Power Trip

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Thank you for visiting Christopher Media DotYet. Welcome to Jen Exhausted and I'm
Chris, I'm Rich, I'm Jess. That's Chuck Dean flavor Flave. Oh
we're back, did it? Wemade it? And let's see what's the

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day today? Where what's it's likethe twenty first of February, we were
like, what three weeks away frombeing four years away from when the world
went fucking sideways from fifteen days toslow the spread. Yeah, from Rich
and I and Earl on a podcastgoing holy shit, they just shut Vegas

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down like that was that was happeningwhile we were recording, but during March
Madness, while we're recording a sportssports podcast. Yeah, this kind of
change. That changed the tone ofthat podcast real quick, all three of
us going, oh shit, they'restopping money from moving. This is serious
in America. This is serious.We don't stop commerce for shit. It's

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America. When they yeah, whenwhen Sin and Salvation is shut down for
business in America, somebody thinks somereal shit's going down. That's all I'm
gonna say. Yeah, but Iguess four years later, turns out,
according to CDC, it wasn't.I mean, they didn't come out and
actually say that, but they didcome out with guidelines this past week that

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essentially said, oh, I justgot to be free of a fever for
twenty four hours and you can goback into public. So now I believe
it is officially the flu. Aren'tthose same guidelines for the flu? Yes,
So here's here's my question, becauseit obviously wasn't just the flu.
I know too many people who hadit, and the people who got fucked

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up the worst off it were peoplewho had a bunch of pre existing conditions
comorbidities. Is we all got toknow the term before they attained the COVID
virus if you remember a certain pressconference from nineteen ninety one. That's really
funny to you anyways, So myquestion is has it mutated to the point

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where it's just like the seasonal flunow? Because oh, also, by
the way, are bad it camefrom a lab. Sorry, Well,
let me be clear. I'm notsaying it's not gonna fuck you up.
People die from the flu, butI guess what I'm getting you are very
ill, to begin with, theelderly, the people, the very young,
the people with like severe heart conditions. I guess the point I'm getting

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at is turns out it's not ascommunicable as we were led to believe,
is what I guess is the pointI'm trying to get at. Now here's
the bitch of it. I myselfcan trace back both times I got it
to be in exposed to the personwho had it three days prior, and
having nothing for three days, wakeup that fourth day and it's like,
oh shit, here we go.That's not the that's not the normal flu.

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So all I'm getting at is that, Okay, so this is just
what a lab made, man made, jacked up version of the flu that
got out. And because they werelike, we really don't know how bad
this could be, they shut theworld down. Well, the flu,
the flu, you, I mean, that's how the flu's always worked for
me. Two to three days later, I'm just I'm fine, fine,

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fine, that I'm down. Imean to get at what you're saying,
Rich, I feel a lot ofa lot of measures were taken because of
maybe we don't know, so we'rejust gonna take the extreme measure. I
mean, I guess I can seethat. I understand that, But you're

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talking, See here's the thing,like this is one of those things that
like, I'm just like, itonly takes a few key people to get
together and go, how could wefucking use this to our advantage? If
you don't think Pfizer was one ofthose people, I think you are woefully
And the minute their fucking marching orderswent down to the fucking chain of command

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and down the pipe, they werenot questioned. They were taken as if
they were given in completely good faith. And we were hounded for questioning that.
But only when it came from theblue team. Remember when the red
team was talking that our current vicepresident is on video saying she would not
take any vaccine Donald Trump recommends,which, by the way, is the
vaccine that they're now telling us weall have to get. We're on what

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year four of it? I gthis is what I'm getting at. I
can't put it past these people notto have fucking people in high enough positions
and saw the writing on the walland said, okay, so we're going
to have this overreaction to the possibilityof how bad this might be. How
can we use this to our benefitpolitically? And I mean, what has

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happened in the in the last fouryears is going to make me think different.
And here's the deal. I getit. If you hate Trump,
you think that he's done everything horrible. I'm not arguing he hasn't. But
what Trump has done is exposed tohypocrisy of the system that looks the other
way when gears in that system whogot there in the approved method aka not
Donald Trump, they look the otherway for their fucking crimes that they do,

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which is the exact same thing thatDonald Trump does. Yep, that's
the most important thing that he's broughtout to light. And what does the
what does the left driven media callit? They started ramping this up before
he was even in office? Whatabout is your entire fucking political philosophy is
based on what about it? Howmuch? What about it? Fucking cock

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sucking hypocrites? Choke on a dickand died? Sorry go ahead, well
no, but yeah, how much? I mean, we've definitely figured out
we all have different news feeds,but how many how much what about ism
do you see from the the leftleaning things in your news? It's I
feel that's what the New York Timeshas been making money off of the last

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decade. And then if you daredo what about ism from the other side.
Then you're you're shamed, you're belittled, you know, you're all of
these things. The fact that youhave people who have somehow decided, people
who had no interest in Taylor Swiftuntil football fans who are probably a political

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to the for the most part,got tired of hearing about this bitch when
they're trying to watch fucking football andwatch highlights and watch fucking former football players
and experts talk about football instead ofher hairstyle and the suite and whether or
not she had a drink too earlyin the game or not, or whatever
the fuck that they were talking aboutwhen they made that a political stance to

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be her fan and to defend herblindly like they do everybody on their side,
everybody in their tribe, and sheis literally everything they ran. They
just rail against a billionaire. Sheflies everywhere via private jet's. She is
a to put it in words,they would understand ecologically, she's a walking

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karmic nightmare. Wow. But theyworship her. Why because it pisses off
the people we hate. None ofit, guys, none of this is
real. None of this is noneof this is genuine. This is all
be mad at somebody so you're notmad at who you should really be mad
at. When has anyone ever tryto distract you from what is genuinely hurting

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you, to show you something that'snot hurting you and be like you need
to be upset about that? Whatdo you call that? What do you
call that? Let's let's fuck putthe fucking cards on the table. What's
that call manipulation? Huh? Andwhen you dare to question or bring up
that, Hey, words and actionsand what you're saying and telling us is

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gonna happen in two different things andthey're not matching up. No, you're
crazy, Na, everything's matching up. What are you talking about? What's
that called lying? Gaslighting? Imean, if we're gonna if we're gonna
fucking dive in with with the elet's go all the way. I forgot,
I forgot my Yeah, I forgotmy young people dictionary. Don'ts pissing
on my leg? No, trustme, Rich conversations we've had over last

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month. You know, I'm abig purveyor of you. I don't give
a fuck what's coming out of yourmouth. I don't get what you do.
That's who you are. You cantell me all the ship you want.
It's what you do is what iswho you are. And yeah,
there's like it is to the pointwith just stuff that I see every day.
Again, there are so many thingsI don't send you guys because I'm

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going to know why why bother becauseit's it's just there's just so much hypocrisy
we see every fucking day and nobodycares. Like like when real hypocrisy is
in in in our faces, wejust that's cool. It's not we're burnt
out. It's not that people don'tcare. We're burnt You can't do a

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thing about it. Like I knewwhat was up when the Twitter files came
out last year and everybody's non reactionthat to me told me the temperature of
the room, Like okay, likeessentially, don't get me wrong, I
love this every week, but thattold me we're just screaming into a void
as like as like not just thisshow, but just any rational thinking person

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in this country is screaming into avoid. Because when it was shown that
holy shit, the government is actuallygoing to social media manipulating what they're fucking
what you're seeing all of the shitthat people were clutching pearls about from twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty, the governmentactually was shown that it was happening.
Nobody gave a fuck. Yeah,but again, but again did they not

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give a fuck that Tybee's crazy,Elon Musk is crazy. That's what everybody
was saying. That was the temperatureof the room. See, I never
saw any of that, not inreal life. I saw, you know
what, I presumer boughts at thispoint saying that I never heard anyone saying
that a lot of people I talkedto didn't know about the Twitter files.

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That's the thing. Okay, holdon saying, just real quick, is
bots just a catch all shorthand term, or do you really think that these
are like fucking like just well,I guess you know what. Up until
recently, I would argue that nowthere's just people that are assholes who troll

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online. But with fucking AI beingis the rise of it, and as
quickly as it's refined itself rich,it's proven. Well take no, no,
no, no, no no nono. But everyone, but you
said something that was very important.You said, I just assume everything I
see like that as bots. Nowthat's now, if that's shorthand for AI
ship, whatever, the click farms, whatever. But I can tell you

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from personal experience there are a lotof people with the whole lot of time
on their hands just sit at homeonline control people. And I mean,
like they say, outland as shipand they stir pots with no fucking care
in the world about the political whatwherewithal that goes out behind it. They
just want to stir the pots.Yeah, no, I know there are

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those people. But whenever I seethings like in mass whenever I see a
bunch of people jump on let's saya hypothetical article about the Twitter files and
all the comments are just flooded withhow disingenuine and just an unreputable Elon Musk

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is, then I assume that that'snot people, because information is being presented
that would captivate anybody. Whenever yougo and you read the Twitter files like
they were very comprehensive and they didn'tleave much room for questioning, you know,
like it was they were facts beingput out in front of you.
This is what happened, this iswhat we found. We bought this company,

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this is what we discovered within thiscompany. And whenever you have that
and you just have a bunch ofpeople posting just very rudimentary. You know,
Elon Musk is stupid and it's justflooding the comments, which is where
people go looking for camaraderie and lookingfor like, holy craps. Anyone else

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is blown away by this as Iam. I think there. I think
the powers that be are a couplesteps ahead of us, and that they
just have butts flooding comments now thatmake us feel more and more isolated in
our thought processes, like we've we'velike we were essentially told that the twenty
twenty engineer towards the end was fuckingengineered by our own fucking U media and

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arms of our government, and noone gave a shit. People who have
been screaming about UH election interference forfucking eight years didn't fucking give fun.
Well they did, though, andthey said things, but it just at
that point things were still being eitherblushed down the drain with from all the

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other comments that I are either trollsor by or whatever they may be,
or they were still on other platformsthat weren't Twitter, they were being censored
and just not displayed so you couldgo and you can say whatever you want.
But people weren't gonna see it.I just think it's funny that no
outcry from anybody on the left sideof the aisle, like you won't read

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it. Just all that shit fromthe suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop,
and that is election interference. Butbecause it came from your team and it
didn't come from oh the evil boogeymanRussia, we don't give a fuck.
No, we should. The callis coming from inside the house. We
should give a fuck about that.But do what you can't do anything and

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go post on Facebook about it rightnow and no one would see it unless
someone has like turned on notifications specificallyto see whenever I post something. What
you can do? You know whatyou can do? Honestly, you want
to do something about it. We'refucked, Chris and I. We're done.
We're fucked. You're never gonna procreate. I'm done pro creating.

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You got a shot to actually dosomething, Jess. You've got kids that
are still possibly listen to you gotit. Got to raise them to recognize
this type of hypocrisy. You've gotto raise them to not tolerate it and
not put up with it and notgo along with it just because it's the
easiest thing to do, and maybemaybe enough people do that for a generation
or two, something might actually comewith something. But there's nothing that's going

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to happen overnight, snap of ourfingers. Nothing. There's nothing that anyone
can say. We've had this discussionbefore, Jess. If someone floated down
from heaven performed things that, byany fucking stretch of the imagination, we
would have to view as a miracle. We used it was like, and
I'm Jesus, and everything that's beingthat's in here, that that's been predicted

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is going to be fulfilled just asit was said. There would be people
standing up still going no, Nope, that's an alien or some shit,
and ain't Jesus. It just doesn'tmatter. You can't convince people of anything.
All you can do of these beliefs. You're not gonna shake these people
out of their way of thinking.You were able to be shaken out of
your way of thinking by whatever thefuck happened to you, whether it be

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like I think in Chris. Ithink with Chris it's more of his nature.
With Jess, is probably something thatyou witnessed or it happened to you,
or you witnessed happened in somebody.Not everybody has that. Not everyone's
born with that type of fucking analyticalmindset, Chris, that we were talking
about. Not everyone's had their eyesopen like you have, Jess. Yeah,
I mean seriously, And the wayto do what I'm talking about is

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stop obsessing and treating this shit likeit's celebrity gossip. It's bullshit, it's
nonsense. It does not matter inthe grand scheme of things. What can
you take care of you and yoursaround you? It? Yeah, that's
it. It's pretty much. Idon't go insane is my blow off alve
once a week for all the doomscrolling I do, and then the rest

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of the week I pretty much don'tworry about it. Got shit to do.
I too have shit to do,but I find plenty of time to
worry about it. Oh and ina lot of ways, I'm more like
you just and Chris when with thatshit, I swear to God it it
in almost in almost ten years I'vebeen doing this shit with Chris. It
comes and it goes how easy itis for me to leave this show when

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we log off for the week.Sometimes I can do it. Sometimes I'm
like, man, that shit's botheringme. And it's been like two three
weeks to Welcome to How My MindWorks, folks. So just how much
I sweat a show that has likewhat double digits worth of listeners if we're
lucky, Imagine how much I sweatshit it actually matters in life. After
ten years, I think we're upto two dozen, all right, fair

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enough, gone from a dozen totwo dozen. I'm just saying there was
a couple of weeks that our showhas got a lot of clicks on YouTube
for some reason, and I'm justlike, huh, And I've looked at
those episodes and I'm like, there'sreally nothing crazy in there, So I
don't know why the algorithm would havepromoted it. But if you're if you're
listening via YouTube and you're one ofthose people who like I'm talking about Hello,
thank you for listening, you canleave a comment Welcome to the Terror

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Dome. Yeah, come on down. But no, you can leave a
comment it is YouTube, or youcan just report it and flag it,
which is if that's what you werelooking for. I'm sure it won't be
hard to find content to report andflag. And if you do comment on
YouTube. None of us are goingto kill ourselves just putting that Outum,
wish it all you want, we'llbe here next week. But no,
I mean it's we kind of wekind of talk about it a lot,

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but we don't really name it.And I mean, ultimately, I think
a lot of this show is allthree of us, two different degrees and
varying degrees, and at different times, trying to deal with the fact and
come to terms with like, there'sjust shit that is so fucking outlandish and
outrageous to us and our sensibilities thatgoes on in this world, and there's
nothing that can be done about it. You just you're listening to three people

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come to terms with that every week. I guess we get together every week
and go what the fuck? ButI mean there are their ways to deal
with it, which is to gookay instead of coming together and go what
the fuck. I mean, sometimesyou just have to do that. I
get that. And it's not justnecessarily the podcast I'm talking about, just
in dating people's day to day lives, try to focus on something I don't

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know, not this bullshit. Startlooking at this the way if you hate
sports, look at people talking aboutpolitics's entertainment the way you look at people
who talk about sports or celebrity gossip. If you hate that, and once
you realize that it's the same thing, you're just like, can we talk
about something that has subsubstance? CanI have a conversation with some I'd rather

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just have fucking with a stranger.I'm I'm now irritated at how comfortable people
are based on how I look.They assume where I am politically on some
political compass and start dumping their bullshitout no shit right like you, which
ironically it's like, huh, you'rejust you're making assumption wide, sweeping assumptions

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on me based on my appearance.Hmm, what's that? You? What's
that? But yeah, I ratherwith those I rather just instead of those
type people come up and just makean assumption about my political affiliations and just
start dumping their bullshit on me.Just come up and just say, hey,
nice weather, Huh. I'd ratherhave but now bullshit small talk and

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listen to you fucking random stranger andyour ideas about politics, because I'm sorry,
most people don't even know what thefuck they're talking about. Hey,
you know what I say to randomstrangers now probably the last two or three
years. Good morning, good afternoon, And I smile and I say it
too, because the other part ofthis is fuck it. Like I think

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what you're getting at, Rich islife's too fucking short to just walk around
letting shit that you have no controlover just bother you. It goes like
it kind of goes back to thatdo what you can about what you can,
fuck everything else. And I understandthat that once again, that is
that is a very fucking black orwhite an every way to think of the
ship. But dude, that's whatthat. Dude, that's Buddhism in a

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nutshell. I mean, it's theideas behind stoicism also, But that doesn't
mean that it's guess what these arejust philosophies or religions or whatever that would
be a mixture of those two beliefsystems. However you want to look at
it, take what you will fromand move on. But I mean,

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it's like it's just like I justI really feel like all around people right
now, if they're truly tired,like Jess, like you said, if
they're truly burnt, they're just likewe're burnt. We don't know what to
do. We don't give a fun. Prove yourself and prove the people around
you. Enjoy what you have leftof your life. Yeah, I don't
know how to put this any otherway, so I'm just gonna put it

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very bluntly and very put just It'sit make them off as dramatic, but
it's really the truth. You wereblessed slash cursed to be born at the
beginning of the end of the AmericanEmpire. There's nothing you can do as
an ul to stop it. Allyou can do is I curse the drop,
bless the slack on the rope that'saround your neck, because you're already

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falling and that rope's already fucking fashionedaround your neck. There's nothing that can
be done about it. Might aswell enjoy the trip until that final fucking
that the last bit yanks you upand breaks your neck, and that's a
wrap on you. Because I don'tknow how else to put it. Man
Like, I hate that I'm fuckingin public seeing people and I know it's
an election here by seeing how hostilepeople are towards anybody else who they assume

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something about their fucking political beliefs,it's madness. To me, I mean
this, this just how just stopand how much of this shit really affects
your life. I'm telling you togo out and actually do something that would
affect your life. And you're probablylistening to me, going shut the fuck
up. It's most lives. Yeahagain, which is for the fifth time

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since we've been left. They justkeep getting more and more important. And
oh this morning I was reminded thatour elections have been being interfered for for
years. It's that that one intwenty twenty, the safest one we've ever
had. It's crazy. Well,it's the same with you. That's why
I can't talk with people about It'sanother reason I have a hard time talking

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with people, even people like considerare very dear friends of mine, about
politics, because if it's not theapproved party line that they've been fed and
are regurgitating, they want nothing todo with it. And if you're like,
okay, wait a minute, you'rean intelligent person. You know about
fucking world history, you know militaryhistory. You know things like mutinies and
coups and conspiracies are par for thecourse with all of these fucking things all

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throughout history. But you just assumebecause it's America, and it's right now
while you're alive that Nope, noneof this is happening. There's no there's
none of this. Everything's up abovethe board. Unless your party tells you
that there was a conspiracy, thenthere's conspiracies. Then it's okay to believe
ins tinfoil hat shit any right there, guys. It's like it's like it's

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like starting to date somebody who isin a constant state of psychosis and in
a constant break with reality to thepoint where they're walking around talking about not
being human, being some creature thatdoesn't exist, and so are we all
and all this shit? What what? Why would you get in a relationship
with that person? You wouldn't Whywould I engage in debate with somebody who

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is that intellectually dishonest with themselves?Do you ever notice the most secure and
safe election we've ever had was onewhere a half the country couldn't leave their
house and be they have actually provenmore than one address was getting or getting
ballots mail to them. But yeah, it's the safest and secure election we
ever had. Yeah, because youhad the popular half the populace under control,

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well, and the vote how longthe voting counted, counting took,
and how all the controversy surrounding it, all the controversy surrounding it, like
all over the place, And they'rejust like, nuh uh okay. I
have a cousin who he he drinksa little too deep with the fucking the
conspiracy theory kool aid my opinion abouta lot of things. But hey,

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I'm sure he could say the samething about me with certain things. But
he brings up a valid, ifnot hyperbolic point, which is, the
most people in the history of everof this country came out to vote,
yet I can't find one person whoadmit to vote for the man. Now,
I highly doubt that my cousin can'tfind one person who won't admit to
voting for Biden. But I cantell you that I don't really know who

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voted for Biden, and most ofpeople I know who admit they voted for
Biden are kind of like, yeah, I voted for Biden. It was
either him or Trump, and Ivote for Trump. There's no like his
point is still a valid point,even though he went about in kind of
the past aggressive bitch ass way ofmaking it, which is no one actually
supports this man. They just hatehis opposition that I heard it today.

