WWE Wrestlepalooza & AEW All Out 2025 Reviews : The Gimmick

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick,
your bi weekly wrestling show here on GI First Podcast.
I am the Canadian Nightmare trest now and I'm joined
by the man who's watched eight hours of wrestling, David.
How's it going today, sir?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm tired man.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yesterday with a lot of wrestling, and I did not
realize how long I had been in this exact chair
until it was over with.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And that chair too.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, that's not even counting the rest of the week.
It was all spent in this chair, which now has
reminded me I need a new chair.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
There you go, So everybody give David some recommendations on
chairs he wants. And then the one who don't sleep
as Bob. So what is that reference?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was a quote that Stephanie Care said after she
won the championship. She said, you know, some people call
us dreamers, but we're the ones who don't sleep.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I see. Yeah, all a good day for you. But
both you had Ian there who like it was your
like main roster stand for bid. And then Stephanie so
and we'll talk about it. We got a whole clear
oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a nice
clean win Sey. We're gonn talk about We're gonna talk
about w Russell Palooza, We're gonna talk about aw all

(01:17):
out and then anything else that usually comes up in
the gimmick and stuff. And no, we can make many
I guess predictions for the w W Perth show coming up,
but we'll probably yeah, we probably No, it's Darby Maxley
in a chain saw, a gee match or whatever they're
gonna do. You know, as much as it wouldn't be

(01:37):
good for their body, I'd be down if they announced
because they ain't. No, have done this really in a while, like.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
A real exploding barbed wire death.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
No no, no, no no, no, let's not go there,
and that didn't go. No. I want like give them
a best of five. But each match is a different stipulation,
that's like different hardcore whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And so when Jericho did that, right, who was it
chasing the title? They had to go against different people
because that's when we got well, yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Was oh god, who did for Oh? It was to
get down GF because that's mgff's gimmick, remember, and he
did that body where you gotta do the belts. But no,
I'm saying like a best of five like Booker t
ben Wah series where but each match is like inferno.
I feel like they're going to do something inferno with
the fire last night I was thinking.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
They should do like I don't know, but like to
continue on with like sort of similar to the Coffin match,
Like do like an actual like buried Alive match, like
with the whole dirt mountain, like on the side of
the stage and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The old school with three stages.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
You it'd be like a Mount Everest match we talked
about week remember last time.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
A mountain with Like it'd be like Buried Alive, but
like with.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Rocks, spend the money, get a helicopter, fly the top
Mount Everest and film like a cinematic match. Could you
imagine that that would be something he'd get Imax cameras
and like it's a cinematic match. Darby versus John Moxley.
You gotta throw the other person off the cliff and
then imagine that image where you pretend to throw them

(03:12):
and that's such a great write off. And then when
Moxley comes back, like I survived falling off my amount
evers you didn't kill me, you know, like I that's
what I like. But yeah, because they did that underd
with Andrade and Carmelo, but that was like a fake
best of five, like they just randomly started, like look
at the series like we haven't got I think the
last time I could be wrong, but in mainstream, not

(03:33):
in New Japan and mainstream, I feel like it's when
Seamus and Cizarro did the They did a legit best
of five and then they became the Bar. But I
don't know. The last time we had a best of
five on TV, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Seamus and Cizarro was a best of seven. They did
bad and then yet for all that those they ended
up then tagging together and then they became It was
one of those like you can't beat me, we'll find
and then they got put together and then that turned
into the Bar.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
And yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
What I would want them to do with Darby Allen
and John Boxley is go back, get the w CW
the three tier cage, have each tier something different, and
then the end of it is Darby Allen rig the
whole thing that Darby Allen gets put through the top
all of mankind, but falls all the way through and
then somehow somehow they have it to where he even

(04:24):
falls through the ring at the bottom and we just
don't see Darby ally for six months, like he fell
into the void somewhere.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
That's what happens to a DDP and ready to.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Know. I want him to even go through the ring
like it just.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Like mankinds just gone, just gone.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
What was the match did w CW Where to win
the match you had to put someone in the electric
chair and turn it on. I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's like it's the one with Abdullah the Butcher.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, And that's what I want them to do, is
you gotta throw them through all the cages, get him
out of the ring and then someone in the chair
and from frying.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Is a Chamber of horse match. Chamber of horse Match
from Halloween Havoc ninety one, and it was supposed to
be Macho Man who refused to do the spot, so
it ended up being at dull of the Butcher getting electrocuted.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, he was correct to not do that, you know.
Later on was like that was a mistake, but uh yeah,
there we go. That's our pitch. But we'll get there eventually.
But yeah, so Wie Wressell Paloo's s Bubs, do you
have any of the draft points right now? You still
come from those? Okay, so by the end of the show,
we'll get you an update. But David, overall, what do

(05:40):
you think about rescllaluz? Also, this was the start of ESPN.
I feel like every third tweet on my timeline was
how does this work? I don't understand, Like I feel
like it's I don't know. I was to get the
VPN or because I got Netflix over here. But how
did you feel about the show?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Overall?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Obviously big show for ESPN. They got Lesner's back age,
Lee's first match, he had Cody and.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So I am a huge college football fan and my
morning is normally spent watching College Game Day, who surprisingly
had an entire section of their picks for reciplues. I
think that this does bring it to the mainstream. Like
that opening video that they did was amazing. The where
we met now Triple Ah just saying welcome to our

(06:24):
final form, and all I can think of is Freezer
turning golden at that moment, Like those aspects of it
were pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Where again, what does that mean? I've always said, what
does that mean? A couple of years from now, ESPN
doesn't like bring them back, so it's like, are they yeah,
what form is this, you know?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Or some new streaming service wants to pop them over
there or whatnot. Yet it could all change, but I
felt like it that part was cool. Some of the
presentations were pretty cool. But as a show as a whole,
other than the nostalgia of certain matches, I feel like
it very much fell short for this being the big

(07:05):
introduction into mainstream.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I could agree with that. I think that what
was surprised to me, so like I enjoyed the show overall.
I think there's two kinda I got a head scratcher,
and then there's two kind of matches. One just Doc
Gray and then one could have just been a little
bit above a TV made event. But that's fine. I
just felt like they went harder overall, because I know

(07:30):
people really just not everybody, but a lot of people
really disliked the raw Netflix premiere because it was like
very mainstream and all celebrities. But I felt like they
went That's what I was expecting with this, I know
it obviously the big meme was if Rock was gonna
show it, but I was expecting more legends, more there's
a couple of celebrities. But I was just kind of
surprised it didn't feel it felt like another pay per view.

(07:52):
It didn't feel like the first pay per view on ESPN.
Even though overall I liked the show, I just was
surprised they didn't go that hard. Now, I guess granted
you'd say that, you know, Netflix is technically i'd say
more important because they're on there weekly, and then with
the foreign people like myself, it's all the pls are there, right,
So technically I think if you were to ask them,
the Netflix deals probably bigger and probably could reach more

(08:14):
audiences because at the same time Netflix, there's tons of
people that are subscribed for TV shows, reality shows, movies
and we'll just see w right where ESPN there's tons of people.
You got to go out of your Like I don't
have to because I'm not there, but like if you're
in America and you don't watch anything on there, you
have to go out of your way to subscribe to it.
So maybe that's why it's not. I just still thought
there's gonna be something. Obviously they loaded the show with

(08:37):
AJ and Brock, but I just thought there'd be one
more thing of oh man, I should have tuned in
like when Rock was there or whether it be a
big turn or something like that. Like I thought there's
gonna be a moment where hey you and that's where
I think we all kind of thought with Cody and
Drew going last something was gonna happen there, but nothing
really came of it, So I'm I'm quite surprised by
that aspect. But overall, I enjoyed the show. I thought

(08:58):
it was a good one. I thought it was like
a very solid beats you. I think it got like
a a like the show over I'll be like a
three point seventy five for me. I think there's a
couple of matches that I really enjoyed for entertainment wise,
and then the middle match, which we'll talk about, was fantastic.
But I suppose what do you think but wrestle pouloues
uh yeah, yeah, I gotta say I gotta rock my
boy or so yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Overall, I thought i'd agree it was like I.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Don't know, Yeah, they definitely like sort of hyped it
up to be It's weird because they hyped it up
to be bigger, But at the same time, I don't
really think they hyped it up to be bigger.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
It's weird, like.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
In terms of I guess what they put on it,
i'd say overall, yeah, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
I'd have to see.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I don't think it'd be like super high compared to
like a lot of other pls this year, but I
still give it like a passing grade. I think probably, yeah,
Like i'd have to see what else I gave, like
a three point five if if else, I might be
like a little lower than that, but probably around there.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, I think at three point five is across the
board a fair assessment for this three point five.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Three point five is fair.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think on my list of just like ranking, I
think I had this on about the same as like
as like A King and Queen of the Ring, where
there was like a few were definitely at least like
one match I like really really enjoyed, and then a
few that were like pretty fun and stuff, and then
ones that I was just like, it's okay, I guess.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's yeah, I gotta do that next year. I won't
start now, but like on Ladder Box with the movies,
I'm gonna start. Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah,
I have to do that next year, so that's fair enough.
So all right, let's let's get this out of the way.
Brock Lesnar defeated John Cena. Man, I agree with everybody.
We have five days left with John Cena. I shared

(10:51):
in the discord that clip of John c well, we'd
really have to scroop that last page, scroop everything. Do
I think it's screws up his career?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But man, this is just like I knew this was
gonna suck, but still just like it sucked even more.
I didn't watch it live because aw, maybe it was
still going on by watching after the fact, and yeah,
I don't know. It's it's exactly what I feared. It's
like the suplex City thing, which I said.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
This before, people do it like.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
And he said, like too, So okay, here we go.
But clearly Brock when to get out there. It's like
I said before, without all the personal stuff. I was
over the Brock Lizener match years ago and like other
than to me, like I guess. And even then it's
like people might say, oh him versus Gun, through him
versus Braun, like my worries is just gonna be this stuff, right,
It's just like I don't know how exciting they're gonna be,
but yeah, I thought Brock would get the win he

(11:42):
did because Scena's on the way out, Brock swinging it
just man, what what a waste? Like, especially if we
don't get like a John Cena versus bron Breaker. I
would much rather have bron Breaker squash and for eight minutes,
like give it to someone like that, because Brock, Like,
I don't know, but I very much worry. I was
surprised on SmackDown and I'm at the reclution Hayman came out.

(12:03):
I am very very worried that we could get I
think Brock versus said the WRESTLEMANI is like a very
legit possibility. I think they're gonna go with him and
Gunther actually this time, but I could.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
See whether it be with Brock.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah yeah, Like but again, if there's an injury something
like that, Like I think, no matter what, in the
next calendar year, you'll get Seth versus Brock, and they're
gonna play up some of that drama there because I'm
surprised they put Paul.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
They do that at the like the Royal Rumble.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
The Greatest, Like yeah, that's that's a good option.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, like a you know, eight minutes eight minutes match.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, and you could do and you could do something like.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
He enters the rumble and gets like eliminated by goother
after the match or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Or he wins it just like that.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
They did.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
They did that one year where he lost the title.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Mar even for the rumble, even for the rubble of
Brock gets up quickly because a few years ago he
went in there for like three minutes and last like
through him out.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, so either way, I'm just saying like that, that's
I think an option, but they will play up and
I have no interest in that either right now. So yeah,
this was this was not good. Like I I can't
even give this a star rating like I.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Would get like a like a half star.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
No, I think you can go as low as point
to fun.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And I give it back. Yeah, because it's a bar minute.
It's literally just like refried food. Like we saw this
years ago. It just feels so lazy and it just
sucks for seeing it because it's just like I don't know,
I don't think he cares he's getting the money.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Five dates would be Crown Jewel UH Survivor Series, the
final Raw.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
In Madison Square Garden, Raw in Boston, and then Saturday
Nights to Me event.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah. So which again, I we've talked about a little tongue,
but I just hate that it's it's.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
All wrestles at those raws.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, I hope so highlight this.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Last SmackDown with Sammy so I think maybe he like fights,
and you know, I think didn't they do once like
seth Versus scene at Madison Square.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Garden before, I think they did.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think they did that once, so you could do that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
So the only highlight relate to this match. Yeah, it
was very much.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Cut and paste of their old SummerSlam the superlex City
match with you know, slight differences, but outside that, the
only real saving graces was what it means for Sina
going forward. I think this was their attempt to anyone
who was still kind of on the fence about him

(14:35):
being back to babyface after the attempted He'll run.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
No, No, who was who was on the fence side.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
This the shot of the kids crying in the audience
and even Tyrese Halliburton sitting there with the shock the
wrestle made thirty shocked brock lesnar taker face like, you know,
like all of these moments, that was the fine. Know,
all right, this this is our our golden boy that

(15:03):
we are sending off. We want to give him all
the sympathy going into the end of his career, give
him all the cheers. I knew when Sina came out
and he was surrounded by those thirty kids, I was like, Oh,
he's about.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
To get his ass.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Well he always.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm like, he's about he's about to just catch it
and so and and that's what it was. I mean,
I would probably give this like a C C minus
at best for like a match like it. It didn't
shake foundation. I get that you wanted to get eyes

(15:44):
on the beginning of this, but also if that was
your in case to counterprogram the end of a w
maybe make this match go a little bit longer because
I still had time, even though I was watching on
dual monitors, I still had time to fully enjoy the
rest of the main event of AW.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Brocks like, I'm not going ten that's the no double digits,
no double digits this run, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
we'll see what happens. I imagine Brock will be gone
for a while. That's yeah, good pitch that Seth at
Saudie and then him there and then yeah with Sina,
who knows. I guess I think he'll just be the
surprise partner at war Games. I think it's gonna be
one of these things where we'll have a team and

(16:24):
may love a partner and someone's get taken out or
someone's like I don't want to mess with the the
Seth riders because like they're gonna like injure me. So
I think he'll just they could eat Like. I think
it could literally be multipleys where they announced seen it before,
they announce him at some Survivor series they don't it's
a mystery man. But I think they will announce before,
uh so they can get him on the poster and

(16:46):
then I guess, uh he's at Is he at the
Perth Australia show.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, he's like he's been like super advertised for it.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
He's gonna be show of this show and he's like, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, because now we got that answer now like it's
at the I guess we'll just talk about the main
event now because it's tying into this conversation because we
for months have been booking like what they do and
with seeing what they do with Cody and Seth, and
I swear at one point maybe they didn't outright say it,
but I thought least it was rumored that, oh, they're
not doing the Crown Jeal Championship, and then last night
it's like, oh, that's happening. So that through that's what
I also hate it because the second I said that,

(17:22):
I knew Cody was winning, because like, I just didn't
think they were running Drew and Seth because they've done
that a lot. And I just didn't see Tiffany and
if it is Tiffany and Sephanie didn't see them getting
the main, and I don't see Drew and Seth getting
the main. So I wish they'd announced, like on the
post show they did the staredown, so just right there,
it would have been a little bit more divisive. But
that match, don't get me wrong, I think that's gonna

