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November 23, 2025 • 83 mins
Frank and James talk General Hospital!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh ship, all rightbody, we're back. We're here. It's Frank Moran,
Emmy Jeames, like ten years running, kids, shut up there
you go. Yes, ten years and running and we're tired,
but I'm bump. It's your Sunday soap shows US. Of course,

(00:25):
Edition Days was on after us on their Channition Days
like chocolate Twin do this stuff over there? Ten years also,
you wouldn't be here with other him. So we're here
for you today and welcome everybody. Come on in the
water is fine. Uh, we did beyond the gates. We
did it. We did it, we did. We had a
great episode with Amanda Russ. We turned off assignments and

(00:48):
U Candice mac Candy pooh, they were here talking about
all that and they can check that out. It's on
audio and video. And then of course, well Temmy dot
Covey's on assignment now so she's not here. But we
had Amanda Rust and Cannison myself to a combined show.
So so if you're looking for two separate shows, you

(01:10):
won't find it. We did a Y and R Bold
major spotlight. We called it Yes and that's how a video.
It's one show audio I did post on each separate show.
So if you're just a yn R fan, you go
to ym spiled Audio. If you're just a bold fan,
Boe people meet spol Audio. We talked about Why and

(01:33):
R first for the first hour, in like ten to
fifteen minutes, and they're tall, bold and beautiful. So that's
that's kind of how we did it. So yeah, that's
how we did and it was with people. It was
a lot of fun. We had a lot to say
about Why and R. They let's say about YNR, the
dispensling of the gay couple. We've gone viral apparently online

(01:55):
from our comments the last couple of weeks. There are
people from the show work on it have heard what
we're saying. Okay, snipp into our video out there on
TikTok and stuff. So we stand behind everything we say.
But I just want to say, hi, coach Sandra Cheryl,
I just want to reiterate this part. We are an

(02:17):
opinion show. We give our opinions. You have your opinions.
So I'm just saying, what's we do. We give opinions,
we get we we we see what we see. We
tell our opinions. Our opinions are our own because I
always say our own. Frank's opinions are Frank's mine are
always right, mind of mine. But just said, but that's

(02:40):
but we don't we don't say it. That's super super
seriously like we just give we watch the show, we
give your opinions. But there are there are times and
occasions where I do take something seriously and I will
discuss it a little further. But again, it's my opinion.
You have, yours have mine. The dialogue is open, so
I mean, I have no problem with Eloever, that's what
us to know that this is what we do. We tell,

(03:01):
we tell our opinions and what we think. So that's
what all That's what all these shows do, not just us.
Everybody does that do We give our opinions and you
kind of go, I agree, Orr, I don't agree, And
so that's fine. Know that that's all we do. So
we don't just recap uh. And I stand by everything
I say, so I'm ask I know that whatever I say,

(03:23):
I stand by it and can repeat it back to me.
So I do that. I know, Coach, I've seen you
in a while, Jason say hello, So yes, I said,
be you're out the gates. Why are and Boulder out there.
I have to mention all of a sudden, I don't
know why, but the number one show today on my
network is the fucking Crest After Show. Yeah, okay, we'll

(03:47):
take it. I heard there's been some talk about Crest
the one people that rebooted or something, so it's getting
lots of attention.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Frank was Jane Waban fans man. They want it Jane Whan.
I don't think there's I don't think. I don't think
they're worried about Jane Wyman so much, but because she's
but also.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
A news wee big. It's the fortieth anniversary, and Frank
is excited about this. It's the fortieth anniversary of the
premiere of Dynasty to the Kolby's two seasons and that
and my show on that show is a big hit
today too, so I knew that would be some happy anniversary.

(04:30):
The Kobe's Frank.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, uh, you know, Frank speechless. I got Frank speechless.
You know, do you say you don't know what to
say that? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I guess I thought I made a rand a loon.
I mean, I know it didn't run as long as Dynasty.
I thought more than two seasons, but just too.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
It ended with Fallon being taken by spaceship. That's how
that was the famous ending. Also, why the show is
big this week is because there's a show ca on
TV we like. On the CW, Frank, they picked eight
shows The Love Boat, Honeymooners, Cheers, Dynasty, bloking Out, a

(05:12):
few other Brady Bunch, a few iconic shows. They talk
about them. They're actually really good, Frank, just an hour long,
and actually I learned some new stuff from each one.
I didn't know. I thought whatever. But Dynasty was this
week also, and I almost forgot. The whole first season
was about Stephen Carington being gay and Blake killing his
lover at the end, which led to Alexis coming on

(05:33):
the second season. So I got I forgot about that.
I totally forgot about that. So see Frank's speechless, He's
frozen and he's speechless.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, I mean the thing I remember that always sticks
out with me is just the big oil refinery explosion.
H Yep, we had to get see getting a new face.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes. And also this week my Dallas after the show
is doing very well too. It is like think forty
eight years or forty seven years of the revelation of
who shot j are.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I remember that, Kristen, it was you who shot Jr.
That's what Stue Ellen said. Also know, we wore just
another one the anniversary of Luke and Laura's wedding. Still
thirty two million people, the highest ever daytime audience watched

(06:29):
that wedding. I was there. I watched it. I was
thirteen years twelve, thirteen years old, I watched it. I
remember watching it those two.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Days, look at that and gasping as they recursed.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Are you all from Oh my god, Lister Taylor happen
to curse on you Luke and Laura. That's right, urbanturb
It's as he did it. So we had we have
some major things this week, and obviously and Jeanie Francis
being on state of mind last weekend and today she's
on both.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Even did what Anthony Gary's husband showing him?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I know. We love Dynasty so much. We named
our American esquell Dog Alexis Morale, Carrington, Kobe Dexter Rowan Gary.
That's all Bunny, Oh my god, that's hilarious. Yead Moldavia.
That's all I gotta say. To you a dynasty, the
Moldavia massacre, it's all I gotta say. I say that's

(07:26):
the best massacre. But still look, Laura Wins, they do
no other daytime audiences come close. It's just there's nothing
that we don't I don't think, you know, Frank, I
don't think we'll ever have that that again. I mean,
like that kind of stuff like your Mask is one
of the biggest ones who shot y'all, Like we won't
have that again.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's we're too fractured with streaming,
with so many different platforms to watch stuff YouTube. There's
just there's no way that there's gonna be something that's
gonna really galvanize the entire nation around just one one program.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I remember we had to watch it live like that.
There was no r there was no tv O, there
was no even back, there was no taping. I mean,
there was nothing. When we talked about those shows have
these huge audiences. I think it's like one of the
Super Bowls to back then or whatever. Like you just
we just won't have that where you have to we

(08:23):
had to take off for school or where we had
to skip school to go watch the Canlaura. You know
when mass was it was in the good Night, Goodbye
Man whatever that episode you sat and I mean everybody
watched it that night. There was no repeat, there was
no streaming service. Later you had to watch it then
or you missed it until until syndication maybe right, and
then you make few years later.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean, while technology is made and able to have
a more convenient life in terms of being able to
watch stuff more often when you want to watch it,
it does kind of rob the kind of zeitgeist kind
of moment that you have where everybody is just talking
at the same time about one particular thing.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I agree with that. And this last age I mentioned
speaking of that, you remind me when I was a kid,
we had to watch Roots. When Roots came out, there
was a point I mean everybody, I mean, black, white,
a man, who you were, if you're old enough, you
watched it and it was seven nights and that was
the first time you ever did that on television. There
was never that birth the miniseries. They just wanted to
get out the way they think they think aybody was
gonna watch it was too controversial, so they totally and

(09:26):
everybody watched it. It was huge, and by what we all
watched it, it was huge.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean the days of those kind of like when
you get bad and then you were all like showgun.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yes, South, North and South all those yes, all of
them they do. Those days are just are just over.
Those days are over. So I feel I just feel
a little nostalgia. But that's why I think folks are
enjoying my I have a bunch of after shows. We
talk about stuff like that by all my children, wife
to live. But you just talk about all this stuff
and so check them out. My not Slanding one was

(09:56):
big there day because not Landing is now streaming. If
not worry, shoot you shoot me somewhere now. So just
people are looking forward to that older content. So I
think it's think it's wonderful. It's wonderful, Okay, kids, Back
to General Hospital. Speaking of speaking of Laura, of Luke
and Laura, I can say this last the week before

(10:18):
we've been saying Jane Elliott, Jane Elliott, Jane Elliott. This
week it was Genie Francis. Genie Francis, Genie Francis. This
bitch has been on the show since nineteen seventy six,
off and on. She was fourteen years old when she started.
Folks just to see her today just come in and

