Jesse and James.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, what the fuck are you talking about? He said,
Marvel villains. I'm not a couple. I think that could
be fun.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm not counting the Disney Plus shows because I'm like
foggy on those.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I can't remember any of those. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah,
he's r I P. But like even duos are pretty
like ironmm three for a little bit. But then Rebecca
Hall does a good guy turn and you know, helps
helps the.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Crew out, but more of them stories. No, it really
hasn't been. I think I think there's a potential there
if they make them a couple, and I don't want
something where there's some romance, but like, I just want
them to be a couple together and we just start
at that point and we go down there. I think
it could be fun. I mean, all I know about
viper Is is that in Marvel Snap when you put
it down and she throws one of your cars the
other side. That's all. But I guess she's like, you know,

(05:17):
related to Hydra and stuff, which I kind of feel
like we're past the Hydra era of the MCU. But
I guess we could always circle back on that. I mean,
Silver Samurai, I guess is I assume he's a mutant though,
right that character typically, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
If I would say say that. I feel like he's
always entwined with the mutants and has some mute stuff
being going on. But I don't think he's a muni pere.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, obviously they could just have him in there
and not mention that at any point and not really
make a big hullabaloo about the whole x Men connection
of it. But I'm I'm okay with this. I mean,
I like mister Negative from what I know of that character.
I was excited to see him if that was the
thing we were getting. But I'm actually not too mad
about this. I think it. I think it makes sense,
it could be interesting. It really makes me want to
We watched that Wolverine movie, even if they weren't necessarily

(06:02):
like well done for these characters. Have we retroed that
at any point? That one?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
We did, but I'd say they're lacking.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But the movie is good. What we talked about.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
It feels like it's like the Baby Steps to Logan
because it's still James Mangold. So it feels like half
the movie it's like, oh, this is Logan, and then
the next half is like.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh, we get into like you gotta be a combook movie.
It feels like that was the setup for him to
get the full rip Chord and Logan.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
But it's still still good because like Logan loses his
powers in that movie, there's some great stuff there. He's
like homeless for the first act and it's it's a
low key favorite of mine.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I love that one.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's very depressing movie, which is good. So we got
s Pubs another person. I like the Wolverine a lot, so.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
You know where to go? I guess, yeah, Punisher. I
don't love the idea of him being like souped up
in a way, but I but it makes sense, given
like if he has to face the Hulk and Spider Man,
obviously he needs some sort of power upgrade. So I
wonder if that's what his special will be about, in
some way, some some journey that leads him to that position.
I guess that would be after this boot.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I think it's before the special presentation.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, okay, cool? So uh so that could potentially be
a set up there? What am I missing at this point?
So the animal suit?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Do you like the suit?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I haven't. I haven't seen the suit so I can
google that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh okay, bring that suit up. I was gonna says,
and we talked about you said about you probably should
at least you put Brand New Day.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
What about Scorpion? Excited to see Scorpion? Finally you're set
up in a homecoming post grat the full suit.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I do remember that. It sounds like if he has
a small role, I'm guessing he's like you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
His prominent role. Prominent role, but not the main villain.
That's what it said.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, interesting, uh number Right, that Viper has like a
kind of scorpion vibes. Right, She's green and like poisonous,
So maybe there's some dynam maybe there's like a love
triangle between those. I'd be down for. I don't know
if i'd be down for that, but okay, I'm down
for Scorpion to be in there. I read that note wrong.
I thought he had a small role, so I anticipated

(08:07):
that he'd be like, Okay, he takes him in the
first fifteen minutes. He's like that initial villain before we
get into like the the juice of the movie. But yeah,
I'm I'm okay with that. I'm open to it because
the plot's not freaking dense though it's a lot going
on here.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, because the plot synopsis was Spiderman, Punisher, and Hulk
fight each other before they realize there's a greater threat.
So like, nothing that crazy, like that civil war, that's
spider that's that's Thunderbolts, that's bvs are.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
On paper, like like there's been so many movies that
follow that, but like, yeah, just on paper, it's like,
oh God, we got another one of these.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, Like, I just I don't want it to be that.
I don't want it to be like, oh, someone Hulk.
I kind of understand, because like you gotta make them mad,
and that's one thing I now everyone's been theorized, which
I am curious about too. When it was mister Negative,
it's like, oh, well, that's the easy way he can
really mess with Bruce Banner. That's the way you get
Savage haulk out. I'm very curious how they do that

(09:04):
now with like no like no character. That's like, as
far as we know, no character that really affects the
psyche like that, Like I don't think Viper, like I
hope Bruce doesn't get like spat Vanomin in his face.
And then he's like, oh, like I don't want that,
like I want something.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
It has a weird chemical reaction with the gamma and
you know, yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And then I also don't want Scar to get killed.
So it's like I don't really.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like anything, Like you don't want Scar to get killed?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, I do, but I like that being the motivation
means nothing, especially when Kevin Fagi is in an interview like, yeah,
Thunderbolt's a lot Disney plus characters Piel didn't know. So
it's like, yeah, so you're saying that's when the reasons
it's failed, you expect the movie goers to be like, oh,
Scar's dead Man, Like I don't know. It's just I'm
not saying I'm worried about this movie. I just need
to see a bit more of the vision. I'm hyped

(09:49):
on the elements of it, but it's just there is
a lot. I do think a lot of these characters
will get killed, like being right away. I think actually
Punisher will kill a lot of them, which is good
because that's why I think you use characters like Truantela
and Boom cause it's like we're never gonna use these again,
like let Frank kill them. So I just hope the
core movie is I would like punish her versus Spider
Man in a sense that he is kind of the

