KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa (Wed, 26 Nov, 2025)

KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa on Wed, 26 Nov, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Stump off an exhausting amster wheel and into balance. Living
with Doctor.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Marissa from Miss Joy mis.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Doctor Marisa, also known as the Asian Oprah. Her mission
to be a beneficial presence on the planet, Her purpose
to be your personal advocate, to live, lap love, learn
her life motto, don't die wondering. Take back your life
with Doctor Maurica Pey.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And welcome your tuned to take my advice. I'm not
using it. Get balanced with Doctor Marissa in the morning
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Sports Radio station A M ten fifty FM one oh
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(01:17):
I'm on a happy eighty eight mission, eighty eight million
more happy people in the next eight years. And certainly
you will not be happy if you wake up and
start doing this MS meaningless scrolling or turning on the
news because it will give you the four A syndrome, anxious, angry, afraid,
and aggravated. Don't want that, want you to feel amazing,

(01:40):
So I want you instead to tune in here now
in my seven hundred and seventh consecutive week. But who's
counting one thy five hundred and nineteen podcast shows over
the last three hundred, sorry, thirteen and a half years,
And I'm so grateful y'all are still here. It's nothing
better than doing my intro and having a heart come

(02:00):
in from my Cashew gallery. I see eyeballs starting to
roll in. You know where to come when it is
time to start your day. And y'all know it must
be Wednesday, because you do see in studio the beautiful
inside and out Doctor Tiffany Tate. She's a US Navy veteran,

(02:22):
published author, retired oh BG hy n from Comtink, California, playwright, singer, poet, songwriter,
and so much more. Published author of many books, including
many important children's books that I love, and her latest
hat being thrown the ring is she's running for Congress.

(02:44):
Please welcome back to my studio door, Tiffany Day.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Happy Wednesday, everyone, oh, let's.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Get right to it.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Are you hungry? Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yes, time take a bite of our gratitude sandwich. That's
how I start every weekday morning on the air. By
the way, while I remember, guess who is back in
her slot? This goes to casey aa a week later
and usually I mean I was at eight am drive time?

(03:28):
Did well? Brought the numbers up. They moved me to nine,
brought those numbers up. Now I get to go back
to eight am drive time. So if you're wondering why
I'm not at nine, it's because I'm at eight. So
eight's a lucky number in Chinese, a homophone for good fortune.
So I'm so happy that I get to chat at
you as you drive into work, that you're gonna find

(03:51):
some good things to love because you love everything around you,
because you're taking a bite of the gratitude sandwich. What
are you grateful for? The button as you look around,
bottom of the button is what do you like about yourself?
What are you grateful for inside yourself? What we want
you to do before you go to bed tonight. So,
doctor Tiffany, what are you grateful for?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I am still having a good time, you know, last
time we talked about being veteran, being a veteran, and
I am still floating high because of my service to
the United States Military. I left as a lieutenant commander
of the Navy, and we did a show and we

(04:36):
were talking about the different ranks, and it was great
because one of my fellow veterans was like, Tiffany, I
think you oversimplified it. And I think one of the
key things I did not state was that when we
talked about the enlisted and the officer ranks, among the
different branches, is that the e's and the o's they
get paid the same, but among the different branches they

(04:59):
have different names. So say, for instance, an O six
and an O three they will have different names. So
say an O three might be considered a captain, but
an O six is a captain. Uh is a is
a captain in a different in different branches. So they're

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different things in different branches. So O three and in
an Army Marine, Air Force, in the Space Force, is
is different versus a klonel in the Army Marines and
the Air Force. So you have to look at it very,
very differently. So they got schooled, well, no, not necessarily

(05:47):
to they said, I just I oversimplified it. And when
when people go to Officer and Doctor Nations school, they
go there for weeks. And I was literally trying to
sum it up in and basically a one hour show,
and they were like, well, the main thing was that
you want to try to basically respect the oh, the O,

(06:10):
the officer and doctrination number. So like we have generals,
and we have admirals and vice admirals like the nine
and the O tens and so like uh O ten
is a general in the army, the Marines and the
Space Force, but it's a vice admiral and an admiral
in the navy, and so they have different names for

(06:33):
the different branches, right and so.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And you don't have to feel bad because I would
have never been able to retain all of that detail. Yes,
what we did do on Veterans Day, I thought was
brilliant because it gave enough for me to go I
have and that's why I wanted us to do it,
is I learned so much. So thank you for all
of the information that you did give us an inside look.

