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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show. Here, Aggie Curst, I'm your host, Del
Mussin have me the best at what he does. Travis Snell,
how's it going tonight, my friend, It's going good.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We got lots of fun stuff to talk about. We
got a Callidayay tomorrow, which is kind of strange, a
Tuesday break, and yeah, I know, stuff's get popping off
getting ready. October is very busy month. You know, we
got lots of retrospectives coming up. We gotta know you
might thirder at some point, but we're getting closer and
closer to extra life. This week, I'm gonna put it
all the start putting out the details to Taylor's finalizing

(00:50):
the shirts shirts plural this time. I'll tease here. I
don't think we have said this is sid quest exclusive.
There's gonna be three shirts you can buy this year
if you want to, So, yeah, look out for that.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's like a whole wardrobe for some people on one
year's TV shirts. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about some of
that stuff later on, but yeah, in this episode should
be a fun jam pack one. Talk about all the
games been playing, mostly for me, is the hit Man
Bruce Lee deal. See, they kind of just came out
of nowhere. A new Lord of the Rings game is
kind of leaked to be coming. Yeah, is cooking, you know,

(01:23):
put that meaedback on the menu, assume Kojima news a
whole lot of it and I don't even understand half
of it. So maybe you can help me with that, Travis.
And then state of play happened last week, h that
we are going to break all that down as well.
So yeah, should be a fun episode, and how about
we get right into it. I'm gonna talk about hitm
Man first. So yeah, this, Uh, I feel like this
came out of nowhere for me a little bit, because,

(01:45):
you know, I feel like just over the summer, there
was so much stuff from I Interactive, you know, obviously
a ton of Bond stuff, but they also had their
own showcase where they short of the Shifra, you know,
Madis Michelson coming to hit Man as as an elusive target,
and I feel like it seemed like that was not
that long ago, and so I wonder if they just
didn't have the things lined up yet. But yeah, they
just kind of announced the next season We're doing a

(02:05):
Bruce Lee thing, and it's pretty much like out now.
Maybe they announced a few days before, but I feel
like it came out pretty hot and heavy, and I'm
kind of just surprised that wasn't part of like their
whole summer thing of like and in the fall stay
tuned for Bruce Lee. But like I said, maybe it
was some weird rights thing where they just couldn't talk
about it yet at the time. I'm not sure how
all that stuff works, but uh, yeah, this is this
is a weird and different one because they've done a

(02:26):
bunch of these celebrity characters in the game now, and
sometimes it is an actual person, but I think most
of the time it is them playing like a fictional character.
Obviously the shuff was one pulled from a different movie,
but other times it's like they're taking a celebrity and
giving them a new character and storyline for the game.
And that's always your target as far as the ones
I've played, but this one's a bit different because Bruce

(02:47):
Lee is not your target and instead you're in this
like fighting game tournament in oh In. Yeah, it's like
it's like, I don't know, if it's like kung Fu,
like a kung.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's said in have you played the Bangkok map? It's
like the Thaie lind one with two big hotels, fancy
hotels kind of right now to each other.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Remember we went into that. I didn't fully on the
game that I thought I owned, Remember, because I got
confused with I thought some of these, Like when you've
been talking about him Man two for years, I thought
you were talking about the original hit Man two. Okay,
I still only have the very first hit Man. I
don't over all of assassination. At some point I will.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, I think still Bangkok's from hit Man one, But
I don't know. Maybe you haven't. It's one of the
later ones. Maybe I'm not sure it's it's funny enough
because it is. It is one of the ones that
I feel like for a lot of people in the
ranking falls towards the bottom. But it is a good
map because there are a couple levels of the hotel
that are almost like a conference hall kind of thing,
and so it's they've done things like this before where
they're just like, oh, we're just gonna dress it up differently,

(03:42):
put in some new props, new characters, and so it's
a good map for that. I do always like this map,
so it's fun to have it back here. But yeah,
the setup is that Bruce Lee is here. He's competing
in this tournament, and the winner of this tournament will
get exclusive access to this you know, like kind of
criminal organization ring. So he needs to win this tournament
to like get an invite so that he can go

(04:03):
in there, and he's like an agent in this literally movie.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It sounds like pretty much, it's.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Pretty crazy, yeah, but the difference there being that, yeah,
you don't have to take Bruce Leo. You have to
take out his opponents or weaken his opponents. And then
there's like a head hauncho guy that you know runs
this whole thing, and you got to take him out
as well, and they've they've kind of done that once before.
One of the maps in Hitman three, you have to
take out a target, but there's also a secondary objective
to defend someone keep them alive. So when like certain

(04:28):
events trigger certain things, then you got to make sure
that that you know, it doesn't like sick another assassin
on the person you're trying to defend. It's also like
from all the missions I've played, like the elusive target ones.
It feels like the absolute smallest because you start in
this level. You always start in. Age forty seven is
like rented out a room of this hotel, so you

(04:49):
start there and then like right right up the steps
from there, that next floor up is where the tournament's
being held, and the tournament takes place over kind of
like two floors, and that's pretty much it. So you're
in just like this one building for pretty much all
of like the actual points that make this particular. You
could obviously run around and go grab items if you want,
but like everything is kind of sanctioned to this one
small area and then like I guess you just have
to leave there just to get to your exfiltration wherever

(05:11):
you choose to do that. So it feels like maybe
the smallest mission I've seen. Often maps like there's like
maybe two two people, so you're kind of forced to
go to the opposite ends of the map. But this
one you really can just play in this small area.
It's also one that has an escalation, so once you
beat it the first time, you go into a second
tier that's even harder. So pretty much the way it works,
you go in there, you can interact with Bruce Lee.

(05:33):
You're hanging out, you can talk to him, he'll give
you some tips or you know, he'll ask for stuff,
that kind of thing. You gotta go find this main
guy take him out at some point. But then also
you're seeing like the bracket for the tournament. It's like
up on a big poster thing on the wall. Uh
And and there's certain people that he's gonna be facing
off against, and you have to kind of either weaken
them or take them, take them out, or sometimes you
don't have to do anything. There's a lot to this

(05:53):
that I'm still I feel like there's so many trees.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well tricky and a fighting tournament that's there's some rules
are being broken right there.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh yeah, for sure. It's just like they give this
person two minutes they didn't show up for their match,
and like, okay, well you're just qualified. We're gonna move on.
It's like, yeah, I poison that lady and she is
knocked out cold in the bathroom and no one not
to look for.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So that's the kind of thing that happens. But the
first time I went through and the pre escalation part,
I was going up to the top level I'm like, okay,
that must be where the head honcho is. I'm gonna
go up here. I saw there's a door. There's a
guard in front of the door. Room Like, if I
run in this room, maybe I can get in there
quick enough that he won't see me and chase me.
But he saw me run in there, and he immediately
alerted like everyone else, and I was like, shit, I

(06:33):
don't know what I can do. I just hopped into
a closet, hung out there for like five minutes. Guards
are flying everywhere trying to find me, and then you know,
eventually cools down. They can't find me in this in
this one little closet, so they peace out and then
eventually get out of this closet. But thankfully that room
I went into, this highly secured room, is where the
target ends up later on in his cycle, at some
point he comes into his bedroom. So he just walked

(06:54):
right into my trap. Essentially domed him in the head.
He had one guard with him, took him out to
didn't alert anyone else thanks in that sequence went back downstairs.
Bruce Lee had got poisoned, so he was like paralyzed.
But I went took up this one lady. She had
the antidote in her pocket, so I gave him the
antidote and then he went on and won the tournament.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I won the mission, So then you go back in.
But this time the escalation to it is is that
you're not allowed to kill anyone, so you have to
knock people out without you know, actually killing them. Just
knocked him out in the head. But then it's like, okay,
but your objective is that you have to kill this guy,
like the main head Hauncho. So I think the way
it's trying to get you do it. To do it
is to set up the fight in a way because

(07:33):
that guy will eventually challenge Bruce Lee, And then I
think you're supposed to set it up so that Bruce
Lee will get a fatal kill on him in this tournament.
Although I have to redo it and actually successfully do that,
because I ended up failing it this time. It was
wild journy. This time, I'm okay, I know the map
a bit more now, I know where people are, I'm
going around, I know who the three opponents are that
I have to take out one of them. Thankfully, he
goes into a pretty secluded room, so easy knock that

(07:55):
guy out cold. The girl that I mentioned before, once again,
I had a poison dart hit Or with the poison diery.
She goes the bathroom, knock her out cool. She's out
of the picture. The third guy is a lot more tricky.
He goes on the cycle, he does his fights, and
then he'll go and he goes over to the uh.
There's like some chefs caterers, and he keeps complaining. He
wants the fugu fish. He wants this very specific fish,

(08:16):
and they're not serving it to him because that's like
that fish that's like I think it's like the puffer
fish where it's just like toxic if you don't prepare
it correctly. Yeah, of course they have that in all
these hit Man games because that's a that's a great
way to set up a kill. Anyway, he really wants
this FuGO fish, but the chefs don't want to serve
it to him because it's too dangerous. They don't want
to please this guy. So I go into the kitchen.
I you know, I get my my weight, my waiter outfit.

(08:36):
I go in this kitchen and I'm trying everything. I'm like,
how can I get these one or two of these
chefs are there's three of them. I can never get
them alone. But I'm like, I'm gonna just go for
something crazy. I throw like a bag of sugar on
the one side of the room and explodes. They all
get distracted, and well, just like a bag of sugar,
you know, like the just sugar pops everywhere, not like.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Something well, well, how would.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
You describe that? Then it it's flowers, it peppers, it snows. No,
you're probably right, yes, but not like a literal C
four right, Throw it in the corner, that's true. Throw
it in the corner, distracts them, and then I'm able to,
you know, grab a fry and pran knock them all out.
And no, thankfully, I don't think anyone comes into this room.

(09:18):
So then I grab one of the chef uniforms, and
now it's perfect. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna grab this
fugu fish. I'm gonna put it on the table. This
guy's gonna come around, he's gonna eat it, he's gonna
get sick, and he's gonna get knocked out of the tournament.
That's what I thought. What was gonna happen? I put
out the fish. But by the and then like five
minutes past, ten minutes past, this freaking guy hasn't come
back in his cycle, Like where is this guy? I
walk out to the main room. He is getting geared

(09:40):
up to fight Bruce Lee. So I missed the opportunity
to poison him with his food, and now he's fighting Bruce.
I'm like, shit, I might have just messed up here. Thankfully,
Bruce still wins. So even though I didn't do anything,
Bruce still won the fight. I didn't need to take
this guy out. That's where I'm a little confused about,
like how all these things work out. And then okay,
so that guy he loses this fight, that's fine. He
goes off to do his thing, and now the big

(10:01):
head honcho is here to fight Bruce, and like, okay,
here's the final moment. I don't know what's gonna happen.
I didn't. I tried to like find a way to
poison the head haunchos so that like Bruce Lee could
easily win in a fight against him. Couldn't figure out
how to do that. So I'm just sitting there. I'm waiting.
There's a lot of shit tackling back and forth. He's
telling he's gonna take Bruce out all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Ray.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
When they're about to start fighting, Travis, that fucking guy
walks over to the fish, eats the poison fish dies,
and I lose the mission because I'm not allowed to
kill anyone.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh no, why eat the fish? He just saw this good.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Later on, he finally, you know, his cycle moved past
the fight and he went to go try his fishing.
I thought the fish would just like maybe poison him,
so then he would go to the bathroom to like
puke and then I could knock him out. Did not
realize it was straight up fatal and was gonna kill him.
So the timing, though, could not have been more hilarious.
Where just the perfect time. When I'm watching the fight,
that little camera pops up in the top left to

(10:53):
show me him like passing out for meeting this fish
and dying on the spot. So I didn't get to
see what happened there, so I sudden need to go
back and do it all again and do it a
little bit better, which of course is kind of the
cream of the crop of hitman. But unfortunately, these elusive targets,
they're so stupid, like if you lose it, you have
to wait twelve hours before you can try it again,
unless I don't. I think if you maybe pay for
this pack, you can just do it over and over

(11:13):
in the arcade. I think that's maybe how it works.
But that's why I haven't tried it again yet, just
because that that twelve hour timer. So it's fun, it's cool,
it's it's weird. I like it. I'm gonna try and
get through there and get the win on it because
I just like the setup of it. And yeah, it's
fun to have a different kind of objective where you
got to protect someone and support someone instead of just
straight up killing one guy and then moving on with

(11:34):
your day. So pretty good job here. It's pretty fun
and different, and I think there's probably other events and
things that come with it. I haven't looked into everything
on the road map, but yeah, there's my latest Hitman
adventure and I haven't played in a couple months, so
it was fun to get back in there.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is this the first one of the elusive contracts? It
is like a not kill them and do this kind
of setup, like I know, I think so, but I
think it is that's fun, which is also just like
because obviously I've only played that first with the new series.
Then thinking back all the way to the original games
that I played, like lots of them were when I
was in my youth, but none of them was like
a I think maybe Hitman Apsolution might head something where

