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February 14, 2024 114 mins
This week Chris, Rich, and (mostly) Jess talk about: Nikki Haley lost to “none of these candidates”, Biden blames Trump for the border crisis, the 2024 election, women’s rights, relationships, the Grammys, RIP Toby Keith, and Patrice O’Neal. Please follow us on Twitter @genexhaustedpod and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/GexExhaustedPod and download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net!
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Thank you for visiting Christopher Media dotYet. Thank you for visiting Christopher Media
Dot Yet. Hey, welcome togen Exhausted everybody. I'm Chris Rich and
Jess are here with me. Butjust a note before the show real quick.

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Every now and then we have technicalissues and we got to get them
fixed, and then we hook thecomputer back up and something's not routed the
right way. And long story short, I discovered that about fifteen minutes into
recording last week's show. So weare going to pick it up in the
middle of a hot rant. Richesshot out of a cannon. But we
started the show with talking about Bidenblaming Trump for the border crisis, and

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Nicky Haley lost to none of thesecandidates in Nevada, and then we kind
of went into the election. Andyet, like I said, Riches shot
out of a cannon and we're justgoing to pick it up right in the
middle of our discussion. Light onecigarette. They keep it going because they

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change smoke and that's that's how theykeep in business people. And I'm sorry
if you're offended by me telling youbasic fucking reality of how fucking arms manufacturing
and sales works. Not hard tolook up on your own. So when
you get upset, get upset atthe right people. Maybe don't hate people
in the country they've never done anythingto you. Maybe hate the people telling

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you to hate them and their profitingoff of killing them. Just an idea.
I know, what do I know, I'm a fucking idiot, don't
anyway. It just it blows mymind that more people don't look at things
like that, and that Biden canget away with just I mean not get
away with. I guess there's nothingwe could really do, but that I
guess that he has the nerve tostand up and be like, oh,

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yeah, the border security problem,that's not charm. Yeah, really,
we forget about build the wall,build the he was building it. How
many injunctions were fucking like they justlie to our face like again, and
we just we just sit there andwe take it and the things we choose

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to get up in arms about inthis country. And then when like actual
real shit that we should get pissedoff about happens, no, we're good.
Like It's still it blows my mindto me that the Twitter files were
just a fart in the wind topeople like, yeah, four years of
the government's up to some of thegovernment, and then we get proof of

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the government's actually up to something,and because the team that everybody likes is
in charge, we just blow itoff. Like that blows my mind still.
I mean, I don't even reallyit wasn't really blown off though,
it was just that it was censored. It was just kept away where we

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whenever people would talk about it,it was kept quiet and pushed down the
algorithm, you know, like therewas proof that Biden's people went to social
media and media companies and pretty muchtold them to kill that fucking hunter Biden's
story and we don't care, likethey were telling us like it was fake.

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There were what was remember the letterwith the intelligence officials all signing off
and like, yeah, oh no, this is a bunch of bullshit.
Yep, sadly. I mean alot of people came to this conclusion well
before me. But I've had this, I've had this in mind for a
while. All this Huxley was right. All this. Huxley wrote Break New
World flat out basically. I meanI had to look the quote up because
I could give you the gist ofit. Because I had too much fun

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in my twenties, so I can'tremember a word for word, but I
am reading it. But his quoteis, a really efficient totalitarian state would
be one in which the all powerfulexecutive of political bosses and their army of
managers control of populations and slaves whodo not have to be coerced because they
love their servitude. And that's us. We love our servitude so much.
I make a joke about guillotines andpoliticians and Jess's ass whole clinches. That's

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how scared we are of our govThose are masters. We are slaves.
I don't fear my boss, Idon't fear my equals. I fear someone
who has complete control to do whatthey will, when they will, how
they will to me, and there'snothing I can do to stop it.
And the truth is, I'm scaredof them, but I hate them a
lot more than I'm fucking and scaredof them. But once again, I'm

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an idiot. Go back to fuckingtalking about dumbt shit. Sorry that come
on, that's not That's not atyou, guys. I'm just saying no,
no, no one wants to hearthis ship. Who's listening to us,
because it's every week with me,But it's to every week with the
same shit anyway, So I mightas well have my fucking say hey,
logs the internets on who cares aten year battle cry here at Christopher Media
dot net, which wi fi works, which ironically we need the wi fi

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to work for you to hear.Yeah, the whole thing works because of
Wi Fi. Try to explain topeople, you know, I explain this
to someone like six seven months ago. I'm like, they were rallying against
the Internet and all the evil that'scome from the Internet, I said I.
And they were getting into some fuckingearl territory of blaming the Internet for

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everything. And I'm like, theInternet is a moral The Internet exists outside
of our ideas of what is moraland what isn't and what is upright and
what isn't. It does not care. It is like a gun laying there
until someone picks it up. It'sdoing nothing. It has no intent.

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It's not evil, it's not good. It just is until someone picks it
up and ascribes a tent to itvia their actions. It just exists.
That's it. And they were like, oh, I never thought of it
that way, And I'm like,I know, because nobody likes to think
anymore. Let's watch TikTok. I'mstarting to think this wasn't basic knowledge.
Thirty years ago, I just hungout with people who actually read books a

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little bit more than I do.Now, Well, I don't hang out
with these people. I have towork around them books. Hey, hey,
what you read for? That's aThat's not a joke anymore. I
know that's what That's what I read. Why do I read? Well,
you fucking stumped me. But manyreasons, But first and foremost so I
don't end up with fucking waff ofwagers. And then he died of cancer.

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Wow, we're a ray of sunshinetonight. Huh, well, I
mean what else would you call this? We are a When we were wanting
to build the wall, I keptsaying this, like everybody's bitching about we're
building the wall to keep people out, But it's like, uh, there's
walls that build around prisons to keeppeople in. I mean, it all

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depends on how you look at it. Because for all this globals bullshit talk
of you know, oh, everycountry we need to be citizens of the
world, we need to be globalcitizens, and all this shit really really
what all I'm Scandinavian countries. They'reletting a bunch of fucking immigrants, no
skills, no nothing, refugees thatgo through three four countries to come to

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America. You're not a refugee.We'll always get told you're not seeking you're
not seeking asylum if you're going throughthree or four countries to get to America.
And I always like to bring thisup, and I get like,
you know, side eyed, ercalled like the ugly American whenever I bring
this up, Like, dude,is our shit so great that we got
to start go helping everybody else?You looked around a major city lately,

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perhaps one that borders the Pacific Ocean, Like, let's fucking clean up our
own fucking mess first before we startgoing and fucking telling other people how to
live and imposing our way of lifeon them and how we do shit.
But you know what they're doing,they're so in the seeds of their own
destruction. It's not even a fuck. Okay, first of all, let's

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just get this fucking out, youknow, and put this bitchy baby to
bed. Okay. The Democratic Partyis wants open borders because they want to
create new voters. Period. Endof story, get let them in the
country, give them free shit.It was Democrats that did this. Vote
Democrat. It's buying votes. Andit has gotten to the point where even
the most Trump derangement syndrome celebrities areout and about and going Nope, this

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is bullshit. Now, voting forTrump's on the table. Michael Rapaport being
one of them. Motherfucker's got oneof the worst cases of Trump arrangement syndrome
I've ever seen. But you knowwhat finally did it for him. Six
illegal aliens came here from fucking theSouth border and were flowing up to New
York beating the shit out of twofucking NYPD cops and then let loose with

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no fucking bail and walked out ofthe fucking courthouse flipping the bird like they
were tupacing the fucking Red Wings Jerseyin nineteen ninety whatever the fuck four of
which you are now in Calexico,California, who used fake names to get
there. And Michael Rapport goes onhis podcast or he went and streamed live
or whatever the fuck enough he putit out there online and he's this shit,

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Voting for Trump is now on thetable, Dude, you and I
have said voting for Trump, isthat both of us who's out here for
like a decade Like uh huh,well not me. No, You and
I have both said on this microphonelike yeah, that's that's the thing.
Now, if I vote, he'llbe for Trump because I don't want who.
It's gonna be Biden. It's gonnabe Biden, It's gonna be Oh

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god, they're suicidal if they tryto run Harris and who else can they
put in it? This late Daytonget up enough of a fucking of of
support behind to actually be a fuckingthreat that that that that that have to
be like a hail Mary, right, you don't have to want to do
it. Man. Chocolate Jesus lefta bad taste in a lot of people's

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mouths, even people who voted twicefor him. He's pissed away a lot
of good will post presidency because ofhis fucking beef with Trump and fucking I
mean, I get it. Hehad to toe the party lie and he
was president. He is a figureheadfor that fucking party. He can't fucking
let Trump go without getting on hisship. But people forget a lot of
people that voted for Obama twice alsovoted for Trump. People tend to forget

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that a lot of people who aregoing to vote for Bernie also voted for
Trump because those people were voting forreal change in their mind. They weren't
voting necessarily for the man. Itwas what the man represented. So I
don't I don't think Michelle Obama's aviable candidate. That's not a Hail Mary,
that's just going forward on fourth andforever on your own fucking two yard
line. Gavin Newsom, hah,that fucker would get Trump. He wouldn't.

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He wouldn't even have to go far. He'd get destroyed in Arizona.
But I mean, my point isI don't like Trump anymore and anybody else,
but all these fucking politicians fear thisman so much they are willing to
basically do their dirt in broad daylightto try to bring him down. But
those people are pieces of shit.I'm not saying Trump ain't a piece of
shit, but we have almost twohundred and fifty years of letting pieces of

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shit run wild, and shit ain'tgetting any better. So let's let a
different brand a shit run wild.Maybe that'll get better. I don't know,
but I still doubt there's gonna besomebody running against Trump who's gonna be
so motivating to me that I'm gonnago out and actually pull a lever for
any of them. You can votefor RFK. He's making molisons about willing
libertarian. Now I wish I wasstill young enough to believe that that was

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a viable option, But I justnow know the powers to be we'll never
let that happen, and we arenot We are very very much in love
with our own servitude. We arenot going to do anything to change that.
Now here's an ironic part. Ifthey bring in enough people from fucking
shithole countries from around the world andput them here in this country, those

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people will fucking rise up and startfucking t go ahead hunting because that shit
is not fucking that is not beyondthe pale, that is not a bridge
too far for their cultures. Andwell, the other thing you and I
have brought it up. I thinkit's some of our little kitchen chats.
A lot of these brown people thatthey're bringing in hoping that they're going to
vote for them, don't vote theway that they are going to hope they

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vote, especially Arabic and Hispanic people. Ude, Yeah, they do not
vote blue. Yeah. I wasgonna say, there's a lot of Well,
first of all, you got alot of Hispanic people that are Catholic.
M the pro choice is a thingthat is an issue for him.
So they're not going to vote forthe Democrats simply based on that. So

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I mean, right there, whatpercentage of Latinos are Catholic, especially ones
coming into the country. Uh,that's what I'm saying, dude. If
it's fifty and the other religion,that's a lot. Oh you go.
So what I'm saying, Oh youyo, you cross the Rio Grande in
South in South America. J Man'sbig down there, the big guest statue

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of Jesus with his arms in Brazil. In Brazil, Yeah, the fucking
one of the Yeah landmark is astatue of Jesus. But whatever. I
mean, Hey, they could easilysow the seeds in their own destruction through
their fucking hubris. Oh, we'rejust gonna build a big voter base for
the future. We're going to ensurethe future of the Democratic Party. Oh
this is timely because it was inthe news this week. I mean We've

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seen it locally here in Dearborn,with a lot of the school boards and
stuff. A lot of the Arabicparents are going, what the fuck kind
of you know, they're they're basicallyacting like a lot of white people down
south, like, Hey, whatkind of books are in our library here?
I've seen a little bit of that. Oh yeah, no, there
was this one dude. He wasall over the news for a minute because
he was at school boards yelling andscreaming, pretty much screaming a bunch of

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white people going, hey, whatare you teaching our kids? And then
yeah, did you guys see thisyear? This week what was at the
Wall Street Journal called what do theycall Dearborn? Ah something, We're frump
country now something where Wittmer got herfucking perfectly creased panties in a bunch about
it. Hold on, did itcall it? I've said this quote a

