History Will Teach Us Nothing

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Thank you for visiting Christopher Media dotyet. Thank you for visiting Christopher media
dot Net. Welcome to gen Exhausted. I'm Chris, I'm rich. I'm
just we're back. We all Thanksgiving, hope yours is wonderful. We all

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eat a bunch of food like crap, so off families. Uh yeah,
and uh do you guys see inChina there's there's a new virus going around,
and that's funny. I've seen alot about that. It's like it's
some pneumonia or some shit. Yeah, so that's what some places are saying.
Some places are saying that it's likethis new pneumonia that comes without a

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cough, but you have a highfever. But then other places have said
it's just three different viruses that arecausing this pneumonia and that's what's overwhelming hospitals.
So once again, we're not gettinga ton of transparency from China from
the sounds of it, what Iknow, call me a conspiracy theorist.

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I feel like that's happened once before. They have a reputation for honesty and
transparency. Yeah, I saw Isaw that all over TikTok, talking about
like they are they're shutting schools down. I did go and confirm that they're
having They thought it was just akid's disease or illness or virus or whatever,
and then it started being passed tothe adults. And now the World

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Health Organization reached out to China askingfor clarification, and they came back and
said, no, no, it'snothing to worry about China, China.
It's from China. Yeah, call, this is this Chinese virus too.
You need racist see that probably?How come this is only in China?

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Wait, this is right right aroundthe time this shit started in twenty nineteen
too. Yep, late October,early November was very first rumblings I heard
about it. And how come it? I know, by the end of
November beginning it was a thing.It was just not being reported on the
front page and screamed on every fuckingcable news network every half hour. And

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what a coincidence. It's only inChina. Some virus has never happened before.
What are the odds? Well,let's see, why is it?
Okay, we get five minutes before, so one of us it's something that's
going to get us some kind oflike sorry, Rich, go ahead,
Why is it a conspiracy theory tobe like ge a government that is authoritarian,

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is I mean communist? I guessauthoritarian communist kind of that's redundant.
But you know, I whatever,why that they would try to develop biological
or chemical warfare abilities? Why isthat a conspiracy theory? Yeah? People
will look you dead in the faceand go, I know you're racist because

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you're white, and all white peopleare racist, even if they don't know
they're racist. That's not a conspiracytheory. But there's no physical evidence to
any of that. But we haveplenty of physical evidence and fucking paperwork to
go back and be like, oh, look at all the ship China has
tried to pull since what the fiftiescan't do that? You're far right extremist

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transfer. Yeah, I don't knowwhat. Yeah, sure, I think.
I think. I'm not even shockedanymore. I'm not even shocked.
I'm not upset, I'm not amazed. I'm just I'm not amused. I'm
just you know what, you're beginningto boord the hell out of me.
Rich. It's it's I mean,we've we've made the comparison a bunch of
times, right, But it's likereligion, you start asking questions, Nope,

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nope, that person, Get thatperson out of here, exactly,
no questions anytime, anytime. Clarificationor making sure that things are understood as
clearly as possible to as many peopleas possible is frowned upon. You know
from the get go you're dealing withbullshit. We have to engage with.
We have no choice we have inmodern life. We have to engage with

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a certain amount of bullshit. Otherbullshit. We can just be like,
that's bullshit, and I don't fuckingengage with bullshit because you wind up smelling
like you guessed it. Bullshit pleasure, I mean's And we all know what's
coming. We all know. Ifanything comes to this story, it's everything
we just sat here and joked about. But we weren't really joking. We're
just fucking telling the truth of what'sgoing to happen. If this story blows

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up and this becomes something, Ohis this the the WU flu too?
That's racist And you're right, Jess, somehow it will be transphobic. How
we don't know. We'll figure itout when we get there. Because we
always work backward, just like religiouszealots. We start with the end,
and then we figure out how wegot there later. That's the opposite of

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how you build something. That's howyou reverse engineer something. And all we're
reverse engineering. It's stupidity. I'msorry. Wrong. Meeting go ahead,
So it'll be it'll be interesting tosee what comes of this if they try
to. That's four months from now, they're trying to shut us down,
which good luck with that. Ifyou try to do that again, they're

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rich. You talk about a revolution, try to do that shit again.
That's where I think you might finallystart to see people hit in the streets,
because I mean, definitely from threeyears ago, no way. I
almost think at this point it'll justbe like major cities that are that are
that are blue and Democrat controlled,we'll go into whatever the Democrats want.

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If it's a lockdown, they'll gointo a lockdown. If it's if it's
a uh like an isolated situation wherethey just like allow goods and emergency services
if need be to come into there, let's just and people just go along
with it because why not, becausethey give us free shit and we're black

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and we can't vote Republican. Soyeah, okay, I've seen a whole
lot of talk about the economy becauseyou know, we're coming up on an
election year. You know, weare a year out or less, yeah,
less than out now from the election. So the economy's becoming a hot
topic. And I don't know ifyou all saw this, but now there's

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this whole thing where Biden is orthe White House is putting pressure on social
media to paint the economy in abetter light. And it all started apparently
because of a famous TikToker talking abouthow expensive McDonald's was, and like they
went to eat McDonald's and it wassixteen dollars. And so the White House

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has now come out and said thatthings like that need to be removed because
it's misrepresenting, it's misinformation about theeconomy. And that article I sent you
guys today, Yeah, the WhiteHouse. You know what the White House
is doing about price gouging? Hey, stop it, that's what the White
House is doing because they're not gonnawho do you think fucking puts those people

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in there, the people they're tellingto not get off, Like, no,
you're the government, dipshit, youcan make them stop it. But
I feel like Trump right now,but you won't because that's how you make
money, because that paltry little fourhundred and fifty thousand dollars you get a
year ain't shit compared to what lobbyistsare giving you. Yeah, I just

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love that that that that did youread that article? Like that's really hey,
corporations, stop it. That's that'sreally what they're saying. That's that's
that is the strategy from the currentadministration. Yes, no, did.
They're like, you're talking about junkfees and that you mean the things that
have been around for decades and nowall of a sudden you gotta bug up

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your ass about them, right that? And uh, just that there are
now like bigger savings for corporations tohave and that should be shared with the
consumer. The good hard work inAmericans lead to share those savings with them.
Okay, but no so with theeconomy though, like our own wouse
doesn't understand supply and demand. There'sthe reason all those prices went up.

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But sorry, they're they're trying nowto put this whole like fin on social
media so where they can label thingsthat are quote unquote wrong about what people
think about the economy as misinformation andthat be take like the same thing as
with COVID or vaccine misinformation. Andthe issue is is if something were to

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if they were to try to lockus down again, there would be no
denying that the economy would take ahit. We've seen this happen once before,
so like, I don't I feellike they would probably if there was
something going around, they would trynot to lock us down at this point
because they wouldn't want the economy tosuffer the way that it did before during
an election year, you know whatI mean. No, it's like now

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I feel like they might go theopposite side of that, where there something
does start going around and they're like, no, let it ride, get
through this election. Everyone to workright, Well, no, but to
and all the free all the freemoney is what drove everything to wear.
It was laid out in that article. You give everyone a bunch of money,
Everyone started buying stuff. Supply chainscouldn't keep up because everything was fucking
shut down. So then the pricesall went up. Well, and it's

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like, well, well, theinn article that well, in the last
year, the prices of producing thingshave come down and corporations should adjust.
Uh, well, you know howit didn't all instantly go up in a
year. It's not all gonna instantlycome down in a year. Dumb ass.
Again, I just have a Ihave a high school economics education.

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That's like, that's the basics ofit. The supply chains were a year
behind. Now they got to catchup. It's not even it's not even
limited to new manufactured goods. That'sthat's I mean, yeah, that's a
major part of it. Blah blah. Black is. We live in a
disposable society. A lot of peopledon't want to buy used things. But

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even like in the used markets wheresomething is benign is old out of print
role playing game books, you know, twenty cited die you have to be
able to read, not a roleplayinggame. You press a button on a
computer or a fucking console and itdoes something like an actual book. Like,
you know, they're out of print. So sometimes you know, people

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would sell them thirty forty bucks foryou know, they were originally sold for
ten fifteen whatever. Okay, whenCOVID hit and all the stimulus checks and
shit happened, Holy shit, thatmarket went nuts. Books that literally were
getting twenty twenty five bucks two threeweeks before we're now going for three four
hundred dollars. Why because people wouldpay it, and that's not new goods.

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Sure there's an economy that's based aroundthat, because a lot of this
was this was during the beginning ofCOVID, so a lot of this was
Internet fucking sales. So this wasstores with an Internet presence, even though
they're a brick and mortar store,or if they were strictly just an online
store, doing what they do.But it affected everything. It's not just
any one. And as much asI get fucking called a reductionist over the

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years on this fucking podcast, holyshit, do we go fucking complete reductionist
on the economy with this shit?Like this shit affected everything and everybody.
And I think we lost sight ofthat because we've been fucking we've been herded
into a corner and told worry aboutthis shit. Go back and listen to
those original fucking when when COVID hit, Back when we were doing Unregimented,

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we kind of talked about how,how what's the ripple effect going to be
on this ship that's been that's lost. No one talks about that, and
that's three years ago and we're livingthe ripple effect. We're riding the wave
of the ripple effect and no onetalks about it. Why there's trans people
doing something and they're not getting enoughattention, So give it to them,
whether you hate them or love andsure, yeah, no, it's that's

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again I've I feel I said itover the years. Our government is very
like they should be proactive, andthey are reactive. And it don't matter
what color tie is in charge,Like we wait for shit to happen and
then we do stuff. It's like, why don't we I think ahead?
There I go again being rational?Mm hm, how dare you? So

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we got sidetracked with the whole economything. But we were talking about the
virus in China and Jess, youhad sent a story into the chat about
some labs in California. What's goingon there? So, as far as
I saw, it was just alab. The only article that I sent
was about one lab specifically as faras I understood it. And it happened

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or it was discovered in two thousandand two and it was in Reedley,
California, and it was an illegalbio lab and the CDC was called out
to investigate it, and they justwouldn't They just straight up would not investigate
this lab. It was run bysomeone who was part of the Chinese COB

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Chinese Communist Party right, and hewas from Canada, and he had three
hundred like a big fine against himfor shit he had done in Canada.
He was a fugitive in Canada,and he came down to California and opens
up this illegal bio lab. Andwhenever the CDC finally did go to investigate
it, I think in May.It was May or August, and I

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don't know why. I can't rememberwhich one. But whenever they did finally
go investigate it, they investigated itfor two days. They found vials of
tons of liquids that were some weremarked, some were written in code,
some were unmarked. But the thingsthat were marked were things like malaria and

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tuberculosis and covid. And in arefrigerated section they had something labeled ebola.
But the CDC, when they wentin to investigate it, didn't actually test
any of these liquids to see whatthey were, including the written in code.
There are also mice found here thathad they were genetically modified mice that

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had an immune system to function mostsimilarly to a human's immune system. Okay
by the way real quick. Ithink you said two thousand and two.
I think you meant twenty twenty two. Oh I did, yes, thank
you. But yeah, that changesthings a little bit. If it was
two thousand and two, it'd belike, oh, wait a minute,
my bad. I'd be like,yeah, I questioned your the website.

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It was last year that it wasdiscovered. Yes, my apologies, but
yeah, just so, of courseI see this on TikTok and I'm like,
well, you know it's TikTok.Let's go see what we can find
about this. And then I foundsomething from the from yeah, the White

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House. There was a select committeeover it. But yeah, that's so
there was. So let's pretend I'mdense. I guess what are you getting
at with this this lab? Oh, I'm I'm not really getting at much
with it, other than it's quitesuspicious that there is an illegal bio lab

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that's run by It was a People'sRepublic of China citizen, so that was
what I was trying to remember.Not I don't know if there's a difference
between the People's Republic of China andthe Chinese Communist Party. I'm sure there
is, but I don't know whatthe difference is in the PRC. Just
the official name for like the wholecountry is a sure like how we are

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the United States of America. LikeI think that the People's Republic of China
I believe is the name for thewhole shebanga bang okay. But anyway,
it's it was just it was anillegal bio lab that was run by a
People's Republic of China citizen who wasa fugitive. Oh oh what he was
a fugitive for? Sorry I pulledup the article. It was a he's

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a fugitive from Canada with a threehundred and thirty million Canadian dollar judgment against
him for stealing American intellectual property.And this lab is found in California and
reported to the CDC, and theCDC's like, no big deal, don't
worry about it. And this hasall been verified. This is on House
dot gov. Oh so yes,And I mean this isn't interesting in California

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too, This isn't the first andit's a damn surenk will be the last
biolab that has connections to China that'sbeen rated or found in California. Because
her breaking points, I want tosay, run the beginning of August,

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they reported on a Chinese biolab thatwas rated and they found HIV, COVID
and hepatitis, along with lab ratset cetera, et cetera for genetically altered
rats, all that stuff. Sowhen that story popped up, I got
a hold of my buddy doc whoworks in the biochemistry field, and was

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like, Okay, break it downfor me. What's going on here?
And I mean here, hold on. So if I'll give you the the
quote I thought I had that pulledup, Okay, so best this is
a direct quote from him. Now, best and most innocent explanation. They're
a startup cutting every possible corner topush research and get acquired by a larger
company. Worst case, they're upto some very shady shit. My best

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guess, perhaps with some gullibility,is that the company has acquired all sorts
of shit from various other small companiesthat have come and gone over the years,
and they likely have a shoe stringbudget along with a along with a
little ethical good scientific practice concerns,and they're trying to push a product they
can get lots of money for workingfor a startup. I can definitely see

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how all sorts of shit gets acquiredand how things are run on a low
budget, not to that degree,but I'm only speculating, So I mean,
I completely understand where he's coming from, because if you put it into
an industry I've worked in, likethe pizza industry, when a pizza shop
goes under, the vultures come inand fucking get really cheap equipment if they
can't. And I mean that's basicallywhat he's saying is going on with these

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biolabs. And these biolabs are fundedby Chinese whatever the fuck, so they're
probably set up. They're probably runfly by night. And let's not in
negate this fact here. California isn'tsome small little area. California is half
of the is well over half thecoast of the West coast of the country.