(12:09):
it's like you want to protect the target, but never
to like this amount you usually protect the target. Was
just like kill this person this amount of time, so
it's still like a killing one. So that's kind of
fun where you could do that. I still I still
think I don't know how it would sell, but I
still think they should find a way to make like
a Mario maker for this game, you know, because that
that feels like, which is great because it's like fans
stuff where they've probably done so many levels, like you.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Can make maps, but it's certainly limited, like yeah, you
can't move props around and stuff custom maps.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I play I mean like a whole
the hit Man level maker. I know, again, I don't
know how much it would even sell, probably not much,
but I would love to see it.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So yeah, that'd be a lot of work for like
who knows how much how much payoff in the end,
But yeah, the other one like in him and through
the mission where you do have to defend someone, it's
honestly pretty minimal, like very rarely is that something that
actually pops up when you're playing that mission, Like, it's
pretty easy to not have to think about that much.
You pretty much just go on your way, and so
it feels, for the most part, like a standard mission.
So this one feels pretty different because like, yeah, Bruce Lee,

(13:04):
like it seems like no matter what, he will get poisoned.
So you have to get the antidote for him, and
you have to do that in time because if I
presume if he goes into a fight with the antidote,
he's not like paralyzed, but he's becoming more and more paralyzed.
So I'm guessing he would get like killed in the fight,
is kind of the way i'd read it. So yeah,
it's fun, something different and all that kind of good stuff.
So there you go, hit Man, new update. There You

(13:27):
had nothing that you want to talk about in the
games we've been playing, right, we can.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, no, because I've literally played really nothing. Because I
said to you, usually my gaming days are Monday and today,
lots of sick calls, of works, nothing happened after and
the last week I had a crazy week. So yeah, nothing,
I'm still still plugging away on DK. I will finish
it at some point here. But yeah, and luckily I'm
not there's no new games on the horizon.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
You're officially not playing Ghosts right now.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, no, just because I'll wait until especially this week.
I found was this out next week or like in
two days? No, there's no way, so Legends, absolutely, But
if it wasn't launched with Legends, I'm I'm in no
rush because again, that's kind of like what we talked
about before, where I remember Gosushushima. You know, sorry if
I'm repeating for people that have listened for a long time,
but I remember we saw it and you and I
both thought, oh, looks incredible visually wise, but weren't like

(14:18):
a day one by and then there was just like
a state of play where it clicked. It's like, okay, definitely,
I've never had that with this game. Yet, I'm not
saying it's bad. I bet I'm still gonna really enjoy
because when I get it for Legends, I'll still play
like the whole story and everything, like, yeah, I liked
that as well, and I guess because it wasn't the greatest,
but still we got that. It's maybe because we got
that DLC and then Legends, it felt like it's not

(14:38):
been as long as Wait for myself because like I
played that DLC, and you mean when for a while
we played Legends a lot, so it's not like, oh,
I'm really ready. And again it has nothing to do
with the gender. I just am one of those people
that I really wish that Gin was still the lead
of it. You know, I don't want the Assassin's Screed
where ohever game it's the new lead. It's like I
was invested in Gin. I remember in our review like, oh,
I'd be very curious see the story would be after that,

(15:01):
And then you know, I guess there is no story.
So yeah, so by one day next year, we'll maybe
talk about it, at least for Legends for sure, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
So yeah, I mean I could see them throwing Gin
in there maybe in Legends, if they revitalize that in
some way and it's more like named characters or something,
or even just a costume or something so you can
feel like you're playing as gyms, yeah, sure, or even
if it's just.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Even if you get like the like a nightmar Stream version, right,
because you could be like the Ghost of Shashima. You
literally just call him that. That would be sick, and
then you can get like a version where it is him,
but then he's like buffed up kind of like a
like a video game boss, like a Marvel lines when
you get Thanos like kind of like that. So yeah,
obviously reviewed very well, So that's a good thing. Like
I'm excited to eventually play it. So that's I'm happy

(15:43):
that they have a big drop. I'm next thing I'm
very curious is to see how it does a sales
wise compared to that first one. To see if that's
now just like a franchise they can put out every
few years, or if there's gonna be more people like
us that are maybe waiting for this or waiting because
you know, because of Gin or just X, Y and
Z or same thing like Assassin's Creed that came out
Earli this year, right their version, Like so I could

(16:05):
see some people the same thing, being like, well, I'll
have kind of played something similar, so I know, I'm
curious that it sells.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Mm hmm, yeah, no, I similar to you or I
like all these reviews I've been hearing sound excellent, and
obviously I expected it to be that, but it seems like,
even beyond just it being oh new Gogos's stream, it
seems like there are quite a few changes in there
that are pretty monumental, and in a lot of ways,
it's a pretty big improvement. So yeah, that's good stuff,
but I still, yeah, I just wasn't really vibing with

(16:33):
it right now, and right now games are so ef
inexpensive that I have to be extremely vibing with it
if you're gonna ask me to play one hundred hundred
and ten dollars to play a video game, So uh yeah,
I'm I'm gonna wait and we'll see, hopefully. I don't know.
I don't know if the game would have gone on
sale before Legends comes out, or if they release Legends
as a separate thing, because if it's still like that
same price, and even if with Legends, I I don't know.

(16:54):
I really want to, but it's just you know, like.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Guys, we'll talk about the state of play, like next
year's just getting more more static.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And there's so many games in February and March that
I want to play, so if it comes out of
that pocket, it's like I'm already spending a lot of money.
So we'll see, and yeah, I guess it kind of ends.
If Kirkland picks this game up, we'll talk about it
next week. If not, unfortunately, I just know ghost coverage
on side Quest, so PlayStation send us codes and we
will gladly play the game.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
But yeah, I would, I would do. Then it's just yeah,
games are expensive. You gotta and it's like for me,
it's always like it's not the it is the expense,
but it's also what I try now is I don't
want to buy a game, play it for a little
bit and then not play that that for me is
the more hurtful. If I knew I was gonna dive
right in. Plus just like Thanksgivings come up, getting busy
and everything. But that's where it's like for me, that's
why I try to go okay, That's why same thing

(17:39):
with the Donk Coon. I haven't rushed it because I
have been doing like just awesometimes you side stuffer on
the way because I want to play this. I don't
want to do what I've done before main campaign and
then oh it sits there and like, oh, I'll get
back to it, and then it's years later you're like, oh,
I never touched a single thing again, So I will
be looking forward to it. Have you heard all the reviews,
because one of my concerns when they first revealed that

(18:00):
have you seen how much more like gunplay there is,
or if there's gun usage, or because remember I was like, oh,
I don't like that like your cad.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I've heard gun it's pretty minimal, like you can kind
of play the game without. It doesn't seem like, oh,
this enemy type the only way you can take them
out is by a parry in their attack with a gun.
The guy's I feel like it's kind of on the
outside of things, like it's not like, okay, now we're
the gun game is just like one tool in your
uh feather in your cap I sup.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Seems like but no, I think when you're tumbout sale
it will be for a legends. I think, like what
I said in a couple of months ago, I think
that just all depends on sales. Right. If it's another
I think if it sells the same or better obviously
than the first goes, they won't be sale for a while.
If there is a bit of a dip. I could
see especially this out September. I could see that Christmas time,
like even a Boxing day, even if it's ten or
fifteen dollars off, I can see. Yeah. But again I

(18:49):
think that depends on how it does in the opening
month or so.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So yeah, I mean, I feel like in the PS
four generation, PlayStation was doing crazy sales, like they wore
like a year or two later. You can get the
game for like ten bucks or something crazy, And maybe
I have my view one that's a little skewed because
I had the PS four late and so a lot
of these things were already out for a bit. But
I feel like at the PS five they've not been
doing that. Like there are several games since I bought
my PS five, like Spider Man two for example, hasn't

(19:13):
gone on sale once. Uh they're taking it for five.
So maybe that's just for Spider Man, because that's like
I think their second best selling franchise after Grand Turismo.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
They were just released like a that, so which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Maybe Spider Man exception to that since they know it's
going to sell. I'm not sure, but even Spider Man
PS four, I feel like that one did go on sale, but.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Even what is Miles going for right now? You know,
I'm wondering what that's even.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, well I had like the PS five upgrade versions
that was like more with that version.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I'm seeing Amazon fifty eight dollars. I'm seeing Best
By sixty five dollars. So it's like that's for the
PS five copy five one. Yeah, okay, okay, so the
Ultimate Edition is ninety dollars the Best.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's what they do. I've noticed. That's what PlayStation has
been doing. They put the ultimate Deluxe versions on sale,
but they won't put the base game on sale because
that's another one for Final Fantasy seven Rebirth and and remake.
Like I want to play both those games, get them.
I want to finally not Final Places since seven off
the backlog and you know, get ready for that trilogy one.
But they only put the deluxe versions on sale. But

(20:18):
like the deluxe versions on sale are still more expensive
than like the base game, and it's like I don't
need all this extra crap. I just want to play
like the basic game. I don't need all this. So yeah,
it's definitely they've gotten you know, they're sharpening their knives
a little bit on the on the sales, which I
think makes sense, and I you know, it's probably working
for them. But I also just think like now they're
releasing a lot less games than they were in the
PS four generation just because game development take longer and

(20:39):
they've had some huge fails with Concord and like the
live service push, So it makes sense that they got
to try and get every dollar they can. Hence why
they're also putting games on like Nintendo and an Xbox
and stuff, right, Quicker, I guess they haven't done Xbox, Yeah,
but they're they're gearing up for it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, they probably will. And then that's the thing, the
same thing when it comes down to we'll see how ghostessause.
I think that's the thing is people are going to
be a lot more choosy, and I think tons of people. Again,
next year looks to be expensive year because next year, unfortunately,
and I guess and fortunately, there's just a lot of
like non skippable games. I feel like for a lot
of people that listen to this podcast and are our vicinity, right,
I mean they were just talking about that like a

(21:16):
couple of days ago. It's like GTA Wolverine and Legos
Like that's a already, Like that's a guaranteed. Okay, there's
my wall right there. That's almost three hundred dollars. Yeah,
Lego Batman, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
And Bond Resident Evil for me, a Bond for Wolverine. Yeah.
So yeah, tons of stuff, tons of stuff. Well here's
a game that's probably not gonna come out next year,
but maybe in the future. Uh.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
There was a leak today from Insider Gaming that there's
a new Lord of the Rings game in development. So
Embraced obviously grabbed up the rights to Lord of the
Rings video games and I forget what other thing, maybe
theme park is this is a grand.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
On the movies. They have the movie.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
They have the movie, right, Yeah, it's for the first
three couple of things they don't have access to.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, so it's for the just the lowther Rings trilogy.
They have the rights to go and that's why. But
they're partnering with Warner Brothers to make the movie. So
that's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But anyway, I feel like since that
we haven't seen a ton of things and announced from them.
Was even even Gallam I think was probably in development
before that. Acquisition happened, and I think since then, like
there's a couple of random like mobile games, so maybe
they kind of started those, and obviously they continue to
fund gall them and release it and do trailers and

(22:28):
publish it and all that. But anyway, this is another
another one we have here. It's apparently a third person game.
We really don't have any info about it, by the way,
so you're not gonna get much but third person game.
We don't know the developer yet, and it's being compared
to Hogwarts Legacy in a way. But to me, that
all that means is that, like, oh, Hogwarts Legacy was

(22:48):
the best selling game of that year, and so if
you say that, it sounds good for investors, and like,
you know, it's not like this is a public statement
or anything, but that's just to me. When you say
we want to be like Hogwarts Legacy, it means we
want to sell like Hogwarts its legacy, And obviously the
suits love to hear that kind of comparison, So to me,
that's like as deep as that connection goes. But we
could discuss what that would really mean if it actually

(23:10):
is like Hogwarts Legacy in some way, because I don't
really see the one to one of like school classroom,
Like I guess it's the open world part of it,
but I don't know, maybe like a row herem guy
and you're training up and going on battles, like I
don't really know how how else it could be like
like Hogwarts Legacy.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, because I agree with you news wise on there,
But that's why I wanted to throw it to you
as far as you's like, Okay, let's say we're in
that room and they're pitching us they want to be
like that. What is Let's say it's like that game
where it is a bigger there's an open world map,
but it's kind of like Spiderman New York. Hogwarts obviously
is Hogwarts. Hogwarts Igency is like Hogwarts the school. Then
you have the grounds out there. What if you could
pick one location and you don't go to the locations,

