KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa (Tue, 19 Aug, 2025)

KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa on Tue, 19 Aug, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Am refers to more than just the time of day,
stuff off at exhausting amster wheel and into balance.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Living with Doctor Marissa from Miss Joy. Doctor Marisa, also
known as the Asian Oprah. Her mission to be a
beneficial presence on the planet, her purpose to be your
personal advocate, to live, lap love, learn, her life motto,
don't die wondering, Take back your life with Doctor Maurissa Pey.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
And welcome. You're tuning to take my advice, I'm not
using it. Get balanced with Doctor Marissa, The Morning Show.
You're on CASEYAA NBC News, CNBC News and NBC Sports
Radio station AM ten fifty FM one oh six point
five and streaming everywhere. I heart Radio, Spotify, iTunes, Tune

(00:57):
in Audible, Amazon Music, Do You Live page is a streaker,
speaker and war why so many places. I want to
maximize my splatter zone for more hope and happiness. So
there's no gossip, no scandal and nokay where it's no
Kardashian talk here, no politics, no religion. I don't want

(01:18):
to fight. You can get that everywhere else. The headlines
are all negative these days, so I'm balancing out all
the headlines with some heartlines and how to feel good
about yourself and everything that's going on around you. That's
why we do not talk about anything that's happening in
the news. If that's what you're looking for, you got
plenty other places to go to get that. But everyone

(01:40):
knows for the last six hundred and ninety three and
secutive weeks that this is the place to come for
more hope and happiness. I am doctor Marissa, your host,
your advocate for more happiness, and you know me as
the Asian Oprah. I was actually introduced to Oprah as
the Asian Oprah and that was a wonderful day and

(02:03):
I'm really grateful for her contribution of bringing things that
matter to the mainstream platform. So that's what we're doing.
And if you noticed I have someone in studio today,
it is someone. It's my hashtag Tuesday Talent Day. And

(02:26):
so I like to bring people on who are not
just doing what they do but also providing some support
for others. So you're finally ready to follow your dreams
and quit working for someone else's dream and making music
makes your heart sing? But are you too old to
start hitting the high notes? After believing she had missed

(02:49):
her chance. Entrepreneur musician Laureline Ladd launched her music career
in her forties, releasing her debut album and in the process,
uncovering a widespread truth that many women over forty feel
invisible in the music industry. This inspired her to found
Wavemakers Women in Music forty plus, a first of its

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kind for profit initiative that empowers women artists over forty
and redefines the stage of life as a strength, not
a setback. Before music, she built and sold a successful,
multimillion dollar healthcare business. Now she's channeling that expertise to
support and amplify women through Wavemakers by creating an ecosystem

(03:37):
where women musicians over forty can thrive through community underwriting,
business partnerships, professional development, and more. Please welcome to my studio,
Laurelin la.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Hello, so glad to be here with yees to have
you for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
And we start every show and I don't tell my
guests this until like right before, so that she can
be spontaneous with this. It's breakfast with my guest or
my co host, depends on when you're coming on the show.
Every weekday morning today Tuesday is usually Tuesday. Talent and
my guest, and I will be taking a bite of

(04:26):
my gratitude sandwich. What is that top of the butt?
No calories, by the way. Top of the bun is gratitude,
things that you're grateful for that are outside of yourself,
and bottom of the butt is things that you're grateful
for inside of yourself, otherwise known as appreciation. So let's
get started. I am grateful for continuing over thirteen years now.

(04:51):
They said this show wouldn't last more than a year
because I don't talk about the headlines. I take that
little positive story at the end of the news and
make it into a whole show. And I am grateful
that y'all are still here, still supporting, still watching and listening,
and that my free subscribe my YouTube TV channel now

(05:13):
has three point ninety eight million impressions and couldn't have
done that without you. So I'm grateful for that. What
are you grateful for?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
So many things?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Certainly I really am grateful for the opportunity to be
working with so many amazing women. Some of that comes
from having the luck to have attracted the right women
to help me launch this organization.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I am marvel all the time at.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Their sort of their the great ideas and their willingness
to be innovators and push against the tide as we
are wave makers, you know, that's what we're going.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
To do in the music business.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
That I found so many women that have jumped on
this move with me, and because it certainly is I,
you know, I need community to get this done. We
didn't arrive here by accident, so it's going to take
more of us to make change. And I appreciate them
being alongside me every time I have just these little
clarity of gratitude, like so glad I'm not alone.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yay. Now I'm going to go to the bottom of
the button, which is it's weightlifting for self love, self appreciation,
self soothing, something that we're not taught. We have well
meaning parents, sometimes more me than well, who say you're

(06:38):
not all that you know, don't doot your own horn,
And as a result, a lot of us are perfectionists,
and we are really hard on ourselves. We're our own
worst enemy. Well you get ninety nine compliments of one criticism,
we focus on that criticism and truly it is not

(06:59):
good for us. So the point of the bottom of
the butt is to model for you what to do
before you go to bed tonight. Instead of thinking about
all the things we didn't finish, all the things we
did wrong, we instead or all the people that done
us wrong. Instead, we highlight things that we like about ourself.

