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and happiness, and frankly, my dear, I do not want
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the news either on your phone or on your device,
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and that is not the way I want you to
start your day. Instead, I want you to feel amazing
and tune in here where we don't talk about any
headlines at all. In fact, there's no bad news really
because if there is bad news, we've got solution for it.
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And today is no exception.
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We have in studio my newest series called Beating Cancer
with Nutrition, and you see my co host here. His
name is Mark Simon, and last week you know he
was extremely helpful with respect to probiotics, prebiotics and gut health.
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He is a clinical nutrition nutritionist with a specific focus
on cancer prevention and treatment. He's also the CEO of
Norri Nutraceuticals, which manufactures specialty nutritional supplements. If you listen
to his very first interview with me before we started
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the series, you'll remember my finding out and how happy
I was what cancer cells actually thrive on and conversely.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What they will start without.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So if you know anyone right now who has cancer,
or if you have cancer yourself, you're in the right place,
feel free to share. All of his information is based
on his experience in this This is not medical advice.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
As a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What do they call those disclaimers. But you know on
the show, everything that I talk about is based on
our experiences and our research. So it's not everything, but
it's not nothing. It's certainly eighty eight percent incredibly useful,
which is my goal. And so, without further ado, please welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Back to my studio, Mark Simon.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Welcome back, Mark, thank you, thank you for having me again.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Absolutely, we're going to start, as we always do on
this show with breakfast.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Mark and I are going to have breakfast together.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Actually invite you all to take a bite of my
gratitude sandwich top of the button.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What are you grateful for?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That is just you know within iesight that you appreciate.
And then tonight, before you go to bed, I want
you to look this way, look inside and say what
do I like and appreciate inside of myself? What do
I like about myself? That way, you're going to have
a good night's sleep and staid, I think it about
all the things you can get done, or who did
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you wrong or how you did you wrong? Instead what
did you do right? So that's what we're gonna do.
Top of the bun What are you grateful for? I
am super grateful that my daughters, both of them, are
coming down from San Francisco for the holiday, and we're
going to make that giant thing that I'm not going
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to talk about with Mark because he's a vegan, but
we're going to eat the traditional and we're going to
just I just adore my daughters and they're far enough
away in San Francisco, and it's always delightful when that
they come down to have a family or a mamily.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I call it Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
That's what I'm grateful for, Mark, What are you grateful for?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I think I'm grateful for the rain. It washes everything clean.
The air's super clean and crispy, and the soil gets
all the replenishment of water that it needs, and things
are going to get ready for the spring.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Absolutely, my daughter loves it, especially the gray. You know,
I'm solar powered.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I like the sun. Sarah loves it. And it's rainy
and gloomy. All right, sorry, I like the sun too.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I thrive in the sun. But yeah, you have to
accept both because that's unnecessary for life.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
This is the answer, right, All right, Let's go to
the bottom of the bud, which is what.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Do I like about myself?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
This is weight training for your mental health, because frankly,
if you can't approve of yourself, how the fork do
you expect anybody else to? It is my BS my
belief system that self care, self approval, self soothing are
the foundation of good mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Us don't know what that is because we're constantly looking
to others to give us that self approval. And there's
the siren to tell you that that is the absolute highlighted.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Truth for right now.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I know that if you know how good you are,
you'll be less likely to have your antenna up always
looking for likes literally on social media these days.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Instead, I want you to know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
How great you absolutely are, as all of us are
one of a guy. I'm wonderful, not a throwback in
the bunch, as my big brother Michael Beckforth will say.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So what do you like about yourself? I'll start it off.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I like the fact that I even when I don't
feel like doing something like getting up early and going
to the gym and working out, I do it anyways,
and then I always feel better after and I know
it's good for.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
My body and my health and my cels. So uh,
the ability to be b disciplined.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I appreciate about myself, What about you? Mark?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
What's coming up as non judgment being non judgmental love
myself and others that we're all here and we're all imperfect,
and there's no reason to be judgmental of anybody unless
they're evil doing some evil, terrible things, then that's okay.
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For all the other stuff, Nah, doesn't make any sense
to judge oneself for anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Absolutely, Absolutely, And I forgot to do the well, I
didn't forget. I've been doing the stories for Instagram to
tell everybody that we're on live right now. I've got
Mark Simon in studio today. He's the founder and director
of Nori Nutritional Oncology Research Institute. And what is our
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topic for today? Hold on, I've got a new little
thing here, No bell.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
No Bell price. What is our topic today? Mark?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Balanced nutrition? How to achieve balance and the foods that
you're eating for optimal health and longevity.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Absolutely, And we started this topic last week. I actually
forced him to pick this topic for this week because
I wanted to put the moose on the table, my
Canadian version of talking about the l ephant in the room.
I wanted to talk about the food Pyramid, how we
grew up with some bs, some belief systems that may
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or may not be true now, and or the sort
of the story behind the story, even of the food
pyramid itself. So this is not just for cancer patients
or cancer you know, loved ones.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This is for everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And even though our series title is Beating Cancer with Nutrition,
this will also help you if you do have cancer
or know someone who has cancer. But the biggest, biggest, biggest,
biggest link that I want to make with this series
and why I invited Mark to be my newest co
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host here, is because this is really like, it's not
rocket science, but honestly, I didn't grow up up understanding
nutrition and what it did to my body outside of
you need to have this. The food Pyramid that was one,
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and then after the food Pyramid, it was calories because dieting, right,
so you don't look at you just look at the.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Number of calories. Everything was you know, weight Watchers points.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And it's all based on calories, which is not a
good measure of what's good for your body. So that's
that's why I forced you to talk about this. And
last week Mark gave me a challenge.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
What was the challenge to.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Try eating only fruit for a few days to a
week and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So I did four days total, so I had to
overachieve your three day. I did not do it executively
except for two days consecutively and then two days conseculing,
because I was it's the only day that I could
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day that I could go on this date.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And he asked her what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And I want I felt like sushi, So that that
was my excuse.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I have to report that.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
One I was surprised at how full, slash not hungry
I was the entire day, and I didn't eat like
gobs and gobs of fruit. I'll tell you exactly how
what I had in the first the first two day thing,
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I went and bought a Mexican put paia. I bought
a Hawaiian papaya. I bought a small watermelon. I had
a gift from friends. I had four per simmons. I
had a little bag of tangerines. I had one full pomegranate.
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I had a whole gaggle of longan, which is a
Chinese fruit.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's the cousin of laichi. Is that it? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's what I had for and bananas, yeah, and cauliflower,
a whole head of cauliflower and two things of corn.