(23:48):
but one location in the lower rings that you could
that's the basement, and you build upon it. What would
it be like? Would it be Shire, would be Rivendale?
Would it be how deep? Like? Where would you go?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's it's not what everyone wanted, but we just got
that Shire game, that cozy game, and you know, got
really bad reviews. I was thinking of still picking up anyway,
and I didn't. I've I've been telling myself, I'm just
gonna buy these Lord of the Rings games, like like
gall them and on the Shire one, but I just
I haven't. I've held off because the reviews are so bad.
They're not even just like these games are okay, They're
just horrendous reviews. So I've just avoided them. So I'm

(24:19):
gonna avoid that one. I feel like, and this is
just my my Lord of the Rings risk knowledge coming
in here, but like Rohan and like, that area is
pretty well in the middle, so I feel like you
could easily just slap that down as like your home base. Obviously,
riding horses, you can fly around or not fly around
right around other areas. You can get to some other
like key points of location, like pretty quickly you get

(24:40):
down to always mixed up Gone do or Mortar, but
like you get down to like that kind of area,
you go up to some other iconic locations hit Helms
Deep because I feel like, obviously you just mentioned that
they have specifically the rights to that trilogy. I feel like,
given that this movie that's getting greenlit is like just
you know, trying to pull on a nostalgia feel. I
feel like that's maybe what they'd go for hearing what

(25:02):
they would have greenlit is maybe it isn't you playing
as Airborne, but it's like these characters are gonna be
in here. It's people in the mix of that kind
of thing. I feel like that seems pretty likely to me.
If knowing Embracer and knowing that it's just like kind
of a cash grab situation, that would be maybe my
guess and maybe my hope as well. But I also
think an Elvin thing could be cool. I feel like

(25:23):
I want to know more about these elves and that
could be an interesting setting. But I don't know if
that's like if we go to Morkward, if it's just
too say me in that way, I'm not exactly sure,
but yeah, what do you what do you think any
other different pitch?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, Like, I feel like tons of people and I
thought you might go there, so tomes of people are
screaming this out. I wouldn't want this because they're lower
on my roster of characters I like, but I feel
like lots of people would want the Dwarves and like
the minds of Morian build that out like this year
on actually Life we will.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Actually sorry, but in like that is also a game
that came out a couple years ago that I think
everyone forgets about. Is you're literally just a Lord of
the Rings dwarf in a huge thing and you with
your friends and stuff. So I feel like that just happened.
And also again that reviewed kind of poorly. But also
I think that one did start before Embracer I had
the acquisition as well, so who knows, maybe they just
want a second shot at it.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, I just feel people are like trolls trolls, but
I feel like the two is it's either something or
Dwards drawers not trolls. I feel like it to me,
it is it is either Rivendell or it is something
man related, whether it's Rohan. I think even though Rohan,
like Rohanne has the activities, I do think gond Or,
with the tower and how big that city is, you

(26:33):
could build into multiple activities as far as they're not
as fun as legacy, but soword fighting, bow and arrow craftsmanship.
Maybe you can still do horses there and everything you
have like a you know, seeing controls, like trading against trolls.
I guess the other one I honestly and I don't know.
I can't remember what they're technically racist. We talk about
this whole time with the Retro and the Lord of

(26:53):
the Rings. Technically, if you want to try to be
Hogwarts Legacy, they're like the Nthrillian or whatever, like the
whoever Gandalf's races, that could be something too, because because
I think there's obviously the danger of if you make
that too magic base. It's just like, well, this is
like Hogwarts Legacy. I'm gonna wait till Legacy two comes out.
But sometimes we've seen at big people of like, hey,

(27:15):
you guys made successful Batman trilogy. You guys want to make,
you know, games for service, like doesn't matter what we think, right,
So they could when you're thinking Dylan of like that's
their pitch, that could also just be literally what they're thinking.
The big weall use a wizard. We have wizards, right,
like you literally could be getting And don't get me wrong,
I think there's some potential. Sure, Tom Bomblin, that's my guy.
But like I think they're honestly like, let's say Hogwars

(27:39):
Legacy didn't exist if you were playing as and you're
saying nostalgia. Even Gandalf. Let's say you're Gandalf, the gray
is the main character, tons of power sits there, tons
of things you can make wherever they're from magical you
can fight uh god, what what's the big guy with
the sword whip? He kills Gandalf in the first one.
Oh yeah, like you fight one of those. So honestly,

(28:02):
Gandalf or a wizard could make tons of sense.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But uh, I think the idea of like playing is
Gandalf because you know, like sometimes in those movies he
just like f's off for a bit and like does
his own thing. Like it could be interesting to play
as him, and like, you know, you have to assist
the Fellowship along its path to some extent by like
going to do these certain things. Go to Saramon, going
that whole adventure. Yeah, actually be with them at certain

(28:25):
times if they just want to straight up go into
the same era as those exactly and like just following
that same storyline. But then there are little gaps you
could fill in there, and that could be uh I
don't know, that could be that could be interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, So that that that's obviously the direct one. But yeah,
to me, it's a one the other and yeah, just
be a questioned like you brought up too with what
they own and because I still think you can do
offshoots of it, but it's just a question of would
they make it an actual character, right because obviously Hogwart's
Legacy didn't do that. And it's funny there's kind of
like a a one to one comparison because I have
I think we all have different memories of different games,

(28:58):
but I have massive memories of Chamber of Secrets on GameCube.
I love that game. I played that constantly. That was
the same point to get to Legacy, the same way
I have massive you know, nostalgia for the Two Towers
or the Turn of the King game. So that's where
you know, we've always I don't think they'd be making
a game like that. It does. Yeah, it's funny because

(29:18):
you brought the Drawers one, you brought the Shire one.
But since Shadow of War, we haven't really had like
a big triple a Lord of the Rings game, right,
So I do think it's time, and I do think
that the timing could be there if those movies come
out and hit and I feel like they're trying to
make a play for it. We'll see what those movies do.
I think Rings of Power it feels a bit of
like a mixed response with people, but it could it

(29:41):
could strike. I don't think it was straight as big
as Hogwarts, so because Hogwarts is that that's a whole
different thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I mean that, like didn't that beat Call of
Duty in that year? I'm gonna think it was like
Call of Vanguard or like that, you know, one that
no one cares about. But still, yeah, what do you
think is so obviously we're not in the era anymore
where every movie that comes out gets a game tie in.
But could this be a Hunt for Gollum game? O?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
God, it could be because you could play as air Gorn.
They could give you, legitimately just a small area as
your main right, even if it's not I don't know
what other is by the shire, but just something where
Golm's been seen in this village and then you build
that out. And yeah, because either one, because Gandal's in
that story and air Gorns in that story, so you
could do the Gandal thing, you do the air Gorns.

(30:25):
So I don't think so, because my hope is that
they are saying like Hogwarts legacy. The idea is, let's
do something separate. But I don't think you're out of
the realm possibility that it could be. I guess the
only thing, Yeah, I guess it's tough, right because you're
a double edged sword where we're making a movie that
has Goldman the title, but we also put out not
we but like there's a call and game that came
out that did not do well, So do we want

(30:46):
the stink of that? So I would say they'd actually
avoid that, and I would hope that somebody over there
has the brains to tell them, like, hey, game production
cycles don't go you know, are different than films. So
it's one of these things. We don't need the Hunt
for Golm game coming out two years after the movie, right,
So kind of like when we find.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
It sound clear when this because obviously a lot of
the info we've been getting about Hunt for Golm has
been somewhat recently, but who knows how long they've been
talking about or how long this game has been in development.
But I think no matter what, yeah, that production is
gonna be a lot well because Hunter for Golam does
that have like a tentative.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Date at this point twenty seven right now, Christmas of
twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, that's you know, two full years from now. So
let's say this game has been in development for two
or three years already or something.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
How long has this Nel's Republic been development? Though? Dylan
with the Embracer group and that too, you know, that's
not good. So that's my concern there. You know, we
get this teaser for Hunt of Gallum and then twenty
thirty five were playing it.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know, Hm, would you prefer a creative character or
play as a known character.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think that's it's tough because I think I'd obviously
have to see what the story in the eras, but
I think just to lean, I would go a created character.
I think that was a lot and because I'm somebody
usually like I would hate in wrestling games when story
mode was always just create a wrestler. It's like, no,
I want to play as the wrestlers. But I think
some games like a Hogwarts and like this have a

(32:13):
certain fan wish fulfillment where it's like you want to
be there, and you already brought up of characters around
you want to be in there. Aragorn's giving you the
speech right, or Aragon looks like you're my you're my
right hand man, you need to help me. I'm gonna
go off and you help me do this, or even Gandalf.
So I think I careat because I think that's one
aspect that tons of people we talked to our review
of that. I think we all spend hours, hours, but

(32:34):
tons of times that character creation right or even after
the fact, when you could do your clothes or your
scarves or your hats, Like I think that's the same
thing of everything of do you want this big thing
of armor? Do you want me thrill? Do you want?
You know? And And that's I would hope too. They
would be smart, and that's for something offusly they would
create a lot more time. So I don't think they
do it, but it would be great if you could.

(32:54):
It wouldn't even matter who you are and make they
I don't think they do it. I was just pitching
that if you could do a man l for a
dar But again, I feel like that's so much different
as far as tax and everything. But could you imagine
that if not only do you get a pick one,
you could design them and that kind of gives you
almost like a little to the extent of with elm
Ring when you would pick like the type of character
gonna be in your attributes, right, So it'd be kind

(33:16):
of fun if you could do that. I don't think
they would. I think they would just go with man
and keep it at that.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I say creating character, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm
the same. I think I'm the same for that. There's also,
of course, like if this becomes a canyon story and
it's like, well, now we have this whole other journey
that aired, it gets kind of weird, especially if this
game isn't great, which that is my default expectation that
this game is not gonna be good, just based off

(33:40):
Embracer's track record and what I think their priorities are.
But you know, we obviously don't know anything about it,
so that's probably unfair of me, especially when we don't
even have a developer. But I will definitely potentially give
it a shot. I mean, you know, obviously the Shire game, Gallum,
you got to prove yourself before I'll just pick up
your game blindly. Even though I love Lord of the
Rings and this is not that. And yes we didn't
discuss this, but like Warroal herom what if they do

(34:03):
with something in that. I mean, all of a sudden
movie didn't really move the needle much. No, but do
you think they touched that at all? Or is that
I think because those that would have been a fun
ass game. I think I think there's potential there for
a really cool game, cool different characters, art style wise.
Obviously that would be quite a choice for Lord of Rings.
That'd be a different than what people expect. But yeah, no,
that movie just did people didn't care about it.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
But yeah, no, I never I never actually finished it.
I need to finish at some point. I didn't. I
didn't care too much for it, and obviously the public
didn't either, So I think they they they'd stay away.
And I think, like you said, though, because they did
the hobby game, they probably stay away from that because
I think, like you said that to me, is that
was the pitch where it's the shire and you go
that you know you're a hobbit, you can be a
fighting hobbit, whatever. But I don't think they'll do that.

(34:47):
So yeah, it's again who knows its actually happened, but
obviously it sounds like it's something in the work. So
and like I said, I do think those the Shadow
games did well enough. Like I feel there is a
big base of Lord of the Rings fans. I don't
think it's as big as Hogwarts, but and I would
love that, you know, And even that I've said this before,
I think people thought this was a boring thing. I've
always pitched us with the Star Wars games as well.
I would take a very well made triple A you

(35:10):
know game for both your playing as Luke. You're playings
Air Going, and you're just playing through the trilogy, you know,
like reliving those set pieces if you and you can
add a little few things here and there. But think
about like a triple A Unroll Engine five now playing
Helms Deep there. There could be some really magical set
pieces and stuff there. But I think people don't don't
want to go that route.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
So yeah, true, all right, there you go. Lord of
the Rings. We will keep an eye on and we'll
keep our eye of sore on on that one for
when we get more information about it, which could be
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Back there's a guy Named. Kojima he releases video. Games

(38:29):
he of course released Des terrainting two that you AND
i covered extensively here on Side, quest and he did
like a live stream A kojima DIRECT i guess where
he just announced a bunch of things.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
There stream of the company created it. Was it was
it was early for, them but it was. LATE i
watched some of, it but it was like A gv
day whole, thing so it's like really. Cool they even
had a Whole destraining two panel Was, Norman George, miller And,
giermo SO i watched with that because, like, oh this is.
Cool so it was if You're kadima, fan it was
a it was a fun. STREAKER i didn't watch the.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Full, thing but, yeah not to be on the, spot
BUT i don't get it AND i didn't watch, It
SO i would love if you took the IF i
passed the reins, over if you want to lead this
segment of the, show BECAUSE i, watched you, know THE odi.
Trailer i've read up on some of this, stuff BUT
i was seeing so little info AND i don't know
if these articles are bad or if the info was
just not that much of. It SO i don't. Know
can you guide me through the good the good juice? Here?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well he even did like a WHOLE i can't remember
if he called them, phases BUT i think he. Did he.
Did they started it off with the like the phases
of The kajima or The kagema. Productions they talk about phase,
one which we've all already been. Through phase two right
now was The Death stranding two, Phase so it's just
getting that game, out getting ON, pc getting some other
like additions out there and. Stuff so that was, that