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I forget who what podcast I waslistening to, but somebody said they could
have ran a bowl of soup intwenty twenty and it would have beat Trump.
Yes, I have never in myliving years seen this country and it's
government and its bureaucracy move with suchforce against one citizen. I've seen it
when we want to go to war, seen it. I've seen us like

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damn near come together in unit afternine to eleven. Even though I'm gonna
be honest with you, I've beensaying this since fucking I've been saying this
since nine to twelve, two thousandand one. It wasn't as fucking unified
as they make it out to be, folks. There was a lot of
fucking contrarians run around going, well, that's what we get for sticking our

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nose everywhere and blah blah blah blahblah. All those people got what they
deserved. They were working at avalid military target. All that shit has
been said since literally the fucking firsttower went down and we realized it was
a terrorist. You could go back. I look at certain forums online and
see in real time if the forumsare still there people posting and saying that

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shit. How do I know becauseI was online reading it at the time.
Oh yeah, message boards were athing just once Againeah God, it's
so hard to explain the people whoweren't there, and then people who are
just fucking I'm sorry, but peoplewho reach a certain point in their life
and pull their head out their assand they start looking around and they're like,
wow, those thing's all fucked up, and it's like, yeah,

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it's been this way since well forever, we've been trying to tell y'all,
Right, now we got to fuckingstop and get you motherfuckers up to speed.
It gets It gets tiresome, man, it really does, because you
can't You can't explain half this shitwithout getting lost in the fucking high grass
and minutia of it, not towhere you really explain it. So how
the fuck do you start with someonewho doesn't even understand basic fucking politics in

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their own country, let alone thehistory of politics and geopolitics around the world.
Well in the issue too, isthat people go off the deep end
with it because once you realize certainthings and once like the glass gets shattered,
for you, and you see theveil has been lifted, and you're
like, oh crap, Like Ihave been intentionally deceived for so long.

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Then I've seen a lot of peoplestart to question everything, and I think
that's where like the big Q andnon followers come from, you know,
like looking for just something where they'relike, okay, so everything's a lie
and this person's been saying this,So I'm just gonna have to go because
they're right. I mean, whatif this is a lie? And what
if this is a lie? Andand I mean what if we did never

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go to the moon? I don'tknow, just just saying easy, easy,
yes, but it's what both ofyou. You're rich, what you're
getting at, just what you're sorry. The joint right now where it's hard
to come by, but I've beenpodcasting with too long rich because where I've
come to on Trump is like,man, both people on both sides don't

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want this guy in power again.Why you know, I think it's always
good what you say. Read thebooks. They don't want you to read.
Like there are people but right andleft who like, we don't want
this guy. Why why don't youlet me just let me just put this
way, even though I say readthe booksy, I want you to read
there is a little bit of anamendment I've added to that, and just
understand that you're still probably gonna readabout eighty five percent garbage. It's just

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someone didn't want you to read thatgarbage. That's all. Just because some
one didn't want you to read itdoesn't mean it's sacred text, is what
I'm getting at. Okay, thereare assholes who run with that a little
too much, you know what I'msaying, understood, But so yeah,
so that all started from new COVIDguidelines. It's because there for a while.

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Do you all remember back when itwas twenty one days. Yes,
that was the whole reason they startedup the fucking the unemployment and shit was
oh well, especially if someone getssick because they can't go into work for
At first it was three weeks,then it was fifteen days, then it
was seven. No, it wasten, and it was seven, and

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it was five, and then Iheard rumors about it being three in the
last year, but I never gotconfirmation. And pretty much it's like,
do you have COVID, yes,do you feel good enough to come into
work? Yes? Okay, comeinto work. Yeah, oh yeah,
there's that. Oh and by theway, did I kind of love the
research done on this podcast? Peopleare saying no, but uh, there's

(29:33):
been actual there's been actual reports ofOh yeah, the whole six feet thing
completely just pulled out of our ass. No, that's true. Falchi that
was Falciuci was like it was arbitrary. Yeah, he was like, I
don't really know where that came from. It just kind of showed up.
That's like, oh, okay,so all these grocery store stickers on the

(29:56):
floor that people were getting in,this bit's over. That was just something
they threw out there just to makeyou feel good. You know, why
not walk? Can't it hurt?And that's what I'm saying. And that's
the ship that riles me up,because when they were saying it, they
they they said it was so muchfucking conviction and right, and like you
said, people were getting in fistfights and grocery stores and you were,

(30:18):
and you were shamed in a fuckingoutcast if you do, you're five and
a half feet from me. Andyou know, Adam Corolla told fucking stories
about getting harassed by fucking uh copswhile he's on a horse trail because he
was outside and not six feet fromsomebody like and they and all they made

(30:40):
it up the whole fucking time.And that's what bothers me. You sit
there and you're making sit up,and you're sitting there acting like like you
know what I'm saying, Guys likejust like you have scientific basis for what
you're saying, yes, and youjust made it like. That's called lying.
If you're saying one thing and actinganother way, that is called lying.

(31:03):
And I'm gonna throw this out there, and I'm gonna find out if
any of my friends in the stemfield listen to this, especially one in
particular. I won't throw I won'tI won't call out any names. I'll
let this person remain anonymous. Butall my friends in the stem field who
sat and talked to me one onone and said things like, I'd stake
my career, I'd stake my reputationon the fact that this was not a

(31:29):
man made virus, it did notcome from a lab, that all the
precautions that we were taken were supposedto be taken. But see, I
can't even say that because none ofthem, not all of them, agreed
on that even even fucking three fouryears ago, it was them, them
masks. Those things are garbage.You might as well not wear anything.
Mm I mean like, and I'mgonna tell you what. Even if you
have the masks, they tell youto have you seal it once, you

(31:52):
don't touch it. It's good forthree four hours, then you take it
off and throw it away. Themany you touch it, it's done.
The CDC come out now two yearsago, now maybe your last year going.
Man, they were as effective aswe thought and still still yesterday morning,
I'm seeing a news report on fuckingChannel four and they're in a hospital

(32:14):
and everybody's wearing a fucking mask,Like, didn't you just tell us these
things didn't fucking work? Every day, dude, I see it every day
people are still wearing like cloth masks. Like we're like, we're I don't.
I don't know if like the lastthree months, maybe even six months.

(32:35):
I feel like, like, Iknow, we've known about it the
whole and then we've talked about forlast ten year, but I feel like
it's just being thrown in our face. Like the underlying current from the media
is, oh, we think you'refucking stupid. I feel it's just being
just thrown in our faces, likelike even more recent, just being flaunted,

(32:55):
like, oh yeah, we thinkyou're dumb, we think you a
special if you live in a flyoverstate, like I think people on the
coast just think we are fucking mouthbreathing retards. Yeah I said it.
He gives a fuck. I swearto god. I am fucking sitting in
a seven to eleven waiting in lineabout a week ago, maybe like maybe

(33:21):
like a week and a half ago, and I can see the dude behind
the counter, and there's like abunch of people in line and like wandering
around the store and shit. AsI get closer, I'm like, Okay,
he's wearing a mask, and I'mlike, is he wearing gloves?
Not only was he wearing latex glovesa mask, but I couldn't see it
at first. He had the faceshield. What, yes, the one

(33:45):
on the corner here, dude?No no, no, no, no?
Uh? Fifteen in Garfield? Isthere one at fifteen in Garfield?
If you're heading south over on theright, yeah, that one, older
guy, gray hair. If youever stopping there and you see it,
dude decked out in Ppe, tellthem jen exhausted sense you but no,
And I'm just like, really,dude, yeah you check a calendar.

(34:08):
Yeah you know that when we hitmidnight, it didn't go back to twenty
twenty. Like COVID is not thething where they're playing, like they're talking
about in the news while they wereplaying, don't fear the Reaper underneath it
anymore? Okay, Like that's nota thing anymore. Death counter is long
gone. But that's how I'm tellingyou, dude, Fear is dude,

(34:30):
fear? What is it? Whatis it? Uh? What is the
quotes better to be feared than loved? Oh? I mean there's a whole
talked about before the show, soreligion based on it. It's called Catholicism.
What is that? But it is? That's how deep the hook gets
set in these people. And Imean, like, here's the deal.
It's to the point where if you'redoing this four years out, at this

(34:50):
point, you don't give a fuckwhat enough people think. This isn't something
that you're going to get better about. And I hate to be the bearer
of bad news, but you're mentallyill if you think that this is Like
if you are taking the precautions likehomeboy that I described. You are doing
nothing. You are wasting your timeand money doing and if you if you're
soap and let me guess, letme just let me ask you to We

(35:13):
want to take a guess. Howhe probably voted he's a mega ye hey,
by the way, and this isjust it's just safety. Did he
change his gloves every time he starteda new transaction and opened the drawer?
Probably not? Oh, of coursenot. Yeah, exactly what you do?
So what are you doing? Ijust get yelled at for doing that?
And I'm like, Okay, that'sa habit because I work in food

(35:36):
and I just handled money. Yes, that is not a habit because of
COVID, so fuck off. Thatmeans all nasty fucks would handle fucking money.
It's been in stripper's ass, cracks, up people's nose, down people's
fucking pants, in their socks andthere in their ball sack. Yeah now,
and then you make food. Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah. But exactly if he wasn'tchanging his gloves between every transaction,

(36:00):
We've touching that drawer, what areyou doing? It's a fucking show.
This is performance, aren't I'm gonnaplay the odds. I'm gonna play the
odds, and I'm gonna say,even though I just talked about people making
assumptions about political fucking things, I'mgonna go ahead and say he's probably more
on the liberal scales. He's probablymore worried about the environment, which all
that shit that you're using just fucksup the environment and doesn't help you whatsoever.

(36:22):
So strictly from a fucking pragmatic rationalpoint of view, you're doing way
more damage than any safety precautions thatmight accidentally happen because of what you're doing.
Yeah, a good point. Wherewere all the fucking environmentalists when there

(36:43):
were fucking plastic gloves and parking lotseverywhere they tried to say something, everybody
shouted him down because they were like, hey, man, shut the fuck
up, because we got to carryaround this shit and blah blah blah blah
blah. And it's basically like thewhole world went back to smoking again and
everybody just had to suck it upabout cigarette butts being dumped on the road.
But on the ground, that's whatit was like. What I'm old
enough to remember when people would justpull up at a gas station and just

(37:05):
open the door and dump a fuckingashtray out in the ground. Oh yeah,
like that happened all the time.You and I are old enough to
have owned cars with ash trays andworking cigarette lighters. Okay, I'm not
I'm just gonna say not two cars, because one of those cars is it
was a bridge car, but twolegit cars ago I had all that should

(37:28):
I had a six CD changer.I was bawling, baby, dude.
I had one of my first carswas I had two cigarette lighters, and
I think even one of them hadthere was like one in the back.
Like that's how much people used tosmoke. Everybody, Thank you for visiting
Christopher media dot in that, thankyou for visiting Christopher media dot and that.

(37:59):
But now that I'm actually like stoppingto think about this, dude,
and all this ppe, this iswhat I was talking about when I was
like, I've been rethinking some fuckingjust like base ideas I have about shit
and and stuff like that, andpower being one of them, because I've
said for fucking years on this showand the old show, anyone who seeks
power for the sake of having poweris a piece of shit. And it's

(38:22):
like Okay, I still feel thatway, But I feel like we need
to define power here because there's ifeverything's on a spectrum these days, then
power has got to be on aspectrum. Right. If you want power
over people, you're most likely apiece of shit. But if you want
the power to overcome the obstacles inyour own life within yourself, that's a
righteous search for power. That's thepower that people need to look for.

(38:45):
Stop trying to use power to controlother people, and control yourself with the
power that you would have wasted tryingto control other people. Because I'm gonna
tell you what, fear is onlygonna get you so far. Eventually,
there's we have a million fucking clichessayings. I'm gonna go with this one
while the mouses or the cats away, the mice will play. I think

(39:06):
the story. But I think whatyou're delving into here is like kind of
like a deep psychological thing with humans, you know, I don't. I
think there are some people definitely likethey seek power, like I think,
to be the leader, like thepresident, like that kind of shit of
any like a company, uh uh, a country like that takes like a

(39:30):
special kind of narcissist right, ButI think, you know, when you
get into things like I don't know, I think I'm about to shoot on
my own point. Just it's becauseyeah, if you talk about relationships and
anything that if someone who craves tobe in charge, like that's a red
flag. Like there's a difference betweenwanting to be in and now I think

(39:53):
we're now we're delving into like workscenarios. There's a difference between wanting to
be in charge and just wanting tolike further challenge yourself, right, And
then I think that's what you're gettingin too rich about the personal stuff.
Well, the thing is is thatwhy do I what good comes a power

(40:13):
that you just fucking have over otherpeople just to get them and do what
you want? Nothing, you're no, No, that's absolutely wrong. There's
a lot of good that comes excuseme, good what comes from? I
guess I should have left the wordgood out it is it is a successful
means to an end. So withslavery gets shipped done doesn't make it morally
right. Fact, I'd say bothare pretty much morally huglished because how are

(40:34):
you getting people to do what youwant? Because to me, that's where
the rub comes in because there's aright life. That's what I'm saying to
it, Like, we've convinced ourselvesas a species that just because no one's
cracking a whip or sticking a gunor a spear to our throat and tells
us to work, that we're workingof our own free will, and we're
just ignoring the fact that we areliterally born into a system that is designed

(40:57):
and created to manipulate us into beinggood, obedient workers. But we also
we crave structure. I mean,my example, understand that, and right
like, oh hey, it's gonnabe anarchyness. What happened after two weeks
a fucking structure evolved. Well,warlord moved in and started handing out fucking
automatic weapons, and it was like, hey, who's gonna argue with them?
No, no, none of them. What do you can do?

(41:17):
Call the cops, which they tried. Now, I know this is a
dirty word for people younger than us, but look at history, right,
like what just what what happens whenanything's been settled? Right, A bunch
of people collect somewhere, go,hey, this looks like a good spot
to fucking set up shop, andthen eventually a structure it happens in fucking
nature with fucking packs of dogs andshit. But this is this is where,

(41:42):
this is where true free will comesinto this conversation. If you are
running a legit business and you're aboss, first of all, you don't
want power over your employees for thesake of having power over your employees.
You want to as best as possible. This is how the best bosses I've
ever had were. You want toyou want to basically move and integrate seamlessly

(42:06):
and flawlessly with with the rank andfile. And you really don't want to
have to be a boss. Youwant to make sure the power to do
stuff. You want to make sureyou got the right people who understand it.
They're here to do a job andthey're going to do that job now.
You also don't want to work forsomeone who's like, we have a
job doing there'll be no fun whilewe're doing it. You know, I'm
like, no, man, wecan we can crack up and we can

(42:29):
laugh, we can have a goodtime and do our fucking job. But
that's the But once again, theseare if everything is on a spectrum,
well then why can't power be ona spectrum? This is a different type
power. This is a power thatpeople have because they have to move up
a corporate ladder to be able tomake enough money to survive. In other
words, I wouldn't want to tellany of these people what to do if

(42:49):
I didn't need the money this nowthat now you're being coerced and it's taking
power that you really don't want overother people. What's the moral implications of
that. That's a completely different subject. I don't think we need to get
into right now. But do yousee what I'm getting at? Well,
that's I mean, if you wantto get to that, that's nature.
That's I gotta get more nuts forme and my family than the rest of

(43:10):
the squirrels. If you have justlike just like the free marketplace, if
you have a good product at aat a competitive price and at least on
paper, if you're not at thehead of the fucking pack, you should
be running near the head of thepack. If you're a good company and
you treat your employee as well,well, you shouldn't have to fuck it.
You shouldn't have to use manipulative tactics. You shouldn't have to use threatening

(43:31):
tactics. You shouldn't have to useimplications and hints and things left unsaid to
get your point. But we're alsotalking about a perfect world where everybody who
works for you is motivated the sameway. And in this case, I'm
not talking about working for corporation,something about working for smaller businesses. I'm
talking about you meet your boss faceto face. I'm talking about all businesses,

(43:54):
corporate world. Dude, it's justlike the government. Let it die
and then whatever rises to take itsplace. You're going to have to deal
with that because this is not selfsustainable. There is, Dude. It's
just like the politicians, what wasit a one hundred years ago president?
The buck stops here. No oneelse will take the blame. I'm the
president. I will not pass theblame. Now. Our entire system is

(44:20):
built on spread the blame out sothin that you can see through it like
one ply toilet tissue in a fuckingin a in a in a fucking McDonald's
in Utah. Well, now we'retalking about society changing and the leaders a
reflection of and aren't the leader isa reflection of of society? I don't
know. I know that's a theory. I know that's a theory. Popular
they teach you in seminars when areteaching you how to be a manager for

(44:42):
a company. But I don't knowhow how how like actually honest that that
is And because it's sorry, itcomes off as pretty self fucking serving to
me. Leaders like what wasn't that? The rub of the Trump years is
the country couldn't believe because leaders arepresident leadership comes from the attitude from the
top. IVA two comes from thetop. Then the leadership can't be a

(45:02):
reflection of the society. But we'rethe ones for talking about our at least
American political system. We're the oneswho put them in place. Allegedly.
Really, okay, thank you,I was gonna say, really, the
conversations we have, does anyone heby the way, anyone in this podcast
believe that twenty twenty was not?Fuck? Was was? Was? It
was? What is? What is? What is the refrain to keep always

(45:23):
going back to the most legit electionin the history of this country. No,
I think it was engineered. Absolutelyit was. Yes, not to
get myself labeled as an election denieror anything, but here's the thing.
I just I know for a factevery election there's election tampering, there's election
fraud, every election. It's nota matter of if there's any, it's

(45:45):
a matter of how much is thereand how much it affected the outcome.
That's it. Those are the onlyquestions you really need to ask, and
any questions beyond that stem from thosetwo questions. But you can't even have
that conversation with people because they're sodeeply entrendender political tribal bullshit. So fuck
it. This is what I'm saying. That type of power you want to
fuck with, that type of power, you know, the people that you're

(46:07):
putting yourself, You are inserting yourselfinto the shark tank. Don't cry when
you get your ass ripped apart.That's all I'm saying. That type of
power the weak are eating killed thatother types of power I'm talking about.
There's nothing we can do from ourfucking point vantage point besides look up and
go glad it ain't us and toget out with our fucking lives. Now.

(46:29):
We can do something for ourselves,but that's going to require us not
to sit around and play contrarian andtry to think of every fucking, overly
contrived, fucking situation we can todisprove something, and that's not how we're
built because deep down we're all assholesand you cannot beat the evolutionary fucking not
desire need to win, because that'swhy we're sitting here. Because our ancestors

(46:52):
were bad motherfuckers, back to backWorld War champs. I'm just talking people
and survived one hundred years ago.One unheard of her family to have ten
kids and five of them not makeit. Oh. Absolutely, how many
brothers and sisters you've got. Youwant to fucking if you want to roll,
you want to you want to goback one hundred years and roll the
fucking dods and roll the dice onthe odds that you'll be the one that

(47:13):
makes it. Oh my own parents, Uh, my dad is uh six
of seven. I only had fiveaunts and uncles. My mom, I
believe, is the first of three. I only have one other uncle.
Oh yeah, I got aunts anduncles I never even knew because they lived
for days or that's not Yeah,you're right, that's not that far off

(47:36):
there. Yeah, those those peoplewere yeh, that's like one hundred years
ago. There's so much that wefucking take for granted on a day to
day basis in this fucking culture insociety that we just go, oh,
it's always just the way it is. Why just ask that simple question and
you're either going to see how intellectuallylazy most people are, but because and
that's it, that's all they wantto talk about. So sure, okay,

(47:59):
I'll talk about the Real Housewives awareof the fuck I guess because that's
about more on your speed. Andthere's people who just was just the way
it's always been. Okay, wellthat's just a lot like case in point
two of the three people on thispodcast are musicians. Both of us are
in our forties one hundred and fiftyyears ago. Outside of but fuck it,
one hundred years ago, maybe onehundred fifty years ago, but somewhere

(48:22):
between one hundred and hundred fifty yearsago, we would just be considered getting
to our prime as musicians. Youdidn't become a master of your instrument of
you. That's what prodigies were.That's why the word prodigy was invented,
because it was someone who wasn't five' ten who was doing incredible things.
Even though it could be it wasmore likely people who were in their late

(48:43):
teens early twenties, whereas most composersand master musicians were farther along in life.
It's only been in the last hundredyears in our society that because we
fetishized youth, and we fetishize everythingthat comes from youth as being so pure
and so honest, when we knowit's anything but but whatever. That's just
how our society does things right thatpeople just go soay, it's always been.