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A lot of fucking land in California. There's a lot of fucking barren
land in California set up places likethis, So all the regulations in the
world, ironically coming from California aren'tgonna help them with this ship. If
someone wants to set up in themiddle of nowhere. Oh, I'm sorry,
my conspiracy theorists for this. Ijust go to sleep Tight. Everybody,
Well, this is someone who worksin the field, and he's like,

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yeah, this isn't all that fuckingremote of an experience. See,
I hadn't heard of it on fromanywhere. This is the only one I
heard of. And I do rememberhearing about it in twenty twenty two,
and then it was just like sweptaway and I didn't hear anything else about
it. Well, it just makesme think how many times stories like this
get buried. Yes, I mean, if you go if you go to
the Breaking Points YouTube channel, they'reI mean, whatever however you feel about

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them, they too tend to lookfor stories that are being ignored or buried
by the mainstream press and shine alight on. And this was one of
those stories. And I didn't reallyhear about it, I think besides a
blurb or two and other media outletsbesides Breaking Points when this happened about three
months, because it happened around thebeginning of August September October saw give or

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take three and a half, threefour months whatever. But I mean,
is it terrifying. Absolutely, Andif that's the shit that's happening in California,
what fuck is going out in otherparts of the world where there are
no regulations and no oversight. I'mcurious as to why the people who are
leading the charge or follow the scienceand like, we're good to see here,
I mean really interested in what you'refucking doing. If I was,

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then but we can go down.We hate one party and the other party
isn't as bad, so that makesthem the better party. Or we can
just know we can just get tothe fucking chase. The right money got
in the right pockets or hands,Right, that's what's going on. Why
wouldn't the CDC test what was insideof the ship labeled Ebola? Yeah,
hey, Ebola's in California. Wemight want to make sure. I don't

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like that's that's kind of a bigdeal. I'm not disagreeing with you.
Some of this ship was written incode. I'm not disagreeing with any of
it. I Look, as muchas I love a good conspiracy theory,
there is just plain old fucking governmentaland competence and just payoffs and hey,

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look, you know we got someshadow funders and blah blah blah and people
who have their money entangled in this. So here's enough money to not make
a big deal about it and notreally look too deep into it. And
you know what, we're really sorrythat happened. Will donate a whole lot
to your war chest for re election, and boom, allshit types of shit

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gets fucking rubber stamped and overlooked.And this is how this happens every day.
Conspiracy theorist. Okay, you didn't, reality denier. I don't know
what else to tell you. Thatis exactly how the government works. It's
just called a lobbyist. This personwho is running this lab was a top
official at a People Republic of Chinastate controlled company and had links to military

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civil fusion entities, which I'm justgonna point this out there. You go.
Just remember all you people who werelike, you know, the government's
horrible, and religion's horrible, andin this and this and this and this,
This big business don't give a fuckwho they get in bed with,
who's gonna make it, who's gonnamake them the most money. That's who

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we get in bed with. That'sall they care about. Why are these
why are these horrible people having thismany willing business partners with this type for
this type of shit to back them? Oh, because it turns a profit.
So I got supposed to turn ablind eye to that along with the
governmental incompetence slash corruption. And atwhat point do the people's fucking concerns and
wants and desires get taken into consideration. But I'm stupid and silly for talking

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about that because I'm not sucking thecock or findling the balls of the government
or a corporation. Yeah, Iknow, I'm an asshole. Illegal biol
lab received millions of dollars in unexplainedpayments from the people Republic of China banks
while it was running the biolab Andare those banks cold? Are those banks
beholding to the same fucking authorities thatwould have if they were subpoened that the

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banks in America are? Who wasputting money in that and then fun basically
laundering it by funneling it through thatbank into investments that they otherwise would have
gotten a very good, long,hard look at from the United States government
and their alphabet agencies. I'm sorry? Am I asking quite? Am I
being that guy? Am I askingtoo many questions? I'm sorry? Is

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football on yet? That's what Icare about? And porno and books about
war? That's the song started offright nice hardwood floor floors. Yes,
oh no yet you know what,yeah, you know what those banks will
tell you, Come get us exactlyexactly hahaha, American, Come get us.

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I don't want to do an accentand get us fucking canceled. You
want you want to bank record fiveten minutes America, you can get Yeah,
bushmipt Friday list. That's extra.God damn man, You motherfuckers don't
give nothing for free, do you. Uh? Anyway, Sorry, that's
an old patriso and then Ping wouldfucking laugh at us. All right,
Yeah, I'll get right on those. And it's not racist. His last

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name is Ping, what's his name, z Ping or whatever? China's guy.
Man, it's like when people arelike, man, that accent's racist.
Really You ever been in a fuckingChinese restaurant with an old Chinese woman?
How do they talk? Yeah?Rich, the one right here,
the one on the one on Garfield. You know, have you been in
there? Uh huh yeah, definitely, uh huh. That sounds exactly like

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yeah, exactly, yeah, Sogo in there, record it and then
do your imitation of it and tellme somehow that doing a dead nuts spot
out impersonation of that is racist,and she's racist. Be an old Asian
throng with you? Yeah, howdare you have a racist accent? The
fuck is wrong with you? Youknow, white people and suburban fucking America

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are upset about that. Well,did you ever notice the black comedians never
get in trouble for doing the whiteguy impression because white people don't give a
fuck, right exactly, And halfthe time white people are like, I
know a lot of tight ass whitemotherfuckers. So yeah, well, yes
I do wear khakis, Yes Ido clap on one and three. Yeah,
I do have a hard time findinga down beat, and my wife
does ask me to sit down whenI peek that. On Chappelle shows,

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get what they're doing, the innerdialogue and they have the white guy and
they're at the club. He's like, and one and two and three kind
of Oh god, you have tobe of a certain age or have watched

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some ship that we used to watch. There's no way because because otherwise this
podcast is just like, I don'tknow what the fuck they're talking about.
I have no idea. You don'tknow Chappelle's show, You have no idea
what he's talking about. I dotry to aim it at gen X in
the name, Hey, fuck it. You want to act like you were
there, Millennials and and and zoomers, you gotta learn the fucking you gotta

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learn what was going on for realback then. Don't let them minimize Dave
Chappelle. Dave Chappelle for a twoyear period ran Hollywood Comedy Yes, and
the fucking story. You cannot goanywhere without hearing anyone of any color going,
I'm Rick James, bitch. Theold motherfuckers came to Dave Chappelle to

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get his blessing as if he wasthe new Godfather of the King or something.
And when he fucking said I'm outto Comedy Central, that's when all
that went away. But you gottaremember his show started in two thousand and
three. The beginning of two thousandand three, he had a full two
and a half two years of justdominated he couldn't do. He could have
done whenever he wanted, literally literallylike he could have. He could have

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been like, I'm gonna make aI'm gonna make a biopic about Martin Luther
King starring Joaquin Phoenix. And it'stwo thousand and five, and people have
been like if Dave Chappelle's attached.We think it's going to be genius,
Like, got our support, buddy. Like remember when jaredry Seinfeld dated a
seventeen year old and nobody cared.It was like that Dave Chapelle could have

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did that shit, but Seinfeld's girlhad some big titays. So that's why
everyone was like, yo, damn, come on, man, save some
of the rest of us. Anyways, it was also Jew on jew crime.
I think you got a pass forthat too. Is that something like
in the Jewish community. I justthink it's with a lot of brown people.

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It's a thing like the age difference. Then yeah, see, here's
here's the reason I ask. We'rereally getting lost in the weeds. But
I swear to God, the nextsubject will be something that's that most of
y'all can relate to, apparently,like the Nation of Islam, which we
don't know is the American and BlackAmerican almost exclusively as far as I know,

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wing of Islam here in America,which Malcolm X used to be a
member of before he left and thenwas assassinated. And their take on marriage
was the perfect age for a manis a woman who's half the man's age
plus seven years. That's where thatcame from. I don't know if that's
where it came from, but that'swhere it got popularized as far as I

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understand here in America, and whenthey put it in the Malcolm X movie
they come out in like ninety two. Yeah, that started being something.
I started hearing a lot of brothersin the hood fucking quote. See.
I just always thought that was thething. I didn't know that's where that
came from. I just thought thata shit. Someone, did you read
Alex Haley's autobiography of Malcolm X orbiography? Yeah? Yeah, I thought

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those were the things like where shipyou know, when before we knew what
going viral was. I thought thatwas just one of those things. No,
I got you. But yeah,it's in the autobiography of Malcolm X
as well, So I mean,and I mean that's his own words.
So hey, it's a good rule, and you're in your early twenties,
it keeps you out of jail.But I mean, if you're forty,
so that's what twenty seven for aforty year old, it's only thirteen years

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difference. I'd be lying if Idid my line right now is twenty nine.
I've done, you know, belying if I say it, I
didn't know the number. I amnot having this conversation. So yeah,
well, so China's doing crazy shittinglabs apparently, and we're not supposed to

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notice. So that's cool. Andthey're doing it both domestically and well for
them domestically and internationally because they havethe virus going on with them that they're
just like, no, it's fine, just a little, just a little
pneumonia, don't worry about it.And then over here they're like, nothing
to see here, folks. Hasanyone ever seen what a bola does to

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a mouse? Let's find out.Oh no, wait, wait wait,
we can't do that here, sendit over to California. But yeah,
you know, like Rich said,trans stuff, it's whatever. Thank you
for visiting Christopher media dot net.Thank you for visiting Christopher media dot net.

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You know, okay, just while, while trans stuff keeps being brought
up, we got to talk aboutthe menstrual product company that launched tampons for
men. We have to because Iknow, and we don't have to stay
on it long. It's just gogo just read the stuff that's on the

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box. Just just read the stuffthat's on the box. Oh okay,
hold on, we're getting there.For the product called tampons for Men,
it's sold in a navy blue boxthat says for men and stration wrapped around
on the other side, reading formenstruation. Let's start right there. No,

(30:52):
they're not. Continue like. Thebox also states that periods are not
a gender issue. Assumptions and terminologyrelated to menstruation are highly gendered. It
is important to remember that menstruation isnot a sign of femininity. Last time

(31:14):
I checked. It means you havea Philippian tubes and a uter rest like
a female. By changing attitudes andbroadening perspectives, we can eliminate discrimination against
gender minorities. I like this.This story made me have this thought this
week. I feel maybe I've verbalizedit, maybe not correctly. Don't we
maybe feel we've kind of like ourhu versus kind of we've crossed over into

(31:38):
going, hey, you know whatnature's wrong? I know what nature has
told us, but we know better, Like aren't we like crossing some kind
of line as a species here,Like this isn't this isn't like shit for
a file, It isn't ship fora transman. Who I guess never had

(31:59):
a hysterectomy whatever, so they stillhave their period. Okay, this isn't
that, this is we're plan pretend. Yeah, and corporate America goes along
with it because there's a dollar tobe made and they don't give a damn
to the damage they do to thesociety that has to fucking exist for them
to get their fucking dollars given tothem. No, to be fair,

(32:22):
Oh, fenn America here, thisis a company from Finland. It is,
but then had to jump on there. Tamp packs jumped on it too.
They're an American company, and itwould be it would be disingenuous to
say that American companies haven't been fuckingcuddiling up to anything quote unquote woke.
However you want to take that word. Well, I was gonna say that

(32:44):
for the last four or five years. Well I was gonna say too that
now it will more than likely bemarketed in America. I bet you you
try this in Finland, you mightbe told to go fuck off by half
the country. I don't know,Finland might have See here's the thing,
like it's if a country has ait's live and let live attitude. Which
is if if this is what Americaactually had, we wouldn't have this problem,

(33:07):
because a live and let live attitudewould be the people who want to
do it are happy that they cando it and that's it, and the
people who don't agree with it arelike, yeah, well, but ultimately
really doesn't affect me and whatever.I think it's I think it's weird that
you worship fucking talking snakes or youworship a religion about talking snakes and people
coming back from the dead and notscaring the fuck out everybody. But sure,

(33:30):
yeah, so men can have menstruation. I don't give a fuck.
Don't teach it in fucking school,and don't act like it's fucking a reality
of biology. It's not. That'sall. You can't do those things,
though. The people who get todo the shit they want to do have
to rub it in the face ofthe people who didn't want them to do
it, or worse yet, supporttheir right to do it but don't agree

(33:52):
with them. You can't. Youcan't have that. You have to agree
with me. You have to onehundred percent acquiesque it's about domination. Well,
there you go, because you justanswered. I was like, Here's
the question I have for the makersof these like we've been stealing afraid from
you here, Rich, well worncarpet on this show, haven't. Isn't

(34:13):
The message for this whole thing istrans women are women, right like you
have to treat them just like regularwomen. Why are you making Why are
you making them their own tampons?Why why can't they just go to the
fucking drug store and but just goto the regular tampon out boom. I'm
a woman needs it from me.Why are you making them for men?
Huh? Why why is that tobe? Why is it? If the

(34:36):
whole point is we have to acceptyou as is, why are you setting
yourself aside? Because it's exactly whatyou just said, Rich. And here's
the deal. I've said this overand over again. I've never been a
trans person who wanted to walk aroundscreaming on trans and everyone's face. They
just wanted to be accepted for thegender that they were doing their best to
pass as. That's the end offucking story. So I don't even consider

(34:58):
these fucking these these morons running aroundscreaming I'm trans, paying attention to me,
I don't even consider the trans infact, I would bet if you
could somehow guarantee there'd be no backlash, Like Dave Chappelle talked about the backlash
to the trans comedian that he hada friendship with from her own community,
not from Dave Chappelle's fans, fromher own community, bullied her to the

(35:22):
point she killed herself. There yougo, that's the compassionate that's that compassionate
progressive shit we hear about. Rememberanyways, Yes, it's just, oh
god, it's just those people aren'ttrans. Those people are just assholes.
Those are people that would use anyissue to exert control over other people.
This just happens to be the onethat gives them the most leverage because it

(35:44):
gives them the most victim fucking capitalin our society. And that is that's
that's what, that's capital in oursociety, victimhood. I just it's so
absurd that I really struggle to likeput into words how absurd it is.
Go take us back ten years,put us in a time machine ten years

(36:07):
ago, and tell us that wewere going to be talking about tampons for
men that were actually hitting shelves.Tampon's marketed two men. And that's just
ten years ago, ten years ago, Tampon's for Men was a fucking joke
and a stand up act. Nowwe're here, edw're uh a pregnant man?
There's a movie called what was it? Junior? What was the Schwarzenegger

(36:29):
movie? Rich? Yeah? Yeah, And now we talk about it like
as commonplace and we have to likeit's a thing, like it's not a
fucking thing, like what I like, Really we're crossing, like we're saying
nature is wrong, Like that's thatdoesn't like nobody's going huh, Like that's
not ringing, that's not making anybodystop for a second, Like I'm taking

(36:50):
I'm I'm like, I Am notcoming from the place that you're saying God
made a mistake. No, likeyou're saying that how things played out naturally
biologically for millions of years. We'reall of a sudden going, no,
that's wrong. Hold up. Ifeel there's like tons of movies and books
about this shit. Well, also, how many of these people who would
say that no, in this case, nature is wrong. We're the ones

(37:13):
that we're going, oh, isn'tit like wrong? And paranoid, basically
echoing the Bill Hicks sentiment, isn'tit wrong in paranoid to make nature illegal,
aka make a plant illegal, somethingreadily found in nature that'll grow on
its own all of a sudden.There. You know, when it comes
to legal marijuana, they don't impedenature. But in this case, this

(37:37):
case, no nature got it wrong. No nature just got it wrong.
My seven year old son's supposed tobe a girl, which is the people
who buy into shit like this andwho like go around talking about you know,
the trans women are real women andall of that are the same people
that will yell at you for playingdress up on Halloween and dressing like and

(38:00):
because that's cultural appropriation. Yeah,there's no there's no there's no ethical there's
no moral true north with these people. It's whatever wins the argument or whatever
their leaders and their side tell themto fucking use as talking points. Yeah,
what are our marching orders? That'swhy it Every week it's harder and

(38:24):
harder for me to sit here andgo. I can't give the idiots outnumber
us, Jess. We're surrounded onall sides by morons. I don't know
what else to tell people. I'msorry, and here's here's the deal.
I don't give a fuck if youare your political leanings are right to the
left or dead nuts center or whateverthe fuck? If you're intelligent, if

(38:45):
you are aware of your surroundings,if you don't jump to conclusions, if
you actually let the facts play outand let the facts fall where they fucking
may, and let the truth belike rain and not give a fuck who
it falls on. I'm sorry.This world ain't built for us. I

(39:05):
will tell you, though. Idid find a glimmer of hope because there
was a comment section on this articleand I went down to it really like
ready to have my feelings hurt.And the comments are I mean, it's
there. You can find them bothpro and against right, but mainly it's
people talking about Wait is this satire? A person with a womb and has