So that was four days worth of food. And I
was not hungry, Like the whole day, I was not hungry.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I felt good.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I definitely did get more regular, right, So the fiber
that you told me about, so I deserve a little
good on me hold.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
On relations thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
They are introduced to true clean eating.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And and I don't know if I necessarily felt more energetic,
because I have to be honest, I am the cross
between the energizer bunny and the Tasmanian devil already, so
I uh, people would be like, oh my god, no,
she doesn't need more energy. So but the thing that
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really struck me is what I said. I couldn't believe
how there were no hunger pangs at all compared to
when I go on a diet of you know, no
no uh uh pasta or you know, the carb no
carb diet I got.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
When I tried that keto diet.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Once I was starving, like, all I could think about
was so that was really a wonderful discovery.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You're providing your body everything your body needed. Yeah, yeah,
so healthy carbs, minerals, vitamins, fiber.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And would you say that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know, I'm thinking I could do this, you know,
on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Is there any value of.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Doing like fruit for two days a week?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Sure, yeah, every day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't know if I could do it every day,
because I got to be honest, I missed, you know,
I missed some things that I like.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So they're different variations. So what I practice myself is
I do fruit only in the morning, fruit only breakfast.
And I think that's a really good approach. And then
you could add in to that, you know, a couple
of days, one or two days a week you do
fruit only, that's going to provide a huge amount of benefit.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, So so I now.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm gonna put the moose on the table and you're
gonna yell at me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But I don't I have.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Unless it's brunch, unless it's.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
A special breakfast.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I do the intermittent fasting, so I eat between twelve
and eight.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've never been a breakfast person.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
In fact, if I do have breakfast, I am craving
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
People say that that is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You have to have breakfast is the most important meal
of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Blah blah blah blah blah. But I have I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
My body doesn't seem to need eight hours of sleep.
My body doesn't seem to me breakfast, and I'm not
starving by my Sometimes I forget to eat until two
o'clock because.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know, I'm fine. So if it's working for.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Me, yeah, well maybe you could just do your lunch.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It is fruit, so you're not going to yell at
me for not having breakfast. No, no, okay, why.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Because it sounds like it's kind of a habit that
you developed and zone need. There's no reason to change it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I like that answer, But just try.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
To include more fruit in your diet. And best way
to eat fruit is just to eat fruit alone. Don't
ever eat fruit for a dessert because it'll sit there
and ferment in your stomach. So fruit's always eaten alone
by itself. It's the sole food combining thing. Do you
remember there was a book a long time ago called
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Fit for Life Harvey Diamond, and you talked a lot
about food combining and it really makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, talk to you about that, maybe or and or
maybe we do that next week, but honestly, I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So certain foods digest really quick and fast leave the
stomach really quickly, and that's fruit. Fruit doesn't sit in
the stomach maybe for more than a half an hour
forty five minutes, and then it's released into the small intestine,
whereas other foods can sit there for hours and hours
and hours. So you don't want fruit sitting in your
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stomach for a long time because it'll ferment it just
like when you make wine or beer. So those kinds
of foods should be eaten alone and eaten first, then
followed by the slower digesting foods.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So you don't want to eat it last.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You do not want to eat your fruit last. You
want to eat your fruit.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
First, okay, So not good to eat it before bed.
Then that would.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Actually be okay, as long as it's a few hours
after your dinner. You could have a fruit snack at night.
That would be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, okay, cool, All right, So let's go to the
heart of what I wanted to talk about, which was
the food pyramid. So, at the risk of giving up
my hash agelessness, I grew up in Canada with the
food pyramid, and I thought that was the Bible until
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I watched one of those programs when Netflix first started
becoming the place to go to see interesting things. And
I can't even remember which show it was, maybe Forks
over Knives like that, and they talked about the politics
behind the food pyramid. So let's look at I'm trying
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to bring it up right now, the old food pyramid.
And this is a three D look, so that does Okay?
This one looks more here. Let me pull this up
so we can both look at it and you tell me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The Okay, I know it's small. How's that? Is that better? Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So we've got on the bottom vegetables, salad and fruit,
whole meal, cereals, milk, yogurt, cheese.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Meat, poultry, fish.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Fat spreads and oils, and foods and drinks high in fat,
sugar and salt. Wait wait, wait, wait wait, this is
not the food pyramid I grew up with.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That's an old old one.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's an old old one.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well it's not good too, right, yes, So so let's
talk about this one. Actually, want to I want to
pull up the one that let me put what should
I call it the older.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Original food pyramids.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, well, now they do something different. They'd actually just
show a plate, you know, with proportions of different things
on the plate. This is a little easier, a little
better concept.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But yeah, political uh huh.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I was influenced by the beef producers and the egg producers, and.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Mostly it is like an older one or no, see
this is different now, right, So the other one had
fruits and vegetables on the bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This one has grains on the bottom. Do you see this?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Okay, this is also I put in original and gave
me this now.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
The original.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let's just stick with this one right now. So I
remember the meat being like lower down, right, and the
milk dairy was also lowered down. And from that Expose documentary,
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it said that the people who were on the board
who actually created the pyramid were kind of like their
self interest, right, So the dairy farmers and the beef
farmers were on the board, and of course those got
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like main spots, which always was like.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
How did they get away with that?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Speak to that.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, so that is the truth. So when the USDA
comes up with these dietary guidelines, got's influenced by the
big agricultural producers, mainly of dairy and eggs, and they
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have huge you know, lobbies and government and the meat producers,
you know, the pork, the beef, and the chicken. There's
a big, big corporate entities and they have a huge
amount of power and say so on dietary recommendations that
are given out to the public.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, did you know it was actually originated in Sweden?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I didn't know that. The pyramid. Yeah, so ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I don't see the pyramid much anymore. What I see
is this plate, you know, with the proportions of different
foods on the plate, and they show protein. And here's
what's really important to understand. We do not need to
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eat animal products for protein. There's more than enough protein
and plant based foods. There we go. There, there's the plate.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Is this one accurate?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Well, just take all the animal products off of it
and I'd be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So you would take out this the fish, all the meat, egg, fish.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Take it away.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's a quarter, right.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, take it away, has no use, no purpose, no
good for the body. Okay, fruits and vegetables. You've got
half of the plate is fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's all good, and then the other grains.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All grains could come or go. People don't do well
on a lot of grains, and they're not really necessary
components of the diet. Fruits and vegetables are are really
the foundation. And you know, you need some concentrated calories,
so that could come from potatoes and squashes. As far
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as grains go, rice is probably the least harmful, you know.
And then you can also throw in some beans. And
then there's nuts and seeds and small amounts, so that
that meat and others which we're tossing out. You could
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put the nuts in there and some seeds and maybe
the seat of whole grains. Maybe you could, but beans,
but we don't want to eat all these things all
at once at a meal. There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So this one is from the government, Yeah, MyPlate dot gov.
So it's not saying meat, saying protein protein.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, because protein means in most people's mind, protein equals meat, right,
or dairy or eggs or fash you know whatever. Yeah,
but that protein could also mean beans, nuts, seeds. These
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are very high protein foods which supply more than adequate
protein in the diet. Yeah, and the dairy can go
away completely. We don't. We don't need to drink milk,
especially not cow's milk when we're little babies. Yes, we
need mother's milk, for sure, it's the perfect food for
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growing baby m.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But this is so counter what we grew up with
though on the dairy. And this, again, I think is
one of the you know, what do they call it, like,
it's like bias. There's another word for it, right, But
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how are they allowed to well, anyways, I'm not gonna
blame anybody. It just is right now, and what we're
doing is balancing, right what the common misconceptions are and and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Just if you haven't watched any of those kind of.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Things, I know the original when stuff started coming out
about let's see, I'm the average person again right now,
I'm going to be real.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I heard about all of this is someone at my
I was consulting for our company and they were planning
the retreat because I do facilitation for strategy strategic planning,
and somebody said, oh, we have to order this blah
blah because there's someone who's a vegetarian in the group,
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and you know, eyeballs rolling, Oh my god, we have
to completely change our menu for that one person, and
then a couple of years later it was, oh my god,
we've got vegans in the group. So my introduction like,
I think the average person keeping it real, but the
moose on the table was.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Pain in the neck.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Outliers controlling the menu and they're crazy, and you know,
then I the next step in my education was, I
really need to find out the name of that. There's
a number of those movies that everybody should watch. But
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in particular, it was looking at the level of corn
syrup in all all of our grocery stores, in the products.
