IS Drew A Goner?/Reaction to Week ending 6/20/25

JLJ and Frank Moran talk General Hospital.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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All right, your kids, crazy kids, It is time for
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I can't.

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You know, well, I'll just know that you mean it privately.

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you so much. Also, after me and Frank are done
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Speaker 3 (01:54):
What do you think? Do you think this will be
truly the last you ever see a bone Hope?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I heard I heard Boes come back. I heard some
w he's coming back allegedly allegendly, Oh this last time.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I hope. I hope.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
God christopherous other things going on, but I think I
think bo will come back allegedly.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I don't know that's for sure. Allegedly.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well Will Hope is like, oh, she couldn't make it
back because she's busy doing this right right right.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's when he had the whole family together and they
brought back Victoria Conna fall. They brought back, we brought everybody,
brought the whole family back. So they had Sean Douglass
and so it was. It was a whole family affair.
So but I think I think Victoria's leaving. I think
hopelessly they're all leaving. So I think, but I think
I hurt what he's been back.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm not sure. Don't quote me. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I'm quoting everybody. You heard it here first, don't quote
me at all. James both help still have that same magic.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, okay, great, they do like they do they do.
They said just like just like John and Marlena. I
mean just they just it's it sounds like Stephen Kayla
on both shows. I was I would say both of
Stephen Nichols, and I just think they do just like us.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You give me Frank.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
On screaking as like you Spencer to say a permanent luck.

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Yes, you know, I think it's gonna be now Isaiah
and and Elizabeth. I was always always in Isaiah and Lulu,
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Well here's the thing, so people ask for that. So
this is this host of soap podcasts, meaning hosts who
talk about the shows. So Alan and Michael will not
be on the shows because they're not.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
They're just interviewers.

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We have a unique position because we talk about the
soaps interviews some times, and we're also fans, so it's
actually very specific. So let's ay, maybe when they'll do
a round table of all like in and sop interviewers,
so press, so press, that's what's called. That's that's all.
But they're not. They don't, they don't. They don't review shows, please,

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I'm thinking that.

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They're in really but JJ media strikes again.

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But I'm glad you mentioned because people ask you about that.
Certain people go, no, they're not like Michael Maloney and
they don't. They don't review soaps. They're just soap interviewers.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's all. But maybe one they'll do that.

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Uh, And fans also asked me about to do a
fan edition get fans on, So maybe you guys are crazy.

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So I don't know. We'll see if I feel I
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Speaker 3 (06:36):
Or is Aiden still in the picture? Is he gone? Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Four major major episode including involving Aid and Carrie and
the family, very major, very major. So he still He's
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It's a I like the season so far. It just started.
We got eight more episodes. We'll be all until August.
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Speaker 1 (07:32):
Very good. There's all this stuff I want to talk
about on here. Yes, that's right, all right, So.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Frank where I am. We're gonna start because it looks
East Coaster first of all. East Coaster asked about Erica
slaves like coming to GHR thoughts we talked about last time.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
We're excited for her to come. Chance starts.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is gonna be VICKI I mean, I don't, I don't.
I don't think she will be anybody else. I guess
we'll see. I mean, I just we'll see. We'll see
what happens she plays. You have how long she's staying roll?
We have nothing, We don't know nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean it would be I guess like too
iconic of a role to not have her be Yeah
the key.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I figured she will be Vicky because my homeworks
in a banner. Apparently I was contacted by a banner
that's a lamb of you. So I've been finishedly Viking.
So wait, fine, we're good to see her. We have
a good, great actress. Seven I make six or seven Emmy's.
I mean, she's obviously a great actress. So let's see.
So here's the deal. We will get into this stort

(08:36):
because a lot happens with him. You're right about the
chat Drew Caine, Drew Caine, Drew Caine, and I said
this before, I don't think he'll be killed off only
gonna do that. I definite think it's gonna be shot.
I feel like everybody should have a shot at him. Everybody,

(08:56):
everybody's shoot. It should be multiple killers. Everybody should just
come in and it's like for me, well get everybody did.
And why I say that, Frank, is because this week
they keep alluding to that with several characters and how
media is to everybody. He just is like rolling over everybody.
It's not a feeling. So we're gonna talk about what
happened is for you course, but I feel like overall, Frank,

(09:18):
that's where we're going.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, it makes sense, you know, And yeah, you know,
I know the fans are split in terms of like, oh,
you know, he's he's a bad he's the bad guy.
You want to just kind of keep around as a thorn.
And everybody's side too, they're like, Nope, his character is
just not the same as it was when Billy Miller
first established it. It's too different, it's too weird. He's

(09:43):
just it's just terrible. We should just kill him off.
So I don't know, I feel like, let's keep him around.
You know, you need you need that thorn in everybody's
side all the time, because I guess if we you know,
I know, for the man who should not be named,
we have had him on for a while and he
was a thorn, and then you kill him off and
you're done. But then you need somebody to kind of

(10:04):
fill in that that that that that kind of role
in the show. Uh, you know, Otherwise, you know, then
what do you do. You can't just have a season
of people just like hey, let's just hang out of
Bobby's and just talk about these great fries.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
They say they're good. No, I agree with you completely, Frank,
and many's the guy should not be mentioned. I'm glad
he's gone, but I do I don't. I hate the
character Drew, of course, because the guy's use such a
great job. That's all point. You're supposed to hate him,
that is the point. So I think Cameron is doing
a great job. He's playing a different kind of character.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Ryan was.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know, I always said he wasn't a great teachers,
but he wasn't evil. He would say, he's a regular
soap guy. He was a soap guy. So now he's
a he's a villain. And I think we need villains.
You need villains.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I just I just feel like Frank, every time we get.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
A villain or villainous that the fans hated for some reason,
but villain's drive story, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I feel like the difference is if you want
this villain to be around sort of long term, that
you've got to have moments of humanity with him. I mean,
like you know, Adam Chandler, I mean look at him.
I mean he was on there for you know, for
so long. I mean, and originally had Palmer Cortland and
the two of them will kind of be vying back
and forth, and then eventually, you know, the actor playing
Palmer Cortland was no longer as president on the show,

(11:29):
So I mean, yeah, so you kind of missed that
that there was, you know, two guys just constantly butting
heads all the time. But the thing with Adam Chandlers
is as despicable as he could be, there was also
you know, the love he head for his family, you know,
the people that he cared about. You know, so that would,
you brother, that would kind of humanize him a bit,

(11:49):
so that you could never completely find him like irredeemable,
and so you you know, so that's why you enjoyed that,
And then you'd be angry. You'd be like, ah, he's
just doing the bad gas stuff. But oh but he
still can be compassionate at the times and sweet. So
I feel like with Drew, we certainly got him being despicable.

(12:09):
I mean, I just feel like it's tough right now.
It's hard to see those compassionate sides, and I think
it's you know, the most compassionate you see him being
is with Kai, but nobody cares about that storyline, So
it's tough. To really get like to be like, oh yeah,
we're seeing like the good the good guy side of
Drew that we like. Nobody cares about this character, so
it doesn't really kind of land as much. I mean
because his other closest connection is Willow, and you just

(12:31):
see everything that he's doing with Willow. So it's tough
to get invested in that relationship and see like, oh
yeah he genuinely loves her, he's lied and deceived her.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
So it's like, okay, yes, East Coaster, said Adam Channa,
showed humanity.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I agree, And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think we need to see another side of Drew,
maybe with Scouts or when he sees something from him.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
It has not happened yet on screen. Do wabrings with
very good part?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I thought about, you're right about this, so melose place fans,
Thomas Callabro, Michael Mancini. Uh, when he showed to a
bad guy, he was much more interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's true. That's true. I watched I watched most plays,
you duan. That's a good example.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Got that first season and they kind of did a
big one eighty to say, they brought in Amanda and
all that and changed it. But yeah, once they made
him kind of like this kind of guy would loose
morals a little bit, played with the law a little bit.
Then it was good. And it's like and that's kind
of you know, and I just think with Drew, you're right,
we have not seen another side. They have not shown
us this other side that could help if he was

(13:41):
like we showed it every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
They tried to show little things here and there, but
it doesn't last very long.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
They write something bad again, like that fast the Kai thing,
I thought maybe that would be his thing, treats him
like a stunning never had the whole shebang shapoom. But
now it's kind of like, think you're using Kai too
to get back at people. They all kind of of
because you didn't. It didn't work, so now you got
now you owe him, so to speak, so you kind
of like have to. But if they saw it, it's
more like I really see something. It could be something good,

(14:11):
It could be I know, but again, no one cares
on the storyline, and that's kind of that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, you know, and I feel like, uh, the tough
part is like I don't know that the way this
Drew is currently being written is that he uh is
incapable of acknowledging his his petty. He feels like, oh no, no, no,
I've been done wrong by everybody. So this is me
just coming back like he's incapable of acknowledging like no, no, no,

(14:39):
I'm petty and I'm arrogant. I'm as bad as any
quartermain out there. And so to try to hold himself
as like somebody different, like he's the one that's been
persecuted by all these people and he's like I'm just
trying to do the best I can. It doesn't it
doesn't track. So I just feel like I need those
moments where I just need. I needed Drew to just
like yeah, you know, uh yeah, will I kept you

(15:00):
from seeing Michael in Germany and you know, because I'm
gonna think because I love you and I didn't want
you see but I was scared.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, East Coaster, Yes, I know Oscar was to do something.
He didn't raise Drew, and he was around that law
and he didn raised Oscar. He wasn't around that long.
That story that's a horrible storyline too. You didn't bring
up that's a bad storyline. That what's a patch of
meadow he has out there, So what does he have
out there? Oscars out there meadow that's a horrible story.
East Coast has a horse line too. But he didn't
raise him and I met like said, he didn't have to.