(39:30):
periods? Is a woman by sex? Is not a man? Ha ha
ha. On this week's episode ofPUNKD, please someone wake me up from
this absurd dream. What would itlook like if a woman and a wannabe
were fighting over the last package oftampons and I'm reading them in order,
like I'm not. This isn't meskipping around. I skipped some of the

(39:50):
front ones just because this is whereI had scrolled to and there are people
there are people who say this towardsthe top. It's not called men straight
for nothing. The next thing youknow, women will be allowing or America
will be allowing women to vote.Crazy. I like and prefer capitalism,
but sometimes it results in some weirdthings. But like, for the most

(40:12):
part, the comments on there weretalking about just the complete absurdity of this,
and that gave me just a tinyamount of folks I've I've mentioned it
before. People are starting to gettired of It's I'm telling you there's a
difference there people who are on thefence about anything to do with with with
anything transgender. If all you ifall you see of transgender people are the

(40:36):
quote unquote transgenders online, you're probablygoing to have a very negative opinion of
transgender people. When you see someonewho's I'm trying to be as polite as
possible, making as strong an effortas they possibly can to pass is the
gender that they're trying to pass as, but just for whatever reason, it
ain't ain't one hundred percent. It'samazing how those people people will instantly even

(41:01):
if they're on the fence and they'relike, yeah, I don't really agree
with transgender stuff. If it's ifit's a transgender woman walking up, well
they'll refer to a biological man asma'am. Why I'm giving you the respect
of trying. These are not peoplethat are trying. Those are people that
are just literally driving and pushing amovement from behind the keyboard. And they

(41:25):
have no economic fucking firepower behind them. If you need any fucking proof that
none of these activist fucking entertainment modernaudience types give a fuck about anything that
that that panders to them, lookat the new Marvel's movie. It did
less than fifty million dollars on itsopening weekend in the United States. That's

(41:47):
something like, I think they brokeit down. With all the screens it's
on. It's less than seventeen hundreddollars per screen opening weekend. Think about
that. A Marvel movie opened upto that budget. The reported budget two
hundred and fifty million, which meansyou can probably add another one hundred million
to it, which means that moviewould have had to break a billion to

(42:08):
Britain to that. Movies have tomake, depending on who you ask,
two and a half to three timestheir budget to break you to make a
profit. It ain't. Oh oh, is this rich? That's one example.
Oh oh, I'm sorry. Iwant to keep it with Disney.
Look at the new fucking Indiana Jonesmovie that came and went like a fart
in the whirlwind. Who remembers that? How about the one that just came

(42:31):
out Thanksgiving weekend? Wish third place? There you go, And if we
want to get away from Disney,we can go over to DC. Look
at the Flash movie. That's thereported budget on the Flash. I've heard
his high at three hundred million,so you could probably almost bump it up
to half a billion dollars on thatmovie. That movie, I think we'll
be lucky to crack. I thinka quarter billion dollars worldwide. And there's

(42:55):
by the way, physical media willbe almost all but officially dead next year
because beginning on the first, Walmart, best Buy and a bunch of other
big box stores will stop carrying physicalmedia such as DVDs and CDs, So
there's no secondary fucking release market tosave these flops anymore. And all these

(43:16):
all these movies have in common.They all pandered to modern audiences. The
people with blue hair screaming online thepeople who never support what they say they
want. The classic example I couldtell you is the WNBA. It's been
around for what twenty five years?The NBA has to subsidize it because it

(43:38):
doesn't make money. It's Bill Burr'sjoke, but it's true. Where are
you at, ladies? You shouldbe These things should be packed. Detroit
had a team that won like threechampionships in like a decade a row.
Yeah, and it had two moves, like a year after it won,

(44:00):
like it's last championship. It hasthat move. But see, that's what
they've been banking on, Chris,because they can just they've the WNBA has
been doing this for what twenty fiveyears now, Then the minute anyone brings
up women, women do go.There's just not enough women fans. But
if you look at all the menwho watched male basketball, if they went

(44:22):
to games at the WNBA, wentto WNBA games WNAB success. Yeah,
but they don't want to watch slowfucking women play basketball. Why do we
have to go? We have ourown league. But Chris hold On,
I got the population. There's whoare you bitch? I got it better
for you than that. This Marvel'smovie come out sixty seven percent of the

(44:44):
people who went to see this movieopening weekend. Men the fucking all the
fucking the pro fucking progressive and culturewar and feminist bullshit online places. The
reason this movie failed because men wouldn'tgo see it, even when it's majority
overwhelming majority. Men supporting something andwomen just abandoning it are not or worse,

(45:10):
being completely apathetic from the get go, not caring whatsoever. Men's fault.
That's that's what they're going with.That's the explanation for this man baby
trolls on the internet made this moviefail. Who's the conspiracy theorist now right?
It's like it's if if a minorityor a woman is is heavily involved

(45:31):
in something anymore, you are not. It's it's not allowed to be bad.
Just you cannot be allowed to fail. And if it does, white
men aren't responsible for it. Likethe you making a terrible product is not
in the cart It's not allowed,it's not on the table. It's not
an option. How many more clichesyou want, like, And that's like,

(45:52):
I think one of the defining characteristicsof gen X is we could sniff
out pandering and we would tell youto get that ship out of here.
But Jess, your people and thegeneration after you, they fucking love it.
And I don't understand why it's it'sfake. It's not they're doing it

(46:12):
to make money. They don't care. I do not understand why the two
generations behind me eat this shit upwith a spoon, because me and my
cohorts would tell you to get thatshit fucking out of here. I'm telling
you, dude, I'm telling youreal world boots on the ground interactions with
gen Z. I don't see thepandurine being fucking lapped up with the fucking

(46:32):
soups Bud. You might. I'mjust saying yes, But I guess what
I'm saying, I'm saying the toneof all of the marketing at them,
I guess is what I'm getting at. Well, you got to remember there
was there was that shift between thebaby boomers to gen X marketing, even
though quote unquote gen X marketing lastedless than a decade, because what you

(46:55):
said, we could sniff this shipout and really gen X market was kind
of one note. It's one trick, pony. It was extreme. Okay,
we don't care about it that thatword sucked a minute we heard it,
What the fuck? We don't care. I love how they made fun
of it in Harold and Kumar ExtremeChadder, but that was it. That

(47:21):
was there's gen X marketing. Yeah, everything was extreme, So I was
like, okay, But I mean, I just I think personally that we've
entered this Jesus Christ. I don'teven know what to call it. It's
it's a false construct. The peoplewho call everything a social construct are socially

(47:43):
constructing this bullshit out of thin air. None of this shit, like I
said, building in the world howthey wish it would be, instead of
looking at it how it is.But there's no true North because they can't
get together and agree on which wayis north. North is to me my
truth this way, North is tome my truth this way. Well,
I read on the internet that Northis this way. But I I I'm

(48:07):
just saying I think gen Z isgonna end up being a lot more like
gen X, just like gen Xis a lot more like the Silent Generation
aka our grandparents generation than we arelike our parents. The eighteen through thirties
right now are pulling better with Trumpthan they were three years ago. Isn't
everybody pulling better with Trump than theywere three years ago. But isn't it

(48:30):
isn't it ultimately just? Isn't itultimately just? I hope that if I
vote for Trump things will get better. What's different between casting that vote and
buying a lottery ticket? I hopeI hit the lottery because things will get
better. Well, because historically thingswere better. Yeah, but we're just
getting that. Since he's been inoffice, there's been a lot of bells,
you in unringing. No matter who'sin charge, any right the government

(48:54):
takes via regulation, you'll have totake back in blood. That's there's no
country who's ever been taken over bya dictator or one wing of of of
you know, or one wing orone you know, uh, political party
or governmental party whatever that it's wentquiet. So how far does this ship

(49:19):
go? I mean, how fardo we just fucking let people just make
up their own fucking realities and justand we just all go along with it.
Because at a certain point it's unsustainable. I'm telling you it's unsustainable.
And the ship that they are tellingkids, grade school level kids is flat
out live. You are special,you are unique, you are genius,
You're a leader. What that escalatedquickly, and not every kid is I

(49:47):
know, but you can't, dude, once they start shooting out these miracles,
you can't convince them that they're miracle. Ain't special because it's special to
me. Okay, So I meanspecially everybody. Huh, all right,
Bertha humping them out. But everykid's a genius, every kid's a leader.
Then who follows who listens to thegenius talk? And by the way,

(50:08):
if you see the teachers telling thesekids that they're geniuses and leaders,
these teachers couldn't find a genius anda leader with both hands in a flashlight.
So I don't know what the fuckthey're talking about. I feel we
were told when we were let outinto the world from our institutions of higher
learning that, and I don't thinkthe people behind us have been told this.

(50:34):
Rich I know you knew. Iknow that you heard this. Hey,
the world needs janitors. Someone's gotto pick up shit. I mean,
honestly, I think high school guidancecounselors give the same rap and have
been given the same wrap for thirtyforty, maybe even fifty years at this
point, which is the rap thatthey can give to every student that walks
through their doors. That is whatthey consider a lost cause. That'll get

(50:57):
the parents off their back and outtheir office the quickest, which is your
student show may it may not reflectin their academic scholastic grades, but your
student has leadership abilities and blah blahblah blah. Because every fucking retarded jackass
I know and went to school withwas told that shit by their fucking by
their high school guidance counselor oh outsideof that new no, if you fucking

(51:23):
sat there and got into a verbalaltercation with a teacher, nine times out
of ten, that teacher went outof their way to make sure the whole
class thought you were fucking functionally retardedat best. Now it's almost like they're
I see videos of it's almost likethey're apologizing to the kids. There's videos
plenty of fucking compilation videos, andyes they're only like four or five seconds,

(51:46):
but you can watch the whole allthe videos if you want and to
run up to it. And ninetimes out of ten it's the kids who
start this shit of kids just beatingthe shit out their teachers in classrooms and
teachers just sitting there having to takeit while other kids are like do something.
We there, do something, andI'm just like, that's bro,
dude. That's some teachers in Catholicschool where you could tell like god damn

(52:07):
it. I used to be ableto hit you like you'd be shitting your
pants, like like oh, thisperson is pissed, Like, uh,
there's some shit I went through andwith some Catholic school teachers that oh this
person would be a war criminal now, Like hands were never laid on me,
but just some of the things thatwere said to me and the tones
that were used, like oh man, like oh holy shit, like just

(52:32):
it's I do know, it's cliche. Just it would not happen today.
It would it would not go downthat way today, no way. Like
seriously, in night I was insecond grade and I went into second grade
in nineteen eighty six, and thechatter around the school was like, oh
till like two years ago, thenuns could hit you, Like I just
made it. My dad used toget a hit with a fucking ruler in

(52:54):
school in front of the class.Yeah. When I started school, corporal
punishment was loud. Like in publicschool, they didn't hit you. But
by the way, if you lookup to the letter of the law,
especially in Florida, they really stuckto this. Corporal punishment is like the
reason they they fought to keep iton the books is because it's anything like
where they could make you do anytype of physical activity as punishment for acting

(53:19):
up. So literally go run lapsis corporal punishment. That's not how we
were raised to think of corporal punishment, but by the letter of the law,
that's what it is. Oh,there was definitely there was standing in
the corner. There was putting desksout in the hall, there was putting
desks away from the rest of it. There's all that car Oh, we
had a teacher that you want toyou didn't want to read, You didn't

(53:39):
want to read out loud. Doyou wanted to throw your book or you
wanted to fucking not? You takecare of like wrap the book up in
the fucking paper like they told usto and all that shit. Take care
of your book. Okay, goback, put your back up against the
wall. Now, squat. It'swhere you're in a sitting position and you
get to hold your book out infront of you and you get to sit
there until they get hired. AndI'm just like that shit they do to

(54:01):
people in the military, and Idon't think they've done that for twenty years
now. And that was shit thatit was going on in grade school when
I was in grade school, andnobody fucking flinched or blink to eye.
But I guarantee you all these samefucking people that didn't even flinch or blank
and I then. But if theywere still in the same fucking field of
childhood development and education five ten yearslater, when it was taboo to do

(54:23):
that would be like, Oh,that's horrible. Why weren't you saying this
shit? Because you you have notrue moral fucking north on your compass.
You people have no backbone, youhave no ethics. You flop around in
the wind like a fucking weed,useless. But yeah, let's let them

(54:43):
fucking educate the next couple of generations. How's that good? How's that working
out so far? Let me askyou question, Chris. You've hired people
as part of your fucking job.At one point, motherfucker walked in told
you he two people walked in.Once said I have a high school Both
they said they had a high schooleducation, but once said I have a
public high school education. Once thatI have a private school and high school
education. Who the fuck are yougiving much more consideration too based on that

(55:07):
the private school. Well, firstof all, the private school guys around
than even coming into the things Iwas hiring people for because because private school,
Yeah, that's just the first step. No. Yeah, I've told
the story of one hundred times.I went to the Catholic education went up
to ninth grade. I did CatholicHigh school for ninth grade, and I

(55:28):
switched to public school tenth grade.I did the exact same stuff, like
almost literally tenth grade in public school. Like it was like, oh my
god, public schools a year behind, like read all the same books in
English class, had all like thesame type of science classes, all the
same type of math classes, allof it. It's like holy shit,

(55:49):
Like that's why, like I couldhave had a much better GPA. But
well, you kind of got boredin tenth grade and slept through most of
the year because I just did this, like, you know, pass all
the tests because like, yeah,I remember all the shit. I just
did it last year. I ventureto guess it's probably much more than just
one or two years behind. Now, No suh, And you have high

(56:10):
school graduates who can't read above athird grade level now, and I'm like,
how do you graduate? You can'tread above a third grade level?
Is like a twat hair above fuckingdoctor Seuss, dude. And there are
some schools that are that are startingto do away with grades, some schools

(56:30):
that are starting to do away withGPAs. There are some colleges that are
like, we're no longer going toconsider GPAs for admission because blah blah blah
blah blah racism. Of course,yeah, like so all right, it's
it is just man, I'm gladI didn't make any more people. I

(56:50):
just I would just shrug my shouldersat him every day, going good luck,
don't be a shithead, and goodluck, have fun with the world
that's being built. Well, youknow, it's getting to be the uh
near oh shit territory when you havelike thirty thirty five year old black folks
talking about Oh hell no, Iwouldn't send my kid to public school.

(57:12):
Are you kidding me? They producednothing but retards? And I'm like,
wow. I was talking to mybrother in law on Thanksgiving, because we
went to the same high school abouthow many of the teachers we had were
just fucking checked out and just I'mI'm just here. They were Marshawn Lynch,
I'm just here. So I don'tget fine because they were within like
five years. Okay, but Ineed to, Okay, I need to.

