September 9, 2025 • 60 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The time of day, stuff, off that exhausting amster wheel
and into balance. Living with Doctor Marissa from Miss Joy.
The Doctor Marissa, also known as the Asian Oprah. Her
mission to be a beneficial presence on the planet, her
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purpose to be your personal advocate, to live, lap love,
learn her life motto, don't die wondering, Take back your
life with Doctor Maurissa Pey, and welcome your tune.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Didn't it take my advice? I'm not using it. Get
balance with Doctor Marissa in the morning show here on
CACAA NBC News Radio. One second, I think my mic
is a little bit funky. It's Monday, not really Monday.
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But hold on, I can you hear me? I have
a feeling I'm not being broadcasted. Correct, Yeah, you can
hear me. Well, awesome, let's see, all right?
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Where was i? NBC News Radio, uh, CNBC News and NBC.
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Sports radio station A M ten fifty FM one oh
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in Audible, Amazon Music, te Live, Rumble.
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Punchaser, streaker, spreaker and more. Why so many places?
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Well, I want to maximize my splatters one for more,
Hope and happiness.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So there's no gossip here, no scandal, Nokay words, no
Kardashian talk, no tea talk, no headlines at all, because
they are all negative and I want to balance out
all the negative out there with some positivity, not just
a you know, Pollyanna positivity, but with solutions to life's
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barriers are our own personal and collective happiness. So I
have topics and guests to that end, and certainly today
has no exception. Been looking forward to having my guests
that you're seeing on camera with me this morning. He's
the founder.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And director of Nutritional Oncology Research Institute NORI, which was
established in twoenty and eleven. Mark's background is in clinical
nutrition with a specific focus on cancer prevention and treatment.
He's the CEO of NORI. Fharm Sorry Nutrisceuticals manufacturers specialty
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nutritional supplements, and if you listened to the last Throwback
Thursday interview, Mark has developed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
More. We talked about an enzyme before.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I am not going to have your review all that,
but he's developed a single tablet that targets the Achilles
heel of cancer and oxidizes cancer cells to death. The
tablet is a cocktail of three natural compounds and best
of all, small scale clinical studies are demonstrating remarkable results.
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You know that when I do talk about anything like homelessness,
I bring someone on who has part solution to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That, like Doors of Change. Cancer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I've had Friend Dresser on with cancer Schmancer Education about prevention.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I had that show.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I've had Chris Wharf, who has been still cancer Freeze,
come on several times. So this is part of a
great series that we do not have to get beat
by cancer, but we can actually do something to beat
cancer ourselves. So please welcome back to the studio.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Mark Simon.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
For having me.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Absolutely, I'm so delighted that you reach responded.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I usually when I do the throwback.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Thursday, I go, I wonder what they're doing right now,
So I'm glad that you answered the call. Now, before
we get into all of the great information you're going
to give us, I have started this good life habit.
I don't know if you did it the last time
you're here. It is hashtag bliscipline top of the bun.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm sorry. We have breakfast with my guest.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Or with myself or my co host, and we take
a bite of my gratitude sandwich. So the top of
the bun is things that were grateful for outside of ourselves,
and then the bottom of the bun is things that
we're grateful for inside of ourselves, so that we when
we go to bed tonight, we're not thinking about, oh,
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I didn't get this done, or it's not good enough,
or who've done me wrong? But instead we're ready in
primed for being able to go to bed about.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know what, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
At blank or I am a caring person or whatever
that quality is, so that we'll get a good night's sleep.
So that's been the practice I've been doing on the
show now for a couple of years. I don't know
if you did it last time, but we'll just start
and it doesn't have to be long, but it has
to be specific. So top of the bunt, I'll start with,
I am grateful for this beautiful cup of coffee, my
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first cup of coffee in the morning, and the taste
of my coffee, and I get to be one with
my coffee. Those of you who know that I celebrate
the deliciousness of life. Here's the model.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Here we go. This is what you do every time
you eat or drink something.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Good that is being one with your deliciousness of life.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What are you grateful for? Mark?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh? I started the morning off with some fresh figs.
I love figs, one of my favorite fruits.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Great, great, Yeah, on Wednesdays, I go to a meeting
that has a big tree and I just picked.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I had fresh figs for the first time. It's funny
you should say that. And they're delicios.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Soul for sure, the perfect ideal food for humans.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Really. Okay, Okay, we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We could live on figs alone. Wow, we can live
on fruit alone?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, Yes, that that's a nice little commercial for for
what's about to ensue on the show. We Are What
We Eat, right, That is definitely one of the topics.
I am grateful that I get to have this incredible
view that I'll show you. I'm gonna put the story
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up uh to to encourage people to come now to
participate on this live show on my YouTube TV channel.
Please free subscribe, give me the finger, this one, not
the other one. And I'm grateful for the view that
you'll see in the story that I'm going to show you.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Of the ocean of abundance. What else. Are you grateful
for Mark.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just being able to wake up every morning, healthy, energetic,
and pursue my purpose?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I am grateful that I had a nice no labor
day yesterday where I purposely tried not to work. Not
an easy thing. I'm a recovering workaholic and have eight jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I went and I'm now adding to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The deliciousness of my life, the fragrance of life. I
did something I've never done before. I went to Home Goods.
Never been there before. I'm not really a domestic at all,
but I smelled about one hundred and eighty bottles of
hands soap and candles and it was lovely. It was
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a great experience, not realizing there was so it is
really beautiful to smell, you know, the combinations of all
the natural things in the world of vanilla and things
like that. So, yeah, that was really fun. I'm grateful
for that. All right, Let's go to the bottom of
the button, which is what do I like about myself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The reason why we do this is, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Meaning parents, sometimes more mean than wealth, say things like
you're not all that, don't toot your own born. In
Chinese and Japanese we have a saying the nail that
stands up as hammered down.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Not real incentive to pat yourself on the back.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But as a result of not doing that, we're constantly
looking to other people to see how we're doing and
approvals and literally we're walking around with antenna looking for
likes on social media. Literally, And it's a horrible way
to lift because one film they may like you one
day and then they don't like it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The next day.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Solid ground is weightlifting. What are you good at? What
do you like about yourself? And I'll start, I'll say
I like that I am able to process my feelings
and feel my feelings fully without killing people and knowing
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that once I feel them, I can work through that
onto the other side. So it's a skill and I'm
pretty good at it. So I appreciate that about myself.
What do you like about yourself?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I think the fact that I think I have most
things in balance pretty well. I started yoga like twenty
years ago, and that's all about balance for me, so
I was able to find and achieve that balance and
ordering of priorities. So balance and priorities.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Fabulous, Yeah, very important.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And then one more thing, one more thing.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, please, please, Usually people.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Don't like to perspective. Is important to have perspective from
like the universe, that level of perspective rather than the
little stuff perspective on a large scale, I like that
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of who we are, what we are, what we're meant
to do, what we're meant.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
To be awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, a year knows what a day doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah right, yeah, or will be revealed.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I have a little story that definitely practice is
that that I'll share a little bit later. But thank
you for joining me for breakfast. Mark that was good.
Sometimes my guests are a little bit but it did great.
Thanks for that. And I encourage all of you listening
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in right now an hour later to do this good
life practice, this hashtag discipline for twenty eight days consecutive days,
or thirty or twenty one, whatever you believe makes a
good habit. And you can join me every weekday morning
here to do that or do it on your own.
And you know I promised that if you do this
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good life habit, you will sandwich your day in the
most positive way. Thanks for joining us for breakfast. And
now for the topic of the day.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It says everything is awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And we're gonna talk about out cancer today, not about
the horribleness of cancer, but that cancer has an achilles heel.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Which is a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To describe what we're going to talk about. But before
we get into the nitty gritty, because we do have
a good forty five minutes, I want to find out
from you sort of did.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know when you were a kid you're going to
be doing this?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Sort of what sparked you to go into this field?
What sparked you to want to look at both nutrition
and cancer research, cancer treatment in prevention.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, in college I decided I wanted to be in
the field of science and research, and the field I
shows back then was neuroscience. Then I took a diversion
away and you know, created a career in something else,
but some are related. And then I got back into
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my interest in science when my wife was diagnosed with
breast cancer. That was in two thousand and four, and
I took a deep dive it's research looking at alternative
ways you know, of treating it rather than the conventional
way of surgery, radiation, chemotherapy, and I found some extraordinary
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things out. And I had already established my background in
clinical nutrition so had I had that, So I was
looking at everything from that perspective, you know, what can
we do with diet, what can we do with nutritional supplements?