(39:45):
and then phase three, is, uh it sounds Like odie
and there's all like smaller goals. Too they kind of
like what we, have but that's od right. Now and
they did obviously seeing that trailer because it ends up
being Ode, knock they kind, OF i guess semi soft
confirm that it is like one. Game it sounds like
there's gonna be a bunch of Like odie is the,
title but then there's gonna be like his story IS
i think it's His Story's knock And Jordan peele's gonna

(40:07):
be something else or it's the other way. Round So i'm,
SORRY i got that screw anthology.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Situation, yeah there's also people other than those, two right
that are kind of doing stuff or is it JUST i.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Think, so well, maybe BUT i don't think they've been.
Named if, SO i think right now it's Just kajima and.
That and then he announced that they're kind of very
early stages working ON. Phy isn't, right that's how you
say it isn't. Isn't, yeah we're on the early. Stages
they released box, art which people ARE i don't agree with.
It i'm not sure if you've seen who people think

(40:37):
is on that box.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Art oh, no it just looked like generic white guy to,
me who.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is, Okay so the big conspiracy theory is because there's
multiple photos with, them and they've both come from.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Some active voice actors for, that didn't They they?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Did, yeah there's one of there's one GUY i think From,
eternals and there's one Girl kimra who is but she's
an ACTRESS i like in other stuff. TOO i. Can't
i'd have to look it. Up but, yeah so they
already got that, going which is again he said.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
That Don Lee Manami hamabe and so From God's La minus,
one you got someone from The, eternals you got someone From.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Furiosa, ohah so it's Hurt, yeah because She's fiosa's mother
in the flashback at the beginning of the whole first. Act,
yeah which is so funny because when the movie Can
alway tweet about him, like, yeah that's A kagema actor right,
there WHICH i appreciate the. Flink it's the same thing with.
Us we have little actors like, oh, yeah that's A
gv Act so, yes they announced. That but because the thing,
is none of those cast members are like a generic white, guy,

(41:32):
Right so that's what it's. Like so they've both they've
had multiphotos taken, together they've both said they want to work.
Together take a look at that, Photo, dylan do you
See Robert pattison on that? Photo because that's what the
internet believes who that.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
IS i, don't ACTUALLY i don't KNOW i did at.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
ALL i don't now my.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Hair the facial, structure the, hair BUT i don't see anything.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Else the. HAIR i can see a little bit when it's.
SHORTER i could see them pushing the. Forward BUT i
could see also his face not looking like this because
they want to wait a little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Longer to be, fair he does like a little tenanty in.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
This he, does, yes and it's definitely. His it's it's
his build, though, too Like Passon's. Bill he's like a
very toned up. Guy so that's just the internet conspiracy.
Theory but it's interesting that they released this and the
voice actors because Even kajima express like this is this
game is far, off like he was talking like he's
like just, way but again they're doing work on SO

(42:27):
i don't know what his far off means because the
same THING i remember last YEAR i got, scared or
it was last. Year this year we're destraining, too because he, said,
oh that's that's ways, away and then it came out
this year BECAUSE i was, like, no, no he keeps
saying it's, right it's so to. Me if like they
got voice, ACTORS i don't think it's as LIKE i
think it's like three years, still BUT i think people were, like,
oh it's like another five to six. Years, granted, yes

(42:49):
this could be A ps six, game right or you,
know because it is so, exclusive or maybe a. Duel
and then they didn't talk about remember unless remember a
couple of months ago when he's talking about like a
game movie, experience was that that wasn't fizzin', right that
was something.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
ELSE i, thought, no because there's another, thing he's partnered
with a, studio, right he's partnered with That niantic who
did the who Uh pokemon? Go is? Thereing and so
something about that of of, OH i can pull some
quotes or something like, that but essentially he's working with
them to create like some hybrid real life game. Situation
so that might be the. One BUT i, MEAN i

(43:26):
also feel like NOT od was that, too? Right like
he was talking about that being less of a theme
that as you traditionally see it and more something else,
Entirely BUT i is that marketing speaker does he mean?
IT i don't.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Know, yeah now, though do you like also talk about that,
trailer which like and there's more stuff around that. TOO
i just LOVE i love kajimas so much of like
not only the quality, stuff but already like AROUND od
and the, stuff it's like there's like the lore within the,
lore but like we'll get there as far AS i can. See,
though with that movie game, HYBRID i don't think WHAT i,

(43:58):
watched they didn't speak about, it AND i didn't see
any poll quotes of anything in. DEPTH i think that's still.
THAT i think that's even past. Isn't But i'm wondering
IF odi is very much like the trial, run because
now that being in a sound like an anthology, game
and it is on Games, PASS i imagine that's gonna
be a day one Games, pass so it wouldn't be
like a full like IF i could see it not
even being like a full price, game to be, honest that's.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
What i'm wanted To, YEAH i didn't perceive it that.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Way so that's What i'm. THINKING odi is like the smaller,
experience AND i think that's kind of the test. GROUND
i bet while he was doing that he found a way, Like,
okay NOW i get this because, yeah people showed the
screens shots camera Named sophia something from THE it. Movies but, like,
yeah we're getting, That, yeah we're getting that scary point
of these. Graphics are just looking.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Those chairs blew my, mind Like sofa's. Armchairs it's.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Ridiculous so but h, yeah and then.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
More baby stuff going on in there, too always.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Babies With, kima you. Know so but, yeah and then
we got that, trail Which i'm sure we'll talk about,
here but the other scut a lot about that was
in the trailer they have like the set up a
as far as all the dialogue and all the texts and,
everything and a lot of stuff's blanked. Out she's, Like,
okay what's going on? Now this isn't, confirmed but there
was just some internet sleuth that puts words to where
things might be and it AND i think we kind

(45:13):
of figured this already when this game was. Announced but
it's looking like even there might be some things taken
FROM pt like one of the one of the word
like symbols matched the like taken from you, know unused
files or. Whatnot and it was, like it's been ten
years since playable and it's just like, again who? Knows
AND i would love it if even that's not, true

(45:34):
if could just watch that like, laughing And i'll look at,
this but LIKE i think, it there's definitely this is
the spiritual successor in that. Way and Uh, NO i,
loved loved this trailer AND i cannot wait TO i
was disappointed with no. DATE i was hoping we were
gonna get this even a, year but Uh, NO i
loved this. TRAILER i love the. ATMOSPHERE i definitely think
it's like we've told, about it's gonna be more of a.

(45:55):
EXPERIENCE i think it's gonna be even like less than,
this BUT i could see it almost being kind of
like Hell blade right where also there's tons of playing
and lots of funny but it's more of a cinematic
game that you're playing for the story and those emotions
AND i feel like od especially. Psychological, yes so uh,
NO i love this trail AND i, thought, like EVEN
i think it's, dumb but like even the poster of

(46:18):
her with the massive hands around her, Head i'm, like
that catches your, eye like right, away it's like you
wouldn't think, that, Right like, oh the post of Her
kagma's next. Game so, far it's just a girl and
there's big hands around her, here like, okay but when
you see the image like right away now it strikes
you like, okay because they're creepy. Hands they're, rotten and it's, like,
okay why are their hands that? Big SO i thought
this trailer was. Phenomenon, yeah it was. COOL i hope
he does, this maybe not every, year but every time

(46:39):
they have like a you, know a milestone because they
think it was like a five year or something like.
That it's like it that's a cool because it is
crazy for. Us It's. Kajima but with this student that's
still smaller and like a small. Unit. People they got
tons of stuff going, on you, know they GOT, odi
they Got, pheasants they got this other you know whatever
game going. On i'm sure there's other stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
My home credit card could credit.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Card stuff like? That where the? Podcast the credit? Card you?
Know and oh yeah the?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
PODCAST i Remember.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Jackulle's Big summer games. First and when that's.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Still going on or was that like a short like
we're doing five episodes special of?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
THIS i don't. KNOW i NEVER i never, listened but you, know,
again check out Our Death stran. INTERVIEW i hope somewhere
in there there's A Death stranding, three even if he's
not making it going by somebody just because but, YEAH
i thought it was cool and, yeah O D I'm
i'm very excited For but, yeah what do you think
about at least od you, saw, right mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah. Yeah as someone who never PLAYED pt but like
has seen, it of, course that, is you, know a
very iconic. Thing And i'm so much more into horror
games these, days SO i love to look. This i'm
after the visuals are, insane but just the weirdness of,
it the creepiness of, it you, know like the just
little visual things that are super unique that he comes up,

(47:51):
with but always or sometimes feel quite. Fresh where she's
lighting the, candle eventually the character like busts through the,
door and then like the little photograph of an eye
on the, window and as the characters like approaching the
eye like starts like freaking out and twitching and looking.
Around little things like, that just like little personality bits put. Everywhere,
obviously the weird creepiness with the, BABY i don't, know

(48:12):
because does he have? Kids could you do.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
You think he? DOES i can take a, look BUT
i don't.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Think he's like fifty or sixty or something like he
must have.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Okay he has two. CHILDREN i just feel LIKE i NEVER.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I wonder if there was like some really traumatic shit
that happened with like the birth of his children or.
SOMETHING i just feel like some of the continued themes
of going back to weird, baby.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
It happens to a lot of. People somebody could have
lost one of child's like it, before you, know like
early on right that it's it's very charm and unfortunately with,
pregnancy so it could have even been something like that
because it always especially With Death stranding always feels like
the loss of a, child which there's nothing, there but
obviously if you're, somebody that happens all the, time if
you could uh many versions of.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
That so, yeah, yeah, NO i mean there's not much
in the way of gameplay, Here BUT i was not
ever SINCE i started this expecting it to be a
big gameplay. Thing obviously when the first showing of it
is just, like, yeah, WELL i forget if it was
live action footage or it just looks so realistic that
we thought it was live action. Footage but of Just
sofia And hunter just like screaming and making weird, faces,
like oh, yeah this is not gonna be a game

(49:11):
like a Game i've seen. Before to be, fair, THOUGH
i guess That's. Stranding like that first, game the trailers
for that did not show much gameplay until like the very,
end and then like in the last month or two
is when he did the blow of like hey you
can put this ladder down and climb this. Ladder like
we didn't see that stuff until like very.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Close yeah the, game Remember Death, stranding we barely knew
the gameplay, right it was like they, weren't which made.
Sense they weren't gonna pre a walking sim at the, time,
Right but.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Even with they show, here like the way the characters
hands are moving and, stuff it makes me feel, like, oh,
yeah this is all gameplay that you're, seeing like you
are the one controlling all, This and obviously it's like very,
cinematic and if you're actually playing, it you can like
flip your camera around to three sixties and like take
yourself out of, it ruin the, immersions so to. Speak but,
uh and Then i'm sure as you like start lighting the,
candles it walks into the cut scene so you can't

(49:56):
turn around and see the guy all that kind of.
Stuff but, Yeah i'm excited for. THIS i can't wait
to see what's going on with. It The Jordan peele
aspect of it as wells is extremely interesting to, me
and that also makes me feel like it's probably not
gonna be a super gameplay heavy, thing because, yeah HE'S
i don't know if he really knows much about game,
development AND i don't know if he plays many. Games

(50:16):
he's more of a movie, director nothing wrong with, that
but it's cool to see how these worlds can can.
Blend and SO i don't, know do you feel, like
is it That Kojima's productions is still making that the
gameplay part of The Jordan peel. Stuff it's just That
kojima isn't, like quote unquote directing. It or do you
think it's like there's some other team that's making this
thing and they're like kind of sticking it.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
TOGETHER i feel like even if it's the other, team
kajimas like highly, involve like this would be the. COMPARISON
i would make that and just walk with. Me for
the first, Season Peacemaker James gunn directed every episode and
then because The superman he couldn't direct every episode of season,
two but he thoroughly oversaw. EVERYTHING i think just because
it's short And Peel kuldjima would be the same way

(50:57):
of like, YEAH i have my teamwork on, it but
he would be in that bay almost as much As.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah that's. True that's even be like the marketing, angle
where Like peel's really not involved a whole, lot but
he's just, like you, know you put his name there
and he goes maybe just get.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Right of, like, HEY i have this IDEA i don't
think would work as a. MOVIE i don't really make short. Films.
ANYMORE i like, game and who, KNOWS i don't. Know
maybe he's like maybe just Love Death, stranding, right came
out that that was a game AROUND covid, time maybe
when people had nothing to do and couldn't make. Movies
he booted up THE ps five And Death stranding spoke to, him,
Right SO i mean it could be that where it's, like,
hey use a short story and make a game out of,

(51:31):
it you.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Know, yeah like Maybe peel had like this is a
movie IDEA i, had and, yeah it didn't quite work
out as a, movie so go, ahead because, yeah even
like the obviously the language barrier of, that LIKE i
assume most of his team obviously it's The japanese, studio
most of the, Team like he doesn't even Speak english like,
FLUENTLY i, guess or LIKE i don't When i've seen.
Interviews IT'S i don't think he's. Fluent, yeah so it
like obviously there's gonna be a disconnect, there Good peels

(51:54):
working with like His japanese. Team like, anyway SO i
have this crazy idea like in Get o where this
there's like a person inside of a person's head and
then you fall into this sunking place and like all
this good day not translated super, WELL i could see that.
Happening so we'll keep an eye on what's going on
here with this. One do you do you think.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
That's next YEAR od because they didn't date, it so
that's WHY i was. Surprised that made me, question now
what it?

