Week Ending 10/17/25 Nathan, Nina, Willow, Josselyn, Valentin

Some Emmy Winner talk and the week that was on the show! Frank and James!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who you're in love with. And that's the story of
our time here. James, Well, I say it, shees you're
in love with and I'm in love with Frank. I
can't help it. Welcome everybody. We are surprised. I said
it me, no shows, I said, like ten times. I lied. No,
I know. I actually told Frank a couple of days

(00:20):
ago because I watched all this weekend. So much happened, Frank, like,
I mean, it's like fool. I mean, yeah, fools through
the head. Kids they are they ain't kidding. They have
been the storylines. I mean, pacing is not even that's
not a problem anymore. They're just they're just going right ahead.
So I thought we gotta talk about it. I don't
want to wait two weeks. I want to talk about it.
And Frank have to be busy. Thank you Frank being

(00:40):
not being busy.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Always there for you, always there for the fans, see
for any going.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Uh so we're here, we're gonna talk about it quiet, James. No,
I actually told a couple days ago. I watch how
much happened, Frank. I mean, there we go cheese and crackers, okay,
hi hi keita on kbec. I found out Keita. My

(01:11):
ancestry got updated and I have one percent from Kbec. WHOA,
all right, I've been there before. I've been to Quebec.
I've been there, so I mint to Montreal. We I
don't know. Uh, guys, we talk. We talk about General Hospital.

(01:31):
The other shows are not on, so this is you know,
they weren't on today at all because of the Emmys.
They'll be back next week long with this show. I'll
be back all next week beyond the Gates? Why are
bold and Beautiful and general hostile? Way back next week
we're talking to ladies, will talk to you. I know
you guys have some burning questions about what happened to
me and what's going on. I'm going to ask a
freaking don't even know either. He has no idea. Fred's

(01:53):
gonna learn, which you guys are learned at the same time.
So come on in mile end. I got a story,
get a glass or something, sit down, and let's we're
gonna talk all about it. You're right all the day
I lied we are on today. I mean think that's
a couple days ago. We're gonna decide to come on.
Do us talk about too much to talk about? As
you guys are coming in. I'll told you those tricks announcements.

(02:16):
There's no Dice in Days today either, obviously because they're
at the Emmys. Uh, but they are just trying to
post some of their interviews. So you check out this
days and the interviews, and I'll tell you guys Number one, guys,
I don't guess I have heard this. There's like two
there's like two things that related to this, but I
don't get heard this on Decemmer thirty first, no more

(02:38):
MTV and I don't have I mean, it's weird because
they were sort of video in like two thousand years.
But the younger me feels a little sad about that.
That's kind of like, right, yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Man to think like how much of a cultural impact? Uh,
I mean it other states that even just say that
that that MTV. Uh yeah. But then just embracing when
they made that that that turn starting with the real world.
I started, you know what happens when stopped being to

(03:12):
play and start getting real. Uh, finally just embracing the
full form of reality.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I haint the downfall was road rolls. Kidding, Uh, I
actually watched watch That's not I'm just kidding. So I
down fall was VH one. Now that was a downfall.
Now I was a headbanger's ball guy. I was a
Yo un raps guy. I was one hundred and twenty

(03:41):
minutes guy. I loved all those shows. And I you know,
we had an a legal back box when I was
a kid, So we were the first person on I
blocked to have MTV back in one, Frank, back when
we had a beta machine HS Beta. That's specially better
than VHS Frank, remember that. Oh yeah, the last uh

(04:04):
MTV still shows videos barely rodeality. That's the whole point.
It is not not used to be twenty four hour
of videos. So unless you're from that type here from
the eighties and nineties, you'll have no idea what it was,
what it really was like in the heyday, and it
was really a cultural It's just it's it's bigger than
I can we can even talk about this on the
on the show. It's bigger than all of us.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean, just think of Michael Jackson's Thriller that was
appointment watching, and that when they announced that's coming out,
you were glued to that see your TV at that
time because you wanted to see it as soon I did.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
We're here in my house here where I live in
the front room that premiere of his video, because it
was like a movie. Remember it's like a movie. Yes, Yes.
When they banned Madonna's Justify My Love, I ran out
and bought this little single. I was like, I'm buying it,
and I was like, MTV will show up, and they
started showing a thirty at nights MTV spring Break. I

(05:04):
used to have a shirt from MTV and he's been
an MTV store in New York. He's been in New
York and I got the MTV Beach House shirt from
three can't word anymore, I have somewhere in the house.
I remember going in buying MTV merch MTV store in
New York and of an era and while I speakings
up to we had two deaths this week, we can

(05:25):
we have death every week now. And both of them
affected my life actually over the years. One is the
Angelo who I was a fan of his, where he
speaking of video You're going on a video for untitled
where it goes back in the back and he has
no clothes on and he goes four and forty has
it's that video is legendary and in seconds, it's freely

(05:48):
from Kiss.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes, my.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Sister had so if you guys are old enough, Kiss
was so over the top. They had this one one year.
They each released a solo album, but together, my sister
had all four albums. I wish I had them now,
had each kind I could hit off in a kind
of here and there. But they all has solo albums
with the makeup on, and it's a whole big deal.

(06:15):
I've never seen Kiss in concerts, but I do have.
I've met much of their work. Were your thoughts on Kiss? Uh?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I thought they were. I mean I was such a
huge fans as a kid. I mean it was like
they were singing superheroes to me because they're all for me.
It was like all they're in costume. I mean, they
had their own comic book where they put some of
their own blood in. Uh man, they had uh and
they had their own TV movie. Oh. I mean, I

(06:44):
was just all all in on the Kiss.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
They were huge that Frank Frank was in The Kiss.
You imagine that. I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I did that. It was my second concert I got
to see them, but they were I think by that
point they kid.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Mask off. Yeah, by then. Yeah, big thing in the eighties.
They went back to makeup later. I was surprised, you guys, uh,
I did say there was no show today. There wasn't.
We're the only one we have today, So yes, so welcome,
come on in. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
you why went on. But yes, t RL, Spring and

(07:24):
Spring by all this sudden, there's a lot just and
I just I just want to give it this little
it's due to say thank you for MTV for enriching
my life because it was literally all the British, the
British second British invasion. I was a Durani we started,
so it's we would have Lobbius I would have learned
of if it had been from g They made videos.

(07:46):
It brought back so many careers. It just it was
such a it's like Frank said, just such a we
can't even encapsulate it here on the show.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Let's try. Let's try.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
For the next three hours, we're gonna talk about AMPTV.
Fuck your hostital No, we're gonna talk to your hospital
leading into that. Before we start, I gotta tell you
my emmy story, you guys, because I know you guys
are wondering what happened to James Lot Junior. If you
have not heard already, Number one Tammy Govao was just
here and dropped off the cameras with all the footage.

(08:23):
James Lott Junior got a phone call from his doctor
Thursday night, the night before the Emmys. James, you have
to quarantine now. You are contagious. Now some of you
know I have cancer, So you know I have some

(08:46):
diabetes issues. Yes, what James got at age fifty six
years old? No chicken pox?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
What first time?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yep? James Odd Junior had chicken pox. So when I
was sick last week, that's what I had. But I
got the kind without the rash. So I was contagious
this week and I needed to quarantine. Yes, chippox kids,

(09:26):
now I bring your chats. Explain a little something. Am
I go into the weeds of this. When I was
a child, I was a poor black child. When I
was a child, I got the vaccinations. At age thirty,
I got mumps for first time, and I was like,

(09:49):
what the fuck? That's what I said. The doctor told me.
If you got vaccinated between nineteen eighties, nineteen sixty eight
and nineteen seventy five, they're learning the vaccines weren't as
lifelong and strong as they thought they were. That's darting
time I got vaccinated. I started school in nineteen seventy three,

(10:11):
so I had no childhood diseases, never got means of
none of the stuff. I got it as an adult.
So cut to age fifty six, twenty six years later,
I got yes, ticken pox, but I wasn't sick anymore.

(10:32):
I felt fine, I'm going to the Emmys. I waited
two years. After all yes, we've asked, after all this drama,
I'd say, it would take my dead and mangled body
to keep you from the Emmys. Well, because these I
was contagious. So it was like, around eight o'clock at night,
what we're going to do? So I thought it was

(10:55):
too late to call you, Frank for the next day.
Amanda's too far away so I can't get her. Candace
calls me and says, I'm in town for the Emmys.
I'm just gonna go to it. I said, Candace, do
you want to step up and be an Emmy Emmy
interviewer with Tammy Govan? And she says, every presidents set

(11:19):
me up. McK Floyd. You get comment of the day.
That wins very much. They did set me up, no,
so Cannas. I made her dreams come true. She cried
and the whole thing because she had there no before.
So that's that's a little piece of consolation. But she said,

(11:40):
I'll do it. I said, Tammy, you'll be in charge
to come to my house tonight because they start in
the morning. The whole thing. They had to be there
like eleven thirty. So I said, it was just two.
It was two. They had no camera. I have a camera.
Tammy lives where Frank lives, about thirty miles away from me.
So Tammy and her man down Englehood through the door.

