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Thank you for visiting Christopher media Dot. Thank you for visiting Christopher Media Dot.
That Welcome to Jen Exhausted. I'mChris, Chris, I'm Jess.
Since last week left, it's we'reminus one friend. I guess it was
the funny one. I didn't watchit, you guys did. Matthew Perry

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found that in the hot tub.Allegedly not illegal drugs found in the home.
But does that really mean anything.He's a fifty two year old guy.
Fifty two year old guys, don'tjust drop dead. This isn't the
nineteen fifties anymore. Like, Idon't know. They said he was playing
kickleball, which I don't know whatthe fuck pickleball. It's probably some bullshit
Hollywood thing. It's like, oh, some new stuff that we're all gonna

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do. But I mean, ifhe was doing some physical exercise, there
is a possibility at fifty two,a former cocaine addict, heavy drinker,
and prescription drug user could have aheart attack after some strenuous exercise. Well
for me to say it, well, for me, it's more doing that
and then sitting in the hot tub. Yes, like that could make your
heart go. What's going on?Right now. Oh absolutely. I mean,

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I mean, anyone with a heartcondition has been told to be careful
about heat, et cetera, etcetera, all that shit. I mean,
I don't know how this is yourspeculation on my part. Well,
even if even if you don't havea heart condition, you are not supposed
to sit in the hot tub foronly a half an hour, like it
is not good for your inside.Oh I'm glad. I've only been in
a hot tub like three times,and I was really drunk, so my
insides were pickled already, so right, my insides were like, we ain't

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worried about the hot tub. It'sthe poison he's pouring, honest that it's
got us worried. Yeah, it'swhat he did before he got in the
hot tub. Hot tub. Yeah, and the fucking hose beast. He's
gonna stick his dick in when hegets out, that we're worried about.
That's that's what we're worrying. Hisdick should be, Yeah, his dick
should be far scared. Yeah.But uh, like okay, friends,

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I mean it's well worn carpet onthis podcast over the years. You know,
we have a former co host whohalf a dozen times at least is
announced obviously an veriest episode of thatshow. I maintain I don't know how
you were straight in the nineties anddidn't at least stop when you're channel surfing
and see them permanent pitty hard onsthat fucking Jennifer Aniston had. But ironically,

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I think what I like Matthew Perrythe most from isn't even a fucking
movie or television show. It's hevoiced one of the fucking best characters in
Fallout New Vegas. And he theway he got that job was that he
played Fallout three, the game thatpreceded it, when it came out to
the point where he like developed CarpalTunnel. So he said that in an

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interview, and the designers of ofof Fallout Bethesda contacted him and were like,
would you like to voice a characterin the game, And he's like
yeah, and like he's kind ofthe one of the well really kind of
the catalyst for what kicks off theentire fucking story of the game. And
it's a pretty interesting character in it. I mean, if you played the

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Fallout universe, you know it's it'snutty anyways, but he's a pretty interesting
character in it, and that andthen that movie he was in with Selma
Hike. I can't remember the nameof it, and I know it come
out in the nineties schools Russian.Don't ask me why the fuck I know
that one because Selma Hikes and inthem tits you don't forget, Okay,
I'm just for that ass or thighsor anything else on that woman. You

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know that when you brought up apoint, you know why I didn't.
If the friends were perhaps maybe LatinArabic black, probably would have gotten me
more to in the nineties, gottenme to stop, like, hey,
look, it's a bunch of chickswith flat asses. Let me stop here,
I says nobody. I'm saying.I'm just saying Jennifern's don't have flat
ass. I've seen her naked.I'm just it ain't big, but it's

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bulbous. It's round. No onewas looking at her on friends for her
assject. I mean, once Igot done looking at her tits, I
checked out her ass. Yeah,I'm like the brothers, and you don't
need to be able to put adrink on it. That's just personal preference.
No, I got you. It'sit's like I said, it's like
with Seinfeld. Seinfeld never got muchplay in my household because I was raised,

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for the most part by three women. And when I wasn't there and
I was in state homes, youwant to take a guess the racial makeup
of most fucking youth homes in thecity of Detroit in the eighties and nineties,
Universe, say, and what Iwatched on TV? Okay, you
know what I say was, canI not get my ass beat and watch
this fucking show? Okay, there'sthat's to say? I was allowed to

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in a bunch of Jews and Asians? Is that? Is that? My
correct? Yes, that's exactly whatit was. No, trust, it
was like Harvard, there's a bunchof Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what
it was. But you, bythe way you have now you have tainted
my Seinfeld filter because now I gotcable again for football season, Comedy Central
apparently has that's all they do now. They run Seinfeld in the Office,

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the two shows that are always on. But I do watch Seinfeld now and
I'm like, this is white shit. However, I think it's funny,
and I'm like whatever, I'm Iam part white, So okay, but
I like how was the podcast hasgone on over the decade. It's like,
uh, you know, I ampart eleven now I'm part so you
know, I like some of that. You got to embrace the inner hockey.

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But uh yeah, I mean Ithink the biggest fucking thing with the
Matthew Perry story is that everyone's kindof shocked. But to be honest,
I think they're more shocked because howyoung he was, not that he was
the first to go. Let's behonest. I mean, I don't know
if you guys remember, but whenwe when when uh they did that Friends
reunion, and Earl watched it andwas talking about it. He said Matthew

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Perry was the one that looked theworst out of everybody. And I've seen,
like since he's died, I've seenlike, you know, little news
clips and stuff, and they showpictures of that reunion and he does look
awfully. Fucking Yeah, drugs andalcohol will beat the fuck out of you.
He's the only one, I mean, at a substance abuse problem.
For John Daly smokes and drinks whileplaying fucking golf and doesn't looked at disheveled

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as Matthew Perry did at a fuckingreunion. We're supposedly he was clean.
Now are you picking up what I'mlaying down? Like supposedly he's clean,
and he looks like he hasn't sleptin three days and dresses like he hasn't
slept or showered in three days.Yeah, come on. Well, John
Daly's defense, I will make thepoint that, yes, while he treats
his body like an amusement park,he is also on the golf course every

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fucking day, like he is doinga physical thing while he is doing what
he's doing, whereas not sure youknow, in Matthew Perry's case, you
don't hit the treadmill, you don'thave to do shit. I don't know,
Like I said, the pure speculationon my part. Pictures I've seen
of him that Dave shown that we'resupposedly taken in the last couple of years.

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I'm not talking about like a disheveledappearance. I'm talking about homeboy looks
like he's he's fighting for his lastbreath during the picture. That's what I'm
talking about. And as someone who'slooked that, has seen that in the
mirror before, that's not good.So well, for me, just that
I was not surprised. Yeah,the age, but just knowing what I

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knew about the dude that for likeat least thirty years he's been battling booze,
pills and coke, I was notsurprised. Like my initial thing was
like, well, dude's heart finallygave out, Like yeah, that's that's
what I I mean. Have theyreleased the official cause of death yet,
like it has been deferred, whichmeans they're right in toxicology. Yeah,

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okay, so yeah, then it'sall speculation at this point. No,
I mean you gotta like, wellI don't. I'm speaking to the choir
here, rich, I forget whoI was. I was telling somebody last
week, like you can get awayto like forty with not taking care of
yourself. But like I was,I was telling someone if I oh,

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I was telling someone because I didn'teveryone was like, oh, I was
Florida. I was like, Ihad a good time, but not like
I can remember the whole trip thisyear, And I was thinking, I
cannot if I do between forty andfifty what I did between twenty and thirty,
Like I it's gonna be bad timesjust because the human body. Oh

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absolutely, Yeah, by forty yougotta write the ship. You gotta start
if you have been in amusement parkmode. If by between forty and fifty
you are not writing the ship,You're just you're gonna have a bad time.
But I can tell you flat outthat. Also, if you are
the type of person who comes froman environment where you know, they act
like every birthday, you just walkdown water because it's a miracle that you

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made it another year. Yeah.Yeah, you're a piece of shit and
you're raising a human being that's gonnabe a it's gonna treat himself like shit
or herself like shit and probably bea piece of shit for a long time
too. So thank you for that. Just like throw it that editing there.
So, yeah, you guys arethe friends people. I've seen all

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of them. I've definitely I've watchedit all the way through. It was
a good show. I mean,I think I've probably seen all the episodes.
Like, I don't know if someonewho's a friend's historian, is that
a thing? I don't know,I saw something. There's porn historians,
so there's probably friend historians or friend'shistorians, Like if they could be then
there was one episode where this happened. I could probably be like, h

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I remember that, I remember that, But I maintain Friends was net Like
the people who don't like Friends assumea lot about the people who tolerated the
show Friends. That's what I guess. That's what I'm saying. Like a
lot of people are like, oh, you watch Friends, Oh, you
must be a huge fan. No, dude, it's like fucking the Big
Bang Theory. It's something to puton in the background. So I'm not

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sitting in silence. Yeah I'm not. I was never like obsessed with it.
It was just if it was onand I was channel surfing, it
would sometimes hold my attention. ButI mean, because it is twenty twenty
three, because we have the Internet, and because fucking as holes are drawn
to the Internet like moths to aflame, I started seeing such galaxy brain

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cakes as if you're upset about acelebrity like Matthew Perry dying, unfriend me
now, and I'm like, really, for you can't really, you can't
even fucking wait till next year tostart the shit again over fucking the election.
You gotta do it over a deadmotherfucker from Friends. I hate people
let it all, burn it tothe ground, Let's do it really really,

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I mean, I couldn't believe it, dude. I'm like, are
you serious? And they're not joking, they're not joking. I'm like,
this is nuts, dude. Sotell me again why I should care about
anyone who doesn't care about me.When people will invent fucking reasons to go
to war with their own family andfriends, this is the world we live
in. Now, tell me howhopeful you are so I can laugh at

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you on a tiny amount of likehope. Did y'all know that Matthew Perry
had a sober living house? Yeah, he turned one of his old homes
into it. That was one ofthe things I found out through Pole Morning,
a celebrity online that, yeah,that he'd actually done like a lot,
like a lot, a lot fortrying to help addicts and stuff.

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So yeah, sure, and can'tsay that man didn't try. Wasn't it
like fifteen times he'd been in rehab? Yes, I have no idea if
it's fifteen times, but I knowthat most people go more than once.
I know the figure I heard wassomething teen times, which is like,
well, at least at least hewas trying he was. I don't know.

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I'll be interested to see what histoxicology report comes back as, Like
I said, fifteen times, definitelyisn't it's more than court ordered? Yeah?
Oh, I know, I knowthe other the other stupid thing about
this situation. Okay, so droppinginto comments sections about this story online not
a good idea, but ay,fuck it, I have I have a

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podcast to fucking do. Right,Apparently there's this big fucking theory that he
was like a frequent flyer at EpsteinIsland, and it's like, does anybody
have any proof of that? Oris everybody just walking around talking shit about
a dead guy? And this iswhy I'm kind of unplugging slowly from everything,
because I'm tired of this shit.Nobody can just live or die.

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They have to be painted as achrist like savior or the devil themselves,
and I'm sick of it. I'msick of it. I mean, I
think we've had his conversation on thisshow before. I know we've had it
off the air. Just because youwent to Epstein Island doesn't mean you were
fucking children, because guess what richpeople hang out with other rich p You
got a lot of billionaires hanging outwith your broke gss. No, Well,

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it's like that all over the place. But I mean, I don't
even care that it's Matthew Perry.It could be Joe Blow from down the
street. It's this immediate. Theydied, we either fucking give them sainthood
or we cast them as the devilhimself. And I am sick of it.
Oh yeah, did you hear thatthey wanted to have a storyline where

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Chandler cheated on Monica, but hesaid no because it would it would have
ruined the show. That was thestation he took. Well, it's from
one show you've never you hardly everwatched, a show you've never watched.
There was a character in Game ofThrones who was like very much older than
another character, like we're probably talkingDavos. Was she had the actress got

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to be in his sixties and theactor that played Messande is in her twenties.
Wouldn't you say, Jess, Yes, yeah, she's young. And
they wanted to, like I guess, have his character and her character hook
up. And he was like,no, that don't even make sense.
Like there's a war going on andI'm gonna and my character is embroiled,
or not embroiled, but embedded withthe top people. And there's a war

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involving the entire country going on,and I'm gonna go chase some twenty second
year of twenty something year old tail. No, that doesn't make sense.
So that happens more than probably peoplethink. And I think nowadays in the
in the in the world we livein where it doesn't matter what you do,
it's just what you say and whatyou post online, that that type

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of refusal to do something like thatis just an excuse to virtue signal.
That's really all it is. Andhere's the sick thing. It's not even
him. It's not even Matthew Perryvirtue signaling about himself, going yeah,
they asked me to cheat on Monica. They were going to write a storyline.
I said, no, I'm notgonna do that, blahlah blah blah
blah. And him it was hisco stars, right, yes, yes,
yeah, so there you go.It's just it's it's tiresome. And

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I mean, I get it.When people die, death makes angels of
us. All all you have todo is look at the morons in my
family to see that but Jesus fuckingchrist Man, right, it is ridiculous
how it really is the tyranny ofthe minority. Like normal people on the
Bell Curve cannot have a conversation onlinebecause the idiots on the fucking fringes of

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the Bell Curve are making the loudestnoise and just screaming and shouting over everybody.
And this is just a case whereI'm just like, I hate everybody
in this situation. Fifty two yearold man drop dad in the hot tub
and there's people, Yeah, lookat you, bitch. I saw your
fucking profile picture. Yeah, youprobably fucked children. Why don't you go
fucking your child and under the guiseof reading them a story at this and

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I'm just like over a cast memberof Friends die. This is the world
we're in. I haven't seen anyof that. Would you like to fuck?
Would you like the links on Facebook? I'll send them to you.
I on the fucking page for theshow. I don't give a fuck.
Go troll. Was not at allme questioning you and whether or not you've
seen it. I have seen theInternet. I have no reason to believe

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that they that wouldn't be out there. I guess I'm just not reading comments
anymore. Those years ago. Imean, yeah, every time I wandered
down the comments section, I'm like, that's why I don't do this.
I have seen in my you know, you were talking about your people talking
conspiracies and Epstein Island and all that. On my side of the conspiracy world,

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people are talking about it's because hewas vaccinated. Never mind the drugs,
it was the vaccine. I mean, I'm not gonna lie when younger
guy, and by younger, Iguess they shows my age. Anyone under
sixty something happens with their heart inthe last few years. That's one of
the things that comes to my mind. Like when Lebron James Kid a few

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months ago just had a heart attack. First thing I thought, I was,
like, eighteen year olds just don'thave heart attacks. Hmmm, dude,
I fall well. I mean,I don't follow minor league hockey like
I used to. But there's asignificant amount, like not an insignificant amount,
is what I'm saying of young hockeyplayers dropping dead heart attacks. Now

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stop and think that through before youmake a comment. Where do most minor
league hockey teams play? Not arhetorical question. I require an answer,
Canada go What was Canada's stance onvaccination during the pandemic? Uh, get
vaccinated or die or get the fuckout of our country. Yeah you can't
or go et cetera, et cetera. Oh and here's the bitch of it.

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I'm not saying there's a connection,but I'm told to shut up,
and I'm yelled at when I whenI point out that, has anyone even
looked to see if there's a connect? You need to shut shut him up?
Shut him up? Now, that'swhat I get. So what what?
What are Here's my question, peoplelike us, What are we supposed
to do? Because if it is, if it is vaccinations that are fucking
giving people heart attacks, they're nevergonna admit it, not while we're still

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breathing. What is there to do? Not get it? Yeah, a
wait to die. And I'm andI don't mean like we're all dying in
that Sylvia Plath, We're dying theminute we're born. I mean, oh,
I had a little twinge in mychest. Is this it for the
rest of your life? But hey, they made record profits on that ship,
so for them. Do you seethe commercial light sent you guys in

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the chat. I just I sawit watching football and I was like,
huh, it's just it's a commerceIt's got John Legend, Travis Kelce,
Martha Stewart, and two people Idon't know because I'm getting older, and
it's commercial for COVID shots. Andthe only person in that commercial that was
at risk that they should actually itwas Martha Stewart because she's over seven.

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Everybody else is like, nobody inthis commercial is at risk, especially not
the guy who's in top physical formand under fucking forty. So I would
just like to take a minor issuehere with that argument. To say that
they should get the shot because they'reat risk would be implying that the shot
actually does something buzzing. I don't. I don't think the shot does anything.

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I think we've seen time and timeand time and time and fucking time
again that the shot doesn't do onething to help prevent You can say,
well it would have been a lotworse. Well, you have no you
have no way to know that.How do you know it's not a lot
worse because you got it, Noone knows. You really don't know,
and you know what sucks. Ibrought this point up to my nephew today.