(06:57):
And uh I I'm kind of glad you didn't do
that much detail because I would have been lost.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
So that I'm just one of the distincuitions between the
e's and the o's and the difference between the one
versus the O ten, because a lot of people might
think of oh, one is better than an O ten,
and that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Got it, got it. I am grateful that the sun's
back out. I love I'm solar powered, and I just
love I know the sun's always shining somewhere, even when
it's raining over here. And that song and it never
rains in southern California is a lie. But I'm grateful

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that we didn't have like a horrific amount of consequence.
They did a lot of good preparation with keeping the
hills from you know, moving into the ocean and things
like that. This time. I am grateful that our infrastructure
and the public works are doing a lot of good

(08:01):
work to help California stabilize after the fires, especially when
there's great So I'm grateful.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, I am grateful that I am a rotarian and
I had the opportunity to attend dinner with the district
governor for our area as well as my first Rotarian gala,
so I had a chance to learn a lot more

(08:30):
about the district and a lot of good that we do,
and I'm just enjoying what we do in the community
because I am committed to service and I'm just doing what.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
We do awesome. I am so grateful that my daughters
are coming in on Monday. They're driving down from San
Francisco to see their mama for Thanksgiving, and I'm taking
the turkey out. I know a lot of you think
I don't cook and I only make a lot of reservations,
but I make a killer turkey and it's not my recipe.

(09:05):
It's a from my manicurist friend that I've been going
to for twenty seven years and it involves grape soda.
So message me if you like this a very tender
turkey recipe. But having my two daughters here, I'm just
so excited to have them come in and ah. And

(09:28):
then last gratitude for me that my bonus dad is
turning ninety six on Friday, on Black Friday, so yeah,
and we talked about him. He's also a veteran for
the Korean War, so yeah, but I'm very grateful. All right,

(09:50):
let's go to the bottom of the butte. Doctor Tiffany,
what do you like about yourself.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I like the fact that I can be encouraging because
a lot of times people are not able to encourage others,
and people need to be supportive, and a lot of

(10:20):
people want support themselves, but they don't want to support others.
And I like the fact that I am able to
support others. I know I have leadership abilities and it's
easy to lead. Now other people may say, no, it's
not easy to lead. I find it easy to lead.

(10:41):
I actually enjoy being a leader. But I think it's
also good to uplift and support others and be a
follower at times as well. And I like the fact
that I am able to do that.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Awesome. That's partially because we're both recovering control freaks. That
makes a good qualification for leadership. I forgot to mention
the reason why we do this, and I would say
this is just as important as gratitude is because a
lot of us grew up with well meaning, sometimes more

(11:14):
mean than well parents who said, don't toot your own horn,
or you're not all that, and it's created generations of
people who can't approve of themselves. And so I've been
on this not high horse, but on this platform for
over a year now, starting with teaching leadership, Success and
Happiness at UCLA. They brought me back for that course

(11:38):
because personal mastery, your ability to feel like you are
important on your own without people telling you you're important,
is such an important quality and ability for good mental health,
and that I am grateful that I'm not perfect at it.

