Architecture of Aggression

This week Chris, Rich and Jess talk about : global unrest, the media, and Project 2025. Please follow us on Twitter @genexhaustedpod and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/GexExhaustedPod and download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for visiting. Christopher Media Dot yet.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to gen exhausted them.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Chris, I'm rich, I'm Jess.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's big boy and Dre talk about the bombs over
bag Dad, So Jess, yes, there were some. There were
some bombs over bagged. There were some bombs in the rack.
All I can tell you something happened. They killed the
leader of Hesbela. That what happened.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh, the last I heard was that.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
And I have not stayed very closely caught up with
any of this, but I heard that they killed the
leader of Hamas and Iraq said that they like we
could expect them to take some sort of retaliatory action
or the Israel was going to take some sort of
retaliatory action with Iraq.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I heard it was seen.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Why is it? Why they?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Why they all begin with h? What happened to?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Isis good band? Are it's a good band? I think
it has belo. I think the banded II's first album
come out like late nineties, early two thousands, so they
must have been really bummed about ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, I grew up. Isis was like the Egyptian god
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
God just yeah, and that's what they're named after the
band is named after. It's not named after the Islamic state. Shit.
But yeah, it's just it's just one of those things
like unfortunately, like wow, no one could have really saw
this one coming.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
So I'm seeing different headlines. I'm seeing Israel kills another
Hasbela commander, and then I'm also saying a Hamas leader
is killed in Iran. The Hamas leader was five days ago.
That's the one I knew about. Oh wait ha ha
Israel's assassination of Hamas and has Bel of leaders well backfire.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
So it's both we're both.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Right, Oh okay, cool, yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Okay, okay, that's in the pre show I was talking
about this. There's so much going on internationally that like
none of us are aware of. We're just catching little
like peak throughs of it.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You know, my outgreak.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Showing me Hasbala because I'm Lebanese? What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Why am I getting Amos.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Down because you're you know, you're a white lady.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
For as many leaders want to strive for like a
global village, a global community, we're getting really specifically targeted
news aimed at us, aren't we It's kind of hard
to have a global community. When everybody's getting different information
unless you're true intent is not a global community, it's

(02:35):
just to so hate and discontent.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Ok Because as much as I I mean, I've been
curating my Google News for like damn near a decade,
as far as whenever I see any any any biased
or clickbait headline, I just I get this source out
of here, right, But it's still going to show me
stuff based on what I've clicked on, right, Like, I
can't turn that off.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I've tried, just real quick, I just I've tried
see less of this in your timeline wall, whatever the
fuck feed. I've tried blocking it. It just it'll go Okay,
So you don't want to see this particular profile or
this particular page or this particular source of information. So

(03:17):
we're just gonna show you the same story from ten
other fucking sketchy ass, fucking sources of information.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, because I feel like, yeah, at some point with
the things I block, Google's like, well here's it, and
it's like I've never fucking heard of this, Like what
the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
And why are you trying to force me to fucking
be into this shit. It's like you're like, once again
you're targeted with You're targeted by the algorithm, and the
algorithm is relentless whether it's right or wrong. And I mean,
like I've had the algorithm just fucking just I think
like shotgun me and just be like here, we think here,
we literally call them through your fucking Google history. You
google everything, you read everything, your autistic is, fuck, here's everything.

(03:57):
That's how I ended up with, Like I'm scrolling and
I'm like, I have a fucking a Facebook page. That's
like I have to scroll five times. This is the
long of an article about Charlie Parker in the next
fucking the very next post is just as long as
an article about the Norwegian black metal scene in the
early nineties. Sure, because those two things have anything to
do with each other. Besides, they're both music. You know
what I'm saying. So I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh, I.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Was just just going back over to the Iraq attack.
The article Poem Readings says several US personnels are believed
to be injured following a suspected rocket attack on the
US on US and Coalition forces at Al Assad Air
Base in Iraq. At defense official confirmed to NBC News.

(04:45):
Additional details are not currently available as based off or
conducting a post attack damage assessment. Joe Biden has been briefed.
The attack comes amid growing fears that the Israel Hamas
War will spill over into a wider conflict in the
Middle East following assassinations in Bayroot and Terhran, Terran and Tehran.

(05:10):
I got the I'm very proud. I went through about
twelve mispronunciations in my head of Beirut before we landed
on it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Wow, Hey, there you go, Rich, there's another generational thing, right.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah. We grew up hearing about it to the point
where when I hear beay Root Bakery in Redford, I
think Beyroot all the horror stories I heard growing up
in the news. Yeah, before I even think of that bakery.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
There were times when we were kids they'd be like, oh, Detroit,
that's like Beyroot, Like there's like jokes, Like there were
jokes like that.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, And Beyroot was like one of those places. It
was just like always in the news for like it's
just fucked up. Yeah, it's just fucked up. I mean
it's like, okay, what's going on in Beyroot? Man bay Roots?
Like that one person at the family fit it was
going on with cousin, so so you know he's trying.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
But yeah, but there you go. I mean, you were
born in the eighties. It's not like you were born
like fucking ten years ago. So yeah, but that's crazy that.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah you didn't even twenty nine years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But still, yeah, exactly, I'm sorry, but yeah you didn't.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
At some point there was a time machine that looks
like a DeLorean involved. That's how she was born in
the eighties and still twenty nine. There's her secret, that's
her youthful good.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Look, you're not supposed to tell anybody about that.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
You had eighty eight miles prior. You're gonna see some
serious shit and she'll hit a curb or two when
she parked.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But yeah, I guess, just just yeah, Richie, I did
not grow up like we do. The word beay route anyway,
Sorry that destruction.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Maybe I shouldn't pay attention, but I did not anyway. The
following the assassinations in Beirut and Terran Right, Karen run
Israel and It killed a HESBLA senior commander in a
strike in Levenon. Hours later, is supported It reported the
Hamas political leader had been killed in Iran. Though Israel's

(07:04):
military has not taken responsibility, Iranian officials blamed the country
for the attack. An Israeli official told NBC News on
Sunday that officials were bracing for potential retaliatory attack from
both Hamas and I ran so.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yay, So why were we in Ukraine?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I mean like, this is us inheriting Israel's beef if
I may be so fucking street in my fucking vernacular
with this subject, right, this is this is us going,
Israel is our fucking one of Well, I think Israel
is our strongest ally in the world. Think Great Britain
would give us a fucking argument about that.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, Great Britain created Like, all right, kids, history time again.
Let's just remind the listener that part of the end
of World War Two was Great Britain going, hey, Jewish people,
sorry about the whole world trying to take you out.
Here's your Jewish state. That is why Israel was created.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, I'm just I don't think. I don't I'm just
gonna say I just don't feel like a full blown
war or something that's gonna happen. I just feel it's
gonna be like blow ups and shit, and I think
I don't know, go ahead, I just I need to
process the information a little bit more because.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It just should be off in that part of the world.
Just remember remember the nineties, Remember that thing that the
two thousands. There's a lot of oil over there, that
stuff gets threatened.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
We're getting involved, That's what I'm saying. Like Iraq, did
we fucking take once? Did we hop and said earlier
aforementioned time machine and go back to two thousand and
three spring Bak two thousand and three, Let's invade Iraq,
and then thirteen years before that, let's go invade Iraq,
twelve years whatever. It was early ninety one when we invaded.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, that one, that one was that was that Raq
went into Kuwait and we went, Nous, what are you doing?
Get the fucking stop?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, stop setting sh on stop setting these oil fucking
wells on fire?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah? No.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
The fishy one was the mid two thousands, you know
WMDs where uh who cares get them?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, I mean it was like it was like nine
to eleven for two weeks. It was like the family
Guys skit where you know, uh uh Lois just gets
up there in a nine to eleven. Yeah, and then
it was like, so where are these motherfuckers from Saudi Arabia? Iraq?
Wait tried to kill my from Saudi Arabia? Yeah, but

(09:37):
we need to invade Iraq. That's how that really went.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
But you cooking?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, say where do you tried to kill your five?
But yeah, I mean like it was immediate. I mean
like it wasn't even Christmas and it was like the
war drums were being beat like Iraq was in the crosshairs.
This is why like maybe it's my gen x getting

(10:03):
you know that along with my like my early onset
arthritis is acting up a little bit. But Iraq attacking
us interest anything to do with in the US base.
I just start getting like, oh boy, how fast is
this going to escalate? Because Iraq seems to be America's
punching bag for the last thirty five forty years. Like
when we need to spend money and throw money and

(10:26):
lives into the war, the gears of the war machine,
Iraq will do nicely. Afghanistan did nicely because it was
not even a month later we had boots on the
ground in Afghanistan and didn't come out until what twenty
twenty one, twenty twenty when when when Biden No. Twenty
twenty one is Biden plays out.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
What the motherfucker's hanging off? The planes and shit?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I get it. I don't know. I just get
a little nervous and my mind starts going into some
some very not fucking cool directions in my opinion, when
I start hearing about Iraq and shit. But I don't know,
I don't, to be honest with you, I don't know
how serious was situation this is. I don't know if
this is like isolated incidents, if this is retaliation, if
this is something they can be like, because I mean,
is this they these these organizations have names and ship,

(11:10):
but do they have a centralized fucking place to bomb
and go after? The Whole point of a terrorist organization
is decentralization, so you never know where they're striking from
or even where they're at.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeahsows Yeah, but HESBLO has got their home base is Lebanon,
like they they they have a presence in Lebanon.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh. Hesblos like Teyne Fed became like like the ira
became a legit political party in Northern Ireland.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Kind of I'm not sure if they're a political party,
but I know they.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Just shun fine, I know that ship. I know. I'm sorry.
If I have anybody from Ireland listening, I am sorry
for butchering that pronunciation. But no, I'm just like, who
did okay? Because he is Are they a political organization
or the terrorist organization terrorists? Depends on depends on who
you are, right, because if you go as Palestine a nation,

(12:02):
as on who you ask, I.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Believe the un IS classified has as a terrorist organization
just like Amas.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Thatsh She's gonna ped us. What is so terrorist? Up?
That's a bad joke from hell and I meanwhile, people who've
never ate hummus are like, what the fuck is he
talking about?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Anyways?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, okay, outside of Iraq, because now let's let's stop
fucking uh pontificating and opining about bullshit that we really
don't have that much information about. Because Jess brought up
something that I've heard rumblings about in my travel through
the media's in the week, which is just a it
seems like an unusually high amount of civil unrest around

(12:41):
the world.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I just found out about this stuff going on in
UK literally like a half hour before we hopped on
this call.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh okay, well okay, Like one of the UH podcasts
that that, like I listened to clips from UH is
a right wing to maybe centrist. I don't I don't want.
I don't have enough of the gauge of politics over
there to know how that I know, Like I said,
how the media, the BBC media would would portray them

(13:09):
as far right, but they sound kind of centrist to
like right to like normal right wing to me. But
it's called podcasts the Lotus Eaters, and they talk about
this stuff. But they have a bunch of different fucking
hosts on there, so you get a bunch of different perspectives.
And I really don't understand the politics of what's going on.
But in the UK, I understand that there's a lot

(13:29):
of people unhappy because there's been a lot of immigration,
and like, hey, we're gonna go ahead and put all
these fucking people here. And like at one point, it's
like you hear like ten twenty thousand, you go, that's
not that many, until you realize that these like villages
cities sometimes have like fifty thousand people in them, Like
that's quite a lot of fucking people. Actually, How do

(13:51):
you even you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm I mean,
I'm throwing numbers out of my ass, pulling the numbers
on my ass here. I'm not saying it's that much.
But like when you start hearing about thousands being moved in,
that doesn't that's a drop in the bucket. If you're
talking about New York City, it ain't. If you're talking
about Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, they do that here. I remember Auburn, Maine was
a town that I went to where all the locals
pitched about all the people from the Sudan that the
government it just pretty much just went here, you go, that.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Is important, you can. And we're beyond the point of
even trying to fucking say these people are all coming
in here legally, right, Like even like even the Democrats
have given that ghost up right, They're just like, yeah,
there's a lot of illegals flooding or excuse me, undocumented
people coming over the border. I rich, you break a law. Yeah,
in this country, when you break a law, you're a criminal.

