For Week Ending 8-8-25 With Guest Van Hansis

Frank and James talk to Van Hansis (Lucas) and the rest of the storylines.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome. It's j Spen Spotlight here on Jilja Media.
We are at the caboose of this train. I guess
I don't know. The other day with the last show
of the day, Welcome. Of course, I'm James Lott Jr.
You know who I am. I mean, that's crazy. And
of course my cohort ten years running, the award winning.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, thanks James. He has then award winning the.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Award winning Frank Bran And I know you guys just
seeing him, I mean you see him on the screen,
You're like, oh my goodness, he did show up. He
is here. We are so happy to have him here
with us. We're all in La so we're all we're
all burning over here. We're all like burning up over here.
You know him. He has two characters, you played both
a variation of Luke and a funny on two shows.

(00:47):
And he's been a bunch of other things. I love you.
I'm a big fan. He knows already of his welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Van Hanson's Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Welcome to the show man. Thank you. Folks are coming in.
Say come on in the wall is fine, come on
in the.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Water is fine. It's hot here in La everybody needs
a dip one and all.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
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this week I talked to the original person who played
Kayla on Days of Our Lives, Captain Mary Stewart. We
had the greatest converce. Oh my god, she was a
weekend at Bernie, she was in the Last star Fighter,
she was a lot of from the eighties and nineties.
We had the best conversation we laughed the whole time.

(03:18):
So checked out be out this week also on Forgotten Hollywood,
So we're checking that out too. So James is working
for you guys. I'm tired, man, I'm tired already. I
done after all that, I'm good, I'm tired. I get
out of it next time. But Frank, aren't you ask
the first question of our fan? Who's here? Who's who's
here today? And who is great? Has some great stuff

(03:39):
this week too? He has a great stuff this speak also,
But Frank, you go first?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Uh, then I will ask because I guess being considered
part of the first super cuple of gay super couple
and as the world turns, how do you feel? Yes,
I want to gay relationships in the shows on soaps,
but I feel like when they say, like when you
hear the word super couple, you're like, all right, front Burder,

(04:04):
We're gonna see a lots of them. And I feel
in daytime it kind of waxes in ways, It very
much wanes where we have stuff. How do you feel
it's changed from when you were on to like now
in terms of how much we get to see of
gay relationships?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, I feel like I feel like the main thing
is that it's no longer, you know, the first time
that they're doing it, Like I know, like on our show,
there's a lot of characters who are in you know,
like under the LGBT plus umbrella, and so in that sense,
I think, and I think the other shows also, I

(04:39):
don't really follow the other shows, but I think that
they have the same So I do think that.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I think that.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know, specifically for Lucas, while he's gay, I don't
he's never really had a I mean, he's had love stories,
you know, like since I played it at least, but
it's the stories aren't about him being gay like Luke,
and I think by nature of it was the first time,
and Luke was a lot younger, that it was very
much a big, prolonged sort of coming out story finding

(05:09):
Noah finding read all of that stuff. I mean, I
think that you know, they showed Luke, Lucas and Marco
in bed and apparently like beforehand they'd showed like Brad
and Lucas in bed and and so I don't think
that it's something that you know, they're shining away from
at all. Obviously, I love more because that means more

(05:29):
work for me. But uh but yeah, like and I think,
you know, like I do think one of the you know,
the tougher things is it's hard when you only have
a certain you know, said amount of characters that the
character can sort of interact with in a romantic way.
It's like, you know, like the the the the options
are limited. But you know, I'm I'm very you know,

(05:53):
grateful for Frank and for ABC and the show to
to you know, Lucas has sort of been on the
front burner for a bit now, and a lot of
it's been about his relationship with Marco and you know,
obviously kidnapping and all that stuff too. But like it's
it's really you know, it's really fun stuff to play,
and I'm really grateful to be able to play it.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I have felt that on both shows. It was you
playing Lucas on this one and you playing Luke before.
I don't don't you folks, don't we started? I told
him once on another thing we did. I loved him
and read I know, I was a buzz on my house,
Like I thought, it was totally stunted. They're area's taking
the storyline in the chat. Yeah he knows it already. No,
but I feel like at least they're flashing Lucas out

(06:38):
with other people. Yeah, you and Elizabeth.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, And I really do like that, like like because again,
like coming down to a show, like, you know, I
didn't really watch I didn't watch General Hospital beforehand, so
when I got cast, I started like, you know, obviously
you've got to do your research and figure out who
all of these people are and how you're related to them.
Lucas is he is geez, he's related to everybody. Everybody.

(07:01):
I'm like, I'm like, he's like the nucleus of of
of Carls. I think that's my biology term I'm getting
right or butchering. But uh but yeah, like like I
I I don't know if I mentioned a character who
I had no idea who I was related to the
other day. I don't think it's aired yet, so I'm
not gonna say who it is. And they're like, oh, no,

(07:23):
that's your so, and so I'm like, okay, amazing, but yeah, yeah,
like and I love that. I get like because when
I played Luke, one of the things that was, you know,
it was what it was, is I never really got
to interact much with any of the other younger crowd.
Besides Noah. There was a little bit with Maddie in there,

(07:45):
but like you know, Jesse's Softwig and Jen Landon, I
never really got to work with them much at all.
And so one of the really fun things about being
on General Hospital is that I work with so many
different people in so many different capacity of these So
it's really fun, you know, I don't know, being able
to have all these different sides of Lucas, like the

(08:07):
doctor's side and the brother and the family stuff and
romantic stuff and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's it's fun, right, Yeah, for sure. At this time around,
I feel like the writers have done a great job
with Lucas and fleshing you out and giving you that opportunity, yeah,
stuff that we never really get a chance to see.
Lucas have those those great scenes where he's just Charlie
talking to Carly.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's a sibling relationship and we get to see
that developed. Even in your brief little bit with Sam
when you first came.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Back, had one scene with her before she left, like Maxie, Maxie,
Maxie Elizabeth. Yeah, I loved early on. I got to
have a lot of stuff with Isaiah, which I really
liked a lot, you know, like stuff just aired with Felicia,
which was really you know, lovely to walk with her.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, Like Isaiah and Lucas, that nice chemistry there, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's kind I feel like with that Isaiah, they're just shopping.
I mean, like he's he seems to have chemistry with everybody.
They just I mean, because he does have chemistry with everybody.
He's an amazing actor to work with. And he's he's
such I mean, he's he's just so present. And one
of the things on daytime, like I know people everybody
always talks about how quick daytime moves, and that's obviously true.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But one of the things that I really I like
the pace of daytime and I like, you know, I
like how quickly it moves. And one of the reasons
I like it is because you kind of just if
when you're working your best, you're falling into it with
the other person, you know, you're like and and he's
definitely someone who's he's there with you on screen. Sometimes

(09:48):
you know, you could be working with somebody who can
kind of see them rollo decks there, they're lines like
it's like a teleprompter and it's like and sometimes by
by the reason of how quickly we work, we have to.
I mean, there's definitely times when I'm like scanning through
my lines and I'm not at present as I would
hope to be. But like that's what I try to

(10:08):
combat when I'm working with it on it. And it's
like people like him are like you know, Laura Wright obviously,
like they're always just there, Mora, They're always just like
they're so present with you. And I think that's why
he does chemistry with everybody because he's he's there and
he's listening to what the other people are saying, and
he's hot.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like Rochelle Patterson Walker says, man, you have chemistry with everyone.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh well, thank you, thank you. But it's again that's
what I you know, like I always especially coming back
to this, you know, there's definitely a learning curve with
what preparation you need to do. And I hate when
I'm not prepared enough that I that I can't be
in the moment with the other people, you know what
I mean, Like I was just talking about. So it's

(10:54):
really like when I when I came back to this
and crazily next week is a year since my first
shooting day. What it's been a year already, in a year,
it'll be August. I just looked it up because I
don't ever delete an email, and I think it was
August twenty second or twenty third was my first first day. Yeah,

(11:20):
it seems like a lifetime ago.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah that was yea, but.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, like that, like I always try to like, you know,
know my stuff enough so that I don't have that
I can be in the moment and be actively like
listening to what the other people are saying and doing
instead of what's my line, what's my line? What's my line?
What's my line?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
You know what I mean? How long were you off soaks?
I remember how all the birds? Maybe for ten years?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, so whenever, whenever, as the world turns ended, I've
never did you know, I didn't come in and do
like a week here or there another one or anything
like that. So it was a while a bit.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, given that gap, how long did you how long
did it take for you to kind of get your
sea legs again when it came to g h.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
It took Okay, So my first day I was like, man,
I got it. Boom boom boom, I'm back and then
my second day I basically had a panic attack. I
would say, uh, pretty pretty easily. But it also depends

(12:28):
on what the type of scene is, like the sort
of family stuff, relationship stuff that for me is a
lot easier and easier to fall into. Whenever I have
the doctor stuff that takes a lot of preparation, you know,
just by by nature. If I am not a doctor. No, sorry,

(12:50):
I hate to disappoint you, but surprise, surprise. So when
I when I whenever I have liked to do all
of the you know, jargones stuff, medical stuff, it's a
lot of you know, doctor Google looking up what does
this mean?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And that stuff? You know, whenever those scenes come up,
I you know, I go up to set and I like,
I can do it. I can do it, and I
can do it, and I do do it. But that's
when I'm like, still, I don't have those sea legs yet.
You know, it's not second nature, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
How much of it is in those moments where you
are looking for help. Is that your fellow cast mates
who have been in the hospital sets and doctors and
nurses for longer than you have, Like, yeah, man, this
is how you say it this.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Becky is very good at that. Becky knows her stuff.
But I mean, but I think with all of us,
those are the days where it's it's never like that, oh,
this will be a breeze, you know, because it's also
we're it's not just the the dialogue and the technical stuff,
it's what are you doing while you're saying that stuff.

(14:07):
And because it's a soap opera, a lot of the
times when you're operating on somebody, it's somebody that you
love or somebody that you have a very specific relationship to.
So while you're saying, you know, give me nine hundred
milligrams of the raz a pine, you know you're you're

(14:29):
it's also your mom that you're operating on, or whatever's drug.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't even know. I don't I thought that whatever medical.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Thing, medications, chlora, hydrath flora, hydra foam.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's okay. So some relations you have we had we
got to see it this week, especially you and your sister, Yes,
and and you know obvious, Laura's a powerhouse and everything,
and you've been around powerhouses, you know that already on
all these shows. But I just I just with that
one where I enjoyed. I want you to kind of
elaborate on there's a real dilemma, and it's also the

(15:13):
family situation. You're sitting. You love each other, but there's
this real and nobody's super innocent. No. I loved. I
loved how she apologized to you for talking down about
your relationships. Yes, I think a lot of gay folks would.
I would have loved to have heard that from some
of our siblings. So can you elaborate on just on
some on those scenes with her?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, I mean those scenes, any scene with her is great.
I love working with her so much. She's really really
really just like just as a person, as an actor,
I cannot say enough great stuff about her. She made
me feel so at home on the show, you know,
and when I was talking earlier about like not knowing

(15:56):
who I'm related to or whatever, she's such an encyclopedia
on the show that you know, she'll she knows everything.
But what I like that you touched on that nobody's
a lot. It's very rare. I think that things are
in black and white, and I think it's very rare
that in your relationship with anybody be you know, a

(16:18):
romantic partner or sibling and a parent, a friend, whatever.
There's so many levels in layers in our own lives.
And I think that, you know, her, the apology stuff
is great. Like there's people in my life who I
wish I would have had moments like that where something
gets can I swear, yeah, we get sucked up, something

(16:40):
gets maybe broken within a relationship and for whatever reason,
it doesn't get patched up. And that's something, you know,
I'm thinking specifically of some relationships in my life where
those are people who aren't in my life anymore and
I wish they were, and it's you know, it's it's like, man,

(17:03):
in hindsight, going back, I was so angry about something
or they were so angry about something that we went
like that instead of talking through it and instead of
understanding that the basis of whatever that relationship was was
so important and it's sad that it's gone now. So
I loved I loved her, yeah, because she was, you know,

(17:27):
being really dismissive of Lucas. And I mean, I think
Lucas with relationships. The other thing is he is a mess,
like he doesn't know Marco, you know what I mean.
Like and the way that I've been sort of looking
at that because it you know, you've got to justify
everything that you're you're doing insane. I think that he's
had sort of with everything that happened with Brad and

(17:48):
Brad lying about their child, there's a level of PTSD.
And what we know about Lucas when he was off
the canvas is that you know, he said, I didn't date.
I didn't, he didn't live a life. He didn't he was.
I am a doctor in Boston, and I'm gonna put
you know, what are those horse blinders called horse blinders?
Probably they have a fancy name.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Blinders.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
He put on his blinders. And so you know, with Marco,
it's the first person that he's has some sort of
interests in and who seems to like him too. And
and so I think that he's been while he might
be a little I don't know if immature is the
right word about it, he's he's holding on to that
really really tight. And from so, from Carly's point of view,

(18:34):
while it is condescending, she's like, you met him in
March and you puked on him, like you know, and
so I see it from her point of view, But
I see it from his point of view too, like
it doesn't matter. Like I've got friends. We've all had friends,
especially when you were in your twenties. You have that
friend who meets somebody in a week later they're married.