(07:21):
So I'll start. I like my ability to cut myself
some slack, so I'm not as hard on myself as
I used to be. And I can actually accept a
compliment and not you know, say thank you and then

(07:42):
turn around and go, well, you know, don't know me
that well yet, but I can actually receive the love.
And I like that about myself. Now, what do you
like about yourself?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Well, I like that you said, you know, there's a
sort of a shift in perspective and a little more kindness.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I'm going to tag onto that for a second. So
I was in the.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Studio working on my current album and some folks came
into the studio that I didn't know. They were there
talking to somebody else, and so they were listening along.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
And you know, the studio process.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Is iterative, iterative meaning there's lots of edits, and so
what was playing while they were listening was a rough
vocal that I did. Because it's really about the rhythm
players doing their things.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So there's a rough vocal. And these people came.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
In and I sat there and I was just about
to say something which was, oh, oh, you know, this
is a rough vocal.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
So and I started to explain. I didn't owe them
any explanation. That's my work.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
They stepped into my process and so for a minute,
the old me would have been like, let me qualify
all this for you so that in case you hear
something you don't like, you know, nonsense. But for me
it was a moment of personal growth to be and
I'm not. I wasn't unkind or rude. I was welcoming
to them. But I didn't need to explain myself because
it is my process what was happening in this studio,

(09:00):
and it was lovely. And so I was grateful in
that moment to see, even though the feeling came up
ooh that I said, I'm gonna sit on that, there's
nothing for me to do or say, just sit there.
That's I need more moments of that because that tells
me that I am doing right by myself. I'm also

(09:20):
in a better position to do right by the women
I care about in this industry. It's sort of deprogram
a little bit of less than let me explain. And
you know, truly, I'm often in situations like that, I'm
the only woman in the room that is absolutely talk
to many women in music.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
They'll tell you it.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
You know, it's dudes, and they're good people, don't get
me wrong, but there is just some dynamics that we
kind of get caught in and you got to sort
of slow it down so you can kind of call
it out, stop it and retrain your brain.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
At least that's what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Awesome, I'm putting a story together right now. I'm not
trying to be rude and I ah, but try to
multi multi multitask. But yes, and and good on you. Uh.
That gene also seems to be more prevalent in women
than men. I'm not saying all women or all men,

(10:16):
but it is. You know, your compliment a woman, nice hair,
Oh I didn't wash it, nice earrings, Oh I got
a dollar tree. You know, it's always that downplay, you know, right,
And then men on we always think we're fatter, not
as smart, and uh, not as talented as we are.

(10:38):
And men, on the other hand, not all men, but
a lot of men think they are better looking, more buff,
and have more hair than they actually do. So I
tell people to have a guide day, not to bash
the guy, to you know, actually learn from that. I
think that, uh, that's a good thing to learn about.

(10:59):
So good on you and that automatic. You know, Oh
what are they thinking? And they got to be thinking
negative before positive. Yeah, we got to stop that. So
good on you with that. And that is it for breakfast.
I hope that you continue this good life habit, this

(11:20):
hashtag discipline, with or without me. I'm here every weekday morning,
live at nine Pacific time. So even if you can't
listen to the whole show, start your day in the
most positive way. Doctor Wyane Dyer, who's on the other side,
you know, said you'll have a happy life if you
have five gratitudes in the morning. I'm a little bit

(11:42):
of an overachiever, so I say eight, except when we're
on the show, we want more time for the guests.
But yeah, just join me every weekday morning for this
practice twenty one days, twenty eight days, or thirty days,
whatever your bs your belief system about a good habit
is that will happen if you continue having breakfast with me.

(12:05):
Thanks for joining us for breakfast and now for the
topic of the day. It says, everything is awesome. So
I have not an answering machine. I have a questioning machine.