(14:37):
So you're not illegal, you're just under arrest. But I mean,
if you're coming from a dire situation, believe me, I've known.
I've known people not in that dire situation where they're
willing to fucking cross a continent to fucking illegally hop
a border.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Hey, the thing we were talking about, the people were
hanging off planes. I would rather try to hang off
landing here, to try the one millionth of a shot
out to make it through this flight to get to
the US, then stay here.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
This is why I tell people in they're like, us sucks. Okay,
there's a lot of shit we suck at. Do you
know what? A lot of motherfucker's fighting to bo in
this fucking country for a country, it sucks because it's
still one of the very few places on this planet
you can start off with jack shit and die with
a whole lot more shit than you started off with.
Not as much as you used to be, now as
quick as you used to be, and you can't do

(15:27):
it like you used to, but it's still there. You
just the game is the game. The hustle's changed, that's all. Yeah,
you gotta find a new hustle.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
There's still people that are killing, literally killing themselves to
get here. Like, go walk through the desert to fucking
Mexico and tell me that's not true. We're walking through
the fucking deserts. It's fucking Texas and Arizona and New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, what's funny is at least here in the American side,
because I know that from watching and listening, and also
my phone died and I had to work without streaming news,
podcast or anything like that for two days, and because
I cannot listen to the same fucking twenty songs on
repeat on local stations for two days straight, I was

(16:10):
listening to NPR, and holy shit, I'm just saying, wow, really,
tell us, tell us it's just everything is everything white
ain't alright, at least on the Detroit side of NPR.
Le'll just go ahead and put it that way, like
it's a very fucking it's a it's a very hostile outlook,

(16:32):
and it's a very fucking sanitized outlook on the black community.
Case in point, I've watched videos and clips for over
a year now, and I'm sure you guys have seen
them in your fucking online travels, listeners and co hosts,
both of people all over this country, city, rural, whatever, white, black,

(16:56):
going to city council meetings, going we're pissed off that
all these fucking people are coming in and using up
the resources they're supposed to be for us, and it's
happening in black communities, and they're going, why the fuck
are these people sucking up our resources? And it sounds
a whole lot like a bunch of white people sounded
in the eighties, at least that's what the fucking TV
news told me. Now I'm starting to wonder if I
could go back to the eighties and I have went

(17:16):
to those neighborhoods that were predominantly black that were getting
the influx of fucking illegals excuse me, undocumented people in
there well as the eighties they were illegals then illegals.
I wonder if they were bitching. It's just the news
was like, and we don't give it. One they're black.
Two and you don't really give a fuck whatever because
I'm dead SERI like you, this is like, it's you're racist.
You're white supremacist. If you don't want these these immigrants

(17:39):
in this country, you don't want these people in this country.
You don't want to give these people IDs so they
can vote, even though they're not fucking citizens of this country.
So they have literally no skin in the game, but
they're gonna have a say in how this fucking money
spent that they have nothing to put nothing in towards.
And I'm sorry, Like, I get the argument of, well,
they spend money, like there's sales tax, there's tax on
good you know, gas tax, tax on tobacco, alcohol. Yeah,

(18:02):
I understand all that, but if you're also getting like
federal or state assistance, come.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
On, and do you think they pay more in taxes
because of all this is I came to like this
realization this week. I don't understand this, Like, why don't
like write I'm like a single person without children. Why
isn't my tax Why do I Why don't I pay
less in taxes? I use less resources? Like every like

(18:26):
what's the big what's been the one of the big
buzz phrases the last fucking ten years? Pay your fair share?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, now hold on a secon because let's let's back
this up, all right, what why is that? Well, there's
a reason for it. What is the reason for it?
It's to encourage people to get married and pro create.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But that's the thing. Why why do you get a
tax break for making more of a drain on the system,
you should get a tax break for doing the opposite.
There's that your tax doll should be bigger if you
have kids.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
There's that, But there's also this, and this is what
fucks people up, and this is what bucks with people's minds,
and this is what fucking gets overlooked because they're worried
about what you're talking about. The same time they're fucking
literally giving you financial incentives to marry and pro create.
They're telling you too many people on the planet. Stop
fucking getting married, stop fucking having kids, We're having too many,

(19:17):
there's not enough resources, blah blah blah. Which one do
you want? Because in my world, in the world I
grew up in money talks and bullshit walks, and you're
telling me via the money what's more important. That's cognitive dissonance.
You're being told two separate things through an authority figure
aka the state and agents of the state. You don't
think that plays on a society. And that's just on

(19:38):
one level that you overlook every fucking day, dude, every
day you look past that, but your subconscious does not,
and that plays on you, and it plays on everybody
else's shit bulls throwing that out there, just throwing that
out there, and yes, you're absolutely right, it does not
make sense from a financial standpoint. You are using less resources.
You should pay less.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't use the schools, use less electricity. I'm using
less gasoline, like you know what I'm saying. I'm using
less uh ship to heat and cool my home. I
use I buy less groceries.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
All the things, all the things we're supposed to cut
back or change our consumption of. You're doing yet financially incentives.
They're financially incentivizing the antithesis of what they're what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And I'm cool with you taking some of mine money
for it. The streets don't pay themselves. Someone's getting a
bill for them for the electricity, for the traffic lights.
You gotta pay the cops and firemen. I get that ship.
But I'm saying, like, yeah, like hey, you should you
didn't use Hey still have no kids, didn't use the schools.
Here's some money back, you know, like shit like that.
Like I don't understand our taxes, okay, and I don't

(20:43):
understand some of the rationale behind our tax system.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Once again, let's let's take a look at it like
this Okay, that's how retardedly you're being taxed on top
of the fact of everything that we fucking talked about,
which is you're not just paying, you're paying for people
who don't have skin in the fucking game. Dude, Come on,
I can't do this anymore. I can't sit here and
act like, well, we need to give people undocumented people
in this country driver's license so they can drive legally. Well,

(21:08):
you know what, how about this, If you're here.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Illegally, you don't get drive, get your shit in order.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You don't get an illegal fucking piece of paper saying
you are a fucking citizen of whatever or living in
whatever city. Because bottom line, if you get fucking somehow
registered to vote, all you got to do. We've talked
about it on previous shows. Anybody ever fucking went in
a deep dive on your idea or they just looked
at it to make sure you're on the vote, you're
in the right place to vote, and it said go ahead.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's usually some fucking senior citizen who's making sure, yeah
that I'm on the list.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
That you're at the right fucking place to vote. So
as long as you're registering, you're in the right fucking
place to vote for your precint. Pretty much, it's up
to grandma and grandpa how fucking how thorough they're gonna
be about checking shit out. And you don't think in
today's day and age, today's political climate, that's not gonna
start ship. Now take that and extrapolate it out to
what they got going on and over in parts of

(22:00):
the UK where I'm hearing about, like a nineteen year
old son of immigrants goes to a dance academy and
goes on a stabbing spree to the point where like
two people are dead, including some kids. People were all
fucked up. A sixty five year old man jumped in
and stopped him and got fucked up in the process himself.

(22:22):
But when they interviewed him from the bedside, he was
upset that he couldn't do more, he couldn't protect him,
and he's like, I'm not I'll heal. People are dead.
And the news over there did something that is so
American and it's not American. It's just once again we
are seeing things through the prism of our fucking our
narcissism in this country. It's just the tactic media uses,
which is to go the nineteen year old alleged attacker.

(22:46):
Wait a minute, well, well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whenever I
hear this many stories about something, I'm just gonna say
it at this point, if I don't hear that he's white,
I know what if I excuse me, if I don't
hear what his race is, I know he ain't white.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
See now, I'll tell you you one story where that
didn't apply to was the Trump shooter, because I was
pretty sure that dude was not white until I saw
a picture of him. They definitely weren't trotting that out
like right away, or though wait I did have this thought?
Or was I supposed to assume he was white because
they said he was a registered Republican? Am I just

(23:21):
supposed to?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Did I miss that memo?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
And I mean, like, I know, it's online, and online
is a cesspool for a fucking like it just it
just is. But the fact that people online are just
getting in the dick waving, and I'll get you fired.
I'll go, I'm screenshot and send them to your wife,
to your boss, to your mommy, to your granny, all
this shit over. He's a Republican now, he's a Democrat.

(23:45):
He was trans, No, he wasn't, well he identified as queer. No,
he didn't. Well what just happened to Sometimes people are
just nutty as squirrel shit and they really don't have
a political side that they're on. They're just taxi drivers
style crazy and want to kill someone who's who's who's
famous because they think in some fucked up way that

(24:06):
makes them famous, which in our society it kind of does.
He ain't around to enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Did you guys see the conspiracy theory meme that had
him and Elizabeth Warren in it?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, no, it was it was something like uh her
illegitimate kid that she gave up or some shit like that.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
The one that I saw was like them, you're two
into conspiracy theories me and then it was like them
a side by side of them too.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, they do it with Justin Trudeau and uh uh
Fidel Castro. And if you actually go look at it
and you realized Trudeau's mother was a big fan of
Castros and hung around with Castro. That's Castro's bastard kid.
That mofucker looks just like built, just like him when
he was younger. All that shit Anyways, I digress. The
point is is that this is now something that has spread,

(24:54):
like American style censorship of the news based on whose
feelings we might hurt, what groups we might piss off,
and what said groups that may get pissed off, what
they might do while pissed off. We've exported that over
there to where they're doing that there. We know they
do it here because they've been doing it for fucking
going on two decades. Now. Fuck the post racial America

(25:16):
after two thousand and eight, you can kiss that shit goodbye.
I don't care what the article said. We're not post racial.
She's just got worse. And I mean, dude, the minute
I hear about an attack on the news, if they
don't admit he's white right off the bat, I know
he's not white.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like five days a week, I am exposed to CNN
and Fox News right next to each other.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It is.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
They just don't even hide it anymore.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh it's sports, dude, It's the political theater is sports.
The problem is is that unlike sports, real money is
going on moving behind the scenes of sports. But that
real money in that moment in the that that money,
I mean, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. So of
course you can do something. You know, owners can do

(26:05):
something with money that is political, but it's not inherently political.
But so you can say, well, it's entertainment distracting you
from shit. Yeah, But ultimately, is it really that bad?
Because watching political parties and politicians and rooting for them
like sports teams, and treating them like sports teams, and
never fucking admitting when your side your team is wrong,

(26:28):
while real money and real lives are at stake behind
the scenes, while all this political theater is going on
to keep you entertained, that is a problem.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I mean, the news is supposed to be informative, but
I mean that ship is saled. I'm doing this for
ten years and I've been bitching about it. It's over
no longer. It's Jay. Wherever we are, Jay, we love you.
What did he say? It's infotainment?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Mm? And I mean, I don't even I said this.
Fuck it. I said it in the pre show talk
like you got to look at the media like you're
a chick and the media is a guy, and media
is trying to convince you that to suck his dick
because he's not gonna come in your mouth, but you know,
damn well, he's gonna he's gonna just flat out brick
in your ship.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I guess we're never getting a Disney sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Oh because after after the media bricks in your mouth,
Mickey Mouse comes in, you spit it in Mickey Mouse's mouth.
He fucking gapes, Donald Duck spits it, and Donald Duck's asks,
who shits it into Mini Mouse's mouth? Now we should
get the Disney sponsorship. And then Luke Skywalker comes in
and then everybody stands up, claps and says, oh, what
a lovely tea party. So where were we?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The media is not gonna come in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It's exactly what because they want you to believe bullshit
and there will you. It's such an abusive fucking relationship.
It really is like the media wants you to believe bullshit,
and you know they're telling you bullshit, and you're going,
how much of this bullshit am I gonna buy? Because
it's maybe a better fucking analogy is it's the media
is like really really stepped down heroin for junkies. You

(28:03):
know it's garbage, but you get your fix and you're
not sick. You're not in withdrawals. Every once in a while,
something happens. It's the really good they get the really
good shit, and that's when you fucking man, you put
that shit, you push off, and you fucking are in
another fucking world. But that shit's few and far between,
and the rest of the time they're just breadcrumbing you

(28:24):
along by giving you shit so fucking stepped on. You
hardly get high, but you never get truly stick with withdrawals.
Once you look at the media like that, you can
pick and choose what you want to fucking like. I
don't believe that shit. I don't give a fuck. I
don't care what you got to say, picks or it
didn't happen. We live in the world where everybody is
a fucking a film studio and their fucking front or

(28:45):
back pocket. You're telling me, no one got pictures of
this shit. I'm supposed to take source, bro trust me,
And you're the fucking media. And if you think I'm
fucking being hyperbolic or exaggerating, go dig through. Not your
fucking CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Go look to your local Fox,
your local NBC, your local ABC news. Shit too much

(29:05):
Bullshit's getting fed fed.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
As a member. There's a news director picking the information
you're going to receive, and I.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Mean, to paraphrase, fucking or well, you control the flow
of information, you can control the fucking thoughts of people.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, what was it? Been reminded of this lately through
a podcast I listened to, Uh, what was it? Well,
she doesn't work for me anymore, but Amy Robot had
shipped about Harvey Weinstein like two or three years before
all that shit popped off, and the network was like,
nah' Like they choose what they want you to know.