(15:31):
He didn't get chance to leave be around him. It's
a sunny doesn't get chanced to. He didn't really had
a son, not really. I mean it was like that
was short term, like they killed off Oscar.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, and I mean it's tough to buy that into
the way the characters written now. I mean, that was
definitely a pre kind of kind of character adjustment, like
that's that tracks more with even the even the earliest
arrival of Cameron Matheson. You could still kind of connect
the Oscar thing sort of, but uh no, never ever
since that he when he came out of prison. You know,

(16:02):
it's not been able to kind of track that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Doesn't do anything with them because it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So, I mean, yeah, and I'm so far removed from
Billian Miller, uh and being grew and seeing Ascri's passing
that it's just like you feel like you can't it's
hard to connect that portion of Drew's backstory into this
version of the character.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I agree, it's if STEP's life in danger if she
gets sick, right, and but I mean I'm saying, wait,
we're waiting for something like something to happen so we
can see it. Yes, we can see it.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I agree with you, Like they haven't shown us right now,
he's almost cartoonishly bad. That have shown us anything to
balance that.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
The Kai thing is the closest where it's like, I mean,
he's he's being kind to him, I said, on trust
it obviously, you know it could be. I mean, it
does affect Trina and them him being there. Trea's getting
more and more upset. She done when she is she
you know she is done?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
You know, yes, I mean she's ready to pop a
captain or somebody. The thing that frustrates me about the
KI storyline, and I know that we're not, you know,
to no fault of the actor, it's just the story itself.
It's just not that interesting. Is that. I don't understand
why at no time anybody mentions like coaching football being

(17:26):
involved in it in that way as an alternative to this, Like, yes,
I understand it's not the exact same thing as playing,
and that your dreams are crushed for that. But if
you are that passionate about the sport, there are other
ways for you to actively be involved and have impact
on on on this that you could actively pursue and
no time, nobody mentions that, and now it's all like, well,

(17:46):
I guess I could be a congressional aid in turn,
like this is like such a weird, a weird pivot
for him to be like, yep, I guess I'll just
do this now.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well it's syndrome. Now I'm a cook for the quarterman.
That was the weirdest thing on earth? Remember where did
that come from? So, Frank, that's too obvious, I know,
right exactly. It's all it's it's just yeah, it's like
it's like, that's what we're saying. It's like it doesn't
it's just, uh, why can't you? Because because I know
a lot of people who injured themselves who are coaches

(18:20):
for high school teams, be coase for college teams. I
work with a few in my in my network who
like their careers were over, but they actually continue as coaches.
That just be to be just too nice. I know,
that be just too like I say, he SUPs, that's
too obvious. I mean, why can't Kai play baseball? Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean, I mean it's not the same as football. Obviously,
he has two diferent sports. But you can't just transfer
your love from one to the other. But I don't know,
I mean they don't have that part of that storyline,
which I always I cringe every time, Frank when it
comes up every year.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Uh, he could be out there playing softball, like why
is neon currental Coffee or the the you know, the
PC team.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
We'll get there later. Okay, we'll get there later. But yeah,
so anyway, So, so the true thing is everyone's getting
really pissy Adham. So they're all they're always getting done
so so so everybody, let's go around. So Willow is
a strat. Willow is kind of tonic and probably right

(19:30):
or something going on. She's not she's because she's having
a moment. Uh not to get twice the actually just
did a good job. He should doing a good job
because she thought she said, you said I was gonna
win you. Other reason, why don't have my kids?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I love?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
She calls me out either reas why don't have my kids?
He couldn't say nothing.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
For me.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
He had a stuttered for a second and then you know,
but it was like he was right, because she goes,
you made do two things I should have did. He admitted,
I should have done that. I should have done the
the the thing. But I know I'm trying. I was
trying to protect you said. He was like, he want
to control. You want to control over her, the kids,

(20:09):
over Michael. That's what he wanted, That's what that's what
you wanted. I he loves with on some weird twisted away,
but it was very much. He really wanted to have
control over everything and be her savior. That's what he wanted.
And literally backfire kim me only on Martinell do you're
gonna do nothing. You messed it up. You literally over

(20:30):
overreached and messed it up. So Martin can't help you
with that except get married.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
This whole thing is is messy to me only because
now of the introduction of the Sidwell side of it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Oh so, folks, Frank, did you hear about this? Someone
I guess leaked it early, some actor. I don't know
who did it. I don't know who. I don't know
who ked it, leaked it.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I mean I had heard that mister Mathison may have
mentioned something about that.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Sore get pissed. Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, I mean, regardless of about the early leaking of those.
Story Wise, though, I'm kind of I'm bummed because I mean, well,
I don't know, you know, is at the angle that
Sidwell has something to do with the bombing of of
Sonny's place and is doing this as a reparation to
Michael because of the injury to him, since he was
making a big thing like, hey, children should not be involved,

(21:27):
shouldn't be the you know, the targets of you know,
these sort of kind of hostilities between men of you know,
certain business interests, or because I don't know, because if
he's working with Drew for the promenade project, why would
he screw him over? So that seems weird. Uh Yeah.

(21:48):
And also it's just like it's a buffer because I definitely,
knowing how well how much Drew is screwed around with
Will in her life, that this should have been a
clean win for Michael because certainly the judges rationale for
making the choice that she made tracks at it very
least would have been joint custody. Not at the very Yeah,

(22:09):
it would never have. I couldn't imagine going soul custody
for Willow. So but now introducing that, like hey said
will had had his thumb on the decision for this.
Now just that that's a bummer because I because I
don't know what Drew and Drew and Willow thing like,
oh yeah, hey, us getting married? How does that invalidate

(22:32):
everything that the judge reasoned was the whole reason that
she didn't give custody at all to Willow. So you
being married to the guy that I thought you were
making questionable judgments with doesn't make it any better. And
somebody's watching, Oh, we know that's Willow's stepping out at night.
She's having that little psychic psychotic fugue because she's still

(22:55):
so tired when she sees Drew. So she's up at night.
You know she's sneaking of the cues then, And I
don't know why she's targeted on Sasha's baby. That's so
weird to me, But we know Sasha is you know
that will stepping out a night just looking at that baby?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Back to Sidwell, because he was studying at that talk, admitted,
I'm talking to you out of here, like it's your
fluenced out of here. I want it. He was right,
He's right about it, like I want you. I don't
want your influence on, I want your influence gone.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I was happy about that conversation because I'm always like,
you know, hey, I appreciate people's you know, like hey,
you you spoke to me, you know directly. I was
responding kind love that. But also it was a conversation
of like, you're not asking the clear follow up questions
where it's just like, oh, well, you know, what what
are you going to do with this? How would you know?
How would I be safe here with him? Poor Charles?

(23:47):
You know, what are your objectives you know for having
these peers, you know, like like Sonny Wyren' you asking
like other questions just to see, you know, just to
get a feel for what Sidwell is going to be
saying to you about this. It may not be truthful
answers maybe, but at least you're at least being able
to get a read on a guy like I feel
like these are questions I would wanted to ask them
if I was in that room Sidwell.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
In the room where it happened, little habits where it
happened exactly, Well, well, have it's in the reference right, like,
I love that you got in France. Why where That's
why we're meant to be together.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Did you find it unsatisfying or did you find it
like the conversation as it was was enough for you.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I I I I'm gonna say something really nasty. I
forgot my camera.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It was hold on, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Say, somebody say, na have my camera.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I'm gonna say like that, well, let out everybody for
some shade.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I just I just exactly, I just I just I
love Carl Rot who plays sid He's hot, he's hot,
and he's just he's so european Ish, he's so international
and him was studying of both like little things about
like little things.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
You never said that. I was like two little man's
I was. I was kind of amused by that.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Because we still don't know Sidwell's endgame, right, we don't
know it in a way, I'm okay right now with that.
I don't need to know right now. I'm okay. So
I guess I'm kind of the opposite with you. It
was kind of like it was more fun to see
Sonny come out there and him just be really real
with him. It was just like, no, we're I'm a
gambling kind of guy. He's like, well, why are you
You know what, It's just I just I think micro gangsters.