(17:43):
be really good with their characters where they are. I think,
as we've all booked it, that Cody's gonna lose because
he's gonna get destroyed by Drew and Brawn and Bronson
and maybe Paul who knows, but who knows the whole
thing it takes.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
But if Brock's not showed enough, if he's not getting paid.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
To wrestle, no SummerSlam though, right, yeah, but he's like
that was like a bit like at least he's like
be the main event.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's like I bet, I bet you could convince Brock
to do for the right amount of money to walk
in F five seth and leave. You know, like, yeah,
he could be.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Still gets his million dollar pay day if all he
does is have to do in F five.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh, Brocks all over that.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So now that because I think a lot of us
it's still could happen, like you said, s Bubbs. But
at least at Perth it's not him and Rollins what
you talked about.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
They're gonna do for Sina at Perth, Like I really don't.
I guess because he's not gonna be on any of
the build it's gonna be like the Big Bill Eddie Kingston.
It's gonna be that. It's gonna be something just like
I want Sina. So I imagine because he'll be in the match.
Later on with the interferencer, we said I am hoping
it is Braun, but again that kind of sucks because

(19:04):
we kind of just got that match that was.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Like from Australia.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Don't I like Bronze And I just if I can
only book Seena's last five matches, Bronson Reed is not
not on that list, you know, Like that's the thing.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say it's breaker in my opinion,
and that also gets seen into war games as well.
That's that's my opinion, going to say it's break.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
You can have a like, oh you're gonna have like
seen a run out in the health codey or something.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, and that's where that's where I think what happened.
He will and that's when Drew comes in, because that's
my prediction on Discord of why Drew's injured. It is
because on Smacked, and I bet they're gonna say Drew's
like gown for an indiffinite amount of time and then
oh my god, Drew's here and he hits the clay more.
And I also think that's good drama because Seth and
Drew had lots of history, right, so they do that
stare down and maybe.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Feel like it was like the original like scrapped plan
for Cessfaction.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Yeah, supposed to be him, Drew and Kevin Owens.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh my god, that would have been That would have
been great. So yeah, yeah, but what do you who
do you guys think for Sina for birth?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I don't know now I tell yeah, I think either one,
I think, but also I think the Bronze.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
I don't know if this would get on like the
p l E.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
But they definitely said like they're coming for like the
tag titles. Yeah, they've been like I think Hayman said,
like they beat the USOS, so now like they beat
the greatest tag team of all time, So now they're
the greatest tag team of all time and they're coming
for the the tag titles next. So I don't know
if that would like make Crown Jewel to put that

(20:42):
like on the show, or if they just like do
that on Raw and then like they're just the tag chaffs.
But I think for Sena, yeah, I think one of
the bronze, either Breaker or Bronson.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
And as for someone else, like I don't know, may
like I don't know, I feel like it's gonna be
the like a dominant or something. I don't know, somebody
can be like a hateable of heel. I wad.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Don't do Russo it would be a good match. But
you know what, Perth wouldn't be bad because the like
I don't know, this doesn't exactly fit the dominant character.
But you could if you wanted to build a legacy,
they could play up the whole scene has never won
the IC title thing very quickly. Yeah, and that's where
you could play that up. And I don't think Scena
should win it, but I actually would not.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Be drop his last match.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Pother back there. But like my idea would be my idea. Okay,
So I go breaker up Perth war games dom because
when's the masson square Garden one?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think the massive square is first.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's first, okay, So then I think you could do
then I'd say Seth and Sina. You have Dominic in
Scena and Boston. He wins the ICY title on his
home crowd. Now I know Guth, there's the rumor repons
I don't want Guth there, But you know what, I
guess maybe that's.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like I'm above the Icy like.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Samoa Joe did. I don't know, if I don't know
if you ever heard of s Bubs. I think it
was happening well that and then he did the uh
the he was like the longest r O h TD
champion and he just gave it up. He's like, I'm
just done. He beat Hobbes and then after you beat Hobbs,
he did a promo of like, yeah, I'm just gonna
not be a champion anymore.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
The leak I started watching, I feel like I remember
seeing like, oh, somemo Joe just like relinquishes Tea and
yeah I did.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
They did have him when the aw title right after,
so I guess at least that happened. It's like, okay,
it made sense, but he looked like such a geek
at first, like I'm just gonna like yeah, but David,
who are you thinking for? For Sena Perth?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So here's my thoughts with Sena and Perth. I think
that Sina is not going to have a scheduled match.
I think it's gonna be him on the Grayson Waller effect.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
God damn.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Hold, but wait, there's more, and I think I think.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Ses return No.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I think that is when the vision come out and
they take out Grayson Waller and one of them challenges
Sena to a right then right there.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Match okay, as long as it ends that way. If
it's just fucking on the waller effect.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Nope, because I don't think you want to give away
the matches yees. So I think he might be advertised
for that, and then that's when you go into him
having an actual match.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I think he will. I definitely think he will.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Take on one of the Bronze because I have a
feeling he wants a good match against bron Breaker before
he goes out. But also you're in Perth, so having
Bronson Reed do something would also that would fit into that.
So I think that he's gonna get challenged by someone.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Like a face male Australian, like if he's like like
a tag match or something like. Both the Brons are like, oh,
we're gonna beat you up Sona and then someone comes
out and it's like.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Let's just give him Rea Ripley. Man, let's get the
Johnson and Ria Ripley. Let's let's see Ria Ripley riptide
Bronson Reid. Hell yeah that the room off the rope,
off the rope super finisher, the roof would blow off
that place.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
She got loot gallows a one time, so she could
she do it?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Give her enough? You know. It's like that's where it's like,
I know lots of people feel if he got intered
in wrestling and stuff like that. But just like man,
when we talked about last night of We'll Get There,
it was like, fuck, Becky.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Would there very similar similar wrestlers and just the stuff
they do.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I was like, Becky and Seth could be better than Becky,
and Punk might be better than a punkin Seth, you know,
like god damn. So yeah, but anyway, so yeah, we
had we talk about that. I guess we're about the Bronze.
I thought the tag match was was fine, Like I
don't know. Obviously it's tough because the ending got a
little man because it looks like Jay got somewhat hurt.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
So I guess like the slow mo clip because when
I was watching it, just like in normal speed, I
couldn't figure out like when he hit himself, but the
slow mo is like crazy, like yeah, he hits he
hits bron in like the back and it bounces up
like so quickly against his head that he's like instantly
like busted open, like spot flilling everywhere.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
But yeah, so apparently he's like in concussion protocols.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, the match itself was like it was fine. I
guess it was just kind of like there it was
just to show I guess the bronze being like dominant,
but La Knight didn't really like screw either of them over,
kind of just let them do.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Like the share moments of him going like oh are
you telling you that? On trying not to like like
there wasn't like I don't know it just like Braun
moves out the way and you get hit your luck
you did that on purpose, like you were standing right here.
You know exactly what happened, and this has happened in

(26:20):
your matches before, like you know how this.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Works at least wrestling trope when wrestler gets hit by
the wrestler like did you did you hit me? It's
like just watch the fucking replay, man, You're gonna be okay,
Like I yes, yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Like what it did, like was the end.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
The ending made me laugh where Jimmy is like in
that table and as as they're counting three, the table
just slowly almost perfect.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah yeah, no, it's pretty good there, so, but yeah,
I guess for me the other thing is too because
I've said this before. I know people talked about and
I suppose you share the clip about this potential jus
so he'll run terrible idea. You never know because maybe
it's something great, But I just think that's terrible, and
I guess.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
It's I don't think they're actually good.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I don't think they are, but it's not.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Going to give them like like it's like it's like
the Hogan thing before he actually went into Hollywood Hogan,
where he was gonna be like like dark Hogan until
you know, like you just were all black.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
This is like a year before Hollywood Hogan, but he's
like evil Now you were.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
The black jeans and the black jean vest and yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
But you just acted like the same.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I didn't color my beard brother.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah No, I think for me the problem and it's
not the exact same as like the acclaimed in a
W But I just I was not like, man, I
need the usso's back together right now. And I know
that's the play because Jay's the singles act like for
everybody kind of goes up and down, but I'm not
this And I guess even though when they came back,
he didn't feel as big and I don't know, just
I don't know what we're trying to achieve here, but cool.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think when you do these types of matches, you
need a true reason for them coming together, like when
it can't. When Cody and Dustin teamed up, they you know,
he had the whole. Hey, I have this huge match
coming up, and what I need is my brother, Like
for something this monumental. If I'm making history, I want

(28:18):
to do it with you or Egine Christian coming back
together like it he's my asshole, Like you have those
moments where there's a bigger reason for them coming back
together other than well we're putting Jay in this thing
with the Bronze and this other thing with l A.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Knight, the team with l A. Knight he lost once
He's like I need you back, man. It's like that's
it just because yeah, like go get another partner. Ask
Cody was up to, Like you want to take titles
with Cody. I know they're busy, but I mean, like
and k Fave, like there's no one else on the
roster before you gotta get your brother back.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
But the them bringing back the old music, like to
me that that's a Big four, Big five pay per
V moment a wrestled palooza on a random Saturday night,
Like you say this for a moment, maybe it is
a championship match, Like Jimmy is working towards enthering and
he's like, hey, the if this is my shot at

(29:15):
being a champion again, I'm going for my brother. And
then you bring Jay in for this. They do the
old music everything else. This just seemed like nostalgia bait
and the match was it was all over the place.
It wasn't bad, It just wasn't anything that made me go.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Man, I'm glad I got to see this match.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, it's a weird thing for me to say, but
at this point I like more when it was like
Jay on the road to Gunther and he just need
a mystery partner and Ja came in for a match.
They did that, then they use the gun the thing,
and that to me was perfect where it's like, oh,
it's like a fun cameo of the usso's. But then
they go back. But I think it it's another thing too,
like they don't know what to do. Jimmy. You know,
they're just like I like, I's it's tough. It's like

(29:55):
he is teys argument the better, but yeah, it's better promo,
better wrestler. It's the Matt and Jeff thing. Though Matt
was always a better wrestler than Jeff, but like he
didn't have the ore that Jeff did, right, And that's
where the same thing as that and Christian as a babyface.
I'd say it was the same as Edge. That's why
Christian woman he was a heel, was fine, but both
Matt and Jimmy as heels were nothing. Is That's where

(30:17):
it's like, it is very much like The Hardy Boys,
where j just has the Jeff hardy thing and you can't.
You can't no matter what Jimmy can do, he can't
get there when he's like a singles title. It's like,
I have no interest in Jimmy, who's so holding a
singles title right now? You know, Like.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Reverend Devon at this point is Reverend Deacon Bautista too?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Have you seen Jista before s pubs? Yeah, that was
Batista's main roster. It's just a guy collecting donations for
Reverend going around with the collection point.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Remember, because I think one of these, like last two
like w W games, like one of the deals was Deacons.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Really that's awesome. Oh yeah, because he had like the
I everything. But yeah, so we'll see. Hopefully Jay's okay,
like and I don't know what they're doing with the story.
I my prediction is if everyone's okay wrestling. Anytime the
Ussles are winning the tag team title, that's my prediction.
They're gonna do some longer build. Maybe there's some drama
here and there, but either okay, I'll change it. Either
they're winning or they're defending the title, and hopefully there's

(31:19):
some good team. Hopefully they build up for Raxium or
something I wouldn't be Yeah, in a last ever TLC match,
you know, like it could happen. But then after that,
to me, definitely, I think almost they're gonna agree the
match tonight and maybe I have to decide, but between me,
it's probably this and then the Hangar and Fletcher one
I'd have to think about. But for multiple reasons. But

(31:40):
Stephanie Picker beats you know, EO Sky I'm trying to
say her old name, but yeah, I I know everyone
talks about and it's not that's not true about EO
and Rhea Ripley and their chemistry. But Stephanie and EO
have I won't say that same chemistry, but their own
chemistry of their own. I've said this before, we told
about this discord remind me of Ordon Christian where I

(32:02):
don't think Stephanie and I are gonna ever have a
bad match, and and not either with Ria either, but
just like I think with because Ossie with Rhea, she
plays like the bigger, strong hoss in that match, and
this is like they're not similar styles, but they have
variations of it. But this was a great match. The
last two matches have been great, but they always went
to the DQ finish. I'm just very happy that they

(32:22):
didn't because everyone was worried and everyone's speculating. I'm happy
that there was no miss, no oscar interference, nothing, because
to me, it's like if Stephanie's winning her first main
title and it is due to like the miss, unless
it's a heel turn, which is not the case because
she's slowly building up and people are liking her. Do
it this way and it does not hurt EO at all.
EO's like been at Multi, she just won the last WrestleMania.

(32:42):
She's a semi mon event with Bailey she's gonna have
like a big program with Oscar and carry like she's
always gonna be around. You could argue she is top
five in the world, not just men and female like
of the world. So like EO's gonna be fine taken
in here. It helps Stephanie and I don't know why.
It's for some reason it doesn't feel as as usual
like people winning it this early. I think it just

(33:03):
feels natural. But as I said before, I think even
if Naomi was in the spot, Stephanie's winning. I'm telling
you it's gonna be It's it's Stephanie and Ria. I'm
booking it right now. I think Ria's winning that chamber
rumble and they're they're doing it. For one, it'll be
a fantastic match, but two just the social media everything
that they'll have a big time promoting that. But I
thought this was a great match and really deliver it.