It was looking at all of the processing, all of
the fertilizer that goes, all of the coloring that goes
into the food. And this incredible lobbyist control of the
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information of the pyramid that I grew up with, And
I thought, how did they get away with that?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
How could you have.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
A dairy farmer sitting on the committee to create a
pyramid and say that dairy is one of the major categories.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
When you're saying and not.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Just you, I mean there's medical all this research saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Day's not good for you. Correct, Why is dairy not
good for you?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well? Let's talk about animal products in general. The number
one thing is they contain zero fiber. So instead of
thinking in terms of protein as being the most important
macro nutrient, it's fiber that's really the most important macronutrient
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in our diet. Americans are lacking in fiber in a really,
really bad way, and that affects the gut and the
gut health and many other things downstream. So I think
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experts are really realizing now the importance of high fiber.
So if you displace a food group that has, you know,
no fiber in it, not displace it. But let's see,
you have a food group that has no fiber in it,
and it's displacing foods that have, you know, the fiber,
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you're going to create trouble. And on top of that,
we've got all the ultra processed foods, which generally have
very little fiber because it's just oil and white flour,
you know, chemicals, and you know that's not good either.
So you know, we want to maximize fiber intake. So
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where's fiber, fibers and whole foods, fruits and vegetables, whole
grains and beans and nuts and seeds. That's the foundation.
If you did want to do pyramid, you'd have that
at the base and then everything else above it. You
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know that pyramid would be detrimental to our health. Ultra
processed foods, animal products, and I don't care if they're organic,
free range, pasta, raised, it doesn't matter. It's just outright
unhealthy for many reasons because it's much more unhealthy because
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of the way the animals are fat and the animals
are raised, and the antibiotics and chemicals and everything you
know that they accumulate in their short life as a
farm animal. So, yeah, the optimal health is achieved through
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plant based nutrition, optimal health, optimal longevity, whole food, low fat,
plant based nutrition. So we know that diabetes it's not
really a disease. It's an imbalance.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
H Okay, that's an interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's an unbalance in macro nutrients. It's too much fat
in the diet. And so when you look at that
late it's got too much fat in it because you
got fat from dare. You've got a lot of fat,
you know, the animal products, and of course everybody's using
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oils and things like that, and all this excess fat
creates insulin resistance, which is type two diabetes. Okay, so
you want to get rid of diabetes, you just d
the fat intake. But to lower the fat intake, you
need to take those animal products out of the diet
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and you cut back in your oils and go easy
on avocado and that's and seeds, and you'll be fine.
You can fix the diabetes in a couple of days.
You just got to get that fat out of the diet.
Fat has a funny way of metabolizing, and it tends
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to build up in our muscle cells and liver cells,
and it builds up to toxic levels, which causes a
problem with the insulin receptor signaling, which will allow sugar
glue costs into the cell. There's a really good video
on my website on this by doctor Gregor. So I
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got off track a little bit. So, uh yeah, an
animal products are responsible for diabetes, they're responsible for heart disease,
they're responsible for coorectal cancer. There's no in my mind
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people are not going to like this, but there's no
health benefit to eating any animal products at all. There's
nothing you know, you hear about foods that are healthy
and good for you. Fruits and vegetables, they stand out
because the healthiest foods for us. Are there health benefits
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to any specific animal products?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Never proven?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Is the film?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Oh there's that book. So that book Mastering Diabetes. That's
an excellent book if you want to really learn how
to correct diabetes, you know, through diet the right way
instead of you know, taking all these anti dietets.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Just interesting.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, And what they say is, you know, you got
to cut out the fat, cut out the animal products,
and really increase your fruits and vegetables healthy carbohydrates, not
refined carbohydrates, but whole food healthy carbs, which includes fruits
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and vegetables and beans and potatoes and corn and all
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So this is exactly why I.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Wanted this series. So this is a new uh concept
again we you know the ones that just like blow
me away. Here's another one. So the first I think
I told you what blew me away was that looking
at cancer like a living cell that could be starved
(35:26):
and could be fattened. And that's not something that I
think people think about it. You think about cancer, you
think about chemo, there's no other. So so here's another one.
You think about diabetes, you think about to ancel it.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right, that is the you know, oh, you're prediabetic.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You're and I just talked to someone else who had
numbers in their blood yearly blood count thing that said,
you're you know, you're heading towards diabetes. And and then
the first thing is, oh, you gonna get on a
You're gonna go through the whole, you know, pick the
(36:06):
finger or you know, take.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Drugs, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And that is our fix, right as Americans, Canadians, as
this first world country, we go to that quick fix
slash pharmaceutical solution. And here is a is a concept
(36:35):
that I know that I'm hearing about for the first
time that even diabetes is something.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
That is related to what we eat.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
We can we can develop diabetes.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Over what we can eat. That's bad news.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
The good news is we can treat diabetes without taking
medication that has side effects which are actually main effects.
And yeah, that's like that's another you know, that's a
that's a moos drop.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, you don't forget lifestyle. Don't get lifestyle either. Exercise
is critical.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Right right, Yeah, but I think diet again, diet is
something that I am educated on, Yeah, for these things.
So so here's you've got a great resource. I know
there's a lot more people out there who know people
or and or are affected by diabetes.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There are thirty million people in the United States who
are diabetic, type mostly type two, so TYPEE.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Answer.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Type one is when the pancreas is not producing sufficient
or enough insulin, or maybe not producing insulin at all.
That's a very small percentage, but the vast majority of
diabetes patients it's type two. There's plenty of insulin there,
but the insulin is not triggering the receptor, the insulin
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receptor which then would allow the blood glucose to enter
into the cells. So it's blocked. That's insulin resistance and
it's really easy to fix.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Is this you Nori?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
The Nori protocol.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, So those that are driving this is a book
called Mastering Diabetes, The Revolutionary Method to Reverse Insulin Resistance
Permanently in type one, type one, point five, type two
pre diabetes and just Stational Diabetes forward by Barnard, Nearly published,
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highly recommended, and the dietary recommendations parallel those within the
Nori Protocol. The key message is to limit all forms
of fat to less than fifteen percent of total calories.
