KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa (Tue, 16 Dec, 2025)

KCAA: Get Balanced with Dr. Marissa on Tue, 16 Dec, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time of days, top off an exhausting amster wheel and

(00:06):
into balanced living with Doctor Marissa from Miss Joy. Doctor Marissa,
also known as the Asian Oprah. Her mission to be
a beneficial presence on the planet, her purpose to be
your personal advocate, to live, lap love, learn, her life motto,
don't die wondering, take back your life with Doctor maursa pey.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And oh welcome You're do Didn't I take my advice?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm not using it? Get back hold Doctor Marissa.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
The Morning Show here on KCAA, NBC News, CNBC News
and NBC Sports radio station AM ten fifty f M
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Why so many places.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't want to maximize my splatter zone for more hope
and happiness.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
So there's no gossip, no scandal, no kwords, no Kardashian
talk here at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Instead, I want you to focus on your own reality
show and how you can be happy eighty eight percent
of the time. So I have topics and guests to
that end. And if you're looking for the headlines, go
somewhere else. You've got plenty of choices there. I don't
talk about any headlines because they give you a case
of the four a's angry, aggravated, anxious, and afraid.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
And I don't want you starting your day like that.
I want you to start.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Your way amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
So you can see I'm not alone in the studio today.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is hashtag Tuesday Talent in case you didn't know
what day it was, And the little promo here is
physician heal myself. I have studio a healer. Her name
is Shannon Grace. You know I'm not an MD doctor,
but I am a PhD doctor, and you know what
they say about psychologist. We're in it because we know

(02:10):
that we need some fixing ourselves, and I guess I
resemble that stereotype. So it's a good thing that my
Tuesday Talent guest live in studio is a healer and
someone I've actually shared a table with. We've been judges
together in several RLC fashion shows. Shannon Grace is a
healer who transformed her own childhood trauma into a path

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of inner healing through self care, emotional awareness, and guidance
from doctor John Amerol.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
She discovered that her true self. She now helps others
begin their own journey toward emotional freedom and wholeness. We
share a publicist.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And he asked if I would have her on the show,
and I said, of course, so please welcome to my studio,
Healer Shan and great.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Welcome.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Thank you so much. That was a really beautiful intro.
I'm just like sitting there, I'm like, is she talking
about me? This is so beautiful?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, you know, Wan did write it, but that's true.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
We'll give them some kudos, right. Anyways, so delighted to
have you. We start off every single show here with breakfast,
and that constitutes of taking a bite of my gratitude sandwich,
anchoring that positivity that I want you to start off with.

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That's why we don't do headlines and to replace the headlines.
It's always easier to switch when you have something to
replace it with, and that is breakfast. So top of
the button, those things were grateful for outside of ourselves
as we look around us, bottom of the bunt.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Something.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
What I want you to do tonight before you go
to bed, is be in gratitude for yourself. What are
some things about yourself? That you like, instead of going
to bed saying I didn't do that, or I shouldn't
have said that, or why did they say that about me,
which will definitely guarantee you into tossing and turning and

(04:23):
not a good night's sleep.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
So this is a good life habit. And I know
some of you I see eyeballs rolling in, have been
doing this for twenty one consecutive days or twenty eight.
Whatever it takes to make a good habit, you can
do it with me. Here those of you who are
not driving and tuned in right now at eight am
on my NBC news radio channel CASEAAAM ten fifty FM one,

(04:48):
I was six point five.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Please do not chat, wait till you get somewhere safe.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I'm so delighted to be back in my drive
time slot at you all. So let's start.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
What are you grateful for? I am grateful that the
Sunday shining. Now It's always shining somewhere, but in sunny California,
what I choose to call home.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It is a beautiful, bright day. And I just put
together a little compilation to bill whether it's beautiful, lovely
day of the sights, and if we have time I'll
play it. So that's what I'm grateful for, Shannon. What
are you grateful for?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
So many things at this point. Sometimes you have to
really dig deep, doctor Marissa, and when nothing is working
out in your life, you have to say, I'm grateful
for the bed I'm sleeping on. I'm grateful for this
bowl of oatmeal that I'm eating this morning. But for me,
you know, I was in that phase not too long ago.

(05:53):
Now I'm in this phase of thank you to myself
for all the healing that I'm doing on my own
and releasing the trauma from childhood and feeling the fuels
and crying when I need to instead of repressing it.
It's opening up so much more in my life that
I'm not repressing emotions anymore the way I was conditioned

