Week ending 12/5/25 Dogs For Everyone!

Frank and James talk General Hospital!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Exactly. You get a dog, and you get a dog,
and you get a dog or a turkey. Hi, everybody
walking onto g swet spotlight. I'm James, not junior, and
my coach is not many, he's Major Frank ran Hi. Everybody,
we're here. We're back. Yes, they're back, bitches. To talk
about General Hospital, there was that one week. It was

(00:26):
a couple of episodes. I only have like one giant comment.
We'll talk about that. But this week, I actually really
enjoyed this week. There were a lot of surprises, folks,
they really they really well. I mean, were you like
to stortize it that there's a lot of surprises. I
was very, very pleasantly surprised, and then yet a couple
of things that didn't change at all the same time.

(00:50):
Was gonna say, but before we started, yes, we did
the Y and R and Bold is one big show,
so don't look forward separately. It was the last decision.
We did this one big show. We did it for
an hour and a half. It's out now. But if
you're a Bold fan, you can go to Bold and
Beautiful and find it. If you're a wind Our fan,
you white. So it's on both platforms, but it's just

(01:12):
one big show. And we went back and forth. So
it wasn't just didn't we didn't do it like before.
It was like why Our First? And Bold we went
we hate this storyline on Bold First. We hate the storyline.
Why Our First? We like, That's what we did. Frank,
you appreciate that show. It's very much a very interesting
show for us. You love the show, Stafford, but hate
a storyline, you know, the kind of thing. So we

(01:33):
talked about all that that's out now. That was me,
Amanda Russ and Tammy dot Govea. Candace mac was on assignments.
You can join us and because of that, Tomorrow nights
for the first time at seven pm Pacific, eight pm Mountain,
nine pm Central, and ten pm Eastern, we're doing our

(01:54):
first evening Beyond the Gates after show with Candas Mack
and matter Ess, matter Rest and me in the Voice
of God was off camera commenting, Yeah, so let's find
out how to get into gates this week because it's nighttime.
They always start out, Frank, with the how they got
into the gates as as the thing, so it's funny

(02:16):
what they come up with. But now it's nighttime, so
how to get in the gates at nighttime. Will Amanda
flash your boobs again? Or it will be something totally different.
We have no idea. Find out tomorrow live here on
j l J Media YouTube. Be there at B Square. Yes,
let's bring that back, Frank, let's bring that back. Keep

(02:36):
in touch, don't change, Yeah, all that so? Yeah, so
then fortunaten Yet we all a good time because we
can talk all kind of stuff. It's nighttime, we can
say all kind of stuff. Why we say anyway at daytime? Frank, No,
that's Frank. Tony Moore my other mother and male relationship
Tony More twenty more will be on audition days. He's back.
So today's today at three o'clock on their channel, and

(02:59):
the talk about Peacock's award winning number one hitsap opera
Days of Our Lives as they celebrate sixty years on
the air. It's kind of crazy, sixty years. So they're
joining you other ones, so they'll be on there today.
Here's the schedule. Next week, we're here and we're here
on the twenty first. That's it forever. It's kidding, but

(03:23):
that's it. That's we start our We start our eleventh
season in January. Well, if you know more about that
as that time comes up. But at the end of
the year, Frank, I can't believe that. I can't believe that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Flies when you're just making fun of and loving.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So I have to ask you for I asked the
other ask the ladies today, ask you does a dead inside,
cold hearted, cynical man like yourself celebrate the holidays?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Uh? The fact that I paused, Yeah, I know, I'm
like an indication. I mean I celebrate by not by
taking the day off. But we are not a family
that that enjoys turkey, which which I'm thankful for. Yeah,

(04:23):
so you know, so no, we you know. I was
spent with the you know, my my two favorite people,
I work with my daughter, and we enjoyed some some
delicious homemade food and some football. So yes, there you go. So, uh,
you know what I got on mind? Being usually growing up,
I was I enjoyed like Christmas was like a day

(04:45):
I'd rather be by myself and just go to movies
all day. Was never I was never huge into the
family aspect of the holidays. But now you know that
I have my own little my own little unit. We
have our we're kind of building our own sort of tradition.
So it's you know, it's not.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Too bad so doing anything for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
H they are going up to see her Eric's parents,
so I will be by myself down here, which means
this maybe some movies for me.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Anything coming up, that's good.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's a new there's a new Avatar film. Oh yeah,
three hours and ten minutes. I know, But I feel
like it's if you're if I'm only going to see
that film one time, then I should see it on
the screen in three D the way Jane's Cameron wants
you to see it. But that's that is a that
is a mythology and a franchise. That is I will

(05:41):
watch it and then I am just I will forget
about it until the next one comes out. For me,
it doesn't have any stickiness to it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, sounds like fun, frank, No, no, no, no, that's
when missus James Junior holidays.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's a it's a lot, yes, a lot of fun
and frivolity.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I am already I love that word. I'm already. I
have two trees, three trees, so I just I'm decorating
them all. I've already have a you can't see it
because I have to have a cover because I'm mess
right now. But I have been decorating outside my house
and inside I'm basically Christmas vacation. That's basically me. I'm
decorating everything everywhere all I want.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you Christalpher, I'm wrong? Is you do like mistletoe
like every two feet?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Just just about Yeah, So I'm making out with somebody
who's gonna be but somebody's somebody's gonna kissing and tongueing
me down at some point in my house. You could
in my house, breaking house, animals with dogs, cats, whatever,
Just bring up cover a good time, it doesn't matter.
So yes, missite everywhere. That's where misterste Road to be exact.

(06:54):
That's now, let's do that. Everybody. Happy holidays for some people.
I know it's a tough time for other people. You
got a good time, A said. She went to the
grove and saw Nick Carter. Oh nice, all right, I
know the grove in La. Yeah, grow up, La, folks,
grow upside of growing. It's a place in La. It's
movie theaters, shops, restaurants. It's right next to the farmers markets, you.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Know which is that is a great one too. Company.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I agree. I know, I to agree. I was there
not too long ago and had some dinned in and
one of the one of the places it's it's it's
the farm has been there like one hundred fifty years,
so it's been there forever. So the groves of this,
the newer edition I was saying the nineties, I think
they I was gone when they built it. I came
back home and they're like the growth and I went
to it.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But yeah, there's like the for people out here in
the West coast, in Pasady, Pasadena, in Glendale, there's a
Glendale Galleria splashed Americana, but that isn't not the same
vibe as as the grove and the farmers Market.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean it's but the grow. You can see stars there.
That's the whole thing you can release is a lot
of stars because next to Television City, which is CBS
and CBS, but a lot of stars are there. And
I've run into people there and then you know, that's
the Barge Noble that Sean Kane always has his book
events at that I do with him. It's a very
famous area. They have a fountain. Have you ever been
to Vegas? The Belagio based out. They have a mini

(08:21):
version sets some music in the middle. I go to
that Apple store. That's that's one. That's one of the
closest Apple stores to me. Is that one of the
one They had a beach, So I go to the
Apple store. Yeah, those are two. Because there's a lot
of Apple stores in LA. It's only a couple. Interesting, Yeah,
there's not a lot of them. And I know in
the valley. There's one in Central Sea Mall, I think too.
I think it's and then then the restaurant I think
in the valley, I don't. I don't know that any

(08:43):
in l A proper. I know there's there's not one.
There's not one down to LA or down there. So
the groves the area, I do I go that one?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
There is one in downtown l A.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Is it really? I don't know where?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Uh yeah, close to the theater that I was at.
A couple of go to see a show.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Here. I look look it up because that's another place
that's close to me I could go to.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So the parking is there horrible? So you're smarter going
over to the Farmers.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh well, the thing is about LA folks, Situations like
LA's is so huge it's just formally running around here,
try to get FLOWD to go to this coffee place
in k Town, and he's yelling me about the coffee,
about the parking, so I know it, Chris crappy, but
we can find parking somewhere. I just have good parking,
kar but we can find a place. So he's fighting

(09:36):
me on it right now. So I want to go.
It's a new place supposed to have African American art
run by some black folks. But it's the part of
Korea Town, so I want to, like, we like coffee
with like black people, so we want to go.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
But we're you now, a're telling me that Flo just
doesn't like art in general.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's like black people. I'm just kidding, just kid, don't
cut that out. Don't cut out anywhere. It's just it's
it's a parking space, which I again, Hollywood has horror park.
They all have horror parking. Crystal, Happy birthday, be lated,
Hey birthday to you. Yay yay. All right, I've done
any zooms in a while, which I will resume the zooms,

(10:16):
but I'm up soon, guys, so just stay tuned for that.
But Crystal, all your birthday to you. I toally thought
of you that.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Day, James. I will ask, because I know you have
many many fans who enjoy your zooms. What what are
the odds, the chances, the possibilities of the New Year's
Day zoom?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I know, I mean me and Full we usually do it.
We always talk about that. We're in talks. We see
what's going on. I mean, for me, it's been my
saturdays have been really busy. My friends are really busy
also with family stuff and just my own stuff and
my mother and all that. So I was I didn't
be able to do them. So I'm trying to find out.
I wonder something this this that either during that week too,

(10:58):
I'm trying. I'm trying to figure that out out. So
just stay tuned. Might just stay tuned. It's everything is everything.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Everybody's talking your your people are talking to his people, and.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
His people talking to those people, and then them people.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
And so on.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So we're talking about them, so you never know. Maybody
say every birthday the Crystal Folks super chapter are welcome,
of course, And I said, I just want to mention
before we start, I have a bunch of audio dramas
that at Christmas. Ye right, now sand is an alien
questioning Christmas, The House of Frost, the Quingles, Miss so Row,

(11:35):
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Tammy Flobo, Amanda, They're all They're all them Canvae. Check
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(11:56):
And also, so you guys know this, I have interviews
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I had to explain to somebody with vertical dramas, so
that means they are films. They fit on your phone,
that's what they called vertical. They're huge sometimes they get
up to a billion streams. It's crazy per show. So

(12:19):
I have one out now with Taylor Sheer. He's a
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folks just check those out. That's on my Hollywood Mini
Spotlight series. Check those audio and video and yes, Star
Games football is enjoyable. Yes, I agree with that. Ghostealers,

(12:44):
like I said, not that. Okay, let's get start a kid,
So I'm gonna I just want to mention. I think
the only thing I want to mention about the week
before because it was a shortened week and it was
and it was whatever my problem, folks, hey starting to

(13:04):
show off like this, but just the truth. I felt
the Thanksgiving episode was weak. I felt like it was
a total cop out. It wasn't as fun as it
used to be. And literally, Chase broke the curse, literally
kind of. He made that. The dinner was fine, but

(13:28):
them choosing not to eat it to incite the curse
to me was dumb. I almost wished the outback ate
the dinner. I was hoping that he did, but he
didn't because that would go in with like, I know,
they're trying to go for this. We're going to deliver
to the nurse's staff and the doctors because they're all
just like, they're so wonderful. It fell flat for me,

(13:51):
don't give a shit. Fell flat.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Uh, Frank, what do you think it's It's such a
fine line to walk with this because you know it
has now become a staple that they quartermans can't successfully
pull off a Thanksgiving. But the longer the longer you
keep running that, the more convoluted ways you have to

(14:13):
keep coming up for why they can't have it. And
sometimes the reasons have been great, and then there have
been Thanksgivings that have been clunkers for why they haven't
come together, like brother, but to take it this far,
to actually have the meal successfully done, and then to
have people freaking out, especially Brooklyn, that she's like, we
can't do it, we can't, Like this is ridiculous. You

(14:36):
are a grown woman. Just sit down and eat the food,
and them taking that to gh It's like the idea
that you can honor Monica, but nobody thinks to honor
Monica until that very last minute, like you would have.
You didn't have that thought about the hospital and Monica
and her traditions that she would make sure that her