(33:25):
So what about US pubs?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
No, Yeah, I really really enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Like I already loved the two other matches they had
on Raw that like ended in the DQ, so for
them to get this one with the full time was
just great. And yeah, I think it actually was different
than the other matches because I felt like the other
ones were all like go, go go. This one did
have some stuff with obviously her working over like the

(33:50):
legs of Veo to the point where she had to
like take off the knee pads. But then that also
went into like when she missed the moon salt, then
that like.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Hurt her her knee even more.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah, so I thought I thought it was a really
cool match that actually was different than the ones they
had already had just they did different stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, this this to me is match of the night.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I would say, as much as I loved Hangar and
Fletcher and they had some amazing spots, but just pure
bell to bell, the fun of the match, the fluidity
of the match and everything else, and these ladies put
on an incredible match with some incredible spots and just
it was a highlight for both of them, and it

(34:39):
was a highlight for women's wrestling. And I think about,
you know, their time in NXT, especially Stephanie Vickers, and
looking now, I'm like, you've got her as a women's champion,
You've got Julia as women's United States Champion. Like they
have really shown why they were so highly tout it

(35:00):
coming in.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
And I'm completely happy for you.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I agreed that this was the situation where Eosky can take.
The loss doesn't hurt her at all. It gives a
big elevation to Stephanie, who's already sitting pretty high. But
this just solidifies it, and I think they will continue
to have more matches. I look forward to some of
the other matches that Stephanie has, and I want her

(35:25):
to be able to defend this title a couple of
times and really show her stuff in that realm before
any eventual losses.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, I hope it's not. She just wins the title
and she just becomes backstage promo person, Like that's what
TRIPLEH did with EO, and that was like like, Hiria,
good match. Hi whoever? Good Match's? Like, yeah, what are
we doing here? Like I've said before, I was a
big fan and when Brett Hart would like main event
the program and like defend his title against tug Boat
and he'd get like a three point five out of
tug Boat, Like and EO was that person that could

(35:54):
have done that. You could have put her in there,
Like maybe it's not the most drama because people thought, oh,
she's gonna win but you could put her there with
Ivy Nile and I bet you she's gonna get like
a really good matcher or like especially with it be
on that flat did.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Have a really good match with Ivy.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
That's why like these worker people that, like especially with Io,
is surprised because like, oh she knows English, but it's
not like the first language everything. So sometimes the proms
were very basic and I was surprised, Like she's the
wrestler champion, why isn't she just like beating everybody and
then you know, eventually lose it the way she did
with my Bank. So I hope with Stephanie it's not
she just becomes the Aura girl and that's where or

(36:29):
just like six you know Tony Kahan six Women tags
all the time and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
But yeah, I mean they're they're pretty stacked on raw
with women. They rock Sande Perez, Rhea, Raquel, Natalia, you know,
lyra Valkeria, Live Morgan whenever she eventually returns, like Kyrie saying,
they're pretty stacked on raw when it comes to the

(36:52):
women OSCA.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
So yeah, I'm looking.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Forward to that the storyline stuff, like I feel like
she definitely defends against OSCA at some point and she
said that's like her her dream match to have like
a one on one match with Osca, which I feel
like that would be really good because they were in
like one of those like four Ways for like Queen
of the Rig and like they had some interactions there.
But yeah, definitely, definitely, I feel like they'll do like

(37:19):
a match with Raquel, especially since they've been like building
her up a lot lately. You could do that, and yeah,
like you said, I do want her to defend a lot. Honestly,
she's gonna have the match with most likely Tiffany in
a few weeks there, so that's at least one match
to get there, and after that, yeah, I'll have to see.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I wonder.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I assume this story is probably what's gonna be like
in sort of like the Wargames type story, but I
guess I don't know if they do both ones on Raw.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
But I guess the SETH one that could.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Be like a cross brand one too, especially if you
have like Cody and their like brock and scene in there.
I guess, so you could probably find some women SmackDown
to put in there.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
And I guess this.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Sort of unrelated, but another random thought I had, is
this probably like this is probably the first time, like
the Women's World Championship is James hands in both AW
and W on the same day, right, Like I don't
think there'd be another one where they had like.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
A same day.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, I would venture to say that because Aw's Women's
has not changed hands a lot. But I said, we
have the opportunity here she could run through all three
of the Kabuki warriors, like just having those banger matches,
and I think all three of them are such high
caliber also that it would boost.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Her stock ass champion.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
So I think that that's a good place to start
after this whole Crown Jewel Women's what a Crown Jewel
chance ampion ship thing, which again is completely I'm not
here for that, but it is what it is, which is.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Gonna be good though if it is her, and if
it's her and Tiffany, I think that that's gonna be
really good. Like I guess I could see a world
I think we all agree that Tiffany's just gonna win
by pinning Nye and they say the jade thing. I
guess you could do a world where she jade pins
Nah and tifty isn't lost. And you can do Jade
and Stephanie, but I don't think that's a good idea.
I think in that case though, of Stephanie versus Jade,

(39:31):
I really don't know her. Sorry, Stephanie versus Tiffany and
the winner there, I really don't know who would get
that because it's there are both on interesting builds where
I feel like Stephanie is getting the like the young upstart,
you know, rookie just on a big role. I know
she's not rookie but in WW right, But then Tiffany
is getting this long reign and she's like getting the

(39:51):
almost somewhat dominant champion of she's beat everybody on SmackDown.
There's no one left. So it's that is a that
is a tough one. Like if I feel like if
I had to pick, I think they might give it
to Stephanie just to keep that going because Tiffany hasn't
lost in a while, so you can kind of keep that,
you know, going up that you know, yeah, it got
to or like I said the way I said about

(40:12):
Cody and k Fabe, like eventually she's just been defending more,
you know, Or you could always have Jade in here
if you could have something right, because.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think that's I said, depending on how that match goes,
the Triple Threat match goes, especially if Jade is not
involved in the pinfall, I could see her then coming
in and interrupting this match and staking her claim against
Tiffany because they could get that titled wrong.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Isn't that he Live beat NYA? Wasn't there some shenanigans
going on in that match? I thought, like, like lived
into beat NYE clean? Right, I thought there was done
or something. Yeah, that's what I mean where we've seen
that before, right, So but yeah, we'll see that'll be
if they let them go again. I would not the
same way Tiffany or Stephanie losing either way. That's why
I think they would give Tiffany losing just because Stiffany

(40:56):
just won the title and be alled to lose. But like,
that's what I did. You know. I liked triph first
took over, and I like what AW usually does is
if you have two Titans and one of them just loses,
that's okay because someone's gonna lose, you know. It's the
same way as football. It's like and then that gives
where drama the next time they verse go, hey, you
beat me last time. It's like the same time when
in the future when they do Gunther and Cody too,

(41:16):
it's like Cody got him at the Rumble, he got
him at Saudi goother has like a full reason like no,
I gotta I'm gonna beat you this time because you
got my number, right, Like I think there's there's a
great cadence as far as I loved it back in
the day and many times. Right, but Tommy Dreamer always said,
like I don't ever want to beat Raven because that's
always a story, right of can I beat you this time?
That's I don't think there's anything wrong with having one

(41:38):
superstar that's beating you multile times because there's always story
there and then when you eventually that's what they're doing
with EO and Rheo, right that, And I'll give them
credit that Rhea stillesn't beat EO in a triple thread
and that and that's where it's good of like Reea
can be so good, can beat anybody else, but for
some reason, Eo Sky has her number, and I love
that story. So that's why to me, it's like if
Tiffany loses, not like oh, pushes over, like Guther lost

(41:59):
a cod and he end up being Okay. I think
him losing the Jay hurt him more than Cody if anything.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
So but yeah, yeah, the the Cody loss, when it
came to Gunther, it made sense. And then you had
that whole like that dishevel like I'm supposed to be
that like how did I get to this point? And
it added more to Gunther. So yeah, those moments make sense.
You got big name versus big name, someone's gotta fall.

(42:27):
It's the same when it comes like whoever goes to
the super Bowl. You're not going to say, well, that
team sucked. I don't even know why, Like they both
got to this super Bowl. Someone's got to win, and
I think it's the same right here, So you could
have them go over. I have a feeling that Tiffany's
gonna get screwed somehow in that match. Lets Stephanie win,
and I'm all for that. She's the newer champion, She's

(42:49):
the one that you're currently building up. Tiffany has been
built up already as a legitimate contender, So continue building Stephanie,
Vie cure up. Let her take it and go in there.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, exactly, so well. Speaking of the women's division big
showcase last night, which again this is just to me
crazy that you got Tiffany in this big brain Stephanie,
you know, a hot news star like I mean stan Wise,
but of course yes, she's very attractive lady as well.
Everything on Twitter, there's there's lots of stuff there I get.
Emily was like, oh my god, my god, that was

(43:22):
he said that. He said something else where He's like, man,
he is walking line like, oh, I'd like to smooch
that devil's kiss. I was like, man, you sound like
Jerry Lawer in the nineties. I'm fine that.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
There's another one where he said something like.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
That you're a married man.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Wade calm down, like you know, he starts yelling out
about puppies.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I am done with Wade channeling that. But I like
he we.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Got full horny Wade tonight all grand yeah, but and that's.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Where he gets more horny or when he gets yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
But what I was I gonna say, So, that's what's
so crazy is all this stuff is going on and
TRIPLEH loves her, but Julia is just like that title
is dead in the water over. They need something, they
need something. They there, you go to me, it's like,
find somebody that's great and do a best of five
Julian and just have that like they need something over there,
because like even now with Becky and had An I see,

(44:22):
and now with AJ, it's just like it's kind of
crazy that you know, this big showcase and Austin. I
don't know if it's gonna happen in Perth, but we
know at some point they're gonna do AG and Becky.
I think that could go either way. I think AJ
could win. I think Becky could win, Like they could
also do it like a trilogy where Becky kind of
like lyra sneaks that when well, who knows. But to me,

(44:42):
the mixtape over delivered because I thought, yeah, they went
thirty minutes, like just like five minutes, like just a
couple under Kyle Fletcher and Hangman who were doing like
this like wrestling class like this was to.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Me, it was like just this one match was almost
as long as every match a long.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Day Diva's title reign combined.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, and that that's what's crazy, and that's what for me,
that was the thing I was most happy about that.
I thought about his last episode, But AJ never got
to do like she had a couple of Page, a
couple of Kalin, but never this like huge high profile, yes,
cinema match tables weapons because I remember when Page because
they used to do the theme like payter Reviews and
was hell in the Cell And I remember there being

(45:27):
a big campaign for Pages and AJ's like blowoff match
to give them the cell. Everyone's like they should get
the first woman sell and they didn't, and everyone like
was really pissy about and stuff. So that's where it's like,
now we're in this era where this can happen. So
even seeing the table bump where Becky, which I loved
and it broke in such a cool way like accidentally,
but when just what a maneuver Like I'm just gonna
chuck you at your husband and Seth and kudos to

(45:50):
Punk because it's the funniest thing ever. Pointed us on
the discord that when they hit the table a j
bounce and Punk saw it, he sold for like two
seconds and then just got right up like hey you okay,
Like she's a history of back and she's I'm not
saying it was wrong, but it's just so funny how
you can tell you when to husband motive, he sold shit,
he was he got right up. He didn't even care.
But no, this match, to me, it's similar to like

(46:12):
it just sounds different, but like Moxley and the Hangman,
where I would never give that as a five star
as far as like the match quality, but for the
entertainment wise, they hit everything.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Man, Yeah, like Cody and Seth versus Rock and Roman.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Absolutely, like it just.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Went like way way more than I thought it was
gonna be, especially at length, even though that hour was
like no one was like fifteen minutes long, but like
just in terms of the stuff they did and like
stuff that like it was the same thing, like I
didn't think like the Rock was gonna take like getting
rock bottom by Cody to like they're the announced table
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Like that same thing when they're on the tables. Because
what happened was the match was like kind of coming
to a crescendo and then all of a sudden they
went outside and they started removing the tables. I was like,
oh my god, like we got another like five to
ten minutes here, and I was surprised what was going on.
But it was great, and I love the dual spots
and that's something what it felt like. It felt like
AJ was like, I'm sure they all plan and whatnot,

(47:09):
but it just felt like I got a bunch of
shit I want to do here that I've never got
to do. Let's do it, and no, to me, it
over delivered big time. Yeah, AJ was a little rusty.
She needs to work on those punches, those those long
that's tough for me. I was like, I love my girl,
but like, those are some tough ones. But no, I
hope with other couples or managers. They which was so funny,

(47:29):
they had these stats of both couples were undefeated and
intergender tags and stuff. But and the best thing, because
you never know with WW and where there's at, I
love that they started the match broke down to okay,
the men are just wrestling the woman, and here we go,
you know, and the crowd ate that for every old
time it's gonna be I'm not gonna take a bump
for its lady. It's like the people that are watching
at home, they don't give a shit. And we live

(47:51):
in an era where there are dozens of women in
UFC that could beat the shit out of millions of
men on the planet. So it's like we're not in
the era anymore, puppies and divas and stuff. So I
love when I ages do it like they're they're stealing shows.
Move like the AJ stomp and again like I send
the discorder earlier. It's like for some reason, it felt
like the Yeah, the Black Women and he saw the

(48:13):
great eyes. Happy.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I thought he was gonna like actually tap out.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I thought for second two the way his hand was,
and I was happy Punk was starting to sell for
Becky too, because it bugged me the whole time. Anytime
she hit him, it was like Superman to like a
little kid. It's like she's still like a women's like
sell a little bit. But then he did and like
she did a sharpshooter on him, like all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Like when he was turning around, I thought he was
going for like the figure four.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Figure eight was.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
What bridges and that's the figure they They just put
in so much and that's why it's like I love
that they were bumping for each other and it was
it was tremendous, Like I wouldn't even be mad if
they just flat out ran this match back with like
a stip or anything else, Like they just this this
was fantastic, So they to me over delivered on what

(48:59):
I thought was gonna be. So yeah, this is, like
I said, probably my third match leakend for just because
entertainment wise.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Though, yeah, there's I view this very highly, like if
I had degraded and be a B plus a minus.
But a lot of that is because of the nostalgia aspect.
It is just seeing a j Lee and having those moments, man,
Seth skipping around and then the second time you did it,

(49:26):
skipping into the g Yeah, those those moments make that match.
So while the last match to women's match is just man,
this was a damn good match or a Hangman in
flesh was just like, this is a damn good match.
This was man, this is fun. I'm I'm loving seeing this.

(49:46):
I'm loving seeing some of the things. Yeah, there there
were some miscues and was.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Still on a couple of times. That moment when he
when he had Becky it was Becky, right, Seth and
Becky in the air, Yeah, and then he's like to
throw them and you can see Seth like he said something.
I was like, all right, and then he rolls out
the way and there they did this and end up
still being cool. But they did this thing where Seth
caught AJ and they were going down, and it's supposed
happened as Punk supposed to meet the me. He catches

(50:13):
Aj and throws them back. Agies were fully fun. The
speed and then punch oh, and then just picked and through.
So yeah, there's a couple of times Punk was a
little behind on.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I did kind of feel like just I rewatched this
match earlier and there was a couple of times where
I spotted where it looked like Punk was not fully
in tuned with the match, And I think.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
That is all because this was AJ's.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
First match, and I think he was like legitimately a
reveling in his wife and her return, but also at
times being like, ooh, that kind of looked like horror pump,
you get over there, you get over there, because there
were times where he broke character on a couple of
moments where she did something nice and you look over
and he's like, yeah, that's my girl.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Like that moment though, when they when when Becky tapped
and they had the shotgun on the table like eccelerating,
that was really it was good stuff, you know, And
that's where probably just nervous effect of like, sure they've
tagged and done this before, but this is a whole
different scenario.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Their husband and wife, that's husband, jacket and everything else. Like, yeah,
it was it was fun. The double submission spot was fun.
Aj doing her submission on both of them, getting them
both into the Black Widow, and then you know, rolling
through there like that was fun. So it was just

(51:35):
it was a good fun match, and you know, I
enjoyed it, but yes, I will. My biggest criticism to
your point is punk no selling. Like the slaps and
stuff from Becky. It made sense the night that aj
Lee returned because hey, I know I've got back up,

(51:56):
so I just got to sit here and take this
for a bit. But in that match, again, she's a
former woman champion, she's the man. She has wrestled and
gone toe to toe with men before. Like her her hits
and her slaps should make you feel some type of
way protect This isn't big show giving you a w
m D. But this is also this is this is

(52:19):
someone giving you a nice little slat.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
So yeah, so no, I no, I agree. I wish
they did a little bit of that, but yeah, that's
should should have went on last still to my opinions
that the crowd was rocking the most. It was into it,
and you know, uh, I suppose to anything more say
on the mixed Tank.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Uh No, Like you said, I wouldn't even be opposed
that they just ran this back in like extreme rules
or like a table smatch or something like that. I'd
be okay with that. But I do think they're gonna
go into the the a j Lee and uh and
Becky Feud. I do wonder what Punk does in the meantime,

(52:58):
because obviously sets gonna be with the Cody and just
doing stuff with Becky.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
I don't really know what Punk is is up to.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
When you were talking about and obviously he's not Australian.
But I would not even put a bass in that
they do scene in Punk versus the bronz Ands or
the Bronze I like to me, I could see that
just as a and that could also be war games
because what's after Survivor series? What's that pay per view?
Is that?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Do we got one more of that event?