(57:37):
I need to give context people notfrom metro Detroit who don't understand why
it's so weird to hear black parentsof that age say that, because it
has been a very major point tomake in Detroit that we need to keep
Detroit public school system going. That'sbeen a fucking mantra. They've been in

(57:59):
war drum. They've been beating foryeah, like three decades now. Oh
yeah, charters. If you bringup charter schools in Detroit, you get
shouted down, they throw tomatoes atyou. But you're having a I guess
a majority that has been silent inthe black community finally being comfortable or maybe
it's this is my white privilege.I guess they can talk to they can

(58:22):
talk to this. Oh fay crackerass motherfucker over here. I don't know,
but like for them just to mentionthat shit that was, you would
know that was something twenty years ago. M you would. It's almost ironic
because as much as they would likeus to think the racial shit is so
bad right now, Like I'm thinkingtwenty years ago, you wouldn't really bring

(58:44):
that up to a black person ifyou didn't agree with them on that subject,
because it's going to be most likelya heated debate Vergin on an argument.
There's probably gonna be accusations of racismand white flight everything else thrown about,
and all hell's gonna break loose nowthey've made shit so horrible. Black
people and whiteople were both like,it's some bullshit. There you go,

(59:07):
here's a quality. What do westart saying? And we started this podcast
everybody to be equal. It's arace to the bottom because the only way
we can be equal is if we'reall equally worthless. That's it. That's
it. But hey, you know, I mean Detroit and a half generations
raised by single mothers who want everybody'sfeelings to be taking a consideration, regardless
of the fucking outcome, has ledus here. Yay, nay, single

(59:30):
motherhood. Murphy Brown did it inthe nineties and it was something no one
remembers it now, but it wasa big deal then. And yeah,
you've come a long way, bitch. Congratulations and nobody wants to mention you're
not allowed to bring you know,because it hate facts come into play.
Just how children from two parent familiesdo compare two children from not two parent

(59:52):
fans. Eighty five percent of mensitting in prison grew up in survey says
single parent homes number one answers thankyou. And by the way, that's
across racial and economic lines. Yea, So it's not based on socioeconomic factors.
That is No, that's just oh, you know the other thing you're

(01:00:13):
not allowed to bring not in thehome, you know, the other thing
you're not allowed to bring up becauseit's another hate fact. How come more
men are in prison than women?Do you unders you understand how light of
sentences women get for the exact samecrimes that men'll get convicted of. It
it's like, it's it's it's it'sit was like they get on average two

(01:00:36):
thirds of the time the men get. Now it's down the half. There
you go, and that's why youget seventy one cents. Hey, you
get paid less, you paid lessin car insurance, you do less prison
time, you live longer. That'salso provable. You walk in divorce court
and you get fucking immediately. You'reassumed to be the best parent by virtue
of vagina, never mind seventy oneper cents on the dollars because you guys

(01:00:59):
choose different career. It's a paiddifference bottom take time off for pregnancy,
sh so it's an earnings gap.It's not a wage gap. But you
can't explain that to people who don'twant to hear it. I'm sorry,
Go ahead, jess oh. Iwas just saying with the court thing that
it's no longer just assumed for thewoman that's a that's taking a pretty good
shift now And almost every custody fightnow is fifty to fifty, like whatever.

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It depends on where you're at,what state you're at, does it
you my experience, you go toNew York, the more welfare driven the
state is, the more daddy's gonnahave to pay and mommy's gonna get custody
because they can. Fucking the welfarestate can perpetuate itself by only by giving

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in itself an excuse to keep turningand grinding his gears, which is single
mothers who need welfare help. Andwe can always go after the fathers.
And if the fathers don't pay inthe state of New York, they go
to jail. So either way,the state of New York is either going
to get taxes or not taxes,but garnished wages to pay for the welfare

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that the woman is quote unquote gettingfor free, or they're going to get
free labor out of the man whenthey send him in the prisons, which,
by the way, makes him apermanent underclass. Cit it gives us
a society a permanent underclass. Whatdid you go to jail for? I
didn't pay my child support. Oh, you're a piece of shit. You're
a scumbag. We're not going totalk about how they won't readjust the guy's

(01:02:28):
child support and when he was workingwherever the fuck make an X amount of
money, it was set at thisrate. Now he makes a quarter of
what he used to make, buthe still has to pay at the old
rate, because yeah, we're notgoing to readjust it. We'll look at
it when we look at it.Yeah, I know people that happened too
for real, But I know that'sanecdotal evidence. It doesn't matter because somebody
online said so, So it doesn'tmatter. I am not calling you wrong.

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I'm not saying you are. I'mjust saying this is how people fucking
think. How many times have Igot to see some shit with my own
fucking eyes before I can go Okay, No, it ain't the way you're
fucking saying it is. I guessI am just seeing it differently. But
that could be where I live.That could just be the difference between I
don't know what red state versus bluestatewould have to do with it, or

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just just my state's politics. Idon't really know. My guess is probably
it depends on how much money isin the area. The more money that
can be bled via the family court, divorce lawyers and getting judges and magistrates
and everybody else that's fucking part ofthat process in there, getting them an
excuse to get a paycheck sent tothem, you know, whatever the fuck

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they're going to do. The lowerincome area you're in, the more of
those fucking parasites you're gonna find,just the nature of the beast. Please
don't think I'm mad at you,Jess. I'm not. I wasn't mad.
I didn't mean to come off likeI'm attacking you personally, because it's
not about you it's just about It'sjust I get it. I understand people
are like, but it's not likethat I had this situation happen. I

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understand that, but that's still that'snot the baseline. I have three friends
in the last five years who gotdivorced, who have kids, and one
of them got fifty to fifty custodyand the other two it was just like,
I don't have the money to fightfor it because I not only I
know I have to pay for mylawyer, I have to pay for her
lawyer, and I have to payfor the court cost. Okay, that

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I disagree with. But did theynot fight? Did they just not go
to court? Did they just settlein mediation and just give her what she
wanted? Or did they go tocourt? Because I am I'm looking at
it right now, I'm looking.I mean, I'm on Wikipedia. Okay,
I can only say for I'm tryingto see if this hold on a

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second, I'm trying to decide ifthis I'm ethically okay to say this,
I think so. Can'm not namingany names. His situation was. Her
lawyer was like, no, shegets primary. They can have joint custody,
but she gets primary physical custody becausethat entitled her to all government and
child support benefits. And he waslike, his lawyer was like, you

(01:04:59):
want to fight that. That's likefive six grand that's what I'm going to
need upfront as a retainer to evenstart this process. And he's like,
I don't have it. Well whatdo you have? I have this?
This gets you this. That's whatI can do for you for that amount
of money. That's how the systemworks. It just is what it is.
And I mean, this is thisis why I tell every guy I

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talk to, should have CUGE,should I get married? As long as
you understand the risk you're taken,understand she can wake up when they and
not like the way you part yourhair in a no fault divorce state and
your life just entered hell for thenext three to five years. So I
am learning via again Wikipedia, andit's all really happened. It looks like

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since twenty seventeen that most states,just from what I'm scrolling and seeing,
are presumed to be fifty to fiftywhenever you're divorcing, they assume, they
presume that it will be a fiftyto fifty shared custody of the kids.
Unless someone does lawyer up and triesto show or has I guess way to

(01:06:05):
show that that would not be inthe best interest of the kid. But
if you're doing just a no contestfor divorcing, this is how this is
going to go. Most states thatI'm just scrolling and seeing right now are
presumption fifty to fifty. That kindof attracks with what I'm saying, because

(01:06:27):
I mean, I'm suffering the oldman itis here. I fully admit that,
and I retract what I said aboutfive years ago. I'm thinking between
like roughly like twenty fifteen twenty twenty, totally different time then, and I
because I thought the same thing.I've heard of people getting divorced and you
know they're they're really trying to fightthe man to keep the kids, and

(01:06:50):
the dad gets fifty to fifty nomatter like with evidence brought against them for
reason that I would assume if Iwere a judge, would be reasons not
to. Yep. I mean myexperience and all this will ship all over
everything Rich just said. But Ihave a nephew who his dad doesn't pay
dick, and he has a joboff the books, and it's been proven

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and it doesn't matter. And mysister adheres to the custody agreement and he
just does what the county we livein is. He gets arrested once every
holiday season, pays his five grandevery year, and then we'll fucking see
you next year as long as thefriend of the cunt gets their fucking cut.
Like any good fucking mafia mafioso,excuse me, they don't give a
fuck hope, so they pick themup. Pay your fucking tax to the

(01:07:36):
state. They have five five grand. Your sister ain't seeing the fucking full
five grand, correct, Like sheis she put this, She has given
up. She is just to thepoint where she's like, am out of
money for lawyers. I'm sick ofwasting my time. Like I've proven to
I've proven to them, he's beingfucking shady and fucking she's just whatever.

(01:07:57):
Like it's she's like, she'll justshe'll, you know, she'll he'll get
to the age where he figures outwho he is and then it'll be fucking
dump and see that. That's alot of my experience with it is just
the dad's being given rights that theyI don't. In my opinion, they
shouldn't be given but it's just becauseno, because we're a fifty to fifty
states. So that's that's all Iwas saying about that. I'm not y'all

(01:08:21):
know me. I'm not one tojump on the feminist train, but I
have This isn't a feminist train.This is just there are not divorce laws
in place to defend and protect men, but almost every divorce law in place
is there to defend and protect women. And they're going to go in there

(01:08:43):
and cry about I have accustomed tothis lifestyle. My child needs half of
his fucking money and plus another eighteenpercent and get him to cover all the
bills and all the bubble. Well, if he if you need that much
of his money, why isn't hefucking kid and you fucking visiting the kid
since he's got all the fucking theways and means. That's never brought up

(01:09:05):
though, And if it is,you know a kid belongs with his mother.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Dude? Seriously, what the
fuck is wrong with you? That'swhat that's the response you get now now,
Because I love being in the middle, I do it from another side.
I got a buddy who when hewas going back and forth when him
and a mother of his kids splitup, like he had all kinds of

(01:09:27):
character witnesses and social media proof thatthis you know, this chick love drinking
and partying more than being a mom. And the answer was no, uh,
nope, she's a mom. Theylive with her full time, and
he'd and he played the game.My sister went, like, tired of
paying lawyers, I'm tired of goingthrough court. And when they got to
the age where they could figure outwhat's going on, guess who? They

(01:09:47):
just guess who, they decided theywanted to live with. The judge kept
well, the judge, capto,would you work too much? Here's the
deal. It really does depend onthe luck of the drag you get.
As far as the judge and wherethe your family court takes place in it,
there are and this is what isso insane about our system. You
will talk to family law experts,you will talk to divorce lawyers and they

(01:10:12):
will go, oh, it alldepends on where it's filed and what judge
we pull. Wait a minute,the law is the law. Why does
it matter where and what judge issitting behind the bench for the trial.
You're admitting there's bias in this shit, and you're saying it right up front,
and nobody has beef with it.Now tell me how you're supposed to
navigate that system when there are nofucking rules, You can't get any solid

(01:10:38):
ground under your feet. What areyou supposed to do when you go to
one judge in one county and it'sone fucking set of standards that you're held
to. You go to another judgein another county because she moved, and
it's a completely different set of standardsyou're held to, and everybody acknowledges it,
and nobody does a fuck, it, gives a fuck, or does
a fucking thing about it. Ladies, I'm just gonna say this now,

(01:10:59):
do you understand why men just throwtheir hands up and go we give up?
We don't. We become accustomed toliving with shit being wrong, because
that's called life for us. Justis. No one cares, No government
agency is gonna come fucking rescue anymen from this shit. We can't cry
loud enough to get a whole monthfor people to wear baby blue because of
nut cancer or some shit, Buty'all get fucking breast cancer awareness. Everybody

(01:11:24):
in the world to wear a breastcancer. Okay, or's all this fun?
Yeah, what happened to November?What was it ten years ago?
Everyone's growing mustaches for nut cancer?What happened to that? No, now
it's no nut November. Don't jerkoff in November? What? Oops?
How the fuck is it? NoFAP November? What or whatever the fuck
they call it? They've changed thename a few times. I'm like,

(01:11:45):
well, that was just no shaveNovember. That's all I've ever heard you
had, a guy. I've hadto explain this to some people in my
life recently that women you just don'tunderstand men, like like like like you
think you do. And also youngerdudes, you're not real men compared to
soldier dudes. Sorry. Case inpoint, if I run out of the
bathroom and look at any of myfriends and go, yo, dude,

(01:12:08):
you got to come in here andsee this. What do you think I'm
going to point out to you?Turd? Thank you? And why am
I pointing it out to you?Because it is to be pointed out because
it's probably Yes, there's something worthyabout that. Why is it? Everybody
around me goes, that's disgusting?What is it with you? And shit?
And I'm like, because one personran out the bathroom and told another

(01:12:30):
person. Both of these people female, by the way, come look at
this. And I'm like, whatis it a world record? Had you
break the water line? Yeah?I'm like, is it? Is it
coming up out of the water likea swan neck or something? You know
what I'm saying. Does it looklike you like took your ass and swirled
it around like soft serve ice cream? I did that recently? Detail,
I did that recently, what youwere sleeping, But I broke the water

(01:12:51):
line. I was like, ohshit, I haven't done this a long
time, but yes, And it'sjust like, that's disgusting. I And
then the in the're like, man, I've never done that about shit.
And I'm just like, oh different, different, different generation. I just
want to look at it and belike, do you find it hard to
hide the fact you're gay? Butthe other thing too, you could be

(01:13:11):
like, well, this is wedid not have the internet my entire life.
This is this is what happened.But here's the irony of it.
If you're even ten years younger thanus, you probably remember. If you're
ten years younger than us and you'rea guy, jess or you're a very
sick chick who was in this reallysick shit on the internet. You probably
remember, as I called ratemipoo dotcom. Oh yeah, yeah, there's

(01:13:31):
also there's various other ratemids dot com. But yeah, yeah, I don't
even know if it's still up.But yeah, that used to be a
thing. And man, when whenwhen flip phones, Like when we realized
the cameras and the possibilities rate mypooh became Yeah, it became muscy fucking
internet for real. So yes,I'm not the weird one here. Here's

(01:13:56):
just gonna be like, I don'tknow anything about any of those. She
will, she she will? Ohno, I know some things about Oh
okay, fair enough in her household. She will within five years, Oh
she will. No. Remember,I have a husband. I know.
My ex wife was the fucking WayneGretzky, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady of

(01:14:24):
the Fart Game all rolled into oneand my friends. I warned them,
you come at the King at yourown rips. Okay, I'm telling you,
And if you come at the King, you best not miss And I
had friends and she's like that's funny, right, yeah, Okay, And

(01:14:45):
dude, she would drop some ship. The people were like, oh my
god, I've smelled corpses just smelledbetter. And I mean just and she'd
wait till there half asleep and justhover and just fart into their open mouth.
I mean, just drill one rightinto their open mouth. So chicks
part and it smells like hot dogs. I know. He's my wife and
my daughter, both women, andit fart. It smells like hot dogs.

(01:15:13):
Some Scrubs, the last good seasonof Scrubs. All right, thank
you for visiting Christopher media dot net. Thank you for visiting Christopher media dot
net. Do we have anything oflike? What the fuck time is it

(01:15:45):
is? Anyone still listening? Whatthe fuck are we doing? Now?
What are we? What are wedoing here? We got that Rolling Stone
list. Okay, we gotta gottawe gotta explact, we gotta expect this
up. Okay. So when wecovered the top two hundred and fifty guitar
players according to Rolling Stone Today acouple of weeks ago or whatever it was
a month ago, Jess wasn't onthis time. It's so we were able

(01:16:08):
to like nerd you know. Itwas yeah, yeah, if you like
hearing music, nerds being music nerds, go. I believe the episode is
called two Rolling Stones. Uh.The fact that like I'm sitting there listening
to, like a couple of weekslater, I'm listening to Losing your Mind
by fucking Zach Wilde, and I'mjust like, damn, dude, we

(01:16:30):
nerded out over how cleanly he pickedthat one section. And it's like only
guitar nerds would appreciate that. Everyoneelse is like, that's not so showy,
blah blah blah, No, butit's insanely fucking But what you can
do that is fucking sweet. Thatis insane. Yes, that is taking

(01:16:50):
control that I could only dream of. And I've had guitar players who are
fucking they've been all over the worldtouring and be like, you got damn
good fucking pick control and you're finessewith your picking and all that shit,
And I don't have nowhere close tothat. So yeah, and that's back
when everything was on tape, likehe played it. Anyway, So they

(01:17:14):
have an eighties now it's the toptwo hundred and the eighties. But they
have this stipulation which is, yeah, let's read let me read their terms
here, and then oh, theydon't really throw out terms. But I
could tell you there's only you onlyget one song per artist on the list,
which so for an example, justas an example, we're not I'm

(01:17:35):
saying, this is the song,okay, just an example. If they
were like Prince, they'd be like, okay, Purple Rain is the song
that we believe Prince is best knownfor from the eighties, and that would
represent his entire body of work inthe eighties. According to them, this
is right or misinterurped in the rules. This is their rules, not ours.

