Generation Bold, November 22, Hear Dr. Vanessa Pavey

Life Extension

Episode Transcript

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When I look in the mirror,I don't see wrinkles. When I look
in the mirror, I see hairon my head, not my shoulder.
Hello. Hello, Hello, thisis Adrian Bergen. This is Generation Bold,
the Fountain of Truth, the Fountainof Truth about aging. And you

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know, one of the things Iwas thinking of doing with that show is
calling it the Fountain of Truth aboutthe Fountain of youth. And that's what
we're going to be talking about today. Everybody thinks that aging is all about
getting younger in age reversal, Well, guess what is a lot going on
right in that field? And whatare you going to hear today is from
somebody who is an educator with regardto what we can do not for sick

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care, but for prevention and wellcare. And one of the things I know
you guys are confused about, becauseyou tell me all the time, is
should I take a vitamin? Whichone? How about neutraceuticals? What is
neutraceuticals? Should I take that?I see they cost sixty dollars a month?
What should I afford? How doI trust I went to my doctor.
He doesn't know what we're talking about. So these are the things that

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plague US. And I'm going tostart by telling you that I did a
little survey. I read some ofthe research. There are twenty nine hundred
different neutraceuticals on the market today.Many of them you can get in your
own pharmacy. Many of you canget from companies like Life Extension. You're
going to hear today from the educatornatural path doctor Vanessa Pavey, with regard

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to Life Extension and what they're doingto try to demystify some of these issues
we have in our consumer life.I think this is perhaps one of the
most practical shows for you. Andbefore I introduced doctor Vanessa, I'm gonna
say this. My mom My motheris the one. She lived a past
ninety two, and she had terribleheart issues and eye issues, and she

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beat them all. And she saidto me, Adrian, I've got the
healthiest closet in America. And whatshe meant was that she discovered early on
coque ten taking an aspirin, vitaminD and many of the things that are
around the market today. She probablywould have been what they call a first

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responder, a first adapter, becauseshe liked to take it. Did she
know what she was taking no,but either do we. And it's twenty
years later. So thank you somuch, doctor Vanessa Pavie for being with
us today. And I'm going tostart with one question. You are a
natural path. I'll just tell usa little bit first. What is a

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natural path so we understand what naturalpathic medicine is all about. Oh,
that's such a great question because Ithink there's some confusion. So there are
or main medical degrees. There's theMVS, which most of us are well
more than familiar with. There's thed os, the osteopathic doctors. Then

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we have the doctors of chiropractic medicine, and then we have the naturopathic doctors.
So there are accredited schools for allof those degrees. They all utilize
the same medical sciences. They lookat the same anatomy, the same physiology,
utilizing the same science. However,what differentiates all for is the philosophy

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of how do we use this scienceto promote health? So, like,
for example, just to compare them V approach to MD philosophy versus the
naturopathic philosophy, the m D philosophyis all about attacking disease, so it's

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all about the focus is primarily onthe disease itself versus the nature paths,
but their focuses is on the healthpart. How do we build our bodies
up and give our bodies what weneed for healing itself. So that's the
differentiation between the two approaches. AndI will say that there's another conference that

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I'm going to be covering. Itjust finished yesterday, and that's called Catalist
Institutes Targeting Metabesity. These are geroscientistsand in fact about an eighty geroscientists over
four days. I helped run thatconference for the last two years, and
that is the new approach of geroscience, which is to look first at how

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you can stay healthy as opposed tocuring one disease at a time. We're
pretty good at looking at one diseaseat a time, we're very bad at
prevention, particularly in the United States. We'll talk a little bit more about
that later because some great breakthroughs arecoming out from other countries. So if
you're somebody who like myself right now, is a person of a certain age
and you want to stay healthy,maybe even reverse, we'll talk about biologic

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clocks that seeing if you can actuallyget a little younger biologically. While you're
getting older chronologically, you want totake the natural path, idea or philosophy.
Now, one of those things,doctor Pavy, is to get the
right nutraceuticals into your body. Thatmeans vitamins, but it's also other things