Speaker 4 (53:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Because because that used to be TLC time.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, that's what my mind always thinks that there's a
December pay per view. So because you have to blow
off Seth and Punk at some point, like you have
to finally blow it off. You have to be done
with this for like a good couple of years, and
that's a tough thing. If they do what we've pitched
at Brock and Seth and Rumble, Like I think there's
a good chance that Punk and Seth could be at
Rumble as well, Like that could be the final blow off.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Or you could do it like whatever, because I assume
like whatever, like the day one raw could be right,
like maybe do like just like a full year like
they do like the last match on like the first ROUW.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
That'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be cool. And make it
a fucking arm and match and make Punk do sixty
and see what happens. I want to see it. Man, Hey,
you know, I like when you get I know some
people don't like when he gets I don't mind like
the match goo through when he gets slopped because to me,
I buy that tired O'bviously, the spots last night were
a little bit different, but yeah, day one, that can happen.
They just have to blow it off because I just
feel like that's not the WrestleMania match. Even though I think,

(54:28):
like we've talked about before. Unless it's awesome, I really
don't know what the punk mania matches like felt maybe
you find another couple that agent punkin face off with,
you know, like who's who's another couple we got like
you can always well, remember we've pitched, right, we pitched
punk and down before, so you could always do live
in domin a j and Punk. So there's some other
stuff you could do. But uh, yeah, I'll see and

(54:48):
then yeah, but me event enjoy the match was good.
I just like I said, I think this should not
gone on last I could hear there's a few booze
for Cody and I just I just worry they're gonna
they're gonna, like fully seen a Roman him that they're
gonna keep They're gonna make people bored of Cody and
I and I don't think they should do that. I
think last night was a good match. I liked the
story of him being hurt so getting through it. I

(55:11):
just felt like even the ways we booked it, as
surprised that he just yeah, he just hit crossroads on
I know Drew was her and there's a turn buckle,
but he just he just beat him. So I I.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Don't know why.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
This is like the first like Kevin Owans match, like
the one he had in Berlin where it was just
like kind of like through outside stuff but not really
outside stuff. He won because that one, the story of
that one was like Cody gets like injured in that
match or like cave favorite. It was pretty much the
same thing going in where he was like injured and
like Kevin Owans could have.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah, but that like that closed the show though, right,
that opened the show? Sure, yeah, and that that to
me was just it's all about placed when I just
I don't know. I'm just wondering how it's gonna go.
The Age one felt better and just yeah, we didn't
get a surprise. I'm down for that. I really wanted
Drew to win just because he's my guy. I just
think that now because he had that long run, there

(56:03):
should be a couple more chases. Maybe that will happen.
But uh, same thing. I'm curious see what's gonna happen.
We're getting close and close to Romanian season. But I'm
very excited for Seth and Cody. But yeah, this match
was good to me. This was like a solid like
three point seven five. I couldn't get to the four
I gave it. Yeah, that's where I am like three
point seventy five. Good match, some good storytelling. Drew's always

(56:23):
a delight. I love Drew Man, Like they've cooled him off,
but he has such good characters stuff. The other time
I knew he was losing two is when they did
the title and he fucking like caressed him like, oh,
he's for sure not winning it now like that, because
that's such a heel move to be like, oh, look
at me.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Think I know there was one match like recently, I'm
trying to remember what it was where like the person
like touched the title and then they actually did end
up winning.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Oh really, do you ever think of that?

Speaker 4 (56:48):
You know, it definitely happened, And I was like it happened.
I was like, oh, well they're not.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Winning now, but reverse psychology good.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah yeah yeah. No.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
So with this match, like wrestling wise out of w
W paper vs. Not counting the Night as Ault, just
out this card out of wrestled Polue, I would say
this was the second best wrestling match, but it wasn't
the second best match. Second best wrestling match, just not
the second best match. I did joke with some of

(57:17):
my friends when they're like, oh, Cody wants another one.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I was like, well you got us. Send the people
home happy I go.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
You started off on a high, you had the aj
Lee return, then you had the step and you make
Man moment. Now you finished with Cody. It just skyrockets
going up. But my my only parts about this that
just seemed a little bit off was what there was
the moment with the referee sliding out the ring and

(57:44):
then sliding back in, and Drew is all pissed about that,
and I'm just like, again, yeah, this is this is
where life. A guy is coming at you full steam.
Why wouldn't you drop out and roll out the ring?
That it's made not a sense.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Using the commentary table as a weapon is not like
a four Like we just had a match where two wrestlers,
like four wrestlers were using as weapon. I get what
I think they're trying to do is well, last time
he did the goody really hurt him. But it's like,
well whatever fuck Like.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
That on SmackDown like two weeks ago, when like like
Randy lost to Drew because he was gonna he was
gonna like actually do the punt kick and then the
referee was like whoa, that's like a band move and
Hoorn's like what and then the referee moved out of
the way and then Drew Claymourdom.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
And one, Yeah, it's weird. There's two in a row
that the Drew really likes the referee.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
It was the same referee.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Interesting, you know, I'd be completely fine they did that because.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
We go the whole Brad Maddox thing with the screwball
referee or who else did they do it with Scott
Armstrong was like the corporations or not the corporate the
authorities referee.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Or even like I love this and they do that
a little bit in aw with Rick Knox, right, like
he kind of like is easier on the bugs. But
I love they did that with Charles Robinson back there
with Brick Flair, right because he was a little nate.
Yeah when Rick would break the rules, Oh well, they're
kind of friends, so that's why he lets them do it.
So like I would love if this Drew's like this
fucking ref you know, because give him the spot that
Bronca where he needs to the ref Like I love

(59:12):
the Drew, just claymore a ref.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
That refs trying to fuck on me.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Yeah, like and it's so I love when non wrestlers
take the F five because like we just saw it
this week. Corey Great, I'm happy you can take bumps.
That's awesome. He took a bump the ret when he
picked up that red the reference like he had he
like lost gravity. He was like where the fuck, Like
just go flat, Brock will pick you up. But he
was like he almost fucked up the f FI for
Brock just and luckily Brock's like strong as a fucking ox,

(59:37):
but it's like just honker over, but they have no
idea what to do with like why are your arms
like this, He's gonna throw out You're gonna break an arm,
Like what are you doing? It's just like tuck it, man, Yeah,
like just lay flat and take the bump.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
There's one where like, uh like Brock gave him in
the F five and it was like the softest, like
fairly anything.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I kind of remember that because I feel like it
was really anti climath do what happened? And I was like,
oh okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Because it was like a table too, and he just
like lately five.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yes, right, the table.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
My second issue with this was the hole the Drew
mcintare going for the claymore, the legs buckling. It just
seemed goofy for two guys who have been putting on
a great match. That just seemed like a goofy spot
of all, Oh no, my leg buckled, I can't do
the run and things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Like I love that spot. I liked that one because
he just David.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
He's like, but the way that he fell come on
that was, Yes, that was some some goofy say that
because the one that I've seen people hate the Cody
so when he goes to the kicking he like falls
down because like I think people just have an obsession
with how Cody Rode walks in general.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
But like I was, like, I thought.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
That one was like like good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I liked because I thought tore a hammy, like I
said last night, was like, oh no, Cody's down. See
wrest of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
It looks like such a I fell in a banana
peel moment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
That's fair. Yeah, they both had a bit of those,
but uh but I mean still bugs me that Trude
does the three count for the claymore when he's a
fucking heel, Like, why is he doing that? Why I
always hated that. I understand why he does it. It's
like the sweet Him music, but it just seems goofy
in a match like sweet Him music. I don't know.
I shouldn't excuse either because it makes no sense. Why
are you stomping and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Write well, they're tuning up the band.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Well no, I think the k favorite reason they used
to say is when opponent was down, if he stomped
on the mat, it would wake them up, like Daisily.
That's the kaya reason. But drew counting. If you hear that,
anytime I'm rolling on the fuck the ring, I'm not
getting up like I will come pin me like I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Think Randy Orton did do that. Randy Orton did do
He started the count and Randy like got and then
he just fell and rolled out the ring. And it
was just like, yeah, yeah, if you're gonna telegraph it
for me like that, and you have the entire crowd
chanting with the I'm gonna roll out the ring, You're
not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
This to me again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
With baby Face, I don't care at all because it's
like you're part of Babyface. Your whole stick is like
I feed off the people, right, So you want them chanting.
But Drew, who like on record, hates the fucking WW universe,
why is he wanted them to count with them? But yeah,
I think they have a I think there is legitimately
a five star match potential there. It's just a question
of if we get or It reminds me of Becky

(01:02:26):
and Lyra, where I thought their last one was gonna
be that, but then we got those Bailey Shenanigans and
didn't really go that route. That's always my worry with Randy.
Like I think Cody and Ran. People might think I'm dumb,
but like I think Cody and Drew could have like
a match to your candidate with the story and the
right stip and the right situation. But I don't know.
I think there's gonna be a lot of stuff going on.
But so I hope, yeah, they run it back and

(01:02:48):
I don't know. And like I said, I would love
it if Drew Runner. I'm still not opposed to what
you pitched us both someone doing the triple threat and
that's how Randy wins, That's how we get to Cody
and Randy at Mania. Like I I I take Cody
and Randy as a great like option and I've always
said before even if they don't Maine event the show,
that's fine because Cody's main invented like WrestleMania thirty nine,

(01:03:09):
forty one, both nights, forty or forty both nights. Like
he's at forty. He can take a like Roman, he
can take like a break he doesn't have. Well Roman
actually hasn't taken a break the triple threat, right, but
like him and Randy could open a fucking WrestleMania and
have a hot match, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
But yeah, they they don't need the Roman going six
main events of WRESTLEMANI in a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Row or whatever it was. Yeah, they they can.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
He's still on the streak. He it hasn't. I think
the last time he hasn't made event WrestleMania is when
he fought Drew, actually when he came back from cancer.
I think ever since then, whether it's the Night one
or actually he's been the COVID Yeah exactly. Yeah, I'll
astix because he would have been with Goldberg, right, he
would been spearing Goldberg all over the place. But like,
I think that, like he still has that streak going.

(01:03:51):
I think he's gonna again too. I think like because
obviously him and Seth could be a viable option this year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And I do want Drew to get a championship win
outside of the COVID area with fans and to hold
it for a while. And you know what, even have
him running once he's championed, have him running back with
see him Punk, because I think they had some bangor
room matches. Now do it with the title on the line, like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
And they still never did Drew, Seth and Punk. How
they never did that triple threat is beyond me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Which would be an absolute banger.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
So yeah, there's there's so many options while still keeping
Cody strong. But yeah, overall, good match, five match, fun match,
second best wrestling match, jess it. I agree that the
AJ match should have finished off the show. Give her
that moment, give her the confetti, give her the fireworks,

(01:04:50):
give for everything to truly send the crowd home happy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
And even that it was just the more like hype
match for the crowd, Like that was just like that
had the people going.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
You know, it was like, all right, we're done celebrating
and here's the Undertaker for a weird Hall of Fame segment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
So I will say it. I think I've said on
psych or here, but in case I haven't. My conspiracy
theory is they put in tributes last year and they're
putting Stephanie in this year so they can get rid
of at any point and they're like, oh, we got
bring back for the whole of Fame, they're already in.
I'm telling you, I don't think it's happening, but I'm
just saying that's my conspiracy theory for why they're going
in the Hall of Fame right now, because the fact
it's not Sena is a little a little odd. No

(01:05:27):
Batista still like we're still waiting everything, but uh, yeah,
that was It's odd to do it so early in
the year. I know people.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I think someone said, like, is this the earliest one ever?
And apparently there was like one like a like a
very long time ago that was like but even then
that one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Was like, this was a month earlier than even that one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah, to see earliest.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
I feel like with both Brunos San Martino and with
Ultimate Warrior, those were announced pretty early, but both of
those were like big lunchpin moments, Like Ultimate Warrior coming
Back was around the release of the game, so it's
like a little bit after that in the late October time.
Bruno San Martino was a big deal, so they annown said,

(01:06:12):
you knew who the headliner is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I have a feeling that this year's headliner might be Sena,
so you finish him out this year's there's there's no.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
I don't think's going in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
But you could have like Seena Inductor or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
No, you've already said that Undertaker's going to Inductor, he said,
he said, I'm it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
My announce I don't think he's actually inducting her. I
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
So you can give another forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
It's gonna be triple h or I know people are
gonna think I'm crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Here comes the money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
No shame, No, I think I would not surprise me
if it's fucking Vince. I like, don't get like because
people are gonna be like, well, it's his daughter and
something special, or or her mom. I think Linda is
a better option because she's been at w W event,
she's been the whole fame after all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
That's what I'll say. I bet it's gonna be fucking
the American education.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Well, she's gonna take five minutes out of her time
to go in doctor Doll. I mean to say it's Linda.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
But I would everyone go read a book that night
at your last opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Yeah, Like I think it's gonna be I think it's
gonna be Linda. In my opinion, they could be triple
h because.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
You know, of course he would.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Of course he would. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
So his music playing not hers?

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Yeah, anything else non or anything else WD. Really we
haven't hit upon yet. No, I don't think so Okay,
so yeah we will. Like I said, I think what
we're gonna do is either we will we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
The dream is like a month or a week after
it's eighteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Yeah, So do you have one request for all the
aw executives who I know are listening now that we
have Stephanie ve Kira's champion and we have n Italia
on raw, give me Natty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Stop giving it to Mexico. I want to see it.
Have her fight the chilain say.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
And in my opinion, like people are overhyping the Natty gimmick,
like she literally I would say, like what I would.
What else saying before is like she wrestles the exact same,
just with the serious face on, but she does.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
But the comment the commentary, actually the commentary gives her
respect though.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Like she still does like the smile, Like she puts
on the sharp Shooter and she still does the smiling
paper she wrestles. She is the exact same character. This
character is so much where she is the exact No.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
It's it's more it's more of.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
The respect that she gets as that character rather than
her wrestling style. Yes, her wrestling style does stay the same,
but it's more of the respect that they give her,
not only from a commentary but also a presentation aspect,
which is something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I think that biggest argument on the Gimmick is about
over Anatty Knight. Are you know what an episode? But yeah,
I know I I have heard what I see both sides,
because I think Dave's right with the presentations there. But
I have seen the memes of she puts in the
sharp shooting like yeah, maybe, and it's the spot so
like she should yeah, she should pull back a little

(01:09:34):
bit to get there. I'm down dated.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I've liked her in like blood Sport more than like
just like normal wrestling matches, Like I think she does
cooler stuff there. Yeah, so I don't know they should
bring you know, call up Lola Ice the main roster
so you can do the underground.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Haven't managed by Josh Barnett. He finally makes his big
ridge between AW and WW was.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
He came out with Goldberg your own.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
What a what a fairing? Oh God? Well anyway, so yeah,
we'll see what happens there. Now we move on to
All Out. I thought all that was a great show.
I think it was better than for Bin Door. I
think it's other than AW. I think like All In
or some of their bigger shows where it's like it's
a long show, but almost every match is matt like
a big big match. There's yes, multiple matches on this card.