(12:29):
So when you call me, I say, who are you
and what do you want? So to my guest, I'm
asking that question, who are you and what do you want?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, nothing like a small question, doctor Rissa, Who am?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I go bigger? Don't cap show? That's right?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Well, I mean certainly you share with the guests that yeah,
I'm a musician.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
And that I founded this organization.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Uh, I can tell you answer that question. It was
a while for me to be able to order up
my answers because I, as many women who have you know,
are beyond forty, have had a chance to sort of
reinvent myself. You go through different careers, and early on
in this process, I was more than happy to say

(13:20):
I'm a businesswoman. You know, it's very happy with the spreadsheet.
Life is excel, Excel is life, you know that sort
of thing. And I loved a good p and L.
But at that point came where I was wanting more
and then moved into the music and creative space, and
when I would introduce myself into places, you know, they oh,
what do you do?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I would always say, oh, I'm a businesswoman. I founded this,
I did that, and then I would sort of tag
in that I was a musician, and I, you know,
sort of like an apology, you know, oh when I
do this thing on the side. And it took me
many years to realize that I needed only I was
going to be the one that said, we're going to
re order up this little detail. And so when I

(14:01):
released the second album, I said this is I thought
that somebody would come along and christen me, like crown me.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
And say, okay, now you may say you are a musician.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
And what I realized was that it was going to
be me that was going to say that is up
to me.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
And so there was a magic moment where people like,
what do you do? I'm a musician.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
I also have a great background in business, and I've
worked in nonprofits and I was actually a social worker
when I started my entire career. But I lead with
the fact that I am a creative and a musician
and an artist.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
And you know what, the world kept spinning.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Nothing cataclysmic happened, other than the fact that that was
a little bit more of me getting out of my
own way, and so I proudly claim that I am
this artist that has a few other superpowers on the side.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I thought that sort of my brain can hop.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Between the creative to the linear, and I thought, you know,
I must be adhd or I'm you know, a little
scattered in truth. I like that and my brain works
well that way, and I do think it's some of
what my gifts are here and why it enables me
to do exactly what I'm doing now.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I don't minimize that anymore. As to what I
want before you get I'm gonna give you a little more.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, no, no, I usually don't. I let you finish the
second part of the question, but I wanted to highlight
a couple of things. One is, we grow up with
this stupid saying jack of all trades, master of none,
and I think that is one of the worst limiting,

(15:41):
life limiting sayings in the world, which I'm guessing sort
of fed into your hesitancy to identify as more that
you're a multi hyphen it. I am so grateful that
there is this new acceptable good term. Someone called me
this like literally two months ago, and I'm like, is

(16:02):
that a good thing or not a good thing, right,
but it's a good thing. And the BS belief system
that you can only do one thing and be good
at it is bullshit, taki, and it keeps people in
jobs that they don't like, right. And to comment on

(16:23):
your you thought you were gonna get christened or whatever,
It's like, if you can't approve of yourself, how the
fork do you expect anybody else to approve of you?
So I've been doing a course called be the Best
that you Can be and broadcast it because it's one

(16:44):
thing to be talented, as you know, right in any genre,
it's a whole nother talent. You can hire people to
do it. But if you can't step up and say
and be proud of all the things that you do,
it's going to be a really tough hill, right to

(17:04):
think that you can hire people to do that. Nobody
knows you better than you, right and out of it
and being exactly exactly and put on you well.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
And part of I think my reluctance was the sense
that you know, in the music business now we love
a precocious talent, right, like, oh, she's twelve on america'scott
talent she's you know, belting Billy Holiday.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
There will always be.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
And I say this to women a lot, there's always
people who will be have established this younger than you,
better than you, always, always, always always.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I mean, it's given.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
So you can't wait for the moment at which you
sort of crust out above everybody else and then it's
okay to say that you are you are what you're doing.
And I had that perfectionistic tendency and that is part
of what was holding me back on that front. There's
a saying that it's Bill Withers, who is a musician,
who said nobody gets to wonderful without passing through all right.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
And a lot of this process is about change.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Yeah, is enjoying that when you're at the all right
phase and because there's always room to grow. If you're
interested and curious about yourself, you're going to keep growing.
I wish that for every woman I talk to is
to keep figuring, developing. Right, you still have potential at
any point. So that was part and carsle of you
know of what some of the holdback, but I truly

(18:25):
had to step into that on my of my own volition.
I'll jump to what I want because I think that's
thank you.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
For asking that.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
In often when we're talking to artists that are we're
trying to work with and develop, it's such a central
question and sometimes people really struggle with that. It's always
very telling, and I think it's a good question to
sit with on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Maybe every morning would be a great way.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
To do that.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
As far as as being this founder of this organization,
I really want to see some significant changes inside the
music industry for women over forty. I I want to
normalize creativity and performance at any age. So that's so
much so that if somebody is, you know, twenty two
and they're in a corporate career, they're like, I'm going

(19:11):
to do this now, and then if I want to
pursue music when I'm fifty, they can.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
See a pathway there. Right. We have to see it
to know that we can do it.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
So I feel like if we solve a lot of
these issues that are confronting women forty plus and music now,
we're actually solving it down downstream for younger women. And listen,
if there's a woman who hears my voice and today
and is like, you know, I always wanted to do
that then and if you know this to be true
about yourself, do not wait. There is not You don't