(11:58):
Perfectionism will guarantee you that you don't feel good enough,
So I'm a recovering perfectionist. I know that I can
be happy now, not I'll be happy when. But I
appreciate my ability not only to recognize this as a
disease of our most of us. You know, fame and
fortune is really not the answer to happiness. Ask Robin

(12:22):
Williams and Kate Spade and Anthony Boord Dade, who are
in a better place right now for them, however, you know,
the whole rat race. Who wants to be in a
rat race? I never understood that, but anyways, doggy dog like,
come on, But I appreciate my ability to understand that

(12:42):
and also to be able to communicate that pretty much
every day in my life. Last gratitude, doctor Tiffany, what grateful? Oh? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh yeah, I like the fact that I am a
problem solverer because as a physician, I spent over two
decades being a problem solver, and when patients came in
the room, I spent over two decades listening. And you
have to be patient to actually listen and use deductive

(13:12):
reasoning to take the time and problem solve. And you
have to be patient, and you have to be understanding,
and you have to be able to get to the
root of the problem without interjecting and interrupting. And I
think you have to be able to communicate well. And

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I like the fact that I'm able to use those
skills even to this day. And that's very important.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And that's exactly why she's the one with the MD
and I have the PhD. No patience, don't like to listen.
Thank you so much for joining us for breakfast. I
don't see anybody joining us today in the chat. They're
probably driving. Please don't chat if you're driving, but come
back every weekday morning on this show, we start with

(14:03):
breakfast because it's so important to eat gratitude and appreciation
every day so you can have a positive sandwich day.
Thanks for joining us for breakfast. Now for the topic
of the day.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
In the day, knowledge and wisdom, wisdom and knowledge, knowledge
versus wisdom, wisdom versus knowledge.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
H Did you see my promo? Yes?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I thought it was very cute.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You have you ever been called a mss wise as
set or mister nowadall? That's my version of wisdom and knowledge.
So why are we talking about this, doctor titty?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well? In an age where information is everywhere and knowledge
is easy to find, but wisdom seems harder than ever
to come by. Today, I wanted to explore the difference
between knowing something and truly understanding it, between collecting facts

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and living truthfully.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So very nice to.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Make you go hmmm hm, and what are you going
to do with this information? Smack it, flip it up,
rub it down? Ah.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I just love that expression, especially coming out of her mouth.
That's pretty funny, uh, because usually it's my wiser asset.
I almost said it all right, So we love it
when you integrate and give us your eight cents worth

(16:07):
in the chat on this. That's what we're talking about today,
wisdom and knowledge. I know that I keep it real,
so I would say that I work with a lot
of people who think they know it all, and it
is completely different than wisdom wisdom. I associate the word
association is King Solomon and the baby that was going

(16:31):
to get cut in half that story. And also the
serenity prayer. I love the serenity prayer because it really
keeps me from stepping in it and those who don't know.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I
cannot change, which I don't do well. I'm a doer,

(16:53):
I'm an actor, So the courage to change the things
I can is the one I usually have to back
off because I am the one that wants to change
you or it or the situation. And then the wisdom
to know the difference to balance out when to hold
and when the fold. So you know, the.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Interesting thing is that you can google a good answer,
but you cannot google good judgment.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Ooh, I like that that was smacked up the side right, okay, okay,
And that's a good distinguishing point. I mean wisdom and knowledge,
and I think our school system emphasizes knowledge, not necessarily wisdom.

(17:48):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Can you teach wisdom? That is interesting because wisdom is
It's like, is wisdom just applied knowledge or is it
something else entirely? And you have to look at it
this way. When you are at a job or if

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you're having in a relationship, whether it's a friendship with
your family or with your partner, you can know things,
but how do you put it into practice? So if
you know that your partner's love language is time or

(18:33):
communication and you intentionally don't apply that, you're making an
active decision. So that's a choice you can't do you
do you want to invest the time to teach it?
Do you want to keep saying I want this, I

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want this, I want this, so you don't necessarily teach it.
These are choice, These are decisions, So that's that's not
necessarily teaching. These are choices. So it's kind of like
the nature of knowledge. So knowledge as data or information