(49:07):
It's not always been that way,and it's not even it's not even
been that way most of recorded history. This is a new thing, and
I'm sorry, look at the artwe're getting. It ain't a good thing.
It used to be shut up,adults are talking, or my favorite
metaphor, adults were management, childrenwere labor. Is that what That's how

(49:27):
it was. It's not that longago, kids, That's how it was
when Rich and I were kids.And I think somewhere, probably the nineties,
is where that that dynamic switched.It must have been well after I
left home in my family, that'sall I know I look at. But
then again, I'm the middle childand I wasn't raised with my older sibling
or my younger sibling for the mostpart, and I look at how they

(49:50):
get away with talking to people onboth sides of their family, including all
of us having the same father,And I'm just like, how did you
get to your age without having yourteeth knocked out? So that was just
me who the special loving treatment fromdad. Great, wonderful, right,
y'all fucking idiots were allowed to saywhatever the fuck you wanted to. I
had to get my ass beat becausemy mother said something that offended his ass
twenty years ago. Gotcha. Imean, I'm just I'm forty gonna be

(50:14):
forty five here in a couple ofmonths. I still apologize when I use
the word fuck in front of mymom. So just to give you a
little insight, that's not no.My family was a bunch of liars and
hypocrites. My family acted like theynever fucking cussed in a day in their
life until they well, I'm sorryto wonder if my family has a history
of fucking black and out when theywere great enraged. But yeah, until

(50:37):
they got fucking until they got enragedand not hear all this shit, and
then when they calmed down, I'dhere like they didn't say my dad's famous
line, you know who says theF word? Scumbags and pieces of shit?
That's doing people to say the Fword first time on the road with
them, motherfucking cock sucking piece ofshit, fucking brober, fuck, fuck,
fucking he fucking fuck. And I'mjust like, right right now,

(51:00):
so where's your seat at the pieceof ship meeting dad? Right? Shut
the fuck up? There we go. That. To be fair, my
mother is the son of an earthson, the daughter of a sailor.
So it's not like she was aIt's not like she never said a swear
if you once in a while.But yeah, like that, like,
yeah, the effort was just notthrown around in my house. And holy

(51:22):
shit, if I told I don'tthink I've ever said fuck you to either
of my parents ever, likeause inmy house that at least my parents.
That's the even to carry some weight. There's there's quite a few people in
my family who left a lot tobe desired. As far as like,
you don't disrespect me like that,Why, I'm okay. First of all,

(51:43):
I can't disrespect you because I neverrespected you. That's what you're failing
to understand here. So I don'tcare if you take offense to that word.
But we're family. That doesn't meananything to me. Now going into
detail, where were you when allthe ship I was going through was happening
nowhere, don't give a fuck whatyou got to say about ship now,
motherfuckers, I didn't give a fuck, don't care. But I understand my

(52:06):
family is not your fan. Istill hear about you guys's family, and
I'm like, wow, that soundslike now I know what it feels like
to be an immigrant and come here. And like when I'm twenty and hear
about like all these Americans talk aboutgrowing up in America, I'd be like,
what the fuck you guys like,because I literally you guys ate every
day like it wasn't like certain timesof the year you knew that there was

(52:28):
a very strong possibility you get up, turned on the light switch and nothing
would happen. That wasn't a reality. Okay, so you had a good
long way away of saying congratulations youhad a good family. No, every
once in a while, would youcuss your family out? No, every
once in a while. The lastfew years, I actually say thank you
to my mom, like, hey, thank you for making sure me and

(52:52):
my sister grew up normal. Youknow what, fuck it, I'll make
it official. I'm with you,dude in a different way. Recent events
have made me fucking get on thephone and be very very apologetic to my
extual wife and I'm like, wow, if this is what it was like
dealing with me, I am sosorry. And she's just like it's okay,
and I'm like, no, itreally isn't. I am so sorry.

(53:14):
She end up there there with abroom. Oh man, Hey,
that's that's growth though, right,yes, understanding, Hey, wow,
I was a piece of ship going, hey, ilse fucked up? Sorry
about that. Yeah, that's that'scalled I think my definition that's growth.

(53:37):
See now now like okay, becausehere's here's the type of ship that like,
this is why I don't take fuckingstatements like that's growth, that's progress.
I just let I think they're fuckinggay, and I laugh them off
and I think they're stupid, andI secretly fucking horribly judge anyone who uses
that ship on ironically. That's justthe way I am. And the reason
is because there was never any therewas never anything given for like like I

(54:00):
couldn't say something was It was neverany acknowledgment of growth or progress with me
growing up, And it's not justwith me with like this is a family
wide situation. I get it becauseyou had it with family. I had
it with friends. The attitude tryingto make yourself a better person, Get

(54:21):
the fuck out of here, fagit. No trust I I got it
from friends. It sounds like yougot it from family, And it wasn't
like that. It was more like, if you're not constantly singing praises and
worshiping somebody in the family, like, oh, then you're you hate the
family. You know, you're notone of us. You're what's wrong with
you? Who put these ideas inyour head? And it's like, what

(54:44):
the fuck are you talking about?I just you know, saying like you
just you It's hard to explain.I don't know. No trust me I
got there's a little bit of frictionwith me and my folks. Uh,
going from a teenager to do youyoung adult? Because I adopted the mindset
of like, yeah, just becauseit related to some of these people.

(55:05):
Some of these people are fucked.Some of these people fucking suck. Like
cool, like we shared some relatives, but yeah, some of these people.
I would not talk to them ifwe didn't have to get together every
year in a park and eat somepotato salad. Well, let's put this
way. It was more of acertain segment of the family at a certain
point in time, decided to getup on all all decided at the same

(55:28):
time to get up on the highestfucking place they could find and start screaming
from that particular perch as loud asthey could for anyone who would listen about
how horrible their childhood was and howhorrible a parent of theirs were. It's
not a lie. Okay, no, it's hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, I'mnot done. It ain't a lie.
They weren't making this ship up.And everybody, ah ah, that's well,

(55:52):
you know, that's horrible, Andnow we understand why you guys have
these complicated or a strange relations shipswith this person and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. Andthen that the children of these people stand
up and do the same thing,and they are fucking ostracized. They are
We would never do that. Howcould you betray the family like that?

(56:13):
That's type of shef like you can'teven be honest, good old denial.
Well, that's religion's involved, right, Sometimes religion, honestly I think religion
is used as an excuse by mostpeople that I'm talking about, and the
shit I'm referring to, which extendsto both sides of my family, my
mom and my dad's side, regardlessof denomination. I'll stop picking on Catholics

(56:34):
for this one. Religion is greatat teaching people represhing and denial like the
thing that comes to mind, likeis all right and it's no secret to
you. Listen to this podcast.I did not have a great mother or
or great relationship with my mother,and my mother actively sought to fuck with
me at certain points in my childhoodand was very successful at it. Now,
my dad married my step mom afterhim and my dad's him, my

(56:59):
dad, him my mom split up, and my sister went to my older
sister who's my half sister went togo live with them, and she was
a rowdy ass fucking rumble tumble teenagerdid rowdy ass rumble tumble teenager shit left
the bad taste in my stepmother's mouth. Long story short, She moved back
to go live with her mom.My dad my stepmother were living by themselves
and then boom here, I cometo go live with my step mom wanted

(57:22):
nothing to do with me because ofwhat she had gone through with my sister.
She was very hands off. Shewas not neglectful, she was not
abusive. She just was very muchlike in almost indifferent. And I said
years later, when we were talkingabout my mother, I was like,
you know, they were talking abouthow horrible my mother was, and I

(57:43):
was agreeed with, yeah, mymother was real piece of shit when it
came to being a mother. Absolutely, and I'm like, just by I'm
like, and I looked at mystepmother and I said, just by virtue
of you leaving me alone, youwin the motherhood sweep steaks with me.
You were a mother to me thanmy mother. She got offended. This
was a thing for two years inour family. I was trying to give

(58:05):
her a compliment. Now if Igave the compliment poorly, which I admit
I do that quite often. Wait, what can you wait? What are
you trying to say? Be like, look, you're a better mother than
my mother was. Then say thatokay, But I was giving you the
reason why it's me. I overexplained the nice to not have somebody working
actively against me exactly, and likeand I even I even stated that that

(58:28):
changed as I got older, becausethen she could relate to me on a
level besides I'm her husband's son.Then I started, and I understand this
because I'm the same way with kids. I get a lot of my personality
for my stepmother. Surprise, surprise, she had a whole lot to fucking
to do with building the shitty beastyou listened to once a week. But
I lost. What's the goddamn it? It doesn't. The point is is

(58:52):
that, yeah, like I wastrying to give her a compliment I obviously,
and she just took it as oh, well, oh so I ignored
you, And I'm like, ohyou she didn't. Like How do I
put it? It's like living withsomebody who you don't know, but they
do everything they're supposed to do,so there's no reason to talk to them.
Does that make sense? Yes,Okay, yeah, all right.
I feel like I'm like, hereyou go. I'm right back in the

(59:12):
argument. In my mind, I'mlike, god damn it, shower argument
but not a podcast. Well,I mean, but the thing was is,
like I said it, I sawthe look on her face and I
realized, oh wow, she tookthat really not how I meant it.
And I did my best and whatI thought was damage control, and I
did what I thought was a goodjob with it. He was like four
or five months later, I'm talkingto my brother and he's like, yeah,

(59:35):
Mom still got her nose bent outof shape about what you said.
I'm like what. And it didn'tget dead and buried for almost another year
and a half after that. So, like I said, this was a
two year thing. Yeah, Igot I got issues about it, cause
it's like, this is what pissesme. When I insult somebody, I
want you to know I meant toinsult you. So if you are ever
going was Rich trying to insult me? No, there'll be no question.

(59:59):
No, you will know when Igo to insult you will know my name
is the Lord exactly. Ezekiel twentyfive, seven or thirteen. Yeah,
No, I absolutely absolutely you willknow I'm fucking with you. If I
like I'm insulting you, you won'thave to wonder. Sorry, I don't

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know what that tangent was about,but felt right at the time. I
still I still maintain that, Likegetting back to what we were talking about,
as far as the power thing,I still maintain people, unless you
are lucky enough and okay, fuckit, I'll use to use to use
the parlance and the parlace of ourtimes. If you are privileged enough to

(01:00:42):
be born into a position where maybeyou as an individual, because of your
last name or your family's bank accountor whatever the fuck, can make a
difference. First of all, hey, you know you can donate, right,
just say it, Christopher Button,just saying. Second of all,

(01:01:02):
I guess, go do something.But for the most of us, no,
man, And this is exactly howit was planned out to where we
when the end comes, there's nothingwe can do. I'm telling you it
sucks to say this. The bestyou can do is be very grateful you
were born now and not twenty yearsfrom now. That's about it. And
it all goes back to just likeI said, it doesn't all. I

(01:01:24):
mean, it's not to be thatreductive about it. But when you go
back to how this country was founded, the ideas, the experiment that is
America, it was set up tokeep the government from becoming an all powerful
entity like it happens like it has. Yeah, you could argue the president
is now the kings and just becausewe get to pick him, it's different.

(01:01:46):
Allegedly, I defer back to GeorgeCarlin. I refuse to believe that
I live in a world where foralmost twenty years, you know, almost
thirty I think he said thirty years. Yeah, yeah, because he died
in two thousand and eight. Hewas like, we could actually have a

(01:02:07):
president or vice president named Bush orClinton for thirty years. How is that
different than the monarchy? It's thesame two machines, right, and then
now this is an extension of theThis is the Obama machine pretty much.
It's kind of like coaching trees inthe NFL. As long as there's success,
they'll keep running that coaching tree out. So nobody like Trump, right,
He's not from a coaching tree exactly. He's he is the analyst who

(01:02:30):
walked in and fucking he's the JohnMadden, except for I don't think he's
gonna be beloved almost universally like Maddenwas when he dies. But you get
my point. Yeah, Madden wasnot like, as far as I understand,
Madden was not a football insider.He didn't. He didn't come up,
especially back in the day how you'resupposed to come up. That's why
he ended up with the Raiders.But yeah, he's in that category of

(01:02:52):
this, he's still no, he'sdead now he died, Yeah, yeah,
because they won Madden the year hedied. They just put him on
the cover. They didn't put anyballplayers, but Matt so RP. It's
like he's been off the air forfifteen years man or whatever it is something
like that. Oh well, yeahhe died in twenty twenty one. Well
shit, but yeah, I meanthink about but if you look at going

(01:03:13):
with the coaching tree analogy, youlook at it like, Okay, they
got Reagan in office, which wasvice president. Reagan got two terms,
Bush got a turn right, Bushlost to Clinton. Okay, blah blah
blah blah blah. The Republicans now, we're still going to run with Bush.
So they're still running off the Reagantree. They're just running off the
next generation of Bushes. They thoughtit would be Jebb's that it was George.
So far nobody's come from the fuckingthe Reagan political tree after fucking George

(01:03:37):
Bush that's had any fucking juice politically, or the Clinton traditionally, like they
reseid it with the Obama tree.But the Democrats, at least there's a
way for like you look at Reagan. Reagan was an actor, then he
became a politician. Okay, butlike Clinton Obama, those are true outsiders

(01:03:58):
to that Democratic Party. They arenot legacy. They are not like They're
not like Kennedy's you know what I'msaying. They're not legacy fucking politicians.
Their politicians just stepped in. Thatused to be something that just didn't happen
between both parties, but then itstarted happening more amongst the Democratic Party.
Now I think it's pretty much likeI think both parties are open game for
it because both of them are sodesperate for a win. Anyone who comes

(01:04:21):
in as willing to put their fuckingletter by their name and can win,
they'll run with Because I don't givea fuck what no one says. If
Trump is the most likely to beatwhoever the Democrats run, the Republicans will
run Trump. Not to sidetrack theconversation, but this question was raised today
on podcast I listened to. II don't feel it's been raised in the

(01:04:43):
last couple of weeks. Biden isnot fit to stay in trial for the
document thing, right, because yeah, I brought this up last week,
But he's fit enough to be thepresident. No, the legal standard I
believe is the same, probably higherfor the president. Oh yeah, Like
we're just gonna gloss over this.This isn't Yeah, but I mean,

(01:05:05):
but the scary part is this isn'tlike temporary insanity due to drug use,
psychotic break, and those won't getyou off in court. You can just
you can try to use it asa defense. A judge will allow you
too. So I mean, like, this isn't even that. This is
like those things. You have apsychotic break, you take drugs, you

(01:05:29):
go crazy, you come back toreality. Oh shit, my bad,
dementia, there's no coming back toreality, My bad. The day he
was interviewed is probably one of hislast good days. Most of his days
after that are going to only beworse. Like all the things we heard
for four years about it's trump mentallyfit and this and that and he's unhinged

(01:05:50):
and blah blah blah. Here wehave a dude who is literally like,
we have it on record that hedoesn't have all of his faculties, and
we're like, yeah, we're cool. Well, my theory is that because
so much of the left is dominatedby the soft sciences, that's where a

(01:06:10):
lot of their intellectuals come from thatshit. I lost it, forget it,
whatever, God damn it. We'reI mean, we're we're straying into
that, Richard, know you definitelysaid this last week. We're straying into
like, well, apparently this positiondoesn't fucking matter if somebody who's clearly losing
this fucking mind and that's not hyperbolecan still do the job allegedly. What

(01:06:35):
I was gonna say is a lotof a lot of the left seems to
be driven by, like I said, the softer sciences, psychology being one
of them. One of the bigfucking things, especially in pop psychology right
now, is projection. So ifsomeone's doing something you don't like, or
if someone is accusing you of doingsomething and you don't like that, instead
of even acknowledging what they're saying,you just go stop project This has now

(01:06:57):
become a political tactic as well.Literally, what you were seeing was the
the Democrats telling on themselves by goingafter Trump's saying he's not mentally fit.
We're still running Biden, right,Yeah, he's Trump's not mentally fit.
What else is it, dude?You tell me? By their very definition,
the words that that they approve inthe books that they fucking allowed to
be printed and and and taught incollege and schools. They're projected. What

(01:07:21):
else would you call it? Lyingyour head in, saying being just saying,
But no, I agree, butI feel a lot a lot of
psychology, uh gives fancy names toshitty behavior and thus excuses it. Well,
my further point than that is,it's just like, no one's more

(01:07:43):
afraid of being robbed than a thief. Like and here, if you're,
if you are, if you areentrenched in the in the progressive left,
you'll love this fucking analogy. It'slike the really anti gay pastor who gets
caught smoking meth and taking dicks uphis ass and down his throat. Okay,
that's exactly what it's like. That'syou, guys. Everything that you're

(01:08:05):
accused of, valid or not,is projection. And I'm telling you this
is why politics all this is fuckingthis is the bread and circuses of the
twenty first century, the political dogand pony show. If any of this
mattered, we would not know whatwas going on. If you doubt the
validity of my statement, you're stupid. I'm sorry, I can't I can't.

(01:08:27):
I can't sugarcoat it any better foryou. You're just stupid. I'm
sorry, and I've dealt with reallystupid people for too long now I just
can't do it anymore. But they'regonna do what they want to do,
and they've shown us that. I'vekind of got to the point I agree
with the fucking crazy crackers and theguns in the hills. With the guns,
if you can swing it, buyyou land, keep the amenities as

(01:08:49):
far away but as close as youcan stand. To be the fucking to
other people, and take care ofyou and yours. I don't know what
else to tell people. This isn'tgonna get better, guys. This isn't
gonna get better, Okay, thisis It's like death. It's inevitable.
We are not going to be thecountry the empire that breaks the mold.

(01:09:11):
It's not gonna happen, not theway we're going. Oh we might be
able to pump the brakes while we'reheading full speed at a fucking brick wall,
but it's still just delaying the inevitable. Man. And I mean,
like, I'm gonna be honest withyou. You know what, you know
what it is like you know whatit is right now. It took me
going through what I just went throughrecently to realize this. You know what
it is living like in America rightnow, being in a relationship and realizing

(01:09:34):
this just isn't gonna work and justaccepting that and doing what you gotta do
to get through it. I justfeel that's life personally. Like you have
an idea it's gonna go now,because you have an idea it's gonna go
one way, and then it startsgoing and you're like, well, this
isn't what I expected. You're lookingonce again, and I'm as guilty as

(01:09:55):
you are of this at times,but you're looking at it assuming that everyone's
looking at the world. You lookat the world. That's the first fatal
mistake you're making here. Okay,you don't give a fuck about the government,
so you don't care that the government'sfucking up everything, because why you
don't give a fuck because you don'ttrust the government, So of course the
government's fucking up. Thank you fordoing what I knew you were going to
do. I like being right.That's it, That's all that matters to

(01:10:16):
you. There are people who lookat the government and that is the same
to them as that fucking crucifix isto your mother. And they're terrified.
And what do people do when youwhen you terrify them to their very core
about their fucking core values and beliefs. They panic. So keep saying there
ain't nothing, no, I ain'tno big that's just life. It's not
dude, it's not okay, it'slife for everybody who's not living in America

(01:10:39):
right now. For right now,we're at the beginning of the end.
And this isn't just this isn't somethingthat happens to every country who's ever been
in existence. This is what happensto empires. So I mean, like,
yeah, I'm sorry, this isn'tjust everyday bullshit. And if you
if you doubt once again the validityof my statement, Look how people lose

(01:11:00):
their minds in day to day lifetoday. Look how scared of everything everybody
is when statistically we live in thesafest time to ever live on the planet.
That your kid can't go play nextdoor because well, I don't know,
my ring bell doesn't be doesn't havea camera that can see that far
down. That's a them thing.And we're back to what you said,
earlier. I'm worrying about me andmine. If you're worrying about you and

(01:11:21):
yours, truly worrying about you andyours isn't sitting around bitching about everybody else
who's not you and yours. Hardtruths cut both ways. That's why I
just do what I do in myday to day. Like all the government's
done for me is take Why amI going to worry about that they're gonna
If I'm gonna be on record inthe United States, that's that to me,
that's price of admission. They've givenme roads that can kind of be
driven on for that's it's the priceof admission if you're gonna be on record

(01:11:45):
in America. That's the price that'skind of made sure the infrastructure in most
places I live doesn't go down atthe drop of the hat. West side
of Metro Detroit, you got alot of work to do compared to the
East side. I'm just saying they'reon point about their shit out here compared
to you fuckers. No, dude, I get it. I get it.
And when I've needed them, I'vebeen told sorry about your luck.
And I mean I feel that wayabout the government. I feel that way

(01:12:09):
about organized religion. I feel thatway about most of my family. I
feel that way about corporations. Ifeel that way about most people I've considered
friends in my life. Hmm,maybe I need to fucking stop surrounding myself
with people like that. That's whatI'm getting that. And by the way,
you can extrapolate out from me toyou the listener, Well, yeah,
that's you are who you put yourselfaround, Like I think I think

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we're like. I think we've prettymuch proven like nurture wins. I think
there's many more examples of nurture winningversus nature. I would argue to look
at the like, I don't thinkeverybody that's in prison was born that way.
You're a product of your environment.Part of your environment is the people
you put around or you are forcedto be around. Well. See,

(01:12:51):
that was a conversation that we usedto be able to have because we could
go, Okay, well what aboutthese people who have propos excuse me,
who present with a cluster B personalitydisorder? Well, now you have Psychiatrists
don't even want to fucking diagnose peoplelike that. We don't call social paths
or psychopaths anymore. Oh, whatanti social personality disorder? Okay, all
right, is it the same thing? Well, it's a little bit different.

