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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Live stream on live stream. Alrighty folks, we're here. I
know it a little late, but you know whatever, we're here.
We made out.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Sometimes you have to talk Mommy dearest.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yes, we we're talking mommy, just in sanity before the
with something. Why not on Sunday? Why not? Hi? You guys,
it's jameson Spotlight. Yes, it's your favorite duo. We're back.
It's me and Frank Moran's not wearing a hat today,
you guys. I know those long tresses of hair. I
love it. It's great we're here talk about what happened to

(00:36):
Port Charles. Thanks for waiting for us these last couple
of weeks. As maybe you know. I went through a
lot of these last couple of weeks and not what
I'm supposed to be doing. It's crazy, but we're we're here.
I'm ready to talk about it. Before we start talking
about it, of course, I mentioned earlier today it was
hate Fest twenty twenty five. Uh, we hated Young and
the Restless. We talked about that first on the Wine

(00:57):
I mean Spotlight, and we hated both and beautiful. So
at that second out of BOBBO mean Spotlight. So both
those are out audio and video for your ear holes
and for your eye holes. Whatever you want to choose,
choose wisely, I'll just watch them listen, like subscribe, you
have the whole thing there are out now. Telly Moore
is in our chat last show, but his cohorts will

(01:19):
be after us at three pm over at Edition Days. Uh,
they'll be talking about days are all Days are our Lives?
What that show is? So go there and talk about that.
So that's on their channel Edition Days, so as you
check that out tomorrow night it is, and just like
that because they're just like that, meaning le may Heller

(01:40):
are back and we're talking about the weird show that
that show is right now, it's Cuckoo Crazy. That's at
seven pm live on this channel. We're talking about how
they ruined Carrying eighty and that's just they ruined them.
I okay. And then on Tuesday it's the last of
the first round of the Soap Post Okay, can never

(02:02):
say it soap host podcast series. I just did you
know Frank is on one of them. Uh, it's me
and Angela Ryan Duncan. You're not gonna want to miss it.
We tell the truth, Shame the Devil. It's gonna be
really good. And that's Tuesday night at seven pm, I
mean seven pm on this PA Pacific.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So yes, but not the last forever.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
No. So that's a good good point, Frank, so because
all the hosts want to do it again. They did
originally when the fan you guys, you guys have responded
the views that that was just amazing. We're gonna start
up again. What would do is I'm gonna switch them
off again. So want me to say we'll be the
same groups. So now Frank will be with somebody else
and somebody else I don't just get ready, So we're

(02:45):
gonna work it. We're gonna work in all out kids,
I got. I'm gonna have fun with this. I was
about doing all things in a hat, just like picking
hats and picking groups. So we'll see what that is.
That is.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Tammy's my safety blanket.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
You can't any more. Don't tell you go every year.
Uh you ain't, cannus Mac because we're putt you guys together. No,
I forget what's gonna happen. So we're gonna do it again.
But this Tuesday is our last of this first round,
and I just want to thank you guys for checking
out Daytime today also, but asked Frank two, while we're
here today, we have a lot to talk about. The
Daytime Emmy nominations came out. So our annual Daytime Emmy Specials,

(03:20):
All the Shade in the World, Me Walker, Ragsdale, Jerry
Wagon and Cannas Back gave it to you for two hours.
So go ahead and check that out on Daytime Emmy Specials.
We give our predictions, we gave our snubs, we gave
the whole thing and shade. It's all there and it's
glory and thanks everybody for watching listening to that. So
that's out now to We're gonna We're giving you content, kids,

(03:41):
We're giving you content. We have a we have our
latest audio drama is out right now. It's called Fairvrue
Heights City Hall. Is actually really hilarious and linking to
the day. Five episodes are out and two more left
and now Be that's out now. Also Air Woman season
two that's out now too. We have a good Both
of those are great, so we so check those hours

(04:03):
are layers. We have more audio dramas coming, so just
check those out now. They're out now. Doing that, I
think that's everything. I gotta try my fan. Oh, Frank's
so hot that he's got me hot bothered? Well, thank you,
don't tell Flobo. Okay, in trouble, Okay, Franks is half

(04:26):
jas must be good that I don't mean. I don't
mean anything, you know Frank mdor I usually know Frank
by now, I don't mean anything. It's good.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
There you go. Yeah, that's that's so. I said, man
was on fire. No, they're out.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I got so before we start, because we have not
been off for a while, and I want to know
Frank's thoughts on this too. But we also want to
get first daytime lost a legend, Eileen Fout and she
was ninety one years old. She played Lisa and all
her last names on As the World Turns. She also
was a writer. I just posted her books today, actually
the writer with a good writer. Without her, without the

(05:05):
Lisa character in the fifties on As the World Turns,
there would be no Erica Caine. There would be no
Vicky Buchanan. Lord Buchanan, would be no Dorian, There'd be
no Tina, there'd be no Carly. There'll be none of them.
There were there were. She was the first. She was
the first bitch of daytime. So it's it's it really is.