(29:40):
That is not conspiratorial, that is not to foil hat,
that is not me being paranoid. That is a fat
There is a news director at no matter what flavor
of media you choose to fill your tummy with, there
is a news director there saying yes, no, that is
a fact.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
It's just a depressing fact.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I mean they used to be like, it used to
be kind of like a judge, right. They used to
it was kind of like an impartial you know, an
impartial party. Were they ever in party? If you go,
you know, it was supposed to be like they were
supposed to be like a judge, right, Like someone who
didn't give a fuck, like was it good, was it newsworthy?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Let's put it this way. Fuck. I can't remember the
name of the podcast, but one of the hosts on it,
I was listening to this clip like the I think
it was today actually, and he was talking about he
watched a documentary and they were excuse me, they were
showing just like random clips, not famous clips of Walter Cronkite,
like the moon landing or jfk assassination. There's random clips

(30:44):
of random stories throughout the fucking you know decades. Kronkite
was on the air. He was like, the news was
so boring. It was just here's what, when, how, where?
And to the best of our knowledge, why next story?
No opinions, no arguing. I mean like this, this is
this host I think he was probably in his late
twenties early thirties, but he was literally shocked that it

(31:06):
was just no hostile anything. It was just someone reading news.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was television reporting. Look that up in the dictionary.
What reporting is? I over enunciated it, but yes.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
But I mean that's yes, yes, Like I'm sorry, certain
things in this world should be boring. The news should
not be inherently hyperbolic trying to get you an agitative
He should not be agitation prop should not be agitation propaganda.
But we should have, could have, would have, you know,
shoit in one hand, wish and the other. See which
one fills up all those good fucking sayings. Well, at

(31:44):
one point it wasn't as blatant as it is now.
They don't get me wrong. There was still only a
handful of fucking people that owned all the fucking media,
because the media was like three channels back then. So
you know, it wasn't really it wasn't really good for
what do you call it? Diversity, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, look, here's here's a good analogy of how it
was supposed to be, or it used to be, or
at least it's supposed to be. Right, all right, we're
gonna close football season, and your kids put on your
sports hats.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
With sports announcers, it is considered, at least now, it
is still considered bad form. If you are announcing for
a game to root for either of the teams. You're
supposed to be impartial. You're supposed to be announcing the game.
You're not supposed to show any favoritism. You're supposed to
be announcing what is going on, all right, that is
what you're supposed to be doing with the news now.

(32:38):
Motherfuckers are just showing up wearing a fucking team hoodie.
They got the hat on, they got the big fucking
foam finger with the team logo on it. Like, that's
what's happening with the news now, exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
And here in Detroit. Like if you watch the Red
Wings and you're anywhere near our age, you're younger, you
know who Mickey Redmond is. Mickey Redmand is a homer
like a motherfucker. But it was Mickey breaks the rum
well when pro Brit and coachber were fighting in the
eighties and nineties. Yeah, yeah, he really let his fucking
like then I think they kind of let him off

(33:12):
the leash and he really like once once the Red
Wings really started making those deep runs, he really kind
of got the green light from the Illiz family. Please
lean into the homer isms. It's great, we love it.
But like he tried, but like you to hear it
in his voice. But that was a The reason I
bring this up is because that was a bone of
contention and also a like kind of like a dig

(33:33):
at Ricky Ricky at Mickey Redman in the NHL announcer community,
which is hilarious to me if you when you have
Don Cherry who's like Don Cherry is gonna root who
Don Cherry wants to root for, and he don't give
a fuck if you like that or not. And he's
gonna root against who he wants to you don't give
a fuck like that or not.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I would like, is Don still with us?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Oh yeah, yeah? His daughter just died and his daughter
is like it was in her like late sixties, early seventies,
because I think Don Cherry's like in his late eighties nineties.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I would like to see Don Cherry and just any
like African American man get any suit competition. I bet
it would be close.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh Don Cherry's a pimp Canada. That's what I'm saying.
I mean, it's not saying much, but like his pimp.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
And is long random brother out of Detroit, pick get
tell him to get in his church wardrobe and you know,
you know what the random suit and I bet Don
might win.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know what they do? They see Don chair and
be like all right, all right, and Don try to
be like where you get that suit man, I like that,
and it would be like, that's what they would do,
but it would be absolutely like, oh man, it's just tight.
I'd be like, I don't know what that means, but
thank you, you know, it's just oh god. Anyways, the
whole point of this fucking, very long, fucking diatribe is

(34:46):
that these stories that I hear and the news reports
I hear about what's going on all over the world
with like whatever unrest is going on wherever. I don't
know who to believe. I don't know the fucking like,
I don't know the g politics ins and outs of
it enough to really formulate an opinion on whether I'm
being fed bullshit or not. All I can do is
just look at the source. And when I look at

(35:08):
most of the sources, I'm like, of course, you're telling
me a bullshit story. That's fucking pushing a narrative. I mean,
I don't care if it's on the left or it's
on the right, Like, I just just don't bullshit me.
Just tell me the truth, leave me, Leave your fucking
opinion out of it. Unless I seek out your opinion.
Believe me, there's plenty of opportunities for you to give
your opinion. You don't need to give it when you're
presenting the news story.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I mean, there used to be like the editorial page.
I remember you don't back remember back in the day,
at the end of the newscast, there'd be now an
editorial from blank, you know in some newscast.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Now here's trunk Bill Bond's challenging Coleman Young to a
fish fight on the air.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Right, No, that's not of writ that still goes on
NUN channel two. But no, but yeah, no, but I remember,
like back and then one of the newscasters just popping
off about something or is there someone who worked at
the station, and now, yeah, there's that's where the opinion went.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I mean, that's that's an issue, not just for me,
that's an issue for other people. And here's the deal.
I think the more comfortable you are admitting that you
want to get your news from a source that's either
going to piss you off or reinforce your own bias,
I think the easier it is to watch specially cable news,
legacy media news. But I mean, like it's beyond it

(36:22):
does not lie. You go online, it's it becomes really
specialized really quick. It's funny every once in a while
run across the podcast I've never heard of and I'm
just like okay, and I'll start listening and I'm like,
all right, wow, these guys are really really really fucking
like kind of like for me to say this, you
know they are. I'm like, these as a really right
wing and then here comes something about like Jews and

(36:44):
I'm like, oh, I get it now, not bad click, sorry,
you know that's not my thing. Here's like I have,
Like I ain't scared of the Jewish army coming, mafia
coming to fuck me up or anything. It's just like
it's not my thing. I I have enough reason to
hate people on a one on one basis. I don't
need you tell me you need to hate all these
people who you'll never meet and they'll have never and

(37:06):
you two will never have any interaction with. There's motherfuckers
literally next door to me that I hate. I don't
need help, all right, I'm good, Yeah, but so I
don't like, I don't even I don't even know how
to take it. And I mean, I'm not saying this
is a conversation end er. I'm just throwing that out

(37:28):
there because like I feel like this is when when
it comes to stories outside that they're they're happening outside
of like the American borders or or through the America.
You know, a story that's so uniquely American, we can
be like, yeah, that's bullshit, or be like, yeah, that's true.
I don't have that with other parts of the world.

(37:49):
And the news is doing a horrible job of making
me feel informed, and it's doing a horrible job of
making anybody feel informed. Based on the conversations I've tried
to have with some people about this stuff, can go
ahead and say this, you're fellow under thirty years Jess,
a whole lot of deer in headlights, and yeah, that's
crazy as wild. It's really bad.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I can think of right now is fucking Rage against
the Machine View the World through American eyes? Bury the past,
robust blind view the world through American eyes? Was that
no shelter?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I really, I've really had to have a reckoning with
my Rage against the Machine fandom excuse me, and I've
come to the conclusion that Rage against the Machine has
two albums to me and then I don't give a fuck,
and that is their first one, An Evil Empire, and
I don't give a single fuck about anything after that,

(38:39):
I don't. It is, yeah, like Battle of Los Angeles.
Don't care, the whole one, the whole cover one, don't
give a ship. Rennegade's a funk, don't care whatever else
they come out with, don't give a shit. I'm just
I mean, on top of the fact that I'm just like,
they are fucking just shameless hypocrites.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, it was all right to sell records. Yeah, absolutely capitalists.
Do you see the ticket prices to their last tour?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
No, I know, And then it was amazing how many
fucking people come out of that would work to defend
nine hundred dollars tickets.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I'm like, my favorite thing about I never liked GRAGI
and they were just not it for me. So my
favorite thing about them was whenever they required you to
bring your vaccine passport to come to their show.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Seems uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Pretty ironic to stand there screaming, fuck you, I won't
do what you tell me, right, whenever you had to
show up with your proof.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
The problem with authoritarians is that they only recognize their
brand of authoritarianism as valid. Everybody else's is bullshit. So
immediately when you're dealing with an authoritarian. They're very comfortable
in their hypocrisy. They they not just wabble in it.
They slather their dick and their balls and peanut butter
and make that hypocrisy, lick it off it like they're

(39:59):
really into it. It like like like white women and
they're German shepherds are into that. They're into it. So yeah,
that's based in Dog Build for You.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
But god damn it if you're my age that first
album as a classic.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
No, it was and Evil Empire. I I it's not
as front to back up. But the songs I like
on there, I really like a lot more than I
like on the first one.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
The first one is just solid all the way through
to him thinking about it, thinking about that the first
one came out in nineteen ninety two, you're like what
because thinking about the rest of music in nineteen ninety two, Like, yeah, Biohazards,
some of the hardcore stuff out of New York around
that time kind of had that vibe to it, but

(40:43):
it was more of a shouty not necessarily straight up
rap like legit Like, and I don't think Zach dhla
Roach is a great MC.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
He doesn't his flows. His lyrics are pretty rudimentary, screaming
the shit over and over again. They prove his flows
are not complex. He doesn't have any and tandras, he
doesn't use metaphors. He doesn't his friend, a guy like
Rock Kim, will slay him in just his fucking phrasing
because Rock Kim's had around and listened to Coltrane and said,
I wrote songs for the first ten years of my

(41:11):
career where I never repeated a rhyme pattern once in
one song. Well that's all Rage against the Machine does,
to repeat rhyme patterns and formula.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well yeah, well they proved with Audio Slave it was
all about the band. It wasn't about Zach.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Dale Roach absolutely and I do the blowback. Wow music
nerds shit real quick. A lot of the blowback I
saw against uh uh damn, you just said their name
Audio audio Slave was because Zach wasn't there. And I
was like terminedly online at that point, and I was
reading like Proto's Social Justice Warriors saying, there you go.

(41:51):
Bandit says they're fucking socialists and communists and against colonizers.
Get rid of their POCU a lead singer and bring
in a white Boy, and I'm just like, Wow, it's
Chris Cornell. I don't think any musician worth a fuck. Yeah, No,

(42:11):
Chris Cornell is white or black or Korean. He's Chris
Cornell first. He's that voice and talent first. All right,
then he is whatever the fuck he is. That's how
musicians are. You just proved me. I said, I'm sorry,
real nerd, nerd music, nerd shit.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Sorry, Oh I'm about to get nerdier real and we'll
get back. I think think about the name of the band.
I've always had a theory that they were. They were
both both of their bands that broke up were on
the same label, and the label went to these guys
and went, uh, you guys, owe us a ton of

(42:44):
fucking albums because we gave you a ton of fucking money.
You better make a band. Now, think about the name
of the band.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I mean they released three albums and called it quits
very quick. Yeah, And I mean history has been rewritten, folks.
I'm here to tell you I lived through Coachee's premiering
in twenty or two thousand and two. You know that
song premiered like literally a month or so on the
radio before my dad died. I remember very clearly. Audio

(43:14):
Slave were a band that had hits. They got launchting
local airplay, they were on heavy rotation on MTV and
more importantly in the two thousands on vh one, because
that's where a lot of the music fans went, especially
music fans who grew up with MTV in the nineties.
So don't let and they rewrote that autist. It sucked.
Everyone hated them, No one liked them. It was a

(43:35):
complete failure. No, that's Velvet Revolver you're talking about. That's
not Audio Slave. No that's chicken Foot you're talking about.
That's not Audio Slate.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I was in radio and Audio Slave. Okay, we played
the fuck out of Coach. I remember hearing Coaches and going,
holy shit, this is great.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Remember hearing Coaches and I'm like, so they found what
was it? Houses are the Holy with with the Ocean
on it? Right?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But the rest of that album sounds okay. These were
riffs that they had for rage, that they had laying around.
Cornell had.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Now that we've music nerd out and you said something, Jess,
and I really want to fucking I want to understand it,
he said, I don't. I didn't like Rage and it
just weren't my thing. What about Rage didn't you like?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I just I don't know how to answer that.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Well, it's it's not a trick question. I'm not trying
to get you to say something be like, ah, I gotcha,
it's not I'm not. I'm just I know a lot
of people back in the day when I should because
I got that first album in like ninety two, like
right as ninety two was coming to an end, and
I had all my friends were like Punk dan Zig,
Black Flag, Rollin's band, Helmet, and I was like, yo,

(44:49):
you guys got to hear this. And they were like, oh,
that fuck, that's that's that ship that like Public Enemy
did with anthraxes for a joke. That's that's joke. You
don't rap over metal. That's a joke. It was not
even a racist thing. It was just that's not you
sing over metal. You rap over fucking beats.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
This is the future. Son.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
His voice irritates meh singers voice.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I can kind of understand that.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
My first impression was like, oh, if the Beastie Boys
could play their instruments.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
But yeah, but dude, then I listen to check your
head and I'm like, these boys can actually play their instruments.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, and you know what doesn't get enough credit is
their instrumentals.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Dude. That's what I'm saying. If you go listen to
the what is it the Mashup or whatever, they're all
instrumental album. Now, I will say this.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I mean, yeah, it's not damn.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
They might as well be. The song titles might as
well be we break one through twelve. I'm just gonna
tell you that right now. Yeah, but for smoking weed
and kicking back and listen to some and I mean
this is like this was in the two thousands, so
they have been playing for fucking twenty five years. Professionally,
you can't help but get better unless you're trying to
stay shitty and they actually tried. They had like like

(46:04):
he's and shit and I mean, like I'm just saying,
Beastie Boys could play, but Beastie Boys weren't raucous as that.
Like at their at their wildest, Beastie Boys is like
gratitude or I'm talking about like a full band Beastie Boys,
gratitude outside the punk shit that I don't really know
about from way back in to day or uh oh,

(46:25):
they're big hit fucking they play in every fucking movie
anytime they have to talk about the nineties, sabotage, Fight
for your right, thank you, thank you, sabotage. That's how
much I hate that fucking song. Because I've heard it
so much, I put it out of my head. I
remember gratitude though, But yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Tom Reller showed up in ninety two doing shit with
a guitar that people never seen. I think that's kind
of what put rage on the map too. Tom Mores
was making noises with guitar that people like, what is
this guy doing?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
No Yeah, that's that was a real issue for the
old heads in ninety two. Like I would go to
the guitar shop and I'd bring that tape and they
start playing it and they'd be like, what the fuck?
Like brush has noise? That's some like fucking Sonic Youth noise. Shit.
I'm like, you don't hear a difference between that and
Sonic Youth, And I actually like, I don't own any albums.