(19:39):
get a refund at some point of the years that
you put off, put this off, and I encourage you
to be I would encourage her to begin, because that woman,
I want her to feel like, Yep, no problem, I
can do it. And there's somebody I can check in
with and ask questions and kind of all that.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
So that is what I want.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's great, normalized creativity and what was the other thing?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Performance at any age? This is so true because I mean,
somebody could sit it. I mean, there's nothing wrong if
you want to write music and sit at home and
sing I love that, do that or karaoke at home.
But to be out on stage is an open act
of defiance and resistance to the idea that we are
supposed to disappear, become invisible, whatever that nonsense is. You know,

(20:30):
it's a line in the sand. I'm showing up and
I showed myself.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, we're not meant to go quietly into the night,
for sure. For sure, especially I just had a birthday.
I'm a Leo and five planets out of six, so
we definitely live that one out.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
My birthday's Friday, so we're just a.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Couple of leos.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, the leos are in the house. That's fantastic, of course.
And yes, I resonate with everything you're saying. And I
was at a fork in the road. It's funny that
you just happened to be dished up to me as

(21:17):
a guest because I also am a musician, singer, songwriter.
And before I got my PhD, my dad, well meaning,
flew down heard that I had gotten some interest from
Five Star Management, who managed Shadda. At the time, I

(21:40):
was doing lounge lizarding right around la and in Antwerp, Belgium,
at the piano bar, and he said, you're good, but
you're not that good. There's people who are singing and
their life depends on it, and you're not that. And
you've always wanted a PhD, and so you know, go

(22:04):
get it and if you want to sing, you can
sing later. So yeah, so, but I don't regret it
in the sense that, you know, I love the way
my life has unfolded and you know, really unexpected ways.
But I was supposed to be on world tour the
rest of the year Africa. I was supposed to be

(22:26):
in Africa right now, Ireland, Hawaii, Shanghai and Taiwan for
the rest of the year on book speaking tour, and
I got two blood clots they found grounded me for
the rest of the year. Actually for one full year.
I'm not allowed to fly. And I'm like, Okay, what now,
brown cow right? I uh so maybe it's music that

(22:52):
comes back into my life.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I hope so.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
I you know, it's when when it was a central
focus like it was for you. And again, we've worked
with so many women that had careers when they were
younger and then have kind of continued on or they
set it down and then picking it up again and
wanting to do that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
It's it's really about the driving force in them and
what that experience meant and then reclaiming it so much
I think at this phase of life is about reclaiming
the pieces that might have gotten set down along the
along the way. And hey, we all make choices. But
you know, I thought, that's saying if I knew then

(23:32):
what I know now, right, That's saying.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
We say all the time. But I'm like, but you
do you do know? You know it?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Now?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
So go go do it. You know, you don't.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
You can't turn the clock back, but you know so
much more so coming at a music career now with
everything that you've learned, which by the way, is tremendous,
Think how differently you would come at the material, at
being on stage, at all of it. I mean, you're
this whole amazing woman. I know you were back then,
but I mean, look at all that you've done.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I would imagine it would.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Impact how you interpreted the songs. I mean to me,
it would be a revelation.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I think, yes, no, you're absolutely right. And I think
the fact that I I frame it as as you like,
I'll use it on you. Your expertise in bringing a
business to a point of selling it and making money

(24:29):
and doing well that was not well I did that,
and I you know, I've but my passion is singing,
and I've always just wanted to sing. And it's just
sort of you know, like oh, but you know, it's
like not acknowledging. I'm not saying you, but a lot
of women will say, I, yeah, I do this well,

(24:50):
but I really don't like doing it blah blah blahlah,
and they'll throw that baby out with the bathwater. And
I'll say to them, no, everything that that's a chapter,
an important chapter, or just like you're saying to me,
of what was accomplished, that is part of your whole life.
So so celebrate what you did, and congratulations on that

(25:11):
company that you I mean, I'm guessing you started, you know,
learning on your own how to do that and and
and it was a big skill. And and good on you,
a woman in a man's world for business, right, you
were best full And now this is just the next chapter.

(25:32):
It's not that you did anything wrong or you would it,
should have, could have. I don't no regrets is my
one of my life mottos, and don't die wondering is
the future.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Which I think it's that that to me is you know,
the last thing I would want to do is exit
this planet not having written all the songs I was
supposed to write and sung all the songs I was
supposed to sing. So you know, it's not there to
sort of panic you, oh my god, I've got to go,
go go, but more as just a baseline of of
motivation to the thing that you know makes you happy.