(18:54):
Basically you're like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Very true?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, yeah, so so I do. I really like that
the complexities of their relationship. But I think underneath it
all their they love each other so much.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, when I met Frank ten years ago, that was it.
I was like, I was smitten.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
There you go, there you go, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Van.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I mean one general hospital tradition is the nurse's ball. Yes,
when it comes around this earlier this year, were you
disappointed or relieved that you didn't have to perform? Instead
you just got to hang out with with Becky kind
of imitating.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I love those scenes so much. I love those scenes
so much, so I was very happy to have those
scenes with her. I loved that. It was just so
what had happened actually is that one of the episodes
was short, so they had me and Becky come in
and shoot those scenes to make the fill it out. Okay,

(20:02):
and what I and because it was those scenes were
had not originally been in the script. It wasn't plot.
There was no plot stuff happening, so it was just
them sitting and talking and commenting on what they were
watching and having And I really love that that type
of of of of stuff. But so I loved I

(20:23):
love that. I would have liked to go to the
Nurses Ball just because it is such a you know,
a huge tradition on the show. But months before it
they asked me, they were like, so, man, do you sing?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no, And they're like.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Come on, not even a little. I was like, listen,
I you know, I am aware of my talents, and
I am aware shortfallowing. Nobody wants to watch me sing,
and you can auto tune the crap out of it,
it will still sound so horrible. And then there was

(21:08):
some scenes with I think it was Lois and she
was like, we're gonna get you to sing, and I
you know, they don't tell us what's happening. They don't
tell us. You know, occasionally we'll know a little bit,
like I knew that I was going to get in
a fight with Carly, and you know, they let me
know that. But these scenes come up where Lois is
like trying to get Lucas to to to, you know, perform,

(21:30):
and I was like, Lucas is like, no, I can't,
I can't. She's like okay, wink wink, and I was like,
oh god, I have a huge I hate. I also
hate singing. I hate public, I hate singing in private.
I don't like I don't like the sound of my voice.
I don't like I don't like I by myself.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm not like may boo boo, doooo doo boom.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
No never I have it is. Public singing is probably
my biggest fear. I went to a performing arts high
school and I had to take like I was like
an actor, like plays actor, a straight actor, not musical theater.
But you had to take a musical theater class. I
would not sing in that class. That to to do

(22:17):
your final, you had to sing a song. And I
was having such an anxiety attack about it that the
teacher let all the other students leave the class and
I just sang it for her. It was horrible. I
hate it so so yeah, I'm really glad I missed
that part of the Nurse's ball. I would have sat
and watched the chat.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
What song did you sing? What what song did you sing?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I don't remember unlocked memory good enough to get you
to pass? Yes, yeah, but I mean she would if
if if she gave me an a f after like
you know, watching this poor kid have a have a
panic attack in front of her, then that would have
been heartless. So I picked I pity past.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That's so funny the fact that go back to Elizabeth
and that in that whole sequence, people were in chats
they love that. It seems so natural. Yeah, I think
you know, it's a will and grace moment. We got
to see, Yeah, that on date. We don't see it
on daytime very often. It's either very over the top. Yeah,
because on the top, but you guys are like just cheaping,
like like in real life we have feo friends. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
And I love I love those moments. I love you know.
And daytime as a whole is very you know, very
plot driven. It's like, you know, there's something will happen
and then we'll all be reacting around it. And you
know the worlds that these people live in, there's explosions,
there's you know, people coming back from the dead, there's
evil quinns, and it's all normal for these people in

(23:43):
their world. So I love finding the groundedness within sort
of the heightenedness of the world and finding those connections
and those friendships and those those quieter moments I think
are really really fun to play. And I think that
they they humanize the characters. And because again, these characters
live in such a heightened world that sometimes I think
humanity can or the simplicity of the relationships can get

(24:07):
lost a little bit. So when we do get those
moments to, you know, just to to have a talk,
I think they're really fun.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
There are two storylines that they gave you the beginning
that was curious for us through line for you. One
was Sam's death, yeah, and the second one because you're
like you were in it. And then the second one
was the Wiley situation.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes, So coming in playing those two kind of heavy stories,
I affected the whole canvents or whatever. What was that?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like, you know, it's that's an interesting question because like
I don't you know, obviously, I did my research. I
knew who why they was, I knew the whole thing
with Willow and Brad and Michael and all of that.
I'll tell you. The first thing that was weird was
having it. Well, he's not my son, but he was

(24:58):
my son. I was I've never played a dad before. Oh, actually, no,
I have, no, I haven't, Yes, I have, I have one.
And you know, like last time I was on day Time,
I was like the teenager. And then and then with
Michael being my nephew, I was like, what my nephew,

(25:22):
I'm four years older than you. I mean, and I
know that happens. I know that happens, but got it
could yeah, and then going into the same thing. I
mean it was I honestly at that point, like I
didn't know.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I hadn't.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
It takes a while to get ameshed in the world
and to know all, you know, everything that's going on.
So I just honestly just did my best with what
I had. I didn't know how close Sam and Lucas were.
You know, I got the you know, I did the research,
got as much as I could, and I just did
my best. But I didn't. But again, I don't, I

(26:02):
don't know, you don't. It takes a it takes a
couple of months to understand everything because the show has
been going on for seventy years. You know, obviously, you.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Know agree with you like yeah, I know that already.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Man, I met information.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I bet like, yeah, there's a lot of storyline, but yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
I mean, sorry, I keep interrupting, Go Frank, what don't
go for Van? Like like I remember, like Lucky had
a recast, a temporary recast who came in for a
couple of episodes. Those are the ones. I'm like those actors.
I'm like, Wow, you're coming in for a couple of
days and you're in the middle of an entrench storyline already.
I was like, and they they they do great, Like that.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Would do that because because it's not like it's a
regular thing. If they're coming in and they got it, like.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
And usually yeah, and usually it's like a heightened thing
is happening, you know, like that they need the character
on the canvas at that moment. I have no idea,
but more power to him right then.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
For you and in a relationship with with Lucas's relationship
with Brad, do you do you feel that there was
there is a possibility there could be a possibility for
reconciliation or them as a couple in the future or
do you feel like Lucas, because I feel like the
way it ended that Brad felt that Lucas is it
was like he was holding people to an impossible standard

(27:32):
that yeah, it wasn't real in like, in real life,
people are messy and they're not going to be like
this idealized version that Lucas I think would want his
partner to be.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah. Well, first off, it's a soap, so there's always
there's always room for reconciliation. Yes, sure, yeah, there's nothing
never ends, you know, so definitely, I think there's room
for reconciliation. But I do think I loved the way,

(28:02):
you know, that their relationship ended because I think you're right,
Lucas did hold Brad to such a high standard. But
then also I think Lucas realized that no matter what
Brad did, it that the betrayal was so much that

(28:22):
it doesn't matter. Brad can do the right thing and
Lucas will still second guess him, Brad can do the
obvious wrong thing, and then Lucas's you know, worst fears
are realized and that's not you can't have a relationship
with that, so you know, you're damned if you do,
and you're damned if you don't type situation. So so yeah,

(28:43):
so I think at this moment, you know, there's not
room for reconciliation, but I think definitely down the line,
you know, there could be.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
When you did when Lucas does have his mekey with
Marco there afterwards. Did you know that at that point
that's like, Oh, hey, this is gonna get It's gonna
come back later or was that evenna surprise to you that,
like I knew that was coming back.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I knew that because I was in his screen test.
Oh yeah, so, and then earlier before that, I had
gone up to Frank's office to to do a read
with like the final ten guys, and then they did
a screen test with like four guys, So I knew

(29:35):
he was going to be finding his way to Port Charles.
I love those seeds. Those were really fun. It reminded
me because Lucas was a drunk for a while. Yes,
I mean Luke was a drunk for a while. Luke
was drunk for a while, and like so there was
like a good I think like three months where every
scene I played like he wasn't just like drunk. He

(29:58):
was like always wasted to be able to like you know,
tap into that. Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
The drunkenness was fun.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
That was just a follow up on that is. Yeah,
as a working actor, I'm you know you've I'm sure
you've been on uh you know, the person that's going
into chem test with somebody that's already on our show
or project to whatever it is. But being on the
other side where you're already on this project and you're
chem testing, how do you approach it with the other
all the people that are coming in and chem testing

(30:28):
that just to make them feel like, hey, it's cool,
we're gonna have fun and get them relaxed.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's this is the first time I've been on the
other side of it. Yeah, definitely like tested first stuff.
You know, with actors who are on it, it's a
lot it's a lot easier when you already have the job. Yeah,
but it was interesting because it's obviously a really high

(30:54):
high stake situation for these these guys coming in. You know,
this is a it's a contract role on you know
what sometimes is the number one show on Hulu and
and you know it's it's the industry right now is
not in a good place. There's not a lot of work.
And then on top of that, since COVID basically as actors.

(31:20):
All of our auditions have been self tapes, which means
that we are taping at home, and you know, we
have a reader, we have a friend. Whatever we tape ourselves,
we send that tape to the casting director. Before COVID,
it was about half and half. We would self you'd
get some self tape appointments, or you would go into
the room and you'd meet with the casting director and

(31:41):
they would read with you and you'd have that interaction
in that one on one and honestly, I missed that
a lot. There's pluses and minuses to both of them.
But when these the pre the screen test, when the
final ten guys came in, this was probably for most
of them, if not all of them, the first time
you're going to an in person audition in four years,

(32:05):
five years. In the last five years, I have had
one in person audition and I went into casting. It
was for the prequel for NCIS Oh yeah, And I
went into casting and it was the casting directors first
time back having in person sessions and he was like,

(32:25):
I was like, oh my god, it's been so long.
He's like, I know, I know, So that's not something
that we're doing anymore. And it's that so the nerves
of going into the room are like that time's one hundred.
So I could definitely tell that a lot of those
guys were very nervous, and I would be too. I

(32:49):
so so having that sort of empathy for what not
just the stress of you know, of a screen test
or a final audition or whatever, but also the fact
that it's not normal the way it used to be.
It's not something like, you know, they haven't been in
the room with people, you know, in four years. So

(33:12):
it's definitely about just kind of like letting like being
a being as comforting to them as you can be,
you know what I mean, and being as open and
as warm and trying to make it as gentle of
a of an experience. Yeah, because it's it's stressful.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Do they do to do a couple of redirects in
the room for that person or does it kind of
like they get one they.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Move it got I think so with the so with
when it was the final audition that the screen test,
we did a blocking up in the office with each
one of them got a blocking they could ask questions, dadaa,
They got some notes there and then they all went

(34:05):
downstairs to you know, they put you in a full outfit, hair, makeup,
all of that, they do, like the whole thing. You
go on set and so you know then so then
a couple hours later. We did it at the end
of the of a shooting day, so it's probably like,
you know, seven pm, eight pm, nine pm, something like that.
It was late and the guys had been there for hours.

