Eat The Rich

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Thank you for visiting Christopher Media dotyet. Thank you for visiting Christopher Media
dot net. Welcome to Jen Exhausted, Chris, I'm Rich, I'm Jeff.
We have return. Oh it's athrowback show because we're starting out with
Elon. Elon last week making somenews once again. Oh and people are

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pissed, are they? Though?But Elon last week during an interview pretty
much. I believe he told advertisersif they were going to try to blackmail
him with advertising money, that hecan go that they can go fuck themselves
any specifically call out the CEO ofDisney. Oh he did say, yeah,

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Bob, if you're in the audience, that's how I feel. Yeah,
yeah, Hey, hi Bob.Yeah. And this is in response
to I don't know if you've beenfollowing it, like all right, I
feel since Kanye and since this wholething has gone down since October seventh,

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I feel we're getting a little loosewith what we consider anti Semitism. Am
I alone on this, No,because I feel Elon has been and if
you listen to the show, Iam in support of Israel. So it's
call kill that narrative really quick.But I feel Elon has just been with

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giving his opinions on certain tweets thatI don't think have been that all outright
anti semitic. He's getting hit withthat label in the in the ADL,
the Anti Defamation League, an organizationwho I feel is currently jumping the shark,

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is encouraging advertisers to boycott and leaveX, and Elon's going, all
right, then fucking and I don'tdisagree with that. Like I think he
is in a position like there's We'vetalked about it before. I think it's
it's it's an Adam Carolla term.There's a difference between fuck you money and
fuck me money. Elon's got fuckme money. I feel with I want

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to keep saying the T word,but I refused to be one of those
people that you know keeps, youknow, driving by the graveyard wishing the
body would, would you know,come up out of the ground. Uh.
I feel with X. Everyone keepsthe United States thinks they're like the
center of the universe. And ifyou guys remember when Elon bought Twitter,

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one of the first things he broughtup was how big the user base in
Japan was compared to the United Idon't think I think the United States fell
off the map with X, Idon't think he'd give a fuck. I
think that's where part of this comesfrom. And I don't think the United
States realize it because we love tothink we're in the center of the fucking

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universe for everything. I have completelyforgotten about that. With Japan, it
was one of the things he saidhe wanted to do more was monetize that
user base. Because they did that, I believe it was I don't want
to say it was twice the atleast twice the amount of Japanese Twitter users,
but it was considerably more probably savethem a whole lot of headache if
the United States didn't just fall offwith us. I feel with this whole

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situation, it's a bunch of peopleare mad other voices are being let into
their echo chamber. That's all thisis. It's not even that other voices
are being let in because other peoplewith different opinions have been there. It's
just that they're allowed to basically playby well compared to Twitter's old terms of
service, free elon. I mean, it's pretty much the wild West now

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and they can't handle that. It'swhen their whole stick is we're upset that
that people are allowed to say thesethings, and people walk in and just
say them to their face, andthere's no they can throw a tantrum.
I can't believe you said that.You see what it was said, blah
blah blah blah blah. And yeah, and if people in authority just shrug
and go, yeah, they're allowedto say that, fuck you want us
to do, their stick kind ofgoes away. That's what I'm saying.

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I think that's why, for themost part, he understands that if he's
not going to bow to the pressureof the quote unquote progressives, but let's
just fuck it. I'm gonna settlefor the so called progressives. Uh yeah,
he's going to lose their driving trafficto Twitter, slash acts whatever the
fuck, So he might as well, Yeah, focus on Japan. And

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Japan's a lot easier probably to marketand advertise too, because Japan is culturally
Japanese and they are unapologetic about that. Like you guys understand what I'm saying
when I say that, right,Yeah, Japan doesn't give a shit.
You're Japanese and they're just like,yeah, we're not going to play to
the back row not happened. Sofrom a business standpoint, it has to

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be easier to deal with. Ithas to be and if there's a there's
a the possibility to monetize it.And let's be honest, there's almost like
a tech fetish in Japan. Andpeople seem in Japan too, because I
want to say that the freemium orto pay to win model or the however
you want to call it, thatis in video games. It's just it's

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now been here for going on twentyyears and it's just here to stay.
It started in Japan, so they'realready used to slapping down some of their
fucking hard earned yen or whatever thefuck they their money is called to use
some tech technology. They're much moreit seems like they're much more comfortable with
that, whereas like here, Ithink if you had to pay to use

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Facebook, you had to pay touse like X, people would be like,
I'm not fucking fuck that, fuckyou, I'm out. Especially they
wouldn't have the numbers they have nowfor fucking sure. Period. Yeah.
But also but these same people whobolso bitch about there's too many ants,
well, which one do you want? Man? Shit costs money this is
just the United States. It's kindof how the world works. You want
it for free, there's going tobe at you don't want ads, you're

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gonna have to pay for it.And even then once she used to paying
for it, they'll give you addsanyway, cable TV, satellite radio looking
at you. So yeah, it'sAnd I've seen other stories too about there's
allegedly being in other CEOs sending textsand emails to this Linda Yakarino chick who's
the new person in charge of X, telling her to resign before she can

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she embarrasses herself and all that shit. And it's like, what a cult
this all this shit is is.It's really starting to just to me just
seem really really culty. And I'mstarting to get I had this feeling last
week, and maybe I've mentioned itbefore. Rich you're Bill Hecks guy,
You're you're you're familiar with the man'smaterial, right, you know, remember

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how we felt about conservatives, howanybody really far to the right is hiding
a deep, dark secret. I'mstarting to have this kind of feeling about
anybody really far to the left,anybody who's really woke, Like we're gonna
dig in your past and find somen words or some shit or you were
like you know, or a clanmeeting or some shit. Like anybody who

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is like too far to the left, I'm starting to wonder about what's what?
What are you trying to make penancefor. It's the same theory as
no one's more afraid of being robbedthan a thief, you know, or
no one's in scrubs. And interms of scrubs, you have the curse
of knowledge what the pediatrician told doctorCox when they brought their child in the

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first time. So yeah, Imean, yeah, yeah, I agree
with that absolutely. Yeah it is. It's all very apologetic, but it's
also I don't know, I feellike a lot of people on the way
far left, it's like it's likea competition to see who can be the
most tolerant. As he's sorry,I had a whole routine about it.

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How like white people like it's likea game on Instagram and white people are
trying to get woke points. Yes, yeah, it's I've seen that on
like the very I don't know alot of people in my personal life who
are extremely far left leaning or rightleaning. Most people I know in real
life are very much so like Imean, I kind of feel this way,

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but I understand other people's points ofview. You know, surprise,
surprise, most people are actually reasonable. You know who? The reasonable people
tend to be, people who aren'tscreaming in other people's faces with their political
beliefs are twenty four to seven's SteelChris rockroutine. Right, depends what you
ask them about. When it comesto murder, I'm conservative. When it

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comes to prostitution, I'm liberal.Yeah, taxes I'm conservative, Yeah,
drug use I'm liberal. You know, hey, if you can cherry pick
from the fucking Desert trilogy for yourown version of whatever the fuck religion you're
calling it this far or denomination ofwhatever fucking religion that they're calling and they

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come up with this week, wecan cherry pick from the political spectrum.
And that's my point, because whothe fuck is all left wing? Right
wing? Anyways? And that's wherethis purity test shit. If you've never
heard this term, that's what thatterm it means. That's what purity test
is. Purity tests are not somethingyou give other you give excuse me,

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Purity tests are not something you giveyour enemy they're not something you hold.
H Well, I guess you couldhold strangers if you don't know their political
leaning up to it to kind ofget a political compass and find out where
they're political true north points, Iguess. But purity tests are intergroup testing

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of are you thinking the right way? Brother? If not, we'll correct
that for you. That's what puritytests are. That's basically what we're talking
about here. Yeah, if youtry to do that with gay people,
that's what they call that conversion therapy, which is wild to me that people
just assume that, oh, ifyou're gay, that all gay people must

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be one certain way. It killsbecause I can't believe I could understand it.
More so with our generation, anddefinitely our parents' generation and any generation
older than our parents' generation, especiallyany any generation older in our parents to
where if they meant a non stereotypicallyswishy gay man, and he was like,

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maybe almost stereotypically masculine, but thenlike after knowing this just masculine dude
for six seven months, he's like, yeah, I'm gay. That that
would blow people's doors off, Butit does to this day still. It's
just very it's very strange It's verystrange because it's like, if you're so

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enlightened, why does this stuff stillmatter because it becomes Okay, well you're
gay, but you can pass.This is going back to the purity test.
Shit. You know what I'm saying. This is how they test,
like intergroup testing of each other's faith. I guess like like like if you
and I say, like, you'regay, but you're not gay gay gay
gay, Yeah, that's a hatecrime by yeah, yes, yes,

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they're they're just they're just speaking theirtruth. We are hate we are istaphobic.
We are and you know, youknow this one goes down and we
definitely can't say it, but we'renot beholding any one. I'm gonna say
it right now. You know we'vewitnessed this and you know that still goes
on. You know, you're black, but you're not like black black.

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I've heard more black people say thatto black people. No, that's what
I'm saying, Black people. Blackpeople all the time. White people say
that, oh, there's going tobe a meeting and you're definitely losing your
job and hi U yeah, someuh, some audio of a podcast if

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you have surfaced here at the office, and we'd like you to come on
down to the HR department. Bringeverything in your desk with you too.
Yeah, make sure to bring yourkeys to the executive washroom. No,
dude. Yeah. People are people, and that's that's the other thing is
that like all these all these maniacsthat are fucking so far to the left

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or right or whatever, buried uptheir own fucking ass with their ideologies,
no one's ever pure enough, noone's ever good enough. They're looking.
The irony is most of these peopleare are are atheist, would claim to
have some sort of if like almostauthoritarian bent. Maybe you would get it

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a one who's like I'm a halfasked anarchist. But what they're really looking
for is Jesus. They're looking fora perfect Christ like figure who's never done
anything against the progressive agenda. That'swhat they are constantly look at. That
is what all these purity test.It's it's shifting out the people of insufficient
faith, I guess, and theprogressive ideology. If you're looking for a

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perfect person, good luck. Aperfect candidate does not exist for either part.
Okay about good but like whatever,I don't know. Whenever you're talking
about things like that, whenever you'retalking about looking for the person who has
never done anything that they shouldn't doper left ideology, right, correct,

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there is a sorry, I'm tryingto like get my thoughts together. There
there is a whole. Like,at some point this whole you have to
support everybody. Love is love,Love is love, support everybody. The
pendulum of swinging way too far though, because then you get to these points
where you have maps becoming a thing. And that used to to not tolerate

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people who wanted to have sex withkids, used to be the thing you
were supposed to do, Like,no, we don't tolerate that. But
now, in this race to bethe most tolerant of humans, that's somehow
becoming a well we can't say theword pedophile. That's offensive and we don't
want to hurt their feelings. Yousee what I'm saying. That's just the
easiest example that I can grab ahold of. But there's going to be

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others, and I'm sure there areothers. Oh absolutely, no, it's
it's I get what you're saying,absolutely, And this is why, God,
this is because you're kind of gettinginto like the postmodern I guess the
theory behind a lot of the actionsthat happen with this stuff constantly, constantly,

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you putting people through purity tests andhaving an ever shifting goalpost. Those
two things allow you to disregard thepast out of hand. Once you've gotten
it every bit of use you canfrom the past. Now you can demonize
the past and demonize the people whostill hold on to the past. So
you can now get the younger peoplewho are always going to want to be