(01:13:16):
Okay, So you see what I'msaying, Like, we can't even
we can't even have you can't evenhave a discussion in the fucking classrooms of
the ship where this stuff is gettingdecided about the validity of nature versus nurture.
And if denial again, if nurtureis winning by how much? Because
I will not accept until I seeempirical evidence that it is one hundred percent

(01:13:42):
nurture and nature plays zero percent rolein how you end up as a human
being. I just don't buy that, which goes back to are some people
are born wired wrong? For lackof a better way to put it,
they're born wired wrong? Or wellthat's why I set up in nature.
Well that's why I said. Noteverybody in prison is born that way.
But well, I but do youunderstand it? Like once again, like

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just by the very nature of yousaying I think it's nurtured wins and not
quantify qualifying it with anything after it. If I look look at the single
dads, to look at the thenumber of people in prison, Look how
many of them come from a homeabout a father. It's fucking crazy high.
I don't know it offhand, butI know it is ridiculously high.
Well, it's not just father oreven if you're raised by a single father,

(01:14:27):
not raised by a single mother onethat's the exact thing, dude.
And you know, Okay, whyis that that you're not allowed to talk
about that? But why if it'sif it's not necessarily male or female,
doesn't matter if it's dad or mom. It's just a single parent home,
You're more likely to end up inprison coming from one than two parent home,

(01:14:48):
which I believe is the language usedin the study that I keep referring
to. Now, because in nature, one parent teaches you one thing and
another parent teaches you another thing.You have to watch the fucking Nature channel,
folks. One of the animals isgonna teach the fucking cub how to
fucking go hunting ship and the otherone is gonna teach it how to fucking

(01:15:09):
uh develop emotionally. Okay, I'msure that plays a factor. And I
think another factor is definitely when youhave two parents, it's a lot harder
to manipulate your way and manipulate youryour parent into getting your way. Oh
yeah, because it's a check.It's a natural checks and balanced situation.
Unless your parents just coexist in thesame house and just grunt when they pass

(01:15:31):
each other and never communicate, it'spretty hard to fucking convince one parent that
the other parents said you could dosomething that the one parent's like, huh
No, I don't think definitely.It was me and my sister. It
was always what did your mom orit was what did the other one say?
Did you ask the other one?Yeah, what did they say?
Yeah? There was no getting anythingby either one of them. What If

(01:15:53):
you are a child of a singleparent, you quickly not only learn to
read your parents' emotions, because ifyou grew up like I did, your
entire fucking well being depended on whatmood mom was in that day. You
also learned to realize when she's goingto be more open and vulnerable to questions
and pestering for you to get yourway. And the same thing went for

(01:16:15):
my dad. No one taught mehow to do that. I didn't know
what that was called. There wasno internet. No one sat me down
and showed me a fucking job,aid like, I'm working for fucking pizza
hunt or some shit on step bystep how to do this. This is
what I intuited out and sussed outjust through fucking day to day life and
day to day experience. You don'tthink I'm I. You don't think that.

(01:16:39):
Now. Imagine I'm not self awareenough to realize that I picked this
up as a kid. You don'tthink that it's gonna affect even though I
am self aware enough. Nough,I picked up his kid. You don't
think it has affected me and it'sgoing to affect me. No, absolutely.
I mean your brain when you're young. I mean children are called impressionable
for a reason, like that,shit forms and the shit that happens,

(01:17:00):
like the first two decades of yourlife forms an impression and forms who you
are as a person. And thisis this is what I'm getting at.
Like this, this is when we'refucked. The only thing we can do
is make ourselves comfortable and enjoy theshow. Chris, Yeah, Jess,
Jess actually might have something that shecould do. Mother Nature is a bitch,
because there's here's here's the reality ofmother nature. And she's just as

(01:17:23):
much of a cunt as God is. Okay, you only have one fucking
job, pro create, and afterthat, mother nature don't give a fuck.
You will live or die. Yeah, it does not matter. You've
done your job. That's the ladies. You get shut down. Mother nature
goes this is it's over. That'sjust all there is to it. From
an evolutionary standpoint. Every person needsto properly. Every person needs to be

(01:17:47):
a a parent to what two children, that's replacement rate, one for yourself
and then one to grow the population. Yes, so there you go.
Why I don't want to leave anyonein this mess. So I don't leave
anyone around to deal with this shit. I mean, that's the drive to
do different, to do bad.I think that's what made me so mad

(01:18:09):
for so long. You know,like once I realized, once I was,
once I saw my voice makes nodifference what I believe. I can
scream it from the rooftops, Ican vote, I can find like minded
people, I can do anything andeverything. It makes no difference. And
it was it was terrible feeling lookingat my kids and being like, well,

(01:18:30):
crap, sorry. I clearly remembermy prayer. My dad looking at
me one day during dinner. Idon't know I was in middle school.
He's like well, we fucked theworld up. I'm sorry. Oh okay,
cool, have more potatoes? CanI get some green beans? Thanks?

(01:18:53):
Yeah. I feel once a summerI look at my nephew and go,
hey, good luck. I mean, I really do. I feel
like I have been talking. I'vebeen socializing more than I have. I
think in the past year, I'vebeen talking to more people. And I
was talking to someone recently who hasnot been able to purchase a home yet,

(01:19:17):
and they're truly terrified that they're notgoing to be able to ever get
one. Yeah if they read thenews, of course, and they're like,
you know, they said that tome, and they're like, yeah,
like I really, I really hope, like you know, I'm able
to find something. And I meanI didn't even have words of encouragement.
I'm like, I mean, Iwish you the best hopefully too, and

(01:19:41):
they and you know they will.I dude, I chose to move last
year at a terrible time. Ifound something like it's it's it's like I
liken it to like the last tenyears, if I'm a black male under
thirty, I I would be terrifiedto leave the house because that's what the
media has pretty much been telling mefor the last decade, like there's a

(01:20:02):
target on my back. So Iguess what I'm getting at is like if
that's what you constantly see all thetime, of course, because trust me,
I get I see shit like thatall the time in my news feed.
It's like, yes, if youbelieve that, like, oh my
god, it's amazing. We're allnot living in a fucking refrigerator box.
Well no, they were just talkingabout like looking at house prices and looking

(01:20:24):
at interest rates. If you don'thave a house and you don't have equity
in anything that you can sell,I mean trying to save up the sort
of down payment to put a downpayment on your starter home of three hundred
thousand dollars. There's if your firsttime buyer, there's a government program zero
percent down or even three percent down, and now give you something. Do

(01:20:44):
they get I used that, butit was a long time ago and it
was just three percent flat. Itstill exists, they but still three percent
down and it's a pain in theass and you have to look for a
lender that deals with FHA. Wellyeah, well you don't. You don't
move into a home with nothing down. Of course, of course, a

(01:21:06):
deal. When you're talking about renting, motherfucker, you can tell your privilege
to ask ain't renting a while?First, last, and security. That's
three months rent right there. Soyou got, Yeah, you have to
put something down to move the fuckin somewhere. I don't even think the
fucking while. Let you move inwithout putting down for the very first night

(01:21:29):
and two with rent, you don't. I always kissed that money goodbye.
Yeah. You either you either learnto do that or you get really pissed
off every time you move and youjust shave how much ever off your life
getting that pissed off about something thatyou couldn't you can't do anything about.
They're always going to find something.Okay, fine, dude. I had
a solid oak entertainment center that weweighed the fucking cocksucker. It weighed ninety

(01:21:54):
pounds, man, and it wassetting in a very specific spot in this
apartment, and I read it.When I moved out. They tried to
say that my cat had pissed onthe carpet, and I said, oh,
really, show me where they pissedon it, where my cat pissed
on the carpet, And they gaveme a fucking diagram and they circled right
where that fucking entertainment. So Iwas and I said, send me the

(01:22:16):
picture of the piss spot, andthey send me a picture or something.
I'm like, first of all,I couldn't see if there was any piss
there, but you could clearly seethe indent of this ninety pounds solid oak
entertainment center where they're trying to claimshe pissed under No, I've gotten like,
oh, well we had to vacuum, like okay, fucking whatever.
Fuck like, yeah, that wasenough to keep seven hundred and fifty dollars

(01:22:40):
supposedly her her moving a solid oakentertainment center pissing moving it back all before
I came came home. Eight poundSiamese cat without the posable thumbs. You
think that's right? Yeah, youalmost start to understand why people are like,
you know, we can just startby killing landlords. Well, you
know, you know, one moreof a racket, buy something, Jess,
how many stupid fees are you?Like? Really, you're just gonna

(01:23:02):
like you're just tacking that on therebecause you can yes all of them.
Yeah, I'm expecting, Oh,it's the fee fee, it's we have
to charge you a fee for assessingyou. All these fees you can only
pay online. But there's a feefor paying online. Yeah, if you
want to pay online with a creditcard, that's an additional fee. But

(01:23:24):
if you want to pay with abank card, that's also an additional fee.
And if you pay with the digitalcheck in your routing number, you
get a fee for both the accountnumber and the routing number. See this
goes back to what I'm talking about. This is we are lied to as
a society every day and we acceptit. There's nothing we can do about
it. With our generation, Millennialsare fucked pretty much going with Gen Z
being fucked. So you got kidsat Jen Alpha or whatever generation comes at,

(01:23:47):
teach them this shit. But like, teach them what a fee really
is. That's some extraneous bullshit theytacked on at the end so they can
make more profit. There is nopoint to that fee. You need to
understand that when you're coffee up moneyfor that. When you see fee,
think we're tacking this on to makea profit off you. Yeah, more
of a profit than we're making already. By the way, if you really

(01:24:09):
want to be a pedantic gass aboutit, I was always under the impression
banks made money off of interest.But yeah, the last twenty years,
it's just here's a feed, andthis is a fee, and a fee
for this and a fee for that. Jesus Christ, can you talk to
anyone who's in these fucking industries thatare very fee heavy. The whole reason
those fees exist is so they canadvertise one price till you get you through

(01:24:30):
in the door. I just wentthrough this with my brakes. Oh,
we're only going to charge you fortydollars to look at your brakes and see
if you really need a full breakjob. But don't worry. If you
do that, forty dollars will comeoff the price of the break job.
Wait a minute, motherfucker, howmuch it is going to be a break
job? Said? I mean,call it what the fuck it is.

(01:24:51):
It's an excuse to get someone throughthe door and then hit them with that
shit, and they know, ninetimes out of ten people will be like,
man, fuck it, I'm notgoing to another place. Just do
it. I'll pay your fucking fee. I'm the asshole. I'm this much
of a petty cocksucker about shit likethis. I pull up at a gas
pump and their shit, don't havea bag on it, or say that

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it's broke. And I put mycard in, I pull it out and
it says, you know, pump'sbroke. Go inside. I'll go to
another fther fucking gas station. Fuckingsame wife like, yeah, no,
your shit should work, Like I'mnot even I'm not even going fucking like
drive around to another pump and tryit. Fuck it. Because I live
in Metro Detroit. If there's onegas station on one corner, I can

(01:25:34):
jack off and fucking throw semen onanother one across the street. So I'm
going across the fucking street. Freemarket works, that's you. Their shit
works, that's see. Now,that's rich. That's why I like free
That's my favorite part of capitalism isyou have a choice, like, oh
yeah, fuck you, I'm goingover here. That's why I like it.

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Well once again, and here's whereyou you forget your Carling. I
don't know how you were raised Catholicand that shit's beaten into your brain,
but you can't remember, George Carlin, you're giving the illusion a choice.
I figured this out the other day. I'm sitting at a fucking corner and
I'm like, well, that gasstation or this gas station, and then
I'm looking and I'm like, waita minute, those are the exacts.
These are both Exxon pumps with adifferent branded gas station to go inside.

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It's now onto personal accountability. It'son you to educate yourself to know where
you're sending your money. Yeah I'mnot Yeah, I'm not a fucking dummy.
Hey that says Exxon, and thatsays Exxon, or that says Mobile
Exxon. Like yeah, like youonce again the illusion of choice. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying. It'slike if it's it's being intellectually dishonest.

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If I say, you have allthese choices in in pop or as
people not from Michigan, soda orcola. If you call it cola,
you must be old. I'm sorry. Coke if you're in Florida, well,
coke in the South, Oh,it's all it's the it's the South
now. Huh. I thought Ithought in Florida it was just coke,

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but it's now it's throughout the region. Huh. Yeah. But as long
as I I mean, at leastfor twenty nine years. If I say,
if I say, oh, yeah, come in, you have you
know, do you have pepsi products. No, but we have coke,
and we have doctor pepper and wehave sprite. Okay, but those are
all those are all coke products.You have pepsi products. No, we

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have a wide variety and a choice. And it's like, not really,
I'm giving my money to the samefucking people. See, that's not fucking
the free market. That is dominating. That is a monopoly on a fucking
business. And they at least arehonest about it most of the time.
When you when you come in,what do you have? We have pepsi,

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coke products? Oh, okay,I know what I'm dealing with.
And you know why because we wouldlook at them like they're retarded, rightfully,
So if they were like, wehave a wide variety of products,
you have coke products, motherfucker,just say that you ain't got it hard
to do hard sell and ultimately,why are they doing that? Ask yourself,
if you're being deceived in advertising ormarketing or in the sales process,

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why is that? Figure out whyit is. Decide if you can fucking
live with it, make your decisionwhether to go forward with the transaction or
take your business elsewhere. Yeah,but once again, dude, not everyone
fucking knows this, and we're nottalking about the same people from ten years
ago that we were talking about didn'tknow this. There's been a whole new
generation of people who come up whohave parents who don't give a fuck.

(01:28:31):
So welcome to the Mommy and DaddyPodcast. This is how you fucking exercise
your rights in the free market.I know your commy ass parents who take
it up the ass and sip whyand didn't tell you this shit? Is
it very well gen x of meto think, well, fucking nobody told
us. Let them find out ontheir own, just like we all had
to. My God, as muchas I understand that sentiment, you were

(01:28:53):
married, can't hit her, dude, no matter what. You know what
I'm saying, like, you justcan't. You know, It's like she
really really deserves it. Oh,we we know, but I feel like
experience is the best teacher. Like, look, you remember those feelings of
success and failure. Thank you forvisiting Christopher Media dot, INAPT, thank

(01:29:15):
you for visiting Christopher Media dot anda hold on, hold on, hold
on. I am not about tryingto spend my fucking rest of my fucking
limited amount of days on this fuckingrock trying to convince someone who does not

(01:29:35):
want to be convinced and does notsee a problem with what they're doing and
does not want help. I willpass on my fucking wisdom if you don't
listen, you know what, Sometimesthat's what you gotta go through, don't
you. A man learns best whenhe gets burned. Some people gotta learn
the hard way. I know Idid on a lot of things. Oh
yeah, so fucking But a lotof times it was nobody at the beginning

(01:29:58):
of me getting ready to do somethingstupid, going hey, you should probably
shouldn't do that. Why because everybodyhad the same attitude you had. And
I'm just like, if I wasa waste of fucking time and effort,
who is a fucking worth the timeand effort? Like Jesus Christ, how
many people you know Stevie Ray Vaughan. And it's before the internet when everybody
fucking could go here, just watchthis and they'll just show you how to

(01:30:20):
do everything. You couldn't be botheredwith that ship. So if I couldn't
be bothered to be told, hey, don't fuck your life up, who's
worthy of being told not to fucktheir life up? Man? Because my
parents felt the same way you do. So let me live. I can.
Let me fucking let me interrogate themvicariously through you. What would what

(01:30:42):
would I had to do as yourkid to be worth saying something to?
Well, this is a different conversationwhen you're talking about oh ya, what
would have to talk about rand?Who you know? Who I would have
to be worth saying something to.I don't show promise show you're not an
idiot. I mean that's yeah,I'll get you a show. Show probably
here's answer. Show you're going tolisten To's what I tell you? Show

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me. I'm not going to bescreaming into a void. Well, I
mean, there's the people who stareoff in the space the minute you start
talking, and those are just lostcauses. But I also know people who
really got are really really good atconvention you that are listening to what you're
saying. It's just going in oneear and out the other, and it
ain't hitting anything in between. I'mgoing to leave names and relationships off of

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this, but there are two youngmen with I deal with regularly. One
of them is worth telling shit too, and one of them is not worth
telling shit too. I've discerned thisafter a couple of summers with each of
them, and we'll we'll leave itat that. Well, I'm just saying,
I, dude, what do weultimately want? I mean, that's

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as a people. Are we thatpetty to where it's like, Okay,
we had it hard, somebody elseshould have it as hard as us.
Having it hard is not a virtue. Like especially, here's the deal.
It's kind of a tragedy when youdon't have to have it hard. And
we live in a society where,really, honestly, if you're paying attention,
you probably shouldn't really be having kidsthat you can't take care of,

(01:32:09):
because there's lots of ways not tohave those kids, lots of ways not
to end up in situations where well, h dude, the best I could,
which wasn't very good. There,Dolly may thank you. Quote a
good friend of mine to twenty plusyear old quote, it's not that hard
to not get pregnant. Well,I also learned this many years ago.

(01:32:30):
A man gets a woman pregnant,a woman chooses to keep the baby.
The man has no say so,even though it's his fault she's pregnant,
he has no say so and whatshe does with that baby, and the
baby's born, he still has nosay so, but he has to foot
the bill or else he can goto jail. And that's the society we
live in. That's how much importancethey put on fathers. They spend more

(01:32:50):
money to throw single fathers not payingchild support in jail than they do on
any program to keep families together.Which one's more profitable? Which one do
they have an interest in? Whydo they have an interest in doing it?
If this is not the most profitJust ask questions, folks. So
I got to do start asking questions, pointing shit out to people like this

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is. I think we've stumbled intoanother situation where the money is in the
medicine, not the treatment. Andbelieve me, you're going to have what
we have. Every time a fuckingsubject like this comes up, you're going
to have one person who's gonna goboa, wait a minute, what about
And here comes the most bullshit contrivedwouldn't even be a b subplot on Seinfeld
out if somebody's fucking mind. Ijust went through this the other day.