(25:25):
I said a chat that Devin that wins micro gangsters. Yes,
they're they're like little little thing, little put on the shelf.
I just I just thought there was I was more
amused just by the conversation.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
And he goes drink. No, I'm fine, just good to
get to business.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I say, this is a business. I loved it. And
we're seeing Sonny is He's changing before our eyes. Sonny
is getting less less interested in all this crap.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
He wants out.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
He wants he's more into the family stuff. Now he
wants out. You know, he wants out. He already said
that he wants out on some level. So I feel
like the.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Sunny has been divorce of reason for weeks. He's been
the guy.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
He's been diffusing brow and he's like he's like people
are going to him. It's just kind of it's just so,
I mean, him and Anna having a little funny exchange.
You know, I hate the baseball stuff, but him a
geo likeas I feel like he's just like he's the
voice of reason and he is literally changing into this
person who's like, I'm just tired of all that and

(26:23):
I just want to I want to get out cleanly
on some level, so at Sidwell, he don't believe anything.
Sidwell is saying he's not dumb, so listening faces like okay,
sure whatever, but he's also intrigued.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
So I kind of liked it. I'm got this is.
I just I enjoyed the scene, so I didn't bother me.
I enjoyed the scene.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I feel like maybe what bothered me about it was
I mean, I do like how they, you know, said like, hey,
Sidwell said to his Sunny like this this has becoming
like an Alba trust around your neck, all great stuff.
He's tracking where Sunny's coming from. So yes, very good
rationale for that. But I feel like we we what
he's told Sonny in this conversation is that we've already

(27:01):
heard him say before, like hey, I want to get
this in the public opinion will change. They're not going
to care about me anymore, and then it'll pass and
I'll get the peers and the promenad I'll be fine.
So we already we've Sidwell has already reiterated this to
other people. I was hoping to get at least some
extra little kernel of goodness that would drive that would
open up a little bit more into what Sidwell's agenda is.

(27:24):
I feel like I had this. I wanted this conversation
to plant the next piece in that to open up
something that were like we didn't really know about yet,
that that Sunny can maybe teake and and go like,
oh hey, maybe I need to investigate some of this
to kind of really learn what Sidwell's going on, because
I feel like otherwise that whole chat was stuff that
we've are, that we've already known, and so I was like,
it was great to see him together, but I needed

(27:46):
the next step introduced.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And I could disagree with you, I consecree with you.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Frank Well, this is it for me on this show.
Say they say to the show folks, I'm like, we'll
see you next week. By that was gonna end the
show for again, there's some in the show no but
by me. Though for me, he needed to say it
to Sunny. Never heard it, so he needed to say
it to Sunny. On some level. For me, it was like, well,
now he's told that people. You're right, but now he's

(28:13):
telling Sidwell kind of and Side is now telling him
what he thinks. So actually I was, okay, I'm glad
to now Suddy. No, I feel like the more so
Tipid is now Sonny kind of gets a bigger another
feeling about this dude and that he's and that he
doesn't believe him fully, he doesn't trust him fully.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's what it is, because they really took each other
a long time.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So for me, it was kind of like they're finally
back together again for a scene and he's letting him know,
give me those peers, let.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Me have them.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'll handle what happens after that, don't worry about it,
which makes Senny go, wait a minute, why what's going
on here?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
What?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Because you could lose everything. So to me, it was
Sutty needed to hear it, like Sunday needed to hear
what he was thinking.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
So for me, it was fine. We knew about it,
but I think when Sonny didn't know about him, I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I mean, yeah, for me, it's for me, for me,
for me, you know how we talk about like there
are times where it's great that the viewers have more
information than some of the characters. That's great because you're
like and then the fun of it is finding out
like when are these characters going to learn this information
in terms of like the whole Sidwell and his agenda

(29:22):
with Sonny, Like, certainly, yes, Sundy, we knew more than
Sonny going into the scene, but also we don't really
know much as viewers what Sidwell is that the writers
have been keeping that really close to the vest as well.
So that's why I was hoping that this conversation would
have given us, even even just the viewers a little
bit more like, oh hey, this is a little bit
of new information that we didn't know about either. Cool,

(29:46):
and also Sunday's finding out some stuff as well too.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I think it's I think it's coming. I think Sunny
wasn't a vehicle. I think it's just it's coming at
some point. Yeah, I think it's coming. Well there, yes,
So speaking of that, so we have so that is
so that's going on over there on the sidelines over there.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, he's working with Drew. So that's the whole thing there.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
But we have the Holts. We still have Well this
week was it was it was less about there was
not It was not a lot about Brooklyn and all
that we did have the Dante.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
But and we'll get that in the second and Dante
Chasey means seking to jail.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's all there. It was about that in a second.
I'm talking about the Drew stuff. Okay, So will is
upset Sasha's home and the Quartermains. I'm confused by her
how they're writing her. Michael's like, you know, now everybody knows.
So before it was to be hidden, Daisies, I mean

(30:49):
this whole I mean, it makes no sense at this point.
I won't be a single mom. That makes no sense
to me. Let Michael be a fond I mean, you
can still be. You have primary custody, that's fine, And
he was like, actually he's fine with that too, But
this whole thing, I don't want to quartermating influence. I

(31:09):
don't want the Corinthos. We don't even have not stay
for the baby yet. Also, I'm like, that makes no sense.
You like you said you like working at the Quartermains.
You're at Carly and Felicia both going live with me,
And She's like, Nope, I would have the Quartermans because
it's it feels like family, a big family ever had.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
So I'm like, so I'm confused. So you don't. I'm confused, Frank.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
It doesn't really track for me for somebody who wants
to be that independent, yes, to then stay at the
family's place, even though there's a place of business. But
also it's just like, but it comes like you can't
expect to have that sort of sort of family independence

(31:51):
and then also just still stay and stay while you're
staying right in there, it seems so crazy to me. Uh,
you know, it's like it'd be great. It's like she
had taken Carly up on her Metro Court offer. You know,
so she's working at the Metro Court. Yes, Carly is
up so really into these well, but it's different. It's
you know, she's working at a business. She could you know,
take that money and you know, get herself her own place,

(32:12):
and she's kind of living independently of all that. So
I don't know, it seems really weird. I mean, at
least I liked that they did acknowledge, like, hey, Michael
did ask her like, could you just put in your
will that in case anything happens to you, that that
custody would come to me. So it's like, you know,
we don't have to worry about like who would get custody,
something might happen to Sasha. But uh, yeah, I don't know.

(32:35):
You know, I have no idea if they're playing a
long game with maybe Sasha and Michael kind of eventually reuniting.
I don't know. I mean, as of right now, like
it doesn't seem to be on the radar for either character.
But yeah, I mean I don't see I don't see

(32:56):
them getting involved with anybody else unless you're introducing some
new blood into the show. Right So I'm going I
feel like at some point it's gonna lead back to
them possibly reconciling.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
The chests, Mats shaming in one luck up Dante and Chase.
That's why he writes, but that would be more airtime
for John Jay York.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
We can't have that, lo o L. That's pretty funny,
you guys, I.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Know your man. I know a man. I don't know.
They won't have him on, but I think in real
life you're still going through some of the stuff he
was going through. I think it's why he's not as much.
Don't quote me on it, allegedly, so eventally everything Yeah,
so that yeah, that's get of my nerves kind of.
But Michael is like, I'm against Drew. He goes to

(33:36):
Curtis and it's like, let's just work this out, and curse,
I'm trying to get like recog resignation. I didn't see
that coming. I'm like, resignation. I thought five years I
thought it was a whole thing they had or whatever.
But he's like, I can't be brought down because of
my wife and what's going on and and all that stuff.
And I'm like, okay, I'm like, but the committee tears,

(33:58):
and I'll be like, you gotta stay here. Obviously we
can work this out together.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I mean I do, like I mean, Michael being very
committed to taking down Drew. It makes sense to show
up your partnerships. So yeah, I can see why he,
I mean attracts me. Why Curtis like if he knows
he's compromising Aurora because Portia's blackmails was just kind of
hanging on him, you know. I could see why he
would want to resign, thinking like this is not he's
putting the company ahead of his himself in that moment.

(34:27):
And I can also see what Michael's like, no, no, no, no, no,
let's let's use this. Let's use every means at her
disposal to at Tag Drew.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yes, and it also comes out of several things are
shooting out of there. Now that's a that's a little
part of the tree, and there's certain branches coming out
of there. So one of the branches is Jordan. Curtis
reducts talking to Anna. Frank, you can cry you want, Frank,

(34:58):
she just talking to Anna. Well, that possible little girl
talked about that possibility.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Uh yeah, I mean sure, I mean yeah, I mean
that reship, the relationship ended, you know, certainly of Portia
and Jordan. I would prefer Curtis with Jordan, And I
was like, Curtis was just too quick to bail on that,
especially when he's given Porsche more chances for considerably worse

(35:30):
things liked related, Yeah, hello, I mean that that he
gave her the chance. It never attracked me that given
how Curtis left Jordan for what seemed like a way
less thing, that he stuck around after Porsche, that he
had a daughter for all these years and never knew

(35:52):
about it, Like ho on, that's a lot, that's that's
a way hafty thing. So now that we've got this
whole Drew stuff happening, as well. It's like, hey, it
tracks for me. Now why Curtis will be like I
think we're done. I think we're done. So I don't know,
but I don't know if I really want to see
it back with Jordan. You know, it's like I don't