Nori recommends a lower fat threshold between five to ten
percent of total calories. Insulin resistance is primarily due to
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access fat build up in liver and muscle cells. So
you can get this through Barnes and Nomal, Amazon masteringdiabetes
dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And here's the film I was talking about too, Quorks
over Knives. This was like amazing to me. So those
of you who haven't seen this, I would highly suggest
watching this to kind of kickstart yourself to some BS
or challenging some BS systems that you may have as
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a habit.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Knives refers to scalpel. That's forks over scalpels.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Uh uh oh is the next one film?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Oh, there's a film for it. But see on the
book cover. You know, it shows you know, a fork
in the hand and then low knives it shows a scalpel.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That's kind of the choice either you know, eat right
or are you going to go under the knife.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Oh, this whole time I thought it was something else.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Like forks over knives that you need to cut meat.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
That's yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Mean it works, but this is even more severe.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Kind of looking at open heart surgery. You know you
don't fix your diet, They're gonna crack your chest open.
We'll first cut through this with a scalpel and then
crack your rib cage open and do what they do
cornary bypass surgery.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And this is and this is where I know I'm
going to open a Pandora's box here, but I'm gonna
do it because you know me, I gotta put the
moose on the table.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
This is a giant moose.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
When people say I had a triple heart bypass, I
have stints put in, I have blocked artery, I have
there's no second response of saying, you know, I really
have to.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Watch.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I have not been responsible for what I put in
my body that is directly related to.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Me being.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, uh paying for or the healthcare system paying
for your bypass. The fact that I had bacon and
eggs every single day of my life, and and and
steak and eggs, or you know, that's a matter of
(42:18):
pride that I'm a meat and potatoes and a giant dessert.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
That's that's normal.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And and there's no connection and no responsibility between that
and oh my god, I'm you know, eighty thousand dollars
a triple bypass that. And it's like same with smoking.
(42:46):
I smoked all my life and and you know it's like, oh,
poor me, I have lung cancer, but I smoked my
you know, right, and then let's do one more. Just
because I'm on a roll, I might as well put
all the moose on the table. Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Is obesity?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
It's yes, there are people who are just naturally right
and they they eat healthy and that's their body type.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And owens. I'm not saying also owens.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But there is a cultural Not everybody who's obese is irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
In what they put in their body.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
However, yeah, there are people who are genetically predisposed, but
that is easier. But the answer is again, plant based diet,
whole foods. The CLOrk density, you know, is pretty low
in these foods. CLOrk density is very high in animal products.
(43:48):
So and now these ultra processed foods too. So you
go on a healthy whole foods, plant based diet, your
weight's going to come off, it's going to normalize. It
could even go too low. I have when I'm treating
cancer patients sometimes their weight goes too low. We have
(44:08):
we have to just you know, adjust things a little
bit to make sure they get enough calories every day
so they keep their their weight up.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, so so I put all those moose on the table.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
We missed our break, so I have.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
To we streamed right through it.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Don't go away.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
We're going to come back with solution when we come
back here on Dick my Advice, I'm not using a
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series called Beating Cancer, uh and any other Today we're
Diabetes with Nutrition with Nori founder Mark Simon.
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eating nutrition, what's good and that's so good for my body.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
We've been talking.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Welcome back to the studio Mark before the break, We've
been talking about diabetes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
We've been talking about the.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Food pyramid and the correction in the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So what can we do in baby steps right now?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So okay, doctor present, you convinced me I need to
take more responsibility for what I'm putting in my system.
Last week the challenge was a fruit diet. What can
we do this week? What's or for the next two weeks.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Maybe think about out the grocery store, you know the
center aisles, we're all the poisons and gravitate more towards
you know these it is either on the left side
of the right side where they have all the produce.
Try to fill your shopping card up with as much
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fresh produce as you can, vegetables, fruits, start eliminating all
the processed junk. And then the section is usually in
the back of the store, usually is the you know,
(49:40):
the butcher's counter or whatever. Try to build the consciousness
of what that is exactly? Does that contain any fiber?
Does it contain anything that's really good for me and healthy?
Or it just the cultural habit? What is that? Where
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did it all come from?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
It?
Speaker 4 (50:12):
You know certainly got processed through a slaughterhouse. So build
build that consciousness of what all that is and what
all that represents. When you walk past that whole meat counter,
when you walk past where the eggs are, the dairy section,
(50:37):
you know, the milk, the cheese, you know these are
products from a cow. Okay, so that the eggs are
basically chicken embryos. So think of it that way. Do
I want to really put that substance into my body?
And then the milk and the cheese, Uh, these came
(51:02):
out of a cow's udder? Well is it? Is it
inappropriate food for you know, a grown human being? Does
it contain anything that's healthy for me? Does it contain fiber?
But it does contain fat, saturated fat, and does contain
(51:25):
cholesterol and hormones and you know all kinds of stuff
they're not so good for me. And this business with
calcium that was debunked a long time ago, that you
need milk, you know, to get enough calcium in your diet. Well,
it turns out the countries that consume the most dairy,
(51:47):
the most milk, have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Wow, yes, America being one of them.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yes, European countries, America. And interesting because the milk also
contains the high amount of phosphorus. So the key is
this balance, this ratio of calcium to phosphorus, which you
will find in fruits and vegetables. You will find an
appropriate balance of calcium phosphorus in plant based foods.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
There's another thing.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
I didn't know, nothing to do with calcium, but just
the food manufacturers, you know, really really co opted that
notion that you know, we need calcium, we need dairy
for strong bones, and the opposite is true.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Yeah, these are all, I mean, just things that we
take for granted as the truth and the debunking and
that it's uh, it's to me, it's like shocking, like
how could that?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
How could that be? Like how could I not know
any of this?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
So but I'm not going to beat myself up or
somebody else. Uh, the fact is we now know there's
enough research to the shows you don't get hot milk
is not as good for you as originally told, right,
and the back of calcium and phosphorus is perfect in
(53:34):
fruit and vegetables, not processed food. That says that tells
you that you need this, and that this is giant marketing, giant,
you know, the the whole. I'm thinking to those those
commercials about eggs. I used to wonder, like, why would
(53:55):
they do a commercial about eggs because you know everybody eggs?
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Or why would they do a.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Commercial about you know, move eat you know cow? And
that I understand it's too foster a desire to eat
things that have been shown with happy faces. Right, yeah, yeah,
(54:23):
bring really what it is or bs creating and yeah,
so these are pretty big things, even though you've been
immersed in this for a long time and you understand.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
All of this.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Uh, it is really honestly, unless you know, y'all can
tell me I'm wrong, But I know that I'm hearing
stuff for the first time here that I had.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
No clue about.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
And you know, Peter Aside, I mean you you encroached
on that. You know that I don't know if I
really wanted to hear about the egg embryo thing. Uh,
I know it's a it's a good one. Too. My
older daughter was vegan for years and years and you
know it was from the pita basse.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
So so there's.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
One thing about you don't want to eat things that
are cute and fuzzy and you know animal.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Living being how dare you?
Speaker 3 (55:22):
Uh, there's nothing wrong with that, but it does have
this you know, oh, your tree hugger kind of thing.
The focus that I want us to really hammer home is.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
This is about your body.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
This is about what your body craves, what your body needs,
what your body uh is naturally going to thrive on.