(01:33:35):
A dude on There's a picture floatingaround online of a dude and his wife
in the delivery room. And thisbaby that they have, that baby is
half black and it's daddy is WesleySnipes dark and Homeboy with his wife are
both lily white, I mean realwhite. And of course all these hilarious

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comments start here comes this one asshole. Oh well, it's not always cheating.
In a lot of cases, it'sthe husband's into being cooked and he
has a black friend who he letsfox his wife. Or he's infertile,
and so his friend just offered uphis sperm to help him a couple who

(01:34:20):
he's friends without, blah blah.And I'm just like, okay, okay,
dude, no, no, you'retelling me the odds of it being
any of those completely pulled out ofyour ass so bad. They are covered
in fucking, dripping shit, bullshit, fucking situations over she just cheated.

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Hey, this this is the kindof person. This is the kind of
person that is why money, dude, this is what you do. It's
a contrarian, that's what it is. This is the type of that I'm
just going is this is this theautomatic default setting for people these days?
Like the minu, anyone says anything, someone's gotta go. No, I
prove it wrong. And there's onecase that we found ten billion years ago.

(01:35:04):
Okay, all right, dude,we get it. Not everything's one
hundred percent, but like that,this is just God, I hate that
shit. But aren't those people askingquestions? Do you find it hard to
hide the fact you're gay? There, I asked a question. Now is
that a fucking val Is that aquestion helping or hurting? Turk? Helping
or hurting? Okay, come on, now you know exact. Come on,

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dude, there's differs. Been askinga smart ask question and a question
actually furthers your fucking understanding of thesituation. And we and dude, most
all of my friends are contrarians.That's why it's we're insufferable when you get
us together in a big enough groupbecause all we sound like them fucking muppets.
All they just grunt and do thatshit at each other because all we're
doing is disagreeing the entire time.Well, actually, we are the living

(01:35:48):
embodiment of that meme. Yes,and yes, it's funny, it's good
for a laugh once in a while, but ultimately it's a fucking bullshit habit
that people need to get out ofbecause it gets nothing done and accomplishes not.
But isn't it where constructive dialogue starts, if it starts in a genuine,
righteous place from good faith. Yeah, but did you know as well
as I do, most people arecontrarians for that reason. They're doing it

(01:36:09):
just to do it, And that'sjust like, dude, I'm sorry.
We've learned to suppress other self destructivetendencies, but because this one makes you
snicker every once in a while,we're gonna let it go. You know,
if everyone's going to walk around,and in forty six years of fucking
life on this shithole has taught methis beyond the shadow of a doubt,
if everyone's going to walk around lookingto be offended, I guess I need
to throw my hat in the ringnow. I guess this is an issue

(01:36:30):
that yeah, I don't really haveit really all have a whole lot of
flex on anymore. I kind ofthink it's detrimental to the fucking a lot
of fucking parts about day to daylife, not even and that's on the
macro level, not even on themicro level, on a person a person
level, because it breeds apathy inthis this this battle of who could care
less shit? And I thought wesolved that in the nineties with a Ben
Folds five song. Yeah, ButI think we're getting into something. I

(01:36:54):
think this is something that's like hardwiredinto us. Like I think we're wired
to look for war things. Uh, I don't know what's what's the wording
I'm looking for here? You know, just like we're looking we're always looking
for weaknesses deficiencies, just to makesure like like it's it's rooted in like
the hole it's too good to betrue instinct. Do you know as well

(01:37:15):
as I do that most people thatutilize the tactic we're talking about aren't intelligent
enough to be utilizing it in thatway, in that method. You know
that as well as I do.Well, that's it, And I mean
that is a problem. That's problembecause it's how I'm wired. I'm like,
well, that's that issue, andthey got to figure it out.
And I got you. But everyweek we sit and bitch about how them

(01:37:35):
issues are starting to become us issues. I mean, there's a there's a
there's a point, dude, wherewe're walking I get it. We're all
drunk in the bar and it's adive bar in Detroit, and the bathroom
ate well lit, but I mean, there's this there's a difference between walking
in and trying to hit the toiletand just opening the door of the bathroom
and pissing. And that's what thefuck we've been doing, bro. And
it's just like, I I don'tknow if I'm just starved for authenticity and

(01:37:59):
this reeks of nothing but just fuckingjust faux hipsterism. Man. I just
I don't know any other way toput it. Like, I see this
attitude and everybody just everybody's everybody's socool, they're so unbothered about everything,
and anyone anyone who shows any emotionwhatsoever besides well, no, no,
anybody shows any emotion besides pointing outthat somebody's showing emotion and making a mockery

(01:38:23):
of them so everybody can laugh.You can mockery, that's an emotion.
You can show laughter about people beingmocked. That's an emotion. You can
show. Everything else is you're triggered, You're a snowflake. Ooh you mad?
You big mad? What do wefive? Dude? Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Just like Idon't hang out with crackheads and junkies anymore.
I'm not really down to hang outwith fucking adult five year olds.

(01:38:44):
Man. I mean, if that'swhat people want to fucking be and that's
how they want to do, that'scool. But that's just not where does
that? How is that even fuckingfun once you get past the initial couple
fucking minutes of it, because dude, I mean, most people's fucking bullshit
isn't even They're not even good enoughto come up with anything worth listening to
when they're trying to be contrarians orroast somebody. I mean, it's just

(01:39:04):
like you bring up Jesus to somebodywho doesn't believe in Jesus and who's liberal,
and the first thing they throw outthere is, you know, he
didn't look like a Hell's Angel orEric Clapton from nineteen seventy. Yeah,
we get that, we know that. Do you know that? Like that's
that's that's like, that's above averagefucking contrarian. Dude. Welcome, that's

(01:39:25):
what I'm saying. Welcome to twodecades of internet culture. I think that,
dude, I'm telling you the thesociological long term effects they're gonna find
that the of social media, I'mtelling it's gonna be like in the fucking
eighties and nineties when they finally werelike, whoa cigarettes cause cancer? Holy
shit, Like it's gonna be somethinglike that they're gonna find about. Like
what I think social media has doneto us as a group. I think

(01:39:49):
you're you're I think that's what you'rehitting I think that's kind of what you're
hitting on here, You're rich,is that we've kind of been made that
way. Like, listen, we'relike two decades into social media pretty much,
like that's a generation. That's that'stwo generation ish. Where do you
go for authenticity outside? Okay,because you can't go online. I mean

(01:40:11):
you can find authenticity online, butyou really really got to know where to
look, and you really really reallyhave to look really hard. No,
you have to do like what youused to do. You have to go
out into the world and talk topeople the analog way. Dude, that
is a lost art on a lotof people. Well, and kids are
growing up not doing that now.Yeah, teenagers are growing up and all

(01:40:34):
their friends are online, all literallyall of their friends. Yeah. I
mean, I'm not disagreeing with whatyou're saying. I mean we used to
do I would twitch in real life, like I hated it, and I'd
always bitch about it. But we'dsit at our friend's house and watch somebody
play video games and like talk toeach other while it was going on.
Well, I mean, unless he'splaying a fucking like really involved one player

(01:40:56):
game, that shit was getting handedoff more than a fucking party joint.
Usually my crew, So uh,some of my crew might it might have
been like watching some dude play likeDiablo or Final Fantasy for fucking two hours.
Trust me. I was always gonnaOkay, guys, you know there's
like women out there right Hey,we're nineteen, We're only nineteen once.

(01:41:17):
What are we doing here anyway?Sorry? Oait, I'm sorry. It's
just too juicy of a worm youleft on the hook. Dude, What
the fuck good woman you were gonnafind at nineteen? It was you know,
it was no, it was thefact that you were so busy worried
about what you were missing out atnineteen, which was nothing, by the
way, but as a fact,we were nineteen years old. Canada's right

(01:41:41):
fucking there, and we're sitting herefucking watching you play fucking Final Fantasy for
two hours. What are we fuckingdoing? Like fonding having conversations that are
more intelligent than any conversation you're gonnahave with some fucking life is not a
spectator Pepper's and fucking windsor Okay,life is hasty. I've been there,
dude. I'm just saying I don'tunderstand. I said, it's why I

(01:42:03):
don't have a Twitch account. Now. I didn't understand it fucking thirty years
ago. I don't understand it.Now. You're just gonna watch somebody play
video games. Hey, you knowit has multiple ports. There's games we
could play together, espec. Soif you're playing the Oblo of any sort,
yeah, that's a four player gameif I'm correct, right, No,
man, I yeah, yeah,you can go out and try to

(01:42:23):
talk to people. But just likeJess said, and I mean like it's
anecdotal experience, but man, tryingto find someone under the age of twenty
five you can handle. You canhave a fucking a flowing, natural conversation
with where you don't have to shoulderthe burden of carrying the conversation. Ah,
it takes Yeah, it takes alooking. I've learned with those people

(01:42:45):
you always have to end everything witha question because that engages like that's how
you engage those idiots like and withwhat you're talking about, with a question
that forces them to interact with you. Well, I'm finding out that when
I treat everybody the exact same waythey treat me, as far as how

(01:43:05):
vocal they are, how much theytalk to me, what they talk to
me about, everybody assumes I reallyhate them a whole lot. So I
think they need to turn that aroundand look in the mirror about that.
Oh we're back to projecting. Hdude. I start a new job recently,
not going in fucking buying into thebullshit that I've bought into all my
life because it's got me nowhere inforty fucking six years, which is we're

(01:43:29):
a family. Here, we're this, we're that. No, you're just
my coworkers. This is just ajob, and at any moment it could
end and the company could fire mebecause it'll mean two more pennies in their
pocket. That's all this is.And so I walk in with that attitude,
and if someone doesn't talk, someoneisn't outgoing, someone doesn't engage with
me, I don't make an attemptto do so with them. I'm seeing
this stand offish I find that hilarious. And I'm just like, by the

(01:43:53):
way, people that do talk tome, I talk to them just fine.
When people are so wrapped up intheir own shit, no one pays
attention to the fact that I'm havingcommons with their coworkers because everyone's head's buried
in their phone unless they're talking tosomebody about some by the way, something
they want to talk about. Andthat's what it's like working with gen Z.
And you know, I've defended thema whole lot in the past.
But like the people that I wasdefending that I am picturing in my mind,

(01:44:16):
we're not like the people I've workedwith in other other places. I'm
just gonna say that, all right, the people and the people I've witnessed
working in other places, which isto me more important. Like I know
people I've worked with who were completepieces of shit, horrible human beings.
The world will be a better placeif they would never procreate and would probably

(01:44:38):
drop dead right now. You wouldnever know that there were those type of
people. But when I walk intoa restaurant and I see fucking nothing but
employees don't give a fuck, andthey're openly not giving a fuck in front
of customers. What makes me thinkthey're going to walk behind the counter where
I can't see them, and they'regonna give a fuck all of a sudden.
And we are to the point nowwhere hey, gen X, uh,

(01:45:00):
what the fuck? These are ourkids? What are what are we
doing here? We've built these monsters? Now we but the collective we where
did we go wrong? Well?I bet you we shoved them all in
front of a fucking screen right whenthey were little, a TV or an
iPad or a laptop that was morea millennial thing, wasn't. Yeah,

(01:45:20):
there's like there's two fucking by theway, as an aside, I love
this. By the way, there'sthe window to be a millennial is starting
to shrink as gen Z grows infucking prominence. And I'm just loving the
fucking screaming and crying and gnashing ofteeth from millennials because I'm just like,

(01:45:40):
oh, you mean like, becauseyou did this to every generation it wasn't
you were boomers. You don't likeanyone it has done to you? Huh?
But uh, yeah, I wonderhow quickly gen X is going to
all of a sudden become numerically relevantwhen the boomers start dying off and the
younger generations need someone to point thefinger at and blame. Shit, No,
it's gonna you know what it's gonnabe when we all retire and have

(01:46:03):
all the money, because I'm justwatching it in the news, the same
they're saying the same shit about theboomers they were saying about the greatest generation
when we were in our twenties,like, oh, you're keeping all the
jobs, you're not retiring. Ahyou what I'm reading about the great wealth
transfer that's coming and all this andthat because they're all about to retire.

(01:46:23):
I'm like, dude, this isthe same fucking shit I was reading when
I was twenty one twenty two,Like, oh, apparently we just hate
old people and it's gonna be ours. It's gonna be our Rich's gidding that
it's gonna be our turn in thebarrel soon, and Millennials, it's come
for you and gen Z sleep tight, you're young, now enjoy it.
Well. I just think it's hilariousbecause it's gonna be what. It won't

(01:46:45):
matter. But just as of rightnow, what what gen xer has been
in charge of anything enough to makea difference? Yeah, right, have
we even been ahead? Have weeven been in the White House? Barry's
next, No, he's a booHe's not he's a boomer. Yeah,
he's he's a young boomer. That'sright. There's never been a Gen XRA
in the White House, and I'mguessing there never will be unless it's a

(01:47:08):
vice president. Nola Harris might bea vice president. There's been at least
three boomers in the White House fourClinton, Bush, Burial Bombs Trump.
What Biden's not a boomer? Bidenwas born before forty five? Let me
hold on, this just goes quicker. Sorry to everybody who can hear me.

(01:47:30):
Hey, Siri, one was JoeBiden. Boy, No, he's
forty two. Not a boomer,he's a silent generation. Okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, he's my He'slike to put it in pop culture
terms, he's Johnny Cash's generation.How many people from Johnny Cash's generation are
still kicking around that you would trustwith the keys to your car, let
alone run a country? Just throwingthat out there. And remember Johnny Cash

(01:47:54):
died twenty years ago. Wow.Yeah, And just to show there's no
justice in the universe, Yoko Onojust turned ninety one. There's a stereotype
in there somewhere about Asian women thatlive in forever. But whatever, God
willing, we'll get a century outof her anyway. All right, well,
okay, completely topic shift. Ijust want to talk about this because

(01:48:15):
I think this is fucking hilarious.So Madam Web come out, Madam Web
being Sony, which owns the rightsto Spider or co owns the rights of
Spider Man along with Marvel slash Disney. So Sony's been trying to jump start
their own kind of superhero cinematic universe. They've had the Venom films, they
had the Morbius film. Now theyhad Madam Web. This movie is reported

(01:48:39):
to have cost eighty million to make. I don't buy that for one second.
A superhero movie that had extensive reshootsto the point where they pushed the
release date I believe twice, andit only cost eighty millions. That sound
right to either of you, guys, I don't know. Let me give
you a comparison here, Okay,like the Marvels. The last big you

(01:49:03):
know, Disney Marvel movie had almosttwo hundred million, one hundred and eighty
million. I think they admitted tooff the record, it was said to
be two hundred and fifty million budget. This movie, oh better than that
the Flash Movie. The effects inthis movie are being compared to the Flash

(01:49:24):
Movie, with the Flash Movie effectsbeing said to be better, and the
Flash was like redict I mean,like almost three hundred million dollars. So
my point is how effects were inthat movie? What the Flash Movie?
Yeah, yeah, they were fuckinghorror. Go look up screenshots. It
looks like a PS two or PSone game. I'm not exaggerated, Madam
Webb has the same level of effects. The point is is that I think

(01:49:45):
I think Sony's trying to sell tosay face because this movie opened up.
Okay, by the way, thisis their weekend now. It opened up
Wednesday morning. They stopped collecting boxoffice for the weekend. That's how they
do. That's how they come upwith the weekend for this movie. All
right, So five out of sevendays is the weekend. Apparently man and

(01:50:11):
I got a job yesterday at aplace where this weekend exists as of the
opening of movie theaters yesterday. Sothrough the end of so all day Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sundayand Monday. Six days. This
movie took in twenty seven point eightmillion in the United States and Canada,
and it took in twenty five pointeight and the rest of the world.

(01:50:34):
This movie is a fucking financial disaster. It's a critical disaster Rotten Tomatoes.
As of yesterday, the critics gaveit fifteen and the audience gave it fifty
six. The Hollywood Reporter said thefilm doesn't even meet the lowest expectations.
It's an airless and stilted endeavoror endeavordriven by mechanical mechanical stream play, screenplay.

(01:50:57):
Excuse me. The film operates ona need to know basis, forcing
people to explain themselves through ant ineloquentlybreathless exposition. Peter Travers called it god
awful, second to none in thedark act of second to none, in
a dark act of boring you.Breathless story is absurd. Listen New York

(01:51:17):
Times dialogue, snort out loud,funny, the fight's uninspired. Uh yeah,
it's just it's completely fucking horrible.Now, you got to understand the
backstory about why this is such abig thing for fucking Sony, and it's
such a big deal. Sony wastrying to create a female centric Spider Man

(01:51:39):
offshoot with this Madam Web character.It's not a character they come up with.
It's a character from the comic books, but she was an old woman
who was blind and paralyzed. Instead, it's played by a thirty two year
old who I like, Dakota Johnson, who like for some reason, looks
really good in this movie. Tome, I don't find her attract if

(01:52:00):
anywhere else with this movie. I'msorry. Go ahead, Yes she is
the that's just what I've never evenheard of this movie. For the record,
she cast her as the main characterever again in Anything After Fifty Shades.
She no, I mean, Idon't know that I did either.
If I'm being yeah, I meani'd a lot of clips of it.

(01:52:20):
I didn't like, sit down andwatch it. I don't think I'm literally
looking. I'm looking at her.She was in a Social Network, she
had a bit part. I don'tremember her in Social Network. I do
remember her character in twenty one JumpStreet. She was the undercover cop who
tried to fuck Channing Tatum or wantedto fuck Channing Tatum. I'm looking at
the fifty Shades movies. She's ina bunch of those. But I've never

(01:52:42):
seen them, and then Madam Webb. Now here's where Chris might be able
to save us. She was inthe Office the final finale, apparently what
i'd avoid season nine, like theplague. I think I've seen The Office
finale like twice. She played Dakota, So apparently someone named after herself.

(01:53:08):
Oh, she one of the audiencemembers or some shit. I never watched.
Never watched The Office, So Idon't know an accountant who replaced Kevin.
Oh, okay, yeah, sowhen they're telling Kevin's backstory, that
part all right. She's also she'salso Don Johnson and Melanie Griffin's daughter Griffiths,

(01:53:30):
so she's she's an NEPO baby.So it makes sense that she's been
in a bunch of shit that forthe most part, nobody's seen, probably
because she got parts through mommy andDaddy's connection. I brought this up to
on the We's Bean podcast as well. Third genetic makeup. Are we surprised
she's not like a great Lespian likethey weren't exactly throwing awards at Don Johnson

(01:53:51):
and Melanie Griffiths. No, I'mdude, I'm with you. I have
no idea about her acting ability outsideof like I said, she was in
twenty one Jump Street for maybe atotal of three four minutes, has two
lines. If that that's the extentof her acting. I know. I
just started seeing pictures of her andI was like, Yo, who's this
chick? And then I was likechick from Madam Webb because like, I

(01:54:14):
don't know, Chris, are youaware who Sidney Sweeney is? I'm oh,
yeah, okay, all right,just make it sure for rack.
Okay, well, I have definitelyfigured something out about myself despite my ex
wife. I am an ass manbecause I take the code of Johnson over
shit. I know this is fuckingblasphemy. I know it is, but

(01:54:38):
I take the code to Johnson overSidney Rich. I have another question for
you because the podcast I listened tobrought this up, and then Aaron,
my partner in the Wean podcast,brought this up unprompted, not knowing that
another podcast I listened to has broughtthis up about Sidney Sweeney and political correctness
on this podcast is out the window. She thinks she looks a little like

(01:55:03):
maybe a touch No, you can'thave a touch of down syndrome, but
like, do you think she's alittle fucking like she's sub triple digit IQ.
Yeah, she looks a little you'relaughing. She So what she does
is she it's her eyes. Yes, she has a big forehead and her

(01:55:23):
eyes, and then she tries toreally lean into kind of like that Twiggy
sort of look. Yes, likereally super skinny. But okay, I'm
talking about with the eyes with thatlike seventy sort of doe eyed look.
You're okay, bedroom eyes is whatthey called them back in the day,
like kind of like halflitted look.Well, okay, Twiggy like a lustful

(01:55:44):
look or whatever. Yeah, yeah, hold on, she was from I
only know Twiggy from America's Next TopModel, that's it. But she's an
old No, I know who Twiggyis. I remember her when she was
actually a model. Yes, Rich, you would appreciate this. Aaron of
all people, then brings up Davidtel You know what, you know what

(01:56:08):
I'm gonna say, she might beretarded, but those titties ain't retarding.
Now, don't get me. Okay, listen to me. I'm gonna defend
myself here on this one. Okay, not saying I would pass up Sydney
Sweeney. I'm just saying, I'mthe very, very very ridiculously ridiculously contrived

(01:56:30):
needs to be the name of thisepisode, ridiculously contrived situation where they're both
in front of me and willing,and I had my choice, but I
can only choose one. I'm goingto go with the coda Johnson, and
I don't know why, but Iguess it's I'm coming out of the closet.
I guess I like, okay,listen, because I don't know how
that happened. I've recently had asimilar revelation in reverse. My whole life,

(01:56:53):
I have called myself an ass man, but when you look at my
track record, I am apparently atitty man. You look at anyone I've
been in a long term relationship,you look at my current girlfriend, like
I apparently like titties. Dude,I'm with you because I thought I got
in my head I have said I'ma breast man, but then looking at
my team photo, I'm like,yo, and it's like, am I

(01:57:16):
an ass man? Because it doesn'tlook like I'm an ass man. I'm
just saying it's a very particular typeof ass it has to be. It
can like it ain't that. Idon't like the parking lot ass, the
wide flat one. I got alot of boys who like parking lot ass.
I don't like that. I don'tlike hilly ass. I don't like
it wide and bulbous like it's Ididn't like what I like And I'm sorry.