(26:03):
So often I'm saying to these women, I'm not selling
you something like if music for you is life giving, okay,
and that you feel that lining up inside of you,
do not ignore that that's at your peril. And it
could be anything. I mean, if it's throwing pots, if
it's planting tomatoes. I am agnostic to the medium or

(26:25):
the thing that you know makes you happy. But what
I'm not agnostic about is the idea that you can
put that off, that you don't deserve it, that you
have to sort of perfect it all before.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You get started.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Women are notorious for planning themselves into paralysis.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
That part I very much feel strongly about.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
And it's the woman that would have been like me
at thirty seven thirty eight, who's like, I'm just now
going to start singing and performing music. I thought my
friends would be like, oh and today, so today she's
a singer, and then tomorrow she's an astronaut.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
And then maybe a ballerina.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
That was that sort of a hardcore critic, you know,
and who the heck cares? Maybe I should have gone
on to the astronaut. And I was a dancer as
a kid, so I could have gone back to ballerina.
I was way too worried about everybody else yeah, and
they if I was puzzling to them, if they were
curious about that, I never thought, Hey, part of the

(27:24):
reason why this is uncomfortable for people is because my
actions are making them a little uncomfortable, not about what
I'm doing, but about what it's put a pushing a
button inside of them.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
And I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Now I'm gonna I'm gonna make you feel all uncomfortable
because I'm standing on stage and I'm singing, and I'm
pushing this and doing things that people reassociate with being
twenty two or nineteen or you know, pick a number
for the music industry, it gets awfully low.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, right, I have a little model called the perfectionistic slide.
So perfectionism, you won't do anything unless you know it's perfect.
But you can't control everything, so you're screwed. And then
if you can't get a perfect you go into procrastination. Right.
I've always wanted to be a procrastinator, but I never

(28:15):
got around to it. And then then if you keep going,
it's paralysis. And then you don't get out of bed, right,
you don't open your mail, and so you don't want
to get on that slide. And I had a past guest,
doctor Terry Cole Whitaker, who wrote a best selling book
called What You Think of Me Is None of My business?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Business?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, and listen, you know, especially and I talked to
our performers and they're like, but people can see.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
People can see that I'm older.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, they can and you you cannot.
I cannot help you sort of deprogram all of sort
of the stuff that we get told as women, that
all our value is tied up in how we look
and this sort of idea around kundity.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I don't know, like it's all tied to if we
can procreate whatever.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
So all you can do, I tell them, is like
it's like a volume knob, So if we can turn
it down a couple of notches, that's sometimes that's the
success that we're going to claim it is, because to
totally shut it off, I think is too big a bite,
and it's something you have to work at gradually. But
I you know, it's hard. It hits us all the time,

(29:25):
all the time, all the time, all the time. And
I tell them, and I tell myself, I signed no
contract to anyone that said I was always going to
look like I was twenty three.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
I didn't, so I am.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I remind myself, I have no legal obligation to that.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
That's cute, that's cute. It is, It truly is too.
I think again, women a little tough love here. We
tend to go to MSU University a lot more than
men do, and that stands for making shitaki up right.
So even if the criticism isn't there, we make up

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this story that it is there. And it's a balance. Yes,
there are some realities, but then they're not as bad
as we think they are. And if we think they're bad,
then you know, we're shooting ourselves in the foot or
in the voice, in the vocal cords, whatever it is.
So it's that balance. That's why I'm always, you know,

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We're gonna pull up the website in a bit to
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please welcome back to my studio. She is a musician.
If you were on my Instagram, Doc Balance or doctor
Marsa everywhere else, you heard the song behind the promo

(34:39):
poster that was hers. And she has a whole discography
that you can find and support and enjoy of hers.
Just her name's right here. She's really easy to find.
And she also has created this organization that is, you know,

(35:00):
above and beyond what she's doing. And I like people
who do that, who take their limelight and you know,
shine it on areas of temporary darkness, is what I
call it. So the bias against women over forty who
are starting their music careers or coming back to their

(35:23):
music careers is the organization Welcome back, ler Lane.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
So I'm gonna pull up the website so you can
walk me through it. Sure, and so I'm sure, like
I'm already interested. If this is something that I sounds
like that I should join, Although I don't like shitting
on myself, but it might be a good place to
go now that might have dim all my hands to

(35:57):
get back into music.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
It is, and it's very easy to become a member
of Wavemakers. You just need to be forty plus a
woman and a less same and.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
That they and they can easy to join.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
We ask them to complete a survey. Part of what
we're asking for is for them to describe their experience.
We want to make sure the things that we're offering
through the organization meet the needs of women in music
today and what they're hoping for. So it's easy. You
fell out the app, the survey, and then you're a
member we have. When I started this organization, I felt like,

(36:37):
you know, if it was a matter of women getting
together online or even in person to talk about sort
of the difficulties of being in this industry, I support
that because people need context and community. But I would
not have gone as far as I have with it
if I wasn't in a position to provide economic opportunity
because sort of what's in the music industry right now

(37:00):
for indie artists and certainly at any point, but certainly
over women over forty, it's kind of like it's the crumbs,
it's what's left behind, and economically for our career to
be sustainable, there has to be a better way, and
it wasn't really possible to go into the industry as
it stands and sort of tweak a few things and
you know, and find our way. I don't believe that's

(37:23):
the answer, and where we are right now is more
about creating some different pathways going outside of the existing system.
So you're seeing some of the things that we have offered.
We have some series of concert series that we've put
together in Austin, which is where the organization is based.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
But we also do playlists.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
But these playlists often will actually be paid playlists, which
I'm very proud of. We have done some soundscaping for conferences.
This will sound like something we've all seen. Like you've
gone to a conference and people walk on stage right,
and there's there's a song playing.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
It's your walk on music.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Right, and often those are canned songs, right, and who
Like I went to a woman's conference and who they played?