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million times this week. Yes,the title of the article is welcome to
Dearborn, America's g hotcab I'm Arabic. That's not fucking wrong, Like it
is the highest concentration of Arabic peopleoutside of the Middle East. Yeah,
dude, you go to Deerbory,you go to Deerbord cert time of day,
you're gonna hear the fucking call theprayer. You go to certain parts
of Deerborn, you're not gonna seea sign in English, except for maybe

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street signs, like any fucking storefront. Okay, if there's English, it
ain't the biggest, fucking it ain'tthe biggest language on the sign frontage,
on the signage. That's what I'mgetting at, Like you might have to
squint and be like, man,is that English? I can't even tell.
I'm just saying this restaurant, canI eat here? The whole the

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whole the whole border thing and andand that bullshit Like this is proof that
none of these people are intelligent enoughto fucking think past the tip of their
own decks. Man, seriously,I'll say Toby Keith died this week.
I'll fucking see I'm throwing in tonsof topics. I'll fucking put this hat
on, Like do we gotta loseanother landmark for us to maybe think about

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typing up security? Do we gottahave something on the scale of nine to
eleven again to go, oh hey, wait a minute, maybe we should
be asking people a few questions whenthey come in instead of say, hey,
come on in. Yeah, butdude, what you have to understand
is that's happening. It's just nothappening in the neighborhoods that you want it
to happen in. It's happening.They're going after the crazy crackers in the

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hills with the guns. They're thebiggest member, that's the biggest threat to
America. Democrats are back in powerand full effect, just like in the
nineties under Clinton in the gang itwas the Michigan militia, the militious,
the milicious. They're the biggest threatto America on Clinton's watch, nine to
eleven was plotted, playing and basicallycarried out. Bush was in office from

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what January twenty first, two thousand, office for nine months, not even
yeah, like you know, eightmonths in like twenty days to be honest,
Like Bush was making any decisions.It was Cheney in them that fucked
up. If if they had gothanded the info and they didn't fucking go
whoa wait a minute, he's beenso busy getting blown in the Oval office

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and fighting that fucking war and he'slet this shit go to hell. No,
they fucking were asleep at the switchtoo. The only thing is,
I won't say they masterminded it.No, that shit was. That shit
was years in the making. You'retelling me that year and yeah, that
was planned and executed in eight months. You are insane, you are and

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people people forget there was one bombingat the World Trade Center in the nineties.
Yeah, and there was attempted onethat got broke up. So that's
three attacks on one fucking landmark.And guess what, not one of them
were in the Michigan militia. Notone of them were crazy crackers in the
hills were guns. But during thatdecade, I was alive. I was

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alive and fucking drinking, smoking,So I was an adult. I remember.
That's who they said we needed tobe afraid of the biggest threat to
our country, domestic terrorist. GWhat does that sound like, guys?
That sounds like now? Sounds likenow to me? Eh, sounds like
fucking yesterday. It sound like lastyear. It's like that meme that has
been going around about your rage ismanufactured and it breaks it down. BLM

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versus the Capital BLM riots versus theCapitol riots. BLM riots lasted seven months,
Capitol riot lasted several hours. BLMriots condemned by mostly Republicans. Capitol
Riot condemned by all Republicans and Democrats. BLM encouraged by media and politicians.
Capitol Riot encouraged only by fringe politicalgroups. BLM riots, police force used,
stay in the Capitol riots, BMLriots twenty three people's plus shot dead.

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Capitol Riot one person shot dead,BLM riots, seven hundred officers injured,
Capital fourteen, BLM, one hundredand fifty plus fed buildings damaged,
Capital one, Federal building damage BLM, hundreds of bit small businesses destroyed.
Capitol Riot, no small businesses destroyed. BLM. No outrage, Capitol Riot,

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national outrage. Even if the numbersaren't fucking exactly one hundred percent factual,
you know, the sentiment is,you live through it, drop your
fucking loyalty and your tribalism to afucking political party that doesn't care about you,
and take a real hard look andthink back what happened in that fucking
summer and what actually happened on Januarysixth, was our government ever in danger

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of falling to those people? Andif you answer yes, how by simply
standing in a federal building and goingwe are in charge. That meant they're
in charge. Now, this silenceis me agreeing with everything you just said.
I got nothing but support. Dowe forget that there was an area
of Seattle that was essentially a sovereignnation where anarchy was going on for two

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fucking weeks, and we're to thepoint where there they are now, the
fucking the crazy ass progressive woe left, whatever the fuck you want to call
it, okay, are now romanticizingand opining away about the days of chop
and Cherry Hill or whatever the fuckthey called it, And I'm like,
are you serious? A drug lordslash like SoundCloud rapper came in with fully

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automatic fucking ak's that we're fucking illegaland basically declared himself king of the fucking
place. Yes you know that shitout of third world countries by the way,
Yes, that's a lord of Warshit. Homeboys showed up with an AK
forty seven and said I'm in charge. Anybody got any beef with that?
Everyone was like, no, mofucker, you've got a big ass AK forty

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seven. Well, a banana fuckingmag We're good. What's that movie?
I'm the captain now, yo,that's that's what they're fucking Oh boy,
this was just dude, I'm tellingyou we are the spoiled middle children of
the fucking planet. The way weact like we have like no perspective,
Like That's the one thing I lovethat Todd brought to the show. Was
like, no, I've been toplaces where there's actual like what is fuck?

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I'm too high for the words I'mlooking for here. I don't want
to use the word desolation. Butyou know what I'm saying, Like he's
seen actual poverty. You know,he's seen people abject poverty versus the poverty
that we call poverty. You drivedown a street and you can see in
everybody's living room that kind of shipbecause they don't have any walls. Like
we take things like shitting indoors forgranted. I'm about to say I was

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just about to say I dated awoman. I've dated a woman whose family
when she was a kid, theydidn't have indoor plumbing with things. They
were really poor. Okay, howabout things like we take things like turning
on the phone. No, no, no, that's that's not who drinkable
water. That's not me fucking beingcontrarian to you. That's me just saying,
like, you know, dude,like that still exists here, but

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that's not the fucking norm that standsout like a sore thumbta you say,
wait a minute, someone case thinkabout it. I've only dated one chick
older than me, and she wasonly three years older me, and this
wasn't her all right, So dothe math. I'm forty six, just
saying someone who's younger than me wasborn and lived in a house and did
not have indoor plumbing in America,in Michigan. In the thumb. That

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blows my mind because in the filmDefense, Oh, I thought I gave
it away? Who was Yea,this depends wearing the thumbs. Dude.
There's some part if you remember thedude the other dude in Oklahoma City bombing,
he was He's from the thumb.He's from like right in the middle
of the top of the thumb.Deckerville. In fact, we were going

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on a vacation. We were goingup to Caseville, and the way you
get there is you drive up fiftythree. Deckerville's up fifty three. Well,
there was there was definitely a detourthat we had to go on because
that section of fifty three was closed. That summer anyway, Yeah, the
thumb. Thank you for visiting ChristopherMedia Dot. Thank you for visiting Christopher

(22:02):
Media dott. We take things inthis country for granted, like turning on
the water and clean drinkable turning onthe faucet and clean drinkable water comes up,
like I've have any of you everlived in a place where that has
not happened, even in the evenin the worst, you know, you
know rich and you were talking aboutthe apartment you lived in as big as

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my kitchen, right, Like didit you still like clean drinkable water,
right? Yes? Yeah, yeah, I mean it was upstate in New
York water, so I don't knowhow clean and drinking, but it was
it was clean and drinkable enough orI wasn't like I'm not drinking that,
like it wasn't like that, Likeit didn't look like the water from the
beginning to walk the line in fulsomeprison. But you didn't fear disease from

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drinking or cooking with yes, no, no, no, just the things
that we bitch about in this country. And I think this is where like
the religion worked on me with havingthis perspect like like I don't know,
just I'm a broken record the thingswe choose to bitch about, like we
don't have like you know, likeit's well worn carpet for me and rich

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strap in Jess. But like howwomen in this country think they're so oppressed,
Like just just go try having avagina in the Middle East. Tried
walking out with it. Like,I'm here's my question, here's my question.
What can't you do that you wantto do? What is illegal that
you want to do that you can'tdo? And Jess, I'm not asking

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you on behalf of all women.I'm asking him, what have you ever
heard question? Have you no?No, no no? Have you ever
heard a woman answer that question?Even without necessarily being asked. She's just
like, well, this is whatI want to do, but I can't
because it's against so and I getit. Abortion to kick back to the
States. Yeah, but guess whatwe were all lied to about that for
what fifty plus years? So I'lldue respect, get over it, Welcome

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to Welcome to the real world.Your government lies to you. You just
figure this out. So besides that, what can't they do? Because I
really need to know the answer thatquestion, because I'm told that outside of
crazy crackers from the hills were gunsliterally hunting Lebron James and his family in
the street of his that women arethe most depressed women besides Lebron James and

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his family. So I need toknow we are we as men stopping you
guys from doing You are asking thewrong person. As of right now,
the only thing you as men arestopping me as a woman from doing is
competing on a sports team with onlybiological women. Snap expecting an answer,

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everybody, That's it. That's allI got for you. She's not wrong?
Did I say that she's not wrong? Like I brought this up.
This came up with somebody the otherday, and I brought this up,
like, uh, because they werethey were they were going hard for you
know, they should be allowed toplay. I was like, okay,
how about you know why junior varsitydoesn't play varsity because those kids would fuck

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can kill those other kids? Likehas anybody thought about it that way?
Like it's a size differential I have. And when we used to do sport,
you I would say it all thetime. I can't wait till they're
dumb enough to put a fucking transman out there with real fucking I'm talking
national champion caliber college football as Ican't wait for it because I'm gonna see

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people get killed in spectacularly horrible wayson live television. I want to see
he's we're up against Frank Ragnow let'sgo, bitch, let's see what happens.
Because, and here's the thing,I don't want people to die.
I don't want people to be maimed, and I don't want people to be
injured for the rest of their lives. But you know what, that's the
only way so many people are gonnalearn. So guess what. Go die,

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Go get paralyzed. Go get towhere literally you can't move anything from
the neck down to the day youdie, and become a burden everyone you
love, and they pray for yourdeath on a daily basis while you're in
the next room having a machine breathefor you, waiting for them to come
in and change the fucking bag fullof shit and piss on your hip because

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you know why, You're a tough, strong trans man and can do anything
a biological man can do, can'tyou? Because the fate I just described
is also the fate of a lotof men who go out there and play
the game, and they should be. They are men who are big enough
and skilled enough to play the game, and it still happens to Now.
You take a fucking five foot evenif the bitch is five foot eight as
a woman five foot nine, goahead and transition. Go up against a

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six foot fucking eight, three andtwenty pound man who can run a four
to forty. It's the same reasona guy who is five to four a
buck twenty who ain't out there,Yeah, he would get killed. Do
you ever notice how every player onhis professional sports team is I don't know,
huge, And if it's not,it's a sport where they can get

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away with size differences like that,and there are sports or it's a sport
that needs size to Football needs sizedifference, as kickers aren't as big as
lineman. Fuck I'll tell you what. Receivers are taller than fucking defensive backs.
That's why most defensive backs are defensivebacks. They were probably high school
receivers, went to college. Noop, you ain't. You ain't the prototypical
receiver. You're not six foot four, two hundred and ten pounds. Guess

(27:11):
what you got decent hands? You'renow a fucking safety you're now a cornerback.
That happens all the time. Theseare people who spend their entire lives,
go to college, and their goalis to make the NFL. You
know what they do. They don'tlet their pride get in the fucking way.
They go, oh, okay,because if I'm not built to be
a fucking center or a fucking defensivetackle in the NFL, I probably shouldn't

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get in the trenches and play withguys who are built and have the skill
set to do that. But thisis just a denial of reality on trans
men's part, and transmit here's thedeal. You really do you ever really
see trans men trying to fight tocompete against men like I think there was
the one chick fallon Fox who's atrans. No, she was a man

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who transitioned. So yeah, noteven in the MMA, I can't think,
go on, But you see allthese guys transition to women and they're
trans women now and they want tocompete against biological women. Now I have
to ask why, and I'm notgoing I will allow myself to fall into
the trap of assuming everyone thinks likeI do, because in my mind,
I want to compete against the bestI can compete against because I want to

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see how good I really am.In fact, I want to be a
little bit unsure that I'm gonna winwhen I walk in, because that's part
of the thrill of competition, atleast to me. But let's say that
person doesn't, this trans woman doesn'tthink that way. What other reasons could
there be? Well, allegedly,Leah Thomps or what's it, Leah Thomas,
the trans swimmer whatever, was anaverage to not very good male swimmer.