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You know what sucks about all thisis this is really giving vaccines a
bad name, because vaccines overall area good thing. It's bringing up the
point. To him, I waslike, you know, no one gets
polio anymore. You know how noone gets whipping cough anymore, no one
gets smallpox anymore. That's vaccines.But because now they've given us this thing
that they've called a quote unquote vaccineand it doesn't fucking work, now we're

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gonna fucking stigmatize them, and we'regonna bring this dumb shit back. I've
seen a lot of people talk aboutthe I've seen I've seen a lot of
articles written about how the vaccination ratefor school age kids has gone down by
large percentage points. Now I saythat, like, please understand, we're
talking about like it was like ninetyseven percent of kids were vaccinated and now

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it's like ninety two. But that'sa big deal. And never forget folks.
I don't know what show it's on, but it's one of our shows.
We did it and recorded it.They changed the definition of vaccine what
was it In the year twenty twentyone. They changed the definite to take
out. They took the word provideimmunity out of it and change it to

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provides protection. The definition used tohave the words provides immunity, and now
it has been changed to provide protection. That is bullshit. Vaccines they're supposed
to eliminate. Sorry, go ahead, rich, go ahead ahead, finishing.
No, I just I was justI was just gonna just start rambling
me and it's just, yeah,go ahead. What I was going to

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say doesn't matter. It couldn't havebeen that important anyway. So just how
they I was talking about how theychanged the language and the dictionary. Oh,
I know, I was going tosay, just leading people to water
and you know, leading horses towater and if they don't drink, and
there's nothing I can do. Anyonewith half a brain who's been paying attention
saw this coming a decade ago whenthey changed, when they officially started changing

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the definitions of words that we hadin our entire lives and our parents and
our grandparents are great grandparents' lives.These words had always meant this, they
started changing. Shit, racism,racism isn't the definition racism isn't you believe
your race is superior to other racesbased solely on your race. No,

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racism is race plus power equals racism, so black people can't be racist.
And no one said okay, no, no, y'all didn't say anything.
Every person listening, we all satthere and watched them do that shit.
And then they changed the fucking definitionof well, gender and sex are two
different things since fucking when we allwent. If you're over forty and you
went to school, gender and sexmeant the same fucking thing. But they

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keep changing the fucking definitions as shitand telling you no, no, no,
no no, this is what it'salways meant, and this is the
end result of this shit. Andyou were warned ten years ago and you
blew it off ten years ago,And now I don't care. You fucking
cocksuckers get what you deserve. Ican't argue with that. That's pretty much
ramatic. All this dumb shit happens. I just you don't like the bullshit
going on. The next time itstarts to up, speak up, that's

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it. Just go no, I'mnot playing along. Playtime's over. The
children have had the fucking run ofthe fucking house long enough. Then you're
the center and the agitator, likeI don't understand. Like when we were
younger, Rich and I feel likewe bitch about this before. But whatever
we were, we were both webrought up question authority, like maybe because

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we were kids of hippies or whatever, like question everything, always ask questions,
don't take shit at face value.And now the script has been flipped.
It is believe what we tell youand if you fucking ask any questions
or show any signs of fucking youknow, just having any like hey,
wait a minute here, like nope, get it, get them? You
know, what's the joke on theSimpsons? The Independent thought alarm? Like

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said punk, I think more ofthe Bill Hicks. Shut him up.
We have a lot invested in hisride. That too, But like punk
punk rock's now right wing. Thatblows my mind because punk rock has always
been about fuck authoritarianism, like that, communism and fascism are flip sides of

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the same coin. Like that,this blows my teenage mind. Like someone
like Johnny Rotten's now considered a fuckingright wing nut job Like okay, but
see, he's no different than hewas before. I'm sure he's changed in
some ways, but for the mostpart, it's just the same with us.
We've been saying it for a decadeon this show. Now, dude,
we didn't change. We didn't abandonan ideology. The ideology abandoned us

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because we would. We refuse togo along with the changes. They said,
Oh, these aren't changes. It'salways been this way. That's a
lie. And I won't fucking supportsomething built on a line being gas lit
by the people who love to fuckingpoint out gaslighting. No one's more afraid
of being ripped off than the thief, that's true. How'd we get here?
Matthew Perry do what we always do. We go down every fucking road

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we can find. The roads thatgot brought up was the fact that he
was and this is another thing oranother reason he's hated by the right wing,
is just stupid, because he was, like I guess he made a
tweet three and a half years ago, about or two and a half years
ago, whenever the vaccine first comeout, like, thank god, the
vaccine's out, we can get backto normal. Oh, he supported vaccinations.

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Kill him. I'm glad he's dead. He said the same thing.
Almost every person that I knew personallysaid, even people who had no plans
on taking the vaccine, were like, thank the fuck God, they finally
rolled that shit out. Maybe wecan get back to fucking normal. I'm
sure there's definitely audio of you andI saying that, rich definitely, because
we didn't know right we were allscared together the whole world. We were

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like, cool, something that's gonnastop this shit and we can get back
to normal. Right on. Thething that did it for me was getting
sick and going down for two weeks. Dude, I've I've had my ass
kicked. I've been hospitalized because I'vehad my ass kicked so bad. I've
never fucking I've never thought, well, I'm gonna die, but I did
when I had it in the firstfucking time, and it knocked my ass
out for two weeks. That's whyI crawled on my hands and knees up

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from the basement of the house Iwas living in to get upstairs, because
I figured if I fall out downstairs, there's no way these lazy cocksuckers are
carrying my fat ass up the stairs, So hank your fat ass up the
stairs and die up there. Hey, you can be considerate, Like,
Hey, I actually no, becauseI knew these lazy focks would be like,
is he dying? We can't liftthem? Don't dieal nine one one

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either let them die, because that'show the idiots that I lived with were
the thing I thought to you,just being more considered an ems like,
hey, we'll help them out.We'll be on the we'll be on the
level they come in on. No, I was concerned about getting a phone
call the MS because I couldn't catchmy breath to make a phone call.
But that's why I took the goddamn fucking well, the half of the
vaccine that I got. I tookit from my mom because I looked at

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the numbers, and he's part ofmy personality, it's what I do.
But yeah, looked at hey,look the people that are actually dying from
this are over seventy. I wantto get this vaccine. I don't want
to be the guy that kills mymom. Oh yeah, it turns out
two years later she got it andshe's fine. Going back to what Jess
said, yeah, I it's anecdotalevidence. But April twenty twenty one,
I caught COVID. I was downfor two weeks. What was it?

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May June? I got the firstJAB and then a bunch of bullshit happened.
I'm not going to go into andI just I never got the second
jab and it just never happened.And then what I got sick in May
of this year, and I wasdown for three days, and they were
they were bad, but I meanthey were nowhere near as bad as the
two weeks. I would say,Well, I could argue, that's that's
all I can fucking say. Well, I could argue, you've had,

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you've made. I had two differentstrains, right, you could have had
like the OG one and then theone you got. You know, this
year, you got what three pointoh four point zero five point zero The
first time, I didn't lose mysense of smell. This time I did.
I lost it for two months.So and I'm not even sure if

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it's back one hundred percent because whenI go to the dispensary, I open
up some of the fucking they're like, you want to smell this, and
I'm like, that's no, that'swasted on me, dude, Like I
know it. I'm like, youopened it and three people turned around and
looked. I know it smells strong, but it don't smell that strong to
me. So it's wasted on me. So no, I don't want to

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sniff it, just bag it up. I got shit to do. Yeah,
and weed the smoke. So let'sget this ball movie. Yeah,
the more time I'm standing here withyou. Yeah. Well, also,
you know, everyone also says likeyour first time is your worst time,
and that wasn't true for me.But my first time getting it, I
didn't have any symptoms except a lowgrade fever and other people in my house

(27:33):
being sick with it. That wasit. Low grade fever, not so
much as a cough. Nothing.And then the second time I got it,
I mean that wasn't like dying.It was somewhere between the cold and
flu. I still would preferred COVIDover the flu. I mean, I'm
gonna guess I had it again becausewhen Rich got sick, I got sick

(27:53):
that same week. But I waslike, I woke up on Saturday,
I felt like shit, but Iwas back at work on Monday. Now
that I recall, I didn't feellike right till the following Wednesday. But
yeah, it didn't. The firsttime I had it, I was in
bed for five days, like justthe most tired I've ever been. When

(28:15):
I was sick. But yeah,this last time, if I did have
it, Yeah, it was likethere was one day I spent in bed
and then after that back at itand see, I'm I'm very much well.
I'm a creature. I have itvery in a lot of ways.
But when it comes to getting sick. When I'm sick, I just I
just want to sleep until I'm better. I'm like an animal that just like

(28:37):
wants to go lick its wounds andbe left alone. Me too, and
I but I was keeping my mindlike you got to eat and drink stuff
otherwise you won't get better. Well, drink, yes, eat, No,
I couldn't. I don't have muchof an appetite these days as is
when I was sick, I hadnone. So but yeah, I don't
know, I didn't think of that. I mean they're probably yeah, years

(29:00):
apart, probably different strains. Soyeah, I don't know, maybe the
first strain. Of course, beinghonest, I was a lot heavier.
I was also doing a lot moreshit than I shouldn't have been doing.
Yeah, with one COVID, weren'tyou still smoking, smoking, drinking almost
four hundred pounds? Yeah, basicallylike hey, remember when you told me

(29:21):
I was gonna die young. I'mdoing my best. Make sure it is
insane when you say it that flatout, like, yeah, I was
smoking, drinking at four hundred pounds. Oh my god, you can't bring
up, motherfucker. Just stick agun in your face. It's it's quicker
for everybody involved, and it helpsthe economy because the people have to people
to get paid to clean up brainsand ship. So sorry, Rich,

(29:44):
we're gonna your job creator even indeath. I provide the first strain of
COVID was like that was a WildWest strain of COVID. It affected people
so differently and made me think thisship was not all the same thing.
First blitz like one person would loseyour sense of smell, one person would
like get COVID toes another person,And I'm like, what the fuck a

(30:10):
fucking respiratory infection or not infection,but uh virus with with the first the
first time we got it, itwas the og COVID right, And that
was the one that I did notget sick. I had no issues.
My husband was sick. He wasdown. He was down for about a
week. And one of my kidswas an elementary school age and I took

(30:37):
them into the hospital twice, likethey were sick, sick, and that
wasn't supposed to happen. You know, Like as a parent, you were
like, oh shit, and wegot to go to the hospital kind of
sick. Uh well, so Itook him to a quick Care at first,
but you know, just to dolike the flu swab do the whatever.
But god, he had been sickfor forever. He had been sick
for first I took him in,it was ten or eleven days of a

(31:00):
fever. I was like, that'sjust not normal. Let's go get swabbed,
let's you know, get shited.Just some labs run, let's figure
something out. And they gave hima steroid and they were like, hey,
you know, this is gonna getrid of his fever. He's gonna
seem great after this. But ifhis fever comes back and under forty eight
hours, you got to go tothe emergency room. And twelve hours later

(31:23):
he had spiked a beaver again,and I was like shit. So after
the emergency room we went and youknow, I had them pull everything on
him, CBC's and chest X raysand I mean it was it was COVID,
but it was not supposed to affecthim that way. You know,

(31:44):
it wasn't supposed to put kids weresupposed to be you know, as COVID
went on, kids were less affectedby it. Well, it's the way
a virus works, right, isas it continues to live on, it
gets weaker because if a virus killshost, that's it for the virus.
Yes, they need that in thename host. Yes, absolutely, I

(32:10):
still think now you talk about OGcovid, I still think OG OG COVID
was. Remember the vate panic OGtriple OG. Yeah, yes, yes,
I absolutely do. It was theend of twenty nineteen, and I
told podcast a ton of times.I've told this story. In October of
twenty nineteen, I was on adelivery and there was something going on where

(32:32):
NPR was talking to their reporter inChina, and he was right outside and
he was it was not about COVID, It was not about any of that.
And the reporter on NPR asked thereporter in China about, well,
have you gone to this location?He said, oh, no, because
there's some sort of a medical outbreakor something like that, and maybe they

(32:54):
like I can't remember the wording heused, but it was very carefully worded,
and he was like, and they'vepoured a quarantined off certain areas of
the city. This was in Octobertwenty nineteen, in like in wuh in
an NPR story. I wish Icould fucking remember the story and all that
vape shit was going down that fault. Remember the symptoms in December and January.

(33:19):
I remember people talk about that,like their lungs were just filling with
fluid. People were just people weredrowning in you know what I'm saying,
like the same shit as COVID,and it was we just forgot about.
They tried to say that, uhand this was not in the official news
stories. This was in the morelike sensational online don't have to answer and

(33:39):
ethics what ethics new quote unquote newsstories. But they were like, you
know, one of the the vapemods, it threw a piece of metal
through the through the Oh shit,I'm trying to remember what they called it.
Basically, they got everything wrong.Basically, they're trying to say that

(34:00):
the mod that he had built threwa piece of metal down his throat,
somehow went into his lungs and embeddeditself in his lungs and was cutting his
lungs off, and he didn't knowit for like a week or so.
Brow your trip tip that the pieceof metal could get through it, And
I mean, like, how bigof a piece of metal can tear up
your lungs and why would it gointo your you know what? Like there's

(34:22):
so much like and he didn't noticeit. And then there was the well
and then it exploded. Really wow, someone had a mod that exploded.
What you got pictures of the guy? You got pictures of it when it
happened. Oh no, then fuckoff. I've seen when they explode.
Okay, it's not like you're holdinga stick of dynamite and people act like

(34:43):
it takes half of people's heads off. Like that was so much bullshit going
on, And you're absolutely right,Chris. Every fucking person who hates vaping
used it as an excuse to jumpon that shit. And the minute COVID
fucking started being reported as a story, that shit went ba by. Has
anyone talked about that sense? Nope. I think we've talked about it more

(35:04):
than the mainstream media have, andwe talk about their lack of talking about
it and how it disappeared not supposedto notice things we're just supposed to shut
up, and you're a noticer ofthings. That's a problem. Yeah.
Oh, speaking of that, youbrought up something interesting in the group chat
Chris about Russell Brand and how that'sjust all gone. Ironically, though,

(35:27):
the same day I googled his nameand then a story came out about him
and some shenanigans on the set ofArthur. No one's talking about this anymore,
but it's not a victory anymore.I will say, now, has
any have any charges been brought againsthim? I'd say I also when I
did some digging, the way thelaws are in the UK, at least

(35:51):
publications in the UK cannot publish storiesabout it because they don't want to taint
the jury pool. Now doesn't saythat American publications go wild, but it
just seems to have disappeared over there. They would Yeah, it was if
it was going to yes that we'veproven with the OJ shit that even and

(36:14):
this was when the press around thein the US was at least having the
thin veneer of ethics. Yeah,they're still pretending to be proven. Yeah,
yeah, But I mean that waslike the beginning of the end of
for them, because that's when everyonerealized, Oh, they don't give a
fuck. All they care about isratings they have. This is not news
people who give a fuck about gettingthe story right and informing the public.

(36:35):
They just want higher ratings so thesefucking blow dryed talking heads can get more
money when their contracts up. That'sit. I mean. However, I
mean, I was kind of reminded, we'll get to this later of my
relationship with the airport. Uh,they do it because we watch. They
wouldn't they wouldn't repeat the behavior ifit didn't benefit them. But doesn't that

(36:58):
kind of go I believe this goesin the realm of you teach people how
to treat you. Yeah, Idon't know. I feel like that goes
into what I was saying in thepre show about how the news doesn't know
what to do anymore because we've allstopped watching collectively, We've all just stopped.
Find me people who watch CNN,find me people who watch Box.

(37:19):
Oh yeah, I've ha CNN's ratings. Since Trump's gone out of Trump's gone
off the air. It was ashow, wasn't it. Yeah, since
she's left office, our abysmal.Like more people listen to Joe Rogan than
fucking watch CNN's main primetime lineup.You know something I noticed through the whole
Oh god, we're coming up ona fucking decade of Trump in American politics.