(10:41):
act her ass off and whatever they threw at her,
she just I mean she every scene, she commands, every
scene she's in. I see you guys are chat were
already praising her already. It's like, it's like, why you
what I thought about Frank, I was gonna say this
to you for me, it was like, finally, when you

(11:02):
use somebody who's good, I legitimate storylines, it works. They're
using her file like they actually are so many different
things they're using.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Her, which is great. I mean, it's you know, I mean,
I I mean, I feel like that's why you know
she may have stepped away before too. It's just when
people aren't feeling that their time is being used, they
naturally want to maybe to try to do something elsewhere
where they're they're able to actually to do stuff. So
I'm glad. And for as much times as we've heard

(11:37):
g H say like, oh no, we're gonna give give
this this person great stuff, that's not always the case.
So nice to see this stuff coming across uh Gidie
for instance's plate, and yeah, you know it's I mean,

(11:58):
they are it's man. I mean, I guess this is
what you want. It's like we know more of an
inside relationship due to the two of them. But I
mean to the public out of large, I mean it
does seem, you know, like, oh, that the mayor is
playing favorites. I mean, it's tough when there's no no
a known crime boss. It's it's tough to to you know,

(12:22):
have the general public go, oh, that's that's cool, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But here's the thing, frank and I think it's really interesting.
Back in the day because you watched back in the day,
the nineties or whatever, it was always established that Sonny
and Luke were friends. Genie was there off and on,
but Sonny and Luke were friends. So I kind of
love that they've strung it through and they've shown us

(12:48):
their friendship actually recently of late, because because Frankie, are
you and I always say, ex, give me thirty seconds
of this or a scene of that, and we're good
on screen, we're good. And I find they've done they've
sprinkled that in the last couple of years that they
are like when they are family through kids, but their
friends also they know each other. So I said a chat.
They understand each other.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean, you know it's they knew each other
before they're currently at work. I mean when she first
you know, met Sonny through Luke. I mean, it was
still early in the Frank Smith stuff, before Sonny made
his ascension, and Laura, you know, would get dealing with
all the stuff that she'd be in catatonic and then
coming in and also being there. I mean, you know,
they've they've seen each other, you know, grow and change

(13:32):
throughout their lives.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
This week we'll get we gave fully into these stories,
but I just like to kind of sprinkle across what
I just impressed me. Sidwell, we messaged each other. We
actually we don't message other that often mean then we
did we been I'm like, what I have to say.

(13:54):
I jumped when he was like I got happened to agree,
and it shot him. No longer conversation, No, he just
shot out of him. And I gotta give Kelly Tebow.
Her response was like, I mean, it was like Simon
was thinking, He's like, I've taken the next day, He's like,
what I agree with you? I agree he was a liability.

(14:19):
I did when you asked I got rid of him.
It's like I didn't be killed. I go, I laughed,
but see, to me, it shows that he can be scary. Yes, finally, right, finally,
it was everything.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
From him mocking Jason Morgan where he would kind of
adopt that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh my god, that was I mentionaged him on that.
I said, that was hilarious, Like he helped. I was like,
I wonder if that we get back on the show
because I wonder if that was scripted or something that
they kind of threw it kept.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Just phenomenal, phenomenal. I loved, loved all of that.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
And too many times h has used just a gun
as just a way to kind of create tension of
the scene. It's like, no, no, no, if you're pulling out
of the gun, you need to use it. And man,
there was no like you said, no, who that gun
is out and fired.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I really jumped. Oh my god. I was like, I
was like, I just didn't I didn't expect I really
did not expect that at all. Yeah, I was like
I knew, well, we knew something's going to happen to him.
We knew that part. We knew something's gonna happen to him.
I you know, what I assume off screen we're fight, like,
well they'll fighting and Laura's I thought that's what we

(15:38):
would find out and not really know for sure who did.
I had a whole thought about that. No, they showed it.
Yeah we know Sidwell did it with no shame. And
now we're getting what Britt went through. We got a
little backstory, Frank, it was against your will on some
level that they did it yea to help save her

(16:03):
and then she's trapped, so it kind of got an
idea that she doesn't know. I mean, it's just because
he's trapped.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Interesting, my only one. It sets the states to set
the stakes well, and it makes everybody understand just how
terrified Britt is through all of this, uh, and how
newly terrified when you see somebody shot right in front
of you. It's one thing to be kind of frustrated,
but they had to see somebody killed in front of you,
realizing like, oh crap, this is truly awful. Uh that

(16:37):
it just is now going to prolong. How many more
scenes we have to have of Jason Eski, Britt, just
tell me, just tell me that can help put me like,
I'm already at my limit of those scenes, and I
feel like this sets the table to have even more
well for me.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm just happy that we kind of now because you're
not kep asking like what, like what we don't They
kept playing it like we're not sure what Britt or
doesn't know her what part she's did it? Now we
get it. They came in, swooped her out to finish
her father's work. Yes, and she was working for them.
We don't know who the head guy is, but she
Sidwell brought her in and I was like, we're saving you, baby,

(17:16):
saves you, bitch, so you gotta do what we gotta do.
So I kind of love the fact that she is terrified.
I was like, now can't get on home. Now we
get a sense of now she's under the thumb of
these people. She needs the medications. She's not so she's
not cured. She needs medication. Will she let Jason help her?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean, so far, I don't know. I just need
I want to just to keep the storyline moving, Like
Britt makes a choice that she decides just to you know.
I mean, I feel like because she can't really leave
poor Charles, I guess because that's where everything is at now.
But It's just like I can't keep having seeds of
Jason and Britt where Jason's asking her to help, you know,

(18:02):
just to open up to him, and her going are
you really gonna be there for me? I can't have
more of those scenes. So some way or the other,
of the show just got to make a choice. I
feel it's more exciting if she does say something to
Jason and starts trying to fight back. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Also just going with what kinds of go get back
and we'll get back in a deeper as long as
skim across. I like you. Daniel Goddard something he choose
some scenery. I'll give it to him this week as
he's as he was going on his way out. And
even Frank, I mess this too, the little quick slat
look at me and the slat You like that? Frank?
Did you loved it? You love Frank loves a slap
first of all, but you loved it?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah? I that was just great. That was just like,
oh man, I mean, boy, who hasn't seen your parents?
You back in the day. It's like you pay attention
to me.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Crack okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
So yeah, it felt very much like GENI Laura taking
it into the woodshed. Uh I James too as well?
Is that I bump it's they really didn't do much
with that character, I mean, and then at the end
they just ramped him up, uh to just you know,
do this real big quick. I mean, we knew he
was a shady guys who came on, but we just

(19:20):
didn't really delve it at anything with him. And then
he just as JH does.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, they bring out a character, they don't do
anything with him, and then at the end they accelerate
from zero to ninety on how badd he is, and
then they just kill.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Him off, which is the same. But then but then
for me, if again, if it fords some story to
make it for for the for the folks who are
on the show for real, then I'll take it, you know,
I'll take it. But Grizzy, they didn't do it. They didn't.
They didn't do much with him. But again, points he
had his moment this week. He had his moments this week.
So I'll give it to him for that at least.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, and I feel like a character like this that
we don't really have any sort of attachment to this
zero to ninety escalation is not as egregious as say
something like Paul Hornsby or Jagger when you do that
with those characters that even though they haven't been on
the canvas for a long time, it's still that they
are at one point they did have a huge part
of the gh canvas, and did did just treat them

(20:14):
like that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's like, I gree with you're that to you watch her?
Want to know, do you think the slap was improvised?
And I can't tell because the way she did it
was that was like it because it was like it
was just like look at me. Just let you like
look at me, and it was like wow, I was like, okay, girl,
I got my attention. And Elizabeth was all smiling back there.

(20:37):
I was like even Nathan was kind of like, I mean,
but it was like, but it's one of those It
was like in the heat of the moment, because see
when her and Cyrus got into at the hospital, she
she she she she had that like I, you know,
go find the bomb, and then she slapped him like
she just slaps like she she went to town. That

(20:58):
obviously was scripted, and then she kind of went off
and it gets pulled away, But I don't know. I
just I think I don't know. It's a good question.
I want to, like I said, I would have to
have a show or find out for somebody. I'll look
around and see if we hear anything. But I just
loved it. I just thought it was just such a
funny move to do. Yes, It's like I was just like,
look at me, just like like oh, like he's like

(21:21):
your mother's admonishing you. Like well, it was hilarious. I
just thought it was hilarious. And for Young Arrests fans,
there's a chance to see mother and son back together again,
so this week, so they played it on Young Arrests,
so it's kind of for us. Was a little fun.
Uh wink wink to Young Arrests fans. Yeah, Genevieve, she
played Genevieve where slapped a shout a cane. That's that.