(34:27):
So then you go up and I think, if I
remember correctly, I think everybody got one take. But that's
again with soaps, you know, that's ideally what you want
to do. Yeah, you know, you don't have a lot
of time to get take after take after take. So
I think, you know, if you're auditioning for soap, it

(34:48):
really is can you deliver on take one?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I want to ask you a question I've ever heard
anybody ask you before, and I'm trying to think I've
seen many of your interviews back in the day. We'll
go back to th real turns for a second.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
As a world turn.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm gonna fan girl for a second. When you said
you don't always know storyline, I just wanted to think
you get the scripts when you get them, you always
always have in a future with Luke and Noah and
Luke and read yes, because we're I was talking you know,
ten to fifteen years ago. Also different time period, did
they at the beginning? So I sit down and talk

(35:24):
to you guys and say, this is what we're thinking
about doing. Is there weren't many gay characters onto you
on daytime?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Was there was there any discussions were you guys back
then or was it just like full steam ahead, let's go.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, we were not involved in there was there was
one time that I it wasn't about like the relationship necessarily,
but there was a time. There was one time I
went to the producers and I was like, we can't
do this. There is a scene where Luke and Noah

(36:00):
got jumped or something by some homophobic guys and like
Luke got I think initially in the script he was
tied to the back of a car and dragged and
in in in the scenes. The next week he was
like at a party and I was like, we can't
if if we're gonna tell this story, which I don't

(36:21):
think we should, I think that's just crossing a line,
then Lucas can't be okay, I mean, Luke, Sorry, Luke.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Luke Luke can't.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Be you know, at a party a week later, having
a good time when he suffered this insanely horrible homophobic
hate crime that happens to people in real life.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So that was the.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Only time I went and I was like, I really
don't think we should do this, and they listened to me,
it's great. And so it turned into I think Luke
and Noah beat up the guys were going to beat
them up or something. I don't know, but I mean,
it's much better because but and again I'm not against
a horrible traumatic thing happening to the character, but then

(37:09):
we have to understand but because it's different than if
somebody comes back from the dead, because that doesn't happen
in our real lives. People get attacked for who they
are are too often in our real lives. And if
we're gonna tell that story, that's fine, but we've got
to make sure that that story is then told in
a full spectrum, that it's not just like he's okay

(37:31):
with this attack or something. So that was the only
time I remember having some input on that. But like
with as returns, like I knew they were bringing reading.
I don't think no I didn't do any screen tests
or anything for him.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't think we knew how long read would be there.
But I think that because the reaction was so positive
that he stayed till the end, he was We liked it, like, yeah,
he was great. He was a great actor. Great actor.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, we liked to Lucia Poet says, that is a
wild blind blind spot to think that c would have
been okay, great, it's great they listened.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, it is like, it is really great that they listened,
like like, because I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I honestly, I don't think I would have been I
don't think I could do that. Yeah, Like I don't.
I don't think I would have been remotely okay with that.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, yeah, great.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Just I'm always fascinated too, a Buch, just the history
of soaps and and the shooting locations. So I always
like they shoves the shot on the East coast shows
the show on the West coast. Now that you've done both,
and certainly times have changed from as you're saying, you know,
pre COVID your back stuff. But what was it like
shooting is soap in New York?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I mean it's so we shot World Turns way way way, way,
way deep in Brooklyn, and we were in a very
the studio was in a very Hasidic neighborhood, and so
there besides there there wasn't a lot of stuff around

(39:16):
the studio like there weren't I mean, unless it was
it was very very hisstic, like in New York there
as certain hisstic neighborhoods that are very monoculture hasidic. So
unless so there wasn't like you know, like you like,
I talked with Laura because she shot a bunch to
New York and they were in the middle of Manhattan,

(39:36):
so they would like go out for lunch and they
you know, do all this stuff. And so we were
kind of just in the in the the studio all
day and then in the days the days were longer
on as the world turns, if I remember correctly, like
I remember getting there, I think we would get there

(39:58):
at like six in the morning, and sometimes you'd be
there till like nine or ten. So it was very
we were in our studio, and I mean, but it's
the same thing like you know here on on General Hospital,
we're we're in Los Fela's area and there's a lot

(40:21):
of stuff around, like people ordering food and people. You know,
there's there was there's this one time where I was
I had just by the way that the schedule worked out,
I had scenes in the very beginning of the day,
and then I had scenes at the very end of
the day. And I went to Kyle, who's our stage manager,
and I was like, because on as the world turns,
you would just be there, and also that we didn't

(40:42):
have internet or they didn't, right, Yeah, I mean I
sound like monsters. Yeah, so anyways, Yeah, So I had
like a very early day in the end of the
day and I went to Kyle and I was like, Hey,
can I leave for the entire day and come back?

(41:04):
And he was like, yes, you can. You are back
by because I had to block the end of my
stuff at like three thirty or something. Be sure you're
back by thirty. By three thirty, and then I went
to hair and makeup and I was like, is it
okay if I leave just because they had done their
work and I didn't want to, you know, and they
were like fine with it. So I went and I

(41:27):
went to the gym, I went home, I took a nap.
I think I went to Joe's and then I went
back to work and shot my stuff at the end
of the day. Yeah, and I was there by the
time they needed it needed me.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
So it's like, I don't know, it's nice being in
the in the middle of the city and like, you know,
like the other day there was an actor who really
wanted to get some fruit for some reason. So she
got an uber she got she wanted champagne mangoes, which

(42:04):
I didn't know. I'm not going to say who it was.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I didn't know what a champagne mango was. Yeah, apparently
they're they're they're a little uh, carbonated taste in its. Yeah,
So she went she got Newburgh, got some champagne man
coos and came back.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
So I've been to Grospel said, so I know, I
know where it is.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I like, it's nice. It's a great look like because
it's like because when I was on World Turns, it
was like a studio in the middle of a block.
Because in New York there's not like a lot of
student Like there's a couple that are like you know,
when you think of like Hollywood studios where you go
in a gate and then it's like all of these
different buildings and its own little you know thing.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
That's what.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
That's what General Hospital is. So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Nearby its place. It's really good over there. What is what?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
It caught?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Home? We've been there home, it's home. It's good. What
is a restaurant a restaurant? It's almost no, I'll go
that's good. I was at House of Pis the other night.
It's over there to Oh that's good. Yeah, yeah, it's good.
So I know that that whole area is not it's not.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
There's that really good Italian place, like right up what famous?
It's so good. I keep thinking of the New York
Italian places. I'm like, it's not Little Frankies. It's not
Frank's New York. Anyway, I remember what it's called. It's
so good. I ended work the other day and I

(43:32):
walked there and got Italian than.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, right man? What speaking one more time? As world terms,
it's one thing if an actor's wrapping up their role
and they're leaving a show, But what is it like
when a whole show and to be there at the
at the end. You know what?

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I really screwed the pooch with that. One one of
my big regrets is I didn't have I didn't understand
the gravity of what it meant for that show to
be ending.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh really, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
And I remember the last day I shot, the very
last day. It was really and I remember it was
the weirdest stuff like there was, you know, the studio
had like storage in the back and they were selling everything,
like they were like selling the chandeliers, the couches, the
you know, everything. And I remember the very very last day.

(44:32):
I was up earlier in the day and I shot
my stuff and I was done, and I remember being like, Okay,
I'm gonna go home, and you know, I did. But
a lot of the actors, especially I'd been there for
a really long time. They stayed throughout the entire day
and they watched everything. And I remember there was that

(44:55):
awesome Emma, my grandmother, Kathleen Whodows. She had that kitchen
at the Snyder kitchen. I remember I saw a picture afterwards.
They had put like a champagne you know those they
just had like maybe it was just like a row
of like one hundred champagne glasses like on her kitchen table,

(45:16):
and it was a really you know, I just didn't
understand the gravity of it. And I didn't understand you know,
I think that show had been on the air for
fifty six years something like that when it ended, and
I wish I would have just let myself absorb that
a little bit. So, you know, like, yeah, leaving a
show is one thing, but the show ending is definitely

(45:38):
something very different. And you know, it's sad. It's very sad.
And I wish I had. I wish I had just
understood what I understood more what I was a part
of in that moment, and I wish I would have stayed.
And I wish I would have, you know, if not,
you know, because I was on the show I think
for five years or something, and that especially at that

(45:58):
point in my life, that's a very long time been
people had been on the show.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Forty fifty Yeah, and and that for a lot of
and behind the scenes too, for a lot of a
lot of these people that that was their work life.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
You know, they met husbands there, they met wives there,
they had children. Yeah, So I wish, I wish I had.
I wish I gave that the way that it deserved.
And I didn't. I was also I was young, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeahs back to General Hospital before we let you go.
I have seeking to move Lucas around. You're moving Lucas.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Around, moving around, Okay, move them book.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I love that you have scenes with mo Oh my god,
do he It's funny because he's just like he looks
at it, looks like I don't want to fight with you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, he's like, oh god, this mad is bad exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah. Yeah, how are those scenes? They're pretty funny, kind
of funny.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
They're like, I he is so funny, Like I don't
think he I don't know if he knows how funny
he is, but he's just like his perspective is just
on life is at least I don't know him that well,
but like I always enjoy just watching him and like
he's very fun to work with, and I do I

(47:23):
like like like Lucas is, Lucas knows who Sonny is.
Lucas is petrified of Sonny, you know, rightfully, so so
I think that he's trying to stand up for him
and Sonny will just give him this look and Lucas
is like, oh god, oh god, the mob guy. Right,
But there was so my favorite moment in the whole,

(47:46):
like Lucas confronting Sonny. Stuff was I probably won't be
able to do it justice, But there was a scene
it's aired, so I can talk about it where Lucas.
I think it's when he goes and gives his key
back to Carly and Sonny's there, and so I had
to be talking to Sonny but Carly just the way

(48:09):
it was blocking and the way the cameras work sometimes
like angles get weird, and so Carly was right in
front of so Carly's right here, and then Sonny's right here,
and then I'm like over here, and so I'm like
talking at Sony, but I can't see him because because
Carly's in the way, but it looks like I can
see him. So I'm like going off. And then if this,

(48:31):
if this mountain view water is Carly's head, I just
see Mogo and just like peek out and like just
get smile, and I I was able to like storm
off or something. I was able to finish the scene,

(48:51):
but I died laughing just seeing his little face. God,
it was fun. Yeah, Like I I love the way
he interacts, like because he's like Olypus, you are not
a threat you.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh no, not all.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
It's like it's like a little puppy yapping at his
at at his ankles.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yes. And one thing, Frank, you have the last question
before the next question. I have to ask because she
is a goddess, she is mother, she is everything.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
More West Oh god, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Was in my mind.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I was like, if you're not saying more a West
after that?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh no, I mean I had to.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I mean I seen it for last everything, So please
tell us some stuff about Please tell using.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
There's I mean, I have good I see it. Wow,
that's how I feel about her. I I coming to
General Hospital and her being on it for me was
such a gift. And I've said I've told this story

(49:59):
before and interviews, but I'll tell it again. I remember
being on As the World Turns, Like on all of
you know, on General Hospital and World Turns, there's monitors everywhere,
so you're always able to see what's happening on set,
and I remember being on As the World Turns. I
didn't really have any scenes with her or any meety
scenes at least, just watching her, watching a lot of them,
but watching her specifically and being like, she is so

(50:23):
good she is such a like she's just so I
don't know, I like, so present, so funny, so feisty,
she can she her range is insane. And now being
you know, all these years later, it was such a

(50:44):
cool sort of full circle moment to have her be
the person that I knew from you know, also Tommy
who who is a sound guy. He's on our show too. Yeah,
the first thing was I was in he's like man.
But like having her, having her there and having getting

(51:05):
to have scenes with her and getting to play her nephew.
I mean, it's it's really like such a gift and
it was such a like such a just a cool moment.
Sometimes the universe just like aligns in such an awesome way.
I remember the first so I had been there a
couple of days before she had or before, you know,

(51:26):
we ran into each other and she didn't know I
was on the show. And I remember I was coming
out of the I had a wardrobe fitting. I was
coming out of the wardrobe room, and she was turning
in the corner because they put our wardrobe for the
day on like these racks right outside wardrobe to grab
her her clothes, and she saw me and she registered

(51:47):
and I could in her eyes. I was like, it's
like she's seen a ghost. She's like m I was like, yeah,
she's like. She gave me a hug, and she's like
you are you who you are? She's like, are you
the new Lucas? Yeah? And she screamed so loud, joyfully,
so loud that the security guard from all the way

(52:12):
down the hole came and thought like like something horrible
had happened.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah, it's so.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I I adore her. She's just such, She's the real deal.
She's also just like so kind, so smart, like yeah,
I don't know, like I'm just I'm I'm I'm. I'm
a fan of hers. I'm a big fan of hers
and I always have been and I always will.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
The fans not always say like the chat there. There
there were two women that I on Daytime that I
loved the most. One was Christian Fonds on days Okay,
I got to interview her and meet her, so everybody
knows that you can watch on TV my moment with her.
The other one is mar West. Yeah, I've never seen you,
never met her. No, I know anybody else I know.