So unfortunately she didn't make it, but I carried on
my research and started NORI, and I discovered a couple
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important things back then which I held onto and still
utilize in my work, And one of them is the
discovery of selenium as an anti cancer agent. It has
proven effects for cancer prevention and very very strong scientific evidence,
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you know, many many decades of evidence for treatment. You
using a common and nutritional supplement for treating cancer. You
just have to know how to dose it properly and
combine it with other things, and it's very very effective.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So before we go to Cilia, I kind of want
to give like the big picture and sort of the
history and some really important things that are understood and
not understood about cancer, because I think that is that
is really where we're at. Usually and personal eye talked
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about this as soon as you are diagnosed, right, and
when he was diagnosed, and when your wife was diagnosed,
And I'm sorry for your loss, but I know that
she's loving you powerfully from the other side. And supporting
you and all the research that you're doing, which is
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a beautiful way to you know, live out her legacy.
And before I forget, I'm going to give you the
Beneficial Presence on the Planet Award, which I give to
not all my guests, but I don't know if I
gave it to you last time. But those people who
take their experiences in life that are often painful and
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turn it into something that helps tremendously other people to
avoid or minimize their suffering.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So so here I am today, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So I just want to again, let's take that eighty
eight thousand foot I know you're excited about talking about
and I am too, but I want us to build
into it because it's so significant that right now, the
average person finding out that they have a diagnosis of cancer,
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still to this day in traditional Western medicine, and they say,
is there anything I should do differently with in terms
of diet? Okay that the answer more often than not
is no.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, you need chemo or you need radiation, you
need surgery, you need this and diet.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It If it is that all talked about, it's kind
of down at the bottom of the list is that Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So that's the state of things today, trouble saying okay.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I just wanted to make sure because that's what it
was like when Chris got diagnosed, when my friends have
been diagnosed, and I didn't know if that was still
sort of the same. So I'm guessing that it is
still sort of the same. Okay, Yes, And so then
the thing that that was so exciting and I actually
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found you, guys.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I was introduced to both of you and doctor Hoffman through.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
My my client slash friend Teresa, who who said, oh,
you have to meet you have to have them on
the show.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So that is how I first met you.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And the sad part is my I got a text
from her husband and she has passed and I shared
that with you over the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And she will be I get to sing amazing Grace on.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Friday when people put of flowers out for her, and
I get to celebrate her life then. But that is
what triggered me doing throwback Thursday and then asking you
to come on now when you came on before the
exciting news them was on the clinical side, is that
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the research was beginning to understand cancer better than before.
And I'll say that before cancer was just bad, you know,
it was a bad thing to have. It was a
bad and really have no defense, right except for either
cut it out or radiate it, right to kill it
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and then all the side effects may also kill you
or hurt you or you know, all that. There was
nothing else. There was no other solution to killing cancer
other than radiation or surgery. For you know, the chemo.
I don't know if it's classified as well. It's a toxic, right,
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You're killing the kid yourself using poison, right, right, So
then some of the research and I'm using you to
correct my.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
My understanding, which is what we do on the show too.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They are beginning to understand the cancer selves themselves better
than before. And there was a there was a.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
There.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
They isolated a an enzyme that cancer loves. Wait they okay,
so so they isolated something that cancer loves. So so
that that I think is a huge turning point of
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exam this enemy that you. You're getting to know what
they like and don't like.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So if you starve it of this enzyme, it's.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Another way to kill it without hurting yourself.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Correct, that's right, It's yeah, it's an amino acid. It's
abundant in animal protein like chicken and fish and all
the rest of the animal proteins. It's a lot less
in plant based foods. The food's lowest in this amino
acid are fruits. So we put patients on a high
fruit diet with some vegetables no animal products. That alone
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can start reversing the cancer. That you can take early
stage cancers and start turning them around with just that.
There's an atropathic doctor, doctor Robert Morris, been around over
thirty years. He's been true cancer patients with an all
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fruit diet. I don't think it understands all the details
of what's going on. It's not a scientist, but the
research papers that just keep on coming out again and
again and again points to this amino acid and another
amino acid. There's two of them, with thining insisting you
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don't have to starve the cancer cell completely of these,
but you just want to lower the intake. And then
that's a profound effect.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
To me.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
That is just like that should be shouted from the roofstops.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That should be on the news, like that should be
a channel on the news, because what is it. One
out of three women have cancer one out of two
men or the other way around. That is why aren't
we talking about this? Why isn't this in mainstream education?
Which is why I wanted to you know, That's what
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I'm for here, to do things differently and to really
really thank you for that heart.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Someone just.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Appreciated that. So okay, so we know two ways to
lessen the joy of a cancer cell. If I could
put it that way, and instead of going yum yum yum,
oh chicken, oh turkey, oh beef, I love those and
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then the cancer cell thrives, you stop eating those things
and you eat predominantly fruit and some vegetable that those
two enzymes which are naturally occurring in non plant food
but very little in plant food if at.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
All, begins to starve and.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Dramatically affect the size of your cancer cells.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So I just want to put that moose on the table.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's my Canadian version of elephants in the room, and
and anchor that. Like, if you have anyone in your
life that has cancer, they should be watching this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Because even Chris Warck and.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
As you said, doctor North, who are not scientists, they
but they they are great advocates because it's worked on them.
The science behind it is not necessarily understood. You just
eat a plant based diet. I don't know why, but
just do it. But I love this. What I wanted
to be a Hallmark show is to match up the
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practice and the science that this is not. Lord knows,
we've had way too much conspiracy theory, way too much
negativity around medical science and medical research and the kind
of research you're doing on nutril. Why do I have
a problem with that network suticals that this is? This
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is such a great thing to know, so continue.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, things are changing beginning to Mayo Clinic recommends a
plant based diet for all cancer patients, but it hasn't
filtered all the way through you know, conventional oncology. There's
a field called integrative oncology, and we're trying to work
through that avenue to get this information out. So many
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many of the cancer centers do have integrative oncology units,
and they do deal with nutrition, and they deal mostly
with stress, and they do acupuncture and you know other things.
But that's probably the best avenue to get this research
and information out. Two oncologists who for the most part,
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know nothing about nutrition. They've never been trained in nutrition
as most doctors, so you know, they tell their cancer
patients eat whatever you want, it doesn't matter, which is.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So far from the truth, so far from the truth. Yeah,
And if you're wondering what's going on in studio today.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I am delighted to have back in studio.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Live so that you can chat with us right now
on my YouTube TV channel. Please pre subscribe, give us
the finger or a heart, and you can ask questions
of Mark because he is live right now and we
will continue to share all this information that he has
and the exciting discoveries that he is now privy to
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in the shop with us on how we can really
defeat cancer and significantly make a dent on or attack.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's Achilles, Achilles, heel. We're going to take it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yes, take a quick break for news, weather, and traffic
on my NBC news radio channel, Casey, the station that
leaves no listener bye, but.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Do not go away when we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The very exciting that you don't even have to eat
sit in front of a farmer's table every day, that
there's a way to get all of these really good
nutritions that don't have those two enzymes that cancers love
in the latest discovery out of Nori, which is marked
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Nutritional Oncology Research Institute.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Did I get it? Fantastic? We'll be back into and
two don't go away, We'll be right back. Well.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
She has been dubbed the Asian Oprah and she just
wants all of us to be happy.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Doctor Marissa aka the Asian Oprah.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Says, the most important thing you can choose is choosing
to be happy.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You are tuned into my weekly talk radio TV show called.
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Take My Advice. I'm not using it.
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Get balanced with Doctor Marissa.
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That's the idea for doctor Marissa Pay's new book call
Eight Ways to Be Happy.
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Many of us say, I am my own worst critic.
Nobody's harder on me than I am. And my response
to that is stop it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Why are you doing that to yourself?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
You have to be your biggest fan, because if you can't,
at the end of the day say I did a
good job, who is We don't have to constantly be
angry at the things that are wrong. Why don't we
choose to be happy about things that are right. We
have the choice. That's our muscle, and life is so
amazing if we can see it.
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Take your life with Doctor Mauriepe.