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But hey, I'm trans and allof a sudden just dominating women swimming.
Now here's the here's the argument againstthat. That's insane. People are
not that mentally ill that they willgo to that link just to win at
the competition. Now, let metell you something I just spent I just
spent the last fucking four four anda half five months doing the dosey dough

(29:06):
with two fucking very mentally ill anddamaged people. Mentally ill and damaged people
do weird shit that you don't fuckingexpect. Okay, period, and the
fucking story. And I'm sorry ifyou transition, I don't have a beef
with that you transition and want tocompete against biological women and act like you
somehow don't have an advantage or youwant to compete against them in a contact

(29:26):
sport or a combat sport. Fuckyou, Fuck you. If I can't
slap the bitch you pulls a knifeon me in a relationship because the bitch
was crazy enough to pull a knifeon me. You don't get to beat
a bitch's ash just because you tuckyour balls between your fucking thighs. The
rules, say, I can thenew rules good, the new confusing rules.

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I guess when a couple of biologicalwomen die at the hands of these
fucking these these these also stunning andbrave, fucking bio trans women that I'm
rooting for it see some blood.I mean, fuck it. I say
it, and it's mostly in jest, but partly it's like, eh,
you know what, fuck it.Yeah. If you're too stupid, It's
like it's like the line from FightClub. Fuck all these pantas too stupid

(30:12):
to fucking save their own species.If you're so dumb, you're gonna walk
face first into a fucking wood chipperman, do it? Please? Aren't
we talking about we don't need justtoo many people anyways? Like fuck it,
learn learn, go to prison forthe rest of your life. Have
fun in prison, you, transfemales, especially if you if you get
convicted of manslaughter because you're in astate that considers you a man and convicts

(30:37):
you and throws you in a men'sprison, have real fun in there,
home, girl, have real fun. You're gonna be getting. You're gonna
be getting your very womanish prostate tickledup your ass a whole lot. Hey,
how come nobody's pushing to call itwoman slaughter or person slaughter? Come?
How can we get to keep manslaughter? Same reason you can't watch a
fucking television show made in the lastfifty in twenty years with a man who's

(31:00):
competent, supports his family, loveshis family, and actually gives a fuck
about his health and is intelligence.We don't have that anymore, the same
reason you can't. But here's thething, you guys are just being overtly
sensitive. It doesn't matter. Itdoesn't matter if you don't see any good
representation of males or fathers or husbandson TV. But representation matters for everybody

(31:23):
else, But it doesn't matter foryou. By the way, black men,
you do need to see positive representationon TV. Latino man, you
do need to see gay men.You do need to see Who does that
leave that doesn't need to see it. Here's the King of Queens, here's
twenty five fucking channels up, it'sstreaming services of it. It's amazing.
We can find the John in themiddle of the night. Amazing. I

(31:45):
even know what a toilet is.Heard her up, too stupid to put
the toilet te down? Herd herha ha ha. What is this thing
in the middle of the kitchen?That fire comes out of? What's happened?
Like if men walked around being afucking red ass and butt hurt about

(32:05):
how they're represented on television, especiallystraight white men in the last decade.
And by the way, there's alot more that are coming out and saying
they're butt hurt. And even thoughlike I get it, but dude,
you're screaming into the void. Noone's ever gonna have any sympathy for you
in your lifetime, maybe your greatgrandchildren's lifetime, after they've been fucking you
know, after white people have beento minority for I don't know, a
couple of generations or so, ora generation or so. I don't know

(32:29):
maybe, but it ain't gonna bein our lifetime. So you can get
mad all you want. No onecares. How you are being treated is
how they claim. Everybody who wasn'ta straight white man has been treated all
our lives. See, there's aproblem with that. I remember the nineties.
Whatever TikTok tells you, that ain'treality. That's twenty five year olds

(32:52):
making tiktoks trying to tell fifteen yearold's what nineteen ninety was like. Right,
okay, kay, And if you'redisagreeing with me, you're wrong.
You may stop your internal monologue.Know what I'd love to do to these
people, but you never could becausethey wouldn't understand it or get it.
And they just call me a nameand leave, you know, open the

(33:12):
window or the closest door, lookoutside, point outside and go. Men
did that and just wait to beinsulted, then designed it, then built
it. Yeah, I know everythingyou're looking at. But yeah, we're
fucking idiots. And here's the deal. It's not about taking over. It's

(33:34):
not about women replacing men at thetop of the hierarchy pyramid. It's not
about that. Well, what's itabout that? What's it about I never
hear any fucking progressive feminist, woke, whatever the however you want to couch.
I never hear anyone say, wow, they hired another woman to be
an executive. They really need to, you know what, there's been a
lot of female executives getting hired.Needs to be no matter how high up

(34:00):
that executive is. Here's the truth. They'll DEFENCD Kathleen Kennedy, the woman
who has ran fucking Star Wars intothe ground to where it is literally like
they're throwing fucking Star Wars merchandise away. They can't even sell it to Ali's
or big lots, that's how badit is. They're just throwing it away

(34:22):
and taking the losses. This isDisney. She did that with her bullshit,
and these women will defend her simplybecause she has a vagina. Star
Wars used to be a license toprint money. How is that acceptable?
There's no How is that acceptable?How can you preach out your fucking mouth

(34:43):
about equality and this and that andthen just exclude people or promote people,
give people jobs based solely on thecolor of their skin, and they standers
sit down and take a piss,I mean for who they fuck from taught
if that person is white and male, you're not supposed to do that.
But I guess everybody else can't.Fuck double standards. We got like quada

(35:07):
quintuple puckettuple standards. Give it towomen. Give the world to women,
every fucking every woman, boss Iever worked for it. I have nothing
but fucking the great things to sayabout So what could go wrong? Give
it to women's cars. Here's thething, I'm not losing anything. I
have no control. Remember I'm theone who's fucking sits here and tells you

(35:29):
that control is an illusion that youconvince yourself you have so you can sleep
soundly at night. Because if thereality of how fucking rudderless and just trying
to kill you the world is atall times, if that came through to
most people, they couldn't sleep.They would drive themselves nuts. We always
seem to get here. Huh.It's you know. I recall back in

(35:51):
the day when at the end ofthe night, my dad would lock up
my mom and my sister and admonishthem. If Kanye was trying to be
a Kanye West has to pay KimKardashian two hundred thousand dollars a month in
child support. Kanye West does nothave anywhere near Kardashian money. In fact,
there's memes floating aro out there,memes. Take them with a huge

(36:15):
chunk of sault. But because now, whether you like or dislike Taylor Swift
now is whether you are a Republicanor a Democrat, or you're a closeted
homosexual or you just admit that you'regay because you can't be straight anymore.
This is how the internet is couched. This So this meme was Kanye West

(36:37):
worth four hundred million dollars, TaylorSwift one point one billion dollars. She
could buy him and then have sevenhundred million leftover. Okay, what does
that mean? Jeff Bezos could buyher and have billions left over? What
does that mean? My point?Okay, I'm not you. Kardashians have

(36:58):
Taylor Swift type money. They gotmoney into billions. Kanye don't. Why
is he paying two hundred thousand dollarsa month to a woman who has billions
of dollars in the bank because kelmore money than him? Dumb mass got
married in California like Adam watch allof scale. He's got to pay fifty
grand a month to his ex wifetill his kids turn eighteen, and then

(37:21):
after that he's got to pay yourthirty grand a month for the rest of
her life because California. Imagine,I don't know what I would do.
I just just tell them you ain'tgot it. Man. A lot of
these fucking family court laws were startedup by a lot. It wasn't the
fucking Oh, don't get me wrong. There was the femin Nazis fucking screaming

(37:42):
and crying and trying to manipulate thecourt and the legal system into their favor,
which they did, But they alsohad a lot of help from Republicans
who were evangelical Christians back in theday because these laws were and these laws
they clearly favor mothers and women infamily court. We're put there to keep
men from leaving their family and thestate having to take care of them.

(38:07):
Okay, so these laws, bytheir very cocksucking, fucking nature are punitive
towards men. Or did women notcare about this until they fucking grunt out
a man of their own from theirvagina? Then they care because women are
always crying about fair and equality andthis ain't fair, But they don't give

(38:28):
a fuck when fairy when no oneelse gots it fair. So that's my
question. Where all the fucking womenburning down fucking courthouses and family fucking law
centers and shit going, this isfucking completely unfair. Why don't we have
a summer of love three point zerowhere we go fucking run through the friend
of the clunt. Just go tearup that fucking government agency. Oh,

(38:53):
that's right, because everybody's self servingwhen it comes down to it. Right,
But these are the same people aregonna tell you you need to give
up what you got because someone elsedon't have as much as you have and
it's not their fault because reasons.So just shut up and give them what
they got because it ain't fair.But oh, keep your hands off of
mind, sweetie. You've never understoodthat what do I got to give?

(39:14):
But now you I look at itas I give in every two weeks in
the form of the jack that it'staken from me from both Washington and our
state capitol. You know, oneof the rebuttals I'm used to hearing from
like my type of just rant andI went on, is well, I
know women who they don't control thefinances in their family. They don't run

(39:37):
their household. And you know allI got to say to them, why
not? That's the default in thiscountry. And I'm a Chris nineteen ninety
nine, September, Southfield, Michigan. I'm familiar sitting in mister Kernan's class,
and he broke down who controls thepocket books in America in nineteen ninety
nine, a quarter century ago?Who was it women? And that was

(39:58):
well known in Yes, why doyou think most radio stations when radio was
profitable, we're catering towards adult womenbecause that's who makes the spending decisions.
All your bullshit falls away when moneygets introduced. Because these are exactly what

(40:22):
you call them, comrades. Theseare greedy capitalist pigs. They are not
loyal to any cause, any ideology. They are only loyal to the green
and believe me, if it cost, if they did not, if they
earned one cent less because they didn'tcater to women when women were controlling the

(40:43):
purse strings, they would shoot themselves. And then well, no excuse me,
they would fire with a golden parachutethe executive who made that decision and
an install an executive who were goingand be like, okay, I know
how to read a fucking float chart. We're gonna go after the women and
they've been doing so is that justdoesn't happen? Really? Why not?

(41:04):
Why not? Why doesn't it happen? Because that's the default. So I'm
tired of people going, well,I know a person, I don't care
about a person. I don't careabout five people. You know, I
know thousands in forty six years,and this is how it is. So
you explain to me why they aren'tthe fucking normal ones? What what's different
about them? That's the that's what'sreally good. That's the conversation that needs

(41:28):
to be had. Women women won'thave and you cannot fucking find common ground
with someone who will not fucking engagewith you. Nope, your best best
to just leave the conversation. Soexit the chat. What's the thing now?
Everyone says blank and blankets entered thechat. You should exit the chat,
leave the chat, whatever nom youdesire. See, I just don't

(41:50):
think here's it. God, it'sso irritating because I know there's I know
there's someone out there going, we'renot all wamite, Okay, yeah,
wonderful, great, wonderful. Whenwe generalize every other time, no one
has nothing to say. Now it'sa problem. But okay, it's not
Okay, it's not all women.Okay, fine, fine, fine,
But here's something I've noticed. Andif any man who's being honest will tell

(42:15):
you and be honest with you,he's noticed it too. When a woman
walks into a room full of men, full of women or mixed company and
announces how her ex husband, boyfriend, whatever, cheated on her, beat
her live tour, stole from her, whatever it was. Now a man
walks in to a room full ofmen, room full of women, mixed

(42:37):
company, says the same thing.He'll be greeted with mostly blank stares and
dead silence, and one or twoborderliner, fully autistic cocksuckers will be like,
well, then you need to makebetter choices when you pick partners and
women. No, simply you havethat stiff upper lim it's right, yeah,
Like this is the same gender thattells me I have to care about

(43:00):
out their issues. I have toI have to be an ally. I
don't have a choice. Turned fuckyou you're man? Why because you're a
man. What does that mean ifI do that to you, I'm a
oppressive asshole. But that behaviors allowedtowards me. Okay, which is I
just discount these people. I justas soon as I know what I'm dealing

(43:20):
with, Like, it's okay,I'm looking for the exit in more ways
than one. Absolutely, dude,I have Oh god, I gotta I
want to work. I've done acouple of years. I've just done wasting
my energy and dipshits. I've inthe last four three or four years,
like I've really learned the power ofwalking away. Yeah. Great, because

(43:45):
when you clearly lay out boundaries andpeople repeatedly step over them, it's real
simple with me. Now you're done. If I get second chances are rare,
you need to take better advantage ofthem. I give you a second
chance. I really really care aboutyou. I really want you to fucking
succeed. I really want to seeyou do well. If I'm giving you

(44:07):
a second chance. And dude,people I've just met known less than a
year to people I've known for almostthirty years. Obviously, people don't take
me seriously because they just don't believeit until I they're watching the edge of
my ass walk out of door andnever fucking and that's it. That's just
it. I'm not gonna like thisis part of getting older and maturing.

