KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa (Tue, 25 Nov, 2025)

KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa on Tue, 25 Nov, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Us the time of day, jump off at exhausting amster
wheel and into balance. Living with Doctor Marissa from MISSUJ.
Doctor Marisa, also known as the Asian Oprah. Her mission
to be a beneficial presence on the planet, her purpose

(00:21):
to be your personal advocate, to live, lap love, learn
her life motto, don't die wondering. Take back your life
with Doctor Maurissa Pey.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
And welcome your tune to to take my advice. I'm
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
Why so many places. I want to maximize my splatter
zone for more hope and happiness, because frankly, my dear,
everything out there right now in the headlines will leave
you with the four A syndrome, anxious, angry, aggravated, and afraid.
And I don't want you waking up that way. I

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don't want you.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
On your drive time on the way to work in
those four states, and said, I want you to feel amazing,
which is why for seven hundred and seven consecutive weeks
now there has been no gun, no scandal, and no headlines.
You can get it anywhere else, but here you're not
gonna get them. You're gonna get instead heartlines. You're gonna

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get topics and guests and co hosts and stories and
interviews that I'll get your heartlines and also make you
learn something new and make you laugh a lot, because
that is my favorite sound on the planet, and today
is no exception. You'll see. I have a handsome young

(02:16):
man in studio today. His name is Norman King the fourth.
He's a Los Angeles based actor, filmmaker, and host, and
the founder and CEO of nk iv he LLC alphabet soup. There. Yeah.
He has lived and studied in Patty and Limberg. I

(02:37):
didn't know about that part, directed several short films, worked
for PBS, slash w ETA, and served as head of
social media production for the Hollywood musical Adventures in the
Great Beyond. A multilingual artist, he continues to write TV
and film scripts while advancing his care in the entertainment industry.

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And he's also experienced myself in his studio on his
hot seat and turn about his fair play. Did you
even know what that expression was? Turn about is fair play?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You did?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, Okay, I have to make sure if i'd have
to pull out my gen Z dictionary. But please, welcome
to my studio and my hot seat maybe warm seat,
Norm and King welcome.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Thank you so so much. I really appreciate.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It absolutely, and I'm going to have you set up
one inch so that your chint. There we go. Boy,
that was easy. Isn't lost in your name? And I'm
so delighted that you are here. Before we get started
in to the topic of the day, I wanted to
start with breakfast. I do this every weekday morning with you,

(04:06):
which is taking a bite of my gratitude sandwich. I
don't tell my guests, so I don't want you to
overthink it. That's why I'm introducing it now. Very simple.
Top of the bun is what you're grateful for outside
of yourself. So when you wake up in the morning,
just take a look around. What are some things that
you're grateful for and then bottom of the bun I

(04:28):
want you to do tonight before you go to bed,
and Norman and I will model for you. Want you
to take that look and look inside and say what
do I like about myself? And that's inside look, it's
my bs, my belief system that self care, self love,
self soothing are the foundation of your mental health, the

(04:53):
good mental health, healthy mental health. So that's why we
do it. I'll start this morning. I am grateful for
a washer and dryer unit that I have in my
beautiful blood clot silver lining, gorgeous place overlooking the ocean
of abundance in Long Beach, and I am grateful for

(05:17):
that convenience. What are you grateful for, Norman.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I'm grateful for being able to have a wonderful similar
to your to what you just said. I'm so grateful
to having a wonderful view from my window and a wonderful,
just wonderful weather today. You know, it's been raining for
the past few days here in Los Angeles, and I
know the internet has been joking all about it, but

(05:42):
I'm just so happy that the sun has finally come out.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I am grateful that I am solar powered, which is
exactly uh. Uh did diddoing your statement? And the sun
is always shining somewhere, but I I like it a
lot when it's shining here, which is the reason why
I left Brussels. I think we did share that we
both have lived in Europe, and yeah, that it's very

(06:14):
beautiful in Brussels, like and London. But the weather there's
just nothing like sunny California, So we could be grateful
about that for sure. Let's go to the bottom of them.
What what do you like about yourself? And especially uh,
we're going to have some talk about your fabulous generation.