(37:46):
Jesus, maybe I should have drankedmyself to death. Anyways, a
decade of Donnie. I noticed beingin and out of restaurants when I do
app deliveries, when like when Trumpwould really in the headlines, half the
TVs were tuned to sports, whichis what you would expect, and the
other half were tuned to news stationsFox, CNN, MSNBC, whatever the

(38:09):
fuck. And it's like, whenTrump falls out of the headlines, you
go back in and it's like mostlysports and a couple of daytime soap operas.
Interesting. I mean, it's literallyit's just like nobody gives a fuck
they were watching. They don't givea fuck about the news. They wanted
to watch shit about Trump. That'sthe problem that these we've been conditioned for

(38:30):
like idle worship. And if wedon't call it that, because we go,
oh, well, he's entertaining,all right, Well you're still giving
a narcissist what he wants. You'reundivided attention. He he's entertaining. Andy
knows where he is. No,no, A. I can't even fuck
it. I can't find one personwho will fucking defend Biden's cognitive ability at
this point, even if they fuckingvoted for Bible. I'm talking about in

(38:52):
the real world. Yeah, he'sabout slipping into dementia. Is terrifying because
this is like, you know whatI should. I'm going full millennial with
it. This is triggering my PTSD. Three of my grandparents died of dementia,
and watching this man go through thisis bringing that all to the surface.
That's why. And I got alltypes of big feels about it.

(39:15):
That's why I don't like dunking onhim, as easy as it is,
because I think I went over thison a couple shows. You're picking on
an old man who's slipping into dementia. I've talked to people who had family
members who they hated, and itwas usually a son hating his father,
and it was like, I can'twait two year old, so I can
fuck you up, you old man, I fucking hate you. And then

(39:37):
when they fucking see their father,the man they've hated their entire life,
the man that they've done shit justto they did shit they never would have
done or wanted to do, justto rub it in his face when they
see him frail, gasping, fightingfor breath. It's amazing how much that
shit goes out the window. Justan observation. Man, My grandmother,

(39:58):
it was a few years were interestingbecause sometimes she was her and then sometimes
she was her when she was thirteen, that's apparently where her mind went.
It's interesting hearing about life in thenineteen tens. Dude, she was She's
born in nineteen oh three, likesaying that. Now, that's crazy that
I got to talk to somebody wholived through the ship she got to live

(40:20):
through. Okay, I feel likethe guy in Grandma's Boy, The automobile
Tupac Old Broad Pussy tasted like theGreat Depression. Yeah, shit, how

(40:45):
that's not even twenty years ago.Dear listeners, if you have not seen
the movie Grandma's Boy, almost itwas like two thousand and five, two
thousand and five. I know thathurts, okay, because two thousand and
five is like I was starting toconsider myself old in two thousand five.
Yeah, that was like my beginningof my late twenties. Anyways, Grandma's

(41:07):
boy, watch it. It's fuckinghilarious. It is. Sorry we're podcasting
for too No, but if anyof you listeners have seen it, you
know exactly this sceen we're talking about. If you're ever like, hey,
Adam Sandler never made a stoner movie. Yes he did. It's called Grandma's
Boy. He did not play thelead. All everybody from you've seen in

(41:30):
every Adam Sandler movie is in itexcept Adam Sandler. He probably went,
guys, I this is a greatmovie. I can't be in this movie.
But you, guys Madison will behappy to make it. Let you
make this movie. But I cannotbe in this movie. Like, I
don't even I even think. RobSchneider was like, I can't be in
this one either. Well he wasn'tit. Oh he was the landlord.

(41:52):
Oh that's right, that's right,yeah at the beginning. No, never
mind. If it smells like secredfeel concerts in here, yes, Iget
you are loving you. Sometimes youwent out the accent. It is like,
come on, dude, I don'tknow if you're being like, if
you're putting on it, what islike a racist version of the accent,

(42:15):
or you're doing a legit version ofthe accent. I'm like mimicking my family
members, man, my aunts anduncles, and come, I'm telling you,
it comes out every once in awhile, and it's I mean,
it's like it's like when I slipinto my southern accent and people are like,
holy shit, where did that comefrom? Like a lot of families

(42:35):
born south of the Mason Dixon line, that's where that came from. Okay,
anyway, what were we talking?We were talking about Biden's age and
somehow we're talking and got the Grandma'sBoy. Yeah, we're talking about CNN
and Trump. Well, it's kindof in line with talking about Grandma's Boy
because only old people were watching fuckingsee see I can I can thread that

(42:57):
needle and somehow make it all fuckingcome back somehow. But yeah, sorry,
Jes's go ahead. No, No, that that was all. That
was just that was all I rememberseeing in Trump. No one watches the
news anymore, so we've taught themhow to treat us. Coach, you're
for visiting Christopher Media. Gotten acoach, you're for visiting Christopher Media?

(43:25):
Have you either of you like whenpeople? I don't know, Chris,
I don't really see you getting intoconversations with people about fucking politics very much
in public, because your job isn'tlike your job is like, oh you
have opinions about politics, Good foryou now. Anyways, please sign here
for the contract. Yeah exactly.It's like, I don't. I don't.

(43:46):
It's not I don't get paid tohave this conversation, especially with a
lot of the people I do with. I agree with some of some of
the stuff they say, like no, I'm not, no, I am
a political Yeah, sign here exactlyexactly exactly. But I don't know.
I maybe it's because the way Ilook, the way I sound, way

(44:07):
I carry myself, people just startfucking So it's Biden ship man. Huh.
It's crazy. I'm like, I'msorry, did are we picking up
a conversation? I do not rememberever having dog whistle rate is Rich is
yeah, what's your name? Soyeah, apparently being white to dog whistle
Now to other Republicans, Rich,you have to fix that. I voted

(44:29):
Republican once for president or not president. It was for John McCain in the
Michigan primary over Bush because I waslike, I'll take McCain over Bush because
I did not want Al Gore,and I didn't want Bush, so I
didn't vote in two thousand. Anyways, Fuck what we're talking about, still
still seeing in and Biden. WhatI was gonna say is, well,

(44:53):
people come up to me and starttalking about Biden, I just go,
because I have to play it downthe middle, especially if I'm on the
clock, I go, you know, what you said is very interesting.
Okay, got their shit out theway. Now I try to fucking point
out something. I'm like, buthere's what's really worried, worrisome about Biden
for me, we all agree theman is clearly showing signs of dementia.

(45:14):
My grandmother and grandfather and you knowthey've died from dementia, and wouldn't let
him hold the remote control who's runningthis country? Because it ain't Camilla or
Kamala Harris, And it's just peoplejust go and then go back to the
point that they want to make.And I'm like the fact that I just
pointed out to you nobody's running thisfucking we don't know who's really running this

(45:35):
country, who's pulling the fucking strings. That doesn't worry you as much as
Biden's too woke or Biden ain't doingenough for black people or whatever the fuck
they're bitching about or fucking praising Bidenfor. That tells me everything I need
to know. These people have andthe average person have no interest in knowing
what's truly going on. Like Ifeel at this point, they're just shoving

(45:57):
them at a podium and telling themto read the teleprompter. Yes, dude,
we're living through Reagan part two,and we lived through Reagan all right,
Like what the fuck? Why dowe got to go through this shit
again? Because anyone but Trump?I mean, we have a we have
an age minimum to be elected president. I think we need to start having
a maximum age to be president.Oh, there's plenty of uh, and

(46:19):
that goes for truck Alan Trump's oldfucking ass in there. Either. There's
plenty of companies where as soon asyou get to a certain age, they
go, See, it doesn't matterwhat position you're in, whether you're in
your CEO or you're one of thefucking line level people. There's certain companies
you get to like sixty five,sixty seven, if you're lucky, sixty

(46:40):
two, they go and you're done. I don't want to retire, No,
you're retiring I don't know how I'veheard horror stories about the military these
days, but used to be ifyou were enlisted at least twenty twenty five
years tops, man, you gotto go. Maybe if you're like sergeant
major of the Marine Corps and beinggroomed for some sort of cabinet position or

(47:04):
something like that. You know whatI'm saying, like, maybe you could
stay in. But I mean,yeah, it was just like forty forty
five. Yeah, it's pretty muchput him out the pasture time. There's
a Scrubs episode about it. Kelselturned sixty five. He didn't want people
to know because it's sixty five.They made him retire. Gotta go,
Why do we not do that foreverybody and the Supreme Court, President,

(47:27):
Congress, because because here's here's here'sthe thing, here's the thing. Going
back to what I was what Iwas getting at, pointing out that whether
you fucking hate Biden for like,let's say America supporting Israel right now,
those people will agree with me thatBiden has no idea what's going on,
he's not in control, and thenturn around in the next breath and cuts
the man out because he's supporting Israeland Israel is a bunch of colonizers.

(47:51):
You get the cognitive dissonance? Isit? Is it just me, am
I the one who's crazy, becauseI'll go I'll go to the looney bin,
a little grippy vacation. No oneelse see this, Like you admit
that this man is not running thecountry in the very next breath, fuck
this man for support. You justsaid he's not making any decisions, So
why the fuck are you He's not? Why are you mad at Hit?

(48:14):
It's like being mad at Santa.I don't understand that he didn't. He
has nothing to do with fucking anyof those decisions. And they'll tell you
they believe that. Then how canyou fucking condemn them. He's obviously a
puppet, more so even than wwas. We'll see if he's as much
one as Reagan was. Hey,these are the same people that think mining

(48:35):
the earth is better than uh uhuh greenhouse gas emissions. So this is
oh god, this goes back towhat I've been trying to get across for
fucking so long. Now you can'teven have the conversation about that because you
either have to be pro fucked theearth or pro fuck whatever. Elon Musk
is doing because he's not doing enoughfor the environment, even though Tessel's like

(48:58):
does the most for fucking the greenbullshit madness, dude, madness. Where
are the conversations being had in publicabout the spaces between these two insane points
of view? They're not. They'renot because those why are we going out
and why are we not going up? We us, the three of us
on this fucking show, going outand having these conversations because they'll fall on

(49:21):
dea fears some of them because Ithink, getting back to kind of tying
into what Jess said a little bitago, rational conversations don't get clicks.
Rational conversations don't stir people up good. They get ties into agitation propaganda,
right like a measured a measured takeisn't going to stir people up. And
that's probably why now we live inthe age of extremists. Like we were

(49:43):
rich, we were taught when wewere coming up, especially in our media
training, ignore the people on thefringes, Ignore those, Those are the
minority. You want to talk tothe fucking people in the middle. That's
where most people live. And nowand I think we have a social media,
we have a tyranny of the minority. We are catering to the edges

(50:05):
of the bell curved and I putthat at the feet of social media.
I'm just saying to point out thatthe man is like incompetent. You don't
even have to give your like likehe's seriously, would you let that if
that was your grandfather, would youlet him drive with your son in the
backseat. That's how you get someoneon it. You know what the ABC's
of how to fucking have these conversations. Let's do it, Okay, That's

(50:29):
how you get these pieces of shitto understand or at least begin to understand
their own hypocrisy. You take theirkid and you put them in the fucking
situation. I believe Michael Jackson's innocent. Oh okay, so you're gonna let
your kid fucking spend the night andsleep in his bed. No, j
mean Biden's at the stage would belike, Grandpa, don't use the stove
while I'm gone, And the firsttime he does, now Grandpa has to

(50:52):
have someone watching him. And ifyou don't have that good of insurance,
Grandpa, that home is calling.Shouldn't should it? Should have kept drinking
about twenty years ago. Huh,you don't how you were gonna go out
do it. Would you let thatman if that was your if that was
your father, would you let himdrive around in a car with your kid

(51:14):
in the backseat. If they goyeah, introduce him to the most senile
person or drunk person you can andbe like, I got your kids,
uber they're here now. And bythe way, I'm joking, because if
they go yup, you're dealing withan idiot, and the conversation save yourself
the fucking the time. Someone's gotto plant seeds, someone's got to do
something. Tides fucking start podcasting,bitch about it. I don't know,

(51:35):
I don't know. Well, I'mjust saying there's a lot of fucking people
walking around from the middle the majoritywho are like, you know what,
I'm starting to fucking speak up andhave conversations, and I'm going, wow,
that's interesting. These are people wouldn'thave said shit if they had a
mouthful two three years ago. Well, speaking of Biden, Uh, some
polls came out this week, likein five swing states. Apparently it's according

(52:00):
to these polls, Trump would beatthe fuck out of them right now,
and then the White House comes outand says, oh, you really can't
trust poles, and you got tolook at how the data is collected and
this is it like and I'm justlike, oh really, because when the
data is in your favor, boy, do you seem to love the do
you seem to love polls? It'slike, oh, well, this is
just a reflection of how the Americanpeople feel about the job the president is

(52:22):
doing. And like again it's theydo it right in front of our face,
and we don't even a few yearsago, I'd say we don't even
notice. Now we don't even care. That's where I'd say we're at.
Yeah, we definitely we don't carebecause there's no trust. So these have
also shown me four thousand other polesthat say that a majority of Americans believe

(52:46):
the gender affirming care of elementary schoolkids is life saving care. Like no
one believes it anymore. We understandhow everything's the wool has been pulled or
the whatever the curtains. We seeeverything well, because in this thing like
that, I will be like theWhite House, I'll look at or how
many people did you ask? Right, because usually you look at the bottom

(53:08):
of oh this is we asked thirtyfour people in a phone survey on these
dates. Okay, you asked zeropoint one percent of the population. Cool,
Like, this is not a validreflection. And to another thing,
I would where did you call nothingbut people in cities? Did you call

(53:29):
nothing but people in rural areas?Who do It's? You can make polls
say whatever you want them to say. Let's not forget like during COVID when
everyone was walking on see like everybodywas either not working or like it was
like at that point in COVID,I get a fucking call Hi, we'd
like do a political survey. Iusually hang up on them, like,

(53:50):
ure, let's do it. AndI remember clearly going okay, this is
how I feel. They're like,okay, well you have to answer one
of the three ways. I'm like, but I don't feel those ways.
Well you have to which one closeis approximate? No, none of them?
You have to. And I'm like, okay, so you don't.
You don't want to, You don'twant to know how people feel. You
want to fucking give us basically achoice between A, B and C,

(54:14):
and all doors lead to the sameplace. Yeah, there's a joke in
Parks and rec about it. Shesays she learned it from Carl Rove.
But she says, you design thesurvey to give you the answer you want,
and that sounds like exactly what youwere going through. Like nope,
you can only choose from A Band C. Oh absolutely, And in
the way it was worded, ohyeah, there was wording it was it

(54:37):
was Ultimately it was a stumping callfor the congressman in the district I was
in, or the district they thoughtI was in, which was Detroit.
Hey, brother, you got acouple of minutes. I wonder if they
were like, how old are you, sir? You live at what part
in Detroit? You're aware you mustbe like ninety. No, man,

(54:59):
I'm like forty. You live youlive near my granddad? Hey, you
know you know you know hooting them? Okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
And if you don't think I've hadthat conversation in real life, you don't
know me in real life. Well, so, I mean, what do

(55:22):
you guys think, I mean,our polls legit at this point? No
or no? Yeah. The twentysixteen election showed us that because all the
polling, all we heard was Hillarywas gonna just but was gonna prolapse.
Trump's ain't give him a pink stock. Yeah, and we'll we all know

(55:44):
that is not what happened. Hey, you should go ahead and look up
pink sock chests since you already gotall that ship in your fucking algorithm.
No, no, I'm good.Rich. Did you ever see the exchange
Jess and I had in the chatabout about the pop past or what.
Yeah, but for humans it hadto be like well no, but just

(56:04):
based on how the how the adwas presented. I was like, Jess,
that's not for pe. I don'tknow why this suddenly started showing up.
I said, well, you areright, because you were looking up
all the gender flags your browsers,like, oh you're a free huh cool,
we start showing you these kind ofads. That's the only one I

(56:25):
got though, that was it.Oh, well you looked up a very
specific flne I did. Yeah,that I gave you the I gave you
the parameters. The Patricia on theparameters, I like tying bitches up and
peing on them. Where's my flag? Well, in two thousand and eight

(56:46):
that was a joke. In twentytwenty three, he's got one, goddamn
it. Patrice you didn't live tosee the mountaintop, big man. But
you know what, you got yourflag. But see that's Rego right there.
Uh he did. He started toolate. He started after Ford he
giving a shit about Oh no,he dude, he died right after he

(57:08):
turned forty two. Yeah, hedidn't know. He didn't give a shit
about his health till like right upuntil they were like, don't buy green
bananas. And then he's like,oh, and it's yeah, dude,
did you what did you think wasgonna happen? Right? I mean,
like, not to get too deepinto it, but if you really want
to hear a bunch of motherfuckers whodon't have filters how they feel when they

(57:32):
lose someone at a ridiculously young agedue to the person's own self destructive streak.
Listen to the Opie and Anthony episodethe day Patrese O'Neill or they announced
that he had died, and you'llhear, wasn't Bill burstall on it?
Then Bill Burr called in Joe Rogan, Luis K stopped in. Lucy K

(57:52):
was pissed, like angry, andthat's obviously Louis K. When he gets
sad, he gets angry That's howhe did it, because he was like,
I had grabbed that fat, fuckingdrug him out of his fucking house
and made him walk around the fuckingblock with me. If I'd have known
how bad it was, and I'mlike, that's not Louis c k.
But that was real at that moment, So shoving let us in his face

(58:14):
the whole way too. Yeah,your brother sad the same thing. And
if you know anything about j Moore, Jmore, don't give a fuck.
J Moore would have grabbed Patrisa Neiland started sucking, forced feeding him satellad.
Oh he came out recently, hewent to rehab again. Uh ja
Yeah for adderall he was talking about, uh for a couple of year period.