(10:10):
Viilm the same way Tony Stark it was the villain
for most of Civil War, right where yeah, we love Tony,
but he was doing some bad stuff. Like I hope
it's that. But again, they had Zimo being the like
the puppet Master, right.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So yeah, I mean even if we just look at
like F four on paper, it's like, Okay, well you
got the four, you got the Baby. This time around,
you got Surfer, you got Galactus, you got Moullman. We're
gonna chuck uh Diablo in there, and Red Goose or
whatever his name is, Like you know, on paper, maybe
it's like as many characters as this, So I don't know,
it could it could work. I think it'll be a

(10:43):
messy time, but hopefully a fun time. The suit it
looks a lot like Toby's suit, right, that's kind of
the vibe of it.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I think the blue undercuts a little like Andrews, but
yet it has like the raised web, it's more black
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Like hybrid between those two do just Taylor's favorite words.
So I think I think it looks good. I like it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, And then yeah they animate stuff Spider Punk Movie, Venom,
Spider Woman is.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
What else is going on in the sony? I guess
another into the verse one.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, be on the Spider Verses twenty twenty seven and
then these three animated films and then nothing live action
because I remember they killed the uh the everything.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Got the SEU Yeah, thank god.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
After craving Yeah yeah, I mean after kind of not
really liking the second Spider Verse, I'm not too right.
I think the Spider Woman one is one that I
most anticipated for out of these, Like Venom. Okay, we've
seen enough Venom recently or is it? Sorry? Is it
Venom as a solo or Venom? And Spider Woman is.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
A collect no solo solo.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
So I'm down for Spider Woman. That's what I'm excited
for these we three for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, mister Patzer, how are you feeling over there?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
I'm feel all right. It's a little warm in this room,
but uh, I'm doing If.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You do that, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Wait one day, I mean, fuck, I was. I was
juicing with this, with this substance you were thrown at
me here with it with these notes I got. I
feel like I started off with just the suit reveal,
which I fucking love. I just I love the blue
on a Spider Man suit.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And have you seen like the practical way they're shooting
this movie? Have you been the discord much?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
If not, I'll pull it up.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
No I haven't.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
When I was out just keep talking A look at.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
The discord at all unfortunately, But yeah, I know, I
think the suit looks so great. That video it was
just it was great, you know, just Tom Holland walking out.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
They have them on a rig they're driving through glass
and laid on that bowlt right now they're no that
they haven't like through glass Glasgow that they're driving this
shot I.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Used okay, I did see this shot.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Actually that shot.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, this is the thumb. Now they need to use
that as the poster.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like I don't even think they need to like make
it look even nicer, like that is one of the
most like aura like very cool things. But look look
at this ship. They have them on a ring and
there's like explosions behind them.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
This is all practical stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
This literally looks like if Spider Man was in our
world and someone was taking photos.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm like, look what Spider Man did. Like this is
like that right there. So cool. Which is so funny because.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Everyone's been dogging on the last director, John Wats because
they asked like, oh, if you don't do speraming for
what's your advice. He's like, oh, my voice is a
never do the web swinging pat practical? It never looks good.
It just looks kind of cheap and phone and then
yeah the song. She director, I guess was like, nah,
I'm not doing that, but yeah, these photos are like.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Yeah, this is is Tom? Is Tom doing his sons?
Is he in there with the song?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't think he's. I think he's in like this
where he's standing on top.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Of a car like waiting in no way they have
him swinging around with.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Explore to Tom Cruise is swinging around.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't think that's Tom Holland where there's a huge
explosion behind him.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Travis did one of your One of your notes was
that Zenday is like there but not necessarily be in
the movie, but more to support him. So I guess
it's like, in the event that he breaks his leg
or something, she can.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Be exactly Yeah. Yeah, but he has been on top
of the car moving. I've seen those ones before, so
I bet he'd love to do this swing. He may
they let him do like one, but yeah, like look
at this. You're you're at work, everyone's photo.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
And you look outside your window next aiming for the cross.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But I hope this photo does come out because again,
this looks like stuff like Spider Man would submit to Toby,
like j Jon and James. Yeah so, but yeah, it's
some it's some good stuff going.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
No, yeah, that's I'm juicing with all those images. I
I think all of this Glasgow is that the setting
of the movie.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, okay, it's just cheaper to film. Yeah, it's just
cheaper to film there.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Okay, yeah, respect. Let me refer to my notes here.
A lot of villains were thrown out there. I'm really
down for this. I I feel like I'm always been
wanting to just get more spidy villains in content, just
because there is so many. I mean, you guys went
through the animated series, like, there's just so many freaks

(14:54):
in in the roster. And even if they do get
dismantled by like the Punisher, part of me is a
little bit sour because I'm like, oh, we're never gonna
get that crazy arc with Tarantula or or whoever might
be a Boomerang.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Those are the ones that do. He's not taking off
like Rhino.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
And like Goblin, Rhino is, like, you know, I love
Rhino is on that list. I put him in a
higher tier than he probably deserves to be, just just
for like his parallel and everything just for nostalgia's sake
and everything. I like, I probably have him e tier
just because just.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Because I have eight tiers, probably just nostalgia even months ago.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Come on, now, that's not rhino'st Rhino.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like a Paul GANI that'd be a fun gast.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
We should rank those because, like I like, I don't
agree with Rhino, he's beat tier, but I think people
have him lower. Like for me, Scorpions probably an eight tier.
He's one of my favorite gooon characters. But yeah, I
think Frank is gonna probably end the Scorpion in this movie.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Scorpion is like a tier potentially even higher honestly off
of what we just saw with what the fuck was
the show called.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Friendly Neighbor.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yea great, great character there, so yeah, no I And
then like Viper, I've seen some things with her, but
don't really know much about the character, So there's some
unknowns in here for sure. I'm just excited to see
a bunch of freaks on screen and uh, and let's go,
let's see what happens. Silver Samurai definitely not a character