(06:15):
as a child and it was unsafe to do.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
And just for a second, we're getting into the bulk
of the interview, and I just want you to keep
it simple for pred just a little.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
What are you.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Grateful for one thing? So I got oatmeal and I
got the.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, yes, yes, I'm grateful for I'm glad you mentioned bed.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I love the sheets.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
On my bed and gosh, hello, and when I get in,
it feels so good.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm grateful for.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
The comforts future comforts that we are so fortunate to
have as a right.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
And just having more and clean sheets in the roof
over your head. You're just like I do. I realize
like I am so lucky. A lot of people don't
have that. So I'm definitely every night when I slip
in bed too, it's like, my it's the favorite time
of day. Yes, it's just my safety, I guess.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, it's the top. We're the top either three percent
or eight percent of the world because we have a
roof over a head, right.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Food in our fridge and money in our wallet, so
we are absolutely So let's go to the bottom of
the button, which.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Is what do you like about yourself? And this is
weight training that I like to do with you.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm so grateful that my honorable Moniker Oprah has brought
the whole discussion of mental health into the forefront.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I credit her with that. And by the way, I'm
called Asian Oprah.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Because I was introduced to Oprah as the Asian Oprah.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh so yeoh was big.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Somebody else gave you that name. It's really thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Beck with introduced me to his friend Oprah so as
the Asian Oprah.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, so I do this weight training because it's great
that we have, uh now.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Put mental health as a as an open and honest
and no fear of sort of outing ourselves if we're
not feeling good in our mental health. However, I do
see the movement to try to look outside of ourselves
for relief, whether it's numbing food, drugs, whatever it is,

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or people. Instead this portion of the show, the bottom
of the butt, is to anchor and stress length. Then
your ability to like yourself, to care for yourself, to
soothe yourself, because frankly, my dear, if you can't approve
of yourself, how the fork do you expect anybody else to?

(09:13):
So I appreciate my ability to carry this show on
for six hundred and ten consecutive weeks. Now that's the
thirteen and a half years one thousand and five hundred
and thirty one podcast shows. But who's counting and continuing,

(09:34):
especially since they told me I would not last more
than a year because I don't talk about the headlines.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So y'all, I'm so glad you were wrong, and numbers
are great. I'm now over four point two million impressions
on this my home YouTube TV channel, So that thank you.
I need to give myself a little kudos myself.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't do that every week, but you know what,
every once in a while, I deserve my own too.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So what do you what do you like about yourself?
And you sort of refer to it earlier in the
top of the bun things that you are are now.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Open and changing. What quality in particular? Are you appreciative
of yourself?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I guess I if I were, because I was scanning
my mind as you were saying that, I'm like, what
would I focus on number one right now that I'm
so appreciative of? And I guess my kindness of my heart.
I am very empathetic to people because I know what
it's like to be down in the depths of h
E L. But then I'm still coming at the other side.

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I want to be careful.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
That was okay, That was okay, Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Did say that was okay. Coming out the other side,
you either have two ways to go. You can go
the dark side and this happened to me and I'm
gonna project it onto other people, or you can see
the bright side. And so I love that my heart
still stayed open and kind and I just want to
help people because I've been there on those dark times.

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And yeah, I love my kind heart.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I appreciate my ability to.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Host. I'm hosting a modjong. I created a group. Some
of you all know that I was supposed to be
on world tour. In fact, Sunday I was supposed to
fly from Shanghai to Taiwan.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And two days before the seven month world tour, they
found two blood clots and so I've been grounded now
and definitely no more World tour. But I.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Cried for a month and then I looked around and said,
what do I want to do? And one of the
things I love doing is playing majong, So I started
my own little little gang my league called Mojong Beaches.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Get it.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I live on the beach, so play on words there.
And I'm hosting a double table this Saturday. So I
appreciate my hosting and innovative fun quality.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Wow. I love that. And you found the bright side
of that happening. You're like, this is going to open
up creativity and connecting with people, and that's what spirit
does sometimes and it's perceived negative but it's actually going
to open up new opportunities and for you to find
yourself even more through this. Wow, I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Totally tell you're a coach. I want you not to
comment about me.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I want you to say what you are a pasion
of yourself.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I want the focus to be on you, not me.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Okay, I know it's hard for me to like you.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Know that coach? Uh uh yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
My ability to be open minded. So when people there's
different religions, there's different points of view, there's people have,
you know, their own lives and their own view of
the world. And I feel like I'm very open to everybody,
not saying no, it's this way, or it's this religion
or you know, my beliefs or this I'm I want

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to hear about everybody's experiences and why they believe what
they believe, and so just staying super curious. I love
that quality about me. I'm not shut off and I
don't think what I believe is right. No, we all
have our own beliefs and they think they're right and
they are right in their mind, and so I love
that about me. Just being curious and and open. I

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think it's a really good quality of mind that I'll
I will recognize beautiful.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm going to I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm just gonna put a story up to remind people
to come and tune in. But thanks for joining us
for breakfast.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
That was a good life habit.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I hope for a hashtag discipline. As my brother Michael
pernat beckwe we'll call it that you adopt.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
In your life. I'm here every weekday morning, so there's
really no excuse. I'm here live for you to all
join in and start your day breakfast with me. Thanks
for joining us for breakfast this morning. And the guarantee
is if you do, you will sandwich your day in

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the most positive way.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
And now for the topic of the day, it is healing.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
That is the topic. What is healing?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
As a reluctant woo ooo myself, you know, people say
healing and you're like, well, doctor, hospital, and we're not
talking about that kind of healing. We're talking about healing
that sometimes is beyond the five senses. It involves something extra,
not maybe not extraterrestrial, but extra. And she's here to