(21:43):
It was that. That was their characters on that show.
So it was it was good. So it's nice little
nod and now I want to just go over again.
Another side I want to give. We have new people
in the credits this week. We want the credits. I
want to give the kids. I say kids. It's because
they're in their twenties and teenagers and twenties. I would
get them all their props. I'm really enjoying this storyline.

(22:08):
I I mean, I really am enjoying all of them.
They're they're doing a great job.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, all great. And they're bringing a little bit
of their they're flavored to too where it's like Charlotte
just wanted to push it a little too far. It
just like, hey, we need to really add to the story,
you know, just we're seeing little bits of personalities come
out where we know that that can cause trouble for

(22:37):
you know, later later in down the road. So I
really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Danny going, they know how bad you really are? Do they?
She a smile. I laughed so hard. The cat's eye,
that's very much. They're playing into that, right. Danny is
kind of the hot head with the soul. That's Jason
and Sam kind of mixed together. Rock Go's the good guy,
but you also us to be there for everybody. He's

(23:02):
part Spencer, right and part you know, part Corinthe he
has that in them. So I love that. I love
all that. And Emma is that she went too far
like her whole I loved her in BRIT's Little Great
Little Grab. I was a kid that was that was
a fun little like. No, she's like she does she
do it right back to the they do it back
to each other. And I love how Emma's trying to

(23:25):
tell your Brett, no, Rocco does care about he's in
he's into you, like he's not, it's not that. And
she's like, and he just lied to me and he
goes She's like, calm down, bitch, it's not's not it
like they're trying to do this for me. And and
also I like that. I like how she is with Geo.
I actually I'm actually I'm glad they're softening her a bit.
It's like it's always harsh and cartoonish at first, and

(23:49):
then they soften.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
It, yeah, which is which is nice. And so I
and and you know, I mean, at first I thought like, well,
Emma has just do all this for nothing, but it
was nice to find out later in the week that no,
she was right, but Dald was just doing his his
his experiments off campus.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yes, that'd be real too. So that's even though he's dead,
we have that to look forward to. Also, And I
also I also kind of like that they're all kind
of feeling related, they're all there for each other, and
it's just I'm liking this new this new group. I'm
actually interested to see what happens. I'm curious what the

(24:28):
neg Well, now that Dalton's gonna be gone, I guess
charges will be dropped. I guess. I mean, I don't know.
I'm just I'm just like, I don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now. It seems to make the case that it would be,
which is good because I can only imagine if anybody,
like if Nathan is here and he hears them, could
do their confession again, just whoa, that is not jib
And he did the first right. I was thinking the

(24:57):
parents are here, he can't be so he did it
all purpose? Then, yes, that's why he coming that way
because I was.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Thinking, you can't question them without their parents, but that
was the whole point, and they can be So I
was like, Okay, sometime I'm just saying I'm happy with
this digital general. Hoss was was really smart this week,
so I was kind of like, okay, I get what
they were doing, and Louli was like, you know, thank you.
I mean, so I was like I was trying to
figure out, you can't, you can't. They're miners. You can't
make you know. Oh it was on purpose and now

(25:24):
it's a admissible but I just I just I'm just
really enjoying the kids the whole go around, and adding
Geo when they're especially because he's a little older than them.
And everybody's mentioning this. And I'll touch on this really
quick to you a little bit. We'll get into it
in a second. I know it was too a little
too scened from the color mom, but you know what,

(25:47):
I bought into it, Frank, that whole I love that
whole scene. I just I at first the Michael, the cousins, see,
we can't talk about that, you can't about the other
one before that first Michael and Brooklyn have always been
cousins to each other. And then we kind of divide
it because this will thing. It was nice to see
them come back together for something, even those whole net

(26:07):
things off camera, which is probably on the days of
our lives, running out whatever. But then you know him
kind of bringing them together and calling Geo, and so
I loved it. I don't care. I loved it. I'm
all im And the way that Dante went off find
on Gill again, which is predictable. That was predictable. But
I will say the Brooklyn jail scene, I liked it.

(26:27):
I bought it, I took it. I'm in Frank sue.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Me, you know, I'm I'm fine with it. Two if
you want to, if we want to fast track it,
we've we've drawn it out so long, right the other
way that I am fine with us if we need
to just speed it up. And he wants to say
bomb now, I don't need to go another six months,
eight months of this then get a bomb. Let's just
let's just let's just go. Let's just do it, because

(26:52):
it seemed like the show's more invested at this point
and kind of creating more friction between Dante and Gen.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yes, I'm fine, So I'm good. So I'm good. I'm like,
that's I just said. It's a little too Sumican. Thanks mom,
But I'll buy it. I'll take it. I'm like I
was looking loud and seeker because they both did. And
I'm gonna say this out loud to you. I don't
care if it gets back to him or whatever. It's
not Frank sins is James saying it. The guy who

(27:20):
plays Geo is most improved actor. He is improving. I'm
actually seeing him do better and better on screen. And
that's and maybe there's somebody's helping. Maybe he's getting help.
I don't know what. I hope it is, but I
would have to say if he's he is, he's doing
so much better these days and actually enjoyable to it.
I like him in Brooklyn together. I like the whole thing.

(27:41):
I'm liking it. And he would Chase yelling at him,
going off on him. I actually didn't mind that scene. Chase,
Dante's scared. Dante's totally scared. Of course he's scared, So
I mean he's just of course he's gonna yell up
at Geo. And even though later he said he felt
a little bad, he went little too far. I mean
he did say that. I mean, that is a hot head.
But he's a good guy basically, and so I think, yeah,

(28:03):
it's gonna take longer for them to get together. It's
like like I saw with you, let's get one, let's
get one coupling, let's get them together. Then what can
you work on Dante next?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Because what it's the nice thing is I feel it's
still that whole sequence of events creates a lot of
fixtion in another relationship. So it gives a little bit
between Dante Brooklyn as they're trying to figure out GEO. Uh,
it adds some stuff to Chase and Brooklyn because you,
I mean, for as much as Brooklyn it was like,
well Michael could do it. I heard like now this,

(28:36):
I mean she's got you know, because of this, I
mean she's got her boy. She's got He called her
not be you know, wanting to support Michael as much
as Chase is like wanting to try to sabotage him.
So that's great. Uh, that's that that whole sequence is
going to really get and get some stuff on other relationships.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
But Chase, he's out of control.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Jeez, he's just as bad as as he's accusing the
y where it's just like you're so focused on one
one person, like just like you are, Jase, just like
you are.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
And Alexis she tried to Yo. She was trying to
tell him the law and stuff. And thank you Sun
Advocate for the super chat, thank you, Happy Thanksgiving, you
t and twenty dollars thank you. But that's that's the
whole point, it's like he's so doggedly on this unless
it's like okay, that is that the answers. She's like
ann and wasn't. I mean, it's like he's just going

(29:33):
so far. But so that's because that's happening there. He's
getting she's teamed too much. But I love that they're
really coming after Porscho all of a sud. I mean,
they're really saying this up, aren't they. She's over here,
lying in the Curtis baby picture, lying over here, but
they're I mean behind the scenes, they're really coming there.
They're really wrapping us up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I feel like she's going to be caught unaware. Somebody
put the PCBD goes, hey, Portia, we want to chat
with you.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
For a bit. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
And at this point, I don't know who she would
get as a lawyer, because you can't use she can't
use Alexis, she can't use Diane. I mean maybe maybe
I guess she hits Martin, maybe, but she can't Begause. Well,
he's representing Drew, so he can't be shooting another potential.
I can't represent somebody else that could be cheap a

(30:29):
shooter for his old client.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
So it's hilarious. You're right, anything any thing about that part,
because yeah, because I love Anna's like I kind of
did something just tell you know, I feel bad. But
Rick and Alexis again rick Hurst and Nancy Grot are
just gold their goal. That whole exchange, I mean, the

(30:51):
smart ass remark since they're going back and forth and
how he gives her an ultimatum and she's like by
He's like okay, I'll tell you, and it was just
it was like, it just was hilarious. I love that
whole exchange. They are just like they're again their gold
and how they came together. I love the whole I

(31:12):
love that whole sequence.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yes, loved it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Love it was.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, It's just that was really great and it just
shows that there's that that that little niche that Rick
can fit right into that. But the show uses it
in just that right way, just like, yes, this is great.
You know, he doesn't always need to put people people
in hid rooms and keep them hostage.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
As he said, you know, being chopped in the ballgag,
would you know change your mind for life? She's like okay,
I mean like it's just it's it's just it. It
worked on so many levels, and they both are good lawyers.
And also we still have Sonny who really wants to
believe in this. I love when he's talking to Carl
and she's like, come on, He's like, no, I know,
I get he gets it, but he just wanted He's like,