(01:10:24):
You could cut and make a dynamite main event, a
collision made event. I think that's just always unfortunately gonna
be a calm with a like That's why unless it
to those big shows and unless every match is a
you know, three point seventy five and up, then I
you know, because something like All into Me that was
like a five out of five show. Even if not
all the matches were great, it all fell I had
a purpose, a story was meant to be there with
this is at least three I'm looking at you could

(01:10:46):
cut and some are after the fact, right, Like for me,
it's like Money and Rio. Once we saw the quality,
it's like, yeah, that didn't need to be here. You know,
I would rather fuck again not none. We don't need
the multi woman tag all the time. Like that is
like a like what I would have done is take
Tekla out of the foreway and let her and Queen
Amnada had like the weapons match on this show and
sat Amona and Rio. You know, like there is changes

(01:11:08):
I would make, But I digress that. I think this
was a really fun show for the big stuff. I
think they delivered a lot. Toronto was hot for the
most part, and uh yeah no, this was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
A like people like the crowd was like weird, especially
I mean people are pointing out for like the women's matches.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
They were like pretty silent the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I heard that about Money on Rio. But it's like
I wouldn't have been getting hyped for this, like Rio
was not. I had not seen the match that she
had had on Dynamite or whatever, but I had heard
about because I missed that dynamond I had heard that
it was not a good match, and when I was
watching here, it's like money was carrying her the entire time.
In my opinion, it was. It was really tough, So
I guess you're right, SUPs. I meant for maybe the

(01:11:49):
bigger stuff that was happening, like the thumb Tacks match.
The crowd was going because the Thumbtacks, but it's just
like they added to like the oh Osie Edge and
Christian was there the main event they were hot for,
so that's where But I agree then, yeah, the Woman's
four way. I think also that was to me kind
of like a it was good but it's clunky. Yeah,
it was aw, that's what's like. I think they did

(01:12:10):
quiet down. But for me, it's like I wasn't surprised
when they did quiet down. I guess you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I'm not really getting the hype behind THEKLA, not to
the degree that Bandwagon over getting pushed like she is
always in these crazy positions and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Just like, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
She's good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
But I was because all i'd heard about people complaining
about see I'm on the opposite that I don't think
the problems those aren't good. But her in the ring,
I think she's really dynamic. I like her I don't
think last night was a best showing for really anybody.
But yeah, what do you think of the show over
all day before? Because we're getting in the single match,
so we'll do a show and then we'll get back

(01:12:57):
to the four way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Yeah, there there are There's two matches that I think
could have been cut and two more matches that I
think could have been augmented, not only in the time
but also the participants that would have just made the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
That's what he's augmented.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Not necessarily techling, but I mean the ending Hangman and
Kyle Fletcher, they gave an amazing MATCHMN and those dead
eyes like had me really wondering about Fletcher. I'm like,
is he okay? Especially the one through the table, I'm like,
is he all right? His head bounced where he just

(01:13:37):
got robbed.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
He's like, everyone complains I'll be hurting people, so please
hurt me tonight, hang Man, So you do the buck
shot afterwards, and he kind of lands awkwardly on the
side of his shoulder. At that point, I'm like, well,
that didn't break his neck. This obviously broke his collar
Bone'm like, my man is is going through it all?
But I'm very happy that they they just let those
guys go and they didn't find any weird shenanigans, any

(01:14:02):
unannounced new member of the don Kallis family that's gonna
do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
He just yeah, I know he's not one of ours.
We can't be in trouble type deal. Like, they just
let him have an incredible match and so that that
that was really good. As much as I thought that
m Jeff was gonna win his match him Mark Briscoe Winnings,
they put on a damn good match. And I love

(01:14:28):
the ending of that, just the you've been talking shit
on me and my fan, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Gonna put you away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
So yeah, I think it had a great start, a
good medal, a great end. It was just some other
tidbits in there that I think for having fourteen matches overall.
And I also like why Tony knowing everything that has
happened during the last two years. I get the the

(01:14:57):
insight joking of it all, but why name part of
your pre showed the brawl out and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
All out excepting it. Man, Just no, just no, I'm
just surprised. I have the bucks on there, you know,
like that, that to me was the key to do it.
But just named the ladder match the brawl out exactly.
You know, so what we asked because I think you
watched most of until.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
The most of it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Yeah, I didn't see the ladder match, and then I
saw like the second half of like Edge and Christian. Yeah,
like I didn't see the very start of it. But yeah,
I enjoyed the show overall. I think from what I
did see, I thought, Yeah, I liked all the matches
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
I have to think we are you on the techlast
side of things?

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
You're switching an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I don't know, how do you feel about techla versus Natty? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, the w W a W dream show and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
In an old school Lions didn't Matchamrock special guest referee.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Where is Shamrock? Why have they not brought him back
from anything? He's in the games, he's on the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yet you know we're I think he was like talking
match shit recently, so that that may be why.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
He's not gonna be in two K twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
I guess, yeah, i'd have to think. I don't know
what my my favorite match was.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
You're King Moxley in the coffin.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Oh well, I don't know, because then that one, like
like they did go like I said in the discord,
like right when I said, like, well, I was expecting
it to be crazier they brought out like the fork
and stuff. But even then, like with the ending and stuff,
which is like pop and the Death Riders coming out,
I still felt like it needed something more. But now
seeing that they're probably gonna have a rematch, I imagine that

(01:16:53):
Scot would be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
So just say some of it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Yeah, So I guess I'd say my favorite one was
probably like the dumb text match.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah, no, they're just saving something. And again that was
weird because's like no one in the roster's gonna come
help this dude, like they're gonna maybe murder him. And
it's like I hate storylines where it's all the whole
company hates this faction. But then when it's like they're
doing something, Nah, we can't do anything, it's just like
it's just two pay per views in a row of that,
And then the ending Forbidden Door where they're killing the

(01:17:21):
osprey and they could climb the fucking cage where they
just let him die, it's just like you babyfaces, suck man,
you all suck, You're awful, like the death rights deserve
to kill you all. It's just dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
It's dumb stuff like there was a segment with mox
and Darby after Yes, just because I didn't miss that,
Like what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
There, it's so dumb. So they go back to just
pulling the coffin, yeah, the coffin, and then they get
in the truck like everybody but mocks like just leave
me here with him?

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
And who are these sixteen year olds in a small
town high school, like everyone jumping in the back of
the pick up pack just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
It is, so they had to because there's so many members.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Now they leave him, and then of course once the
truck pulls away, that's when Darry pops up and starts beating.
He has like a wrench and he's being up Moxley.
And then he put Moxley in a body bag. He
sprayed a gasoline and then lit on fire, and Moxy's like,
oh and then guys.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Immediately yeah, immediately to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Me, that's where it's like, I get I don't think
it was live live, but that's where it's like, do
something more cinematic, like to make it like look like
he's on fire for a little longer. But that's why
I think they're gonna have like a fireball match, or
they might do an exploding barb wire match like they
legitimately I think they because once you introduce the fire
I feel like that's just they're gonna go that route

(01:18:41):
and hopefully, like the thing about the Omega Moxley match,
it actually was really good up until the ending. The
ending really screwed it over. That was the first blunder
eight of you ever had, But the match itself is good.
So I think they're gonna do that and just make
sure their pyro is on lock for this match, like
test it up multiple times, multiple times, and at that

(01:19:03):
point just have like tn T with you and just
throw it if it doesn't go off, you know, like
this has to be big.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, And going back to the first exploding barbar match,
when that didn't go off, I was like, man, they
missed an incredible opportunity to like cut to Tony Kahan
in the back like messing around with something and pretending
like I stop this because I don't I know you
agreed to this, but I don't want my wrestlers hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
No, they just we're just cut the black and let
all we couldn't show you like that's what they cut
the blacklay the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Mess up player?

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Is that like, because I think I forget who like
some people like run out immediately and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Like Eddie Kingston runs out and in carry's no because.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
Because Eddie's the one in the ring, and so the
issue that that came up is like he's in the
ring and he like honestly like he was like covering
I think was it. Yeah, so honestly he did see
that it like didn't go off correctly, so he's like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
He's selling it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
But then like people immediately ran out to play it, like, oh,
it didn't go off, so they go and help him.
He's still selling like he died. And when it didn't
go off, I don't know why I couldn't just have,
like I don't know, done some different camerang once it
didn't go off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
But yeah, yeah, it's all retrospect too, right, because you
probably that's probably last thing you're thinking about, Like, even
if it goes off, it's not gonna look like this
because the other stuff was working right when they're hitting.
So it's like I think they just thought, ah, it's
all good and then of course just these little pew fireworks.
But yeah, I just like kind in.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Fight Forever, there's like there's like a cheet code, like
an upuff Downtown ab type thing to make do that
before you pick the game ode and it does like
the the Sparklers.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yeah, and they were they were smart. The next Wednesday
they made Callous and Kenny Omega meme it like that's
the classic sixty nine me Dawn, like all this stuff,
Like they were smart. But then that's again where I
wish they were smart with the punk stuff, because where
the punk hat stuff happened, they all became like corporate
all hoity toy businessman. It's like, when did you guys
used to handle like your his fuck ups and stuff.

(01:21:10):
You used to make jokes and used to like make
money off it, But not that time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
But at Michael Nakazawa pouring himself with baby oil because
of the whole slip thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know how much more I need.
Like I was ready for this to be the match
where Darby kills Mosley gets the wind and we move
on and then you start do drama with the death Riders.
I don't need this to go on any longer. Really,
I'm not saying you had to disband the Death Riders
because I think so. I like the Garcia stuff. Also,

(01:21:40):
be to talk about that he officially turned heel. I
hate his gear. There's just like the Jim shorts. He
looks like a geek like, he looks like a loose
like that guy. Luckily he's a heel. You're not getting
over wearing that stuff. You're not seeing Punk in roh okay.
Only he could do the fight choice. That's like, it
doesn't work, you expect. The only time it can work
is if you are a Deacon Batista looking motherfucker. Daniel

(01:22:02):
Garcia is just a really in shaped tone guy, and
that's fine, but you can't be wearing Jim short And
that was always knocking Punk, right. But Punk had this
huge personality, the bleach plumb like, he had a fucking
look to him, where Daniel Garcia is the like white
meat heel like pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
You know, when Punk started off with the Jim shorts,
it was more he looked like, I'm the guy who
is just here to wrestle, Like I can't afford all
the fancy gear, the Tyson things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
This is what I got.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
I got some fucking Jim shorts and some cheap ass
elbow pass.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Which back then I do not like in those shorts,
I do not It just does not work for me.
I've never made a call with those shorts like it
just it looks. It looks like at any point in
the middle of the match, if you're about to lose,
like you just fucking pants you and then roll you
off like and I would do that as a heel.
But uh so I like that. I like that dynamic.
I'm fine what they're doing with the riders. I just

(01:22:52):
don't need dark. I just worry Darby Mos is gonna
go on for like three to six more months, like
four a lot longer, you know, Like Darby's gonna climb
out Everes again and they're gonna kill them, you know.
So let's see we go back to the four way. Yeah,
because we're talking about that this and this is the
thing where it took down points for me too as
far as half with the win. Just weird decision where

(01:23:13):
they do the four way. So it's just Tony Tecla,
Jamie Hayne or Chris Statlander. Chris Statlander gets the win
really at nowhere I thought, yeah, the match was just
kind of fine, just like something was off, maybe the
I don't know if they got I don't. I doubt
in aw at her time cut, but it felt like
it felt like a match where it's like, hey, you
guys had twenty, you got fifteen, soorry like and that

(01:23:34):
happens all the time, right, but I doubt that happen.
It just I'm all we talked about this. I think
on the prediction, I think we're all down for Tony
losing here. But to do the classic, well, she didn't
get pinned, and that's the story, to have her be
the one get pinned. I'm least they are turning Tony
back to like the old school Hollywood Tony storm where
she turns heel and she goes nuts. I don't know why,

(01:23:55):
like half Statland or get that in a one on
one then you know, like I did not like that.
We went through Monett through Athena and it's just this
like quick like bridge pin and that gets her. So
I like sneak pins. Don't get me wrong, but for
Statlander finally to win her first ever aw World title
this way felt very anti climentic, like this could have
been a moment. This could have been like a you know,

(01:24:16):
Top ten women's aw moment, but just kind of out
of nowhere. So I love stat Landard's great that she
has a title, maybe she has a contract coming up
to and Tony knows that the Fed's gonna be after
because I've said before that Statlander hater should go.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Outside of Eddie and bake Bill. This was the shortest match.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Again, it was super Shorty. It was under ten minutes,
wasn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
I got the seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Yeah, and Mone and Rio got sixteen. Come on there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
It felt short.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
And this is one of those that I would have
augmented just a little bit. And the fact that if
you are going to have her pin Tony Storm and
be the new champion, that should be a one on
one crowning match. The only reason to do the fatal
four way is to have either someone else take the
pen or you know, to take her out of the

(01:25:10):
equation altogether. And then Tony continued to be who she is.
But if you're just gonna do hey, this is stat
Lander's crowning achievement, you did not. And the other participants,
as much as I like one and a half of
the other participants, It was not not something that needed

(01:25:32):
to needed to happen there. You could have just done
a one on one. You didn't need all four and yeah,
just just have them go Like I like Jamie Hater,
but it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
This wasn't really a match for her, yea was there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
The weird thing with Hater is they've never played this
up at all. When Hater got injured, they did the
storyline where what the hell was riot and page what
were they again?

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
The outside the outcast something?

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
So they did the storyline where they beat Jimmy Hayter
up backstage, so that Tony Storm when there hit a
couple of storm zeros and beat her right, it was
injury thing where Hayter still accept the match. To me,
I'm not saying you had to make Hater full heal,
but the story is there that, hey, it doesn't matter,
you're a baby face now. A long time ago, you
fucked me over like I you had to cheat to

(01:26:29):
beat me, and I never really lost that title clean.
They've either mentioned it or just great like, oh, well,
you know back and it's like, no, that should be
a moment where it's like I don't care if the
crowd loves you. You fucked me over like everyone and
I like that. I think they could have done more
at that. But that's where it's like Hater did have

(01:26:51):
the urgency to be in this match, they just didn't
give it to her. They didn't explain that storyline that
and to me, that's I thought what they were gonna go.
I thought they were gonna flip Hater back to heel
because she would lose this and would be like fuck
this person, like they keep they keep making me lose
and I should never lost. But it's just Statlander. And
what bugs me about Statlander is they did the same
thing with her and Jade, where Jade I can't remember

(01:27:12):
David who she versed, but it was a pay per
view and Jade was like the longest reign TVST champion.
She had a match and then after she's like, if
anybody else back there in the wear like the warehouse,
the longer room things they could beat me, step up,
and Chris Lander came out, hit a couple moves and
finish her and beat her. So they did like a
cash in and it was like why and it would
like to protect Jade, but then guess what happened with

(01:27:32):
Jade she came back, she wrestled Chris Statlander, and then
she fucking left, so you didn't have to protect her
at all. So it's like two times with Statlander when
she's had her big moments, it's like, it's weird she
doesn't have like that moment like that, like hanging at
it all in like wow, she finally did it. Like
it's just super super odd, even though I like Statlander, right,

(01:27:53):
So I don't know. I really don't know. And we've
bitched about this before. I wish they just kept Statlander
heal them the heel winning this way. It would have
worked if she would have grabbed the tights or something,
because they had something cooking with Statlander as a heel.
She beat Will Niney on that like whatever weapons match,
and she was she was really working and then like yeah,
she's a bay face again. It's just whoever is booking?