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more subversive. We're going to wantto do more outland as shit, especially
when your whole message is to pumpin their head. Let the past die,
kill it if you must, whichis a direct quote from one of
the Star Wars films that Disney putout. So, I mean this is
in the the zeitgeist of the country. This is yeah, I don't that's
all built into how this shit is. It works, and people can go

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no, that's conspiracy theory. Haveyou ever read up any of these theories?
Have you ever looked into how they'reapplied? You ever looked into the
books, the papers, the discussions, the debates that go on about these
fucking theories and the application of themin society, and when they when these
when these tactics have been implied appliedto societies before. No, because it's

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all out there. So why isthat all out there if it's all bullshit?
By the way, these are theseare people who are are respected and
these are not quacks. But thenwhat happens once again gold post moving along
with constantly destroy everything that came beforeyou. Well, you just anyone who
disagrees with you is an istaphobe.Is that this is it that we find

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whatever the scarlet letter is in theparlance of your fucking times and slap it
on ther fucking head. These arenot new plays. They're just dressed up
different. They're running the same oldplays out of a new formation. It's
a football analogy. If you getit, not you jes sorry. I
just I'm like, we're not onthe sports podcast anymore, but are chilling
the sports and that I don't know, We're gonna be partial sports podcast here

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in the next couple of weeks.As playoffs that have start happening, I
just can't wait to lose in thefirst round and I can sit back in
enjoy playoffs. I look at fantasyfootball like PATRISA. Neil looks at fucking
I just fuck so I have agood memory to jerk off to later.
That's it. Like when I'm gettingsome head, I'm like, I'll be
glad when this is over so Ican think about it later and enjoy it.
You know what I'm saying. Like, I just I just want to

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like give me that that fucking youknow, perfect season, first round exit
playoffs. There you go. Everyone'sgonna remember that from that year. Half
the people won't remember who fucking wonthe goddamn league unless they won or were
in a championship game, but they'llremember that I did that About legacy is
what you leave behind, baby,That's what's up. I'm coming for both

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of you anyway. That's what I'msaying. I'm gonna lose. I'm gonna
lose. It's gonna be to oneof you two assholes in the first round
by a lot. I know it'sgonna happen, so it doesn't matter.
I'm fucked. I've built quite theteam off waivers. Hey, you got
the first round to sit around anddo nothing. You had to buy.
Okay, when I say first round, it's shorthand for the first round that

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I play in the playoffs. That'swhat I mean. My first round of
the playoffs as as a participant.Anyways, all right, enough podcasting for
nine people? Literally, all right, so where were we talking about?
The the most perfect of the leftleaning? And it's the same. It

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is the same on the right aswell, any extreme sorts of views.
It's the same. It's like,how tolerant can I be? And then
if you go extreme right and Iknow a couple of these people in real
life too, it really does seemlike how intolerant can I be? Without
actually saying the words I am intolerant? You know what I mean? No,

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because I've known people who just likethey don't care. They say the
words people's faces, who are thosewords? They don't give fuck? Well,
I mean that might be a generationalthing because these were all I mean,
this has been it's been decades sinceI've seen it like that. But
like the skinheads back in the daythat I would see when we would play,

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like when I was in my firstshitty punk band. Yeah, the
skinheads I saw locally in the earlynineties. Yeah, yeah, they didn't
go fun. And that's the closest, like, that's the closest to me.
I was like, Wow, that'ssomeone who is absolutely willing to live
and die for their ideology, andtheir ideology is fucking insane. That was
my first exposure to that, Iguess because I mean that, Yeah,

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I think I was about fourteen.That's pretty impressive to see someone, I
mean not in a good way either, to see someone walk up and just
be like, hey, what's up? N words right to fucking a bunch
of black people's face sitting there witha fucking shaved head, fucking red suspenders
and white laces in their boots,those and don't know that's all the signs
of you about to have a verybad time with this white boy. Yeah,

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I'd just letting you know it's aboutto go down. I'm leaving basically
basically if you I don't. Idon't even think they like Christians at a
certain point because they're just fucking Theyget into the mixing with the neo Nazi
and the skinhead and then they havethese offshoots, so you don't even know
what what really kind of crazy asscracker you're dealing with. It could be
one. I mean pretty much skinheadscrossed the board. If you're not if

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you are visibly not white, oryou're Jewish, they're not gonna be a
fan of you. You know whatI'm saying, That's that's pretty much.
That's pretty fucking safeer all to goby everything else I don't know, but
yeah, because I mean most ofthe time, and like most of the
intolerance I saw that would almost wantto seem like they wanted it to boil

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over into violence, was about religion, and most of it was for religions
that I'm like, you guys arefighting about Baptists versus Catholics. To be
honest, a bunch of Muslims showedup hard whooping your ass, you just
wouldn't give a fuck about Catholics versusBaptist It'd be Christians versus Muslims at that
point, would it not? Yes, And the minute the Christians won,

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it would go back to Catholics versusBut madness, how long did we get
to the podcast where I finally snappedand yelled sorry, I was really trying,
guys, Like seriously, So yeah, so this week got there from
elon because where do we go next? It would go almost anywhere with the
list we have. Well, canI just say real quick that I think

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it's fucking hilarious that Disney is justI mean, this whole Elon thing isn't
really a it's a publicity. It'staken an l for Disney, But Disney's
taken major fucking hits major, andit is. The Mars is now considered
the worst movie in MCU. Yeah, like, I don't even think that
it's going to break two hundred millionand its budget was close to three hundred

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million. Wish movie that a animatedmovie that came out Thanksgiving weekend flopped.
That's usually a home fucking run.Yes, there are certain release windows during
the year that in Hollywood and behindthe scenes or to anyone who it's not
really even behind the scenes anymore ifyou follow what goes on in the business

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side of Hollywood, there's release windowsthroughout the year that it's like they pretty
much only put what they consider alayup or just you know, give me
and those spots, and this wasone of them. So yeah, I
mean, Disney's taking it on thechin. Because then you also have I

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know that they tried their best topushed the New Indiana Jones movie as close
to fucking Christmas as they could beforethey released it on Disney Plus. But
they wanted to get that that overthe half of December, people signing up
for Disney plus you know, bullshit, and they had to release it.
But I mean that new Indiana Jonesmovie was this year too. That thing

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was a huge slot because that wassupposed to be not only wrapping up the
Indiana Jones that we grew up with, but supposedly setting the table for the
passing of the torch or the mantle. None of that happened. Think about
how movies are these days. Whenthey planned when they make movies, they
planned for a at least a trilogy, and they start planning and writing and

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blah blah blah and this and that. It's a lot of money and going
down to tubes when the first moviecomes out and it just tanks. So
yeah, where you go, Disney, Where to go? I don't pay
attention to any of the movies comingout. I just assume all movies coming
out right now are something I don'twant to see and until someone tells me
otherwise, That's how I live.It is kind of think the receiver.

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I think the receipts are coming inand I think the phrases woke capitalism and
they're not good. Yeah, well, shocking when you're playing to a group
that generally through historically does not havea bunch of money, that the that
the returns aren't great. Imagine,Yeah, like the advertising demographic, I

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mean me and rich were taught itwas twenty five to fifty four, because
that's who has all the money.That hasn't changed, but for some reason
it's now turned to eighteen to thirtyfour last time I checked, historically a
broke group of people because they're stillall finding their footing in life and figuring
out their careers and all that shit, paying back their college, all that

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crap. Most people I know myselfincluded money didn't show up to like the
mid thirties, I was gonna say, and that twenty ford to what was
it, twenty four to twenty fiveto fifty four, twenty five to fifty
four, that twenty five to thirtyThat was people who either hit a home

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run coming out of fucking college andjust went into a fucking into a career
and doctors and lawyers and shit.Yeah yeah, or people who started working
right out of high school, apprenticedthrough a fucking trade or learned to trade
and now they're pretty much they've startedto hit there. They're earning potential after

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they put in what that could beseven five to seven years of work to
get to that point. You knowwhat I'm saying. Now it's like eighteen
to thirty four, and I'm thinking, why are you eighteen year olds have
that much disposable income to where they'redriving the economy. Well, there is
a larger portion of them now livingat home till almost thirty four, so

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there is a little bit of that. It's easy to buy shit when someone
else is paying for the roof overyour head and all the utilities. This
is true. Yeah, still it'slike, what do you the money for
a down payment? Stopped going toItaly every year? Well I was gonna
say, like, what are youreally? But what are you marketing to
them that they have that much?Because I'm thinking about like the jobs I

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had at eighteen, even if Iwasn't paying bills, it wasn't like I
was swimming in cash. It wasn'tlike, you know, I didn't worry
about how I was going to getfrom point A to point B, how
before my paycheck, you know,the next paycheck. So it just seems
very strange that, I mean,yes, there's a market there for that
young of people with disposable income,but for them to be considered the prime

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demographic, that just does not feelright as far as a realistic and logical
and long term fucking outlook. Ithink it's more maybe it's like the new
drug dealer mentality to our capitalism,right, get them early, Yeah,
you get them watched into wanting allthis shit and thinking they need it early.

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So it's more of a instill abrand loyal team, because it's almost
a cynical let's they might as wellbe loyal to our brand, because they're
going to be loyal to somebody's brandanyways. That's more of a that's that's
more of a how do you sleepat night? Well, fuck it,
that's the drug dealer mentality. Fuckit, somebody's gonna sell them drugs anyways,
might as well have been me.Yeah, that's what you just called

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it, Chris, the drug dealermentality. But yeah, but it's but
yeah, but again, but thereceipts are coming back, and yeah,
it turns out these people's parents,who are actually the ones out there spending
the money in the economy, don'twant that ship. I mean, if
if there's any lesson from that inthis year? Right, it's December,

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right, everyone does their year inreview. I mean an Heiser Busch learned
that lesson this year. Yes,that I was thinking about that today just
from a basic like I don't knowshit about Mark. I know, I
know a little bit, but Idon't know enough to say I could work
in marketing. But you didn't golook at the receipt for who buys your

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ad campaigns? Oh look, NASCAR, tons of country music and sports events,
tons of rock concerts, Like really, I think, well rock high
concerts. That's a coin. That'sa coin. Talk is bud Light was
instilled, along with pretty much Budweiserat almost every major fucking concert venue that

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I've ever been to ever. AndI've been to concert venues all over the
country. So I mean, it'sthat's not a moment. It's just I'm
just saying, like, it's I'vebeen to McDonald's over the country. Guess
what coke? Yeah, I know, they all serve coke. You go
to any concert venue, they allserve bud bud Light. Yeah, it's

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it's you know, it's not anexotic experience I had, And it's like
so I no, I absolutely getit. I think what happened is they
got the wrong people in and thiswe're at that. Oh fuck, I
wish I could. She's from themagage group of I wish this is how
were That's I think was part ofthe problem. Well, yes, yes,
and that and that goes into Iwas going to just say they vastly

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overestimated the casual bud light drinker versusthe bud light drinker who's brand loyal.
Yes, but you can't. Theywill not remain brand loyal if you insult
their politics and or them personally versusthe people who are like, man,
I just drink it because it's fuckingthe cheapest thing at the fucking when I
go to Pine Nab, that's all. That's the only reason I fucking drink

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this shit. Those people don't care. And they were like, that's most
people. No, most people whokeep alcohol companies afloat are hardcore alcoholics.
It's like gun collectors and gun nutskeep gun companies afloat in America. I'm
sure in other parts of the worldis just warlords and right desk spots and
dictators. You know, you know, the usual people you find it at

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you know, those wonderful parts ofthe world, but you get my court,
I mean where everything's better. Butyeah, and a lot of that
is you have people coming in whoare coming out of a US education system.
As far as you know, collegegoes, it's pretty much it's a
uniform at this point. You eithercome out in lockstep belief with this bullshit,