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talk about that. Her name is Shannon Grace.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
She's known as a graceful healer. So I read you
her bio earlier. I'm going to ask her.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I don't have an answering machine, and I don't know
if you're too young to know what that is.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Do you know what? Okay?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, So millennials and gen Z's go and look that up.
It's called voicemail to you now, But answering me, she's
we used to come home and get all excited when
that blinking light was going. But I don't have an
answering machine. I have a questioning machine, and when you
call me, it says, who are.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
You and what do you want? Who are you and
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Okay? Wow? Those are big open ended questions. So I
guess if you were to put me in a box,
who are you, Shannon Grace? I would label myself as
a healer and healing A lot of healers have a
really dark past, meaning they've been through a lot of

(16:28):
trauma and so coming out on the other side, you
want to help people because you've been there and done that.
So as a healer, I can empathize. I can you
know I've been there, let me help you through because
I've done the work. I'm doing the work. It's never
going to end. You're always going to be doing the work,
even until the day that you die. Sometimes you don't,
but I will. So it's always evolving. There's evolution to it.

(16:52):
So I'm walking the walk. I'm not only just coaching
and telling people this is what you need to do.
I'm actively doing it as well. And I'm like, this
is what it feels like in my body when I
release emotions, and sometimes I'm a puddle on the floor
and I can't stop crying. But I know the benefit
beyond that, So I guess, and what do I want.
I want to help people. I want to help people.

(17:14):
They will usually come to me when the doctors say
there's nothing we can do for you. That's when they
seek out somebody like me. Because they're starting to study
energy healing now, but we don't have the correct instruments
to actually study it fully. But just because you can't
study it doesn't mean it's not real and not effective.
So now they're starting to study reiki because I also

(17:36):
do reiki and how the benefits of people who have
chronic illness. It is helping them with their illness, it's
helping them sleep better, feel better. A sense of well being.
So they art I'm like, at the perfect time for
my profession because medical science is now recognizing subtle energy
healing and so they're starting to study it now. So

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I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm in the right time
to be doing this work. And I love when people
are like, I've tried this and this and this and this,
and the doctor said this, and I'm just I don't
know what else to do, so I'm going to come
to you and I just play. I don't know, I
just feel like a mother. I'm like, come here, my child,
let me hold you energetically. Let's figure this out together,
and let's get to the root problem of why this

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illness is happening, because there's always a root. But then
the pill that they want to give you is just
going to numb it or put the band aid. But
there's always a root cause, and so that's where we
figure out a lot of the times physical illness is
from an emotional part in their life that they didn't express,
and so the body keeps the score. As bessel Vandr

(18:41):
Kolk says in his book, it's true because somatic energy
healing that I do right now, energy is held sematically
in the body, and when it's liberated after a session,
that's when you don't have physical elements anymore. The disease
subsides or your view on life your lens. A lot
of people are viewing through that trauma that gets liberated,

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and you're like, I never knew life could be this good.
I didn't know it was felt so good to be
in my body because I was exiting my body all
the time from trauma. And I just love my work
and everywhere I go and somebody's like, this is happening,
and this is happening. Like I went out last night
to dinner with a friend and the waitress is like, yeah,

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I got into a car accident. I'm hurting, and I'm
just like my automatic response is like, get on my table,
like come see me because I want.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
To help you in the restaurant on the restaurant table.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, no, I know, no table, or I do my
interview on the table right now.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yah. Yeah that was I was a little surprised at that.
So yeah, I have to say.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So I'm still doing my Instagram to invite y'all to
come with us live. We love it when there are
people I see eyeballs rolling in. Someone already gave us
a heart. I want you to finger this one, not
the other one.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
If you have any questions, you may also have some
healing work that could be done. Uh so, and I'm
gonna see if she can give a short demonstration maybe.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Uh. I don't know how that's gonna work, but see
how that percolates in your head. But I know that.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Because I'm a scientist and because I you know, am
I reluctant woo wu. You know, when reiki first came
out and people talk with talking about energy healing or
sonic healing and all that, the scientist aspect of me
is like, I don't know. You know, we're very very
much versed into the traditional way of looking at Western medicine. Uh, disease,

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symptom treatment, very little preventative.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Now we've come a long way. And I actually my
US series is called Beating Cancer with Nutrition, and I
have a nutrition oncology expert that comes on twice a
month to talk about things like diet that we don't
even know how it affects us. And I didn't know

(21:25):
I could feed cancer cells and I didn't know I
could starve cancer cell so definitely we are opening up
Eastern medicine and this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
So that's the good news and the more and it
is unfortunate, but it's a good thing that when people
are on their last rope, as you said, they they've
tried everything else and then they come to a sort
of the end. Hopefully in time it will be just

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one of the choices right out front. And considering your
kind of treatment has no side effects, then I say
let's try that first instead of trying something that may
be traditional.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Doesn't mean that's not good for you. That doesn't mean
it's good for you.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And side effects are actually main effect. People who say
oh side effect, it's a main effect. That means people
have had that happen.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's not a side line or a side point.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, very true.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, So kind what kinds of ailments or I don't
like to say weaknesses or disease, disease, I like to say,
what opportunities do people come to you for for improvement?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, so pretty much anything. A lot of people come
to me with physical pain and they're like, I have
this pain in my back and it won't go away.
Some people illnesses like cancer, MS, they'll come to me
for that, and everything's energetic. And so I do another