(05:27):
It really is a loss for our community. Uh, let's
get her. We gave her a tribute on our other show.
Because of CBS, we did that. So I'm going sure
to mention that Frank took his hat off to honor
Doctor O's return. That's funny. That's good. Also, kids and kidlets.

(05:47):
A sad note. My friend and just and just a
great guy, Tristan Rodgers is in a hospital sick with cancer.
I scot which cancer. I was son Frank before the show.
I feel like, what cancer it is? But I mean
contact with people behind the scenes, so I have friends
with him, and it's just sad. It's just really sad.
He's fighting it. He's a fighter. If you want to

(06:09):
hear a great story, Uh, it was a TV actually
I interviewed him for Studio City, he tells, and I
actually did a clip it's on my channel where he
was almost Mad Max and he had between Mad Max
and Scorpio. So to hear that whole story and all that,
it's like maybe five minutes long, but it's a clip.

(06:30):
I have it all my channel. Check that out. So
I think it's I think he just goes just like
just type in Tristian Rodgers, mad Max and why he
chose which one and which one? Literally he could have
had no gifts. It's a it's a great story. It's
a great story. Uh and and so check that out.
But he I partied with him, I've had drinks with them,
I've eaten with him. Uh. Just a really nice, really fun,

(06:52):
nice guy, talented actor. So that's why I just I'm
afraid I don't want to say a few words. I mean,
we like, we like Robert.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh, he's he's great. I mean that was you know,
I yeah, just one of the characters that I really
enjoyed on the show. It's like when he was off
Canvas for a while, it's like, oh boy, I really
missed having that. And so whether he you know, he
should back up on night Shift or uh, you know,
or that he kind of made his return back to

(07:20):
g H you know in you know, for me, I
always have such a soft spot for all those legacy characters,
and so I always feel like, you know too, you know,
you can never have too much of those guys because
they have so much. All those characters have such history
and story potential. So it's like you know more, Robert
scopia is always great. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's stuff.

(07:43):
I feel anybody, you know, celebrities or regular people, they
treat health issues differently. Some are very you know, keep
it very private.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Some are very public about it and share, you know,
and uh, you know after the fact, and Cannon keep
it you know, if they've passed. It's also still very
quiet as well too.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You know, Robert and his family, assuming Robert Tristan and
his family, uh, you know, are being you know, kind
of public about it. But it feels like, you know, uh,
we're saying we're I mean, what we saw this week
was like our last.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That we're feeling. Yeah, I heard, you know, so yeah,
so I say, he looks so frail on Friday. So well,
let's talk about that right now, because that's this is
this is another shocker they've been. They've been, I mean,
it's been on the side. Sausage is gone. So so
Sophia Matson is actually off the now, off the canvas.
Did not know that. I didn't know if that was happening.
I did not know that at all that was happening.

(08:45):
So and in fact, they chose to go to Roberts
and Holly. I thought, okay, I get that's an ending.
I'm okay with I know how you feel about that,
I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I agree, especially in light of and maybe this was
all timed to be together where it's like, you know,
this release is coming out on the last day that
we're going to see him on air. It's a way
for all the fans and be able to see, like
how you know that he has, you know, a happy ending.
He's with the woman he loves and he has one
of his daughters and granddaughters with him as well, and

(09:16):
so maybe that's you know, like that, that's the happy
ending that you get to see for Roberts Cocorpio and
then you know, sometime in the next year or two,
hopefully not. I hope all goes well, but you know,
I feel like you don't put a release like that
unless you hear your you know, I.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Felt the same way. I to say it out loud,
but I felt the same way. And maybe he does
get better. I mean, this may be the last we
see him on Scream and he is older, and I
think I think we didn't need Holly there. They wisely
had Jason Lee for certain parts. It was good. It
was good just to have him because I agree with you.
I feel like it was like a little bit of
a tribute kind of just like you were there, Jason,