(06:34):
Uh and I've been just putting them all into the
older and the young, and but I know that you
would ask me a question in my interview specifically about
how to deal with things as a gen zuh and
some of the qualifications for that or the qualities that
that younger generation carries. So I'm going to I do

(06:58):
this part of the exercise because there's a tendency, especially
with those who were brought up with social media, to
be very particularly hard on ourselves because we've got antenna
up looking for love in all the wrong places or
likes literally these days on social media and I'm no

(07:22):
good unless I have a lot of likes, which is
a horrible way to live in a horrible way to
sort of go to sleep, no wonder. We can't sleep
if you're thinking about all the ways in which you're
not good enough. So that's why we do this weightlifting.
Thank you. Somebody just gave us the finger, not that one,

(07:42):
but this one. I'm happy to see people that are
tuned in now, Hello to my love streamers. If you'd
like to comment in the Cash youw gallery, please do
unless you're driving. If you're listening to me on the
AMFM side, please wait until you're somewhere save before you
chat with us. But feel free to have breakfast with

(08:05):
us too. With gratitudes and appreciation. So I appreciate that
I have the tenacity I guess to continue with this show.
One five hundred and nineteen podcast shows, thirteen and a

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half years, seven hundred and seven consecutive weeks is not
exactly easy, especially when you're doing it every day. But
I'm so so so appreciate that I do it because
it doesn't matter how. I'm in a really good mood
by the time I get done the show. So that's

(08:47):
what I like about myself. What do you like about yourself? Norman?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
What I like about myself is that I'm determined. I've
always been determined. I've always been someone that never likes
to give up, whether it's a game I'm playing or
the career I've chosen. And as you know, this entertainment
industry or you know, being on television, sometimes you can
be a little tough and sometimes you have, like your

(09:14):
your ups and downs. But I've always told myself and
I think that, you know, with my faith and with
you know, a very very supportive family and a very
good network of people, I've been able to always just
been able to see the light ahead and to never
just you know, give in to you know, to defeat awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, where the light at the end of the tunnel
is not that of an oncoming train, but it is
that light of hope and and yeah, so so that's
how we do breakfast here on the show. I would
encourage all of y'all to continue this good life habit,
this hashtag discipline, as my big brother Michael Rodard beck

(09:59):
With will call it, and you can do it with
me every weekday morning here on. Take my advice. I'm
not using a git balance with Doctor Marissa The Morning
Show live every weekday morning at nine am Pacific time
on my YouTube TV channel. But in the meantime, thank
you for joining us for Breakfast run one. I appreciate

(10:30):
my ability to laugh at myself affect and eighty eight
percent of the time I'm fabulous and twelve percent of
the time I step in it. And that was an
accidental step. But nothing like a little good wake up
music too. So the topic of the day today is

(10:57):
Norman King, the fourth You are the topic of the
day and getting to know you. As I said, what
is it not? Turnabout? Is fair play? Almost said four play?
That wasn't what I meant, turn about is fair play?

(11:18):
And I'm talking like it's Friday already. It is Tuesday. Okay.
Every once in a while I get a little Freudian slippy,
so that was probably it. I have my thirty ninth
first date scheduled for tonight, so that's a little yes

(11:39):
where my mind is in. And let's just start with
that just for fun. Because we heard in the bio
what you're doing professionally, and to read his bio you
would think he's, you know, just young looking. He's actually young,
he shared with me in my interview. Maybe we'll give

(12:01):
something away to the first good guests on the chat,
but he definitely is as young as he looks and
has already accomplished a lot. So we'll start with that one.
Did you know when you were born? Usually I say
when you're young, but it was not long that you
would be doing what you are doing that you're doing today.

(12:24):
Did you know?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I did.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I always knew since I was a very very young
child and I was always writing scripts. I was always
you know, very creative as a very very young child,
and I was always writing like television pilots in my journal.
So I started editing from a very very young age,
probably probably like age nine or ten on like Adobe Premiere,

(12:51):
making just a little clips or it's making like little
short films. And I always told myself that I'm going
to be big one day, and I'm going to you know,
be successful in this entertainment industry. And there was nothing
else that I ever wanted to do. I didn't want
to be a doctor. I didn't want to be a lawyer.
I didn't want to be you know, a scientist. That

(13:13):
was boring to me. This is what I was made
to do.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay. Did you grow up in California?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I did not. I grew up in the Washington DC area.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, So so in the triangle you were in, you
were born in d C? Did your parents You said
you had supportive parents. So you said I want to
be a filmmaker and they said, we're one hundred percent
behind you.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yes, absolutely, Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
So kudos to the parents. Hold on. In Chinese we
celebrate the parents a lot. When the kid has a birthday,
we also celebrate the parents. So that's for your parents.
What are their names?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Their names are Wendy and Norman.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And they live in d C. Now, yes they do, okay?
And are they in the industry?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
They're not all. No, they're business owners, but they're not
in the industry.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay. Did you know that? I was one of Women's
History Month specials in the DC? Fox DC did a
special emy w Nah, you didn't know that, so I'll
have to send that to you. Maybe your parents thought it.
But yeah, so okay, so you're East coast transplanting to