(58:35):
He was like, oh, yeah, I'd be here, I'd beat
snorting in your bathroom getting ready tocome on. How do you think how
do you think I did all therapid fire impressions? Oh yeah, although
you know who J Moore just married, just married. Yeah, like in
the last few months. They've beentogether for like a half a decade.
Genie Buss, Oh wait, Ithought he was when Nicky Cox, this

(58:58):
is that ship blew up, dude, This is like Okay, this song
we got to talk about, likenot on the show, because I'm like,
whoa wait a minute, I don'teven fucking did I sidestep into another
reality? Like seriously, I sworeto god he's been with that bitch since
for like twenty years now. No, they they they got divorced and he
is now married to Genie Buss.Cool Genie Bus for those who don't know,

(59:22):
owner of the Lakers. Yeah,he joked about the prenup too.
He said it took longer to planto hammer out the prenup than it did
to plan the wedding. Yeah,because they're going to try to make that
as iron close to iron quite aspossible, especially in California. But you
know, good for good for goodfor a man getting in on the gold

(59:43):
digging action. I feel that way. Just it seems wrong either way,
especially in that situation. Neither ofy'all need each other's money. Actually,
I don't think, like he's asports guy. I think that might be
like actually genuine, but you neverknow. No, No, what I'm
saying is if it doesn't work outfor whatever reason, those people need any
of the other person's money, wellshe's got it. Just because that's what

(01:00:04):
But because that's what's expected for somereason there, somebody has to get paid
out of that fucking divorce, right, Well, dude, they got married,
that's the Yeah, if they gotmarried in California, she's I believe.
I know that, Like you cando prenups, but I believe California
is one of those states like,sorry, you got married, you get
half. Yeah, that's if youuh are together from well I used to

(01:00:29):
if you were together more in tenyears, then it doesn't matter what your
prenups at. So well that Iknow for a fact because I had a
friend's uncle get hit pretty hard inthe pocket via divorce in like the late
nineties, early two thousands, viathat wall. So she must like him
because she stayed with him while wehit bottom and went to rehab again.
But yeah, I don't know.We're talking about Jane Moore, We're talking

(01:00:50):
about Biden being old, we talkingabout polling in swing states. The problem
isn't it. The problem isn't thatwe fucking hop from fucking little subject to
subject. The problem as we tryto rile like go back to being something
that we're not, which is,oh, I'm sorry, let's get back
onto this topical podcast that we wantto be, but we're just not guys.
So I mean, like if wehave trying to stay on the subject,

(01:01:13):
yeah, but like if we haveanother subject, let's throw it out.
But like if we if we've gottenas far as we've gotten, yeah,
let's move on. I get it. What was what was the Obama
thing of trying to find it inthe chat? What he said about inclusive
capitalism? Well, just I wasjust more taken aback by the phrase that

(01:01:34):
I believe it's we talk about richbrings it up all the time. How
they just they try to rebrand shipand to me, the phrase inclusive capitalism
sounds like you're just that you founda new way to label communism, because
inclusive capitalism sounds like exactly what communismis. Hey, everybody gets the same
here you go, it's not communist, it's inclusive capitalism. It's just we

(01:01:58):
all get the same thing said.That just gets back to the whole like
it's gone from equality to equity.Yeah, oh, now that everyone has
the same rights, Well now let'sbitch about now that everyone doesn't have the
same things. Well, that's justbeen like since the dawn of time,
everywhere right the minute, but theminute you try to point out that you're
moving the goalpost away from equality toequity, we still don't have equality.

(01:02:22):
We're being hunted in the streets.Who's we? First of all? Who's
we? You know what I'm saying, Like when Lebron said it, it's
like, you ain't being hunted inthe streets, bro, and no one
hunting you down to paparazzi. Youhave lived in a gated community for the
last twenty years. Yeah, noone's hunting. No one's okay, all
the maybe fox hunting in the neighborhoodyou live in. But you know,

(01:02:43):
like, did we talk about uh? Did we bring it up? Michael
Irvin called out his son a coupleof weeks ago because I guess his son
does rap. And then Michael Irvinsaid he hears his kids music and he's
like, son, what are youtalking about? You grew up in a
gated community. So yeah, that'sI mean, there's a there's a conversation
to be had there. But Imean the point is is that you're looking

(01:03:07):
at generations who have now they lookat gangster rap the way we look at
Robert de Niro as as as amobster. It's a role they play.
Well, it's he made a pointand he said, my age group,
my he's like my generation ran awayfrom it. They're running towards It's like
I hung out with people like he'stalking about in that music that went you

(01:03:28):
got something, don't do this shit, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, that is no joke.That is no joke. If and this
is white, black does not matter. This is just working poor in the
hood, however you want to fuckingcall it, whatever neighborhood you want to
call it. If they see someonewith potential that people who are usually the

(01:03:49):
better people are like, get thefuck out of here and get the fuck
away from us. Yeah, becauseyou have a chance. I never will.
It's like the scene from Goodwill.Honey, I'm gonna wake up tomorrow
and fifty and I'm gonna be doingthis job and that's okay. But if
you're with me and we're going toPatriots games, I'm gonna kick your fucking
ass. So I mean, that'syeah, that's but I mean, that's

(01:04:13):
that's what I'm saying. That's that'sthe side conversation. I'm just saying.
In the eyes of a lot ofpeople in that generation. It's no different
than going to an acting class andthen they're playing the role of the I
don't know, mobster, gangster whateverin the movie What the what the the
guy in eight Mile right, Iwas acting all hard and shit and turns
out I know something about you thatDA goes to Cranbrook. Yeah, with

(01:04:34):
the Cranbrook man when they said,I was like, damn, if you're
not from this area, you don'tknow how Damn. Yeah, bro,
you went to Cranbrook. Like theonly thing they've been more shocking is like
I went to Catholic Center, dud. Yeah, dude, I know where
Cranbro. I've worked around Cranbrook.The average, the average median house value
in cran around Cranbrook in twenty twelvewas two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

(01:04:56):
That's eleven years ago. Yeah,the home average that was before the pandemic.
In the last ten years, homevalley has inflated. So yeah,
no, I did. Yeah.It's definitely a neighborhood where if you're driving
a certain type of car or acar that looks older than CERTA, cops
are going to be like, hey, what are you doing here? All
right, So now that that's sad, conversation has done, what were we

(01:05:18):
talking about? You can't ask methat now. Now I'm thinking about Clarence
and Clarence's parents having a real goodmarriage, which I was so funny.
I'm like, like, not funny, ha ha, but funny strange.
I'm like, really, dude,Like, so you want people to have
a shitty fucking upbringing. You wantpeople to live like you and your sister

(01:05:38):
live in this movie. Okay,right, well that's you get older and
you're like, nah, that's adumb way to think. I mean,
like everything else was on point,but it's like, don't attack it the
guy's parents because his parents stayed together. Yeah, that's not it. You
know what I'm saying, Like,that's Clarence's fault. His parents tried and
had money. What's your parents trying, Clarence. Oh yes, blackcass bits,

(01:06:00):
dude, I'm that scene and don'tbe a menace reminds me of so
many people I grew up with.Oh, don't go sound out even have
no punk ass dreams and shit,Like so many people I grew up with
had that attitude. Nope, here'syour lot in life. Just accept it.
Fuck you well, you know whatthat you guys have heard the pill

(01:06:21):
shit right from the matrix, butit's used in other things, like you
know, you take the red pillis for men's rights, and the black
pill is for like, you know, everything's fucked and we're all gonna be
Basically, the black pill is justlike jet black nihilism. Now there's like
the white pill, and it's notwhat I thought it was, because,
especially in the last decade, I'vebeen reconditioned, where if I hear the

(01:06:45):
word black or white, I automaticallythink of a person instead of like an
actual color. And it's funny becauseit's like, I didn't think this way
about fucking fifteen years ago, butI recognize I think differently now I've been
reaction. But yeah, white pillis basically that that things are going to
be okay. You guys heard anybodyuse this verbiage whatsoever? Never? Never,

(01:07:10):
I can't remember the last time Iheard anyone say things we're gonna be
okay, honest called sand pill.It's just established. It's a I don't
I don't know what what do youcall it? Optimism? I mean,
because it's I guess the black pillis like pure nihilism, Like cynicism isn't
even enough. It's just like Imight as well kill and rape because fuck
it, we all die in theend anyways, So what's it matter?

(01:07:33):
Jesus? Yeah, good thing thatblack Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm
not saying, but like people fuckingoh, black pill, there's no hope.
It's like, but so what's theantithesis of that? What's okay?
So the white pill is obviously ifit's if it's already it's polar opposite in
the color spectrum, then obviously it'sstudying itself up as the opposite of the

(01:07:58):
black pill. And I'm just like, what is that is that? Just
like, hey, everything's going tobe great, no matter what you fucking
put in front of me, nomatter what facts prove that everything's not going
to be great, because I justgot back from my doctor and he wrote
me a note and it says thingsare in fact not going to be great,
but things are going to be great. That's the only thing I could
do. Blissful ignorance pill ignorant.Yeah, I mean I get blue sky

(01:08:20):
in it. I get being positive, I get being optimistic, I get
all that shit. Just because Iget something does mean I agree with it,
though I feel like nowadays I pickmy spots with optimistics and things I'm
optimistic about certain things I'm pessimistic about. But I'll quote you from I think
an offline conversation we had a fewweeks ago. I control what I can

(01:08:41):
control is at this point the clock'sticking. I'll be in a box within
three decades. I ain't gonna wastetime on an energy on shit I can't
control anymore. Absolutely so, isthat the white pill? Maybe? I
mean, I know I'm using themost extreme examples for both of them,
but let's be honest. This theseall, this terminology was born from the

(01:09:03):
Internet, and Internet culture is alwaysthe extremes of any to any subject.
There's it's it's run to the fuckingextreme ends of it, and that's where
the loudest people are. That's wherepeople are going to be drawing the most
attention to themselves. Neat Well,I mean, is it is it?
Is? It? Is it naiveto have optimism? No, I think
it's naive to have blind optimism.Like yeah, Like I think there's just

(01:09:28):
certain things, like we're on apath that is not good, that you
can like not, Yeah, Ithink I think we got to get a
hold on social media like that.I just wonder the the sociological damage that
has been done in the last twodecades. I think it's gonna be shit
they talk about in the history.But yes, there'll be a whole lot

(01:09:50):
to dissect there. But I alsodon't want more regulations on it a lot.
I feel like it's a beast that'sgrown beyond what we there's a right
answer for it because I don't wantregulations. I don't want the freaking regulations.
I feel like, you know,that's we sho feel able to say
what we want to say without withoutbeing censored. We shouldn't have to say

(01:10:13):
the unlived and I mean all theshit we've talked about before, right,
but without being it, without puttingrules on it, how do you get
on top of it? Well,that's the thing. Is regulations a fine
line, right, because if youlet the companies do it themselves, they're
just gonna do shit that's in theirown best interest, which they have every
right to they need to survive.But then again, right then you get

(01:10:38):
the government in there, you getsomebody who's just totally disconnected. I mean,
we had fucking people like less thanten years ago in Congress asking people
to still tell them all the internetworks. So you get like a disconnected
third party that has no idea.I mean there's definitely dangers with that too.
And see I hit this point whereI'm like everyone should just social media

(01:10:58):
is not what it was social media. I don't go on social media now
and see what my friends post.If I could just go on social media
and see what my friends post inthe order my friends posted it, I'd
be all about that. Yeah,bring back Facebook, bring back some og
Facebook, my Space. From whatI've heard from people older than me,

(01:11:20):
Wait, whenever you had to goto someone's actual page and it wasn't just
you logged in and it was justeverything right there at you you know,
information by yes, Well, likeif let's if I go to my Facebook,
it's a group, an advertisement,an advertisement, a family member,

(01:11:46):
a group advertising something. It's justand I mean in the time stamps an
advertisement, it's like an advertisement.Every other thing. The time stamps on
it twenty three hours ago, eighthours ago, four days ago, eight
hours ago. Sponsor doesn't have atime two days ago, five hours ago.

(01:12:09):
Like put it in order. Letme see what my friends say advertise
once every ten fucking posts something likethat. But this, this, the
timestamps alone show that there's something deeperto the algorithm. My argument when it's
the existential question that comes up allthe time, do you think humans are

(01:12:31):
inherently good or bad? Bad?And my next piece of evidence is the
internet, because look at how webehave when there's no governors on our behavior.
But it didn't we didn't just getthere. We didn't just the Internet
didn't just happen and immediately this iswhat we did. No, But I'm

(01:12:54):
saying, look at how we actwhen we were left to our own devices.
Here you can do and say anythingyou want. Look at what it
turned into. But when it wasyou could do and say what you want,
when it was truly that, wedidn't have what we have now.
We didn't have social media or evenforums, because to go back to when

(01:13:14):
it was truly you could do andsay whatever the fuck you wanted. It
was forums. You had forums whereyou would have administrators or mods who were
power tripping and they were allowed todo so for whatever reason. But you
didn't have like this, this masspeople under thirty walk around saying un alive
instead of kill offline, We've we'rein two generations. I don't think kill

(01:13:39):
will be used the way we grewup with it. And I'm being I'm
saying at the very latest two generationsbecause we all know that the cultural shift
has been fucking accelerating for a whilenow, and it just keeps accelerating.
This space ship has perpetual thrust.Baby, I mean yet, no,

(01:14:00):
I get. I mean there's atype of fantasy league called it used to
be called a suicide and now Iforget what you have to call it now,
because yeah, because alive that isall brought on from online, and
that was all brought on from peoplecoming in and stopping people from doing and
saying what they wanted to do.Chris, this is what you don't understand

(01:14:21):
because you just either weren't there orweren't paying attention if you were. And
I mean, like, this iswhat's maddening, because it's it's it's just
a factionally incorrect, fucking point ofview, and you could say and do
whatever you wanted on MySpace. Howmany fucking flame wars did you get into
on my Space? How many peoplewere docked on MySpace, you go to

(01:14:44):
Facebook, Facebook, admit, theymanipulate what you see. I have Facebook
open on my well, my laptopright now in front of me. I
can open it up on my phoneand scroll exactly, hit refresh and start
scrolling down and have two completely differentexperiences because I'm on two completely different devices.

(01:15:04):
Speaking of here's an interesting thing.On Saturday, I sent you guys
a story. Uh somebody, Oh, a conservative talk show host who was
Jewish was getting a lot of flackfor calling who was it? He called
a couple of people self loathing Jews, and just of course social media so

(01:15:30):
went, you know, did whatsocial media did, and he was an
anti Semitic person. And I sentyou guys this story and I ended it
with he is a Jew and neverfucking it never went through or either or
Uncle Mark saw it and fucking tookit out of the chat because it was
in the chat with you and anduh Todd and I would we were talking

(01:15:55):
and I sent something in the chatand it real time fucking blocked it.
Remember that, Waffles, Yes,Yeah, so yeah, I mean that's
when I knew, like, oh, we're being real time monitor, whether
it be a computer or a humanbeing. Does it really matter at this
point, because they're just going togo, you agree to it in terms
of service, show me where,Well, we've changed it since then,

(01:16:15):
and we by the way, wemade our terms of service where if you
sign it now you just automatically acceptfuture changes. Yeah, everything's retro or
whatever. The opposite of retroactive isfuture active. Yeah whatever. But once
again, these are people still basicallyengineering the experiences people have online. That's
why I said, we can't affordto be as lazy to go, oh

(01:16:36):
good, let people do and saywhatever they want, and it turns into
this. No, this is tryingto control people. This is what this
is. It is the exact oppositeof what you said. You want to
be awoke, you want to beaware of folks. Welcome to the fucking
real world. Yeah, I guessthey're getting us to do it to ourselves.
The best kind of censorship for themis self censorship on our part,

(01:16:57):
because it's the most destructive one forus, but the most beneficial for the
people who want us to shut upand just step in the line. And
I don't that's a conspiracy theory.Okay, then we're done talking like I
like because it's it's just when inhistory has it ever been different than that?
The people at the top want theunwashed peasants at the bottom to shut
up and follow the line. Whenthe fuck has it ever been different than
that? Why is it different now? Because it's you, Because you're alive.