(52:55):
I know Martha Byrne, I've met, I met I.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Never met Maura. Oh well, when you do, you're in
for a treat.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I want to faint. I'm wanna faint if you said
a chat James can't.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But I can't.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I can't meet her. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
She, I mean, she's she's every She deserves every every
drop of praise that she gets. She's she's the real deal.
She's it, and.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
We like her. We always get mad when they don't
right enough for her, rite her a certain way. We're
always like, come on, we know more we do.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I mean again, she can she can handle all of
like the really really dramatic stuff. She's so, she's got
such her timing is just impeccable with comedy.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, Frank, now you give to ask the last question.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Oh well, I guess I'll do two really quick ones.
One is I know the cast was on Celebrity Family Feud.
I watched that episode. What was it like for everybody?
What was it like? There was the reception when they
got back, knowing that they just came a couple of
points short from from women in the monny.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Oh I don't. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
They lost. They lost. I mean they got to the
final round the big money, but doesn't.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Everybody get to the final round? Isn't it just two
of them? Two?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Then it was uh dunel and can't remember the other person.
But they did they win against the other cell though
they did they won against the.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Other Yes, they didn't win any money.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
They the donation to charity.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
They want to get strong the restless.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's good, yesz hazing for them when.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
They no, no, no, you know what I actually, I
know that it aired and stuff, and I you know,
I remember hearing that they went out and shot that
a couple of months ago. But I think because we
were on a five week break, so much stuff happened,
like the Emmy nooms came out, that came out, So
I don't when I got and I only I just

(54:54):
started back last We started last Monday, and my first
day was Wednesday, so I didn't. I kind of forgot.
I was I was congratulating, like seeing people and congratulating
them on the nations and how is your break? Blah
blah blah. Forgot to ask how is.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Fam uh? And then less one? Who is an unsung hero?
From behind the scenes of g h oh oh, there's
there's a sound person, script our, our.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Our stage manager, Kyle is very very good at what
he does, and it's a really hard job. You're you're
organizing all the pieces in real time. So I would
say him definitely. Mark Tashner, our casting director is love

(55:52):
Mark Mark is he's been on that show. If you
have watched that show in thirty years, your actors that
he put on that show. He's such an awesome casting director,
such a great guy, and just like.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I like, he must.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Know every actor in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
He does.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Yeah, he's yeah, he's also, I mean he's he's well Van.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I tell you, this show ten years ago would have
gotten it started was withrom Mark Teshner. So I was
that after West TV. I was at Best TV, and
I had said, is there just is there a General
Hospital after show? No, James, you know, you cast it
and play together. That's how I got Frank okay, But

(56:43):
another host there had got Mark Teshner for an interview
on this other show and someone said, wait, James is
starting a GH show, maybe you should meet And so
I met the other girl and it was candiceborog Rushrow.
We love her and she's like, James, would you come
on and co a co host with me? I'm sure.
Mark Teshner was the nicest guy. Nicest guy. Yep, I'm

(57:08):
dead serious. And he gave me I was card. Still,
he gave me his card, wrote his cell phone the
mard and said, James, when you start your show, if
you need anything.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Oh text me.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So I was like, but you know, people, this is Hollywood.
Oh okay, I mean he was nice. I'm like, okay, sure, whatever,
thank you about you know whatever? So about I cast
a show, Frank and I I do. We did the
test shows. He got cast. It's like this like months later.
So I gave a call. I was like, you know,
I want to have guests on the show, like, who's
the PR person at g H. Thank you. I won't
hear from him. He probably think who's this guy? And

(57:38):
texted me for whatever. Five minutes later, I shit you not.
Five minutes later he was like, hi James, so good
to hear from you. Congratulations, here's the person. Yep.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
I mean. And that's like just such a good example
of like somebody who has a powerful person who's also
leading with kindness. Yes, And I think that that's so
important of like if you've got power, if you are
in a decision making position, and I think that everybody.

(58:11):
Like one of the things I love the behind the scenes,
you know how it's how GH is run because to
a person, everybody that I have interacted with has treated
you with respect and even more than just respect, kindness,
And I think that, you know, like, that's something that
I think we we just need a lot more of

(58:35):
right now. And and so it's not surprising to me
to hear that story about Mark because of how he
interacts with everybody. And so also just I sort of
on a flip side, I'm I'm I also am an
acting coach and before General Hospital in New York, I
worked at an acting studio and I had taught classes,

(58:57):
had been I still have clients that I take over
Zoom and sometimes I'll get clients who are going in
for GH and I'm always like, I was like, ah,
is this a conflict of interest? So I went to Mark,
and I but the fact that I felt confident enough

(59:18):
just to go to him and be like, Hey, would
you rather me not work with these clients? And I
knew that he'd just give me, you know, the straight
answers like no, He's like, it would be a conflicent
interest if I was coaching them. You are just you
know what I mean. So like just being able to
like have that like you know, to be able to
trust that I can go to somebody and be like

(59:39):
because this had been like my third client that I
had put on tape when I sort of realized because
I kind of knew, I think, like what storyline they
were going to be in. I was like, I don't know, yeah,
and I was like, so just being able to go
to him and be like, hey, I've got this question
and for him to be like, you know, I don't know.
It's it's a small thing, but it's just but there's

(01:00:01):
there's been times in this industry where you don't feel
comfortable going to the people in power, you know, because
of you know, ex ra y or Z. So the
fact that with everybody with Frank Too, I can go
to him and ask him anything and he takes he listens,

(01:00:21):
and he you know, he takes into account, you know,
what you want. Even even like like when they have
to reschedule my days, they're so nice about it. It's
never like, Okay, you're working Monday instead of Wednesday. They're
like they go to my people and like ken Van
work Monday. We would really love him to be able
to if possible, and like just coming from that sense

(01:00:45):
of like instead of just telling you what you're doing.
You know, it's so nice and it makes you know me,
you know, because I'm not on contract. They don't I
they they can't. Like everything has to be approved by
me too, you know. So of course I'm going to
do it because they've been they've all been so so

(01:01:05):
so so good to me that of course I'll move
my days and you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah, that's good. That's good to know. Van. Thanks for
being on the show. Thank you chat thanks man for
coming on a hot Sunday with us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yes, I'm going to the pool. You guys enjoy chatting
about whatever you're chatting about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well, you're walking back anytime. Van. It was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It was so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
We did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
All right. I'm gonna go, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Take care of so folks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
That was Van Hanson's for you. There you go kids,
So yes, and I would say it's on camera. He
was a fan of Frank in his work and he
was I had to leave the room. I'm like, shou
I step away and get alone. I'm like, I tell you,
people love you, Frank. They look everybody talking about what

(01:02:02):
you love Frank. You guys love Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
No, it's uh, you know, they tolerate me just to
get to you. I'm the candy show of the tu
Rold Center. That is James like, Junior, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think I think you're the rapper. I think you're
the inside. I think in the middle, I'm just a stick.
Oh that's that was fun. So so thanks fan answers.
And next week, folks, it's Carlo Rota and it's Sidwell.
We got Sidwell next week on the show. Frank you
ready for that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Uh, everybody, let's give take a moment to give it
up to James. Uh he is. He said he was
bringing the guests and he is bringing the guests a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Free and Franka is like surrobably, I was like, you
got who I always always so Frank when I book
him or I tell Frank I'm booking and that. But
and they love you, Frank is awesome. We'll show your
first live chat. Oh wow, congrats the first live chat
with us. Frank who they're laughing Frank, what I mean?

(01:03:05):
But no, But I I said, you know, I told
Frank earlier in the year. You guys, as we had
to our ten year anniversary of doing some sort of
gh program on all various platforms. I was gonna bring
in guests. I told you that, and now I'm doing it.
I'm bringing a guests. I try to have guests all
the way to end of next reus when it's our
it's our anniversary. Frank, you're trying to keep trying to

(01:03:27):
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
So it's it's great. I mean not any chance to
hang out with you and the fans talking about Jay
is great. But uh boy, it's been nice to be
able to have some of the talent from the show
kind of back. It's a it's a nice, nice return.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah, we have it all the time. So folks, Jay's
working hard for you guys, so thank me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yes, yes, absolutely, of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Course it's off for you guys. Okay, so now we'll
get to the rest of the show. That was a
lot of fun. You get some backstage stuff. Frank got
that radio DJ voice, so buddy, yeah, you are thinking.
Frank asked for a good question. He does. That's really
good questions. Well we gotta have there. Okay. So the
rest of the show sucked, Well, see you guys next
Sunday with Carlor rote, I just just kid kid, like

(01:04:16):
that's everybody by I want to bring up. I'm not
think why I want to go first. I'm not thinking
I should go where I the storyline that's tickling me
because okay, it'll go first because it's a continuation of
last week. Had Kathleen Gotti on last week, as you

(01:04:36):
know we love her, well this week she really would
she she is put I love that they're doing this
because yes, it makes no sense. Well why wouldn't the
character not think this way? I feel like it's for
the character. She thinks she rock on Grandmother. I'm frid episode.
I mean the looks I had, I had, I mean

(01:04:58):
Laura Lily adds ups here like this bitch is crazy.
I mean they were looking at they were looking at
her like okay, wait a minute. I mean when she
was like, it's real ground blooded her family. She and
she really believes this child has a tie to her.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
You know biologically, you know, fights from a certain point
of view. Sure, yeah, well but part of me is
like I'm willing to go with that just because the
way Lulu's acting. Oh, I mean, yes, we get it.
It was a very traumatic thing. But boys as usual
Lulu just takes everything right to ten and that's it,

(01:05:37):
or actually like fifteen right, just takes her well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Going to Carly, we gotta get her out of here.
I'm like, Cary is like, slow down for a second bit,
Just slow down, girl, let's what's going on. We look,
we have to get around, gonna run out of town.
You gotta help me run out of town. And I'm like, okay,
calm like that's what Loula. She was like, calm down, girl,
Like is she really a threat to Rocco? And like
you said, luluis she's got so she's like twelve, she's

(01:06:02):
a thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Well, I think the frustrating thing too, is that with
Lulu what irritates me about it is that she will
go to one person, whether it's Laura, and have the
same talk, and Laura will Laura will say like, hey, yeah,
you know it's you know Lisa's uh you know, uh
uh you know the bridge she changed. You know, she

(01:06:25):
was a different person by the time. You know, while
you were in a coma she changed and involved in
She's a different person. So you've got to allow for
the fact that other people are gonna view her in
a different way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Than you would.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
And then now she's with carl and you think that
lou and they play it where Lulu is like taking
it in and absorbing what Laura's saying. It was like,
all right, you know, I can look at that. And
then we see her again with Carly and it's like
she's back to zero where it's like we got it
to get rid of her, Like, what's the point. Why
are we having the same scene and Carl endsn't telling
her the same stuff. I'm like, why we keep repeating this?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I agree, it's lazy writing. I agree. It was like,
we don't need it. She said, you have to to
five people have the same, different conversation of the same
the same sort. So we lead to this, Oh, I
guess had one conversation with one person and they go
to the storyline's fine is all we need. That's all
we need.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
She's just gonna keep going and going and going to
that she can find the one person that will agree
with her. It's like, thank you for seeing my side. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Modern Wall says Dante annoyed me when he called her
a criminal repict. Just said, so is your father? Yes,
Oh my god, I know. Dante was sitting there he was.
He was like we was like, oh my god, this
which is great. He was like he was he wanted
to jump out and seat Laura. Try me good, just
try me good. Like okay, even Ja, I liked we'll

(01:07:42):
go back to the second. I liked Jason and Lezel's conversations.
Actually it actually made sense. And I also liked when
when Rocco and and Danny were talking about it too.
I liked that because it's like it's it's Jason's right.
It's like he is getting older, you know, the parents
have to respect them again. It was kind of nice

(01:08:04):
the way you talked to it. She kind of got it,
like she was like she was like, you know, you're right.
I maybe I'm going to you know, if I feel this.
And because she knows that Jason gets Brett. Yeah, and
that's what it is. So and and Laura too, Laura
gets it. Also. Lulu is just cuckoo and so that's

(01:08:24):
what's annoying. It's just kind of like, Okay, we understand she. Yes,
she was a bad person a long time ago. We
toly get everybody wasn't so lowoman and when Dante brought
up and you like what brought to it. Did you
like when Dante brought up their past, I mean and
old Brooks past. Yeah, that's part of it. You we
It's almost like we as fans understand why they don't

(01:08:45):
like Les and Brett. We kind of we get it already,
and we kind of get it and didn't. Laura's answer
Lulu also like we kind of get your feelings? Are yours? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Like however, Comma, you know things did happen. We're different,
you know. I thought Post were saying they'd love that
Rocco and Danny's talk was a good one. Roco expresses confusion.
Jason lethose scenes are really good. I mean, I'm sounded
saying it's like, give us more of that stuff, not
the same talk to you with five people and Lulu.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
And I'd rather, I mean, I guess that's the reason
that Rocco is like talking to Laura or wants to
talk to other people that know brit whether it be
Obreck or Jason. Because yeah, but I liked about that
scene with Danny's like, yeah, Rocco knows. It's like, yeah,
I don't think and I know she's not my mom,
but I still have questions. I still want to know them.
But yet Lulu is just so and Dante to you know,

(01:09:43):
to an extent, just so blinded by like their their
view and their history with Britt that they're unable to
get to really kind of relax and kind of understand that,
you know, we gotta, we gotta. We may hate her,
but Rocco. Rocco doesn't, so we can't. We have to
out him the opportunity to kind of get his own answers.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Well, I think you know there is and and and
A brings up Lulu and Dante must have some guilt
somewhere about each were away from Rocky at some point
for a while, so they would if they're playing, that's playing,
they're over protect us is kind of playing into it
so much. But then I go, well, Lulu, just in general,