(01:17:58):
So what we want to do sowe can include everybody in the podcast,
yeah like in reality, like firstof if they were honest, like
Michael Jacks will be half the topten. Oh yeah, easy. But
what we want to do is wehave an eighties baby and what but she
don't remember the eighties, and wehave two people who grow up and I

(01:18:19):
do remember all of them because Iremember like eighty two ish on My first
confirmed memory from both my parents wasI was three and a half maybe on
the other side of the half,so half plus three and a half plus,
and I remember being in a movietheater in the beginning of Empire Strikes

(01:18:42):
Back Starts and that's nineteen eighty thatmovie come out. I turned three in
nineteen eighty eight in April, andthat movie come out on Monday. If
I'm saying three and a half ish, then that that tracks for me because
it if you say, I say, if you say three and a half
cent because that eighty two would thatfor me? So we we have conscious

(01:19:02):
memories of the eighties and the music. Like you know, look, radio
was king in the eighties. Thatwas the mode of delivery for music and
and MTV big time. And Ihave been making an update and playlist for
for for my drive times and shit, and like, yeah, I definitely

(01:19:23):
clearly remember my mom getting ready forwork and stepping out by Joe Jackson playing
on the radio, like I canclose that and see that and it was
new because I remember because it wasThey've said it was new on the radio.
They were like this new blah blahblah blah blah. And it's just
one of those memories that's burned intomy head forever for whatever reason. So

(01:19:44):
yeah, oh yeah, that waslike eighty eighty one when that song come
out. So there you go,yeah, you know, oh yeah,
I remember, yeah, I rememberthat. Yeah, I totally remember listening
to a lot of these songs.So rich you were saying, what we're
what we were going to do forthe eighties child, We had a we
had an idea. Name will namethe artist, and then Jess will name

(01:20:04):
whatever song that she knows she canthat if she can, that she thinks
would be representative of that artist's work, be in the most eighties. M
hm. So all right, makessense. I know very little, So
just just be prepared for y'all's feelingsto be hurt and rich. I'm going
to too, and I'm going tolike skim the list and also just uh,

(01:20:27):
just any one that's of note,because in true Rolling Stone fashion,
there is a lot of people onthis Like I'm a music nerded and I
haven't heard it, like a lotof these people like really like that makes
me want to look at the listbecause it's the eighties. I'm going,
who are they pulling from? That'sthat obscure that would be on a list
of top songs. But I mean, after that guitarist list, they're not

(01:20:47):
going off of whether they wear atop song or whatever. Is how we
how influential we think they are.But she is like, that's not how
that works, but sure, allright, so we'll just this is just
for people who want to know.If you want to know the bookends one
ninety nine is biz Marky just afriend? There's no way she knows that?

(01:21:12):
And do we does anyone know anotherbass Marquis song? Uh, Summertime
Thebis and Me but I but yeah, I get it. But Biz Marquy
was like he was on what hedid a couple of songs with like Dougie
Fresh and shit like that. Ifyou know old school hip hop, even

(01:21:32):
if you don't know the names ofthese songs, if you heard these songs,
if you heard these beats, ifyou heard these samples, you'd be
like, I know that he's ona ton of that stuff, but you
wouldn't know it's him because he's mostlybeatboxing. Gotcha. So h one night,
I'm not even tell her the fuckingartist. I'm gonna go with the
song title just yeah, ninety nineLeft Balloons, which translates to ninety nine

(01:21:57):
Red Balloons. Oh, I knowthe song, all right? Cool.
I think that song should be higherbecause that's dominated in the eighties into the
nineties. I think that's a topto the two thousand that's a top fifty
year for sure. Easy. Which, by the way, I'm gonna make
hash marks here. Okay, oneninety seven, we're already at the bullshit.

(01:22:18):
There's no way this was a fuckingno. No. Nineteen eighty eight,
Fuck you. I was eleven,and I was fucking very aware what
was going on, especially in thefucking charts. My bloody Valentine was not
on anyone in the fucking top forties. Goddamn Radar. Yeah, fuck you
rolling Stone. And I'm not sayingthat because my bloody value. I'm shitting

(01:22:41):
on my bloody Valentine. I'm shittingon Rolling Stone trying to fucking rewrite history.
No, this, you U cocksuck. Well this, I mean,
even when Rolling Stone was a littlebit closer to the mainstream, they still
tried to be up their own asswith stuff. This falls and that falls
in that category. Uh. BobbyBrown, Yes, Houston's husband. Wow.
No, okay, all right,And I think my prerogative, I

(01:23:04):
gotta say I'm for him. It'sfair. Yeah, that's fair. But
six, I mean he was new. Addition and him were large, and
especially his solo career was large.Yeah, like he should definitely least be
in the top hundred. Oh god, wow, I don't even know who.

(01:23:25):
Go ahead, and I'm just like, wow, but go ahead.
I don't even know who. Oneninety five is fall New Big Prince pr
I n Z. Yeah, I'meven sure. It's one of the fall
cranked out of slew of post punkgems in the nineteen eighties, with Mark
E. Smith presiding as the hippriest, the caustic Manchester get who took

(01:23:46):
pride and terrorizing fans and bandmates alike. Okay, so you are critics,
darl, now here to me iswhere they really? This proves how up
their ass they are. Jess.One ninety four. Yeah, the Bengal
you know this, you know thesong? I say, let her get
there. I don't know I knowthem, I do know them? Well
yeah, first of all, yeah, okay, so yeah the Bengals with

(01:24:12):
song I've never heard of, Herotakes a Fall? Which you ever heard
of that song? No? Yeah, they're trying to you know. Oh.
It was the breakout hit from theireighty four album All Over the Place
No Walk Like an Egyptian. Ohthat was their number. That was That
song was number one for like mostof nineteen eighty seven like that song before
it was before that by like eightyseven eighty eight. I think they were

(01:24:35):
onto like Eternal Flame. It wasthe same album with a turn with Manic
Monday. Manic Monday Prince wrote forbecause he was like, hey, let
me let me hit that and thatwas like I think Many Monday, Eternal
Flame and uh Walk like an EgyptianWe're all from the same album. I
don't know it just to me,it just feels like fucking or it feels

(01:24:56):
I watched Nick Rocks that was like, what do you think the they think
of all their hits? All theirhits were in nineteen eighty six. I
think so, I guess I couldstill have some residual fucking heat left over
from if they they had some liketop forty hits and eighty six, they
could still be getting radio. RememberNickelodeon had Nick Rocks. They basically sanitized
MTV for little kids. That's howI watched all my videos as well.

(01:25:18):
Is it kids Incorporated? Oh yeah, dude, I knew that's that's Fergie
Mario Lopez was on that. Uhwho else was on there? Uh?
Fergie Mario? Uh? Oh,what's it? Martika was on there?
The Toy Soldiers chick. Yeah.Yeah, that was like the Mickey Moscow
for the Mickey Mouse Club, atleast in the nineties anyway, Yeah,

(01:25:41):
one ninety three, Ah Jesse,you did the band? Yes, nope,
you know that, you know,and it's that's on me time.
Yes, that's sure really their onlyhit in America, Yes, but way
way too low on the list,Like that song was every where. That

(01:26:06):
song in that video. Yes,the video was basically an homage to a
Ken Russell film called Altered States thatI think William Hurt. That was his
first major film, and they hada scene in that movie where he was
slamming himself into the walls walking downthe hallway. So hence you have to

(01:26:30):
see the movie to understand it,switching between a de evolutionized version of a
human and his current self, Andthey basically used that and they switched it
from the animated version of the singerhitting the wall too he would turn into
the real version of himself and thenblah blah blah blah blah. But I
mean, that song in that videowas so popular that movie came and went

(01:26:51):
that that video made that movie popularlike two three years later, And this
is before the Internet, so peoplehad to go, what the fuck is
that scene from I've seen it somewherebefore, hunt it down, and then
turn it into a cult classic basedon that video. That's how ubiquitous that
fucking song and the video was allthrough throughout what from the minute to come

(01:27:15):
out till the eighties were over.Even in the nineties, you had bands
like Real Big Fish still covering thatsong and having hits with it, and
I enjoyed their cover. I likeThird Wave Sky for what it was,
dumb, stupid fun right, Butthe two tone scott Ors, the real
scholars, Schollers, don't want todon't agree with me, so whatever,
neat shit. Never heard of Wideb Nope, one ninety, come on,

(01:27:43):
Leonard Cone, Tower of Song,I'll take Manhattan, Hallelujah. These
I think all come out in eightyeight or in the eighties. That's ridiculous.
Yeah, uh, never heard ofone ninety. I remember them being
I thought they were Jungle Brothers wereThere was a lot of producer groups brothers
in the eighties early nineties. Therewas the Dust Brothers, Jungle Brothers,

(01:28:05):
Chemical Brothers. They're in there somewhereabout one eight nine, Falco there's no
way she knows that dope. Uh, it's rock dam a dais because there's
no other Falco songs. Yeah,the commissaars in town. Don't tell Turk
that U one eight eight never heardof him? Like a normal I walk

(01:28:30):
alone John Anderson. I know JohnAnderson sleeping for the eighties. If you're
gonna pick a John Anders, youpicked swinging. Yeah, his country swing.
He was the one keeping in astyle that had died off in the
like forties and fifties and maybe thetip of the very beginning of the sixties,
and like some deep parts of Texas, but like Texas swing had died

(01:28:54):
off. And uh, I justsaid the name of his band. I
can't remember what What the fuck ishis name of his band? That's not
in his right up, damn itjust as John Anderson. Damn, I
gotta look up a minute. Maybehe wasn't in Sweethearts. I thought he
was in Sweethearts of the Rodeo.Is his brother Don Anderson? Is that

(01:29:15):
what I'm who? I'm getting themconfused? Well I'm beating I mean a
jackass. Oh well it could couldbe anyway, It's not important. I
do know who he is. Andit's like one eighty six never heard of
him? Won't get face? Thatis a full on e racer fade all
the way to the left. Uh, well, okay, this is millennials.

(01:29:40):
Millennials, why do you love thissong? Toto? Jess Toto,
Oh the Africa tucking exactly? Ohthey have way. First of all,
Toto looked at kind of lame byat least when you're like a teenage guitar

(01:30:01):
player, you're not really especially inthe nineties, Total was definitely viewed as
kind of like corporate rock. Butas you get older and you appreciate them
for what they were and you findout they're all monster session musicians. Wait,
really, I feel like rich.I feel like Rosanna was everywhere when
when we were younger, Rosanna andhold the Line and Africa was like,
oh, that's one Africa is thethat's the early eighties version of their power

(01:30:30):
ballad. Like if they were alate eighties band, they'd have released their
rock tune, their power ballad,then their next rock tune, and then
they would have milked any ballads theyhad off the rest of the album.
You know what I'm saying. Thatwas so like so Africa, like like
Rosanna come Out. I think no, I think hold the line come out,
right. I think that was theirfirst hit, Rosanna come Out,
and then Africa come Out, andAfrica was more like the mainstream hit Africa.

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If you know who liked Africa,you're the same, the same chicks
who like Abracadabra by Steve Miller,but they're like his older Stuff's all right,
But I really like that Abricadabra song. It's like, okay, all
right, which by the way,is not on this list. I think
it's a good thing. But okay, now number one eighty four, I'm
gonna give Jess a chance. ButI got a lot to say about this,
Okay, Jesse, if you've heardof this band in excess, heard

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of yes, Okay, can youname any songs by them? Absolutely?
Okay? Well, they picked neverTear Us Apart. I feel that is
revisionist history. But here's the deal. That is their best song ever.
I get it, but it's asfar as and it was a hit.
Yeah, But I feel if yougot to ask me to peg down one

(01:31:38):
song from that defines them from thatdecade, it's need you tonight see here
for me, this is the songthat defines them from this decade. If
I have them on any playlist,this song is a must. Anything else
is whether I'm making a playlist forI'm in the mood to hear anything else
of theirs, but for me,for to me, just need you.
Tonight was everywhere everywhere when it cameout. A lot of inexcess shit was

(01:32:02):
everybody. You don't realize how manyfucking xcess songs were everywhere until you listen
to them and go Jesus Christ likethey just kept having hits from like the
mid eighties into the mid nineties.I just didn't stop. But all right,
we got to pick up the pacer. We gotta jump, I say,
we fucking do it jump here,because there's a lot of fucking shit.
She hold on. There's there's acouple I want to get to and

(01:32:23):
in the first ten that I wantto be like, what the fuck?
Uh uh okay, which why dowhat? Rush on the list? By
the way, Spirited Radio. Really, I'm not gonna go with Tom Sawyer,
but uh let's see it because youhave to. Okay. One seventy
five the police, Jess, haveyou heard of the police? I've heard

(01:32:45):
of the police. I know thatthey have a song that I would know,
like a very very common song.Yeah, because it's the one that
Puffy sampled, Which, all right, rich you you seem to like,
I like the Police, but youseem to like love the Police, Like,
what do you think they picked whenthe world is running down? No,
I mean, if you're gonna gofor the Police for the eighties,

(01:33:06):
it's every breath you take, right, it has to be either that or
don't stand so close to me.Yeah, because Roxanne was seventy nine and
I think Walking on the Moon wasseventy nine also, which maybe maybe you
could get away with, like everylittle thing she does is magic. King

(01:33:26):
of Pain I think is too deep. It's not Yeah, it's not poppy
enough. It's one of those songsthat like the soccer moms in minivans skip
over on the Greatest Hit CD,whereas like I skip to King of Payne,
they skip over King of Payne.And also, can we talk about
how one of the biggest bands ofthe first half of the decade is at
one seventy five? Like the Policewere large the few years they were active,

(01:33:49):
and there it was, there's okayto explain to people who did not
live through it. The Police werejust mammoth and kept going, and you
just kept hearing about all these rumorsabout how explosive and temperamental everybody was behind
the scenes, and then they justfucking like there was the blow up.