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
And see I.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
Think that that Chris or the Chris and Jade and
the Tony and Jamie like angles were on the same show,
because I just really that's because it's double double or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Who did you?

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
Twenty three she fought Ti a valkyrie. No, they're literally
there one there, one, there one match apart, like it
says Tony Ruby, soho uh, and Soriah defeats Jamie Hayter
in three minutes for the title. Then there's a House
of Black Trios match. Oh that's the one where where

(01:28:53):
Max Caster said a Buddies being cooked by Dominic And
then after that, yeah, and then after that you have
Jade defeats Taia and then Chris defeats Jade in.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Fifty seconds pay per view.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
This is like the infamously bad like this one has,
like the Adam Cole versus Jericho match.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Else four Pillars match.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
I like that match. I'm a defender.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
That the anarchy and the Yeah match, I'm actually defender
of the Pillars.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I I enjoyed the Pillars match, and it's MGF kind
of being like a comedy champion. But I'll defend that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Those those like angles were on literally the same show,
like one match apart.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
So yeah, again, that always just has to be one
of aw's weakest thing, right. They got a lot of talent,
but the women they have an issue with booking sometimes.
But we'll go back.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
So what do you think this is this important announcement
from Tony Kahan.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Because some of the speculation.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
I've seen it's like either like the women's tag titles
or they're announcing like a women's Continental.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Class give me the CC for sure. I've also seen
people talking about being a men's tag SEC, which I
don't want, but people just talk about because there's so
many men's tag team right now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Also, the same people like Tony like announces like that,
like Revolution twenty twenty seven, like the counter Show for
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
He talked about, Oh yeah, Tony doesn't always have a good.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Track record with announced sinse was like tickets were all in,
are on sale, and it was just like a backstage segment.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
It's tough because he did stop doing them, so I
think they realized, hey, this isn't People are getting too
hype for what they think.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
So he hasn't, especially after the Christian Cage thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Now that that ended up working out pretty well, but
at the time, so he hyped that we've got this
new signing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
It is a Hall of Famer. He's gonna change.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Quality because he's all it's the biggest thing, like, oh,
it's like we've got someone we're bringing him in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
And this was before the punk he came back. Lot
of people were.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
And everyone was like, who could it be?

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Future Hall of Famer feature, this all these great things,
and then it it's Christian Case and he comes out,
he looks, he does the he signs his contract, and
then he.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Walks right back to the was in the minority as
I'm a massive vegan Christian fan. I was fucking hype,
but yeah, Twitter did not share my sentiment. I was
like just Christian. But like they said, it end up
working out because Christian Case became one of their best
heel characters of all time for that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
But it was weeks of We've got this future Hall
of Famer coming, it's gonna change everything about And it
was around the time that the elite were like starting
to get into their heel stuff and Kenny was getting
into his heels stuff and he's like, we've got someone
who's gonna come in and he's gonna turn aw round
and bubb blah and yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Like the John Morrison a W debut because like the
Titan sewn pops on it says like Johnny elite and
even the AW account tweeted like Johnny Gargano.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Is, Yeah, that was that was brutal. That was brutal
all over because it was Gargano, which you could argue
maybe should have made the jump, and brutal because like
anytime John Morrison's on my screen, I turned the channeled off.
Most one of overweight wrestler of all time, top five
over a wrestler of all time. I remember when this

(01:32:16):
fucking guy was John Morris and Pele were saying, he's
a next Shawn Michaels. Give me a break, man. This
guy he can flip, that's what he can do. He flipped,
and he has great apps. He has fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Definition of a spot monkey. They talk about like the
young fucks and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
No, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
He's there for the spots, He's there for the moment
outside of that. Like I've never thought, man, this is
a legitimate contender.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
I mean, two thousand and nine to twenty eleven, people
are pushing this guy like he's the fucking next Messiah.
I never understood it. I just never never got it.
Just oh yeah, but yeah. Back to Afley mentioned Christian cage.
There you had a Christian cage and Cope, I don't
know what the hell they're called themselves. It's Christian Edge

(01:33:03):
Christian FTR and I said this last gimmick and I'm
happy was this an Ald timer? No, this reminded me
of the Mixed Tag where they did some wrestling, but
then the back half's just a lot of fun spots,
counters Beth stokely and funny, the same thing. Like near
the end they started doing like spots with the announced
table this like it was here really similar what was
going on? But to me, I said, all I need

(01:33:26):
this to be is like a four out of five
and Edge is not completely washed. And guess what, my friends,
Edge is not completely washed. Now he should probably stay
in the tag division. I said, there's a couple like
Omega Swerve mgff. There's a few more singles, but to me,
you can do like a fun semi moment cinematic match
there they there's a good time and I was actually
kind of happy. Sounds bad, but I was happy when

(01:33:47):
they all drove Beth because like I think, I'm down
for them to do a couple like a series of
these with different STIPs and everything. So I enjoyed this
a lot as a great opener and I I had
lots of fun with this. I'm happy he was because
I were there. It could have been Moxley like there's
a world where this is a two yeah, because people
were talking about Ed was like no, no, no, he's still

(01:34:09):
He's still the one.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Who was like yeahs and Adam.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
That was that was probably next to Omega my most
anticipated EDGE match, because he killed it with Roman, he
killed it with Seth and I'm like, oh, I wish
he met Max like two years earlier, like when Max wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Like like like now, yeah exactly, like just the wrong time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Maybe they'll run it back with the Edge and Christian
versus the Death Writers. But no, this was just like
a fun oprah. That's all. It wasn't That's what I
need to be in. I do hope that Beth is
actually signed. I don't think she is, but i'd like
to see her wrestle like a couple people. But uh,
we didn't even get her versus Ria one on one,
so I don't even know if she's that interest in
doing much wrestling other than the odd you know, mixed

(01:34:51):
tag here and there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
So yeah, the appearances or you know, coming in and
helping out a little bit is all I really see
her doing. I I will say that FCR were the
perfect opponents for this returning as in Christian because they
have the old school wrestling feel when the match needs
to slow down, they could do it and it would work. Okay,

(01:35:12):
we're gonna get into the technical aspect of it. Like
they were separating Christian from getting back to the corner
and they were using old school just tag team to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Lose eight nineties type of rep.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Yeah, but I think that that worked because a those
you're slowing down with the moves and the time between moves,
so that's giving Edge time to catch his breath, I
mean Christian time to catch his breath. And then once
they do get the tag and things like that, Edge
comes in, he comes in hot before again they FGR
takes back control and it's given now Christian time to
be on the outside catch his breath, and it never

(01:35:47):
looks like there is a break in the action because
this is how these moves work. This is how these
mechanics work for these guys. So yeah, they were the
perfect him back in. I will say, out of everything,
you've got people singing Copeland's theme song, you got all
these moments, but the crowd chanting no host to Stokely

(01:36:14):
and that he's our father to Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Yes, sure did they already make a Christian father shirt?
If not, they should have at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
I am just the fact that even as the baby
face of this, his heel tactics or his smug asshole
nature is still getting over it is just great.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah, we didn't talk about it. We talked about a
little bit, but I've they talked about in some interview
where they thought that was a fun dynamic. And I
actually like that Christian is just still fucking screw your dad, Christian,
like because that's what we always said, like it would
feel very odd for him to be like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Vitu, And yeah, it just didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
It didn't work because the way they set up the story,
like Christian was a piece of shit with his state,
like there's no way you can redeem the this guy
was like making jokes about this guy's dad and banging
his mom, Like, hey, I fucked like that. You can't
you can't, Like, I don't know. It's just so I'm
happy they've done this. And uh, and I think you
might get a little bit more babyface now that they
beat down Beth. I could see a little bit that dropping.

(01:37:16):
But that makes sense storyline wise now, right, because like, hey,
you know you put your hands on my best friend's wife, Like,
you can't do that, even though Joe Christian said he
would like sleep with that. It's like this is like
a different level right where it's like, yeah, I was
just making jokes, but you you actually heard her.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
So I got a you know, so yeah, I put
the T shirt in uh our gimmick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Group chat of the Christian is my Father t shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Terrible shirt though, like I would never buy that, but
like I'm glad that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
There's a there's a Nick Queen's Mom shirt out there too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
The god Any thoughts about the mat chress bubs.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Uh No, I thought it was a fun time. Yeah,
I definitely got the crowd hyped and I enjoyed. Yeah,
they're definitely gonna gonna run it back, and yeah, I
worked well because because I just said, like he this
was obviously teaming with FTR and having a match against
them was something he wanted to like and when he
was in WW that was like one of the things

(01:38:15):
he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
So all those old timers, they were like offestly because
they're all time, but all those guys really like FTR,
Like Orton was a big fan because I don't know
if you saw they were before FDR didn't sign, they
were running with like an ordon FTR group and they're
like a faction for like I think like three to
four weeks and then they didn't resign. But like even
Punk right, Punk's good friends with them, Like you know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
The story I heard on did you watch the that
Tokyo tape video.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
That no I haven't, Actually no, I watched.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
An FTR were talking about specifically the reason how they
got their releases actually because of FTR ftr KO because
basically they they caught like I forget like some other
wrestler in Wa told them, like you know, like a
lot of your copyrights are like not copyright, like you
can just copyright these yourself before he does. And so

(01:39:08):
they got a bunch of copyrights relating to like Randy
or in an FTR type stuff, and they're like, we're
not gonna give them back unless you give us our release.
So they're like, fine, well, like you like, we'll give
you FTR KO and like all this other stuff if
you give us a release and we keep FDR o.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Ces and that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
And they got no not compete like they said, they
could have shown up on Dynamite like the week of
but I think the week they got released was like
the week they got the release like themselves was like
the week of COVID stuff. They could have shown up
like if they wanted to, but they decided to like
take two weeks off or something like that, and just
then was when COVID hit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Yeah. No, it was a fun little team. But yeah,
because that was the time that Randy Warton was also
free agent, and then the rumor was that he was
using Tony Kahan to get the price of and then
Tony exposed that on Twitter and then they gotten a
whole argument, and yeah, it was It was a whole
moment where Tony and Randy On are tweeting back and
forth at each other, just dropping bombs on each other.
But uh, yeah, I think Randy made the right choice.

(01:40:14):
I don't think a W is the don't be wrong.
There's some great bangers he would have had in a W,
but I think, uh, I think people would have turned
on And then yes, yeah, I agree, it would have
been like a short, two young, two year contract and
you know, I.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Don't know what he would have been doing, Like who
do you have been?

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Like Cody Randy would have popped his shoulder back out
of place and stayed home.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
They would have ran that. They would have done Cody
and Randy app for sure for like the T and
T title, they would have done that. And actually at
that point was Kenny heal Champ in COVID, I think,
so that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
It was during COVID that ever, it was during the
backend of COVID that everything really popped off with him
being killed.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Yeah, let me let me find out because like that
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Because that was also during the time that the whole
h impact stuff happened as well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
So it ended in two thousand no, so yeah, it
was near them, but it ended in twenty twenty one.
So right, we were just talking about COVID in December
to twenty one, so you know, you would have got
a Revolution poster with fucking Kenny Omega inside and RANI
on once I they for sure it ran in Kenny's
title run. Absolutely, they would have done Randy and Kenny
and whatnot, and that would have paid. That would have bang.

(01:41:33):
And that's what I love too that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Yeah, I wish because pre COVID n Yeah, pre COVID,
Kenny was losing to Jericho and then going going.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
To the Bucks and him jobbed, and that I agreed
with and other people that for the first couple of
years of aw A subs like anytime the Bucks and
Kenny would job in big matches, they would and they
lost a lot, and it was like, dude, you guys,
can't you guys gotta stop. Like Kenny lost, ye, he
lost Jericho pak and mad like he's losing everything. It
was like, what do you do? Like the Bucks lost

(01:42:06):
to the Private Party in the first take team tournament
and I was fine that at the time, but then
they kept losing, so.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Yeah, yeah, and then he ended up going on the
tag team run with Hangman for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Which, yeah, that really helped big time because that was
a big moment for then. That Bucks match was big.
But I think it's just because even Cody, right, he
did that match with Jericho that if I lose, I
can't challenge for the title. I think they were just
all super scared of being the EVPs and everyone fucking
hating them by like year on top. But business has
shown from the seventies to the nineties even now, so

(01:42:38):
it's like that was usually the smartest thing was like
when Dusty was booking, why was he the champ because
he knew he was gonna show up. He knew he
was a draw, and he knew he didn't have to
worry about being like holding himself up. So like that
was a mistake. Cody did too. Cody was white hot
in AW and they should have never done that for
and Cody said that was his idea. That was a mistake.
They should have never tooken the title opportunity way because yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
They looked more at it like the Vince Russo or
Jeff Jarrett's style of booking, where I'm the bookers from
the champion too.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Right, you know the booker. That was the whole thing
of look at Triple H.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
He's damn Nash and Hull Cogan all that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Like I get you not wanted to get to be
known in that instance, but man, you're Kenny frickin' Omega.
For you to be the inaugural AW champion, no one
would have batted an I. You had been tearing it up.
It's not like you guys were just some random upstarts.
You have been tearing it up in Japan for years.