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modality called pure bio energy and think of like your aura,
your biofield that extends from your body that holds the
blueprint of your illness. So when you have dissonance in
your field, meaning not a lot of energy in a
part of your field, then it'll show up. It's a
mirror in your body. And so if you continue to
live your life the way you're living your life, that

(23:34):
dissonance shows up as physical ailments or disease or pain.
And so you have to work on your field first
before it manifests in your body. So anything and everything,
or like a big breakup and they're like I can't
get over this person. I'm just feeling so crappy emotionally,
they'll come to me as well, and so I help

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them liberate that energy within their body, and it has
them see the world in a new way because even
though it's perceived as negative and why did this happen
to me, you can see the gift after that energy
is liberated because you're not viewing it through this happened
to me and I'm a victim anymore. You're like, oh
my gosh, I can't believe I put up with that.

(24:17):
And why did I put that? Oh, because my childhood
I didn't get enough love and affection from my parents.
So I received breadcrumbs from my partner and I thought
it was okay. And you seek out partners like that
over and over until you learn that lesson of self love,
and then you won't seek out those partners anymore. So
it's digging deep on why you're doing the behavior that

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you're doing, and it stems from emotional energy stuck in
your body, and then whatever happened in your life, you're
still stuck in that lens. And so once that's liberated,
you're like, oh my god, I can see the gift
in it now. It's life changing for people. It's really beautiful.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's great for those who are maybe feeling a little skeptical.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I like to put the moose on the table, which
is a Canadian version about talking about the elephant in
the room.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Oh, okay, we're going to do that right now. Usually
on the first half of the show. I keep it real.
So for those of you who say, oh, this is
all you know, woo woo, hairy fairy, no empirical evidence,
you know, people. You know, the snake oil, the whole.
You know, I don't think that, but I'm just putting

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the moose on.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
No people do think.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Exactly. Oh okay, people have called you a witch. Oh
that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Now. Why because I talk to spirit, I get dreams.
I get prophetic dreams. My dreams tell me a lot
what's going on in my life. I'll get prophetic dreams,
meaning it'll come true in the future. It tells me
I talk to my spirit guides, I actually see them
and talk to them. So that part is like shamanism.

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And if you think of shamans like on the mountain
and way back when we were burned at the stake,
for going out and connecting with nature, for talking to spirit,
for making potions. I mean, I do stuff with essential oils,
and I guess that's witchy. I'm just like, okay, that's
a witchy, then call me a witch. I'm just trying

(26:24):
to help you. And I'm help myself and heal naturally
and connect with nature because I do. I meditate and
I connect with the trees. I'm very connected to the
trees and they have healing properties. And so when you
put your feet in the grass, you get grounding from
the earth for Mother Gaya, the Shuman residence, which is
scientific it's seven point eighty three hurts, and when you

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go outside, it's the heartbeat of our planet and we
feel more connected, we feel more embodied. It heals your
body less depression, anxiety. Just by going outside and connecting
with nature, taking a walk, putting your feet in the grass,
you even amplified it even more. And so going back
to the old ways of connecting with earth, think of

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Native Americans with bare feet, drumming rhythm. You connect with spirit.
And so I'm very much I think and feel because
I see the benefits. And so going back to the
ancient ways of healing, I guess it's witchy. And you know,
do you believe in God, You're a witch. And I'm like, wow,

(27:27):
I'm just trying to help people, heal people. I'm like,
if you want to give me those labels. So that's
where I just part ways with people like that, and
I respect them, but they're just so much in their
box of really strict religion, where the religion tells you
talk about the spirit is bad, you need to go
to the priest, and the priest does it. You can't
do it. So I leave those people and I totally

(27:49):
respect them, but I don't I'm not trying to convince
anybody at all. I'm like, you have your beliefs, and
I have my beliefs, and you know, I honor you.
And then I go to the people who are actually open,
just even a little breadcrumb, I'm like, that's all I need,
and then you know I would be happy to work
with you. So I'm learning discernment and leave those people

(28:10):
be I respect you, and then go to the people
who actually are interested and curious. A lot of people
are curious when they hear energy healing. They're like, I've
heard of reiki, I've heard of energy healing, Like what
is it? And I want to explain, But I'm not
here to convince at all.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's good, that's that's a good line.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
So I.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Came from that, you know, I grew up with the
if you can't prove it, it ain't real.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, so sis, And that's why I call myself a reluctant.
But I've had so many experiences that are just inexplicable
unless I believe that we are all energy. And for
those of you who need something to hang on, to
here it is.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
And if you look at human body, human life, and
you're in the hospital, I don't want you in the hospital.
But people who are in the hospital, if they are
in the last stages of their life, are they pronounced
dead when they're when they stop breathing. No, they're on

(29:23):
a ventilator, they're artificially pumped in with air, but they're
still alive. When the brain is dead and there's no activity,
are they dead?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Are they pronounced dead? No, they're very dead, but they're
still alive. What is the point or the moment of death?
Is this? So what is this measuring that's created? Okay?