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But it's over thirteen years now.
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So thank you very much for hanging out with me
live every weekday morning on KCAA and YouTube TV channel,
and today I am delighted to have back someone who
has very very important information should you or anyone you
know have cancer. Mark Simon is the founder and director
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of Nutritional Oncology Research Institute in NORI, which was established
in twenty eleven. Mark's background is in clinical nutrition with
a specific focus on cancer prevention and treatment. Marks the
CEO of NORI Nutraceuticals, which manufactures specialty nutritional supplements. And
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if you listen to the last Throwback Thursday interview, you'll
remember the great finding that we have identified, now what
two enzymes that cancer I'm sorry, I'm sorry, amino acids,
but the cancer thrives on and now we have a
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way to hit the Achilles heel of cancer.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Please welcome back to the studio, Mark Simon.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
All right, so let's talk about the real Achilles heel.
That dependence on those amino acids is related, but the
real Achilles heel of cancer cells is a sensitivity to
oxidative stress or free radicals. So I all have heard
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about antioxidants. You've also probably maybe even heard if you're
a cancer patient and you're undergoing chemotherapy, you're always told
don't take any antioxidants because it could interfere with the chemotherapy.
And that's true. So cancer cells protect themselves with antioxidants
and antioxidant systems that are within the cells. One of
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them is called glutathione. So when you look at a
normal cell and a cancer cell, there's actually a really
huge difference between them, which I call the real Achilles heel.
So normal cell is operating at a very low level
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of oxidative stress. The level of free radicals is really
low in a normal healthy cell. Cancer cell is at
a very high level, and that's because of its altered
metabolism and damaged mitochondria. We cannot understand the reasons why,
and so it has a ten to one hundred times
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higher level of oxidative stress or oxygen free radicals. So
what that means is that if you just raise the
global oxidative stress level a little bit, the cancer cell
is going to suffer and be pushed over the edge.
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So that's why things like ozone can be used therapeutically
in treating cancer and prooxidants instead of antioxidants. We use
prooxidants to create more oxidative stress and interfere with the
antioxidant systems, and all this can be done naturally, you know,
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without drugs. So back to the diet. That one amino
acid we were talking about cysteine. That's the key right there.
That amino acid itself is an antioxidant and it's used
to make glutathione, which is the master antioxidant within the cell.
So we're pulling the rugout from underneath the cancer cell
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with the diet by reducing the cysteine intake, so we're
impacting its antioxidant defense system. And then we can pile
on other oxidation and do some other tricky things and
just make the oxidative stress go crazy and the cancer cell.
But the normal cell's fine and happy. So that enables
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us to in a non toxic manner without side effects,
without any fish use it all kill cancer cells and
shrink tumors. Combination of diet plant based diet was very low.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The signing and sistine, so you're starving, you're starving.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Starving, and then and then some and then some prooxidant
nutriceuticals and then one other thing. So the thing I
shared the research paper.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You want it up there for me? Now?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Do you want me to bring it up?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Okay, let me do that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm getting a little uh. This is all new so
and there's a lot of scientific terms, okay, but I
don't need to understand it fully. All I need to
understand is things that we normally associate as negative, which
is anti ozone right, ozone layer that's usually a negative,
(34:58):
or antioxidants right is also not necessarily negative, but used
in a different context. You're saying that you know now
that cancer cells use antioxidants to protect themselves, and therefore
introducing prooxidants is a good thing in order to shrink
(35:20):
tumors kill cancer cells so that they are because they're
less protected now, and that is a natural way to
treat cancer if you have it, and also not suffer
the side effects that you normally do with traditional ways
of treating cancer.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Now is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Perfect?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Okay? Good.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm the average man dictionary, so I want to make
sure that people understand as well as me first what
you're saying that is a little less scientifically said, but nevertheless, Okay,
here's the research.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Okay, and you know, anybody can find this paper on
pubmad just google low sulfur amino acid, high polyunsaturated fat acid,
diet and cancer. So this is published in twenty twenty two.
This is a really exciting paper. And this is in
cell culture and also in mice, so it's in vitro
(36:22):
and in vivo. And these are human breast cancer cells
to types. So low sulfur amino acid that means low
methinine and cysteine. Those are the sulfur containing amino acids.
So basically they put the mice on a diet it's
(36:43):
low in these sulfur amino acids. They increased the polyunsaturated
fatty acids and this killed the breast cancer cells. And
the effect was actually quite dramatic. If you go through
the study, you can see pictures of the actual tumors
which are huge in the control group and very very
(37:06):
tiny in the experimental group. So here is scientific evidence here.
It is right here. These are the little tumors here
in the experimental group, and that's the control group. This
is the diet. This is the normal diet, and this
is the low sulfur amino acid high puff a diet.
(37:30):
So there's a demonstration in mice, but this is totally
translatable to humans. We can manipulate the diet and have
a profound, a very very profound effect. You can see
this curve right here, the blue and the red lines.
(37:52):
We have a very profound effect on the tumor rate
of growth and essentially over a long a period of time,
rid the animal of the tumor.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Will help me with the help me with the grass.
Here for a second, the one with the two circles,
uh the what is the red because it's a little small,
I can't read it.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Okay, So yeah, the blue line here this is the
control group. So this is just the mice on their
normal diet. The tumors just continue to grow, and you
can see in the red this is the low sulfur
amino acid high PUFA diet. You see that red line
(38:43):
is almost flat like the tumor just grew a tiny bit.
So it's had a very very significant effect on the
rate of tumor growth.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's on the bar graph. I'm not the bar graph.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I'm looking at the graph. It says tumor mass in weeks.
You see one week, two weeks, streets in three weeks.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
If you're driving, do not look.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But if you're a stationary and you're looking at this graph,
we're going through a published study that had significant results
in what Mark has been talking about the ability to
impact and find the Achilles heel of cancer cells and
(39:33):
how this particular diet in the experimental group significantly shrunk
the tumor and did not allow for the normal growth
which is in blue.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right on that graph.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You see it goes up that the red is almost flatlined,
which is good.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
That means no growths.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Correct, that's right.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Tell me what the green and blue on the bottom
is those two graphs.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, these are micrographs. This is kind of I think
it's important.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
One is the graph we just talked about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, that's it. So I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Do you want to kick it down?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah? Let me go. Here we go. Yeah, So anybody
can find this study, and it's also on my websites.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
But uh, and your website is Nori Nutritional Oncology.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't I'll pull that up because people will be asking trich.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
And also this is on breast cancer, but this would
apply to really all cancers because all cancers are dependent
on the sulfur amino acids, and all cancers are sensitive
to the high levels of polyunsaturated fatty acids. So I
(41:13):
remember I was talking about prooxidants. So the polyandsaturated fatty acids,
which are they Mega three and Amega six fatty acids,
at high levels in the body, they work like a prooxidant.
(41:33):
They actually create a sort of an oxidative effect. It's
kind of complicated. It's called lipid peroxidation. But anyway, these
things get into the cell membrane and they destabilize the
cell membrane, and selectively, only in the cancer cells the
cell membrane collapses. So it's it's a combination of two factors,
(41:59):
the lowering of the sulfur amino acids and the increase
in omega three and omega six fatty acids. That's all
that was done, and you wouldn't you'd barely see an
effect like that was a chemo drug. Now you take
this and then you can add on some other natural
(42:21):
things like prooxidants, and instead of that line just staying flat,
you could basically imagine just killing off all the cancer
cells completely. There's a type of cell death called feroptosis
and it was discovered about a dozen years ago. The
(42:41):
classic form of cell death is apoptosis, and now there's
this big interest in feroptosis because chemotherapy doesn't really kill
off the cancer stem cells, and those are the cells
that are responsible for recurrences, and so we need to
(43:02):
be able to kill all cancer cells, the tumor cells
and the cancer stem cells. So feroptosis is believed to
be a way to do that. So my protocol now
is feroptosis oriented. We do everything we can do to
maximize that form of cancer cell death.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
So that is so important.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I want to just highlight that again because it's something
that people don't know is that chemo therapy doesn't kill
the cancer stem cells, the underlying So then why the
fork is there's so much emphasis on that kind of
(43:49):
killing and not talking about the root. Of course, it's
going to come back if you're not getting the stem sell.