(19:15):
or a learned skill.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, I do corporate consulting and I work with leaders
and they complain about somebody that's not following their directions
or not performing up to snuff. My first question is
it a will issue or a skill A skill issue
you can train, a will issue you cannot train. So

(19:40):
that is uh, you know that when you were speaking
that that triggered that, And it's absolutely you can know
what your partners love languages. But if you don't have
the will or the choice, as you're saying, to apply
that knowledge, then the knowledge is useless.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
H So that's the the knowledge versus the wisdom versus
the application of it, and so these are that's where
the choice. So it's it's about choice. So you can decide, Okay,
knowledge is justified true belief or and that's like basically

(20:27):
according to Plato, that's that's his perspective. So knowledge is
justified true belief. That's his knowledge is justified, is a
justified true belief. And that's that's Plato's perspective. But in
terms of what we want to think and how we

(20:50):
want to apply it to our lives, knowledge is just information,
and how do we want to utilize that information. It's
all a matter of perspective and how you want to
apply it. So say, for instance, you and I we
make plans, you know, and then mom Ty comes along

(21:10):
and is like, okay, Tiffany, I'm closer to you than
doctor Marissa, and I know you already have plans with
doctor Marissa. Kick doctor Marissa to the curve. And because
i'm Momty, I usurp doctor Marissa and she she feels
at my heart strings right, and so yeah, I know

(21:32):
bad Monty right. So now I have this knowledge. Now
I have two dates on the same day, and so
I have all this these this knowledge, I have all
these data points. How do I want to utilize this knowledge?
Time is finite, I don't have infinite time. I have

(21:54):
all this knowledge. Now how do I want to utilize
this knowledge? How do I want to apply this knowledge?
And how do I want to change it? And how
do I want to utilize my experiences and change my
life with the data points to make it applicable and

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use it in a wise fashion?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So I can do So what would you do? So?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't want to hurt your feelings. I don't want
to hurt her feelings, and I want to be respectful
to both of you. Yes, so it depends on if
I can try to bring you both together. And chances
are I can.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Not anymore with this situation Mom.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yes, yes, yes, so chances are these these are conflicting
events and there's no way that these two events can
can coincide because because I'm going to have to cancel
on one of you. So she's our he played the
mom card, and so now I'm gonna have to let
you down. And you've already said you hate people to

(23:06):
cancel at the last nu I already know this about you.
So now I have this explosion of knowledge and I'm
gonna have to cancel on you and tick you off.
And so now I'm saying, Okay, Doc, this is what
I have with mom te So now this is this

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is the situation I have. So it is what it
is at this point, and I'm just gonna have to
deal with the fallout.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
But I have to take mom Tea over me like
that is just the way it is.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Unfortunately, because I have to live with her, I live
around the corner from her. I don't live around the
corner from you now.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But yeah, but you're a co host on the show.
This is like a professional decision as well. Yes, yes,
even though you made this up, you're gonna be in
trouble now, yes, yes, creating a conflict between mom Ty
who loves me and I love her, you can blame or.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Actually or maybe I'll make you both go together and
then I'll take her ticket. Who knows, I'll make you
suffer together and I'll take her ticket. So either way,
some either way, somebody is going to be ticked off.
But but but either way you deal with with something
that's there's going to be a negative fallout one way

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or another. But you try to make the best of
the situation based on your experiences and based on the
knowledge that you have. But there's going to be a
negative fallout.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So the knowledge is that I know what ticks people off,
I know what makes people happy. The wisdom is I
cannot make everybody happy all the time, and that I
have the wisdom to not beat myself up when I

(25:04):
cannot be everything to everyone, and when someone's pissed off
at me, I have to be wise enough to not
take it personally, which is why Don Miguel's book The
Four Agreements was brilliant and so well received. Is this
kind of wisdom is not taught in school, This type