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Is FIRST, cd it was last. Year, no it was
at least two years. Ago NOW i feel like.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
You think it was two years ago, NOW i.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Think so let me see IF i get first of
you have The Xbox Developer direct in Twenty november twenty twenty.
Two also three years ago is when it was first,
announced SO i could. SEE i could see it being
next year if it's a shorter a shorter.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Thing. Yeah AND i.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Don't, know like considering like the anthology ish ness of,
it like maybe maybe it doesn't release all the, ones
like maybe you get part, one you Get Odie knock next,
year or a few months later you.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Get next year come, back od get.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Out you, know you get whatever the next one.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
IS i would love. It and this is just another
rant that you, know me And taylor and the end
Of October view and The Itch. Show they were dropping
the first episode the last week Of. October i'm, LIKE
i don't understand. That that's WHAT i would do is
prime Marketing october Even i'm not. Sure maybe it's just,
two but let's say you have four drop one a, week,
man that'd be that would be some fun bonus side
quest episodes right, there because it's just BECAUSE i never

(53:20):
played it that, way but WHEN i played out On
wake this, time because all the chapters are to again, like,
oh that would have been fun to come back.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Everything NORMALLY i do, wait but this is one THAT
i would definitely check out as they released, THEM i,
think especially if it's On Game, pass WHICH i think
they already announced that it, is so presumably you would
justly jump in.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
There even if they don't do, that that'd. Be that's
What i'm, thinking is either it's gonna be usually could
cheat because what the first just strainting Was, november this
one was when was? This this was in.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Fifth?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
June, yeah, okay so, YEAH i JUST i think because
if it's, creepy you're either gonna get, it AND i
don't think it's early next, Year so my prediction is
gonna Be fall next. Year and are they smart dropping That?
October dropping that spooky, month you, know keep that, Going so.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah that would be very. Cool was there anything else
from this, uh this direct whatever you want to call? It, Kojimafest, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
No i'm you know, again if people Liked, Estranding i'd
recommend go check out the, panel like It's, Kajima giermo
And George, miller like three great mindes and different sets
and stuff like. That so, it's, uh, YEAH i WOULD
i would recommend giving it a.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Watch so right, on let's move on then to The
sony state of play that happened last. Week so you
AND i did a live watch along for, this which
is still on YouTube if anyone wants to go back
and watch us react to all this. Stuff and then
we did a little cutout of the wolverine section specifically
through that up on the feed so people could have
already seen. That we're gonna talk about The wolverine a

(54:47):
little bit more here as well as at least the
highlights from the showcase. Here how do you feel about
the showcase overall in? Hindsight quality? WISE i don't know
if you want to give a number out of five or,
whatever but, yeah how do you feel?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It you had a five that that's a tough. Thing
i'd give it like A, obviously we got The, wolverine
so that was a hype, thing BUT i feel like
it'd be like a three point five like right. THERE
i feel, yeah LIKE i feel If wolverine wasn't, here
it would have been rough BECAUSE i remember there was
some stuff all we were. Watching i'm, like, okay what
are we doing? HERE i remember THAT.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I was losing hope too That wolverine.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Was especially that cradles. REMOTE i was, like, oh same.
THING i was, LIKE i know people are excited for
the two d got Of, war but that's not the
same hood spat as like a you, know A, wolverine
right or even a New god Of. War like it
serves a different, audience, Right so, NO i, think, obviously
what's that the first thing Called? Sorrows? Right sorrows sorrow
a R o S, yeah like and like you, said

(55:43):
it does look like. RETURNABLE i think it was like
a good showing. IT i enjoyed. That there's another game
we'll talk about. THAT i enjoyed a lot, Too but
there's just uh, yeah there's lots of stuff Where, Okay
i'm very excited For, halloween but showing this off and
being Like september of an.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Nexture it's, like, Weird, well.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
There's a lot of the those things were just for
a while it felt like are you just doing a
state of play for the sake of doing a state of?
Play and then even, myself, like you, Know i'm not
the biggest anime, guy but they do one of the
things THAT i, hate where they did like five minutes
of just like different games that are kind of that
flavor but all mixed together and they just become. One you.
Know to, me it's like spread them out or say
for a different state of, play like, hey you're gonna be,

(56:20):
here you'll be on the next, one you. Know SO
i thought it was like a it was a good.
TIME i think obviously they started strong and then ended very.
Strong but Without, wolverine THEN i think it would have
been probably in the failing, Grade LIKE i don't know
what else would have been, there Like god Of war
TWO d would have looked really good then, too and
even just stuff LIKE i guess people are buying, them
but like oh we got. Speakers it's, saying all, RIGHT

(56:43):
i don't know anyone's buying these. Speakers maybe there is but,
yeah SO i thought was a solid show with a strong.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Ending so, yeah, NO i LIKE i, SAID i Think
i'd give it the same. Grade it was kind of rocket.
Like there was a, couple you, know really cool things for,
me smaller things THINGS i didn't know, about so fun
couple surprises in. There BUT i think Until wolverine, hit
it was, Like, okay this is gonna be a, lesser,
lesser you, know state of play situation. Here but then
they really did stick the landing with not just a

(57:11):
quick another Teaser, wolverine but, like here's a trailer and
then here's you, know five ten minutes whatever it was
of developers talking about the, game meet the, actor so
you get like a bunch more. Information and then tiny
little bit more came through when they like did their blog,
post not not a whole lot more, information but like
a couple more details in. There so to, me that
was kind of a great way to close it. Out
and THEN i think, this This state Of play did

(57:33):
WHAT i often Critique xbox of doing in their showcases
and other showcases in, general is it gave almost everything
had a date or at least a, range and almost,
EVERYTHING i, think actually every single thing probably had, Gameplay
so that's WHAT i want dates AND i want gameplay
in these, showcases and this state of play absolutely nailed.
That like they weren't being too cagy about, anything weren't
showing like here's something to get excited for three years from,

(57:55):
now Like halloween was the most egregious, one but even, that, like,
well they still give us a date and still a,
gameplay so there is still something to chew on. There
SO i feel like that they did a really good
job here of, Like, okay if each game gets two,
minutes what kind of things are we putting in? There
and then closing it out with a? Date? Cool put
it on my. Calendar Now i'm kind of set up
for the. Future SO i think they did a good
job here of kind of filling the blanks a, bit

(58:16):
because we've you, know been a little, curious, okay With
ghosts coming, Out what's what's? Next what's the next big? Thing?
Sorrows maybe is that for for certain people because that
is a first part studio, NOW i. Believe and then,
Yeah wolverine kind of now we can presume is kind
of that next thing that's coming, Out and so obviously
you got to kind of fill in the, gaps cause
that's like a year from now pretty. Much. Uh AND
i think they did that with filling into some other.

(58:37):
Things And i'm sure you know that maybe That god
Of war twoty thing does come out earlier in the.
Year but they also might just want to stay away
from the black hole that Is Grand Theft. Auto so
maybe they just don't. Care maybe they're just gonna not
release anything for a few months and, say, hey, well
the only thing you're gonna buy on our platform IS
gta and we get a cut of, that so we're, happy.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
And we'll make The wolverine money later on In, fall
which we know they. WILL i think they've obviously we
just talked about this on those games for a. LOT
i know a lot of people weren't On Spider man,
too BUT i think that's more like A i think
it's more our crowd where it's like you you expected
these big leaps and, bounds WHERE i think most general
audience people were, like, OH i got More Spider. Man that's,
awesome you. Know LIKE i think same thing With, wolverine

(59:14):
especially even with the you, know we talk about a
little bit just even just the the more emirated. STUFF
i think that does appeal to a different. Crowd so,
yeah that's WHY i will, say even THOUGH i was
happy we Got, wolverine when we got the, DATE i
actually thought it was gonna be early BECAUSE i thought,
usually Like Evenspider, man when they did like a bigger,
reveal that's when we're, Like, okay we're starting to, go
because they did that first season For Spider man in

(59:34):
the greatest showcase of all time at THAT e, three
and then we didn't hear about for a long time
until they were like ready to. Go it's coming out.
Fall and then that's WHERE i, thought oh, early it's
gonna come up early next. Year and same thing Like
halloween when With, SEPTEMBER i was, like, oh you know,
Fall so yeah AGAIN i get BUT i think you're
kind of right that maybe it's Just Sorrow's wolverine some
probably little stuff along the. Way but we'll make our

(59:57):
big money ON. Gta we'll make our big, money you,
know call duty man like. That they they're making tons
of money still for just other gaming, stuff, Right so,
remasters they're going to Remaster last Of, us you, know
part two for another.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Time you, know so mm, hmm, yeah, Probably, well they
did announce that The Last Most part two is now
on the PlayStation plus. Catalog so that's that's a big
that's a big. Hit that's a big reason to, Subscribe
LIKE i definitely will, Subscribe LIKE i currently subscribed at
the lowest, tier SO i can Play Hell divers with you,
guys but, then, uh you, KNOW i will probably jump
up to that top tier again to Play last Of

(01:00:32):
us WHENEVER i want to get around to that kind of.
Thing so that was a, nice nice. Addition but, YEAH
i started off With, saros which, is, yeah the latest
game from Host. Mark so of course they Did, returnal
and this very much looks a lot Like, returnal so
it's kind of just more the. Same it's a game
That i've heard really good things. ABOUT i have not
got around to it, yet, UNFORTUNATELY i think, This, yeah

(01:00:52):
this looked. Good but the trailer for me was a
little bit, goofy where it was, Like, okay now we're
gonna do the little sill row or we show off
all the powers first power, shield second Power.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Dash it's, like, okay like the, way look it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Cool these are all good things to have in a
game like. This that's like a bullet hell third person,
thing but it just wasn't the most. Exciting BUT i
think they just kind of had to find some way
to make this seem extremely. Exciting and then that the
main CURTSUS i had Was, OKAY i like the, environment
but it's a little, samy and then like near the
end of the, trailer like here's like five or six
very different locations, visually which makes sense if it is
going to follow that reternal thing of kind of being

(01:01:29):
a roguelike where you're going through this presumably desert area
first and then you go up to the next, zone,
zone zone, zone and you get story stuff in. Between so,
YEAH i think it looks super, solid it looks really.
FUN i, still you, Know i'm gonna go back To
returnal before picking up this, one of, course because that's
definitely on the, backlog AND i think that is on
the catalog as well right. NOW ps plus SO i
think so, yeah But i've never played a House smart,
game BUT i think that they're making a very specific

(01:01:50):
type of. GAME i like that they're sticking to, it
and it seems like they're keeping their like budgets and
timelines in check BECAUSE i feel Like returnal came. Out
well was it twenty Twenty it was twenty twenty. One
maybe it's very early on the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Five, yeah it was like one of the first. Exclusives so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah so but here we, are you, know just four
years later with a new, game which is short for
these days and how long collections.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Are SO i love the game, too you, know it's not, like,
oh what happened? Here you, know, obviously like you, said
it's similar, style but sometimes it's just but. NO I
i think for, ME I i was interested in, this
but kind OF i just echo your sentiments that it
just made me, go, OH i want to Play returnal
because NOW i REMEMBER i was Very. RETURNAL I i
maybe would have Bought day. One but at that, time

(01:02:31):
didn't they have that whole like instant death thing or
if you die you got to start? Over and now
they have a mode where that's not the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Case, WELL I i think it still has the perman
death because it's a. Roguelike but what it. Does what
it didn't have was the ability to like pause midway
through a, run like at. All you couldn't put your
thing in rest, mode like it would just ruin your
run or. Whatever something weird like, that and that now
is fixed so you can like pause the game or
save your progress or. Whatever but it is still, roguelike
so if you, die you're still gonna go back with the.