So again, this is why I have Mark here is
to really shout from the rooftops in it because cancer
is continuing to be a problem, definitely affecting happiness of
(44:14):
people having it and their loved ones. Is that you know, hey,
do you have all the information that is available that
has been researched.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
This is not conspiracy theory like you hear.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
About people dying when they have any alternative solutions to cancer.
And you know, I was told many times that that
is another conspiracy theory kind of you know, just based
on fear. But here you have recognizable empirical medical science and.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Studies that are showing that there is a solution to.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Killing cancer that is a not just a surface level
killing with no side effects. And please go to Mark's
website because not only does he have all this great
information I didn't know about pheroptosis myself. But also, this
(45:18):
is the cool part, is he does have I was
going to ask you, are you still doing your weekly
up calls?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
And he is.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
So's a free weekly online zoom workshop harnessing the Power
of Nutrition to Beat Cancer that y'all need to be
part of. If you know anybody that has cancer, or
if you yourself have cancer, doesn't mean you need.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
To stop your chemo or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I know that there's a lot of scary stuff around that,
but please, this is my message has always been. Yeah,
you may know you're not like mentally healthy mental health,
you have issues, but before you each for something outside yourself,
is there something you can do that is under your
power and responsibility to help yourself. And nutrition and what
(46:10):
the fork you put in your mouth, literally with a
fork or without it is important to understand and to try.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Why wouldn't you try?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There is no downside, There is no side effect to
having fruits and vegetables and not so much chicken and
beef and pork and all the things that feed the
cancer self.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Right, how did I do for the commercial?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
You did great? So I want to talk about sugar.
I want to talk sugar a little bit because people
are gonna ask, well, fruits full of sugar, and I
thought sugar feeds cancer. Well that's a misconception, so I've
heard that it's not. Yeah, fruit is not the same
thing as sugar. Refined sugar is not a good idea
(47:00):
because it can cause insulin spikes, and insulin itself can
be a tumor growth promoter. So you know, we don't
want refined sugar of course in the diet. But fruit
works just fine, and diabetics can go on an all
fruit diet and they do wonderfully. So this whole type
two diabetes thing has nothing to do with carbohydrates or
(47:23):
sugar or fruit. It has to do with an excess
of fat in the diet. That's what causes insulin resistance.
That's what's causing all this type two diabetes, Just an
excess of fat, especially animal fats. So that's an important
point I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, that's another that's another moose drop, my Canadian version
of talking about the elephant in the room. I've heard
how many times that diabetes is because of too much sugar.
Shouldn't eat fruit. Fruit is high in sugar. That's you're saying.
That's bullshit talkie correction. It is fat, mostly animal fat.
(48:08):
I have to listen to this because my cholesterol apparently
is higher than normal. And I told the doctor I
didn't want to take the pill. Let me just try
to lose some weight. And I did significantly bring down
the number. But I am guilty of loving Chinese. You know,
(48:29):
the fat that comes with the pork, that that Chrispy pork.
That's my life, bright achilles heel. Knowing that that is
probably why I have those numbers. I have really high
good LDL or whatever that number is, which is good.
But certainly this is good for me to know.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah, and read the China Study. Yes, that book's been
around a long time, but it's pretty enlightening. And there's
so many other books out there now talking about a
plan based diet, low fat, whole food, plant based diet
can reverse heart disease, they can reverse diabetes, that can
(49:09):
reverse practically all these chronic degenerative diseases. And you know
the answer, The answer to all these things is on
our plate.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah. Now, now I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I broke a rule and I told them about the
blood clot but I do want, I do want to
do this before the end of the show.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
The doctor told me there's nothing I can do mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
To reverse or dissolve the plot or prevent the clot
except for taking uh blood, which is what I'm doing
for the rest of my life. Okay, my second time
having and your response was, well, what are you eating?
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So, uh, please tell me.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
I want you to eat more pineapple and more papaya
enzymes in there, and then there's an enzyme called nato kinse.
And there's an enzyme called serah peptes, and these are
fibrinolytic enzymes and they can help break up clots. Interesting,
So enzymes, now we can talk about enzymes. Really really
(50:25):
important to get enzymes in your diet, and sometimes some
supplemental enzymes like bromolin. There is a very powerful enzyme
that has fibrinolytic activity. So bromlin is very very good
and it's pineapple naturally in pineapple, but you can also
(50:46):
get it as a supplement powder or pill. And then
I mentioned nato kinse. Nato is an Asian food. If
you'red of fer nato and atto, Okay, pretty nasty and smelly,
but it does have an enzyme they derive from it,
which is a fiber analytic enzyme, and sarah Pepte's also
(51:09):
fiber analytic enzyme. And generally, more fruit in your diet,
more raw fresh fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
You were mentioning figs as being there, you go.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
You should be. I think five servings a day of
fruit is inadequate. I think we need ten to fifteen
servings a day of wow. Okay, yeah, at least and
you could even try going fruitarian for a while for
a couple of weeks and see what that does to
your body. You see pretty amazing things. So, by the way,
(51:45):
I've been vegan for forty three years now, I just
turned seventy three, So don't pretty good, feeling pretty good,
No pains in my body, no medical issues, no nothing.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
It's a good longevity diet as well.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, and lowering these amino acids also increases life span,
So a low sulfur amino acid diet it's been shown
to extend life span and health span. So it's huge
benefit to eat less protein, not just getting rid of
the animal protein, but just less protein in general. You
(52:24):
don't need to worry about not getting enough protein. Protein
deficiency does not exist except in cases of very severe malnutrition.
You can survive on all fruit and you'll get mold
amino acids. You needles. And you know the old traditional
(52:50):
Asian diet, what is it. It's rice and vegetables and
some fruit. You never saw obesity, never saw a type
two diabetes, you never saw heart disease, and you saw
very very little cancer traditional diet. Look at the Blue
(53:11):
Zones Oakanowan diet. They mainly live on sweet potatoes, no
animal foods. They live to be well over one hundred
years old. Very very.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I thought the Okinawan or I thought the Blue Zones
also had fish.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
No, No, if there is any, it's a very very
very small amount.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
So that's also my daughter went vegan for like five years,
and as a concerned mom, you know, you heard all
the stories, Oh, they're not going to get enough protein
they need that they're pumping from somewhere. Have to have eggs,
you know, and then you'd say, no, I can't have eggs.
And so you're saying that that is another bs A
(53:57):
belief system that's not based on the fact for your
body that you don't need that.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Nope, you don't need it, and taking in protein beyond
what the body requires is toxic. The body has to
detoxifyle out of ammonia and uric acid. So you know,
putting more protein into our body than we need is
negative health consequences. Taking taking in protein from animal sources
(54:27):
is just outright unhealthy. And it crosses colorectal cancer. So
you know, going plant based will lower your risk of
colorectal cancer probably by eighty or more. Wow, So vegetarians
(54:47):
have much lower colorectal cancer risk. Vegans have much much lower.
And it all has to do with the gut and
the gut bacteria and what we're feeding in the gut.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Now I'm guessing that organic is better than non organic
when you come to some vegetables.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
Sure that's better, but you know, use the Dirty dozen lists.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Environmental Working Group produces a list. It's called the Dirty dozen.
So the Dirty dozen includes the worst fruits and vegetables
in terms of pesticide residues, and the top one is strawberries.
They've just stadded potatoes to that list. And then there's
(55:35):
the clean fifteen, So the list of fifteen foods that
are pretty free of pesticide residues, so organic versus non
organic doesn't become an issue with those foods. But there's
these dozen foods you know that have been tested and
have very very high and dangerous pesticide residue levels. Wow,
(56:02):
you know herbicide, pesticides, all the you know, agricultural chemicals.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
So the clean is not on this page.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yeah. The the the important message here, more importantly than
organic versus non organic is plant versus animal foods. So
to rather see people go way towards maybe one hundred
percent plant based living and not worry too much about
(56:39):
the organic versus non organic thing, because that's that's not
going to solve you know, the issue or the problems.
Or if you think you're going to be okay eating
grass fed beef, that's going to solve the problem, You're wrong,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
It's still it's still meat.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
Facts on the body, it's still meat.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yeah right right, Wow, we're out of time.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
I knew this would happen, but I think we did
really well on getting everything except the one thing is
you now have a pill that combines all three what
you were talking about, and that is available on your website.