(12:03):
I had to give them. I sprayed everything down, gave
them everything. They tested it out that night and in
that morning I had answer a few questions for them,
and then they went to the Emmys and they did
the Emmys. So shout out to Candace mac and Tammy
Govea for holding it down for JLJ media. Frank, what

(12:24):
is your first reactions all.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
That that's uh bunkers, But it's uh, it's a it's
a great yet unfortunate story. I mean, if it's truly
then you needed to be something super out of the
blue to be able to take you out from going
to the Emmys. Uh getting chicken pox. Whow that's man,

(12:54):
not what you expect at all.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Nope, it would be so soppy of Candy made the
call to get the job very much on Nina Plan.
You guys are hilarious. So I was devastated and salty
and there were some cuss words and tears and they
said hissing him, spitting and shake my fist to the

(13:19):
to the man above. But as I'm I'm a I'm
a doer and a fixer, I'm like, I gotta figure
it out. Jail j media is still invited and Hams
on the list. So shout out to just girl named
Aaron from smith House. I texted her, I mean I
messed her that night and she was on it. It

(13:40):
was like ten o'clock at night and I'm like, can
you change the Candace mag And They're like, okay, they did,
and here's a ship show. But the Emmy stuff I'll
talk about for sure on my show Tuesday, me Walker Ragsdale,
Candace Mac and Jerry Waggley talking about all the Emmy
stuff on that show too Tuesday at five pm s

(14:01):
Ppacific eight Eastern. You know it will be real and crazy.
Yeah so, but we got we got to mention a
couple of things because this is part of the week.
We have some winners, and I do want to mention them.
But thank you anybody. I'm not I don't feel sick.

(14:23):
I know now I'm not contagious anymore. Apparently I'm coming
out of contagious stage.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh So, had the Emmys been this Friday, you would
have been set.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Pct oh yeah, perfect, Or if the Emmies had been
in June when they were supposed to have been Yeah,
so yeah, so yeah, I'm salting everything, all thing, the
whole the all thing. Oh yea, it's all crazy, but
I'm going well.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
But they also had to save the money up so
they could put on a really good show.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Again. We'll talk about that. I will talk about that
on the other show, because I got a lot to
say about this tired ass show they put on. The winners, folks,
and I want I.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Want Frank's winners. We got.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I want Frank's takes on them. Aley Mills one again, I.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Don't understand that one at all. I mean, no shade
against her. She's doing what you know, she was brought
into say those lines that were written. But boy, that
was such a a stinker of a storyline.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I didn't pick her. I did not pick her as
a winner. So I was like, huh, here's one that
I didn't pick either, Jonathan Jackson.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
That was the craziest one for me, because boy, I mean,
I guess you'd get away because it's just one episode
you're submitting, right, so you know, I I'm sure given
his supapa legacy and during his very boring, very underused

(16:07):
and underserved run, I am sure there was one episode
where he really gonna you know, he gets a chance
to really show his chops. Maybe it's when he's imagining
Elizabeth in the when he's in the prison cell and
all that. I don't know whatever it was, but yeah,
I'm sure out of all that you could carve one
episode that had a chance to let him shine a

(16:31):
bit but still amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well again and again he was good.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I get no fault of his own. He wasn't given anything.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
He wasn't given anything. So the episode he turned in
was him not being able to help loulu It was good,
but Quin's I'm with you, Sumig. Gregory Harrison, Yes, I think,
but I agree. I think I was in another show.
We all agree, Shmi. Gregory Harrison his hands down. I
thin't say about him. Yeah, I guess how true. Yeah,

(17:04):
it was the whole thing. And Tas is pretty good
too in his scenes, so if he got it, would's sad.
I would have been upset either. If he got it,
I'd be like, okay, at least something different. But I
really do think Gregor Hershian was robbed. So that's just
that's just me on that one. But you know, that's

(17:24):
how it goes. Big Winner obviously best show. People were
cracking on that online I saw, but it is to me,
I watch all the shows. It is one of the
better shows out there. I'm sorry, kids, uh No, it's not.
Y r Ain't Bold it is but lead Access Nancy

(17:47):
Lee Grond I'm gonna make that I'm making. I make
this statement, folks, because I made this statement and Santra,
you and you were in the other chat I was in.
I make this statement. People bring up the fact that
she's very political. She is that's how she I mean,
that's just that's who she is. That's what she does.
If she hadn't said something, I would be shocked, and

(18:10):
they just expected. But I don't understand all the pearl
clutching because what she said was so benign. It was
just like, stand up for democracy. That's all. Yes, you know,
I know those of you know she leans left, she's
that's not a secret, but that's kind of just that's

(18:30):
the first saying. I was actually because I was waiting
for to saying something more, like I was waiting for more.
To me, that was fine. It wasn't that. It wasn't
that bad. It's her thirty seconds, do whatever fuck she
wants with it, right, and seriously, everybody people say this
all time, and the black Barbie has some stuff about
black stuff. I just feel like, why not. It's like,
she says something that to me is true whether you're

(18:52):
on the left, right or center. We don't do politics
on this show, but left, right or center, just you
know what you believe in, fight for its That's what
democracy all about. It's about us being able to not
like what she says and like what she says. I mean,
it's either way. To me, It's like that's the whole
point of I would I'm never gonna censer myself on
this show or this channel I had. We had a
negative gay, anti gay comment on one of my shows

(19:15):
the other day, and I spoke out on it because,
in case you forgot JILJ, media is running on by
a gay black man. If you don't like that and
you forget all about that, go somewhere else. I don't.
Frank didn't know, he had no idea. So now I'm gay, Frank,
I'm also black, And it was kind of crazy. Whoa, whoa, Yeah,

(19:37):
he's gone. He's gone, and it's Frank's democratic choice to lead.
That's democracy. So anyway, so I've been hearing like pro
clutching about that. It's like, I don't get it, Like
she didn't even do anything that bad. She speaks more
on her on her page than that. I thought she

(19:58):
was actually very restrained. They're all, I hope you space,
we can survive this revelation that number two comment today
shot chuse out. Let's be funny. We're gonna, we're gonna
get through it. We're gonna we're gonna try to work
through it me and we're gonna try to work through this.
It's what he hates more the gay or the black part.
I'm not sure, socker, but it's like, I know that's

(20:19):
why when people when people to come up to my page,
I'm like, but you know who I am. Why would
you even do that? I don't understand, you know, right, Nancy? Yeah,
thank you make Nancy says like this every nayswer who
is I'm just saying she deserved her win number one?
Yeah about but Sam, she could pick any number right

(20:42):
of that, I mean before and after.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, that's I mean, she had a lot to work
with this this year for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mm hmm, I mean, yeah, she was. It was good.
So that's my two cents. You have a right not
to like Nancy. You're right to like, or you're right
to either. And that's the beauty of this whole thing
we do. We do reaction videos, and I would hate
for someone to say to me and Frank, you can't
say what you want to say reaction video. I hate that.

(21:13):
I hate that. You know, you're right to the channel.
You know, I don't want to listen to Frank or
James about shit. I'll go somewhere else. You're right to
that too, true, That's I mean, that's that's that's a
great thing. About this because people really be careful. There's
this there's stuff going on right now behind our scene,
behind our backs that are kind of happening. So I
ask myself box for that. But Nancy, to me deserved it.

(21:35):
G h, best show, deserved it. I don't care. Everybody says,
out of all the shows right now, it is one
of the better ones. So I'll take it. And Gold
Circle Award people, I just went your shout out to
my friend James Reynolds. He is the longest running, longest
running black actor on television play in the same character.

(22:02):
Now I see, I see a second. He is first.
He's been playing a car Abraham Carrver since nineteen eighty one,
before Frank was born. Yeah, man, he's the longest way,
he said, he's the longest running, folks, So let's just

(22:22):
give him a SI. I love. I'm really good friends
with him and his wife Lisa. They're great people. Have
a great theater here in in Pasadena Center Theater. You
gonna tak him out. Also, we gonna shout out to
Jane Elliott, who's a Gold Circle Award and she had
a nice little long hair. She was love it and
so go shou out to her, and I shout out

(22:43):
to my friend Paul Telfer, who won Lead Actor on
Daysoel Lives. I've known him ten years. He's one of
the loveliest people out there. I mean, he's I think
playing is him playing Xander. He's come a long way.
He is so good. I'm so happy for him. I
was really cheering for him when he won. I just

(23:03):
love Paul Telford so much, so I'm very happy for him.
You know, I watch Days anywhere. I was like, who
these people on Days? I'm are, But I do love him,
and so he was out there and everything. So anyway,
I guess, so shout to all those winners and what's
going on again. My show on Tuesday will go into

(23:24):
real painful detail of how he felt about the whole
Samain Good.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I'm guessing they know.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
They know Walker Walker. Yes, they did show in the
montage Jane with Scott Clifton when he played uh when
he played that was a nice little surprise when he
played what's his name? I'm making his name? Oh ye? Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
So anyway, so have to deal with that. So I
wanna get I just wanna get them. Shout out of
those strugs. Great stuff. But yeah, so some nice stuff
and some beautiful people out The beautiful gowns and things
are out there, so get some for them. A lot
of my friends were there. Michelle Stafford look beautiful, Lincy
Gofie looked beautiful, she was sell Stafn had the one
funny moment with with them. I did like the moment
with her and and and my other buddy, uh Ross Matthews.

(24:21):
That was kind of funny that I'm open Lee Gray
kind of like that. That's kind of cute. That was cute.
So anyway, so we want that. Okay, where shall we begin?
I mean, seriously, this week you guys it, I mean, Frank,
there's something I'm like? Should I start with the Jostlys?