(14:58):
staff were taking care of the hospital for you were
about to sit down and eat this meal that your
husband cooked. Ridiculous to me, right, so, you know, and
then we just get Tracy's you know, oh, I you
know I already ordered this ahead.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I just it just felt flat to me, I see
they're trying to do and felt, yes, I see Leo,
he was back. I also got about him and.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
The little gross Man, all right, just coming here taking
a g taking a Grosberg.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
They wanted brooking a wreck like a grown woman. They're
laughing when you said that.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's just it was just awful the way she was behaving.
I'm like, come on, you are ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
But he's start as You're right, there's not enough food
for fee everybody there, like it was. You said, Turkey
was not that big, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know. I mean, I would have been fine
with them having it was like, you know, the ghost
of minic ensuring one one successful Thanksgiving for them this year.
It would have been fine for me, and then you
can reset it next year, because the one thing is
it's like it kind of resets. That's great, you have
this one little grace period for this year, and then
next year we get back into the Shenanigans. Totally fine.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I agree with that. Love Gel and Geo and need bonding.
That was nice, but again it came, it could happen
any day. That didn't really do anything for me either.
But I'm glad it actually didn't go to waste. I
just I just thought I just thought it was just
it just it just fell flat for me, that's all.
It just wasn't There was some really good Thanksgiving episodes

(16:36):
back in the day, So I don't I don't mind.
I don't mind that gag happening, but like you said,
I need something good behind it.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I mean, and it would have made sense for
them to have the Malitia and having it be so
closely tied. It's where they have Monica dying in the show.
You know, having this things given GoF smoothly would have
been fine.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I say, I agree, And yes, I mentioning. Kevin came back,
Gary came back and I'm not happy though. That's all
the story. And then we got we got Ace. Why
is he blonde? I brought that up. Why why is
he blonde?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
You know, well, we're just saying right now he's he's
an early blonde, and then his true hair color will
start showing later, so yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Me and Nicholas are dark haired people.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It canceled each other.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Out, James, what happened to have my daughter, my granddaughter, Scarlette,
she's blonde? This and they we're like where I come from.
So yeah, I mean, I know what happens, but it's
just weird, weird casting.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
But let's get into Kevin, because I was jazzed to
see him there and then the show just adverted to
form and then just boots him from juicy parts of
the story.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
You guys, if you're not watching, we'll get to the
other stuff that's that's this week. But just from that
him he would be returning. I was glad. I was
because we were saying, like, I want if he's come back,
So I was glad to hear he was coming back.
So glad, so glad he was coming back. And Laura
needs him, you know, she needs she needs her man.

(18:24):
He's been he's been doing such phenomenal work behind the gates.
I'm just like seeing Kevin is almost like a backslide
in some way. So they immediately make him leave, which
made no sense, like why could he be there when
Sidwell came? Like why could he be there? Wait, we'll

(18:46):
get we'll get to that storyline in a second. But
I'm with I'm with Frank completely. There was there was
just some wasted opportunities that just made no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, because you know, we we all know his time
is going to be limited because he gotta get back
to be on the gates, so right, you gotta make
the most of it. And so at first I was like, oh, great,
we're not gonna play the game where Laura's gonna be
hesitant to say anything to him. She comes right out
and tells him, like this is great. I like that
Kevin is dialed in and he's he's getting sucked into
this fantastic and then up, I got a patient. I'm

(19:19):
like what when that would she said? Go answer that phone?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Like no no.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I loved it because it when I first and I
was like, no, no, no, you're more important. I'm standing here
for this, and like, great, we're establishing where Kevin is here.
He's not going anywhere. And then eventually he does go
like no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
But it was You're right. It was good that they again,
Joss been it's not been skipping on not wasting any
time on some storylines. So I'm glad that they just
like he knows everything, and I like the part where
he's just kind of like it's my fault because I
wasn't here blah, blah like, no, it's not your fault.
Was a good again once again, it was a good

(20:01):
bouncing off point for her, for her nothing so alone
in this because she actually could tell him everything and
we know that he will keep it between them. Yeah,
I know who did come and go see? He says,
a young person in trouble. He sudding had to see
a gh. I know, it was like it was just weird.
It was just weird.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
He was in Ireland, right, and so I guess he'd
been chatting with somebody while he was in Ireland. But
he made it like he was coming back to see Laura,
so not really to see Laura. He also just needed
help with this troubled person. But he's not telling the
lower of that part, right.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
So but it was nice to see him the thing
then and seeing Ace for a second, Okay, that was
that's fine. You know.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
The only thing is the bummer is like you, I
was excited and I would love for him to be
invested in this storyline, like a very great Get him
involved in the Sidwell stuff, get him involved with the
Laura and Sunny stuff. But you just know he's not
going to be around. And then now it's going to
be tough to see whatever lame excuse that g H

(21:07):
is gonna come up to why Kevin has to leave town.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I now, it's it's it's it's the ned tobacco. It's
just it's hard because good for the actors, they got
double jobs. But then unfortunately the case is of film
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, that's the Like, if it's in l A. I
think it's easier to be able to have him pop
up more frequently.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
He I just it's just I just I feel bad.
So I'll take that he brought him back for a
minutes and we'll get to we'll get some more of
that story in a second.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You I I you know, And and I don't know
how I mean, I assume he's from Burner Beyond the Gates.
I mean, I know he's you know, shady guy's mixed
up on stuff, but he's pretty much every day Got
of Guy and Beyond the Gates, right, yeah, yeah, so
I don't I mean, and we know that they could
film Aladdin gh in a short amount of time, but
I just don't know if he's more more than five

(22:05):
episodes like in this go round.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't know either. I don't know, right, they do
the best thing cameras that job. But I get but see,
here's the thing, A Maya, I know we're here to
give our opinions, right, so so my and our reactions
and for me, I don't give past us the shows
for this because I want you, as the fan of

(22:29):
the story, and that's as a fan of the story
to get the best story right. And sometimes a short
term role you could do really well with it and
really pack it in and really get it and get
it going. But sometimes there is a disservice almost to
bringing someone back if they can't really stay. And I
always feel like, maybe it's better you don't bring him back.

(22:53):
Maybe it's a phone call instead, you know, and then
have her just have her and study deal with this
like there's no, no, no, no, I'm from saying, saying
A Maya with scheduling' that's what I'm saying. I don't
get passes to shows on that anymore because they know
they don't have them full time. They probably know how
long they have him. So to me, it's kind of

(23:16):
it's like, since you know how long you have them,
let's you'm saying for us fans, would you agree we
should utilize them to the best that we can have
them while we have him there, because when you I
would have loved and maybe it's gonna happen at some point,
but I would have loved like Kevin confronting sunny scene
or Kevin wanting to attack Sidwell, like seeing other sides

(23:38):
of him. In this story, they had Lord dealing with
it by herself. Why we'll getting that story in a second.
But you know what I mean, I just feel like
I don't I don't give I don't give shows excuses
anymore with the whole well, yeah, gets scheduling, No, you
already you can figure it out. Then the writing needs
to master the scheduling. So as it's kind of like
just just saying, it's just just to me, it's just

(23:59):
it's it's a it systs. And again, they're they're in
separate they're in separate cities. So let's say, if you again,
if you're fine the way that ulize them, then that's
then that's obviously your opinion. Also I'm saying for me,
I could have been a little better. I'm glad he's back,
and I did like some of the scenes, but I
just feel like having him go off somewhere I just didn't. So,

(24:20):
like I said, we're gonna see what happened. We're gonna
see what happens, how long he's on here and if
there's more to come with him.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, it's show style wise because this is not really
GH's deal. But I know that with Bold and Beautiful
and stuff. You've said that. You know, with some of
the people that are not in town, they will do
like FaceTime calls or something like that, or zoom calls
not as great as having the person in that actor
in person. But for you is do those scenes work

(24:49):
or they just kind of like eh when they're having
conversations over the zooms.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
It depends. It depends on storyline. To be very honest, Yes,
sometimes it does work because you're like, oh, yeah, we
need their we need their opinion on this thing. And
like they do it with Jess Walton, he plays Jill,
And I'm just saying it's it's like, so she comes
she lives an organ, she can't always come down. So
to me, just like, yes, that scene that had her

(25:16):
film was really cool because it was still it was
with the other actors. So it still works mhm. Because
we're like going that situation. We do need Jill to comment,
and we can't get her in person. I'll take a
zoom call or I'll take a tablet. So and so. Yes,
in some cases work and in some cases doesn't work right,
But in some cases it does work, I think. And

(25:36):
that's again it goes back to scheduling going. She's too
old to go back and forth all the time from
Oregon to LA. So she comes down sometimes and totally
does a bunch of scenes and it's a great singer
in person. But then throughout the rest of the year
she's she comes on to you, you know, a board meeting.
That makes sense. She's on she's on the screen and
the board meeting. That makes sense. Yeah, A says I

(25:59):
think FaceTime is really good when it's work related and
not personal. That's a that's a that's a thought, the thought.
So I'm just saying you have just saying again, I'm
just saying, yeah, it works. On BTG two, Yeah it does.
They had they had a crossover they had Rich Forrester
from Bowing and Beautiful on Beyond the Gates, but it

(26:20):
was a phone call, so he fail. They filmed it
so the phone call and it worked. So the connected
shows together, so now it's connected. You wanted to hire
one of the girls, so it so it worked. So
I think it's so. I think it can it can.
I think it can work sometimes. But again I'm just
going back to saying it comes to scheduling, you know,
I just think you do better in terms of story.
So we'll see as the story can tell, how long

(26:41):
he's on, what happens to the story. I know what,
Frank n I just saying from just what little we've seen,
that's how we feel about it. Little we've seen so far,
it's mixed at best.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I me just looking at it as because it's not
really biked into the GH show style, like I mean,
Beyond the Gates started with that sort of you know,
face timing and stuff like that, and and then Bold
and Beautiful is incorporated into that end as well. Yes,
so for for g H to do something like that,
it would be a little jarring at first because that
is something new that the show would be kind of

(27:14):
incorporating into it. But they have done also Joyce just
phone calls. I'm thinking like when Tiffany had called you know, uh,
you know, for during Sean's funeral and stuff, you know
with that, you know, so I mean we have done
phone calls with voices. Yeah, we've done that with Monica too,
so uh, you know, like even I would even take

(27:35):
at some point just a call between them, and you know,
certainly a call can mean that, you know, John can
still be in Atlanta filming and it's easy to just
get him for into a you know, sound booth, uh
at some point just to you know, do a couple
of phone call scenes, you know, just to keep Kevin
alive sort of within this.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, it's just that, it's just that it was for us.
It's good to see you in person, who here he is,
and you know, and just for him to like leave
so soon for a patient, it's felt really weird, very
jarring because.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I don't know, yeah, and I don't know how he
how the show is going to justify it that he
will leave Laura in this situation, right, Like, it's going
to be tough for me to buy anything that's like
an excuse it comes off. Is going to seem pretty
lame to know that your your wife is being blackmailed
by a crime boss that you know will murder people. Uh,

(28:32):
And you're just like, well, I have to go do this, really,
I have to go talk to this person out of
town or something like get out of here.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well let's well, let's we'll get into it. That there
was okay. So I have to say it was very
interesting that Sidel is the one behind We know he's
behind it, but he had photos.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I mean, we're assuming, I guess it's a drone, so
you know, so we never saw We couldn't hear it
or see it, but it was there and it got
these photos.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yes, so but I kind of like it because it
still links her and Sunny together and they're they're really
establishing Sidwell is that he is an evil guy who
likes some of lim and I just love his delivery.
It's it's the same way, just he doesn't care. He
just talks about his smiles. They just talks about what
he's gonna do to you and what he can do,

(29:27):
like he doesn't care. And I kind of like that actually,
And but here's the problem, and I thought of you.
At first, they have Miss Laura Fearless. They did this
with Cyrus too. At first Laura was like she had

(29:47):
that famous she had them, she had the Court of
the Week was like, I've dealt with worse than you,
and it's like and it's just like I dot it
was worse than you. And even sometimes she has someone
goes really good and she goes, you know, they're all
not here, they're all gone or not not here anymore.
I'm still here. And I was like, that's right, bitch,

(30:10):
you tell him, yes you have. You have dealt with
a lot worse, probably than Sidwell over the years, and
you have survived. I thought, there is strong Laura like okay,
like don't fuck with me, fellas they are her first
time at the rodeo. But then after they bring Ezra

(30:31):
in there and she's crying and shivering in the corner.
That pissed me off.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I absolutely agree. It is even when Kevin says like, oh,
this must be so hard for somebody, if you know
your moral fortitude, I'm like, come on, this is ridiculous.
It's like, this is Laura Spencer, right, Yes, I mean
who has been involved, you know, either directly or indirectly

(30:57):
with tons of crime bosses and then just all around
the world, dangerous situations all throughout her life. And this
is the thing that's like to write her like this, yes,
like yes, you can still be a person of like
want you to do best the best you can, you know,
trying to hold everybody and yourself to a higher standard.