(36:12):
know if I need to see that. Those little things
kind of like do I do you want that for Jordan?
Do you want that for Curtis? Just to be bouncing
back and forth between each other. So that's why I
like the Isaiah thinking, I don't know why the show
again introduces something interesting and then immediately just kind of
quashes it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I know they were good together, Well they were a
long time ago. Yeah, I thought you and Jordan had something. Yeah,
they changed the character and drew, so they changed the direction.
I agree with everything on this point. I grew to everything.
And I had to laugh because when you dressed down,

(36:52):
both Nina and and at home grow at the same time,
and they both are just like I mean, they were
like little like little lost dogs. And when she was
like this is insane, and he goes it might be insane,
but you both meed you'll lose your all, your license,
your and you'll lose your daughter, and he doesn't well,

(37:13):
I mean, so of course they hate him, obviously, those
two hate him.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
And separately Kurs to Berry. Look at Portscha, you look
at her. He's like he's over there.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Nina run over and crying over to Ava and like,
go back and forth, should I tell, try not tell?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Should tell? Try not tell?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Ama said this time, don't tell. Yeah, I've been trying.
I've been trying to tell you to say something from
the beginning, and I just like, don't tell. I kind
of almost at this point. She shouldn't at this point.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
And she's she let it go on for so long
that she, uh, you know, Ava makes tracks like you know,
you can't trust how Will is going to react her
and Drew. Drew can spin it any which way, and
if she sides with Drew, which she is shown to do,
then you're on the outs.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
So I was like, okay, but back to Porscha and
that Porscha gave Jordan attitude, but she was like, just
get a sort I'm like, okay. I was like I
kind of liked when they were kind of friendly or whatever.
I was like, you know, you have no reason to
give Jordan attitude. Jordan has not really shown her she's
after Curtis. She's never really showed you that, So you
being all jealous makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, Porscha, maybe you are feeling a little insecure about
your actions.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yes, so that's what it is. I'm my girl, Jordan
has never done anything.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Like that, but expecting Curtis to just be like baby
girl is all good?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
He is, she is, And the thing is he's not.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
He's having a hard time with this and the fact
that now Kai told treating all that She's like, we
should stay out of it. But she hates him too,
so she's telling Josh her and Joss have that that
talk where he changed closely fast seeing her one now
it wasn't another talking about it, and she she several times.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Made a mentioned she didn't like if treated just want
to go shoot through?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Uh, And I'm I'm just waiting for when Ki tells
Drew that Curtis is looking for Justinda to to say that,
you know, Drew paid her for the Kennemine, Like, so.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
We have that they're looking for. They're looking for Justinda.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I thought.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I thought, Tracy asked Jason, Yet you know, is that wrong?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Uh? Tracy isn't as Jason.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I thought that she did. I thought somebody asked her
to look forward to you.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
But hey, we got you know, FeliCa Scorpio on the case.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
So Curtis asked, Felicia, that's right. But I thought, why not? Oh,
I don't they go back to your PI? Skilled Like
why not? I thought?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I thought it was very cool they did that, and
can they wait? Because they're all thinking, okay, because also
we have Tracy who hates Drew. Curtis went over there
a visit for a little bit kind of fun see
them together. I ran the scenes together.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's like, oh, it's kind of fun. Were together. She's
kind of amused by him. It was just like, okay,
like what it was weird.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Because I like to And then they bring in Michael.
So clearly Drew, Michael and Traesay have something cooked up
that's gonna happen at this press conference. Yes, but it
was weird that the scene before that before Martin shows up,
ends up with Michael coming in like Kennymine, that's a
it's a horse drug. And then we cut the scene there.
I'm like, well, why what? Okay, So so what he did? Yeah,

(40:41):
what's the big deal? I thought I was waiting for
something that kind of be obvious about that. I'm like,
okay that it was a horse drug. I mean, unless
it's like, oh, we've got you know, we've got a
horse stable here, So that's why I have ketamine in
my in my car because I have horses. So that
doesn't mean that I you know, you can't prove that
this bottle was the on that he was the one

(41:01):
that was used it against Drew Kane. So may that
that could be the cover story, this whole thing that
you know, traces on the hook for this. It's like
the flimsiest reasons, and yet it seems the show's making
it like, oh man, there's a lot riding on this.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I agree with you on that one. Porscha giving Jordan
them looks, and Jordan's seems quite unbothered. She was I'm
hoping for Jordan. Curtis reducts. Tasha, Tanisha and Donald have
smuch chemistry. I have so much rather than Porscha and Jordan.
I've wanted a good Trinal when you ever got it.

(41:39):
Avers seems like the only mother Trina ever really has. Yeah,
he never seen that many Trina and her mother scenes
or at her father's.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
You know, let me start on that.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
No more, Jordan, Curtis, please and thank you, uh, thank you, Dora.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I love that. Please, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Jordan doesn't need to go right back to your X. Nope,
no way, Martin, you said, you know we always say this.
Have you all bounced back and for this soapie? Right?
But East Coaches says, Porteau's Jordan and Stiff around her man.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Akay Stiff Sniff.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
But everybody's hot. But they're all hot, and nobody's Hotbby
Stiff in June Ship. They're all hot but Court. So
I'm just to get all the suspects together. Curtis hates Drew.
Jordan's not happy with you. I don't she hates him,
but she's not happy with him. They were friends. She
didn't really have her say she hates them or not. No.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
And plus, I mean, you know, she's playing, she's she's
playing the Sibol game, so she's not gonna do anything
against Drew since they're kind of suppose they all working together.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I forgot that Curtis knew that she's she's been sidwell
for a reason. I almost forgot about that. He brought
it up.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
So she got that.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Abe doesn't hate Drew, but she's like there because hurting.
Trina and Nina her friends, so they both hate him
of course, so I'm not going to gather all the suspects.
Josh is not fond of him at all either, so
that's but you know, but just doesn't hate it. But
she's not fond of me either, So there you go.
So it's like it's all this little they're they're collecting Tracy.

(43:08):
We got Tracy, we got Michael, oh yeah, that's coming.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
We had Jason, he had Sonny, You've got Carly.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, we're surprised that Jason Drewcy we had a while back.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
This is and really just it really became apparent, just
the height difference between the two of.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
The I know, oh my god. I was like, oh
my god, guys, it's like that.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's like the two Romans. But they brought Drake hoguson back.
He's like two inches taller than the other Roman. So
it's like, I'm like, we'll forgive it. They're both good actions,
will forgive it.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
I mean, I did like the them at both points,
at different points in the conversation. You can quote me
on that that's what the.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
So anyway, so that was kind of so that was
that was we have those things. We don't see them
together very often. So uh in there ports treated like
a little kid.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
That does irritate me the most about.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
He does.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
So I think of any more anything other other juisms
that are going on. I think for this week, that
was about it, you know, to me, was anything else really?
That just that him being in ass and just trying
to Kiy convincing Will to marry him. I mean, he
went out for a jog, you know, for a jog
and it's like okay, It's like that's fine. Yeah, so
you Suppo, see what happens with him. We'll go on

(44:32):
said next storyline and another major storyline, and that is
to fall out from the Geo stuff. So Geo's still
talking to Sunny, but Geo and Lulu had to talk.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
How do you go out that frank?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, you know, I mean that comes out of uh.
I mean the scene that we saw over when Max
he tried to play peacemaker. Yeah, uh we get that
nice soapy smack. I loved it, but you know I did,

(45:11):
like you know, it's like Maxie say to louis like,
you gotta you gotta accept your accountability for your pardon this,
because it's just yeah for Lula to be going like, hey,
I just told the truth, you know a bit much.
So it made sense that they had that scene. And
I guess, you know tracks why Geo wouldn't be mad
at her. Uh, you know, she at least appreciated that,

(45:34):
you know, he was telling her the truth and that
he learns that, you know, what he thought was his
birthday wasn't even his real birthday.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
That was somebody else. She let out.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I'm like, girl her mouth like she's a cracker's telling
all everybody business. Yeah, Lou's tried to find friends, and
so she has a friend of Isaiah so far, and
there's rumors of Isaiah and a Lulu mix.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Uh. I guess sure, you know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't feel against either.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
It's I have a I like Isaiah, and I feel like,
you know, he's got great potential history, especially if we
make those one life to live connections, which would be
be awesome. You know, we kind of drilled it deep
into that. But I feel like we have just seen
him have these initial setups with a variety of different people. Yes,
and then we never really see anything getting deeper. So

(46:29):
we just so far the show is just treated in
Isaiah's very service level, with a lot of different characters
on the show, and so you know, pick one and
let's start drilling deep.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And the people were saying him port they had to
fight fight, No, I've heard him at Elizabeth. How you
talk to Rick? Rick was like, okay, we ever trying
to like, well, while you're asking all these great blah
blah blah, you know Lucky you've got started her, You're messing.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
He was like, okay, he's like okay. Rick was not
worried about him whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
And who are chat things? Because Isaiah wants to chemist
you with everybody?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah, which is great he does. I mean that's why
I mean, I mean again, I like him. But we
also just needed like he's been around, he's been around
as long as Lucky has, so but we know much
more about Lucky. He just because he's been such a
legacy character. Now we need to really start diving deep
into Isaiah. So we just need, we need the show
to just start investing in him with a character or

(47:38):
a couple of characters but just start drilling a little
deeper into Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well, I mentioned Lulu and Cody. Of course, there's always
that possibly too, especially now that Molly's seen Cody with
Ava as she's perplexed. I hate the storyline so much.
It's it's a soap trope. It's a soap trope that
never works out, and let's go a backfire on everybody.