(24:42):
I started with a Jason told I told on Joscelybs.
I didn't expect that really quick. So we talked about
it's about Ronnie becoming friends with Geo? Where did that
come from? Kind of like that was an interesting exchange.
What's going on with with home Girl? Was his names?

(25:02):
All of a sudden? Grit? Why is thatking so weird
around Nathan? What's that about? And I mean there's just
Wish and Michael's are we a Michael's dark period and
that we been going on. Now.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's it's tough because, I mean, I feel like they
are definitely keeping a piece out of Michael's story about
what he saw, that he is keeping close to the
vest that he's not revealing, and because of that, when
you see him acting the way he is, You're just like,
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But I just feel there's another piece we don't know yet,
even like.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
M a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I mean, they've really just made him come off as
very cold. I mean, and we already talked about it
last week where he just he mean he gave that
really long lingering uh scene eating look outside Elizabeth's doorstep.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I yes, and Sidwell, oh I loved it. I'm like, wow,
MS want that right now. That's some of that. That's
the Crabs, A quick couple of scenes, quick episode. We
had seen it, he just said, we had seen him
in a while. And when he shows up and Ju
thinks he got the upper hand and he thinks Sida
was like hold off for a second.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I loved that. He was like, have several seats, my man, please.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Have a seat. Oh my god. It was so good.
So Sidwell because we almost forget there's a there was
a person killed before that we have we have like
this judge has been killed. It's an open case, like
it's not closed. And so to kind of reference that
and how he's like, oh no, no, you're set up
for all that. I mean, not me. I mean, and

(26:51):
I just loved how Drew was. His face was cracking,
just cracked, was cracking. And he's knocked down a peg,
knocked out a pig that I was, oh, thank you said, well,
He's like, get out, but one one more thing. Oh
my god, I mean, colorade is so good. But he
was just like, okay, you got my house. Okay, I

(27:14):
love it.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh and you will never summon me again.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh yeah, Oh what you're not gonna do is that's
what you're talking. And and he was a speechless you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It was like, yeah, it was great because I mean,
Drew thinks he can just railroad anybody. And when he
I mean, and I said, well playing slow playing it
coming off as like the very affable, nice guy. But
you know it's like no, no, no, I don't need
to have any pretense with you. Here's my real deal, dude.

(27:48):
I own you. That's it and the story and.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
A story, and I think so people were waiting for
some kind of come up and for Drew. He got
knocked off a couple this week twice. How I got
knocked off a little bit because the Willow thing too,
will being arrested throwing him off. Yeah, He's like, wait
a minute, not her. That doesn't last one he wants arrested.
He's like, not her, and so that's throwing him off too.

(28:14):
But yeah, Sambuel Simbil. It was like when I say jump,
you say how hot? That's right. It wasn't eating here.
He was like okay. But the way he did it
just he was so just like what's going on, Drew,
Like what's going on? High? What's going on? And then
just like the plan came out and you trying to
run over him and just like, no, that's not gonna happen,
and here's why, and Sitwell laid it out for him

(28:36):
and was just like, but I didn't. And at his time,
you actually is innocent. That's why I love it, because
he tasted his own medicine. But that wasn't me. I had.
There's no receipts. I didn't. He goes, oh, yeah, there is,
and it's it's because of you, because it was you
didn't and he was like, oh my god. He just
he realized his his goose was cooked. He's great, he's great.

(29:00):
Like we needed that, we need that scene. I think
we need that scene. Just just give to you because
he's just like whatever. And then having Willow and Nina,
that whole setup was really good too, with with them
say you're not gonna likes arrested. Cut to you Sonny
running the Carly ran to Carly, Yes, out of here.
He was taking that. Of course, that's what he wanted

(29:20):
to say in real life, get the fuck out of here.
She's like the jets A ready okay, and she's like
wad to go down? And then then there's Dante and
then he walks in. They're red. I mean, it was
so it was so good. It was so good. They're ready,
We're ready, okay, we're gonna get Carly. And it's like

(29:42):
Nina reeves like well, I was like we're like what
and Ever was like what as she's having lunch with
her brother Jay. But I just loved that. I was
like we all thought, I mean, it's goodness is good
we all thought gonna be over there and nope, over here.
And Nina was like, oh, they're come to get call anybody.
Anybody thought they're all just on topic or whatever. No, big.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Carly was Nina was just licking her chops.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, they got to get her, get her, No, bitch,
it's you and thing too was.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I mean, Anna and Dante arresting her right in front
of the kids. I was like, you couldn't ask her
just to step outside the room, Like, come on, Dud's like,
you know, uh, realistically, come on, you're not going to
be that heartless.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I mean, it's one thing in a.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
World where we're operating with a real police force and
real people that they don't know. But g H is
such an insular town where everybody knows each other. You're
gonna have a humanity at that moment. You're going to
ask her to step right outside. It doesn't affect anything
of your plan. It can still because you want to
execute her at the same time. You just ask her
to step out of the room for a second to
talk and then arrest her. Then oh that was just man.

(31:00):
But Michael is sitting there like, yeah, he gets He
doesn't even try to offer up like a like a
like please can you handle this outside? Doesn't even try
to throw up by like it's just a just even
a feigned bit of defense for Willow. No, which which

(31:21):
That's the thing that's kind of bugging me about Michael
is that he is so cold, Like if he really
wants to sell this, he should be showing some compassion
and some of the things to make people be like,
oh whoa jeez. Michael was even surprised that this was happening,
but no, no, he is so he's just gone so cold.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, you see afterwards somethings like okay, Michael, did you
do it? And Michael said he like, what are you
talking about? I don't know what's going on with you?
And and Sonny ain't buying it. Ain't buying it either,
ain't nothing buying it. They're like mm hmm okay.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
They're sitting there at the court main kitchenette, the little
dining bok uh, and Diana is going like, all right, Carly,
have you been to Elizabeth? Michael?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Have you been? That was funny.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Nobody's gonna believe either of you, I know.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
She's like, come on, like, okay, that's Diane's so funny.
Oh side note, kids, this week's chase, Dirty Deeds was
brought to you by Diane's Hair. So I've been talking
to you about her hair online. What do I do
to my girl? So I did a whole video where

(32:40):
I show you her response to her hair and she
says it's not a wig and she says she likes
her hair. It's growing, she's growing it out.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I did like a fun apology and I also talked
about her upcoming cap ratio. So I did promote that
to you. So it's side now. It's out there right now.
Thanks everybody for watching or listening to it. Because kind
of I didn I did a lot of humor. We
love Carolyn Henderson, that's our girl, we love her by
stars kind of faked. She was like, it's not a
wig and she's pull on her hair and she's there

(33:13):
and I like it. Okay, you like it. I love
it all right, she liked it, then we're gonna love it.
So that's a fun little thing I did this week.
You That epersident's out now.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
J Deeds.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Carolyn Hennessy's air the title of the episode, and I.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Feel like this episode, I mean, well, not that we
already knew that, but I mean, I feel like you
really can conclusively. I think you rule out Carly as
a suspect only because we see Elizabeth go upstairs to
talk to the plumber, and that's where the guns found,
just upstairs and Will's room, So Carly never had an
opportunity to go upstairs while it's up there. So I
mean it comes down to to Michael maybe unless it's

(33:55):
you know, Willow having some kind of disassociated So I.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Think I see Okay. So folks last week reacted to
our video suggesting it was Willow or Scout, and on
another show they made the kid the shoot her.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, make a scout.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm down, So I said, so people are like, well now,
but then somebody actually said, James, you're right, You're actually right.
I looked back at the tape. We don't know who
was over him. They could We think it's a woman.
We don't know what heights or we have no idea.
We have no idea. You stand run over somebody that
you don't know. I mean that's we have no idea.
And with Willow, why I think it could be Willow

(34:36):
is because she's having problems. I think Michael at first
because she was terrorizing Daisy. He really thinks something's wrong
with her what he thinks of it, But he's getting
a little too cold. But I think I think he
thinks something's wrong with her also, which I think is
legitimate on some level. It's totally legitimate, like somethings off
with her. It has to come out at some point.