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that affect the cells. So I'dlike you to define now for us the
word nutraceutical. People know what avitamin is, they think, but they
may not know what a nutraceutical isjust in general. Can you give us
that? Because of course Life Extension, the company you're with cells nutraceuticals,
that's their business. What is anutraceutical? So a nutraceutical I would define

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as a nutrient that's found in nature, that is concentrated to the dose that
will have a physiological impact on thebody. Now there's three things to unpack
there. One is our found innature, and we're going to talk about
regulation and the reason why the consumerdoesn't know what to buy and there's no

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imprimature from their doctor or the FDAbecause if something is found in nature,
it's really not a pill, it'snot a compound, and so the regulatory
issues are different than it would befor let's say a pill. But the
second one is the right dosage.Now, I'm going to go to one
of the biggest problems we have.I got a lot of people listening Doctor
Pavey who take nutra suitables. Theyknow a lot, but one of the

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things that they don't know, evenfor those who are really good at it,
like my mom, is how muchto take. They see it says
five hundred mg on the bottle,so they take a pill, or it
says take two of these, sothey take two. They really don't know
what's right for them. Tell usa little bit about is there any way
that somebody could know not just whatto take, but how much to take?

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Oh good question. Well, Iwould say the probably the most important
piece of the puzzle is lab testing, just to get an idea of where
deficiencies may be. So I thinkthat's probably the best place to start.
And I think the most you knowobvious one is like vitamin D testing our
twenty five hydroxy vitamin D blood levels. Now, I just wanted to give

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a little bit of detail about labtesting, and this is something that Life
Extension does look into. So ifyou do ask your doctor to run the
twenty five hydrox and vitamin D bloodlevels and you get your report back,
and you get your number. Ifyou look at the reference range, the

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typical reference range for most laboratories inthe United States is between thirty and a
hundred nanogram's permilla leader. So that'sa huge range. So if you're technically
like, if your number because isback at thirty one, you may consider
that normal, or if your numbercomes back ninety nine, that could be

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considered normal because that's the reference range, which is based on population statistics.
Well, we know that that rangeis way too wide. I mean it
just even looking at it, peoplewould think, you know, I'm not
sure where I'm telling anything right,doesn't tell me exactly. So what life
extension does. Instead, we're lookingat not just average population statistics, but

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who are in optimal health and whatare their blood levels or what are the
blood levels that give the benefit tothe body that we're looking for. And
what we found with that the numberis between fifty and eighty, which is
much more narrow so we can knowif we're in optimal health. So if
you do run your blood levels,then you're at like sixty five, you're
doing pretty good with your vitamin D. So what I want to bring out

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here is and this is true formany things that we'll talk more about the
nutraceuticals, which could be compounds ora couple of things together in our next
segment, and we'll talk about theones that are in the news now like
an AD plus and M and Mand several of the others. Is it's
not just what you take, it'show much you take. And so one
of the things that's happening in thefield is precision medicine where people are able

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to go to pretty expensive it's usuallyabout a thousand to five thousand dollars no
joke doctors and they will give yousome precision as to what you need to
take and how much. One ofthe campaigns we have is to democratize that,
to get everybody to be equal,so that everybody can get some of
those assessments. We come back,I'm going to tell you a very simple

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way to do it for free.If you're a person of a certain age,
if you're already on medicare, I'llgive you an idea of how you
can get some of those really expensiveideas and how to implement them through a
company like Life Extension. Remember Iam not part of that company. I
take their stuff I take other people'sstuff. I get no money for this.