(48:08):
Christina's of course, and it's just like what.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And I don't know. Yeah, I mean I guess you know, realistically,
Cody and Molly aren't that close. I mean they're friendly,
but still I would think, like you can't help but
know that Molly would notice this, so like why would
you not like go up and say to her like

(48:35):
some you know something or have Christina says, I don't know.
I mean it opens up a lot. I mean, I
don't know. It's just it's some dumb And I've also
heard that that's supposedly like the guy playing Cody is
no longer in contract about so, which is abummer because

(48:57):
it's like, you know, he's You've taking the effort of
the steps to give him a lot of connections. Now,
uh so this is the storyline we're gonna go with,
is him being paid to seduce.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Eva by so much sass money. So these two way
words scorpios, I don't understand. I don't understand what the
purpose was that of breaking them up.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
No, uh yeah we we I don't know, we didn't.
We really don't get anything out of them being cousins
now other than like that's how she got pregnant with
Michael's baby, right, Like, that's you know, great, which I
guess was supposed to be. I guess a revelation that
happens something, you know, to make give stakes to the
Michael Willow thing. But I mean, ultimately Michael still got

(49:48):
the kids. So the grand scheme of things, you know,
even if it was not a one percent legit custody
awarding from the judge happened. So what was the point
of giving will of this baby?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
And Cody right e s question. Cody has zero direction.
He's just kind of he's there as a character that
could have direction. Yeah, I mean, what was the last
time we had like a Tracy Cody scene. It's been
a long time, a long time, and and those are
some great scenes.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
I feel like Tracy was really kind of taking him
under her wing, and we never really saw anything come
of that.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
And the pool. Another character is being used this season
a lot.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Probably you see what you see Wiley on his knees
in the pool.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Come on now, he swam across, held his mouth his
nose the whole time. He can't play three feet. I so,
I mean lots of Wye this week and will going
off with when you found that shirt, I guess.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I thought Michael was gonna forget. There's some lists.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Girls longers like he did it because like he didn't forget.
But she's gracious to her. She was gracious, like, you know,
I'll get it to him. I' let them, Yes, I
will tell them that you love her whatever. And yeah,
of course she called over there at that time. She
thought she could see the kids. Dumb question, girl, yeah
you think you're s She's like yes, like yeah, moll

(51:21):
I was like yeah, girl, like hello, you let me
see it. I know example, No, I mean made fun
of it at Maya, but we don't. I mean, we
think it's amazing. I mean they paid a good penny
for that pool, they use it, use it good. I mean,
I'm just we're just being funny. And you know it's
it's not that deep. But yeah, we're all about here.
The pool is great. Yeah, why do has horrible green screens?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I know, so that's what. But this one the pool, Yeah,
we don't.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
We like it.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's fine. As long as they fun of it.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
We like it. Yeah, I mean no, I mean it's
been gosh, what four years.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
The pandemic, So yeah, I can do the pandemic said
hit episodes, so by four years because that's nice. Sat Yeah,
i mean like four months out of the year. Yeah,
you're getting slid slid us.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
To that scene that said yeah exactly, so I'm here
for it.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
And some new person Angela whoever, Hey, gir else you
had a line. She's got some screen time. When she
was in the pool, we're going going, Angela Maria her,
she was.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Watching Wiley And I also just to like, like Geo
the shots I am lifeguarding. It's just ridiculous, and just
him walking around. Uh, there's like, you know, maybe one
person in this pool, but.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Right here on the edge, you're ready to go, there
to go and where to go? But we got Michael
and Christina talking and she almost told on herself. So
I gave him advice and He's like, you ain't talking
about me anymore, Like we're going here, and I just
wanted to tell you stuff. That's just I just know Ava, Julie,
and you should have told what you did.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Uh what Yeah, I was expected why not blab? Why
not blab? Get Michael involved in something else stuff? Uh?
And also what I like about that scene too, is
like you really saw how great those German doctors were.
I mean, look at that.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
There was not a scar anywhere.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Not.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
That was great. That was great. Man, don't see that.
I don't see all that. Meanwhile, the axe sat we
had the axe ring set.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Forgot that.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
When we had Lucas and Mario talking about Mario, I said, Mario,
what's his name again?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Marco Marco talking?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I was like, oh, he said set again, Like oh yeah,
that sets there? Like why were they at the pool?
So yes? So anyway, so that's yeah, So that's the
whole thing we're gonna get there, deb And that's a
good one too. But they were talking over there and
he left some stuff out to Lucas like I'll tell you, okay,
I'll tell you, and they tell them stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
He didn't mention any names. He just gave general descriptions.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, they had a little fun time with it. Less
you had a little fun time with it, so that's
got fun.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, you know, And this I still don't understand. Like,
so Natalia is also not filling in Marco about the
conversations he's been having with Sonny. So now Mark was
operating like thinking like, oh, she's in danger from Sonny now,
and she's also getting squeezed by the the eighty A.
It was a horrible position for her to be in.

(54:32):
Uh So, I don't know what the storyline is supposed
to do. I'm fine with Natalia just taking Sonny up
on her deal of you re lookatting to Brazil and
just living there. Just just do that and enjoy your life.
Your kids don't like you very much.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yes, yeah, so, I mean it's higher is off screen
right now, and Sunnis believes I believe he's a believe.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Folks have said a chat they heard she's getting killed off.
I don't know, I don't know anything. So yeah, interesting,
I was like, killing off redundant to me, we kill
her all, but that just really okay.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I also don't know, like what that would serve I mean,
unless she's an accidental death, Like you know, they're targeting
Sonny and Attalia ends up being the one that pays
the price, like so many women in Sunny's life. Yeah,
it's uh. I mean, the only thing I can see
that is like if that Sidwell making a move against

(55:29):
Sonny and he accidentally takes out his ex wife and
then he that kind of is the potential thing. He
doesn't want to let his son know for fear of
driving a wedge between the two of them. You could
get that out of there. Maybe that could be interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I don't know, I mean it was even extras story.
What I mean, I you know, I care to.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Live about the character. Okay, it's a shame.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Because I you know, I think we both said how
much we enjoy Evil Larrouge just as a performer. It's
just a bummer, like this was the way the show
of the character, this is the character of the show,
decided to write for her.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I don't, I don't, I don't get it. Yeah, she's
already Yes, she's already gone. I don't mean only anything
we bring her back sty gone. I believe that's so,
that's the story. So she is at the pool working there,
Emma still trying to get Dalton. There's a whole thing

(56:25):
with her showing up to Joss at work and Josh
trying to get some stuff copy from Vaughn. Vaughn kisses
her when she walks in. They play it off and
they kiss to get the pools and now they're dating.
In quotes, that was like, that was that was that
was all we knew that was happening. Happen of course.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Uh And and I just like that, well, at least,
like Geo's in like, Okay, I know you're trying to
just get to uh the professor by just like to
using him so to speak. Uh, so I'll help you
with that, Okay. Uh, it's all weird. And but and
I do like at least that Vaughn and Josh are

(57:12):
up to like oh yeah, it was just you know,
trying to just use her looks to get the professor's
good graces. So now we get to get see Vaughan
joined her environment, her her animal rights group to try
to steer in the wrong direction. We're just giving more
for Vaughan to do. Baby, We're we're all in around Vaughan.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Well, Josh apparently it's during her way around and uh
w SB World and it's becoming thought things and how
to copy stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
How you really like this is Jocelyn and Jack's WSB
agent man.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
There we go. They're going, I don't know how I
feel about it, but they're going, They're going that directions fully.
And Emma's like, I'm gonna go with the rout of slut.
I'm gonna show skin and do what I can to
give attention. Yeah, he's the cool too. He's in the
pool also.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yes, but Emma and ge Ork together.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Uh yeah, and they boy, they really they can throw
a softball, have a given catch like nobody else.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I also didn't need this business with the dog. I
didn't call him out back.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yes, not big, not big. Yes.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
That the beagle escape the lab so on road. That's
kind of funny. Yeah, all of a sudden, I don't.
I don't chip or anything on it. That's her interesting,
she thought. I didn't though about that far. But I
like them together. I like Gidea together. I do.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah, I mean I feel like, you know, something's gonna
happen over the course of the summer. Yeah, with you know,
the professor joss Or and Emma to cause some tension.
We know, g H. There it's never an easy segue
into a romance between two people. There's going to be
some contrivance. It's going to irritate the heck out of us.