So I my final word today is the focus on
protein was not a balance story. It's the focus on
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fiber that makes our bodies thrive. Is the message that
I want us to leave here for me that when
I'm looking in my fridge or going to buy stuff,
I'm not thinking about protein.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
I want to think about fiber.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yes, because that's essential for optimal gut health. And gut
health comes back to the gut everything.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
And why is the gut important Because the gut supplies
the food and nutrients for your brain.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Serotonin is produced in the gut. Yes, resides the gut.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Last time you were on it's everything. Yeah, there you
have it.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
I hope you enjoyed another really informative and important discussion.
Thank you Mark Simon. We'll see you in another two weeks.
It's all all balance, piece in piece, out world, peace
through inner piece.
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Back to my studio, Mark Simon.
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Welcome back, Mark, thank you, thank you for having me again.
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Absolutely, we're going to start, as we always do on
this show with breakfast.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Mark and I are going to have breakfast together.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Actually invite you all to take a bite of my
gratitude sandwich top of the button.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What are you grateful for?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That is just you know within iesight that you appreciate.
And then tonight, before you go to bed, I want
you to look this way, look inside and say what
do I like and appreciate inside of myself? What do
I like about myself? That way, you're going to have
a good night's sleep and staid, I think it about
all the things you can get done, or who did
(04:17):
you wrong or how you did you wrong? Instead what
did you do right? So that's what we're gonna do.
Top of the bun What are you grateful for? I
am super grateful that my daughters, both of them, are
coming down from San Francisco for the holiday, and we're
going to make that giant thing that I'm not going
(04:38):
to talk about with Mark because he's a vegan, but
we're going to eat the traditional and we're going to
just I just adore my daughters and they're far enough
away in San Francisco, and it's always delightful when that
they come down to have a family or a mamily.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I call it Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
That's what I'm grateful for, Mark, What are you grateful for?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I think I'm grateful for the rain. It washes everything clean.
The air's super clean and crispy, and the soil gets
all the replenishment of water that it needs, and things
are going to get ready for the spring.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Absolutely, my daughter loves it, especially the gray. You know,
I'm solar powered.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I like the sun. Sarah loves it. And it's rainy
and gloomy. All right, sorry, I like the sun too.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I thrive in the sun. But yeah, you have to
accept both because that's unnecessary for life.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
This is the answer, right, All right, Let's go to
the bottom of the bud, which is what.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Do I like about myself?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
This is weight training for your mental health, because frankly,
if you can't approve of yourself, how the fork do
you expect anybody else to? It is my BS my
belief system that self care, self approval, self soothing are
the foundation of good mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Us don't know what that is because we're constantly looking
to others to give us that self approval. And there's
the siren to tell you that that is the absolute highlighted.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Truth for right now.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I know that if you know how good you are,
you'll be less likely to have your antenna up always
looking for likes literally on social media these days.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Instead, I want you to know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
How great you absolutely are, as all of us are
one of a guy. I'm wonderful, not a throwback in
the bunch, as my big brother Michael Beckforth will say.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So what do you like about yourself? I'll start it off.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I like the fact that I even when I don't
feel like doing something like getting up early and going
to the gym and working out, I do it anyways,
and then I always feel better after and I know
it's good for.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
My body and my health and my cels. So uh,
the ability to be b disciplined.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I appreciate about myself, What about you? Mark?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
What's coming up as non judgment being non judgmental love
myself and others that we're all here and we're all imperfect,
and there's no reason to be judgmental of anybody unless
they're evil doing some evil, terrible things, then that's okay.
(07:48):
For all the other stuff, Nah, doesn't make any sense
to judge oneself for anybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Absolutely, Absolutely, And I forgot to do the well, I
didn't forget. I've been doing the stories for Instagram to
tell everybody that we're on live right now. I've got
Mark Simon in studio today. He's the founder and director
of Nori Nutritional Oncology Research Institute. And what is our
(08:21):
topic for today? Hold on, I've got a new little
thing here, No bell.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
No Bell price. What is our topic today? Mark?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Balanced nutrition? How to achieve balance and the foods that
you're eating for optimal health and longevity.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Absolutely, And we started this topic last week. I actually
forced him to pick this topic for this week because
I wanted to put the moose on the table, my
Canadian version of talking about the l ephant in the room.
I wanted to talk about the food Pyramid, how we
grew up with some bs, some belief systems that may
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or may not be true now, and or the sort
of the story behind the story, even of the food
pyramid itself. So this is not just for cancer patients
or cancer you know, loved ones.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This is for everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And even though our series title is Beating Cancer with Nutrition,
this will also help you if you do have cancer
or know someone who has cancer. But the biggest, biggest, biggest,
biggest link that I want to make with this series
and why I invited Mark to be my newest co
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host here, is because this is really like, it's not
rocket science, but honestly, I didn't grow up up understanding
nutrition and what it did to my body outside of
you need to have this. The food Pyramid that was one,
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and then after the food Pyramid, it was calories because dieting, right,
so you don't look at you just look at the.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Number of calories. Everything was you know, weight Watchers points.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And it's all based on calories, which is not a
good measure of what's good for your body. So that's
that's why I forced you to talk about this. And
last week Mark gave me a challenge.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
What was the challenge to.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Try eating only fruit for a few days to a
week and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So I did four days total, so I had to
overachieve your three day. I did not do it executively
except for two days consecutively and then two days conseculing,
because I was it's the only day that I could
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day that I could go on this date.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And he asked her what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And I want I felt like sushi, So that that
was my excuse.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I have to report that.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
One I was surprised at how full, slash not hungry
I was the entire day, and I didn't eat like
gobs and gobs of fruit. I'll tell you exactly how
what I had in the first the first two day thing,
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I went and bought a Mexican put paia. I bought
a Hawaiian papaya. I bought a small watermelon. I had
a gift from friends. I had four per simmons. I
had a little bag of tangerines. I had one full pomegranate.
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I had a whole gaggle of longan, which is a
Chinese fruit.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's the cousin of laichi. Is that it? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's what I had for and bananas, yeah, and cauliflower,
a whole head of cauliflower and two things of corn.
So that was four days worth of food. And I
was not hungry, Like the whole day, I was not hungry.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I felt good.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I definitely did get more regular, right, So the fiber
that you told me about, so I deserve a little
good on me hold.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
On relations thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
They are introduced to true clean eating.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And and I don't know if I necessarily felt more energetic,
because I have to be honest, I am the cross
between the energizer bunny and the Tasmanian devil already, so
I uh, people would be like, oh my god, no,
she doesn't need more energy. So but the thing that
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really struck me is what I said. I couldn't believe
how there were no hunger pangs at all compared to
when I go on a diet of you know, no
no uh uh pasta or you know, the carb no
carb diet I got.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
When I tried that keto diet.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Once I was starving, like, all I could think about
was so that was really a wonderful discovery.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You're providing your body everything your body needed. Yeah, yeah,
so healthy carbs, minerals, vitamins, fiber.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And would you say that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know, I'm thinking I could do this, you know,
on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Is there any value of.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Doing like fruit for two days a week?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Sure, yeah, every day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't know if I could do it every day,
because I got to be honest, I missed, you know,
I missed some things that I like.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
So they're different variations. So what I practice myself is
I do fruit only in the morning, fruit only breakfast.