(01:10:23):
obviously it's not forgiving. There's no Brooklyn stuff going on.
So she's just if if everything's black and white and
that's it. And but you come from the Spencers, and
because car your Spencer did not like that Spencer's when
they were black and white, there were always shades of gray.
I mean all of them, Bobby all they were all
shades of gray.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Right, Oh yeah, I mean I mean I feel like
Luke and Laura accepted and saw those shades of gray
and other people. Yeah and so yeah, I mean Luke
luked he can see the pluses and minuses of anybody, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
And Lucky You also kind of falls on the saying
it wasn't too judgmental either. He's like, okay, like, well, Christine,
he didn't judge her, and he was like wow, you know,
but I think Lulu's just like really just stuck in
the mud, just you know, just like everything is this
way or that way, and that's it. You have to
all believe what I think. That's not the Spencers, and
they weren't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
They weren't like that. I did, like Liezel just letting
that they know, like you know that they you know,
don't don't fool yourselves in thinking that that would have
been such a surety that that embryo would have come
to them by any other way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I mean, I mean, Lee's obviously had kind of a
point on some level, but it's like, no, again, lil
and Dante have a right to feel how they feel
about it, Like I never said they shouldn't, but I
was just always just say though people do change, things
do happen and your son is asking questions, Yes, let's
have vegetation, let's just working together, and let's and let's

(01:12:01):
just talk about this, you know, and and tell you
will tell him the bad and the good, Like why
I say, why not tell them everything? And then he'll decide, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Know, like I do, like Jason, that is like, yeah,
just be honest. That's I will trust you, right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I mean, so it's like it's just kind of I
think there's storylines to me. I'm kind of enjoying it
at low. It's because of old Brightton all of stuff,
and we know BRIT's coming back, so that should be
interesting to see how that plays out. But then on
the other side of this, Frank, on the other side,
we had a brief what you've seen of Chase in

(01:12:39):
Brooklyn and adoption.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah, where that's just all like hey, I can't give it,
but I can't I can't focus on that. Well, the
geo stuff is just so up in the air, like,
come on, Brooklyn, you can't multipask.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Right, He's gonna think that I I really don't want
him or whatever. I'm like, boy, I'm like, okay, we're
going in that direction. So I don't know. I just
think I just think that it's it's once again pacing.
Now we have ever see Brooklyn and Chase. May we
see Brooklyn and Chase and other things. That's fine, But

(01:13:16):
now it's like all of a sudden, this came out
and there's no movement with with Geo. There's no movement
or interaction with him. So it's like this whole big
thing and now once again now so the back burner,
so to speak, they're all on canvas, but they're all
doing other things.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, and I guess, uh, I mean, and maybe this
is their way to cover like the you know where
you need to see real time the people processing and stuff.
And so rather than just having them recycle the same
kind of conversations again and again between Brooklyn or Geo
or Dante and Geo, is that they just have them

(01:13:53):
off doing separate things for a while and we'll just
buy whenever they decide to put it back together that like, oh,
they've all had time to kind of process this and
maybe we can then get some forward movement on this. Maybe.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
So that sounds great, and that sounds like a nice plan.
I can't believe in it. I mean, I don't I
don't know. I mean, I just I just I just
feel like I feel like they really built up Brooklyn
and Chase as this couple that will be together for whatever,
and it's just kind of died out now. I was like, Okay,

(01:14:27):
I mean, I don't have to rotate, but it's kind
of like we still need to mean, we still need
them on there. I mean we need them. We needs
to keep going. I understand why you can't just keep going.
You have lockheads. Have something happened with Geo and and
uh and Brooklyn have to get together somebody there. I
just I don't know. I just feel like there's something
that needs to happen. They're all too separate right now.

(01:14:51):
After all that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah, it's like and maybe I guess that's something with Jakes,
like you don't know, I guess what their bigger plans are,
things that they're But there's also part of me it's like,
don't be afraid, Like there's always going to be story,
so you never have to hold back, just keep just
keep moving. Uh, you know, and it's cooler to have
like smaller climaxes amongst characters and that everything has to

(01:15:15):
tie into like a big event. That's uh, so you're
stalling some things, waiting for this big event to happen,
whether it's a marriage or divorce or whatever it is,
and let everything come out. Like, no, let's have have
smaller character arcs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Well, we also had a couple of scenes and it
was more to prop up a scene between Carly and Willow.
Of course, where we had chasing Willow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I will I will testify, I will testify for you.
It's like, so, does he still like Willow? Uh? I
hope not. I don't know. No, I don't think so.
I think, you know, he said too much about Brooklyn.
I mean, I think he's always going to have a
soft spot for Willow. But I don't think I think

(01:16:03):
like in a loving sort of way. No, I think
as think Brooklyn's his. They can mean, of course, if
they keep playing this up where Brooks like, I don't
really want to talk about an option. The jails were
not then the baby, but I think as of.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Right now, no, because they had Willow tell Isaiah obviously
I cheated on Yeah, I was Mary to chase. Really
how I missed that? Yeah? I cheated on Michael with
him it was like, oh, this she's a hoe. No,
he didn't say that, but he's just like, wow, okay,
and he did that, So I mean, and I see,
I know, I know Isaiah right now, it's just talking

(01:16:39):
to everybody. He has chemistry that we say with everyone.
But I'm like, I'm seeing something there. I'm like, like, okay,
Amia says, Chase is always like as a person, am
I'm not trying to mat you guys go all crazy.
I'm just saying I did. They were together and they
had scenes together, and I'm just like, I'm just wondering.
I mean, i didn't know what's guy on. And I'm like,

(01:17:00):
because I mean, why we why we getting chased Willow scenes?
Who cares? I mean, they're like they're not even I mean,
and then later you have to have i mean chasing
Michael gives her friends obviously, but they have chasing. Michael
get into it, actually said stay out of it, don't
say nothing, and Chase just kept going, I'm just wondering

(01:17:20):
this whole thing is about it just like now it
pulling Chase into their mess.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
And it is this child thing is getting interesting because
i mean, yeah, now hearing what Sidwell's reasoning was for
uh oh yes, driving the judge. But so you think like,
oh well, then you know, sure they'll go back to Willow.
But now that Michael knows that Willows well at least,
you know, ninety eight percent suspects that, like she's the

(01:17:46):
one that was moving around. It's like, all right, don't
don't count on Willow getting those kids anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I was actually impressed that they brought They actually explained,
had that cituwel talking to Marco about that. It was like,
here's why I did this, Here's why I have planned. Yeah,
from what he wants to do that that is that
is getting at Sunny to his kids. So he's going there.

(01:18:14):
He has a long game. So I thought, oh, okay,
I'm glad now we know at home kind of what
the whole point was. See, you know, I thought you
I always say that, give us a scene. It just
says one thing, you like, just explains one thing, and
we got it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So like, am all right, uh, thank you, thank you
g H writers for you know, like Dylan said, so
you don't be like, why did he even do this?

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yes, but Frank, I thought of you, Oh well, I
always think about you, you know, in those private moments
don't tell. No, here's the deal. I thought I see,
I thought you because you said this last week and

(01:18:58):
basically Porta kind of said it this week. Why answered is?
Uh rank? Why does Curtis feel so secure that you
ain't gonna do nothing? Is like really, like you really
believe this, like after everything you said it last week
and port kind of said it too, after everything last

(01:19:20):
week last week, they's done on this show. To them,
we called it truce. So now we get working on marriage.
What so freak explain it to me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Yeah, well what I love that the attack is not
going to be We're gonna get Stellar fired.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I know she she's catching a stray all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Telephuh so, I mean just Drew. I mean he's his
own worst enemy. Yes, you know, it's like he just
just because he wants to try to feel like he
can get up on somebody that he ends up just
shoot himself. Like what's Drew? Once Curtis finds out like this,
oh man, it's uh you know, it's what Yes, one

(01:20:05):
thing to come from Portie, especially when uh por did
something wrong for sure, but come for Stella where at
best she just you know, like she helped somebody get
the treatment that they needed. Uh, and then Drew wants
to take her down. Just Curtis, clean him out, clean

(01:20:26):
him out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Right. I'm just like this is I'm like, I said, okay,
you can't. But then they have a seat with him.
I'll go where do you live, Jordans? I mean, I
have to be there when they inspect your house. You
had to play some buying Baltimore. I'm like, what are
you doing over there?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I mean there's always you know, great use of the
park set.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Of course, your favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
There you go. You just got to see them going
there to that that that park bench. Uh, Like they
just filmed Isaiah just as he comes into the park,
like he's like, I'm in nature. Oh this is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
What what he looked at? You looked he looked over there?
You're staring at him, just like laughing and talking.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Oh. And what I liked about it is that they
were way more animated as he's looking over anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
It's called panamime acting, frank a background actors. That's what's
called so yes no. So for me, here's what I need.
I need. I need Curtis and Jordans to have sex
in her new place. I need Isaiah find out tell

(01:21:40):
Porsia and then they have sex. That's what I need.
I don't courage a portion together anymore. Bye bye bye.
I don't even get I'm done with them. But I
think we have to need to separate these couples now.
I don't need to break them up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
I think that that Porscha and Isaiah we have sex
before Curtis and Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Oh okay, you're here, you heard that. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I think just based on this, Isaiah's gonna just start
kind of warming his way in with Porsches, like go,
wait a minute, uh and if you lose to that,
and then starts getting like Curtsey even being genuine he
said you wanted to play relationship, and he's out there
just flirting with Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
We're gonna do. People already talking about this. We're gonna
Paul here, Paul a long time, so you will chieve first?
Who will cheat.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
First?

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Will it be? Come on, Curtis and Jordan's Isaiah? That's
probably his name, wrong. I'm sure as long as you
put the p in there, it's fine. Okay, Well proshe porsi?
Which will you think? Kids? Go ahead and voting to

(01:22:56):
Paul pol a long time. Who are the gonna chief first?
Curs Jordan, Isaiah Porscha. Actually, everybody, hold on one second.
I'm afraid I have to go. I'll be right, I'll
be right black.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Uh jail j there he goes, Uh yeah, I I
don't know. For me, I think that it's gonna it's
gonna be h Isaiah and Jordan, Isaiah and Porsche. I
just feel like that's that's where the setup's going. Isaiah
has now seen the two of them kind of chatting,
and he's gonna go back to Jordan and just start

(01:23:33):
planning seeds you to start making some midroads, because you know,
I feel like Isaiah has been pretty obvious with pors Like,
you know, I think I'm more interested. I could be
interested in you more than as my chief of co
chief of staff. So yeah. And plus Curtis, even when
he was talking with Jordan, he even thanked Jordan for
helping him kind of clarify that. He was like, Hey, yeah, this,

(01:23:54):
we could have fallen back into nostalgia and old relationships
and and continue you but nope, you're right kind of
send me straight. I'm gonna fight for my marriage. So
I feel like Curtis's mindset is trying to repair it,
and I feel like Isaiah could throw a monkey rench
of that by talking to Porsche and knock that that
derail all that progress, and it's gonna be Isaiah and

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Portion are just knocking boots.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I think they agree so far. It's seventy one twenty
nine Isaiah and Porsche. Dg disagrees. He thinks thinks that
Jordan and Curtis are far too close that they know
not it's inappropriate. They won't see it coming, but it will.
Somebody goes Curtis and Nina too. Maybe, Oh my god.
People think it will be cursed because he's so on

(01:24:41):
its high horse. But folks are saying, Isaiah Porscha have
great chemistry, porstion, Isaiah would be an easy couple. It's
seventy three twines. People are saying, ivea, Isaiah Porscha in
the chat, so you can's keep voting. So we're go
gonna find out if they do this. First of all,
we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
This, but I think we can all agree on everybody
is that whatever happens, they won't tell Trena, Oh my god, exactly,
she's too fragile. She cannot hear this sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Don't even started on that. Yeah, even tell us a
portion and Isaiah together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Oh yeah, where she was like hello, what to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Curtis though, and I'm told about himself. It was like, Curtis,
I'm paraphrasing, of course, but you like nobody, look at
your girl. Better work on your marriage. All the chemistry
she did, but she went but her and Porsche, She's like,
my mouth shut, Porscha. Yes, she like, yes, you did.
I love you, makes you keep your mouth shut? She was,

(01:25:47):
you like that better. I'm not parafraids, of course, but
you're like, yeah, you glad that my mouth shaken. Tell
you I'll have to say. But she's not saying nothing.
You know, you're not saying you get her mouth shut.
I say, be with Liz. They have Kimraschry too, like this,
don't cash everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I mean it could be with Willow.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I know that they have Chirachy also.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
But I think I think I think I think they
hate towards portion. I think we we've seen it, the
running on the wall. I think it's they're heading towards
whether it's not even sex but kissing or something's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I mean, at some point he's gonna take one of
these ladies up to that cabin and he's renovating, and
it's gonna get freaky that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Yes, they're gonna get there folks in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
A big comfy bed here in Cain.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Mm hmmm. Uh so yes, Uh, Drew makes a new
enemy with Martin. Well that's the whole thing. So yes,
we know that Stella is just a collateral damage in
this whole thing. He's nothing against Stella. Jew has nothing
against her. It's all a collateral damage thing. And I
agree with that. Also said she's gonna get caught a crossfire.

(01:26:57):
So I mean it's because I don't think it's her
has things against the other folks that are you know, involved.
And so when you gotta get on that phone, Hi,
I want to talk to you wherever does insurance wrong
and whatever? I was like, okay, but Martin, you your
big ass mouth, some nice.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You just can't say keep it quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
What part of you're a lawyer, What part of keeping
quiet do you understand?