So it's an easier way to uh get what.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
You need for what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
Correct, Well, this this is for people with cancer and
they can get onto our program. This requires supervision. It's
not something you can just I don't worry mind going
out and purchasing it, but you know, work with myself
or one of our people and implementing you know, we
(57:48):
call it a nutritional support program to work along with
your you know, overall treatment program whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
That may be, all right, And I just pulled it
up there, so it's very easy to find. You Just
put in Norinutritional Oncology dot org and you'll have all
of that information to follow up. And certainly that zoom,
that free weekly zoom is what you really want to
(58:19):
go to connect with Mark and to act on your
own behalf. And I know that I am going to
go out and have more papaya and pineapple and use
a uh research on myself to see if I can
dissolve the clots that I was told that I have
no control over. And we'll see. I like, I like,
(58:44):
thank you so much, Mark for coming on. And you
know the drill, it's all about balance. Put up your
peace sign for me. Uh, It's all about balance piece
in peace out world, peace through inner Piece. Now y'all
go and have best day ever. I'll see you tomorrow
with doctors in the house and doctor Tiffany Tates.
Speaker 8 (59:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:38):
So there's no gossip here, no scandal, Nokay words, no
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all the negative out there with some positivity, not just
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(01:58):
barriers are our own personal and collective happiness. So I
have topics and guests to that end, and certainly today
has no exception. Been looking forward to having my guests
that you're seeing on camera with me this morning. He's
the founder.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And director of Nutritional Oncology Research Institute NORI, which was
established in twoenty and eleven. Mark's background is in clinical
nutrition with a specific focus on cancer prevention and treatment.
He's the CEO of NORI. Fharm Sorry Nutrisceuticals manufacturers specialty
(02:39):
nutritional supplements, and if you listened to the last Throwback
Thursday interview, Mark has developed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
More. We talked about an enzyme before.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I am not going to have your review all that,
but he's developed a single tablet that targets the Achilles
heel of cancer and oxidizes cancer cells to death. The
tablet is a cocktail of three natural compounds and best
of all, small scale clinical studies are demonstrating remarkable results.
(03:13):
You know that when I do talk about anything like homelessness,
I bring someone on who has part solution to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That, like Doors of Change. Cancer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I've had Friend Dresser on with cancer Schmancer Education about prevention.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I had that show.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I've had Chris Wharf, who has been still cancer Freeze,
come on several times. So this is part of a
great series that we do not have to get beat
by cancer, but we can actually do something to beat
cancer ourselves. So please welcome back to the studio.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Mark Simon.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
For having me.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Absolutely, I'm so delighted that you reach responded.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I usually when I do the throwback.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Thursday, I go, I wonder what they're doing right now,
So I'm glad that you answered the call. Now, before
we get into all of the great information you're going
to give us, I have started this good life habit.
I don't know if you did it the last time
you're here. It is hashtag bliscipline top of the bun.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm sorry. We have breakfast with my guest.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Or with myself or my co host, and we take
a bite of my gratitude sandwich. So the top of
the bun is things that were grateful for outside of ourselves,
and then the bottom of the bun is things that
we're grateful for inside of ourselves, so that we when
we go to bed tonight, we're not thinking about, oh,
(04:50):
I didn't get this done, or it's not good enough,
or who've done me wrong? But instead we're ready in
primed for being able to go to bed about.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know what, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
At blank or I am a caring person or whatever
that quality is, so that we'll get a good night's sleep.
So that's been the practice I've been doing on the
show now for a couple of years. I don't know
if you did it last time, but we'll just start
and it doesn't have to be long, but it has
to be specific. So top of the bunt, I'll start with,
I am grateful for this beautiful cup of coffee, my
(05:29):
first cup of coffee in the morning, and the taste
of my coffee, and I get to be one with
my coffee. Those of you who know that I celebrate
the deliciousness of life. Here's the model.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Here we go. This is what you do every time
you eat or drink something.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Good that is being one with your deliciousness of life.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What are you grateful for? Mark?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh? I started the morning off with some fresh figs.
I love figs, one of my favorite fruits.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Great, great, Yeah, on Wednesdays, I go to a meeting
that has a big tree and I just picked.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I had fresh figs for the first time. It's funny
you should say that. And they're delicios.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Soul for sure, the perfect ideal food for humans.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Really. Okay, Okay, we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We could live on figs alone. Wow, we can live
on fruit alone?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, Yes, that that's a nice little commercial for for
what's about to ensue on the show. We Are What
We Eat, right, That is definitely one of the topics.
I am grateful that I get to have this incredible
view that I'll show you. I'm gonna put the story
(06:54):
up uh to to encourage people to come now to
participate on this live show on my YouTube TV channel.
Please free subscribe, give me the finger, this one, not
the other one. And I'm grateful for the view that
you'll see in the story that I'm going to show you.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Of the ocean of abundance. What else. Are you grateful
for Mark.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just being able to wake up every morning, healthy, energetic,
and pursue my purpose?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I am grateful that I had a nice no labor
day yesterday where I purposely tried not to work. Not
an easy thing. I'm a recovering workaholic and have eight jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I went and I'm now adding to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The deliciousness of my life, the fragrance of life. I
did something I've never done before. I went to Home Goods.
Never been there before. I'm not really a domestic at all,
but I smelled about one hundred and eighty bottles of
hands soap and candles and it was lovely. It was
(08:05):
a great experience, not realizing there was so it is
really beautiful to smell, you know, the combinations of all
the natural things in the world of vanilla and things
like that. So, yeah, that was really fun. I'm grateful
for that. All right, Let's go to the bottom of
the button, which is what do I like about myself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The reason why we do this is, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Meaning parents, sometimes more mean than wealth, say things like
you're not all that, don't toot your own born. In
Chinese and Japanese we have a saying the nail that
stands up as hammered down.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Not real incentive to pat yourself on the back.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But as a result of not doing that, we're constantly
looking to other people to see how we're doing and
approvals and literally we're walking around with antenna looking for
likes on social media. Literally, And it's a horrible way
to lift because one film they may like you one
day and then they don't like it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
The next day.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Solid ground is weightlifting. What are you good at? What
do you like about yourself? And I'll start, I'll say
I like that I am able to process my feelings
and feel my feelings fully without killing people and knowing
(09:30):
that once I feel them, I can work through that
onto the other side. So it's a skill and I'm
pretty good at it. So I appreciate that about myself.
What do you like about yourself?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I think the fact that I think I have most
things in balance pretty well. I started yoga like twenty
years ago, and that's all about balance for me, so
I was able to find and achieve that balance and
ordering of priorities. So balance and priorities.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Fabulous, Yeah, very important.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And then one more thing, one more thing.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, please, please, Usually people.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Don't like to perspective. Is important to have perspective from
like the universe, that level of perspective rather than the
little stuff perspective on a large scale, I like that
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of who we are, what we are, what we're meant
to do, what we're meant.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
To be awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, a year knows what a day doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah right, yeah, or will be revealed.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I have a little story that definitely practice is
that that I'll share a little bit later. But thank
you for joining me for breakfast. Mark that was good.
Sometimes my guests are a little bit but it did great.
Thanks for that. And I encourage all of you listening
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in right now an hour later to do this good
life practice, this hashtag discipline for twenty eight days consecutive days,
or thirty or twenty one, whatever you believe makes a
good habit. And you can join me every weekday morning
here to do that or do it on your own.
And you know I promised that if you do this
(11:37):
good life habit, you will sandwich your day in the
most positive way. Thanks for joining us for breakfast. And
now for the topic of the day.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It says everything is awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And we're gonna talk about out cancer today, not about
the horribleness of cancer, but that cancer has an achilles heel.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Which is a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To describe what we're going to talk about. But before
we get into the nitty gritty, because we do have
a good forty five minutes, I want to find out
from you sort of did.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know when you were a kid you're going to
be doing this?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Sort of what sparked you to go into this field?
What sparked you to want to look at both nutrition
and cancer research, cancer treatment in prevention.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, in college I decided I wanted to be in
the field of science and research, and the field I
shows back then was neuroscience. Then I took a diversion
away and you know, created a career in something else,
but some are related. And then I got back into
(13:05):
my interest in science when my wife was diagnosed with
breast cancer. That was in two thousand and four, and
I took a deep dive it's research looking at alternative
ways you know, of treating it rather than the conventional
way of surgery, radiation, chemotherapy, and I found some extraordinary
(13:26):
things out. And I had already established my background in
clinical nutrition so had I had that, So I was
looking at everything from that perspective, you know, what can
we do with diet, what can we do with nutritional supplements?