And I think that's a really good approach. And then
you could add in to that, you know, a couple
of days, one or two days a week you do
fruit only, that's going to provide a huge amount of benefit.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, So so I now.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm gonna put the moose on the table and you're
gonna yell at me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But I don't I have.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Unless it's brunch, unless it's.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
A special breakfast.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I do the intermittent fasting, so I eat between twelve
and eight.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've never been a breakfast person.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
In fact, if I do have breakfast, I am craving
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
People say that that is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You have to have breakfast is the most important meal
of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Blah blah blah blah blah. But I have I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
My body doesn't seem to need eight hours of sleep.
My body doesn't seem to me breakfast, and I'm not
starving by my Sometimes I forget to eat until two
o'clock because.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know, I'm fine. So if it's working for.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Me, yeah, well maybe you could just do your lunch.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It is fruit, so you're not going to yell at
me for not having breakfast. No, no, okay, why.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Because it sounds like it's kind of a habit that
you developed and zone need. There's no reason to change it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I like that answer, But just try.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
To include more fruit in your diet. And best way
to eat fruit is just to eat fruit alone. Don't
ever eat fruit for a dessert because it'll sit there
and ferment in your stomach. So fruit's always eaten alone
by itself. It's the sole food combining thing. Do you
remember there was a book a long time ago called
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Fit for Life Harvey Diamond, and you talked a lot
about food combining and it really makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, talk to you about that, maybe or and or
maybe we do that next week, but honestly, I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So certain foods digest really quick and fast leave the
stomach really quickly, and that's fruit. Fruit doesn't sit in
the stomach maybe for more than a half an hour
forty five minutes, and then it's released into the small intestine,
whereas other foods can sit there for hours and hours
and hours. So you don't want fruit sitting in your
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stomach for a long time because it'll ferment it just
like when you make wine or beer. So those kinds
of foods should be eaten alone and eaten first, then
followed by the slower digesting foods.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So you don't want to eat it last.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You do not want to eat your fruit last. You
want to eat your fruit.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
First, okay, So not good to eat it before bed.
Then that would.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Actually be okay, as long as it's a few hours
after your dinner. You could have a fruit snack at night.
That would be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, okay, cool, All right, So let's go to the
heart of what I wanted to talk about, which was
the food pyramid. So, at the risk of giving up
my hash agelessness, I grew up in Canada with the
food pyramid, and I thought that was the Bible until
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I watched one of those programs when Netflix first started
becoming the place to go to see interesting things. And
I can't even remember which show it was, maybe Forks
over Knives like that, and they talked about the politics
behind the food pyramid. So let's look at I'm trying
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to bring it up right now, the old food pyramid.
And this is a three D look, so that does Okay?
This one looks more here. Let me pull this up
so we can both look at it and you tell me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The Okay, I know it's small. How's that? Is that better? Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So we've got on the bottom vegetables, salad and fruit,
whole meal, cereals, milk, yogurt, cheese.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Meat, poultry, fish.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Fat spreads and oils, and foods and drinks high in fat,
sugar and salt. Wait wait, wait, wait wait, this is
not the food pyramid I grew up with.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That's an old old one.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's an old old one.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well it's not good too, right, yes, So so let's
talk about this one. Actually, want to I want to
pull up the one that let me put what should
I call it the older.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Original food pyramids.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, well, now they do something different. They'd actually just
show a plate, you know, with proportions of different things
on the plate. This is a little easier, a little
better concept.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But yeah, political uh huh.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I was influenced by the beef producers and the egg producers, and.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Mostly it is like an older one or no, see
this is different now, right, So the other one had
fruits and vegetables on the bottom.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This one has grains on the bottom. Do you see this?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Okay, this is also I put in original and gave
me this now.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
The original.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let's just stick with this one right now. So I
remember the meat being like lower down, right, and the
milk dairy was also lowered down. And from that Expose documentary,
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it said that the people who were on the board
who actually created the pyramid were kind of like their
self interest, right, So the dairy farmers and the beef
farmers were on the board, and of course those got
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like main spots, which always was like.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
How did they get away with that?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Speak to that.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, so that is the truth. So when the USDA
comes up with these dietary guidelines, got's influenced by the
big agricultural producers, mainly of dairy and eggs, and they
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have huge you know, lobbies and government and the meat producers,
you know, the pork, the beef, and the chicken. There's
a big, big corporate entities and they have a huge
amount of power and say so on dietary recommendations that
are given out to the public.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, did you know it was actually originated in Sweden?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I didn't know that. The pyramid. Yeah, so ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I don't see the pyramid much anymore. What I see
is this plate, you know, with the proportions of different
foods on the plate, and they show protein. And here's
what's really important to understand. We do not need to
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eat animal products for protein. There's more than enough protein
and plant based foods. There we go. There, there's the plate.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Is this one accurate?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Well, just take all the animal products off of it
and I'd be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So you would take out this the fish, all the meat, egg, fish.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Take it away.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's a quarter, right.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, take it away, has no use, no purpose, no
good for the body. Okay, fruits and vegetables. You've got
half of the plate is fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's all good, and then the other grains.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All grains could come or go. People don't do well
on a lot of grains, and they're not really necessary
components of the diet. Fruits and vegetables are are really
the foundation. And you know, you need some concentrated calories,
so that could come from potatoes and squashes. As far
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as grains go, rice is probably the least harmful, you know.
And then you can also throw in some beans. And
then there's nuts and seeds and small amounts, so that
that meat and others which we're tossing out. You could
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put the nuts in there and some seeds and maybe
the seat of whole grains. Maybe you could, but beans,
but we don't want to eat all these things all
at once at a meal. There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So this one is from the government, Yeah, MyPlate dot gov.
So it's not saying meat, saying protein protein.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, because protein means in most people's mind, protein equals meat, right,
or dairy or eggs or fash you know whatever. Yeah,
but that protein could also mean beans, nuts, seeds. These
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are very high protein foods which supply more than adequate
protein in the diet. Yeah, and the dairy can go
away completely. We don't. We don't need to drink milk,
especially not cow's milk when we're little babies. Yes, we
need mother's milk, for sure, it's the perfect food for
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growing baby m.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But this is so counter what we grew up with
though on the dairy. And this, again, I think is
one of the you know, what do they call it, like,
it's like bias. There's another word for it, right, But
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how are they allowed to well, anyways, I'm not gonna
blame anybody. It just is right now, and what we're
doing is balancing, right what the common misconceptions are and and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Just if you haven't watched any of those kind of.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Things, I know the original when stuff started coming out
about let's see, I'm the average person again right now,
I'm going to be real.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I heard about all of this is someone at my
I was consulting for our company and they were planning
the retreat because I do facilitation for strategy strategic planning,
and somebody said, oh, we have to order this blah
blah because there's someone who's a vegetarian in the group,
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and you know, eyeballs rolling, Oh my god, we have
to completely change our menu for that one person, and
then a couple of years later it was, oh my god,
we've got vegans in the group. So my introduction like,
I think the average person keeping it real, but the
moose on the table was.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Pain in the neck.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Outliers controlling the menu and they're crazy, and you know,
then I the next step in my education was, I
really need to find out the name of that. There's
a number of those movies that everybody should watch. But
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in particular, it was looking at the level of corn
syrup in all all of our grocery stores, in the products.