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Especially like what don't talk. Don't talk to Drew about it,
touch to anybody else, talk to Laura about it. To
Drew right, because like, how can you trust that guy?
You you work with them, you know what shitty is?
Get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I know apparently this week we got some talks about
Scout leaving and Lexus don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Oh man, don't even be started in that storyline, because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Lexus has always had a problem kind of well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
And I shouldn't say that storyline. I should say the
scene that we got this week between which ended up
being just a Alexis adjacent scene, which me, it's me getting
back on my my my soapbox about the Monica recast,
Like just recast Monica. This should have been a scene

(01:28:22):
between Alexis and Monica. I know, why was it this?

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
So like, yes, I understand people who want to and
absolutely honor Leslie. Absolutely she deserves all the accolades, all
the flowers, as the kids say these days, for her
for her work and her performance, uh and her in
credible tenure that she had at g H. But holy
cal like these don't give us like this scene screams

(01:28:48):
to have Monica in it, and so it's like when
it's just like recast her, she still has she has
she feels like a very very important need in the show,
so I don't know anyway. So that's that's that whole
scene just bugged me because I was like, why are
we doing this? Why are we doing this? And Scout

(01:29:08):
told Drew, yeah, uh, you know, listens to nobody. He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
So does this mean we're getting a custy battle between grandmother?
And I think in New York grandparents do have rights.
I think all states grandparents have rights. So I wanted
to do a whole thing here between Drew and I
don't know. I'm just I'm just I really don't want
to see that either, but my but I guess that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
We're going well, And I mean the other thing is
we also have like Sam's updated will that is somewhere
on Diane's desk that was never uh never found, Like
I don't know why it never came up again after
Sam's death. I mean, I don't even know, Like I mean,
Sam wanted to you know, Scott, to be with with
with the Dante, but they weren't legally married at that point,

(01:30:02):
you know, So it's like I don't even know how
much standing it would be. But the fact that that
we all know, we all saw it, we all know
it that that that will exists, Like why are we not?
Why is it not become? Why doesn't that come up?
We're just supposed to forget that that exists.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Right, So I have all that going on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Well, and plus it was also irritating just to see
like Drew like go to Elizabeth and you know, he's
just like, you know me, I've got it. I've got
to fix It's like, dude, you also got to know
you're the reason that willows into this mess.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
So Lizabeth brought up the past, which I was shocked.
She said, any of the things I did to you?
And yeah, crowd, I almost forgot the whole John Doe thing,
you know what it was when it was Billy Miller.
I almost forgot about that. I was like, that's right.
She lied to everybody, kept him from his family. I'm like, so,
I guess it just feels like she can't judge. She's

(01:30:56):
done some ship that she likes she shouldn't be doing
either over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
But it's also like she also then knows, like, hey, Drew,
you just got to step back for a while, right,
Let this other person get their life together first, and
then if you guys get together, great, But you've got
to give the space.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Right, Well, there's that true loves Drew and that's that's
just kind of they turned him to this giant narcissist.
He he bulled doses his way through everything, doesn't care.
He's like Cyrus has no self awareness. Just it's just
it's just full, I want this, Let's make this happen.
That's it. It's all he cares about. So I don't know,

(01:31:36):
I have no idea. I mean, I have no idea.
What I don't know idea? Now his purpose seems newter
because they kind of they're keeping Willow really away from him,
they really keep it. He's like She's like, really, I
see everything. I've seen everything. I get it now, like
they're playing it that way. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
I mean, I can understand Willow wanted to do that
because what if she ends up getting involved again with
Drew before the the custody hearing in October, Like like,
I don't think that's good for her her chances.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I mean I know what
else happened last week?

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Uh well, I mean we you know, we got uh
And I was gonna tell Carly about Joss being a
WSB agent and then get subducted like I'm trying to
keep you out of stude in how you you would
treason if you told her that she was a w
SBA agent.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
They played it was so funny as they played it
kind of comedically also in mixed in, which is kind
of weird. I'm sorry for the zip times when I
wouldn't expect anything last, you know, I was kind of
like she was like, I get it because she's keep
up going for me. I guess it's kind of like
and you're right. Then the kind of got personal like
were you mad? You said it was? It was just
off and about well you were double? Were you a

(01:32:58):
triple agent? I can't remember what was that like? And
she was like, excuse you ever, I wasted my granddaughter.
Like so it was kind of like and Anna cried
against each other. So that's kind of thing against each other.
So it's like, as she said later to Jack to Jack,
I appreciate she can't to you about Joss and you
know about Vie guy came. You can't to warn me
because I don't want to fight with that. Like they

(01:33:19):
don't they don't really, they they're they're fine. So I
don't I understand. I didn't understand all of that. I
was like, okay, So he kidnaps her and tell her
to to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
And then she later at the Metro polight She's like, oh,
I've got to tell you something important about a family
member and you just you can see his eyes all
the time. Usual, what are you're dying?

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
I'm not gonna tell you until this time? But next
time she storms off, I'm like, and then of course Friday,
it's like, I wanna tell you. So you're not gonna
like it? Now, how do you? I do bet that
she doesn't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Uh yeah, probably not. What what I did like is
like when she does come up to the Metro court
with Carly, Uh, it says that, hey, Carly is like,
is there something that's so important that you need to
tell me right now? When I'm trying to hook up with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
My man for a little bit for a weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
I mean that is It's like, is it really? Does
it really need to happen right now? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Yes? So no, I just I'm right to come out
to you. I'm ready for it to come out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Which I feel like it's gonna come out. What's like,
because we know that Anna's gonna tell Jason to go
if Jason will go to the resort and see Britt,
but then Joscelyn's there as well, so Jason could see
jossly there start putting it all together. Yeah, or I
wouldn't be surprised if Anna even tells Jason that that
Joss is a WSB agent.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Well, because that's the season come up to me, I think,
because she's like, come on, let's let's talk, and I
would when she said you need you need to get
five bread under now and he says in the premium,
tell me everything you know, so I think it might
come out also, and again the confidence he'll keep for her,
which you know, for them, it's something I don't know.

(01:35:13):
I just I just because there's that whole storyline that's happening.
But back to joson them and she goes to see
Carle and I was gonna leave town and it is
and all stuff. I don't know. I have no feeling
for against Vaughn. I have no feeling for against him.
I don't I like Josce's w s p H. I

(01:35:34):
don't care for that, but I have no feeling against
him or anything he's fine, I guess, And we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Ask you, James, and you say you don't like josss
w SBH, how do you feel about the w s
B as a presidence of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
It could be better? I think I think it could
be written better. I think it's they're right there. They
seem like they're so and now I guess the start
wrapping up. It's felt like for a while they were
just kind of sprinkling it in. Big deal is a
big presence, but sprinkling it in. But now it seems

(01:36:12):
like they're wrapping up. But it's tied to brit mm hm.
So I'm wondering after this thing comes out and comes
home and everything there, I mean, I don't I don't know.
I mean, it's gonna be a continued presence because on Friday,
you know that Josh is not gonna see Britt and
and then with her walking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Up, yeah she's not gonna turn her head.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
So no, so we're not gonna see her. So but
they will meet up eventually. It's gonna see its eventually.
But I just think, I don't know. I'm just like
I the idea the WSB's that's that's a staple on
g h ol over the years. I like it. I
just I don't know, I just kind of I'm not
impressed yet.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess for me,
as I suppose what I started watching as a kid, like,
WSB was a big, bigger part of the show at
that point, literally, you know, the show them went into
their mob ears and we've kind of been revolving around
that orbit since. But for me, and we've had little
dabbles of WSB stuff throughout the years too, But uh

(01:37:10):
so for me, it's like, oh, at least the gh
that first got me involved in watching as a kid,
like the WSP is a part of it. So it's
like for me, it's like, yeah, I like having the
WSB as a kind of a as part of the
canvas of the show. So, I mean, I like the idea.
It's like, you know, we do have to have somebody,
the somebody the younger cast involved to be able to

(01:37:30):
keep those carlines going, right, I get what you're saying that,
you know, I mean, certainly Emma makes the most sense,
uh that, you know, so because.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
It goes back in the day they really wrote story
for them WSB, DBX, all that there was really there
was some really good story with and I feel like
you could do that again. Because the PCBD is tired,
so who cares about them? This WSB has a larger reach.
It's also more potential for storyline, and you have folks

(01:38:04):
who are there and stead originals. You can also kind
of call in mixed with I said, I'd almost I'd
almost buy anybody functional hate this. Of course, if Emma
and Jill got involved with the WSB somehow over Josh,
that to be made more sense. And then there's a

(01:38:24):
whole thing going on there, and so I think it
just kind of I just think that I don't know,
I just kind of feel like they threw Johnson to
the story where they play Emma as very committed to
this whole thing with the animals, animal testing. That's one
thing that went through line. Emma it's been very clear
about how she wants to stop all that, you know.
So it's I'm like, so it's you could do some

(01:38:47):
great stuff with them. To answer answer your question right now,
I'm under, I'm under. I'm just whelmed. I'm not overwhelmed
or underwhelmed, just whelmed. It's like it's just it's okay.
It would be better. They introduced these little side characters here,
and they're like, where's that chick that was on a
few months ago? It was a thrown in his side.
She's gone. The other chick who through the deliveries, we

(01:39:09):
haven't seen her since. You never see homeboy what's his name? Dalton?
Rarely see him, yes, the Office for twice. So I'm
like saying, it's it's disjointed. It's not, it's not. I
don't know. I'm not getting the excitement that in the
old days, the left Handed Boy, you know, it was
hugely the Ice Princess. There's all this stuff that was

(01:39:31):
so involved. I just think that they could do some
great stuff. But it's not written that way.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
You know, because I know it is. It makes sense
that that Emma would want to follow in Anna's footsteps
and choose always a hero overs. I'd be down, I mean,
because she seems like the show has made it clear
that like, Nope, she's not a WSB. She's all about
the animals right now. But I'd be down if you
know they she's secretly also working. She was recruited for

(01:39:59):
dv X posing as a WSP, so she thinks that
she's part of some WSB thing that she's not telling
anybody about. But it's really DVX. I mean, just for
a way to get like, yeah, let's let's get Emma
involved in that side of it as well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
But well it's not brings very chat about the budget.
Well I get the budgets, but they still conduce there's
things you can do, the things you can do even
emotionally that I get better than just what we're getting.
I mean, I don't know. I just think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I mean, the days of shooting on location are going
to be very few, yes, but it's still I mean
the show still does go around the world. I mean,
you know, I mean you know, whether it's to Germany
or you know. So all they do is I throw
up a nice sixterior, you know, be a roll shot
of some location that we're in there. So I mean

(01:40:53):
we have gone around around the world on the show
still in the last five six years, ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
So sh Age age little Noah, bring him on the
show and make him WSB. Yeah, I mean that's Robert's grandson,
that's Robin, and that could be fun. Let's unless you
make him a doctor like them by that could be fun.
Haven't you on WSB and Lovers and Anna and all that.

(01:41:19):
I mean, that could be alegam, that could be totally.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Fun, totally I'd be absolutely do for that. Uh. The
one thing that did not enjoy and I'm tired of
and I don't want to see any more Seeds of
and A get he is Geo and Emma debating about
whether it should be Emma or Geo that goes into
the office to look for stuff like that seed repeated

(01:41:42):
three times three times last week, where it's like, holy cow,
we are talking about the same thing you guys had
already agreed on and settled. But for a third time,
this is awful.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
I mean right, I mean, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Could not do anything else, have them talk about anything else,
I would have been fine with. But we got it.
It had to be this conversation. I know we talked
about this, but I still think, I like what we
already thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I know, Oh, it's it's something else, right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
And I'm sorry James like hearing Van talk about like
his like Lucas and Liza scene added into the nurse's ball,
so we know the show can do that, Like they
can add these moments in so now hearing that, I'm
just like, why do we have to you know, like,
I give me a slice of life moment between Geo

(01:42:50):
and Emma. If you really need to have something between
the two of them, don't give me a third rehashed
conversation within the same week. So it's like, yeah, the
gh triters can do it. We then told us they can.
They can, They can pivot and put stuff in uh

(01:43:10):
and even suggest that plot related see to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Me, and I know it's a dead horse. I'm gonna
beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Do it a little been wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
If a recruited Lucky and if he was WSB agent,
I will yes the storyline possibility. He's a great actor.
It could make sense because he was a cop at
one point and he's like, go around the world kind
of guy. I'm thinking that worldly kind of guy. I
think that's a missed opportunity of having Lucky be in

(01:43:43):
WSB and you can always ride him off the things
because he has to go off and do something come
back very much. I mean it's it's it's you can
do the loose thing with him. Basically, it's kind of okay,
I leaves for three months, he comes back. I just
I just it's just it's it's a shame and I
and now this whole geos want insert himself. We never

(01:44:07):
see Dalton, I am, I might even I mean when
we see these scenes and what would they even would
they mean anything? I mean, like, well, will it be
any kind of real consequence? I got don't. I'm not
that invested because we don't see it very It's you said,
I don't see it very often. I'm not that invested,
you know, And.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
It's like, okay, man, James, you make me think about
what could have been, Like Jonathan Jackson's schedule, whether you
know it's music or books or great yeah, uh you know,
but there's got to be like a month out of
his year that he's kind of a downtime that he
could fly out and be on g H and you
could just plan it around like him coming back into

(01:44:46):
town or him somewhere in the world on a WSB mission.
They can tie back into the larger ukgoing plot and
just like that's the way you can still have this
character still be a part of it. Like you know
whatce ever year year and a half, you know, he's
back for four to six weeks and boom that he's off.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Yeah, I don't know. Uh, let's move on from that storyline.
What's that? What's another storyline? Right, Lucas all that stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Oh, do you need to see any more of this dog?
As we as we say about yeah, yeah, the dog's great,
but the boy, you know, we're just being a dead
horse with like are we gonna do this schedule?