(34:58):
But I agree with you, it's not Carl obviously wasn't sunny.
It was that karly. But see, if we were forgetting,
we still got Curtis and Porscha on the other side
over here, who were designed to stay married. You know,
he told Trina, oh right, because shit happened on off camera.
But where you get there? Right? What I got Ki

(35:21):
is off contract?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know. Uh, I'm not surprised. I mean, there's really
just nowhere to go with that character, So I mean,
who knows. I mean, it's a shame that he was given.
I mean, hey, it's great anybody can get a like
a guaranteed contract on the show. Applause to them. But

(35:48):
I think anybody that gets that would hope that, oh wow,
that means I'm going to be doing some really fun
and exciting stuff. And it just feels like the show
just never had an idea to do and it's it's
it's it's bummer. It happens, And I mean it happened
with Lucky and Jonathan Jackson. He came back and he
had a dud of a storyline. Uh, you know, sometimes

(36:09):
the show just misfires on a character.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well, other thing, now the other us say, I mean
the other thing.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
The other bit we learned is that as Kay speaking
of Kai and Trina as they're going through at Drew's
place replaying it, that they heard scouts ring tone, which
one I liked, like, well, I mean, I guess Kai
would know it like that, Trina would know that it
was but then it was Scout, So I mean it

(36:40):
being her and that's her phone.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'm telling you, guys, Crystal Greens Scout. Michelle's like, I
stand by, it's Elizabeth. But I'm still saying we're forgetting
it's Courts and Porsa out there.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like they would have
because of the because of the black male angle. I
you know, for sure they would have at least checked
the safe and so before they left. I would I
would have felt like they would have gone for the
safe because they would have tried to find the black
mail with her, because why should him and not try
to find it. And if they looked for it, they

(37:25):
would have saw the safe as open and they could
have just taken it.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
But it was Porsa who acts irrationally because like you
said before, I agree with you. Curs the cop, Yeah,
killed him, like if just shooting the back twice? That nothing.
But I think portays she's she's the irrational one. He's
trying to for her. You think she did it, you know,

(37:50):
she's like, are you saying because I'm getting out bied
for you? No, man, she started to do it for you.
Probably it wasn't Isaiah. There's a there's a point. I
think there's a point where it's it's there that she
could have. I can't remember all the details things to fly,
but there's like there's a point that she could.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Have She went for a late night booty call with Isaiah.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, I think it was later she got with him,
But he was a point where there's a little in
between where she was not accounted for her I meane
they asked her. I can't remember. I was saying, Michael's
too obvious. You do. It's not Carling. I think Willow
is possible. Maybe that's too obvious. Raise somebody else. So

(38:33):
I'm saying there's other suspects there because Nina's just being
charged from instructure or whatever. She's just being charged whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So and Nana is the worst, like she can't get
it out of her own way like that. She can't.
She's unable to hear any reason or when somebody gives
her a rational reason, why, hey, drop your fake alibi.
Everybody knows it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna
stick with it.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
That doesn't it's like, come on, girl, Like he's like,
I've been gone for seven years. Come on, girl, like,
just do this. We can look worse. But even with that, so,
even with that, we knew this was gonna ask you
back on the on the force. We knew that was
gonna happen. But they're right, we don't know where you
Where have you been every year? I mean, you know,

(39:25):
if you pass the test and all that stuff, it's
kind of like, what have you been doing? And he said,
and who youve been doing it with? Now, folks do
not say his name on this channel. Another show is
trying their best to bring him back to life. Yes,

(39:46):
he's at the Emmys with his girlfriend lore Right. We
do not want him back on the show. We don't
need him. We got two face off kids. We don't
need him. His name is not just his name is
not it's not a seed is not a name. So
we don't need him for you. Ving.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Now, just a question, if it is that character brought
back in the Guys of Nathan, does that make it
more palatable at least a little paletable.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
No, I want the character, none of that. But I
am curious, really, I'm curious. I'm curious about writs story
and his story. I mean, because it's no coincidence they're
back together. Yeah, and it's man.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
This again the show is it's frustrating for when you
get a week where Jason finally tells Carly about Josh,
you're like, yes, this is what happens, Like you know
you you see my expectations. Yeah, I did not expect
you to reveal this that suit, and I loved it.
It was great to be genuinely surprised. That was my
favorite moment of the whole week when he tells her.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Whoa we're actually saying I did not expect that.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh I loved it, and so it's like, g h,
can you can surprise us and keep the story well
going in a way that I that I loved? And
then with this this brit and Nathan thing, there's just
so much coyness around all of it that it's they're
running that risk and just like, man, if you don't
start act you know, either revealing stuff to the audience

(41:27):
or you know, or having the characters reveal stuff to
each other, it's you're gonna just like lose this great
setup you guys have created.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
That's the thing, because now you got Anna joined in
because you know, I didn't mind her little thing was
just talking to.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Was it.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
About the whole vass On? That is a lot half
her adult life she's had to deal with him. Yeah,
craziness and how clever he is. And now that's when
we've yield by Jack Brennan that there's this there's this
final thing of Faison Faison and that Valentine bringing him in.

(42:10):
But here's to think kids, Ah, how you bring on
James Madge Steward. I'm happy, I'm sorry, I just he
just it's come across aside for a second because this
happened this week two, but a couple of my favorite
bums for this week where he just shows James Magie
Stewart can go from like an asshole to like a puddle.

(42:33):
And it's in the same scene. It's like he's scene
with Lulu. They both back and forth. But then it
got he got really clo It's like, because he loved
the one thing that show did very well. He loves Charlotte.
You say whatever you want you about him. He loves
Charlotte and even Lulu knows that. And it was it
seems what her softened her a bit to me, like's

(42:58):
not being annoying, she's being protected, should be protective, and
she's kind of like, Okay, what's going on here? And
then when him and Sean I got together, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, oh uh. The only thing, Uh, it's just I
don't know any prison that uh puts the name of
itself inside its own.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's all like interrogation, sledsh meeting rooms, five hour, there
you go. And it was in spray letter glory. It
was a spray paint glory.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
It was guys, we gotta let people know where we're at. Yuh.
It was so awful.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
But again I just again, just with him, he just
he he elevates every scene and so even him and Jack,
it's like it's just every scene that Jason A. Stewart
is in just elevates it. And I just it's it's
I want more of him and less of you other people.
Do you hear please? I mean he's like, he's like

(44:09):
a Jane Elliott. He's somebody can pop down anywhere and
he and and it works.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
My only hope is that this whole, this whole storyline
created such a reason that Valentine could get his freedom.
I'd be all for it, get get a clean slate,
and get returned to poor Charles.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Heck, yes, I agree. But see now the storyline stretches,
and not like an good umbrella story, but so it
stretches to the Jason been saying and Chatty love big
line Jason and Carly. So it's you know, first she
finds out last week when we were before that, vah whatever.
But I'm glad that Jason just came in was and
was like, here's deal. I don't like that. I don't

(44:53):
lie to you. And where she goes what you've known? Does?
She asked me not to tell you that her Carly
any mother that hurt her so much.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
What I liked about that is that he was willing
to not say anything as long as Carly was not
the fact that she kind of said it like vond
As the revelation, and that Justin was hurt by that,
Like Jason couldn't stand party to like that. Lie was like,
that's not that's not the real story. And so I

(45:26):
told him that.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
He was like, what, how'd you find it? Was like
he was kind of perplexed by that too, Like she
told you that I was telling me the whole thing
that He's like, that's what it's like. No, bitch, I
gotta tell you this. I gotta teake the real story
that that's that's just not it U. Plus he's like Jack,
of course, and Jack's right, he's what he's saying, and
he loves Chil's his goddaughter. And I think one thing

(45:47):
about Carly was so funny. She was immediately Carly again,
I could get out of this. He's like waiting, calm down.
And he had explained to her kind of situation, which
she understood. She didn't like it. And then when her
and Joscelyn were together. Oh, there's much subtext in there, and.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I thought that was a great way of Carly trying
to understand Jocelyn and her choices without saying stuff, and
the way that they both played that it was great.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yes, congratulations to ten years of Eave McCoy, so I said,
I sent her message the other day and she selebrated
ten years as Jocelyn man, we're going to the whole time.
So she really stepped up to that scene because first
Carly with Jason is automatic mother moge got get her

(46:40):
out of here, screw this noise. I've turned down the roof.
Jason calms her down, so then she was like a
soft mother with Jocelyn scenes, it was like, you haven't
the same since dex dot he brought up decks. You
know you you must have been really just on you know,
you must been really feeling bad to the double entendre

(47:02):
words and it's kind of like saying things but not
saying it on Carly's parts and just well, we're fine,
we're great. What are you talking about? No, she's lying too.
It was a fair it's good. I thought that was good.
I thought that was really really good.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And also I am hoping that at least that while
Carly can't be hurt that she doesn't know that Justin
never told her this truth, she understands why just cannot
tell her of the truth. Yes, that mean you have
to love it. You can still be angry about it,
you can still be disappointed, but you have to least understand, like,

(47:40):
all right, there's I know why she's lying to me.
And I love the fact if they want to sit
in this for a little bit, that's okay because I
just it's nice that Carly knows, and that'll be curious
to see. I mean, we didn't really see like what's
gonna happen with Jack?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
That's how last week kind of towards the end that's on,
I'm like, uh.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I don't understand. Interesting And Bubba, why are you doing
this yourself?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Carly?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Where she throws the last spiles of roses, like you
have you have to clean that up, you know, like
it's like there's nobody else here, Like why did you
just make it this best for yourself? You're already mad?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
And then like Jason was like, what are you doing girl?
And so this so you have this stuff going on
and still the umbrella Umbrella sloping up, so we still
have this going on, which leads into the Brit stuff.
So you got Jason and Riches being addicted to Jason,

(48:39):
which is getting my nerves. Now now it's all now,
it's all you need to get past that, and her
being kind of a dick to Carly and Johnson. John's like,
I appreciate you can save my life and everything however
common and ask her I want I want a hotel room.
And I was like, they're not gonna have a girl,

(49:01):
but that's what's gonna happen. But just that Britch just
being this brat, you know, I did chuckle for her
and Lucas and Von going to just like to umbrella.
Von's back going to Britt. Didn't expect that either. I
was like, oh, where that come from? That's like, do

(49:23):
I see a little chemistry myself in there? I'm like,
am I seeing something? But when Lucas walked over, Oh
my god, and her questioning Brad my Brad, and I
was like, finally we had bring bring that up. And
then her walking over to Marco, Oh my god, that
was so funny. Oh drugs, which he's holding secret too.