(47:13):
I've never seen them live, but I don't mind to
like a lot of Sonic Youth I've heard. I just
don't know a lot of their stuff, but I'm like
that sounds nothing like Sonic, Like seriously, the only bands
I can think of, like if Downset was around when
Rage hit, because Downset was Rage, but they were from
the fucking they were truly from the West Coast, and
they were a bunch of fucking like essays and homies

(47:33):
and shit.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
They were they were pissed.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, Downset was my I like Downset more than I
liked Rage against the Machine.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Somebody as a kid, like the guy from Downside.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Was like, I'm just saying, like it's funny because like
they were a straight edge band, and I'm not straight
edge whatsoever, have never really been straight edge. But I
just liked them because I liked I like the riffs,
I like to fucking aggression. I like the fact that
they sung about what they fucking wanted to. They're one
of the fucking only hardcore bands that ever spok sung

(48:06):
about any spirituality and beliefs that they had that weren't
tied to the like the church in some way.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Like then they have the song the Anger, I still
towards the yeah yeah, And then he's like and then.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
That whole verse is like the whole first verse is
about how during the LA riots, the LAPD shot his
dad in front of them.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, that's why he's mad.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
He's he's like, so I grew up thinking I gotta
blast them before they blast me, because he's like, what,
I don't know, twelve thirteen some shit. And he had
to be older than that. He had to be older
than that because I mean ninety two had their first
album about like ninety two ninety three. So yeah, he's
probably like seventeen eighteen. Man.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Shit that happens and to you when you were a kid,
stays with you. It helps form you, good and bad.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Aging. Then Zach and fucking uh Tom from Ragainst Machine
must have been around people that we're making money. That's
all I can think. Well, you know what he's from.
He's from. Tom Morrell's from Libertyville, Illinois, same fucking town
that Adam Jones, guitar player from Tools from. Adam Jones
had money before Tool. Almost everybody in that band had

(49:16):
money before Tool because Adam Jones was working on Terminator
two at the Special Effects. Yeah. Yeah, he got back
in on that movie before Toole ever put out a
fucking album, So he was good. So I mean, like,
in my experience to get into that level to where
you're getting that type of shit, you're either really good
at your job or you came from people who had
the right connections, which means you came from people with money.

(49:38):
That's all i'most say. So you got two guys, I'm
just two guys come from the same fucking town. One
of them screaming like he's fucking born in some third world,
fucking you know, hovel somewhere drinking mudwater, and the other
one was like, no, I went and worked for James
Cameron and one of the biggest movies in the history
of fucking ever, and he was my next door neighbor,
right throwing that once again. Hi, welcome to the you're

(50:01):
being lied to show the media edition.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, there we go, this bringing it all back to
a little musical detour.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
But okay, take what we just talked about. Look how
much public relations, marketing, manipulation, pushing narratives is involved in
selling a band from thirty, you know, thirty and some
change years ago. So if that's what they're willing to
do for bands thirty some years ago, they have the
ability to do it more on a more specialized level

(50:31):
and reach you and make it feel like they are
trying to talk to you in particular, a lot more
than they did thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Oh yeah, thirty years ago, there was one to two
screens that could get to you, right, and they were
at your house and you left them for a few
hours a day. Now there's one that's with you all day,
multiple sometimes.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Right, Okay, this might be a generational thing, Jess. Yes,
do you remember going to the movie theater without seeing it?
Not trailers, not let's go out to the movies or
you know, like throw your trash away when you leave,
Please enjoy your concessions. It's the concession stand, not those advertisements.
I'm talking straight up state farm fucking commercials in front

(51:14):
of a movie. Do you remember ever going to movie
without seeing commercials in front of it?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I don't, don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
There's not a lot of trailer it's just try to
remember trailers. I don't remember when commercials started.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
The commercials, at least here up here. This might be
a regional thing. I don't know. I kind of doubt it,
considering the movie chains are fucking you know that national
to worldwide. But what they do usually up here is
when you go in and the house lights are still up.
They haven't dimmed them yet. They just have commercials intermixed
with local slide advertisements. And then when they start the

(51:46):
fucking actual like you know, the projector or digital whatever
the fuck up, that's when they start showing that, you know,
the go to concession stand, please throw your stuff away,
here's all the trailers for the coming blah blah blah.
They've even gotten the point where they show commercials between trailers.
Maybe I noticed it more. I don't know, guys. I okay,
hold on a second. The last movie I went to

(52:07):
in the movie theater was June too. Before that, Dune
before that, Guardians of the Galaxy, the first one before that,
the third Batman movie, and before that was Brothers Jake
Gillen Hall and Homeboy who played the spider Man Toby
Maguire in two thousand and nine. Six times and fifteen years.
I've been in the movie. So maybe I've noticed it
more than you guys have, because I'm sure he has

(52:28):
been more than six movies in fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Okay, I don't know that I actually have, but I
have been to two movies in the last ten days.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I don't even know who I am anymore.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
But I noticed that they did like their commercials before previews,
but they weren't like in between previews or anything.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I went to the movies like two years ago.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
You think there was there was There was a period
of time on the Old Show that you were going
at a good clip, like you were coming back. And
I'm like, you're takalking about movies that's still in the theater.
How did you see that? Because I know you don't
sail the seas online? Oh me, yeah, yeah no, but
you don't even have a fuck You don't have a
desktop to do it, let alone a fucking laptop or

(53:12):
well you have a laptop, but I don't think you'd
risk it.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
No, but yeah, no, no, but you're talking about like
Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, like see
five plus years ago.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like on during the Old Show, Yeah,
like you've been you you were going to a steady
clip of movies, because there were plenty of times you
and and Aaron would sit and talk and I'm just like,
I haven't seen it yet. I should have fucking sailed
the seas online if I'd have known. You guys both
seen this movie. But I'm just, like I said, I

(53:42):
don't know. It's because I've went so few times over
such a long period of time. And like I said,
when I went in two thousand and nine, it was
very obvious. I was like, oh, they're playing commercials before
they killed the house lights and dim them and start
playing the ship. And the last time, it's like commercials
were just playing all through until the movie started. And
to be honestly, I I kind of feel if you
go to a fucking Marvel movie where they have after

(54:02):
credits commercials after credit scenes, they probably throw a commercial
on after that scene too, so they can at least
one last time as you're walking out the theater, here
buy our product.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Well, yeah, because it's a Marvel movie, they've essentially established
now you have to sit through the credit because you'll misshit.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
But really, really, really really think about all everything that
goes behind all the manipulation all that. So do you
think that that's what happens on the corporate level, Then
realize that corporation's own news companies and they're there to
make a profit, and understand that that happens there too.
That's why, depending on what news source you're listening to,

(54:40):
watching streaming whatever. Everybody's far left or far right, which
I think it'd just be more honest to say not
in our tribe and just be open about it and
just get started. I guess I'll have to get to
kill each other. So I said, can come in and
be like, hey, you're done, Yeah, you're done. Okay, have
a seat, adults are here now.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yes, It's something I talk a lot about with just
in like real life. It's so frustrating and something like
I even kind of mentioned it whenever we were on
the pre show where I was trying to learn something today,
like a big topic, and I didn't know how to

(55:20):
look it up because everything gets so freaking convoluted, and
depending on what you're looking at, you're getting one source
of information, and then what other political leaning you're looking
at on the other side, you're getting another bit of
information that contradicts the first source of information.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
And I just I just wanted to know some answers.
That was it.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Like I'm seeking to understand I'm speaking knowledge about a situation,
and I can't find that because everything is so everything
is so political.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Do you even think a news network that just does
reporting would even could even exist? Now it would even
have viewers. It's like, listen, there's nothing. All we're going
to do is we give you the five w's and
move on.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yes, I think you have a lot of viewers. I
think that the other I think it would have so
many viewers that the other big news stations would be
trying to shut it down.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Here's where I have to say no, because we had
it with AP and Rutters and both of them fucking
started turning into op ed pages essentially, which means the
two pillars of were just here's the facts, no opinion, straight,
no chaser. We're like money, no money to be made here,
money be made here, starting putting your opinion. Now, that

(56:34):
doesn't mean that the pendulum can't swing back, and on
the way back, there'll be a little goldilock zone where
your we is back to just you know, getting No
matter how short that that time period is, it'll be
there for at least a minute where we just get
the shit before we get the right wing fucking opinion,
because that's how pendulum swings work. But that's that's my

(56:55):
only reason for basing that, because once again, you follow
the money.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, like if people been conditioned at this point to
That's the thing. How many years of clickbait are we on?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
When did Facebook make it so anybody could join? Was
it two thousand and eight started? What it really took
off around two thousand and seven? Facebook around two thousand
and eight, and that's when I'd say the steady decline started.
It was since me. Let me ask, I mean, Jess,

(57:26):
you might you might remember. Do you remember when Facebook?
Your Facebook feed, you didn't have a wall. You only
saw whatever you liked or who you were friends with
or what they liked or shared. Do you remember that? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean it was literally like like there was a
sidebar for advertisements. There might be a sponsored link when

(57:48):
you're scrolling every five to ten links that you're seeing,
but you're actually seeing stuff that you liked, like physically
liked on Facebook friends that you have. I scroll now
and it's just advertisements. Ship trying to piss me off,
and ship going back to the fucking well going, Oh,
we see you like music. Here's something about music. Please

(58:11):
read this and click on this? Is that just my?
Is that how it is for you guys as well?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yep, I'm looking right now. It's like, uh, let's see
post from Aaron and for TEAMU people I may know
uh some yeah, something about music, something advertising, football, something
about sports, uh, something they think I'd like on Facebook marketplace,

(58:37):
something about meat, something about the Beatles, Yeah, something about yeah,
like all a bunch of shit I like, but not Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Here are people. It's not your friends.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Here we are somebody I know again, after like almost
like almost close to a dozen things that weren't anybody
I knew, and then back to one, two, oh, somebody
I know, another person I know. Two people in a row, one.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Two, three, four, five, six, all right, six things before
somebody I know again.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I'll do you here. I'll tell you a little trick
that I don't think many people know. If you're scrolling
Facebook on a desktop because you have no life, like me,
to your left, when it has the items says your name, friends, memories,
blah blah blah, saved groups, video, and says see more,
click that, click feeds, and you can literally all which

(59:39):
is everything you've liked and followed in your friends, your favorites,
your friends, just your friends, just your groups, or just
pages you like. I'm pretty sure you can do it
on mobile too. That's the only way you can see
what your friends are posting in real time as they
post it, without a bunch of bullshit being thrown at you.
That's also if you, if you, I don't know, if
you ever notice, like you'll post something and like two

(01:00:03):
weeks I'll go by and the post has ran its course.
Then all of a sudden, like you'll get two or
three likes on something and be like, what the fuck.
That's them not showing your post in real time to
your friends. It's them holding them back showing them to you,
and they've deferred them or delayed them till later.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and that happened a couple Yeah, I have had
that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So you're literally being like, they're literally bottlenecking your contact
with your people. The whole point of Facebook was social media.
Let's take that term at its fucking face value. Social media.
What's social about media now? Besides the social interaction you
have with the advertisements and agitation propaganda. By the way,
you can't you have to search out your friends instead

(01:00:44):
of there's that to being the default reason you're online,
supposedly on Facebook and see what your friends and family
are up to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
I did what you said, and I went to just
my friends and every four post is an advertisement.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
See here family, family, family, friend, friend. I mean in
like seventeen sixteen minutes, thirty one minutes ago, thirty two
minutes ago. So as you can see, they're going, it's
going to chronological word thirty four minutes ago. I'm just
getting friends now. If I go all okay, friend, page,
I follow page, I follow page, I follow page, I

(01:01:21):
follow advertisement, sponsored, whatever, and then back to Yeah. My
point is is that you have to go in and purpose,
like on purpose, request what you used to get by default,
and it was changed, like a drip of water on
a brick, where's it down over fucking you know, hundreds

(01:01:41):
of years or whatever. You didn't even realize it. First
it was timeline was in a minute then or your
excuse me. First a wall was implemented in Timeline, and
it was you could opt in if you're really old,
really nerdy, and you were on Facebook this time, you
remember all this shit. And then all of a sudden
it was like, no, it's not opt in. Everybody has
to get it. You never know what's going to happen,
So you just lot did one day and boom the

(01:02:01):
meme became I got Timeline and then slowly I started
seeing more advertisements, more sponsored, more suggested post less posts
for my friends. And then it was honestly, like about
seven years ago, I was like, where the fuck are
all my friends on Facebook? And that's when I started
talking to my buddies who write code and working in tech,
and they were like, the Facebook you want to experience,
you got to search out and actively fucking engage with.