It was looking at all of the processing, all of
the fertilizer that goes, all of the coloring that goes
into the food. And this incredible lobbyist control of the
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information of the pyramid that I grew up with, And
I thought, how did they get away with that?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
How could you have.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
A dairy farmer sitting on the committee to create a
pyramid and say that dairy is one of the major categories.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
When you're saying and not.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Just you, I mean there's medical all this research saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Day's not good for you. Correct, Why is dairy not
good for you?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well? Let's talk about animal products in general. The number
one thing is they contain zero fiber. So instead of
thinking in terms of protein as being the most important
macro nutrient, it's fiber that's really the most important macronutrient
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in our diet. Americans are lacking in fiber in a really,
really bad way, and that affects the gut and the
gut health and many other things downstream. So I think
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experts are really realizing now the importance of high fiber.
So if you displace a food group that has, you know,
no fiber in it, not displace it. But let's see,
you have a food group that has no fiber in it,
and it's displacing foods that have, you know, the fiber,
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you're going to create trouble. And on top of that,
we've got all the ultra processed foods, which generally have
very little fiber because it's just oil and white flour,
you know, chemicals, and you know that's not good either.
So you know, we want to maximize fiber intake. So
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where's fiber, fibers and whole foods, fruits and vegetables, whole
grains and beans and nuts and seeds. That's the foundation.
If you did want to do pyramid, you'd have that
at the base and then everything else above it. You
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know that pyramid would be detrimental to our health. Ultra
processed foods, animal products, and I don't care if they're organic,
free range, pasta, raised, it doesn't matter. It's just outright
unhealthy for many reasons because it's much more unhealthy because
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of the way the animals are fat and the animals
are raised, and the antibiotics and chemicals and everything you
know that they accumulate in their short life as a
farm animal. So, yeah, the optimal health is achieved through
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plant based nutrition, optimal health, optimal longevity, whole food, low fat,
plant based nutrition. So we know that diabetes it's not
really a disease. It's an imbalance.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
H Okay, that's an interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's an unbalance in macro nutrients. It's too much fat
in the diet. And so when you look at that
late it's got too much fat in it because you
got fat from dare. You've got a lot of fat,
you know, the animal products, and of course everybody's using
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oils and things like that, and all this excess fat
creates insulin resistance, which is type two diabetes. Okay, so
you want to get rid of diabetes, you just d
the fat intake. But to lower the fat intake, you
need to take those animal products out of the diet
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and you cut back in your oils and go easy
on avocado and that's and seeds, and you'll be fine.
You can fix the diabetes in a couple of days.
You just got to get that fat out of the diet.
Fat has a funny way of metabolizing, and it tends
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to build up in our muscle cells and liver cells,
and it builds up to toxic levels, which causes a
problem with the insulin receptor signaling, which will allow sugar
glue costs into the cell. There's a really good video
on my website on this by doctor Gregor. So I
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got off track a little bit. So, uh yeah, an
animal products are responsible for diabetes, they're responsible for heart disease,
they're responsible for coorectal cancer. There's no in my mind
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people are not going to like this, but there's no
health benefit to eating any animal products at all. There's
nothing you know, you hear about foods that are healthy
and good for you. Fruits and vegetables, they stand out
because the healthiest foods for us. Are there health benefits
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to any specific animal products?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Never proven?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Is the film?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Oh there's that book. So that book Mastering Diabetes. That's
an excellent book if you want to really learn how
to correct diabetes, you know, through diet the right way
instead of you know, taking all these anti dietets.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Just interesting.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, And what they say is, you know, you got
to cut out the fat, cut out the animal products,
and really increase your fruits and vegetables healthy carbohydrates, not
refined carbohydrates, but whole food healthy carbs, which includes fruits
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and vegetables and beans and potatoes and corn and all
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So this is exactly why I.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Wanted this series. So this is a new uh concept
again we you know the ones that just like blow
me away. Here's another one. So the first I think
I told you what blew me away was that looking
at cancer like a living cell that could be starved
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and could be fattened. And that's not something that I
think people think about it. You think about cancer, you
think about chemo, there's no other. So so here's another one.
You think about diabetes, you think about to ancel it.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right, that is the you know, oh, you're prediabetic.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You're and I just talked to someone else who had
numbers in their blood yearly blood count thing that said,
you're you know, you're heading towards diabetes. And and then
the first thing is, oh, you gonna get on a
You're gonna go through the whole, you know, pick the
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finger or you know, take.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Drugs, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And that is our fix, right as Americans, Canadians, as
this first world country, we go to that quick fix
slash pharmaceutical solution. And here is a is a concept
(36:35):
that I know that I'm hearing about for the first
time that even diabetes is something.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
That is related to what we eat.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
We can we can develop diabetes.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Over what we can eat. That's bad news.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
The good news is we can treat diabetes without taking
medication that has side effects which are actually main effects.
And yeah, that's like that's another you know, that's a
that's a moos drop.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, you don't forget lifestyle. Don't get lifestyle either. Exercise
is critical.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Right right, Yeah, but I think diet again, diet is
something that I am educated on, Yeah, for these things.
So so here's you've got a great resource. I know
there's a lot more people out there who know people
or and or are affected by diabetes.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There are thirty million people in the United States who
are diabetic, type mostly type two, so TYPEE.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Answer.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Type one is when the pancreas is not producing sufficient
or enough insulin, or maybe not producing insulin at all.
That's a very small percentage, but the vast majority of
diabetes patients it's type two. There's plenty of insulin there,
but the insulin is not triggering the receptor, the insulin
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receptor which then would allow the blood glucose to enter
into the cells. So it's blocked. That's insulin resistance and
it's really easy to fix.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Is this you Nori?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
The Nori protocol.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, So those that are driving this is a book
called Mastering Diabetes, The Revolutionary Method to Reverse Insulin Resistance
Permanently in type one, type one, point five, type two
pre diabetes and just Stational Diabetes forward by Barnard, Nearly published,
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highly recommended, and the dietary recommendations parallel those within the
Nori Protocol. The key message is to limit all forms
of fat to less than fifteen percent of total calories.
Nori recommends a lower fat threshold between five to ten
percent of total calories. Insulin resistance is primarily due to
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access fat build up in liver and muscle cells. So
you can get this through Barnes and Nomal, Amazon masteringdiabetes
dot com.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And here's the film I was talking about too, Quorks
over Knives. This was like amazing to me. So those
of you who haven't seen this, I would highly suggest
watching this to kind of kickstart yourself to some BS
or challenging some BS systems that you may have as
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a habit.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Knives refers to scalpel. That's forks over scalpels.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Uh uh oh is the next one film?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Oh, there's a film for it. But see on the
book cover. You know, it shows you know, a fork
in the hand and then low knives it shows a scalpel.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That's kind of the choice either you know, eat right
or are you going to go under the knife.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Oh, this whole time I thought it was something else.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Like forks over knives that you need to cut meat.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
That's yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Mean it works, but this is even more severe.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Kind of looking at open heart surgery. You know you
don't fix your diet, They're gonna crack your chest open.