(01:02:59):
Getting but now it HAS co which it didn't have
it when it first came.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Out, yeah but IF i say my, progress COULDN'T i
die and then just go back to that safe? Point? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
No, no, no you got to go back to level,
one floor, one start from. Scratch but then to beat
the whole game takes like two or three, hours you,
know when you're when you actually beat the, game you
know WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Mean, yeah that's a rogueli. Process, yeah it's still that's
still me stay very much on the back. Log i'm
very much into not not that would be a waste of.
Time But i'm very much in the games WHERE i
want to progress with the little TIME i.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Have LIKE i, mean you're making, progress but you still
got to, Like, OKAY i gotta Be world one, AGAIN
i gotta Be World war, NOW i have all these
MAYBE i have some, upgrades MAYBE i know, more maybe
there's a certain thing that unlocked, there so there is you,
know incentives to go back and do it. Again but,
yeah it's it's not brokelike for, sure AND i.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Think this is Too, yeah, NO i think so. Too but,
yeah i'd be curious see how. THIS i hope it's
a hit for them and that feeds that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Audience, There so a couple kind of reminder. Things well
maybe this was a New Microsoft FLIGHT sims coming over
to PlayStations number, eighth which is, yeah just funny because
It's xbox thing With microsoft in the. Title but of
course they're bringing all sorts of things over to PlayStation,
now so that's a good. Get i'm sure That i'll
sell super. Well battlefield six reminder that's coming out next,

(01:04:12):
week two weeks from, now On october.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Tenth, yeah THERE i called. THAT i remember you watched
live on the. Stream they're doing like a cool trailer
AND i was, like, oh this is battlefield because it's
just that's a battlefield and call. Duty do you? Know
are you are you picking Up battlefield.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
If it's playable through game pass because game has a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Play it's it's not gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
No oh then, No i'm not gonna be okay BECAUSE
i don't think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Either because he thought that. TOO i was talking to
him and he's, like oh, yeah And i'm, like oh,
really BECAUSE i would get that. Too and THEN i
looked into it this week AND i was, like oh,
no it's not on game it's BECAUSE i. Remember that's
how THE ea access. Works is the same thing with
The madden games because they put the last year's edition,
on but like the News man, GAME i gotta wait
till next. Year, so, Yeah battlefield is not on THE
Aa access state.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
One it's gonna be a no from, me But i'll.
Play it's, okay maybe because a lot of the Other
battlefield games are on and one of the recent most
recent ones are like those ones are all in the game.
Pass but, yeah you're, right they weren't their day, one
so that makes. Sense oh, well not the. World something
very interesting to Me DAS X remastered coming Out february.
Fifth you, Know i'm an immersive sim, fan BUT i

(01:05:19):
feel LIKE i shouldn't even say that BECAUSE i haven't
played System shock AND i haven't Played DAYS, x which
are kind of like the originators of the. Genre uh
and is kind of where you, Know, dishonored GAME i
love very, much is where a lot of the people
who make that game like cut their teeth by making
these games working on like smaller, ways and they went
out made their own studio and made their Own SO
i definitely want to play. This i've. PLAYED i played

(01:05:39):
a little bit Of DAYS x MANKIND i think is
that one that one that was on the PlayStation catalog
at some, Point but, YEAH i need to go back
and check this. Out BUT i just find it to
be a funny remaster because it doesn't look good like
it feels like they put like the lightest code of.
Paint you could possibly different, it so LIKE i don't,
KNOW i guess it makes it pretty, authentic but the

(01:06:00):
and also it's so minor of a, Change LIKE i don't,
know maybe that first one is just like not even
on off storefront right. Now maybe it's so old that
you can't even just play it, regularly in which case
it does have a reason to. Exist BUT i feel
like you could have just ported. IT i don't know
if you need like this tiny little touch up on.
It SO i don't, know it's it's kind of a.
Weird it's kind of. WEIRD i guess it JUST i

(01:06:22):
just feel weird about this. One it's strange to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Me, YEAH i think we talked about there it just.
Didn't it, looked it looked odd and. DIDN'T i guess
maybe it's just to sell those people that never got,
it but just. Yeah to, me it's like like you,
said just stop, bored you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Know, Yeah and the next Year september, eighth get ready
For halloween the. Game so you've played like all maybe
not all of, this but you've played a lot Of
friday the, thirteenth we've played a lot Of Texas chainsaw.
Together so when you watch the trailer for this what? Predator?
There you, GO i guess you haven't Played Killer clowns
From Outer space zero if you haven't Played The ghostbusters? One,

(01:06:55):
yeah but, yeah what what? Did what looks interesting or
different about? This or is it just like THE ip
is iconic and the music and therefore you're good to?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Go, OH i think it's it's it's a bit at,
that but it's in the way of, LIKE i COMPLETELY
i understand some people's, criticisms but for, me it does
it looks like it's gonna BE i doubt will be,
identical but it looks very one to one of The jason.
Game AND i had lots of fun of. That we
had lots of fun That there is a fun stream
somewhere on YouTube of us playing it the first day

(01:07:25):
when the surfers were awful and we were we waiting
like forty five minutes in between. Matches but, yeah me
And emily used to go hard on That friday thirteenth
and we would you, know it was pre, kids but
we would just you, know if it's a cold night
in play that just for, hours seeing who could get
a better scape, time who could do it this. Way
SO i have tons of already nostalgia For friday the.
Thirteenth obviously that game kind of got the shit in

(01:07:46):
the deal with all this loss and stuff that got shut.
Down so to me it does Because Prayer hunting. Downs to,
me that was way. More they're all objective based, games
but that had guns and just that just felt like
a different type of. Objective it did not feel and that's,
granted should not feel like A Jason voorhies serial killer, game,
right but whatever game it, was that wasn't for. Me

(01:08:06):
Texas Chaninsaw. Mascer it's funny enough that it does have
Some jason, isn't but it didn't feel like a one
to ONE i, think AND i think a good thing
for that too WAS i think at times the game
was kind of harder to. COMPLETE i did, enjoy like
when we did the. Whole he plays on a team Of,
killers SO i appreciate. That BUT i think all the
l funny games that i'd PLAYED aft that just ever

(01:08:28):
captured that basic magic Of, okay you, know five, players one,
killer they got some, abilities, go you, know start the,
car turn on the. Phone AND i think THE i
think what happened with at Least predator And Texas Chainsaw
masker a little bit WHERE i feel like they almost
overstuffed these games a little. BIT i can't talk to
the other two as, well BUT i think that to,
me this looks like a back to, basics AND i

(01:08:49):
think that, obviously, yeah he got the, music you got the,
Outfits so, YEAH i will be there unless it's just reviewed,
terribly BUT i don't think. SO i really think it's
gonna be a lot of the assets and some hilarities
From jason to, this and, yeah that'll be great BECAUSE
i know we'll do some geek. Response we'll do during
like there's at least at least one maybe two extra
lizes WHERE i remember that used to be a like

(01:09:11):
THREE am Four am game because it's, like, Hey i'm fall,
asleep Do, jason because like at least it's, like, Well
i'll stay it for This I'm i'm. Alert so that's
Where i'm very excited for this. GAME i was very
surprised by the, date but yet it's looking like that
game just. Reskin so if you like, that THEN i
think this is gonna be up your allity if you're
kind of over, it BECAUSE i think this IS i

(01:09:32):
THINK i don't know What illphonic does as far as
their their success and everything like. THAT i just feel
LIKE i wonder if this game doesn't, hit if they
have to kind of stop exactly this, genre BECAUSE i
feel like it's all it's a lot of the similar,
stuff AND i kind of get it because even With,
jason they did have a bunch OF dlc plan stuff
coming that got shut. Down so maybe we lived in
a world Where jason is still going and they're still

(01:09:54):
supporting that, game BECAUSE i would say that was probably
their most successful. Game do you Think i'm wrong in saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
THAT i feel Like predators stick around for a, while
BUT i think you're probably. Right, Yeah SO i.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Don't, know AND i GUESS i just cheer for he,
too BECAUSE i LOVE i was there in the day
where that Game Dating star was A friday thirteenth game
that started as like a game inspired by, that but
it was Like Cabin killer or something like, that and
the company approached them and, said, hey we would really
like to ATTACHED ip AND i, said oh, great and
that screwed them in the. End so, Yeah i'm really
cheering for this. One in this one as long as
it plays to the same quality As friday the, thirteenth

(01:10:29):
that isn't super, buggy it's it's A day one and
that's another twenty twenty six. Games so but, YEAH i
don't think there's anything reinventing the wheel. HERE i think it's, just,
hey we lost, chance AND i think this is the
best as far as the people. Like even when people
talk about A friday, game it's Like freddy game won't
work like. This this is the closest to cancelor like camp,
counselors drug sexy, teenagers you, know and then a, big,

(01:10:52):
killer lumbering guy who moves and as the shape. Shifting
So i'm very.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Excited, well let's take our last ad break of the
show and we'll be right back to discuss the rest
of this state of. Play, okay we are. Back let It.
Die inferno is coming Out december, third and this game
stood out to. ME i thought this looked really. COOL
i loved the art style of, it very, colorful AND

(01:11:16):
i don't, know unique. Interesting the concept here is it
seems like a little Roguelike key but maybe not so.
Much but, essentially when you die and you you respawn
as a new character who has different stats or it
seems like in like an evolution type, way like you,
know improved, stats like based on the things that killed
you last time or something like, that which is you, know,

(01:11:38):
funny just based on like been playing Holld divers, Lately
and when you die in, that it's like you don't,
respawn it's like another guy is dropped in and now
you're playing as like another guy who looks like just
like your. Guy so has that similar kind of idea.
There this game has like A pvpve element to, it
so there's other players in, there WHICH i don't know
HOW i feel about, that because it seemed like a totally,
solid just like single player, game but there's this whole

(01:11:58):
other angle to. It so it's it's a baffling. One
there's so much to it and IT'S i don't, know
it just seems like it's going for something kind of
crazy and. Different so it's definitely on my, List i'm
sure If i'm picking it up at this, point probably.
Not day one's a situation for. Me BUT i thought
it looked really, cool So, mark, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Obvious See. YEAH, alsoe you may scare me for some
of the roadlikes talk with us from that, aspect BUT
i liked when you talk ABOUT i like the, aesthetic
AND i like that idea of just coming back as different,
characters and it stood out as far as the. Colors
it looked almost like a comic book kind of come to.
Life it reminds me not like the same clipping and.
Stuff it's like A Miles, rounds but that where it's

(01:12:36):
just like everything's very bright in your face but textured
and looks. Cool so, Yeah i'll be curious to see
whether just reviews or if you get it in here
about on a side. Quest but, yeah it looked like
at least it stood, out which is hard to do
for games. Nowadays so m.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Hm and another one that did that pretty damn well
is Chronoscript The Endless, end which is a bit of
A google, title but you, know we'll take it coming
out twenty twenty. Six so THE i guess the art
set up of this, one because that's maybe the most
interesting angle of it is that it's almost like a frantic,
writer creator illustrator's office where there's just papers everywhere strolling

(01:13:11):
about the, room just you, know there's someone who had
this crazy idea one night and then like couldn't put
that idea down for months at a time as they're
trying to string together this, story and it's just like
pages thrown, everywhere and you're a character who's kind of
meandering through these, pages and sometimes the pages are, disconnected
so you're like jumping into like almost like A splatoon,
style like you, know a bunch of ink that's spilt
on the, Table you go through the, ink travel up

(01:13:32):
to this new set of, pages and then you're calling
through this. Area you, know TWO d side scrolling action.
Situation so obviously it's got a bit of that like
plucky squareness to, it where it is a TWO d
game in the basic, gameplay but then you jump out
of the pages and there's like a THREE d element
to it where you're traveling. AROUND i don't know if
that's just like to connect the TWO d sequences or
if you actually do jump out as a THREE d
character like In Plucky. Squire BUT i thought this game

(01:13:55):
had a really cool art, Style like the amount of
art in here too also shocked, me just like the
amount of stuft when it zooms out at one, Point it's,
Like god. Damn this game seems expansive but really cool.
Concept LIKE i, said it's like other Games i've, seen
but it kind of stands out in its own. Way
So i'm very intrigued by this. ONE i think it
looks really. Cool so another one that's that's on the
radar for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Myself YEAH i won't BE i won't say everybody, playing
but it's not on the back lovel this. Yet but
the visuals and just were eye catching and to the
point where it's, LIKE i feel like this has to
be a shoe and for a nomination for The Game,
awards you, know like at least a No on because
it JUST i JUST i don't, know it just it
looks because there are as many games like, this but
it captured it looked, like you, know obviously like, art

(01:14:38):
but it did that perfect thing where sometimes try to
games do, that like he trying to go back to that.
ERA i think like The Cosmic invasion. One marvel's doing
that where it's like the perfect amount of it looks
old but then feels completely new and Like. Juveniles so
it was eye catching even like again looking at now
just even some of those boss BUT i was like
that big guy that he cuts in the. Stomach so,