(25:28):
of wisdom is not taught at home formally, right, depending
on where your parents are, depending on how balanced they
are and what kind of upbringing they had. Right. So
that's a really good distinction between knowledge and wisdom.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yes, Because there's a quote that says knowledge comes from learning,
but wisdom comes from experience, comes from living. So it
comes from experience.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yes, That's why I asked the question can you teach wisdom?
And there's a there's there's I mean, I think some
people like King Solomon, or some people who have the
nature of predisposition towards like my daughter Sarah. You know,
she was uh at the age of like seven or eight,

(26:26):
she was nominated by all her peers as the bullybuster
in her class. She got awards for uh you know
uh uh literature and and peacemaking and and and be
able to She has that predisposition towards wisdom. The old

(26:46):
soul is another expression for those who kind of are
born with some little bit of predisposition towards wisdom. But yes,
I think you can learn it. And yes, unfortunately, you know,
it's the school.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Of hard knocks that teaches you wisdom, probably more effectively
than a smooth kind of upbringing.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like knowledge is the map, but
wisdom is the direction on the road of life. And
as you continue to experience different things, you learn how
to navigate friendships, you learn how to navigate relationships, You
learn how to navigate situations on your job and in school,

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because when you are in school and you deal with
different situations with professors and with different classmates and just
in general, you tend to experience different things and it
helps you navigate and it helps you learn to communicate.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Absolutely. It's like, yeah, knowledge is the map, and wisdom
is to actually pull the dang thing out to use it,
you know. And it's that that Again, it threw me
back into the consulting I do as an organizational psychologist.
There's technical IQ, right, there's content knowledge, content expertise, and

(28:20):
then there's process wisdom or process expertise, which speaks to
the emotional IQ. Right, that whole emotional technique. Emotional intelligence
has to be married to technical intelligence, otherwise you've got

(28:43):
a lot of the best example is car salesman. They're
really good at sales, they're really good at that. Technical
ability engineers, they're really good at finance people great with numbers.
And I get pulled in all the time to those
three kinds of settings because they may be technically brilliant,

(29:05):
but they're emotionally challenged as far as interpersonal effectiveness, and
they make the worst kind of managers. They know the content,
but they are clueless when it comes to working with
people and the interpersonal emotional intelligence that is required. So
there's another wisdom versus knowledge.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Absolutely, and it's something that also distinguishes us from artificial
intelligence because we have that emotional component that distinguishes us
from a bot. And so it's that human connection that
helps us. So I think that that's important as well.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm thinking of you know those are where
scared or like think AI is a new thing. We've
been using artificial intelligence a long long time and it's
not always good. You know, the automatic flushes and you know,

(30:09):
sticking your finger. I can't stand the sinks now because
I cannot seem to get it working. That Like, artificial
intelligence makes me feel stupid when it comes to things
like that. But anyways, I digress. It is time to
take a quick break for news weather Traffic on my

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Speaker 3 (31:00):
And doctor Tiffany Tate.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
Hello. My name is doctor Tiffany Tate and I am
running for the United States House of Representatives in California's
fortieth district. It is time to have more physicians in Congress.
There are only twenty one physicians currently in Congress, serving
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I served as a General Medical Officer in the United

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Speaker 8 (33:41):
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Speaker 10 (35:54):
A doctor Tiffany Taked and what are we talking about today?
We are talking about about knowledge and wisdom people, and we.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Have had quite the illumination. I think we're getting better
now in distinguishing between the two.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Did you go through all your research? No, basically, absolutely not.
There was a twenty eighteen study that most Americans, they
consider actually about sixty five percent of Americans believe that

(36:33):
they are more intelligent than the average American. So they
don't really look at themselves as being wise, They just
feel that they are more intelligent. And so I thought
that that was pretty interesting because they look at their
perception of things as a proponent of being wise, because

(37:00):
wisdom in and of itself is something more difficult to pinpoint.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And so.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I thought that when you look at how they broke
it down, that was that was interesting. And in Washington,
d c. Fifty four percent of Americans identify themselves as
being up in that percentage, And so when they broke