(31:56):
we want peace. It's like after a he said, it's
funny here, sunny people can change. It's funny to hear
him say that, and coudis like, I don't know, and
she's thinking about her man oh and everything.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
That she's laid out of that couch uh Man and
Brennan is going to town and she's just like, I
don't think I can keep doing this.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't think I keep doing this. But then go
into town. He was ready and waiting, he was ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Oh he was.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
He was really, you should get that. You should get that.
Laura Wright's face to that whole thing. Franken is right,
which is like, this is disgusting. I can't please let
something happen. And it did. She's lucked out where I
see you later. I don't know when I was like
she said no or something she said playfully and I
walked out. I'm like she was like Oh my god,

(32:50):
I'm loving I love it. I love this because, like
they said, if she messes up, woo, he will go
scorched earth. He will go he will go scorched earth.
LORDA was like she was ready to puke. That's what
I say. She's good. She was good. It's like, that's like,
that's a good actor because before you made her think

(33:11):
she was into him, you felt it. Now you feel
the whole disdain. That's good. It's like, how long does
she keep this up? He's just like, Okay, yes, it's Lord,
It's it's it's my girl, Carley. That was hilarious. I just,
I just I love that so very much. That was
That was a good scene too. I would say one

(33:32):
thing that's negative real quick. So folks are listening at home,
and this is a pregnant.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Pause, a chance for you to come gather close.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Ye, come closer to the microphones. Let's please give Tree
that different storyline. Please. The two minute shoes on screen
were excruciating. Isaiah, no, isaiahm sorry, what's his name? Kai?
She need they need to give her a difference. I mean, Frank,

(34:07):
and I've said this so many times, get out of
her parents, either put her fully in where she knows everything,
or keep her out of it.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yes, I can't. I can't stand this. Like she just
needs she needs her own thing going on, and then
we see how that interacts with what is going on
with her parents' lives at some point and that's fine,
but damn, she just needs something that's just not not
focus on her parents' relationship. I just know that, you know,
if they knew that this blackmail wasn't here, that they can. Girl,

(34:42):
there's so many things go wrong with that relationship to
you just need to just stay out, keep out of it,
get and look for a storyline. Just look for a
storyline for yourself. Gh does not want to give her anything.
It's it's really weird to me.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's weird. I mean, yeah, I mean it's weird.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean I keep coming down, we both keep coming
down on how the writers have Curtis and Portion just
kind of Iftilie her all the time. So but they're
not giving treating anything else either, So I don't know
why they have they see this characters just I mean,
especially when they give her all this stuff, a spencer
like she can do stuff to then go so far back. Now,

(35:27):
it's so crazy to be.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
And also you have Josh your best friend. I mean,
you're not really involved with her at all. Yeah, I
mean it's just kind of it's just like I don't
I mean, I'm just like, I understand she's supporting character
of I'm sorry, got it, but like, why aren't we
using her in a way that can help ford story
or exactly, well, she's walked in on Johnson Vaughan. That's funny.

(35:53):
She's walked in on them, and oh my god, what's
going on? I mean, what does she find out that
Josh was wsp by accident? That's a story.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, I mean it becames very much like Bradley Cooper
on Alias, where it's like, you know, the the outside
world finds out and you're like what, no, no, we
see what happens when they get involved.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Show don't Me started? That was my show don't even started.
Tell you my Name Is? And I was in the
crash that one season ending. I love that love that.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
What uh that's what she wakes up like years later
and like yesything like that.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, I thought that ending. It was just like my
name is what, I'm sorry, that's myself that whole thirteen
thing or whatever on aliens, whatever, the whole thing. I
just all that. But it's a story. But yeah, and
and Trina and Geo, you're not part of that at
all either. But there's like so much, you know, there's
you know, they're just you're living in the quartermay property.

(36:55):
You're not part of the quartermain stuff. She's been left
out of everything, saying it's weird. I don't know what
I mean. So it's like, why are you on the
show because Curtis and Porsch are being used, so they
are in story. So I'm like, it's it's not like
they're not in a story either. They rather bring on
hat Daddy. They give Trina a story. It seems like

(37:16):
once in a while.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, you know, as much as it's nice to be
able to see Curtison and his dad have scenes and stuff,
it would be just great to also have like port
Curtison and Trina just have real, you know, honest father
daughter talks like this is life and this is what's
going on. But I don't know, I don't want to.

(37:39):
I don't want the show to get rid of her.
I just give her something you can get rid of
kai because guys aren't really doing anything but Trina, please
just give her something.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
And I mean, and also, you know, I don't want
to say it's I understand how shows work. I'm not idiot.
I know how shows work, and they have budgets and
all that kind of stuff. But some things there is
no excuse it. Just to really just be really honest
about this. Sometimes the writers don't want to write for
certain people. I yes, for certain characters, they just don't
feel that so you don't. And I know there's a rotation.
Sometimes I'll write for these characters a lot right now,

(38:13):
and then they get a little break and so I
get all the different things that can happen on a show,
on a soap opera. But I'm just saying, but for me,
the treating thing is really egregious. It's the point it's
almost embarrassing. I mean, it's just like it's it's it's
just almost embarrassing. And like for her because everyone else
in her age group has story, so I won't buy this.
But I can't write for her and I can't end

(38:34):
up ting. I mean, that's just it makes no sense
to me. That's just that just yeah, And I.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Don't want the next I don't want to solve for
that to be just hey, Spencer's coming back. He's you know, like, no, no, no,
she needs more than just being in that sort of story.
You need to give her another story. And then if
Specer comes back in some other point, great, but she
needs something else that's not just either she's in a
relationship or she's just marginalized.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Right again, they're they're using Isaiah, they're using portion, so
her circle, they're using them. Yes, Stella, Stella is recurring.
She has to several shows. She's recurring. We know that
at this point, he doesn't work as much. But I mean,
but Treeta, I'm just like, I don't know. I just
think there's that there there. You could write her into
a couple of things and still have her reoccurring. Just
that what they're writing it to her is it's not

(39:18):
it's not good. It's not good. It's just not do
anything she has because she has no idea what's going on. So,
I mean, she doesn't know what's going with Jordan, and
Jordan was looking at like, girl, you know what's going on.
It's like, I mean, it just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
I mean, I mean, would guys being the voice of reason, right,
You're like, man, all right, we gotta go, guys, we gotta.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Go exactly so I don't know, Um, Lucas, we got
to run him for a second. Him and Carly are
just like they're just they're fighting. That's fine. I'm fine
with that. That's fine because we're seeing I mean, I
think they're leading to that. Marco is you know, he's
kind of more more allowed in his father than anybody
wants to think.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I mean, at some point we're gonna see Lucas come
back to carl and go like, oh my god, you
were right, of course, but right.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
There, of course. And it's it's funny because I do
like the Carlely Oh, I said Laura Wright Carly and
Lucas relationship. Actually liked them together. They cuds b they
did more with him. They've done it in a long
time to Lucas and her sibling. Yeah, they're showing and stuff.
I'm loving. I love Ava telling Marco You're not gonna

(40:31):
heard him, right, I said, with a smaller face, and
he smiled too. He's like, no, I love him, so okay.
He's like I was like, sure, okay, kids, I love that.
I'm like that. They naturally because they never had Lucas
play with them very much, So I like that him

(40:52):
and Ava are like nephew and aunts for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
I mean it's just what it gives Ava something else
to see, kind of a softer side of her, like
we get to see with Trina and uh yeah for
Lucas just you know, like hey, yeah, let's just you know,
it's always messy. It's always better when your family connections
are a little messy.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, that's fine. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with that.
It's okay, it's okay. I'm just trying to figure out
how Josh is gonna fit in all this. But guess
we'll guess, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I guess does it at some point does Brennan's plan
work and that he sees something? But he talks to
Jos first because they're still in friendly terms as opposed
to Carly.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Right, and this whole thing with pascalping he makes me laugh.
Oh my god. When when rit saw him at her face,
that was perfect. That was perfect. I was like, oh
my gosh, She's like, uh, what are you doing here?
Basically it was like can we take you off? I

(41:53):
ain't going anywhere? And it's like I ain't going with him,
and it was like, yes you are, give the keys,
give the key, give the keys, okay. And then when
he took it back to their place and he warned her.
That's what I'm saying. It's it's really great to see
that now we get a point of at least a
specific point of view.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
She's in trouble and he is much more intimidating now
in the in the butler outfit than he is. It
is jam Jamie Jobs.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Jamas. That's hilarious. Yes, so we have that going on it.
You know, they have that set. They've had this set
for a million years. I have no problem with windomere
So the more to marry or whatever, that's what I mean.
I get it. Can you have those passages away? I
love it. It can least have some good stuff there.
If they do it right, they do it right, and