(16:27):
that I thought would be like at the top of
my prediction list for like the next live action Spider
Man film. But I'm down let's do it.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I just I really want to see the story and
why other than maybe it is just like that Hulk
and Punisher are pretty much the main villains, so they're
just like, let's just use a bunch of kind of
like lamer villains that like, we're not gonna like I
wonder how like I guess I'm ann Wolverine fans gonna say,
want a Wolveringe fans say, I just feel like if
you use those characters, I guess you're not doing that

(16:56):
arc with the Wolverine go to Japan or anything like that,
which I thought they could still redo one day. But
I feel like it's kind of odd to use Samurai here.
So but maybe they're just using a bunch of characters
that don't really care about So.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
They were getting the Spider Man in Japan as the
next the next setup.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's how we down.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
That'd be cool. Yeah, any other names I missed A Scorpion.
I guess we kind of talked. I kind of mentioned him.
I hope, I hope it's it's a very enticing character
and hopefully some setup for for something in the future.
And of course I'm just pulling from your friendly neighbor
with Spider Man and just just just pulling out of

(17:35):
like what I saw there on on on what they
had with that character that was so good. I don't know,
like there's there's ties with JJ Also, is he supposed
to be in this even.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Said anything about him coming back, And I don't know.
It's kind of because they use.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
It easy get like it's like it's it's not like
he's gonna be in there like doing a lot of scenes.
You could even just have him or whatever he's doing and.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
There it is, but like I think they kind of
ruined him to be honest, like doing the whole Info
Wars guy thing. It's like you, I like the dynamic
of I want to see Tom holl and him pound
around you know where I don't think you'd get that
dynamic of Peter's taking photos for this because I know
that's always the thinking, like Jones a bad guy. But
the thing about Joan is usually he's a bad guy,
but he still has like a good guy deep down

(18:22):
there where they're making him like an Alex Jones type
who was like, no, Alex Jones is like a complete
piece of shit. So it's like I don't. I don't
whatever his thing was, like the Daily Bugle Info or whatever, like,
I don't see Peter working for that. So that's where
I was more excited when we got him far from home,
because that, oh, we're gonna get the dynamic of Peter
the photographer taking photos, that's its job.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But I don't think we're getting that.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So, like, I'm not saying I would not take JK back,
but if it's just to do more of knowing home,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I bet he's still in there, though if I had
to pizza Bed, I would not pizza Bed against that.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
So yeah, And then in terms of Punisher Hulk Spiny Trio,
I I like, I I love the idea of that.
I I'm just curious how they're gonna like spoon feed
us the Punisher stuff and have it like believable on
like Putine. Now, I have this Hulk crusher gadget, and

(19:17):
it's like, okay, Like I can foresee Frank Castle just
pulling out a fucking sawd off shotgun and and and
just shooting some rounds into Hulk. But like that doesn't
do anything right, like we've seen trying to do that
to the Hulk, but like who gives him the suit?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
He's gonna kill Roady? Yeah? Is that no breaking the
start tech? Like I don't know, He's.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Just like yeah, so like I'm gonna need I'm gonna
need a decent explanation. That's that's somewhat like meybe halfway.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
That is true?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
What if that is the special? What if the special
is I bet.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It could be their verse, or what if there's other
bad guys like in other movies and shows that have
acquired Stark tech, Frank stops that bad guy has been like.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I need this, you know, and he saves.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Looks into the camera and then it just rolls the
credit next time.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So I think they might explain it, But like I
guess I don't have that issue, like because other people
brought that up. I don't because like even in Daredevil
when he's sitting in a room, there's just like weapons
everywhere in Schematics. I'm like, like Frank's life is just
finding weapons and finding gears. It's like I can believe
that he's gonna land on a.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Just already as a basement full of stuff. Yeah, I
can always got an armory where he goes.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I can believe that, And I know people don't want
to see a lot of people don't want to see
him in the war machine suit.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't hate as much as other people because we
have him in.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Other maybe into him and he just hulks John Birth.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, and he has like the.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Skull color is yeah, he just like Venom.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
He's just black with the white.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't think they don't make him black.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
That my John Birth, Like, I don't think we should
this one, Like, no, you're gonna be black?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Alright, No, it doesn't come back for Darren because of
the script. He's like, yeah, but I'll be black?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
How much zeros?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, okay, fuck it whatever, But no, I think what
were you asked aout the suit? Originally we forget the
hold like he'll have the war machine suit with like
and the with the skull he pray he sprays it over. Yeah,
of course he does.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Oh it's like been a comic book thing. Of course.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I will show you too.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Another photo came out from because his specials like filming
right now, so he's like literally filming stuff back to back.
His look is out there. He's going full beard this time. No,
it's fine, because usually the beard means retirement. Not anymore,
the beard is fine. But yeah, this is his full
look for the special so.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Laughing.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
I just wasn't.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
He's like default NPC stance right now looking at me.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Shape of his.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Head is crazy.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
And if he turns into the Hulk, you know, white
or black, I want him to have like facial hair
and hair cut too. I don't think it's gonna happen, but.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, I was kind of hoping that he'd get Look.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Right here, what's that third of it? No, yes, he's
getting that look for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Hang on, I'll bring it up in a full screen
format here. Yeah, that's how he's gonna fight the whole
Now they did. They used to do swim suit editions
Marvel and the Women. Yeah, the Kyle sunglasses going on,
he does get the Kyle sunglasses. But American pleasure. That
just looks like guys I see every fucking day. There's