(37:30):
it down intelligence versus wisdom, it was it says the
belief in higher than average intelligence, not wisdom, which is
more complex trait involving good judgment, experience, and deep understanding.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So forty two point seven percent of statistics are made
up on the spot. So does distinguish between knowledge, Someone
will come to you and say, did you see the
latest whatever? Did you know that? And that may be
you know what's being broadcast or what's being shared, or

(38:08):
what's posted or what's.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Announced in the news.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And then the wisdom is, oh, that is someone's biased study, right,
because there's no such thing as unbiased research. It's called
it's called researcher bias or observer bias. Anytime you're looking
at anything, you're going to have a bias. So the

(38:33):
wisdom these days and let me do a real good
practical application to believe everything you hear and see, maybe
knowledge that you can spout off and call someone or
share it. The wisdom is to check first where this

(38:55):
is coming from. I don't think that as something we
had to think about maybe how many hundred of years ago, right,
So breaking news was breaking news. Now when I hear
breaking news, it's just, oh, someone wants us to be angry, anxious, afraid,
or aggravated, because that's going to tie our eyes and

(39:18):
our attention and our focus on that news story that
is continuing to run over and over and over again,
so that we'll be there to listen to the commercials.
That's why news is if it bleeds. It leads. Yeah,
that's the wisdom to know that, you know what, I
got things to do today. I hear the headlines, I

(39:40):
know that it's going to take at least eight hours
to get the details to answer the question why did
that person shoot that person? It's really not helpful in
my own life to sit in front of the TV
now and watch the nine to eleven plane go into
the building for forty eight hours and not take a bath,
or not feed my kids, or not do the things

(40:03):
that I know I can and are part of my
life without being distracted. Media the weapon of mass distraction
for our society these days.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Absolutely, because wisdom, as judgment and humility and perspective, involves
some basic core ideas. So wisdom involves empathy, self awareness,
and timing, and so there's this paradox involved in it.
And so when you want to try to be wise,
and I say try because it requires an active verb component,

(40:41):
because it requires some activity. Wise people often admit when
they don't know something, because no one knows everything. Just
like when I started the show and I appreciated that feedback.
They were like, you know, Tiffany, you really kind of
oversimplified things and it's okay. Do it meant, hey, you
know what I did kind of make it overly simplified,

(41:04):
so let me correct it. So for people who may say, okay,
you did oversimplify it, because I did. I was trying
to squeeze, you know, week's worth of training into a
one hour segment. So yes, I did oversimplify the veteran show.
And it's okay to say you don't know something or

(41:25):
I didn't do it to the best of my ability
during that component. And so emotional intelligence as a component
of wisdom, you should know where you stand where unique
growth because we are constantly evolving. We're human and growth
is a good thing people. And it's okay to have

(41:48):
wisdom traditions, whether it's Confucius, Aristotle, or indigenous knowledge or
spiritual views. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I think that the whole it's a skill. Wisdom is
a cultivated skill. There are tools that you can use
to further that along or deny. So for me, my

(42:20):
best tools for wisdom are I gave one earlier when
to hold and when defold another one that I love
because the visual and this is pretty funny, don't poke
the animal. And the holidays are coming out and you
know you're going to your family, you know you're gonna

(42:41):
go see people. And every year it's the same thing.
They're going to ask, are you married yet? Or did
you get that promotion? Or did you get a real job.
And I know that they are, you know they're going
to ask that. I know I have the knowledge and
the will and the wisdom to not poke the animal,

(43:04):
not give them something to poke at. Don't leave your
goat out in the yard so someone can get your goat.
Don't have your buttons that you know you someone can
push your button. Don't wear it on the outside of
your outfit. I had a friend say before I went
back for the holidays, and I knew it was just

(43:26):
not going to be good, and I was dreading going
and she said, visualize yourself covered in daisies and when
people pick at you, they're just getting a flower. And
I thought, Wow, what a beautiful way to you know,
not be afraid of people's you know, picking at me,