(49:47):
When he when she walked away. It's possible high standards,
you know, like secrets, and Mom was just like, yes,
I mean it's that secret that can break them up.
But you who knows because Lucas a little high on
his horse a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yes, not everybody. There's nobody that's out there that is
gonna be able to hit your impossible standards. You gotta
be able to come down a little bit, Lucas.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yes, especially where you come from Hello, little to little
to you whatever. But I did like that side note.
I did like that Ava and Marco skill long because
of Lucas.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yes, which is nice. I mean that's not sing even
when we haven't seen the scene. It's just nice to
know that that is existing off camera.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I agree. But yeah, I like that. Josh for Britt
in her place, she did.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, you know, It's just I don't it would be
one thing like Britain is she's created the circumstance. She
made the choice to fick her own death. You know,
she got involved with all this Fifth Poppy stuff and
everything that happened out of that. So you know you're
coming back to Port Charles trying to reclaim your life.
It's not going to be that easy. You've heard a
lot of people. Uh, and also just trying to bring

(51:02):
yourself back from the dead legally has its own hurdles
to go through. So her to be throwing that out
to everybody's like, oh, we didn't do any of this,
Jocelyn didn't do anything. You made the choice of savor
and Jocelyn's appreciative, but that doesn't mean you can just
hold that over her forever.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And Jack is holding over and threatened her and Rett,
so have that going on.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
The Jack and anathing was interesting because just the way
it ends, where it's like, you know, you're being too confident,
over confident about the stager for something, and it's going
to come back and bite you. This would somebody ends
up dead. And so I'm curious to see what happens
with Jack Brennan if that is a little little hint
that maybe maybe Jack's foreshadowing right, Yeah, Jack might not

(51:50):
make it through this whole thing. Is that up?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
He says something like, Okang, we know, saysar something else.
You be a little confident. I get it. Yeah, Von
threatened Brent, Jack bretton threat bit Britt. Josh threatened Brett.
She just get it. However, though a little side umbrella,

(52:15):
a little small umbrella. We had a little family get together.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah, I mean, I'm taking a stealthie. We got it.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
And how Britt and her mother, I mean, just I
love she's just so beat to Brit. I love it.
But they got over a little bit over just for
for the sake of you know, for Rocco. You know
uncle Nathan, I were you here and he was raised
by I always ask the questions, but said Charlotte, she

(52:52):
can't be trusted Tel Rocco.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, I mean he doesn't mention that about Nathan though,
and he knows we know he uh he No, he doesn't.
But Jack tells me that Nathan's alive. I don't know
if like Dalanty knows that Nathan's alive going into that
conversation with with uh uh his daughter or not. And
it's Jack coming in for the first time that throws
him off.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
People are upset that Jason told Carlely because he chose
to call her Britt again. Here's my answer to all
of you people.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I mean, that's the trust. Britt has a truth see her, Dennie.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Since we were watching Friends seventy six, here's the deal
to me, Jason has been trying to be there for Brits.
He helped her a lot, He got her set up.
He's been on her side despite Britt's machinations to be

(53:52):
like getting on the nerves. Him and Carly have been
best friends for a thousand years. To me, it's two
separate things. And again, he didn't really tell on Britt
to Carli ornything. He just said. He talked about Jocelyn.
That's a whole separate. The says that's her daughter, yeah,

(54:14):
and that's his god daughter. That's a whole. That's not
even about choosing Carly or Britt. To me, it's choosing
this child that's an adult that they love. Over everything
over in w s B. Because he wants to, because
he wants to protect Britt. Still, he's a protector. He's
still a protector and to protect Carly and to protect Jocelyn.
He loves all three of while he loves two. But

(54:36):
he has he has feelings for He has feelings for
a Brett. Britt is holding. It's not letting him be in.
Ritt has the wall up. Jason's ready to go. He was,
he was ready to go in.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
He's as her several times like you know, and here
he's tell me what I can do to help you.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Right, So it's the writing. Folks can get mad at
the right. You can be mad at writing. They're not writing.
Britt and Jason together, they're writing. They're writing it as
she's angry at him still for whatever reason, she's bitter
about everybody, and so he's not with Carly, he's just
like as his friend. So I know. So I just say,

(55:19):
I think people are looking to you. You gotta look
at look at look at a different angle. And I
think that's something that's happening with Britt. He would tell
her when he'ld say the same thing, he would tell her.
That's just how Jason is. Jason's one of those guys
who tells the truth, shames the devil, you can't help it.
That's that's how he is. That's how he's Bill, when

(55:41):
Sam was alive, and Elizabeth. He's the same with all
of them. You were just you know, I ain't to
think that the the people just always feel he picks
Carly first for everything, and many scenes have been written
that way over the years. Yes, but I think with this,
I think at this case, it was more of I
gotta tell call you about her daughter. I don't do

(56:04):
a brand. I don't do a bread. Yeah really, and
it's like I don't, I don't, I don't know I
do with her. So that's just that's just that's how
I look. That's how I looking. Anyone people watching, Okay,
that's I'm looking at him.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So five, you know, five people heard about it's like, oh,
Jame's about to go off on this Jason Carly thing.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I get in anything people watching, But you know what
I mean, I just I just think it's I think
people get upset. I'm like, but let's let's look. Let's
look at the scenes. It's like, really look at them
and you might see it a little differently. Just like, Okay,
that's not exactly that. That's why I said, Well, Jason's
lied to Carl. I'm like, that's not that's not his
point either. He's just saying when something like this this big,
he would never lie to Carly. There was some mission.

(56:45):
He didn't really lie to his own mission because she
asked not to say anything. That's a different that's different, yes,
and so that's lying adjacent. But it's like he said,
josce Din' want me to tell you, and Carlily understands
that part because he wants her on Jason's care too.
She wants to want some protection for all you know.

(57:05):
So I saw, I think folse we get upset and saying,
well he lied, like well he did, he did not really, because.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
It's one thing to as Jess is saying, to respect
Jocelyn's request that he not say anything to to Carly,
thinking that it would be Jocelyn who would say something
at some point. But then the next thing he hears
about anything related to this is Carly saying, oh, Jocelyn
told me this story about Vaughan, which is Jason knows
is a lie. And so I feel like that's the

(57:34):
one where he's like, I can't. It's one thing for
Jocelyn to want me to not say anything until she's
ready to tell you, But if Justin's just gonna lie
to you, I mean I can't. I can't not say
anything to you at this point, right I know?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Well, I mean I don't. If you were going back
into going Jason Clyde to Carly when he pretended to
be a father of Sam's baby, he wasn't the one
to tell her truth about that Okay, so a long
time ago he lied her once or whatever, it's twice.
I'm just I'm saying that they've evolved since then. I mean,
there's a lot of story go back thirty forty years,
but this said they evolved have they usually tell each
other the truth most of their time. That's just that's

(58:10):
just the bottom line. And I'm saying the relation of
this story again, it was Jocelyn's line to her mother
while he's trying to keep the truth away from her.
He's like, wait when I adn't complicating shit. So now
he's like, let me tell her what's going on again?
It was on mission. It was it wasn't. I mean,
it wasn't. I don't know, it just wasn't. It wasn't.

(58:32):
It was a lie, but it wasn't a lie. I
think it's I think it's a fine line.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah. I mean again, like the thing I I I'm
hoping the show will kind of strike in this is
that being in the WUSB interne of itself is not
a bad thing. That could be a good thing, like
being in any sort of FBI CIA, but being under
Jack Brennan in the WSB not a great thing because
Jack Brennan is not very trustworthy, so I can understand,

(58:57):
Like that's the point, Like I you know, it's like,
you know, if you want to keep this WSB thing
as a as an ongoing thing, it can't always be
that like WSB is a horrible agency that's corrupt or
anything like that. It's like, no, there're gonna be people
corrupt within it. But like, like I'm sure of any
government agency, there are people that are using for their
own best, you know, their own self interesting as opposed

(59:18):
to what it's titled, what it's meant to be. So yeah, her,
I think her being an agency being a choice that
she makes good, bad or different, But it can be,
you know, a choice that's not inherently bad. It's just
that having Jack Brennan as your boss maybe not the
best person to be looking up for you.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Well, the thing is Carly knows that Jackson lying to her.
That's the folks, that's the bigger story. The bigger story is, now,
what is Carly going to do? It's not about Jason,
it's not about it's partially about Johnson, but it's not
about that. It's about her and Jack. What's gonna happen now?