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the war machine right there.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Look worse.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
There's tons of people I've seen so much of, like
Kevin fig better not fucking put him in that suit
like people hate him in that.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Flashbacks for like AFFLEXI Batman suit that it is.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, it's like a space yo.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
He just like black Man to there. He really does
trying to find.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
I feel like Cosmic one, which you called. Oh you
like cosmics number one, it's gotta be number one.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh oh, I'll go to worse. There's a man punisher.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
There's so much like suits here, black and white number one.
I think number White punish your max. Let's see, We're okay,
we're gonna get there. Three and then the worst swims
you come on number one, the metal.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Gear metal gear Punisher.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I guess what is this?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
From what's the context of Metal Gear Punisher.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Let's see and Gregork's run in twenty eleven, Frank loses
one of his eyes and starts wearing branch over his eyes.
He also grows a beer treaming and spinning image of
salts and make.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
A big it's not actually a crossover, no.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, I think I was hoping we would get like
the big belt, like the belt and the teeth and stuff.
But no, we're getting you know, you know, like that
right there. That would be especially the expierment outfit. We're
getting some good stuff. But you know this is this
is good enough. I still prefer my Punisher clean shaven.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
But you know, Alas, can you bring up that that,
like the actual image again, sure.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
The little underwear specifically that one.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Can you zoom in? Yeah, okay, we'll speak, I'll get there.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Hang on, what was I gonna say? I think I
kind of said it all. It's like, I'm down for it,
but you just need to be okay perfect. Why the
more I look at that, the more issues I have
with it, Like just the skull looks so weird on him.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Why does it look weird? It just looks like the
Punisher skull.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I doubt it's that bright in the movie.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It's like just it's like he's wearing like a normal
outfit and then they just put like a foam like
white skull over him. Because like just the shape of it,
like it's not even a good bulletproof vest.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Like his shoulders are exposed.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
It's pretty inefficient.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
I think, Well, the vest isn't supposed to protect all
your shoulders, supposed to protect your like priority or when
he's so when he.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Reloads his rifle tailor and he empties these clips, these
clips on his belly those are those are just vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Now there's no skull there.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Like someone could literally shoot him in the heart and
he would just die right now.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, I bet he's got the war machine armor under
there already. He's getting it's a nanotecha.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Hey, don't don't nano. It could be fucking nanoteck.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Remember this.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Look at his one finger on his right hand.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm freaking remember Iron Soon and Finny war was a
fucking hoodie. He just pulled some strings and became an
Iron Man suit. All he has to do is just
like hit the the nose and looks like he's.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Waiting for his mom to pick him up for school
right now. He's like the last kid.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
You remember that John Wick on stage and there's the
mini version of him.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, this is not an official phone.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
No matter when it's nighttime and there's like some darkness around.
But yeah, he looks like he's getting.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
From this is in the stage photo.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
The front pockets on his pants, those are really strange.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
That's where the Knights come out of extra bolts and stuff.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
My John Berthall is looking great though, you know cat
his eye. Yeah, last things. I have nothing to say
about the Zendea thing. That's just good for them still
being together. Oh, the animated projects, I'm pretty hyped on
all these. Honestly, give me, give me more, give me
more animated projects. I'm excited to get a like Spider

(26:13):
Woman project, even though it's live uh not live action,
even though it's it's animated. I think we're just we're
just like just dehydrated for Spider Woman contents. And I'm
not counting Miss Marvel because that like just scrub that
from existence. That not a good Spider Woman tale at all.
Jul like Carpenter, of course, what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Why'd you say miss Marvel? Yeah, friends and podcast Madam Webb.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, I think I was trying to say miss Madam Webb.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
But her name Jennifer Cornwall or something like that.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's been a day, it's been a week, it's been yeah,
it's been ten years. But yeah, I know it's it's
kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
It's Marvel. It's still terrible. Spider Man also, yes.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
But no the venom one, like, yeah, we have a
lot of content. I'm still down. Let's see what we
get there. Spider Woman and Spider Punk. I I think
that's like the best avenue for me personally, is just
having it as an animated project.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, there any more thoughts on this stuff? Talk a
little bit about some of the new stuff.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Oh, I mean yeah, I mean I already said spoke
to the suit's fantastic or do you really like it?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
The villains in here? So a Samurai?

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean I really only know him from the
animated series. I know he's in that Wolverine, right, but
they're both very different representations. I'd say, uh, I like
the X Men version more than that, the animated version
more than the movie Wolverine versus.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
They'd better give them the armor.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
If he's in this movie, at least you better have
that huge, like huge sword, big like you better not
be looking like, you know, just like a guy with
like a silver suit or something.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
I'm down to get this variety of villains though. Think
it's pretty cool Roster just to throw a bunch of
randoms in there. I mean, I'm really not familiar with
I mean, Ram Roddy had no freaking clue who he was,
and a few of.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
The others just no idea.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
But yeah, to see Scorpion in here, and I was
a highlight watching Homecoming and just telling Mas's like, look
that guy, he's finally coming back full circle. We're going
to get him in here again. So it's nice that
we're finally touching upon loose ends. But ultimately, yeah, I'm
just I'm really excited. I'm really really excited for it,
and it having a you said kind of like that

(28:29):
that darker tone to it.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Looking I didn't throw that out right. The one of
the notes is that the people are saying it's gonna
have a dark tone, similar to Craig last month.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
They also in the report put amazing Experimen two. I
did not include that because I don't think amazing Speriamen
two is that dark, like other than Gwen dying, I
do get that that is a dark moment, but I
don't think the rest of the movie's that dark. But
and I don't know what they could do in this
movie other than like Frank killing people, because I don't
think when they're like Zendale will have a huge.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Robe but a small one.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I don't think he just frank'sy. I don't think Frank's
going that far as a code. I don't think Hulk's
killing her, but that would be man, could you imagine
the drama you know what, they would never do that,
but think about that's actually they just did that, right,
I guess with an make green Gonge kills ant Man
and he's gonna save Green Gone.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's why I know homes so good.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
But that's where I just thought, like if Hulk accidentally
killed m J, Like, how would he deal with that?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And Frank the whole time will be there's.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
No redemption for Hulk if Hulk did.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
It, Yeah, but there's no redemption for Goblain.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
They saved him, right, They didn't kill the faux last movie,
so if they don't kill so it's the same situation,
isn't it. Defu Norman and Goblam are two different people.
Hulk and Banner are two different people. I don't think
I'm not saying smart Hulk kills a Jam sayings smart.
I'm saying savage Halk does it. So what's the difference
of him saving Norman and not Sam Bruce.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
The difference is there's a Toby involved.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
But Frank will Frank, Frank, I'll help you Hulk.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. No, I mean he's gonna help spier Man.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
But no.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
The hope is now that he doesn't need a token now, right,
he's a man now, he can just make that decision
for himself.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
I just hope so, yes, dark tone, Yeah, I'm always
down for a dark tone.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Let's do it. We got Yeah. The Punisher being in
this is just so exciting. It's really exciting. And I
like the suit. I think it's it looks really really cool.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Uh, and just it's it's an upgrade from his Netflix days,
which I don't mind the Netflix version of like his
Born Again version and look and all that, but I'm
happy to see it just be more like. It gave
me like crossbones vibes, kind of remember him from Civil War,
but in a good way, a better way.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
What else you got here?