(09:53):
you were there for by one daughter. I always forget
about Robin, that Robin and Saucer I have siblings. I
totally forgot about that you were there for one daughter.
Now you from mine. That was like a total, like
lifespan kind of comment. I was like, I agree, So
it's one of those things. I just feel like that
was a good that's a that's a good stenough for
him to if if this is it, I mean, I
would love to have him on the show. I mean,

(10:14):
I'm not saying nothing about the show. I was back,
like John Jay York came back. But just in case
he does that, that was pretty good. That's a that's
a I can say. I'm satisfied with that.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean, you know, because we're talking about this,
I mean sure I could be nippicky and want a
little bit more meat on the bone for Robert and
slashes scenes, but also Tristan, if you you know, going
through all this, yeah, maybe very tired. As people were saying,
you look trail you don't give him a lot to do,
but you just you give him some stuff, so you know,

(10:48):
I can understand, like he said on the couch, the
majority of the time didn't it didn't move, So you know,
uh yeah, given all of that stuff, I'm just happy
we got we got to see it, and you know,
hopefully fans could you see that is a little bit
of a closure for the character. And I'm sure even
though Sophia is done with the show in a year

(11:08):
or two, you know, whenever that time comes, uh you know,
and they want to and something and Tristan does, unfortunately
pass and they want to pay tribute to Roberts and
I'm sure she would come back her and Emma for
you know, whatever funeral.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You have for that feeling. So, Kimy McCollough, I should
come back to you, Yes, I should come back to
you that this something happens. I'm fine with this, it's all.
It's good, but.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's still sad regardless it is. I mean seeing you know,
isn't anybody suffer through through dealing with an illness like that,
let alone somebody that you've you know, for people who
are fans of his, that have enjoyed his worked throughout
the years.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. So Saussa's off, I'm fine
with that's good, give right homego cry for two years. Shit.
I like that girl. I mean that access did so
much the last many years. They put her through, that character,
through the Ringer. I'm okay with having a little break.
That's why I get it. People are saying, there's jen
said officially there's no plans to recast, but we know

(12:10):
how that could be. People are already saying, I've seen
you guys out there trying to mention you thinks should
play the role because of Warre Gibson. So I I
think right now they probably don't have her recast. They
probably probably are gonna probably gonna arrest the character. It's
okay to rest her. I think it's fine. We have
the whole Willow and that family stuff happening. We can

(12:31):
focus on that. So I'm good. I'm fine. How you
feeling fine?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm fine with him, yeah, you know, and it's you know,
I feel like it's good to rest. Yeah, and we
see what happens with Tristan as well. Yeah, you know,
and if if I haven't forbidden, the worst happens, you know,
maybe that that's the next time we see Sasha and
it is Sophia playing it. Yeah for that, and then
you know that's the like, that's the thing that you

(12:58):
know helps her come into hiding. By that time, you know,
the Willow Drew creepiness with Daisies all revealed and everybody
knows it. So at that point, you know, maybe maybe
Sasha comes back, maybe Sophia wants to come back. Maybe not.
Maybe they do, you know, maybe at some point a
recast comes in. But I feel like I'm good with

(13:19):
them not doing a recast until after we see how
life kind of develops and happens with Tristan.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I know, money brings out. Why give Michael her Michael child,
who's gonna leave? What was the point? It's for future storyline,
I think I think I said, your same money. But
I think for future storyline, the possibilities are endless. So
she goes away for a while and she's not so
Michael a child out there and she's out there, she's
connected to the Scorpion and there's a whole For me,
It's okay, I feel like they could they could bring

(13:48):
this thick the character back with the child. I mean,
it's gonna be fine. I think I think this this case,
I think it can work because sure she could stay
on the show and they could have done this whole
two story and he didn't have a people in. There
was chemistry between Roryan's and Sophia. I get it. I
saw the chemistry. But I'm okay with this part. This
part isn't bothered me. So it's like, because the canvas
is very it's a very large canvas and large cast.