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or you learn to keep your mouthshut about the bullshit they shoved down
your fucking throw to college just toget that piece of paper so you can
get a better a shot at abetter life. It's pretty much your only
two choices is you're in college andyou're gonna be there for a long time,
like well enough for a degree.You're not just there to prove to
your privation officer. Nah, I'mnot going to go back to prison like

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when we or college age. Partof it for us was told go to
college to learn viewpoints from other people. I feel now that is not part
of what you go to college for. Now you go you learn this viewpoint
or it's going to be a roughfu four years for you. Yeah,

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did you go to college to learnthat the viewpoints you've been learning from other
people are wrong? And this iswhy and these are all the bad things
you are if you believe anything different. Yeah, and fuck that. It
took me one semester to reject thatshit. At least as far as the
university system goes. You know,community college, you know, it's you
know what the Chris Rock references dating. I'll call it high school with ash

(30:23):
trays. That's what it was whenI went there. Yeah, yes,
that is absolutely what the community collegeI went to was as well. Even
then, sorry, high school wassmoke brakes because then you had to go
in science. Yeah. So,but it's we're not even two years out

(30:44):
for me hearing that my nephew wasn'tgoing to college and me going like,
oh, I hope he likes workingfor a living. And now I'm like,
yeah, I'm kind of okay thathe's not in that system having his
head filled with a bunch of bullshit, like you said, being told that
everything he's been taught to believe overhis life make some bad person. Yep,
because he's got a mom who goesto church, and shit, fuck

(31:06):
that should be there to learn awhite collar job. It's white collar trade
school. My viewpoint on it hasa changed since when I got out of
high school. That's really much whatyou want a white collar job, you
go to college. Yeah, butthat's that what that's not part of the
long march through the institutions. It'snot part of the plan. So I'll
tell you, why are you treatingcollege like something that should be a logical

(31:30):
and reasonable thing that is going toprovide value for the money you you dump
into it? Being rational again?Well, it's like it's like anytime I
hear any of these so called authoritariancommunists or you know, hardcore communists that
I know, and usually the youknow, it doesn't take long until they're

(31:53):
man, I can't wait for this, and I can't wait for this,
and I'm going to go on myspending spree and this and that, and
I'm like, what part of thegreater good is shoppings for you? Brother?
Excuse me, comrade, I justneed to know that. I really
need to know that. And also, what part of the fucking the greater
good in the state are you goingto serve once the revolution is done and

(32:15):
over with, Because I'm gonna tellyou what, the state ain't gonna let
you make your shitty music and writeyour shitty poetry and call that fighting the
good fight. So you better getused to slave labor, motherfucker, because
that's all you're good for. Ifthat's your skill set, and your definition
of comfortable and the government's definition ofcomfortable as far as incomes wildly different numbers.

(32:40):
Yes, I really feel this way. Anyone who thinks the government should
be in control of all this shit, go be a guest of the government.
And if you really if you wantto, go be a guest of
the government in hard mode, goto prison. Easy mode is joining the
Coastguard. No, easy mode ispolitics, kind of I don't know,

(33:02):
like the entrance burier to politics.I'm just thinking, like the military's joining
the marine is not same thing asjoining the fucking coast Guard. Let's be
honest, guys. You know whatI'm saying. There's a reason that you
know, it's like, oh,the Marines, it's a department of the
Navy. Yes, the men's department. Yes, we get it. You
know there's a reason for that.There's a different set of standards for different

(33:23):
branches of the military. All right, There's a reason air Force is called
chair force. Anyways, Sorry,I have not heard that since I used
to have recruiters come into the restaurantI used to work at, talking about
it Chair Force. Yes, oh, oh, the recruiting station that I

(33:46):
spent most of my excuse me,wasted most of my time at. Yeah,
there was all types of new ship, like when we would get like
someone who came in from a differentpart of the country or a part of
the country that we had had anyonefrom before, and they had terminology we
would adopt it in and yeah,like and we had everybody had smart ass
answers for everything, like Army aren'treal men yet, that's what it stands

(34:08):
for, or aren't ready for marinesyet? Navy never again? Volunteer yourself
marines, muscle muscles are required,intelligence not essential, you know shit like
that. So nice, interesting,Well, the Alzheimer's hasn't said an yet
because I can remember that, somy long term memory is good because that's

(34:29):
been thirty fucking years ago. Now, thank you for visiting Christopher Media dot
yet. Thank you for visiting ChristopherMedia Dot yet. Well, let's see,

(34:50):
I'm not to get segue from thisone. What I was gonna say,
I was, why don't we goahead and talk about Uh, no,
one is trying to you to eatbugs except meal worms for meal prep.
Yeah. Okay, So one ofmy favorite things whenever you're dealing with
with people who are trying to basicallypiss on your leg and tell you it's

(35:12):
raining. I'm sorry, people aretrying to gaslight you. I forget okay,
no, go back down, ramdown, all right? So,
uh is one of the one oftheir favorite tactics is this is never gonna
this is not happening. It's neverhappened. It's never going to happen.
This is all in your head.You're you're crazy, it's conspiracy theory.
Ship then it starts to happen,and it's okay, it's happening, but

(35:35):
it's a very extremely rare occurrence.It's not that common. You need to
calm the fuck down, et cetera, et cetera, and then it just
progresses until eventually it gets to okay, it's happening. Okay, well you
know what, it's happening. It'sa good thing. And if you don't
agree with it, then you're theproblem. And eat the buzz. The
viruses are the vaccines. Anyway.There's another example of when this this tactic

(35:59):
has been used recently. Well,you can really you can yet again,
like Haley's comment, but much morefrequently. You can watch this in real
time happen on BuzzFeed, posted Novembertwenty first, twenty twenty three. That's
this year for you people who arejust coming down from that high. Joe
Burrows Joel Burrows, yes not aquarterback, close enough name, but anyways,

(36:23):
writes the fucking article crickets meal wormants. Over the last eight years,
the Aussi media industry has taken akeen interest in these insects. Why
because they believe it's such beasties couldsoon be your go to snack meal worms
for prep Why I've been eating insectsfor the last four months. And he
just goes into a BuzzFeed article,Well it passes for a BuzzFeed article,

(36:46):
all the reasons that and methods thathe eats these things and blah blah blah
blah blah. And I mean,do do I even need to fucking say
it? Do I even need tofucking say? Let me guess they're better
for you than red meat? Yep? Oh shocking. He loves his cricket
protein cookies to this very day.Uh and most Aussies I've chatted to about

(37:13):
this. It seemed to be interestedin eating crickets themselves. Yeah, it's
just the outback. They don't haveto eat crickets, is what I'm guessing.
You know, this is, thisis, this is I don't know
what passes for an Aussie hipster,but whatever, I don't even care that
people are eating crickets, right Idon't. I'm not gonna say that I

(37:36):
will one hundred percent never ever eatinsects, like knowingly, but don't tell
me that one. Oh no,that's never going to be a thing.
Okay, well here it is.This is all in my lifetime. By
the way, I've heard all thisshit. I've heard these arguments back and
forth, and I've just been onthe sidelines, not really having a fucking
rooting interest in either side. Imean, I'm still like, I kind

(37:59):
of feel like lab grown meat.Feed it somebody for ten years. They're
still alive. Shit, Myisa,why not you want your other fucking fake
shit? We put on our bodiesand we can't help it even if you're
trying to. Jess, would youlike to take the floor for this one.
We have an unlimited amount of timevia ware a podcast. I know

(38:19):
that you could get show up yourown ass, that you would come out
your own mouth, and then crawlup our own asses and we come out
our own mouths, and then wejust become an oro boros of asked the
mouth here. I know we wouldbecause this is your fucking wheelhouse. You
know this shit too well. Yes, so fucking tired of these methods being
used and fucking people being told they'recrazy, and it dividing families, dividing

(38:43):
friends up, just driving just ingeneral, a more divisive wedge between people
in society. We are back tothe point that I remember as a kid,
where you just can't talk about certainthings in public with people. Whereas,
like in my teenage, the twenties, and like at least the beginning

(39:06):
my thirties, you could still havediscussions with people you didn't know as long
as you had them respectfully. Nowthere's no respectful. Now. The minute
you get to we disagree, it'sfucking nuke it from orbit. There's no
other fucking way to be sure.Four yes, yeah. Ironically from people
who say they want to start adialogue, No, you want to start
your dialogue. And if we're nothaving your dialogue, then you fucking shut

(39:30):
it. Down. Yep, Andlike I said, this is where we're
right back to where I was whenI was a kid. Now, but
it was coming from the right.The social pressure to not talk about these
things came from the different, theother political wing. Now it's the left
going, well, you know,there's no reason to debate this. This
is settled, science, settled,science settled. Whatever the fuck really,
because that's changed four times in theX amount of fucking time. Oh really,

(39:54):
well, that's just how that is. Sorry, science has never settled.
I mean, aren't these same peoplethat used to goof on the Catholic
Church for fucking going Okay, well, I know we said for the last
two thousand years, this is whatGod was saying, but what he really
meant to say? Because they're justrecounting their own fucking religion constantly, Isn't
that One of the biggest fucking criticismsof the Catholicism across the board pretty much

(40:21):
fall up to interpretation. Rich Allright, you take a context, Julie,
My point being it's the same,Yeah, it's the same wishy washy
language, the same mealy mouthedfucking goalpostmoving and will actually yeah, because sorry,
I guess it's disgusting. I hatethat I've lived long enough to see

(40:44):
it swing from one side to theother because I were just, oh,
can I just have not lived inlike that golden time? Because the more
I talk to people who were there, even the more I talk to people
this is even I think more importantly, who weren't there. It's not the
eighties that everyone talks about they wantto go back to, it's the nineties
because they're like, dude, youcould say and get away with anything,

(41:05):
and everything was fucking available. Itjust wasn't high speed internet available yet.
And I'm like, oh, soyou're starting to see that the trade off
for freedom over convenience is sometimes reallyokay. But this is this tactic,
watn't it be used on this subject? Because this you will eat z the

(41:27):
bugs and be happy is attached toso many other fucking things that get labeled
as conspiracy theories that are also,by the way, just flat out no,
they're not a lot of times they'remisrepresented, they're represented without context or
with missing context. Yes, Iwill absolutely admit that there are a lot
of people out there who look tosomehow make a buck off of getting people

(41:50):
riled up about bullshit, that's nottrue. What doesn't make sense to me
is there's enough shit to get peopleriled up about that's actually true, that's
provable. Why are we making itup coming to my ted talk and so
is this whole bug thing? What? Uh is this part of getting rid
of greenhouse gases? Is this whatthey're tying it into? Its? Yeah,

(42:12):
the whole World Economic forum? Howto be sustainable? How to you
know, keep being the best youcan be, keep on non offensive,
non offensive. I believe in minimizingthe damage while we're here, but I
keep I'm the the planet is goingto planet when it's done with us.

(42:32):
It's going to be done with us. We had three and a half almost
four years ago, a reminder thatnature is always in charge, and we're
still. I think the hubris onthis climate change stuff is just as like
it's talked about last week. Wouldwell, nature's wrong, We're right.
This is what This is the callwe're making, dude, When the planet's

(42:54):
done with humans. The planet's goingto be done with humans. It don't
we do all the we could say, all the pretty talk we want and
all the initiatives we want, whenthe planet is done with us? It's
going to be fucking done with us. Ask a dinosaur. Oh wait,
you can't. Well, that's justthat's just the proof of one former species

(43:15):
that was dominated on this planet thatwe can prove. Who knows how many
fucking cycles this planet has gone throughthat's purged itself of all proof of any
living species and then restarted again.How many billions of years old is the
planet? And what are humans?Two hundred thousand years old? Yeah?
I mean what is I think thatwhen you fuck? I can't remember exactly

(43:36):
where this I think is like museum, a natural history thing. But if
all of if all of history tracedback to the formation of the planet was
represented by the height of the EmpireState Building in New York City, the
time humans have been on this planetwould be the size of a postage stand
next to the Empire State Building.So that's yes, that's there you go.