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I want you to hear about it. But they are a leader in
education and when you get your monthlynewsletter from them, it's like a book
with a really light of deep sciencein it, which is why I asked
doctor Pavey to come on. Idon't I'd be afraid, be honest with
you folks, to bring in justany old person to talk about this topic
because there is so much snake oilbeing sold out there. So we come

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back. I'm going to talk aboutwhat's hot, what's new, what are
people actually taking, and what's thestatus of precision medicine. And a hint
and tip for you as to howto beat like the rich guys and get
an assessment if you're a medicare alreadyfree of charge, and how to ask
your doctor for one if you arenot. Don't you guys go anywhere.

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But that doesn't bother me, notbecause I am happy and I'm inappropriate for
my age. This is Adrianberg onceagain, and before we go back to
our show, I want to doa little bit of bragging about out the

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We are one of the leaders inpodcasting for the older adult. Our topic
is aging, but aging starts whenyou are born and never ends. And
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He was on our July show.Please take a look at Adrianberg dot com

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of course finally ourselves. Add becausethere's such a huh about intergenerational residential living,

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maybe it's better to stick around withold folks. Maybe they're more interesting.
Who knows you read those articles?How do you find them? You
simply go to a booming uncore dotcom, booming uncore dot com. You
may think that don't bother me,not even because I am happy, I'm

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inappropriate. Oh hello, hello,Hello, This is Adrian Bergen. This
is Generation Bowl, the fountain oftruth, the fountain of truth about aging.
And one of the things that isin the news about aging is actually
age reversal. There is so manywords for this, therapeutics, gero intervene.

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Some of the things are as simpleas fasting for fourteen hours every day
and sometimes they call it interval eating. Of course, exercise, all the
things you can do at home.But another thing is neutraceuticals and vitamins,
which has become a source of confusionfor the consumer. Twenty nine one hundred
different nutraceuticals and countless companies. Recently, I went to a four day conference

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in San Diego called Radfest and Icovered it in a YouTube video which is
going to be published on Monday,so she can see what the new innovations
are and with thinking is for themost radical life extenders, But what about
folks like us who simply want toget perhaps the right dosage and the right
nutraceuticals or vitamins for us and adoctor doesn't know what to tell us because

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they're not prescription and they're not regulatedlike pills. So we have with us
today a leader in education in thisfield, and she's a natural path doctor
Vanessa Goland. She's one of theeducator educators for a very large nutraceutical company
called Life Extension. As I mydisclaimer, I take their medicine. I

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guess they wouldn't let me call itmedicine, but I take the nutraceuticals,
environaments, I take other brands aswell. I have no connection with this
company, but through the years,and how many years, nineteen seventy,
I started to take a look atthis. So it's a long time between
drinks, folks, I wanted youto know more about it, and so
doctor, doctor Pavey, let's start. Just tell people where Life Extension is.

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It is not an endorsement for me, because I'm not allowed to do
that, but I can tell youthat for decades I've been looking and using
some of their products. Explain whatLife Extension is so they get what we're
talking about. Oh great, well, Life Extension is a supplement company,
but I think more accurately, weare an information dissemination company. In fact,

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that's how we started. Back innineteen eighty two, men Bill Falloon
and Saul Kent started writing what wascalled the Life Extension Report. It was
really a newsletter trying to get healthrelated information out to the public. They
did not limit it just to nutrition, but also what pharmaceuticals would be helpful

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for supporting healthy longevity, what markerslike, for example, blood pressure,
you know what types of blood pressurewe should be gearing towards. So they
were just putting out any and allinformation that will help to support healthy lives.
And what happened was people were contactingthem saying, Okay, this information

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is fantastic, but in terms ofthe nutrition, how do we get these
nutrients? And that's what prompted themto start this supplement lines. Now,
I also want to let people knowthat part of the goal for producing the
supplement is to help fund anti agingresearch. So Life Extension has their fingers

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in many different parts of the research. Puzzle or I would say, is
we do conduct clinical research ourselves.In fact, we do have a trial
right now on stress that we arecurrently recruiting for at our corporate headquarters in
Fort Lauderdale, Florida. It canbe done remotely, So if you were

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interested in participating in supplement research,you could certainly check that out. But
since nineteen eighty, Life Extension hasdonated one hundred and eighty million dollars towards
anti aging and longevity research. Inaddition to that, if we call research
looking through published studies and compiling theinformation into our magazine. We do have

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a full team of people who arewriting for the Life Extension magazine. And
what's kind of interesting is that LifeExtension Report newsletter has actually turned into that
big production of our magazine. Rightin fact, as I said, it's
a book and it is free.So how do we just go on Life
Extensions so we can learn a littlebit more on our own through the web?