(01:15:00):
yeah maybe Maybe i'll be, wrong but to, me it
just that game stands out big, time just, visually so
it looks very.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
COOL a GAME i know you're very intrigued by is
coming out On march, nineteenth Called Crimson. Desert when you
tell me about this, one is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
It Crimson, DESERT i already. FORGOT i THINK i was
Like crimson for sure the other two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
YEARS i hope my notes are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Correct, no you're probably. Right i'll see IF i can
fight BECAUSE i got the thing up, here but, yeah
it Is crimson To, YEAH i know this. Game it's
one of those THAT i it will for sure be
review based And i'll listen to podcasts because it does
feel like one of those almost too good to be.
True BUT i feel Like i've been here before where
it's like you see games like oh as this and
this and, this and then they come six point five

(01:15:39):
and seven and it doesn't do this and. That BUT
i Think i'm a big fani with tub was before
AND i used to back in the. DAY i kind
of fell out this, series but LIKE i was a
Big Final, fantasy AND i feel like we don't do.
ENOUGH i know a couple of years ago they did.
Somewhere actually that game got canceled right where the guy
like had the headphones and he was fighting. Dragon it's,
LIKE i feel like there's a a fine line between

(01:16:00):
cool and lame of using medieval tech or medieval asthetics
with like updated, tech and that's WHERE i think this
game looks like it could be right on. Line so
there's you, know lots of MINI otl, stuff, spells but
then all of a, sudden he's like An Iron man
tex suit flying and it's, like to, me if you
can find that perfect, balance even movies, wise it really
hasn't been, done you. Know so it's just like there's

(01:16:22):
tons of stuff in here that look. Great you AND
i were both worried about being A mmo, game but
then we looked at it kind of spawned FROM m,
game WHICH i think is like super cool BECAUSE i
think that's, like, hey let's take all the stuff that
worked over, there stuff that people like you and me.
Wear i'm not OPPOSE M, mom but we're just in
certain places of our life where it's like we can't subscribe,
that where it's, like, hey let's create this experience and

(01:16:43):
put it over. Here so it looked like a vast,
world vast. Attacks we're playing as like An aragorn, archetype
so always like a you, know a long a lead
with long black hair and he's brooding a. Lot SO i,
yeah this it's on the, radar but it's not like
A day one yet BECAUSE i need TO i need
to see because it's. IT i have not played them

(01:17:04):
that did review. Well but, yeah it has, trolls there's
lasers in and just some of the Like i'm watching
again some of the landscapes in some of the, areas
it looks like just a big grand adventure like it
just there's at one point You're brian on a Dragon
Like that's WHERE i just feel LIKE i have to
wait and. See CAN i JUST i think there has
to be something that we're missing with this, game or who,

(01:17:26):
knows maybe just super thin and it's like a ten
twelve hour, game which is not a bad, thing BUT
i just, mean, like this looks like it's supposed to.
Be at one point you ran a wolf, Too, like,
YEAH i don't, know it's it's it's the CLOSEST i
THINK i said this to you and we were talking
about in the. Stream it feels like the. CLOSEST i
don't Think i'll have those, elements but the closest that
we've gone to The witcher in a long. Time as
far as that. Aesthetic we've got other games to size The,

(01:17:47):
witcher but been like a big medieval spell, casting you,
know in that type of three person lots of fighting.
SENSE i know some might talk about Like Ellen, room
but that's like A soul's like. GAME i mean specifically
this type of. Genre, Right so, Yeah i'm very. Excited
could be a day, one BUT i will wait until
we get closer to. See so if it's like a
seven out of, ten THEN i Think i'll definitely play,

(01:18:08):
it But i'll be Like i'll wait for a sale
or anything like. That but if we're getting some good,
REVIEWS i WAS i was very hyped on. This, again
we're talking About lord of The, rings Like I've i'm
kind of missing you, Know, witch Your Shadow, war that
kind of aesthetic going on of, like and some of
that's obviously reviewed well as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Too so, yeah, yeah, NO i agree with everything you're saying.
There it's a funny one for me WHERE i can
just picture like the you, know developers like having like
a meeting and being, Like, okay let's check in how's
our game, Doing and then at every meeting someone's, like,
wait what if we added this would be? Cool if
we had this, idea and just at no, point like
no one ever said, No like they just did. Everything

(01:18:43):
but that worries me because like, game that's that's not
how games get. Made you gotta cut, things you gotta say,
no you gotta scope. It and this game just feels
like it's doing, everything and probably too much because of.
That BUT i also think maybe that's because it is
built off the bones Of oh it's supposed to be
a sequel to THEIR mm Block Desert, online and so
it's like they were making This momo squel but then

(01:19:03):
decide to shift it over to a single player, thing
AND i feel like MMOs are kind of, that like
they are kind of everything, games but sometimes they maybe
lack and like the actual action part of it and
focus on THE rpg. Mechanics BUT i feel like this
one because it took that pivot and isn't multiplayer and
doesn't have to worry about like net code and how
it connects with other players and leg and all that.
Stuff like hopefully that means they can kind of get

(01:19:24):
away with their wildest. Dreams So i'm very intrigued by this.
ONE i remember seeing it before and seeing it again as, like,
wow this game could be something pretty crazy and. Special but,
yeah so it's another one that's on the radar for,
sure and like like you just got to wait and
hear some actual thoughts on it when some people have played,
it because it looks too good to be true to some.
Extent and then we got a couple pieces of. Tech

(01:19:46):
so as you mentioned the, speakers you, know it's, Fine
it's Like. SONY i think sometimes it's easy to forget, that,
like oh, yeah they do make a lot of tech,
stuff and so it's, like, yeah, sure, speakers why not
throw those in the. Mix the weird one to me
was The god Of war control that they showed off
here because this lines up WITH i think the twentieth
anniversary Of god Of war or. Something to, me this
just reeked of like the TWO d game wasn't, ready

(01:20:10):
because to, me this seems like you show off the
TWO d game and you, say you, know for celebrating
twenty years Of god Of, war we're doing something. New
we're doing a TWO d. Game it's not what you,
expect but it's something, different and you can play it
with this brand new. Controller we Love god Of, war
we know you Love god Of. War let's play Some
god Of. War and then it just, like, well the
game's not ready, yet but the controller's, ready and it's

(01:20:31):
we gotta do something for the twenty eighth year. Anniversary
SO i guess get the controller out, there and then,
ah we'll. Cofort we'll bury that by Putting wolverine directly after,
this and you kind of forget about. It so really
weird to. Me BUT, i you, know this TWO D
god Of war, THING i THINK i think it is
real at this, point AND i think maybe it's a
case of this game probably ended up being bigger than
they wanted it to, be and so that's why it's
getting kicked to presumably hopefully next, year because it's been

(01:20:55):
leaked and rumored like for a few months, now for
a long. Time, yeah so hopefully it does come out
Next i'm very curious to see what that game does look.
Like but now it seems, like, yeah you'll be able
to have your controller ready to go before the game
even comes. Out but, anyway not much to say on.
THAT i just kind of wanted to ruminate on the
thought THAT i feel like This god Of war thing
probably was supposed to be out by now or soon

(01:21:16):
and just not quite there, yet but hopefully next. YEAR
i guess that could because the, SHOW i forget it
is a show or a movie That god Of war
is getting show On. Amazon, okay SO i wonder if
there's some you, know unison there in terms of release
dates of game and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Show but right, now because the, rumors the actual voice
actors in the running to get the like it's not his,
job BUT i guess they're considering, him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
So, judge that'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Cool, yeah that'd be. Fun he's a big guy, Too
he's he's got the, voice, like you're good to go
as long as he can act and want to be.
THERE i think you're good to, go you, know make
all you'd get have like an automatic in with the, Fans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
So, yeah for, Sure uh. Okay and then the last
Well veren is LASTING i had in my? Notes DID
i skip anything that you wanted to talk? ABOUT i
THINK i went over.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
That, YEAH i looked over it again and then there's nothing.
There they did a big like tease on Cranch risma
that was, annoying like one of our, updated one of
our biggest franchises.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Ever they just wanted to flex that it's their best
selling franchise and his one hundred million copies, sold which
was surprising to me, That, LIKE i GUESS i never
sat it, down thought about. It what is PlayStation's best
selling franchise and, oh it turns out It's Grant reasona
by like a solid. Margin BUT i guess it makes
sense if they've had, them because this is the. Lean
people do love those. Games and it gone the movie
of course, Anyway Marvel's. Wolverine so we talked about the

(01:22:37):
on the live. Stream then we after the live stream was,
over we talked about for another fifteen. Minutes so we've
already talked about this a, lot but let's go through
some other details with. It of, course the actor is
known Now liam. McIntyre neither you or me really know
him from, anything but you, know he's got a good
street credit out, there so it seems like a good Pick.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Australian, Yeah so we were debating about. That that pipeline the, Stream, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
That's a, real real pipeline at this. Point so in
terms of, locations we got three locations shown off, here
first being of course The Great Squamish, canada or as
they describe, it just the forested wilderness Of. Canada but
in the trailer you actually you do see a road
sign For. Squamish so that's and it's funny about. That
SO i was googling that just to see if, there's,
LIKE i don't, know some comic run that's like a

(01:23:21):
specific storyline that relates to him being In squamish or
like in that area Of, canada AND i couldn't really find.
It but WHAT i did find is that like The
city Of squamish posted like an article of, like, hey
this new game that's coming out, has LIKE i, said
In squamish or. Whatever SO i thought that was very cute
and like the city Of vancouver also had, one SO
i just thought that that was pretty. Cute and then
there's Also, Tokyo, japan which they've described as more like

(01:23:44):
close quarters sort of, area very narrow, streets and Then
madrapors that seems to be the location of where the bar,
Is So i'm guessing that that's kind of like where
the game starts maybe and then you'd go To canada later,
potentially but like maybe you start in the bar sequence
that kicks off some. STUFF i could be totally wrong about,
this just like maybe it seems like if this is
some of the footage we're getting and see more gameplayoff

(01:24:05):
that maybe that's would be like some of the earlier
stuff in the. Game so you would.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Start In, canada it might like story, wise but maybe.
Not maybe something takes you back, there because it means
it's either you start In canada and In. Canada in my,
OPINION i don't think IT'S i don't know why it'd
be the middle. Chapter if that feels, ODD i feel
Like wolverin's hanging out in home country or he's going
to go back to his home. Country you, know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
YEAH i mean it. Is it is a bit, odd
but anywa those are those are the three? Locations we
have a madropoor, like, yeah, uh really great, visuals like
that's my favorite visually OBVIOUSLY i love Those canadian forests of,
course but we actually we got to see a lot
more Of Magic, report so it's easier to find that.
Connection but it also seems like story, wise there's just
been a lot of narrow like a lot of different
combo runs and stuff that kind of Connect wolvern with that,

(01:24:47):
location that specific bar THAT i forget the name, of
but is a known location that kind of. Thing but
obviously we don't really know at this point in. Time
are these mini open worlds that you can do best exploration?
In are they kind of linear sequences where you're going?
Through and then maybe there's like slightly small like bigger
areas we're you canna explore a little bit. More BUT

(01:25:07):
i don't know what do you think about? That and
then do you think that we're gonna get many more
locations than this or is it like three like somewhat
expansive areas that we're gonna get and we already kind
of know what they.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
ARE i would love it if they just said. Three
but the fourth one was THE X, mansion even if
it's just one level, there even if this is like
a training dangeroum like and there's, anything that's where the
game could, start, right is that you're on The xavier.
Ground SO i could see that and like you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Go around the School, Explorer i'll jump in there real
quick and say. That they did kind of in the
PlayStation blog described this as, like Oftentimes wolverine he's on his,
own and this is one of those. Times So i'm
guessing we're not going to get MUCH X mansion, stuff
BIG x. Macrossover maybe you'll see a couple characters because
one of the things they, SAID i don't THINK i
have the quote, here but they're, like the time you'll

(01:25:51):
fight a bunch of, people such as we've shown Off
Omego red And, mystique sometimes people will team up With.
Wolverine so they did hint at that as well that
at some point there's gonna be and whether it's just
like a cop in the, streets who, like is you,
know shooting At mesty for, YOU i don't, know but,
ANYWAY i cut you off a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
There but, no that's. OKAY i would love it to
be a signace because the only reason WHY i think
there's a chance of, it and who. Knows tons of
stuff has. Changed we even talk about like The venom
game was supposed to come up before this it's. Not
BUT i don't know if you remember back in the
day when that league, happened they the leak the game
After wolverine was AN X men, game, right that was
on their whole dog and so it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Wasn't like a multiplayer yes. Scenario, Yeah so.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
That's WHY i still think there could be something, now don't.
WRONG i think even if it's not a, level it's
at least a cut, scene whether it's the beginning or
end or. Somewhere at some point he will, be you,
know at at THE X. Mansion but if it's just those,
three that's. FINE i think the WAY i described it
is and you, know if they'd be that, big BUT
i would love it to be like the Way Indiana jones,