(29:58):
What is current? It's energy? Right, right? So when is death?
Death is at the point when that current goes flat, when.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
The energy leaves the body and is released back.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I call it.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
We come from love, we go back into love, loves
and energy. Right, that is the point of death.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
So for me, that's.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
The scientific explanation of why it has to be true
that we are energy, that we fundamentally are energy in
the body. We pay so much attention to our body
and forget that this energy And when I meditate, that's
what I'm connecting with. I'm connecting with the energy that

(30:48):
created the worlds, that created the trees and the grass.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
That not one one blade of grass is like another.
That's some energy.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
So that is and we're all we all have that
opportunity and I'm looking at the time. We're going to
be right back with more of Shannon graceful Healer talking
about healing. I do have to take a quick break
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(31:20):
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Speaker 2 (32:47):
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I have Shannon Grace here. She's a healer who transformed
her own childhood trauma into a path of inner healing
through self care, emotional awareness and guidance.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Guidance and I want to do talk about doctor John Ameroll.
She rediscovered her true self. She now helps others begin
their own journeys towards emotional freedom and wholeness. Please welcome
back to the studio.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm great, welcome back, Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I love that intro.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Let's talk about doctor John Ameral. I've heard the name,
but I have to be honest. That's all I know
is the name.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yes, So doctor John Ameroll. It was back in twenty twenty,
and it was during COVID. I had moved from Colorado
to Orange County and I was watching Netflix and so
Gwyneth Paltrow has it's called the Goop Lab. And there's
seven episodes on the Goop Lab, and so one was

(33:58):
the Energy Healer, and I'm like, I do ray he
what is this? So I watch it and I'm like,
oh my gosh, what is he doing? What is this
energy healing modality? Who is that? I want to do
that for a living, and I wann't going to want
to learn it from him. But I don't know how
it's gonna happen. I don't even know where he lives.
I don't know anything. So I research it finds out

(34:19):
he's in Westlake Village. They're doing day retreats in Malibu,
so I book. It's very very expensive, so I do
a one day with him and his wife, Christina. I
was like, wow, okay, you guys, when are you teaching this?
I want to learn from you, And they're like, oh
my gosh, we're so busy. You know, this couple they
work with all the celebs, they work with the top athletes,

(34:40):
billionaires fly from around the world to come get worked
on by John and Christina. They're the top of the
top in this field where the one percent all know
of doctor John amerl Okay. So yes, you might have
heard his name through the Netflix, but yeah, people know
and love him. He's been doing it for over thirty years.

(35:00):
So that manifestation fast forward to five years ago. They
want volunteers to create this digital series to teach this modality.
So they picked a small handful of people to learn
in person with doctor amerll. I got picked, hand picked

(35:21):
to learn person I know. I was like, oh my god,
I can't believe I'm actually this is a five year manifestation.
So I was driving from oc to Westlake Village twice
a week, and then I move. Now I'm in Malibu
and still filming, like I'm going to go today after
our interview, and we filmed twice a week and then
now we're blasting and now I'm going to be teaching

(35:41):
as well teaching the new people coming in. So I
just like, I still I'm still pinching myself that I'm
doing this modality learning from the master, and now I'm
going to be teaching, and it's just like wow, I'm
my soul is like You're meant for this. But on
the side, I've always hid. I have this fear of

(36:02):
being seen. I would rather just be in my room
and not have to talk or be seen. I wanted
to be a private chef or a chef where you
can kind of be creative but you can hide in
the back. That's like my personality. I'm really really normally
shy and introverted and having the trauma from childhood. I
was in danger if I was ever seen. So when

(36:24):
all eyes are on me, it hits fight or flight
like our freeze. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm in
danger with everybody steering at me. The universe has different plans.
Universe is like now you're speaking on podcasts. Now people
want to, you know, have you on stage and speak
about somatic energy healing and your journey. And I'm like, wow,
this is really pushing me outside of my comfort zone.

(36:46):
But having doctor Amerrill as my mentor and my teacher.
He's the most ethical, beautiful soul that just wants the
best for humanity and the person on the table. So
he teaches you it's not a person on the table,
it's this light being. It's a soul that is allowing
you to come into their energy field and help heal

(37:07):
them at this space and time, Like it's sacred and
you need to honor it. So he really ingrains it
in your brain, like you have to be ethical to
do this work, because some people can really mess with
your energy field if you have not good intentions, it
can really mess with you. So it's like you have
to be no ego. You have to just think of

(37:27):
the person on the table, not as a person, but
this energetic being that's just so beautiful and sacred and
honor that. And so that's where I love having him
as a mentor, because he holds that in his aura
and you feel it as you walk in the room,
just like this quiet strength and presence that's just so honorable,

(37:47):
and so I love having him as a mentor.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Now I just use my assistant Google. There's is it
a M A R L. Yes? Is he an MD
or a PAD he's.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
An m D. He's a chiropractor.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh he's a chiro Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
So he learned chiropractic and then he doesn't really do
it anymore. He just is energy healing, okay.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
And so it's not an m D though.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's a I forget what the chiropractor.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
There's a C. Yeah, yeah, because it's there's two others.
One is an MD on one I'm on Google.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
But uh so he's a d C and he's located
in West Side.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yes, And and.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
What is the what is the focus or what is
the niche?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So Somanic energy healing is there's so many modalities out there,
Like I do reiki, pure bio energy, and that's working
within the field. This combines the body and the field,
and so we have energy within our body and the
energy in our field as well. So it's combining both.
And so for me it was so just different because