(01:17:21):
You ain't special, motherfucker. Thankyou for visiting Christopher media dot net.
Thank you for visiting Christopher media dotthat. Our school system is meant
to train us to be on afucking hamster wheel for forty years, and

(01:17:44):
we've not we have not addressed it. We just oh, we just we
focus on different things. Why doyou think they're going after homeschooling as hard
as John Oliver just had a fuckingstory on how horrible homeschooling is. So
you know what that means. That'sin the fucking that's in that's in the
the progressives online crosshairs. The teacherUnion's not making any money from homeschooling.

(01:18:09):
Well, it's also because so manypeople pulled their kids out during COVID.
They're like, you know, youhave the schools, the you have to
figure out hybrid schedules, you haveto figure out how to get your kids
teach your kids what teachers are supposedto teach them, while people are also
trying to navigate working at home andhaving their kids at home, but only
having their kids at home on Tuesdaysand Thursdays some weeks unless the cases go

(01:18:30):
up, and then we'll go toevery other week and then it'll just be
on Mondays and Thursday. And itjust people were like fuck this and pulled
their kids out. I'll started teachingthem at home and were like, oh,
I didn't need to do this inthe first place. At least that's
my take on it. Well,then their kid probably got further by them
being taught at home. That's adifferent conversation. But the other thing to

(01:18:53):
with COVID showed the teacher unions isass I did was the the apostrophe the
s apostrophe there is trying to pronounceit because to me that to me,
the school closures were all about theadults. There was nothing about the kids.
And please show me the child mortalityrates. We're what three and a

(01:19:15):
half years into this. I'm waitingfor the piles of children's bodies. But
this year kids couldn't wear a maskon Halloween in school because it disrupts the
learning environment. You just made themwear a fucking mask every day until a
fucking year ago. It does notdisrupt their learning environment back then. It
does now why because they wanted to. That's all that you need to know.

(01:19:39):
Well, that's all you need toknow. This was kind of a
national story, been done for it, and this was kind of a national
story issue kind of ties in.Remember a month and a half ago when
one of the Lions players was callingfor people to wear ski masks to the
field and in the field, waskind of like, oh, you know,
you can't. It's a safety thingand you can only wear them in
the stand. Fucking two years agoyou were saying you could only come in

(01:20:03):
if you had a mask on,because those are masks we want you to
wear. Yeah. It really issad when you start to realize how petty
so many people get over control,control of shit that really has nothing to
do with them or is going toaffect them one way or the other,
just for the sake of controlling otherpeople. Yes, and I feel COVID

(01:20:24):
exposed that and it's like that's tome, that is like I've always had
the sneaking suspicion, the left wasfull of shit, and COVID confirmed it,
like there's nothing but a bunch ofhypocrites who do and say the same
shit of the people that they're baggingon. I looked at it. My
first example is mister fucking Kendall herehimself in California, Gavin Newsom, who's

(01:20:47):
locking down his whole state, andmeanwhile he's going to fucking parties, indoor
dining, no masks, right inthe heart of it, all our own
governor. Nobody can travel except me. Remember Nancy Pelosi and the hair slot.
Yeah, hair salones are shut downexcept mine because I need to get
my hair done because I'm on TVand that's part of my job. So

(01:21:12):
my favorite was we you know,we can't have backyard gatherings of more than
an x amount of people, butyou can go riot, I'm sorry,
mostly peacefully protest. Yeah, Imean yeah, I'm paraphrasing Adam Carolla here,
Yeah, fauci that Thanksgiving. Yeah, get together in your yard and

(01:21:33):
put the mashed potatoes and a Tshirt canon and fire them across the table
at Grandma. But yeah, whenit comes to Black lives matter, you
know, racism is a bigger problemthan COVID. Go ahead, like,
that's how you knew when that guywas compromised. That was the moment.
This is why, And this iswhat I've tried to tell people for years
and years about people like Bill Hicks. Bill Hicks perfect example, and it's

(01:21:56):
one we all three know. Soit's one of those few fucking like unich
Horn moments on this podcast. Alot of people think Bill Hicks was like
this hardcore communist socialist. What BillHicks was an anti authoritarian fuck office telling
me how to live my life,and and and fuck off trying to fucking
get me to tell you how tolive. Somebody tell somebody else how to

(01:22:16):
live their life. It's their life. Is basically the right to swing your
fist wildly ends in my face.Strapolate that out to everything pretty much,
And that was his theory on shit. That's where I fall. So I've
always been anti authoritarian, and I'veI grew up with religious people, so
I know all about that type ofauthoritarianism. And just like you, Chris,

(01:22:41):
I'm like, wow, a lotof you people who preach this shit,
you are the exact opposite of whatyou preach. Case in point,
any musician who's a man who getson stage and starts talking all this male
feminist shit, he's got more rapeson him than motherfucking Bill Cos I'll put
money down. I've seen the dudewho's being the creepiest backstage is the dude

(01:23:01):
who's preaching the loudest on stage.This is what a male feminist looks like.
T shirt, Oh yeah, douchebagplaying grab ass, grabbing titties,
bumping in the side tits. OhI'm sorry, grinding up on your girl
while you're standing there, because that'swhat they get off on. That type
of shit. Oh yeah, I'veseen all that shit, and nine times

(01:23:26):
out of ten, in the artisticcommunity, the musician community I was from,
it was always the dudes who wasfucking chirping the loudest. He cocking.
I'm a male feminist, I'm afemale ally sure dude. Oh yeah,
tick. You notice how a goodportion of the people who are publicly
against capitalism are doing very okay.I was just bringing this up the other

(01:23:49):
day. Prime example from our YouthRich Rate against the Machine. Hold Capitalism's
bad, Capitalism's bad, Capitalism's bad. Flash forward to fucking twenty years later.
Come see our show for three hundreddollars a ticket. Yeah, that
must have been nosebleed. Ones Isaw were six hundreds and that wasn't even
that was not even floor. Thereyou go, And the whole time they're

(01:24:13):
on a major label, you wererage. That's machine. You were part
of the machine. It just becausewe live in a capitalist healthcate man,
we have no choice but to participate. And it says that's what they'll tell
you word for word. No,I just thought Tom Morello was gone,
So it seems like the best systemone. Then if it forces you to
fucking deal with it, your systemno one deals with by choice, by
choice at least. Hey, andwhat countries have been what countries that have

(01:24:36):
been communists for fucking decades? Havepeople not been fleeing, willing to risk
their lives to get away from Goahead, I'll wait and I could put
a twenty twenty three finer point onit. Uh. That system, if
you go by the demographics of theband, brought two brown people out of
poverty, even though Tom morelland isnever living in poverty. Well you know

(01:24:56):
what I'm saying. I don't knowabout Zach Dela Roache, but Tom Morello
now he's from Libertyville, Illinois.He's mister whitebread. Gotcha. He just
got a quarter black dad, sohe can throw his fist in the air
and not get yelled at punk assparents. We're trying paying together. He
went to Harvard, motherfucker, bullshitask parents staying together, making sure he

(01:25:20):
had a good upbringing, punk assbitch putting his ass into Harvard and paying
for a fucking music degree from Harvard, which I'm like, that's the most
that's the most egregious thing that TomMorrell's ever done, and that's probably the
worst sin his parents ever did,was going, we'll pay for you to
go to Harvard and get a musicdegree from heart. Well, the fucker
you better study something you can makea living with, are right you're going

(01:25:42):
to Harvard? Fuck off with thatshit. Yeah, he studied music.
Better go to Julliard or Berkeley.What fuck are you doing at Harvard?
I might be wrong, by theway, he might not have been studying
music at Harvard. He might,I do know it. He studied music,
he said, at college, andI think it was Harvard. He
went to so but then, butif they're from the West coast, right,
you got to look into their originstory. Well, no, he's

(01:26:04):
from Libertyville, he went, hegrew up with fucking Adam Jones from Tool.
They grew up in the same neighborhoodthat I do know. Yeah so,
and I mean Adam Jones from Tool. This is real music nerd shit.
He had already made his bones inthe fucking visual effects industry. Yeah,
he worked on Terminator too. Hewas fine. So he made Tool.

(01:26:25):
He was like in the Brian mayboatlike yeah, yeah. He was
like, I'll do Tool until Idon't want to do it anymore. And
thirty three four years later, thereyou go, so right done with the
music nerd part of the podcast.Well you know what you're saying that all
stem from inclusive capitalism at times?What okay? Is it just a rebranding?

(01:26:49):
Is this like them going we gotrid of the crucifix? Here's Buddy
Christ Is that essentially all this is? Because I don't hear anything new.
I just hear a phrase that withnothing attached to it. But what is
what? What? What is theidea here to quote burial bombs? Oh
god damn it? Uh? Anew economic framework that addresses inequality and prepare

(01:27:13):
citizens for the coming changes. Andhow we live and work that reaches a
higher purpose beyond material consumption. Dude, tell me that you just did that
is communism? Well, what makesit is, at the end reaches a
higher purpose beyond material consumption. Thatgreater good bullshit. It's not a greater
good. Show me in the historybooks where it was for the greater good,

(01:27:35):
because it always turns out to benefitthe government, and always the worst
people find their way to the topof the government in those fucking type governments
as well. Not that we notthat we do much better, but Jesus
fucking christ Man, all you haveto do is look at the history of
communist dictators and they're excuse me,communist leaders. I won't even fucking I

(01:27:55):
won't even frame it by saying dictators. Just go look at numbers, and
go look at the numbers from themost liberal source you can find. That's
acceptable. By the way, there'sstill fucking they make Hitler look like fucking
he was playing tittley wings. Heyman, I'll put on my Johnny America
hat for this one. As farback, or I should say, as

(01:28:15):
recent as twenty twenty one, westill got motherfuckers clinging to landing gears on
planes to try to get here,just saying we lock up, per capita,
more people than any other country onthe planet. What we don't have
is a country that's so shitty wethreaten people trying to leave with death.

(01:28:36):
Like, for the most part,as long as you aren't wanted, you
leave the fucking United States. Imean, I don't know how welcome you're
going to be to come back ifyou just go and renounce your citizenship.
But as far as I know,there's really nothing stopping you unless you have,
like I said, a warrant orsomething and you're trying to get out
of the country. Yeah, that'sgonna pop up when you're trying to travel

(01:28:56):
out of the country. Sorry aboutyour lucke, dude, and thank you.
My lens is tainted. I hada job for seven years where I
worked with so many immigrants who camehere with Dick, and they're definitely making
more money than all three of usput together. Right now. Well,
this is what I've been saying,and I mean this, it's easier to
accept. I'm gonna have to worklike that when you don't have shit to

(01:29:18):
begin with. Case in point,someone who comes here with that as Joey
Diaz calls it immigrant mentality. Yeah, in ten fifteen years, Yeah,
they can be making more money thanall three of us put together. But
here's what they're gonna do. Theirentire life's going to revolve around getting themselves
to that position, getting their familyto that position. So that means twenty
four to seven. If they owna store, pretty much they do everything

(01:29:39):
with sleep in that store and everybodyin the family. When you got downtime,
you don't have downtime, you goto work, well, I guess
to go work at the store.The difference in this country between the you
know here and where they left isin this country they can do that and
gain some traction, whereas we're noI know where they came from. They
that's their life and they especially areyou an Indian where the cast system still

(01:30:00):
exists, you're just spinning your wheelstill you fucking die. I just the
fact that I walk into like becausehere in the Metro Detroit area, you
go into gas stations or what wecall party stores everybody else calls liquor stores.
That's all they are. A lotof times it's cal Dean something like

(01:30:21):
that owned and it's family owned,and if you go there long enough,
you can watch their family grow upand watch it because the kid worked there
and everything like that. And whenI was a kid, both my parents
at one point were business owners.My mom actually owned a storefront like I
had to like and I was twelvethirteen and my mom never met slave labor.

(01:30:42):
She didn't love, but she wouldn't. She didn't want me working,
not in her store. And that'slike, you see what you see the
difference of what I'm talking Like.Even my dad was like, Eh,
go wash the trucks, that's yourjob. And I'm like, what you
could get a fucking my little brotherto do? And he's like like five
seriously, But I mean just adifference in culture. Yep. Then I

(01:31:04):
could tell I'm second generation American becausehelped start this business last year. And
my sister was like, so,hey, you got this nephew that just
graduated. What you going to do? You know what? Definitely not that
mentality in my family's like hey,you giving out jobs. I got mofucker
right here and needs a job.Dude. You gotta remember I was twelve

(01:31:28):
thirteen when my mom owned her bookstore. I mean, she she could have
trained me. You know what I'msaying, Like she should have been like
you are at twelve or thirteen,you actually want to spend time with your
mother in her bookstore, a bookstoreby the way, that I had no
interest in what she was selling,any of the books, and it was
a very specialized bookstore sit I didn'tcare about. But for whatever reason,

(01:31:48):
I liked working behind the register andI liked working in the bookstore. I
just liked working. I don't know, same thing with my dad. No,
that's what I'm saying. That's thedifference. No, trust me.
I like if I was in yourfamily, your family had been like,
hey, come out over here.You want to know how to You want
to do the taxes too? Yeah, get audited once done, though.
I I mean, I've been workingsince house twelve. I wanted a new
stereo. Well you want, youwant it, We'll pay for half.

(01:32:12):
Gotta went out and got a paperout and I've been on the fucking goddamn
hamster wheel ever since. Yeah.No, it's how it goes, man.
There is there is, there's there'sHonestly, I know. It's Joey
Diaz and he's a comedian and shipand he says outlaying this ship because that's
kind of what his brand is.But his that that his uh phrase,
immigrant mentality. There's some real shipbehind that, dude. The one quote,

(01:32:35):
and I know it'll make you feellike a lazy American more than a
motherfucking Cuban fresh off the boat.Let me tell you the one quote I
always quote from my ex father inlaw because he's from India and he's done
well for himself over here. Hesays, there is so much money here
laying around, Americans are just toolazy to pick it up. I agree

(01:32:55):
partially, and as an outsider cominginto here, coming from probably a situation
where you had to hustle a lotmore than your average American, I can
see why you would think that.But I would say, I don't know
if it's fifty to fifty, buti'd say a sizeable percentage of people have
no idea that money is there orhow to pick it up, and they'd
be more than happy to learn.But no one's ever fucking taught them.

(01:33:16):
No one's ever even fucking said,hey, you know there's money just laying
you, just pick it up.Guys used to shit in the home on
the ground in India, So Imean, guess that, but you said
once you figured, I'm saying,yeah exactly. It's like, you know,
listening to uh one of the podcastsI listened to, they were talking
about bands of kids in what fuckingcountry was the Czechoslovakia in the thirties,

(01:33:40):
nineteen thirties, that is, Ithink that was it. But anyways,
ere talking about how kids is yetlike they at one point they lowered the
age for capital punishment till like twelve. It was in Russia. Excuse me,
it was Russia. I'm getting I'mgetting different parts of the podcast mixed
up. And they were like,how could they do that? Oh,
because kids were pickpocketing and they stealingfrom people. And they're like why,
They're like, because that's the onlyway they could survive. So if you

(01:34:02):
come from an environment where you survivedas a child by any means necessary,
you come to America where as longas you're willing to fucking jump through the
hoops and someone's willing to explain toyou the steps to make it through the
bureaucratic bullshit, that's just waiting aroundfor help for them. They're like,
I mean, I don't have tolike dodge the police and not get my

(01:34:23):
ass beat because I'm stealing from peopleto try to live. Okay, but
that's an impossible You take someone who'sraised here in America whose parents don't give
a fuck, basically like, Igive you three hots in a place to
fucking lay your head till you're eighteen, that's what the fuck I do.
I and I send you wherever thestate says I have to send you,
aka school, so I don't getthrown in jail. You turn that kid
on the street at eighteen. Thatkid has no idea how to survive.