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Who rules the world?

Speaker 7 (38:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Beyonce? She's got it up there.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
The problem is is if you try to take that
video footage of you walking on stage and put that
out on the internet, you have not cleared that license
and that footage will be taken down.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
So what we did is we used all.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Original walk on music for a big woman's conference in Austin,
and we were able to pay our artist to clear
the license, which means the artist got paid for her work.
The woman was able to then use that song and
that footage for a license of I think we had
it for a year and a half or something like that.
So again it's the economic opportunities, the playlists. There's live

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performances that we help our artists get get booked for.
Obviously you might have seen something on there that says
five for five on the website.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
We launched a grant series earlier this year.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
We awarded over thirty five thousand dollars in grants to
individual artists in the Austin Central Texas area and they
used that funding for what we call last mile on
a project. Right, So these most of these women had
an album or an EP that was being sort of
in process and they needed those funds to get it completed.
In in my true fashion, we tried to do five

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and we couldn't choose five because there were so many
great stories. We chose six, and then we did some
smaller grants of one thousand dollars, So we ended up
with about eleven women who received some funding. Yeah, yes,
right that the stories they submitted. Here's the six right
there that we chose. Their stories were incredible. I mean,

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for so many of these women, music was at the
center of their lives. It had gotten them through divorce
and job loss and all of these things, and it
stayed there. And these women already were thinking out of
the box. Two of them had albums that would also
have a documentary accompanying them. Another woman was going through

(40:04):
active treatment for breast cancer. It was they just had
incredible stories. And what we understand about these women is
that they have the talent is there. I guarantee you
that they already think of themselves kind of the way
we were talking a little multi hyphen it. They do
different things, that's not sort of one thing that they do.

(40:27):
But when we look at them, we're also looking at
how brands that respect this forty this woman female forty
plus demographic can.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Connect with these artists.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
That's where the beginning of change starts. So brands that
care about women we want to marry. Then we want
to be the matchmaker to that brand that goes, oh,
we love our forty plus female forty plus consumer. Who,
by the way, folks, we're the ones we make all
the purchasing decisions.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
In the United States.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
If you're a woman over forty, ask yourself, how many
times is it you that drops that item in the cart,
the physically or online.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
It's you. It's you, it's you.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
So we want to we want to bring brands into
focus that understand that demographic, that want to deepen that connection,
and they're going to utilize the beautiful work of these
experienced women in music to help is make it a
win win situation. And so that is is at the
core of what Wave Makers is doing, is changing the

(41:26):
music industry by working with the musicians, working with brands and.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Fans to see things differently.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Great. So, I just I don't know why my form failed,
but I was trying to actually sign up as we
did it. So we'll get told that, I well, well,
I'm sure, I'm sure we will. But uh yeah, that
that sounds really very doable, easy. And uh I was

(41:57):
going to ask you why you didn't make it a
non profit? Instead you made it a profit. But now
I understand I answered my own question. But for those
of you who aren't reading my mind, what went into that?
Why not a nonprofit? Right?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
And so I came from the nonprofit world. My husband
is a dermatologist. That was the We built a multi
site dermatology practice.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Is the business that was sold.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
But part of what we did is that we also
had a nonprofit which was to educate people and the
importance of skin cancer prevention. So I had worked in
the nonprofit world. You know, there is a vibe around artists,
this sort of starving artists scarcity model, and I felt like,
you know, musicians don't need the loose change at the

(42:45):
bottom of your purse. They need opportunity, economic opportunity. So
I stand on that and I hold to the core mission.
Here is about economic opportunity. It's about win win situation.
And the barrier here is not talent. The barrier here

(43:07):
is attention. And I feel like if with the right
team and the right strategy.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
That that this is about.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
This is about getting people paid opportunities to work and
have their work value in the right way. So if
I do my job, then there are other amazing organizations
out there on the on the nonprofit side, and I
love the work that they do. I am trying to
occupy a different place totally.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I love that. I love that you're you're taking it
from the starving artist frame and making it into changing
the access formula, right, I like that. I like that.