(31:18):
But that doesn't invalidate all the years of life life
experience in these sorts of situations that would also give
you as well you the writer like it was the
way they've written her has been frustrating to me, and
just her terrified nature of it, like no, this is
not Laura. Like she can feel terrible about the situations

(31:39):
she's in, but this fearfulness and this crying like ah, like,
come on, this is not Laura. This is not Laura.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I know. So ladies are watching and making excuses for this.
I see the chat. I want you to think about
something for a second. They've done this to Anna too,
make her cry. Now do you give to me Genie Francis?
And if you don't, who can cry? They can cry
at that problem? But why is that the default ladies?

(32:08):
Why they always make them strong at first? I didn't
have them cower and start crying. I don't. I don't
care if if Laura was kind of tonic years ago
when she als some body, it's a lot of stuff.
She's been through a lot of things, but more than that,
she also helped save the world several times. She dealt
with the Casadines, she dealt with with with she does.

(32:30):
She's dealt with a lot of stuff, Chris Frank, She's
been she's she's been through a lot of stuff, more
than not. So I'm just saying, if you're gonna write
these women strong, why can't we just write them strong?
They say, Okay, said, well, do your best, like whatever,
I go. I mean, I can fight you, because why

(32:50):
make her have that big line on the show and
then have her in the corner as we're staring at her,
She's crying like cheering in front of him. I'm like, no, no, here,
here's the okay, here it is, here's the line. I
want you to say this, mister Sidwell. I have faced
others like you. In fact, I face worse than you,

(33:12):
and you know what, none of them are around anymore.
But I am that's what she said. I thought, you go, girl,
that was one of the best lines of the week,
and I thought, there we go. We're showing Laura that
she's like that. Here we go, let's do this. You
know so well, man, I say, you say so, I
guess you're fine with it. I get a may you're

(33:33):
fine with it. I just I don't know. I just
feel like I just feel like the women like, yeah,
they do it. They do it to Nina. She's strong.
From its crying in the corner. They've been done to
Ava a couple of times, which is very rare, and
they'll do it all. They'll do a lot to her,
but they've done it to her too. It's just like, no, bitch,

(33:54):
these things are strong women who've done things. I mean
like like they all they've all had lives, done things,
and why are we reducing them to crying heaps. You
don't see the men crying when they get into fight
some other man with that amount of shell. I don't
you know.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I am not saying that they can't have softer sides
right right a moment where they are emotional or they
are crying, but it's just like there are there are
just like that. She's kind of falling apart in front
of those guys. Like that's not like worst. She's got backbones,
She's got grits.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So Sheryl Stevens says, women are not men. This is
really interesting that the women are commenting on this I'm like,
I'm like, I'm on your I'm advocating for you. Women
are not men. You're absolutely right, but women in some
ways are stronger than men. I say, I say, so anyways,
you guys get birth and shit, I don't. I don't
think I couldn't do it. I always say women are

(34:54):
women are assaults of the earth. I feel. So I'm
just saying, I'm just saying. I don't know why I'm
getting a little bit of pushback by the women in
the group here because I'm like, I'm on your side.
I'm like, I'm thinking, it's not they're not showing women
as strong enough. That they start to show them that way,
then they pull back. Porsia too, another crier, she's strong

(35:15):
women and cry the next it was like, and if
you get to Trina, you're right, and Trina too. He
was still still had it. But we'll get we'll get
to the double meltdown of thinking of Trina and Stella.
That was hilarious. Actually, women men can be soft also,
women can be soft. All I get. We like, so

(35:36):
we get all that. I'm just saying, I don't. I
don't know, I don't but that I'm not I saying
they can have a meltdown. But if you listen to
what I'm saying, I'm saying, we're in front of those
two guys. That is one thing that I think if
they had left the room and she had a breakdown afterwards,

(35:57):
I'm okay with that. That's That's what I'm saying. That's
my difference is that you stay strong. She could show
that she Laura's Laura Jeeves is a great access she
does show like the stuff she's going through. But then
after they leave, she locks the door. Then she has
a meltdown. I can die. I'm totally down with that.

(36:20):
I just feel like in front of these men, And yes,
I understand, people get upset and they start to cry.
To get they get so angry, you know, to get angry,
they get they start to cry. I get that. Also, Yes,
Josh had a whole break down in the shower. That's
something that's something totally. It's that's separate to me. That's
I just I just I don't know. I just I
just think, I don't know. Like apparently the women don't

(36:42):
agree with me. I'm trying to advocate for you. I
disagree with all of you. I think the women. So sorry,
I disagree with all the women who's fighting me on this.
I think they I think they could do better. I
think they could. I think they could do better, especially
with long term characters that we know have been through
so much. I mean, Laura face down so many people

(37:07):
from Esme to Valentine, and she's face down so many people.
So I'm just saying so, I'm just saying, sorry, sorry,
ladies who who are fighting me on this. I just
I'm not saying you can't be three dimensional and sensitive,
but I just think some of these shows they do
you guys at the service, unless unless you like weepy
women and that then that's where. Then that's then that's
for you. Now, she did have her dream, which is

(37:33):
crazy because again didn't see that the kid this a secret,
did not see this coming. We saw see over the
door and saw Cyrus. I just smiled from ear to ear,
even in a dream. Doesn't care, even in a dream.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
He's like, let's read the room in a dream.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And then all of a sudden hers made voice what
when they cut to the stairs, and it was, oh
my god, that is it is? That is it is?
It is? It was? I thought, what a nice surprise.
So what I think about that? Because some people were saying,
as my sure went to tree. No, no, No. The whole

(38:13):
point is, remember Laura told asthme, Cyrus, even Nicholas. I
wish Nicholas had showed up somehow and Nicholas to do
the right thing. But that there's scenes. You can go
back in time. You can see each of those scenes
about doing the right thing. So I thought, ooh, this
is smart. Actually, So Frank, what do you think? I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Always down for you know, bringing back former cast for
for a moment, absolutely, So uh, what are surprise to
see the two of them might be? I'm like, whoa,
all right, you know again? And that's it's interesting because
that seems pretty pretty brief, Like if usually, if you're
going to bring back characters like that from a flashback,

(38:57):
you're gonna let it roll for several several blocks and
really get a lot out of it. This one, I
was like, well, this is just really brief. This is
super brief.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, okay, I love that. See again, that's effective use
of somebody we don't need esmee all of a sudden
to go around town be a ghost everybody. I don't
need all that. But this was effective because again we know,
when they were alive, she made each of them try
to stand up to their their the things they did wrong.

(39:28):
So I'm found just the brief thing, I was fined.
The brief thing, I was fine, That's fine. It was
I was fine. And having Kevin come back at least,
thank god, and having him, you know, tell me that
was your subconscious that all made sense. I mean to me,
it all made sense. And her being kind of like
I had the worst dream ever. Well, girls even have
worst dreams than that. But now that part that line

(39:49):
was kind of dumb. But but I thought, that's yeah,
that's a that's a nightmare, that both of them coming
at her and accusing her stuff. That was to me,
that was good.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, well you know I didn't. I mean, and we're
getting into Kevin's like, oh, you're such moral you know
fortitude character? Yeah, yeah, great, yes, But also Laura's had
this past, She's done shady stuff, and she's been involved
and she stood against shady stuff. Yes, So yeah, it's
just I I don't know, to make her just seems

(40:20):
like it's like this like putting it feels like the
show's trying to put her on this like this pillar
of moral good and now we're trying to like drag
her down, like or see what happens in Laura's you know,
hands get dirty a little bit, what she does like, well, no,
Laura has been in situations like this before, so to
write it like this is like a new thing, just like.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I don't know, but I do like I will say this.
She her and her and Study eats for talking separately.
What she called Sonny. So I'm glad they're still in
this together. I'm actually liking this Laura's sunny situation. We
told that before. I'm actually liking it. Am the fact
that Sidibel wasted no time, wasted no time. It went

(41:08):
over there and they started talking, and I see they
allow Sonny. See here's the thing. Study stays cool and
calm collected. He wasn't crying or saying anything, while Sebel
just hurled insults and like to take Laura and about
all stuff. He stay calm. So Laura calls him and
he says, she goes, what we're gonna do. We're gonna

(41:30):
figure this out. So I liked them together, and so
far it's been kind of equal with them. They kind
of equally have been doing stuff, so I'm hoping that continues. Yes,
they both try to work together to overcome beca Sidwell,
he's set up his position. He is setting it.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Up, which I do like. I mean, and it is
like it's like you're putting, you set up a situation
where it looks like, you know, Laura and Sunny are stuck.
They can't get out of it. And now the thing
it is to see how they're going to turn the
tab exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
And I think you guys all agreed it's gonna be
physically fun. I mean, I we just I just love
Carl Rhoda's performance. I mean, I'm glad they're really solidifying
him as a villain. This is this just no, no,
he there's so many folks who want him there at
this point, I'm sure, but I mean it's kind of
crazy now too. His hands are everywhere. I like that,
which means he's still fall that's the all point means

(42:26):
he has legs in the game, but he also can fall,
So I like that. I like that. And again I
like that Sonny and Laura are working together, so hopefully
they will continue to kind of figure this out together
to undermine him, you.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Know, I mean, and the other person we've got is
we've got this is a possibility where Drew gets redemption
sort of where because he's under he's understood Well's thumb
as well too. So all these people that are understood
Well's thumb all come together other out of this. But
there is a reason that they all joined forces to

(43:05):
stop said well, well.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
We got Well you know, I like that, and that's
that's interesting because you're right, we have the same with you.
I know, there's there is the Jew factor too. Jew's
under his thumb also, and he don't like that. You
don't like being on his dumb you know, you don't
want they don't want that in there.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
He likes putting everybody else under his thumb, right, That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
It's like he has somebody has to answer to you,
and you know he don't like that. And Sidwell is
basically annoyed by him. So he's just he's a means
to it that He's just a means to that. We
have to remember this. On the other side of things,
Rick and Study are becoming friends.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Uh, which I'm you know good, I mean, you know,
we we we've seen plenty of it. What it's like
when they've been antagonistic towards each other, or even if
you know, it starts off okay, but then Rick does
something to kind of really undercut Sonny. I'm down for
it if we want to explore for a while, what
is it if they both make an earnest effort in

(44:02):
trying to foster a good relationship. What is it like
now they with everything they've both been through and having
this new outlook at life and family and how to forgive, uh,
you know, and we see what with the two of
them look like when they come in with this more
you know, this more informed mindset.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Redemption qualities. That's not true, Star Gazer. Anybody can redeemed anybody.
I thought for a long time Voluntine could be redeemed.
I thought he couldn't. At first when he came out
very cartoonist. We thought he killed Nicholas. How do you
go from there? How do you he killed him a
love character? How do you go from there? He was
he was, he was messing with Spencer, were all that stuff, kid? Spencer?