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Oh absolutely, I would encourage peopleto go to Life extension dot com.
We do have a few different tabsat the top. The one that
you might be most interested in isthe science and research tab that we'll talk
about the research we're conducting the magazineand the archives of the magazine all the

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way back to the nineteen eighty five. I think we've archived our magazines all
the way back there online. Butalso another important part of our research puzzle
is our health protocols. So wedo have a textbook called our Disease Prevention
and Treatment Textbook, but all ofthose protocols from those textbook is online for

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free. So let me explain howI use this. Because there are not
only twenty nine one hundred nutraceuticals,there are a thousand a thousand what they
called bioclocks, and those are teststhat you could take anyway from seventy five
dollars to a thousand dollars to seewhere you are with your own aging.

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Some of them are biomarkers that tellyou things as simple as your weight,
your cholesterol, your blood pressure,and different things that are in your blood.
And others are more complicated clocks whichactually tell you what age your body
is biologically. That's the new kidon the block to see your biologic age
in general, So it could bevery confused. I use the magazine this

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way. I go to the backand I look at conditions, and I
look to see what's bothering me,whether it's authoritis or whether it's cramps,
or what it might be skincare tobeauty, and I take a look at
where what they suggest, and thenI carefully read what they have to say,
which is usually pretty deep science abouteach thing that they offer. But
one of the things, and Imake some changes on a regular basis,

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let's say a quarterly basis, basedon the tests I take and what I
promised you, And then I havea big question for ductive and SA in
a minute. What I promised youis how do you measure yourself without spending
thousands of dollars like the rich guyscan do. Well, if you're on
Medicare, every single year, youget a free checkup, and you must

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take that checkup, and with thatcheckup, they will give you blood tests
and they will tell you these biomarkers, and then you can go on many
websites. We've had Agelists RX,for example on our show, where they
sell these blood tests. But youcan also input your own information from your

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Medicare record and they will give youa good idea as to where you're at.
But what if you are under theage of sixty five and you don't
get these free Medicare perks, Well, then you have to ask your doctor,
and your doctor will be able to, under most circumstances, find something

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wrong with you enough so that youcan get the full tests. All right,
Now here's the thing, doctor Vanessa, let's go back to this.
We seem to be entirely on ourown. Maybe there's a natural path that
we use that has an idea aboutnutraceuticals. But maybe they're making money from
selling these nutraceuticals because a lot ofthem have affinity programs. If you refer

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something someone to you to them,they give you ten percent. I mean,
these are the things that when youlook into it, you say,
oh my goodness, is this wholesnake oil. We are so much on
our own, and this is oneof your biggest complaints. Are we doing
enough as citizens scientists, let's say, to pressure our government to do better

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when it comes to regulation of theseand really look into it and give us
help. Or is all that goingto happen through this is more regulations so
we get nothing like many prescription drugsthat we can't get our hands on.
Very big political question right now.When we come back, I'd like you
to address it. I know you'reyou're in the medical field, not the

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political field, but this is apoliticized issue. So you guys, don't
you go anywhere. We'll be rightback. But that doesn't bother me.
I'm inappropriate for my age. Youmay think I don't bother me, not

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even because I am happy I'm inappropriate. Oh hello, Hello, Hello,
this is Adrian Bergen. This isGeneration about the Fountain of truth, the
fount of truth about aging. Oneof the major questions you ask me is
what should I take? The otherquestion you ask me is what do you

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use? Particularly if you see mein person and you know my life's story.
You know that almost none of myrelatives lived past sixty. You know
that my father died in age fortytwo of a cerebral hemorrhage, heart attack
and stroke. You know my motherhad heart disease all of her life,
immaculate degeneration. And you know thatright now knock on wood, and I'm
really knocking on wood, and almostseventy five, I've got no conditions whatsoever.