We'll first cut through this with a scalpel and then
crack your rib cage open and do what they do
cornary bypass surgery.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And this is and this is where I know I'm
going to open a Pandora's box here, but I'm gonna
do it because you know me, I gotta put the
moose on the table.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
This is a giant moose.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
When people say I had a triple heart bypass, I
have stints put in, I have blocked artery, I have
there's no second response of saying, you know, I really
have to.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Watch.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I have not been responsible for what I put in
my body that is directly related to.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Me being.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, uh paying for or the healthcare system paying
for your bypass. The fact that I had bacon and
eggs every single day of my life, and and and
steak and eggs, or you know, that's a matter of
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pride that I'm a meat and potatoes and a giant dessert.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
That's that's normal.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And and there's no connection and no responsibility between that
and oh my god, I'm you know, eighty thousand dollars
a triple bypass that. And it's like same with smoking.
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I smoked all my life and and you know it's like, oh,
poor me, I have lung cancer, but I smoked my
you know, right, and then let's do one more. Just
because I'm on a roll, I might as well put
all the moose on the table. Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Is obesity?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
It's yes, there are people who are just naturally right
and they they eat healthy and that's their body type.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And owens. I'm not saying also owens.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But there is a cultural Not everybody who's obese is irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
In what they put in their body.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
However, yeah, there are people who are genetically predisposed, but
that is easier. But the answer is again, plant based diet,
whole foods. The CLOrk density, you know, is pretty low
in these foods. CLOrk density is very high in animal products.
(43:48):
So and now these ultra processed foods too. So you
go on a healthy whole foods, plant based diet, your
weight's going to come off, it's going to normalize. It
could even go too low. I have when I'm treating
cancer patients sometimes their weight goes too low. We have
(44:08):
we have to just you know, adjust things a little
bit to make sure they get enough calories every day
so they keep their their weight up.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, so so I put all those moose on the table.
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We missed our break, so I have.
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To we streamed right through it.
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eating nutrition, what's good and that's so good for my body.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
We've been talking.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Welcome back to the studio Mark before the break, We've
been talking about diabetes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
We've been talking about the.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Food pyramid and the correction in the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So what can we do in baby steps right now?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So okay, doctor present, you convinced me I need to
take more responsibility for what I'm putting in my system.
Last week the challenge was a fruit diet. What can
we do this week? What's or for the next two weeks.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Maybe think about out the grocery store, you know the
center aisles, we're all the poisons and gravitate more towards
you know these it is either on the left side
of the right side where they have all the produce.
Try to fill your shopping card up with as much
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fresh produce as you can, vegetables, fruits, start eliminating all
the processed junk. And then the section is usually in
the back of the store, usually is the you know,
(49:40):
the butcher's counter or whatever. Try to build the consciousness
of what that is exactly? Does that contain any fiber?
Does it contain anything that's really good for me and healthy?
Or it just the cultural habit? What is that? Where
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did it all come from?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
It?
Speaker 4 (50:12):
You know certainly got processed through a slaughterhouse. So build
build that consciousness of what all that is and what
all that represents. When you walk past that whole meat counter,
when you walk past where the eggs are, the dairy section,
(50:37):
you know, the milk, the cheese, you know these are
products from a cow. Okay, so that the eggs are
basically chicken embryos. So think of it that way. Do
I want to really put that substance into my body?
And then the milk and the cheese, Uh, these came
(51:02):
out of a cow's udder? Well is it? Is it
inappropriate food for you know, a grown human being? Does
it contain anything that's healthy for me? Does it contain fiber?
But it does contain fat, saturated fat, and does contain
(51:25):
cholesterol and hormones and you know all kinds of stuff
they're not so good for me. And this business with
calcium that was debunked a long time ago, that you
need milk, you know, to get enough calcium in your diet. Well,
it turns out the countries that consume the most dairy,
(51:47):
the most milk, have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Wow, yes, America being one of them.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yes, European countries, America. And interesting because the milk also
contains the high amount of phosphorus. So the key is
this balance, this ratio of calcium to phosphorus, which you
will find in fruits and vegetables. You will find an
appropriate balance of calcium phosphorus in plant based foods.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
There's another thing.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
I didn't know, nothing to do with calcium, but just
the food manufacturers, you know, really really co opted that
notion that you know, we need calcium, we need dairy
for strong bones, and the opposite is true.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Yeah, these are all, I mean, just things that we
take for granted as the truth and the debunking and
that it's uh, it's to me, it's like shocking, like
how could that?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
How could that be? Like how could I not know
any of this?
Speaker 3 (53:11):
So but I'm not going to beat myself up or
somebody else. Uh, the fact is we now know there's
enough research to the shows you don't get hot milk
is not as good for you as originally told, right,
and the back of calcium and phosphorus is perfect in
(53:34):
fruit and vegetables, not processed food. That says that tells
you that you need this, and that this is giant marketing, giant,
you know, the the whole. I'm thinking to those those
commercials about eggs. I used to wonder, like, why would
(53:55):
they do a commercial about eggs because you know everybody eggs?
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Or why would they do a.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Commercial about you know, move eat you know cow? And
that I understand it's too foster a desire to eat
things that have been shown with happy faces. Right, yeah, yeah,
(54:23):
bring really what it is or bs creating and yeah,
so these are pretty big things, even though you've been
immersed in this for a long time and you understand.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
All of this.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Uh, it is really honestly, unless you know, y'all can
tell me I'm wrong, But I know that I'm hearing
stuff for the first time here that I had.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
No clue about.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
And you know, Peter Aside, I mean you you encroached
on that. You know that I don't know if I
really wanted to hear about the egg embryo thing. Uh,
I know it's a it's a good one. Too. My
older daughter was vegan for years and years and you
know it was from the pita basse.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
So so there's.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
One thing about you don't want to eat things that
are cute and fuzzy and you know animal.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Living being how dare you?
Speaker 3 (55:22):
Uh, there's nothing wrong with that, but it does have
this you know, oh, your tree hugger kind of thing.
The focus that I want us to really hammer home is.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
This is about your body.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
This is about what your body craves, what your body needs,
what your body uh is naturally going to thrive on.
So I my final word today is the focus on
protein was not a balance story. It's the focus on
(56:02):
fiber that makes our bodies thrive. Is the message that
I want us to leave here for me that when
I'm looking in my fridge or going to buy stuff,
I'm not thinking about protein.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
I want to think about fiber.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yes, because that's essential for optimal gut health. And gut
health comes back to the gut everything.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
And why is the gut important Because the gut supplies
the food and nutrients for your brain.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Serotonin is produced in the gut. Yes, resides the gut.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Last time you were on it's everything. Yeah, there you
have it.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
I hope you enjoyed another really informative and important discussion.
Thank you Mark Simon. We'll see you in another two weeks.
It's all all balance, piece in piece, out world, peace
through inner piece.
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