(59:58):
Can she accept this, I asked her, can he accept this?
But can you not already know there's certain things you
can't talk about, but now involves your daughter, So ask
me the question. He walks into the kitchen with the
moss and she's looking at him. We don't know, we
know she's gonna do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
And because it was never it was never a clean
entry into some This is all came out of Jocelyn
shooting Cyrus and killing him. Uh that you know that
Jack used that opportunity to kind of steer jacks let
into the WSB.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So yeah, Uh, you know he's from Manson Carly and
he's recruiting Joss.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Uh. Yeah, I mean I I don't think he expected
He did not expect her to kill him. I mean,
she was put in a situation where she had to
defend herself, for sure, But that was definitely made it
much easier to get her to cooperate with what Jack
really wanted, which was there uh something that he can
put in PCU to be a WSP agent watching what was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Going on right now, Daisy Flower says, if she can
forgive Sonny for all his sins as the reason she
can not forgive Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, but I don't know if like Son's, Sunday's lives
weren't about their kids. Yes, I don't know. I mean
Sunday certainly had his own dealings with the mob that
would come back and affect the family, but it wasn't
like he was holding had knowingly put their children in
danger and not told Carly. Yeah, and I don't know. Again,

(01:01:39):
this goes back, and you know, we can't change it.
It just the show has not done enough to really
set up the Brennan and Carly's story to have me
really care a lot. I'll be interested to see what happens,
but it's never going to have the impact that it
would if these two had really had like some kind
of great on screen romance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeah, and folks, don't worry. It was just a funny mention.
When Cartie says I have to marry you'd answer that
question and marry me first. That's that's like a joke.
That like that, Like with Curtis and them, you can't
testify if you're married. They had done it almost before
they've gotten married for that. But you're just saying that
Carson is not getting back together, folks, I'm just I'm

(01:02:21):
letting you know that right now. It's like then I
came back together. They don't want to get back together
as the whole thing they are co parents of this
meat is huge blended family. That's all that is. I
think that's all it is. So but that was a
funny little thing. She said, you have to marry me,
you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
For that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
No, he asked her stuff. So, I mean Suddy got
Michael shot and set on fire, Morgan blown up. I
don't know, I just think, I mean they it's just
it's I can't compare Carly and Sonny with Carly and Jack.

(01:03:04):
It's just too different. It's two very different lengths of relationship, relationship, everything.
It's just it's just different. They have no kids together.
I don't know. I just I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
You would do better with Carly and Jack's versus Sonny.
Through all the various things. It's just yeah, like you
were saying, it's just there's not enough history with Brennet
and Carly to haven't matter much of anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
So just thinks for that before wants another storyline. So
that's the umbre. The umbrella is we have the WSB
is involved. We still know what happened at five poppies
Holmes taking a medication from a sea. See now, Santa
Barbara fans, you remember this, that character Mary got killed
by a giant sea falling on her. I remember that

(01:03:55):
episode very much, very classic se what was for cap Well,
Joe Ruth and then when the sea came and fell
and killed her. I'll never forget that episode was like
early eighties. I'll never forget that giant seed coming at her.
I will never forget that. It was such a great thing.
So the time you hear the word see anything about that, Yes,
Geo's that, Bobby's why they got job there. I don't know.

(01:04:16):
We only I don't even know why I got job there.
He got job there. I don't mind that. A lot
of kids worked there throughout about the time. So it's
about that's about me or I mean I need I
need this. I needed to see a I did not
need to see uh him coming with an application or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah like that. Did I really need that scene of
him doing you with Carle?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
No kin of likes g that she likes him. You
don't do that. I need nothing about that at all.
We need somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, plus I mean yeah, well, I mean I guess
we're Keviny dropping like the whole musical legacy of I mean,
I guess he's not going he's not going back to PCU,
he's not taking a scholarship. He's just you know, working.
We're gonna Bobby since the metro corpool is closed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yep, he's finding his way. But I said him and
Roddy connecting who's interested in and they're expecting that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah like that. Yeah, I don't know, you know, it's
uh fine. It's just like they're playing these scenes like
this is a character that's going to be around for
a good little while, and it's like we know she's not.
So it's like, man, why are we slow playing? Why

(01:05:31):
are we playing? Why are we writing scenes like this
when we know she's not gonna be gone much sooner.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I'm curious where she's leaving. I'm very curious. And
how's she gonna have to wrap the storyline up because
she says it's a tribute to Monica and wrapping her storiaup.
I'm very curious. She'ste and they have a tea party.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Where Tracy's already like I gotta ruin. I've got to
make her look crazy, ze terrible to be able to
get to get this to the courts faster.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Yes, Brook's gonna run at she likes Ronnie. She's thinking
make her happy, so keep the house on, trying to
sell it. Chase is cute with her. But Chase going
back to the umbrella story, it's not objective.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Oh boy, but boy yeah? Uh and for him then
firing back at Dante, like, you know what about you
like of the two, Like, yes, Dante's gonna has connection
to his brother, but of the two of them, man,
it has been Chase that it has been so far
gone with this lack of objectivity, and they have been

(01:06:44):
playing on end points that he's still in love with Brooklyn,
which I like that they did talk about that, uh,
because I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Wait, but you're bordering on, like are you talking a
back from Willow? He's claiming right now, No, no, no,
he loves Brooklyn and he's committed to her, and she's
beautiful and all. Well, see Frank, he's writing hard for Willow.
He's writing hard for her, and I go and I
love that. I just love that. Uh. DANTEO was like,

(01:07:19):
I've been dealing with this hip for a long time.
My father's who he is I would I know how
to do separation of the church and state. You don't
apparently anything for someone to rodeo. But I think Dante
is on Michael's side, of course, because you just say
anything you don't think he did it. I don't think
he's nervous that he could have done it, but he
doesn't think he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, but I mean it's like he does know, like
he doesn't really buy his alibi as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I like that. Yeah, I was like, okay, but he's
not the first time of a prostitute. But that's not
the point. This is so contrived. It's like he said,
Mike's even trying that hard, Like he's trying that hard.
So I just and so Dante's like, yeah, I don't
believe want that. So he shows up to talk to
Michael him, I'm glad you're here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not a cop right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Be a brother that badge off put on the table.
That's what he did. He said, I have your brother.
Man's talk to me like a brother. Talk to me,
Michael Wayne, have her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
You know what, I don't I would if it if
it does, let Michael just drop the because Dante does
know about the Willow stuff. I mean, I guess Sunny
does too. But I just need Michael just like to
have a little bit of just like humanness in a
conversation about all this. But we'll see maybe maybe it's
like that, maybe it won't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Be uh there we have you, brothers, because continue when
I've done yet. See, Yes, we'll get to the We'll
get to the coven in a second. It's my favorite storyline.
We'll get to them in a second. And how that
came to a conclusion. You have Willow and Drew, who
barges his way in. He's a congressman and one lawyer

(01:09:07):
who can't do both. As you try to tell them, Martin,
I love mar Martin, it's like I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I mean, it's ethic call. It's always I can't do
represent you both. Because Drew really is thrown off that
she got arrested and Drew that's nosign control. That's the
point he say he wanted. And now she is really
leaning and Drew. She don't want him, but she's leaning
on the industry. She's like, we gotta put it back

(01:09:34):
on the person who really did it, Mike. She's like
she wants to believe it's Michael. Now she wants to
so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, which uh and and I do like Martin with her,
just like we don't. This is not what we do
of that now. Now it's just trying to get you
bail right ahead. That's that's what this is all about.
Right now in the moment. We can worry about, you know,
other other potential perpetuation of this crime and putting blame
on somebody else later.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yes, now he just.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Needs you to say not guilty. That's all I need
you to say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Well, now Rick's back. We'll get there in a second.
But he can jump in. But I just thought it
was He's like, I can't really set you both. You're
the victim. He should be in here, but he used
to wait for him. I'm not the victim. I know
she didn't do it, so she did do it. He
don't even care. He wants her so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I think, Yeah, I mean, Drew, I just like I
was like, no, I did, like Martin stand after is
like then I then we don't need you, like well,
unfortunately you do. So I'll see you at the corn House,
but I'll show myself out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
You don't need me was like, yeah, okay, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Uh. So I'm I'm also trying to think about this too,
because if Michael, if Drew says like yeah at the
end where it's like, we'll ask him like, are you
are you ready to tell everybody now that you remember
it was Michael that shot you, uh, and we'll We'll
see what Drew decides, but I'll try. I think if
he decided to say that would wouldn't change anything. You know,

(01:11:08):
it's you know, I mean what I feel like, they
they need evidence, I'll say, to back it up. I
don't know if it's enough just for his for him
stand for they haven't fund any evidence that specifically ties
Michael to the crime scene. But I mean other than
the gun and Willow's lack of an alibi, right, but
there's no prints of the gun, So I know, it's

(01:11:32):
not like they have a lot on will compared to Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
They they mentioned it, they mentioned all that. Yeah, I
don't know. I have no idea, but I'm saying this
is a far reaching. It's like it's far reaching which
will lead into you the storyline of the week that
I loved. They're just hlarious and a good shocker. So
at first he did the whole thing before where you

(01:11:57):
see they what's her name, finds him unties and he
gets to throw it through whatever. Well, this week it
literally was chasing out back. And when he went down
and says about, oh my god, that's gonna see him,
I'm like, this, this is actually really happening. Laye's like,
we have one more hour, one more hour, right, what's done.
I was like, I kind of liked it. It was
it was kind of suspenseful. I was like, it's like,

(01:12:19):
I'm he goes, I want you inlets her into. I
laughed so hard he said that or anyone he said,
oh your name were into? That made me laugh when
he saw a ball gag and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I the outback was involved in this, just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Cently minor the minor out back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Oh come on now, I mean it makes sense. The
older reason why he would be in the back of
the house by by the by the basement doors, it
is because he you know, because of that dog, because
otherwise there's no reason for her to be, uh going
around the back of the house. He was already such
a contrived excuses, Oh, we're just here to drop some