(42:45):
I'm all for see. I want people to know I'm
all for a Lucas Marco romance. Yes, I'm all for it,
because it really can if they write it well, be
really well done. And Mark, because he's such a wild card.
If someone says in here, I agree with you out there,
it's gonna be really fun, a really good story.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, because I don't. I mean, I'm not gonna pay
Marco the same broad structures as Sidwell.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I just think right now he's driven a lot by
just the death of his mom and thinking that Sunny
needs to be the one to pay for that's coloring
a lot of his stuff. So like if you kind
of you know, get past all that stuff, uh you
know what's what you know, what kind of man is Marco?
But if then it just goes to Lucas's name with
Brad too, where it's like you're not gonna find somebody

(43:33):
that's you know, perfect. People are gonna messy, they're gonna
have their they're gonna bring baggage, so you gotta be
cool with it. To Lucas, I.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Would this is mild, just my own personal thing. I
just love Harry Shins much. Also, I would love for
Brad to be the one to save Lucas from Marco.
Like we file something really bad and it's Brad and
they can say it was right and I was right.
Like you think that Marco, that he's the band all
be all and all that you're blinded by liking him.

(44:01):
But like you said, everyone is gray. There's all shades
of gray, kicking resiment all all were all shades of gray,
you know, And I love that. I love that Sonny
was the one that was like, come on, Carly, you
know you can't saying He's like he's going to be
with him. He loves he loves the guy. Like what
were you say, like like sunny gain. That's why I

(44:21):
love studying them. They get it. But obviously Carl has
to run her mouth, of course, but but.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I enjoyed those bits that were it is Carly and
Sonny can just they can just all lay they can
lay it out to each other. I mean there's you know,
there's really no secrets between the two of them, and
so somebody's.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Just like, no, this is what you know. No, no, dude,
this is what it's like. Okay, because folks do want
I've seen online they want to Brad Britt's reveal, but
they have to have Brad come back, not just for
Britt though, yes, that's something with Lucas in the Summer,
I think, and I think it's just it's I mean, yeah,

(44:59):
the way they're writing, I mean, they could do it
that way, but I think the way they're writing it
has to be big enough where Lucas is there too,
because I love what I love where Britt walks out
and goes I'll say, how to your X for you?
Or so I say how, I'll say how your your
X for your yeah a lot? How do you outside?

(45:21):
Because I'll say how do your exports? Like that? That
made me laugh. I'mould say people get people are saying
or everybody saying Brad. They like my thing about Brad
saving Lucas. I was saying, it's it's kind of they
keep mentioning him as a thing. I'm like, and he's
never gone for good. You know, he always comes back
on the show at some point.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, I feel like, you know he will be back
for next years Nurses Ball, And if they go back
to a May kind of deal like they've done in
the past for the Nurse the Ball, then I could
feel as kind of putting set the wheels of motion
that he would be showing up around that time.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Would be funny if if Brawns when he shot Drew,
would that be crazy?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
H I wonder like, what, but what would you put
his motivation for? Because he got his payday from Drew?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
He like him. I don't. I'm just under say it's
can't fun He kin't funny. Just I mean, does that
mean he's somebody of he's somebody of the significance, you know,
or miss wooed shot. But she would kill I think
she would kill him because where's our Selena? Where's Aelena?
Wo mis sir? But yeah, Bro always comes back, you

(46:28):
guys always comes back. I thought I feeling help me
back at some point.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And what is nice about this exit as opposed to
him going to prison is like, you know, he's going
to be kind of at the bottom coming back from
prison and get it getting back into the show. But
now that he left with a million bucks in his pocket, uh,
seemingly free of you know, immediate ties to Selena, I
will be the show is kind of open to kind
of doing a big move with him when he comes back.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Now it's crazy, is I didn't see I didn't see
this coming, but I knew it was that he was.
We knew that Dalton was for not this earth, but
to plant them in Laura's car. Didn't expect that at all.
And the fact that she calls she called Sonny. You

(47:19):
saw her phone. She had a lot of numbers in
the people's names, a lot of peoples in there, and
she was first, well, first she called what's what's her name?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
First Alexis. I mean she thought Kevin for a hot
but you're in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
What was he gonna do? But the address for Kevin
was addressed, So then yeah, so she called Alexis. Lexis
was busy. She was a little busy, and she's scrolling
and scrolling, she's slowly and then she got she got
to Sonny, but first Nathan showed up. I knew that

(47:54):
Nathan's not gonna call Nathan.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Knew that, all right. I mean maybe it's me just
being too particular. Yes, uh, I want to just get
your reactions to Laura opening the trunk, like like we
all know what our trunks look like, even though we
will spend a lot of time in there. But for
her to be going like this is just what's all

(48:17):
this stuff? And the like that is your trunk, girl,
you know what's in your trunk?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I'll say this, Frank, I get busy, and I you know,
I don't always remember what's in there all the time,
and you know I could, you know, I'm running around
doing twenty different things, high kicking riz ANDHEIMERMI so maybe
I don't remember how messy it was. I mean, I'm

(48:42):
a mayor. I got things with my grandson. I mean,
I don't know, I got lots off going on. Get
out of here.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
That that was that drove me crazy. I'm so messy
because it's so messy.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I was like, get out of here. That's dumb.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
And then pull back and we see uh all in there,
you know, eyes wide open, not moving, and she goes
in and checks the pulse, like, come on, got to
do that. You don't gotta do that. The first thing
is like you come across a crime scene, you don't touch.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Anything, and that's what you touch the body. So I
just I just I didn't mind. I didn't mind any
of that. I'm not seeing a great job. I don't
mind your And when next time you see a dead
body freaking you're trying, I want to see how you're
gonna act.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
And then also I just want to do to check
with you. As much as Genie Frants is a spectacular
uh and I you know, and I'm enjoying all the
stuff that you're doing. Given Laura's just you know, I
know she's not you know, her history with Luke, her
history with Cassadines versitory. With all this, like her freaking
out over the dead body, it seemed a little too much.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
For me, Like, I mean, I know, I'll concede a
little bit on that. Yes, not her first dead body, No,
but she was a shock though I was, well, see
I looked at it this way. She was more in
shocked that it was Dalton that was dead in her car.
I think she was really freaking out about that. That's

(50:16):
kind of where I'm going with that, Frank, because I
must say, it's not the first time you're on the
roanokel Ice Princess, all this stuff. You've seen some ship
I have, I have. I was thinking it's because it's Dalton.
So I'm she's really freaking out about it because it's
connected to her. Like he said, it's a domino effect. See,

(50:37):
if they think they do this, they'll start thinking this this.
You know, it's it's a whole thing. It's clear, it's
clearly a setup. Clearly. Now the question will be can
Lauren live with this? That would be the question because
she's she is kind of a good girl deep inside, right,
She's wants to do the right thing. But I just
love her because now it's giving her some more stuff.

(50:58):
I mean, like she made me, she got it, she
got it, But I just I just think that it's
it's it's giving Laura some more layers now because now
she's hiding her body. And you know she didn't do it,
she didn't kill him, but they know it's just they
know it's an obvious setup. It's an obvious setup. But

(51:22):
I wouldn't try. I'm sorry, but it's like they should.
She should have told the police. I don't trust the PCBD.
You know, I'm wearing a sure right now. I don't
trust PCBD. I don't trust all that people have gone it.
They rested me all for lesser than that. I mean,
so you found later it was in their phone. So
I don't, I don't. I'm sorry, but Laura, I'm team Laura.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Well, as an audience, you're still not sure about Nathan.
So even though Laura doesn't know that, right, but who
knows where Nathan falls and all this? So uh yeah,
so I I don't know. I mean you would seem
that he would. I mean, the way he handled the
recording with Danny and Charlotte, that would be Nathan, But

(52:02):
who knows, Like if it be do the pulling her over.
I think maybe it would be different.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yes, I agree with that. I again, and that's the
one thing that I think you and I both agree with. Frank.
I need to know something about Nathan. I didn't. I
need I need I need something. I need something. I
need a clue at this point, I need a clue
because I said, now we got we kind of got
brit story. So I don't think brid's part of the