(59:06):
And it's only a matter of time for m G.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah agree, But yeah, he's and you know, my grandma
likes you staying with us.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
She does, okay, Yeah, well she's gonna enjoy this dog
even more. You can see how. And it was when oh,
that was like, he'll stay with.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Me, man, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
We are sunning them talking because it's time for based softball.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Well, I mean again, we're back in our favorite local.
You know, it's great to be out there at the park.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yes, right over there. Briefly, I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
The best, the best, and everybody has the most awkward
entrances and exits and the park they just come from
weird directions always.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yep, they do.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Outside again and was a backdrop where you had, I mean,
Anna and Sunny share share each their grandchildren are talking
each other, kind of waiting there talking and she kind
of likes him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
And and you know he said, uncle Sonny goes wait
a minute, he goes, I know it was weird to
change its change over.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
That was good. The show's good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I mean, I mean that part of the show is
it's I don't care for I don't care for baseball softball,
but they're finding ways to bring people together. So to
see Anna and Sunny the scene always works. To see
Geo and Sonny the scene that works. You're seeing Emma,
Geo and and one I think I'll form were together

(01:00:44):
at one point. That guy's kind of cute. We're showed
some family stuff. They're trying to be a little lighthearted.
I get it with all Printha stuff. Now, was I
the only person who kind of saw a little bit
of chemistry between ady A Taylor and Sonny A little bit,
I mean a flirt, you know, right, And of course
the women always she's his type completely, I mean dark hair.

(01:01:09):
And to say, oh folks, oh East Coast. So okay,
you haven't watched that show a long time. So Tony, Tony,
Frank and I always joke about the outsides. It's actually
on the lot, So how can you explain this? Prospect
Studios is in a place called those Felis Hills, and
so it's a part of this part of northeastern LA.

(01:01:30):
It's next to Hollywood, and it's very hilly, and it's
and the studios in a residential neighborhood. So we're assuming
they shoot in the back of the lot because it's
like there's a chain lead fence and I see I
literally see palm trees. I go out over there. They're
right down there. I can literally see South Los Angeles

(01:01:52):
from from the thing. So it's where I don't know
exactly on the lot where they shoot it. It's the
same place every time, but it's somewhere eyes it is.
It's awkward because it's like it's on a hill, which
makes sense that they're It's like it's hills where they are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Have you ever been Have you been to the studio, Frank,
I have none.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I have. Let me just see a cold time. So
that's it's it's a residential neighborhood, folks. So I was
there twice, once to pick up our presence a long
time ago, and then once for the spree of plane.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I was there for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
James, your mission is to get on the lot the
third time and take a picture of the park, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Oh my god, I just can't tell what sight it's on,
because because on one side it's a street, we may
mission around that corner.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
We missed to go around that corner.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
And Stephen's if I say, if I that's maybe one
day I'll find you guys, maybe one day I'll find it.
That got a new I got a new gold Now
I had about that before. So it's back on a
lot somewhere, and so I'm assuming it's just on a lot.
So we don't know exactly where it is, but it's
not a Gremouth Park is not far from there. Great
Park is a little further northeast. Still its still a

(01:02:58):
little further up. Yeah, parks above Los Felis, it's above
it's feels. That's her, that's her La. In a minute,
let's get into it. That guy, Terrence Matthews, These male
accessing characters, I wouldn't think towards are into you see more? Yeah,
all right? They said, yes, James, and do you see
Sonny and her? I said, but she's just type totally

(01:03:22):
and obviously she's trying to get in for some reason.
But he's kind of using those flash those dimples. He
did those dimples. You knew what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Of course, you know, during your being discerningly charming.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yes, well they'll see jail chance backg extra, I hope.
So I keep trying and I've gotten no soaks, but
none of this, none of them. So yeah, so there's
so the softball, the a I mean, I hate it,
but it does bring some people together so we can
see him talking, so I mean it does, it does
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I mean, you know, we gotta get back because this
opportunity to see the banding cages again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, dontay part of that and all that, So I
want to switch over now. It's because that's the little
small part and the doggy found a dog and whatever.
But I want to talk about actually the Chase Dante scene.
I actually enjoyed it. I thought it's two men, two
manly kind of men standing up for himselves basically, and

(01:04:20):
guys standing up for each of their women, so to speak.
And there was truth in there on both sides a
little bit. And Dante did kind of come around after all.
Chase got him to kind of start thinking about how
he was treating Geo. But with Chase defending his wife

(01:04:42):
and he's saying, hello, you guys were young, Like, I mean,
what do you I mean, I'm kind of tired of
this whole broke into something she thought was best for her.
She was a kid, thought she was the best for her.
She should be penalized for that. It's like, you know,
and like I said, it was like Dante, where you
going to change diapers all of a sudden and stuff
like I just saying his frustration. I'm not knowing, but

(01:05:02):
it's kind of like it's not black or white.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
So I kind of I like the I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I love when they could not get it together like
two little babies, and I was, Okay, come here, that's it,
I say, improve it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
There it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
If you need to turn the hose on him, that
maybe laughed so hard you did turn the hose on him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I loved it. Well, what were your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It's you know, I guess they go with the thing
yet I mean, yes, not knowing this big life secret true,
but it it's I think it's been hard for Dante,
both with that and the GEO thing, to take yourself
out of the mindset of a grown adult with you know,
with children and life experience, and drop yourself back into

(01:05:45):
your sixteen to eighteen year old self who doesn't have
who wasn't that mature, doesn't have that life experience yet,
and expect that that that kid would feel the exact
same way that you feel right now. Yes, you would
want to raise that baby. You would want to have
your life up ended by the responsibility of being a

(01:06:06):
parent at that age, you know. So I'm glad at
least that was the nice thing out of you know,
for Dante to be like, yeah, maybe especially with the
Geo stuff too, because the show was so heavy handed
and how hot they made Dante about this whole thing
with Geo just to set up this this really unnecessary conflict,
Like you didn't need to be like already having this

(01:06:29):
this layer of the way Geo's found out, you didn't need,
Like this was just like too much to throw on,
like the Dante coming in hard on Geo as well,
Like you could have taken that out and and Geo
would still feel weird about wanting to have a connection
with Dante, right the show decided, No, we gotta we
got to give it a reason for like Geo to
really just not like Dante, let's do this, Boo, it's

(01:06:53):
over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I'm glad that He's like, I'm glad they're rectifying and saying, okay,
I was too hard on him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
And I mean it's stuff like when you're you're divided
by the woman you love but also your best friend
and where you know your priorities and your loyalties, uh
and who you tell what and when to that is
that is tough. I mean, it's it's a very there's
a lot of nuance involved with that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yes, And I know what Chase was like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
That was like, you say, it was not my story
to tell you know your favorite and Louis said it too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Yes, I tell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I have a drink everybody. But in truth, that'd being
part of it is that it's hard. That's part of
the truth. But you stand by his wife. He said,
I'm gonna stand by my wife, which is she's of course,
what what's gonna do? Will stand by his wife? And
again with with Dante, I've been where he's been, so
I know what that feels like. Also, so it's kind
of it's like a weird it's a whole like I said,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Just black and white. It's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
And I think I love how Sunny talks to Geo
just says, take your time making decisions right now. You
don't want to talk to right now, and you're you're
entitled to your feelings. You have your feelings. And he's
he's mainly mad at the parents. He's not mad at Lulu.
He's not mad at me. He's kind of mad lost.
I guess little bit them too, But he's more mad

(01:08:12):
at Brooklyn and Dante. Dante Loum is guided, but Brooklyn,
he's like, that's the mother, that's his that's his birth mother,
so you know, and she didn't look for apparently that
hurts his feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So he's at she.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Has feelings on Brooklyn giving him up as an uncount
for kids. Yeah, and it makes sense. Yeah, I agree
with that, not saying it's right or wrong, but I
agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I mean, you know, no matter how loving of a
situation an adapted child falls into, there's still got to
be that that lingering question about why did my birth
mother not want me? Yeah? I mean I would think
that you would want it, You would want an answer
for that, and I don't know if the you know,
would the answer ever be satisfactory?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I don't know. I have some friends who are adopted.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I don't know what they I don't know, and I
don't what they think. I have one friend who doesn't
want to know his birth parents. He said, I got
my parents are fine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
But he knows he's adopted, and he's like, neah, I'm good.
I said, that's a tough thing. I think it's a
very interesting situation. I wish I also adopted. Trust me,
that didn't happen. He said, was my real father?