(01:43:35):
You were a legitimate contender. No one would have batted
an I if that was the case.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
This is how you plant your flag.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
We got number thirty entrom the Rumble Jerich was your
first ever aw champions We got that coming up. Oh
let's see next. We had I have not much say
a Kingston, Big Bill a mess, a big mess. Big
Bill was not ready for the spot. And I'm not
saying it's all in big Bill kinks. And there was
times where like that fallaway slam they kept going for
is like stop, like they did it twice and it's

(01:44:05):
like either big billion or strong enough or Eddie's non
shape enough. It was this felt like a match if
I was watching, These guys aren't even ready to be
on the main roster. Everyone has a bad day of
the office, right but and man, the fish.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Completely, he completely, I don't care what he missed, like
oh he got a little bit of the chin, you
know he missed.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
He right, he's doing his best thing. Because that was
the end. Like what should have happened is Big Bill
should have kicked out and someone should have said do
it again, like hit me again? Like it was for
all around. How they brought Eddie Kingston back. This was
It's not like, oh my god, all Timer, but it's
just like, yes, super underwhelming, Like they should have just

(01:44:52):
had him fucking in the Moxie match helped Darby do something.
Get a pop there, like the fact that it's there's
this Bill up, big Bill out of all people call
him out, the match is bad, and then him and
Hook come out together as a team. Hooks get no reactions.
We don't need this guy. A couple of years ago
was versing some Ojoe. You watched that match. That crowd
was hot. People were wanting Hook to beat some Ojo

(01:45:12):
for the a W World Championship. This guy gets crickets
now from everything that's happened, the theme, how they've booked him,
and now it's like Eddie's the mentor, Like this whole
second match, bad stuff going on. Oh yeah, he's a
spider Man MS. It's like, why is it always some
adult watching Peter Parker.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
You know, it made sense when he was a part
of Team Task that made sense, But then anything after that, Yeah,
you're always under the wing of someone and it's just
it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
I will see this.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
I'll hook in the ups.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
Outside of this match, I will say for the show
as a whole, because talk about this match made me
think about this. Daniel Bryant on commentary is absolutely amazing
from a peer, not only from a This is why
these moves make sense, This is why wrestler A is
doing this, or this is the what's in their mind

(01:46:10):
and things like that, But just from the way that
he would get animated about some moves, the way he would,
you know, explain various things. He's like, that took my
breathway he's like, or that made me think about when
this happened to me, and you know, I was having
a stinger down my neck for the next three days.
Like those those tidbits put such legitimate c on a

(01:46:32):
lot of these matches.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
This match, not so much because.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
It sucked, but like literally this was a one and
a half star match, even.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Though the botch though with him calling that that's a
smart thing to be like, oh no, I think he
hit him right on the chickens, like Tony should never
just said he missed, Like I was like, what the
fuck you doing, Tony, Like don't like come on now,
but no. And the good thing is Brian he can
be entertaining too, Like it's hyperbolic. But if Brian gets
a long run, he could be a top three or commentary.
He just has everything he his and we all knew
that because remember he did the cruiseweight classic back in

(01:47:03):
the day. Who did he do that with? Who's on
the booth with him?

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
I think it was like like Marrow.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Yeah, okay, yeah that makes sense. It could have been
Nigel too, Yeah it could have been, but he was great.
Then he just gets a perfect sense. He's respected, so
people like believe what he's saying. So yeah, no, he's
he's a delight. I'm surprised he's full time. I thought
he's gonna take full time pe like PPVs. But the
fact he's full time, full time is nuts. And I
I do love any time, like we didn't talk about

(01:47:31):
like in the Moxie match and he like fucking like
gives him a bag like it's drugs, Like hey, look
at this, he like sides and overything goes back to
doing his jobs. Like That's why I love You can
constantly have these little moments like yeah, I was ready
for him. Jeff Bryant too when he was living off
and they just go Brian, he says, he's so like
Brian's so good, sound like he's gonna get up and
start kicking him and that's gonna happen. It's just like

(01:47:51):
they did like the whole trope of somebody getting bullied. Yeah,
at one point he's gonna stand up and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
You know what Box is gonna like, I don't know,
like he has like Darby wrapped and like some yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Or what I've said before. It sounds stupid, but if
they ever turned the deaf Ris ever turn on Moxley
and they're destroying him, I could see Brian make this
say for Maxes like they started to get like, yeah, there,
there's he's a good person to have there as five
star classic for you. You're saying, I'm drop kick.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
I don't think I even rated this.

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
I was like barely paid, Like I literally looked away
and like no, Big Bill was down and Edie tops.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
It's like a one point five. In my opinion, this
was not good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
This was Yeah, that's where I have it as as
a one point five.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
I want to see what's ranked on drop Kicker, and
I don't even know what's on cage match. I'm sure
on cage matches.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
The highlight of this was Eddie Kingston's shirt on his entrance, like,
and it was all from there.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
Yeah, Age has a four point one four point.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
One, and then drop Kicks is a two point one,
so it's not like the same. Yeah, yeah, about the same.
I was trying to see, there is a cup someone
had to meet. There's one five star on Dropkicks. Someone
has to be men. That has to be a joke.
Let's see. Uh Mark brisco versus mgf Uh. This was
more fun than I thought. I was like, what they're
gonna do for table tax s? Bubbs, you said perfect

(01:49:14):
the discord that for the first half was just a
body slam challenge, and it was great because you have
Mark Briscol who's a crazy character and mgf who could
just sell anything of what the fuck like all this
stuff like it ended up being really good and kudos
to these two guys. And because many wrestlers have said,
like the thumb tag spot fucking just sucks, it's so
the fact that they did like four to six both

(01:49:35):
the thumbag spots. And I love that the ref had
the goggles and the.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Yeah Bryce has the welding gloves all padded up, He's
got the goggles off.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
So this felt like it wasn't a comedy match because
it did turn, but it felt like it had enough
is that it was a comedy match kind of done.
Ryan got dramatic, which they've done before like Brisco. Yeah,
so no.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
I a wacky yeah, but he can still get serious
and I.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
Kind of hope they do. Like an MGFF losing streak
for now because David you brought up you didn't pick
him because he thought, well, he's not gonna lose twice.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
But even it was like since he lost the title,
he can now lose to Britain.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Yeah was my thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Plus he should get some come up ands for like
the brother jokes or not the joke, but just saying
you should die and say your brother and stuff. So
but I wouldn't mind if MGFF just like because that's
the best thing is he has that contract. He still
has a title shot, so he could lose a bunch
of be like Okay, I'm gonna cash it in and
I could legitimately see the next time his contracts up,
them doing like a summer of MGFF of like he's
gonna hint that he might be out of there, and

(01:50:35):
that's where it fits of like next week, I'm challenging
so and so for that title and if I win,
I'm taking Like.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
It's like I think they is like up like in
a week and the night after like a week from yes,
for the title or something.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
And it would fit because why would Tony call and
give that guy a title shot?

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Well, because he has to because that so I would
be fine if M Jeff goes a little losing streak
now you know, and they.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Just maybe like like off for a while. I mean
I know, because some stuff. And yeah obviously he's.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
In Violent Night too, right yeah, so and they.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
Just story good type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
And I think so yeah, so no fun match for me.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
Well yeah, he has to take us his honeymoon now
because he showed up religions night after.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Here is the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
This is the mess that I said demand.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Yeah, this one did not to be on here.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
This was to Kahn.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
They like I'm telling you, they do not draw like
just because people chance we hurt people. No, this is
pretty show. They must have something. Yeah, they showed that
the Bucks did start it. You know, like I don't
like I just I yeah, I'm don't want I was
liking a couple. I was like, I fought, I legitimately

(01:52:02):
finally started to like the m JEF hurt sending and stuff,
and then they just randomly ended it two weeks after
I liked the triple threat tags just two tags team
up there and hurtsnicket, But we're just back to where
we are. I don't know. This act to me just
does not justify a pay per view spot. I'm not
saying get rid of them.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Just like, looking at the match graphic, I was like,
this is a zero hour.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Match, Yes, why is this here? Like good, so shut
out the win cool.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
I hate, says, but a good friend of mine set
that they felt like this match was here because Tony
Kahan is still thinking about the fact that they set
that Triple h doesn't book black people in his payer
per reviews, so he booked all his healthy black people
and the match or give them or give.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Me put them all in one.

Speaker 7 (01:52:44):
Match, just give them a stip and like half like
it's just like, I don't know, just do something more
creative with the hurt syndica then you know, and enough
with this, like well damn, you have to think sto
because they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Want to do business with them, fuck the what like
fuck that like don't want to do business with him?
You're the booker man. This fun stuff of like get
him in a room, sit them down, like and like
what like it has Bobby light lastly threatened his life
and so like I'm gonna I don't know MVPs Like
remember I went.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
I went to prison for nine years, so you know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Yeah, like that's I mean, what's happening. I don't know. Uh.
We talked about mercees Rio already. This match. It ended
up being good Oca Takesha and Dorada, but I still,
in principle do not like that they had O caught
in Takesha to touch before save this for the one
on one duo caught in Derada do Taqusha Dorada on dynamite.
This was good, but I just don't you know this,

(01:53:41):
This was like a three point five. There are some
fun spots, Ocada took some actual bumps, but uh yeah,
I just didn't like. I said the match in concept
for me, so uh yeah, good enough for me. What
do you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Think I would have rather this had been either Takesha
not in this match or Kada not in this match.
I could see more of Dorata and takesh To going
with Okada literally sitting there at ringside like as a
constant prop of whoever, whoever, when's this gets the shot

(01:54:12):
at Okada and there's all as Takeshta is doing moves
against Dorado, he's looking back at Okada like your next,
like that they're feeding into these We're on the same team,
but we're not on this side.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
I want what you have and just having that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
So they have some back and forth, and then you know,
Dorota does some things and you see Okada reacting like
he's got that shitty grin, like hey, if he beats you,
I don't have to face you, so you better get
your stuff together, like have.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
I don't think that they should have faced each other yet. Again,
just like I said about other match, like save just
like I said about Christett Lander and Tony Storm, save
that big match. If you want to have them do this,
save it for there. The ending was predictable. I'm like,
all right, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
No one did.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
They're great, are gonna win in the triple and Deront's
not fucking winning, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, great, workers great.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Everything that they did in the match was amazing. Just
the match itself did not make sense, didn't need it
on this streight review.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
Event Collision, there you go, even Dynamite, you know, like
have a hey, we're gonna give you a cool three
point seventy five like fun triple threat match. Okay, sure
do it on Collision, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Hadn't thought of the idea of just making like a
number one contenders match, But I think I would have
liked that a lot, especially if you have a cought
at ringside with like the you know, like Mercedes Money
set up with like a steak and wine and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
Just watching this match.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Yeah, even him grabbing the headset on the commentary and
like just go a bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
Yeah, but yeah, overall I did probably Dorata is like
really fantastic fin this crazy stuff, and to Keshta, I'm
a big fan, But yeah, I agree. I do think
it was sort of like weird to like sort of
do the match already even though it's not the match
of Kesha and Okada.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
But maybe it's just because I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
Know, maybe the actual match isn't happening for like a
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
That's what I think, And that's it's like, well, what's
the point of all this, then you know, it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
Like we're like, maybe this is like a wrestle dynasty
match or something, because I think they're doing that again
this year, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Think, so, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
That's like in like three months from now or something.
But even then, like that's not that long if you
want to like, but.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
That's fine, that's fine. I just or I were like,
if a tournament comes up something where they get delayed,
I guess we have to wait and see what happens
with Takesha and the g One and Wressell Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
And I guess what's the Continental like with the Unified
title now being like, because I assume the Continental now
is not as complicated and it's just gonna be like
a number one contenders, like you win the tournament and
you get a shot at the title. Because before it
was like the person with the title was in the
tournament and if like if they didn't make the finals,

(01:57:17):
they like automatically vacated the title, and it was all
like confusing. So I think now it should be simpler.
But I assume like Takesha is probably gonna be like
in the Condinal Classic again.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Yeah, and I'd be down if they did that, and
if they make the finals, Okada Takeshta and Takesha gets
to beat Like they keep saying he's the best tournament
restler of all time. Right, Well, wouldn't that be a
fun way for to Cash to get that win. So again,
I'm down for the vision. It's just like this felt
like a weird like side quest that we went on
before the mission.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
It's like a weird like felt more like they want
to Okada like on the show and they're like, which
you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Always need because he's always delivering like ten stuff anymore,
you know. So yeah, let's see after that. Yeah, we
talked about Dosy maxleyn Now we talked about the four
way a ladder match. I thought was really fun. The
ladder match near the end had some spots where like
Speedball almost shattering his ankles. Man that was that was dangerous.

(01:58:17):
But I there was like a five minute portion which
I enjoy the Rock Triple H one, I enjoy the
ben Wa Jericho one. I love ladder matches, whether it's
not spots, it's just people beating each other with the ladders.
And at the point when Josh Alexander took over and
it was just a lot of that and I enjoyed that.
So it's like we kind of had like fast paced
action and we had like the ladder beat down, and
then we had like the car crash element. So this

(01:58:39):
was like a really fun, enjoyable ladder match. I am
all on the hype for Brodido, like obviously Ben Dil's
in a great year, but and Brodie King I've always liked.
But I like that they won here and that's good.
I think that they will probably lose those titles to
FTR I bet, and then that's how you get FTR
versus Edgie Christian. But no, I thought this was really fun.

(01:59:01):
I mean talk about the post match, the thing after.
But what do you think, David of the ladder match?

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
It was a fun match, like they really put on
a show.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
I I love the young bucks in any type of
ladder match, so you know that that's always fun to watch.
Speedball Mike Byley and Kevin Knight never come across to
me as the contenders for champions, but they also they
can do the spots. They can be there for various

(01:59:30):
things that are just fun. Same thing with Hechestero and
Josh Alexander, Like they're they're there to to fill up
this car crash of moments, but yeah, they still all.
I mean, Josh Alexander is an incredible wrestler, so even
with that, they were doing some some amazing stuff and

(01:59:52):
man bandido is amazing. I really do wish that they
would remind people more that he is top guy in
Ring of Honor. But him and Brody King together is
just that they're fun to watch, and Brodie King throwing

(02:00:12):
himself about and the way that he did.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Some of these bumps for just great.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
And then we get to the ending, which was just
the aftermatch portion of this was just yay everything.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Hashtag tras was wrong. I said this in discord. I
didn't think it would work. Let's see long term how
it goes. But they've been Jesus Jack Perry thing and
even in this match, the Young Bucks at one point
they had the nick ran up for the titles and
the crowd was cheering, so it's like, okay, Bucks have
won the crowd back Perry gets there, it's like a pop.
But I'll give them kudos to to me, it's all
about the presentation and them doing this video where he

(02:00:49):
literally dak Perry like resurrects like Frankenstein's Lucasaurus really fun.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
It's really cool.

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
So they played that video already like when Lucasaurs came back,
but like without Jack, Like it was purposely edited, like
you would only see like his hands are like the
hair and stuff. So people were like theorizing it was
him and like he had the jacket on and stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:01:10):
But this like the full version.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Yeah, and you know what, I because I thought they
were gonna put them together and I thought, cause the
bucks were getting popa, this might be the wrong move.
But this is where all again comes down to, like presentation.
Right when we took about like Statlander winning the title,
like anything could be a big moment or man moment.
The fact that they they the beatdown's happening, the lights
go out, the video reveal, Lucasaurus comes in there looking
he's always he's always been big, but he's big right now.

(02:01:34):
They take all the bucks, they hug and then they
had that theme ray to go. They they nail it
to me. It is all about the fallow up because
Jack Perry's kind of like Sammy Givaro. I feel like
the aw audience has like a very weird relationship with him.
I like Jack Perry, was he like a little shit
back in the day of the punk stuff? Sure, but
like Punk was a little shit too. People like to
normalize Punk going backstage just like trying to get in fights.