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
I don't mind, I don't mind. But we saw him.
We saw Kris storms that shocked me, Like, wow, okay,
so I guess she filmed some stuff before she left.
And it's told basically deception, because we go back to
Tracy having you talk with Sidwell and Marco and explaining

(01:45:52):
in quotes how be bad for her to turn it in,
and then her going back and talking to you lose anytime, Lucy,
all it together, it's kind of fun, and then talking
about we shouldn't do anything, and everybody back in except
for Maxie. Max's like, what's going on? I love studying?
But what's going on? So? Will this bite them in

(01:46:15):
the ass or is this actually a closure of just
that whole thing?

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Well, I think this leads to MAXI being gone now
because you saw what Lucy tells that to Sidwell. Sidwell's
like yeah, yeah, yeah, Sidwell is gonna remove Maxie from
this situation. Okay, that's why she's gone, because it's like
she does not if if there's even the possibility that
Maxie could tell Mac could go to the PCBD, you know, besides,

(01:46:41):
you know what Lucy Brooklyn and Tracy decided. Uh yeah,
So the way they showed Sidwell's reaction to hearing that
bit of information, it's like, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna
do something, and Maxie's gonna disappear for a while until
she's back at the beginning of next year.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Right, outback is cute, noose schedule, yet I'd rather see
out back than drer Sonny.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Yeah, but it's also like, you know, outback's fine, But
it's also like we man, boy, if we played this
beat like I'm tired of it, like, oh, this dog
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Well, dg agrees with you. The cute dog we get
too much airtime is not the dog Whisperer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Finally have a dog on there. That's great, But you know,
it's also like I've already seen this beat played out
of It's like, well, this dog is eating my shoe. Uh,
this dog's got my thing? Blank, No, who's gonna walk
this dog?

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
There has but folks, there has to be some whimsy
on shows. So s tou cutesy and whimsy and not
always correctly, not always smoothly. But the dog is cutesy.
That's part of that's part of that's cutesy.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Em but using him to get in with closer with
the doctor, her professor. Fine, uh Anna coming into the
Metro Corps pool, you know, being you know, dragged by
by out back on who are you gonna take him?

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Like Emma, who wanted this child? I wanted this dog
who cares about animals more than anybody? No, sorry, I can't.
So why don't you just take him to work? Take
him to work? You don't make that thing like you're
the police kisserer. Nobody's nobody's more powerful than you. You
can just take him. Nobody's gonna say anything to you.
Are you kidding me? Get out of here, Emma, thinking
you know how the world works.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
I do you remember Foster and Annabelle?

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
And second, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
I don't mind dogs. I don't mind the horses my dogs.
I like animals. So that's what we separate that's what
we separate from.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
They don't bother me. But much like any much like
Geo and Emma having that same repeated conversation, it's like,
I also need you to just do different things with
this dog and not thought of the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
It's all about shoes line a day right before a
dog is cheaper. There you go, all right, So I think,
what do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
What do the adds are that that dog that jump
into that pool sometime between takes?

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
I want I wanted to he does. I'm sure there.
I have no problem that doesn't bother me. When were
watching that storyline. If we have another one, I think
we're missing what we did that we did a deception.
Well we do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
We do. Get Ava. We're talking to Alexis saying hey, uh,
I want Rick out of here, and then Rick also saying,
hey Martin, I got to get out of here too.
But Ava candle in a very last second, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
I saw previous. So the problem I have with this
storyline again we said, as we said earlier, more West
deserves great scenes and great writing, and the fact that
they're leading her towards Cody in this way. It's just
so because I say, it's a forum on something else.

(01:50:12):
Folks at home, I'm sorry, I disappoint you. Reckless can't
get back together. Too much has gone down that Elizabeth
look look dumb. Yeah, but they keep having Rick kind
of baiting her, kind of just like the opining after her.
That part is fine, but they're actually keep pushing them together,

(01:50:33):
Rick and Aver with two peas in a pod. Oh,
they love more of them. They cut that shorts, which
is frust.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Yeah, it's frustrating. And we also didn't get enough of
it together to like, when you want to pull them apart,
it means more because right now it's like we didn't
see them, so now we're just frustrated about what we
never got exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
I just think that this is and there's just so
much godness, There's so much much going around because who
who's all? Okay, what I would say this, everyone's guilty
of something. Christina lucky if he was still around, Elizabeth,

(01:51:15):
Alexis Ava, Rick, Christina. Now Michael knows what happened, So
Michael knows. I think Jason knows what happened to you,
like Jason knows. I think I don't think. No, there's
so many folks who are so like all guilty on

(01:51:39):
all fronts. It's ridiculous at this point actually to me,
the story like now, the story has got out of
hand and it's feel like it needs to come out.
It just needs to come out now, and then to
put a body out of their misery because I think,
I mean, yes, it's like repercussions that it comes out obviously,

(01:52:00):
but it was to jail obviously. But I just feel
like there's just it's just a lot that I'm not
I like caring for it. So it needs to just
come out and be done with it, because I like
poking able together and why are we throwing this wrench there?
And Molly and Cody a like together. It shows Fistina's
a bad sister once again. He's making these things such

(01:52:22):
a bad sister.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Yeah, it's it's frustrating because it's you know, as always,
you know we've talked about this. GH can tee up
interesting relations, interesting couples, and then never really gives them
the time to actually do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
And then they're already breaking them up and we're like, what,
they're already breaking up? We didn't even see them do
anything yet.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Cody has no story, no Cody's just there. He's just
kind of there. He shows up here and there he's
standing behind Brooklyn. He's over here with this person. Is
there a tree? Sometimes we don't see stables anymore. So
I'm just saying, it's just kind of like, I don't
I don't understand what Cody's role is. Max hardly on,

(01:53:08):
which I don't know if that's because of things. I
don't have idea, uh, but he's hardly on. Sausage is
now gone. So so when you and Molly have actual chemistry,
there's something that I think is really good there, and
they just thing just to me, it's a it's a
smoke scream. It's just it's just it's not exciting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Oh no, because you just know it's not something that's
that's that's gonna real. It's like we're not we've even
gotten to the point where it's like Cody's like it
started off as a as a job, but then I
got real feelings we're not even at that, Like Cody
is just doing his thing, uh for pay. So yeah,
I don't, you know, I don't know. I wish I

(01:53:55):
wish it was Ava and Rick and we got to
see more of them, just two kind of people who
kind of view the world kind of similarly. Gonna be
together for a while, right, which then makes me wonder like, well,
what's what do they have planned for Rick? Because yeah,
you're right, it's not gonna be a Liz, No, it
can't be. It's just Lin' centers much like she's like,

(01:54:19):
you know, she knows past. You can't see a woman
crawl out of a hidden room in a house in
James and go like, yeah, I'm gonna get back with
this guy right right, that alone, no matter what else
he's done, Like that alone is gonna it would be

(01:54:41):
a perennial red flag, Like there's just no, there's no
green flags on Rick's horizon.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
No, And yes, you know a is this younger man
that is as a pattern for her. So I mean
he fits the pad. I mean he's charming enough to
fit the pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
I just I don't, Oh, come on, you're gonna pass
up on that silver fox Rick curbs right now?

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Now, Rick does one, Liz, I know that far. But
I just think it's just there's way seeing his tithes
of the service, but how many different other storylines are fine?
But I I just I don't know. I just I
just I don't know. They need to do whatever to
make Rick stay than he Rochelle, Yes, we do.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Yes, I totally agree with that, and I always am
down for see where Rick kind of you know, drops
find says idols and tries to flirt and Liz is
always like yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, you know, you
know we're not right, and he's like, okay, well still
like can we just get a cup of coffedy? Maybe
you know I'm always wrong with that. It doesn't need
to go any further than that. I like that both

(01:55:46):
of them. Rick is still always gonna want Liz but
also knows that Liz will never take him back, and
Liz like, yeah, I'm never gonna like I will be
friendly with you, but I will never be romantically involved
with you. Buddy, right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Is who are saying? Sidwell and Drew talk?

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Uh yeah, I mean boy this, I like, why why
would you poke the bear like that? Drew like like,
do you think like that's the guy you want to
say like, oh I will make your life difficult? That's
the guy you want to say that too, and it's
just gonna be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Drew is like man, I've heard this expression of a
lot this week, like high on his own supply.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Yeah, I just sidwell, which want to talk to him
next week? Of course? You know, I just love saying
that he's an interesting character because he has no connections
to anybody, no personal or connections everybody or any familiar
explain anybody except for Marco home. But they're positioning him

(01:56:55):
in a way that he can have the most damage
to people. He has hands on stuff hard as we
know that, making item like he could be large, he's
he's now is how bigger people think that he is,
That he's getting bigger. There's something going on there. I
don't I just hope they continue to write for him
in a way that's big and bold and beautiful. I

(01:57:20):
don't know. I don't know what it is yet, but
I just I just feel, like Sindabel, they keep kind
of like hinting at his greatness or whatever that's going
on there, but export it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
And I want them to also be able to balance
that with like I do want him to have like
genuine connections with people other than Marco, whether that's Lucy
or other people, just because you know, if you make
him a more world one hunded person. Then that that
makes me buy that he can stay on this show longer.
He can be the next Valentine and have a nice

(01:57:52):
long run on the show where he's kind of in
that kind of gray area.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Yes he could, he could, Yeah, whacked could. I just
I'm just not sure what they're about to do with him.
He's working on something, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
I also want to know the deals like we speaking of,
because I think of Sidwell, I think of his real
life wife, like, like, what are they doing with this
ad A and Sonny?

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
You know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
But it's like because usually these types of roles, it's
just like you know, uh, we'll see you for a
little bit and then you're just gone. But they keep
bringing her around for a while, so like I don't know,
I mean, in course, and certainly Sonny is you know,
without a love interest, and I mean we did say
talk with Jason's like, I'm just always going to be
quiet and every time she brings me in, you know,

(01:58:43):
I'm just making my you know, I'm just putting my
receipts together. And so you know, she ever you know,
arrests me, you know, I'll have to have her get
off taking taking off the case. She she.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
It's just lazy riding also put them together. She's a
Brenda look alike. She's the type that he likes. I
was thinking the type, it's just a lazy It's like
we know now that she showed a sense of side
to him her foot, and it's just it's just like,
I I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Well, I felt like the one crucial piece of information
that came out is when they did talk about how
the judge gave Michael full custody all right, and that
will and that Willow didn't get anything. Because I feel
like that when Sidwell drops that bomb and tries to
frame Sonny as the person that did all this, Uh,
that she will that the ad will will remember this

(01:59:39):
conversation and be like, WHOA, Okay, maybe Sonny didn't do
all this. As much as I want to arrest him, yeah,
maybe he's not. He's telling the truth here because he
seemed genuine surprised that Michael get that that full custody
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
Uh, it's it's I mean getting they're getting together. They're
getting together, that's what's happening obviously. So I don't I
don't I know this. I'm like, Okay, I guess that's it.
I mean, I don't know what to say about thems
and I don't have any feeling for them or against
them like this, he was lazy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
James doesn't Sunny deserve loves.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
Well, everyone deserves love, Yes, they all do. And it's
like Britton Jason, Yeah, Jason talks about Britt with these
adoring eyes. It's it's uh yeah. And then of course
we can't forget five Poppies. I want to tease sugar
and mug folks. It's five Poppies for real gold on

(02:00:42):
they are they are seriously this Pascal guy and again,
I love about you this week he would like that,
he would. I mean, it's just they went on on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
I'm right back, yeah, yeah, left at the keys. I
need a different name for the heat. I need the
Midnight Box. The uh curious Badger. Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
I was like, okay, I'm like, oh, there's a hoodie
from five Poppies. He was a hoodie. They're not selling
it on They're not selling it on ABC, are they
or anything that selling on Disney anywhere? The real sweatshirts
or anything.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Yeah, come on, somebody somebody on Etsy has got to
have made one.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Etsy. I don't know, Frank, I mean, it's just it's
she's getting drunk. She's tired of just being how prisoner basically.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
I mean, we did see her go on Facebook and
see you know the picture of lisels face making that
with him and Rock go oh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
Man, Ben, you're so big now, man, I don't mind
that part of story. Like again, that's as fascinating and
I thought they were going to visit that, yeah, And
so it's kind of fascinating. Is Rock was of age,
he's fifteen, but he's a baby, and so I'm kind
of excited about this part of the story. I'm like,
I can see this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
I mean, for me, I I like the idea of
Britain Jason together back when it first happened. It was
bummed that it got so quickly derailed to do the
whole Jason Carly sonny mob stuff and was sunny name
Jason and Carly need to get married stuff, and I
did not enjoy that. So I'm excited to see what
happens when they get rein edited, and I hope that

(02:02:36):
they actually kind of really do invest a bit into
this relationship. But knowing that neither of those actors are
ones that may stick around for a long time. You know,
I'm not holding up like hopes like this is going
to be you know, like you know that, you know,
two plus year relationship.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
Sorry, one person who's not coming back on, but who
wants to so bad folks. Ryan Craig, h how do
you guys see the tweets?