(14:11):
So I'm okay with resting her for a while because
she can come back easily.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, and you know, the nice thing about a character
being away for a while is that you can they
can bring a story with him. Yes, and it would
be great, you know, for Sasha to come back with
something else in her pocket and not just be like.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh my baby, my child. I mean, we need some
something else from her. So I agrees, I'm okay with them.
I see you're saying when, but I'm okay with this one.
And so on, I'm like, good, we'll rest her for
a second, because I mean, I'm sorry, there's a lot
of lots has been gone, but I have to bring

(14:50):
this up because I just because just in just in
two scenes. I was like, she's back, and that is
doctor Obrecht when she walks in and I give poison.
That kid's name was Finn in real life, ironically, but
he plays Rocco. I liked their scene together. I kind
of liked it, and he actually the kid was good.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I enjoyed that as well too. Uh yeah. And there's
just the way that the Oatbrekt is just like her directness.
He's just great.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
He was a ass. My daughter she was a mess, yes,
she said. I laugh, She's so direct. I love she
said she's a mess. My daughter was a mess. That
is the most honest thing you can say, right, That's
what I mean. She was a mess.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So great.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And I feel like a Lisa is aware of her.
You know, she knows what she's done in her past,
so she she puts no illusions on her actions as well.
I don't know. I feel like that's a great character.
She's very sharp and shrewd, and I feel like that
really paid off this week, both in the the sweetness
side of it, you know, with Rocco, but then also

(15:59):
like what she's like Nina your daughter in danger girl.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh my god, that I laugh, Oh my god. All
love those scenes. But first she's like a lie, I
love he was happy to see you. Of course you are.
She was like, and she just I mean, Lisa was
broken down, like because you're in trouble, you have a problems.
And then when Will walks in, Oh my god, those
scenes are hilarious when when she was talking about about

(16:26):
Daisy and them leaving, and Will turns around and starts
to smile, and Lila's like, oh my god, I laughed
so hard and she's like, your daughter smiled like they
ain't the same girl. I'm paraphraid you, which basically saying
they ain't the same girl that when I left your daughter,
you can't afford to like. And Lina was like and

(16:48):
she's and Lisa was breaking it down, like no, no match,
we gotta gotta, we gotta do something. And she brought
up brit because we like that. Do it Britt she
goes and she'll do with me.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
See was honest to honest, And what I loved is like, uh,
like Ava as a friend, you know they can, you know,
kind of push a hold with Nina. That's sometimes you
just need somebody just to kick you in the butt
and say you can't what you've been doing, uh playing,
operating out of fear is not working. You gotta change.

(17:20):
And I'm gonna hear I'm here now, and.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'm hearing guys, I'm here now. You're like, we gotta
get we gotta sever that tie. Immediately, I was like,
you know what leaves like to be anything? Oh yeah,
that's my love. That's why I love that character, because
that character can cross the hall. It can be from
rude ol to nice. She can do all of it.
But when she saw Willow, she's like, that bitch is crazy.

(17:44):
You know you want to say that your daughter's crazy.
There's something going on there. Liso saw right through it,
and she's seeing right through Nina to like, come on, girl,
we gotta do gotta stuff. Like you said, how I'm
trying going on grappling when she sees when she sees
will what I'm grappling with house their voted mother who
carried a baby to term with stage four cancer, lost

(18:06):
her child. Yeah, anyways that night and and really like no, man,
that's not it. And then and then when and then
and it's just influence over her. We gotta get rid
of you. Basically, she's like that, that's what we gotta do.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, it's we're what I know, we all love we
love Bret, and you know, I mean looking back on this,
you know, I mean, I guess you can see the
ebbs and flows of characters like that where it's well,
I guess we see as much as we love them,
why they are kind of put on the shelf for
a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah, because when they come

(18:44):
back like this, they can immediately just impact the story. Yeah,
and it is great. And if those characters were always
ever present, it would make it harder for people to
get for Needa to get into the posiness she's in
right now. Because the home workers always there, she would
have this much sooner, I agree. So now, yes, Oh
break is back. I'm sure she is not here just

(19:06):
because of this. She's also got the Brit stuff. Who
knows what secret she's got in her pocket that relates
to that, Yes, So yeah, there's some good stuff that's
coming with the Oh Break back.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes, I love it, and I just I just love
she clocked her body. And you know, the thing is,
I was glad that she's here more than just the
whole Brit stuff. I'm glad she has a family and
that's all things. Like you said, I'm the matriarch. You know,
a good matriarch would do that. And she said. I
was like, that's right, girl, why not girl? And she
has all these girls, she has this whole family, she

(19:37):
really does. And they mentioned Maxie because as we know,
as we know, homegirl's gone too since we left.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Boy that given her announcement, I was expecting something bigger
for her being gone, right, But then nope, she's just
she's just the New York kind of trip. Yep, So okay,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I did, so, yeah, that's it, I say, so maxill
on there, So she got mentioned here in New York.
You know, James is close to his Lea's his grandma Liso.
So that's there's that. But I think everybody chat, of course,
yes we do. Liebody loves a break, and I agree
with you. I think because she's been gone now she
can come in. She's like, gosh, she's the fans basically like, okay,