(43:54):
So are you allowed to say the names of some
of the artists who have really benefited from all of this.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
So we have worked with so many great ladies and
that our grant winners are on the website. Alison Tucker,
Leslie Silson, sisen Qui, Data Chantel, Denise who was in
La before she came to Austin, Astani Frizelle. She is
an amazing project. She's taken the music that her grandmother wrote.

(44:24):
Her grandmother was a conjunto singer in the nineteen sixties.
She re recorded this music that her grandmother wrote. She
just won the Independent Hollywood Independent Music Award, and she
too is creating a documentary following her grandmother's work and
just stunning.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
And when I say the talent is.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Beautiful, but then the creativity, the ideas, the storytelling, all
of that is so authentic and way I always say
it's more than a song, it's more than a show.
And these women absolutely, they absolutely show you that. So
yes of artists in Austin that have and actually because
of the when we do actually have an example here,

(45:06):
this lovely little it's an excellent coaster. But on the
back of it is a QR code and what this
is is a playlist and we accept submissions for these playlists.
Any woman in the world over forty can submit to
these playlists and we do a little PR bio about
that woman's song on the playlist.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
They're highlighted throughout the quarter. We do one a quarter,
and so we.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Want to give them some roadmaps on how to connect
with their audience and then some PR lifts so that
they can get.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
A little mileage out of it as well.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
So the opportunities for anybody in the world that wants
to submit to join.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
We will be looking.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
I mean, obviously we started in Austin, but we see
the potential for this to take us beyond our little
town because there's women all over the world that are
looking for this sort of support and to see themselves
represented and their work valued.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
So it's almost as if you are like a managing
group or a representation group. Could I say.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
We are.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
So there are some of the things that we do
where we're helping to fund the production of music, We're
helping to fund the promotion of music. Yes, we start
to we start to move towards what might sound like
a record label or a management company. Where we are
with this is that we are new. We are a
new thing, and so we're not going to fall neatly

(46:34):
into a category because we're creating something different. And I
got really comfortable with being able to say to people,
I know I'm going to change this industry. I don't
necessarily have all the answers as to how that's going
to happen. As a person who always wants to be
over prepared, overly prepared, that's a bit of a leap

(46:55):
for me to tell you I don't have all the
answers as to how this is going to work. But
I do know that I'm in the right place, doing
the right thing, and the brands and the artists that
show up are the ones that understand what we're trying
to achieve. So big things are happening. I don't have
all the answers yet.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well, if i'm if, I'm going to use myself as
a guinea pig on this one. The and the reality.
I always like to talk about reality and put the
moose on the table, which is my I was born
in Canada, so I don't say put talk about the
elephants in the room, I say, put the moose on
the tables. So so the moose says I'm an artist.

(47:37):
I'm ageless, but I am over that category. And normally
if I you know, I'm starting out, I'm on my own.
Uh I uh. And this is like jewelry makers, you know,
that's my passion. I want to make jewelers. Do I
sink in my four oh one k into you know,

(47:58):
I don't know what I'm doing. All I know is
I know how to make jewelry. So all I know
is how to write songs and sing to people getting
drunk at a piano bar. That's my experience. You know,
I sing on stage when I'm speaking whatever people say,
you know, put together. I've done some songs in studio

(48:19):
blah blah blah. And this to me is a place
where I actually will get some support without giving, like
my fore whatever, fifty thousand dollars to someone to promote,
market and create the music that I have in my head.

(48:43):
Is that about? I mean it is for a profit.
Like am I paying into this as well?

Speaker 5 (48:49):
The membership right now is free and where we're getting
our funding is from part me from brands, and so
we're leveraging the buys from the brands to help the
artists get resources they need. But there will be a
lot of education and available through the website, and we're
building a platform where artists can come and ask questions.
The place for that kind of support is not on
social media. You as an artist need a safe place

(49:11):
to come and ask a lot of questions and that
we can support you. And I really believe that that's
a safe place to ask for help. So that's what
facet that will be coming before the end of the year.
But yes, the idea that So I was at a
meeting in Austin and there were thirty five women there,
female musicians, and so we're talking to them and the

(49:33):
last thing they asked us for was could we please
just get an email list with everybody's contact information. Now,
I'm in a city of and I'm going to be
generous and call it because I'm going to say suburbs
a million people, which is overly generous to say. I
couldn't put thirty five dentists in a room and then
be like I don't know that guy over there, I
don't know that lady over there.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
But yet in.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Austin, I could have thirty five female musicians, and they
didn't know how to They didn't know how to get
a hold of each other. So there is a level
of isolation that just it just defies it really baffles me.
But they're cut off from one another, and so yeah,
it's hard. And so you can be getting help from
another peer, but you don't you don't get to talk

(50:15):
to her.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
And so I can understand that though if I put
the moose on the table, this one is the big one,
which is you don't want to share. If you think
that you know this is this is that next question
is you want everybody to say I say everybody should
write a book, I say everybody should do a podcast.
I say everybody should sing. But it's that you know,

(50:39):
the producer's ear. Okay, that's marketable, that's good. People are
gonna like this, and people are not gonna like that.
When you choose for playlists, when you choose for uh,
your your five and five, there still is that rejection.
Someone is not gonna make the cut. So so how

(51:01):
does one marry those two things?