(01:57:40):
I'm white and I want I wantsome I want ass cleavage. But
god damn it, bitch, ifit looks like you're sitting on a couch
when you lean forward, you gottoo much ass. Okay, it's just
too much ass. I'm sorry.So what do you ask? Or tits?
Jess Oh? I feel like y'allare on this journey of self discovery.

(01:58:02):
I do have to leave you,but I wish you the best of
luck on this for the duration.But y'all, y'all enjoy talk more,
learn more about each other, yourselfcool, we keep objectifying women, have
have the best time with this,and uh yeah, talk to you soon.

(01:58:25):
But yeah, it's about to I'mjust saying, dude, at a
certain point, okay, what youlike to look at when it comes to
celebrities or actresses or musicians or pornstars whatever, and what you are attracted
to in front of you physically.I'm learning those are two different things.

(01:58:45):
You know. What makes it makessense? I'm just too much of a
preview into my browser history. Butmakes sense well, I mean because,
like I had to explain this toa female reach, I was like,
look, no matter how beautiful youmay be, you are only max and
out like thirty percent of of gettingto one hundred percent me being interested in

(01:59:10):
wanting to be with you in arelationship via your looks. When I was
younger, that was much much higher. Now I've actually developed feelings for women
who I wasn't physically attracted to atfirst. I know it's possible for me
to do, so, yeah,fuck it. Here looks they'll get you
in the door, they'll get myattention. But if you a fucking vile
bitch, I don't care how goodyou look. Oh, I've been saying
this for years. There are veryugly pretty people. You'd bet there are

(01:59:36):
plenty of ladies. They're definitely aneight or above, and as soon as
they start talking like, oh weird, we are sub four. Well,
this is what women in my lifedon't understand. When I tell them this,
I'm like, look, if Isee you and I don't know you,
and I think you're like above average. So above average it would be

(01:59:58):
like what seven, right, Yes, well, I'll be like eight and
a half seven or eight somewhere inthere right now. I don't know.
I know a lot of guys claimthat they are not like this, or
that they're I know a lot ofguys that claim that they're like this,
but they're really not. But andyou can put me in that category.
But Chris has known me for aquarter of a century. I think he

(02:00:20):
can back me up on this.I am very much a case by case
basis, just because I can seea woman and be like, Wow,
she's a fucking straight up eight.Let me go talk to her. If
I go to talk to her andshe's dumb and she's mean, and I
drops her straight down, don't getme wrong, she's still good looking.
But bitch, you've three and it'sonly that ass that's keeping you a three

(02:00:45):
for real. Well, so Ithink I'm the same line I've seen like
I've I've a chick I was intoa few years ago. I objectively probably
four, but on the emotional level, how much I was attracted to her
was definitely up there around seven eight, because of her personality. Now I'm
gonna make a blanket statement for dudes, and I do feel I can include

(02:01:05):
you in on this rich because ofthe way I'm going toward it. I
feel because you always hear guys alwaysthink with their dicks, I will say,
in the short term, yes,there is a short term decision,
there is a short term situation,Yes the dick wins. But if once
long term situations arise, feelings showup, the brain does get involved.

(02:01:31):
Absolutely well, dude, first ofall, yeah, this is what I
try very hard to understand, howlike why other people are the way they
are. But like at my age, I don't see the point of dating
just to date. I don't getthat. Well, you got a boyfriend
or a girlfriend, Well, yeah, I'm seeing someone, but you know

(02:01:51):
it's not really serious. It's justsomething to do. Well, the fucker
what are you fifteen? You're knockingon the door of fifty No, And
I agree, the fuck up andlearn to be alone for a little bit.
How about that? You know whatI'm saying. And so when you
when you because if you're constantly onthe prowl looking for somebody or something,
how do you know when you meetsomeone who's real and genuine. How can

(02:02:13):
you be objective about it? Well, I could tell you. For me,
my experience has more been like you, you need a few times to
figure out okay, not this person. Like it's not like like I think
the fantasy we have been sold islike, oh, you're just gonna know
bullshit. I think you really needto get to know. Like for me,
it hasn't been like I haven't beenserial dating. I've been like like

(02:02:39):
that, I've been test driving cars. That's kind of ladies. I'm sorry
if your feelings are hurt, butthat's really you need a few dates to
be like okay, this is worthstill giving my time to or like uh
all right, yeah no, nevermind. We tried and see, I
mean that's that's how I approach it. I mean, I get, but

(02:02:59):
I didn't. But to what youwere saying, I didn't start that till
I till I said this to somebodyand they kind of looked at me like
what are you talking about, whichmeans I guess maybe they're not to that
place. But I couldn't do thattill I could sit and lay in my
bed with the fucking TV off andno music and nothing playing and just sit
there and alone in the dark andbe quiet and be okay with myself.

(02:03:23):
If that makes any sense to you, No, it makes a ton of
sense. I just I guess,I guess I know what I want.
Then more importantly, I guess Iknow what I don't want. Well,
that's that's part of it too,right is for me? Is they get
like, oh, I mean,dude, flat out yeah, I don't
know. Okay, I don't reallytalk to you about your personal fucking dating

(02:03:45):
life, like in detail, butlike I my tolerance and my fucking fuse
for bullshit, especially bullshit that doesnot need to be happening. Basically a
woman who creates drama just to havesomething to do that doesn't. Man,
that doesn't last anymore with me,No, me even, And I mean,
like my last situation was I letit be known on a personal and

(02:04:09):
professional level, there's certain things I'mnot going to tolerate and she violated both
those on both levels, and Iturned around and walk the fuck out.
And it sucks, and I haven'tbeen fucking exactly thrilled about it. But
you know what, I wouldn't havedone it at twenty six. I'd have
sat there and taken this shit seenow, And that's that's what I'm saying
that that's where my fucking my vettingprocess is ridiculously long, and the fact

(02:04:34):
that it's ridiculously long will drive offthe wrong kind of women. But I
also think, and I've learned tobe okay with that. Well you,
but I think your vetting process lendsitself to this new frontier of online dating
because I think for me it hasafforded me the ability to ferret this shit

(02:04:57):
out that you're talking about. Thefact that now, like the standard is
is you talk online for a fewdays or a week or two before you
meet has enabled me to like,oh shit, all right, oh you're
so crazy. It's coming through digitallyand just you can stop wasting your time
like that. It just sounds likeyou just need to adapt your vetting process

(02:05:20):
to the digital world. Okay,It's just dude, I was fucking I
was so fucking out of the datingfucking scene for so long. There is
visible rush to be knocked off.I'll be the first to admit that.
But I also I very quickly whenmy when I dip my toe and was

(02:05:42):
like, okay, what is reallyout there? Like I very quickly decided,
Okay, yeah, I'm not dealingwith certain things. I'm just not.
And you say, oh, oh, I'm a digital digital dating world
that you'll they'll serve you up.Blah. I don't think so, because
I don't come across well, yeah, online as much as I participated in
forums and shit like that back inthe day, then to this day,

(02:06:04):
people who know me very well stillwill text me back and be like,
Okay, I don't know how totake what you just said. Was that
sarcasm where you being? Are youpissed? Are you joking? You've known
me for over fucking for going onthirty years, so I don't know about
all that, but I do knowthat if you tell some Okay, this
is what I've learned most recently,and I feel like I should have learned

(02:06:25):
a long time ago. If you'regoing I'm getting mixed signals, your answer
is no, Yeah, do youknow how hard of a lesson that was
for me to learn? Because I'mmister fixing, I gotta fix this situation.
Well, if only this, ifthis only happened, if I could
only get hurt to see this.Nope, not doing that, sweetheart.
I don't have much time left onthis planet. I don't want to spend

(02:06:47):
it trying to convince you how muchI care. If me telling you I
care and me not walking away fromyou is not enough to let you know
I care, I'm not the personfor you, so now you can watch
me walk away. But I mean, there's been a couple of people where
I felt it was like pulling teeth. I was like, all right,
we're like, like you said,life's too short, like it's you're not
interested. Boom, I disappear intothe wind, and I like, don't

(02:07:11):
have time for this. We arenot getting any younger. Every I mean,
there are red flags if every timeyou go to try to talk to
someone about how you feel moving arelationship forward, how maybe if they want
to be in a relate whatever thefuck, and they just stonewall you.
You're getting your answer exactly And itsucks. I get it. I know

(02:07:32):
it does, it really does.But man, like I think you know
what I've learned the last three years. You know, there you go on
the view they're Oprah territory. ButI've learned in the last few years learning
what you don't want is just asimportant as knowing what you want. You
know what I've learned, because I'veknown that for for a very long time

(02:07:55):
because I couldn't tell you what II'm one of those people, what do
you want to do? I don'tknow what do you mean? You don't
know you're about to graduate high school? I don't know what. You gotta
tell me what you want to do. I don't know what I want to
do, but I can tell youwhat I don't want to do about that.
So I knew what I didn't want. I guess way earlier than I
should. What I didn't understand was, and I guess I still don't.
How do you fund if everything that, everything that I was, that I've

(02:08:18):
witnessed and was taught via my environmentand and relationships I've had up to this
point is everything I consider a normalrelationship is some form of toxic relationship.
It's some form of uh not abuse, but like basically I I miss I
mistake toxic behavior for affection because it'sall you know. So it's really fucking

(02:08:43):
hard because it's like, okay,now where do where do you go with
that? What do you do withthat? Because I mean, it's it's
it's true, like I know ityou know, you've identified the problem.
Now you try to fix it.And I guess my point is is that
this is all shit that hardly anyonetalks about in day to day life.

(02:09:05):
You have to go online and youhave to go to certain corners of the
internet to find people even talking aboutthis type of shit, especially when it
comes to men in this type ofshit. But then it's like all you
fucking hear anymore is just like,oh, men are what half of men
under the age of twenty five haven'thad sex? Well, we're back to
go outside. That's you know,like just was straying into like was it

(02:09:31):
like sixty percent, almost seventy percentof men over the age or under the
age of forty report as of havingone or no close male friends that's close
or close male family members. Likethey're just not close to men, and
it's not like they're close to women. These aren't these dude, These are
not dudes that are running through pussy. Okay. These are just dudes who

(02:09:54):
are just alone. And a lotof it probably has to do with like
the shit we're talking about, becauseI'm sorry, but there is My old
coworker, Corey used to say inthe Gay world from the minute that you
become sexually aware and you know you'regay, to the minute you turn thirty,
you're a twink essential and you're fuckingas much or as little as you

(02:10:15):
want to. Basically, now,between thirty and forty, he called it
the gay death. No one wantsyou. You're too old to be a
twink and you're too young to bea daddy. Then you hit forty and
here come all the twinks who didn'twant you just the day before when you're
at thirty nine, but now thatyou're forty, for some reason, they
want you. Now. I getthat he was being he was exaggerating for

(02:10:35):
comedic effect, being hyperbolic, etcetera, et cetera. But that is
true, and it is true forstraight men as well. Yeah, I
said, I feel there's some straightparallels to absolutely what he's saying. Absolutely,
because at my last job, thetwo women who showed the most interest
late twenties, early fifties, itwas completely different how they showed interest.

(02:10:56):
Right, Yes, I know thebackstory. I can corroborate this. Now.
I'm not saying anything would have happenedwith either. I'm just saying,
like showed interest. Okay, butit was like homegirl that was that was
around my age. I absolutely knewthat she was showing interest. There was
no doubt in my mind. Theother one not so much. Now here's

(02:11:20):
the thing. I've dealt with bothtype of women in the past. I
just never realized I was dealing withthose type of women in the process of
dealing with them until this point inmy life. And I feel like that's
because hardly anyone talked about this shit. I used to say as I passed
over into thirty and then ended updivorced, I used to say to me
my friends, and I'd say,guys, do you look if you looked

(02:11:43):
at how much time we pissed awayin our twenties and our late teens,
chasing women who wanted nothing to dowith us, or just chasing a woman
period, not even a particular woman. God, I just don't want to
be alone instead of working on ourselves, Yeah, I just spent I say,
guys, if we just spent halfthe time on ourselves that we spent

(02:12:05):
looking for pussy or trying to keeppussy, we could name the pussy we
want Right now, I'll take you. Yes, as crass as that is,
I'm not saying that you're going youain't. By the way, any
check you can point, You'll belike, I'm gonna take you and she's
like, okay, probably ain't takehome to meet mama quality. I'm just
but they exist. And that's whatI'm getting at. Since my divorce and

(02:12:28):
I've been working on me, thetype of woman I've been attracting has turned
into the type of women I've alwayswanted to attract, like versus you know,
I tell you the O it wasjust catches catch can in twenties and
thirties. Oh well you're into me. Fuck, it's make this work.
And then wondering like, man,why don't I get like normal women attracted

(02:12:52):
to me? Well, I hadsome me work to do, and now
I'm getting like fairly normal women inmy atmosphere or spear whatever you want to
talk about late. But you knowwhat I'm saying, like, yeah,
you gotta it's to your point whatyou just said. I mean, I
just be what you want to bewith, I guess is kind of what

(02:13:15):
you're getting in. There's a freedomin not giving a fuck that isn't a
freedom that like people people who don'tgive a fuck a lot of people assume
that those people are living their lifegoing I don't give a fuck and I'm
gonna not give a fuck in yourface. Well, if they're walking around
constantly telling you how much of afuck they don't give, they give a
lot of the fuck. That's justsaying. But when you run across a

(02:13:37):
man who's an older man who trulydoesn't give a fuck, who feels secure
in who he is, yeah,I totally get it. And here's the
deal. They're rare and rare inthe fine and I'm fully aware I'm talking
about people my age. Do youdo you get what I'm saying? Like
just a man who's like, oh, okay, I know who I am
and I'm going to act accordingly andyou can do whatever you want. But

(02:14:00):
that doesn't mean I'm gonna sit aroundand tolerated. I see a lot of
people who go, you're not gonnado this to me, instead of going
I'm not gonna sit here and letyou do this to me. Do you
see the difference? Yeah? No, Yeah, It's like people forget most
of most of life is a choice, if not all of it, it
sucks. It sucks because I'll tellyou this, it's harder now that I'm

(02:14:22):
older and arguably a little bit wiser, It's really hard for me to like
have just pure hatred or animosity towardsa woman something didn't work out with,
even if there was some you know, fuck are we going on behind the
scenes on her part? Because theolder I get, the more I start
to understand where other people are comingfrom, why they feel the way they

(02:14:46):
do. And also I'm able tospot those people and be like, hey,
you know what, Sorry you're goingthrough that, but not for me,
have a nice one. And theseare all things that nobody taught me.
This is all just stumbling in thedark hoping to find a fuck light
switch eventually. And yet the minuteof bitch turns fifteen, the government can
send her fifteen pamphlets on how tohow to get her pussy eating out.

(02:15:07):
You're going we heard your body's goingthrough changes, blah blah blah blah blah.
Men left completely on our own.But it's always pooring. But I
mean it just goes back to onceagain, like if that's the only reason
you're looking for a fucking woman,then just pay a hooker, right,
Like I know you might have likemoral quandary about doing it. You might
have like an issue with it,but believe me, you're being more honest

(02:15:31):
about I have a physical urge.I just want to fucking take care of
with a person who's like, I'mhere just to take care of physical urges.
And you don't have to lie anduse me and ruin me for every
other man that it's gonna come afterbecause you lied to me and ghosted me
after you blew your nut and everyother bullshit. Just go fuck a hooker,

(02:15:52):
dude. You're actually doing the worldof service. But I can't believe
that's what most people want a relationshipfor. No, I've been in a
off of them and then didn't evenlasts long enough to know that the sex
always drives up, dude, Italways does. Yeah, that's why you
gotta make sure that. Yeah,that's why you gotta make sure. If
you're gonna set up shop with somebodylike man, you better hope you can

(02:16:15):
talk to him when after you're donefucking. That's why part of my vedding
process is so long. It's gonnabe a whole lot of talking, a
whole lot of getting to know eachother, a whole lot of scene.
If you can fucking not just I'mgonna make a Detroit reference. I'm gonna
stump the staff. You the burdenof carrying the conversation is on you,
not me. I'm a verbose motherfucker. Okay, I will speak and speak

(02:16:39):
and speak, So when I shutup, you better start carrying the conversation
or else you ain't worth having aconversation with. Yeah, post coital,
you better be real interesting. Imean. But once again, this is
something that like, Okay, lastsituation, Last last situation, chick or
was in her fifties, definitely appreciatedthe fact that she could sit there and
have a conversation with me, thatthere was no uncomfortable whatever the fuck you

(02:17:01):
know what I'm saying, Like,didn't know how to continue the conversation.
One in her late twenties took itfor granted, And I'm just going,
oh, sweetheart, you got alot of living and learning to do.
You just think that any dude whowalks to the door is interested in you.
It's just gonna be able to justfucking hit you with some golden tongue.
Fucking shit, Just tell her thathe was talking to Okay, half

(02:17:26):
your mom, have your mom finda picture of herself at twenty five,
and a mom find a picture ofherself at forty five and show them to
you. That's coming for you.It's not even that, it's just like,
well, that's why she's used to. But I'm saying, that's why
I think girls that age are usedto that, because dude, since since
fourteen or whenever the titty showed up, they've not heard. They've just heard

(02:17:50):
nothing. But yes, right thisway, man, I swear to God.
Yea, the older I get theI realized how bad I fucked up
with by pushing my ex wife awaylike I did. But the ex wife
was good looking enough to have confidence, but also was picked on as a
kid, so she kind of hadone foot in both camps to where she

(02:18:13):
could she could put she could puton, you know, a dress,
just go either way, put onsome makeup and turn some heads. Or
she could throw some fucking sweats on, throw her hair up in a bunch,
sit and talk some fucking bullshit withme all day. You know what
I'm saying. Like I got lucky. I didn't realize how lucky I was,
because man, it is very hardto find a woman that can do
both because all women can do bothfor the most part, but whether they're

(02:18:37):
comfortable doing both is what makes them, whether they can pull it off or
not. Just being honest, andin my experience, women who are when
you look at a woman who isobviously good looking, classically good looking,
however you want to put it,man to a to a woman, this
has been my experience. Any personalityshe's got is just a bonus, at

(02:19:00):
least till she's like thirty thirty five, And I'm gonna say thirty five now
used to be I'd say thirty,But I think women are scared of thirty.
Like the US like being unmarried orchildless at thirty scares women like being
unmarried and childless at twenty five,Houston, not that much. But by
thirty five something happens, dude,Yeah, because I'd believe the chances after

(02:19:20):
thirty go down significantly, after thirtyfive, very significantly, and then after
forty it's a fucking miracle if youget pregnant. Like so there's some like
psychological shit going on with them thatwe have no idea about. Oh,
allowed sticking up for you ladies,Like we're always firing bullets. We don't
get to we get to choose ifwe want to even take them out of
the gun. Dude, I havefucking compassion, nature, pitatriarchy, compassion,

(02:19:46):
pity. You always get to createlife. I don't. I don't.
I don't, I don't. Idon't know how you put it,
but like, I do have somea soft spot for older women who are
single and dating because I just seeit. I'm like, it's rough.
It's it's it's rough to witness becausemost of them, for whatever reason,

(02:20:07):
I don't really see the ugly womenbeing single at this age. Ugly women
gets snapped up at this age fairlyquickly, but the good looking one I
don't know if because I don't know, because they were when they were younger,
they just got used to being treateda certain way and they thought that
that was going to be how itwas for the rest of their life.
And they found out very quickly asthe looks started to fade that oh shit,

(02:20:28):
I need to have a personality andI didn't bother to develop one of
those. And watching an older womanhit on an older man is painful.
It is painful, like to thepoint where I literally want to walk over
and go It's a very good thing. You have a vagina, you would

(02:20:48):
have you would you would have nevergotten laid if you were a guy.
No game? Whatso left? Like? Literally the game is Hi, I
could talk for five minutes. Nowthat we've got that out the way,
want to fuck David? Well,he said, yeah, you're a woman.
All you have to do is showinterest. Well, but I'm talking
about women in like over forty allright, Or that's the tactic they take,

(02:21:15):
or they take this tactic. Theydragged their goddamn kitchen over for the
first fucking date and cook for theguy. I mean, it's not a
bad strategy. I'm just saying.I'm just saying those are your two go
tos. Let's let's let's let's hey. If I'm the guy, like listen,
I know right away if you cancook or not? I like that
plan. Okay, here's my thing. What's the guy's version of that?