(39:07):
I wasn't used to working in the body as well.
And you learning how the body keeps the score and
how you hold emotional trauma within your body, and it
creates disease and physical pain. I didn't know that most
physical pain and illness. I'm not going to say all
one hundred percent, but a lot of it is tied
around emotions that you didn't release, and so once that

(39:30):
is liberated, then your body no longer has to tell
you and bark at you saying your shoulder hurts. Your
shoulder hurts. It's actually pinpointing that part of your body
that's saying there's emotional trauma in there, and once that's liberated,
then the pain goes away.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
So I found this this will help some of you
who are need definition. Somatic energy healing integrates my body
awareness to release trauma and stress stored in the body
using techniques breathwork, movement, grounding, and touch to regulate the
nervous system. Moving beyond just talking to process emotions as

(40:08):
physical sensations. Helping individuals feel more grounded, energetic, and free
from chonic patterns. Addresses physical pain, anxiety, emotional blocks.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
So so what comes to my mind is Louise Hayes,
who is a teacher.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
She's on the other side now, but she also talked about,
you know, different pain means different stuff. Chinese medicine says,
you know, we have meridians and let's say you have
a point in your toes.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
That's what Chinese reflexology.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Is and if it hurts when you press there, it's
connected to a different part of the body. So I
can putting these on the table just for those of
you who are still sort of, you know, trying to
figure out what this is.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
That is that is the direction.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, I got it somewhat right, so exactly speaking of
childhood trauma, I am.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Also, you know, the book that I've been I was.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Supposed to go on tour with was The Aways Happiness
from Wherever you Are.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Michael wrote the forward and Neil Donald Walsh Conversations with
God did the back cover. But the point of my book.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Also is not to tell you how to be happy
as a psychologist, which I am, But I'm one of
the seven out of ten of us who also had
childhood trauma. And so if seven out of ten of
us have had childhood drama, why and we're the majority,
why do we think there's something wrong with us?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Why do we feel like we need to be fixed?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
So it has brought this whole like, Okay, we have
a superpower because we've had the situation to be.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Able to heal from that.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Now you go beyond that, not just past trauma, but
current trauma. So I'm gonna put you on the spot.
You don't know that I'm going to ask you this.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I have had an it's getting worse.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I'm going for a shot, which works like once every
nine months.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
This will be my second shot. Like so it's not
like a huge thing.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
But raising this arm is extremely painful, and so they'll
put a shot in this shoulder. Now, according to you,
I have some kind of trauma pastor present or it's
either past or president, can't be future, so pastor present

(42:35):
that is manifesting in this particular pain now when I
touch it. There's also some some stematic pain here. And
I did take a fall on Sunday. Oh no, I
you know, may have made it worse. I don't know,
but thank God tomorrow I get the shot and I

(42:57):
know it will bring me relief forever. So what would
you ask me if I came to you right now
and I know we don't have a lot of time,
but just sort of take me through.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, So the process would be what are you? What
do you want to work on in this session? And
so for you, you would say, my shoulder really hurts,
and you know my first thought and I wouldn't go there.
But my first thought is it's left shoulder, which is
heart chakra and left is female, so it's like it

(43:31):
could be mother wound.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, my mother or me as a mother.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Usually your mother, okay, Like whatever trauma you have around
your mother, it's not always, but it's usually.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
She was the one that put me in the hospital.
She was the one that called me fat, ugly and clumsy,
and I've done all that work, you know, over and over.
She just passed in uh June or end of May,
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
My bonus mom.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Passed six weeks before that, so it's been and then
the flight that was canceled was for her funeral.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
So oh so all of this has happened in the
last six months. So so.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
But but I had a tremendous healing with her in
April when I went to see her before she passed,
and she's never hugged me in my life. She hugged me,
and I wrote in the screenplay and I forgot about it.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
The final scene was her hugging me. So so there's
a lot of stuff. Yeah, so uh so the screenplay
is called Life by a Thousand Cuts.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
By the way, oh very much, sums it up right
there for me, like I totally understand your childhood.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah yeah, So so is this saying that I, I mean,
you're never done healing anybody else as you you can
finish with it. That it's not a light switch, but
the healings like this in my my b spiral system
spiraling up, you have always going up, unlimited possibilities, so

(45:12):
you're you're gonna feel it and then.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
You release and feel it and release and I part
of my process, my balance process, is to feel it
fully and memory and then you know, focus on something else.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Right, Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. It's just like grief.
It comes in waves and it crashes, and it subsides
and it crashes. And the same with our trauma because
I have mother trauma too, and uh, most of my
traumas wrapped around her in my childhood. And it comes
in layers. It's not just one chunk that you heal