So unfortunately she didn't make it, but I carried on
my research and started NORI, and I discovered a couple
(13:53):
important things back then which I held onto and still
utilize in my work, And one of them is the
discovery of selenium as an anti cancer agent. It has
proven effects for cancer prevention and very very strong scientific evidence,
(14:16):
you know, many many decades of evidence for treatment. You
using a common and nutritional supplement for treating cancer. You
just have to know how to dose it properly and
combine it with other things, and it's very very effective.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So before we go to Cilia, I kind of want
to give like the big picture and sort of the
history and some really important things that are understood and
not understood about cancer, because I think that is that
is really where we're at. Usually and personal eye talked
(15:00):
about this as soon as you are diagnosed, right, and
when he was diagnosed, and when your wife was diagnosed,
And I'm sorry for your loss, but I know that
she's loving you powerfully from the other side. And supporting
you and all the research that you're doing, which is
(15:21):
a beautiful way to you know, live out her legacy.
And before I forget, I'm going to give you the
Beneficial Presence on the Planet Award, which I give to
not all my guests, but I don't know if I
gave it to you last time. But those people who
take their experiences in life that are often painful and
(15:43):
turn it into something that helps tremendously other people to
avoid or minimize their suffering.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So so here I am today, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So I just want to again, let's take that eighty
eight thousand foot I know you're excited about talking about
and I am too, but I want us to build
into it because it's so significant that right now, the
average person finding out that they have a diagnosis of cancer,
(16:28):
still to this day in traditional Western medicine, and they say,
is there anything I should do differently with in terms
of diet? Okay that the answer more often than not
is no.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, you need chemo or you need radiation, you
need surgery, you need this and diet.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It If it is that all talked about, it's kind
of down at the bottom of the list is that Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So that's the state of things today, trouble saying okay.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I just wanted to make sure because that's what it
was like when Chris got diagnosed, when my friends have
been diagnosed, and I didn't know if that was still
sort of the same. So I'm guessing that it is
still sort of the same. Okay, Yes, And so then
the thing that that was so exciting and I actually
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found you, guys.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I was introduced to both of you and doctor Hoffman through.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
My my client slash friend Teresa, who who said, oh,
you have to meet you have to have them on
the show.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So that is how I first met you.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And the sad part is my I got a text
from her husband and she has passed and I shared
that with you over the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And she will be I get to sing amazing Grace on.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Friday when people put of flowers out for her, and
I get to celebrate her life then. But that is
what triggered me doing throwback Thursday and then asking you
to come on now when you came on before the
exciting news them was on the clinical side, is that
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the research was beginning to understand cancer better than before.
And I'll say that before cancer was just bad, you know,
it was a bad thing to have. It was a
bad and really have no defense, right except for either
cut it out or radiate it, right to kill it
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and then all the side effects may also kill you
or hurt you or you know, all that. There was
nothing else. There was no other solution to killing cancer
other than radiation or surgery. For you know, the chemo.
I don't know if it's classified as well. It's a toxic, right,
(19:07):
You're killing the kid yourself using poison, right, right, So
then some of the research and I'm using you to
correct my.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
My understanding, which is what we do on the show too.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They are beginning to understand the cancer selves themselves better
than before. And there was a there was a.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
There.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
They isolated a an enzyme that cancer loves. Wait they okay,
so so they isolated something that cancer loves. So so
that that I think is a huge turning point of
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exam this enemy that you. You're getting to know what
they like and don't like.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So if you starve it of this enzyme, it's.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Another way to kill it without hurting yourself.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Correct, that's right, It's yeah, it's an amino acid. It's
abundant in animal protein like chicken and fish and all
the rest of the animal proteins. It's a lot less
in plant based foods. The food's lowest in this amino
acid are fruits. So we put patients on a high
fruit diet with some vegetables no animal products. That alone
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can start reversing the cancer. That you can take early
stage cancers and start turning them around with just that.
There's an atropathic doctor, doctor Robert Morris, been around over
thirty years. He's been true cancer patients with an all
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fruit diet. I don't think it understands all the details
of what's going on. It's not a scientist, but the
research papers that just keep on coming out again and
again and again points to this amino acid and another
amino acid. There's two of them, with thining insisting you
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don't have to starve the cancer cell completely of these,
but you just want to lower the intake. And then
that's a profound effect.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
To me.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
That is just like that should be shouted from the roofstops.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That should be on the news, like that should be
a channel on the news, because what is it. One
out of three women have cancer one out of two
men or the other way around. That is why aren't
we talking about this? Why isn't this in mainstream education?
Which is why I wanted to you know, That's what
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I'm for here, to do things differently and to really
really thank you for that heart.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Someone just.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Appreciated that. So okay, so we know two ways to
lessen the joy of a cancer cell. If I could
put it that way, and instead of going yum yum yum,
oh chicken, oh turkey, oh beef, I love those and
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then the cancer cell thrives, you stop eating those things
and you eat predominantly fruit and some vegetable that those
two enzymes which are naturally occurring in non plant food
but very little in plant food if at.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
All, begins to starve and.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Dramatically affect the size of your cancer cells.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So I just want to put that moose on the table.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's my Canadian version of elephants in the room, and
and anchor that. Like, if you have anyone in your
life that has cancer, they should be watching this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Because even Chris Warck and.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
As you said, doctor North, who are not scientists, they
but they they are great advocates because it's worked on them.
The science behind it is not necessarily understood. You just
eat a plant based diet. I don't know why, but
just do it. But I love this. What I wanted
to be a Hallmark show is to match up the
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practice and the science that this is not. Lord knows,
we've had way too much conspiracy theory, way too much
negativity around medical science and medical research and the kind
of research you're doing on nutril. Why do I have
a problem with that network suticals that this is? This
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is such a great thing to know, so continue.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, things are changing beginning to Mayo Clinic recommends a
plant based diet for all cancer patients, but it hasn't
filtered all the way through you know, conventional oncology. There's
a field called integrative oncology, and we're trying to work
through that avenue to get this information out. So many
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many of the cancer centers do have integrative oncology units,
and they do deal with nutrition, and they deal mostly
with stress, and they do acupuncture and you know other things.
But that's probably the best avenue to get this research
and information out. Two oncologists who for the most part,
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know nothing about nutrition. They've never been trained in nutrition
as most doctors, so you know, they tell their cancer
patients eat whatever you want, it doesn't matter, which is.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So far from the truth, so far from the truth. Yeah,
And if you're wondering what's going on in studio today.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I am delighted to have back in studio.
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and the exciting discoveries that he is now privy to
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in the shop with us on how we can really
defeat cancer and significantly make a dent on or attack.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's Achilles, Achilles, heel. We're going to take it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yes, take a quick break for news, weather, and traffic
on my NBC news radio channel, Casey, the station that
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Speaker 3 (26:24):
Do not go away when we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The very exciting that you don't even have to eat
sit in front of a farmer's table every day, that
there's a way to get all of these really good
nutritions that don't have those two enzymes that cancers love
in the latest discovery out of Nori, which is marked
(26:47):
Nutritional Oncology Research Institute.
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So thank you very much for hanging out with me
live every weekday morning on KCAA and YouTube TV channel,
and today I am delighted to have back someone who
has very very important information should you or anyone you
know have cancer. Mark Simon is the founder and director
(30:04):
of Nutritional Oncology Research Institute in NORI, which was established
in twenty eleven. Mark's background is in clinical nutrition with
a specific focus on cancer prevention and treatment. Marks the
CEO of NORI Nutraceuticals, which manufactures specialty nutritional supplements. And
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if you listen to the last Throwback Thursday interview, you'll
remember the great finding that we have identified, now what
two enzymes that cancer I'm sorry, I'm sorry, amino acids,
but the cancer thrives on and now we have a
(30:45):
way to hit the Achilles heel of cancer.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Please welcome back to the studio, Mark Simon.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
All right, so let's talk about the real Achilles heel.