(01:12:58):
stuff up from Molly and then outback ran around back
bothered me because he got to the point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yes, when he when he walked in well and the
ladies saw him, I thought, how do I get of this?
I was just it was like, this is hilarious. I
didn't supposed to happen like this. So just the dialogue
and and then did I spect us either there all

(01:13:30):
of a sudden Molly comes in. She's over. I'm like
what and she sees them and I'm like, oh my god,
Like I was on pins and needles. I forgot how
to go down to get this. And it was hilarious
the stories they came up with. And he was in Ayahuasca,
and I guess why he's the sevel. I mean like

(01:13:50):
because they're all screwed. And but before he walked out
to get the door, before he was about to leave,
I loved that code. It was like, you guys are
all crazy out of how you related to Molly and
it would turned her out. I laughed, So how we
said that? And when up the stairs get out of
it like you're like, no, don't go, And all of
a sudden there's Molly sad and I expect this either

(01:14:12):
at all?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yeah, And I mean now you loop curly or yeah,
you loop them into the whole. Do you tell me
the truth ever and make her look at her family
completely different? Or do you stay quiet. I'm curious to
see how long that plays out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Well, some of the great things that did happen. Now
I'm just like, good, let's let's move on. Anybody's made up. Yes,
the Alexis, Ava, Ava Christina. I liked it, Ava Alexis
and all of it. It's like everybody kind of like, Okay,

(01:14:51):
we see what we've done. It doesn't help anybody. Don't
anybody anywhere. It's horrible. We need to now, just like
move on. We're okay, We're fine. They're a great team together.
It's kind of fun I see them together. I like
there was like there were some genuine I thought there
was some genuine exchanges between them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I liked it, and especially Rick having to realize that
he could also break Molly's heart about all this, not
just for himself, but you know, for that the other
family members as well. But alexis saying after they're all gone,
it's like, no, Rick is going to come out for revenge.
He is. We know that he's so even though nobody's

(01:15:35):
going to go down for this, He's going to pay back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
If this keeps the three of them like Ava and
Alexis's orbit great, Christina who cares? But I like, I mean,
seeing Alexis and Ava play against each other great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Yes, I agree, Oh, I agree, and it's it's ricks.
Oh my god. But then he got rick look Lizabeth
cuckoo eyes. Oh, he is like, and well maybe she'll
go for this time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah. Oh when he says like, I'm not representing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Nina pro Boto, you tell me you truth, I mean
you may as well. Nothing else going on with Elizabeth
right now. So I so, I thought that was a
fun conclusion of that. The money is all back where
it's supposed to be. They mentioned Laura's gonna question, let's
see if she does well. Yeah, but anything the three

(01:16:33):
of them, I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I'm in, I'm in. Yeah, but wreaking revenge on them
would be funny too, It would be really funny. It
really good. But yeah, I'm glad a storylines come to it.
I'm glad. That's good. It's like next luck conclusion. We
have some forward movements between characters. It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah, uh yeah, And now I mean Alexis is a
big kind of place to the side about the old
Drew shooting thing, like she's never really for as much
he does a resigned on her at the beginning. There's
nothing now, so I'll be curious to see if she
gets sucked back into any of that or not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yes, I want to do when Charlotte and Louis get
back home. We got Charlie gonna talk to Rocco about Rick. Yeah,
that's got hold on to Lulu and Anime, I have
a talk also because she's back. Anime want to talk
to her, see what's going on. But Lulu is little,

(01:17:34):
She's freaked out a little bit. She's like, yeah, there's
a target on her. Now, my daughter has a target
on her. Just do the round.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Yeah. I what like is it's not like, I mean,
Lulu accepting just the reality of it. It's not like
just now that she does. And it's like, no, this
is just something that she's gonna always have because she is,
you know, the daughter of uh Him, So Valentine's daughter
comes with certain certain issues. And what I also like

(01:18:08):
is that I like the relationship that we're seeing built
between uh Her and Rocco as well too. Just the siblings.
It's great where he's sending her the photo of that
and she's like, oh, do I say anything to mom? Nope,
I'm not gonna say anything, like yeah, it's just like
that's a real sibling things like I'm just gonna talk
to my my sibling first and then we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Very true. I like them, I like the kids. They're
actually pretty good. My l are really good. And he
got Nathan wanting James.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, you know it felt uh like like a weird
beat to have with Felicia and Elizabeth. You know, we're like,
you know, understandably that Felicia's kind of thrown off about
the whole thing of Nathan being back, but that it
was that she would have realized like oh yeah, yeah,
you know, we you know, keep them in the fold
and it's going to be a lot better than if

(01:19:04):
you try to keep him alienated. Like, really, Felicia, you
should know that. I don't know why you need that reminder,
but all right, it gives you a scene. So I'm
always happy to see an screened Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Now we also have through your Mind on the side, umbrella.
We also have still that doctor and a Dalton guy
plus Emma and that's all that's still on the side too.
So I'm hoping they could clean this up and really
wrap it into something that's not as complicated, that's also
action packed and movement happens.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Yes, please, let's get this this ball rolling. Uh you know,
it's because there's just only so long that you can
keep Nathan and Britt on canvas and not give it
and at least give us or somebody out of the
show more insight as to be they're one of their

(01:20:01):
uh backstories about what's happened during this time that they have.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
A god agree, but it's no coincidence they're back. No,
I mean, what do you think right now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Where do you place in the ads that it is
Nathan being Nathan possibly be brain brainwashed, or that he
or b that he has uh Caesar's brain inside his head,
uh see, that he might have the person who isn't
be named in his head.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Harvey does not want a large probably wants it to
be Nathan because I hate remen hurt James, That's the
I think. But they set it up. They already set
up pre him that he's close to Cody, so if
something happens to you Nathan and quotes that's set up.

(01:20:59):
I don't know, say, I have no real speculation. It's
this toyline is so interesting and new a direction. I've
got read anything. So I don't know how long he's back,
she's back on contract. I have no idea, So I
don't know think I do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I mean, it would be interesting if you know, Ryan
Paybe became the new like Jerry Jackson sorts where you know,
we reveal whatever his deal is, either he's been brainwashed
or he's got somebody else's brain inside his head. Uh,
And he's there now for a little bit, and then
he goes away and then if he's a bad guy,

(01:21:38):
you know, he comes back, you know, every so often
to kind of cause a mischief.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
I don't know, it's just that it's it's just very exciting.
I don't know. I really have no idea what it's
going with this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
No, especially if they leave the door open that there
is a way to save Nathan or bring back Nathan
would be interesting because then that at least gives him
if he pops in it out every few years, like
a motivation for like, well, we can't completely hate him,
and there's a way that we can save him if
we can, right, maybe who does?

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
No, I can't you anything, We can't anything, I think,
so know, do we catch anything?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I think we did. I'm not sure we missed a
story or not. I think so. They were together.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I mean, we know that Isaiah is going to be
taking Porsche up to that cabin soon. Okay, we're gonna
see that cabin, baby birth up there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Always a cabin, kids, always a cabin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I would be curious to see how of this they
drag this up before she reveals to either Curtis or Isaiah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
But the story is fragerous. Yeah, I guess what. Oh
my god, Right, Okay, that's funny. While you said some
storylines you're like, we need a new beat, other ones
are going fast, so maybe they're just next in line.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
It just seemed to be kind of doing like this
thing where it was like, all of a sudden, we're
revealing and going straight and flows to my head.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Maybe not said that moment of Jason say the currently Nope,
Jocelyn is lying to you. She's a w SB agent
was the best. Oh that I to just be genuinely
excited about a g H story beat man, it's been
so like I felt like that, well for me, it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Was again for me, it was that and said, well.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Else he was on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
It was like, oh, so I saw the open he's
on and you just I just it's just that you
just thought, I'm gonna chop my puppet master. I went
just tell him what he'd done from him, and he's
gonna do it. And so it was like, here's the deal.
I love it. I just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
What I like about that too, is it could set
up the possibility of Drew having to just swallow his
vindictive nature and realizing that he needs to work with
Jason and Sunny to be able to stop Sidwell, the
people he hates the most, and now he's forced to
work alongside him. So it's like, yeah, there's a reason
why these two stuck around for so long Drew in

(01:24:30):
poor Charles, So maybe best to you know, not bird
bridges with them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
My enemy is my enemy is my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yeah, because yeah, that's I feel like we're only that
that has to be a turning point. We've set up
too much that how much Drew hates the two of
them to now have to set up a situation where
he has to need their help.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
It seems you're right. And the whole thing is Sidwell
is supposedly the bigger threat that's been established. He's he's
just silently becoming the bigger threats and that's why Marco
is like trying to be all legitimate and everything. But
mm hmmm, and Lo's gonna find out. It's all like

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he was so angry. But folks, God, bring Perry Sitting
to come back. Sorry, Writt is there. She needs her
best friend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
You know he'll be back for nurses ball, you know it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
He asked me. Yes, yeah, he asked me, Folks just
saying he asked me back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yeah, you can't have Britain Town while the other and
not have him surprise her to drop him. And it's like,
let's let's tear this thing apart.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
I just think he I think he just said they
have chemistry, the two actors, just like, yes, you want Brad,
I'll here. He's off for a short time or long
time we need because he he really did grieve her.
I mean, Parishon did a great job and we really
did grieve his best friend. He was upset me and Maxie.
I hope thing him. Maxie was never they never held
out but they're gonna be friends and stuff. And again