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I've been working on at kids.And here is the question, how
do I do it? Hit andmiss? That's how smart I am,
hit and miss. So we havetoday a doctivnessa Pavey with us, and
she is with life Extension. Takea look at life extension dot com.
I do get a lot of informationfrom them, but I get no money
from them, and I just Ihave to crack open this issue of how

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to choose a nutraceutical. So whenI ask you, doctor Pavey, what's
the most important thing you want tobring out? You said you're on your
own. Explain that to us.Oh well, if there is one message
that I wanted to provide is thatwe do need to be proactive for our

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own health. We can't put theresponsibility of our optimal health in someone else's
hands. Now, of course,there are people there to help, but
ultimately our health is our destiny.So there are quite a few different things
that people can do proactively. That'sone of the reasons why Life Extension provides

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this monthly magazine. In fact,we put a lot of resources into creating
it to help provide the information neededto help be proactive. Life Extension is
a supplement company which helps to fundthe creation of the magazine and helping to
fund research. But also really whatwe're trying to do with the magazine is

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provide not just like nutritional information,but also what pharmaceuticals may be appropriate,
and how to ask the doctor forcertain pharmaceuticals, what blood testing we need
to make sure that our numbers arein optimal health. So I think it's
a great resource to be proactive becausereally knowledge is power, and I think

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the more knowledge people have, thebetter choices that can make for their own
health. Yes, and one ofthe things that has happened here is politicalization
of our health. So I'll giveyou this is a nutshell, then I'm
going to throw it over to yourdoctor paving. The FDA Food and Drug
Administration is not the enemy. Theyhave been set up in a particular way
to look at one disease at atime and to have extremely rigorous lab results

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before they will approve a drug.And this deals with money because when a
drug is approved, your private insuranceor your Medicare Medicaid will cover it or
at least most of it. That'swhy this is so important because if there
are things that are not under therubric of the FDA, they're on private
pay and if they're effective to helpyou not have your immaculate degeneration or reversed

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a kidney disease or whatever, can'tget it unless you pay for it.
And so there's the halves and thehavenots, and that is where the rubber
meets the road. For me,not medicine, but equity and equality.
So what's going on. What's goingon is that life Extend and other companies
are doing their own lab results.They're trying to say that this is effective

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for this, that or the otherthing. The FDA is saying you've got
to stop that. You can't doyour own So that's on the world of
nutraceuticals. On the world of medicineor what they call gero therapeutics, there
are huge laboratories, including major companies. I'll give you some names, that
are also frustrated. They can't gettheir pills through because their pills they claim

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help aging, not a particular disease. And the third group is the food
companies. I just sat in onone of the sessions with Mars nest Lee,
right, the big big names inall this bigger PepsiCo, PepsiCo,
doctor Antonio, doctor Antonio, andhe was on a show. These are

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all supplements in foods that they saymake a difference, and they can't say
it, so we don't know whatto believe. On the other end,
should we be unregulated, should anybodybe able to say anything with the government
supervision? Very big political issue.What is going on with life extension as

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you see the market grow in thissteck to paper. Well, I think
there's a misconception in the public thatsupplements are not regulated, and actually that's
not true. They are regulated bythe government. In nineteen ninety four,
President Clinton signed the d Shay Law, which is the Dietary Supplement Health and

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Education Act, that actually made dietarysupplements a separate regulatory category of food,
so the FDA cannot arbitrarily ban orclassify a supplement as a drug. Now,
in terms of what the I thinkthe misconception is kind of comparing a

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supplement to a pharmaceutical a drug,And how I like to differentiate it is
that if something is found in natureand it's not chemically altered and therefore not
patentable, and it's classified as asupplement, we don't have to have those