(44:00):
We know that much and most ofthat is our best guess. Educated
guesses, but still a best guess. That was a hippie I'll use a
hippie term here. Mother Gaya isalways in charge. Shit. Like I
said, I'm a proponent of lesseningthe damage while we're here. However,

(44:22):
to think that we can stop what'sgoing to happen inevitably, I think is
hubristic and dumb. Well, that'sone of the reasons I've never understood the
fucking sniggering and laughing at at thefact that we need to if we want
to survive as a species, wehave to get off this fucking planet.

(44:43):
That's just a fact. There isa finite amount of time for an available
window for us to be able tosurvive on this planet. Regardless of what
we do or don't do to theplanet. We may speed or impede or
retard that process by artificial means thatwe come up with, Like you said,
Chris, in the end, mothernature is gonna have its way all
there is to it. So I'venever understood, like, why is that

(45:07):
so fucking far fetched when the realityis, if we stay here, no
matter how comfortable we make it,how wonderful we make it, we're not
going to stop the planet from doingwhat it's done god knows how many times
over. Yeah, and we're gonnause all the resources for here long enough,
we're going to use all the resources. That is a fact. We
are a parasite. If you reallywant to go by definition like we show

(45:30):
up, we show up on ahost organism, we use all of the
resources till it fucking dies, andthen we move on. I don't know
this is Jess. I don't knowif this is because Chris isn't a sci
fi nerd or he doesn't have theconspiracy bone fucking in him as big as
we do. But I just keepthinking, why are why are we?

(45:52):
Why is the goal never to getus humans off of this planet into other
fucking bodies in space? And I'mlike, maybe it's because we actually can't
go through you can't travel in space, and they don't want to tell us
that ship they were kind of stuckhere, or it seems to be for
the rich people. But hell,I think dude's company is fucking I'm not

(46:12):
talking about send ship up into orbit. I'm talking travel through fucking space,
land on Mars, put people onMars, m A R R S,
Mars bitches, red rocks. Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
I feel like you're perfectly in themiddle, rich because I'm over here saying
like, yeah, or even landon the moon, so oh that's forgot

(46:37):
about that. Yeah, that won'tbe a hard cell for her rich.
But my point remains, it's like, why is this never talked about?
And anytime you bring it up peoplewho who are like, we need to
look at every every possible solution.So let's all stop eating meat. Let's
basically make cows almost go extinct becausethey're far or what are causing most of

(47:00):
the problems, and we'll all eatbugs, except for the rich people because
they'll be able to keep cows andthey'll be able to eat steak. But
everybody else has to eat bugs,and they'll save humanity and buy us another
six to twelve months. Tops that'sthat's that's the only that's the only response.
That's that's what that's that's how we'regoing to save ourselves as a species.

(47:20):
That's not ridiculous. That's not worthyto be laughed at. That's not
worthy to fucking be ridiculed. Butasking, can we fucking possibly, I
don't know, send humans to anotherplanet or fucking heavenly body in space and
try to colonize that ha ha ha, what are you an idiot? Hey,
don't forget rich, we're getting ridof fossil fuels. We're gonna do

(47:44):
that too by digging into the groundand causing more fucking pollution for digging for
these fucking yeah, I know whatever, I'm on your side on that one.
I'm sorry, Jess, what wereyou going to say? Because is
better than fucking up the atmosphere?Just destroy the thing that gives us all
life. But hey, less greenhousegases. Well, man, this one

(48:08):
of those times it's like without aplanet, there is no atmosphere. This
one of those times I'm like,Hey, I spent quite a few years
being fat as a motherfucker, somaybe if I check out a little bit
early, I'm not really missing allthat much because I don't have to eat
the bugs and be happy with owningnothing. But because, yeah, we

(48:28):
just had another victim of the healthyat any size movement. I don't know
who his chick was. I don'tBrandy Mallory. Cause of death revealed obesity
complications. Apparently she was on ashow called Extreme Weight Loss. This is
according to the official autopsy. Shedied from complications due to obesity. She

(48:52):
had an enlarged heart, elevated bloodindicator suggestive of pre diabetes as factors all
as factors in her overall health.Was she forty forty? Yeah, she
was forty. Here's how they putit. In the autopsy of my opinion
that Brandy Mallory died of complications ofobesity was considered a significant condition. Significant

(49:12):
condition contributing to the to the deathalso list her death as natural when it
comes to the manor Kimsy broke story. Mallory was found dead in an Atlanta
strip mall parking after being after excuseme, after being seen entering her car
the night before, A concern bystandercalled nine one one and said that he
suspected there was a body in thecar as he notices it hadn't moved for

(49:34):
a long time. She competed onseason four of the ABC's Biggest Loser in
twenty fourteen, and last time shehad anything to do with him was in
twenty eighteen. So yeah, healthyat any size. I mean, here's
the deal. Forty I get.I get no fucking pleasure out of like

(49:55):
Tat dancing on his fucking chick's grave. But I mean, this is this
is what I try to tell people. I'm like, look, you have
to know what the fuck you knowwhat you're rolling the dice on before you
agree to roll the dice and understandthat there's no fucking hey, give me
the dice back and we do thatover. It's now this works, And
I mean it sucks because some peoplecan't make it past forty Some people can't

(50:19):
make it past forty five. Phocan't make it past fifty. Some people
live to be fucking eighty five yearsold and they're four hundred pounds and you're
like, how the fuck did thathappen? But it's happened. I mean,
that's that one. Now, thatone. That one is like betting
for the Lions to go to thesuper Bowl earlier this year, and you
know what I'm saying, Like,you're gonna make money on that. So
yeah, well maybe betting for theLions to go to the super Bowl within

(50:44):
two years at the beginning of lastseason, Yeah, maybe that would be
the bet that would you would cashit on because door's closing on this year.
Yeah, no, five defensive startersand I are anyway, Yeah,
I ain't that podcast. We don'tdo that podcast. Yeah, but uh
yeah, it just it sucks,man, It sucks because this is it's

(51:07):
and if it's here's the deal,I'm gonna give it to you. Fucking
rough rugging and Rob Baby, yougotta sign this fucking waiver. I'm gonna
need that fucking uh witnessed and notarizedfor the fucking lawyers. But that's how
rough rugging row it's gonna be.I'm gonna give to you. Yeah,
if you don't die, it's goingto fuck with your body in other ways.

(51:29):
And the fucking story going, andthe bigger you are and the and
the less naturally athletic graceful are areare able to just get back into the
groove of moving after being on yourass and living that type of lifestyle,
the worse it's gonna be for you. I mean, I was an active
kid. I was active as ateenager. I was active in my early

(51:52):
twenties and into my twenties, andthen marriage I got comfortable and I put
on weight like a lot of peoplefucking do it. My thirties happened and
I stopped giving a fuck, AndI mean, like, I got every
fucking reason in the world. ButI can tell you I'm in I'm only
in as good of a shape asI'm in now because I think I was
that type of person when I wasyounger, So it was like, oh

(52:15):
once it doesn't hurt to do thisas much as it used to. I
don't mind doing this anymore. ButI know, I hate to say this.
I know a lot of people who'vebeen obese all their life. They
don't have that in there, sothey have to either develop it or they
have to push through it. Andthat's fucking hard. And if this chick
was far back as almost a decadeago on a show trying to lose weight,

(52:38):
she knew there was a problem.And I mean, of course,
yes, there was the fucking attractionof you're gonna do it in front of
a bunch of fucking people. Butstill, I mean, it's like it
sucks cause this, Yeah, evenif it doesn't kill you, take your
fucking knees away, could take yourfucking sight away, could take just a

(52:59):
There's a doz upon dozens of differentways that all this shit catches up with
you. And no one's talking aboutthat as much as you're talking about Honey,
you're beautiful no matter what, Okay, but you're not healthy no matter
what. That's the dangerous message.I got no problem fat people. I'll
come for fat people used to befat. I got fat friends, you
know. But I know I gota fat friend. Yeah, but I

(53:22):
dated a fat chick. Prob aboutfat people or black chicks, right,
Yeah, you know I might.I might like herve your women, but
I don't like the message of likeI said, the health. I don't
like that phrase healthy at any size. That is false. That what is
what? What's the one that's wrong? On purpose? Miss or disinformation?

(53:44):
Isn't it disinformation? You are nothealthy when you are big? You are
not? You were not. Idon't care what. Self esteem and medical
health are two different fucking things,and in the last day decade plus,
we've tied them in together to thepoint where there are some my I've been

(54:07):
of the doctor a few times inthe last few years. Some doctors don't
weigh you, They just ask you. And true, we did the story
about now how there's a card thatyou can give your doctor that says,
please don't weigh me unless it's medicallynecessary. Oh why, because you don't
want your fucking feelings hurt? Becauseyou knew you fucking ate too many fucking
desserts and you might have some aphysical manifestation in front of you, going

(54:30):
damn, I need to cool itdown. The fucking desserts. The last
time I went to my doctors,they were like, it's one of those
things. You're in the waiting room, they come out and they're like,
they call your name and you followthem down the hallway and they get your
vitals as you go down the hallway. And when it got to where scale
is, I'll be going to thosedoctors twenty seventeen. Yeah, so it's

(54:52):
been a hot minute. You know, I've been there quite a bit.
I stop at the scale and they'relike, oh, may we weigh you?
And I'm looking at this nurse.Hey, yeah, may we weigh
you? And I'm looking at herand I'm like, Okay, I don't
know you by name, because Idon't know any of these nurses by name,
but I've seen his nurse before,so that means I've I've seen her
at least twice a year for acouple of years. You know, I've

(55:14):
lost weight. You got my fileand your fucking hands. You're about to
play the twenty questions for the fuckinguh for the doctor before he comes in
to sit and talk to me.You know what I'm saying. You see
that I like, and I'm like, do you have to ask that?
She's like some people would get offended. What the fuck are you doing at
the doctor right? How about this? Hey, doc, what's wrong with

(55:34):
me? Is this cancer or amole? My best guest from across the
room without my glasses, it's abowl. You're good, it's my best
guess. How fuck is that?Next time? Next time I'm asked my
height and wait, I'm gonna saysix two and then they're gonna look at
me and I'm gonna be like,doesn't that seem ridiculous? Now fucking weigh
me and take my goddamn height.Well, the doctor, he's like,

(56:00):
I just go off of whatever yourdriver's license is. And I'm like,
you understand they probably haven't checked thatin two decades. Like, seriously,
I don't know anyone's driver's license thatthat isn't our exact pipe for most people.
That's yeah, that's what they wrotewhen they were sixteen and they're just
riding it. Yeah, I hateit's jen exhausted. That's that's that's the

(56:21):
name of the fucking podcast, folks. So get off our lawn as we
yell at these clouds. But uh, everything shrinks with age. You ain't
gonna be as tall going out asyou were coming into this work or when
you entered the world as an adultat eighteen. Let's put that way everything,
damn it. I mean, Idon't know. I'm not walking around
fucking I'm not walking around giving thestrangers how your father's and being like,
I'll be back in five years witha measuring sticks. See how you fucking