(01:34:45):
So now tell me which culture is, which culture superior, which one's inferior.
Tell me that now. Now Iwill say, tying into what you're
saying, rich And this is notsaying this to you personally, but the
I didn't know argument is good tostart wearing thin soon, just simply because
we are now on like our secondgeneration who has grown up with all of

(01:35:05):
the world's information in their hand.I understand that, and I agree with
that. And there's also type inwork from home jobs and see what type
of fucking ads you get. Thentype in remote work jobs and see what
type of ads you get. Ididn't even realize that until a couple of
years ago. What search terms youuse dictate what you get back. The

(01:35:30):
more pedestrian your search terms, themore pedestrian your fucking results. Well,
meaning, if you put in workfrom home, you get a lot of
pyramid schemes MLMs bullshit like that.You put remote work, you get what
you're actually looking for. Yeah,thosels. Well, No, what I'm
saying is is, yes that onceagain the knowledge is there, but it

(01:35:51):
ain't just like, oh, Ijust fucking logged into Google and it told
me how to fucking live my lifefrom cradle to grave, Right, That's
not how the shit works. AndI mean, I don't know. I
don't know what it's like to havesome of the parents that, like I've
had friends have because I look atthem and like their parents were like,
you're not going to fail, period, and the fucking story, you're only

(01:36:14):
kid, you ain't failing. Andit wasn't like they coddled the kid.
They fucking gave the kid whatever hewanted. Wasn't that, it was you're
not gonna fuck up. Then Ihave a lot of friends who had narcissistic
parents who were fucking too busy livingtheir own lives, chasing pussy whatever the
fuck, and they didn't give afuck. And those are the kids who
are usually walking around going I don'tknow. And here's the deal. If
you get in their face and go, well, then you're stupid. You're

(01:36:36):
probably gonna get the shit beat outof you, because that's the type of
kid who doesn't know. If yougo, come here, man, let
me show you something, you mightbe surprised just how fucking quickly and apt
of a pupil that kid is.But I know it's easier to send the
sidelines and judge. Now we're gettingin the conversation about the school systems.
I'm getting in the conversation about fuckingparents not doing their goddamn job and dumping

(01:36:56):
their fucking kids. And this ishow we need to start looking at this
dumping the kids on the rest mustdeal with pation point go re lack the
destroyer. Why do I have toact like that? Bitches attend because her
parents lied to her and said she'sbeautiful. I know, but a lot
of states, and I think Michiganmight be one of them. I know
California is definitely one of them,for sure. Are getting rid of the

(01:37:17):
standardized tests because of I believe theterm I read today was learning loss from
the COVID years. So now we'rejust we're going to lower the bar because
we fucked up. We're just goingto lower the bar. I'm sure that's
not going to have any societal implicationsat all that goes into that goes as

(01:37:41):
far as development of babies. Theyhave changed the age that babies start talking.
Now, they've changed the age thatbaby start walking. Now, the
guideline's completely different. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Explain to me how they can justchange. You can't change a baby's
going to start walking, when ababy wants to start walking, a baby's

(01:38:02):
going to start babbling, when ababy wants to start babbling. Cow,
it's not gonna wait for you togo No, no, little one,
you don't start that for another twomonths. No. They changed it because
with talking, specifically, because kids, the majority of kids I would say,
go to daycare, right, andat daycare, all of the teachers

(01:38:25):
and all of the people who theywould watch woor masks and they couldn't see
their mouths move. So the interactionsthey were the normal interactions where they were
picking up mouth movements, which ispart of a baby learning how to talk.
They weren't able to see that,and they there is a total shift.
They changed the average age in whicha baby should start talking. Now

(01:38:48):
to take that into consideration. So, through our own dumb ass fuckery of
you have to wear this useless mask, we've actually stunted a generation development.
Yes like this, or at leasta at least a slice of a generation's
development. As Chris always says,I feel like I'm about to go into

(01:39:10):
an okay Boomer rant here, butI don't care if we're putting on the
Johnny America had again like that rightthere is like a there's been a mindset
shift in this country because I feellike when we were kids, or maybe
even a little bit before, whenwe were kids, like if it was
like, oh we fucked up,I feel before it would have been like

(01:39:33):
we got to step up our game. We are failing our citizens. Now
we're back to the goal post,sun wheels. Oh well, we fucked
up. Let's well let's lower that. Instead of picking up our game,
let's just lower the bar. Andthat is why we are no longer number
one America. I should say that'sone of many reasons, because working hard

(01:39:55):
might involve some effort. Pick upyour slack. You caused this problem,
fix it, don't like it's alocal sports talk guy here a couple of
weeks ago, he said it's hewas channeling you rich because he said he
was gonna start selling him to Michiganfans. He said, I'm gonna start
gonna start selling a goal post onwheels so he can move it whenever you

(01:40:16):
want. And like, that's wherewe've been for the last decade, decade
and a half. That's just allwe've done in this country. Instead of,
I don't know, making some effortto change things, we just moved
the goal posts. We just lowerthe bar. Look at that article you
sent about, you know, ourgen xers, the new boomers, and
I'm just sitting there like this.I like Online gen X's This is a

(01:40:41):
direct quote from this article. Bythe way, Online gen X has been
dismissed as boomer two point oh.I've been saying that for a fucking what
five six years about millennials, andnow millennials are no, it's it's gen
X's boomer two point oh. They'reboomer like this is we are nothing like
the baby Boomers. I don't knowhow MILLENNI don't see that as a generation.

(01:41:01):
The only thing I can think isthey're just projecting what they hate about
themselves onto other generations at this point, because we were, for all the
crying from malarial, we're the firstgeneration to do worse in our parents.
No, you aren't. There's awhole fucking generation before you that we grew
up being told that's how it was. Oh, well, interesting you say

(01:41:24):
that, because Woopi Goldberg, Iguess recently on the View kind of just
pretty much said what you said.She says, I'm sorry. You know,
listen, every generation comes and wantsto do better than their parents did.
But I'm sorry, if you onlywant to work four hours, it's
going to be harder for you toget a house. I feel for everybody

(01:41:45):
that feels this, but I'm sorry. We busted our behinds. We had
to bust our behinds. We didn'thave the option of going back. We
had all kinds of stuff. Shesaid, every generation is told you're going
to do worse than your parents.And she said, you know what,
people pick it up is absolutely nottrue. But okay, there was no
baby Boomer's parents telling them that you'redoing worse than we were. There was
no baby the world. The quoteuquote your greatest generation, in the Silent

(01:42:11):
generation, is what birth and raisedthe Baby Boomers? Do you think either
as a generation who was born duringWorld War One, fought in World War
Two, and fought in Korea,do you think that they fucking thought that
the Baby Boomers had a raw dealthan they did, especially the greatest generation
who also saw the Great Depression boom. And by the way, a lot
of the Silent Generation born during theGreat Depression. So their first fucking memories,

(01:42:32):
core memories for all you fucking millennials, are of like abject crippling poverty
and the entire entire that was theirentire world. That's all they knew.
So yeah, yeah, I guessfor me, what more I took from
that article was, if you knowanything about Whoopee's history, she does not
come from privilege. No, no, she was a fucking crack addicted hooker

(01:42:57):
by her own words, I'm notfucking putting words. She did a whole
one woman's show and one of hercharacters was a representation of the person she
became when she was the crack addictedhooker. There you go, and she's
going to stop whining and get towork because it's true. Look, I
have no problem working hard and workingmore than eight hours whatever, blah blah
blah blah blah, whatever the fuckit. I don't I don't even know

(01:43:17):
what's considered a normal work day anymore. It seems like people think six hours
a day is a normal work day, and I'm like, no, that's
a light day. Yeah, sixhours. Was like, do we even
get at lunch? Do we justget a break? Oh? There is?
I don't know. I'm sure.I think we've established the three of
us all hang out in very differentcorners of the internet. But a couple

(01:43:38):
of weeks ago, I know,there was one going viral, and there's
been a couple that have in thelast year or so of gen z h
people making little tiktoks about the crueltyand how terrible the forty hour work week
is. And I don't have timeto do anything in this in that,

(01:44:00):
like, like, well, Igot some bad news if you're going through
this at twenty three or twenty four, I got some bad news before you
about the next forty years. Andby don't have kids by the way if
you think now, at the earlystage in your career, you don't have
time to do anything. I don'teven have kids. I'm just telling you
this from an observation of watching myfriends and family. I just want to

(01:44:21):
know because if you're talking about whatI think you're talking about, well,
I want to make sure we've allseen it. It's the TikTok of the
blonde chick going, I can't worka nine to five, I have no
time for nothing and all that,like that's what I have to leave the
house at seven thirty and some daysI don't even get home till six thirty.
Like oh, I'm thinking, like, oh, you mean like everyone

(01:44:41):
else, I'm just thinking, howthe fuck are you? What is was
she supposed to be like twenty five? By the way, you've seen this
video Jazz, Yes, okay,and she's supposed to be like what twenty
five? Yes? How the fuckcan you reach twenty five and not have
had have never been out of yourhouse for more than fucking six hours at
a time, right, I thinkthat like working eight hours is being put

(01:45:02):
upon Like I'm not gonna lie,it sucks, but it sucked a lot
less at twenty five and then itprobably sucked even less than it did at
twenty five if I wasn't perpetually drunkor hungover at that point, and it
made it a lot easier, Ican tell you that. But I managed
to work eight plus hours shit fiveWait a minute, twenty five. Yeah,
twenty five, I was fucking Iwould. Yeah. I was working

(01:45:26):
at that pipe threading shop, workingall but three days a month, twelve
hour days, and the last weekof every month and the first week of
the next month we worked thirteen daysstraight and it was midnight shift. I
got off at seven in the morning, just in time to buy beer.
At twenty five, I was juststarting at Little Caesars, and yeah,
and I was working when I wasa manager. I was leaving the house

(01:45:47):
at eight thirty, getting home atseven thirty. I didn't know if I
time to do anything. No,I was in a band as well,
not a girlfriend. Yeah, Iwas living with my girlfriend at the time,
my girlfriend. Yeah, I wasn'tdoing a band thing, but I
was playing every day still. Yeah, I look back on the stuff,
not not at twenty five, moreat like twenty two for me, where

(01:46:08):
I was in school and working fulltime and had a boyfriend, and I
had my hobbies, and I wastaking I think twenty one hours per semester
because anything above was it fifteen hours, twelve I forget now, it doesn't
go towards like tuition, so theycan only charge you for so much,

(01:46:29):
so many hours for tuition, andI would always take over that because you
don't get charged for it. SoI'd take like the most I could take.
And yeah, like I mean,I was tired. I took a
couple of naps in my car acouple times. But dude, when I
was rich, when I was goingto specs Howard when we met, I
was at one point in the middleof all that. When I had the

(01:46:50):
internship, I had to be atthe radio station at five, I'd have
to go, and then from theradio station, i'd have to beat to
work at ten. Then i'd workten to six, and then or ten
to five, and then what classstarted at six? Like yeah, yeah,
I'd leave the fucking house at likefour thirty and then too a lot

(01:47:14):
of times too after school, Heylet's go out. You know, if
I went home right after school,i'd get home, I'd leave the house
of four thirty and I'd get homeat like ten thirty. And that's like
again if I was but again Iwas twenty so definitely a lot of nights
wasn't going home directly after school.So yeah, I mean what there's like
a couple of those nights we went, That's what I'm saying. After Yeah,

(01:47:36):
yeah, it's there is just likeI belaeme their parents, Like there's
just this new mentality of like Iwant everything, but I don't want to
do shit for it. It's justnot how the world works. It's how
it has never worked like that,and it has nothing to do with privilege,
and it was this. No,it's always been the fucking same.

(01:47:56):
When you're young, you don't haveanything because you don't have a career and
want pay you to do fucking shit. To do anything, you have to
gain experience, and you might haveto put in You might have to work
forty one, forty two hours,forty three, oh oh forty five oh
lo oh no what are you working? Payroll? Right? Yeah, exactly,
it's anything else said life. Youget out of it what you put
into it. You do minimum effort, you're gonna get minimum return. I

(01:48:18):
mean, but here's the thing,and this is the fuck. This is
the fucked up part this whole ballto where well thirty hours or six hour
shifts and all this this all gotstarted with Obamacare. What was the caveat?
What was the fucking exception full timeemployees over a certain amount of people
out of payroll? It's still there. If you average over it's I forget

(01:48:39):
the number. But if you know, if you have more than fifty employees
and they and any if if youhave over fifty employees and they average and
anyone averages over thirty five hours aweek, they have to be benefited.
Because that's the threshold. I knownow because we provide benefits and okay,
and yeah, and if anybody thatworks, well, actually no, because

(01:49:00):
we're under the threshold. But yeah, the threshold is if you know,
once we get to like over fiftyemployees, anyone who averages thirty five,
by law, has to be benefited. So the new standard became from the
company that I worked for, nobodydo not schedule anyone for over thirty hours,
because it gave him the room,right if the industry were from hey,
if you got to stay an extrahour or two, it gave him

(01:49:23):
the cushion to not go over thirtyfive. Yep, exactly, and it
trickled out or rippled out. Iguess I should say out from there.
And I mean, and what whowho was affected mostly by that the line
level, it would be younger people, people working, you know, younger
people, people working, non collegepeople, blah blah, bah blah blah.

(01:49:45):
So what happens we're ten twelve yearsdown the line from that. Now
you have an entire generation who thinkssix hours is a full fucking day.
I mean, I'm very like it'sa good thing that health insurance companies can't
go, oh, we're not goingto cover you because you have a pre
existing condition. But ultimately, allhe did was make him say, Okay,
we'll cover you, but it's gonnacost you a fucking arm and a

(01:50:06):
leg. All he did was guaranteethem customers, oh, and guarantee fucking
us out of full time hours.Now, and now we have a generation
who thinks that full time is abusive. Okay, I find it ironic.
It's called the Affordable Healthcare Act becausethe same insurance from the marketplace that I
had at the job I had forseventeen years was four times as much as

(01:50:30):
it was through my job. Howis that affordable? Just say? And
of course I made too much moneyto qualify for any kind and like that's
the other thing I'm going off inNew Rainy. Anytime I've needed any kind
of social safety net, I'm alwaystold, no, you make too much
money where. That's why I lovedit when I tried to fucking I tried

(01:50:51):
to get some help one time fromState of Mission Is. It's when we
had Rick Schneider, one tough nerdas our governor. They were like,
uh, well, how much youmake? I told them. They were
like, whoa, Well you're belowthe poverty line. I'm like, yeah,
you ain't got to rub it in, you know. I almost hit
her with the fucking Bill Hicks line, bitch, you go up to cripples

(01:51:12):
and dance too. But I'm like, yeah, so is that gonna like
help me? Well, no,you still make too much to get any
help. I make less than thepoverty line for a single person to make,
which if you knew what it wastwelve years ago, you knew it
was as pathetic. I was makingthat much money and I still couldn't get
any help because I made too muchmoney here, don't I grew up around

(01:51:32):
fucking white trash. Two bit hustlers. Don't tell me it's not a con.
That's a fucking con, dude.Somebody's pocketing in money and nobody who's
money is supposed to be used tohelp people who are in fucking dire straits
or in rough situations as being pocketedsomewhere down the line because it ain't going
to the people that it is supposedto. How could it? The law
made it illegal. You you haveto make underneath, underneath this to be

(01:51:56):
qualified. But still, if youmake less than the poverty line, make
too much for us to help.You explain to me how that works.
What is the poverty right? Whatis the point of What is the point
of making it such a big dealbecause it wasn't even a big deal in
my mind until it was pointed outto me by the state themselves that I
repeatedly did I make under the povertyas if that was going to do something
to help me or some way.No, the key is, you gotta

(01:52:18):
have kids. If you got amouth, exactly what, they'll throw fucking
money at you if you're on yourown. Fuck, you know, the
one time I applied first, theone time I was like, oh,
man, I long story short,left company had to come back and position
below and it was an all positionsignificantly less what I was making. And

(01:52:39):
I did the math. I waslike, man, if I could just
have someone to pay my fucking couldbuy my groceries, I get through this
until I work my way back upthe food chain. And nope. Because
it's funny too. The way theywere it, it wasn't like how many
people in your household? It waslike how many people live at your residence?
So my my dumb ass was honest, me and my friend, you

(01:53:01):
know, what do you make?What does he make? And they're like
no, and then they come backwith your household makes too much money.
I'm like, household, you justask so many people fucking lived here?
And I know you're the government thathas access to things like my address and
social Security number for both of us, and I know you'd eventually figured it
out, so it wasn't even goingto go down that road. Gee,
thanks and fuck you. That's aboutright like they did. Hey, way

(01:53:23):
to go, State of Michigan.You just expect your roommates today. Hey
you get Hey, your roommate's fuckingup. Just chip in there's a way
around that where you could have answeredquestions to where you could have lived with
fucking Elon musk and it wouldn't havemattered. Oh I know you didn't know
that because nobody fucking told you.Also because you don't come from a family

(01:53:44):
who has basically used like are youwelfare? I mean it's basically what it
would be. I come from afamily who taught me all the time and
effort you could put doing into thatyou could have a fucking job. My
family was just you don't have ajob, go get another one. Okay,
yeah, that that too. Itain't that hard. The hardest part
is dealing with the idiots in thein the in the uh interview process.