(20:21):
it's too much, so we gonna give you got handle nails.
It's it all too much because I will give Kay
McMullen credit. But you know, I've never had any use
for Will all this whole time, I kind of like this,
well a little bit. It's kind of it's making me
a little more, it's making her more interesting. And she's
kind of cooking crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I mean when she has that kind of just
weird smile, it's like, well, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I was like, alrighty making them phone call.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, and now that I hope you see how hard
that is, you'll reconsider me seeing wile like, oh that
was the wrong. That phone call guarantees you're not seeing it.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, And and and the fact that Drew goes to
Carly's house basically have the same conversation over and over again.
Carli is not gonna budge. She hates your guts. She
thinks you're He's not gonna budge. You gotta get Michael
or else He's gonna he's gonna need it. He's like,
get it. Yeah, And I'm like what I'm like. And

(21:25):
he saw his plan later. But the whole thing with
the card, he said, like, stop trying to put them
in the same orbit. We get it, they used to
be together. Blah blah blah. Nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
The thing that kind of bumps me out about Drew
in the way, like I'm all about him being, you know,
a bad guy at this point. That's great, but he
too many of the scenes. I feel like a lot
of whether he's going to Nina, whether he's going to Portie,
this scene with Carly just it's like Drew just we
have a lot of scenes with Drew where he goes
to the people that he's got something on and just
keeps like, hey, you know you're gonna do this, because

(21:55):
if not, this is gonna happen. And then then we
just leave and then he's gotta come back again. And like,
you know, Porscha, if you don't do this, just at
some point, Drew, you just gotta like, don't don't have
the Carl scene. Just blow Michael's lafe up. Don't have
another Porscha scene. Just blow Porscha's life up. You know.
It's like, how many times you gotta get Curtis on board?

(22:17):
You gotta get you better, you better work hard, you
better get him, Like, no more of those scenes.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But I did. I had a chuckle. I know it
wasn't a funny scene, but I had a chuckle because
he does that. And so when when he left, Porsche
was done, like us, she was done. I was like,
I totally laughed. She when she was looking around the
room and she was getting she was like, oh my god,
she was so done and she had her her with

(22:44):
diploma and she threw that. I was like, that's how
we feel. Like what Frank just said, like stop, I mean,
maybe that's the point Frank, but he doesn't, so he
just keeps kneeling her and kneeling her and kneeling her.
That she's like and when she was like, was at
the Curtis, Okay, I'm done. This is it. We basically
I don't care paraphrasing, but she basically was like you

(23:06):
better trust and believe We're done with this shit right now.
I'm done. We're done. We're done. We're done. That's it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I love that scene because I was like, yes, finally, Portia,
just take you accountability for your own actions in this
and then knock out and take out Drew's power out
of everything.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes. Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And then I was bummed the way they wrote Curtis
in that scene where it's like you know you are
you sure? I know again the coddling of Trina, like
Trina's gonna be devastated and she knows you did this,
Like no, no, No, your mom made a mistake. She
was dumb in that moment, and you know that's why
she's in this situation. She you know, that was her
own fall and none to do anything to do with Trina.

(23:43):
Your mom was just way of a paranoid on this stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yes, that's all I was, and I grew to completely.
So I was like, well, she's stole in that rooms.
She's like, that's it. I'm just I'm done. That's it.
And I'm like, now here's what I don't I don't
want to see her fighting with with fucking what's her name, Jordan.
I don't care about that. This is what I want
to see. I want to see Porscha go. That's it.
I am tied of this m effort, and we gotta
do I don't care if we're together or not together.

(24:08):
We gotta stop this and I'll take the lumps. But
she goes, I'm not going with Her speech was really good.
The right up. I'm not gonna knowingly take down Michael
medically and a family that that's that's that's totally different.
She's trying to stop somebody. Now actively I might drew you,
just you just don't get you. So you don't care anymore.
You're gonna do whatever you want. She's like, no, that's it.