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Where is he? No, he's right here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
But folks who really are adopted, I don't. Yeah, that's
that's such a sty situation. I mean, you never know
what the backstory is. You know, you just don't know what.
That's a painful thing to do. So where was to
smoke for Cody? Well, I mean, you know, you did
talk to Cody a little bit, but Cody was young
to see. I think it was they were all young
together and all totally does just drop her off at

(01:09:42):
the back home and they kind of knew a little bit.
But I don't know, I got he just he just
Dante was more about Lulu and more about Chase, apparently
more about hitting Geo. So I mean that's his stuff
was a little more measured somewhere else because he didn't
like go off of Brooklyn that much. It kind of

(01:10:03):
it's like kind of understands Brooklyn a little bit, like
he's mad, but it's like he kind of nderstands.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like everything comes, Like I
feel like Lulu's thing comes for like after once She's
and Brooklyn's irritation, like once she O's mom died. Why
wasn't the secret said then and that once? Uh, like
you know why Brooklyn didn't tell Dante sooner?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I don't know. Well, yeah Dante did say. I mean
you wouldn't know what how it feels it almost lose
your seconds. You're not a father. You didn't apologize? That
was looked too far? He would he apologized, but it's
truth in there a little bit, but he apologized.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I mean he brings to Bailly Loo for you know,
a tew months atle.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Bit, But I get it. I mean, it's your child.
Things do change, for sure, you know, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
But he's don I like the apology that was too
fighty Like that was too that was too much and
I'd like to apologize on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I mean, just anybody, because he was close to Violet too,
So it's like whatever, you know, a kid in your care,
you know, something happens, it's still it's still painful, yeah,
let's say on some level. So but but yeah, I
know that's when your child is a little different. So
uh I d Turner and Michael. Oh, I didn't even
I didn't even think about those thing together. Interesting because

(01:11:29):
I already feel they're itching towards Michael and Sasha.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
But damn party thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Maybe it's back to Michael and Willow again, like get
her out front of his thumb and the real Willow
comes back or something, and Michael's in love with her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I feel like that's just that's possibly too. Everybody thinks
she's under the thumb of Dru.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Yeah, we've seen enough of that manipulation, the way he
talks with her, So.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I'm saying, anybody thinks she's influenced, So I feel like
it's not the same girl. So I think Michael does
love her. He saw glimpses of her in there. If
you get her out of there, who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd want to, though, I mean,
because you know, if if it was you know, Drew
this time, who's to say that there's not going to
be somebody in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
What did Josh say, you know what you get when
you marry a cheating wife, a cheating wife. That I
did say that, so, I mean, you can't get a
plainer of that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Kids. She did say that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I agree with that because she did cheat. I mean,
that's whole thing. So Mayby agrees that Will was talking.
Frank I said earlier today, he thinks that she's she's
talking to baby. Of course the baby will come up missing.
Of course that's just so trupe. So can't the baby
because she misses hers? You, Yeah, I get my babies.
You can't have him either. I'm saying, I know you
guys are gonna hate me, and I don't care. You

(01:13:03):
guys can hate me all you want. I wish it
was Nell. I want Nell to come back and just
rip everybody in the shreds high from that cliff and
she's gonna take Sauceres's baby and goes. I'm not getting
back to gating my children, my child wildly, like I
wanted to come back and just like rip everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
That would be so crazy. If she came back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yep, that's why. That's what I was like, That's what
I was saying. That would change everything. If Nell came back,
that would change anything. What she's up with Drew? What
was she what she teams up with with with her sister. Yeah,
let's get back to those quartermains and what they did
to us. That could be good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
So I'm just saying, yeah, I mean I feel like
and Nell think could work best in a short term visit. Yeah. Yeah,
but if we're like, no, no, no, let's have around
for a couple of years for a storyline. I don't
want to see Nell for that long.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
She comes back and disrupts. Yeah, it goes out again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Well, David asked, could they be turning Michael Will into
a young Alan and Monica Grank's thinking, folks, you're thinking,
I mean the rock tile and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I mean maybe, right, Uh yeah, I mean, you know,
like certainly the two of them have never been intentionally
hurtful towards each other. Yeah, I mean, so maybe it's
a spin on that. Uh you know, we need we
need Michael and Drew wrestling in some attic and for

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to collapse on the two of them. Groof are you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
I've had to have already in my life PTSD, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Just wrestling some man up and a roof collapse down, James.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I wish it was that easy, have fun. There was
a man involved on top of me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
No, what's on the roof?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Interesting that time he wasn't there at that time. It
was a random man on my roof jumping down as
FoST birthday, it's me turns forty on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Oh are you Are you doing your usual spanking machine
with him?

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yes, he enjoys that very much, with a whole spankage session.
And then we'll be hungry afterwards we'll go eat uh
Nell and Drew all the fun. See I'm telling you,
I'm like, you know, or we'll get a reality break
so I can advice from now. We're going now as
a as a spirit of her imagination. That's a good one, right,

(01:15:52):
that's a good one. That could that could be something
will spinning up. It will spliting. She had a bad mother, harmony,
she had Shiloh. It was just she has so many problems.
I can see her splitting. That'd be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Uh yeah, I mean, I feel like, you know, with
her not remembering what she's doing at night. Yeah, and
she's you know, peep into the queue engine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
What time breakfast? What time is it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I just had to go turn out a mobile.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, I'll make you breakfast whatever you want, like gross gross,
But yeah, So I mean that's it's uh, you know,
I I always been to Neil stuff. But I'm always
you taking short term. I don't say I think we
offer program. It's like short term because she can totally
mix up stuff. And that's why we need villains. It
goes back to my whole thing again. So we get

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villains on these shows, and of course it's supposed to
not like them. But I see the fans always when
we had we had what's your name, We're like, oh
my god, Spencer's woman.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I'm thinking her name all was not?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I almost said Eve, whoever her name was? She was
on the show, and she was she was wreckon having
became Kevin's daughter and and Heather's daughter. Her name no
not now the other one I have blinking out her name,
es may thank you, esme God get her name. That's

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say I'm saying. Those are people hated her, But that's
the whole point she's supposed to be hated, and that's
kind of the you need, and you need villains. You
kind of need villains, that's kind of what you need
because again they propel story, they do stuff right now,
They've needed so many people, you know, Ava, Carlyli, they're

(01:17:46):
all very new at this point. There's there's nobody even Nina.
They're almost almost forced shells themselves. There's no one out
there that's just like Lucy. They're all bad girls when
first starting, they're not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I feel like that's the kind of the evolution of
every character of because you can only feel like you
can write so many different things without like at least
a character needs to also mature as well and so
realizing the error of their ways, and that's how you
also generate other stories. And you've got to do a
redemption stuff. So I feel like any long term character,

(01:18:22):
you're gonna run into the risk that they're going to
just they're going to mature out of the character that
they the fiery character they used to be when they
first came on. Yes, I mean it's very it's it's tough.
I mean, like you know, uh, like Adam, you were
able to kind of keep that ride that for a
long period of time. But other characters, it's tough to

(01:18:43):
be able to do that. Yes, so I feel like
you need to introduce new younger versions of those so
we can get more of those characters. I mean, I
think that goes for any soap. It's like, you need
the soaps need to give engaging storylines with the legacy
characters because they can. Certainly there's great history they could
be explored with all of them, but also introduced compelling

(01:19:04):
new younger characters that can kind of take on those
more fiery rolls, and then they will eventually evolve and
take over that stuff as well too. But you gotta
keep constantly re replenishing the cupboards.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
And Tracy is softer. I know we have a scene
we have to talk about before we before we go
see me. I'm talking about that. I thought, oh, this
was happening Elizabeth and Christina. Did you expect that scene.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
On?

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
He has a new hair in and she was like, Okay, Tonny,
come on over a bitch, and he talked to you
and laid it out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Uh yeah, I'm I guess a necessary scene for like
to continue. Like Elizabeth is basically Lucky's proxy now for
this scene, right, but I am also curious to see
what the next step is. I mean, I I assume
at some point Liz will find out that that Rick
has been part of a black Milsky against the Lexus,

(01:20:09):
so that will diminish Rick and Liz's eyes again. But
then also there's the other angle, like, hey, maybe Liz
and Rick we'll get together, and that separates Ava and Rick,
and that's how that things start falling apart. Two.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
So we know it's all gonna come out, right, we
all know to come out?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Does come out? Now what happens and we I don't
know what's gonna happened. It's all gonna come out at
some point, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
But yeah, right now, just because Luck he's now gone,
Rick said I'm here to be your friend.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Because he was like, yeah, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
You always hear different under all said, okay, you know
the look he's gone, I'm here as a friend, which
I mean he has a friend, so he's helped her out.
So I'm like, gone, girl, you're taking an attitude. You
went to him several times, he helped you out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
There was that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
But so there's that whole thing going on we haven't
seen recking ricking Avery together in a long time. We're
assuming it together. We don't going on there. But it
was like towing towards Cody or that direction. We have
a listener who's solo, solo by herself, kind of just
sitting there. So it's like it's all this stuff kind

(01:21:17):
of going on, and now she's just Christina stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
She was like, I'm not gonna I'm gonna press charges.
I'm gonna, you know, just don't do that again or
else basically, and I put a little scared, a little
scared in the Christina and I was like, OK, I
like that, she's gonna get a little talk and didn't
let her explain.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
You tried to kill somebody. I don't want It was
and me and real she didn't she didn't care. It
was like, I give f what's your reasoning? Was that's crazy?
Which it is, Yes, I mean that's basically. It was like,
that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
But you understand she she she made me want to
kill her.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I know That's how she was acting. They're like, no,
done I do with that. It was it was just
like she was in the mood, but yeah. So, but
now with Lucky God also, we have a whole I
said Isaiah, going I should watch over Elizabeth and Lula
because of Lucky. Yeah, gotta take over that crown. So

(01:22:15):
I'm curio to see what happens with all that. But
then that what it's actually mean.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
But if that's the case that I need the show
to really start investing in those relationships, Yes, I agree.
I agree, you know, just like and don't give me
any of the Lulu's not my story, gonna tell.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
About Carly And they've had some more scenes together here
in their reason of late there's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I will say the one scene I thought was really
weird to me and I and I don't know what
the show's intent was to include. It was when they
bring Sasha the wrong baby and then the everyone freaks out,
and then they bring the right baby in and then
we see Felicia and Lucas outside saying like we got
to find out what's going on about this. I'd like
to continue just advocate to you know, and looks like