(01:54:08):
But you know that's about it.Like no one ever told me go get
on unemployment, and every friends like, go get on an unemployment. I'm
like, why I can go getanother job. I don't need unemployment.
So about what you need? Man, you've paid into it, that's your
money. And I do think atsome point when I was in high school,
the conversation with my dad was hadwell it was like the government coming

(01:54:28):
to save you fucking work. Well, I mean that's got used to working.
You're gonna be doing it. Seemom, mom, My mom was
a me growing up was kind ofa microcosmo with the fucking world we live
in now. My mom was abig fucking fan of the state fucking taking
care of her and paying everything forher, and up until she lost she
lost custody of me, she gotit, But my dad flat. The

(01:54:53):
only time the state's ever gonna knockon the door is to draft your ass.
They'll stick a rifle in your handuntil you go kill somebody and go
die for your country. But that'sall you can expect from the fucking government.
You just don't need to understand thatright now. So, I mean,
I apparently apparently adults don't tell theirfucking children this shit anymore. Like,
yeah, like the government's here tosave you. Yea, My expectations

(01:55:14):
were set really low, really early, Like, do not expect anything from
them except they're going to fucking havetheir handout. And has your experience proven
that wrong? I mean, whenI've needed them, I've been told to
fuck off. So yes, wellno, it hasn't proven that wrong.
No time the government wants to dowith you is when their hand is out,
correct, I answered your question incorrectly, and too, there's another I

(01:55:38):
mean, that's when it stands out. There's been a couple of instances where
I've applied for you know, youknow, different things where I've needed some
kind of state or federal No.No, what college comes to mind,
because my parents like cashed in shitlike bonds and shit that they had been
you know, that they had purchasedfor things like college. When it came
time for financial laid, got no, you made too much money this year.

(01:56:02):
Really, my appears are like ifyou've seen our W two's so yeah,
because they you know, shit likethat. It's like you get penalized
too. I feel like, especiallyin my whole experience of unemployment, I
feel like I was penalized for doingthe right thing. Because now there's money
they've owed me, they've owed mefor three years and I'll never get it,
and they've they officially win. I'vegiven up, like I think I

(01:56:26):
called once this year, and Imean, dude, they take everything,
they'd spend half a million dollars infucking agents of the state and prosecutors and
judges' salaries to get ten thousand dollarsfrom you, and they do it with
a fucking smile and talk talk thatNuremberg shit, I'm just doing my job.
Yeah, they owe you money.Yeah, we'll get to it when

(01:56:47):
we get to it. If weget to it, Well, hey,
where do you think corporate America learnedit from? Oh? You just show
up with infinite resources and bleed outthe small guy. Okay, cool,
I mean that's the corporate America does. Who do you think did at first?
Kings queens? I don't know,Yeah, exactly, that's what I'm
saying. Yes, it's another conversation. I don't want to go down because

(01:57:11):
it's getting late. We got towrap this up. And this has been
a fucking all over the fucking playshow. But whatever the fuck? Yeah,
do we have anything? What isit? I mean, I fuck
it. I'd rather listen to peoplefucking actually say what they're thinking and go,
that's more fucked up shit happened?What do we think about that?
It was fucked up? Everything sucks? All right? Yeah, all right,
good talks you next week. Youknow what I'm saying. So I
don't know. Like I said,I think we just need to be the

(01:57:34):
show we are and stop trying tobe the show we think we are.
Should we take callers. Dude,I've thought about it if there was a
way to fucking do it live,but there is. There's too much for
pain in the ass. I'm notdoing it. I'm still looking into fucking
Okay, what type of fucking audiointerface when I need to put a fucking

(01:57:54):
mic up here? Now? Theuh uh uh speaker? As I said,
I just fire it up down herewe go live, just to set
up we got going just open upthe speaker, fucking sight fucking make sure
everything's routed into that correctly. Okay, I'm gonna guarantee we're never gonna do
this. I'm gonna guarantee whatever weregonna do this because I'm gonnall you exactly

(01:58:15):
what's gonna happen. And I'm aboutto guarantee it's gonna happen by saying it,
because I'm a speaking to existence.But it's gonna happen either way.
For someone on someone's gonna post thelink on for Chane and we're gonna get
some crazy ass calls. That's whator whatever. That's what's gonna happen.
How do I know that because thereare literally threads on four Chan every fucking
night of people posting links to shitlike that and people calling in and trolling

(01:58:36):
them. Oh anytime. Uh,there's been a few Adam Carolla episodes over
the years where he's done that wherethey're like, hey, we're live on
this app right now, and yeah, because there's there's no screener, there's
definitely. Yeah, there's been acouple of people that have said some crazy
shit and then just loged doubt youknow, like you know they'll you know,

(01:58:57):
taking this throughing out of the sternfans playbook. You know, got
a Bubba bo to YouTube. Yeah, thank you for visiting Christopher Media Dot.
Thank you for visiting Christopher Media before. When you wrap it up too

(01:59:18):
much, you teased us for thestory from TSA. Yes, we have
to hear the story from so Hgoing to the Orlando Airport last Saturday morning.
Oh you rode the monorail. No, No I did not, Orlando
they got rid of it. No, it's there. You just didn't have
to ride it, Okay. No, I just had my lift dropped me

(01:59:42):
off right where I needed to be. But just walk in and I got
a backpack, and I got acarry on size luggage and I got some
a bag with some golf tea's init that are were longer. So I'm
like, whatever, you know,I can take over the cockpit with these.
So I'm gonna try to check thisbag. But the line for checking

(02:00:04):
the bag is just fucking ridiculous.I'm talking about like walk in the door
line starts here, that kind ofshit, and the line is like six
hundred feet it was. The lineends six hundred feet fucking you know,
to the right. So like,nope, not doing this. Did the

(02:00:24):
math in my head, like itwill be shorter time for me to go
through security. Have them pull mybag aside, go hey, you can't
bring this through and go yeah,throw it out, then for me to
wait in this so fucking do thething. Get through security, they flag
my bag like all right, herewe go, cool golf teeser five bucks
a bag. I don't give alike because at this point my flight is

(02:00:48):
like boarding in like five minutes.Like I've traveled a few years. I
forgot. I don't have the statusI used to. I have to wait
in the regular people lines. Butso they go through my bag and they
pull out my travel steamer and I'mlike, oh, I'm like, is
this thing too big? Or whatand he points at the reservoir. It's

(02:01:10):
like this is more than I forgetwhat the thing. This is more than
whatever ounces of water. I'm likehe ounces yeah. I'm like all right.
So I'm thinking, like, fine, I just find the nearest trash
can and dump it out. Andhe's like, if you want to dump
this out, you gotta go out, get rid of it, and then
come back through line again. I'mlike really like yeah, He's like,

(02:01:30):
or you can leave it here.I'm like, but I can't just take
it over to that trash can rightthere that you can see and dump it
out. He's like, Nope,you gotta get out and go all the
way through security. And I'm like, well, I was prepared for this
kind of confrontation because they do nothave the part where you can self print
out your bag tag and you know, basically like the rest of the world,
that you can start doing their jobfor him, uh tag your bag

(02:01:55):
so you could just drop it offat a self service kiosk, but I
said the line was ridiculed lessly long, so I pocketed the tag. I'm
like, oh, I got thistag right here. Can we just put
this back in the bag and tagit and check it. No, sir,
if you want to same thing,you gotta go out and come back
through. And I'm like, Jesusfucking Christ, just passive aggressively, just
go enjoy my steamer. I gottago. And it's just another example of

(02:02:19):
fucking like minimum wage gilded cage.Like it's just annoying, like I wanted
to be Like like Buddy, Ican name four other violations in my bag
for starters, like my deordorant isway more than the whatever ounces. I
also got some golf tees in mybag that are far longer than I know
what you're allowed to bring on aplane. Not to mention the fact that

(02:02:42):
I brought weed to Orlando with me, but that's not your report's fault.
But I just thought, like it'sjust annoying, like over some water that
they could have seen me get likethat was that that was the annoying part,
Like you could watch me go getrid of this. Hey, this
is I just think that the TSAattracts those types of people. But I

(02:03:03):
mean, to me, this justspeaks to like, this is just the
kind of customer service you we've cometo expect. This is the baseline customer
service. Now, we don't givea fuck how much you're inconvenienced. Our
rules are not to be fucking broken. But here's the thing, because I
was reminded during my two stints atthe airport in the last week, I

(02:03:24):
fucking don't miss any of this,but I was reminded. When I first
started traveling, I was on theside of the passenger. At the end,
I was on the side of theairport employees, because we're back to
you teach people how to treat you. Like, after seven years of seeing
the fucking animals people are when theytravel, when they're at the airport,
when they're on the airplanes, Iwas like, it's amazing. We don't

(02:03:46):
see more people. We don't seemore airline employees on the internet fucking slapping
motherfuckers. We're just punching them.I mean, I get all that,
but I'm just like, I cancount on okay, how many rude interactions
customer service interactions I've had with peoplewhen they have had no excuse to be
rude to me. I'd have totake off my fucking shoes to count how

(02:04:09):
many I've had in the last week. I'm not even exaggerating, like it's
just it's just how it is now. Man. Nope, we're not there's
no anyway, not gonna fucking workwith you don't care. I mean,
in case in point I you know, I'm heading into work, They're like,
hey, it's Halloween. Once yougrab a bag of candy, will
pay you when you get back.Just bring the receipt blah blah blah blah,
will push them out for the kidsin case they come in. All

(02:04:30):
right, yeah whatever. So Igo and have a stroke over the fucking
price of fucking candy these days,but I buy it. I get up
to the counter and it's at thedrug store because it was the only thing
that it was fucking open that hadthe candy like in the bags that I
needed on the way to work.And if you know about drug stores and
their receipts or receipts are fucking ridiculouslylong, like you could write goddamn war
and peace out on the fucking things. And so the screen has, you

(02:04:51):
know, blah blah, and wouldyou like to donate this, would you
like to do this? Do youwant cash back? And I'm just no,
no, no. By the way, I'm already running late for work
because I had to stop to dothis shit. So I'm kind of annoyed
as it is, and they slippeda new one in there. Do you
want a receipt? I wasn't payingattention. I hit no. I was
like, oh man, I amso sorry. I am so sorry.

(02:05:13):
I hit no. I need youto print the receipt out for me.
She's like, I can't do that. And I'm like, I'm you can't
do that. No, you can'treprint a receipt. No, stop lying,
panter, you won't. Yeah,exactly. Is there gonna be a
problem, storry and I just Ijust kind of shook my head and I
laughed, and I was like,no, there's not gonna be any fucking
problem. And I just walked thefuck out and I'm just like, that's

(02:05:34):
completely dead eyed, inflexible, don'tcare. I'm not gonna fucking lift this
one fucking finger press this button,press this button that says printing hands of
your receipt. I deserve to makenineteen dollars an hour for what the other
day. The other day, I'llfucking call him. I don't give a

(02:05:55):
fuck. No one sponsors this podcast. I was at a speedway and I
get up to the I was atBucks CVS, yeah, a start way,
and I got to the counter andI got hold on a minute because
she's on the fucking phone or someshit. And Speedway has recently installed self
checkouts, and I'm like, well, that's why these motherfuckers are here,
and they're going to continue to proliferatethe speedway by my employment. You know

(02:06:16):
that speedway or excuse me, sevento eleven bought all the speedways. Yep.
I don't know why. If thisis indicative of the quality of speedways,
but this speedway, none of theslurpeing machines are going, None of
the fountain machines ever work. Ifthere is food on the roller grill,
it looks like it's been there forfour fucking days. I'm not exaggerating.
I know what five six hour oldhot dogs look like, and I know

(02:06:39):
what hot dogs have been on aroller grill for two days looks like they
look like that. Are you'll talkingabout gas stations? Oh yes, yes,
yes, they have a self checkout. Oh yeah, because no one
does their fucking job. A guess. All these things that I'm describing,
they need to be maintained by employees. The employees literally sit in the back

(02:07:01):
watching through the fucking doorway on theirphones and cy rolled their eyes, sucked
their teeth and everything else when youfucking go to the front, unless you
go to the self checkout. Yes, wow, I listen. I think
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty surewe have Speedways here. I just assumed
that you had something else that wasn'ta gas station. I had never a

(02:07:25):
self checkout and a gas station.Well, Speedways, it's like they they
the convenience store of Speedway on theirlittle higher end as far as yeah,
they got like like better food andship and a wider selection of ship and
a beer cave and all that crap. It's a convenience store that happens to
sell gas at this point. Butthe point is is that that is the

(02:07:49):
baseline expectation of customer service. AndI mean, so you got the and
you got it from the TSA,you get it from a fucking random person
in a drug store. And likeI said, this Speedway, it's just
like this. I only stop forgas, and that's I'll only get gas
there if I'm using a card.I refuse to go in and deal with
them people or the self checkout.I just I won't do it. That's

(02:08:11):
how unpleasant they are. I don'tknow, how do you have a job
working with the public and here thatway, I am actively avoiding your fucking
place of business because of your employees. Well that one, yeah sounds like
you could. That's a bullshit one. I hope in corporate because I generally
I seek them out because I'm allover the Tri County area and when I'm
stopping for gas or I'm looking forlike gas and launch at the same time,

(02:08:35):
Like I seek out speedways because theygenerally are consistent and it seems like
they hire people who give a shitgenerally. But yeah, there's some franchises
out there because yeah, dude,you well, I don't have to tell
you about it. If it's afranchise, I feel sorry for the owner.
And if it's corporate, that's probablywhy it's still going like it is

(02:08:56):
and people are still working there,because that's to go super super hyper local.
But I don't I have to tellyou about our seven eleven that as
a franchise, the worst seven elevenin the world anyway, that is,
And now we are really podcasting fortwo Yeah, I just don't have any
like personal affiliations or excitement over anygas stations. You'd ask me ten years
ago, I probably would have.You don't have a go to place that

(02:09:20):
you stop at, like in generalfor gas smokes or vaporize or whatever.
See that's the thing I don't.I don't vape anymore. I don't really
drink beer. Like if I'm goingto a gas station, I'm literally just
stopping, putting my cart in,pumping gas and driving on me. That's
what helps me avoid the shitty customerservice is, like I said, just

(02:09:43):
being able to pull in and justget gas because I don't smoke anymore.
But if I have to run in, oh yeah, there's certain places like
the customer service here, I'll doyou one better than that. For thirty
years now, I will avoid likeis a box of used needles behind the
AIDS clinic. The fucking White Castleat Telegraph in ninety six. They get

(02:10:07):
if you're from the Detroit area andthe West Side. You know what I'm
telling you, Like White guess youknow what I'm talking about. For thirty
years, they get your order wrong, they take forever, they throw you
attitude. I've seen them act.I mean, I have watched with my
own eyes, watched them spit inpeople's food, and that's when I was
like done, never eating at thisone again. I don't care how drunk

(02:10:30):
and hungry I am, and wantingwhite castle is fun. Thirty fucking years,
Jess, think about that, thenineties, nineteen ninety three when I
came back from Florida. Excuse meninety four, so twenty nine years.
Whatever round up makes the story alittle bit better. But all that fucking
time, and it's never been good. And that's and people tolerate it.

(02:10:54):
Why because you have to drive almostdouble digits worth of miles to go to
a fucking white castle. It's notin Detroit, and it's even worse.
No, I feel you. Ifound myself in the mood for some white
castle. Left the Lions Monday nightgame a couple of weeks ago, and
I went to the white castle thatis closest to us and typical of their

(02:11:15):
behavior back in the days when Iwas frequenting it far more. I waited
forever and my order was wrong.Now, to be fair, the error
was in my favor. I gotmore food than I ordered, but it
was not the I was so inthe mood for just a straight up,
just like just a straight up whitecastle, like just that is what my
drunk ass wanted. Like, yes, I just want I want the mustard.