(56:43):
measure up to? Then your noseand ears are always growing. I enjoy
that one. Cool, We're gonnaoklike for Rangey by the time we die.
Awesome, But doesn't extend to thepenis unfair? Okay, I want
to go down a tiny little conspiracyrabbit hole. I want you guys to
follow me with this because we've saidfor a long time and I agree with

(57:04):
you completely this whole healthy at anysize? No, absolutely not. And
I'm gonna try This is a thoughtI just had, So I'm gonna try
my best articulate this, and y'allmaybe held me along or ask questions if
I'm not making a ton of sense. But I think maybe this healthy at
any size movement. Maybe it's notjust overweight people pushing this. Maybe this

(57:28):
is like a government push. Andmaybe the reason this is a government push
is because the food that they subsidizeto put in our food is shit that's
making us fat and sick. Thesoybean oils and the sugars and everything,
and the high fruitos, corn syrupand just the chemicals that are inflaming all

(57:51):
of us and doing it. Imean, people can still lose weight,
but it's so much harder than justput down the extra dessert, don't eat
the cookie at dinner. There arepeople who truly struggle and who don't understand,
you know, that what they're eatingis inflaming them, or that they're
eating something that's causing them to staymore hungry. So instead of people looking

(58:19):
into that and going, you know, why why am I struggling? Why
is this harder than it used tobe, It's just easier. Healthy at
any size, beautiful at any size, don't fat shame me. You know,
I don't even want to know whatI weigh. I don't even wear
I don't wear jeans anymore. Ijust wear leggings and sweatpants. That's acceptable
now, I would. Yeah,it's hard to say that's coming from the

(58:42):
government because one of the good thingsObama did is everything you eat, you
now have to know what's in itfor the calories in it, not the
increasible No, the ingredient's got tobe on it too, well, not
onli like fast food menus, Yeahthey do. It's got what what is
in it has to be like ifit's not in the title, it's got
to be listed under it. Whatis in it? Like I've cheeseburger,

(59:06):
it's self explanatory, but I butI can think what you're getting at is
not all the extra shit in theingredients doesn't have to be listed. Now.
The workaround on that is additives andpreservative. The workaround for that is
it's on our website, yes,which, by the way, which,
by the way, I tested thatwith one place I used to work with

(59:28):
our lunch meat, and it wasthe most generous fucking it's first of all,
it's it's deli meat. It's fullof fucking sodium, it's full of
fucking preservatives and all that other shipand anywhere like. It was the most
liberal, like not liberal as inpolitically liberal, as in like very generous,

(59:49):
the most generous way of being like, this is the healthiest fucking deli
meat that we could possibly serve.And it's like, no, the fuck
it's not so. I mean,that's all shit right there. They're just
telling you whatever the fuck that theythink you want to hear as a consumer.
Well yeah, and this this wholeadvertising of things that are heart healthy
like and then they give examples likesoybean oil. The fuck soybean oil is

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not a heart healthy oil, absolutelynot fortified grains like I y'all may not
be on that same train with me, And that's okay. I don't think
that we should be eating a bunchof fortified bleat shit all the time.
I don't think that's how we weremade to be. You know, it's
come out that the food pyramid thatwe've all been taught is a bunch of

(01:00:37):
bullshit. Yeah, I'll come upwith by uh uh. Wasn't Kellogg's one
of the companies that helped develop itand somebody else? Yeah? Yeah,
And sadly, I think one ofthe main people that were beating at drum
loudest for the longest time about thefood pyramid being basically well, he said
inverted. But I think people wouldargue that it inverted my be a little

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extreme. It's just it's it's notproportional to what we really need, and
that would be at doctor Atkins.Yes, he was saying that for fucking
decades, but because his diet wasso fucking stigmatized and eventually just it became
it became almost a parody of itselfto be on Atkins that now they've rebranded

(01:01:22):
it with a couple of tweaks andstarted calling it Keto Keto or or South
Beach or what you know what I'msaying, they just dress it up and
bring it back out. They're allvery different, or they're not very different,
but those are all different. Dude. That shit works really cutting out
grains and sugar and putting in moreprotein and fruits and vegetables. That just

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sounds right when you say it.Yes, Okay, So whenever we're talking
about Adkins, I do not supportAdkins. It does work, It absolutely
works. I lost a ton ofweight on Adkins in high school. I
had gotten chubby, and I saya ton. I lost like sixty pounds

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but enough, and it was sorry, we don't have that drop, but
I'd have been perfectly hitsing with SoI hate it best impersonation of it,
but it does. It works,and it works by putting your body in
ketosis and you're running off of thestores of fat instead of running off of

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glucose and carbs and all of that. I don't know if the end of
gluecose was the right word. Butyou're not running, you're not fueling your
body with carbs, and your body'snot getting energy from carbs, so it's
breaking down to have fat into ketones, and that's what's running your body.
I don't think that's good for youoverall. I think that we do need
all of the macro nutrients in abalance. I really do. I stand

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very far. I don't think weshould be doing no fat. I don't
think we should be doing no carb. Obviously, no one's tried to come
out with a no protein diet yetgive them a minute. But yes,
it works, but it's not Idon't. I don't think that. I
think that's another pendulum swing where we'vegone too far. And I don't think
that it's really hard to keep weightoff after that. It really messes with

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your metabolism. Your brain really doesneed carbs, your muscles need carbs like
you need all of the things.And I was a two thousands fad dieter,
like I've done all of them.I've done ketosis, ketosis chit a
keto, and you lose weight andyou feel good for a little while,

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you really do once you get overthat whole, like your body going into
shock from not having any sugar atall. You feel good for a minute,
but then you stop feeling as goodbecause you're not getting the micro nutrients
that you need and you've cut outan entire macronutrient from your diet that your
body can adapt to, but youneed it. That's my soaba right on.
I don't Okay, here's the deal. I don't know what the fuck

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I eat a lot of I atea lot of rice, and it's usually
wrapped up in that when Cyrian breadIs that what you called it? Or
I'm eating like I like the nonbreaded the Chinese place I go to.
I'm pretty sure they use fresh veggiesbecause I now know the difference between veggies
that come in a bag and veggiesthat are fresh, and like because so

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many places use fucking bagged veggies.But yeah, I mean it's like,
I don't know, Like, Idon't know what the fuck you call that.
I don't eat a lot of bread. I don't eat fries. I
used to eat this shit all thetime. I used to drink beer all
the time. I mean, Idrink pop, but I don't drink as
much pop as I used to,And I mean I still drink a lot.

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It's compared to like someone like Chrisor you. But yeah, I
mean I believe me. I goto work and I'm like, oh,
oh, okay, I don't feelall that bad now, Like a twenty
ounce to a fucking ten hour day. I don't think that's bad. I
mean, it's all relative. Itain't good. It's like, you know,
it's your thing, and that's fine. I don't know that. I
mean, listen, it probably hasabout the same amount of sugar in it

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as Starbucks does. And no one'sover here chewing anyone out for drinking a
Starbucks. Well that's the other thing. Like, I don't drink any of
that other shit. It's water,uh like the whatever, the hydration powder,
ship and water or pop. That'swhat I drink. Milk, milk

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if I want if I'm eating somethingand I'm like, boy, milk would
go good with this, or ifI got really bad heartburn, I'm like,
fuck it. Yeah, It's betterthan fucking chewing on that chalk.
That we call Tom's fuck that nastiness. I mean what you described just to
me protein some you know their chicken, that's what you said. I'm eating

(01:05:47):
once a day, but I'm eatinguntil I'm full, and I might like
snack and peck through the day.So I don't know. Is that called
a girl dinner? Now? AmI having girl dinner? Only if you
have it for dinner? I don'tknow. I have it whenever I feel
like fucking eating. Very rare,very rare. Do I wake up hungry,

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eat, and then eat later inthe day. Usually I wake up
I'm not hungry, and then halfwaythrough the day I get hungry. I
eat, and then I just pickit whatever I have, or I you
know, a handful of this,a handful of that, and I'm done.
I don't know it works for me. I've lost a lot of weight
doing that, and I've went fromI swear to god. A year and
a half ago, I couldn't bendover and touch the floor, let alone

(01:06:32):
do anything. Pick up fifty poundsand walk across the room and do anything
with it. Now I can dothat, right, So there you go.
I don't give a I don't givea fuck about the labor is the
baby pretty that's what the fuck.I give a fuck about the results.
You know what I'm saying. Whatyou eat sound is very well rounded to
me. Rich can look down nowand be like, hey, buddy,

(01:06:54):
how you been that motherfucker? That'syou can go back to. You got
no, because trouble has always camewith him, So just no. Yeah,
I had some peace go away.Yes, I became accustomed to peace.

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I want it back. I wantit back so badly. Oh okay,
anyways, edit this out any ways, all right, moving on.
So now that's the whole. Thatwas just my little on the fly conspiracy
theory because it doesn't make sense.It's obvious obviously no one is healthy at

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any size, and no one islooking. I don't know if I'm probably
gonna age myself a little bit here, but I don't know if either one
of y'all know who Eugenia Cooney is. No idea she was a George Cooney's
wife. No, okay, itwas just that was that was a last
name shot in the dark. NoEugenia Cooney. Okay, she is famous

(01:08:06):
online. If you look her up, you will see a skeleton. She
is a skeleton of a human.She has the most severe anorexia that I
think we've ever witnessed on a livinghuman. And no one is saying that
she's healthy. There's not a persona live saying she's healthy. And I

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have combed her comment sections when I'mbored seeing if there's anyone fighting healthy at
any size there because no, you'renot, and you can't. And people
are real quick to say that abouther. They're real quick to say she's
not healthy because she's not healthy.She might weigh seventy five pounds, okay,
but see that goes back to theidea of if you're that skinny,

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but that's the that's what society's idealis, So that's evil and bad.
No, you gotta this is notShe is not society's ideal. Oh no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no no
no. I know that I understandthat. That's how these people are trying
to fucking frame this that see,this is bad. It's better for her

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to be fat than this, becausethat is that is how we fucking rationalize
and justify things these days. Ourbrand of evil and bullshit and depravity is
not as bad as their brand ofevil bullshit in depravity so we're the better
choice. No, it's still evilbullshit into pravity. I don't want note
to do with it. But whatever, do you see my point? Do

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you see what I'm do you seewhat I'm getting at? I do.
Yes, that's what I meant.That's what I meant, And that's how
the people who are like healthy atany size, that's how they're going to
attack that person. Now here's thedeal. Any rational person will see someone
in the extreme fucking grips of anorexiaand go, oh, that's not healthy.
So thereby default, it's like antifa, we're anti fascist. If you

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don't like us, you're pro fascist. No, anti fascist is a default.
Remember how you say, Remember howwe're told we can't walk around being
proud to be straight because being straightis the default. Being fascist, being
anti fascist is the default. It'sso the default that we won a war
killing fascist in the middle of thefucking twentieth century. There you go.