(44:27):
I'm not doing this shit anymore.I don't have time for this shit,
and I you cannot explain that topeople who want to engage in nonsense and
completely just essue reality. And I'mtired of like, I have no fucking
time for those types because I don'teven care. Here's the thing. They're
gonna be fine, but people willget mad at me and go, well

(44:50):
and come up with fifty a fuckinghorrible, horrible, Well, what if
they grew up in the home wherethey were sexually well us of the beating
a ball ball a ball. Okay, so you've dreamed up a scenario that
is almost like statistically impossible to happen, and you want to act like that's
the baseline. Now, this ishow these people argue. This is how

(45:13):
these people see the world, andyou try to fucking show on reality and
they just no. What choice doyou have but to disengage or just let
them drive you insane. Disengage becauselet them drive you insane gives them the
power. Disengage you get the power. Yeah, I'm out of here.
You can be crazy by yourself.I don't even care about power. I
just want to know, are youbeyond fucking are you by are you beyond

(45:37):
help? Are you beyond any attemptto try to talk to you? And
once I get that fucking answer verydefinitively and clearly, I okay. If
the answer is nope, I'm notgonna listen. Bye. It's not about
power. I'm not trying to fuckingThat's what people don't understand, Like when
someone walks away and stops arguing withyou, when someone blocks you online,

(45:58):
when someone unfriends you, when someonejust deletes the thread that you were fucking
going back and forth in. Thepeople that aren't doing the deleting, the
blocking to whatever take a victory lap, and it's like, yeah, but
this is part of your problem.You're so focused on short term wins.
You're not looking at the long termpicture. You're winning, but at what
cost? I'd like to ask themhow that mindset's serving them in other parts

(46:21):
of life, the windowing of theirsoul, so to speak. In my
experience, dude, these type ofpeople have if they're very lucky, like
the friends I'm referring to that I'vehad to cut off that I've known them,
for it. Well, the peoplethat I was friends with for almost
thirty years that I've had to cutoff. They don't have many friends that
aren't friends from thirty years ago whogot that, like we've been that sunk

(46:45):
cost, fallacy, loyalty they don'treally have. They kind of have a
new crew every couple of years oreven more frequently than that. And once
you start seeing it, once you'reold enough to see these patterns, and
you see them in your friends,and you see them in people, and
you see that they have no interestin acknowledging these patterns exists, acknowledging the
reality of their behaviors. They dealThey do not want to deal with the

(47:08):
consequences their behavior elicits. What choicedo you have but to walk away or
just sit there and keep feeding theirdelusions and giving them more ammal. They
do not accept reality on realities terms. And I mean it's even worse when
you're an old fuck like me andit's someone who's in their twenties or thirties,
because you're looking at them going Ican save you a lot of trouble

(47:30):
if you just sit out and shutup for five minutes and actually take the
heart what I'm saying, don't getoffended by the way I'm saying it.
Listen to what I'm saying, thinkabout why I'm saying it, why I'm
even talking to you and taking thetime to then think about the fact that
do I even talk to or takethe time to talk to anybody. So
if I'm talking to you and tryingto help you, you you better fucking

(47:51):
unfuck yourself most ricky tick. Idon't know any other way to put it,
because you're stupid if you don't fuckingunderstand that. And dude, there's
a lot of stupid people out there, people who just don't don't care,
don't want to help. I don'tneed help. I know, I'm I'm
fine, I'm perfect. Okay,cool, Well, good luck on your
perfect life. But you know aswell as I do, dude, those
type of people. Unfortunately my I'mthinking of a handful of people that I

(48:13):
have known for like I said,going on three decades. They only got
worse as they got older. Now, my problem is when I meet people
and I see that shit boy,they they're put on a very short leash.
I just I'm I'm too old forthis shit, man. I don't
have time to play these games,and that's all this shit is. Like
I honestly I people we talked aboutthis earlier. People vote their their their

(48:36):
wallet. Yeah, but I alsothink people vote their piece of fucking mind.
And I'm sorry. I don't wantto put someone in fucking a position
of authority over me, who's gonnabe screaming and yelling in my face about
how much of a piece of shitI am because I don't give enough of
my money to people who don't havemoney. And oh and by the way,
I've talked about this before, soI won't go back over it.

(48:57):
But the logic doesn't hold up whenit's like, well you who you should
give to people who have less thanyou? Who have who has less than
me? That's around please point themout. Why do I have to give
up like literally me who's never fileda tax return over thirty thousand dollars in
a single year, I have tofucking give more to who? And why
do I got to give up whatlittle bit I can fucking scrounge for myself?

(49:21):
Because this is where people are allowedto make and use the broad brush
because you're white and you have agood I'm white and I have Okay,
Well hasn't that been told to youessentially, or do you have privilege?
Well? Yeah, I mean,yeah, dude, but I'm told a
lot of shit by a lot ofpeople. What I'm saying, I'm still
looking for my white privileged checks.Like that I changed my address with the

(49:43):
government. I still I didn't gethim at the old house. I'm still
waiting for him here at the newhouse. I think it was like,
I don't know, five six yearsago, I was talking with a friend
and this is one of those friendsthat he had a vague idea of how
I, you know, my childhoodcoming up and all that shit, but
he didn't really have a deep understandingof it. And like I told and
I told him, like, youknow, yeah, there was times that

(50:04):
like I lived in a house foryou know, five six days a week.
We didn't have electricity. We dida whole lot of getting evicted and
moving out in the middle of thenight to avoid getting evicted. You know,
all the different schools I went to, how many times I changed school
at one point in my life forthree years, we moved every six months,
almost like clockwork. And he's likethe fact that you're not a serial
killer, and you're as fucking andI swear to guy, this was his

(50:29):
words, not mine. I'm nottrying to toot my own horn. He's
like, and you're as fucking intelligentand as literate as you are. Where
the fuck how? How? BecauseI know the environments you're describing and all
the qualities I just described about,you are not fucking nurtured in those environments.
And so if I was privileged,and I have people who have worked

(50:52):
in these environments going you came fromthese environments, Yes, you're not privileged.
In fact, I'm surprised you caneven string together a sentence is not
monosyllabic. Once again, we're buttonup against reality and what people want the
world to be versus or excuse me, we're button up against reality versus what
people want the world to be.That's what men say. We've said a
million times on this show. Peoplewant the truth, to give it to

(51:13):
them. Thank you for visiting Christophermedia dot net. Thank you for visiting
Christopher media dot net. Yeah,and if anybody listening the he Man Woman
Hater Club, we didn't run Jessoff, because at least I don't think
we did. She had a butshe she said she had a family emergency.

(51:35):
And if I think if if wedefended Jess, she'd let us know.
That's just my opinion. Though Jesshas stepped away, she might be
she might not deal with it yet. We got some family shit trying to
figure out, so on my sunglasseswhen I said deal with it, trying
to be like the meme or giftor jiff or whatever the fuck? Yeah
yeah, oh but she was hearingthe show. Fuck, I guess I

(51:57):
better find out where she was.Well, I mean, it's just us
now, unless she comes back.I know neither of us watched it,
but I know two things about theGrammys. Jay Z is upset that Taylor
Swift won a Grammy or won aGrammy against his wife and Tracy Chapman and

(52:19):
whoever the dude who sang the duetwith her. Everybody's posting that song.
Everybody loves that song, and I'mlike, that song is like almost forty
years old now, and if youlisten to the dude's cover, it's a
note for note cover like it's not, which I've always been a proponent,
like if you're gonna like cover asong, cover a song, but everyone
exactly like, Oh, it's sogood. It's it's the same thing.

(52:39):
He just sang it like the instrumentationlike everything, like so, I don't
know, it's listen everyone, everyone'sI think the last year, so country
music is having a moment. Likeif you look at the top, like
ten songs last year, all ofthem were like country and that's kind of
a big deal, Like every country'sgot a black friend? Is that what

(53:00):
this is? I don't know.I always thought that this song is more
of a folk song than anything thatwas the song when I was in elementary
school that eventually came on when itwas time to buy a nice pair of
slacks. When I was in highschool, Tracy Chapman, Needy Bakal and
the new Bohemians in the cock rockworld, you had Jellyfish. These were

(53:20):
all artists that seemed to me thatthey were kind of almost throwback artists to
the sixties seventies, but they wantedto try to keep one foot in the
present at that time, which wasthe eighties. So I just thought it
was I guess it made okay thecover of whoever the dude is, I
don't know his name, doing TracyChapman, Fast Car that makes more sense

(53:43):
to cover it. It's a folksong or a neo folks song, however
you want to fucking put it.From the eighties, it lends itself to
more of a country cover versus likeI heard an R and B cover of
a dude singing You're Still the Oneby Shania Twain. Have you heard this?
Oh God, it's very strange listento a dude saying you're the one,
or you are the one, You'rethe one, that's one, still

(54:06):
the one, still the one that'sit? Still the one? Yeah,
I think Orleans, but yeah,that's instant, that's not the Ryan.
I guess. I have no idea. I just know that at my last
job, one of the people wouldplay in his playlist and I was just

(54:28):
like, that is the strangest fuckingcover to hear coming out of a fucking
R and B like singer thing.But I mean, I dude, country's
been the ship for a minute,and to be honest with you, the
last ten years, it's really kindof been like what country and hip hop?
Yeah, but I actually read anarticle on it chart position. It's
having its biggest moment chart wise sincethe seventies, Like it's but this has

(54:51):
been building for the last decade.I've seen that and I'm not even I'm
not sure country well, because nowit's it's it's pop music. Like yes,
me, now that's rock music.Now, you know they throw in
a fucking uh, a lap steeland a fucking violin under a rock song
and they call it a country song. Now, just what I was in
the country there's a few short months, Thank you COVID, but did me

(55:15):
a favor. But you know Iwas. I was spending all that country
music on a radio. It's fuckingit's popping rock music. Now it's it's
popping. It is the pop androck music we grew up with. That's
where it is. Now it's countrymusic, and they just they label it
country. Like if you're a songwriter. Now, if you're like we were,
you know, you're teenager and you'vegot your acoustic guitar and you want

(55:36):
to write songs and all that.You know, for us, it was
moved to La or New York.Nope, now you go to Nashville because
unless you wanna, unless you wanna, unless you can also dance and look
pretty on a fucking magazine cover orthis that's showing my age, I look
pretty on social media, like,if you're a musician, La or New
York ain't for you anymore. TrustHave you ever heard check out a fifteen

(56:00):
year old playing guitar? The onlyone I knew at the last job he
was in the country, that's whathe wanted. You ever heard of the
Faster Horses festival? Oh yeah,yeah, I was at the first one,
like ten years ago. Oh butanyway, I was. But just
while I was watching it, Iwas watching some band was on the mill.
I don't even fucking remember who theywere, but it hit me.