(01:34:10):
Then they released their last album,and then Boom Sting had a solo career,
and I don't even think a lotof people understood that they weren't listening
to the Police anymore, or theyjust assumed, oh, Sting just he
just changed the name of the bandfrom the Police to Sting, you know
what I'm saying, Because it's likehis career was just Sting was just constantly

(01:34:32):
throughout the eighties. So unless theyput his solo career separate on this list,
yeah, yeah, the Police shoulddefinitely be higher. And also the
Police should be higher than his solocareer in the eighties. Anyways, Yeah,
his respect, he's not in thehe's not in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame because of If IEver Lose My Faith in You, which

(01:34:55):
is one of my favorite songs.But he ain't in there for that.
He's in there for fucking everything hedid with the two guys. He can't
stand. Yeah, no, andif you read Stuart Copeland what he even
says about it, He's like,he's like, there's no animosity. Like
as people, we all love eachother. He's just as musicians we just
became very different. He's like,he's like, I'm a fucking I'm a

(01:35:15):
whirlwind, I'm a tornado. Andhe didn't he he doesn't need that as
his drummer. No, he's becomea perfectionist. He wants every single thing
to be fucking nope. Perfect.It's like, Okay, that's cool.
And when I listen to music that'slike that, I'm in the mood to
listen to music like that. ButI also sometimes want to throw on the
stooges and listen to fucking like we'reall power yeah, or you know,

(01:35:38):
I'm not you know, I wantto be your dog something like that.
And that is out of tune,tempo all over the place, not recorded
great, not noe perfect is theantithesis of note perfect. But they both
work, at least as a musician. I think, so I'm a search
and destroy guy, but I'm abasic bitch. Uh we're gonna move up
to fifty nine on the list.Uh, well, hey, before we

(01:36:00):
do that, Before we get intothis, I would like to go over
some names that are not on thislist that were like fucking everywhere. Richard
Marx is not on thist Wait,I knew one of his songs. Oh
I bet you did you have estrogenin your veins? I'm colored me shocked.
But yeah, I mean, I'mjust gonna say this real quick,

(01:36:23):
and a lot of these people goahead. I just want to say,
real quick, real quick. Iam a fucking Henry Rollins fan. I'm
not that huge of a black flagflan black flag fan. Say that three
times right without saying the getting canceledbad afford. Yeah, but they have
it one twelve. First of all, the fact they have black Flag on

(01:36:44):
this list is ridiculous. And theyhave Rise above And I'm just like,
okay, all right, I sure, okay, right, But and by
the way, a lot of theseartists I'm about to name, I don't
carry water for a lot of thesepeople. But I had ears and was
near a radio in the eighties.Like Richard Marx for example. Dude,
he's another guy back half of thedecade. His ship was everywhere. Uh

(01:37:09):
starship, starship is synonymous with badin eighties. Yeah, so I mean,
like about music that dominated the eighties. They also had two of their
highest starting hits in the eighties,Like, they're both of those songs I
remember being Everywhere we built this cityand the fucking Mannequin one We're fucking everywhere.
Uh Rich, This this is fromthe come on are you serious?

(01:37:31):
File? Huey Lewis is not onthis list. Yeah, that's this is
This is hipster, fucking revisionist historyis what this ship is. So all
right, let's just let's just geton with this ship, because I'm already
starting to like lose interest at thispoint because I know what's coming. It's
kind of like if you lead offwith your politics, you can just stop
talking because I know everything you're gonnasay and I'm totally not interested in it.

(01:37:55):
Well, I'll just plow through therest of the names not on this
list. Rick Astley, Rick Springfield, John Mellencamp, you B forty Survivor,
Jay Giles, Olivia Newton, JohnJohn Lennon, Tom Petty, The
Arrhythmics, Brian Adams, Steve WynnWould, Phil Collins, Chicago, Kenny

(01:38:15):
Loggins, Dire Straits Ario Speedwagon,Judas priest Heart, mister mister Christopher Cross.
Men at were Barbers, dreisand IronMaiden, Ozzie Stevie Wonder, who
had his highest charting hit in theeighties. Uh, We Are the World
is not on this list, rich, How huge, how ubiquitous was We

(01:38:36):
Are the World when it was out? Not only that, but I mean,
if you really want to get downto it, you could probably even
go with the one that came outof Europe. I can't remember what that
one was that was you and probablyI think Christmas one, Yeah, band
Aid, the one We're gonna hearfucking for the next month. Yeah,
I think that was a larger cellarworldwide, maybe not in America, but

(01:38:56):
I mean one of those two hadto be the eight Oh god, you
remember the hair metal one. Wewatched it on one of the shows back
in the day and we fucking fellthe fuck out. Man. Even even
this was during the stoic period forAaron, and even he was cracking up
at this shit. I think itwas for fucking rockers who were losing their

(01:39:17):
hearing and it's all fucking like nitroand fucking like, oh my god,
I can't even remember like like dangerdanger like bands it's like, oh Jesus,
like bands at Todd wouldn't even listento they were hair metal, you
know. All I gonna say aboutWe Are of the World as it came
out in nineteen eighty five and hadMichael Jackson on it. Yeah, Like

(01:39:42):
all right, so get back tothe list. Bruce Springsteen, have you
heard of this man, Jason?I have yes that they picked the song
Atlantic City from the album Born inthe Usa. Right, it's dumb his
eighties output as much as I likeSpreensteam and Born in the USA was like
one of the first few albums Ibought, like I bought and I don't

(01:40:04):
he hasn't held up. Well,Wow, they really went nuts. He
really went nuts. His band reallywent nuts with the synthesizers and shit in
the eighties. Yeah, I'd gotto say, I'd say yeah, Born
in the USA is probably the mostGlory Days. See. The reason I
don't say Glory Days is because GloryDays was supposed to be a throwback to
like the sixties as it was,and sound Born in the USA sounds like

(01:40:29):
the eighties. Yeah, I'll giveit that. Yeah, because yeah,
especially because of the synth intro.Yeah, moving up to number fifty,
Like just saw this band love thesong, but Metallica Master of Puppets,
that song was nowhere in the eighties. Your your metal friends knew that,
your my cousins like had that,Like, yeah, the Master Puppets was

(01:40:54):
not known. No, the kid, the kid that wasn't visibly retarded,
but rode the short bus and hewent to the fucking classroom at the end
of that weird hallway and he neveryou never saw him. You just saw
him getting out and off the shortbus. That had a leather jacket or
like a jean jacket with a metalup your ass patch on the back.

(01:41:14):
That's the one dude in your schoolwho knew fucking Metallica back then. Okay,
don't let people bullshit you. Itwasn't like whole schools were full of
fucking metal heads rocket Metallica T shirtsin nineteen eighty six. That's not how
the fuck it was. In fact, I'd say the only fucking song Metallica
got radio played with in the eightieswas one. Yeah, and I did

(01:41:35):
you saw someone a Metallica T shirtin the eighties, you like walked on
the other side of the street oryou were like, dude, because you
know who. Yeah, what's yourfavorite? Bro? Just my favorite?
Oh yes, and the next thing, you know, because it was back
then that's how you made friends.But yeah, like I get it,
I get it. You saw strangerthings, but yeah, like revisionist history.

(01:41:58):
Forty I just want to say,be real quick about it. Forty
nine Chaka Khan, come on,it should be I feel for you.
Not whatever this song is I've neverheard of. Let's see here, okay.
Forty seven hold on, hold on, okay, Jess, have you
heard of the Beastie Boys? Youheard of? Yes? Are they the
party people? There? You goRich, She's made the point before you

(01:42:20):
even need to make it. Yeah, it just hurts me that this is
my kin, don't Yeah, Iheard other Beastie Boys? Are they to
party people? That? That hurtme a lot because like this is there's
one of the Beastie Boys. They'reone of my bands that like people.
If you really know me, ifyou really know me, you know I
really love the Beastie Boys. LikedBoy Bullionnaires. Okay. First of all,

(01:42:45):
Yes, Paul's Boutique is the artisticallysuperior album of the two that were
released in the eighties by them.But if I say Beastie Boys eighties to
anybody but a Beastie Boys fan,they're gonna say something off of Licensdale.
They're gonna say They're most likely're gonnasay the Party People, the Party song.

(01:43:06):
Yes, so this is complete,this whole list complete revisionist history.
Well, like, if you werelike, if you were conscious in the
eighties and you just paid attention tothe mainstream, the Beastie Boys came out
with Fight for Your Right and thenyou didn't hear from him again until Sabotage
came out. Yeah, pretty much, and that was in the nineties.
Maybe if you were an avid MTVwatcher, you remember the month or two

(01:43:30):
they were pushing the video for HeyLadies in nineteen eighty nine. Maybe that's
it, that's the that's that's theextent of the Beastie Boys fucking exposure to
to to the top forty in theeighties. But sure right, let's jump
ahead to forty one. Yes,a little band out of Ireland called You
Two. Have you heard of them? Yes? The live version of their

(01:43:51):
song bad Really You Two? Inthe eighties, this is what you pick
as they're defining song. Never mindyou have I don't know their entire catalog
of all of their hits to choosefrom, because that's when they were huge.
Yeah, I mean, dude,they're gonna they're pulling it from a
live album and they're not even pullingit from Rattling Hum exactly whatever, And

(01:44:15):
I get it. I get it. The fucking critics and the fans aren't
big fans of Rattling Hum, sothat gets shipped on blah blah blah blah.
But still it's like, let's notact like Rattling Hum wasn't huge compared
to Wide Awake in America. Gee, did they releave a release a concert

(01:44:35):
slash documentary film about that concert intheaters? I don't think so. I'm
really hired. Well, this isyou know what this you know what this
list does to me. I'm tiredof fucking people who weren't alive, and
not only not alive, but justhave no connection whatsoever to previous time periods

(01:44:57):
telling people like me who were thereand lived through it, what ship was
really like. And that's all thisis. Dude. Could you imagine gen
Z doing this to millennials in tenyears telling them what the best panic at
the disco song was, or whateverfucking white belt fucking emo band, what
their best song was, or howthey just flat out sucked and were never

(01:45:20):
any good dude, there'd be bloodrunning. It be calls for blood to
run in the streets online. Yeah, this is shipping all over fucking basically
boomers, which it really is,and shipping Oliver gen X. But please
continue to wallow in your ignorance Millennials. It's amusing at this point. Yeah,
thirty nine, Jesse, have youheard of the clash? Can you

(01:45:41):
name a clash song? No?The Spanish bombs come again? This is
another one, like about rock thecas bomb didn't Should I stay or should
I go? Come out? Inthe eighties yep? Come on? All
right? Uh yeah, god,all right. Five when mister David Jones

(01:46:01):
the rest of the world knew MissDavid Bowie. I know, eighties Bowie
not the greatest, but if you'repicking a song that defines eighties Bowie ashes
to ashes. To be fair,he's he makes an appearance with Queen with
under Pressure way down near two hundred, which that's another conversation, but I
mean it's kind of it should beLet's dance, right if we're going with

(01:46:21):
eighties Bowie is maybe Modern Love.I hate saying that, but no,
I here's what about China Girl.Here's the thing. I don't give a
fuck about that album except for Stevieray Vaughn was on it. That's it.
And I'm not a huge Bowie fan, but I'm a big enough Bowie
fan. But I'm also a veryweird boy fangs. I like his stuff
in the nineties with Trent Rosners.There you go. Yeah, and I

(01:46:44):
like and I like some Tin Machinebecause I like Reeves Gabriel, the guitar
player in that band. So thereyou go. If I was gonna say
eighties Bowie, I would say ModernLove or Let's Dance, and with Let's
Dance being the popular choice, modernLove being more of the what I would
think would be the critics musician choice. Whatever. All right, twenty eight
talking Heads? Have you heard ofthis band? Jess? Can you name

(01:47:09):
a Talking Head song? No?Rollings, don't pick this must be the
place again? Rich? This isreally this is what you're going with.
At least it's a song that wasknown like this was a single. I
remember this being on the radio,I remember people, I remember hearing it.

(01:47:30):
Some of these picks that they've gonefor these more obscure ones. I'm
like, this wasn't even a single. I don't think so. No,
it's running down the House or it'sIt's, It's And then she was right,
like those songs weren't. Yes,there's you listened to right, classic
rock stations, there's still everywhere.Well, you gave me the heads up
that the talking Heads were on thislist, pretty high up, and but

(01:47:53):
the song was like booty, andso I was thinking maybe it was gonna
be like Wildlife mm hmm or ohshit, like and then she was something
like that, like like one ofthose but this must be the place,
like, yeah, wildlife, yeahfor eighties? Yeah, dude, that
wasn't that the video with the bigsquare suit? Or was that Wildlife?

(01:48:15):
Was the video with John Goodman fromthe It was it was from a movie.
I can't remember the name of themovie, but he was he was
in it, and Melanie Griffith wasin it. Shit, I can't remember
the name of the movie. Itmight have been Wildlife twenty seven. No
chance Jess knows this, but RichBig Daddy can't. That's not even his
biggest song. Ain't no half Stepping? Yeah, but you go the hood,

(01:48:38):
that's the one the hood knows,that's the one of the hood is
gonna fucking shout out. That's forreal, all right, Like that still
gets half step no half stepping you, half stepping you, half stepping motherfucker
Like that still gets used to thisday. So fair enough. That's yeah.
Twenty five, jess, if youheard of Depeche Mode, Yes,
enjoy the silence. There you go, Okay, Rich didn't Violator come out

(01:49:01):
in eighty nine? Yeah? Yeah, why what they just can't get enough?
Some song from nineteen eighty two.Violator came out in nineteen eight.
Violator is like their Greatest Hits compilation, Like every thing that came off that
album was a fucking hit. Justcan't get Enough is like their early hit.
The people who like first album Ministrylike that song better than any of

(01:49:27):
the late eighties Depeche Mode. Sothere you go. If you know what
I if you know people who listento first album Ministry, you know the
people I'm talking about. I mean, like, enjoy the silence fucking really
personal Jesus. Yeah, like justa policy of true anyway. Uh,
all right, twenty two this isthe decide for me and rich for the

(01:49:48):
Pet Shot Boys. This is whatyou pick some song they did with Dusty
Springfield. Okay, can we stopwith this? Bulls? The only thing
the Pet Shot Boys did in theeighties and anyone gave a fuck about in
like the Top like forty was wasit? West Girls? Yeah? West

(01:50:09):
End Girls well too. They alsothey had the remember they did You're always
on my mind? If you didthe Willie Nelson song. A bunch of
people did it in the eighties.I must say I must have blocked that
out. And you can go asmany roller rinks as me. Apparently not
at that point. Bye. Byeighty seven, oh yeah, I was
done with that shit. Twenty NewOrder, Jess, have you heard of
them? I have not. Richarddidn't fucking what. It didn't come out

(01:50:34):
in eighty seven, the one BizarreLove Triangles. Yeah, and I'm thinking
in Blue Monday, well yeah,same album. Yeah, that's if I
think a New Order, that's whatI think of. Yes, yeah,
like, okay, we don't needto talk about them, but let's just
okay. Grace Jones at nineteen Gracej Yeah, Grace Joch be on this

(01:50:56):
list. Susie in the Banshees listenvery influential in certain music circles. Her
influence and her band's influence reached outfrom the usual suspects and even found itself
creeping into other styles of music thatyou wouldn't have thought. However, No,
she was not no dominating the chartsin the eighties. That was enough

(01:51:19):
number eighteen Yeah, and her biggesthit didn't happen until nineteen Yeah. Kissed
them for me. Wait, thankyou for visiting Christopher Media Dott, thank
you for visiting Christopher media dot net. Seventeen Jesse heard a band called am

(01:51:44):
Yes, little upstart band out ofGeorgia. Well, yeah, that's ninety
one. Most of their catalog isin need and they picked a song called
Sitting Still from nineteen eighty three.How about stand? How about Orange Crush?
Yeah, the one I Love theWorld in the world as we know
it or as you know it?You said, orange Crush. I know

(01:52:08):
there's a couple more in there.Yeah. Fuck I forget. I forget
their more artsy farts at college radiofriendly stuff in the eighties. But I
think radio Free Europe that would bethat could be a legit one because that
was that crossed over and actually gotsome fucking like mainstream heat, but it
was also a indie alternative critical darlingSo fourteen run dmc Okay, hold on,