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rigorous tests that the pharmaceuticals have tohave before it reaches the market. So
the supplement ingredients do not need ordon't require FDA approval before they reach the
shelves. Now, for the drugside of things, because these are man

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made, chemically altered molecules, thereneeds to be rigorous, very expensive testing
done prior to it being able tobe prescribed, So I think that's where
the confusion comes into play. Butin terms of the regulation piece, the
FDA monitors supplements very heavily after they'vealready reached the shelves. They're monitoring for

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safety adverse reporting, making sure thatthe product information is correct on the labels,
in the package inserts. The FDAcan take action if, like for
example, a supplement is misbranded oradulterated in any way, so it can
pull it off the shelves after thefact. There's also good manufacturing processes that

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are regulated by the government, sosupplement companies do need to abide by specific
laws for the creation, even thestoring and transport of the supplements. So
supplements actually are very heavily regulated bythe government, just not in the same
way as pharmaceuticals, which is Ithink where the confusion comes into place.

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Yes, And so it's so interestingtoo, is that let's just take cannabis.
From minute you got to a cannabisstore and they'll ask you what's your
dosage, and they will do alot of things to find out the right
dosage for you. If you gointo CBS, right aid or even life
extension and you buy something, let'ssay online. A lot of these companies
are online. They're on Amazon.You can go buy these all on amazons.

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Nobody asks you any questions. Youhave a prescribed amount on the bottle,
and you make your own choice asto what you're gonna buy. And
you really are as you say onyour own. So what is happening,
and I can't emphasize this more,is that there's testing going on. I've

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talked about this in the other segment. They're blood tests, they're a variety
of saliva tests now where you canbegin to find where your deficiencies are.
They call this precision medicine. AndI'm a little upset, I have to
tell you, because I travel allover the world. I was at one
hundred and third Tree, which I'mpretty proud of, and one of them

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is Thailand, and I can goto Bangkok and I can go into a
hospital and get all of this donefor me for pennies. But here in
the United States, I have tobe, as doctor Pavi says, on
my own, or go to afancy clinic in la or on Rodeo Drive
or in New York City and spendfive thousand dollars with an anti aging doctor,

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and it's not fair, it's notright when we come back when I
want to talk to you about doctorpavy is nad other supplements that are hot
right now that are being looked at, and what your take is, and
in keeping with my idea that weshould all have equity in our longevity,

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how you think we should assess makeour own assessment as to what some of
these rather expensive neutraceuticals might or mightnot do for us. It's a tough
question, I know, and Ithank you for so much for thinking about
with us. We'll be right back, don't you guys go anywhere all man.
But that doesn't bother me, noteven because I am happy and I'm

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inappropriate for my AGDA. You maythink that I'm all of it. That
doesn't bother me, not even becauseI am happy and I'm inappropriate. Oh

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my hello, Hello, Hello,This is Adrian Bergen. This is Generation
Bill, the Fountain of Truth,the Fountain of truth about aging. Now
you've been listening to doctor of anAipavian. She's the education director and spokesperson
for Life Extension. She's a naturalpath and I wanted to shed light to

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you guys, on both the conflictsthat are in this field of nutraceuticals.
What should we take and what shouldit cost, should it be covered,
etc. But I know that,even though you've been listening for so long,
you're still saying what should I take? I know that, and we
will certainly have a show with regardto that. But to give me a

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little taste, there are two thingsthat are on everybody's mind. One was
COVID and the issue of how dowe boost our immune system. The other
is on the mind of the peoplein the field of aging, and that
is with regard to ourselves, howdo we strengthen and even clean ourselves because

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we know that we die because ourselvesdie. So these are the two hot
two of the many hot tickets inthe world of nutraceutical and in fact in
the world of aging and gerosides.So let's start, doctor Pavy. Let's
start with the issue of the immunesystem. That was a big wake up
call with COVID thousands and thous hundredsof thousands of deaths older adults, most