(44:42):
That grows better, so you saying, I mean, compared to
where he is today, He's turned around Ava done some
really stuff in the beginning that was questionable. But I
just I just like there's always redemption, that it's possible
if it's written well. So fuck goes back to the
writing written well and makes sense. It could see Drew

(45:04):
because in the past he was good on some level.
He could get back to that. Right now he's just
mister antagonist. He's just he's busy, you know, just just
just it's just rud dairy body, rud dairy one. But
still has one of his little short hairs, so that,
you know, strange bedfellows. Right now, my enemy and your
enemy is our front, you know that whole thing. So

(45:27):
I you know who knows right with that? And I
think you know. And we won't get to Drew just yet.
I just want to finish up with with Rick em
Sonny really quick. I'm just really enjoying that because I
agree with you. I think it's just how much long
can we see them fight all the time? Fred gets old? Yeah,

(45:48):
and as will do in the end towards the later
in life, they come together so and but it's also
still because they're chewed nefarious characters, there's still enough to
kind of go they really and it's it's it could
be fun and it was kind of they were just
kind of hanging out. It was kind of funny, we're

(46:08):
hanging out, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So yeah, I mean they're no matter how well well,
how well behaved or nice they write Rick, there always exists,
at any moment, the opportunity to have him turn heel,
to pull out a wrestling term in any at any
in any scene, in any storyline, and then just kind

(46:34):
of screwed the people that he was you're originally working
with for for reasons of his own.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Well, that just leads into just a scene that I
loved on some level. But also I think we're missing
a scene our girls Horsa have and Nina. I chuckled
through that whole scene. I thought it was just kind
of funny because first year Nina and Ava having you know,
having the brown dog. She said, Portion and Portion needs

(47:02):
to see her girl. Ava doesn't tell her what's going
on that Nina's there. Did you have Nina and and
Uh and Porscha in the bathroom. I just I thought
it was hilarious. I don't want it's funny because Ama said,
he goes, you know, we don't have a lot of friends.
You know, I want to all reconcileed. We gotta keep
our friend. You know, you're my freebie, maam, if you

(47:24):
want to, you're my friend. I actually like that. I
like that these three women, who are their own worst
enemies most of the time are kind of tied together.
But that bathroom scene was weird because did we miss something?
Because after oh it was about it was it on
purpose that Porsche pushes Nina, But that's it. We always
see him crying about room later. I missed something.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah we missed the fight. Yeah, we just get the shove,
but we didn't get any of the fight that happened afterwards.
And I mean, you know how much of it is
going to be because is Nina really going to get
into a dust up with they prem right?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
So find out again, people gonna find out you're pregnant.
That ain't that ain't a there's no secrets in comment
in there, like, but I just Horsham making out her man.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
H I mean, she had she had to be thankful
for the for that, for that hunky doctor. You are
she was given thanks and getting thanks.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yea, she was, I can't she was she was getting this,
she was he was getting this stuffed, shall we say,
for Thanksgiving? Yes, she was, and I don't mind. I mean, hello,
he's hot. But when he said, when I thought about
saying frank once she goes, you know, you're not with
like you're not with your family or whatever I im saying.

(48:47):
Is he related to r. J. Gannon or Hank Gannon?
Like I went up so bad. I'm like, oh my god,
want them so bad, them so bad?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, I hate the show. Has done an absolutely horrible
job about giving anything else to do. Being a doctor,
working on Porsche and working in that cabin. That's it's
all central.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
That's it. I was like, it's just it is it is.
But back to the ladies, it's kind of like all
three ladies are fed up in some way, right, so
they do need each other. And he had and I
love it. He was like, well, I didn't really, I
didn't tell I told somebody. I mean, it's kind of

(49:30):
I was laughing, and I was like, that is really
matter to Portia. It's like you still you still because
like you said, I wasn't on the radar, that's all.
That's that's kind of funny part. But she did do wrong,
so it's kind of like she had a motive. So
it's kind of just and it was just like, I mean,
it's just it's comical in some way, but these three ladies.

(49:52):
But Portia is wrong in so many levels. Nina is
wrong in so many levels. It's just it's just it's
just it's per fat pressures like oh, she's like, oh okay.
And remember Nina's friends with Curtis. Remember Curtis did her
wrong all to save their children. So ports don't just
like turn around and like shut up and go okay,

(50:12):
and you do Chad to do. I kind of get
it on some level. And I really believe that Nina.
I don't believe it was sorry, but she's what she
had to do for her child. You know. I was like,
come on, come on, Porscha. It's hypercritical to like, come on,
come on, folks. And nobody knows about Porscha. And Isaiah's
just so funny to me.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Uh, except well, no, Elizabeth knows. I think Elizabeth knows.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Well, she knows that there's it's an opportunity. There's too Daddy,
she knows it's I don't know she knows. I know
she knows. Isaiah, I can't tell I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I don't know. I mean, I feel like this is
pretty sure. Even if she doesn't have verbal I think
she's she's been there.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
She knows, Lucky and Nicholas, you've been there.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
One of my least favorite things they did with Ava
and Nina is when they had the whole big writer
changes and stuff and they had Ava do that one
eighty and Nina and they just came out of it.
So came out of nowhere, and it was so much
better when they kind of worked their way back and
they rebuilt that relationship and so it works better like
this with them. Uh. And so having Ava be like, hey, yeah,

(51:23):
we don't have you know, we don't have I like
that and was like, yes, we don't have a lot
of friends. So when when these things come up, we
got to sort it all out and and and squash,
you know, squash our beefs as needed.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Hilarious and we have to because it's adjacent to this.
The one part of Things Dove that made me laugh
was when Trina found out her mother's pregnant and was
led to still have finding out that Jordan and then
and Curtis I kissed each other or whatever. That made

(52:01):
me laugh both ways. They both were crashing out. I
had texted him, messaged him alive about I was like,
they were both crashed out at the same time. My
mother's right, she would tell him and enjoyed, explains everything
and and hat Daddy, I can't good use of short term.
I'm just saying you can do short term and it works.

(52:24):
Him coming home. I love and he comes home and
it was thankscimming me. Of course he come home, but
him trying to calm calm down both ladies. And when
he went off on Stella, wait a minute, because she's
so like, stay at the baby, stay together for the baby.
He's like, come on, girl, as now that works. He's
a grown man. That's what a man would say, like,

(52:45):
we're not We're not that involved like women are into
our kids sometimes. I see it all time my own family.
But I thought it was hilarious that they were just
they were just both of them, both ladies crashing out.
That's it to the point where Trina goes outside, sees
her man or daddy and Jordan kissing and just what
do you think? I think jeros for credit. Just when

(53:05):
you think she's about to go off, she looks at
the sticks over. I'm like, what's she looking at? And
there's Nathan Eli. We had to talk to you crowd.
I was like, oh this moment, it's hot, ended that thirsty.
It was like Thursday or Wednesday, it's hot. And they're like, wow,
did I see that coming either? So they're really coming
after him now, folks, what happened after that? I was

(53:26):
actually in shock and we messed me in fragments about
this too. He selina Wu get to see you back
again and again. Good use of flap of faux flashback
and all that. He said he hired her to kill
Drew for a million dollars. What are your thoughts on that?

(53:49):
You know he didn't go through with that, but what
are your thoughts on that? Well?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Man, I one, I don't like I will be curious
about that because we we never saw any more flashbacks
confirming Curtis is saying that he didn't go forward with it.
Like those those flashbacks conveniently stopped. We needed confirmation that
he actually pulled out because usually the way those things go,

(54:15):
like once you said an emotion, it ain't stopping. So
you know, last we saw it as they agreed, they
toasted and we don't see anything after that, and then
then he says, oh, but I stopped it, like did
you that? The way that it ends with him and
Jordan kind of huging and smooching, Curtis has that expression

(54:35):
that doesn't it feels like, oh, this is not the
whole story. But it's weird because it's like he didn't
have to say he didn't have to say any of
that to Jordan, so why tell her something but not
tell her everything? So so then maybe it's true, maybe
he did call it off because I feel like, why

(54:57):
you know, Jordan? I mean, Curtis didn't have to say
anything to Jordan, but he but he chose to, so
he may as well. There's no sense of never really
telling her ninety percent of what happened, you know, because
if he's only telling ninety you know that other temper
cent's coming out. So I like the idea that I
haven't assumed Curtis tells Jordan everything. So okay, we buy

(55:18):
that Selena Woo he called it off with her, great,
but I don't know. I mean, this makes it sticky
though for Curtis, like once he's opened that door to
Selena Woo back in his life it. It doesn't close
that easily. So even if he did, if he did
call it off, then she's not behind anything that happened
to Drew. She still he still has to deal with

(55:39):
her being like knowing that he was going to, you know,
offer her a million dollars, that sort of like just
even like conspiracy to commit murder. Yeah, that doesn't just.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Go away, right, Yeah, but I don't think that Seleena
would get it done again. She would not say. The
problem is the way they shot him. It's like not
enough to kill. It's just like it was just like
shot in the back, you're shooting the head or something.
That's I mean, I would think that on a heart,
but they didn't. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know,

(56:10):
she's a train she has people who are trained, but
again didn't see it coming. I mean, the whole thing
is Curtis is now, Curtis can't say shit canny about morals.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
No, not at all. He that he went all the
way to like a million dollars to kill man like
you know that that. Sorry, Curtis, you can't be just
all you know, Drew is just so terrible And I'm
an upstanding gentleman. Right, not anymore.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
So what I'm saying so, I'm like, now he can't
that moral high ground has now been I guess tarnished. Yes,
I'll be curiously how they play it forward? So when
the inevitable portion of the stuff comes out, what can

(56:59):
he say? She's still the wrong and she's still in
the wrong. But I wonder how to react now, don't
high a mighty or I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Chris got a million dollars. Yeah, I don't know. I
guess he's rich.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I mean that a rre media, I mean coming through.
I mean that he had a million dollars cash and
we all know that avoid gets only the hottest acts
in town. That's right, as we've seen.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So it's uh, I could see Curtis, which doesn't give
him a leg to stand up, but trying to say, like,
what I was doing was trying to protect our family,
and what you were doing Portia was sleeping around just
destroyed our family. So he could try to throw that
shade at but still, you know, it doesn't matter why

(57:52):
you were doing whatever you're doing. You know, you know
moral high grounds. You know you can't you know, just
because it's something different doesn't mean either any better.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yes, I know, it's it's I thought it was an
interesting piece to do to Curse's character. I thought that's
interesting that it was shocking, and I want shocking. I
want I want character to three dimensional. I want them
to be all over the place. Curse is a little
high mighty sometimes, so I'm kind of glad that they
kind of did this a little turn because he's saying

(58:23):
it's because of his family, because he was because once
you attack on Stella, that was a major thing for him.
That was kind of like, Okay, she's really innocent of
bellboys people. You want to somebody's old lady. That's it.
I mean, that's you know, that's I mean, that's it.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
He was.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He was done. You know, he was done. So I'll
give it to him. But then we got Trina and
Kai boring as fuck. I'm gonna try to find who
killed Drew.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, like you wanted more trade the storyline and this
is like it's she she just hit the raise the
writer where she is just inside waiting herself into her parents.
It's because of me. It's because of me they're doing
I guess, so we have to find the real murderer. Like, oh, okay,
this is this is the storyline we've been crying and

(59:14):
begging for for Trina.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
This is I just it's HiT's the thing. It's like,
Kai isn't bad, isn't great? I just feel nothing for it.
He's not tied to anybody. He withdrew when he saw
for a minute before the wedding over there, but he's
not waiting tied to anybody. You don't see him enough anymore.

(59:39):
And with Trina, it's just that it's I keep hoping
now that she knows everything that's kind of going on
on some levels about it's afraid. I don't know what
I need to walk in on her mother and Isaiah
that's next. Yeah, I would love to have I'd love
to have Trina just go off for everybody, screw all

(01:00:00):
y'all bitches and just like, but they're not. I don't
know if they're gonna do that. I would love to
see her and just like you guys are all just
keeping because she kind of went off a little bit
at the Thanksgiving But it's like I need I need
more of that. It's boring as f I am, I
am sat my first time catching you guys live yay,

(01:00:20):
thank you were joining people are watching us, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
It's very similar to Molly because her family is doing
a lot of stuff that they are not telling her
that it directly involves her. Uh And so we in
so far all this stuff has happened and we've never
had to see where Molly's learned any of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Really her mother, Christina Cody, there's so much that she
even she does not know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, so it doesn't give me any reason to think
that if they're not letting Molly know after all this time,
you know, having that having that same kind of moment, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Don't know, I uh. And also yeah, we had a
brief scene with with Trina and her best friend put
in quotes chos that literally went nowhere, and and even
she was kind of like sums up, sums off. I
don't know. I just just like again, just to deserve

(01:01:19):
to do to Trina, I'd say, it's just again, I mean,
it's not really okay. If she solves it, great, she doesn't, great,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And who carries who puts like an overnight bag like
in a cabinet in your living room?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
And I saw that what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
What's that doing to get out of here? This's diculous.
That's where you put that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, and then with as I mentioned Molly and coy
is really briefly because they were only briefly here's the
deal as other storylines were going really fast and furious
and dropping bombs. So I love it, but here's their problem.