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we still don't have Maxie. But folks, as you saw,
if you haven't seen online or a page, she has
a whole anti arysthms. I mean, Frank, it's serious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Yeah, reading that article of that interview or man, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Know right, it's it's serious. Folks. You know what's going on.
Go to her page, go to tweens teating on an
X or kirston storms and other stuff. Her best friend
is Emmy Ryland, who actually played the last Lulu. Their
best friends, and she has been hurt by her side
the whole time. I know that close. Yeah, it's it's

(01:26:52):
you know, real life comes in and as I know
a person myself, real life comes in and can change
the course. But she's sounds like she's a fighter and
she wants to really get through this, had the surgery
and come back to work, and so I hope she
really hope she does, because Maxie is needed in half
of these scenes. I mean, for sure they mentioned on

(01:27:15):
the show. It's just it's weird without her, and we
both know it's it's not her fault, obviously, it's a
bigger thing. So I'm really curious how they do this
because they because she's she's the missing piece so far
at all this her seeing Brits, you know, her seeing Nathan.
I mean, come on, you know, just I mean there's

(01:27:37):
a lot, there's a lot of stuff going on there.
New sweater business too, oh yeah, the whole new business
they're doing. Also, yes, that's true, they've been they've been
croacheing or whatever. So but I just I just want
to give I love the actress and the character. I
don't know her personally, I've never met her, but I
just always loved I loved her. Days for Our Lives

(01:27:58):
is Bell. My kids love the Xenon movies. I watched
them there with them, and of course it's she's just
the perct Maxine. Just what was that again? Another another
national treasure I think for that age group.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
And in a way like we talked about last week too,
like having heard not there conveniently works for me for
the story at the moment. Yes, yeah, uh you know,
otherwise I don't want to max has had a terrible strength,
like I suppose, like anybody in relationships on soaps. But
I mean from Nathan being killed first to then the

(01:28:36):
whole thing that happened with your boy that you don't
want to talk about, you know, uh, too many, like
you know, if we're I don't want to reprise that
immediately like you Oh yeah, just like you know, just
all these terrible relationships that just go south. So having
Maxine not around to just possibly sucked back into that

(01:28:56):
kind of storyline. Uh, I'm okay with now, but I
agree she does need to come back at some.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Point does She's she's missed. But we're rooting for you,
Chris Kirsten. Once you get better in Nashville, we are
the best doctors that they can help you and and
get you back and get you back on track. That's
that's just that's some Seriously, It's funny because I always
forget that aneurysms you can survive him sometimes and they
don't burst. My girlther died the andeurysm. She didn't make it.

(01:29:25):
She died of one of those arms. So I don't.
I don't. Then our family is always bad, But I
know that people who do survive them because they get
them early enough and they're able to do this anything
with brain surgery, it's always just kind of iffy we go.
I don't think positive for him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Uh yeah, because I feel like until she goes back,
we're not really going to see her reveal of who
Naythan really is, what is right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
You know, but you're right cooming for now it can
be good. He takes James away, everybody's upsetting it. So
when she comes back it could be a really big thing. Fidelli.
We have we have to see that play out. Yeah,
her coming back has such consequences for him, so you know,
the people be really good. So then we did. Then

(01:30:10):
we did catch everything. Okay, uh and we caught all
that and chicken box and chicken pox. Kids, so wrying
to check this out at least. Yes, I had chicken pox.
I had when I was eleven. My mother got them
with you. I shoes thirty two. Yes, I'm fifty six, kids,
I'm not thirty two. So I am an old ass

(01:30:33):
getting fucking chicken box. But I'm okay. Nothing in my skin,
I'm told I'm fine. I'm like, I'm basically okay. Tomorrow
night with my first night out in seven days, so
I'm going to support my my chocolate twin. If you're
in the LA area, I want to try to mention
it again. It's it is. It is Tony Moore's last

(01:30:54):
night life event ever in Los Angeles. So I'm going
to just call drag me at dinner that was Hollywood Beaches.
I'm gonna see him perform and do all this little
stuff and and help usher him out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
So, oh man, that's a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
It is he is, This is not this is not
a choice he wanted. It is being thrust on him
the air. I will get too much stuff, but it's
the area who he is. Also, just it's not it's
not working out. And seventeen years is long enough to try.
Seventeen years, I don't mind giving up on that. After that,
what are you a certain age? I don't mind that.

(01:31:33):
So I'm with him on that. But I'm gonna go
support him and see him. He has there are things
in the horizon he's working on outside of that, So
we're gonna we're gonna push it forward.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
I mean, seventeen years and an incredible runt.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Yeah, I agree with that. Also, shout out to I
saw some X after Busters together we had so we
have a bunch of reunions. Tony met up and saw
Jeffrey Graham because his wife was nominated at the Emmy's
yesterday for the Kelly Clarkson Show. He's like, I saw Graham,
I said, I'm like, of course, he and his wife
Laura Palmer, who got me on Jimmy Kimmel. That's how

(01:32:08):
he got me, Jimmy Kimmel. She now works for Kelly
Clarkson New York. So they were there because they were
nominated and Kelly won a few awards that the show
won a few awards. Also, two of my friends, Vito
and Oh, I got his name all of a sudden,
Oh my god, I got his name. They were together
also in a weird kind of cobs plaything again, so

(01:32:31):
it's not just hot shouts to them too. I've seen
them in a while. So there's after buzzers everywhere, just
running around, you know, clicking their heels three times. I
don't know they're doing whatever they're doing, they're out there.
So just congratulations to them all said that we're all,
we're all to try and make it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
And somewhere Kevin Undergaro is just sitting there smiling, looking
down on all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
That should be another name looking down as correct that
we mentioned Channel Gimmes props. He did help me out here,
so little here and there, so yes, we're here. And
Hi birthday, Alan Locker, my buddy the locker room. I
cauckt you him yesterday. Uh yeah, so he's he's made

(01:33:15):
in another fabulous year. I love it. Congratulations to him
on that. And again, all of the Emmy content I got,
I got the equipment. I'll be going through the next
couple of days, so be patient. We'll be out on
the Daytime Emmy Specials podcast, not this one, not why
on the Spotlight, not Beyond the Gates Spotlight. It will

(01:33:37):
be on the Daytime Emmy Specials jail J Media. Make
sure you're following that. If you're doing audio, a video
will be on this channel obviously under that playlist. I'll
be releasing all beyond it, behind the scenes, beyond it,
Beyond the Gates though, all the content from the Emmys
I will be. I will be letting that out to

(01:33:59):
all of you a little bit little, so I have
to go through it. I have to edit it, I
have to look at it, make sure everything at intros
and outros, the whole thing. So I'll be working on
that the next couple of days, so stuff will be
coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
We'd be also then giving your own uh personal aside
to this like I would have asked this question.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
I'm not that bad. No to hear. All of my
commentary will be on our daytime. I mean, He's Winner
Special and that is on Tuesday night this Tuesday, Walter Ragsdale,
Jerry Waggott, myself and Candice Back who is on the
direct carpet when we talk about the whole show, all

(01:34:42):
the winners to see this show we do every year.
Who won the predictions? I can tell you right now,
wasn't we? So that's at five pm Pacific, eight Eastern
this Tuesday, October twenty first, Take no prisoners, Take we take.
We also a was lightly frank, trust and believe. We're

(01:35:04):
gonna tell you all the truth as we see it.
So it's a lot of fun. So we're gonna do that.
They're all they're all on the East coast. I'm here
in the West coast. Kind of funny, so we have
a good time to him about that. And belated birthday
to our girl like Critia Lion. It was her birthday
last week. Uh she's doing her doing her things, so
congratulations to her making another year. Uh speaking of that,

(01:35:25):
I think that's it, Frank Ran.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Yeah, well you did that disappoint James when you said
that you have a story to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
I told you I got a story to tell kids.
My life will be a book one day. Trust me,
I'm gonna we're gonna get out there already said if
I die, all my journals can be published. There's a
lot of ship talking, you know. Trust me. Probably did
make some money off of I name names, all kind
of stuff. Frank, and he's bliding his journals all kinds

(01:35:55):
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Who are you gonna have to the audiobook of that
of those audio book?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Actually, I do have somebody in mind, actually your mind.
I like his voice, your mind. But okay, I'll be
did so you guys pick go you one flabido he
will he'll like his voice. You like his own voice,
so he won't do it. As why I have our
friend Robert who is our several audio drums work together.
I like he He actually did two audio chapters of

(01:36:23):
one of my books.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I liked it nice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
And that's on the Real Story Story podcast. You listened
to that, you can hear about my crazy life back
in the day that ticke kids, Franks and Happy to
go Jackie I'm everywhere else and James I Junior somewhere
near you. We appreciate you guys showing up today. Ex

(01:36:47):
Nice supplies for you guys. Thanks to Frank for joining
me today. Of course to do this. It was last minute.
I asked a couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
He said, yes, there's no place outse I'd rather be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
He love it, And folks, I have the chicken pox.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Is I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
I'm fine, Folks at this point. I'm just salty. But
that's why I'll be salty for That's why. That's why
I have high blood pressure. I'm naturally salty. If I
have a good week, We'll see you on Sunday.