(01:52:32):
I gotta I'm gonna get, I'mgonna get. I got a beef
on number sixteen. You know Iwas gonna bring it up. But rock
Camp I think Eric Okay, firstof all, airban rock Camp. I
think if it wasn't for them,rapp would not have matured as fast as
it did. If you go backand listen to rock Cam's flow off hit
their first album, Payden Full,he's one of the first dudes to not

(01:52:58):
do the that herky jerky emphasis onevery fucking syllable type rapping, and he
did more of the the laid back, smooth shit that set the fucking that
paved the road, that made theroad for guys like Snoop Oh. Was
he the first guy who was nothere to say yes yeah like yeah he

(01:53:19):
was. He was very much.And he was also the first one to
bring up like to bring up spiritualityoutside of Jesus God. He was interjecting
like just he was. He isan embsce's EMBc. In my opinion,
rock em is the all around greatestEMBc to live because lyrically, flow wise,

(01:53:45):
his his rhyme patterns, all ofit. You literally look at hip
hop and go before Rockham and afterrock Him. And that's the same criteria
I used for guitar players or anyother musician, and for them to pick
I know you got soul, youdon't sweat the technique, payd in full.
Those I would pick over I knowyou got a soul. But that's

(01:54:08):
just me. But I'm surprised,and I having said all that about Eric
being Rockhamp, no way do theyneed to be sniff in the top fifty
right of the eighties, the topfucking one fifty, They don't need to
be sniffing. I never even heardof them till the nineties. They were
influential, and they were known incertain circles, but if you weren't in
the hood, or you weren't pluggedinto that music, you didn't you didn't

(01:54:31):
know who the fuck they were.I guess if you had an ear for
music, you would be like,oh, I heard that one song in
Colors because they were on the Colorssoundtrack. That's it. That's as close
to like mainstream success that I reallythink. Eric being rockham had in the
eighties outside of like the what urbanmusic charts whatever they call them back there,

(01:54:53):
But okay, fifteen, I agreewith I don't agree with replacement right
now that that song was operator everywhere. Yeah, for years. That's don't
come out in eighty four, andit was still being played as if it
was a fucking top twenty five,top forty hit two years later, in
nineteen eighty six. I clearly rememberthough, anywhere you could buy a fine

(01:55:14):
pair of slacks, you can hearthat song. Okay, So now we're
back to fourteen. Jess has heardof run DMC, right, I I
know one of their songs. Iknow every word but song Christmas and Hollis.
It's Christmas time in Hollis, Queen'smom cooking and in college. Probably

(01:55:39):
a better choice than Sucker M SuckerMC's Yeah. No, it's gotta be
tricky. It's tricky. Walk orwalk this way, Peter Piper, my
Adidas, Piper, my Adidas.For sure. If you want to get
like walk this may be in acover I say, disallowed it, but
like you go like even Raisin HellKing's a rock dude, Go back and

(01:56:00):
listen to a lot of the fuckingrap rock, especially kid Rock's early output,
mostly before Devil without a Cause,but even on some of the first
of all, Devil without a Causeis basically almost a complete ripoff of Tougher
or Toughest Leather. So go backand listen to those two songs next to
each other, and you're like,what the fuck Well, I mean,

(01:56:21):
run DMC, that guitar with therap that influenced so many people beyond just
that time in the eighties, andthat's not represented in Sucker m scenes,
not like it was in their othersongs. And Sucker MCS wasn't fucking played
all the time. And that's theother thing. Yeah, thirteen, I
think just has improved my point.JESF. Do you know who the cure

(01:56:42):
is? Yes? What can youname a cure Songriday I'm in Love?
Okay, not proving my point,but you know the cure is? That
isn't it is an eighties cure song. It's nineteen eighty nine and Friday I'm
in Love. No, I feelthat came out like when I was in
middle school, which would have beenin the nineties, Like I remember like
watching the video on MTV and sure, or is this one of those things

(01:57:03):
that got re released a few times. No, you're right ninety two.
Yeah, but what am I thinkingfrom the eighties, and if from the
eighties, if I'm picking a Curesong just based on remembering where it was
all the time, it's fucking lovesong, dude. That song was fucking
everywhere. That song was played onradio stations. My mom listened to like

(01:57:26):
when I was a teenager and foundout what The Cure was. Oh shit,
that's who this is. I neverknew. Yeah, I can.
I can agree with that. Andalso it's like The Cure is one of
those bands that like, what arewe talking about? Are we talking about
their radio hits, because it's completelydifferent from their fucking their core fan base,
their core fan base. I'm surethey love the radio hits, but
they're probably like, I could gowithout every here, and just like Heaven

(01:57:46):
was not a radio hit, Justlike Heaven was like, uh, like
your cousin who was in college?That was like the Cure, that's that
that was like that level of deepnessas far as my opinion, Okay,
Jes number twelve n w A,No, what that's surprising. There was
a movie know who NW fucked thepolice. NWA the movie straight out of

(01:58:13):
Compton NWA. I no, Itold him I heard your feelings. Wow,
that's just shocking. Just how doyou not run it? That's your
Caucasian is showing yes, no it. She married in. She's one of
us by injections, she's not natural. She's not she's not real like like

(01:58:34):
like it's okay, she can bewhite. It's just like but rich for
you to have not heard of nwA as like a seventeen year old that
told the seventeen year old told me, I've never who are the Beatles?
What are they? Right? I'mjust going, how the fuck have you
not heard of the Beatles? Rich? Though, Let's talk about this though.
I think their songs looking them upat twelve no way, no way,

(01:58:58):
too high. This is only lookingback, hindsight being what it is,
and trying to fit history into howyou feel about that decade now And
yeah, no, it's if youlook into the history of radio and television
and the explicit lyrics label, thereis no way this was ever played on
radio. Express yourself. There wasthere. It was MTV hit it what

(01:59:24):
even a radio hit? Okay,eleven no way? Janet Jackson Nasty at
eleven, I do not there's again. This is another artist you have the
entire decade because that's where all ourhits were. Yeah, but you got
to pick for me, either controlor Rhythmnation. Janet Jackson is another one
of those artists. It's like,if you really know me, you really
know I like a certain era ofJanet Jackson, Like she's got a tenure.

(01:59:46):
I think from like ninety or twothousand, excuse me, from eighty
six to ninety six to maybe ninetyseven. But what else are you gonna
put in there? That's the waylove goes. That's a ninety so on
Rhythm Nation. It was a bighit, but it wasn't her biggest hit.
I feel there's songs off of Rhythmhold on, let's look up the
track listing for Rhythm. I listenedto enough of her fucking shit, right,

(02:00:11):
I should be able to remember allher eighties. You know you were
such a fucking Jana Jackson Booster dude. She was like one of my first
crushes when I was a little littlekid because I saw her on Oh Fuck,
how am I Forgetting Good Times?Oh Yeah, fuck you? Escapade
and Miss You Mutch are on thisalbum. I would pick both of those
over Nasty. Okay, so especiallyas far as how much they were playing

(02:00:38):
or at least miss you much,miss you mutt. Oh Jesus Christ,
that song was played so much.I think her best album is Rhythm Nation
in eighteen fourteen. That's just myopinion. But Control's got a lot of
hits. When I think of you, big hit, Let's wait a while.
Well, okay, the pleasure principle. When I think of you,

(02:00:59):
what have you? Okay, firstof all, what have you done for
me lately? Yeah? That's it, We're done. Should Eddie Murphy did
what one fifth of his show rawabout that fucking song basically base and it
became an instant classic. That's hurtto me. That's the definitive. Janet
Jackson eighty song Oh for Me Lately? And I forgot about that one now

(02:01:20):
was on the roller rink. Thatwas definitely the rotation. I'm sorry,
miss Jackson, because you know I'ma nasty man. I know it's mostly
pissed. I don't give a fuck. Come see, I was about to
come around to your way of thinkingwith the choice of song, because like,
yeah, it's pretty Her whole catchphrasecomes from that song Janet and Miss
Jackson, if you're nasty? Allright? Start top ten? First of

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all, No way this band shouldbe near the top ten. The Smiths.
Okay, I'm starting to think we'reshowing a very American bias here.
I think if you go outside ofAmerica, the Smiths need to be you
can make an argument, not maybea good one, but you could make
an argument for them to be inthe top ten. Okay, Fine,
there's a light that never goes out. No way, this is how soon

(02:02:05):
is now? Yeah? Period ofthe story, because that was a hit
all over the fucking place. Yes, we set it together unprompted. That's
how much we agree on that.Uh, here we go, number nine,
Kate Bush running up that hill andgo rich, it's going to be
rant from earlier. I can't evenremember. I just Kate Bush was not

(02:02:28):
this big in the eighties. AndI have nothing against Kate Bush at all
whatsoever. Like I barely knew thissong, and I knew this as being
her from that time period, andI knew the song better from the Placebo
cover from like the late nineties earlytwo thousands. Kate Bush started getting her
come up into when alternative quote unquotealternative music started becoming a thing. That's

(02:02:53):
where she started bubbling up. Likepeople like I didn't hear her like the
nineties. She was not all overthe radio in the eighties. I get
that the people who made this listsaw stranger things and think this song is
cool. But that's like rich shesaid, this is the revision is history.
No, it was absolutely revisionous.It is not the ninth biggest song

(02:03:14):
of the eighties, no fucking waynot. It's not even the ninety ninth
biggest song of the eighties. It'snot even one hundred and ninety ninth biggest
song of the eighties. It shouldn'teven be on this list. And to
be fair like I, even thoughthe bulk of her materials recorded in the
eighties, I guess is considered herbest. I think she got her most

(02:03:35):
exposure after it after the nineties started, because that's when she started getting spind
Because MTV introduced one hundred and twentyminutes, they started doing what they call
in radio they call day partying,which is basically changing the format a little
bit from what your format is duringthe day at night by describing that right

(02:03:58):
Chris or My mangling that dead guestnight, the audience skewed younger. They'd
play like shit younger people would beinto more. Yes, Like here in
Detroit if you listen to Riff backin the day in the nineties, they
played more eighties late seventies music.Later at night, afternoon, after the
afternoon drive, they played a lotmore of the late eighties early nineties music.
During the day, they played shitfur their Dad. At night they

(02:04:20):
played Chip for You, Shit forYou, Yeah, and like Kate Bush
kind of after the b fifty two'sand kind of that, like alternative bubble
started to build into the nineties,Like that's when I started hearing about Kate
bushmore. I started hearing around radio. I heard around eighty nine X.

(02:04:40):
First time I heard Kate Bush onthe radio was on eighty nine X.
And if we're going by the math, that's at least nineteen what ninety or
ninety one? I think it wasninety one, So yeah, there you
go through the math, folks.Eight Duran Duran. First of all,
this is another one that if theone uh, if the one song rule

(02:05:03):
didn't apply, there would be manyyeah hungry like the wolf. I feel
like, I feel like the reflexmight be a better representation as far as
stuff that was played that you heardall the time. But I mean,
I guess I can be okay withHungry Like the Wolf, it was either
that a rio h Yeah, yeah, that's right. I had to block
that one out. I never wasa fan of That's not I will say

(02:05:25):
this. My sister never listens tothis podcast. I'm not even sure she's
aware of it, but growing upI used to just give her shit mercilessly
because of Jeran Duran, and Ihave to say this. Here's my public
apology, Brenda. I am sorry. At least the bass player in that
band is a lot better musician thanI ever gave them credit for back in
the day. And now I'm gonnaleave it at that. Here we go,

(02:05:49):
here come, here comes some bullshit. Number seven, The Go Gos.
Our lips are sealed, no ways. Do you have you heard of
the Go Gos? Yes? Thereyou go. Well, I guess you're
making our point for maybe revisionist history. But if you're going by airplay,
because we got the beat, that'sthe Go Go song that was fucking everywhere.

(02:06:11):
Vacation. Yeah, I know thatone too. It was from a
reres movie. Yeah, Our LipsAre Sealed was like shit, that like
that was considered like a deep track. If there's like a two for Tuesday,
you get to hear our Lips AreSealed. It wasn't like it wasn't
always played. I heard Our LipsAre Sealed more in the nineties than I
did in the eighties. Yeah,which might have something to do with it

(02:06:34):
be in place where it's all rightnow this one, this one, I
I can't really argue with her placementin the top ten. It's Whitney Houston
the back half of the decade justhuge. Do you know Whitney Houston?
Yes, okay, you don't knowher husband Bobby Brown. See this is

(02:06:54):
I feel where she's gonna know therest? Well, okay, well at
least heard of them hopeful, Yeah, okay. Now the song they picked
was how Will I Know? Really? Okay, but hold on huge hit
for really introduced her to a crossoveraudience, gave her her crossover audience.
But let's be honest, Whitney Houstonin the nineties, you only think of

(02:07:15):
one song, I Will Always LoveYou. Whitney Houston in the eighties,
I believe children. I hate thesongs done to our society, but yeah,
that it could be that song ortwo greatest Love of All. I
feel she had other songs off thisalbum that were played more like so emotional

(02:07:36):
or what was the fucking other one? Yeah, no, no, and
no, and there's the other onethat fucking everyone loves at weddings now that
I want to dance with Someboddy.I feel that was played more than I
feel. How Well I Know cameout, and yeah it was a hit,
but I don't feel it was likeas big as a lot of the
other songs we named. See howWill I Know is what got my grandmother

(02:07:59):
to buy Whitney Houston album, andmy mother to buy it Whitney Easton album,
and then my great grandmother to buya Whitney Houston album. So but
what sealed the deal was Greatest Loveof All. At that point between that
song and when she dropped I WillAlways Love You. All the women in
my family says it's the greatest singerof her generation. Done over. You

(02:08:20):
couldn't talk it, you couldn't nameanybody else. So that's why I'm saying
it. So that's I'm clearly admittingmy bias here, I still think the
greatest love of all has been putthat put that in social media up there,
one of the things that's going toundo our society. Okay, Number
five, Jess Public Enemy, canyou take a stab at any of their

(02:08:41):
songs? I am drying. Ihaven't. I mean, if you said
something, I might know it.But I can pull one out of thin
air. All right. First ofall, they picked Bring the Noise,
which really, yeah power, I'mthinking, okay, well, hold on,
hold on. First of all,I don't think anyone would pick Bring

(02:09:01):
the Noise if it wasn't for thefact that it was re released as a
cover slash re recording with Anthrax firstrap rock song in ninety one, Oh
Chili Peppers and Faith No More,and probably mister Bungle got something to say
about that, and then and thenJimmy Hendrix is gonna be like but Crosstown

(02:09:22):
Traffic. We already had that conversation. But here's the argument against. I
agree with you, because technically,technically, Fight the Power was released in
nineteen eighty nine on the Do theRight Thing soundtrack, but it did not
get released until Fear of a BlackPlanet come out, which didn't come out

(02:09:43):
until nineteen ninety. They didn't releaseit on their own album, so they
might be considering Fight to Power asa nineteen ninety song, which still why
is bring the Noise to one?They picked? But Night of the Living
bass Heads had more fuck an MTVplay I forget I should know this,
I forget, but the one thatstarts off I got a leather letter from

(02:10:05):
the government today said they were suckers. That one got a ton of MTV
play. What about uh uh nineto one one? That's a nine that
that come out with Fear of aBlack playing that come out summer in nineteen
ninety. Well, do you thinkPublic Enemy had the fifth biggest song of
the eighties? Rich, No,Public didn't have the fifth biggest career of
the eighties. To have the fifthbiggest song of eties, like the number