(52:28):
Nathan thing at all. I don't think she's part of that.
I agree, So please list so now we got her,
we got a little bit of her story, Please give
us something about him, give us an inkling. Is it
really him or I manufactured him somebody else with a
fan memories? And I'm really curious about.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
That because it feels like the show is going the round. Now,
we're just gonna make you think it's just Nathan, back
back back, until at some point they're gonna go like, surprise,
this is what's different about Nathan, right. But I feel
like it's not going to be successful because so many
of us are already soap fans who are used to
this sort of trope. So we're just we're not really

(53:09):
buying in, Well, we're constantly wondering, like, what's the deal
with Nathan? What's the deal with Nathan? Nobody's there going like, ugh,
it's great to have Nathan back and he is there
is nothing wrong and nothing's ever gonna happen. Like viewers
are too smart, They're they're knowing something's up. So I
feel like the longer, I don't think James's going to
get the payath that they want, right, but kind of

(53:29):
keeping it from the audience. So it's like, you might
as well let the audience in even if you're not
letting the characters in. Whatever, what's the deal with Nathan?
And then the fud is like oh for the viewer
is like when are the people in the show going
to find out the stuff that we know? Like, whoa man?
What are they going to find out? Nathan? Is this
or Nathan's that? I think I feel like the show

(53:49):
would be better, So maybe going that route than pretending
like oh, everything's gone with Nathan.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
They agree and made the chat anymore Nathan backstory. I
want to say, I think anything's a plant. I know,
I just you know, if for me, I kind of
like this because it's just announced another fantastical story that's
tied to her grandson, tied to Sonny. It's just it's
just more and more Genie, and I just think it's

(54:17):
just kind of like now gives something else to play
it on, because it's always a problem with these older
actors when we come talk to yous all the time
on the younger set. So now she has her own storyline.
I kind of feel like she has her own but
she's had to start a being mayor in something whole election.
But this is like, this is now something serious, So
I'm kind of like, this is good. You know, I

(54:37):
weren't more short the scenes with Nathan. Well, we haven't
got there yet.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
There, but I what we talked about too, it's like,
is it better, what's better for Laura that she wins
or loses the election? Like, well, yeah, this is definitely
better her bring there with all this.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Is anything and well, Sheriff Stephen says, Laura's a woman
than she was now, and she's a different woman now
than she was with Luke. That's possible on some level.
A few points on that I love anything that wipes
the smirk off Drew's face and nothing more. Says that

(55:14):
when you're to her right there and he finds out
she is mayor yet it just makes you laugh. It
makes me so happy. Is it just because he's just like, what,
like what? I love it, love it.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And it's just such a like an unforced error for Drew.
It's like, there was no reason for you to go
to Laura's office and attack. You just wanted to ask
and do that.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Your acceptance speech, your endorsement of Ezra, because I know
I ain't doing that and accounts aren't even done yet,
so calm down. So I just why I loved it.
He's so yeah, I tell you, he's like Cyrus or No,
doesn't read the room, does whatever, think you do, just
whatever he wants. He doesn't care. He has no shame,

(55:59):
not at all. So I love it.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I mean him to say that there's no difference between
himself and Laura. Yeah yeah, I was like I disagree
with that as well.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
That's his whole ego, that's his ego, Ezra. It's hilarious.
Oh homeboy chewed the scenery. Dani Collsgrove is chewing. I mean,
he must be full because he is chewing the scenery.
And I mean and like I said, freaking I've always
enjoyed his little piece of shooter of scenery chewing chewing.
So when he waltzed on in and it was like

(56:29):
an upset and made me laugh. I mean he I mean,
it's I kind of him and just send them. We
haven't got some. We haven't got some that stuff yet either.
And then him and just sitting like, come on, girl,
you know, let's go. And he's like, he's just like,
I'll double whatever whatever he's paying. Okay, I mean, but
I but he I give dan I don't mind a
fun cheesy side character. I just I love it. I

(56:52):
don't mind. And to me, he's on just enough, so
not too much. He's on just enough and he works
his scene. So Danan Crossgrove was with a fan anyway,
I mean, and Lord's like, you're a bozo And she
just looked like does she have a cons to right yourself?
And she says, I loved it. I just think it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I liked at the end she pretty much just gives
a gives him the dead zelbeam of slamming the door.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yes, yes, I love it. I just love it. I
think it's she's like He's like, and I was like,
that's right, girl. She's like it's hilarious and also, yes,
folks a e seven nine eighty eight, I am team
just Sinda. This actress is a great fine. You guys
told me her name before. Tell me her name again, folks,

(57:41):
I want to say her name out loud and chat.
Tell me your name. I've got her name already. She's
good and you know, and her and Michael, I see
chemistry and I and I love how she's interacted with everybody.
She's she's Ezra. She's like, he's no friends. Okay, I
can handle this, Like you know, it's just he's like,
don't lose my number. But you know he's not. It's

(58:03):
kind of stopped off. I was. I was laughing so hard.
I loved it. But she's pretty good. She's I'm like her.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I would like her to stick her and I think
she's got a lot of potential on the show, so
you know, like, let's let's stick her with I mean, Michael,
there's nothing she works great with Michael, with a lot
of people, but there's really nobody else. So she fits
a need on the show right now. Uh, And she's
got a lot of history, at least you know in

(58:34):
her backstory that that could be great potential storylines.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah, I think so. Oh, and folks, there's a corner
of the internet. I'd remind some folks Michael and Brooklyn
are blood related. Alright, it's all chemistry. I'm like, they're

(58:58):
blood related. So I said, not blood, their blood related.
He is a J's son who's a quartermain from Alan.
She is Ned's daughter who's a quartermain from almost Jane,
Elliott from Tracy. Tracy and Allen are brother and their cousins.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Not kissing.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Not kissing cousins. Yes, god, he like did it once,
but most shows don't do that. So I was thinking,
you know, Rory's just hot, so he gots he has
he has kills everybody. So you guys love this. So
I'm just like, you know, no, no, no, Michael and
Rory are good with Jacinda and then that going that direction,
they're good, They're they're like that. Mike Frank just said,

(59:39):
there is actually real good potential with this coupling. So
I I I'm I'm I'm team Desinda and Michael.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Part of it is when I mean we see how
they handle their first little minor obstacle when she says, oops,
I really was lying to you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I was with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
The congressman of the night that Drew got shot. Yeah,
when that gets revealed because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
He was all drunk and Chase like, I'm a drink
with you. Sure that was kind of funny. It was
like the election was rigged and he was just playing
right into his ego, his drunk ego. So I was like,
so I go, okay, Gus, stop for a second. It's
like Jimmy, Lee and Celia. They weren't first or second
these people, and they aren't first because like Cody and Sasha,

(01:00:30):
they're like second cousin. It doesn't matter. There's there's still
within the three cousin range. There's still it's still weird
and like it's still I mean, I just I don't
want any of my cousins, sorry, second or third, I
don't want any of them my cousins. I'm like, you
need your cousins rank tract to any of your cousins? No, yeah,

(01:00:50):
like I'm not, they're my cousins. I have nothing for them.
But anyway, just digress. But I think, yeah, so when
Chase coaching, but I have found a way. But again,
alexis telling him what does that mean in the long run,
but you know you have to mean and again it's
still he said, it's all this stuff. So I think

(01:01:15):
Chase is going to ruin his job.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, because you don't have so many times that Alexis
says once again, I have to tell you, uh, you know,
until you don't ever say that so many times without
it actually happening.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
It's gonna happenings gonna happen. He's really and I really do,
I really do believe I could be wrong the way
they're writing it. He's not into Willow romantically just yet.
I think it's purely he just really wants to exonerate her.
But I think she's really something for him a little
bit again. Yes, and she saw Alexis too. She came

(01:01:53):
out and saw we had a little quick, a little
scene with her Alexis. So she wants more active, she said,
roll in her her and her stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Do you buy the story that she told Alexis? Are
you going like all right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I could could, I could rule her out as a suspect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
She said, it's not really that good. Is It's like
she says, well, you know, Alex's of course got a
little higher but I don't think that's the truth. And
I don't know. If Willow shot you, that'd be a
great twist. And if she did shoot Drew, Drew would
be Juw's face. Then Drew would be like he was

(01:02:35):
so devastated that whether and I feel like it's a
split personality thing or a blackout thing. I feel like
that's what it is for Willow. Same with the Daisy stuff.
I think I think something's going on with her. And
to me, I would buy Dreulo Willow as the one Judy,

(01:02:55):
Oh my god, can's shooting Drew and she would know
how to kill him, but just just shooting him. I
can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I mean, we're getting to the point where we can't
go too much further out without it becoming way less interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
So they're really going porsiche. They've really they've dropped Curtis. Basically,
they're not really doing anything with Curtis. Alexis is off
the hook, apparently Carly is to I guess they got
off they do with Carly. I think I think it's
down to somebody not mentioned, or it's going to be Willow,