(01:26:50):
was where those were three different little open world areas
and they had all the things you could, explore so
together they weren't, massive but by theirselves.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
They were you, know they had like interstitial sequences of different,
areas but those are way more linear and just like
you spend half an hour or an hour in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Spot, yeah SO i screwed. AWAY i, say Aymore separately
they're not, massive but together it, is you, know not,
massive but like feel like a open world.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
And there's side quests there and there's things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
To, do AND i think that's why we'll see what.
HAPPENS i don't think they're gonna take it out of.
There but that's one thing that you, know lots of complaints,
about you, know the next Spier. Man that'd be, like,
Oh i'd really like to get In New, york and it's,
LIKE i don't know if that's gonna. HAPPEN i Think
New york is so tied to that. Character BUT i
do get that point of, like, oh like what how
many more buildings can you? Add? Right SO i think
it's a good way to three different locations obviously one
important two Where logan's Born japan always important, storyline And

(01:27:40):
Magic poor is like that's popped up in THE. Mcu
it's a very popular comic book place In, marvel but
specific x. Men SO i like all the, locations but,
yeah that's What i'm envisioning Is Indiana jones type of it's.
One it's three locations with some you, know things you can't,
explore BUT i still think they'll be mostly you, know
like narrative, Driven LIKE i think you have stuff expire,

(01:28:02):
man where there'll be a sie quest here there they'll be,
aka you, know help this woman's getting, robbed maybe help
rout or just like bad thugs on the. Street but mm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Hmm. Yeah so another thing that's on the BLOG i
forget if they actually mentioned it on the stream, itself
was that the the primary enemy faction That wolverine's up
agains in this game are called The. Reavers and so
the primary, members just according To, wikipedia of The reavers
ARE i Called Donald, pierce The Great lady Death, strike

(01:28:32):
a guy named Pretty, boy our favorite Bone breaker Ll,
skullbuster and then there's like some other ones in the mix,
there but Bone breaker of. Course you, know if you
go to OUR X men animated, retrospective you can hear
our praise for Bone, breaker who would be a fun
ass boss fight in this. Game lady Death strike obviously
that's a huge connection point For. Wolvering it makes sense
as being a character in here could even be this

(01:28:54):
yeah you, know, yeah there you. Go and then and
then The Donald pierce one is is ONE i thought
was quite interesting because he's like a cyborg type, character
and a lot of the people That wolverine's ripping up
in this trailer are like cyborg type people like that
he's ripping them, up and it's clearly like they're semi
synthetic to some, Extent so it feels like there's maybe
some connection point. There and then further than, THAT i

(01:29:17):
was looking into, it and apparently like The reavers operated
In madripor like from The, wikipedia Like Donald pierce was
kind of set up there and things like, That so
it seems like there that could be a potential connection
point between what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Here, YEAH i, KNOW i saw the two pass on the.
STREAM i took the wrong, one BUT i did say
because all the THINGS i, Said, oh it's gonna be someone,
TECHIE i was going the ball Over. Tresca is that
ending with The sentinels and that, All it's going to
be more of. That but this makes. Sense shut up
to one of our, Listeners Chris, evans because he was
watching us and he messaged after it's, like, OH i
think It's, reavers and he hit the nail on the

(01:29:52):
Head and that was before like all the stuff would
come out BECAUSE i was, like, OH i didn't even
think about The reavers because that was Another but LIKE i,
said it was gonna be someone tech based because there's
too many just cyborg enemies and this had to be
makes sense. Too they're still going for AN m, rating
BUT i think it's probably also easier to animate some
machines winning all the body parts all the, time and
uh and then show out to Cocktail clay Because Donald Pierce,

(01:30:12):
dylan you've seen that character and reviewed a movie with that.
Character that's Who Boyd holberg played And logan when he
had the robotic. Arm, yeah, yeah so he has some
live action history, there so uh. YEAH i think that's
a perfect set of characters that go make a Red
it's tons of. Fun you're right Where Lady destro could
literally be Or Lady destro could literally be the main.

(01:30:33):
Villain you, know Even Donald pierce could be the the main.
Villain hell make a Bone, breker which was great hype
moment talk about extra life when we got to play
The punisher game and bro Home breaker. Appeared so you
know he's due for a video. Game, reducts you know
he's due to be, back so uh, yeah, NO i
think this is a perfect, setup AND i think this
is like a lot of characters that to, me if
they were To i'm gonna Imagine wolverine's a big. Hit

(01:30:55):
and let's say they planned doing THE X men. Game
i'm not saying these characters would not fight the X,
men but this feels like a lot of, good more
side characters for A wolverine to take, on other than
maybe o' mag A. Red to, me when we do X,
men that's you're gonna enter your mister Sinister apocalypse may.
Needle so to, me The reavers and all these characters
are perfect foils For wolverine in a single player. Game

(01:31:17):
so it's. Funny it's STILL i still think you'll be,
there BUT i think he's the one they're holding. Back
But i'm still waiting for That sabertooth drop or If
sabertooth is like A venom sequel hold, back if that's
like a we're gonna pull off on him, right BECAUSE
i just he's they have a lot of history that
is a big. CHARACTER i feel like If sabertooth is
in a game With, wolverine it's almost hard not to
picture him as like the either the main bad guy

(01:31:39):
or working With maine bats.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
And bumping around In squamish's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Sasquatchy, yeah so Betther than's a question of like is
that a setup or is he like a boss? Bow
BUT i was was Wasn't sasquatch was With. SABERTOOTH i
feel like there could be some illusions off Some michtiqu's in,
there so we'll. See but, YEAH i LOVE i love
all those, characters the potential, enemies so mm.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Hmm. Yeah and then one THING i want to ask
you about is obviously In Spider man in the, game
the first one you have like The MILES mj sequences
And Spider man two you obviously have two characters and
Then venoms in there for a. Sequence do you think
there is a other playable character in this game for
like some small, sequence whether that is like a hero
like The venom sequence And Spider man two to spoil,
THAT i, guess or if it's or if it's like

(01:32:23):
a human like a moiratro or Whatever moiro whatever her
name is, from or someone like this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Trailer that's who my mind jumps to because she's sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
A little stealth sequence back and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Forth yet to, me the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
People that could be kind of fun, actually like do
some like Hit, man like you, know disguise, switching that
could be that could be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Fun i'll take. That in THE X men, GAME i
want to play As, WOLVERINE i don't want to Play
i'll give them The venom sequence Inspider man is a
ten to ten perfect some of the funnest field game. Stuff,
ever if they want to do that where you're playing
As Omega, red you're playing as as what you're playing Saber, tooth,
great BUT I i would. NOT i would not want
them to carry over the stealth missions or the mile

(01:33:04):
like the miles of morales Like where's My? Mom, LIKE
i don't really want any of that With. Wolverine AND
i also think they shouldn't do that to kind of
do something. Else hopefully it's SOMETHING i, like but do
something to differentiate BECAUSE i just. DON'T i think with
the three locations and stuff like, that if you did another,
one it's more comparison. EXPERIMENT i wish they would find
a new, way something else that's specific To WOLVERINE X,

(01:33:24):
men you, know mm.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Hmmm, YEAH i think that's a good. Point, UH i don't,
know is there anything else? HERE i feel like like
we've already discussed this a, bit but, uh, YEAH i don't.
KNOW i feel like we. Didn't you, know we don't
get much details here on like what THE rpg systems
are gonna, Be like we obviously don't know how much
it's gonna. Suck we don't know how open world it,

(01:33:47):
is like there's still so many. Questions it's more just
this gave us a little bit more to chew on
and give us a bit more setting and character. Stuff but,
yeah anything else that uh is picking your interest by
this one right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Now, no the only THING i brought up the stream,
again OR i brought the, streams so bring up here.
AGAIN i really want to know they talk about their
bleeding mechanics or their bleeding. TECH i do want to
know about the healing, stuff if it's just cut scene
based or if it is excuse, me in the actual,
game because to, me it's like in two thousand and,
nine if you could pull it off on The xbox
three sixty of literally Getting wolvering down to an animating,

(01:34:18):
skeleton how can you not figure out? Here So i'd
really like that, confirmed even just like in, general i'd
like to know how the healing, factor, like is it
something where you heal over time in a mission or
is it just video game where get the Hell forbes
and that gets slogan. Up, NO i think that's pretty much.
It LIKE i trust them LIKE i and Even Spider

(01:34:39):
man two to me is still like people dog on that.
GAME i, think to, me that's just a expectations versus reality.
THING i want More Spider. Man it was good they
didn't nail the story LIKE i was hoping to kind
of evolve. That BUT i still think like Both spider
are all Three Spider man And Miles Rouse Spider man,
Two i've enjoyed two varying. DEGREES i think they're gonna
hit the nail of the, park hit the ball in

(01:35:00):
the park with this, one hit the nail on the.
Head so, yeah the only question ask, you do you
think we see it At Game awards?

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Again, well, no because they said we'll tell you more
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
SPRING i THINK i. Know BUT i think because if
this game hits when they want, IT i feel like
If i'm saying just like another thirty second, teaser even
if there's just a character, reveal because they feel you're
not gonna Get Game awards next, year And Game awards
is the most game watched thing of the year by, far,
right like that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Is the place so summer Game LIKE i just feel
like they do wait for summer game.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
FESTS i think that's at The Game Gameplay, Slice like that's,
like we're gonna show you ten Minutes. Wolverine like my
prediction is you're gonna see even if it's twenty to
thirty seconds something At Game, awards because that just feels
feels odd not to show anything At game War it's,
LIKE i guess we live in a digital, age so maybe.
Not but even, then it's it's. Weird and that's the other.

(01:35:57):
THING i will, say it's weird to get this trailer
and they're, saying, hey it's coming out twenty twenty Six,
september and then saying. Spring why do we need to
showcase in? Spring this game's not coming out for a
bunch of, months right in, that like when you get
so my thing IS i think they just want to pump.
IT i think they want to do keep, this like
get you hyped so you don't forget about it in
the GTAs and. Stuff The Lego batman's all the bigger.

(01:36:19):
Games that's the idea is revealed. Here even to, me
if it's just thirty seconds of just showing one quick
thing of another, villain or even just a variations, TRAILER
i think it's gonna be, there because that's why to,
me that showcase In, spring to me Shows, oh they
just want to pimp this thing out as much as
they can because they don't need to showcase In. Spring
that games like nine months away at that. Point why
are they showing us In? Spring more like that's like

(01:36:40):
An August july, showcase not a you, know i'd, SAY.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
I mean margin spring could mean Like may twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Eight it. Could it Could we'll, See.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
But i'm not gonna piece about. You BUT i DON'T
i don't think that's what's going on. HERE i think if,
anything Maybe god, maybe if, anything maybe they pulled The
god Of war TWO d game because they wanted some
sauce to put at the game wards or something.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
MAYBE i don't this might be too far. THINKING i
don't you know if they can even plan this. Stuff
but Like Christopher, judge the voice Of, credos has become
a Big Game awards presence. Guy he's up. There he
presents the award for uh, uh you, know best voice,
performance and maybe right before that or right after, that
he you, know says and check out this trailer and
then it's like The god of or. Trailer maybe do

(01:37:27):
something like. THAT i feel like that's maybe the. PlayStation
i don't. Know i'm trying to think if the PlayStation
has something, else like If gorilla is probably not ready
for an ANNOUNCE i don't know who else would be ready
to go with a huge, announcement but maybe if they want,
SOMETHING i think It's god Of. War but, YEAH i
trust them on The Spring spring for A wolverine.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Thing, yeah oh, yeah, NO i trust. SO i think that's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Happening so one THING i should have ask you earlier
with the playable character, thing since they already have the
Tech Spider man for one mission pops in.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
There, NO i don't think, so not, yet not. Yet
they Gotta i'll, Go i'll.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Go seven, chance maybe he pops.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
In there and appear as a playable, mission.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Like one, mission you play A Spider.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Man they got That wolverine run on his own, First
they're gonna, wait think, OKAY i think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
So you just don't think that would be like a
huge pop moment for people, like oh my, God.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
No it would be massive AND i would love, It
BUT I i don't think they're gonna go down that road.
YET i think they're all gonna just focus On venom for.
Now fair, enough.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Fair, Enough, okay anything else On wolverine or the state of.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Play, No i'm. Excited I'm i'm excited it's out. There
hopefully they keep that. DATE i think they. Will saw
me xx pretty good for their their time, frame so,
Yeah i'm very excited for that game in that, review
and there should be a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Mm hm yeah me as. Well definitely picking that one.
UP i KNOW i backed out Of Spider man too last,
minute But WOLVERINE i will be there for. Sure so,
yes we will stay tuned for that and for the game.
Wards we'll see if we see more. There uh To travis',
prediction and, yeah thank you everyone for. Listening we'll be
back next. Week have a good. One bye bye mhm

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