(14:34):
the West coast? Uh? Where did you work for us?
I'm being distracted. There's a blimp. I've never seen a
blimp outside my window. Wow, I have the blinds on it,
says Marty. And that's the name of my bonus dad. Oh,

(14:55):
it's too late to take up. Wow, that was weird.
He just got out of the hospital. He's ninety. He's
going to be ninety six on next Friday.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So yeah, and I talked about him on Veterans Day. Wow.
That was a do do do?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Do?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
What caught moment? What are the chances of that?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
So?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Where were we? Your parents? Washington, d C? Do you
have siblings?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I was raised an only child.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Actually, okay, so so okay, well that does I won't
say any thing about the stereotypes, but certainly you you
know how to entertain yourself?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I do? I do?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I keep busy exactly. And and then how did you
get your first job? Just curious? PBS is a great
place to start. Yes, So how did that happen?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah? Absolutely? It was an amazing transition from my internship.
So I was right out of college. I started my
internship at w e T A, the station in Washington,
d C. And after my internship, I was actually promoted
to associate, So I became like a full time assistant
to the executive producer for documentaries and podcasts and other

(16:19):
special projects. Wow.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That is that is you were definitely made for that.
The path was easy. Now what did you study in school? Film?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I'm guessing yes, I studied film and art. So I
have a dual degree in film and art from Emerson
College and Paris College of Art.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Wow. So you went to Paris to study art?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I did?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I did.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I went there to study art and film. So I
was studying filmmaking, French New Wave, all different types of
you know, art history. We were able to you know,
live in the Netherlands for a little bit as well
to study Rembrandt and all these different you know painters
that were all over Europe and over the world. Really
it was it was a really beautiful experience. Italian Espio.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
What was the last one?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Like Russian? Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I thought you said huge? Uh incredible but true? And
uh who hearted? Neither?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Uh? And uh do do a no no no do
stato vita Italian you say, do say sympatico. Okay, that's
it for the Italian. I dated a guy from Cecilia. Yes,

(18:06):
so that means where have you been all of my life?
So that's pickup line. Obviously I didn't last with him. Yes,
he shock me when I got in studio, his studio
with Somemandarin John. So so the multi lingual aspect of

(18:28):
your your bio, it we just got the evidence of that.
So that's really great. That's really great.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You you you know there's people that you meet that
you sort of feel drawn or vibe with you. Definitely
you and I definitely did that the very first time, uh,
when one sent me over to your studio. So that
was very cool. And we talked NonStop for did hour.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Right over and I mean the camera kept rolling and rolling.
It was amazing. I mean we could be there all day.
But you know, and we're very busy here in Los Angeles,
so if we didn't have any busy schedules, I feel
like we would have been there for like five hours,
maybe days.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, he kept asking and I kept answering. So yeah,
I yesterday I went looking for the interview and it's
not done yet. I'm like, wait a minute, I broke
my rule, so you're gonna have to wait to see it.
I usually play a little bit of it, but people

(19:37):
have heard enough of me. But yeah, that's like super cool. Uh,
so only child knew you want to Oh Paris, did
you obviously you went to see the louver?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I did? I did before it was robbed.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yes, did you know that the architect is my father's cousin.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
You told me about this?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Actually okay, I didn't know if I had told you.
But that's like super cool.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yes, that's awesome, and that's I mean, it's it's running
in through your veins, the creativity, and it's I mean,
that's just super cool to say that's your cousin. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah. He In many of his interviews, they asked him
where he got his inspiration from, and he said that
he would spend his summers at sidling in Shuzo, so
lion forest garden in su Chow, which is near Shanghai.