(01:02:04):
I don't need any more obstacles for Molly and Cody
at this point. Put them together. I don't. She walks
in and she doesn't answer any of his text or anything.
To go to the Brown Dog and see them dancing

(01:02:25):
with with with, which was that's evenly interesting. So I
almost forgot. I'm literally almost, probably on purpose, had forgotten
that Cody and Britt definitely know each other. I totally
forgot that on purpose. When she mentioned though falling his head,
I was like, oh my god, that's right, and he
tried to he tried to date it for a while

(01:02:46):
and everything. I was like, oh my god, that's I
totally forgot about that. So it's a nice little moment.
I shouldn't mind them together. That was kind of fun.
I was like, okay, but I don't need and see
the problem was we had this really sweet scene here
with Spinelli and Jason that I felt it was almost

(01:03:09):
download dis service with him staring at Britt all the time.
Your best friend is going something hard right now, you know,
with Maxie and you're to Bradford. Anson did a great
job in that scene. Loved it, and I just I
just thought, we're playing the same beats again with Jason
and Britt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
You m hm, there is there's a lot of great
drama in the show right now, but you know soap
operas there they also have bits of romance in there
as well, and just findingly that that that great balance,
you know, where there's drama and action and adventure and
then you're also seeing some romans on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I mean, I guess we have one Michael, Michael and
his gal, uh, Emma and Geo, and then uh, you know,
it would have been great to have Cody and Bally
in this. I don't know why we're you know, why
they're picking this relationship is the one that just give
it a bunch of you know, Three's company moments in there,

(01:04:13):
I know, And.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
That's a gray great description, great descriptor, because right now
I'm loving Michael and just send him. I feel like
they're doing everything correctly. Yes, seriously, I want them together now.
And that actress is a fine out of where he
found her. Roc Teshner, good job. I And they finally
had a love scene. Yes, Mia, they finally had a
love scene. Michaelin just send them and it was good.

(01:04:36):
And I I just thought, Yes, they're doing everything correctly
with them. I just love the way the beats are
being played. But Britain Jason, she's always mean to him
over and over and o'mnoxious. He just takes it, and
she knows she's she knows she's a bitch, so he
just takes it. And now we have the whole cute

(01:04:58):
scene where she's drunk. Is it her medication? I'm like,
it's gonna sit by her bed. I don't need I
don't need any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I thought at least we would get a bit where
since she dropped the whole thing on the ground and
he was wanted to pick everything up, that he would
see the card say you know, from sea and at
least have that little bit of information like, well, who's
this sea person. Nope, didn't have any of that, and
and so I mean, well, he didn't sleep in the room,
so maybe he sees it in the morning. But there's

(01:05:27):
gotta be just the next step of this. I mean,
I know, we're playing the bit where Britt has just
seen somebody killed right in front of her and she
knows that her life is you know, can edit any
moment with sid Well, so she's dealing with all that
as well. But man, we gotta just I can't, I can't.
I can't have another scene where it's Britton Jason just

(01:05:48):
you know, you know, like Britt just being.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
On jerk, because Britt and Jason are not just this
go around. It'll last go round to you. So we
know there's something there and with Molly, and they've actually
done a good job over last year or so building
up to this. So again it's that whole Chase in
Brooklyn situation, but it went on forever and forever, and

(01:06:13):
it's just like this is gets to the points because
now they're together and now they're fighting things together. So
let's put my let's put Molly and Cody together, and
then she finds out everything, so to speak, but she
doesn't leave Cody. He's kind of like the last bit
of it, but she's upset everybody else and go and
turns to him. Let's like that's like also or Jason

(01:06:35):
and they finally Okay, I'm gonna trust you Jason, and
they finally get together and they fight sid again Sidwell.
So I'm like, there's there's there's just there's there's. I'm
just like, I'm like, come on, people, there is there's.
Both couples have potential, only so long do we need

(01:06:55):
obstacles from them just getting together? It's like, I get
that to be some, but it's time to Like I'm
just I'm just like, like, I know, so just to me,
to me, it's too slow, I'm sorry, it's too slow.
That to me, it's just it's just too slow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I mean, and I don't know. I mean, I feel
like Britt is at least part of the way that
Laura and Studdy get out of this because she she
tells Jason. I mean, it's all about like trying to
get Britt to come forward knowing that she knows who
really killed Dalton, right, but you know now that the
body is disposed of, like you know, even if she

(01:07:35):
comes forward, like there's no body to find, so like
nobody could get so it's a way for Sutning a
lord to get out of it, but not take Sidwell
off down as well. It just prevents him from having
the leverage that he's got over them. Right, so you
get to still have Sidwell being around to do whatever
the next thing is, right, which is great, which is
what you want. You want to have Sidwell still sticking

(01:07:55):
around even though he doesn't win this battle. You know,
there's there's a there's another one that they could come
up later down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I mean, I don't mind. I don't mind Britt being scared.
Totally get it, totally get it. I mean Similson Grant mean,
and I get that. And she's afraid now because of
homeboy got beat up and she's she's scared. So she's like,
she's like, okay, Simils not to play with. But if

(01:08:24):
she lets Jason in, then they can actually work together
again like Sonny and London. We can work together, Like
I said, they all could work together against Sidwell. Can
we can do the good thing. We have to get there,
and I just I just think they need to say
they need to get there with that, because I think
I don't mind Jason and Brett, so I have no
problem with them together. Problem.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
But you know, the show loves to be able to
like with anything that Jason's in. It's just like also
the phone rigs and it's either Krly or Sony, you know.
And then and then we go right back into it like, oh, well, yep,
you got to go do that. No, I'm gonna put
up my wall again. Uh, you go take care of that, Jason,

(01:09:08):
don't you come back?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
There are a few more to go through. Of course,
that what I mentioned. I am loving how Laura Wright
is playing Cardi right now, how awkward it is with
her and Brennan. It's like, wow, the way she's playing

(01:09:35):
is really good. But she kissed him. You can feel
like she doesn't want to kiss him. She's like praying
at WSP calls takes him away, but you don't want
to sleep with him. He can saying something wrong and
luckily she has enough drama in her life she can
pull for somewhere else. Curtis as old Lucas saying sounds
great and he thinks he's giving a great advice and

(01:09:55):
then getting closer and she's just like disgusted. And again
they're playing car Okay, they're playing Carly is strong, She
waits leaves and she cries a little bit. That's a
good example of somebody. They don't. They don't have her
just crying in front. She's strong. They let they let
carl be strong with men. That's one. I'll give a point.

(01:10:16):
I'll give points on that one. Carl is strong, so
she's ware. And then when, oh my god, Valentine, that's
no surprise on Friday, beat up, beat up? Like beat up?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
What Clearly we didn't even have the confirmation that he
was in a prison stan and not having even one
visit between Charlotte and and Balty with him in the
stateside prison, It's just nope, I'm out now, which is great.
I mean, I'd rather have him out in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I actually, folks are gonna hate me, and I don't care.
I see chemistry between Valentine and Carly, I do. I
mean they both had chemistry with anybody, right, and jameson
Street is so good. I'm seeing a little chemistry. I
don't know it. It's just made just me, but I do.

(01:11:09):
I thought they're establishing that her and Jack won't be together,
obviously because of Johnsler. I'm a fan of that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
It's just you know, we've seen the valid and a
thing enough like it's just like you know, it was
great for what it was, but it's just it's head
diminishing returns now at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
So see the chattoo. I see that chattoo. Okay, I'm
sure because I said, I'm seeing something that's really interesting
with two of them, and now he's at her house.
I'm curious see what happens. I'm curious see what how
this plays out. He's gonna hide our house.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I assume he has to because where else is he
going to go?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Right? So I kind of like that, and they're working together.
I also, everybody's singing to you, okay, by singing okay, good.
I wasn't sure because I'm seeing it. I thought I
never thought those two together ever, But in this situation,
I'm like, I kind of see it, like okay, I'm like,
I'm I'm like there, I'm here for it. Yes, Val

(01:12:07):
and Carly and Anna. I know, because Carli and Anna
respectfully respect each other on some level. They didn't really
have any problems. I mean, they're fine, so it'd be interesting.
But I think Anna knows she can't be with him anyway.
She can't be with him. I just care.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
At this point. I mean, there was, yes, but it's
like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Like him and Nina, they're they're they're friendly now, they're
fine when they were together and they're fine, and he
helps Robberty once in a while. I mean, I mean,
it's kind of what it is. But Carlie and Value
will be very interesting. That would be very interesting with that.
But I like that. And but I love how Brennan
convinced Carly to talk to Lucas. Folks, it's such a

(01:12:52):
cringe situation because we all know that Laura, we all
know that Carli is correct. You know she's right, and
Lucas has this is blind, has no idea. We know
he's we know, we know, we know that Marcus is
just something more to him than MEASTI with his father.

(01:13:15):
And what she's saying is just like I get why
he's like who to say anything. I get, I get it.
I mean siblings, and I told you thought you were Sonny,
I told her, get it. But I just I just
have a feeling sheep down. He knows something's up to
He's a little nervous in there to you, you know,
like the whole thing about you. I tell you something,
Frank and it bothers you because you may think it's
you a little bit be down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, it's you know, like for her for Lucas to
throw his sonny in there, And I agree with Carly,
it is different. Carly knew Sonny, she knew all sides
of him. Yes, she saw the good and the bad,
and she still decided to stay with him, right or wrong.
She decided to do that. But she had a full
picture of who this guy was. All she said is like, hey,

(01:14:00):
I'm not saying that you know that you can't that
that you can't love Marco, but you just gotta be
having full eyes opened because you don't know, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
And why live there with Sidwell? Oh my god. Okay,
today's Court of the day comes from a Maya Baker
fifty eight on the high in the chat, Marco must
have eleven inches mean of of wall space? You mean
space eleven inches of what? Uh? I always say it

(01:14:32):
was at the Golden Penis. Was at the Golden Penis.
And so Lucas, Lucas is digmatized, as we call it.
He's digmatized. So yeah, he's like, that's it. He's in,
He's in, he's in love, he's in so I get it,
and we get it, and Laura and Laura, I said, Laura,
even Connie gets it, but she really is afraid for

(01:14:53):
It's like a Sidwell has shown when he is dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
The show has showed us, even if other characters haven't
seen it, that Marco does have a genuine side towards Lucas.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yes, so you know there, I don't think like Marco
is not operating any under any false motives in terms
of his relationship with Lucas. It is just that he
is also held bent on revenge against Sunny for what
he thinks is his involvement in his mom's death exactly.
So that is, you know, that is kind of making

(01:15:27):
him just take a blind eye and joining his father
in some of their various things. Right, So you know,
I do like that the show is setting up for that.
So it's not like Lucas is being a total chump,
but Lucas is being a dubbie and not saying like,
oh yeah, I should take a second and really think.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
And I did. And here's the thing. Two kids out there,
I like. I like Lucas and Carly as siblings, and
I like that they're really playing on that for the
first time in a long time, and Van Hansens and
Laury have great chemistry place by me, say, Felicia, I
actually love She's Bobby's best friend and once in a

(01:16:08):
while she comes in and says a few things. And
I love when she talked to Lucas. It was kind
of like, come on, your mother was can hold a grudge?
I was letting you know, she had said. I mean
it was. It was such a cute thing because you
and I said, it's a long time ago. They kind
of teased that, Felicia calling me each other's lives. From

(01:16:30):
all that kind of stuff was going on, we were
wondering how to play out and raid it's kind of
played out, okay. Occasionally she jumps in with them occasionally,
and you know, and we're reminded through the eyes of
Bobby so to see her eyes of Bobby so to speak.
And they're all part of the same family because they
have Maxie and common in the whole fam and everything
in common. So I like it. I liked it. And
I thought him talking to her, talking to them talking

(01:16:52):
to each other, it was great, great.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I agree, Yeah, you know, it's uh. We although at
some point Lucas is gonna get get a better understanding
of the full picture Marco is going into and then uh,
you know, then then I think it becomes like a
Barco moment where it's like, do I continue this this

(01:17:17):
kind of bad stuff that I'm doing with my dad
for Sonny, or do I kind of walk away from
that and just let it go and let the pain
of my mom's death kind of just like trying to
resolve that within my own self and just stay with Lucas. Uh,
you know, because I love him, and that that I
feel would be interesting to see what Barco chooses when
it comes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
I think that's great and I would love to see that.
I don't think we're going to get that. So the
Frank that was great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I'm gonna get that. Here's what I think we're going
to get. We both can be wrong to who knows
both can wrong. But here's the thing. I need to
be more of Lucas going I'm trapped, oh f and
then go because Carty said, call me no matter what
it is, you can always call me. But I think
he's gonna gonna figure out realize he's gonna see something

(01:18:03):
or hear something and I realize, oh ship, I meant
and I meant I'm seeing I meant you deep or something.
And he's gonna plan try to pull out. They have
to have to figure out what he's going to do and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
What and that's a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Oh yeah, but he's gonna pull out. That it's Sunday.
Can stop it if any one people watching, that's why're
watching anyone. We were watching against we're talking dirty alls and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
There's reading more about Marco trying to plead with him
to stay. But I have feeling he is. I have
feeling Lucas is in danger and it will be used
because they keep mentioning about him with w SB and
their plan. Remember they're trying to get Sidwell too. The
only thing is Sidwell has all these people trying to
get him. So I think Lucas will be in danger.