(02:21:35):
Hi, I talked to you forfive minutes. Here's some dick I want
to put it in your mouth.That's not gonna work ever, Okay,
or what let me go over toyour house fix something. Now, Let's
fuck that ain't gonna work. It'stwenty four. Hey, let me come,
let me cook you dinner. I'vecooked dinner for people before. It's
one of my skill sets. Fuck, I used to live with a piece

(02:21:56):
of shit. He's a piece ofgarbage. Okay, so I'm very offul
telling this story. And he usedto run through his solid two and a
half and threes that he'd pick uponline all the time, sometimes three or
four within the same week. Hehad twice, he had two fucking of
these fucking heifers in the same day. As far as I know, he
didn't shower between them. But here'sthe pitch of it. By the looks
of these pigs, neither of themwould have minded. But I swear to

(02:22:16):
God, I'm not joking. Thefirst date was literally, Hi, how
you doing? And then it soundedlike someone slaughtering hogs upstairs, or they
drugged their fucking kitchen over cooked forhim. He took two fucking bites and
then it sounded like they were slaughteringhogs upstairs. Once again. Ladies,
if you didn't have a vagina,you'd never get laid. That is your

(02:22:39):
game. Your game is I havea vagina. That's it. In both
the scenarios, I said, howdid they end? Right? Didn't end
with more talking didn't end with more, ended with a okay, is did
we talk enough to get this outof the way, Let's fuck and here
eat this. Look. I've provenmy worth as a woman to you in
my mind. Let's fuck. Thescary part is is that this is what
women think their value is. Don'tcall me a hoe, don't objectify me.

(02:23:01):
Yet when they hit over forty andthey're single, they objectify themselves and
their pussy is their best asset.That's why I have a problem. I
don't want a woman like that.I have no interest in a woman like
that. It's fun trying to findgood ones. I don't have patience to
go through that. So I'm fuckedbecause I meet women in person, then

(02:23:22):
I fucking develop feelings for them.Then I start the vetting process, and
that's just how it is. Soyeah, but I mean, once again,
move the vetting process to the beginningof the line. I can't Why
would I spend any time trying tofigure out if I want to be with
you? If you can't hit,I gotta know that you're worth fucking being
with. I guess that's part ofthe vetting process. Well, think pre

(02:23:43):
screening. Well, little things likeyou know that. I mean, they
think this is a trick out oftheir book, but this is a trick
I just think out of a humanbook. Things like, oh, they
treat a fucking waitress. How's therelationship with your parents? That kind of
shit. I mean, you don'task them directly, but things you fare
it out, you know, dude, I don't even know where to begin

(02:24:03):
with the fucking issue. Shit,how long? Well? No, this
well, this one is not eventhis is an apparent issue. How long
is the closest friend they've they've had, right, Like I I've known my
best friend since childhood. That's putit in the young parlance. That's a
green flag, like, oh,my best friend somebody I've known from I've

(02:24:26):
worked with for two years? Whatin you're forty, dude, you're just
sitting here making me feel like shit, you have no idea how like you're
doing it until I just told youbecause I'm just going last one just set
nothing but red flags up for everythingyou're saying. Like, dude, seriously,
that's serious. Like childhood friend doesn'ttalk to anymore, completely estranged from

(02:24:46):
on the outs, hates her,does nothing but talk shit about it.
Daddy, We've said it before inthe show. You either love him too
much or hate him too much.Definitely in the fucking ladder, not the
former, or definitely the former notthe ladder never had any good say about
an ex red Flag. I mean, I just keep going. But I
mean that's and here's the deal.I've convinced myself all my life. You

(02:25:07):
got to put up with all thisshit up until about four or five years
ago, I mean saying we wouldlike sold this bill of goods, and
it's like, oh, you don'thave to, like you're It's like,
right, this fucking trust me.I know my parents cared for each other,
the trust me this, but Catholics, right, like you're taught like
part of life is suffering, Likewell, like you're just supposed to put

(02:25:28):
up with like all of these AndI think this is just maybe the old
school attitude towards marriage in general inthis country, Like, well, I
guess I just got to put upwith this broken person and all their bullshit.
Fuck it, No, you don'tlike fine, like there's a lid
for every pot. You just gotto find your lid or your pot.
I don't know, whatever metaphor youwant, whatever you want to be in

(02:25:48):
this metaphor, it just might takea while. Some people think they find
it or get lucky to find itearly, and some people it takes till
fucking Like I had had a cousinwho got married and like his sixties,
you know, and it's married longenough for the wife got cancered and I
think they were married like five years. But but you know what I'm saying,
like maybe sometimes two takes that longfor people to figure out like,

(02:26:11):
oh, hey, I'm I'm agood person to be a good partner,
now, you know. I meanit's well, I mean, dude,
that's that's the thing. And that'swhere I recognize. I recognize what.
I recognize that I bring something tothe table and I basically put a price
tag on it this time. Yeah, it's called I was sitting there and
I'm like, I okay, Hi, listeners, if this is your first

(02:26:37):
episode, this is probably some ofthe most positive you've ever heard rich b
Right, they ever heard me beon this fucking shit? I know,
third person ever heard any one beon ten me be on ten years in
this fucking podcast. So but ifnot, if you're a regular listener,
you're gonna know how fucking obscene andforeign. This is the last situation I'm

(02:26:58):
talking about. I was the onegoing, it's gonna be a good day.
We're gonna have a good day.I was the one trying to cheer
her up. I was the onetrying. I was the one worried about
her, fucking dude. And thenI'm just like why, Like I do
all this and I get no fuckingthank you for it? Why am I
going through all this If it's notappreciated, don't sit here, keep doing

(02:27:18):
it and get mad about it.Recognize it's not appreciated. Move the fuck
on. Like it's a curt relationshipthat we've kind of figured out. Both
of us divorced different versions of thesame person, and now we're dealing with
competent person and we both joke aboutsometimes're like like she sends me this meme

(02:27:39):
or this video of some movie.It's Jennifer Garner going, uh what,
I don't know what to do?And I always tender like Ricky Bobby,
like I don't know what to dowith my hands. Like we both like
a competent person who like actually returnslike an appreciation, like I told her,
like I'm not used to like nothaving all of my faults listed and
how I've like disappointed you in thelast twenty four hours, Like, well,

(02:28:01):
there's there's there's also you have tolike when you grow up with such
a fucking, such a vile environmentthat you don't know how to fucking basically
vet anybody. If all you've everif grown up and in the environments that
you come from, all all thatwas ever talked about was all your negative
traits. How you fuck this up, you fuck that up, You're no

(02:28:22):
good at this, you're stupid,you're dumb about this, this and this
and this and this. You neverlearn to really differentiate between someone giving you
a compliment because they're giving you agenuine compliment because they've watched you do something
and they're genuinely happy for you orimpressed that you were able to do it,
versus someone blowing smoke up your assand telling giving you compliments because you're

(02:28:43):
helping them reach their goal, butyou're not really helping yourself. Yeah,
you're suspicious, Like why you tellme? Why you tell me I did
a good job? What's in thisfor you? Or you don't know when
to go? Oh, you're onlytelling me I did a good job because
I'm helping you, But you nevertell me I do a good job when
I just do a good job andit doesn't directly benefit you. See,

(02:29:03):
that's something I never learned to lookfor until somehow, I don't know,
but like the last five years havebeen a hell of a fucking trip,
and at some point I developed theability to be like, you're only thanking
me when I do things for you, you're not or you're only acknowledging when
I do things for you. You'renot thankful, you're not grateful, and
you're not acknowledging. And by theway, you're not doing that with anybody

(02:29:24):
else. These are things I neverlearned to look for that I've only started
to learn to look for. Well, I think part of it is like
it's something we've talked about long afew weeks ago. It just goes back
to like your eighteenth birthday. Ofa sudden, there's these experts. You
don't just know how to be anadult. No, you have one birthday

(02:29:46):
and oh I know everything now,But these are things that the things they
teach you about being an adult,these are things they should be teaching you,
and you kind of have to figurethem out. On your own.
The fact that I'm doing with grownass people, people who have more than
a decade of being an a legaladult under their fucking belt, which means,

(02:30:07):
okay, and it is twenty twentyfour, but I'm dealing with these
people. And these people still believein Disney movie made in the thirties and
forties and fifties type of fucking love, and they think that's how there there
were. Not only do they thinkthat's how their relationship should be, they
feel entitled for their relationship to beat Disney fucking romance. And if it's

(02:30:31):
not, fuck you, you're notgood enough. Yeah, man, no
rom coms lie to you. Ijust wanted to have a simple conversation.
Hey, I'm feeling this way.I kind of get the feeling that like
you're feeling the same way. Arewe on the same page, Because if
we're not, maybe I need totake a step back and we can figure
it and I need to figure somethings out. But if we are,
and we need to figure out whatwe're gonna do about this, do you

(02:30:54):
know the only reason I felt badabout trying to have that conversation that's not
romantic? Why am I worried aboutthat You've known me for twenty five quctually
like type person to walk around worriedabout how I'm being romantic or not.
No, because it's because of her, because that's what she wants, because
she's been fed someal bullshit exactly exactly, and that like like that has not

(02:31:18):
changed the ten years, the tenyears out of the dating fucking pool that
I was out, that is notchange. No, yeah, like there
is no margin for error, likeI feel that like the last two really
major relationships I had, like thatwas the standard with her was there's like,
no, there's no like, well, that that's not life like life

(02:31:39):
has. There's gonna be errors,especially if you want to fend a considered
amount of time together. There hasto be My I'm giving you margin for
error? Why do I not getmargin for error? Okay, let me
let me Let me explain this forpeople who are maybe going, what are
they talking about? All right,won't name names. But I was with
an ex and this woman said,up to that point in her life,

(02:32:03):
I'm sure she's had plenty of sexsince me, and Ha's had plenty of
better sex than me since this,But she was, like I was in
my twenties, so you know whatever, she was so isht and she was
like, You're the only dude I'vebeen with who like moved me around,
switched me in positions in the bedroomand it wasn't all super awkward and shit.
And I'm like, how the fuckyou think I got that way by

(02:32:24):
having a lot of sex and movinga bitch around and getting positions and being
awkward until I learned how not tobe awkward. Point being, really can't
get good at something unless you tryit. Yes, And it's not even
in most guys to go up toa woman and be that honest about their
feelings because they're worried about rejection.Here's the bitch of my situation. I'm
not worried about rejection in that aspect, But I also rejection isn't my concern.

(02:32:48):
Not being living up to whatever bullshitfucking fairy tale they have in their
head is my concern. Once again, reality is being stopped by someone's fantasy
of how the world should be.But you know, I think you kind
of hit on something there, bothof that. That's all male Egolcome,
what is male ego? Welcome tohaving testosterone? What is male ego about?

(02:33:09):
Making sure that she feels you're beingromantic enough, because that's not male
ego. Male ego would be like, gag on my cockpitch, that's right,
my dick's so big you can't airair, can't fuck with you with
my dicks in your mouth, that'show big. That's male ego. So
I don't understand that it's the feelingof it's the provider instinct wanting to give

(02:33:30):
you what you want. Okay,Well that's a different conversation for a different
podcast, because the same thing onceagain, ten years out of the dating
game or ten years out of theplaying the whatever game with the opposite sex,
that shit ain't changed either. Yeah, No, we did, topics

(02:33:50):
we're talking about all the time.No, Yeah, men and men and
women chemistry always going to be athing. There's been years and years of
documented studies on it, and nowwe're just trying to throw it all out
the window. I mean, andthat's God Jesus Christ, you know.
And I hear this from women online, but I don't really know many women

(02:34:15):
in person who say this. Butlike, there's so much bullshit that women
have no idea goes into trying toapproach a woman these days, every single
thing, you're being fucking put undera microscope about every single thing. If
you if you forget it. Oh, I've been clearly told. I've you've
been googled. Go ahead, youknow. I even tell my current girlfriend,

(02:34:39):
like, you're gonna find Uh whatdid I tell her, You're gonna
find a divorce? And what elsedid I tell her? I don't know,
Oh, you're gonna find a divorcesome traffic tickets. She was even
joking because she just got a jobworking for the county she lives in.
We're going to prosecutor's office. Thatstill knock yourself out. That's the where
we live in. Now, that'sand that's there's one thing to contend with.

(02:35:00):
Who I've I've heard about uh,And I think I've been told like
they they'll stalk your social media too. See that's the thing I don't that.
This is, This is just me. This is how I deal with
shit. If the chick is straightup and righteous and it's coming at me
fucking legit and in good faith,like okay, cool, But all my
social media is on lockdown. Soeven if she stalks me on social media,

(02:35:22):
all she's gonna see is my profilepicture and whatever my fucking banner picture
is. It's a Facebook you gotto be my friend? Is he anything
I post? Yeah, everything isunlocked out, And I mean the reason
for that is they're still gonna wantto see it. I guess that's my
point. Well, if they wantto see it, just that it's flat
out and that's That's the other thing. That's something that I guess I've been

(02:35:45):
lucky up to, up and upup until the last two women I've I've
had feelings for, because boy,I've had to learn to say this phrase
a lot. All you have todo is ask please, I'm begging you.
Stop assuming the worst and acting asif that's a fact, because that's
gonna just cause problems. Just assand they can't be bothered. They cannot

(02:36:05):
be bothered. And I'm just like, okay, and see shit, this
is what I'm saying, This iswhat I do, This is what I
guess. This long winded bitch andfucking session about being you know, welcome
to the he Man Woman haters Club. But this week's version of it is
all about it. It comes downto it's just like, none of this
shit is shit. I'm willing toput up with And I'm honest enough and
I'm self aware enough to know thatif I'm not gonna put up with it

(02:36:28):
from a chick who's my age,who I'm physically attracted to, what makes
a chick who's fucking younger in methink I'm gonna put up with that shit?
And I kind of feel like,especially in my personal experience, when
you deal with younger chicks, theykind of feel like they're entitled for you
to put up with their shit becausehey, I'm I'm younger and I'm hot.
It's like, yeah, the wall'scoming, bitch. That's that does
not give you license and an excuseto be a horrible human being. And

(02:36:50):
I mean, like, I getit. I understand when you're super fucking
pissed and you don't want to fuckingyou don't want to talk, you just
want to fucking rage at the personand blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. But I also didthat shit when I was a teenager for
the most part, when I wasin my early twenties, when I was
fucking like that type of shit,just God, yeah, rich, I

(02:37:11):
promise you, I mean, andI guess too. It's when I when
I traveled, I got what Igot perspective. I promise you there are
there is a woman or women somewherehearing your voice right now, going yes,
how do I get in touch withrich? I'm just saying, like,
for every lid, there's no everypot who's ever thought that, dude,

(02:37:33):
I know every woman that's ever beenlike, you know what, You're
not half bad. I'm like,I know, I know I have to
convince you. I get it.I know. My grandmother looked me dead
in a face one of them she'srambling gambling man, my Bob Seger.
You know I ain't good looking,but I ain't shy. Ain't afraid to
look your girl in the eye.My grandmother, when I was a child,
used to play that song, singthat part, look at me and

(02:37:56):
go, that's you. But that'sa good that's a compliment. Yeah,
that was a compliment. Okay,one of the best backhanded compliments I ever
got, because I went women likeconfidence. I went to the fucking bar
to see a buddy's gig. Heplayed first. He asked me to stick
around out of respect, you know, fly the musician flag thing. Rest

(02:38:18):
of the band sucked, but Istuck around out of respect. I told
him, you're at least buying meabout four or five beers. So I
posted up at the bar and thisbartender come over, and this chick was
fucking gorgeous, and she started talkingto me, because I know better than
to try to holler at a bartender. That's like, dudes who think they
can fuck the bartender and think thebartender want to fuck them are the same
dudes who think strippers are really intoit. Dude, I know a couple

(02:38:41):
of guys who have fucked the bartender. Took her home and knocked her up,
and it knocked her up, puther on the long term plan.
It just it doesn't go well.Just just just keep staring at the bartender,
fellas. I'm just saying a noguy who lived in the fantasy.
It's not a fantasy. Anyway.She comes over and starts talking to me,

(02:39:01):
and I'm like okay, and I'mthis was in the middle of my
lost decade, so I was onlythere to do one thing, play my
gig and get as fucked up asquickly as possible. And I did not
care about female companionship whatsoever. Thishit come over and just would not take
monosyllabic answers and grunts for an answer, And so I ended up talking to

(02:39:24):
her, and about two hours intoit, like literally other bar patrons were
coming down to where she was standingin front of me, talking to me
and going can I get a beer? And she go, oh, yeah,
I'm sorry, and she keep talkingto me and gets them in their
beer and I'm like, okay.So at the end of this, I
know better than to ask for anumber. I know better, Okay,
But I got a buddy who's adumb ass, and he doesn't and so

(02:39:45):
he's like, Bro, you've beentalking to this shit for two hours.
Are you gonna give him his number? She's like, look, I got
a boyfriend. And I'm like,see, why do you make her lie?
Why do you make me fucking haveto sit here and go, oh,
yeah, I'm sorry. She's like, I'm seriously, I'm not lying
cause I'm gona be honest with you. If I was single, yeah,
she's like, and here's the deal. If you were good looking, you'd

(02:40:05):
be dangerous. And I was andmy buddy was like, oh she just
oh she roasted you. And I'mlike, that's a compliment. Like basically,
she's just saying like, yeah,if you were good looking, you
can probably fuck me right now,even though you got a man. Damn.
I feel like that's information. Youcould have ferreed it out earlier than
two hours. That there was aboyfriend. There was no ring, but
the way she talked, yeah,she wantn't be a fourth She was a

(02:40:26):
bartender. Bro. It's like thestripper Strippern can come over as are talking
about her husbanus. You're into that, No, but you, you know,
skilled a conversationalist, which as youare, I at least kind of
directed towards reek and at least findout. This was during my lost decade.
I didn't give a fuck about femalecompanionship. I didn't want to talk
to her. All I wanted wasfor her to bring me drinks. But
she kept talking and I was like, okay, cool, which really,

(02:40:50):
now that I think about it,there you go, dude, that's really
the story of my fucking life,outside of maybe two women in my entire
fucking life. First, she's justfeeding you drinks to get it good tip,
bringing this guy nine beers. I'llget a decent tip. I tip
a bucket drink. Yeah, it'snine dollars, so, but I mean
like it should be a decent amountoff me that night, I probably think