(01:02:25):
It's not there anymore by default.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
No, it's awful. It's awful.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
And the problem is is I still open it and
mindlessly scroll it without thinking anything of it. I will
catch myself and I'm like, I don't even want to
be on here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
This is boring. I'm like searching for tiny little nuggets.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Hey. Sometimes then ships work, Like I've seen a ton
of Shane Gillis. It's like, it's it. It found stand
up works for me. Hey, we found something you like?
Comedy videos boom.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
It's funny. A lot of skating videos recently, and I
noticed that because for whatever reason, like one of my
favorite skateboarders ever, Honey Mullin, a lot of his video,
like a lot of his videos were getting posted. Like
for a second, I was like, did he die? Hen
Strokers on that like Jesus, he's like a quantum physicist.
He's autistically. I don't even think he does drugs, but shit,

(01:03:13):
and he died young. No, just for whatever reason, a
lot of different skate pages. I fall posted it. Next
thing I know, I'm inundated with nothing but fucking skate
videos and I hardly ever go on Instagram. I go
on Instagram and it's nothing but fucking skate videos and
uh cat videos and pictures, and I'm just like, really,
all right, I'm hardly ever on Instagram, never looked up

(01:03:34):
skate videos on Instagram until they started and suggest him
to me. But then I learned Instagram owned by Meta,
with Jones fake all the same. I was like, oh
this makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Oh wow, my Instagram is like all football and like titties.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I might have been what you've clicked on before the day.
They're like, he likes this, which is like I like
football and porno and books about war. You know what
I'm saying, Like, you're just an average American.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I got an average house.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
With a nice hardwood floor. Yeah, oh Christ, But no,
I know it feels like we've wandered off, and we have.
But I mean, ultimately, I think we're informing the base
topic still, which is this is this is the manipulation,
the level of manipulation that we are exposed to on
our daily basis, but we just don't even realize on
a conscious level. Subconsciously we do. And I can't think

(01:04:27):
that this is having a good impact on us as
a society. I just I cannot believe this. I don't
think people are supposed to be advertised to twenty four
to seven. I don't think people are supposed to be
conditioned that every single little fucking thing, down to the
last dust might have a price tag on it and

(01:04:47):
be advertised somehow there's a profit to be made and
all this. Like sometimes I just want to see pictures
of my fucking like my cousin's kids, you know what
I'm saying. That's it. Really don't need to be told, like, Hey,
this person believes differently than you. Shouldn't you go over
here and argue with them? No, I really should, thank you.
I can get enough shit on my own. I don't
need help. What's that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I saw a meme the other day that I posted.
It was a life is short, make sure you spend
it on the internet, arguing with strangers with politics as
much as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Quote the Art of war, mem them until they cry,
and then mem them about crying. Yes, it's exactly, that's
exactly what's on. Zou said. Yeah, but yeah, And here's
the beauty of it. Here's the beauty of it. All
this civil unrest is happening all over the rest of
the world, coming to your fucking country here sometime soon.
I can't believe some bullshit ain't gonna go down one

(01:05:39):
way or the other. With the bullshit we got coming
up with the election cycle and the election, everything goes
round it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Exercise your second Amendment right before it's repealed. I can't
believe that that phrase just came out of my mouth.
But I'm what's funny is how quickly Congress can act
when they want to do something like what did what
did Chuck Schumer come out with that last week? The
No Kings Act or whatever it's supposed to be a
constitutional amendment that says no one is above the law.

(01:06:06):
When it's again, it's fucking it's Trump related, right. But
you know, I was talking to my lady over the
weekend and somehow, you know, we're having a nice little
light Sunday morning conversation about abortion, and it somehow dawned
on me, like those fuckers have had two years to
come up with an amendment to codify abortion right and

(01:06:29):
they have it now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
It's like they sat around for almost fifty years or
fifty plus years, whatever how much ever it was, and
didn't do a goddamn fucking thing besides just put fucking
Roe v. Wade on the back burner so they could
pull it out whenever they fucking needed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Hasn't been even eight weeks since that immunity shit came
down for Trump and they've managed to throw together a
constitutional amendment like where are your private? What I think,
follow me follow this bouncing ball is the Democrats somehow
fell bass awkwards into an issue that somehow gets people
to turn out for him, and they don't want this

(01:07:07):
to go away because this people gets people out to
the polls for him. It's like, right, if you solve racism, Like,
what how are you gonna get the black folks to
turn out for you if you solve racism.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Ide That's when they pulled that bullshit out during the
twenty twenty two midterm elections about fucking abortion. I was like,
that's the most obvious fucking ringer I've ever fucking seen.
They pulled that out, like here you go, it's gonna
be the handmaiden's tale. And it worked. And here's the thing.

(01:07:39):
You couldn't convince my liberal friends, my progressive friends, that
it worked because they thought doesn't matter. Conservative women, religious
women hate abortion and hate women who get abortion so
much that they will vote against their own best interests.
And we have a co host on this show who
sat on this show two years ago like I'm having

(01:08:00):
an issue voting for anyone who would fucking try to
take the a woman's choice away from them, period, And
she fit all the categories and showed a bunch of
other fucking people I know it felt the same fucking way,
to the point where I know a few of them
at least admitted to me in confidence they didn't even
vote because they felt that they couldn't because there was like,
I'm not going to vote against anybody. I'm tired of

(01:08:21):
doing that, and I have no one to vote for
in this situation. Because remember, there's supposed to be that
red wave in twenty twenty two. No, there was no
blue wave either, but there was more than they fucking thought.
And that's how they got the wins they did get
in twenty twenty two by pulling that issue out and
waving it or under women's noses. And here's the thing.
I don't blame women for fucking getting pissed and being
like either I'm sitting this out because fuck both of

(01:08:41):
y'all for doing this to us, or going well on
this one issue. I'm a one issue voter, boom and
vote Democrat. I don't blame you. You were used.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Overturned. Roby Wade got overturned under Biden's administration. This wasn't
a Trump thing. This had nothing to do with Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
That's that's the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You get that that's not true. It doesn't matter. We're postalganda.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
It's damn propaganda.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Absolutely. It's the same thing with the same thing with
Project is Project twenty twenty five ship get a conservative
a conservative think tanks wish list of bullshit? Yes, okay,
how much of that shit's gonna pay? Here? Did you
know my internet travels? I found a site it says
gen Z's guide, the Project twenty twenty five Voters of
Tomorrow dot org. This isn't the future that gen Z

(01:09:31):
asked for it, and it goes into blah blah, blah blah.
You can click project twenty five climate change, what does
it mean to you? And it'll rescind all climate policies
from its from its foreign aid programs, Cease collaborating with
funding progressive foundations, corporations, international institutions, and NGOs, and advocate
on behalf of climate action. Repeal the Infrastructure Investment in

(01:09:52):
Jobs Act and Inflation Reduction Act and the epas folks like,
just on and on and on, and then you scroll
down and what's you say at the bottom. Help us
build a movement, make a contradiction a contributions day, to
help voters to tomorrow build a new generation of democracy defenders.
You're begging gen Z, the generation who's doing worse than
any previous fucking generation since the nineteence nineteen hundred in

(01:10:17):
this country, for fucking donations on this shit. And this
is the same play they've fucking been running. I said
it in the pregame. This is what irritates me about
the shit. These are the same fucking plays. They used
to run them generationally. Now they run the same fucking
play within the same decade on you people, motherfuckers will
fall for it, because this is exactly the bill of
goods they sold you, fucking millennials, hope and change. Remember that,

(01:10:40):
and excuse me to be sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Super fun in the next ten years, because the chickens
are also gonna come home to roost about how these
kids got fucked for two years in school. Like, there's
a lot of stuff already starting to come back on
that shit. I'll have fun with that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Well, that's that's jen Alpha. That's another fucking topic altogether.
I got. I got sucked into a rabbit hole on
some downtime at work one day, and I started watching
fucking like video after video after video, not ticktoks YouTube videos,
twenty twenty five minute videos, compilations of just teachers going,

(01:11:22):
what the fuck are you sending How are you sending
your students to school who don't even know how to
fucking read? And they're in the seventh to eighth grade.
You got fifth graders that don't understand the concept of
raising their hand, like the concept of raise your hand
to speak, Dude, we're taught that before we even go
to school. That's preschool shit, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Study came out a couple of weeks ago that in
the state of Michigan, kids on average are a grade
and a.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Half behind better than nationally.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Guess guess what region of the country where they're actually
on power or ahead of the game. You're never gonna
fucking guess. But deep South, Yep, there's the spo out
of the country where they didn't fucking shut down school
for two years.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Well, let's be honest. If we're talking like Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama,
those state school programs don't have far to fall. No,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you know what I'm saying, like, oh,
they had the least drop off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Hey, you gotta celebrate your victories when you can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I'm just saying once again, you are no. But I
think Texas micro Dick, are you the smartest kid with downstairs?
But either way, I don't know if you should celebrate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Well, I think Texas was one of those states to Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Florida's weird pending on part of Florida you're in. You
can actually get a halfway decent public school education, at
least when I was going to public school in Florida
years and years and years ago. But then you move
two cities over and it's like, oh boy, I'm learning
how to dodge bullets and cook crack. It's like ten
crack commandments over here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Yeah, it'll be So that'll be super fun with a
a provably dumber population being able to be manipulated in
the next ten years, that's going to be sure. No
one will take advantage of that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
All right, So well, it is back to those voters
at tomorrow dot org website. I clicked on Project twenty
twenty five. What does they have to say about reproductive rights?
According to Project twenty twenty five, an incoming conservative administration
will affirm and abortion is not healthcare, reverse approval of
chemical abortion drugs, restrict restrict access to abortion pills to

(01:13:19):
just forty nine days' gestation, prohibit abortion travel funding, affirm
that Congress should pass the Protecting Life and Taxpayers Act,
which will accomplish the goal of the funding abortion providers
such as Planned Parenthoid, we draw medicaid funds for states
that require abortion insurance audit, hide Amendment compliance, undo Obama

(01:13:40):
contraceptive mandate, and eliminate the week after pill from the
contraceptive mandate. As a potential arbifacient. I don't even know
how to pronounce this work. Hold on abort efficient. Excuse
me so to undo obama contraceptive mandate and eliminate the
week after pill from the contraceptive manmate as a as
a potential abord efficient in other words, of panthe way
of saying a drug that will cause an abortion?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Can we go back to the beginning of that, because this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Is oh what what? What's stuck in your CROs is
at the beginning, stuck in my cross on a coming
conservative administration?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Will abortion is healthcare?

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Like this?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
This is a new one. This is from This is
definitely from the last five years. Let's talk about that now.
This is definitely in my book. This is on a
case by case basis, because in some cases, yes, it
is healthcare, right, if it's it's gonna be the life
of the baby or the life of the mother, I

(01:14:40):
mean right, I mean you go with the person that's here,
I mean right, all right, Now, in some cases it's
not healthcare, Like we've all known that person just might
be friends with him who is really good at getting pregnant,
or we all rich we have the friend who is

(01:15:02):
really good at getting people pregnant. You know, in those cases,
I wouldn't exactly call it healthcare, am I like being
a neanderthal on this or what?

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
No, No, that's not healthcare, that's birth control, and that's
just it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
It's the it's the reef praising and rewording and reframing
it from an elective from an elective surgery to almost
when you're out with this, if you want it, you
should be able to go and just have the government
or your private insurance company or the government insurance that
you have just pay for it, willy nilly whatever, no

(01:15:39):
questions asked, which I find amazing, because there's no insurance company,
there's no medicaid. Medicare is going to do that ever,
So we're already starting off. Okay, an incoming conservative administration
will really outside of memes and people who are absoluutely
fucking stumping for their side and do not care about
being factually correct, I have not heard anything from Trump

(01:16:02):
saying that he will enact all of twenty Project twenty
twenty five, let alone some of Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
He has, in fact come out and publicly distanced himself
from Project twenty twenty five. What is it did he
put out? Was it a tweet or a truth or
a both to where He's like, I got I've read
over this, and yeah, I wish him luck.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Which Trump is sarcastic as fuck or could be. I
guess I wish him luck. And that's his way of saying, whatever,
it's dumb, I'm not going to fucking help you with
that shit. It's not gonna He's right, Honestly, I hate
Trumper's maggots. I hate to break it to you, your messiah.
Cost benefit of analyis on everything, and he understands, Yeah,

(01:16:42):
he understands. This is just as dumb as attaching his
name if he was a Democrat to the Green New Deal,
like the fucking everybody that did that did, because who
got out of that unscathed. It's been fucking going on
double digits worthy year since that shit first got brought
up AOC and the squad still get dinged with that constantly.