(01:03:33):
Michael pors total motive she was. Folks don't forget. She
was tired of the ass. After a while, she was
just like, Okay, I'm done with this ship. She was
tired of all the black mainly kept doing totally. I
think I think she's she's a possibility. I only she
did it, but I think she's a possibility, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And if you want to throw in Scout, Scout, No.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
She's off she's off camera as the time, but that
could be something. But I really think they're really they're
really cutting out a lot of people now. They're making
it just like you said, very narrow, which is fine,
that's fine. Nebody in the world. I mean, y'all people
want to shoot them. I don't anybody in the world involved.
So but I think now and having trinah, God, maybe
I should turn the papers in, you know, we got

(01:04:23):
really we should tell me have papers. I can't make
sure Mom look guilty. Yeah, I mean, it's like it's
and that's what I'm saying. And yesterday, that's where I'm going.
Porscha will be pregnant. Something's gonna come out to trial.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Uh, there you go, and there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
You go. Porsche wants to get you. She was don't
lets not forget. She was sick of Drew's mess. She's
over it, and he's just so upset. She went to curse.
She was tied to his mess too. You're like, okay, kids,
remember we were laughing about it. Realized you're just like, okay,
either you want me or you don't. I'm done. She's like,
just like she was over that. She was like, everybody
has some seats please. She was done. She was like,

(01:05:04):
don't everybody. She was I kind of like that portion.
She was kind of just I'm just done. But again,
she's her own worst nightmare because she's pregnant. It could
be either one and she's not telling either one anything
her face once.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Again for sure, but but she will try to justify exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
She's the worst enemy. Oh my god. She's like Nina.
They they they they caused their own problems. It's like
even though they're trying or whatever, they're always trying to
like be good to it whatever. But you're cause I mean,
Kurd of smile when he got that picture, but he
left the room and he was like he really got excited.

(01:05:55):
Why are you doing this to him? Girl? It's not fair.
I really felt bad for him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
I saw you Jordan kissing it's like, all right, sure,
whatever that was way after you guys, you and Isaiah
got your.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Freak exactly and you're what's your love cabinet? Second time? Hello,
I'm just like, yeah, it was her birthday this week,
and it was also Rory Gibson's birthday to this week's
their birthday to Rory, it's a brook Curry place, ports.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
And just you know, just the general stuff that you
see on on social media. It seems like the fans
are really all behind the recast of Michael and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Oh my god, the fans you guys at home, seventy
three people in here, you guys love Michael the recast.
I've not seen anything negative so far. If there's negative stuff,
I ever seen it. Yeah, I have not. That that's rare.
That is totally rare. And everybody said, chat, he's hot,
he is hot. That's true. But so far, I've not
seen any negativity about his actual recast story. I've heard

(01:06:58):
things here and there, but they're but they are. They're
liking the recast, and so I love that. I mean
because Chad Duwell was a major recast himself. It was
on for so long. Yeah, and this and I think
because of their darker hair or brooding looks or whatever.
It's really working for this newer Michael. And I love

(01:07:19):
when sudden he goes. People change and you know sometimes
you know in other ways, and she's like you talking
about Michael, aren't you? And they're looking at Michael because
he's been through hell hell okay, I mean I loved
I love when when again, when Sunday's a force of reason,
you gotta run too, when he's like just so he's
telling the truth, It's like, yeah, there is something, there

(01:07:40):
is something there, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
And then even Jason of the Week two uh talking
to Britt about the history with Michael and how that plays,
how he doesn't want to do anything with Dandy and
the whole that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That was great. I mean, I like the fact that
that he's getting more sensitive these days and more talkative
and with a exs being involved. I love that her
grandson and how they and when they bring up Sam,
there's still evokes the memory of how she was and
she was all about in your face, you know, the
I was gonna tell you, she didn't care. And so

(01:08:14):
when Dany says, my mom would want me to do this,
they did. I can I can disagree. They're like, you're right, Yeah,
you're right, Like that's she she would have you know again,
I love the kids are all just they're all representing
their families well, and then all the kids are kind
of representing who they come from very well by by.

(01:08:36):
But yes, but Rory, I write somebody to chat Rory.
It's awesome. Laura's gratt love Rory, like I like Rory. Yeah,
it's it's sunny. So Anty thinks Sonny thinks Michael's to
shoot her. I don't think from him. I think I
don't think he thinks that. I think I think he
thinks he could be I love he could take over

(01:08:56):
if Sonny retires. Well, if he could, he ties to
his corintha side more. Yeah, I guess, but he's been
but he's walking a good line of being a quarter
main too. The only thing I about asking about Ned
and just being there from being there for them Sam Jason,
you know, doing back and forth too. He's really you know,
he's I love a few weeks ago already told him
when he had this speech. He's like, you know, I

(01:09:17):
kind of I kind of dropped them, you know, but
now they see them. It was his family. This is
this is my family, this is our family. So I
kind of like that. The teen scenes are excelling. Chase
was the motor before be conversation with Now, Yes, he
had another thing. That was another one. He was very
much with Janelle where Janelle, he was very much into
that too. I forgot about that. Yes, he was trying

(01:09:41):
to get her. Also, Yeah, he's trying to get her.
There was a whole their story, but he had it.
But that's what he was. I forgot he was with
Mail before. That's the whole thing. Uh, you can call
it Janelle. There's Janelle. Best recast ever. Yeah, I know,
I mean it's it's good. I mean I have non
I said, I've not seen any negativity on the recasts itself.

(01:10:04):
So cheers to Rory. You know, we had him on
our show and it was a big hit for us.
Rory Gibson any from the Emmys is our number one interview.
It's already in the thousands. So people love them from
Rory Gibson, they do. They love them. Like I said,
so a birthday, go to Rory Gibson birthday. It's his birthday.
So all right, talked about ready so you yes, my

(01:10:25):
friend and uh but yes, people are you know, the
show is seeing of Rory to be a lead character. Yeah,
I hope, so that's the next and that's the next generation.
So we hope that that's the that's the goal, right,
the new Michael is my favorite Michael. Yeah, they agree
with you, Frank, there's everybody just yeah, we should mean
that this whole thing is should lead to the next ones,

(01:10:46):
like like Brooklyn Michael Chase, that that age group should
be elevating up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Yes, you know stuff, Yeah, I mean that's you know, yeah,
we've all no generational and so you want to see
the passing of the baton so to speak. Yes, that's
so much in a way that it's it's that fine
line of wanting to pass the baton to the next
generation but never marginalizing the you know, the prior generation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yes, it should always be multi generation at best, right,
because we still want Jane Elliott on screen, we still
want Michae Lee Knight on screen, we still want Genie
Francis song. We want them on screen. But we should
be we should be preparing that next middle the thirties
and forty year old basically going as we should be

(01:11:41):
doing the team twenty sets. It should be a nice
they have kids kids, but we should you should have
the three layers kind of. I always use Dallas an example.
But there was still Miss Ellie and Clayton, and you know,
there's there's still that older set. But then there was
the there was it was j R. Bobby Ray Ray

(01:12:02):
and the women. They were the middle set. They have
the other sitting they have, but they had Lucy kind out.
They don't do with her that much, but there was still,
you know, in the same with Dynasty, you had Blake,
Alexis and Crystal, when you had Steven Adam Aman. There's
a whole there should be, but it should be several
sets going at the same time, so you have both

(01:12:22):
going on because you want you kind of want that,
you know more JPS, Well, you don't be a frank
agree that I think we are. I think we are
getting more. I think it's I think we are getting
more because he's moving to America, so I think I
think we are getting more of him. I don't know
how much. I don't know that. I don't know what
his contract is, but we are getting work. I think
we're gona get more of him. It's again he's another

(01:12:43):
one who's just like the best. I want to see
Michael's reaction to Josh Been. There's a lot, I mean,
there's a lot of people. When they filed she the
WSP's crazy and having boded her kissing around, I thought
they said they couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
It's a forbidden fruit. Uh, James, you know you can't
stay away. You can't help the heart once with the
once folks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
If they separated me and Frank, it's the same thing
I'd find any way. I could be with Frank anyway,
you know what, we'd be some allie smoochin behind some
I know, some trash bands or whatever over the corner.
So I was like, Okay, to me, it's just nothing.
I didn't care for them. It's nothing for him anyway,
So I didn't. I mean, I just I have no

(01:13:26):
feeling for against Vaughan. I just I don't really care
about him that much.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
It was weird that Vaughn, who I thought his deal
was that he was gonna tail Dalton right after he
got the bar, comes back so early to hook up
with the smack round with Joss. They smashed lips because
it's like we we know he's got to he's got
a lab I guess just didn't pass that information. Did
him a chance to pass that info to Vaughan, But
you would think, like, hey, follow him because maybe he's