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and mostly because of a failure ofthe immune system. We didn't know we
were in such bad shape. Butthere's a lot of thinking in the neutral
stutical world. About this what's hottoday, and I'm going to put it
that way because it's it's in thenews. Oh yeah. So actually,
in terms of immune support, thereare quite a few different, um,

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you know, nutritional ways of makingsure that our immune system is primed,
especially as we age now. UM. I just also wanted to make mention
that, um although I like toemphasize how we really need to be proactive

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in our health, I did wantto make mention that there are doctors out
there who can be of some assistance. Like, for example, i have
five years of graduate work under mybelt and I've been in the industry for
almost ten now, so I havea lot of I mean really, I've
dedicated my life to learning about nutrition, and most of us really don't have

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that kind of time to do thaton their own. So I would highly
encourage people, especially when they're lookingto support their immune system in a nutritional
way, maybe looking for like afunctional medicine doctor, a naturopathic doctor,
maybe consulting with their doctor of chiropractic. There are some really great people out

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there who can help kind of navigatethis very complex world. But in terms
of one of the mechanisms that weneed to be aware of when we're looking
at supporting our immune system, especiallyin the realm of things that are new
in the environment. We have agrouping of immune cells called T cells or

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naive T cells. These are theblank slate cells that are ready to be
programmed when something new comes into theenvironment, so then they can start making
those specific antibodies. So one ofthe things that happens as the age is
our naive T cell population starts todecline, which kind of makes sense because

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when we're born, we have themost amount of naive T cells that we're
going to have because we haven't yetbeen exposed to lots of things in the
environment. But as we keep beingexposed to things as we go chronologically through
time, those naive T cells startto get used up. So what we
want to do in terms of preparingour bodies for something new, we want

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to support those naive T cell populations, and one ingredient that can help to
do so is called cistanche tubulosa,which, especially if it's standardized to the
economic decide which are those phytonutrients thatconcentrate in that particular plant. The sistanche

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plant variety is also known as ginsing of the desert. So it is
in that gin sing type of categorydo have some good clinical data for helping
to support those naive tesall populations.So you see the idea here is that
gin sing and ginzing of the desert, they are natural substances and so when

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they're packaged, you generally do nothave to go through the FDA, except
for the what doctor Pavey explained tous with regard to nutraceutical safety in general.
But these are what I'm saying ishappening today. More and more is
being researched, and more and moreis being discovered, and less and less

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is being covered. I know,I understand I'm a one trick pony,
but I want people to be ableto know what to take, now,
how much to take, and knowhow they're going to pay for it.
So the immune system is now beingworked on through laboratories all over the world
as well as in the world ofnutraceuticals. And this is very interesting and
I personally will now take a lookat it. This is what I do.
I take a look at jinsing ofthe desert and I see how the

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formula is, whether you can getit in a t in a tincture,
in a gummy in a pill,and see what's best for me to take
a look at that for the immunesystem. The other is NA NA D
is you haven't heard of it,It's popping up everywhere. Explain what it
stands for and why it's such aninteresting thing today and how you're offering it

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through life extension. What life extensionstake is on this NAD issue. Absolutely.
In fact, I think it's oneof the hottest molecules in anti aging
and longevity research right now. Anyd stance for nikochinimite add any dynam gleotide,

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so why so, Really, whatthis molecule does is it drives chemical
reactions through redox reactions. So it'sabout the transfer of electrons. Now,
I know that it's getting a littlebit chemical, but I might encourage somebody
if you're at your local library andyou're going through the medical textbook section,

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pull out a biochemistry textbook and justkind of flip through each of the pages.
Typically you're going to see, youknow, this one molecule with an
arrow turns into this molecule, andthen there's a rounded arrow at the bottoms
with another molecule that says it helpsa lot of times you're going to see