That dependence on those amino acids is related, but the
real Achilles heel of cancer cells is a sensitivity to
oxidative stress or free radicals. So I all have heard
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about antioxidants. You've also probably maybe even heard if you're
a cancer patient and you're undergoing chemotherapy, you're always told
don't take any antioxidants because it could interfere with the chemotherapy.
And that's true. So cancer cells protect themselves with antioxidants
and antioxidant systems that are within the cells. One of
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them is called glutathione. So when you look at a
normal cell and a cancer cell, there's actually a really
huge difference between them, which I call the real Achilles heel.
So normal cell is operating at a very low level
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of oxidative stress. The level of free radicals is really
low in a normal healthy cell. Cancer cell is at
a very high level, and that's because of its altered
metabolism and damaged mitochondria. We cannot understand the reasons why,
and so it has a ten to one hundred times
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higher level of oxidative stress or oxygen free radicals. So
what that means is that if you just raise the
global oxidative stress level a little bit, the cancer cell
is going to suffer and be pushed over the edge.
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So that's why things like ozone can be used therapeutically
in treating cancer and prooxidants instead of antioxidants. We use
prooxidants to create more oxidative stress and interfere with the
antioxidant systems, and all this can be done naturally, you know,
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without drugs. So back to the diet. That one amino
acid we were talking about cysteine. That's the key right there.
That amino acid itself is an antioxidant and it's used
to make glutathione, which is the master antioxidant within the cell.
So we're pulling the rugout from underneath the cancer cell
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with the diet by reducing the cysteine intake, so we're
impacting its antioxidant defense system. And then we can pile
on other oxidation and do some other tricky things and
just make the oxidative stress go crazy and the cancer cell.
But the normal cell's fine and happy. So that enables
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us to in a non toxic manner without side effects,
without any fish use it all kill cancer cells and
shrink tumors. Combination of diet plant based diet was very low.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The signing and sistine, so you're starving, you're starving.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Starving, and then and then some and then some prooxidant
nutriceuticals and then one other thing. So the thing I
shared the research paper.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You want it up there for me? Now?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Do you want me to bring it up?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Okay, let me do that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm getting a little uh. This is all new so
and there's a lot of scientific terms, okay, but I
don't need to understand it fully. All I need to
understand is things that we normally associate as negative, which
is anti ozone right, ozone layer that's usually a negative,
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or antioxidants right is also not necessarily negative, but used
in a different context. You're saying that you know now
that cancer cells use antioxidants to protect themselves, and therefore
introducing prooxidants is a good thing in order to shrink
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tumors kill cancer cells so that they are because they're
less protected now, and that is a natural way to
treat cancer if you have it, and also not suffer
the side effects that you normally do with traditional ways
of treating cancer.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Now is that accurate?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Perfect?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Okay? Good.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm the average man dictionary, so I want to make
sure that people understand as well as me first what
you're saying that is a little less scientifically said, but nevertheless, Okay,
here's the research.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Okay, and you know, anybody can find this paper on
pubmad just google low sulfur amino acid, high polyunsaturated fat acid,
diet and cancer. So this is published in twenty twenty two.
This is a really exciting paper. And this is in
cell culture and also in mice, so it's in vitro
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and in vivo. And these are human breast cancer cells
to types. So low sulfur amino acid that means low
methinine and cysteine. Those are the sulfur containing amino acids.
So basically they put the mice on a diet it's
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low in these sulfur amino acids. They increased the polyunsaturated
fatty acids and this killed the breast cancer cells. And
the effect was actually quite dramatic. If you go through
the study, you can see pictures of the actual tumors
which are huge in the control group and very very
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tiny in the experimental group. So here is scientific evidence here.
It is right here. These are the little tumors here
in the experimental group, and that's the control group. This
is the diet. This is the normal diet, and this
is the low sulfur amino acid high puff a diet.
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So there's a demonstration in mice, but this is totally
translatable to humans. We can manipulate the diet and have
a profound, a very very profound effect. You can see
this curve right here, the blue and the red lines.
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We have a very profound effect on the tumor rate
of growth and essentially over a long a period of time,
rid the animal of the tumor.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Will help me with the help me with the grass.
Here for a second, the one with the two circles,
uh the what is the red because it's a little small,
I can't read it.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Okay, So yeah, the blue line here this is the
control group. So this is just the mice on their
normal diet. The tumors just continue to grow, and you
can see in the red this is the low sulfur
amino acid high PUFA diet. You see that red line
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is almost flat like the tumor just grew a tiny bit.
So it's had a very very significant effect on the
rate of tumor growth.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's on the bar graph. I'm not the bar graph.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I'm looking at the graph. It says tumor mass in weeks.
You see one week, two weeks, streets in three weeks.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
If you're driving, do not look.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But if you're a stationary and you're looking at this graph,
we're going through a published study that had significant results
in what Mark has been talking about the ability to
impact and find the Achilles heel of cancer cells and
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how this particular diet in the experimental group significantly shrunk
the tumor and did not allow for the normal growth
which is in blue.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right on that graph.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You see it goes up that the red is almost flatlined,
which is good.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
That means no growths.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Correct, that's right.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Tell me what the green and blue on the bottom
is those two graphs.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, these are micrographs. This is kind of I think
it's important.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
One is the graph we just talked about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, that's it. So I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Do you want to kick it down?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah? Let me go. Here we go. Yeah, So anybody
can find this study, and it's also on my websites.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
But uh, and your website is Nori Nutritional Oncology.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't I'll pull that up because people will be asking trich.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
And also this is on breast cancer, but this would
apply to really all cancers because all cancers are dependent
on the sulfur amino acids, and all cancers are sensitive
to the high levels of polyunsaturated fatty acids. So I
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remember I was talking about prooxidants. So the polyandsaturated fatty acids,
which are they Mega three and Amega six fatty acids,
at high levels in the body, they work like a prooxidant.
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They actually create a sort of an oxidative effect. It's
kind of complicated. It's called lipid peroxidation. But anyway, these
things get into the cell membrane and they destabilize the
cell membrane, and selectively, only in the cancer cells the
cell membrane collapses. So it's it's a combination of two factors,
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the lowering of the sulfur amino acids and the increase
in omega three and omega six fatty acids. That's all
that was done, and you wouldn't you'd barely see an
effect like that was a chemo drug. Now you take
this and then you can add on some other natural
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things like prooxidants, and instead of that line just staying flat,
you could basically imagine just killing off all the cancer
cells completely. There's a type of cell death called feroptosis
and it was discovered about a dozen years ago. The
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classic form of cell death is apoptosis, and now there's
this big interest in feroptosis because chemotherapy doesn't really kill
off the cancer stem cells, and those are the cells
that are responsible for recurrences, and so we need to
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be able to kill all cancer cells, the tumor cells
and the cancer stem cells. So feroptosis is believed to
be a way to do that. So my protocol now
is feroptosis oriented. We do everything we can do to
maximize that form of cancer cell death.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
So that is so important.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I want to just highlight that again because it's something
that people don't know is that chemo therapy doesn't kill
the cancer stem cells, the underlying So then why the
fork is there's so much emphasis on that kind of
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killing and not talking about the root. Of course, it's
going to come back if you're not getting the stem sell.
So again, this is why I have Mark here is
to really shout from the rooftops in it because cancer
is continuing to be a problem, definitely affecting happiness of
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people having it and their loved ones. Is that you know, hey,
do you have all the information that is available that
has been researched.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
This is not conspiracy theory like you hear.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
About people dying when they have any alternative solutions to cancer.
And you know, I was told many times that that
is another conspiracy theory kind of you know, just based
on fear. But here you have recognizable empirical medical science and.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Studies that are showing that there is a solution to.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Killing cancer that is a not just a surface level
killing with no side effects. And please go to Mark's
website because not only does he have all this great
information I didn't know about pheroptosis myself. But also, this
(45:18):
is the cool part, is he does have I was
going to ask you, are you still doing your weekly
up calls?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
And he is.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
So's a free weekly online zoom workshop harnessing the Power
of Nutrition to Beat Cancer that y'all need to be
part of. If you know anybody that has cancer, or
if you yourself have cancer, doesn't mean you need.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
To stop your chemo or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I know that there's a lot of scary stuff around that,
but please, this is my message has always been. Yeah,
you may know you're not like mentally healthy mental health,
you have issues, but before you each for something outside yourself,
is there something you can do that is under your
power and responsibility to help yourself. And nutrition and what
(46:10):
the fork you put in your mouth, literally with a
fork or without it is important to understand and to try.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Why wouldn't you try?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There is no downside, There is no side effect to
having fruits and vegetables and not so much chicken and
beef and pork and all the things that feed the
cancer self.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Right, how did I do for the commercial?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
You did great? So I want to talk about sugar.