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
I did see one. Somebody mentioned that they kind of
like reposted that tweet saying, like, it's up to Frank
and the them if they want to make the call.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Somebody wants to be back on the show, you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
But here's the thing it was But was that him
being was that him saying that or is him just
responding to a fan saying, oh, we would love to
have you back on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
The fans aren't chucking. They know what I'm talking about.
He wants to be back in the show. The fans
said it. But he's totally But he's been post signing
it for a while now. And I actually liked they've
kept Morgan, Dad. I think he's more interesting. Dad. We
don't need Morgan on the show. I think he's been

(02:03:58):
because it's it's that's the hole in there in their heart.
That's just not been filled more come back. I don't,
we don't, we don't need, we don't, we don't need,
we don't need Morgan on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
What if they like he is always we'd always joked
about his possibility that it had been Morgan was really Pikeman?
Would you live like that twist?

Speaker 1 (02:04:30):
Maybe if the riding is good. But see, I also
think Julian Jerome was Piking or something like that, mm hmm,
or Jerry Jacks I want somebody better, or Lorenzo.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
A lot of us.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Almost choked on. Oh my god, I almost choked them,
like Hip, that's funny, Frank, that's funny. Not Hey, that's
been interesting. No, nonzl acas are hard, that's pretty funny.
I went with to she for a while. I go,

(02:05:14):
we thought that was Brenda or Sky. I like, I'm like,
there's there's characters I would love to have come back
and they're not dead. Think, oh my god, Frank, they're laughing.
I know I said, he said, they said Lamas, I
love renz Alama Ship I like, Okay Gate, oh my
talking Crest, you might love it. So there's other people

(02:05:41):
I would love to would have been loved and better
choice than than than Morgan. But we talked about it
back then. I remember that would be interesting. Angle he's
the son of Sunny Nice turned against him, the whole
thing were great. But that's fine. I mean, if they
write it correctly, then yes, But for me, Morgan stays dead. Yeah,

(02:06:01):
he's a ghost twice. That's fine. But I like that
they did that he's not but they lost a child
and they let's keep it that way. Yeah, I'm just
thinking Lorenzo Lamas. Imagine the motorcycle, that's right, the long bullets.

(02:06:27):
But yeah, no, I just I don't know. I just say,
but he's really he's when he wants to come back on, well,
I don't. I think I think they're I think it's
just I mean, yeah, he's move on.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
We heard Van. I mean, you know, the and like
we've talked about too, I mean the industry. I mean
it has changed right now. It is. It is tough
to get steady gigs. So you know, hey you can
if you if you have a way that maybe try
to get yourself a steady gig for a while, go
for it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
I know, folks, really is tough. I had I had
lunch with an actress who was visiting from Vancouver. John
Wyn calls the heart and we're talk about that. We're
just talking about that, just how just this industry is changing.
And I use somebody said everything self tapes. You know,
you're not meeting in person. You can't wait to any
extra razzle dazzle in person to get somebody. You don't

(02:07:14):
get to feel the chemistry. There are very few shows
being shot that's seen in Los Angeles, and this is
it's just everything. Studios are closing down, you know. It's
just it's very interesting here and it's interesting time right now.
I think personally, Frank, I think that it could turn
around later. It could turn around at some point. I
don't know when or what I've heard twenty twenty six,

(02:07:34):
so it's gonna turn around, I don't know, but I
just I just think that right now, it's it's hard
out there for him. It is.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
I mean, like Vancouver, they used to be such a
very popular spot for shooting. Like even think think all
the CW shows, all the superhero shows shout all shot
out there. I mean that's like four or five shows.
I mean that's that's a lot of guest star roles
for a lot of people that are up there. Uh
and now those are all gone, right, I mean that's Chicago.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
We you know tick Wolf doing all the Chicago pat
and Chicago man. I mean, but you only do that
so many times, they say in New York with Law
and Order, I mean most usually you can make one appearance,
maybe two series. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
Or not.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
In Atlanta is not as popular as us be either, really.

Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
Well. I mean, you know, work on those Tyler Perry shows.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
Are beyond the gates.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
Oh, it's true there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
Down there too.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
It's just down there the Oval.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Oh, oh my god, I think Tony did a game
show down there. He's flown down there, did a game show.
It's not really a hub. I have some friends in
North Carolina doing a lot of stuff for the Weather Channel,
all those reenactment shows. Okay, so Susie walked into the
store and that's when they's my two gunmen and why

(02:08:55):
they did the reenactments. Have friends are doing those and
they said it paid decent. But folks, the place to
go now is those short dramas, those mini dramas. They're
all up and you see them. They're all cheesy writing.
Most of my AI writing, and they're all a minute long.

(02:09:16):
I don't know. You see these sayings, I've seen them.
They're everywhere, and they called short dramas or whatever, and
the short media stuff. It's just it's people you've seen
on TV do these. We see the titles. The titles
are like my grandmother, the alligator, my lover or my

(02:09:37):
friend reads these every week. The cast breakdowns all time.
There's one of us called the billionaire's girlfriend's boyfriend, the
you know the wife. It's a minnium, you know. The
mini dramas, short draw they call the different names for them.
They started out in Asia, queen in Japan. Now Americans
and the British are all doing them now.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
So on YouTube, TikTok or Instagram or you can.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
You can see them on you see you see average
timents for them on TikTok and Instagram. And they have
their own I was taking on YouTube you can check out.
But they have their own apps.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Oh jeez.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
And one Apple is called tell You. One appens called
I'll talk to you later. You know, people just you're.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
Texting me what those names of the app? Leave me alone?

Speaker 1 (02:10:36):
Be alone? Okay, I can see where are my apps? Okay, Nope,
I don't want to call you. I was called flo
of accent.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
Is there ever an accident when you call them? Please?

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
No, it's always on purpose. We tried to go to
good Park there and I've guys saw the video and
it was horrible. Kick it up there the wrong idea,
try to go up there and there was no parking. Yeah,
it's an app called Am a Little Story. That's one
of them. There's these Oh my god, I have one

(02:11:11):
on my phone because I'm following the gay ones and
it's like my uncle's nephew's cousin and I mean they
literally are titled like that, stop dead serious. But I'm
trying to find I'm not pulling up on my thing.
Whereas that's open it's open table one did one called
school this Merimari says School of Lust and live my drama.

(02:11:33):
That's one of the big ones. My drama dot com.
It's an app, but they you find them on there,
so I can do this many dramas, but they're they're
huge right now. But that's where but a lot of
actors are getting mad because it's cheesy work.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
Well those are those titles, good lord.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
But but it's like, but is it any worse than
Lifetime is any worse than all mar Channel. I mean
to me, I mean, those titles are crazy. There's a
drama where listen drama. There's Drama Time, Drama Box, Mini drama,
my drama. I have drama Box. And it's called short.
It's called stream. I can't show it on here because

(02:12:18):
it might thing my things in the way. It's called
stream drama shorts. And they, I mean seriously getting billions.
They're getting billions of so James Lott Junior who does
thirty audio dramas, and they're all very successful because they're short.

(02:12:38):
Frank's on several of them. They're very short. We do
very short. We do two or three page scripts. I've
been putting them out for five years and I and
I am telling you I've had success with them. These
things are quick, fast, in a hurry, that's all is,
and and they just stay out there. Right now, Yeah,
real shorts. Another one, that's another one. See Frank's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
I'm looking at one of them right now, and man,
you're right, it's just like the the overacting on these. Oh,
it's like watching one of those uh wolvers again. It
does like those YouTube like moral videos where you're just like, man,
these are so over the top.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
These yeah, I know, just like just like those yes, yeah,
so I know you're talking about it. He's very it's
very popular and they're so moral and so it's like
over the acting is wooden. It's all it's a cliche,
but people are buying the f out of them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:36):
I mean, I guess it's like for you know that
that short content it gives you something like if you're
just right there, boom, get it and move on.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
You know it does too. It takes the soap format
and just like makes it even more soapy. And they're quick.
It's a minute, the next one, a minute, you the
next one. And then also what's also funny is it's
this whole thing anyway of the you know, they started
on TikTok first, one chick with the who the fuck
Did I marry? She did like seventy five episodes of that.

(02:14:07):
They were all a minute long. And I was doing
a series called how to Get Super Organized Under a Minute.
I did that when a TikTok first came out. Yeah
I did. I think I did one hundred and fifty episodes.
Huge hit for me. Organizing Tip under a Minute every time.
I was like, okay, and like this is it's just

(02:14:29):
like people are wanting shorter contact. As we've been on
for two hours, yea sixty one, people are still watching us.
I'll tell you. So, I gus just feel like why
not but but that but there's but there's a lot
of actors who just feel like that's just that that's
beneath them. I guess other actors are taking it and

(02:14:51):
they're working. I'm like, folcus, a job's a job's a job.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
Uh yeah, you know, you know your credit cards don't care.
You know, they don't care where that money is coming from.
As long as it's legal. There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
My brother had to get a new break fluid or
lights or something. It was like five hundred dollars, and
I was like, they don't care what it's like where
when it comes in, it comes in ship Like, we
don't care. But I just think that it's it's one
of those things where it's it's changing the industry and
so but there are success and I decided for me,
I'm always up for new mediums, whether it's good or

(02:15:29):
bad or different.

Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
Oh. I always think I feel like we're seeing a
J LG media app in our future.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
I've always thought about that. Actually, I'm working on some stuff.
I know w's working on stuff always. I think, here
a few things my personal I would even go further
on that, but I have a couple of things I
was working on because you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Know, a lot of drama right there. Let's see, there's
the app right there.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
I know so so I thought, you know, yes, the
Internet did it too. That's all I did. I mean,
it's just it's I watched crap. I watched crap. I
watch's crap too sometimes, But I mean I do like
longer content also, Like I'm watching a new dexter. I'll
watch it tonight. I like it. It's it's it's using
an hour. I like it. It was a good story.

(02:16:18):
I'm gonna watch the whole thing. But for on the go, yeah, yes,
and acts need health insurance too. We always say that
it's true.

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
Uh yeah, I mean for as much as I say, like, hey,
I'm gonna go to bed, I can easily then blow
through like another ninety minutes, and I realized, like, holy cow,
I've I was supposed to bed ninety minutes ago, and
I've just been watching this micro content. Uh, going through
my phone.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
So we got we got Frank. We'll talk to him
next week. You got him hooked, Yeah, I'm hook we
got tell.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
Oh, I should take a spin through one of these
my drumas and.

Speaker 1 (02:16:53):
Just you're gonna get hooked, gonna get hooked. I was,
I swear to god. I was like, I gotta see
the next part. I gotta see the next part because
it's so ridiculous. I guess the next part. That's what
happened to me. Oh, Franks will get caught. Well, we'll
talk him next week. I'll get he'll be caught. I'm done.
That's say kids, I gotta go. James is tired and hot.

(02:17:14):
That's the pee again. So not just my life right now.
But we don't think Van Hansen is for coming on,
of course, and you know, for spending time with this.
And I said, next week is Carlo wrote side was
with us next week. I'm very tell your friends, hide
your kids, hide your wives. He's coming on. We're very
excited about that. And I said more to come. You know,

(02:17:36):
our anniversary is at the end of September. We have
more to come.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
Uh, who tells you that Genie Francis will be here?
Just you jes you wait, I'm sorry. Well, oh, I
spoke to soon.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
That's a story. But we're gonna have some stuff. I'm
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(02:18:11):
But we'll see you next week. Next week. Have a
great week. If it's hot, stay hydrated, stay lathered up
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have a dream which you're drinking water makes you're good
if we're in a hot space, because please be careful

(02:18:32):
out there. And it's it's really tough and I'm gonna
go hide now. Mie oh