(02:01:57):
Like both of them were little shits. They're both like
having high school drama with each other over glass, Like
no one was the adult in the room here. So
that's where it's just like when you're like, oh my god,
like Punk was the same way, like he was taking
the same shots back in the day when he was right.
If Perry the level of talent with Punk is no,
he's not. But this could work. It's gonna be interesting

(02:02:17):
to see that. I hope he doesn't come out with
like like no more, like he can't do the lolling
cloth and like the cheetah print, like he can't do
jungle Boy, but he has to like Jungle Man. He
has like to find like a variation of it. But
I'm I'm interested to see how they do it. And
I love that. Hey, this is like another tag team
feud that is has a storyline for not the titles.
Right you got FTR and Chris Edge and Chrish Right

(02:02:38):
now you got this and it worked. But for me,
it is about the week's fall up of Cake and
the crowd stay together. Where on the same coin we
talked about this last episode, what they're doing the Acclaim
dead on arrival, the whole calling out like, oh, you've
been floundering, Anthony Bones. It's like you had him lose
to a couple of people. There's no push there. Max
Caster is doing thing like they to me, it's just like,

(02:03:01):
it's so funny this company where this jungle boy thing.
This is a bad idea and they do it. It's like, man,
they above expectations, this Acclaim thing. It's like no one
wants the claim back to get like that's where again
it's all fault. But I thought it was a really
great moment and we'll see. I hope they pulled together
and they can get over. And I think they both
need this. Lucasaurus needs this and Jack Perry definitely he

(02:03:22):
needs some good will. But they tried to Like this
reminds me of Sammy Gavarro when they had him turned
on Jericho. Andon's like, oh, this could be the the moment,
but then like three months later, one's like, I still
fucking hate Szamon Gavar. So it's like, was this just
for the moment or people back on the Jack Perry page.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
You know, I don't know with the LF I on right.

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
Yeah, I do nothing, just waiting for his contract to
come up.

Speaker 5 (02:03:44):
And I don't even I don't think.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Like to me, Samy Govarro is like end up in
TEENA in my opinion, I don't think that's gonna go
after him.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
I could be wrong, could be wrong. I mean, they
want some of a job on NXT, but uh, yeah,
we'll see and then yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:59):
We had that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Paige Kyle Fletcher, can you talk a little about the
beginning anything more on this match? Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
Like I said, they did great with this match. I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:04:13):
From the moment that they immediately locked up, just the
way that they work together. These two worked seamlessly. I
was kind of concerned because while Hangman is a lot
lighter on his feet, he does work a more heavier
style and has been especially since some of more of
his opponents lightly. At no point did Fletcher seem just

(02:04:35):
out of his element with this, And to me, this
was the opposite of the brock Lessener John Cena match,
where you've got this quick, let's boom, conflicting styles.

Speaker 2 (02:04:49):
We're going to get this over with.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
Where man, they were just having fun with this and
Fletcher was taking some bumps that scared me at points,
but also he was hitting some high flying moves and
man Daniel Brian on commentary during this thing, the excitement
that he showed, the crowd popping for the near falls,

(02:05:10):
everything else, it's and it feels like Hangman walked away
from this feeling like he is strongest champion, and Kyle
Fletcher looked like, okay, even though he takes his loss,
like we were talking earlier about having, you know, two
people who take loss, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
He took this loss.

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
He can go back to doing everything that he's doing
in the TNC Championship and it not miss a beat,
not be oh, well, you lost against hang Man so
you shouldn't be champion. No, he's still again great. But
that avalanche dead eye from the middle turn buckle and
the way that Fletcher hit I was I was like,

(02:05:50):
oh man, please be okay, Please be okay.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Folded in a half, but please be okay.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
They gotta get him some wins now though, because like
he did lose his champion right, and I'm with you,
where never a fan of that, so we'll see what happens.
But no, really great match they delivered. Fletcher is the
real He's the real deal. I think we talked about
his last episode or a couple of times, but Tony
was very smart to make sure he re signed him
right away because I said this before. If he was
free agent, WW would have fucking gobbled that kid up,

(02:06:17):
and I think I pushed him well. I don't even
think it's a bad thing. I think they would have
he very much. I think Miles was Born is probably
pretty lucky that they didn't sign him because he's almost
like the better version of that because like Kyle flesher Man,
he did the whole thing where he like he shaved
his head and the shape he's in, his phenomenal, how
toned he is everything this show that he can hang.
I think the only problem with this match was other

(02:06:38):
than one spot with that counter, it no one believe
Kyle's won this match right like that wasn't gonna happen,
So I think it was fun for the good rookie upstart,
so they had to make sure, Hey, let's go have
an amazing to me, this is like a four point
five match where let's have an amazing match where the
drama's not out there. We don't have weapons, we don't
have a big stipulation, but let's just go out there
and wrestle. And you know, they say we're the best wrestle, right,

(02:06:59):
So that's what you got to do. And I appreciate that.
I'm surprised Hangman won on last So yeah, Kyle, I
think in the next two years will be champ. He's
gonna carry that whether he defends against Austprey or beats Osprey,
like I think it's one of those two. But no,
Kyle did a phenomenal job hang Man. You know, that's
my next Omega, that's my guy in aw. I love
this character. But with that being said, I do think
now it's gonna be interesting where he beat Moksley and

(02:07:21):
then the next story was like, oh, I beat up
and comer. I'm very curious what they're gonna do with
him because I think with that happened with the first
Hangman title run, where the first few months they had
a lot of great story stuff for him, and then
the middle stuff was just kind of like Challenger the
month and then the punk stuff. Obviously a lot of
bad stuff happened, but the actual story was good, So
I just want them consistent. So I think they need
to find obviously won't be swerved, but they need to

(02:07:43):
find like a next swerve, and they need to find
like another like rival, because like I didn't like Kyle Fletcher,
but it wasn't like a blood feud, right, Like, I
think they need to find something that Adam Paige can do,
like those very fiery, passionate promos that he's great at.
So I'll be curious what they do next. Is next
his rest dream?

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
And that's kind of like a weird like sometimes it's
a crossover show. Sometimes it's not. Like it's kind of
like The Forbid Doors. So I'm not sure if he
wrestles someone from New Japan, I don't know what the
state is. I don't know who. That's the one bad
thing though. It kind of feels like it's similar to
money where with hanging and I'm wondering who is next
up to line? You know, Like I just don't I

(02:08:22):
don't see.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
A six year anniversary dynamite that I'm gonna be at.

Speaker 5 (02:08:28):
But they usually have like some big truth.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Yeah, and yeah, it could. It could happen. I'm just
wondering who the next guy up in the line is
for him. Obviously it's not Warlow because there's conflicting things there.
Shout to Warlow. I'm not the biggest Warlow family. We
didn't know that last episode that like man came back
towards peck On returned that heartbreaking man that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Yes, that's horrible timing this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
Between all the way back to the MGF stuff to now,
he does have some of the worst luck in like
wrestling history as far as multiple like big push just
like getting capped at the needs for some reason. But uh, yeah,
I really don't know who. I don't know on the
horizon right now with aw but hopefully they uh they
find someone because they did MGF already two they did that,

(02:09:12):
So I don't know, We'll we'll see.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
I'm gonna be Ricochet. It's gonna be Ricochet.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
Good match. I just that's not a story that interests
me at all of like the way I like. Don't
get me wrong, I like Ricochet, like the Psycho Nerd story. Yeah,
but I think to me, the Rickey's character is a
perfect like mid car title guy not world title guy.
Like to me, no, I don't know if I's supposed
to want that. That is like the Dynamite six cent,

(02:09:39):
like he could do a Dynamite aw world title shot.
I don't think he could do like a.

Speaker 5 (02:09:43):
That's like a TV match, like that works.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
Yeah, right now, you really don't have anyone else in
a main event position.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Okay, mjf's going out.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
Do you think they ever give Lashly a world title
shot or gonna be that scares the hell? I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
Let him win the Continental Classic or T T and
T stay away from the if he's willing to do business, sure,
because like surprisingly, I don't know why, but like that's
like I low key, they could have an awful match,
but they could also have a really good match. Lastly
and hang Out, I don't know why they just have
like that biggie meat slap and men type of match,

(02:10:28):
because like Hangman is not like a big guy, but
he is like a he's a broad guy, like he's
a he's a classic GMO bruiser type.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
He is a bruiser.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
And last he's like a heavyweight sometimes giant, so he's
also BRUI class. Yeah, yeah, specialist. He's a specialist, you know. So, yeah,
I suppose, like last he's a good option. That just
scares me. If I'm watching Hangman's second reign end to
Bobby Lashley, that's that that might have been worse than
Mocksley retaining over Hey man, you know, I'm trying to

(02:10:58):
think they can't run back because they did that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
And now I must say I wasn't doing this stuff
with Okata. He would be he would be a great.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Yeah, there's like a draw not yeah, not, let don't
give me Lance Archer again, like unless there's something.

Speaker 4 (02:11:15):
Signing no one else said, like the Don Coals, but
then he already fought Alexander.

Speaker 5 (02:11:19):
Like non title. Yeah he did like takesa for like
we said, I don't think it could happen. He did.

Speaker 4 (02:11:24):
Kyle Flescher and the Red I mean, you have like
Hetches Sarah who's a good wrestler, but he's not really
like established as much I don't think so. And then
below that are like you're in you're entering the job
or tier of.

Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
The of the Jericho Big matches. I must say, Rocky
and Trent Barretta.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
It's gonna be it's gonna be Jericho's return match. That's
how they get him back is because they can tie together. Right,
the first ever title match was those two. I can
Scott see it now. I don't want that, but I'm
just trying to think of any like free signings coming
up to anybody that's like, whether it's New Japan or
anywhere that they might build up. You know what on

(02:12:05):
DRAWD they couldn't make.

Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
Like I don't think he has a non complete.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Because he just know, yeah, he's got a Mexico Mexican.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
We didn't even talk about that, but I don't know what.
The as had the greatest quote on that that he said,
he's widling like the people doing those triple H emails
and Jim Spend because when you get these emails in
the game like this doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't draw
like on draws out there making moves that we don't
even know. But and hey, that would be a drawn

(02:12:37):
hangman would bang. That would be really good. Again, I
think it's like TV. I don't think it's a review.

Speaker 5 (02:12:42):
I don't even know if a like hires and again.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Fightfoel said the rumor was that as long as it
wasn't anything bad wise fired, they're open to business with them.

Speaker 3 (02:12:53):
Yeah, I know there's the rumors of the drug use.
If it's not the drug that I've been seeing in
some of the rumors, So I think if it's just
like other things, he was over it and he didn't
want to go, and he was purposely trying to get
himself fired, which we know and gerate to do purposely
try and get himself fired.

Speaker 5 (02:13:10):
The you know, the the snow man. You know, maybe
he's not mad about that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
He gets it. He gets man, and I understand, Yeah,
a lot of work days, you know. So I'm just
trying to let me just look quickly aw Ross, I'm
sharing of any but and again even.

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
I'm looking that there's not anyone who's not currently involved
in something that that would be anywhere near that top
just returns on TV like this.

Speaker 1 (02:13:37):
Yes, Kenny's the option they could go to, whether he's
face or he and I'm down if they give someone
like a face versus face thing with the hang Man.
But again, even on dry and Ricochet, they could be
on pvv as so longs they're not main eventing, right,
they could do that because Kyle Fletcher, it's like, Okay,
he doesn't have the stock of a star power, but
you can tell he's like building right now, right man

(02:13:58):
two Badi's injured, he'll j right now. Would be the
perfect scenario because they built that story up with them
and then Jayad got injured. That would be really good time.
But I don't know where he is.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
I mean, we've got a returning Pac who could.

Speaker 1 (02:14:13):
Pack yeah, I guess, but then you're back he's back
in the Death Writers Vortex, right, like, don't bet wrong.
That'd be a good match. Yeah, running back in.

Speaker 3 (02:14:23):
Because they were supposed to be they were supposed to
be at the first pay per view, uh to get
or not the first TI.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
They're supposed to be at the second pay per view.

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
They're supposed to be at full gear wrestling at each
other because they had that whole thing on BT about
Hangman needing to lose weight because he didn't look good
because Pak was always walking around in just his tights,
so like they had that whole thing, and then I
don't I think that's when Pac ended up getting injured
or he didn't want to lose because the hole he

(02:14:52):
was dragging Gate champions. Something happened and they ended up
not going at it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
Yes, but yeah they're hurting for.

Speaker 5 (02:15:01):
They are Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
Finally to live that dream. He wants to be a'd be.

Speaker 5 (02:15:09):
I'd be hyper for Jarrett.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
You know what, just get just fall through with the
mone bump. Just give the Beast Mortis. You know, the
Beast Mortis in there. You know, nice three point five.
We're good to go. Rouge is always an option, but like.

Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
Yeah, last he just shoot.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Yeah, No, that's the issue. They need, they need somebody
needs something. And that's why I wonder if either they're
gonna be baby faced babyface or if one of these
baby faces are going to turn, I would be.

Speaker 5 (02:15:40):
So down comes back just the media.

Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
Beats them. Yeah, so yeah, we'll see what I said.
We don't know we're gonna wake to the cards. I
think it's probably more likely we'll probably do a show
on the nineteenth after because then we'll have both Wrestled
Dream and uh Australia to review. Uh so let's see
what is that? That's where are we at now? We're well, right,
we're kind of in an awkward time here because we

(02:16:07):
tried to do every two weeks. So we'll get back
to you because maybe maybe there might be a maybe
there might be a rest yeah maybe, yeah, there might
actually be an Australia show, Like well, yeah, GMO, I
gotta figure out. I'm hoping. My hope was to maybe
do that at some point next weekend, but my next
week is already busy it so I think with GM
mode in the next couple months, there's gonna be one month,
but we'll probably do it two for our one at

(02:16:27):
the beginning and then at the end. I actually think
probably for uh for the rest. Yeah, we'll have to
figure it out because if we do a show after
a wrestle dream, that's like almost a whole month away,
So maybe won't do that. There might be like a
Australia review show, wrestled Dream prediction show, and then something else.
So we'll figure out. So right now not as clear,
so we'll wait to that and yeah, GM mode, we'll

(02:16:48):
try and do and if not, we'll make up for it.
And then, Spops, did you ever do those draft points.

Speaker 5 (02:16:52):
Before we end this episode?

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
What're we sitting at here?

Speaker 5 (02:16:55):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:16:56):
So, okay, David is at three ninety eight total points, uh,
Trams is at six sixty eight, and I'm at six
thirty six.

Speaker 1 (02:17:11):
Still hold that lead right now, Okay, I like it. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:17:13):
So the only one who got main event points for
the PLU this week though is David because he got
that twenty twenty points there foo.

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
Finally yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
Is Cody Yeah, no one has Drew as Drew. Oh yeah,
I guess he was away for a while. I thought
we thought he was gonna be injured, right, So well,
there you go, we're cooking. We Well, our next switch
is coming in November, so obviously big legs between.

Speaker 5 (02:17:37):
Me us switch of leg half half my roster.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
Yeah yeah, well there you goes. So yeah, no, we'll
be back sometime in October, break down, a lot of
big wrestling stuff. Yeah, and we'll be born so see

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