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Right?

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Well, every one of the things that that music labels
absolutely are not interested in is developing an artist anymore.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
That's gone.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
So I hope that that's the place that wave makers occupies,
which is a place to come to be developed. So
even if you are not what we're looking for today,
because hey, not everybody is every right the same cup
of tea or at that same level, but there's an
opportunity to come here to find ways to develop as
an artist. Some of that is being seasoned. If you're

(51:37):
a person who's already been playing live all the time,
then you know, having you run around and play low
paying gigs in your town.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I had somebody say this the other day. You're just
moving equipment.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
That's all you're doing, is you're shuffling equipment around your city.
So we want to help you to capture anytime these
women are performing, they need to have that as much
as possible. Their video is recorded so that they have
content that they can put out there. Showing up to
play in a in a bar that unless you need
time in the saddle, and hey, I was a woman

(52:08):
that needed that.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I needed when I first started.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
I needed to be out playing on a stage because
I needed to build that muscle up. Working in the
studio is which is what I was doing. It was lovely,
but I needed that pressure of an audience there, And
so we all have different needs as an artist. So
we want to provide them what they need to develop
on up. Sometimes they need to understand the world of

(52:32):
social media better than they do. They also need to
understand who is their audience. I mean, if you are
a torch singer singing jazz standards or ballads or that's
your jam, then you're developing an audience of people that
can't get enough of that, and then you're going to
make beautiful, delicious things to give them.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
And so if that's you at a at the at
the coolest.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Jazz bar in town, singing your version of those beautiful
jaz standards, then.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
We want you doing that. We don't want you.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
In a bar that's expecting you to stand up with
an acoustic guitar and you know, and sing John Denver,
you know, I'm trying to think of a more relevant
folk singer. But like you have your brand, your thing,
we want you to get really good at your thing.
That's that's the answer, and so that you it's what
you want. That goes back to the question you asked,

(53:24):
what do you want? And for a lot of female artists,
they need to say, I want an audience that understands me,
that that sees themselves in my work. Then let's hone
that hone into that so that you're creating exactly what
your audience is looking for. I think I answered your question,
but I missed it.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
No, you absolutely did. And I'm asking some, you know,
not easy questions because you know, it is one of
those as a musician myself, and when people say, wow,
you know what a great voice, or are you a singer?
Or why aren't you singing? And all of that, you know,

(54:04):
my mind goes not to those you know who who
enjoy it, but to those who were very mean about
my inability to make it their cut right. And that's
that's tough, you know, it's one of those. The music industry,

(54:24):
the acting industry. I've been doing stand up now since November.
I'm very grateful that that's been very wonderfully you know,
easy releve, you know, considering I just started. I just
did my first headline, you know, in less than a year.
That's great. But music has that, you know, I love

(54:45):
it and I want you, But the voices in my
head about two individuals who really didn't value and so
when you're talking about what you guys do on my
heart singing. I know that this is one of those
ups universal power source deliveries to have you on and

(55:07):
I hope you enjoyed her because I did just for
where I am. I think this sho's my delivery. But
please go to if you're at all singing, want to sing,
have sung, want to get involved, and or you have
money that you want to invest in an organization that

(55:32):
will be supporting me, there's another way to you know,
if you don't want to donate to my nonprofit, you
can do this and support me because they're going to
be supporting me. But it's very easy. This is the
website here, there's lots of little links for you to

(55:53):
sign up. You've got events to go on, lots of
good things to support. So this is what I do
on my platform is share with you organizations that are
making a difference that are part of the solution and
not part of the problem. Final word from funeral.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Word final word.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
If you are a woman that wants to be singing,
I want you to sing, and I don't care if
it's in the car and you know wherever that is
that you bring that to the center of your life,
and it's there for a reason.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
It's not an accident. You're not crazy. If you think
you're supposed to be doing this, you're supposed to be
doing this.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
It's just something that's very hard to do alone, and
I don't endorse doing it alone.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
So find community. Join us.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
We will provide that context with you. And to join
us at this point means you're building something with us.
You're helping us build a better future for women period,
but certainly for women in the music industry, and I
accept help.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I have learned that's the way this gets done is
with the help of a lot of people. So brands,
fans and our artists please join us.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yay, thank you so much. This has been very fun.
I knew we would run out of time quickly. Uh,
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Whether it's relationships, sex, wellness, or spirituality, join Robert as

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