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yes, and Deya popping off, you know, emotional support, that's good.
It's just so she's not filming a lot of scenes
or any scenes in Glasgow. She's just there chilling with him, chilling, engage.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
They are engaged. They are officially engaged. Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I I think just everyone know. It's like an unkept.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Secret on the Cat's secret. It reminded me of the
that video where she was being sworn by other reporters
and Tom like dolphin dives in and just like pulls.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Almost I can't see there's cars, motherfucker, Like he's closed music.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Dude, someone's probably done that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, oh man. But uh yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Other than that, I'm I'm really stoked for it, and
I mean getting into Spider Punk.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Uh yeah, I need to rewatch.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Spider Verse sequel. I think I've only seen it the
one time in theaters. I've seen the first one many
a time, but the second one I need to rewatch
and just kind of like touch base on on all
that because that was another hype moment too, when I'm
watching Homecoming and you see Miles uncle in there and
then just having Glover pop in as.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Spins, Uncle spins, Uncle spins. Yeah, then having Spin's uncle
pop in as.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Oh gosh, let's this guy do with Spider Punk.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
Because he's when he pops up in Spider Verse the sequel.
The second was Spider Verse.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Sure, but you're talking about it was great to see
Miles uncle free pop pop and you're talking about like
the bad Miles Morales.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
What does that have to do? Yeah, what does it
have to do that's not spider Punk.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Because he could pop up in Spider Punk.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
You never know, No, spider Punk will be after.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So I think they're gonna everything will be resolved in
Beyond the Spider Verse and then they'll be done.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
So is spider Punk after this? But third Spider Verse movie?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I would think.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So they're writing this movie now where Spider Verse three
is out in twenty twenty seven, So I'm gonna think,
unless something really goes wrong with Beyond the Spider Verse,
I'm gonna say Spider Punk is gonna be after So.
I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna resolve Miles,
Peter B. Parker and Gwen's story, spin Spidery and Ghost Spider.
They don't reveal all their stories. They're gonna settle that,
and then they're gonna on go off in different directions

(32:54):
with new characters, hence Spider Woman, Ben and Spider Punk.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Different Sunset's okay, uh yeah, Venom getting an animated film,
I'll remain optimistic. I'm a little Venomed doubt to be honest,
unless the MCU does something very venomy that I'm all
for it, Like going to frank Castle. He just gets
He injects himself with hog blood, the symbiae latches onto him.
He gets the spirit of vengeance. He just turns into

(33:18):
a fucking nightmare.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
And then Spider Woman.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Uh is that Gwen or is that the Spider Queen Spider.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I don't know because in the movies, I think they
do call her a Spider woman, but I think they're
talking about like the the Jessica Drew one.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
But I I would not. I don't want that. I
would want Spider Gwen, and especially with her Silk World
silk Yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Well yeah I do that, do Gwen and get Hyley
Steinfeld back in there, and yeah, let's just have a
good time. Yeah, it's easy, billion dollar movie right there.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I won't go that. Well, yeah, no, I was before.
That's great darker tone. Sure, let's see it. You know,
let's good grain concept. But let's see if they go
and then get into the editing room and they go
it's too dark.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Scorpion, Yeah, I think he's a goner. But if he's
a prominent role, I'd be down if he was like
like villain b for.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
A bit, kind of like how Schocker wasn't Homecoming, But
let's make a better version of that because I didn't
that's I love Shocker. That's another one I hold in
higher regarden that didn't go well, I'm homecoming. Yeah, Like
I said, I don't know what they're doing with Hulk
and was Zindy. I really don't know because all I
pitched before is I would just really like him to
be in college. And one classy like bumps into her

(34:36):
and there's a really great scene there and then they
tie it off where he reminisces then walks away and
then she kind of has like in every movie where
she like thinks where she remembers them but doesn't, then
has a moment then walks away.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
I just don't know what. You know what I'm saying though, right.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Like it's remember when you know Peter Util he kisses
done to the unsparing one. They kiss and walks the
shit like touching her lip and everything like that type
of moment where it's like, Okay, I do know this guy.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I theorize to the boys, Uh, when we're seeing a
got that maybe it's just ap peers on a rooftop
watch and just then her get it on, which would
be awful, but you.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Know that would be important.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
So I don't know what else, Like, I just really
don't want the movie to end. With her knowing he's
like Spiermn like like remembering anything. I'm down for that
that's gonna happen, of course, right, it's gonna happen in
this trilogy. But like even I think I'll accept it
the next movie. I think it's a long enough break
and then hopefully number six you give them their happy
ending before you brutally murder him and spin takes over.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's how I would go. But yeah, I remember what
you did. You didn't let me kill Hulk, you kill
my daughter, my wife, he's just every everybody I didn't
mean to do with mister Castle.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
But no, I yeah, so I'll be curious. But again
we don't know. Uh I tell us what Tress told you,
but you guys, I didn't put in the notes. But
like we still know who said he sinks playing And
there's this rumor going around that she's playing this character
called Carly, but the whole thing is it's just a
cover up for the actual character. So it sounds like
what they might be doing is like they did was
Zenda and MJ where she was cast as Michelle. But