(02:11:37):
I want the onions. Give itto me. And I got some
crazy like something with like French onions. It was like the steak Burger or
some shit. I was like,oh I was I was disappointed. I
got more than I ordered. Butyeah, you want white castle and you're
drunk. You want white castle.So they're like, oh, so you
want the chicken rings. No,I don't want chicken. I don't prinkle

(02:12:01):
cut fries. I don't want none. I don't want any of the dessert
ship because they got crazy ass shiplike cheesecake on a stick now, and
I'm like, what, No,it's a it's a Jeff Dunham puppet,
isn't it right? I just wantit white? Can't I like cheese on

(02:12:22):
my ship? And I like,my asshole to her clip that out of
context. But I get to thehalpenio cheese and put the yep, put
the mustard, the pickle on thatbitch and we're good to go. And
I still they can't get that right. And pickles are supposed to come on
the fucking thing, like I haveto tell them please put pickles on my

(02:12:43):
sad. It's like ordering a cheeseand going, would you please, what
would you like a whopper with cheese? And could you please make sure to
put cheese on that? And they'llget pissed if they and then when they
when they forget, and you go, I'm sorry you didn't put cheese on
it. And I even asked you, really can I just ask you to
solve world hunger? No, Iasked you to fucking throw a slice of

(02:13:03):
cheese on my ship. What ishilarious about what you just said, too,
is like you're not asking for anythingcrazy. You're asking for Hey,
can you give me something you maketen thousand times a day? Exactly?
Exactly? I don't know. Youknow what? We need to do a
fucking a live stream just so peoplecan call in and be like, I
want to know if crystals is badin the South and out west. I

(02:13:26):
want to know if white castles arethis bad wherever else in the country they
have white castle because this can't ifthis is just a Detroit thing, we
need to do something about that.You know, trust me, you know
you're slumming for white castles, andI've done this on more than one occasion
recently. When you're buying the frozenones. Oh dude, I don't just

(02:13:46):
like I trust steak Patty from thedollar store more well just it's more like
like I don't want to drive allthe way there. It's a little too
late. I might be a littletoo drop, but seven eleven's right at
the corner. No, dude,trust me a few dude. If you
if you come down in the morningyou see the white castle box in the
garbage, you know I had agood night. That the what the telltale

(02:14:09):
is, Yeah, like I would, I'm feeling I was feeling no pain
when I got home. If yousee the white castle box in the garbage
for me, my old roommate,you say, oh, I know.
I know Rich is either gonna wakeup with a beer in his hand or
wake up pissed that he can't havea beer in his hand because there's like
empty coney boxes and the styrofoam coneycontainers in the fucking trash. He's like,

(02:14:31):
that's the only time I see themships. Although I know I had
a good time after the Monday nightgame because I come out on the day
after to leave for my trip andthere's like four empty white Castle boxes riding
shop. I was like, oh, cool, give it a fuck exactly.

(02:14:54):
I'm so jealous of you'll have whiteCastle. Have you had white Castle?
I have had white Castle one time? Whoaw, I was coming home
from Nashville and there was one,I think in Murphy'sborough and we we saw
it and we had just seen recentlyHarold and Kumar go to white Castle,
and so the obvious choice we hadto go. Yeah. I mean,

(02:15:20):
you guys got crystals in the southand in the Southwest, but it's just
not the same. I don't knowhow to put crystals are drier. I
don't know. I don't know howto explain it any better than that,
Like you bite into them, it'slike it's it seems like it's the same
bun, it's the same how ofmeat, as far as you know,
they go with the square meat andall that shit. But see, they
were obviously they were very different tome. Whenever I had white Castle is

(02:15:45):
I could tell a huge difference betweenthat and crystal. But now like my
brain has completely melded the two experiencestogether, and that's just what I think
of whenever I think of a WhiteCastle fair enough, I also feel Harold
and Kumar. While the movie wasgreat, one was good, the Christmas
one. Uh, they misrepresented WhiteCastle to the stoner culture because to me,

(02:16:07):
I don't know about you, rich, White Castle was always drunk food,
if ye big time, if youwere getting high with your friends,
if it was all about we justsmoked nine blunts. It was all about
Taco bell, yes, like yeah, if there was just weed, it
was just weed crazy. There wasa Taco bell around happening. If we

(02:16:28):
were drunk, is White Castle?Yeah, White Castles are yeah, exactly
drinking and Taco Bell. But DelTaco when they come, when they started,
when Del Taco showed up around here, Del Tacos and took over what
Taco Bell spot for the high ons, like Dan's go get that big ass
burrito. And I mean it waslike a fucking two pound burritos. Like

(02:16:50):
oh yeah they still good? Ohdo they? It's been so long as
I've ate a fucking Del Taco,it's been relighted. No, I still
get the Dell beef whenever I gothis one time this summer, I was
like we were just we're in aloop. It's like McDonald's four times a
week or three times a week,Taco Bell a couple of times a week
every now and then go to Burgercame in one day we had the Del

(02:17:11):
Taco watches, like, God damnit, something different. Del Taco wins
the cheese battle. If they couldput Del Taco cheese with Taco Bell everything
else, I want Taco bell sauceon Del Taco's tacos. That's that's that's
that's my that's my mix and mash. I feel Del Taco shreds their cheese

(02:17:33):
there, whereas Taco Bell that comesshred All Taco has really fucking thin,
shreaded cheese. I'm saying you can'tget cheese. To say that as someone
who's worked with cheese for a longperiod of time, you can't get cheese
to stay that thin and feathery likefalsely. I guess this is what I'm
getting at. Like that is thatis freshly graded. It has the appearance

(02:17:56):
of freshly graded. Okay, we'relike ranting about cheese and fast food.
We're running on a fun topic.I have been getting high. Yeah,
all the stones have been hanging outtogether, like Dann I got a munch.
He's like a motherfucker now, manRich and I have been getting high
tonight. So yeah, here's thebitch of it. I didn't even get

(02:18:20):
high until halfway through the fucking show. And I didn't get really, I
just like took a couple of fuckingpuffs because I was like, I haven't
smoked all day and I'm kind ofin pain, Like, yeah, I
was that the bitchrioll at the beginningwas pure, uncut hatred for me because
I was I was the only bloodpressure medication. That's the only drugs I

(02:18:41):
was under the influence of at thebeginning of the show. You know,
they took them hits. Now we'retalking about food for half hour. I'm
just saying, like, I'm sureif I go back and listen to this
show, I can be like,if there's no audible cues, like I
didn't mute the mic when I hitit, I'll be like, that's where
it hit. Okay, I'm highright now. I can hear the change

(02:19:03):
in me. I don't want tokill everybody. I just want like half
the people in the world just togo away. I bet you for the
people who are listening, and ifyou are you know, and if you
did, if you do agree withme at well, I almost gave the
other the wrong the way old socialmedia at Jen Exhausted pod on social media,

(02:19:26):
people dig listening to food because itis one of the things that everybody
has in common. When I wasback on terrestrial radio for a minute and
I was like actually doing like kindof research and like how to get topics
that would actually like drive interaction withpeople, that was one of the things
that came up, is like therewas one radio host or whatever that kept

(02:19:48):
track of all the topics that theytalked about and you know, highlighted the
things that got a response. Andanytime they talk about food, like just
you want to, I absolutely agreewith you because you don't mind. Fucking
icebreaker. Since moving to the eastside of the fucking metro Detroit area has
been talk about food, talk aboutMediterranean food. Mediterranean food on the west

(02:20:09):
side of the suburbs means Greek overhere, it means Lebanese. Eies yep,
damn right, And it's like everybodyimmediately is like really wow, and
everybody starts talking. It's it's thebest ice breaker I've found moving to the
east side. So and it is. Hey, I also like it because
if someone goes, oh you likeLebanese food, there's this place. Yeah,

(02:20:31):
tell me, tell me all theplaces. I'll try them all at
least once. Hey, what's thefirst bait? What's the base of the
hierarchy? It needs food, safety, shelter, three things we all have.
And if you don't like Lebanese food, you're wrong. That's you're just
wrong. It's just all there isto it. I'm sorry if you don't
like some chicken form or something's thefucking wrong with you. And I know

(02:20:52):
that's a tower chicken of Lebanese food. I know, I know that's what
motherfucker say, your piece white peoplefood. Okay, that is something like
whitey has co opted and turned intosome And I believe schwarmer is Greek.
What's the best Lebonies like dish in? You won't eat it when I tell

(02:21:13):
people what it. It's raw meat. It's called kibbi night and it's prepared
before you eat it. It's gotcracked wheat and a whole bunch of spices,
and you eat it with fucking Cyrianbread, not pewter bread. Pewter
bread and cereum bread. Fucking things. Camel jockeys out there, and know
what I'm talking about. Pew thebread that's Greek, but yeah, and
hummus like good hummus. No,I need to know what what is it

(02:21:39):
called kibbi night? But yeah,if raw meat freaks you out, don't
There's there's baked kibbi. You canget baked kibbi and that that's the addition
of pine nuts to it. There'slubia that's essentially okra and beef and tomato
sauce. Um. I said toBooley, Okay, here's the thing.

(02:22:01):
Everything you're describing like I've tried allthat shit. I'm just saying. When
I'm like I need to grab somethingthat I can fucking throw in a microwave
and reheat, why the fun wouldn'tI grab a chicken swarm of sandwich.
It's got the rice, it's gotthe fucking tomb, it's got the pickled
pickles, has got the pickled beets, it's got the chicken in pickled beets.

(02:22:24):
I got, dude. That isone thing I can't get down with
my Arabic brothers on is like,y'all, you can keep the pickle beets.
You understand how white I am right, like the fact that I like
any food with any fucking spice,and it's amazing. Come on, dude,
it's true. Pickled beets are indible. Bell Omeo Monkey, even fucking

(02:22:45):
Cow signed on it. But richSide notes place right up seventeen mile.
Ikes, you've asked for an authenticplace around here. I wonder if I
stopped in there. Yeah, butthat is definitely My family's been going there
for years. That is is CamelJockey, owned and operated in Easter West

(02:23:05):
on sexteen mile from where we're atWest. That's seventeen I might have been.
I might have went to that one. Okay, I'll have to.
I have to check, because I'vebeen to a couple and they, like,
I'll hit a couple a week andthey all kind of like start going
together and know something really sticks outto me or they're really close. Man,
most of the ones I'm close.Yeah, most the ones on grub
Hub around here. When I lookat their menu, I'm like, whatever,

(02:23:26):
a white person picked your menu.Next Anyway, this is what I'm
saying, Like, I can't Ican't fault them because like if this was
twenty years ago and he's like,hey, man, I really want to
get in the drinking moonshine. It'sgoing to like rop my liver. I'll
be like, Okay, you've cometo the right place, and he's like,
I got this Ever Clear. I'mlike, where'd you buy that?
Michigan? Okay, first of all, that's no, that's fake ever Clear

(02:23:48):
and Everclear's bullshit. Anyways, we'regonna get you two hundred proof fucking shit.
So I understand where you're like,you're not on the real shit.
But man, you have to understandrob me. That's where I kind of
draw a line. I don't eatraw fish. I don't eat know raw
fucking beef. I ain't eat noraw port, no raw nothing. I'm
good on that. But I've alwayshad people go and I asked, if

(02:24:09):
you eat sushi? Yeah, andI go, really, so, no,
only thing I eat raw is pussy. That's it. So you'll eat
raw fish. But again, it'sit's a special kind of meat, like
all the fats like taking it's likethe leanest meat you can get, like
all the fats taken out of it. Again, it's prepared or literally right
before it's served to you, becausethis is it is not made to sit

(02:24:31):
around like boom boom boom. Hereyou go eat this ship now you know
of it? Yeah? Interesting,I'm just like I said, I just
can't do the raw thing. Man. Oh they put onions in it and
olive oil. And I'll be honestwith you. You said that they do

(02:24:52):
a baked version of it. Iwas like okay, and you were like,
yeah, they put pinenuts in it. I'm like, see that that
is what ruined it for me,Like, really, pine nuts. Fu
out of here with that. Itworks. It's the same, it works.
I mean I can eat around it. I don't know. I'll try.
Hey, man, if there's anythingI've learned to be a lot more
adventurous in what I eat with them. With the baked kibbie, I'll put

(02:25:13):
it in the bread and then dipit in the hummus. Yeah, now
here's here's the thing. Now,is tomb Lebanese? Or is that?
Is that like sauce? Really?Maybe? Then maybe that is the garlic
sauce. Yes. I was toldby the person who English was like maybe
a fourth language, who was runningthe shop I was in. He's like

(02:25:37):
that it's pronounced tomb like a tomb. You would you know, put someone
lamb to rest in. I'm like, oh, but it's not spelled the
same, okay, So I assumedit was some Middle Eastern thing because it's
I have typed in tomb on Google, nothing about food at all. Maybe
I'm tomb food. He keeps askingme, did you mean time? Hold

(02:25:58):
on? Let me see why thegarlic sauce was called one. My grandma
call it love. Yeah, it'syogurt and garlic l e b n e
h. How to make lebna?Lebna? How to make lebna? Yeah,
that's it okay now see because theywas explained to me is that if
it has yogurt in it, thenthat's more of a Greek spin on the

(02:26:22):
on the recipe, Yeah, traditionaltomb Lebanese garlic sauce. Yeah, I
said, you type in lobna firstrecipe that comes up. First line.
Lebna is a soft Middle Eastern cheesemade from strained yogurt. Yeah, to
bold, creamy garlic sauce and dip. Lebanese tomb is easy to make it
home to help the food processoring alittle good technique. Blah blah blah.
I like, how to make it. It's it's pretty much garlic and spices

(02:26:46):
and ship blah blah bah blah.But yeah, it's it right in there.
Yeah, boy, you're gonna,I don't know what you got.
You better fucking find a Jewish discoto bomb or something. Get your fucking
Middle Eastern card fucking build back up. How do you not it's in the
name Lebanese garlic sauce. I doyou not know about this ship? Get
my sand card revoked? Yeah,Jesus Christ. I mean Irish people,

(02:27:11):
They're like, you want to drink, and I'm like, no, because
I'm a fake Irish away. Idon't drink because I can tell you this
stuff my whole life until right now. I've just called it the garlic sauce
scene now because when I started theone restaurant I went to, they referred
to it as tomb. When Ievery other restaurant. This is why I
stop calling it to him. Igo to, I'm like, can I
get a side of tomb? AndI'll sometimes get like blank stairs and I'm

(02:27:33):
like, okay, did I justmangle that word? Like it can't be
that hard to pronounce, right,And they're like, do you mean the
garlic and I'm like, yes that, so now I just call it garlic.
Yeah, we have no Lebanese foodanywhere near us, like nowhere near
us? Wow? To look uprestaurants like we have Greek. You know,

(02:27:56):
I kind of living down here.Here's here's the good news about the
lemonese garlic sauce. It's great sourceof antioxidants. It has anti inflammatory properties.
Studies have shown that it'll help lowerhigh blood pressure, high cholesterol.
So yeah, there you go,besides your breath smelling like something that would
be out of like Dracula's nightmare.It's a good lube. It's good for

(02:28:20):
you. There you go, goodfor you and delicious. How many things
can you say that about it?It's made of garlic, oil, lemon
juice, and salt. And it'sfunny because I can really tell the places
that use more lemon juice than us. Same with the hummus, Like some
hummus is really tart and I'm like, whoa, okay, my assholders puckered.
And then other hummus, I'm like, is there any sea flavored?

(02:28:41):
This is? It's like paste.I'm a hummus critic because I was raised
on hum between my grandmother, myaunts and my mom I was raised on
homemade hummus, so I'm a toughcritic. And yeah, that restaurant I
steered you towards his good ship.There you go, there's there's our unofficial
steal of approval. Well, no, it's our official steal of approval,

(02:29:03):
but they're not a sponsor. SoMikes and Sterling Heights, Michigan for those
of you local and are listening.For those of you aren't tough shiit,
come to Michigan. I feel likethat's slogan. Well, and then once
you're here, tough shit, you'rein Michigan once to get a republic want
to get a Republican governor back,that'll be the new tough ship come to

(02:29:26):
Michigan. It'll be a new tourismslogan. Yeah, we are about we
are about due to bounce back theping pong game. And our next governor
is going to be a two termRepublican. Where's it? Three terms?
Is the limit here? In two? Two? Yeah? So it'll be
only what one more year? Weonly know we uh election was last year?
Oh no, we get fucking thisis only year one. We get

(02:29:48):
three more years? A big wretch, buddy, that election was only last
year. Oh that's right, becausethe twenty eighteen Yeah, she put medical
marijuana on the fucking ballt in twentyeighteen, or mechicl marajuana was put on
there, and yeah, that waslike she wrote that into office. Absolutely,
yeah, that was definitely there wassome talk between the like her fucking

(02:30:11):
people and and you know, hey, can we get this on the ballot?
Do we know anybody owe us anyfavors because you know, young people
tend to vote Democrat, right,But hey, according to that article that
I referenced earlier from game about whatwas it gen X, the new uh
gen x, the new uh whatdo you call it? Or the new
boomers? Yeah, the new boomers? And I completely lost r I was

(02:30:35):
going with that anyway, So itwas time to call this a fucking night.
Let's go for the third time.I'm trying to pull up the goddamn
article and it pulled up fucking fourarticles and I'm like, none of these
articles I want. And then bythe time I got over that, I
was like, I don't know whatthe fuck I was looking for this artist
as I'm tired, it's been along day, yep, So uh,
let's send this bach at gen exhaustedpod on the social media machines. Uh

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