(56:22):
I was like, oh shit,this is where rock music is now,
because it was guys that were likemaybe ten years older than me at the
time. Maybe maybe who am Ikid? Maybe like five years older than
me at the time, but itwas it all looked like a bunch of
long hairs who were like, well, if I want my job to be
playing guitar, this is what Ido now. Oh yeah. There's a
couple country groups that have definitely employedold guys who might have been like what

(56:49):
you would consider guitar heroes in theeighties, but they were holdovers from the
two thousands and twenty ten, sothey're now like, yeah, I'm even
talking about some of the bands.I was like, oh, you guys
are like a rock band five yearsago. But if you want to be
in popular music and you want toall play your instruments, this is how
you do it. Oh there isthat. I mean Hoodie and the Blowfish
because Darius Rutger went and started singingcountry after he tried to do R and

(57:13):
B. Now you know people whowere like, oh I love Hooty and
to both Fish, both Blowfish.They're the same people who and I'm talking
young people now, I'm not talkingpeople our age, talking people in their
twenties maybe touching thirty, and they'relike, oh love Hooty and to Blowfish
and they know him from country becausethat's who the demographic has shifted for bands

(57:37):
like Hoodi and the Blowfish well too. Also, he's had a considerable country
career. My ex wife used toplay that stupid wagon Wheel song all the
fucking time. I feel bad becauseOld Crow Medicine Show covered it originally back
in like two thousand and eight,two thousand and nine, and they did
a fucking awesome cover of it,and then Darius Rutcker covered their version of

(57:58):
it because it was originally a Dylansong. So it's like this, So
this song died a bad death becauseof because of Darius Rucker. But whatever.
But no, I mean like andlike. Another band that I feel
like could make the jump from popmusic into like the country realm without too
much of a stretch, would bea band like Matchbox twenty. They're still

(58:22):
around. I'm just saying I cansee Rob Thomas dancing around a lot of
denim on stage, singing with acountryfied version of push or It's three am.
No. I learned when I wasworking at the country radio station.
There is a John bon Jovie countrysong. He's sang it with somebody else,
and you can definitely tell that hewrote it, but it's considered the

(58:43):
other person's song. Yeah, evenold mister big Hair New Jersey himself has
a country song. There you go, Hey, mark the time doown.
I'm sorry, I gotta take apiss out of nowhere. I don't know
where this came from, but Ifeel like I've been drinking beer. I
gotta pick so bad, so giveme one second, all right? And
then getting back to the Grammys.Here the you seem to know more about

(59:07):
this than I do. I knowthe gist of it. Jay Z got
up there and fucking did his Kanyeimpersonation. Fifteen years later, he got
like that the Doctor Dre Global ImpactAward. What So, you haven't won
enough Grammys, but we're gonna acknowledgeyour whole lot of work type Yeah,
And I believe him and his wifehold the most Grammys ever. And I

(59:30):
think Kanye in there too. Thethree of them have the most Grammys ever.
And he uses the opportunity to sitthere and talk about how his wife
has the most grant but she's neverwon Album of the Year and if this
has to change or you have todo better some shit like that, And
I'm just I'm to the point,like we talked about the spoiled middle children

(59:51):
right like this First of all,to me, this comes off as rich
people who are whining about Uh IGod, the perfect analogy the other day,
and I wanted to make sure Isaid it on the show correctly.
God damn it. Like he remindsme of like the fucking the rich girl
in Willie Wonka, Like you're upthere having but one like the most of

(01:00:12):
these things ever talking about. No, this is it's like you didn't get
oh wait, I got it.You're they're acting like a fucking rich kid
on their sixteenth birthday who got acar, but it's not the one they
wanted, Like what Volvo I said, I wanted a Beamer, motherfucker.
Well, or you got me theBeamer, but I wanted the blue one.
Yeah, you got me red Yeah. Like to me, that's how

(01:00:34):
it came off. And I'm alittle tired of people with seven figures talking
about oppression. People who make sevenfigures, fuck that, people who make
over five figures a year talking aboutoppression, especially those two. You know,
they were a part of the biggestreal estate transaction in California history,
and I believe it was all fuckingcash and it was last year, and

(01:00:58):
you can look this up like whatis he bitching about? And I'm sorry,
and it's just known the man's history, and being my age, one
of my first reactions to was like, hey, weren't you a fucking drug
dealer. You're gonna get up hereand be all high and mighty, now,
weren't you selling crack? Weren't youfleecing your own people? But whatever,
we're not supposed to remember his earlyalbums, Right, yeah, you

(01:01:19):
never noticed that, Like there's alot of forgiveness for artists in the hip
hop and R and B community.Jay Z sold drugs? Was it?
Nicki Minaj or Cardi B admitted tobeing like drugging men and stealing money from
him when she was turning tricks.Cardi Okay, And I'll be honest here,
you think jay Z was selling awhole lot of fucking drugs to rich

(01:01:40):
white people? I mean, I'msure. I forget the song. It
comes up on my playlist every morningand he and he makes it and he
says something about I ad to cracka is it something about crack? And
then he says I had to cracka smile when I said that, and
he was basically he was making itwas in the window about used to sell

(01:02:00):
crack. That's my track White.He wasn't exactly the big, the dominant
demographic for crack. One of hissongs, one of his songs, he
drops the address of the fucking McDonald's. He used to uses it basically as
a stash place like heat the bathroomMcDonald's and blah blah blah blah blah.
I forget what song it is,but he liked he drops the he fucking

(01:02:22):
drops the address and the exactly wherehe stashed it in the McDonald's bathroom.
It's like, you gotta be fuckingkidding me, dude. It's like,
what do you think funded his firstfucking two albums? And I mean,
here's the thing, Like you haveto have such fucking cognitive dissonance going on,
because it's like, well, wehate the CIA for bringing the drugs
in, but we don't hate thecartels because that's the only way they can

(01:02:44):
survive. But we hate the CIAand the government for allowing it, but
we don't hate the crack dealers tosell it and spread misery and fucking shit
in our neighborhoods. But we youknow, we hate the cops who arrest
us, but we don't hate thepeople who are cutting it with fentanyl and
killing people. Right. Yeah,I don't understand your your, your your

(01:03:04):
your your, your coat of whatI guess you call it ethics. I
just kind of think back to,like, outside of weed and acid and
shrooms, if I think back tothe sixties, the definitive statements on the
harder drugs, like Steppenwolf had asong called the Pusher where they flat out

(01:03:27):
call for God to damn the pushersin this world to hell. You know
what I'm saying. Like that,they're not singing about dudes selling weed or
acid or shrooms. They're talking aboutmotherfuckers selling heroin and coke and hard shit
back in the day. Yeah,like this generation, like the Boomers at
least went you know, hey,look, there is fucking good drugs and

(01:03:50):
there are bad drugs, and let'snot celebrate the people who push bad shit.
Our generation, Millennials, we got, we we literally had. You
are literally glorifying drug dealers and demonizingpeople who get up there and thank god,
who aren't who are white with afucking cowboy hat and jeans on into
Grammys. That's a problem. Butthis drug dealer get up there, thank

(01:04:14):
God, and the bitch about howoppressed him and his fucking billionaire wife are.
And I mean, here's the thing, Like anybody who looks at you,
well, you look at jay Zand you see a drug dealer that's
racist, really really talked about itfor fucking four albums. Toby Keith just
died and they got called He gotcalled a racist because he didn't like the
fact that Arabs were flying fucking planesin the buildings with three thousand plus people

(01:04:35):
in them. Yeah. Yeah,And when he died, I didn't have
to go online. I knew Iflow hanging fruit that you knew. I
knew exactly what they're going to say, like like it's congratulations, social media,
you are predictable and boring to me. So he and I think that
song sucked a courtesy the red whitelass, the American Way, American Way

(01:04:59):
trust put a boot in his ass. I'm sure there was someone. I'm
sure that was ad nauseum, butyeah, I mean he's racist for that,
He's this for that. Why arewe celebrating the life of this fucking
cracker, ass cracker? What thefuck? Fuck this white he fucked this
male monkey Honkey Kong motherfucker. Hopehe died, Hope it was pained.
I've read all that shit. Man'snot even been dead a full fucking four

(01:05:19):
days. I've read all that shit. But yeah, jay Z was a
drop dead Anybody that would say,fuck that drug, Oh, you racist
piece of shit. Yeah, Oh, we're gonna judge a man on the
mistakes he made in his past.You do it to white people all the
time, and I'm sorry, whatis okay? You wrote a bad song.
That's Toby Keith's mistake. He wrotea shitty song. But being mad

(01:05:41):
at civilians who had nothing to dowith anything that those people were fucking trying
to kill them over that's racist.Racist to be mad that were being targeted
by fucking terrorists because they don't looklike us. Was it racist? Did
the British use these tactics against theIRA during the troubles? Because I don't,
I don't think so, you knowwhat I'm saying, like like it's
just yeah, it's it's and andand what people forget to like, I

(01:06:06):
don't know, listen getting on themgetting soft, you know, but like
that was somebody's brother, husband,father, son, uncle, But whatever,
he wrote a song you didn't like. I mean, dude, I
unfortunately, man, we live thisis the world we live in. People

(01:06:26):
grab one fucking thing sixty two probablysomebody's granddad, and people grab one thing
about somebody and they go fucking asshole, batshit nuts with it, beat people
over the head with it. Andthat's just this is all that person was,
Like that fucking chick. What they'restill identifying they're still transporting uh Kobe
to the hospital. And the chickwho hopped on Twitter right away to remind

(01:06:48):
me, like we we didn't forget. But again, like the guy died
with his daughter, he had whatyou had, other children, you had
a wife, Like come on,like, well, I mean there was
our sho got in there and he'slike, oh, everybody's upset about Kobe.
Remember he raped some bitch, AndI was like, okay. The
fact that like Ari Shafir, whois in the ultimate like one of the
ultimate shit starters in the in theJoe Rogan Austin Comedy Circle scene, whatever

(01:07:14):
the fuck whatever crew he's associated with, he like the dude is drug people
against their will on podcasts, peoplewith like Burt Kreischer. He fucking does
Burt Kreischer up with a bunch ofmolly without Burt Kreischer knowing it. And
Bert Kreischer has like heart issues andblood pressure issues could have easily sent that
man into a stroke or a heartattack. So that's the dude who was
out there like yeah that it's notforget Kobe Bryant was a rapist and everybody's

(01:07:38):
like, ah, so edgy.It's like dude, he's kind of a
guy you really wouldn't want a roundyou because I'm gonna tell you what,
I'm forty six and if you slipme some shit against my fucking will,
you better hope I have a realgood time on it, because if it
turns bad at all, I'm fuckingyou up. Period. It's on site.
Mother Fuck those those Ari seemed toseems to have a lower profile then

(01:08:00):
he used to about ten years ago, just saying well whatever, but would
be one of them dudes who justwe talked about people who are afraid of
Oh everything's going good. Fuck this. I feel Ari might be in that
club because he seemed like ten yearsago he was like heading four heights and
something happened and he is now indepth. The thing is is that Ari

(01:08:26):
played the game behind the scenes.Ari Shafir played the game behind the scenes
from what I've understood and what I'velistened to over the years. Whereas you
had people like patrisea O'Neil who nevermet a bridge he didn't love putting the
match too. I mean one ofthe most one of the most infamous stories
about Patrissea O'Neil being Patrise O'Neill,when and wherever you caught him, how

(01:08:46):
when and wherever he was, thatman was himself, whether you liked him
or agreed with him or thought hewas a dumbass for doing it. He
couldn't tap dance, and him andNick Depolo had a show they were pitching
it Comedy Sense, and he haddone a show with the Oh I can't
believe I'm drawing a blank here ToughCrowd with Colin Quinn. So he'd already

(01:09:09):
had a relationship with some of theexecutives, and as you can guess,
because it's Patrise O'Neil, he didn'treally have that great of a relationship with
some of the executives. So theygo in there and apparently Nick Depolo is
like, he gets in the middleof his meeting and one of the most
verbose motherfuckers in the comedy scene atthe time, all of a sudden gets
tongue tied. So PATRISEA. O'Neilsteps up, and the story goes he

(01:09:30):
gets he was like, I gotthis, and he starts dressing the table
of executives and he gets maybe fiveten seconds total into it, and he
stops and he goes, I can'tdo this. You hate me, you
hate me, you hate me,you don't know me, and you hate
me. And I know all y'allhate me because y'all, y'all fucking did
your best to get me thrown offa tough crowd and I ain't forgot the

(01:09:51):
shit, and fuck all y'all,I'm out. And that's just how he
did it. That's just how hedid it. That's how Patrisa O'Neil fucking
he was like, I'm not gonnatap dance. I'm not gonna be fake.
Ari Shafir does not do that.That's so he might have fucking ten
years ago thing when he was onthe trajectory for whatever. He was probably
playing the game, but he hadn'tsaid anything too crazy. See, that's

(01:10:14):
that was one of the reasons PatriseO'Neil was like that, because he said,
I don't want to owe anybody.He was in a Spike Lee movie.
Spike Lee put him in twenty fifthHour, right. Spike Lee saw
his stand up comedy just like randomlyflipping channels and was like, contact his
people. I want him in mynext movie. So they went through his
they went through patrisea O'Neil's people,the proper channels called them his agent's.