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that help or molecules being NAD.So I have not yet heard how many
chemical reactions in the body that NADis involved in. I haven't yet heard
a number. But really what itcomes down to in terms of why we
care, it's because an idea isinvolved in every single energy process in the

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body. So even if it's glycolysisthat we're not using oxygen, or if
we're using oxygen to make energy throughthe mitochondria, it doesn't matter. An
idea is involved. Another way Ilike to describe it is it doesn't matter
what you eat, whether it's youknow, if you're on a keto diet
and you're eating like a high fatdiet, or you're doing an appkin diet

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that you're eating a lot of protein, or you're just eating like a Mediterranean
diet where you're consuming from carbohydrates.It doesn't matter. You need an AD
to turn any of that into energy. And what is so interesting there too,
is because this is a commercial idea, you could even take that in

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creams. You could take it increams for your cell a light for this
and that as well as internally aswell as in powders. So there's a
lot of different ways to add thatto your body. And this seems to
be, as I said to doctorPaby at the break the prettiest girl at
the party, everybody's looking at andeverybody's looking what to take. But what
I hear doctor Pavey from gerroscientists ispeople are not taking enough dosage, that

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the dosages are under what would beeffective, and so they're spending a lot
of money and under dosing. DoesLife Extension have a take on proper dosage
or how to know how much totake? Oh, we sure do.
So here's one of the things ifwe're talking about oral consumption to booster any

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D levels, if we consume anidea itself, it will degrade rapidly in
the stomach acid, So it's notthe best form to take if we're trying
to boost up our blood level.So there are several precursors to making any
D that we have research studies showingthat they in fact do boost up an

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AD blood levels. The one precursorthat Life Extension is most excited about is
nicotinamide ribicide. Another precursor out thereis NMN or nicotinamide mononucleotide. That one
is also a precursor that's available UMfor purchase and for oral consumption. Both

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are great. Uh, there's morehuman clinical studies right now on nicotinamide ribicide,
which is why life Extension is UMa fan of this particular precursor.
However, you know, as researchevolves, we may um make changes to
our formulations, but this cur Interms of current dosing, there was this

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really great study published in twenty nineteenh that we're looking at three different doses
one hundred milligram, three hundred milligrams, and a thousand milligrams of nicotinamide rib
side. So the participants took thosedoses orally every day for two weeks and
then had their blood levels of NADtested and what they found was the one

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hundred milligram group of the nicotinamide ribside there NAD levels rose twenty two percent
from baseline, the three hundred milligramgroup rose fifty one percent from baseline,
and the thousand milligram group rose onehundred and forty two percent from baseline.
So really what this tells us isthat one hundred milligrams does work, but

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it's going to build up the levelsa little bit more slowly than like,
for example, the three hundred milligramgroup or a thousand milligram group. So
one of the things that we've beentalking about, we have to wrap this
up, and perhaps you would bewilling to come on again and talk specifically
about synalytics and sell health. Isthis you're number one, your new Christian

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and exercise the things that you cando yourself help your immune system, your
cell health, your energy, andyour disease prevention, including many people feel
Alzheimer's prevention. Second level of allof this, of course, is your
vitamins. If you have a vitamindeficiency, your doctor will help you with

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that and give you the tests.Third, the nutraceuticals, the new things
that are being looked at. They'renot so new, but they are in
nature, many of them tested overand over again, all of them,
most all of them on private pay. And so what I'm asking you to
do is pay attention. You know, doctor Pavy and money. Warren Buffett

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is like the god of money,right the progressed, the best investor in
the whole world. And I hadan opportunity as a journalist to ask him
how he does so well how comehe knows all and he only says three.
This is what he said. Ipay attention. That was his whole
mantra. I pay attention, andI say the same at bad health.

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Pay attention to yourself. Pay attentionwhat's out there. Let this show be
a repository of information for you.So thank you so much, and doctor
payby tell us again it's life extensiondot com. Am I right about that,
ain't you, sir? Hard Great? Yeah, so I will say
to all of you, get outtheir kids and make it happen.