(01:17:03):
Trump don't want that on his on his jacket. So
that's what I'm saying. It's I'm sorry, go ahead, Jess.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
He said he knows nothing about Project twenty five. I
disagree with some of the things they're saying. And some
of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I know nothing about it, but I disagree with some
of the things they're saying. That's that's a Trump quote.
I believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's his that's his stance.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have
nothing to do with them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Which is a way of saying nothing essentially, which is
the art of politics, talking loud, saying nothing, I mean it,
what's what's uh? Kamala's uh, saying that they're trying to
push unfettered by the past, unbothered or unbothered by the past. Yes,

(01:17:50):
thank you, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, oh did you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Pick of running me? That's the big news of the day.
She's like, she's like this close, I care.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I heard it like got leaked or something.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
And then she was mad, and then she said she
wasn't going to confirm it until today or tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
You know what's funny, because again, I guess I'm exposed
to the news networks for a little bit each day.
At least. The video feeds awful lot of white dudes
on her pick. The lady of color going with a
white guy like all of the people that are expected
to be her running mate, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Anything more on Project twenty five project excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I think it's just something being used on the internet
to scare everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I you know what. Same to an extent, yes, I
do believe there are conservatives that really want this type
of shit, and that they think that they have fucking
if they if they think they have somebody's ear, that
will bend it as much as they can. But on
the flip side of that same coin, I think a
lot of the UN twenty thirty shit is a lot
of scare tactics too. But just like this, I think

(01:19:02):
there are progressives, I guess I'll reluctantly call it so
called progressives who would believe that, like you know, some
of that shit, like you know, you'll own nothing and
be happy and eat see bugs and live and communal
everything and share everything with your neighbors. But not for
us the top. We still get all our own shit.
We still eat cow meat and everything else. To you guys,

(01:19:24):
you guys gotta share. Absolutely. There's people that want that.
Don't even argue against it. You're wasting your breath and
brain power. It's just there's shitty people. They're called sociopaths, psychopaths,
anti social personality disorder, whatever you want to call them.
They exist. It's a fact. Deal with it. I don't
think they're I don't think either of these fucking Think Tank,

(01:19:48):
fucking thought experiments or anything to be sitting here cashing
your fucking teeth and gripping your fucking pearls about that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
None of them, none of us had heard at the
Heritage Foundation until Project twenty twenty five started being pushed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Right, But no I had because it wasn't it Billy
Graham's Heritage Foundation. If it's Billy Graham's and I've heard
of it, Oh no, No, this is homeboy from Cores.
This says nothing to do with Billy Graham as far
as founders go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Oh so, I'm guessing if you drink Coors, your right
wing is that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Thing sometimes referred to simply his heritage As an activist
con conservatives, think Tank took a leading role in the
conservative moment in the eighties early years. Yeah, Joseph Coors,
Paul Wirich, Edwin Fuelner, Yeah no this, No, No, I
hadn't I. Yeah, then you're right, absolutely, I had never

(01:20:40):
heard of it until now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
So they also had a project twenty twenty. They also
had a project twenty sixteen. They've had their own projects.
This is just this is something they've gripped on to
to try to scare people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
It's propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
No, I mean twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
I truly believe both more people than not are like
I don't give a fuck about Project twenty twenty five,
twenty thirty. I'm going to fuck by any of this shit.
I truly believe that. I think the people that are
fucking having kittens about it because people are upset and
they're believing it. People that are believing it are fucking

(01:21:17):
so far gone on the left there lost causes, And
the people that are upset about it on the right
because it's either not happening or it is gonna happen
or whatever, they're so far gone they're fucking a lost cause.
I think your average person, I don't see anybody whose
opinion I trust about politics upset about this, about any
of this shit online. All the usual fucking poster children

(01:21:39):
for prophylactics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're doing the usual fucking
I got two brain cells rubbed together and let me
fucking show it on Front Street for everybody. Any you
guys have a different experience.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
No, no, just it irritates me. I gets so annoyed
with this stuff. I gets so annoyed. I mean I
see so many people talking about it and talking like
I don't see so many people. I see about four
people who were allowed talking about you know, just.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Pay attention to Project twenty twenty five, and it just
it just irritates me.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
It just it puts me immediately in a bad mood
because it's so ignorant.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
The only thing, and people don't to read beyond a
headline that's all carry on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
The other thing that really makes it to me is
the occasional pro Trump type meme because if anyone is
being lowed, apparently in my what I going from our
Facebook conversation is Facebook's really trying to get me to
engage because I apparently see more unrelated shit than you guys,
So I really don't see I mean I read stories
about on Google News about like yeah, people on the

(01:22:41):
left or clutching their pearls for twenty twenty five, and somebody,
you know, this person sent out a tweet about it.
And this and that, but my.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
At least my feet. I see more recommended shit trying
to get me to engage, and I see my more
extreme friends who Facebook thinks I disagree with.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Oh so Facebook there knows that you might occasionally go, well,
don't you remember, Like it was one of the first
episodes we ever did together.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Dude, I sat down. I was like, Facebook has if
you go into the settings, it's no longer there. They
remove this, but you go in and look up what
Facebook believes you to be as far as where you
are in the political compass. And we all were considered
liberal at the time. I would venture to say, oh, yeah,
you were shocked. I wasn't shocked. Aaron wasn't shocked. Aaron

(01:23:26):
was like, I'm liberal and some things conservatives on others.
I'm like, yeah, like we all are, dude, you're not special.
Stop like we get it. But we were all I
would say, much more fucking the liberal at that point,
because what we believed was liberal is now considered right wing.
I mean, basically, I don't want the government to bother me.
Leave me to fuck alone. I'll leave you the fuck alone,

(01:23:46):
and the government leave us all alone. To make sure
that the fucking trains run on time, and the streets
aren't fucking full of potholes, that's really all. And there's
no one overrunning our borders trying to kill us. That's
really all you're here for now. I don't know what
Facebook's trying to do. Besides it thinks I fucking hate progressives,
and I'm like, nah, most of them are fucking not
progressive at all. They're regressive if you listen to what

(01:24:07):
they bitch about. They bitch about all the same shit
that the Evangelical Christians that were the bane of our
existence trying to have fun. Chris growing up bitched about
too much sex in the media, objective, too much violence,
too too much crazy music, too much drugs, too much
that when the Christians were doing it made sense. You
got you got a book telling you to fucking believe
that shit, What are these idiots fucking doing it for.

(01:24:28):
You're doing the exact same fucking thing. You're the exact
same people that would have been enamored by that book
and been more than happy to get in someone's face
and say, if you do this, you're going to hell.
And God wants you to do this, and God wants
me to take your right do it away from you.
Now you just say, well, Marx wants me to do this,
and Marxty says I have the right take this away
from him, says that's why I have no love for people.

(01:24:51):
And that's why it's hard for fucking Facebook to pin
me down, because ultimately you dig deep enough. Most people
are perfectly happy to wallow hypocrisy. It's I understand, hypocrisy
is not something in today's society we can avoid. But
you don't have to wallow in it. You don't have
to be wanting in your fucking disregard of avoiding hypocrisy,

(01:25:13):
embracing hypocrisy to the point of almost loving hypocrisy, wrapping
yourself in it. But that's what most people do. They
feige outrage at other people's hypocrisy and they ignore their own.
When you get someone like that, it algorithm doesn't really
know what to do. So here's Charlie Parker, here's a
story about fucking Mayhem. Like, how the fuck are these
two things next to each other? Okay, once again, they're

(01:25:35):
just music, that's the only thing they have in common.
But that's like saying ever clear and water are the
exactly drink yeah, and you and you dress them through
your and you drink them. So they're exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
They're not Kalon of one will hydrate you, Gallon of
the other will fucking kill you anything.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I think we're getting near the end here. So one
of the things I wanted to talk about was because
we talked about how the like, I want to come
back to this on a weekly basis, just different observations
I've made about like how they drive a wedge between people.
And we were talking about dating and shit last week,
and I mean, if you're it's kind of maybe the

(01:26:16):
wrong thing to start off with, because we're all fucking
pretty much like you know, Chris in a relationship. Jess
is married. I look at marriage like Jews look at
the Holocaust. Never again. So I mean, like, like, dating
is not really part of our fucking thing, but just
the general wedge they try to drive between men and
women is something I think everybody can see, whether you

(01:26:36):
dip your toe into the dating pool or not. And
we have the Olympics going on, and shit, I should
have done my fucking home on because I know he's
got a crazy name and I'm gonna fucking mangle it.
Uh yeah, use if I got his last name? Okay,
d I k E C how you pronounce that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
I don't know what the site has the little like
squiggle eye at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Corn did you check discheck dick kick turkey?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Is it? Is it? I don't I don't know what
the little fucking under Okay, I I scrolling. I've looked. Okay,
so I'm gonna call homeboy yusuf. All right, So he's
the gray haired guy glasses. He just had like the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
My timeline for last week. What did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
He had like he's an Olympic shooter, and he went
and shot and he just literally stood there with his
hand in his pocket with the little fucking rolling your
you know, roll them up, stick them in your ear
and they expand ear plugs, and his fucking they look
like the exact same branded glasses I wear. They don't
look like safety glasses. I mean, while everybody else had

(01:27:47):
these crazy cyberpunk fucking eyeglass things, superhering protection, highly individualized, stylized,
fucking aiming shit, homeboy just went up there casual as
fucking just just fucking hitting bull's eyes. Apparently enough for
him and his partner to win silver. Now, the whole
reason that he got famous is because he looks like

(01:28:10):
a fucking hit man from a goddamn movie. What is it?
Tom Cruise movie played the hit man and Jamie Fox
is the is the cab driver driving him around all night?
Why he goes and kills people? Do you know the
movie I'm talking about? Guys him two thousands? Do not? Okay,
remember this next time you're playing kiss. Okay, just remember
this to that. I'm not even gonna make the argument again.

(01:28:32):
It's gonna go remember that time. Point is he looks
just like Tom Cruise character who played the hit man
in that fucking movie. And everybody who has a memory
who's not addled by Malton Hopson bong Resin remember that
movie besides on his podcast. So that's where the fucking
that's why he's getting aything. And in the fact that
he's just so casually, just like standing there, just fucking
shooting well enough to fucking win a medal in the Olympics,

(01:28:54):
Like he's just showed up, rolled out of bed and
was like, you got a shirt that says turkey on it? Cool,
I'll put that on one. Well. The media, oh the
Internet did what the Internet did and jumped on it.
Turned them into a meme. People started making them into
fucking anime like characters and shit like that. People started
making memes about him being a hit man, because once again,
it's what he looks like. Tom Cruise's character was a

(01:29:16):
hit man in the Collateral that's the name of the movie.
In the movie Collateral. Well, you never let a good
opportunity to agitate and stir the pot go past. And
of course, after a couple of days of this dude
getting you know, famous whatever, or you know, being memed
into oblivion or whatever you want to call it, here
come the fucking we gotta stir the pot and make
sure people are pissed off. He won the silver. He

(01:29:39):
was on a shooting team. Shooting partner is a female
shooting partner had the exact same stance, hand in her pocket,
she had over the ear ear protection, and obviously had
like eye protection like shooting glasses eye. What I just
described to you versus how you've seen use Off Dickick
or whatever he pronounce his name. Look, can you guys
understand why one was mem and one wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
One just looked like a regular person. And one looked
like they were at the shooting range.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
And the regular person just doesn't roll out of bed
and win a fucking silver medal.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Well too, also did who hit the majority of the
targets with him or her? I don't know who did
the heavy lifting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
It does to me. It doesn't matter if they're a team.
They won silver, period, but I mean they was why
is this man being fun? See? This is just how
this is our guyno centric society who just focuses on
male centric issues and men and blah blah. And I'm
just like, it's the fucking Olympics. Are you serious? Like
this isn't the first Olympics in the Internet era. When

(01:30:37):
we first started doing in twenty sixteen, when we first
started doing Sporgey, we covered the twenty sixteen Olympics. That
was nothing but one giant fucking meme because you had
swim Shady at the Olympics that year. Yeah, you had
a bunch of fucking crazy, bullshit nonsense going on. The
Circus around the Olympics became the spectacle around the Olympics

(01:31:00):
him just as important as the Olympics to the average person,
because your average person doesn't sit and watch and understand
the finer points of shooting in the Olympic sport in
you know, in the Olympics. So it's surface level understanding
and here come And it wasn't just memes. If it

(01:31:20):
was just memes, I'd be like, it's just people trying
to get a rise out of people. I started seeing
articles from more and more legit places, till finally, like
the usual suspects, you're starting to see fucking mentions from
and shit on social media, like you know, jez Abel
or Taku or the Roots, whoever can spin it into
this is somehow you know, racist, homophobic, transphobic, horrible, the

(01:31:42):
worst thing ever, because we live in the worst, horrible,
most time ever, forever ever ever, because we said so. Meanwhile,
this motherfucker ain't What if this motherfucker was in America.
I don't even think he speaks English. His accent. I
heard him speaking, and he's gonna have an accent. You
would not think you would be like, this is an
Eastern European gangster mother fucker or something. This motherfucker is
not what's considered white in this country, yet he's being

(01:32:04):
attacked as a white man once again, overshadowing a white woman.
I'm sorry, she's from Turkey too. Do you get my point?
Are we just see, like, once again, let's dumb it down.
What are they doing. They're taking a situation, they're making
it a hostile situation where there was no point for hostility,
and they're they're they're they're showing you that you should

(01:32:25):
be upset either because you're being called out because you're
heado normative, heteronormative white blah blah blah colonizer and you
deserve to be called out, or you're pissed off because
you're seeing all these white this white male overshadow yet again,
a white female. They're Turkish, they're not American. It's like
calling someone from Jamaica African American. It's just wrong. You're wrong.