(01:10:36):
I think he called them him himthink maybe he's more colloquial term that we
can't say. Oh well yeah,well going by what Patrisa O'Neil said,
yes, it was a work colloquialterm. But but yeah, he and
Patrisiameil made a point. He's like, he went through the proper channels,
he went through my agent, blahblah blah. You know all the people
my support team that I have aroundme, that Spike also has his own

(01:10:59):
support team. Well after he wasin the movie, he goes, next
thing I know, I'm sitting courtsideat Madison Square Garden with Spike Lee.
Like if I if I sit backand put my feet out too far,
I'm a trip of player. That'show close to the court in the action
I was. He goes, andit happened twice. I went twice with
them because and then like a couplemonths later, I'm just chilling at home.

(01:11:20):
My phone rings. It's Spike Leeand he's like, hey, man,
I want you to do this movie. Patrise O'Neil goes, Yeah,
I'd love to do this movie,but we got to go through the you
know, we got to go throughmy channels like you did when you hired
me for twenty fifth hour. SpikeLee's like, no, I ain't with
all that, and Patrisea O'Neil didn'thol him out. But I get a
feeling that Spike Lee was like,I ain't with all because Patrisse O'Neil did

(01:11:43):
say all his people were old Jews. You can make assumptions on your own
from there about Spike Lee and whathe felt about patrisal on neil's people.
But patrisceal emil stuck by his peopleand said, if I betray them and
go with Spike, then I'm goingto Oh, Spike, these are people
I at least I know I cantrust. I know I give my percentage
to him, plus a little typicalbonus on top, and we're done with

(01:12:04):
business. I don't know what Spike'sgonna want to me to owe him down
the line. And on top ofthat, he's circumventing how the system is
set up. By the way this, he would use the same fucking methods
that Patrise O'Neil was telling Spike Leeto use. Look, you got to
go through my people if Patrise wentto Spike Lee, they would tell him
go through Spike's people. That's howmuch of a man of integrity he was

(01:12:26):
to the people around him. Soyou can call him a fool for fucking
shooting himself and burning bridges, buthe also stood by the people who stood
by him. Bill Burr loved him, like Bill Burr still talks about him
all the time, and I guessthey're on like over a decade. They
do like a benefit every year forhim. Oh. Absolutely, if all
the money do with family, Yeah, well I'm not going to go into
it because I could do a wholepodcast on the bullshit that's happened since Patrise

(01:12:49):
O'Neil's died between certain people that werein his life and a woman who was
in his life. We'll just we'lljust say that, and I'm just like,
you know, but oh man,I mean that's the thing, like,
Hi, if you don't like fuckingpeople talking like about their own lives
and podcasting, tune out now.But that's like, I think that's why
you and I get along because nomatter what I think you understand it,

(01:13:12):
I'm not disc I'm not. Igotta be really careful, I say that
our personalities are alike enough to wherewe can agree on stuff, but they're
separate enough to where we can wecan butt heads about it. But they're
also separate in ways that we complimenteach other. Does that make sense?
Yeah, okay, I believe that'scalled relationship. Whether it's it's two people

(01:13:36):
in a relationship, take the gendersoff of them, that's two people in
a relationship. Trust. Well,it's just it. My one buddy I
joke to with his wife all thetime, like we're wife number one and
wife number two and switches depending onthe day. Well, I mean I

(01:13:58):
did. I did kind of tellmy ex wife when I met her and
I brought her on my friends.I'm like, now here's the deal.
They were here before you, they'llbe here after you. Don't get don't
get cocky about it. Yeah,okay, I do want to spend time
with you. I do. Imean this before we were telling each other
we loved each other and shit.But I was like, but don't think
you're going to come in and belike, yo, your friends got to
go, because I'll be like no, especially some of the ones I had

(01:14:20):
back then that I've lost contact with. Those were motherfuckers who ay, fucking
statute of limitations are up. Yeah, they did take baseball bats to motherfuckers
on my behalf sometimes and I repayin kind, So there you go.
So yeah, but I don't know. My point is is that just because
it's easy to paint people as thisone thing, and people that don't like

(01:14:42):
Patrisia Neil, one of the easiestthings to do is well, he was
such an asshole to people. Butif you really look at what he was
doing, he was just telling peoplethe truth to their faced. Go back
and if you doubt me, goback and listen to time his episodes on
Opie and Anthony that are all overYouTube. Listen to the ones with other
comedians on it, or better yet, listen to the ones where they bring
chicks into the studio and listen toeverybody fawn over the chicks except for Patrise.

(01:15:06):
And by the end of the fuckingshow, more often than not,
the chicks were more into Patrise thanall the guys that fawned over him for
the entire time. And go backand listen, and all he's doing is
telling the truth, and that's enoughto make people hate you. I just
know. Bill Burr said, youdid not just want to get caught fucking
up around Patrese. It was over. You didn't want to be wearing a

(01:15:28):
weird you didn't you want to makesure you had on just a plane outfit.
YEP. One of the best footdownsI ever heard was he was on
Opian Anthony and this was the lastI think it was the last time he
was on and Colin Quinn was on, and him and Colin Quinn had kind
of a mentor mentor or eve relationship, but weirdly there was no one like

(01:15:51):
neither one was above the other.Colin was just further along in his career
and he would try to like mentorPatrise in his career, but Patrise was
Patrisa was Patrisse. So he's gonnahe'll listen to you, but ultimately he's
gonna do what the fuck he wantsto do. So, but Colin Quinn
and him were going back and forthand he's like, you know what,
I've been sitting here and I knowit's radio, but this motherfucker with his

(01:16:15):
messy ass nineties independent film hair,going bald, trying to fucking make do
the messy hair like you ain't goingbald, and just ripped into Colin Quinn
to the point where I was like, God damn dude, Like I think
Colin Quinn had probably swung on somebodyif it wasn't Patrise, like he fucking
savage him. And it was justlike, God damn dude. Because then

(01:16:35):
I saw the picture of Colin Quinn, I was like, he does have
nineteen nineties independent I'm going bald haircut. Holy fuck, that's exactly what that
looks like before fucking Nick Cage gotthe plugs in the nineties. That's what
he looked like. Well, youknow that you have TV show at the

(01:16:55):
time. They're trying to make himlook like you know, TV with Colin
Quinn, you know, and doso much. I got, hey,
hey, hey, I don't thinkColin Quinn's a bad looking guy. Hey,
lay off the Irish man, comeon now, can't help we look
like potatoes? Yeah, he does, you mention it kinda. But last

(01:17:15):
time I saw him he was playingAmy Schumer's dad in train Wreck, and
that was like a decade ago.Uh. He had some stand up special
I saw on the streaming service probablyin the last five years, and much
like a lot of Colin Quinn ColinQuinn's best thing was tough crowd. Colin
Quinn was the best dude to justsit and have four comedians in him just
rip into each other for thirty minutesevery night. That's when Colin Quinn is

(01:17:40):
the funniest. When he's in amovie. When he's in a TV show,
it's very, very, very fewhits and a lot of misses.
That's just my weekend update for aminute, right, Like, didn't he
Yeah, he replaced nor McDonald.Yeah, and it was one They fucked
him. No one else wanted togo to to go after Norman. They
basically told him, you like workingthis at live, you like this,
paycheck or take your spot. Sohe was following one of the best people

(01:18:03):
to ever do that fucking bit.But from what I heard on SNL,
that's a good gig because they it'ssteady work and b it's like the only
thing you work on. Well,it's steady gig and it's But I mean,
the problem is is that, likewith Norm McDonald, that wasn't a
fucking amicable split. Well yeah,no, no, we all know the
story. Yeah, the one guythought he wasn't funny, and I also

(01:18:25):
told him to stop making OJ jokesbecause he was buddies with OJ. Yeah.
And then the next what Norm McDonalddoes and did more OJ jokes.
Yeah, it wasn't like that.The next weekend Updated was like all OJ
jokes pretty much. It was.It was damn close. Yeah, some
of the things they're just norm jokesand they just they can't even do them
because you got to set them up. Hey, aren't you that murderer?

(01:18:47):
Stuff like that? Like yeah,but no, man, Like there's like,
I get it. I understand thatpeople like Patresea O'Neill and quite possibly
myself, And I'm not putting myselfin the league with Patrice besides me just
in the level of disagreeability and don'twant to fucking bend the knee and live

(01:19:12):
on my knees for anybody. Andas much as we can be people that
shoot ourselves in the first every oncein a while it does help to have
a friend like me in your fuckingcorner. I'm just gonna say. But
but I also understand that it's rough, man, it's rough. It's rough
for people to be around people likethat. And I get that because people
don't want to hear the truth,man, and Patrice said that and in

(01:19:33):
the documentary, and it's on YouTube. Go look it up. Uh shit,
hold on, I'll even tell youthe name of it real quick.
I think it's called Brutally Brutally Honestpatrisea O'Neil documentary. Look it up on
YouTube. It's about an hour long. Starts off, he's in an interview
and he's like, yeah, liarsdon't like me. People that live lies
that they don't like because in ourworld we're told that to be honest is

(01:19:57):
something good. But to be honestis to be out an outcast. You're
you're hated, people hate you,people say you're being brutally honest. I
don't understand that liars are brutal.How can the truth be brutal? And
it's like, if that's your philosophy, you're gonna rub people the wrong way,
especially if you stick to your guns. No one looks to be made
to think they're wrong or having torealize they're wrong. A man, A

(01:20:24):
bunch of bullshit personally in my lifehas happened, and I have I've had
to reconcile some things that like,hey, I did some shit and I
said some things that I will probablynever get a chance to properly apologize a
tone or make restitution for it.And it sucks, It really sucks.
But gotta do what you gotta do, and you gotta move on. And

(01:20:46):
I mean ultimately as much as Iyou know, like I said, the
ship that sucks, I stayed trueto I stayed true to myself and told
the truth. But I did itfor the wrong reasons. And that's what
sucks. That's what you listen toyour uncle Richard children, that's where you
don't want to find yourself. Sosometimes just keep your mouth shut and walk
away. And you're getting into oneof my mantras in the last couple of

(01:21:12):
years. You can't change your past, which you can change your future because
it ain't written yet. No,absolutely, And that's the difference between like
the last four or five months ofmy well, four months of my life.
Really, if I went going throughit now, going through it ten
years ago, I'd have handled itcompletely different. Ten years ago, this
would have turned into something that likegot way fucking out of control and blown
out of proportion and nonsensical, andthen I just start pouring booze on it,

(01:21:36):
and that had just compounded the situationand made it even that much more
worse. Like I said, Ijust I wouldn't have learned anything from it.
And now I'm like, yeah,I don't ever want to go through
this again if I can at allhelp it. So what did I do
to fuck up? And let metry to make that better? So I
don't do this the next time,even if I can't do anything about what

(01:21:59):
has happened already. Don't want tokeep going through this, And to be
honest with you, I don't wantto. I don't want to put people
through this. You know, youwhen you when you have a falling out
with someone, And I mean we'vehad it on this show. How many
fucking ten years? How many cohosts if we have? Doesn't take a
brainiact to figure out that one ofthe former co hosts of this show still
hosts the show with Chris but notme? Now do you and I host?