(20:37):
And uh, my my grandfather, so my dad's grandfather and
my and I AM's grandfather were brothers, and his side
of the family went into banking. Our side of the
family was in business and made a lot of money
in this kind of weird way that I'm not being interviewed,

(20:58):
so I won't tell you. And uh, the he brought
over coral structures that look like lions from the dead
sea and built this garden with all these statues around
it and so with a lake and everything, and it's

(21:19):
really beautiful. It's a tourist attraction, and so he spent
his summers there. So people think that that house is
i Ams, but it's actually my side of the family.
So when I got to bring my daughter there, we
were all treated like royalty, which is really cool.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, So what did you learn in Paris?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I learned a lot. Not only I learned about film,
but I learned a lot more about culture. I got
to meet so many more people, and not just you know,
working in the film industry, but I also got to
make lifelong friends. I was actually just there in September
visiting some of my best friends that still lived there
and Paris, and they work in fashion photography, so I

(22:02):
was there September as fashion week, and you know, they're
pretty busy during this time, and it's just beautiful. I
learned how to dress better, I would saying not I
never knew how to dress, but it's just that I
just I feel like I picked up some different items
there and I was able to learn more about fashion
and art, and I was also able to learn more

(22:24):
about cooking too, and you know, different food and stuff
like that. So it's a hub of you know, international cuisine.
So it was I was just always I was always
fortunate to have a really good meal.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes that is yeah, I love French food. It's one
of my favorites for sure. And these were students in
you know, your fellow students, right and then yeah, now
how do I coming back to America? Yes, what was

(22:57):
there any reverse culture shops?

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Okay, well, it was kind of weird having to not
speak French at restaurants anymore, you know, to people. So
it was kind of like adjusting my brain. I would say,
you know, not having to ask for directions or anything
in French. But it was a big culture shock, honestly,
other than the language too, Like just coming back home,

(23:22):
you know, to Washington, d C. And even going to
la it was actually really it was different like this,
the way that people dressed, the way that people's attitudes
were some times to certain things.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
It was.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
It was quite different. I would say that my experience
also as a black man, I would say living in France,
I would say I felt more relaxed there, and I
love my country. I love the United States. I love
a lot, but you know, it's I felt there was
a little more pressure politically, and I would say just

(23:57):
culturally here in the US. But nonetheless, it is nice
to be back. But I always love to visit France,
you know, every time every year.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
So you just put the moose on the table, which
is my here's my little moose. You heard me say
it in your interview. This is my Canadian I was
born in Canada, so my Canadian version of talking about
the elephants in the room. Yes, and you have international experience, traveling, living, working, learning.

(24:29):
What's the best thing that you appreciated about the French
in Paris? Your your experience, right, not speaking on behalf
of all young black men, but just your personal experience.
And then coming back, what's the best thing that you

(24:50):
noticed about American culture.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
I would say that it's a very good question, Thank you.
I would say that being in France and as a
black male, I think I noticed more of an open
mindedness towards my culture. Actually, not in the way that
was that's kind of being profited off of the culture,
but actual appreciation for things like jazz or for you know,

(25:21):
aspects of black culture or cuisine it's more taken in
as art instead of something that we can profit off of,
versus in the US. Coming back, it seemed more of
a very saturated kind of you know, we want to
you know, take some snippets of things and you know,
use minorities in their culture, but not actually rewarding them

(25:42):
and giving them, you know, the satisfaction of having created that.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
M hm. So I've let's talk put the moods on
the table. Racism, prejudice, there's a little bit of almost
back to the future feeling in our country right now.
I've also I lived in Brussels for two years and

(26:12):
Europe is not without its own prejudice. Right There's all
there's there's it's like this, will we ever in your
young experience, will we ever get to that place where
we don't look down on somebody based on you know,

(26:35):
the three things that we notice first, gender, uh, age
and race. Do you think that it's ever going to
be like that?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I mean, I hope so, I you know, I think
right now we're at a time where we're seeing everything
recorded on camera. So I think it's not that it's
getting worse, but maybe it's just that we're seeing everything
put on the Internet and we're seeing everything, I guess
broadcasted across the world. So that's why we notice it more.

(27:10):
And so it's it's not like, you know, one year,
like you know, racism wasn't there and then all of
a sudden it appeared again. No, it's always gonna you know,
it's always been there. Right now we just notice it more.
I hope that with you know, more open minded people,
and with more young people that are out there, especially creatives,
you know, making stories and you know, informing people, educating

(27:32):
people as the key education. I have hope that as
we educate more people, as the Internet becomes you know,
more expansive and we have more resources, you know, that
people start to become more well versed and helpful and empathetic.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, it is, that is the upside. And I love
talking about the benefits instead of always talking about the problems,
which which is what usually is on the headlines. And
social media has been you know, really criticized more so

(28:10):
than praised. And I love social media in the sense
that you know, it is a connective tissue that has
brought more of us together. It definitely has disadvantages, but
it all depends on how you are going to look
at it and what you are looking at and how