(36:11):
then at the end of the movie it was like, oh,
I'm you know, my friends call me MJ. It sounds
like they're doing that again with this, So I don't know, because,
like I've said before, unless she's a super powered character
love I've never liked that in the Spider Man movies.
But I can't be with you because you know, you
might get hurt and then like, oh, hey, Gwen, let's
start dating. Like that's never made sense to me, Like
she has to be a black cat at whatever. And
I still wouldn't mind the whole may Day thing. I

(36:32):
think there's a fun back to the future thing of
kind of they play it like Spider like Gwen in
the Spider Verse movie, where for the first half of
the movie it's like, oh, like you know, she keeps
popping around everything.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
But I would love it if there's that big.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Reveal of oh, fuck, like you are my daughter, and
I think it's a fun thing like your daughter's your
same age. I don't want they would never do like
their attracted or anything dating like you.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Know, like but.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Shot a mission fossipbel three, you know, uh, Taylor, you
had your hand out.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Was ther what was her her code name?

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Again?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
He's a carle car and she listens like a scientist
or something, so it's like, Okay, that could be, you know,
and I hope she's not if her agent let her
play viper bad agent right there, Like I'm saying, like,
that's somebody that's that's not an up and coming star
warles alc.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I won't know that far. I just feel like that's like,
could she be a black Cat?

Speaker 4 (37:24):
You know?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Car She absolutely could.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I just don't think I would love that, especially because
that'd be a perfect romantic situation for him to have,
because that's somebody that could handle himself in a fight,
right there, wouldn't be that worry even though I do, well,
actually no, we can't do that. I love the trope
where Black Cat's an older woman and it's a Peter's
a young boy.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But I don't know black can take on like a
war machine punisher though.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, I don't think she would take him on, though
I think she might have the same Mightyology had. So
you could have that situation where you have Frank who's
telling you, hey, you should take these people out, and
you have Black Cat who's like, hey, you should take
these people out.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
So that's the.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Situation where they might not even have to fight. It's
just that they say the same thoughts, you know, So.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
If you have an older Black Cat, what older women
are you casting in there to romance you?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, you can't now, Like I don't think, because before
there's your world, you get back on the road, get
back on the road.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Just play the whole clip at that point.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
You can do now because one of my favorite comics
is There's Finally Peter decides like he's going to be
a Black Cat and they kiss each other and then
they decide to reveal their identity and black Cat sees
that he's like in high school and she vomits, like
she throws up. She's like, I thought you were there.
I thought you were like a man and stuff. So no,
you'd have to go back to like Homecoming era. And

(38:58):
I don't have time to pull who in twenty team when.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I cast as an older black Cat.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
So yeah, so we'll see and yeah, the anime films great.
Spider Punk was my favorite new character out of across.
I loved the animation. I love the stut just like
made me laugh the most. So I think that'd be
a really cool kind of universe toal visit Spider Woman.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Like I said TVD, I want to see.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Who they're doing first, because just becauture, I have less,
even though I could see the fun thing of even
though like they already got made in those movies. Oh
she's pregnant, she has a baby the day, but they
already have made a Parker there, So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And Venom, I think has tons of potential. I think
that's cool. I think the animation style really works.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
They could do some great stuff with the symbiote, and
I think it's one of these situations where clearly Venom's
still a popular character. He brings the money, but like
those movies were starting to peter off, how do we
keep that character around. I think MC will get to
him eventually, because obviously the symbio was left. That could
be in Secret Wars who knows, but I don't think
it's in this movie.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Even though the.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Actor of Scorpion did post a picture of Scorpion with
Venom together on his Instagram, so there's a lot of
people buzzing right now. And at one point Scorpion does
get the symbio, but I think that and I'm still
brand so do the animated stuff, and I think there's
tons of potential there.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
So does Disney just tell their actors like they just
post random shit to fuck with the fans in the community,
just get people's saucing up, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I think sometimes yes, But.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Like the odd time, the like when Jamie Foxx posts
all the three Spider Men, I don't think that. But
m well, we'll take our second ad break and we'll
be back with some Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
And we'll back. I tried to do.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
You did good. You did good.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
The batto fots have some issues sometimes, you know, so
I don't do them all the time. But you know,
I forgot to say there were some patron questions, so
we'll actually talk about them right now. Uh so, Kirkland,
don't write that cutout for Star Wars right now. It's
coming soon.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
We had what was the other one that was not?
Oh right?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
We had them one from Tyler. You should have put
that in the beginning. But he asked if where it
was a tier that tee which I didn't know was
on Amazon. He said, what are the chances we get
War the World starring Ice cuber Viau. Personally, I'm dying
to see why. It's a new record is zeros on
ron Tomatoes? Heyton Tyler if you know, stretch goal, if
we can get to that, uh the hour and a

(41:17):
half mark on our stretch goal, and the patrons can
pick a movie. You can put that movie in there
and we'll do a movie night. We'll do a watch along.
You can join us for that. So there is a chance,
there is a chance if you guys pick up because
I think what I've heard is that'd be a fun
movie to watch. I would not be a damn like
opposed to doing a movie night because I've heard it's
just all.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Tier is a little awful.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So maybe in the future, could it could happen, but
I had not you know, is that.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Like a Tom Cruise War of the World scenario.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
No, I think the whole movie takes place. I like
it's like, you know how we're looked like right now.
The whole movie is like ice cream on screen, like
screen sharing and like doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I think he's like.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
An emergency operator or something like don't even look at
a trailer because it watching it.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But yeah, but it's zero percent.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But it is like I think all these different crisis
is going around the world happening, and he's like trying
to be like get to this room or get to
that and yeah, apparently it's.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
It's not sounds like how can we film the lowest budget?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Absolutely, people say it feels like a movie that happened,
like came on COVID but just came out now, like
one of those where it's like, oh, let's try this out.
But yeah, zero percent and raw tomatoes, So maybe it'll happen.
So and then the other question was Superman, Mike, We've
been telling a lot about this with us, spider Man
and box Off, et cetera. I said, he post a
poll about this in the discord, but would love to

(42:29):
hear the cruise thoughts with Doom, saying Dune Part three
currently sharing the same release date of December eighteenth, do
you think they'll both stay and hope for the barber
high effect or will one of the movies he said,
let's face a Dune get scared off to a new date. So, yeah,
what do you think is happening? Because that is still
happening that month? What else I will pull up for you.