(01:23:01):
I'm gonna go look into this too, like what was
the point of that whole scene and are we getting
into something where I mean, clearly with the whole death
of Sam and other people that you know with Cyrus
is in there. Yes, g H is not the most
secure area. Are we getting into a storyline we're gonna
be talking about, like, you know, hospital infrastructure and security

(01:23:23):
and is I don't know what the point of whole point.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
In that scene was. Oh, either your guests as good
as mine. I have no eighty one people watching. Thank you.
I appreciate we appreciate that. Let me catch anything.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Uh, I think we did.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
We did too. I don't think I caught caught everything.
So I think really quick, wildly and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
We didn't have it. We didn't have it. Wasn't there wasn't,
there was no. There was really no major Brooklyn or
nattering those people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
No, you know, I mean, I'll do a mini little
stand on my Monica's soapbox right now. Carly and Felicia's like,
oh yeah, Monica's set up everything for me at the house.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Just it just shows like you can't just like just
recast Monica, just recast her, because you keep having her
do all this important story stuff off screen all the time. There,
so there's a reason you still want this character around
to be able to make things happen. It's yes, like
you can't. I'm tired of them just like name checking

(01:24:46):
that Monica is making all this stuff happen, you know,
just off camera all the time. Just you clearly there's
a really you were you were showing that there is
a need to have that character present. Yes, just recast
Honor Leslie. Absolutely, But like recast this, g H is

(01:25:06):
going to find. I have faith in GH that for
a role as important as this, they can. They can.
They they are known to more often than not be
successful in recasts. Uh, so I have full confidence that
they could. And just imagine somebody is make the fantasies
as engaged as the Michael recast. Uh you know, you

(01:25:27):
know the quartermain recast back in the back in the day. Yes,
just be optimistic that the and confident in the casting
producer's success rate on the show that they could find
somebody great to replace.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Oh they've got Yeah, I guess it's a conversation and
this is going to lead to something. It was it
was Short Brooklyn and Marco Brett. So I have no
idea of what that means. I have no idea what
they're they're doing. I mean, it's like let's look into
what happened with the home. It was Daddy, it was

(01:26:06):
it was it was, it was Valentines, And I mean,
all this is I don't I mean, we all know
the history of what happened and how she carried the baby,
saying it was basically it turns out it was not
her little Ben. Turns out it was actually Rocco. So
I'm like, I ain't trying to an't gonna redo the story?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Like it's Rocco not there?

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Like, I don't know what's going on now, Brooks going
after Rocco or she's gonna have to I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
But it's not Brick So is it really Britt or
is it a Brit look a lot? I don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
I mean, for me, it needs to be the real
brit otherwise, right, Uh, this is hey, Rocco, this is
what happened to sow you were, this is how you
were originally born and can see what happened we I mean,

(01:26:58):
because I guess we've never seen Lulu and don't they
have that conversation with Rocke? I mean on screen, we
don't know if they've ever had they could they could
have maybe for all we know. But I don't know
if like, is that such a like a weird is
the point of it to show, like, see, Lulu, you
were completely honest with your child, and do you want
them knowing this? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
I don't know. It feels weird, Like I don't know
if I can equate like those two revelations of like
putting up a child for adoption and then just you know,
somebody stealing one of your embryos, uh, giving birth to
your child, and then you reclaiming that child. I mean,
I mean it is surrogacy of sorts, so even though
it was you know, illegally done.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
I don't think like Rocca learning that if he never
knew about that story wouldn't be as devastating. And I
don't think really gets it's kind of a lame attempt
at Brooklyn and trying to get something back on Lulu.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yes, like I said, I don't mean, I'm like, I
don't because it's just they're just starting a storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
I don't have any I don't say. I'm just like, okay,
so wait and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, I'm all about Brooklyn trying to retaliate against Lulu.
For sure. I just wanted to be something that's more devastating,
potentially devastating than this whole brid thing. But if he
gets his Brit back, I will take that as a
way to just get his Brett Brit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Back on camera and bring back all Breight too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Oh yes, Oh, and then I guess we should mentioned
for a second, like, I know your boy kids, Schriner
made the post about his dressing room.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Oh, Jim, Jim, Kim, Jim, Yes, yeah he is. It's
funny because he's parts bitterer parts, gossipy parts over the
top and all was posted General Hospital. So when I
saw that was just like, I don't gonna say. I'm like,

(01:29:00):
I'm like Scott kids, Trider, I don't, I don't tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Yeah, uh, I can't imagine this is and this is
certainly not the last we've seen in Scottie Baldwin. For
sure we will see Scotty Baldwin at some point, and sometimes,
uh you know when that is. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
But he's talking online. I trust me. He started talking online.
He just had he just had Letcher Robint Matson recently
I saw that. I was like, oh, but yeah, it's
the whole thing about stealing an egg. It's a whole.
It's a whole as a whole thing. Both her births
were very strange. They weren't and originally Georgie was supposed
to be theres too. Remember that thats the whole thing

(01:29:45):
about that. And she brought up to Maxie. Maxie lied
and Snelly had sex. She got printed by Spinelli. Uh so,
so Lulu's eggs were all have the whole story line
by the by themselves, all the eggs, all of eggs,
all themselves origins.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, I don't know how. I mean, I'm all down
for so parents having to have scenes telling their children
about the outlandish way some of them were born exactly,
but who knows. So I again, like I'm saying, like
I don't think Rocco's birth is so devastating. It doesn't

(01:30:27):
Pale doesn't rise to the level of what happened with
Geoe's adoption. That it's going to be kind of weak
sauce from Brooklyn. So like, I, you know, I want
Brooklyn to do a real quarter main counterstrike. And if
you do it. It's got to be something that really
hurts Lulu, and I don't think this does.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Yes, that's we'll see. Now that's everything I know that
for sure. That's everything that is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
And I do want to see more scenes of Tracy
trying to navigate this relationship for her love for Brooklyn
and her definite love for Lulu, and how now the
two of them were really attacking each other, how she
how she navigates that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
All know, Tracy and Martin, what were seeing together? All
that et sex? You know what it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
You know this what happened when he was eating the
fruit off the thing with his hands and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
She was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
That was hilarious. They're their gold together. They are gold
the they're gold together to you comedic geniuses up there
just doing their thing when it came over, but its
all he was all touches and stuff whatever, and it's
just like, what do you just my breakfast?

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Like what do you? I was hilarious, hilarious that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
I like that she tore the speech about twice and
I love when Kurt was like, what she needs to
say is that she'll do it whatever what she needs
to say is I will know what she just say,
she'll do it. That was like, you know, fine, give

(01:31:59):
me your realize the way she does the whole whole
thing about the speech.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
But we laughed. But he was the courts like what
she means that she'll do it. That's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
That's some fun stuff. That was some funny stuff. Like
I said, she's amused by Curtis. He he kind of
likes her, but not still of course it's a whole
it's a whole thing there, so I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
It was. It was cute. It was very cute.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
But I mean, all these seekers are gonna come out.
Everybody's seeing is gonna come out at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
We know it is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
This depends on when that's all. Yes, I always see.
I mean, it's gonna come out that that home goes
slept with Drew. It's gonna come out that he lied
about Chicago. It's all gonna come out. I mean, yes,
it's gonna come out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
It'sn't come out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Why the German lie seems at the institute seems to
be the easiest thing to go verify, And I don't
know why nobody's making any effort on that front yet.
But hopefully it'll happen soon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Folks. Will be back next week, I said we weren't
at first, we will. That's my mother's birthday, but I'll
do something with her separately and some other time. So
so I'll be way back next week and then after that, Frank,
we'll be back to July twentieth.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Done. Done.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
I'll be traveling on two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Of those Sundays from Chicago to Indiana and by Lanta
Chicago I have I'll be in the Midwest for about
three weeks half weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
That taking care of ye Jail J Media Empire.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Yes, I mean have some major stuff happening there, Staves.
You're following me at Jail J Media, James Junior, ce
what's going on? But I have some major stuff happening there,
and I'll be gone for several weeks. But we'll be
here next weekend, next weekend, so we'll close out June
with the show. But it won't be till like almost
late July till we come back a couple. I'll be
like three weeks before we come back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
You're just like just a little miniso variatus.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Right because one weekend is for July weekend anyway, So
one weekends for July and then the other two I'll
be fast absolutely, yeah, so two weeks so it's not
like that. Whatever it's like that, so two weeks or
whatever it is. But as well as you just know
that now and check out the daytime Today shows there's
two this week, so make sure you check those out.
I'll be posted them everywhere so you'll know. Frank they

(01:34:08):
want to follow you, where can they follow you?

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
And all the social media? Is that happy go Jackie?

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Sure it can? Uh you guys, Jase me spies on
Facebook follow it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I know. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Uh, life just gets in the way, It's really crazy.
We will also talk to you guys online. Sometimes you'll
see us commentsary once in a while, face to almost
hunred people who watched us today.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
We appreciate you. We're also on audio. We love you.
Audio guys. Guys are great to us. We'll see you
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