(01:19:00):
I think you will. I think some kind of danger girl.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
You in danger.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
You girl, You're a danger girl. That's how you're a
d Lucas. You're a danger girl. I think so. I
think so. I think so because what you said I
love that. And maybe we'll get an amalgamation of both.
Maybe we'll get where he's in danger, and Marco pleads
with his father Nope, I love him, like I mean,
maybe I would love to see that. I would love
to see that. I love that, But I doubt say,

(01:19:26):
say the r random version this is this is safe
today after dark. I don't know, I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
I mean, it's just like I guess there's also just
part of me that I would love to see a
combination of those two, just just to see it a
gay relationship, just like there are you know, the shows
invested in the stakes and that's we can kind of
dig into a little bit more because I mean, it's
always just feels like it just kind of just kind
of brushed aside or just like it's hits there, but
it's like we don't really dive too deep into it.

(01:19:55):
So I'd love for this to be to have like
a real kind of steaks of the story. But uh,
but you're right with Jocelyn things. I feel like you
don't set up the whole thing with her and being
set up as like a possible like confident to Lucas
and not have that come together because in otherwise, what's
the whole WSB part of its gonna be about?

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Right, And feel yeah, as I feel like I feel
like something's going to happen with him, and I'll put
him in some a precarious situation, which I guess that's fine.
I guess so JC is like, I don't care. Luis's
serve wherever he gets this relationship ours there but love.
He's in love and homeboys, you're looking, I'll be looking

(01:20:37):
at too. I actually know who's deal. I know. I
actually know who's dating in real life. I'm friends with
about he's dating in real life. The guy who plays Marco.
Oh there, but usually good looking. So the piece of
police have not questioned yet. You know, I haven't got
They have't got her yet. They haven't, So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Because it hasn't. I mean, I feel like that's something
on Alexis to notify the police. She's saving that for trial, right,
So uh then the police are like, the police have
no idea about Portia at all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
They don't, they don't anything. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Yeah, Drew has no idea that Alexis strategy is to
blame everybody other than Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Right, Yeah, so'st because I mean, oh my god, poor Alexis.
I Well, we gotta talk about we gotta talk about
I didn't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
We gotta talk about that's beautiful day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
I mean, I thought you loved me. This if all right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
James just telling me though. If somebody threw together a
last minute Thanksgiving wedding, would you go No, they can't
be that smart of people if you're gonna throw together
a Thanksgiving wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
But here's the deal, I will I say positive thing.
I can't, Oh my god, friend and say one positive thing.
Now we know we have a new Willow, so to speak.
Then we have a clear viewpoint now that she's doing
this just to get her children. She does not love Drew.
When Nina asked her, she said she does. She does

(01:22:20):
you love him? She goes, I want my children back.
I'll do whatever I can do. Okay, kids, Okay, I
actually appreciate that. Now everybody thinks she's still the the
put upon, easily manipulated. She's like, she's probably still wrong,
but we see a clear viewpoint. She misses her children.

(01:22:41):
She does care about Scout on some level, she does,
but she wants her kids back. She does not care.
She's gonna do what she has to do. She don't care.
She is kiss and Drew. She's like, she's like Harley,
She's like, W's like oh, She's like, I love it,
love it. And he a starry eyed, like, no one's

(01:23:02):
gonna stop me. You don't know Michael out there for
a minute. We know he's not gonna stop the wedding,
but Drew is a starry eyed I just can't. I
was gonna marry it. He thinks he won. He thinks
he won, and I am hoping against all that is soap.
Jesus man. She does, she does, get her kids back,

(01:23:23):
or getting his kids some concert whatever. She drops his
behind in two point four seconds and lets him know
I was just using you. I don't love you anymore,
because that will hurt him. If she says she just
love me more, that's it. He will he will crumble.
He won't, he will crumble.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Uh guess I mean Drew is his own worst enemy
in this like it. He could have had Willow and
Willow and Michael could have had you joint custody other kids,
and everything would have been fine. But he had to
just keep sticking his nose in it and stop uh,
Willow and Michael from actually having discussions and conversations that

(01:24:08):
needed to happen way earlier, and all this before, so
many other things happened that kind of just snowballed into
where we are now, and so uh great. You know,
let's he's got nobody to blame about himself on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Exactly. I'm just I'm just like, it's it's it's it's
I love see I can saying I love that Drew
is so ego centric that he's not paying attention to
the smaller stuff, and I love him. This is the room,

(01:24:46):
alexis you. You need to get a little more smiling
your face. You know what I can do to you.
It's it's so oh, Alexa, quiet talking to you and
just like, I mean, she's there, and she's already there.
She hasn't said anything or done anything, and you're already
in on her. That's how annoying he is. She's like,

(01:25:07):
I'm here from I understand what it's like. I get
it her expression, Nina's expression. There's some great memes out there,
are hilarious. During the wedding, are hilarious, even Liz as
a couple. They're really funny out there. They're really funny
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
But even like when Nita shows up and starts talking
to to Drew and Drew always he just leaves. And
if you even think about, like, geez, come we get it, Drew,
that's your thing. Blow come on, dude, we totally get it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
We totally get it. We totally get it. And it's
it's just it's too much and and I but that's
his character. That's why what he does. He doesn't care.
He's he thinks he's winning.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
And if this whole thing with the sigwell stuff, like,
I don't need him to do a whole one eighty
become like super nice Drew again. I just need him
to be like, you know, pull a pull a like
you know, uh a fifty and so like he gets
back a little bit nicer guy. But he's still you know,
he can still do crappy stuff and still be antagonist

(01:26:12):
on the show. But it doesn't mean that he has
to be written as just cartoonish as he is right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Now out of mind for some reason. I don't mind.
I think it's hilarious to me because he's so over
the top and he's so hateful. I mean, folks want
have gone, so I love it. But that's kind of
the point. You need somebody who's just kind of Sidwell
is kind of dark, scary bad guy, and you was

(01:26:38):
kind of laughable bad guy who seems to win on occasion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
So and speaking of those guys like I I was
surprised to see like I thought we were done with
Azra Boyle, but lo and behold he pops in the
Sidwel Laura meeting. And I'm like, oh, all right, you're
still sticking around.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Because she said, I what if I just like step down,
you have a special election. But he's like, nope, that's
gonna help you. The bitch like, no, I'm gonna help you.
So so they really want to make it said, she's stuck.
As I said, like we said earlier, we want to
see them unstick themselves, like how are you gonna do this?
So I don't you know? And they did. They did

(01:27:23):
show up. They did just show he did when he
hurt Ace crying and see what picks up the monitor.
That does scare her a little bit, it does. I
mean I the only use him, but but like, just
like what was it? Laura and Dante had that conversation
a while back. All of our kids, all the kids
are pawns. Charlotte rock All that. So we have that

(01:27:48):
storyline too, which I've been enjoying actually, and I love that.
I love that five that Geo and Brooklyn are Okay,
I've loved their conversation. I'm fine with him not being
close to one parent yet, but both the role mention
was too much.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
There's too much, Yeah, I agree, But man, they just
Dante for somebody who had this wild, red, anxious youth.
Uh that that Cody would talk about with with anybody
who would who would ask or have beers with Dante
and talk about like you would think that Dante like, hey, yeah,

(01:28:28):
we've we've heard you guys talk about your crazy youths.
That you should be able to have a clear perspective
of what's going on, like Geo and Rocco and stuff.
But no, it just comes in just such an ass
completely and that's just something I'm just like, but give
it up for Rocco. I thought Rocco was stellar. Uh yeah,

(01:28:52):
find it plays a boy great scenes when he yes,
he's great when he livesen to Dante about like, oh yeah,
you you know, for you were you to tell me
he suld be in my family?

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
It's that coming either. That was like wow, he said
that when he's like, you left us twice, me and
mom twice and went and Johnny, and then Dante had
to realize, I'm like god, I did like, he's not
wrong and had to sit down for a second. And
when he when he asked, when he asked the oh
my god, what's her name, Clulu? Do you agree? And

(01:29:26):
she's like, yeah, see I just said. I was like,
oh my god. He's like oh, but she seemed like
but I had the caveat of this, but you mean
you did. I felt the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Yeah, And I did, like, just like, but I never
told that to Rocco.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Right like that, I think she would. She would have
there's that. So I thought that was very cool, but
that I can't tell. I can't try and tell parents.
Kids are sponges, and kids see things you think they
don't see, and all of a sudden, kids afore them. Right,
So I saw things that I should have as a kid.
My parents were splitting up and it was bad. And

(01:30:03):
so I think we remember that stuff like like elephants
remember that, and so it's just it's just a it's
a lesson and just like I always like that we're
seeing the consequences of all of these people's actions to
their kids, right, the whole acting up. They support each other,
they're lying to each other. It's to the parent, it's great.
And so when Dante Am and Sunny I would talk,

(01:30:29):
you know, I like it because it's it's because they
had their own issues. I mean, like then where they
are now, they can they can talk to study and study.
It's just like it'll be fine. And he talks to Finn.
I look, Finn when he talks to Rock. I love that.
I love that they have that situation because Dante he's
just angry. He's just angry.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
It doesn't get much further apart for father and said,
or any parent and child then shooting your child in
the chest. You know, it's if if the two of
them were well, if Sonny and Dante kind of come
back from that and it's like, all right, guys, I

(01:31:09):
think you'll be able to repair this stuff with Geo
and Rocco.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
I agree with that. I will, I will agree with that.
And I just think that Rocco is a I mean,
Dante is a cop, and it must be hard to
turn that off and on and Dante and and and

(01:31:41):
when Sonny says turn up a turn off the cop
be a father for a second. That must be hard,
because Dante though about it for a seconds. It's like
it's it's it's like, it's hard to turn that off
because all you see is is wrong. Because let's get
too let's get into this part that I've been waiting for.
Frank's comments on so hard this week, my favorite scenes

(01:32:03):
this week, and you get when those dogs came through
the door, I was laughing. So I did not expect
that because they said, anyone go really rate the dogs.
I don't even see actually see them. I had no idea.
Those dogs were so cute. Oh my god, they were
so cute. So they liberated these dogs because they got

(01:32:28):
a card from somebody. Do we think it's Joss? They
get this Jos they gave the card.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Yes, I mean we yeare like just pretty much admitted
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
With Brennan's she did, so I was like, okay, love it,
love it, love it, and okay, uh and I it's
hilarious and uh they're just so cute and having and
our thumbnail today is is them holding your dogs. Just
know I love it. I'm Frank wall dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
It's he must have been a delightful day on set
when they filmed that scene. Great instead of all those
dogs around, very great, But as a story beat, just
get out of here. I did not need to see
that just.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Again, it's just they ride this line with like, especially Emma,
like g I feel like he's just gonna do anything
to go along with them, like whatever, dude, but like
Emma doesn't really like yes because oh I couldn't take
it back to my aunt's place because oh the co
op would have just killed us. Like well, yeah, but
you didn't call anybody. You could have called Sonny and
alerted her by that the way over, Like you're just

(01:33:42):
gonna show up, Come on, Emma, you know, just like
you know, you just wanna just drop in with what
it's gonna be a dozen dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
And be like, oh hey is it cool?

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Like call ahead, get some notice and you know what's
with all the security from Sunny doesn't be paid to
have security here. It's like, oh no, we're just gonna
let dogs just run right in.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Yes, I don't care, and loved it. Don't care. I
loved it. I loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it.
I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was something different. Uh,
and just seeing wicking them holding dogs, because I mean,
I just it just it made me smile. You know,
here's the thing, folks, we watched these shows we talk about.
We don't talk about them. We're talking about with you guys.