(45:44):
and and you're done. It's just like think about when
you're a baby and you're a toddler and you're middle
school and you know all these layers within life and
all these thousand cuts. Yeah, yeah, you have to get
down to the root of those cuts and there might
be here and when here and when he and it
seems daunting. But once you start the healing process, then

(46:04):
it comes faster and you're not as like, oh my god,
I'm not in a puddle on the floor and I
can't function. Your body gets used to, oh this is
coming up. I'm going to feel the feels. And it
doesn't have to be for days or weeks. It could
be for five seconds. You're like, oh my gosh, this
is coming up. Somatically, I feel it. I feel like
I want to cry, and I have a little cry,
and then you're like, Okay, thank you, I got this,

(46:26):
and that was it. It doesn't have to be like
this whole big scene all the time. So it could
be a really big cut and it could be a
tiny little neck, but those thousand cuts, if it's a
big mother wooned, it gonna it's gonna manifest in different ways.
So for me, yeah, left shoulder, your left side is
the feminine, right side is masculine. Shoulder is part of

(46:48):
your heart chakra and so yeah, yeah, so I wouldn't
necessarily have that conversation with you on the table. I
would just you say, you have this field skill element.
So I'll start working in your fields and there's you know,
we don't have enough time to go through the whole process,
but I would start at your life force field. If
you have high passive, which you hold that energy in

(47:09):
your discs, ligaments, vertebrae, fascia, and so if I pelpate
your spine, then I feel there's a lot of energy
charge in your vertebrae. I notice, start in your life
force field. And if there's a lot of charge in
your muscles and tendons as your active system, that is
correlated with your emotional system. So your body tells me
exactly where to start on your body in the field,

(47:31):
and then will go through like okay, let's actually somatically
touch that part of your body. What do you feel,
what do you sense? Do you taste, do you see colors?
Do you feel a sensation? So you go through all
that and you connect with it somatically, because when you
have physical pain, you're disconnected from that part because it's

(47:52):
too painful. It's too painful to feel that and think
about that emotion shows up as physical pain, so you're
technical disconnected from that part of your body, so you
don't have to feel it. But your body is like, no,
you're feeling it. You're feeling it, and I'm going to
give you pain. It's like a barking dog and you're like, Okay,
I'm going to go get a shot and I'm going
to numb it to make it feel better so I
can lift my arm. But then it's going to go

(48:14):
away and it's going to hurt again, right, And so
that's telling you it's not going to go away. That
emotional component that disconnect from your body sematically needs to
be addressed. Then it won't. Then it'll subside by itself.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Define address How would I address that pain?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
So you would sit quietly? So sit quietly with its nod.
You're like, that's as over, or talk to it when
you're alone and you can connect. So you put your
hands on that part of your body and just tune in,
tune in and say, okay, I feel you in gratitude

(48:56):
for actually hurting, because it's you're telling me to be aware.
So thank you for actually hurting. Send love to that part.
Because your body thinks you are God. Everything that you
think and say, it believes you. So if you're like
you're hurting, I'm mad, I can't reach off into my cabinet.
You're obstructing my life. It listens to you, so no,

(49:18):
send it love, thank you, Thank you so much for
barking at me and hurting because it's bringing awareness. And
then think about like, what does it feel like. Is
there a color that comes up?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Is there?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Oh, yep? Red? Okay, and just acknowledging that, Okay, you're red.
Is there a taste that comes with that?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Bitter?

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Bitter? Is there a shape that comes with it? Triangle okay?
And then being okay with all of that, not trying
to fix it, just being okay, you're red, you're bitter,
and you're a triangle and you hurt, and that's okay.

(50:02):
I'm not going to try to fix you right now.
So with that, you're telling your brain to connect with
that part of your body and being okay with it
allows it to actually go, oh my god, I'm being
seen and heard and I don't have to clamp like
this anymore. And so just connecting with it and feeling
the fuels, and then after a while you might feel

(50:23):
an emotion come up because your body is actually saying
it's safe to feel it now because you're acknowledging everything
about it, and so when that emotion comes up, let
it come up. Let Sometimes a memory will come up
and you're like, oh my god, it that happened when
I was five. Oh my gosh. Just let it come up,
and just acknowledging you're okay, you're not trying to fix it.

(50:46):
Acknowledging everything about it. Then it allows it to subside
and relax, and then it starts to heal after that.
So it's as simple as that. You don't have to
come to me to get on the table on my
table for energy healing. You can do the stuff on
your own and your home, just sitting with it and
loving it, loving your body, even the pain, because it's

(51:07):
telling you something.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
It's alerting I'm allergic to pain.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
When when the doctor has you fill out the form,
they say allergies, I say pain.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
So so that is not an easy easy thing for me.
But yeah, Now, if if I was a good patient, right.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
And I started doing this kind of work, like, when
would I see results?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Can you tell I'm achievement oriented?

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
People who who have stuff like this and really glamp on.
If I'm an any student and do this, are we talking?