(42:49):
I'm pretty sure Shrek is coming up that month as well. Oh,
actually it's a it's a loaded one, so you got
now this is big violent night too. And then December eleventh,
though you got Jumanji three. December eighteenth you have Avengers Doomsday,
Dune Part three, and Ice Age six, and then December
twenty fifth you.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Have Shrek five and were Wolf. So you go out
a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Dune's gotta go. Wait, the other dudes came out in
like November.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Right, No once November one was in March, So it's
all over the place right now.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
So ext move it up or move it back, especially like.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I don't know how like this is a first showing
dot com. I don't know if this is updated, but
it says December eighteenth says Imax doomsdays plus. I'm or
sorry Avengers Doomsday plus Imax. If Dune Part three can't
have Imax screens for even a week, there's no way
it's going on the eighteenth, they'll go early. Like to me,
you put that on December fourth of Violent Night too,

(43:43):
like sorry, violent Night, like definitely Violent Night. Not saying
that's a good time of cash in Christmas movie Dave Harbor,
people like that first one, but I'm just saying like,
and those are two different vibes too. I feel like
big action epics, sci fi or like, oh just let's
go have a fun time. Watch Santa beat some people
up where I don't think event. Don't get me wrong,
Dune and Avengers will not be comparable visuals.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Why I'm very worried for.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
The visuals of Avengers Doomsday with it being such an
even spider Man like that movie's coming on July and
it's shooting now, it's got eleven months, it's gonna look
we're looking not too good.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
By they're making him swing in real life.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Sorry, Tom, we don't got the time this time. It's
not even a director's choice, like, no, you gotta do
it practical. But yeah, I just think Dune moved a
violent night like so yeah, I think Dune moves a
week or two ahead.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Because the week befo just like painted green in this one.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Instead of using like you've seen you, you got a
buff out like that even the week before like Jamanji three,
Like Jamanji and Dune are different crowds as well, too,
like I you know.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
And I think, yeah, Dune's in its own little niche there,
but I think there's just enough swirling around that you
got a ditch.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Would you any present of you leave it to chance
of being to Barbenheimer, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Uh, if I were Denny, Yeah, okay, I fired in me,
I'd be out. I'd be Jettis seeing a Dune's Day.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Sounds nice to say. It doesn't mean people are gonna
buy two tickets.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
You know, Jamalchi Sweep, I supposed to get Dune, Dune
and even Shrek Shrek five, Like hear me out.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I think there is a reality.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Where yeah, she's in Shrek, isn't she Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
And maybe an inventors and done too. Yeah, don't get
me wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I think there's a multiverse where Shrek's the biggest movie
that month. Because I think Shrek five is gonna dousters.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I think the last ones do like four.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well not the Grazer like, but like I just feel
like that.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
No, I know you're right, because I think Shrek two
held the record for the biggest anime film and then
they did start to drop.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I just feel like with Shrek it's been a while.
Like when Shrek four, I just feel like.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah, like it'd be like twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Twenty ten, it's gonna be sixteen years.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
There's a whole My kids love Shrek, Like I feel
like that has that what.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
The Shrek memes have like just outlasted life itself too.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Well, and like look at this, for example, we talked
about this recently, like let me just pull it up,
the Leland Sitch animated film. I'll pull up, like, uh,
let me get the box off here. It's not like
a crazy Yeah. So back in the day it made
two hundred and seventy three million dollars Leland Stitch were.
Now it's a billion dollar movie. I thin like Shrek
can have that same thing where it's a new Shrek,

(46:30):
new audience, and it's that whole thing where we grow
up with it. Me and Taylor and now our kids,
like you have like three tickets sold right there of
like parents and a kid, and then I obviously myself
like ten other tickets. Right, So I just feel like
Shrek five or I do think Avengers still hitting a billion.
I just think Shrek could just even still be.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Biger than like six hundred dollars on movie tickets.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, I want I won't have yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Rind in those fucking radio shows.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
He's gonna be yeah, yeah, I gotta take the kids
all of Dune, right, It's like yeah, but uh yeah,
we'll see. But all those movies I don't know about.
I don't think ice Age. Ice Age is another one
that should move. I feel like there's a lot of
people like myself. It's like ice Age or Shrek five
next week, We're gonna.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Wait, you guys never seen an ice Age in theaters?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Yes, three of them?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. I loved the.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
At least two maybe three?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Cool ice Age is. I feel like I'm just surprised
it's still happening.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
But uh yeah, I just I feel like the last
ice Age when they bought them, they did like a
straight to Disney plus release, and I feel like you've
kind of you broke the bank on that. Like I
don't think people are gonna go pay to see that now,
but I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Especially a Shrek in the Corner. But Taylor Kirkland and
Dunsday or are they move in what's happening?