(01:34:24):
You go online all stuff. I don't know. I like animals.
I don't mind a horse or you. Sorry, I don't
mind that. I don't mind a duck. I don't mind.
I don't I don't mind props like that. I think
it's just kind I think it's kind of fun. I
just thought, you know, sheriff says, like she said, it's
fair thing if they just show they couldn't say no.
They're all freakings killing me right now there laughing at you.

(01:34:45):
I love I don't. I love it. And I saw
them behind the scenes when they were cooperating. It's kind
of funny the talk. They were adorable. I don't I
was in a world of crazy right now. I I'll
allow it. I will allow it. I get my gap.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Oh there you judge lot a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
That's I allow it. Frank, he has no hearts. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
I am dead inside. And it seems like this that
that that you have killed whatever little I know I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Of, you know, I I seriously I was like, oh
my god, Frank's gonna hate these scenes. I knew it.
They all Frank the grip, I know, I know, I
knew it. I know I knew. I said I was
talking about this because it was so but it was unexpected, right,
we didn't we didn't expect this. It was kind of
like it was it was like, wow, they really they
really are bringing it. I there's always see all the dogs,
They're always all the dogs. It was kind of it

(01:35:39):
was kind of there are all different sizes and there
one dogs like this in the couch. I don't know.
I loved it. I loved it. I did.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
I would if I just bring in one and let
us hear barking outside, barking outside. Yeah, it's just like, okay, great,
we get to the end of there's a bunch of dogs, but.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I see the pie I didn't care about. Dante comes in,
He's wants to talk to Rocco and rocas lunking dog
and him going off, all you guys are necessary saying
I'm just going with everybody. It was it was kind
of that was hilarious to me. To you a little bit.
I was like, here we go again, I meanly goes

(01:36:22):
off on go he does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
And then when Sonny goes, hey, can I just talk
to Dante and they have their little chat and then
they all come back in. And then the first thing
Dante does is he lays back into Geo again right
out of the gate, like, did you not hear anything
that you and your dad talked about? And the first
thing you do is just lay right into Geo. Man, dude,
you're your own worst enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
With all this. Well no, but no, you're forgetting Sonny
said to Dante enough, that is what he said. Yeah,
he said enough, and Doctee talked. I was like, Danny's
talking right now. I was like, you said enough? And
then he then then yeah, then he then he did
talk to you. Uh he talked to his side about that.

(01:37:07):
You're right, didn't hear any hearing? He said, And I
you know, it's like, I don't mind. I don't blame Geo,
screw him. Like Dante is just like and Rock keeps saying,
it's not him, it's me. I'm like, I'm making these
decisions and he just like he just so Daisy Flower
thinks Emma's being selfish and arrogant. I know I'm liking him,

(01:37:28):
but these days I don't care. I like her, and
I was to get this way, and he might be right,
Danny Flywer. But my whole thing is when you're young
and you think you know something, you go for it.
You know what I mean? Like you think there are
things you couldn't tell me nothing at twenty one, twenty
years old. Sometimes there are things. There are things I

(01:37:48):
just thought I knew, and you were gonna try to
tell me differently. Screw you and a horse, he rode
in on. I know for a fact that this is this.
As we sided out later, I was completely wrong. But
that's who you're young, you know. I'm hoping that somebody
needs the nephews or my children. Brobaby, you think they
know they they just know this to be true. I'm like,

(01:38:13):
you don't know anything. You think you know what's going on.
That's not true, and you file later that I was right,
And I'm petty. I tell my kids all the time,
like I told you, I was right. I'll tell you
so in a second. I don't care, Frank, I don't care, Frank.
I'll tell them it is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
That Emma is this passionate about saving pets, especially ones
that are being tested with that labbit in lab situations. Fantastic.
But to assume that she could just show up at
somebody's house with a bunch of dogs without any advance
notice and everything's just gonna be fine, like get out
of here, like then that's where it's like, Emma, you

(01:38:51):
do have to work. It's like you you know, you
start it, but you don't finish it, like, but you
gotta think it all the way through.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
I suppose she doesn't. That's the whole point. She suppulsive.
That's when that says she's young and impulsive. And probably
Jill said, it'll be fine. It's my grandfather, it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Well, let's just kiss a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
It'll be exactly. You see, all you guys are jading
at home, and so it's Frank, you're all young once.
Come on, we didn't think. We didn't think everything through
all the time when we were young, right, Frank, they're
siding there, siding with you, you get Frank, I don't care.
I'll stand alone my thoughts. I'll stand alone.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
It is one thing to come home surprise. I've got
a dog with me. That's one thing. But surprise, Oh
I've got twelve dogs with me. Get out of here. No,
that's no way you were. You can be forgiven for
one dog as a surprise, not twelve, not twelve dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I love it. And half the fans are agreeing with you,
a half agreeing with me. Thank you, fe But I
don't care. I'd be talking. I mean, I would be upset.
So came my house with twelve dogs, I'd be upset.
All the point is I don't care. Yeah, doctor was telling. True,
they did break laws. But come on, come on, folks,
and anybody went when Rick Robin gets burried in law.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Then.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
But I did like that Rick, even he was at
first he was like, you're doing this with rock you
know approbation. He didn't, So he did throw some heat
their away. But then when it came down to the
real cops showed up like good Samaritan stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
He was there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
He was there for Sonny.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Oh, but door goes. Frank came to lead his emails,
all the dogs emails. I guess he going after Frank.
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
But but by my emails are just for me, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
For anybody else, for anybody else. Oh, Frank, we were James.
It was unexpected, funny way to end the story. The
dogs and dogs are finally saved. They're mentioning that she's
impulse of like her father and grandfather Patrick and Noah. Great,

(01:41:12):
I'm just telling you what's going on. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
That's great, So I guess we'll let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Show up with your twelve dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Because your grandpa and your dad. All Right, he's talking
you guys, right, I'm talking you guys out there. I
just I just reading what they said. I thought, I'm saying.
That's what they said. It runs in the family. Uh
Ezra is laughable. I know that's funny. Alexi is gonna
get back he does he does that weird thing in

(01:41:44):
his hands. Alex is gonna get back on Andrew. She's
his shirt. Scout is safe and away from Drew. Okay,
but yeah, no, it's that was just kind of I
thought of Frank the all time. I thought it's hilarious,
but it was dud give Jason is something different.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
I mean, they are like said, it's so and it
doesn't advance the story at least, so that part of
the story is done, but I think it's basically done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
I feel like it gets to be like Willa or
Jocelyn kind of chafing against the WSB, where she enjoyed
thinking that she was going to be doing good but
then finding out like, hey, I've got to let my
old watch, my old family be, you know, be put
in danger for this, and you smoothing my mom and
I'm supposed to be just cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
He goes, you're out a lot of it. You watch out,
it's that way a minute. But you're with my mom.
You gotta say nothing gonna say. They said Vaughn away,
Oh man, you see he got taken away kids. He's
just slept with her. But that's that's sloppy. Why would

(01:42:50):
he think? Why here and poor Charles they could sneak around,
but presence is everywhere. So to me, that was sloppy.
You know, I'm my big fans of the jobs with there,
but that was totally I was totally sloppy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Hey, but James, you know, you know you've been young,
haven't you, and you know you cared about you know,
government agencies snooping on you. Why you just want to
get some smooching on.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
I'm all talking, I'm talking smooching on so so take that, Frank,
but I'm not nobody really watching me. It's going. But
they agree with you. They love that. Rock was saying
to his dad, it's it's one of those things. It's
it's these these are these kids are this set. They're teenagers,

(01:43:38):
are older teenagers, so we're seeing their personalities come to life.
And I think that's one thing I've been doing really
well with these kids. I'm liking the trio of of
of Stanny, Rocco and Charlotte. I love that trio and
when and when they went it was funny when when
they saw Roco and they all hugged. It was the
all he hugged each one at the was that was

(01:44:00):
very cool. They you know, they's back and they were
very happy. They were very happy, and you know, and
and and Geo and Rock way the little brother moments.
I loved. I loved all of it. I loved I
loved all that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
What I also loved to was that Alexis lou Laura
and uh Jay said like, no, this story is your
your fake story about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
But I didn't you know they're lion, you know, and
they came back in we know you guys are lying.
I go, I love that. I love that. Again, you can't.
These people have been through a lot of stuff. Three
three of them. Yeah, they yeah, they can tell. I
always say that. I always I told my daughters, you
can't put anything over on me. I did already, so
good luck and your mother, so you can try it.

(01:44:46):
They tried a cold times. They didn't. I always caught him.
I don't know, we already know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
So that was the fun.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
That was one of the funniest scenes. Like, you know,
they lion lying. That made you know, I made no sense,
And I love that they told him that, you know,
your story makes no sense of making work for him.
They were being and they were really being arnest. They
really want to, you know, shot the thought by doing
something extra that would help their case, which a kid
would think would think that, right, they think. They're not

(01:45:12):
thinking rationally. They're thinking. They love their brother and they
know anything that happened to him. That's that's I understand
that part.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Yeah. I feel like the you know, the adults appreciated
how much they wanted to stand up for each other,
but like, but also, no, we can't, we're not we
can't let them lie. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Uh, it was fun. I was laughing, it was it
was good. It was good. I say, it's a funny scene.
It was a funny scene. The finn car is really
I think it's really good. I think he's doing a
really good job. You know. I mean, I love all
the kids. I think Mark Tester someone asked me earlier,
I guess Mark Tester was on that show Soaphy. I
don't watch soaphi, so I would never I wouldn't be

(01:45:52):
seeing him on there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
One other thing I did like to from the week
prior was U was Rocket talking to Britt while he
was still in uh you know, in detentionion. Uh was
great just for Roco to have that moment of like,
you know, I feel terrible that I kind of that
I stole to keep that from you. Just like yeah,
they kind of just like have an open discussion and

(01:46:16):
honest about what that would do the two of them,
and you got you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Had what use it? Later going and Rocco was beat up.
She went to Sidwell, she didn't like no, she don't
like that. She did not like no, no, no, she
did not like that. That was not kosher. So and
I have to say again, short term use. We saw
doctor all break back. My girl was back for a
minute and she brought the girls together where she told

(01:46:41):
Will all about herself. She didn't know why that was cool,
but she was just like, you know, you get you'll
get to get at like a petulant brat. Yes, excuse me.
It's like wait a minute, because no, this was you
get mad at family, but you also stick together like
you don't just get mad. That's it. I loved liesels
approach to that, and then adding Nina and Nina walk

(01:47:02):
in and they made up attentively, kind of made up
and like but no. But but then then she's showing
Nina I think on some level too that she you
can't do this to me anymore either. She's her own
woman and she's going into this marriage on her own accord.
That's what I need. You have to see. But I
love that Lisa again again to me short you can

(01:47:25):
do short term roles really great. I'm just saying that's
saying the writing it can work. That's kind of my point. Yeah,
Obrook was all you off for a couple of scenes,
and she was really good. It was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
It was great, anybody that could just kind of check Willow.
That is like the whole Nida Willow thing is also.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Just like she loves you because everything she's done, maybe
right or wrong, she thinks she loves you, Like come on,
come on, girl, pull together. Yeah, because that's because yeah,
for better or worse, Nina's are all worse than me.
But she was doing she thought she was trying to help.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
She'll let everybody know. You know, we'll be shy about that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Told her made just like I'll mess up again, you'll
by you mad at me again later. That's fine, I mean,
And that's but that is you know, that is realistic.
Something like that is realistic, Like that's just that's life. Yeah,
that's just life, you know. And so I know that's
how it is. And she said, I miss you too.