(01:22:19):
I'll co host the show with Chrisbut not him? Do I need
to draw you a picture? Canyou kind of put two or two together
and come to your own fucking conclusions? Okay, let him do that.
It'll be more downloads. But Imean, like, this is this is
the way shit is and if you'regoing to stay true to yourself and you're

(01:22:40):
going to try to live by somesort of code, uh, set of
values, principles, religious ethics,whatever you want to call it, you're
gonna have to accept that certain peopleare not gonna fucking be cool with it.
And it sucks. And here's thething for every person who goes,
yeah, that guy, that guy'san asshole because he just fun. He

(01:23:00):
just fucking First of all, tellingthe truth is not talking shit. Talking
shit is making shit up. Solet's get that out the way. That
guy just talks shit. You.No, that guy just tells the truth,
and you don't like it. Yeah, it's not the same, fie.
Yeah, it's not. Rich andI come from talking shit means you
are making shit. Oh no wait. In twenty twenty four, it's called
constructing a narrative. We called itlying we're talking shit. Yeah, so

(01:23:26):
I mean it's just no, honey, I wasn't lying to you. I
was constructing a narrative. That's narrative, yes, yes, yes, well
no, I dude, it's justGod, I don't know. I I
recently watched like in recently, Imean like the last four or five days.
It was an interview with Bill Burrabout Patrisea O'Neil. And the funny

(01:23:49):
thing was, is that for allthe shit, because there were times on
Opening Anthony Show that patriso Neil andBill Burr would get on the phone with
each other and just real have itout, like fuck you, motherfucker,
fuck you, like just to eachother. And it wasn't for what.
They weren't busting balls, they weren'tjoking. That's how much they got under

(01:24:11):
each other's skin. And let's behonest, I think it was more Patrice
got under Bill's skin. I'm justgonna be honest with that. But for
all that, the man still wasI mean, this was an interview that
was recorded a couple of weeks beforeI watched it. The man was still
damn near in tears talking about PatrisaNeil and just how for all the shit
that went down, you always knewwhere you stood and basically like how that's

(01:24:33):
so fucking rare, And I mean, like, here's the bitch of it.
I know for a fact, probablyno one told that man by that
man, I mean Patrisa Neil,none of these guys told him that when
he was still drawing breath on thisplanet because they'd have been afraid. He'd
have fucking never let them live itdown. Yeah that's right, you told
me. I know it. Yeah, I know, I know. But

(01:24:53):
that's the fucked up part. Likeit takes someone dying, you have to
lose someone sometimes realize like, ohshit, I said this before. Someone
who cares about you and will tellyou the truth like they hate you is
invaluable to me as long as youcan understand what's coming out their mouth ain't
personal. They just want you tobe better. That's it. And that's

(01:25:15):
a hard lesson to learn. Istill have to fucking relearn it from time
to time. I might. Imight have a co host on this show
right now who watches me relearn thatlesson a few times every couple of months.
It's possible. It's stuff. It'sit's a never ending battle because yeah,
you have to you have to comefrom a spot of I'd actually just

(01:25:36):
read an article about this, likeyou know, if you if I take
your criticism I hard. Here's somethings to do. One of the things
they say is like get in thespot of like how is this trying to
help me? Like it wash awayeverything and all the feelings you have of
you, like I'm being attacked andthis and that, How is this trying
to help me? And that's andthat's and I think what you're getting at
is that's the spot you got tocome from with some with people like that

(01:25:58):
like that they are trying to helpyou, like the fact like this is
real simple. Am I talking toyou voluntarily? Do I seek you out
outside of work or prior commitments thatrequire for us to have contact? Then
you need okay, if you knowme, you need to stop wondering if
I fucking like you, if I'mdoing any of that, I obviously like

(01:26:23):
you, because, believe me,there's a lot of people who used to
be in my life who go wenever hear from rich anymore. But you
know who hears from rich? Peoplewho I care about, not people who
are habitual line steppers and boundary crossersand pieces of shit. I mean,
I maybe this is just me,but like I kind of want the person

(01:26:43):
to tell me the fucking truth,even if it's gonna hurt my feelings and
I'm gonna fucking be walking around witha mad on for him for a little
bit. But when I calm downand when I come to my senses.
Nine times out of ten, I'mat least gonna understand where they we're coming
from. And I'm he's going totry to give it a look from their
perspective. And I'm starting to realizethat is very rare. Usually people just

(01:27:04):
get upset. People just get upsetand stay upset, apparently, and then
that's it. And I'm just like, Okay, I can't worry about that
anymore. All I can worry aboutis I know, doing things a certain
way has ended me up in certainsituations in my life. And I've done
the same things in different at differenttimes in my life and ended up in
the same situation. So logic woulddictate it stands to reason, whatever idiom

(01:27:30):
and you want to put in there, I need to change up the playbook,
don't I Yeah, because I'm notgetting the results I want. I
was in a couple of years ago, like all right, so we're here.
How did we get here? Let'sgo to the tape, right,
Like, Okay, you know what, dude. For the first time in
my life, except for one thingthat I'm not sure that happened at the

(01:27:53):
end, I really am fucking kindof proud of myself about I handled the
whole situation because I didn't. Iswear to God, dude. I was
trying to be an adult. Iwas trying to make shit work. I
was trying to have one on oneconversations with people without fucking dragging other people
into it, without starting fucking WorldWar three. And I just couldn't do
it. The environment that I wasin would not allow me to do it.

(01:28:16):
And it you remove yourself from theenvironment, and you exactly exactly,
and it's like it's just because tooyou get into it. You kind of
get into the mindset too of well, let's see here, who's really sesame
street. One of these things isnot like the other, Like if it

(01:28:39):
guess, I guess what I'm gettingat. It's the end of the show.
Smoked a lot of weed. Youget to a point where you're like,
Okay, there's way too many variableshere. The easiest thing for me
to do that would change all ofthese quickly is for me to not be
in this equation rather than trying toget ten people to change their ways.
Fuck it, I'm out of here, pulling the ripcord. Well, like

(01:29:00):
I said, I besides one thingthat I might have done in the way
out the door. I've pretty muchmade my piece with what went down.
But I mean, it doesn't makeit any easier because it's like a part
of you is a part of me. I guess it is always going to
be like did I pull the ripcordtoo soon? And I don't. I
just have to accept that. I'malways going to second guess myself. I'm

(01:29:23):
always going to say, what if? What if? What could have?
You are underestimating the power of fuckthem? Like I got I got you,
I got you. It's just likethat's like, that's maybe maybe that's
the one thing that that's dude,that's my line in the sand. You
do me dirty. It is nowofficially okay. That's how you want it,

(01:29:46):
that's how you that's how you're goingto get it. I know,
but you know me one of thosequote scene that we can't quote on a
microphone from the forty year old virgin. I mean, I dude, you're
right, I get what you're saying, but it doesn't change the fact that

(01:30:10):
and this is part of this ispart of growing up. This is part
of maturity, and this is partof understanding that sometimes as hard as it
is, a person that you liketo be around, that you like,
maybe even love to be around,you have a great time around. They
might bring out some good things aboutyou, some of even the best things
about you, but they also theycan also bring out some of the worst

(01:30:31):
things about you. And you gottaknow when the cut ties, man,
And that's just something that I'm nevergoing to be good about. As much
as people are like, wow,you can cut people off without a second
thought. You're partially right, andI'll leave it to you to figure out
what you're right about. I willsay that there is it does take a

(01:30:54):
little longer for some people to getto fuck them. Stage like it that
we're almost there with the ex wife, like right, Sometimes it's not instantly
fuck them, but yeah, it'sit's the process and everyone has their own
I guess well. I mean,the thing is is that if I put
in almost thirty years with people,I fall into the sunk cost fallacy because

(01:31:15):
listen to how I just fucking phrasedit. If I've put in almost thirty
years, that's like I'm working afucking job towards a gold watching a pension
y and you're not like me.There's people I caught off where it was
dude, trust me, people likea decade or so where it's like this
is just this is not working forme anymore, Like as I need to
grow as a person and you donot want to grow as a person.

(01:31:40):
Okay, And that's someone that Ihave history with that more of my life
that I remember I remember them inthan them not being it. So if
I see a new version, anew younger version of that bullshit coming and
I go, okay, hold on, I've done chew this dirt and I
don't like the way this dirt taste. So if you're going to continue down

(01:32:00):
this road, you'd only want togo to be dining on this dirt because
I'm not doing it. And Iget told basically fuck off. Well,
I don't feel guilty about walking awayat that point, because here's the deal,
Like you just said, if I'mnot going to do it with someone
who I got thirty years with,why am I going to do it for
someone who I've known less than ten, less than five, less than a
year. I mean, I mean, fuck it, I'll put I'll put

(01:32:23):
some business out here. Todd quiton this fucking show on the air,
Well, not this show but theold one on the air. Now.
I still talk to Todd, andwe had after that, and we had
Todd on on Sport you a fewtimes. But Todd, hey, and
Todd, if you're listening, sorry, Bud, you'd have had this from
my lips to your ears. Butevery time I tried to talk to you,
the last couple times we talked,you were more interested in, oh,

(01:32:45):
have you been drinking. I canhear something in your voice and it
was like, dude, I'm notgoing to do this with you, right.
But I tried to tell Todd Manlike, Dude, you get these
fucking you get these these cycles,and you shit all over everyone around you,
and then you come fucking back andyou're like, hey, yes,
worry about that. And it's likeI went through two of the cycles,
and when I saw the third oneramping up, I pulled the ripcord and
I said, fuck it, I'mdone. Dude. I use one of

(01:33:08):
his own fucking terms that he threwin my face back at him. You
don't have enough friendship equity with meto pull this shit. Nice. I
love doing that period period. Ilove quoting people back to themselves. Now
here's the deal. I don't haveany ill will towards Todd. I just
don't have the patience to deal withthe shit anymore. And I've learned that

(01:33:30):
I'm not major League Baseball. You'renot owed three strikes at per bat.
For me, I'm going to defaultback to what I said earlier. Second
chances are rare. People need tolearn take better advantage of him With me,
he got two chances. I can'tgive him a third. Excuse me,
I won't give him a third.Nothing personal, But dude, you
don't think my drinking ran people off. You don't think my personality has ran

(01:33:54):
people off. People I've cared about, people I've loved. Even that's a
different conversation. But no, no, absolutely you don't. It's well,
no, I'm talking friends, I'mnot talking romantic partner. No, no,
absolutely, it's a defense. Imean you were like in an defense
you were yes, yes, theshort answer, yes, I do.

(01:34:14):
I do think I do agree withyou, and I mean like and like
I said, Todd is one ofthe few people that and you know,
hey, look this is my ismy hang up? I got this.
You know what I'm saying. Iunderstand it. Uh, post my divorce,
I wasn't very trusting, and Ididn't want to meet a whole lot
of new people, and if Idid, I was very aloof and I

(01:34:35):
was my I was my old worknickname triple a aloof a cerbic asshole because
I don't want it. I was. I was like the grizzled fucking sergeant
major in Vietnam telling the fucking newguy, PFC, I don't want to
know your name, U till you'vebeen in country for at least six months.
Prove to me that you ain't gonnacatch a bullet in the first six
months, and then I'll bother tocare about you. But he's one of

(01:34:57):
the few people that, for whateverreason, I felt that we had a
connection. And this has happened afew times since then, and it's like,
no, not really, it's that'son my end. There's a connection
I feel, but not there end, obviously. But then it's funny because
when I'm like, oh, okay, so if this is gonna be one
of those type situations, two onespimping deuces, peace out, see you

(01:35:17):
later. You're an asshole. Okay, you just proved to me. I
made the right decision, by theway, So thank you. I am
not one of those people that needseverybody to like me. I'm fully aware
that there are some people walking aroundon this globe that think I am a
dick, and I'm okay with it. People that I don't want to think
I am a dick are still inmy life. And I mean, dude,

(01:35:38):
when you give people fucking chances andthey keep shitting on them, what
are you supposed to do? Man? What are you supposed to do?
I mean, like I've said itbefore, all right, If I was
drinking like I drank when we first, when I first sat in with you
guys, and you have thrown meout of your house fucking within a month,
that's just all there is too.And you would I don't think you'd
have been like, hey, man, I hate you, fuck you cocksucker.
I hope you die. You've justbeen like yo, man, I'm

(01:36:00):
sorry, but dude, you're drinkinglike you want to die. And I
can't sit here and let that happenon my watch. Man. You gotta
go. Sorry. You know whatI've done it to people. I've absolutely
done it to people. I've hadfriends sticking needles in their arms, sucking
on glass dicks and it's just like, dude, I can't sit here and
watch you go through this. Man, I'm not going to do it.
And they look at me and go, why don't you go have another drink?
You're fucking alcoholic, And I'll belike, you're absolutely right. So

(01:36:21):
I guess we can go both bealone to be hypocrites on our own.
Huh, good way to do it. I mean, it's made the point.
It's just, you know, it'sone of those things like you reach
a certain point in life and youthink you've got a few things figured out,
and then you just get like thebucket of cold ice water to the
face that's like, Nope, youdon't have any of us figured out.