(28:31):
you're looking at it and what you're choosing to look at,
and you know it brings me back to a question
that you asked me, which I thought was a great question,
and I wanted to bring it up again because I
know that you are following the people that are looking
to you for for questions and answers and what you're

(28:53):
focused on. Uh, it is gen Z, which is the
ages what to what?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
So gen Z is if you were born after or
you're born nineteen nine seven or after night yet born
or born on the year nineteen nine seven or afterwards, Oka,
you are gen Z.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And that's both of my daughters. So they just made
that cut off. This whole time I was calling them
a millennial. I just have a tendency to just you know,
anybody younger than me is a millennial. Anybody older than
me is a baby boomer. So without telling everybody, hell

(29:34):
because I'm hashtag ageless, but specifically, gen Z is a population.
The one before gen Z is what.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Oh goodness, I believe there's.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
One between millennials and gen Z, or maybe even two.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
So well, I think it's gen Z. Millennial. But then
right after after gen Z is alpha. So I've heard,
so that's the newest and newest like generation.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
The ones that are baby to you. Yes, yes, okay,
So there isn't anything between gen Z and millennials.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I don't think, so, okay, I can research it and
find out they might come up with a new term.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's so funny how they come up with new terms
every single oh, yes, every single year.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And that is I think one of the things that's
different about you would ask me what's the difference between
the way people are treating mental health from baby boomers
to Gen Z. I'd like to explore that, and and
I see we're on break right now where I have

(30:41):
to pause for news, weather and traffic. But when we
come back, I want to talk about many of the
things that are seen sort of differently across the generations
because I've got an expert on that generation in studio today,
so we're going to come back. I also am going

(31:01):
to bring you a really important mini interview in the
break because it's a it's it's just a beautiful it's
my first astronaut that I've had in studio. But don't
go away, right after that, we'll be back with Norman
King the fourth here on. Take my advice, I'm not

(31:22):
using a Get balance with Doctor Marissa the Morning Show
here on k c A, the station that leaves no
listener behind. Don't go away, We'll be right back. We'll
be back in two and two after news, weather and traffic.

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(33:19):
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What is the motivation for this new book and how
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Speaker 5 (33:40):
Beyond Words it's really an extension of Affle's heartfelt mission
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Speaker 2 (33:50):
And this book.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Fills that empathy gap because we've all had friends or
family members who've gone through a challenging time and we
didn't know the right thing to say, and that's even
harder for kids. So this book helps them understand that
it's not always what you say that matters, but it's
what you do that makes you a good friend.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
That's beautiful. I love the illustrations that I just saw
as well, Absolutely gorgeous. Let's go to can you tell
us a little bit about the story and how it
relates to empathy and kindness.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yes, well, Buddy the Bear is very excited that his
friend Bunny is coming home from the hospital, but he's
nervous because, like most of us, he doesn't know exactly
what to say to make her feel better. So he
blasts off into space in his imagination and he visits
different planets where he meets new friends who help him

(34:48):
express love and friendship in ways beyond words.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Beautiful, Kelly, you're my first astronaut on the show Welcome
and this book takes place in space, which you've been
which explains a little bit about why you are part
of the book. What role have you played in this
great book?

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, this was.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Really a wonderful fit and I was so excited to
be involved. Athleck invited me to record the audio version
of this book as well as contribute the forward. And
I thought space was such a perfect vehicle for the message.
Cherry wrote this heartfelt story and about confronting the unknown
and the unfamiliar so bravely, and so I think space
was really the perfect backdrop for that message. And I

(35:37):
have an eight year old's daughter at home as well,
and I just knew from the moment that I read
the book that she would love it and benefit from
the message, as I think with readers of all ages.
With this reminder that you don't always have to have
the perfect words in order to show up for the
people that you love and care about.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's a great message. And eight it's a lucky number
in Chinese, just so you can tell your daughter it's
a homophone for good fortune. I know you thought I
was Swedish, but a little bit of Chinese trivia there.
So can you tell us more about the commitment to
helping children with cancer and blood disorders?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Absolutely? You know, most people don't realize that sixteen thousand
children each year are diagnosed with cancer in the US,
and that doesn't include the folks who are diagnosed with
blood disorders and sickle cell disease. This is a huge
number of families that need a lot of support on
multiple levels, including medical, emotional, and financial.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
That's why this impact is so incredible From AFLAC. This
is part of a really long standing commitment. Over the
last thirty years, they've donated nearly two hundred million dollars
towards this cause, which is just an incredible amount, and
the book is really an extension of that commitment because
one hundred percent of the net proceeds from Beyond Words