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We are world fucking fascist killing champions. It's kind of what we do,
right. Sorry I went off onthe diet ahead. I'm also well,
I'm sending pictures of her just becauseit blows my mind. So now,
because I do know there are becauseI've seen them. There are corners of

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the internet that will fucking praise thepeople that oh, yeah, yeah,
no, there's nothing healthy about thisperson. No, yeah, I've seen
her before. I didn't know whoshe was, but I've seen well,
I'm pretty sure that was her.I've seen malnutrition, yes, absolutely,

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yes. But to say healthy atany size is to say she could be
healthy despite her size, And itgoes the opposite way. You can't say
someone who is severely overweight can behealthy because they can't be. They can
get healthy again, maybe hopefully,probably, but that doesn't mean that they

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are healthy in their current state.And I'm just to say that, and
for this idea to keep being pushedand now for there to be doctors who
back this and support this and askquestions like can we weigh you? And
weighing is becoming taboo in a freakingdoctor's office. There has to be something

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else behind it, and that iswhat I think my newe developing theory is
on what is behind it is justthat our food in the United States is
shit. And if you want toeat better, if you not even good,
but just if you want to eatbetter, it costs three times as
much. None of the stuff isyou know, it's just it's out of

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reach for a lot of it becomesa game of you better be willing to
try a lot of different places andbe disappointed a lot until you find places
that you feel that, Okay,I can trust them, and I'm getting
quality ingredients and a quality product forthe price I'm paying. I mean,

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and I get I feel that I'mkind of lucky that like in the area
we're at, we're really densely populated, and there's a lot of places around
here. There's a lot of placesaround here that have been here for a
while, a while, meaning Iwould say, like twenty years or more,
so they have reputations and people willbe like, oh, even if
I don't eat those type places,check this place out. This is the

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reputation. But you start getting intomore like recently developed communities suburbs, you
don't have that. You know whatI'm saying, it's lost. You're kind
of you kind of default to well, whatever is easiest, especially once you
add kids in a fucking busy asslife too. Well, Let's be honest,
if you're from around where we are, rich, if you live in
the city of Detroit. Yeah,I mean you could eat probably like decently

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in the city of Detroit, butI don't know if you could do it
for cheaply. You have to goto Whole Foods, the familiar they have.
You'd have to find the restaurants thatserved with like the fresh with fresh
ingredients and not frozen shit. That'sbasically the same stuff they serve it people

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in prison. Yeah, I've workedat places that it's the exact it's I'm
taught. I'm not saying the exactsame brand. I'm saying it's the exact
same product. The box next tothe one we received and sold to you
for what we sold it to youfor, could have went to a prison,
was served to a prisoner. You'reeating what we're serving prisoners, and
prisoners eat notoriously bad food. You'repaying for the privilege. Just to let

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you know, hey, this isone place I worked at not naming it
because we don't need to fucking hasslenow it's ah look yeah, but just
the other part of it is too. This is two parts. You know.
Yes, there's a lot of junkmade widely available to us, but

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now tell on us, look atwhat you're eating. Turn it over.
That's what I said. It becomesa game of you have to fucking police
yourself. And here's the deal.This is I think where you, Chris,
get pissed and be like, wellthat I didn't know or no one
told me yet pisses you off.Here's the deal. You're not even seeing

(01:14:45):
it. How these people are seeingit. They've been told the government's gonna
fucking take care of everything, andnow they're finding out the government doesn't take
care of shit, so they don'teven it doesn't even occur to them to
look up and fucking form it.Excuse me, I know this is a
horrible thing to say in today's climate, but do their own research, because
it's not why we've been told thegovernment. The government has laid it all

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out. We have our daily recommendedallowance from the FDA, who's been approved
by the Better Business Bureau. Okay, fact by blah blah blah blah blah.
So, Chris, would you saycanola oil is healthy or unhealthy?
Uh? It is wildly unhealthy foryou. But if you google that,
the first thing that comes up iscanola oil is rich and good fats and

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can help reduce the risk of heartdisease when used instead of saturated fats all
over everywhere, canola oil is healthy. So you have to figure out like
doing your own research now is sodifficult, and educating yourself is so difficult
because I know that canola oil isawful for you. I know it inflames

(01:15:55):
your body, but I'm not gonnafind that by a Google search. And
how much or not what singular Googlesearch? And how much deep diving can
you do for all seventy eight ingredientson the back of your Here's my thing.
We need to start teaching people thereality of the world that we exist
in, not the one that theywish we exist in, which is how

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people are just seeing the world.It's really dangerous because the reality is,
why would you ever expect to goto Google, who takes advertising money from
companies who produce these things, andexpect that Google is going to go thank
you for your advertising dollars. Nowwe're going to fucking announce that basically this

(01:16:36):
is poison. Thank you for advertising, Jess. I understand all your points,
and I'm with you on most ofthem, But at the same time,
like the feeling I keep coming tothis conversation is I feel like we're
a bunch of horses standing at awatering hole dying of thirst, going no
one told us to drink yes,because we've been fucking okay when we say

(01:17:00):
we, I don't know. Idon't know. I don't feel our generation
gen X was fucking completely lied to. Maybe the tail end, maybe the
shit got really bad after I graduated. I don't fucking know, but I
don't feel like it was like whatit is for for millennials and zoomers.
Oh my god. I want totalk to zoomers and it's just like and
they have no hope. It's becausewell, wait a minute, haven't you

(01:17:20):
been told the government's going to helpyou? And they're like, that's why.
I'm like, okay, they're morelike us US gen xers than they
are millennials, because that was ourresponse when they're like, government will help
you, that's funny. Yeah,So I mean that's what that's the reality

(01:17:41):
of the situation. You get pissedoff because it fucking offends your fucking core
values or something, and it's likeI get that too, But we need
to teach people the reality and situations. Stop expecting corporations and governments to have
your best interest in heart, Agovernment's only interest is of the interests of
the people that are behind the scenespulling the fucking strings. And people behind

(01:18:05):
the scenes pulling the strings. Onlyinterest is money and power, and you
don't factor into any of those things. But again, where do you find
your information? Then? I don'tknow, Dig deeper, go pass page
one, go past page one,okay, but I can find conflicting information

(01:18:26):
on everything. And just because Ifind something that says, no, it's
bad for you, Aha, whywould I believe that? Sort? See
what I'm hearing, is it,Chris, you should research shit till you
get the answer you want. Youcall it good? How Catholic upbringing of
you? And Jess what I'm hearingis you're fucking keeping going. No,
I don't trust anything tells me whatI want to hear. I want to
hear what the other side's saying.I just don't trust anything. I do

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know, and I've I've read studiesand I've read I mean, I've I
deep dive. But I get Idon't like sleeping apparently, and I'm like,
no, I wonder what what canolaoil is doing to my body?
And there I go for the nightand I've read studies about what it does
and inflammation and all of that,and I look around and I see it.

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There is a direct correlation between howmuch seed oil you eat and how
much you sunburn. And I'm it'snot even a joke. I have tested
this. I have tested this theory. It's wild. But people aren't going
to research and deep dive the twelfthingredient on their packet of fucking frozen veggies

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in a light sauce. People aren'tlooking at that. Who on earth has
the time for that? And Iwill tell you I have time. I'm
busy, but I am busy ina way that I have a lot of
time of being able to just kindof sit around and look at you,
knowing what you put in your body. So with me, with me myself

(01:20:00):
personally, I don't know that Iwould be comfortable until I could source and
grow all of my own food,quite frankly, because I don't trust anything
at this point. And that's whydid you ever smoke? Yes? I
did? There you go, Oh, I not listen, I know.
See. Why is it forgotten thatin the fifties and into the sixties that

(01:20:23):
they were literally running ads that weresaying like nine out of ten doctors say
that Chesterfield is the better cigarette smoke. No, but it helps you with
your helps produce lung fucking activity.Yeah, it's called flemgems. Motherfuckery.
We all three of us were toldby the time we were old enough to
start wanting to smoke, but weknew smoking was bad for you. We

(01:20:47):
all did it. Yeah, yep, there's proof it's bad. We know
it's bad. It will make yousick. You do it for a long
time, you're gonna shorten your lifespan. We went pass me lighter, all
three of us. Yeah, no, you're absolutely correct. But now I
care. I don't and I don'tsmoke anymore, and I don't vape anymore.

(01:21:11):
And I I mean, I Ireally do. I have time.
I have time to research this,I have time to meal plan. I
have a stupid food budget, LikeI really do, I have time to
cook. I think that is peoplewho even give a fuck, we'll give
a fuck, and people who won'twon't and the doctor will got it.

(01:21:31):
You gotta understand that there are peoplewho give a fuck for different reasons than
you give a fuck, And maybeyou are never gonna give a fuck.
For your reasons, and you justhave to like, dude, like I'm
hearing this, Like, well,I quit smoking for health, I quit
smoking for this, I quit smokingbecause it costs this. You know why
I quit smoking, And especially whyI was like Vapin's gotta go to because

(01:21:53):
I saw the bullshit tactics they werepulling, especially with the anti vapor shit,
and I saw how it was abunch of fucking big tobacco companies who
were seeing the dwindling profits and fuckingleaf tobacco and they were just funding all
this anti vaping propaganda and they justbasically ran all these fucking companies where I
knew the people. I knew thepeople these were. These were brick and

(01:22:15):
mortar storefronts that you could visit thatmade their own vape juice and jump through
every fucking hoop to do so,had the fucking Steri labs and all that
good happy horseshit that these major fuckingtobacco companies don't have even now, and
they ran them out of business.And it was all because well, we're
gonna make sure we're gonna get flavoredvapes off the market. We're gonna get

(01:22:38):
this off the market. We're gonnaget this. What happens when you walk
in five years later to a fuckingseven to eleven, ain't nothing but flavored
vapes, and they're all corporate flavoredvapes. It was all bullshit to get
the competition out because they couldn't standit was cheaper, better quality product and

(01:23:00):
also, outside of an initial fuckingcost to get into doing your own coils
and everything, over the long run, wildly cheaper than buying disposable Yeah,
so fuck that. Why would Ikeep giving money to those companies under the
guise of, well, you're notsmoking leaf tobacco anymore, you're just sucking
out of this fucking plastic dick instead. Now, no, fuck you,

(01:23:20):
man, fucking piss on my leg, tell me it's raining. And I
mean, on top of that,I knew motherfuckers has put out of business
companies that no longer exist, peoplewho do not put food on the table
via the means that they were doingit. And it wasn't because the market
put them out of business. Itwasn't because a better product came along that
was made for cheaper. It wasbecause foul fucking tactics by corporate Goddamn America

(01:23:43):
who had bought and paid for thefucking politicians that allowed him to do it.
But okay, how does this connectto like, just look research what
you're putting in your body? BecauseI researched it, and that's the reason
I fucking quit. That's how Ifound the fucking reason to quit. Yeah,
when I'm saying the whole preface,I prefaced all what I said with
not everybody's gonna have the same reasonsyou're gonna have. You want everybody to

(01:24:05):
have the reasons to quit that youhave and that you want other people to
have. It's not fucking reality,man. You want people to quit because
it's bad for him. I thinkquick, it's bad for me because I
didn't give a fuck, dude.It's my whole point and all this is,
at what point is it on you? At what point do you point
the finger you're the whole time it'sbeen on you, Because that's the way

(01:24:28):
it is. That's why the government'snot gonna save you. Well, the
government won't let people sell won't leta company sell me something that will kill
me? Are you stupid? Ofcourse the government will. But where my
whole point and my whole thing onall of this is where do you get
information that you can trust? Becauseyou can't trust doctors with it, you
can't trust the internet with it.Where do you How do you find a

(01:24:51):
source that will tell you what isokay and what is it? You have
to make sure it's a reputable source. I mean that jessin Field. Now
we're straying into a u problem.Like if you don't believe anything, then
nothing's true. What would you considera reputable source? Well, some well
for starters, something dot org meansit's not for profit. Several sources that

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generally come up with the same youknow, if what if there's smoke,
there's fire. If several independent thingsall come up with the same conclusion,
I'm gonna go all right, logicdictates that's probably the conclusion. I mean,
I can tell you this. Thisis from This is from talking to
my buddy doc and the fields thathe's in, the research fields he's in.