(01:36:42):
I came. I think in thelast few years I have just come to
accept you you never have a figuredout, Like you're just gonna until you
go into pine box, You're stillgoing to be figuring it out. I
also think that to get to thatrealization, you have to understand that the
one common thread and all your failedrelationship is you. Yes, the person

(01:37:04):
quoting MJ. The man in themirror, absolutely, the person born male
in the mirror. Sorry, butI mean, like, and once you
one understand that, two accept that, and three start acting accordingly. Usually,
in my experience, you find yourselfin a lot less bullshit situation,

(01:37:26):
surrounded by people who don't really givea fuck about you, and all of
your relationships failed and une failed asyou. I mean, I can tell
you this man, yes, thelast four months or any fucking indication my
next relationship. Like, I'm like, I'm going to bed. No,
I'm going to call my ex wifeand be like, I need to apologize

(01:37:48):
because I think, like I havean idea of how you're supposed to be
in relationships now. I just haveto find someone healthy enough that'll let me
be that way with them. ButI mean, like, like, seriously,
I don't feel bad about any ofmy exes, but my ex wife,
Like I know I ran her off, but like I get the feeling
that she's gonna see me in arelationship my next relationship. She's gonna be
like, where the fuck was thiswhen we were married, and I'd be

(01:38:09):
like, I am so sorry,I don't I don't know, I don't
know. Apparently it was. Itwas it was getting pickled under a whole
lot of booze. At the side. There is a joke on Parks and
Reck where Rashida Jones' ex boyfriend isgetting married and she's at a bar and
she's drunk and she's like, youknow, when he was me with me,

(01:38:30):
he was a helpless baby, andnow he's an adult with a job
and this and that in the punchlineis and now some other woman gets to
reap the benefits of my hard work. That's fucking bullshit. Okay, Now,
ladies, that's a valid way tofeel about a man, and you're
absolutely correct to feel that way,because here's the male version of it.

(01:38:51):
Bitch. When I met you,you gave toothier head than fucking Taylor Swift.
I literally had to grab you byyour ears and fuck train you how
to suck a cock. And nowyou're good at it, and you left
me for another motherfucker. Fuck you, bitch. I hope he shoots a
low down your throat and kills youafter he shoots one of both your eyes
and blinds you. Fuck You're suckingSuperman's dick and it comes out the back

(01:39:13):
of your head. Yep. Fuckyou, like there's you got to be
kidding, because I'm gonna tell youwhat. Once you've trained a chick how
to suck a dick. Every dudewho fucks her after you needs to come
and bow down by you a steakdinner. Absolutely fuck Wiener cousins. That

(01:39:33):
is I you know what that is. That's curing. That's the equivalent of
the sexual equivalent for men of curingcancer. We've I put another angel on
this planet for other men to enjoy, and I trained that angel. You're
welcome. You're welcome. Seriously,I gonna I am a booster of every

(01:39:54):
statement you just said. See howBorn podcasts over dis agree, Christ now
we got Now we can end giantfour minute dick joke. Jess wasn't even
here for it. Oh I know, dude. This was probably the most

(01:40:16):
touchy feely segment we've had in along time, this last one. And
Jess wasn't here for it. AndI feel like she would have been as
as her generation says, she'd havereally been here for it if she was
here for it, right, becausethis is this is that woo crunchy ship
that if if y'all haven't picked upJess gonna kill me for talking like this
when she's on the show. Ify'all have picked up, She's she's a

(01:40:38):
sensitive soul. So I ain't goall that far. I'm just saying she's
a sensitive she's that sensitive. She'sa Southern lady. Southern chicks are all
sweet to your face and fucking badass, fucking bitches behind your back. I
mean that. I don't know.That's just like badass bitches to your face.
That's the ones in my family,like for the moment most part.

(01:41:00):
Yeah, Like, my great grandmotherwas down in Clintwood, Virginia fighting in
the streets in her eighties because someonejumped her great granddaughter and she was not
having it. And I'm like,thrown down at eighty Hell yeah that woman?
Hold on did she winke? Sureshe was? Oh yeah, my
great grandmother. Oh okay, Wellthey're both dead, so fuck it.
I can tell this story and noneof my family listening to this podcast.

(01:41:21):
So here if you're stuck around,here's the hidden track. If you're from
the nineties, you remember those onCDs. Yeah, okay, So nineteen
eighty six, summer nineteen eighty six, my great grandmother, who I just
called grandma because she didn't want mecalling her great grandmother. Because my great
grandmother lived to be almost one hundredand was working into her late eighties as

(01:41:42):
a waitress, like with women whowere teenagers, and she was running circles
around them. That's not an exaggerationwhatsoever. But anyways, my grandmother was
in her late sixties, My greatgrandmother was in her late sixties at this
point, and my mom was beingmy mom and was she just I was
the worst thing to be ever beborn, and on the face of this
planet, I was evil incarnate thatday to her. And so my grand

(01:42:05):
my grandmother used to come over andonce once like a week during the summer,
on summer vacation, she'd take meout to eat at West at Wonderland
Mall where they had a food court. Right next to the food court,
they had one of the best arcadesI ever remember as a kid, and
we'd spend it, you know,the afternoon together, and she'd take me
home. Whatever she showed up,my mom said, nope, he's not
going anywhere. I don't remember theexact conversation because I was two rooms away

(01:42:29):
and there was a couple closed doorsbetween me and them. But then I
heard voices get raised, and Iopened the door and I peek out,
and I look out and my motherI looked out just in town to see
my mother reach back, cock backwith her fist and take a swing at
my great grandmother, and my greatgrandmother leaned back, and my mom missed,
and then my great grandmother commenced tobeat the dog shit out of my

(01:42:49):
mother, lean back her granddog.Because remember this is my great grandmother,
So that is my mother swung onher grandmother and my grandmother eat the freckles
off that fucking ginger bitch, beatthe breaks off that bitch, like I
mean, like, put that bitchyou will never again, even in a

(01:43:10):
fucking dream, raise your hand againstme type of ass. I think it's
something with when they birth you,like it's a mental thing, Like it's
it's gotta be because I've seen likeold dudes like whip their younger son's ass
and he's been bigger than them.Like I think it's a mental thing with

(01:43:30):
parents and kids. It's gotta beright, especially with that that kind of
age difference. I dude, mygreat grandmother was just built different. She
was tough, married, knocked up, had a kid before she was sixteen.
The guy she married, she hadthree kids total with him. Guy
she married was a piece of fuckingshit. He used to beat the dog
shit out of her, and aftershe had the third kid, she said,

(01:43:54):
you ain't ever laying your hand onme or my children again, and
he did. And now this thisis a woman who died in the early
two thousands in her and she wasin her nineties, so she saw the
depression, So yeah, she saw. So she was so she was not
even twenty, and she had threekids by a man who was like ten

(01:44:14):
years older in her and like hemarried her when she was fifteen. She
was knocked up when she was fifteen, which wasn't I know, Oh how
horrible groomer, ooh and all thatshit. But back then that wasn't all
that fucking unheard of. In fact, that was pretty fucking common. But
like he, after she had thethird kid, she was like, you
will never put your hands on meagain, and he was like, bitch,
you're my property, and he puthis hands on her, and she

(01:44:35):
beat him so bad he crawled upunder the bed. When the cop showed
up, she had a knife tryingto get under the bed to kill him,
and they had to pull her outfrom under the bed, wrestle the
knife away from her, and thenseparate her from him because she would kept
going. She just kept going ather damn needless to say, the minute,
I think the minute my uncle Tommywas eighteen or or was, you

(01:45:00):
know whatever age that they could dowhatever and left the house. Back then
that she filed for divorce. Andthis was back when you didn't get divorced,
but she did, so I meanlike, yeah, so this wasn't
And then now that's my great grandmother. Now, my grandmother forty years at
State Farm. First woman to bea fucking adjuster in the company, first
woman to ever be an adjuster inthe company and go work the parts of

(01:45:24):
Detroit that men refused to work.And this was back in the fifties and
sixties. So that's why people arelike, you're a misogynist, you're this
and that. No, I justknow what real feminism looks like, and
real feminism doesn't walking around talking aboutI pay my own bills, I don't
need no man. You know what, you know who you know who else
pays their own bills and don't needanybody else. Men, we just don't
call ourselves strong and independent for doingit. So it's just expected of us.

(01:45:45):
Yes, and that's how my mygrandmother. God blessed this woman before
her, the dementia really took over. I remember sitting in the late nineties
having a conversation with her, andshe's like, and she was only a
couple of years retired at that point, so she'd she wasn't like far removed
from the workforce and younger women,and she was like, I'm so sick

(01:46:08):
of all the shit I went through, all the bullshit I put up with,
the ass slaps, the hey bitch, get me coffee and a blow
job and bring the extra slobber,and all this shit that I went through
is for these women to come upbehind me and call themselves feminists, and
all they do is emulate the worsttraits of men. That's not feminism,

(01:46:29):
that's not equality. That's lowering yourselfto the worst example of a man you
can find. And I'm sitting theregoing wow, okay, And nowadays that's
a hate that's a hate filled fuckingopinion. Oh, she'd be torn down,
canceled go besides being ninety four.Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
I mean Jake from Saint far mercallher into his office and let her go.

(01:46:50):
Yeah, dude, there you go. There's a woman who saw real
oppression on the job, real youcan't do this job. And by the
way, nice ass, sweetheart,why don't you shake it on through the
fucking office for me a little bitmore during lunchtime? Like shit, that
women these days would fucking literally justkill themselves if it happened they could.

(01:47:12):
Oh my god, I'm so traumatizic, like the caause. Remember, these
are women who are like, it'ssexist because it's sixty eight degrees in the
office, because the men say theyget too hot, that's sexy, that's
a pressure. Really, you haveno idea what you're talking about, but
sure, go ahead. That's that'sso. There you go, folks,
there's a peak into my fucking intomy psyche. And now you understand why
I'm like, yeah, I'm allabout equality, but this ain't equality,

(01:47:35):
because equality is your your elbow toelbow, butt cheek to butt cheek in
the trenches, bleeding with and nextto me? Are you bleeding with me?
And I'm bleeding with you? Andwe're doing the same fucking we're fighting
the same fight. That's equality.You most women, you don't want that.
And until you fucking admit that andact accordingly, your lives are gonna

(01:47:58):
be shit. And you know what, ain't nobody else's problem but your sweetheart.
And just remember the wall. It'scoming and it's undefeated. In a
big, long veiny purple dick lookingin the show in a dick joke.
Go to at Jennings I always fuckingforget at gen Exhausted pod on social media
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(01:48:20):
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(01:48:42):
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But them my teens to get toheave and swing here here wh you don't

(01:49:04):
hurry. I'm down in the future. But then I fol my couch in
to the way. I have noreason to be camfree. No, no,
until I took a trip to theyoung side of town on you know
I heard that Boogey Belthom. Hey, I'm no chaster, took him down,

(01:49:25):
down down down. This not nowfrom me after this of these bad
times I'm going through. Just dance, got care. I'm not here to
night Big Ben Fantasy the light man, I'm listening guys heaven soon. So

(01:49:48):
Mom, I'm not to hang outon my hang ups because on the body
I feel so healthy and help.Hey, he he's the here's that can
be action that you get me.I know I'm never never fell out this
before. I don't know what todo about now. It's nothing new to
stuff between yelling. How war Imean you got trouble, I mean you

(01:50:10):
got spool a bad nothing now fromhere, dude, about this, I's
nine times going through, just ascat got your demail. My hairs to
next week? Man can roun No, No, I'm a nest ten things
up me boy say day, butI'm gone. I'll be it anyway.

(01:50:34):
Yeah, got you a femail myhairs tonight thing? Man, You know
I can't hear that my ears spookisfor me? Oh now the wind camp

(01:50:58):
north against her. It's investing mewhen you sleep he she says you not
that you can come much faster.Another baby's talking as she hid your head.
That's my chilling bad on me.I'm gonna use my fellow to a
say here. You know I'm gotthere find against against sun time. That's

(01:51:21):
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