(36:57):
will go to support treatment and research for that are
navigating cancer and blood disorders. So know that when you
do buy this book, you're not just getting this beautiful story,
but you're also able to make a real impact for
real families in a real way.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
How beautiful is that. And for the work that both
of you are doing through this book and for AFLAC,
I'm giving you Doctor Maris's Beneficial Presence on the Planet Award.
I don't give it to all my guests, but certainly
I love to highlight and support these efforts to take

(37:34):
some darkness in the world and shed some light on
it in such a beautiful and colorful way. And especially
since my father passed from a blood cancer lymphoma, So
this is hitting me right in the heart in a

(37:54):
good way. And tears are the disinfectant that keep our
hearts soft. Thank you very much for coming and sharing
all of this great holiday gift as well. So where
do they go to get the book and for more information?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
You can purchase the book at AFLAC dot com slash
Beyond Words, where you will also find the beautiful audio
version recorded by Kelly.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
But there's also a lot of really fun content on
that site too, so do check it out.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
There's downloadable coloring pages.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
As well as a section where kids can write letters
of support encouragement to families who are navigating this right now,
which we thought was such a beautiful touch. So that's
a flac dot com slash Beyondwards.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
That is aflac dot com h slash beyond Words. Perfect gift.
You know, I'm sure someone who has a kid who's
going through this or a parent who knows someone. So
I expect you all to go and pick up that
book and help the kids beyond Words. Thanks so much,

(39:02):
Kelly and Sherry for coming on today. It's all about
Balance Piece and peace out world, peace through Inner Piece.
Thank you so much. Have the best day ever.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Thank you, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
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(39:56):
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I met It's funny. I actually met Quincy Jones' daughter
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(40:20):
honor Samuel Jackson. But it was funny. I met Quincy
Jones' daughter, Martina and told her that her father had
flirted with me, not once, but twice. In Mandarin, he said,
nihan piare lean, which means oh my gosh, what does

(40:43):
that mean? What does that? You know what that means?
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Oh my gosh. I want you to say it because
I'm not going to be the one.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh no, no, no, no, it's not bad. It's you're beautiful.
So he said. Uh. I interviewed him on two different
red covers and he said the same thing, and he
said he remembered me. So yes, I don't live with
many regrets, but the one I do live with is
I wish he had asked me out. So Anyways, we're
back in studio. If you saw that, it was such

(41:18):
a great interview to be able to talk to an astronaut,
my first one on the show. And the AFLAC project
actually is coming out of Ryan Crest Seacrest's foundation, a
book for children who have a blood disease, who have cancer.
It's called Beyond Words, so beautiful place to get your

(41:40):
holiday shopping done as well. So go to affleck dot
com hashtag beyond Words and we have in studio here
as you can see him not alone today it's hashtag
Tuesday talent. I invited him on the show because he
got to interview me and I was on his hot seat.
Turned about his fair play and so he is an

(42:05):
LA based now from the East Coast, originally filmmaker, host,
founder of founder and CEO of NK four LLC. He's
lived studied in Paris, where's Limberg.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Limburg is the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Ah Neiderlands directed several short films, worked for PBS, slash
w E t A, and served as head of social
media production for the Hollywood musical Adventures in the Great
Beyond You Saw or Heard. He was a multi lingual
artist and continues to write scripts for both TV and film,

(42:43):
and that means you can be a reader for me.
I am working on a screenplay called Life by a
Thousand Cuts, so you would be a good person to read,
and I'll do the same for you. We could just
swap reading. How's that? I love it? So we were
I promised that we would come back and talk about

(43:05):
some of the divide and bridging the divide and understanding
how generational differences really impact the way we relate to
each other and the way we value each other. So
I'm going to put the moose on the table about
some stereotypes that olders have of some youngers, and I

(43:26):
want you to do the same and put the moose
on the table to do that, and let's have a
real conversation about this. So I'm going to go ahead
and just start and say, I work as an executive coach,
as a corporate psychologist with my degree in organized PhD
and organizational psychology, and one of the biggest complaints that
I hear is the younger workforce these days. I don't