(01:25:34):
The exact same arguments about the validityof sources happen on a much smaller
scale, but the exact same onesdo that happen on a much larger scale.
So the idea that there's settled silentscience and everybody's in lockstep, holding
hands, singing kumbay a behind thescenes is a fucking fallus. People need

(01:25:56):
to realize that on heart dot orgis listed as a healthy factor. Now,
I mean, if you want toreally go down a rabbit hole,
why would the government fucking look theother way on something like this? Well?
Does the government farmers? Yeah?Do politicians get paid off enough to
look the other way? Okay?Also does this grease the wheels of bureaucracy

(01:26:17):
that basically justifies these people's own existenceand jobs? What does what does the
government? What problem does the governmentsolve to where they're no longer needed?
Go ahead, I'll wait, Ohthat's right. No, they're salesmen.
They create problems and then they solvethem. So yeah, it doesn't that
to me. That's not even aconspiracy theory. Why does the government look
the other way? There's there's athere's multiple reasons why the government looks the

(01:26:40):
other way and allows shit like thisto happen, And why ship like this
is allowed to happen and will continueto be allowed to have Well, just
the same question back at you.If nothing's reliable to you, what's reliable?
I have found a handful, probablyabout half a dozen people that I
trust that I follow, and theyI cross reference things between them, and

(01:27:04):
a lot of them are people whostepped away from medicine, like being medical
practitioners of one way or another,because of seeing what medicine was doing to
people, like what just traditional medicaladvice was doing to people. Real quick,
jes, this is not a personalattack. This is like, this

(01:27:25):
is my personality. This is sayingwhat I'm just what is happening. You've
built your own echo chamber, builtwith people that are telling you you want
to hear I mean maybe yeah,but they have done the research that I
don't know how to do. Iguess for me, Like this is my
example. I'll give you like energydrinks. You know what the research I
did at the back of that canand went, I don't know any of

(01:27:45):
this fucking shit is and I've beendrinking it for five years. I'most stop
drinking this shit. That was myresearch. Fair Like everything has ten letters.
Who knows what this is going todo to me when I'm forty.
My only my only retort to that, that would be just make sure you're
getting your coffee beans from some places. You're not getting coffee beans covered in
fucking chemicals and bullshit to the pointwhere it's you might as well be drinking

(01:28:10):
a fucking monster, you know whatI'm saying, which I mean, I
guess is not that hard to do. Basically, don't buy bottom of the
fucking barrel coffee. You're good togo. But I mean I do know
people that drink bottom of the barrelcoffee for a lot of years. And
I mean it's like it's like whenyou go to tobacco Road in certain parts
in in Uh shit, is that'sthe Carolina's right? Wow? I just

(01:28:33):
had a brain fart. Yes,Yeah, tobacco Road that's in the Carolinas,
right, like that stretch where theyhad all the tobacco plantations and farms
and shit, and that's where alot of big tobacco that came out of
that part of the country. Yeah, you go to those parts of the
country, at least you used toback in the nineties, maybe even some
of maybe even two thousands. Ithink I even did this once. You

(01:28:57):
can buy less than like grade Ato or whatever the fuck is, Like
like your regular old Marlborough or Newportsare you can buy a couple of grade
steps down. Is this some roughtobacco. You know what I'm saying,
Like, ugh, So it's likeI don't know where I was going with
that anyways, fucking whatever. Sowe've said here though, and we've argued

(01:29:23):
for about what twenty minutes half anhour about where to even find out what
is healthy versus what isn't healthy.Now, let's say you figured out what
is healthy, right, you knowwhat's healthy, and please contact me,
reach out to Chris. I wouldlike to know. But you have it
all figured out and you go tobuy it now for your family, and

(01:29:45):
it's so much more expensive than justnormal ass groceries that fed your family.
So that also you have people whodon't know how to get the knowledge.
And then if you can get theknowledge, then you have the financial aspect
of it, and then you alsohave the time aspect of it of preparing
every bit of your own food becauseyou're not going to get food that is

(01:30:06):
affordable and healthy in a convenient way. And see, that's what I was
saying. This is where it's onyou, which is I said at the
beginning of this entire exchange. That'swhen it becomes on you to do your
own footwork and to put yourself ina position where you're going to get disappointed
and you just have to bite thebullet and go. Am I willing to

(01:30:28):
do all this bullshit to eat homecooked meals that I cook for myself?
Or do I put it in thelegwork in the time, and I bite
the bullet and I pay the littlebit extra and I find good quality places
that I can go to that Itrust the ingredients are using. And that's
the route I go. You seewhat I'm saying. Either way, it
requires. Either way requires something morethan just let me fucking go to McDonald's

(01:30:49):
because it's right there. Yes,But but I mean take a family of
four and have them all eating ata place that is you can pay a
little bit more. You know.No, I'm going to jail for child
abuse because, motherfucker, you're gonnaeat what I guess. I'm just saying,
I'm gonna have to go to You'regonna have to put me in jail.

(01:31:11):
I'm gonna beat my kid. Sorry, I'm a Bernie Mac beat them
to the White Meat Show. I'mgonna beat them. I don't give a
fuck. Oh. And the pointI was trying to make earlier is,
like you know, I do haveall this time, and I do have.
I feel like I have a bitof knowledge about it, and I
have some resources, and I stillit's unattainable for me with time, with

(01:31:38):
good time to research and the timeto cook and the time at home to
put into this. It's it's unattainablefor me to feed my family the way
that I want to. Real quick, there's no fucking magic answer. You're
not gonna make the magic meal.It's cannot that's it's not going to take
any fucking more time off of yourlife then it was going to already.

(01:32:00):
You're not going to find a magicmeal is going to extend your life.
And how not it's not how anyof this shit works. I don't Well,
that's not what I'm looking for here. All the point I'm arguing is
the fat at any pat at anysize, shit healthy at any size,
and how it's I feel like it'sbeing pushed for a reason. Okay,

(01:32:23):
because it's unattainable to eat in sucha way that if you just were to
cut out a dessert, you wouldstart dropping some weight. Okay, Well,
let me let me either explain toclarify or revise, depending on how
When I'm done. You can fuckingapply whichever one applies best in your mind
to what I'm to what I said, I guess what I'm saying is is
that I feel like everybody picks theirown poison and then fucking acts like they're

(01:32:46):
doing like somehow they're better than somebodyelse because well, I don't drink I
don't drink Monster, but is Sallythe McDonald's, But Treya, I don't
drink Monster. I've actually had I'veactually heard people a co host on this
fucking show, who would are you? Why drink Monster and not Red Bull?
So that means it's better for me. So you see what I'm saying,

(01:33:08):
Like it's well, I don't smoke, I don't do this, I
don't do this, I don't dothat, but I do this, Okay,
So everybody, just That's what I'msaying. There's no magic fucking formula.
So everybody just calm the fuck down, make your peace with whatever vices
you can't give up, and giveup the ones you can, and do
the best you fucking can because it'sall we can do, because it's all

(01:33:30):
that we're set up to do inthis fucking situation. There's gonna be no
magic solution where you press a buttonand boom, everything falls into place,
everything aligns, and everything becomes easyand affordable. If that was true,
communism would work. That's never theend result. That's not attainable with humans
in human nature, I mean,just really can get into like, why

(01:33:53):
why is it so hard to finda McDonald's in the fucking bougie part of
town? And why is it sohard? It's not an accident. Why
it's so hard to find a fuckingWhole Foods where the working class folks live.
Yeah, that's that's a little differentconversation, but it's part of the
conversation. All the pieces matter.The problem is our attention spans will not
allow us to sit here and havethat all encompassing of a conversation, casting

(01:34:16):
that wide of a net. AndI am including myself in that. I
can hear. I can hear dreamWeaver in your guys' heads every fucking week.
Okay, Like, do you thinkI'm gonna get into the minutia of
this ship. I would start fuckingdream Weaver and out in the middle of
the fucking ship I have because sometimesyou get so lost chasing your own tail,
trying to make sense of something thatis just nonsensical. This podcast,

(01:34:45):
it's our bread and butter. Oh, we're on brand, we'reb our own
ass bill Ward carpet up here.For the record, I try to avoid
the carbs. It doesn't happen becauseI like things with gravy, but sugar,
I definitely try to actively not consume. But again, now I feel
like, yeah, like I say, here's here's my trade off. I

(01:35:09):
feel like, because I drink pop, I don't eat candy blah blah blah
blah blah. And if I wantsomething sweet, what do I do?
I go get like a pastry thathas like the filling but no, uh
are you seen or anything on it, and it's like a like a fruit
filling or something. And I'm like, Okay, it's sweet, but it's
kind of free. You see whatI'm saying. The rationalizations, This is

(01:35:30):
what we do. And we're sittinghere, we're acting like one of us
has a better fucking solution to thisproblem than the other when we're all shoving
shit coming from the same fucking popbasically toxic, fucking group of fucking ingredients.
So you do the best with whatyou can. You make your peace
with what you can, and youeliminate as much harmful shit as you can.

(01:35:54):
It's all you can fucking do,because ultimately we're all racing to a
fucking red light. That's it.Yeah, and I might too, if
you're telling you I actively avoid sugarand every Sunday I'm getting drunk watching football.
I mean, dude, I'll behonest with you. I can't believe
the amount of damage alcohol did.I mean, granted I was drinking it

(01:36:14):
in an ungodly amount, I mean, I don't think an average person would
would fucking drink be able to drinkfor that long period of time. And
it's not a brag, it's justit's fucking stupid looking back on it.
But it's like, holy shit,man, all that weight I put on.
But then it's like I sit backand I go, how many fucking
empty calories were you hammering down?Oh? Yeah? And then and then

(01:36:38):
eating a fucking meal of I'm hungoveror I'm drunking, and I'm gonna go
pass out either way. Not good. So yeah, it made sense why
I put on all that weight.When I stopped drinking, and when I
stopped eating like that, wow,the weight started coming off shocking, But
that's what I I know, aSHOT's like one hundred calories cours like like

(01:36:58):
one hundred and twenty calories. ButI mean, here's the thing. I
never gave a fuck about that becauseI just wanted to get drunk. When
I stopped getting drunk, it wasn'tbecause I I wanted to get healthy.
I wanted to lose weight. Iwas like hoping that would happen. I
wasn't counting on it happening. That'sfor goddamn. Sure. I just was
tired of feeling like shit from drinking, dude, But if the end result

(01:37:20):
is a positive, a net positivefor me, you know what I'm saying,
Like, did I get it?My last few mornings after I have
I'm like, why do I keepdoing this? I don't have to do
this. I'm sorry, man,it doesn't get any better, it really
does, even with my hangover managementsystem. It's just like, why,
Like I put myself in a situation. This is this is an avoidable situation.