(01:13:53):
going back to the lab or at the very least
we would have saw that, Oh he went to Spoon Island.
So when stuff starts coming, you're like, oh, Dalton's missing, Like, well,
least we saw you was at Spoon Island. That can
that couldn't have ended?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Well no, so, but I don't know that. I know
they're doing so vastre Frisco's son. That's pretty funny. Actually,
Uh the hair they have, the hair, I'll guartee Mike
Thomas the other hair, oh Man having another It's like, yeah,
oh great, Josh's relationship with Vaughn will last long as

(01:14:27):
Jack and Carnig. Well, well it's already it is already,
so to speak. And that's that's kind of thing. Is
that uh giant Carly. I mean, I am very christy
how they go. I'm very curious how to see how
this this works out, because I'm like, she can't do
it for long, she can't do it forever. He's gonna
want he's gonna want some vagina. That's gonna happens. He's
gonna he's gonna want it. It's gonna have to give

(01:14:48):
it up. You got to give it up. Give it up, girl.
But you know that she doesn't. He'll know something wrong. Yeah,
you don't have to just have a Grenn and Barrett
later and think of England or whatever. Just you gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
That's what do you make sure you just the lights
are off?

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about face expressions or anything. Bag
It's fine. But the whole point is that she wants
to do something because he gonna notice there's something wrong.
She has to really be careful and he's really I mean,
and the sad part is he really is into her.
That's that he really does care about her and stuff.
But she kissed. She wants her girl out of there

(01:15:27):
quick fast, in a hurry.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
So and she's like, yeah, I'll do anything for my kids.
I'm all now, oh they did they did mention Tracy.
So right now, Jane Elliott and you guys, we're asking
for Nola hues her on vacation. On the vacation, that's
why there's no Anna. She'll be back and told Tracy.
But they mentioned Tracy, or they're watching the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(01:15:51):
That's my team. Or they're playing Detroit. Okay, that's my
team number one AFC North. Excuse you about that? Yes,
I'm mad. I'm mad NFL would have returned back to
the Dad and man, we don't need him. I forgot

(01:16:11):
to say I saw Steelers. I thought I was saying,
oh but Jaden, and yeah, they're they're on hiatus right now,
so in real life, so they'll be back. But they
mentioned they mentioned that Tracy. Then that Brooklyn's lying to her.
That's what was. That was a funny scene too, when
she's talking to Michael about house is gonna react. They

(01:16:32):
know Tracy, so it's like, but they want her to
have her time off. So that's why that that was.
I'm glad they again freak. And I always say, just
gi us a little scene. I need a huge thing.
Just give me a little something to explain something away.
We're good, yeah, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Oh for for sure. And I mean you know what,
whatever she does come back, it'll be great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Yeah'll be fine. We're good. Do you be say anything?

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Uh no, I mean I feel like we're not really
getting any movement on. And he started Drew pay back
until Tracy comes back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Yeah, I think right now, It's just he's just reacting
and stuff. The election was every thing measure c path
didn't pass, so so so Laura and Sunny won basically
they won. So you're right, I guess we're gonna have
to see Drew and Sidwell start talking. I guess again
and figuring out what they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I mean, always great to see a flashback, Saidwell, reminding
Drew what what the what the deal really is?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Remember, you will not summon me, I will summon you.
I was like, that's right, that's right, Carlow. He's a bomb.
I love him. So I was like, you do you
tell him? And you was? He was, he was shious
but he told them. They was like, yeah, you will
not be summoning me ever again. I will call you
and I need to see you. That's right, kids, he said,
I'm writing the show. He said, I'm running the show.

(01:17:51):
That's right. He's had whatever in charge. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
The thing I wonder about, like with Dalton's body, is
it better for Dalton's body to completely disappear or is
it better just for them to try to strip all
sort of maybe possible DNA that would or evident or
anything that would contact evidence that would tie it to
lure or her car and have Doll's body appear somewhere

(01:18:15):
else randomly in Port Charles.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
So it seems like some people in chat were saying
they should just call the police because it's because they
would they would know that it's a setup. Obviously, that's
that's what people will sort of chat claim. I fe
like the PCBD is not that smart, so I wouldn't
trust PCVD to save my life. I would not trust them.
So I'm I'm glad they're handling themselves. But my but

(01:18:40):
my thing is with you, with like kind of similar
to you, is if he disappears, how they're going to
explain it for the trial or the set up so
that the kids are are off. They have to be
they really, they can't really go on without him.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
I mean, he's the one that wanted to charge his pressed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
So I'm thinking with him, but he forgot that he's
not just missing, that he's that he's gone. I'm just
stressed what they're gonna say to that. They're gonna send
a message somewhere that he left town or whatever, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
What's more, you know, for Laura. I mean, I know
Laura's like, hey, I slapped him on camera and all
that stuff, and I talked harshly towards him, so she
worries that that It's like, oh, that's just a great
motivation for me to want him dead. But if he's missing,
missing as opposed to a body completely cleaned of evidence
and just finding somewhere else in portraals, which is more damning,

(01:19:37):
possibly to Laura. And I don't know, I feel like
having the body because it's the murder weapon we know
is Sidwell's, uh So, I mean I feel like it's
that puts the ball back in Sidwell's court. If the
body just shows up somewhere else randomly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I know we're gonna find out. I mean literally just
all happened on Friday, so we don't we all know,
just clean everything up, detail the car. We have no
idea how he's going, We have no idea what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
I mean, I feel like Laura loses it if it's hidden.
If if the body is just clean of evidence and
deposited somewhere else, then she's not freaking out as much
because she didn't know she didn't kill him. She knows
what was said with so uh. I don't know, but
I do like that at least that she's not wondering

(01:20:22):
that her I don't know. Do you feel like it
took her too long to figure out like that, make
that civil connection that she needed Sundy there to kind
of talk her through it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I'm playing, I'm playing in ass. To answer your question,
I'm playing in ass. She's just thrown off. She's thrown off.
She was on top of her own game. Sonny calmed
her down and he talked about and he came to
and he both kind came to the inclusion, yes, I
am being set up, just a little rattled.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Like him showing up, hey, mayor, Oh yeah you know. No, no, Nathan,
it's fine. I got to proved to the mayor. I
can change a tire.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Yeah I know. Then when he goes, we can change together,
which was all when Sunny set up. No, no, we
got it. We don't need you, We got it. What
are you saying I need to change a tire. We
don't need that at all. That was funny. I was like, well,
well I think that is or anything, and I think

(01:21:22):
we did it. Kids. We won't be here next week
it's Thanksgiving, I'll be I'll be laying down eating game hands.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
So every year they will be being suspended, lowered into
your mouth as you just lay back at you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
I didn't you. That's all I gotta do. I don't
like to exert any energy this next weekend. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Well, Jake Jr. I two things on one, I'm incredibly
thankful to you and for you for all that you do. Uh.
And then also thankful for everybody that wants to join
us here, whether it's on Sundays or listening later.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I agree. I agree with Frank. You know, you know
I love you very much of course ten years running.
And I'm thinking for all of you guys who do
come back and watch us, because someone tried to shade
me we don't take time off. Well that's you bitches.
We take time off sometimes, but we're very thankful you
guys come back and watch us. I mean, these numbers
are amazing and I want and I'm also thankful to

(01:22:21):
the audio listeners. I want to give that because you guys,
we get thousands of downloads from you guys every week.
So I don't want to I don't want to forget
you guys. You guys usually tune in. These are to
tune in Monday mornings. You say, a lot of times
they listen on their way to work or whatever. So
we're glad. We're glad, you're glad that you listen to
us like our voices. Apparently they're not too bad because see,

(01:22:42):
I think it's fraks for what you like the most.
It's finally get it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Two dudes talk.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
That's it, kids. So we are thankful for you all,
of course, for this, and I also want to thank you,
guys all for your support of me as where the
things I'm going through. I am, I'm this week, my
mother is stable. This week, I'm stable. We are. We're
trying to work things out, so we are. You know,
I'm an old bull. I'll be up and be pushing
through uh as long as I can up that hill.

(01:23:09):
So that's what we're gonna do. But we love you guys,
and have a good whatever you decide, whatever this is
you decided to do next week, enjoy yourselves and we'll
see you a couple weeks at least December. And when
should I say that loud?

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Seventh? December seventh, a day to remember.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Oh oh my god, that's right. Let's talk about Pearl
Harbor to the same time. Come now, so we love
you guys. Bye.
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