(43:48):
they're gonna that's that's under microd that's wisdom, right. What
you say, what you think of me is none of
my business.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
That's absolutely absolutely And I think now people confute use
being smart with being wise, because just because you have
book knowledge doesn't mean that you really understand the world.
And I think a lot of times people get confused

(44:15):
between the two because just because you have book knowledge
doesn't mean you have applicable world knowledge, and it doesn't
mean that you can apply it to politics, business and
daily life, and they don't go hand in hand. And
I have seen that, and I think social media gets

(44:40):
caught up in that as well. And because you have
artificial intelligence and you have so much knowledge at your
fingertips and everything is like bam bam bam, and you
can have so much information so quick and you can
get everything so quickly. I don't think that people can

(45:01):
process things mentally sometimes, and I think we need to
take a beat, take a breath, and pause and use
our minds.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great tool, is just to take
a breath. I do not send angry or my first reaction.
Knee jerk reactions are called knee jerk reactions because most
likely you're gonna look like a jerk. So I hit
save draft often and then I give myself twenty four

(45:35):
hours and I ask my ups man, my universal power source,
if this is the wisest course of action and I
get an answer when I ask, but I have to listen,
and you know, I'll have situations come up that will
tell me one way or the other. Wisdom is, you know,

(45:56):
when I get to work with leaders, they say, I
don't understand. This is not rocket science? Why do Why
can't people just follow direction? Why can't this You know,
I'm trying to lead an organization smooth oil machine, and
I don't understand. Everybody has that technical knowledge. Why is

(46:18):
this so difficult? And I say, well, you know, common
sense is uncommon, logical thought is illogical because we're human.
This is this is when you have humans at work,
you're going to get power, politics, miscommunication, conflict, favoritism, unfairness

(46:39):
because we're human. And then I when I do a
learning organization exercise, I say, there is one organization that
does not have power in politics and favoritism. You want
to go work there? People go, oh yeah, tell me,
And I say, it's the cemetery. You want to go
work there where there are no people, there are no politics.

(47:02):
It's just that's wisdom to know that no matter how
good you are, how well you perform, it is it
is not logical to have someone come to you and go, oh,
look at the stuff you've done, or why don't you
take a break? You got to do that for yourself,

(47:24):
and you got to play the game. I know you
hate it, but it's part of being human at work,
and it's not a game. Who says you can't promote
other people and say how great of a job they're doing.
Why don't you take a lunch and make some strategic
alliances with the people at work who may be able

(47:44):
to help you up that ladder. Of course, there's going
to be pissed off people. There's one job ninety nine applicants.
Only one person is happy. Ninety nine are pissed off.
No wonder we have organizations with a lot of pissed
off people's wisdom. Understanding that the logic doesn't rain. Oh absolutely,

(48:08):
that does that hit anything, doctor Tiffany, Oh, it definitely does.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And I think it's important that you can't move from
knowledge to wisdom. And there are steps that you can take.
Number One, slow down, make some space for reflection and silence,
because when you do that, you can take the time

(48:34):
to think about.

Speaker 11 (48:39):
Well, what happens so weird.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
And it's okay, And then you can just listen deeply
to others and your own life experiences, and you can
even learn from other people's life experiences, because then you
can start to integrate knowledge through actions, and you can
learn from failure, not just your own failures, but other

(49:11):
people's failures, because remember, failure just stands for first attempt
in learning. And I think that that is a way
to help you evolve and to help you grow. And remember,
growth is an excellent thing. And as long as you're growing,
you are evolving, and that will help you to continue