(01:37:44):
I've really contemplated it the last fewtimes, like maybe I'll quit drinking
next to you. But I meanthat's if I was gonna sit, If
I was gonna sit and get onmy high horse and take fucking like shots
at people about something. It wouldbe drinking. But I realized that is
something that I had a problem with. I can't attribute my relationship with alcohol.
Holy shit, I'm going full Momeneywith my fucking wording here and phrasing

(01:38:09):
my relationship with alcohol. I can'tattribute that to everybody else and act like
that's the same relationship they're gonna have. Because I have buddies who hardly ever
drink and are pushing five hundred pounds, and I'm like, bro, how
how much are you eating and howmuch are you not moving? Yeah?
That's that is. That's lots ofhigh calorie food and not a lot of

(01:38:30):
physical activity. And I'm not laughingat their situation because here's the thing.
My struggle was with alcohol, theirstruggles with food end result still the same.
I gave in to my fucking tomy demons, for lack of a
better fucking term, ended up wildlyfucking unhealthy and out of control with my
weight. They do same result.I, as a drunk, have a

(01:38:54):
lot more empathy for them than Ihave for other drunks or myself. Why
you need food, you don't needboots. Easy for me to play the
all or nothing game. They haveto walk a tight rope. I never
will have to walk with that particulardemon. So yeah, yeah, I
got empathy for people who struggle withtheir weight, and it's not due to
to alcohol. It's usually really it'sreally easy to spot them because you see

(01:39:14):
fat drunks, and then when theyget sober, they get they get skinny
real quick, well relatively quick.You're like, oh, oh, you
weren't a pig, you were justa fucking drunk. Yeah, okay,
cool, got it. So thereyou go, dude, a little bit
of insight into my bong and vaultedhop coated mine. Thank you for visiting

(01:39:35):
Christopher Media Dott. Thank you forvisiting Christopher media dot net. We had
something fun do we? Oh goodie, let's see. But it's funny what

(01:39:59):
we have? The bitch that's Chipotle'That's what I was saying. Yes,
yes, that is the one.Yes, there is a woman. I
don't know what state this was itin Massachusetts? Why do not? I
can't, I don't. I'm pullingit out. I will let you know.
She threw a bowl. Just willread this story. But the bowl

(01:40:20):
at points are her. She gotthe wrong bowl at Chipotle, got pissed
and threw it at the worker,got brought up on assault charges in part
of her sentence to get reduced jailtime, and she has to now work
two weeks at a fast food restaurant. No sixty days, isn't it here?
Yeah? See Rosemary Hayne, athirty nine year old woman from Ohio,

(01:40:45):
just received perhaps the lightest sentencing possibleafter assaulting a Chipotle employee on November
twenty eighth. Judge Timothy Gillian ofblah blah blah blah blah blah blah not
important ruled on this case, notinghow obscene a crime, How obscene a
crime it was. You didn't getyour burrito bul the way you liked it,

(01:41:06):
and this is how you respond.This is not real Housewives of Parma.
This behavior is not acceptable. OhCleveland, so the Parma that's and
some reason I know this Cleveland suburb. Sorry, okay uh. The entire
real life episode was filmed by abystander who posted the video to Reddit,

(01:41:27):
which meant that Judge Gillian and therest of us could see the situation was
just as messy as it sounds.In this video, Haynes slams down her
order on the counter while shouting atRussell for nearly a full minute, who
stands at the opposite end of thecounter and tries to reason with Hayne.
Eventually, Hayne gets so worked upthat she tosses the fully loaded bull at
Russell's face as the rest of theroom of diner's gasp and later tries to

(01:41:53):
intervene so Hayne can't leave unpunished.Hain and her fellow diner quickly rushed out
of the restaurant after the incident.However, the speedy Chipotle patrons captured Haynes's
license plate number and contacted the localpolice, who arrested Haine at her home
on September fifth for her misdeeds.Hayne was initially ordered to pay a fine

(01:42:15):
and serve one hundred and eighty daysin jail, with ninety days suspended.
Due to the unique nature of hercrime, Judge Gilligan offered her an alternative
option to reduce her jail time.If Hayne agreed to and followed through with
working twenty hours per week at afast food restaurant for two months, she
could reduce her time behind bars forsixty days, Hayne reportedly apologized to the

(01:42:38):
court and to Russell, accepted thecounter offer and will soon be standing behind
a fast food counter. Yes,and I think one week she should have
to go work in the hood.In another week she should have to go
work in the rich neighborhood, becausethose rich tell me both those customer bases

(01:42:59):
are terrible and neither of them likehuman beings. If people who have no
money and people who have all themoney treats food service people like fucking animals,
Now, working class, working classis not white trash, black trash,
you know what I'm saying. Iwould even argue that poor isn't the
same as white trash and black trash, like the hoods that I'm talking about.

(01:43:21):
If you're from Metro Detroit, thinkof from the West Side, like
shack Town and Inkster butted up nextto each other, and you get to
work at a at a KFC slashTaco Bell on the border of those two
cities, that clientele or East Point, that that clientele. Yeah, you're

(01:43:43):
not getting sympathy for anybody because ofyour fucking skin color. No matter who's
behind the counter, there's gonna besomeone who hates you, and it's gonna
be a customer and they're gonna bepissed off. You know what I'm saying.
It's just and yeah, people quickto anger, slow to understand,
almost deaf when it comes to listening. They will not hear you no matter
how many times you say things.And I mean when you go to the

(01:44:04):
rich neighborhoods, it's entitlement. It'sentitlement. But it's also a little bit
different as far as like, well, it's a lot different. The type
of rude you get is not usuallythe same. And yes, it is
very much like oh oh, Ihave to deal with you like almost like

(01:44:26):
like or or are dealing with thecommoners again? Yes, yes, yes,
yes, putting on errors as theywould say back in the day,
Sadditi committee type shit you know,boogie, Yes, that's exactly like.
These are the terms in my neighborhoodgrowing up that we usually describe this shit.
And I feel either one of thesecustomer bases would have thrown this bull

(01:44:46):
at this lady. Absolutely yes,have you ever had food thrown at you?
Because we've all worked food service tovarious extents, not like at me,
but like in my direction, likethis lady like had the bowl like
straight up thrown at her. Yeah, I've never been hit with food,
but it's hit the wall like missme by like less than a foot more

(01:45:10):
than six inches, so like closeenough where I was like, ooh,
you know what I'm saying, LikeI almost about lost my job. I
went to jail. Holy shit,someone someone was a better shot. There
would have been an issue. Right, I've either been in jail or at
the hospital, one of the two. Because I can't let that go.
Man. Sorry, it's just I'mnot dot like that. Just restaurant,

(01:45:32):
especially fast food customers are just adifferent animal, like it is. I
got out and I don't miss it. And I hope this lady's put through
the ringer. I hope she getsto experience every shitty thing in those two
weeks. Because I make sure thatI treat even the people who treat me

(01:45:57):
shitty. I still make sure I'malways smiling at those people. I say
please and thank you. I treatit because I know, like I'm going
to be like not many people treatit's like whatever, You're just some asshole
pushing buttons, making my burger ormaking my pizza or whatever. That's like
the attitude of most people, andfor some reason, like people who are

(01:46:19):
nice in all other segments of society, when they go in to a restaurant,
they just turn into fucking assholes.I find people are shocked on either
side of the counter with just becauseI'm not a naturally smiley person and if
I force a smile, it kindof looks psychotic, so it's worse for

(01:46:39):
everybody involved. But some people don'twant to hear that. So I'm just
like, okay, all right.It goes to Patrick Baton, smile you
wanted it, you know what I'msaying. I don't know how else I
could have told you, but hey, you like he was listen the news.
But I mean like, I'm hey, how you doing? Like I'm

(01:47:00):
usually very good at reading my customerand what level of formality I need to
use, how casual I can beor not be? You know what I'm
saying, Like I can read people, and people get shocked by just very
basic Hey, how you doing today? Are you picking up or you placing
an order or you know whatever,however you know whatever it is, Oh

(01:47:24):
yeah, yeah, that'll be thisand this and this? Would I be
cash or credit? Okay? Well, hold on one second, they said,
okay, you're good to go.All right, here's your receipt and
yep, hey, here's your food. You have a good day, and
they're like, oh, oh,oh, you too. I like,
it can't be that remote of thefucking experience for people to hear have a
good day anymore, dude. Butwe are starting to pay attention, and

(01:47:45):
yes, the fuck it is.I'm almost ten years removed from going into
a gas station on Long Island usingplease and thank you and the guy behind
the counter goes who says, thankyou. What I asked for something,
you gave it to me and Isaid thank you. It's pretty general politeness.
Like, here's the really strange part. When you talk to people who

(01:48:05):
have either traveled or people from othercountries, and apparently certain European countries,
the American default, hi, howare you today? That is not expected
nor ever been expected. Like youwalk in and they are literally there just
to serve you. That's it.They're not there to tell you to have

(01:48:27):
a great day and make you feelgreat about yourself. It's that, sadly
to me, that is the baseline. That's to be the baseline expectation when
you walk into a place of business. I understand this is a transactional relationship.
I'm giving you money for a productor service doesn't mean we have to
love each other. I don't haveto sit around holding fucking hands and taking

(01:48:50):
long walks on the beach with you. But for some reason, we feel
that way these days. I tellyou, that's my favorite byproduct of the
pandemic is how food delivery is now, Like just drop my fucking food out,
like I already tipped your fucking whitee No, just you got the
address on the porch, I'll fuckingcome get it, Like, I don't

(01:49:11):
know, I don't know. Tome, that's just people who were like
you know, you like that.I like that both of us don't treat
people in the service industry like shit. The wrong people take advantage of that.
In my experience, you know whatI'm saying, non tippers like chronic
non tippers. Yeah, no contactdelivery all day long. Why because they

(01:49:31):
don't have to look in the eye. I get that. But like I
said, people like us, we'regood customers. We understand the give and
take of the transactual relationship that we'reinvolved in. Being a customer. Yeah,
we're so fucking sick of this shit, we opt out, leaving who
shitty customers? There you go,that's your problem. So, and I

(01:49:54):
mean I wish they had been like, Okay, you gotta work sixty days,
and that's not sixty days from yourhigher date. That's sixty motherfucking shifts
of four hours or more. Okay, you want to do it, you
want to do doubles. If fourhours is the standard shift, there no
one except for management, works morethan four hours. You want to work

(01:50:14):
an eight hour shift, We'll countthat as two shifts. We'll make that.
We'll make that, you know,set aside for you. However,
at any point you quit or orfired, you spend the rest of them
in county jail. I don't knowthat she wouldn't just pig being fired after
a week or two. I'm justsaying, county jail ain't like fucking going
the state or even federal county jail, depending on where you're at, can
be a nasty fucking experience. Andfor a woman, it's not necessarily the

(01:50:40):
treatment as much as it's not exactlythe healthiest, most sanitary environment you're going
to find yourself in. You knowwhat I'm saying, like, I'm just
saying, if you're of a certainage and you're female, you might need
products. If you're doing sixty daysat least twice, that aren't going to
be easy to get, you knowwhat I'm saying, That's what I'm getting

(01:51:04):
that there. I'd rather just putup with customers. Man. I was
like, man trying to find tamponsor pads in county versus you want fries
with that? You want fries withthat? Yeah, I'll make sure they're
fresh for you, motherfucker. What'dyou say? Nothing? Yeah, coming
right out. We got a bluegovernor. Now they probably get a fucking

(01:51:26):
box of Tampa's pearls soon as youwalk in. It's only after transmember.
Yeah, I'm telling you Big Blacksrolled over in his grave Like that was
my idea, but that's not howI applied it, telling you irritating like
I want Rob I don't really carefor Rob deer Dick, but I want

(01:51:50):
him on behalf of Big Black tosue these people for using term manpions anyways,
all right, so yeah, we'reto the why we're talking, man
pins, I think it's time togo. Let's go to uh at gen
exhausted pod on social media. Tofind us, go to christophermedia dot net
where there's a PayPal button if youwant to help us out a little bit

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I'll catch you next week and fastout the gas out throughout the bank.

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that bab that they is that somecomic you love thing happening in the baby.

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By that time, fast downe thenexte it's time low and sid to
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off the drive. See my littlenumboar. You know we never get ball
riding around and stolen police office.So we dropped it off and pounding the
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anything about any fucking set up torturingme all you want torture you. That's

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still standing up straight. So wedo these jobs, make a little money.
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