(02:10:28):
four is probably like the only no, it could probably be higher. But
as far as song pick to representartists for the decade, I agree with
you. Ever heard of a guynamed Michael Jackson Jess rings a bell Billy
Jean, which yeah for represent theeighties? Yes, like because he did

(02:10:48):
the moonwalk, he had the glove, he had the sidewalk that lit up
what I can't. I can't reallyargue with Billy Jean, but they could
have done Billy Jean or they couldhave done uh beat It, and I
think either one would have been exceptfor Thriller. The only the reason I
say not Thriller is because Thriller.Thriller wasn't even his biggest excess moment,
because you got to remember, likewhen Bad Come out, Dude, that

(02:11:11):
was I think wasn't didn't Martin Scorsesedirect that fucking goddamn video. He did,
and it had like Wesley Snipes init, and shit, I mean
like there's a lot more eighties excessthat reminded that It's more what do you
call it, Michael Jackson esque thanThriller. But Thriller was like the first

(02:11:31):
big time it was like, ohshit, Michael Jackson's gonna go way over
the fucking top. And then itjust became expected because every time he released
an album there had to be aten to fifteen minute video for a three
and a half minute song. Andwhy did that? You know what I'm
saying, Like, I don't know, it just anything off of basically any

(02:11:52):
of the hits off a Thriller youcould basically put on there, and I
think you can make an argument thatthat's representative of Michael Jackson in the eighties.
And you could even probably throw badon there, Yeah, and that
would I could say that's representative ofhim. And I still love both those
albums. I don't give a fuckdude. Like, by the way,
are you all about the Quincy Jonesproduction or you just love like the music

(02:12:13):
and everything altogether? Yes, okay, fair enough? Yeah, No,
I think Thriller production is a fuckingIf you've ever heard how he he spent
a week mixing each song on Thriller. That's dude, that's fucking sweet.
And I love the picture they usewith Mike in this article. Two.
By the way, he's still black. This guy's original nose, got that
bell pepper nose. Yeah, thishas got to be like eighty three ish

(02:12:39):
eighty four, like he and Mikeas a white boy who grew up with
a white boy version of that nose. I feel your pain, man,
she still ain't getting it sliced up, that's for damn sure. No,
this has gotta be pre Thriller becausehe had the nose job on Thriller.
Oh that's yeah. This is thisis This is like Off the Wall right
before. Yeah, this is Yeah, this is like between Off the Wall

(02:13:00):
and Thriller. Because he had Thriller, because I had the picture disc,
he had the new nose on Thriller. Yeah, this motherfucker Michael Jackson during
Off the Wall, if he tooka deep breath through his nose in a
small room, everybody else in thatroom would be in deep trouble. So
yeah, which, by the way, very underrated. Michael Jackson. Now,
like everyone talks about Thriller, fuckinggoes. If you like seventies R

(02:13:20):
and B, go listen to Offthe Wall, just number three. This
is not the third biggest song ofthe eighties, jess. If you heard
of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, here we go the message like this
isn't supposed to be like the toptwo hundred hip hop songs of all time
this or is supposed to be likethe top two hundred eighties songs. Like

(02:13:41):
this is not the third biggest songof the eighties. It's not. This
is millennials trying to rewrite history exactly. There's nothing else to say about it.
I wouldn't be shocked if this islike I could see this getting fucking
rubber stamps from a bunch of fuckingjen x if there are any fucking working
in any positions of note at RollingStone. Still, I get this reeks

(02:14:07):
of that type of This is whatwe wish we would have listened to back
then, because this is what coolpeople were listening to, but we weren't
cool. We really wish we werecool. I didn't hear the message till
I was in high school. NowI heard it. I heard it in
the eighties and it was It wasa hit. There was a Saturday Night
Live skit where was it Eddie Murphyand Joe Piscopoe. It started off they

(02:14:31):
were in the bathroom stalls and youjust see their feet and you hear them
start singing under the boardwalk. Andthen the little nerdy white guy from that
period of time with the glasses whowas in the Tim Kazinsky, Yes,
thank you. He was in thethe Why do I know that Police Academy
movies. Also he comes in andhe's like, don't push me because I'm

(02:14:54):
close, and he's rapping. Andthat's the whole joke, is the nerdy
white guy's rapping the black in theblack Guy and the young hip White Guy,
which Joe Piscopope, believe it ornot, was at one point in
America, We're singing under the boardwalk. So yeah, I mean it did
have some cultural fucking traction, butno nowhere near to be the top fucking

(02:15:16):
one hundred of this list. Allright, number two. And the only
way you could put it in thetop two hundred is if you're arguing for
influence, Jess, if you're anumber two, uh, young Angenoux from
the Detroit area, if you heardof a woman named Madonna, I believe,
So okay, what would you pick, like if Madonna in the eighties,
what would you pick? Either likea virgin or like a prayer?

(02:15:37):
God damn it, she said,like a prayer. Well, this just
proves our point that people younger thanus did this. But you're also proving
the point that rich and I nowwant to make. Like the first one
you said is what I think,like that when you think Madonna in the
eighties, you think like the materialgirl era. Like do you think material

(02:15:58):
girl? You think crazy for you? You you think like a virgin,
you think fucking holiday even like tome, like a prayer was like one
of her like one off hits atthe end of a decade. I don't.
I don't feel like a Prayer wasas huge as some of the hits
she had in the eighties or wasgoing to have in the future. I

(02:16:18):
feel like I saw it on liketheh one a lot. The only thing
I remember about Like a Prayer isreligious groups had their fucking undergarments and a
twist because there was like religious imageryin the video. Yeah, they she
cast a well whoever cast a blackactor basically as a stand in for Jesus

(02:16:46):
coming off the cross, and becauseshe kissed Jesus's feet and Jesus was a
black man, and she was dancingin the field and they were burning crosses
and she was doing a Pepsi commercialand Pepsi was like, no, we
can't have that, because you can'tmake Jesus black and can't have burning crosses.
I mean, look, yeah,Like a Prayer was Madonna probably warming

(02:17:07):
up to her most fucking controversial whichwould to me the epitome of Madonna's career
is Justify Your Love. But that'sa ninety song. But the reason I
say that is because it's a songnot written by her. It's written by
Lenny Kravitz. It's a song completelybuilt on parts of music sampled from other
people, and there's it's all sizzleand no steak. It's the promise of

(02:17:33):
ooh something taboo and it's just hertalking over a fucking drum beat. And
it's like, to me, I'mlike, that's Madonna. Madonna is more
mid as the kids would say toGarbage than she is hitting for average in
my book, for my money,give me express yourself for Vogue, you
know a h different shows. Wellfor me, it's like, I think

(02:17:56):
there's like three Madonna songs I couldget with, and I'm trying to think
bad Girl. It's like a ninetythree ninety two song. Uh not bad
Girl. That's I was in highschool. That was like senior year really,
so that was ninety five. Yeah, that was that was Yeah,
that was pre music, post JustifyMy Love whatever album that was, because

(02:18:18):
that was the one with the youth, the used to be my playground album.
That's the one oh Man that's comeout in ninety two. It come
off of Erotica album. And theonly reason I thought it came out in
ninety two is because of who directedit. Fuck it oh shit, brain
fart, God damn it. Fightclub Home, David Fincher, There we
go, Jesus, And it waslike I remember seeing this video and then

(02:18:41):
then I think I saw Aliens threeor Alien three that he directed, and
I was like, why does thislook like a Madonna video? Oh?
Same guy? Okay, makes sense. All right, Let's get on to
number one. Gentleman from Minneapolis Jess. Maybe've heard of him. His name
is Prince. What do you thinkof what yeah go ahead song from the
eighties? Yes? Do you thinkof when you think of Prince? Umm?

(02:19:03):
I can't think of the name.Maybe I'm just like my father,
thank you when doves cry? Yes, that is what this song should be.
They chose Kiss. It wasn't evena hit for him. It was
a hit for Tom Jones. Kisswas like one of those songs that came
up later, Like Kiss was notall over the radio in the eighties.
It was all about fucking Purple Rainand everything from that album. Dude,

(02:19:28):
I yeah, Kiss, I meanI remember it. It was a hit.
My mom liked it, all herfriends liked it. So that's type
of fucking people that this song wasresonating with. And it's I guess I
could see it, but I thinkit's a very fucking short sighted pick because
it's like, what are you goingoff of? Because there's it's not his

(02:19:50):
most influential song, It's not evenoff his most influential album from that decade.
I would say Purple Rain or nineteenninety nine is influential records he released
that decade, right, yeah,yeah, yeah, like nineteen eighty Jesus
Christ, there's like four singles offof that you could put in this place.

(02:20:11):
Yeah, and then you have PurpleRain, Let's go crazy, When
Does Cry? And I think WhenDoves Cry is honestly more representative of Prince
in the eighties because he did whatPrince did in the eighties that no one
else was doing, which was takingsome very weird chances, like deleting the
entire bass track from When Does Cry? There was no R and B songs

(02:20:35):
released in that around that time periodthat had no bass whatsoever. On Prince
put one out and it became ahuge hit. Space Player must have loved
playing that song every night. Allright, cool, I'm gonna go take
a piss. I'm sure the liveversion was changed up a little bit,
kind of like you know Queen withWe Will Rock You. But yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's uh,that's a list all right, and that
list is uh standalists a straight bootyas my man can Bernie Matthews to say,

(02:21:03):
Yeah, that list is bullshit.That list. Yeah, if you
were conscious in the eighties, you'rejust looking at this list and going,
what are you talking about? Likethis is like you said it, rich,
this is this is the list ofwe think, we wish, this
is what people listen to, andwe wish these were the biggest songs of
the eighties. That's this is awish. It's Christmas time, right,
everyone's making their their Christmas list.That's the Rolling Stone put out. We

(02:21:26):
wish these were the two hundred bestsongs of the eighties. A right pretty
much. And it's like, oh, okay, that's not realistic. It's
not reality. But you know what, you have a whole fucking you have
a whole bunch of people sitting aroundtaking in your content who will take your
word as the word of God.And the irony is it's easier than ever
to look it up and disprove it, but people won't. There you go.

(02:21:50):
Clouds have beneficially yelled at for anotherweek. We got anything else,
not unless you want to talk aboutyour who springle Can. But I just
saw the headline was a guy gotbusted for uh he pooped in a pringles
can, threw it in a parkinglot and his excuse was, oh no,
no, I drive a lot andI do that and that's just where

(02:22:11):
I threw it. And then theparking lot he threw it and just happened
to be an opponent. He's alawyer. He just his opponent. He's
gonna be facing a court in likefifteen minutes. We talked about a lot
of heavy shit, all kinds ofsting, you know, you know,
fuck it. I want to talkabout it because it's going on in Ireland
and I don't even want to getI'm not even want I don't even want
to get into the fucking inner workingsof Irish politics because I'm being honest with

(02:22:33):
you one, I don't know them. So why the fuck would I sit
here and act like I do andtry to tell you some shit that I
don't know what the fuck is goingon? But I can tell you this,
there's protest going on that led toI guess this is now not mostly
peaceful rioting, even though it lookslike the mostly peaceful rioting we saw in
twenty twenty year in America. Butit's because immigrants that have been allowed into

(02:22:56):
the country. One of them wenton a fucking knife attack and stabbed up
a bunch of children and women andkilled a couple and the media and everybody
over there for whatever reason, inIreland they handled it with kid gloves.
They wouldn't basically if you read thearticles, it was a person stabbed some

(02:23:18):
young people, or there was anunfortunate incident between a person a knife and
some young people, like just sofucking vague, and people are sick of
it because they're like, this isbullshit. You can't even fucking say that
they're an immigrant because that's racist.And also you're not doing anything about this.
So the Irish, who, bythe way, you guys want to

(02:23:41):
take a guess what the racial makeupof Ireland is tad wild, fucking guests,
white outside of white Oka. Firstof all, there's like I believe,
like around seven million people on thatfucking island. There ain't a lot
and they have brought in over onehundred and fifty thousand to two hundred thousand
immigrants to put on that island inthe last five to ten years. That's

(02:24:03):
a huge influx. Think about thatas percentage, and think about that influx
being injected into American cities. So, like I said, I don't know
the politics behind it, but Ido know how the idiots in the media
reacted to it, Like the douchebagon fucking Twitter or x who has had

(02:24:24):
this to say. On the twentyeighth of May in twenty twenty, I
saw some white folk on Facebook criticizingthe ongoing riots in the US relating to
the murder of George Floyd by police, saying they should be peaceful. Yes,
in an ideal world, But inan ideal world, a racist police
force wouldn't murder unarmed black people withalarming frequency. Okay, whatever, pretty

(02:24:48):
fucking standard galaxy brain take back.Then, Oh well, this was the
other day, same gentleman on Twitterslash x Today there was a tragedy which
involved a stab of children in DublinCity. Sick and inexcusable. That doesn't
excuse the scenes coming out of Dublintonight. Absolute feral animals who don't give

(02:25:09):
a single fuck about the victims,just looking for any excuse to loot and
burn. You said that about theSummer of Love, even if it wasn't
black people doing and looting and burning, you were called racist because you were
assumed to have been referring only toblack people. This man is literally referring
to white male Irish people. Ijust, yeah, no one cares.

(02:25:37):
Right, you'll care one day,by the way, where they provote,
when they provoke, when when theshit gets provoked to people are dying in
the streets over this shit, andit's people who otherwise would have never had
a beef with each other. It'llbe too late. But you can all
sit there in your fucking dumbfounded silence. Then I don't want to hear about
it. Then I don't want tohear about gun control. I don't want
to hear about knife control. Idon't want to hear about shit. Y'all

(02:25:58):
ain't doing a gun goddamn thing,And you haven't done a goddamn thing to
stop this shit. You've just stokedthe fucking fires of this bullshit to the
point where literally a country of ninetyeight percent white people, it's racist when
white people protest. Sure it's gonnaend well, by the way I put
the numbers that you gave in perspectivefor the United States, based on our

(02:26:22):
population, that would be like ninepoint eight million people. How many how
many is New York cities got allthese other how many of they shitting about?
How many York cities? About tenmillion people? Of the population of
the state we livest in about tenmillion people. I no know. What
I'm saying is what's the number offucking immigrants getting sent to these sanctuary cities
that weren't really sanctuary cities that they'rebitching about. It ain't nowhere near that

(02:26:46):
ten million, you know. It'sit's like the same number that you were
saying for Ireland. Like literally,Chicago was bitching about five hundred people dropped
off in a fucking neighborhood, fivehundred fucking a drop in the fucking bucket
ude a mid size touring band comingto fucking town. They were acting like
it was the end of the world. Let that percentage of the whatever,

(02:27:07):
right, you know what whatever.Just like and you go to New York
now and you listen to New Yorkand all these people who were like,
oh, we're with the immigrants,let them in now, they're like well,
they're in your backyard, and they'relike, get them the fuck out
of our neighborhood. Yep, nimbyhunh not in my backyard. I guess
all skin folks ain't kinfolk. Huh. People of color hard you gotta It's

(02:27:28):
a damn shame. You gotta learnthat lesson this way. Should have learned
it when Obama got put in officeand your people of color dayo of engines
didn't come. You didn't get yourwhite slave. It's not gonna happen.
Folks. You're being sold a dreamto keep you at the throats of people
who you have no beef with.You're bean played. There, go out
on that. There you go,happy chure. You know, Hey,

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