(01:32:50):
But it doesn't matter because it stirs the pot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
You know, a very common sales tactic that they teach you. Uh, Basically,
what salesmen do is they create a problem where there
isn't one that they won't that so they can sell
you something. Think about that again. They create a problem
where there isn't one so they can sell you something.
Let that sink in.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
And I mean when it comes to this type of
shit driving a wedge between men and women. That's been
all my life, man, that's been all my life. I
wasn't even fucking thirteen when Roseanne Murphy Brown when those
shows come on, and those shows were very much men stupid, dumb,
don't need them women strong. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
The troupe of the eighties and the nineties sitcom is, yeah,
wife's smart, husband dumb like Home Improvement My family. Watch
that show. They wanted you to think Tim Allen was
an idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
And you take a decade or two of that stuff
that in people's fucking heads via television movies, and you
go from let's say mid seventies to the mid nineties,
and in that span of twenty years, from seventy five
to ninety five, it's went from we really need to

(01:34:01):
preserve the family because it's best for a child to
be raised in a home with two parents, to Murphy
Brown saying I don't need a man to raise a child,
to the point where dan Quail had to come out
and fucking give his goddamn brain dead opinion on a
fictional character. But here's what's pathetic. You know why he
gave his opinion because so many fucking pathetic, weak women

(01:34:25):
who aren't strong and independent latched onto it. Then he
called it out, and then they got offended, and then
they attacked him for calling out because well, you're she's
a she's a television character, she's not real. Then why
did you latch onto her like she was Amelia fucking
Airhard or somebody, Because you're so weak and pathetic and
you have nothing in your fucking life that this is

(01:34:48):
how you get validation and self esteem, which, by the way,
is an oxymoron. You're getting self esteem from an outside source.
It's not self esteem.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Grow the fuck up your family values speech.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
And we are thirty years past nineteen ninety five. Ohmost so,
how much worse has it been? Now, let's look at
the divide. Now, what's the attitude in this country towards marriage?
For the most part, for people under forty, less people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Are getting married when they are they're waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Yes, means less people having children?

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
What else?

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
So, no new taxpayers coming down the pike.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
Which tinfoil hat time. We already talked about it, importing
your fucking future tax base. But whatever, Like, here's the thing.
If they just say, yeah, we're bringing in a bunch
of motherfuckers to this country because we need a future
tax base. I'd be like, yeah, okay, it's one of
the first shows we ever talked about. We talked about,
what are we gonna do with all these fucking miles
of stretches of barren land in Detroit. I'm like, let

(01:35:45):
motherfuckers come in from other countries who have no place
else to go. Let them build up their neighborhoods and
create a tax base. I mean, it's just fucking it's
land just sitting there otherwise, and it's kind of what's happening.
The problem is they're doing the shit in areas that's
like you really want to dump people into New York
City like that, You understand New Yorkers aren't even the

(01:36:06):
average America. You don't take someone who you're trying to
assimilate into America and put them in New York or LA.
You put their ass in Kansas because that's America. But
do you like it or not? Flyover countries a lot
bigger than your bullshit city of LA and your bullshit
city of New York.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Yeah, I mean the media or no silos. That's the
part of the problem too, Like if you are not
from this country and you just watched like the news networks.
You just think everything happens in New York and Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
I mean, you've had this programming to put men and
women at odds with each other, not just in romantic relationships,
but in the workplace. I find it amazing that my
stepmother worked in office in the business world from the
early seventies up until I want to say, five six

(01:36:52):
years ago, so the twenty tens, and when me too
was happening, I talked to it and I was like,
did have you ever had, like been like seriously sexually harassed?
And she said, outside of a guy being persistent about
asking me out, and there was only two of them,
and one of them was your father, so I married him.
She's like nothing that I could even fucking remotely begin

(01:37:15):
to say, Well, she didn't say fucking but nothing. She
goes nothing I could remotely begin to say. Would that
would be qualified as sexual harassment happened to me? My
stemmother was not a bad looking woman when she was young.
But remember this was once again early seventies, woman in
her late teens early twenties in a business environment up
until the twenty ten but that's not what you're sold.
You're told that, Oh my god, across the board it
was basically just rape of women. If you went to work,

(01:37:40):
the men just beat you over the head till you're unconscious,
dragged you by your hair into the bathroom and gang banged.
And then you had to go out and get everybody
coffee because that's why men are. That's how men are.
And then and then with the whole Me Too movement,
we got men now terrified to sit in the same
room with a woman at work because all it takes
is for her to go. He said something I didn't like,

(01:38:00):
It made me uncomfortable, and his life's over with. Please
explain to me why putting two groups of people that
have to coexist, Why pitting them against each other across
the board like we do. Why what what you're thinking?
Caps On? Tell me what is the purpose of that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Only thing? I can come up with this for political stuff,
maybe marketing, Like, what would be the purpose of it?

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
What were you gonna say, Jess?

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
I was going to ask you to the question in
a different way, because I feel like it could go
different ways.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Well politically gen Z and yah, so gen Z and
I guess jen Alpha, even though who the fuck is
asking jenn Alfa their political opinions? Sure, it is twenty
twenty fourth, there's someone, there's someone probably polling fucking kindergarteners
about their political opinion. How do you feel about Dragon
Alpha books.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
They're voting for Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Yeah, that's that's pretty much on the field. But the
Zoomers are basically I mean, you can almost fucking take
a razor and split them down the middle. Men are
way more conservative than any average conservative men from the millennials,
gen X, and the women are way more fucking liberal

(01:39:14):
progressive for lack of a better term, than those other
than millennials and gen X, And it's right down the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Well, more women go to college and men like that's
a fact of the last decade.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
And by the way, twenty years ago, thirty years ago,
when it was like slightly When I say slightly, i'm
talking like less than five percentage points more men going
to college than women, that was an issue, that was
an epidemic that needed to be corrected. Now that women
are like two thirds make up two thirds of college,
which men haven't since what the sixties fifties, maybe of universities.

(01:39:52):
No one. No one's where's the pearl clutching, where's the handwringing,
where's the old Woe is us about all the boys
being and men being left behind? No one cares because
it was never about equality. It was about It's about
people thinking they can grasp power and trying to like
create a monolithic block to grasp that power. And you're
born regardless of your fucking race. There's one of three

(01:40:16):
things everybody on this planet is, and the third one
is like sub point zero zero one percent of the population.
That's that's permaphedite or intersect. Everybody else is male or female.
Even if you're trains, you got to pick aside. I
don't care if you're non binary. When you go to
the doctor, you got to check.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Someth you're your organs have picked aside.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
So the most basic biological difference is used as a
basis to divide us. And it's done in the way
of women compete using gossiping, shaming, and rally gossip about
their their enemies behind their back. They shame them to
their face, and they rally other women and men if

(01:40:54):
they can. Men are more upfront. Men tend to be
more physical. At least thirty forty years ago, it was
much more likely that if two women got into an
argument that it would spread out and infect their social circles.
Where if two guys got in an argument, they beat
the shit out of each other, and they even if
they weren't friends afterwards, they probably left each other alone

(01:41:15):
and went on about their fucking lives. Whereas those women
I've ran into, women I knew from back in my
teenage years, and they're adults, and it's like, we're adults
enough to where like, you shouldn't be as upset about
some of the shit you still are. And I'm not
even talking towards dudes. I'm talking towards other chicks. And
I'm like, you've been carrying that for damn near twenty years, sweetheart,

(01:41:35):
get some therapy. But that is the difference right there.
So right there, what do you have? You have more passive, aggressive,
more behind the scenes. Well, that fits one political point
of view, see everything as a competition, as a zero
sum game. Claim you want equality and equity, but she

(01:41:58):
really want us to be on top with the pyramid
and to rule the place. Now on the other side,
you have men where it's just like does it work?
It does, then why are we talking about changing anything
we're doing? And anyone who does want to fucking complicate it,
we're gonna beat the shit out of until they change
our mind back to something more reasonable, and then we're
gonna sit here and get drunk and talk about taties
because that's what guys do, and that falls or alongline

(01:42:19):
of conservative fucking politics in this country. I don't know,
being let's call Aaron, what about speaker phone he can
accuse me of being reductionist again, because I don't know.
Maybe it's, but it feels like it's literally that is
what how politicians look at the divide and how they
can make you useful idiots for them with this divide. Now,

(01:42:41):
if you're talking about marketing, it's real simple. Who are
we catering to disposable income? We know all this, Chris,
This was part of fucking our education.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yeah, ladies, control the money. You're telling us that twenty
years ago, twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Now here's the bitch of it. I know a lot
of women argue with you. No they don't, No, they don't. No, No,
that's out with it. No we don't. It's like Okay,
first of all is the you're a mouse in your pocket?
What are you talking about? We we're talking about in general,
in general, not in your house. Your house is, and
how the rest of the world works.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I don't know anyone who is married, or I should say,
I don't know anyone who is in a successful marriage
that when their wife says they want something, they don't
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
I think I know three guys who control the pocket
books and their relationships, and they were men who it
was very much to Eddie Murphy joke of like when
Johnny Carson's fourth wife met him and he's like, Hi,
I'm Johnny Carson. She's like, motherfucker, I know who you are,
and I don't know how much you're worth. You know
what I'm saying, Like those women showed up knowing that, oh,
I'm here to take on a certain role, and if

(01:43:41):
I do take on that role, I'll be taken care of.
Do you see what I'm saying. It's not your average
twenty something's got together, got married, had kids. Wife is like, yo,
I'll take you for half and fuck you over for jobs,
so you can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I say, dudes, that dude still write all the checks
to make sure all the bills are paid. Like, oh,
my well, my wife says I wants a dog, so
we're getting a fucking dog, you know, Like, I guess
I gotta figure this out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
I don't know any men who control their finances in
a marriage. I don't know if that's regional, but I
know that every every household that I know that it
is a married household, the woman controls the finances.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
And American women are most oppressive ever been in their
entire fucking history.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Yeah, did you get your your handmaid's tail outfit yet?

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
J Just okay, I'm sitting here, Okay, here's this is
how This is how effective this ship is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
At at digging in to like just the the base
the fucking die that it was cast on a motherfucker,
and that motherfucker being me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
I can't stand that fact. I cannot stand how much
fucking ry, bully bullshit you women get the polls and
act like you have no control when you have the
most control then you. I don't know any men who've
ever had as much control that didn't that weren't using
violence to get that control that women have these days

(01:45:06):
in relationships and in day to day life, I will
be I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm uncomfortable now
sitting in a fucking older woman. No, but if I'm
in a fucking if if I'm at work and I'm
in an elevator and a and like a thirty year
old woman or younger gets in with me, I'm uncomfort
I don't think she's gonna do anything. I don't think
most of them could whoop my ass. I just hope
the camera's work and in case she tried to say, oh,

(01:45:27):
he did something.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
It's common knowledge that and I'm sure I've said this
before on the podcast, but at any given point, I
could look and any woman could look at just about
any man and just completely wreck his life for absolutely
no reason. That is common knowledge. I could very easily
just yeah, that guy, that guy did this to me.

(01:45:51):
You didn't, because that's that's what we live in now.
It's not innocent until proven guilty anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
No, it's believe all women. Yes, it has been that
way for eight years now, since start of Me Too.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
It is it's terrifying, especially as we you know, watch
morals start to slip as a nation. It's it's horrifying
it's God.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
I mean, I I'm really not trying to open up
a philosophical can of worms here, but it really I
don't know if human beings were meant to be this much.
I don't know if human males and females were meant
to be pitted against each other this much to be
in this much competition. Because I don't see this as healthy.