Speaker 3 (51:42):
The pain would take.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Six weeks or four weeks or instantaneous. I don't think
it's instantaneous.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
It can be. It can be because I've watched doctor
Amerll on the table with this one student. We were
watching her and she had pain in her sacrum. She's like,
it's new, I don't know why I can't hardly sit,
and so he had her actually reach behind and touch
her sacrum, and then this memory popped up of her
falling as a teenager right on her butt really hard

(52:13):
and it tweaked her tailbone, but there were shame behind it.
She couldn't show like she was hurt. She had to
be like, no, I'm fine, but she was dying inside.
So that memory actually popped up when she put her
hand on it, and she started releasing emotion and crying
and crying, and we were just so like, just so
grateful to watch that and hold space for her. And

(52:35):
it didn't hurt after that. So sometimes it can be instantaneous.
Sometimes it just depends on how deep the wound is,
how much you're willing to release and surrender and let
it go, because sometimes we hold on. I know I will.
It's painful for me to feel those feels and the
emotional intensity, so not consciously, but my body's like, nope,
I'm keeping you as pain because the patterns of the

(52:59):
past the emotion was too much for me to bear.
So it just depends on where you're at, how deep
the wound is. Sometimes it can be instantaneous. Other times
it'll take you know, more time to keep connecting with it.
And so I think in society also, we're so used
to just getting that shot in that pill instant instant,
like when is this going to work? And sometimes it

(53:21):
does take more sessions with yourself and to connect with it.
But once you start doing it, Marissa, then you'll Okay,
I know, I know the drill. My body is starting
to release. It'll get faster and faster.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
But you know you have to get the same process.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
You just touch it, you think it, you appreciate it, Yes,
address the memory. In the addressing of the memory. I
my process is you feel the feelings fully.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
And then you're able to release enough to focus somewhere else.
Now it's also you know, what you don't deal with,
We'll come back and deal with you.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
But at point is where's your balance of over dealing
with it? Okay, now you're marinating in it. Yeah, I
don't need clinical psychology because I just don't believe it's
my BS, my belief system that there's.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Harm when you continued to.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
Process over and over and over and all those memories
over and over. And you know, I'm also a student
of Abraham Hicks, so that is also you know, something
you don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
And I also absolutely believe.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
That you have to deal with it at some level
fully in order to be able to move on and
not rag all that, you know, oversized emotional baggage.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
So where is that point?

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Yeah, So that point is to not obsess moderation and everything,
just like eating, drinking or anything in life. It's like
if you do too much of it, it's not good.
If you're too little, it's not So you want to
meet in the middle, not become obsessed with it because
it is like a lot of achievement oriented people, there's
like I want to get this out of the way

(55:08):
and I want to like get on with my life,
and I want to do it now. That's not allowing
the process to come organically up. You can't force healing.
You can force crying, but is it really doing what
it's supposed to be doing. No, you have to like
have it come up naturally and process then and not
force it. So remembering forcing stuff isn't isn't going to help.

(55:32):
It's just going to aggravate you and frustrate you, and
you're like, this isn't working. You have to just give
yourself time and space and grace and say, okay, you know,
I'll sit today and I feel like I can actually
open up and I'm holding space for myself, and let's
try this today. And if it doesn't come up the

(55:53):
way you are perceiving, like, don't put expectations on it
because we all want to control to look this way
it's supposed to feel this way. No, it's going to
come up in different ways in different times. Like for me,
my sisters kids, they had stuff going on in their
lives and that actually triggered emotional stuff for me, and

(56:13):
I was like wow, So it came in an unconventional way.
I didn't expect it. I had to cancel plans with
one that day at a photo shoot. I'm like, I'm sorry,
I'm a mess because I let the emotions come up.
But it came in a way that I didn't even expect.
So you can't put everything in a box and it'll
come up with times that you didn't expect, so just

(56:34):
be open when it does come up and then be grateful.
I'm like, I'm so grateful you know that situation with
my sister's kids allowed this emotion to come up, and
then you kind of look forward to the next time
something does come up because I know it's changed my life.
Just releasing those emotions.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Right, and we're running out a time, so you're gonna
cut you off, actually already over, but thank you so much,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
You should be the grateful and graceful you to. How
do people find.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
You on Instagram? It's the Graceful Underscore Healer and my
website is the Gracefulhealer dot com.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
There you go, if you would end this with me,
It's all about balance, peace in peace, out world peace
through inner peace. Thank you, Shannon the graf Deller. Now
go and have the best day ever. Tomorrow's Doctors in
the House and the topic.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Is mirror, Mirror on the Wall, self reflection. We'll see
you tomorrow. Thanks for driving us.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Celebrate the holiday season with Inland Pacific ballets The Nutcracker,
set to Tchaikowsky's classic School follow Clara from the Land
of Snow through the Kingdom of Sweets with more than
eighty dancers and special guest artists, exquisite sets, costumes, and
cherished scenes. A must see holiday tradition for all ages.

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Experience Socal's signature holiday production with four performances at Bridges
Auditorium and Claremont on December thirteenth and fourteenth, and three
at Fox Performing Arts Center in Riverside on December twentieth
and twenty First Tickets are available at ipballet dot org.
That's ip ballet Dota.

Speaker 8 (58:48):
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Speaker 1 (59:47):
Ten fifty AM, don't forget that number.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
And for you young people who got here by accidentally
fat fingering your FM band select.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
There, we're in AM radio station, and AM refers to
more than just the time of day.