(01:48:23):
So I'm glad that. I'm glad that there's at least
a tenant of truth between them. And but at least
Nina's in on this kind of like, okay, she's doing this.
She thinks gonna get her kids back, got it. So
some of she gives me rest assured she's not in
love with Drew, so it's like okay, good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Yeah, but I mean it's still she still feels terrible
that Willow is doing this. It's like go into a
relationship knowing that you don't love this person even though
you're trying to just get your kids. But who wants
that for their for their child?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Nobody right, nobody right? So I thought that was that
was so, that was so, that was good so much
as something else that happened and left my brain that fast.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Go ahead, Oh well, I will give a shout out.
As we're talking about the detention scenes, is the what
guard that kept bringing racco out? They just had to
get sit there and get threatened by everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Had a latitude. And I'm like, screen time, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
I don't know how we got this. I like said, no, yeah, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
So he's like, you know who I am? I as
you tell him, Sunny, tell who you are. That's just
your choice. Have thinking beat up. That was just your
choice they had they have that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
I was like okay, and it like, oh, Sidwell, he's
not above getting it heavy, get beat up.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
That's what I'm saying. We're now seeing that Sidwell really
is a villain. He's charming and all that, but he's
a villain, and I actually like that delineation. Now we're
getting get up to wait for the two years to
forget what he is. We're seeing you don't care, Yeah, somebody,
and that's that makes him, That makes him dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
So and I don't need them. I don't need g
h too, All said, ramp it up to one hundred
with Sidwell and write them off. Let's see. I am cool. Like,
even after whatever this plan is that Bread is involved in,
even if this just you know, gets taken down and
falls apart and Suddy and Jason and whoever stop it,

(01:50:28):
uh that he's still around and you know he's doing that.
He gets into something else totally fun with that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Right left my brain that fast. Well, a couple of
things left because we've off for two hours. I was cray,
it's a couple of things. I'm like, you know what
they were? What they were? A lot went on. I mean,
it's all the last cohole weeks. Sometimes I think there's
a couple of things, that couple of small things I
wanted to mention. I like, I can't think they are
right now, absolutely gone out of my brain. Uh. Oh, Well,

(01:51:01):
Chase and Brooklyn had their talk in the kitchen. Yes,
and now she's like, no, after what Michael did for
me and Geo, I'm back to nothinking he didn't do
I mean, I'm on it. And Chase is like, I mean,
he's seriously out of control with Willow. But I love
that Brooklyn went back to liking Michael again, going now

(01:51:22):
I'm like, no, I don't think Michael did it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
What I like about this is that it you don't
have to write Chase in Brooklyn is like being you know,
hateful or hurtful towards each other. They can have differences
of opinion on subjects whatever it might be, like they
were having like with Michael, but that's gonna be that
their marriage is in jeopardy or they were going to
break up. It's like, no, no, no, people can People
can disagree on how they view something and they work

(01:51:48):
and we just see how they work through it as
a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Yes, I agree. I think it's again put them together,
then create and create conflict once they're together, and keep
them together and have just said they talk things out.
That's the one thing. So yeah, I'm telling down.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Oh and we also had speaking of people who like
to talk it out Stella, which Chico talks to Drew
at the BC Grill. Whooo she just aired it out,
Yes she did.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
She was like, but again, she's just like to Curtis,
you want to check your aunt basically because you know,
I investigations could still be open. I'm like, God, he's
just so mean. He's like, he is so ruthless.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
But I did like to have Barton like also check
about that too. It's like, hey, if this happens with Stella,
you don't have not working with you anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Well I love it, so yeah, So again reoccurring character.
It's fun seeing Martin show up in places because all
they Drew I love him, Alexis, I see some chemistry
there I those two. He kind of admires Alexus, so
I kind of like that. But also, yeah, there was
still our friends, and that's all things like no, no,
that's what nicest people, you know, Remember we said not her.

(01:53:03):
So what makes what made me laugh was when first
first she's having I'm about to have lunch with Curtis
and Tredah, and when she was like, I didn't gonna
tell him how I feel right now, went to go
should we stop it? Best second line of the of
the week. We started, no, let her cook. I love it.
I'm like, he said, let me cook. I loved it.

(01:53:29):
I thought that is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
that is it right there. I loved it. I thought
that's funny and yes, she held her own and she
was there was just smile on his face like yeah, okay, bitch,
and she didn't care. And as she said, you would
think someone who went through what you went through will
quite a better person. I just I just loved it.

(01:53:50):
I loved the whole thing. And Curtis they got to
re strange himself because he was he was waiting to
punch that man out. And he says, and they said,
having Martin there, she was just great to have him
there and can go no, no, no, wait a minute,
she's off limits. So just be like, do you remember
you know I'm not going to go out to her.
He's like, I'm not gonna have to. Yeah, I have
all kind of I thinks I can do use that

(01:54:12):
like it's it's just it's yeah, I did. I did
enjoy that. I enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
I mean, you know it doesn't you know, I'm still
despite Curtis's kind of tarnishing of his morals, with wanting
to pull out an assassination at tept On Drew, I'm
still hit his side when it comes down to the
But you ever have that bit with Drew at the end,
you know you absolutely, I know that Curtis shot me,

(01:54:41):
but Michael's got to go down for it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Then he believes that Curtis shot him. That's why that
was a guy. I like that too, that we got
begetting his point of view that he doesn't even care
so much that Curtis shot. I mean he does. He's
I'll cave invention everybody who's done me. You know, I'll
get to him. But he's so determined to get Michael
out the PA. Make sure like the gud people were saying,
the killers out there right, because that the sheet is

(01:55:05):
still out there because we don't you know, I mean,
it's it's to me, it's hilarious. It's hilarious. Oh one second,
sorry ahead, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
It's he's getting his booty call. Was uh timing in Well,
what I asked laid to is that we had that
that beat where Willow was back at Drew's place. Uh,
and will was just like, hey, are we sure you
still should live here? Because this is where you got
shot out here on the floor and just like, oh no,
no this We're gonna make new memories here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
That was funny too, because it was like, yeah, why
would you go back to where you were? We saw that? Yeah,
so yeah he didn't. He's these days determination he doesn't
care because can't barely. He thinks Curtis did it, so
he thinks Curtis won't try it again. Right now. I
think it's what he's thinking. So he's like, I get

(01:56:00):
I thought the way we'll get your kids. I have
a happier after that. I go after Curtis and take
him down for trying to kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
What I don't understand if Drew is so smart, why
he doesn't think about it like everybody else said about
It's like that Curtis is a former cop. If he
was the one that shot you, he would make sure
you were dead, right. You know, Drew's not thinking about
that part. He's saying, oh, yeah, Drew, you know Kurtas
shot me. Absolutely, but he did a terrible job at it. No, No,

(01:56:31):
he wouldn't have done a terrible job at it, you
know it, Drew.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Yeah, So that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
It's got to be somebody that has closer ties to
Drew's the woman that shot him, because that has I mean,
and it doesn't seem like it's Willow now now that
we know that will is just in it for the kids.
So I mean, it's got to be Scout, right, But
it could be Willow. That's the whole point, unless we're
doing the D I D kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Does she know she did this stuff to Daisy?

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
I think she does because of the she had that
little smirk a crimson Yeah when she over when she
heard them talking about it, and and over clock that
smirk she.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
Did she did. Your daughter was smiling when we talked
about because when she went off on I mean that
time too, but like you know, it was like come on, girl,
you look at your daughter and come on, like come on.
So yeah, so it's it's it's yeah, that was good?

(01:57:31):
Is that everything?

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
That is everything? I yes, I'm hoping that by those
sweeps is kind of you know, think of the past
sort of. Hopefully by February we kind of kind of
reveal who really shot Drew.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Yeah, you guys at home, you need to be January February,
you know, are you ready to go to another month
of this or two months. Let me know what you're
thinking the chat. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Are you ready to wrap this up? Or you want
to go on a little further. I got a little further.
I think I would. I actually would mind knowing by
the end of January for me. Another so and that's
it's what another month perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I would? I suit a better for me. That's great
because I feel like there's going to be more fall
out to find out from what we know who And
I'm find even if the show wants to let us
know and still let the characters go a few more
weeks without them knowing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, now I'm fine with that. Also, yes,
I am fine with that. Yeah, so chat, I agree, James,
the real him is out there, maybe someone off canvas.
I need to Endbody Summer thirty first. That's that's what
Cheryl Steears says, sard thirty first, you go, girl, Lord

(01:58:46):
can go zero months. I love it. Uh January at
the New Year's party.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Uh yeah, like I needed. Everybody's like I needed by
December eighth, just tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
There you go. I don't mind. I don't mind this
story going a little longer if there's more good twists
and turns.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
Well, I feel like this has to go to trial
at least because we have to see how Alexis does
because it's all like the whole Scout side of it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
So uh so I feel like, you know, you know,
Alexis exact a little bit of the story to happen,
so we can move on to figure out what happens
with Scout.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
That's true. I got you're right about that. That's true. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
Then maybe we'll find out what what Nathan's really up
to and we'll see hopefully, I mean in real life.
I don't know what you know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Uh yeah, we don't know. Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we
don't know our real life status right now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
But it would be great if, like January slash February,
we can get Maxie back, and then I feel like that,
you know, they the story could really start kicking into gear.
I agree, I agree, But as it is, it is
nice to have him back, just, you know, for whatever
the reason is, just having that character around, even if
it's not the real Nathan, even if he's going to
turn a heel at some point, but you know, he's

(02:00:15):
the other writing him decently.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
I am Okay, with him being back, I needn't know,
I didn't know if I need. I'm realizing we have
to wait till the storms thing. I do realize that,
So I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
Yeah, I mean we I mean I feel like we
know there are cards that the show yet, but I mean,
while he's here, okay, you know, like I was being,
I mean I would I wouldn't mind some more, you
knowdeda with more scenes about him, with him and his family,
just so we can kind of get that yeah, a
little bit better. But we'll see the less thing too

(02:01:01):
before we go to be where it's like, hey, you know,
I like Laura as she's talking with Kevin, like would
have been fine gambling coming forward to the cops if
Anna was the police commissioner, because Anna knows all about sidwell,
oh right, so, but I also feel like you wouldn't
have that same level of confidence with Dante, like you know,

(02:01:24):
Dante forever. Dante knows, you know, and Dante knows that
Sid was up to no good. I mean, maybe he
doesn't have the immediate experience that Anna has for sure,
but I don't think he'd be the one to take
it as straight and face value. That Laura's immediately guilty.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
I think she may be, think because Anna really is
dealt with Symbell directly and knows all what the lucky
study that makes you think of that. I guess, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
I mean, it's also true that if Sonny is involved too,
like Dante really has to excuse him from all this, yeah,
because of the close ties and everything. So then if
he's not involved in it and it's just eighty eight turner,
she's gonna that Laura would have no nobody really there
within the PCPD kind of fighting.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
For Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, I'm curious just how how
long Fidel Hughes is taking her break too, because like that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
Says something I heard, so I heard her coming back soon.
She's saying hurt this week. I haven't heard the week
I heard his car or you soon, So we'll find out.
I guess what kind of I hear. It's a short break,
so I heard, but I haven't heard a day or dates.
I've just heard that it's she's coming back soon, let's hope.

Speaker 2 (02:02:44):
So yeah, it's also weird that like Jason is not
clocked and had a reaction to Annabad because I feel
like he would know that something's up with that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Yes, yeah, because that's that's not because like they was
just like, oh, she's with WSP doing some I'm like, she,
why would you guys think she would be doing working
with them again, Like it's just it's really weird. Yeah,
they're not really say anything about that, So I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
Kids, I've done James. I've done James.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
He's like he's like a zoom meeting that won't end. Yeah,
I've been done already. We did exactly two hours. It's good.
We covered everything. Folks. Thank you almost a hundred people
in here. Thank you so much for joining us today
on this Sunday, for some of you guys, this evening,
this Sunday evening, we appreciate you. We'll be here next week. Well,

(02:03:36):
we'll be here next week, so we'll gore to see
us talking about the General Hospital. I'm excited because the
show has been we really have been going full steam ahead.
So I'll i mean a good points and as we're
going full steam ahead, yeah, I'm many strikes, not but
many storylines. We got Tracy coming back at some point too.
I don't know if she's coming.

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
Back, so yeah. Oh and then also Dead where he
has that little flashback and hit and had a heart
attack with Drew there, like yeah, where he's like, yeah,
we don't want to get involved with fighting Drew. You
know that Ned is going to be geared up from
some sort of payback.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's good. I love you too.
He's look good. He's gonna get down. He's gonna get down.
It is, but he's back, he's doing better, So we're
glad about that. Frank's happy to go. Jackie. I met
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years together, but start eleven next year. We're working at

(02:04:51):
We're working.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
At Frank oh just fresh faced and full of hope.

Speaker 1 (02:04:58):
Well we're neither and we're full of face and I hope.
I don know. I don't have any more around them.
Maybe it's gone, who knows, it might still be there,
who knows, we'll see I don't know that, but we
love you guys. Bye of good Week.