(01:46:36):
I'm not seeing much healthy come out of it. I
just see more and more hurt feelings, more and more hatred,
more and more divide. Everybody assumes the worst, but everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
I just it's is just like subliminal population control.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
I mean, dude, I don't know at this point, gun
to my head, do I think there's people out there
dumb enough to think that they can actually fucking like, well,
if we try hard enough, if we can just convince
people not to fuck and pro create. Yeah, yeah, dude,
there's a lot of dumb people on this fucking planet.
But I don't know if that's like overall some I'm like, oh,
this is the reason why this is happening. To be
brutally honest, I really don't think. I think most conspiracies

(01:47:11):
are fucking people in power delusional about how much they
actually control in this world, and they're basically it's it's
the political equivalent of trying to herd cats. Sometimes you're
gonna get the cats back in the house. A lot
of times you're gonna have to do a lot of
run around chasing the cat. So what I'm basically what
I'm saying is incompetent people try to get to make

(01:47:33):
conspiracies happening, and just pure fucker rehappens because the chaos
of the world ensues.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Well, then that's connected to this thought is men versus
women just so base that it's just so good for
clicks that they've stumbled on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
That here's my thing. There's an inherent jealousy because the
best that all these women are striving for, the best
example of of of of most things these women are
striving for, they have to look at a man, for example,
and so they start to emulate these men in these
positions of power that they covet. The problem being is

(01:48:07):
that these are gumbag pieces of shit who if they
didn't have their positions of power and their money to
insulate them from the consequences of their actions and how
they go about in life. Someone would have put a
bullet in them or they'd be in prison by now,
because most people that have that level of success sociopaths, psychopaths,

(01:48:27):
some some form of antisocial personality disorder. Period. So now
we actually have an entire gender who's been sold you
can have it all, girl, No you can't. You cannot.
You cannot be a girl boss of a fortune five
hundred company and be a stay at home mom and
take your kids to every football, baseball game and hockey

(01:48:49):
game and fucking peach you know, PTA bakes whatever the fuck.
You cannot do it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
All, ladies, Yes, no, you gotta got guys gotta do
it too. You can either like be kick ass dad
or kick ass at work, because I've noticed guys who
are like kick ass dads, they maybe probably get up
to like middle manager ish guys who are kick ass

(01:49:16):
at work, they're like ghosts at their own home because
kicking ass takes tough time.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
Well, that's one of my big unpopular opinions is that
I get really, really really annoyed. You'll see people at
women post on Facebook about I'm a full time mom
and I work full time. No, no, no, you can't,
you can't do both. You cannot be full time at
both because you can't. You can't have your kid with

(01:49:41):
you if you're away of work and you, I mean
one has to take priority over the other.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Yeah, forty hours a week, not use with your kids.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
The problem is corporate America sees women and they say,
how can we sell our products to them? They understand
that line to women flattering validation. I mean, I guess
which falls under flattered. But these things work in general
with women. The problem is is that once you start
down that fucking path, you've just set a precedent to

(01:50:10):
lie to the to the gender that's basically controlling the
purse strings in this country. And that precedent is doesn't
matter what the reality is. You're what you want is
what we sell you and we tell you to want.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
Yeah, you're I mean, you are absolutely correct.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
And thirty forty years ago I would have said men
are much less susceptible to it. Now I will say
men are just slightly less susceptible to it, because I
believe a lot of guys get caught up in brand
horror name shit they worship at the altar of jobs.
They got to have this brand of car, they got

(01:50:47):
to have this brand of fucking geens. They got to
have this brand of shoes, they got to I mean,
we all have our something, but that type of fucking attitude,
I don't. That's not an attitude that like most guys have.
That's an attitude most guys have been taught to have.
It's and it's consumerism mixed with just it's in our nature. Okay.
Women are providers in nature, or excuse me, our nurturers

(01:51:10):
and nature. Men are providers. Okay, when a guy gives
something to a woman, ladies, let me hear. I'm gonna
mangle this bit. Eddie Griffin had a bit where he's
trying to explain to women. He's like, I need women
to understand. Bitches, you got to stop giving your men gifts.
We don't like it. You want a gift, give us
a gift. Suck our dick, let us get some backdoor action.

(01:51:31):
That's a gift we appreciate. Okay, stop handing me shit.
Men are here to give you shit. You have no
idea how much happiness and pleasure it brings us to
give you something, and see how happy it is for
you to receive it. That's our gift. That's your gift
to us, that you're giving to us without even aware
of it. When you hand us something, most guys get uncomfortable,

(01:51:54):
some get offended, some even get mad, like what you
think I can't buy my own shit? Tell me I'm wrong?
So this is just how nature works. Now does that
mean that every guy and every woman falls into this
fucking archetype the fuck? No, of course not, but the
vast majority do. And we are being marketed to in
a way that is not going along with what our

(01:52:14):
instincts say. It is the is antithetical to our instincts.
And once again, your conscious mind may not notice this,
but your subconscious does. And that level of cognitive dissonance,
for that sustained period of time puts an entire fucking
society on edge. Now, extrapolate out from that society the

(01:52:36):
global fucking world, the global village. However the fuck they're
calling it now, what do you have? Gee? Kind of
sounds like what we were talking about early civil unrest
all over the world. Yeah, by the way, did anyone
do any of the fucking homework I signed about mouse utopia?

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
I remembered it this very moment.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
It's high school all over again.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
It's just a good it's a quick Google search and
it's just a Wikipedia and you can scam it and
you over you like, oh okay, I got it. All
I need is to gist. But if you want to
do a deep dive, it's even better. But I will
because because well it's good in a way, because it's
a tease for next week, because mouse utopia goes along

(01:53:20):
with the divide that and and conquered tangential ways. But
enough to work. Are you go Google? Real quick?

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
I Googled and I'm getting the AI overview. All right,
let's see what's going on here. I find it hand.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
He's the secret millennial of the show. He's more millennial
than you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Hey, yup obviously, and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
You know, God knows you're just barely a millennial at
twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
I like, so assume me, I like tech, Well, there
are things you just said it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
No, dude, dude, single you is a straight millennial dude
at least two years ago. Single you as a millennial
dude because you were like I ordered grub or whatever
the fuck I eat and blah blah blah, And I'm like, bro,
you are a millennium like you Seriously, this is the
millennial lifestyle. You're different now, but you also fucking you're
you're working out and you're getting buff and you're all

(01:54:12):
fucking I gotta get my protein in all that other bullshit.
So well to Also, it's not a one to one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
A couple of years ago, well too. Also, a couple
of years ago, Grubhubble was on power with the grocery store.
I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna have someone
bring it to me already made if I'm gonna spend
the same amount of money.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
Hey man, because I don't do shit for any of
those fucking plate no grub Hub, no door Dash, none
of that shit anymore. Every once in a great while,
they're like, please come back, and they're like, here's fifty
percent off. Oh yeah, free delivery fees. Wave. Man. I
got an extra large five topping pizza delivered with some
fucking with a two liter for like fucking fifteen bucks. Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
I'm like, god damn, they like gave you five dollars,
like here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Yeah, I'm like, I that pizza loans twenty dollars. This
was the old things. If it up. Yeah, this is goddamn.
Once again, there is a fucking Dolorean with a flex
capacitor in it's somewhere around here because we just went
back to nineteen eighty five. But no, it's I understand,
I understand, but I get it, believe me. And hey

(01:55:17):
one for a few things going on. I'd definitely be
going to the grocery store right now, but I gotta
spend money feeding someone else besides myself from the moment. Anyways,
all right, so let's wrap this up because yeah, and
hopefully if we all remember preview, next week, we will
be talking about MOUs utopia in the context of dividing
a group of people up so with a new park

(01:55:39):
at Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
Anyway, I'll read it, and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
We're really trying for that Disney sponsorship this.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
Episode, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll never happen ever, Just
go back.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Yeah, have we ever told the story about the NFL
shop coming to us on there? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
I went to them and I think, yeah, I think
I've told that ship for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Oh yeah. They were they were like, oh yeah, let's
take a look at your Yeah. No, They're like yeah, well,
And I was like, man, if they say like you
can't say anything, you go fuck yourself. I don't want
your sponsorship, which is mighty caucasion to me to say
that to the owner of the fucking network who's paying
out a pocket. It's costing me nothing to do this shit.

(01:56:25):
I know that it's gonna cost you a lot of
money for me to take this stand, but that's a
risk I'm willing to take, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Yeah, but no, all they had to do was listen there. Yeah, no, No,
we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Well, that's why we're on the same page. Like, even
when we do butt heads. Ultimately, I've never really seen
either of us be like, we need to silence this
person that we disagree with. What's the third argue too?
We're ready to fucking throw hands, but we won't fucking
silence the person.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
You know, that's that's America, or least that used to
be this country.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
I grew up with this being said to me and
Jess was it. Did you ever hear this growing up?
I won't I might not agree with what you say,
but I'll fight for your right to say it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
Yeah, a couple of times, just from down South, she's
had to have heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
That was the battle cry of my family though, until
I started talking about like, hey, you understand this Baptist
sh it's bullshit, right, Oh you can't say that, Okay, But.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
Up until then, yeah, yes, yeah. My family that's learned
to not bring up religion around my mom still tries
God lover. I think the rest of them can't. Just
kind of my.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Brothers and sisters in Christ. Please let me try to
explain something to you. Telling someone who doesn't believe in
your version of God and the afterlife that you're going
to hell. That doesn't work. That's like me saying, Ooh,
you've been a bad boy. Sanna's not bringing you anything

(01:57:50):
this year. Do you understand that you don't give a
fuck about that because you don't believe in Santa? So
threatening someone with the hell they don't believe in, or
trying to be like, look a, you're gonna us out
on the afterlife the wonderful streets of gold and milks,
milk and honey and float and blah blah blah. I
don't believe in that either, So that doesn't On top
of that doesn't sound like a good time to me.

(01:58:11):
Tell me, Jimmy Hendrix is there, Tell me jim Morrison
is there. Tell me some cocaine is there that sounds
like a good time. That's where I want to spend attorney,
especially attorney where I can't die from a heart attack
or stroke from the cocaine. Let's now I could party
like a rock star like I should have back in
the day. What's doing this on? God's Died?

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
The band in Hell will be way better?

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
Yeah, it's Stephen Kingroe, a short story where a couple
were like, they're they're trying to save one last ditch
mess effort save their marriage. They're driving across like Nebraska
corn country and they run It's not Children in the
corn but name of the short stories is they got
they got a hell of a band. Well, they pull
up into this town and they noticed there's like this

(01:58:51):
big stage center of town. They go in and he's like,
doesn't that waitress look like Janis Joplin, Doesn't that short
ordered cook like a Ricky Nelson? Doesn't that manager look
like Elvis? And it is? And they're in hell and
every night, all the and this this was written in
like ninety one, so like he threw in there, just
arrived on the southbound train. Stevie ray Vaughn. I was like,

(01:59:14):
oh shit, yeah, and it's like and they're stuck in
the audience and it's like how long did they play for?
And they're like all night? How long does the night last?
And like the person looking at it looks at the person,
it's like decades and like yeah, oh, also they kill
you if you don't listen to it, and like clap
and appreciate them. So, yeah, they got a hell of event.
And look up, I think it's in Skeleton No, not

(01:59:35):
Skeleton Crew, it's in one of his nineties. It's ninety one.
And so it might be like I don't know, it
might be like four past midnight Stephen King short story.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Look it up and I just told you how it
goes well anyway, Uh yeah, I can still at jenn
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Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
See ya.

Speaker 7 (02:00:23):
Yeah, it's national run the ground under the pounds, and
I stump the grounds like a big in that offit
and said we.

Speaker 8 (02:00:29):
Back around the tank. You can't off the train. I
wantaf don't come be paying.

Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
I'll be there, but when I leave there, it's gonna
be out some name brother man telling uh it ain't
gonna range. So now we sit there top talking and
I said, I'm trying not to swing some us off
without the day, but that's been the year. Then we
won't forget one nine note ninething going depended, trying to
come to jail. Jig I'm might took hail get a life.

(02:00:52):
Notty gonna say it. No, my catch was bailed to
away game in a man or fair. That's mom, and
have them don't go in the baby man. I'm mother's
black hair act. In the back of pound jackers with
no airs with Cuifer came up with cure for age.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
Make a nigga room to.

Speaker 8 (02:01:03):
Sail, two for days, get back homes and things and bones.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
We're not really it was.

Speaker 7 (02:01:07):
Paying all and long before you left air come through
a bowl a hour and talking to the mount in
the mouth for hour.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Hello, get on, let your.

Speaker 8 (02:01:12):
Brain pree believe that barways moon.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:01:35):
Time close race and someones and every thing a jump
frock of my combone like that there boy with still
say pre big things having every time we meet like
a trastein crack team died the gig our cats coumping
up and down the streets, slam back hand that by
by the day seventy five times days freech doing to
the because we get drunk. They talk as little shouldn't
mind anound punchy cots and gloves. Should have held back,
but you know the bunch wanted to beat you up

(02:01:56):
at the pack of lunch.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
No g to the d to the g T.

Speaker 7 (02:01:59):
You got the sons on the way by the name
of Pado, got a little baby girl for ye joy
that never turn my back on my kids for them.
Should have hit it any pity with a grand good talk. Boy,
you recut to the lamptop. Make a minute for yourself,
what said Lord? Make a man down line of dusty
coat wrecking up a court where we go on the road.

Speaker 8 (02:02:12):
I'm slow up stock control.

Speaker 7 (02:02:13):
Like channing planning to stay on the is on your
movie light Bloy comes.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
Play to Florida.

Speaker 7 (02:02:16):
So I'm like you wanna said, block the quarters, putting
up a bell because the women's in order.

Speaker 8 (02:02:19):
Like a Preevius b's gonna cut your daughter.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
You sell them tunko bells. Then to hit the water.

Speaker 8 (02:02:22):
If you have remember trying to get the five.

Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
I'm a burner cone bee, trying to stay a lit
when you come to exam, when your man not high,
because it's the fat you're gonna ride, yea.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
The idea.

Speaker 8 (02:03:44):
Rain, rain, ray, ray ray about is way way pray, lay,
give the light, gott pspect.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Past the past.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
Pattatt right, sh