(43:50):
understand how they just don't care nothing's important except their
own selfish needs. I'm put in the big who's on
the table. Uh I don't think this, but I have
heard it. Uh that they have no sense of commitment.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
They don't want to work late. They don't care that
a project has a deadline. Uh. They're more concerned with
enjoying their lives and going on uh vacations they can't
even afford. Uh. They they they really are disrespectful. Uh.
They don't respect my position at work. They they're spoilt.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
They they complain a lot, They whine a lot. Uh,
they're always worried. Uh. They they have this fatalistic Well
you know, there's gonna be no more planet, so uh
who cares? Why bother? Uh you're you're You're absolutely right.
I have to be selfish because no one else is
gonna look out for us. And look what you've done

(44:55):
to our planet. And UH don't dare. Uh I'm on
a role. Don't criticize us because you guys started it. Okay, So.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
That does a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
So does any of that sound familiar to you? Okay,
you hear the sirens. The sirens come when whatever I've
said is particularly true.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Well, what you're saying, I mean, listen, I've heard the
same what you just said. I've heard that like repeat
it so many times, especially about you know gen Z
and workforce and not to say, yes, there may be
a few gen Z that are you know, entitled, But
at the same time, I think we're a very innovative

(45:46):
generation and we find new ways of working that actually
save time. So we'd like to work smarter, not harder.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Okay, So before we go to the positive, I want
you to balance out and give me the stereotype and
the group difference and the down negative side, just like
I have of you about us. I mean I started
it with the we've ruined the planet, but go ahead,

(46:14):
bring it on, and this is not you, but this
is what you've heard.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
This is what I've heard. Okay. So like what a
gen Z person would say about the old generation, right,
like the baby Boomers. Okay, well basically they'd be like, oh,
like I'm gonna use my gen Z voice, like as
an actor. So oh they're so backwards, They're very like
they're so slow about everything, and like they don't know

(46:39):
how to do anything. They always they have no sense
of like technology they have. They're very old fashioned and
what else. They are all biggots. They're all like I
don't want to listen to anything they have to say,
because they all think the same and they're all very

(47:00):
closed minded, and I know more than them. That's not
me saying that. That's like, you know, like a typical
gen Z person saying that. So I'm trying to think
of some other things that.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I was more brutal. Come on, you gotta you were
more brutal. Yes, I was more brutal, So let me
be brutal. Back to myself. Although I consider myself part
of the Sandwich generation, which is between the two of y'all, right,
we're the ones trying to relate to both and connect
right and and and teach the older ones how to

(47:36):
use the remote and then also uh coach the younger
ones on how to you know, not be so worried
or chill out a little bit, or not take everything
so seriously. But I will say, you know, the older
ones can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Some of them just have to die. They're not going
to change their mind. Uh that's pretty brutal. How's that? Yes? Okay, So,
and again this is not what we are thinking, but
this is what's out there. And the reason why I
do this is I want to keep it real, number one.
And if we don't keep it real, then we have
no way to work towards the solution. So I'm digging

(48:18):
up all of the chataki right now, okay, And then
now I'm going to turn around and treat the shataki
so it becomes fertilizer. All right, So you started to
do that, continue, so yes, you'll own what are some

(48:42):
of the things that you'll own about the younger generation
that is true and not necessarily a compliment? And I'll
do the same, okay. So for example, yes, the older
generationation is more closed minded, and and there's a reason

(49:06):
when we went to school. And I'm not saying I'm
in the older I still I'm in I'm ageless, and
I'm in the sandwich. But I'm going to speak in
the voice of I hear you as an actress. Yes,
because we older baby boomers grew up in a time
in our education system we didn't have is it A, B, C,

(49:32):
D or E all of the beve We didn't have
all of the above. We had is it A or B?
What is the right answer? There was no waffling, there
was no gray area. It was either right or wrong, good, bad,
what category does it go into. This generation has too

(49:52):
much gray. I hate the word depends literally, I hate
the you know, you know, you can't make up your mind,
you can't waffle. You have to take a stand. And
that leads to that ornary reputation of can't teach an
old dog new tricks. But to have a little compassion

(50:14):
and understanding that the older generation really did grow up
being reinforced for that attitude. Yeah, yeah, does that make sense.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
It makes a lot of sense. There was you know,
you had to pick a box. Those are the you know,
that's the box generation.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
You know, yes, you know what is the answer, right vers?