Speaker 5 (47:48):
I kind of like the name of that. I'm not
gonna lie. I think it's got to move, even though
I do like the name.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Two awful sequels like Shrek, though I don't think that matters,
you know, like it's they had some bad straight to
DVD stuff.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Two awful sequels is he talking about four three three.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
And I wouldn't say about three four. I can give
you Shrek three.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Three had some good stuff.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Is it a humpty dumpty one?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, that's not that's a whole what if. It's like
what if I didn't meet Fiona and have kids? Three
has Prince Charman taken over? And you got like like
being the bad person, Like oh yeah, yeah, I like
some stuff in there, you know, and don't don't put
some boots in donkey they like switch bodies.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I thought that was a good gimmick too.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know it. I mean, I didn't
think Barbenheimer was was a good idea at the time,
which in hindsight that was a pretty idiotic view.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
But it's just.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Two very different projects where I feel like Dune and
Doomsday is like different but like similar. Then diagram somewhere
and yeah, yeah, absolutely, I feel like both.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
I every like pitch I make in my head. It's like,
well Barbenheimer did it, and you know, it crosses all
those boxes that you're trying to like give reasoning on
why it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Work, Like you said, though, different movies though, right, like
Oscar dry drama and then like the Fun it was
a good pick me up, and even then like Dune
Part two seven fifteen really good in post COVID, but
like that's not pulling Avengers numbers.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Think maybe, yeah, maybe lightening doesn't strike twice also, you
know with the the Devil Billy on a scen But
I hope nothing but the best for both projects that month,
it's pretty I feel like a lot of projects kind
of have to do some shifting around in that month.
It's a little populated and for myself, like of course

(49:47):
for podcast movies, I'll be watching them, but like December,
I'm not itching to go out and see stuff, you know,
like I want to be a family, not be working
and just just chilling with my time off.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Well really are we like, well, I guess fucking Agers
and his Christmas releases.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
It worn't for nos Ratu, so it's fine, But just.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Like I was there for that one.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, I'm hoping this year, I'll hope be like I
guess where Wolf will be there, Dune in Doomsday, Shrek five,
someone will be there for Is that a review geek review?

Speaker 6 (50:18):
I could see that being a geekers review I'm really
stoked for that.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I'm not doing Jumanji three, Ice Age six or Final Nights.
I'm out on those.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
I'm not doing those ones either.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
No, November, we got Hunger Games. I'm not doing that.
I'm not to meet them.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
That's another prequel with young Hatch you got me, okay, guy.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You're not young and then meet the parents four, which
I'll happily catch them. You do you. The only one
I'm semi curious is Narnia November twenty six because that's
Credit Gerwig, and I'm very curious how that's gonna go.
So I think that could be a big event thing.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
So did meet the parents like tame cast?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, and this time? So have you heard the quick pitch?
It's Ariana Grande is the main character. It's called Foker Long.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
So she it's like that type of pitch.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
She's the Ben Stiller this go around. So you know
how Ben Siller meets the Narrow and it's all nervous.
It's her and fucking the guy plays Jimmy Olsen. Jimmy
Olsen's Ben Stiller's son, and she's the She's meeting them
and they all hate her, so she has to win
them over, which I I know. I think Mike was
for it. I'm very surprised what she did after Wicked.
I thought she had a lot of heat and just

(51:38):
to do Meet the Parents sequel.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I don't know. I guess she wants to do it,
but I just feel like that's some.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
People didn't like her.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Is that what was?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
They love her?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
She she got oscar No, Like I thought she could
have the pick of the litter to do a bunch
of stuff. And I just thought, like, oh, like the
fourth Meet the Parents movie, Like all right, maybe right,
it's like Marco Qualley and fucking Happy Gilmour. She just
did because she loves the first one. It's like, I
don't like that you did this, but you know fair
enough and right.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
I was just gonna say really quickly, every time somebody
talks about Happy Gilmore too, they mentioned someone that I'm like,
oh wow, I didn't know that person was in that movie.
It just sounds like a fucking pinata of actors people.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
It's like our geek versus list pretty much like those
people are in there, like Hunt all Go with his
horse rides by at one point.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Says plus they could be three on movies. That's a
long winner though. Yeah, that's we'd have.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I as a reviewer hope Barbenheimer was even issue, But
as the podcast, I hope that doesn't happen because obviously
we pick Avengers to go first, but still just like
messes with algorithms that have to those episodes back.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It's just kind of a mess, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Like even like in November we got Preda and Running Man,
which is like, Okay, that's not as bad, but like I.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Don't really want to juggle that with the podcast. So there.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Oh, I think Dune's gonna have to move. No, I
love that name. I think Dune's gotta go. Dune's gotta go.
That's just that's people are you know, Christmas time, you
got your family, you're gonna probably only be going to
see one movie, not be always going to the movies
when you got people from out of town, all that
kind of stuff, And I feel like you're gonna bring
the kids to see Doomsday, not Dune unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
So yeah, I think it's j Jamanji sweep.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
You know Jamanji Sweep.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
I think Jamanji definitely sticks in.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Shrek, remember Shrek. Shrek's Shrek.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yes, like again, even if Doomsday is like looking really
dark and down, he's fucking I don't know, killing d
haank Pin's wife and whatever Janet.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I think here's name was, I don't remember her name.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
If he's killing who else he's killing killing Roady for sure,
Like you know, Shrek's the easy going It's gonna be
a good time.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
No one cares that those people die.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
Yeah, I think I think you're You're right. Shrek definitely
has a strong foundation with its release because it's it's
got fifteen years at least since you've seen the last
one currently, and I mean it's got all these original
six voice actors coming back, well fifteen years at least
right now, at at least fifteen yeah, uh, sixteen when.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
We get there.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
But yeah, I just think that it's going to really
capture the nostalgia. And you're right, it's you got people
that grew up with it. They're gonna be like, hey,
let's bring our cakes to see this.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I say, is hooped.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
That's they should push that into twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I don't know why they're that. This is like Figgy
in Company.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Being Christmas vibe, though people like oh, I like I'm
seeing a lot of ice right now, so I'm excited
to get ice.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, Ray Rammone's not pulling that. I love Ray, but
you know it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
But