I want to talk sugar a little bit because people
are gonna ask, well, fruits full of sugar, and I
thought sugar feeds cancer. Well that's a misconception, so I've
heard that it's not. Yeah, fruit is not the same
thing as sugar. Refined sugar is not a good idea
(47:00):
because it can cause insulin spikes, and insulin itself can
be a tumor growth promoter. So you know, we don't
want refined sugar of course in the diet. But fruit
works just fine, and diabetics can go on an all
fruit diet and they do wonderfully. So this whole type
two diabetes thing has nothing to do with carbohydrates or
(47:23):
sugar or fruit. It has to do with an excess
of fat in the diet. That's what causes insulin resistance.
That's what's causing all this type two diabetes, Just an
excess of fat, especially animal fats. So that's an important
point I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, that's another that's another moose drop, my Canadian version
of talking about the elephant in the room. I've heard
how many times that diabetes is because of too much sugar.
Shouldn't eat fruit. Fruit is high in sugar. That's you're saying.
That's bullshit talkie correction. It is fat, mostly animal fat.
(48:08):
I have to listen to this because my cholesterol apparently
is higher than normal. And I told the doctor I
didn't want to take the pill. Let me just try
to lose some weight. And I did significantly bring down
the number. But I am guilty of loving Chinese. You know,
(48:29):
the fat that comes with the pork, that that Chrispy pork.
That's my life, bright achilles heel. Knowing that that is
probably why I have those numbers. I have really high
good LDL or whatever that number is, which is good.
But certainly this is good for me to know.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah, and read the China Study. Yes, that book's been
around a long time, but it's pretty enlightening. And there's
so many other books out there now talking about a
plan based diet, low fat, whole food, plant based diet
can reverse heart disease, they can reverse diabetes, that can
(49:09):
reverse practically all these chronic degenerative diseases. And you know
the answer, The answer to all these things is on
our plate.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah. Now, now I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I broke a rule and I told them about the
blood clot but I do want, I do want to
do this before the end of the show.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
The doctor told me there's nothing I can do mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
To reverse or dissolve the plot or prevent the clot
except for taking uh blood, which is what I'm doing
for the rest of my life. Okay, my second time
having and your response was, well, what are you eating?
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So, uh, please tell me.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
I want you to eat more pineapple and more papaya
enzymes in there, and then there's an enzyme called nato kinse.
And there's an enzyme called serah peptes, and these are
fibrinolytic enzymes and they can help break up clots. Interesting,
So enzymes, now we can talk about enzymes. Really really
(50:25):
important to get enzymes in your diet, and sometimes some
supplemental enzymes like bromolin. There is a very powerful enzyme
that has fibrinolytic activity. So bromlin is very very good
and it's pineapple naturally in pineapple, but you can also
(50:46):
get it as a supplement powder or pill. And then
I mentioned nato kinse. Nato is an Asian food. If
you'red of fer nato and atto, Okay, pretty nasty and smelly,
but it does have an enzyme they derive from it,
which is a fiber analytic enzyme, and sarah Pepte's also
(51:09):
fiber analytic enzyme. And generally, more fruit in your diet,
more raw fresh fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
You were mentioning figs as being there, you go.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
You should be. I think five servings a day of
fruit is inadequate. I think we need ten to fifteen
servings a day of wow. Okay, yeah, at least and
you could even try going fruitarian for a while for
a couple of weeks and see what that does to
your body. You see pretty amazing things. So, by the way,
(51:45):
I've been vegan for forty three years now, I just
turned seventy three, So don't pretty good, feeling pretty good,
No pains in my body, no medical issues, no nothing.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
It's a good longevity diet as well.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, and lowering these amino acids also increases life span,
So a low sulfur amino acid diet it's been shown
to extend life span and health span. So it's huge
benefit to eat less protein, not just getting rid of
the animal protein, but just less protein in general. You
(52:24):
don't need to worry about not getting enough protein. Protein
deficiency does not exist except in cases of very severe malnutrition.
You can survive on all fruit and you'll get mold
amino acids. You needles. And you know the old traditional
(52:50):
Asian diet, what is it. It's rice and vegetables and
some fruit. You never saw obesity, never saw a type
two diabetes, you never saw heart disease, and you saw
very very little cancer traditional diet. Look at the Blue
(53:11):
Zones Oakanowan diet. They mainly live on sweet potatoes, no
animal foods. They live to be well over one hundred
years old. Very very.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I thought the Okinawan or I thought the Blue Zones
also had fish.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
No, No, if there is any, it's a very very
very small amount.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
So that's also my daughter went vegan for like five years,
and as a concerned mom, you know, you heard all
the stories, Oh, they're not going to get enough protein
they need that they're pumping from somewhere. Have to have eggs,
you know, and then you'd say, no, I can't have eggs.
And so you're saying that that is another bs A
(53:57):
belief system that's not based on the fact for your
body that you don't need that.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Nope, you don't need it, and taking in protein beyond
what the body requires is toxic. The body has to
detoxifyle out of ammonia and uric acid. So you know,
putting more protein into our body than we need is
negative health consequences. Taking taking in protein from animal sources
(54:27):
is just outright unhealthy. And it crosses colorectal cancer. So
you know, going plant based will lower your risk of
colorectal cancer probably by eighty or more. Wow, So vegetarians
(54:47):
have much lower colorectal cancer risk. Vegans have much much lower.
And it all has to do with the gut and
the gut bacteria and what we're feeding in the gut.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Now I'm guessing that organic is better than non organic
when you come to some vegetables.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
Sure that's better, but you know, use the Dirty dozen lists.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Environmental Working Group produces a list. It's called the Dirty dozen.
So the Dirty dozen includes the worst fruits and vegetables
in terms of pesticide residues, and the top one is strawberries.
They've just stadded potatoes to that list. And then there's
(55:35):
the clean fifteen, So the list of fifteen foods that
are pretty free of pesticide residues, so organic versus non
organic doesn't become an issue with those foods. But there's
these dozen foods you know that have been tested and
have very very high and dangerous pesticide residue levels. Wow,
(56:02):
you know herbicide, pesticides, all the you know, agricultural chemicals.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
So the clean is not on this page.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yeah. The the the important message here, more importantly than
organic versus non organic is plant versus animal foods. So
to rather see people go way towards maybe one hundred
percent plant based living and not worry too much about
(56:39):
the organic versus non organic thing, because that's that's not
going to solve you know, the issue or the problems.
Or if you think you're going to be okay eating
grass fed beef, that's going to solve the problem, You're wrong,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
It's still it's still meat.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
Facts on the body, it's still meat.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yeah right right, Wow, we're out of time.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
I knew this would happen, but I think we did
really well on getting everything except the one thing is
you now have a pill that combines all three what
you were talking about, and that is available on your website.
So it's an easier way to uh get what.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
You need for what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
Correct, Well, this this is for people with cancer and
they can get onto our program. This requires supervision. It's
not something you can just I don't worry mind going
out and purchasing it, but you know, work with myself
or one of our people and implementing you know, we
(57:48):
call it a nutritional support program to work along with
your you know, overall treatment program whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
That may be, all right, And I just pulled it
up there, so it's very easy to find. You Just
put in Norinutritional Oncology dot org and you'll have all
of that information to follow up. And certainly that zoom,
that free weekly zoom is what you really want to
(58:19):
go to connect with Mark and to act on your
own behalf. And I know that I am going to
go out and have more papaya and pineapple and use
a uh research on myself to see if I can
dissolve the clots that I was told that I have
no control over. And we'll see. I like, I like,
(58:44):
thank you so much, Mark for coming on. And you
know the drill, it's all about balance. Put up your
peace sign for me. Uh, It's all about balance piece
in peace out world, peace through inner Piece. Now y'all
go and have best day ever. I'll see you tomorrow
with doctors in the house and doctor Tiffany Tates.
Speaker 8 (59:06):
Thanks Mark, be safe not sorry this Labor Day. Don't
drink and dry.
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