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Yeah, my generation Gen Z and younger they want we
I guess I could say we we we want to
break every single box and destroyed the forms. In the
first place, that's right.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
To challenge to say no, yes, but right in our
general in the older generation, yes, but was not a
good thing. You didn't want to be an outlier. You
wanted to be the majority. So when people start going, uh,

(51:15):
I'm a vegan, I don't eat that, or I don't
like this, and the first response was, well, darling, you
ain't the majority. You got no say and quip being weird,
you know, join the majority and uh and uh, And
there's no pride in being an outlier, whereas in the

(51:37):
younger generation it's almost a matter of pride to be
the one that says, yes, but right, you're valued or
you see yourself of more value if you push against
what is or or the status quo. So of course
you're going to have conflict. Of course you're going to
have uh, you know, just a complete breakdown in communication

(52:03):
because neither one can see the value in the other
side of it. So my solution always is, can we
find something in common as a vision, which is why
I don't talk about politics. It's divisive, but happiness is uniting,

(52:26):
and if I am a divisive I only reach half
of the people to try to emphasize happy. Right, And
here's something for you guys to use. We watched your
generation work your entire lives to the bone, and now

(52:49):
you're sick and you can't even enjoy your vacations. So
I'm going to enjoy my vacations. Now. I'm going to
take time off without pay, because it is not my
desire to wait until I'm sick to enjoy what I've made. Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah,

(53:13):
and my older coaching for the younger is your insistence
on doomsday thinking, worst case scenario, life sucks will bring

(53:34):
you more evidence of that. I know I'm preaching to
the choir with you. I know you do this with
your podcast and with your friends as well and your audience.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
About Oh yeah, a lot of these type of conversations
all the time.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yes, the insistence of worst case scenario for both the
older and the younger will bring us all down because
we are collective energy, and the more that you focus
on whatever it is, good or bad will grow bigger.
So all of the worrying that's going on with everything. Yes,

(54:16):
it's important to look at how we're contributing to the environment,
for sure, right, But at the same time, can we
hold the space that mother nature also has been around
a whole lot longer than we have and has regenerative
systems that is doing the work right. And if we
can focus on what is working and the organizations that

(54:40):
are doing a good job instead of complaining and marching
and protesting about all those things that we cannot change,
maybe there's more solution.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah, we got to be optimistic about things. Less, I
would say less pessimistic, and I think it's it's good
that if you lead with positivity, then positive outcome is
going to happen. There's like a saying like if you
worship worrying, it's like, you know, it's like you know,

(55:13):
you want something bad to happen, and you worry, but
if you want something good to happen, then you think
those positive things and those positive things come to you.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Native Americans saying is that one.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Yes, yes, worry.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Is a prayer for bad things to happen.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
What's your motto in life? What is your legacy that
you want to leave in seventy years? Like this, he's
you're twenty three or twenty four? Did you just turn
Did you just have a birthday since I talked to you?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
No, I had my birthdays in April, so yes, I'll
be twenty five. It's coming April, so it's approaching actually soon.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
What's your birth date?

Speaker 4 (56:05):
April? Second?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Okay, go ahead? What were you saying your legacy? I
want I'm looking something up right now, but okay, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Oh my god, are you looking up my birthday?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
This is this is what? This is a really cool book.
I was born, guess what day I was born?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
You were born.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
The day of the velvet voice. Velvet voice, isn't that crazy?
I mean velvet voice radio singing you were born April second,
on the day, Oh my god, the day of the Idealist.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Oh that sounds critical.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
The ideal lists largely because of this characters that they
may have problems getting to where they want to go
in their careers. That's not true. Sometimes naive view of
the world, embraced by their childlike nature does not always
compliment a hard driving urge to succeed. Only after finding
purpose in life, which you have, and accepting the limitations,

(57:11):
perhaps even reconciling, they're able to utilize their considerable energy
to the fullest. Your strengths are honest, since you're in
hard working, and your weaknesses are naive, repressed, and unaware,
which I don't think is very accurate. But I do
think the accurate is the day of the Idealist, which

(57:31):
is a good thing. I think it works for you.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
I think it does. I love the idealist name. That's
a good name. We got to come up with the TV
show maybe for.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
That maybe maybe, And we're out of time, but that
was really fun. What's the final word? You want to give.
You've got two seconds?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Yeah, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Well.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
First of all, when thank you Doctor Marissa for having
me on today. And I want you all to check
out the new episode of Meet and Makers featuring Doctor
Marissa's coming this week. It will be out on Friday,
and it will be featuring me interviewing the lovely lady here,
miss doctor Marissa, and talking about all things mental health

(58:14):
and entertainment and all of those things in between as well.
So check it out. It's gonna be all on Instagram, YouTube,
and TikTok. It's going to be at Norman King IVY Productions.

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