(49:33):
to move and to gain in wisdom, and that is
a natural teacher of wisdom because remember, knowledge speaks, but
wisdom listens and it learns. I think Jimmy Hendrix says
that in one of his songs, such a.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Tough Time, Doctor Tiffany, I don't want you. There's something playing,
turn it off.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I don't hear it. So that's a I don't hear it.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Oh good, thank god. I thought it was a heard
from you, so let me could you hear it from
my microphone? So weird? Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Oh. I was saying that knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens,
and I think that's in like a Jimmy Hendrick Song,
Good morning, April.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Interview that I so, I just want to make sure
that the people listening aren't hearing that. Mm hmmm, and
that go ahead, keep going.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
So yeah, so yeah, we don't need less knowledge, we
need more wisdom and to help guide it. And maybe
that's the real challenge of our time, to make sure
that we can continue to grow and to continue to evolve.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
All right, it's here on to the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
If you can turn your volume up a little bit more, Okay, Well,
while doctor Marissa gets sorted out, I think it's important
for everyone to keep listening, to keep learning, but also
to keep living, because your experiences should teach you what

(51:47):
information cannot. In as long as we allow our experiences
to teach us, we will continue to evolve and to
continue to grow. And remember, knowledge will fill your mind. Well,
wisdom will fill your life.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That's a great final word, Doctor Tiffany, can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, awesome, I'm just going to pretend I'm not talking
in the background here. I literally have a ghost in
the studio. This has never happened before. I hope you've
really enjoyed this treatise on wisdom and knowledge as your tools.
Thank you, doctor Tiffany for all of your wise assets

(52:35):
on the topic. And I hope that you've learned a
couple of tools to keep you more wise. Uh and
why and that uh it isn't especially I think that
there's so much going around us right now that I
see it as a sharpening tool for our wisdom. We

(52:59):
are being uh more why that's new mm hmm for me?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Okay. And my final final word is like knowledge is
knowing that tomato is a fruit, but wisdom is putting
it uh in a fruit salad, or it's not putting
it in a fruit salad, so we we don't put
tomatoes in a fruit salad.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
My final final word is I get a bone to
pick with you, mom, tea. All today we are we
have a little more time. As long as you're not
hearing what I'm hearing in the background, I'm not hearing it.
So I'm going to ask you about something and I

(53:59):
can't remember, But why don't you tell us about the
children's book that you have? Oh?

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Okay, perfect?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And so.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I have my book Little Engine Mia Sings that teaches
children about bullying and I have bad Touching that teaches
children about inappropriate touching. And I have my book Money
Matters that teaches children about saving tithing as well as investing.

(54:32):
And then I have my very first book, Flow a Tree,
one hundred and eight poetic flows about life, love and
liturgical issues. And I have another book that's coming out
called Perfectly Perfect that teaches children about healthy eating. And
you can visit my book my website at doctor Tiffany
Tate dot com to learn more about those books. So

(54:53):
please visit my website at doctor Tiffanytate dot com. And
you can also purchase those books at Amazon or Barnes
and Nobles, and they make great holiday gifts and you
can get them any day and they will be a
great addition to your library. Now, Little Engine Mia Sings

(55:13):
is also available as an audio book, and since we
still have time. Another thing about our topic is knowledge
is knowing what to say, and wisdom is knowing whether
or not you should say it. And so there we go.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
I figured it out. There was a double window open
that was playing another show. And I don't know why
the ghosts put that. I guess likes the sound of
my voice, but I apologize for that. Hey, I have
the knowledge of how to make this work and the
wisdom to know that everything doesn't exactly go as it's planned.

(56:06):
And my job now is to focus on the fourteen
and fifty shows that go without hitch and the fifty
nine shows that don't and have a hiccup, and they
are hiccups, they're missed takes. I hope you've enjoyed today's

(56:27):
version of Doctors in the House with myself.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
And doctor Tiffany Tait, and it's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I'm on the other side that that's a new thing
that's happened here too, and I'm glad that surprise. I
know how to I know how to laugh at myself.
You are the host now you're the main host in
the studio. Talk to Tippy. How does it feel to
be live? I should change that live.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm doctor Marissa.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
All right, you know the drill. It's all about pieces
piece world peace through inner piece. Now go and oh sorry,
doctor Tiffany, please take us out.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Now, go and have the best day ever.

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