(02:41:13):
I probably had about seven eight beerssomething like that. Sounds about right,
seven eight beers in two hours.Oh yeah, yeah, that's depth.
I'm surprised I didn't do more thanthat and then in two hours fucking at
that point. But I must havebeen broke that night, because I clearly
remember it. No, man,it's dude, it's That's what I'm talking
about. That's the difference. Iam not good at the fucking high I'm

(02:41:35):
here to meet you. I'm noteither. That's why the Internet was a
god sent for me. I'm greatat the conversation. I'm terrible at the
icebreaker. The Internet solve. TheInternet solved that problem for me. No,
See, the Internet fucked me becauseI am great at the conversation.
I'm horrible online. I walk upand talk to anybody, don't give a

(02:41:56):
fuck. I am horrible at sittingthere trying to keep a comveration going.
Online. Put me in front ofthem, put me on the phone.
But that's also my problem, isthat I got to sit there and talk
to these women because once again I'ma fucking weirdo. Yeah, you're good
looking, but that only gets youthrough the door, sweetheart, especially now,
because I'll be honest. I'll justbe brutally honest here. I'm a

(02:42:16):
cut of hair away from fucking mylate forties. So if I'm dating an
age appropriate woman, so she now, if this woman's still really good looking
in her late forties, she ain'tgot many more years of being really good
looking, or she's nutty, whichis one of the reasons I'm kind of
glad I want to talk to himbecause I can fucking be like, oh,
you're crazy, dude. I've hadtwo women who were age appropriate,

(02:42:39):
we'll say, in the last sixmonths, show interest in me to the
point where there is no question inmy mind whether they're interested. And both
of them talk that Crystal woo woobullshit, and I was like, we're
done. Oh, then maybe thisis where how everybody now wants to fucking
FaceTime will help you. Maybe maybethat's your halfway that that is what I

(02:43:01):
hate everybody like it's my current girlfrienddidn't like that was already on the plus
side for like that, like that'sthe new like the new first date is
the fucking face time or the videochat. Oh fucking hate that ship,
dude. Fuck okay, I wascool until right now. Now I'm just

(02:43:22):
gonna dialone. I can't do this. I can't do it. I'm not
built for this world. I hatethat shit. My out is always the
same thing. Like my job.A good portion of my job for the
last ten years has been talking onthe phone. I hate talking on the
phone. And if they're a reasonableperson, that's usually green flag number one

(02:43:46):
for me, you know. Butif they if they hem and han they
got a video like there, yougo to me that they always got to
get their way, That's that's redflag. Like I said to me,
vetting starts from high hello. Butthat's it's just me and how I'm built.
Well, maybe I do that ona subconscious level, and I don't
realize it because there's certain people thatI just meet and I'm just like,

(02:44:07):
no, it doesn't matter how longI work with them, it doesn't matter
if I work butt cheek to buttcheek next to them. I just never
have any interest in getting to knowthat person or being friends with that person.
I don't know what it is.And it's not like I have no
I get it. There's definitely veryfew people I meet where I'm like,
I dislike this person right off theget go. It does happen, happened
in my last job, but notvery often. But like, this isn't

(02:44:30):
that, this is just me,Like, no, I just have no
interest. I don't care. Iknow, like working with people, like
I got like two scales or maybethree scales, like i'd hang out with
this person like this person's all right, or I would not hang out with
this person. Like those are likemy three baskets. I put people in,
I mean, and I treat themaccordingly. I just look for certain

(02:44:54):
things to tell me this person isnot worth my time or effort. People
who stare off plank right at thebeginning of a conversation a minute, this
minute, you have to say somethingmore than three words. Done. If
you can't fucking focus for that long, we're done. Well, like it's
for me. They'd be in thatthird basket. O. Yeah, we
wouldn't hang out like anyone who justcomes up and just starts talking small talk

(02:45:18):
shit, nothing of any fucking substance. No, I don't want to get
to know you. I mean thatone can change because they could just be
like Oh hey, sorry, Ijust thought you were like everybody else.
No, no for me yet likethat that person. It depends if they're
just trying to be generally friendly becausewe're just meeting. Sure, but if
you've known them for six months andyou realize, oh my god, this
is one of those people like theyjust talk to talk. Yeah, no,

(02:45:41):
I get you, But I alsoadmit, hey, I like you.
That goes a long way. Tellyou what. I'll tell you what.
Because I can think back about peoplewho I really liked and then giving
some time away, I'm like,yeah, wow, if I really didn't
like that person, I wouldn't haveput up with that shit. Wow.
Okay, all right. And I'mnot talking people I've known for fucking decades

(02:46:03):
either. I'm talking people I justmet, and I'm like, I guess
it's good that I'm catching that quickerinstead of letting, you know, getting
to know them for years and yearsand building up this like I have to
be loyal to them, because that'skind of like what I've come to recently
is like, if someone isn't loyalto me, is loyalty from me expected?
Still? Am I am? Iexpected to hold up my end of
the bargain. Well, then wheredoes my loyalty go to that point?

(02:46:28):
Because if there's very few things thatcan get people, there's very few things
people could do to lose my loyaltythat would be a shock to them.
And if they go, I hadno idea, bullshit, or you're just
you weren't, I tell you thatit's the it's a trope, and it's
a meme for a reason, butthe whole if I cut you off,
you handed me the scissors. Imean, but my my default is this,

(02:46:54):
okay, and this is the way, my code, my my ethics,
my internal fucking compass, moral compass, So however you want to put
it. If I'm loyal to aperson and that person is the only variable
in that situation, and I'm loyalto and they stop being loyal to me,
then my loyalty at that point becomesto the truth, to become to
look the person in the mirror,And especially if our loyalty was based on

(02:47:15):
I was always truthful with you,as truthful as you would let me be,
and vice versa, but the loyaltywas broke because you lied and let
me let me give If anyone's listeningto this and they're going like, Oh,
I've been the dude he's describing orthe chick he's describing in this situation
and kind of, you know,fucked up and lied to somebody and got

(02:47:35):
caught up in some shit. Theworst thing you can do is keep lying
to try to get yourself out ofthe lock. Just admit you lied,
take your lumps, move on withyour life because the cover up is going
to be worse. I guarantee,I guarantee you things would have been a
lot different for a lot of peoplein my life for the last i don't
know, five six months if peoplewere just straight up honest about shit.

(02:48:00):
And it's like, like I said, loyalty is earned. If someone earns
my loyalty, they have to unearnmy loyalty. But once they unearn it,
like I said, where does myloyalty fall to the truth to you?
I treat loyalty like trust can beearned and lost. And I mean
one of the things that I've OhGod, and this sucks to say,
because God, I love having IrishAlzheimer's. Forget everything but the but the

(02:48:24):
fucking grudge I hold against you.I like the older I get, the
harder I find it too hold agrudge against people like this for this,
for this type of shit, becausewhen I when I look at them and
I see it, I just go, wow, this is kind of pathetic,
and I feel sorry for you,like you got a lot, you
got a long, hard road aheadof you. If this is how you're
fucking looking at shit, I feellike that. But I also go,
you can leave me out of it. B There's definitely the last five years

(02:48:46):
have taught me to look at peoplethat I never thought i'd fucking say goodbye
to and be like, hey,look, I feel like I feel like
the Simpsons episode. I mean,I'm bart handing you the cake. Well,
at least you tried. I don'tknow what else to say, man,
because some of these people pissed awayalmost thirty years of good will.
Others just pissed away, you know, ten months. But all of them
got second chances from me, andChris can attest to this. Second chances

(02:49:09):
from me are rare. People needto learn to take better advantage of them
if they actually care. Yeah,I'm the same way, trust me.
There's a couple of people I've beenthinking about giving a second chance, and
I'm like, no, you letthat connection die for reason, stop trying,
stop getting soft in your old age, and realize no, Like,
let's because in the brain kicks in. Let's look at your life with this

(02:49:31):
person in it. Let's look atyour life without this person in it.
There are two clear trajectories. Youhave to stay on the better trajectories.
And I understand that. But I'vealso had to mature enough and become self
aware enough to realize that I ama factor in all my failed relationships.
In fact, I am the onlycommon factor in all my failed relationships.
Well, your part of this isyou do this when you're with this person.

(02:49:54):
You don't do this when you're withthis person. Like, yeah,
there are many factors, and yeah, I guess I'm breaking it down to
base level because yeah, you're alwayswith you. You gotta handle you,
you and you got to be likethis sun. Uh shit, thank you
for visiting Christopher media dot and that, thank you for visiting Christopher media dot.
That well you should wrapping up.Worth's like like three and a half

(02:50:26):
hours. It's post midnight. It'sbeen it's been a fucking hot minute,
man, just an hour ago,I don't know, you know what fuck
it it was well it was upuntil twelve minutes ago. It was the
twenty first. Here it's twenty justjust because it kind of the quote I'm
gonna fucking say at the end kindof fits in with what we've been talking
about. Do you know what happenedon February twenty first, like what famously

(02:50:50):
happened on February twenty first. Ifeel like I ran aheading the test because
they saw your Facebook today. Ohthen you Oh yeah Malcolm xIC got killed?
Yeah, yesday yeah, yeah,yeah, and yeah, it's just
his his quote that it's a knownquote, but it's not one of his
that get repeated all the time.But it's the one that the minute I
heard it, I understood. Iwas a kid, and I understood this

(02:51:13):
quote. There's adults that are olderin me. They don't understand this quote,
and that terrifies me because they probablypro created anyways. Quote is to
me, the thing that is worsethan death is betrayal. You see,
I could conceive death, but Icould not conceive betrayal. And then one
of his followers kill them. Ohno, it was yeah, this nation
is and they're trying well helped them. Yeah, Okay, but it's they

(02:51:35):
weren't CIA fucking They weren't fucking CIAagents posing as the Nation of Islam.
They were Nation of Islam members whoblew his ass away. So tune of
twenty one fucking shots in front ofhis wife and kids like the definition of
betrayal, which, by the way, two days before it happened, he
said in an interview, the Nationof Islam are gonna kill me. I

(02:51:56):
know what these men are capable of. I trained them. He wasn't wrong,
which, by the way, canbring a lighter note. The man's
a fashion icon because I can workout every morning. I post myself up
in front of the three local newschannels here in Detroit, and now a
lot of a lot of brothers inbow ties just say it's because it is

(02:52:18):
because it's February. I don't know, man, I don't know. I
noticed that today. I was like, huh, that weather man is in
the bow tie and that traffic eyesin the boat and they both got the
glasses on, and I was like, from the I don't think. I
don't think I'm Malcolm X in abow tie. I think I'm Malcolm X

(02:52:39):
in a fucking suit, a skinnyblack tie, and his fucking horn room
glasses like and since most pictures Isee of Malcolm X I see it are
black and white, I think isBeatles face like his black Yeah mod face.
Yeah, it was really into thewho at that point he was a
proto mod. It was before Quadropheniacame out. Yeah, but no,
man Like, I mean, Iget what you're saying, because Nation of

(02:53:01):
Islam, bow ties they kind ofgo together, I guess, yeah,
you know. I will say thisthough, Man, I will say this
all right for the uninitiated, don'tfuck with the Nation of Islam here in
the States. Okay. First ofall, they ain't the Muslims that you're
thinking of if you're if you don'tknow the Nation of Islam in the States.
They're not the Muslims you see onTV and the movies playing terrors.
These are homegrown black people who arevery militant, very much about fucking self

(02:53:26):
defense, healthy living. So notonly are they in the shape to fuck
you up, but they have themeans and to know how to fuck you
up, and they have the willto fuck you up very quick. As
he's saying, the hood, don'tfuck with the nation. They'll take you
to the curb, put your mouthon it real quick, real quick,
And that's no Joe. You willyou will not you you fuck with the

(02:53:46):
nation. You will see a bunchof corny ass looking brothers in bow ties
beating the shit out of somebody quick, fastening in a hurry. Yeah.
And by the way, if theFruit of Islam is involved, that's the
militant wing of the Nation of Islam. That's their paramilitary wing. That's the
wing that Malcolm X created and taughtusing guerrilla warfare tactics, and he and

(02:54:07):
he was killed to the two totwenty one shots in front of his wife
and daughters in public and daylight becausethey didn't give a fuck. By the
way, for those who don't knowthe music at the beginning of the show,
Rich and Jess usually can't hear anddon't know what it is, and
like they unless they've picked the song, Rich has no idea. I picked
to bring the Noise by Public Enemyin Anthrax, oh before the show,

(02:54:31):
and that's what we're gonna end upgoing out on here you go kind of
fitting. Yeah, that's what I'msaying. I was like, Oh,
this is gonna shoehorn nicely into thesong that's gonna and the show, which
which, by the way, becauseI've been listening a little bit more Public
Enemy lately. What the fuck happenedto Flavor Flave? Like, is he
just broke and he's like he's becomeeverything that Public Enemy raged about in their

(02:54:52):
early material. Flavor Flave has become. His backstory is wild. He was
DJ, he fucking Chuck D foras much as as much as he drove
Chuck D and especially Professor griff Nuts, Chuck D loved him. So it's
not Public Enemy without Flavor Flave.Might as well just be a Chuck D

(02:55:13):
solo album all this, dude,it's a whole big thing. But no,
I'm with you. I uh likehe became all them black stereotypes they
were talking about in their early shit. Of all of Public Enemies albums,
there's two albums of theirs that Ijust consider for myself, at least must
o't. It's Fear of a BlackPlanet and Enemy Strikes Black. Those are

(02:55:35):
the two back to back albums.But like, dead serious, go listen
to those albums. Everybody's on point, production's on point. You listen to
the fucking production of samples, andyou're like holy shit, you realize this
is like from eighty eight, eightynine to ninety Yeah, I feel great
a little bit. Ninety one doesn'tget the credit he deserves in the DJ

(02:55:56):
Realm. Well it was Termina interactswith their DJ. Yeah, my bad,
but no, but progressior Professor ProfessorGriff like he put out he wanted
he would he would do like shitlive and he had a few songs with
the group. And now this isall hear say from back in the day
thirty plus years ago. And heactually got thrown out at one point because
he started talking about Jews and they'rea New York based group. And you

(02:56:18):
can guess how that went. SoKanye album, because Kanye was like eleven
at that Kanye is like same ageas me, So Kanye was like thirteen
fourteen at that point. Who knows, Actually he might have had some beats
by that point. They know I'vebeen in a couple of bands at that
point. So yeah, I mean, no, Kanye, his first beat

(02:56:39):
was on the blue Print. Itwas heard of the city, so he
might have. But yeah, nowthis I know this from watching behind the
Music, from watching Public Enemy documentaries, from watching interviews with Flavor Flave and
Professor Griff. Professor Griff hates FlavorFlavor for the most part, like he

(02:57:01):
if he's feeling kind, he'll saylike, well, it's one of those,
but he's my boy. But thattype thing. Well, after Professor
Griff got booted from the group andthen he got he came back, which
was like ridiculous because I think hewas gone for a total of like six
months. Maybe I guess that's howlong it took shit to get out of
the news cycle back then. Nowadays, he'd have been out of the group

(02:57:22):
over the weekend and then back byMonday. But they were like, hey,
why don't you, you know,put some of your songs on the
next Public Enemy out and the rumorI always hurt. He was like,
I ain't gonna be I ain't putnone of my shit on the Public Enemy
album. They're like, why not, I'm gonna be on there with that
clown Flavor Flaves. They're like,you're in a band with him, Yeah,
well, I ain't gonna put himon it. I ain't gonna put
my songs on an album he's on. And that's how you got the Professor

(02:57:43):
Griff solo. I don't know ifthat's true, I have no idea.
This was pre internet. This waslike ninety one ninety two, so I
mean this was a but this wasin my circle of friends. This was
like it was one of those biggestas the hidden negative worlds in Super Mario
that you can get through if youknow how to do it, and all

(02:58:05):
this shit and except for I actuallysaw that happen in front of me when
someone do it with Super Mario Brothersand Nintendo. So I believe in that
this one. I don't know ifI believe so, but it is it
is on brand because Professor Griff hatesflavor flaws for everything he just said.
He's like, how the fuck arewe gonna be in public enemy? He's
not talking about fight the power,burn Hollywood burn, and this negro is

(02:58:28):
on TV pimp and bitches like asexactly what he said, And now he's
a I believe the term is coonery. Like I feel now he might as
well like when he does public appearances, he might as well be doing like
a soft shoe and shit, Idon't know, like I'm here to be
your but like he's getting the publicappearance to be like your black friend,
my black friends maybe we're like FlavorFlavor when he was younger. Right,

(02:58:56):
I'm trying to think if I haveany black friends. I'm trying to think
of if I have any friends anymorewho could be described as Flavor Flavor.
Like what's funny? I think,So I have a buddy who knows him,
There's a good chance I could possiblymeet this dude one like Flavor Flav.
Yeah, like like text him allthe time, like because it knows
him from buddy used to is orwas used to be like a promoter like

(02:59:18):
with bigger acts. So like Iguess, well, I guess Tune Flaves
still lives here, and I guessevery now and then they meet up in
Vegas and get drunk together. Butno, I know, I found out
a lot of the story about thechicken, But what happened with all that
he had like three restaurants around here, and until he didn't, restaurants pop
up and go under fucking all thetime. So but oh but I don't

(02:59:41):
why no, But I'm just I'mjust saying, like I just like,
even under the best of circumstances,like what is it, three out of
five fail something like oh yeah,Like no, they're notoriously risky. Why
do you think franchises are so funny? I don't want the game it gets
the incredible Ryan animal being uncable tee. I'm forgetting me number one. It's

(03:00:05):
five bother saying, man, Igot dumb. Ten of Tell's never really
doesn't had a gun. But it'sthe ways that determined they didn't get fun.
This guy you got me in herself, My reckons theyself because a
bother of like and he said,well, this matter come a problem.
Then I think you others are trudrewhere they can say to you what y'all
to do is problem for now?How all the people saying, make a
miracle dee the lyrical black and backhall in we're going away, chrick it
out here, y'all, come onhere, we're going again, raking these

(03:00:35):
dang ring The doors never matter thanbank of the Brothers, merrier than the
man that the famous could roll likea sayer. The soul of room that
you're treated like so one of ropebecause the beats and the loves are so
dope for listeners, I'm saying insideyou said that the treat it's all a
blasted in bren They'll never a carewhen the brothers and sisters white cross the

(03:00:56):
country has or something with the war. We got to demonstrate. They're going
that hap to wait until we geta rack radio space. It's like,
what'sn't there blackness? They call usup black, but we'll see you're something
lating. They sell you up.Bring the noise, nobody turn it up.

(03:01:16):
Bring the noise. I can't permitin front of me. The crowd
rush to me. My DJs warningX I call him nor you know we
can cut a record on side toside, So what the riot? The
sune some people saying for this,it's like so cos all meeting the father
on the rocking room music? Well, what you t you call a bad
man making a music a music butyou can't do it? You know you
called them or wi riding bust towhat you're gonna do? Repors not a

(03:01:39):
player? You BetUS? The sunnymos won the c for City DJ wouldn't
be a bad fan out of hisown feet. Get you, I go
see beets the hair being all aswell held back. They're like, I'm
a have a have a universal andwill sell not for me to exit,
terminate the exit. Bring the nosewhere you both goes the ghosts. I

(03:02:26):
used to feel like a coma gostand a man, and people to say
when I posted on the rock whensomething says you will ask why do you
want room with the rock star?Never get except that we got to plead
the fifth. We can't have missedthe game. We need to wait,
get the records, say hey,I need a bank, got playor terminator
ef The text played against me.We got to check it out then on
the avenue, but I canna seeit. It was just a mean discute.
Yeah, I'm telling you, joy, I got like you got Trilla.

(03:03:01):
Tell me did wicked Trilla? Tellme did wicked Trilla? Tell my
did wicked trill? T getting wicked? Jo get wicked? Thank you for
visiting Christopher me you're doing at

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