(24:30):
And then when kai, oh my god, I have loved
these scenes. When they all went went finally, Trina and
Porscha finally and Curtis. They all were like, Okay, we're
done with you. And she was like, he was like,
but I had to tell the truth, and yeah, and
he's so wide eye. He's playing really well. He's so
wide eyed and innocent looking. But she was like, but

(24:51):
my family comes first, and I love what Porscha was like,
you were in my house over hearing my counselations or
my husband, and you felt the need you to just
we're just run your mouth. You see. I'm paraphrasing together too,
but she basically said that it's like, you know, I
get that he's trying to be honest and everything, but
it's also showing that he's under Drew spell too, so

(25:12):
to speak, the Weaver experience. But I was like, I'm
glad portion of them got mad at them. They're like,
come on, folks, like you were just you just gonna
tell when you guys are going to playing Anna lie,
you're gonna lie on him. I'm like we get that's like,
like Stelle said, that's noble, but like when you're any
favorites that whole family was like bye, like you said,
stop calling Trina. She's a grown ass woman. You don't

(25:34):
need to. She's been through some shit. You don't have
to coddle her anymore. Like just like she said, I
wish you could just tell me what's going on? Like
what's going on? I stopped trying. I didn't want to
tell you. That is this between and your mother, Like
come on, let her in on it? Like what are
you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Family? Family's messy and you know, nobody's perfect. Uh, you know,
and Trina is, as you said, going through stuff. There's
no need to keep feeling like you need to be
like compartmentalizing and protecting trains and so Curtiss, Like even
Curtis's idea, if he's gonna throw Nina under the bus
and expose that, do you think I'll do it?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
You think I'll do it?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
But if that's his plan, and that's why he's saying
to Porch like say anything, yeah, because let me do
this first? Why why because Drew could just then blow
up Porscha Still like great, that that truth is revealed,
then Drew just blows up Porsche's life. So why don't
you just let Porscha just just go there first, take
out Drew, and then if you want to blow up

(26:32):
Drew's life after that and go for it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, the thing I'll understand either too. It's the whole
Nina story. I mean, you Tracy. I love seeing Tracy together.
That was good. That was like, that's a whole good scene.
Like you want to respilate everything, you know, conversation, but
to have them put out that so Curtis puts out
I thought's gonna do the whole Nina Drew thing, but
he did put the article in. We knew SAIDs would

(26:56):
go to Nina, but she does. May just tell them
I'll be black byba. Tracys Quarterman was like, so you
could do that, but you can't tell your daughter just
slept with me. I mean, it's just kind of like
I don't understand what's going on. It's like, so they
published the article. Part twos were even worse. Why do
you just go to Sunny first and say I'm gonna
I'm gonna I Well, I know you think she did
try to go You did try to see me anyway.

(27:18):
I just just kind of weird. It's like, Okay, well,
so he's not mad at her because he knows she's
being blackmailed. But I don't know. It's just like they're
dragging out this thing where Nina has she has this information.
If she just tells it, it would all explode. If
she just told it would all explode. Actually, I think

(27:38):
if she, if she told that, that will protect Porsche
a little bit because everybody focused on that that made
Drew won't even have a chance and go to Porsche
and be bothered with her.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So yeah, but I'm sure because if he knows that
Drew's the one that revealed it, or I mean Curtis
is the one that revealed it, of course you go
blow up Porsia's life. Like if Kurt Yeah, I mean
if if Nina said it herself, maybe, but if Curtis
blows it up in the in the uh in one
of Aurora's publications, for sure, Like it's like, so Curtis

(28:12):
just let portion just do her big go to the
medical board. There's also we're operating in a world where, yes,
some people have gone to jail for stuff that they've done,
and other people have not, so you know you got
to run, you know again and take your chances at
the table and maybe you win and maybe you get dinged. True,

(28:34):
it's got whatever way, at least you're out from under
Drew's thumb. They cannot be.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I mean, I love the first thing. They're like, they're done.
You can tell they're done. But I'm answering a chat
because to be fair, Kay hasn't seen the side of Drew.
But that's Why's what I'm saying. This is my point.
He's under a spell. But his coaches says kinda abounds
asked what you did to Curtis? He never asked. He
assume they're being mean to him because he helped her

(29:00):
because and actually Drew got you surgery, but it didn't
help you and you're playing football, so why are you
so So it's it's it's a it's a savior complex thing.
We're just looking up to him. So I'm just saying
that still, if you're in my house, it's my business,
none your business. And it goes back to that it's
none of your business. I always stand by that if
it doesn't affect you and it has nothing to do

(29:21):
with you, and you overhear something. It's none of your business,
isn't your business, doesn't your business? Tell anything you want to.
She went to train her first day. I heard this
thing and she said maybe. She said to her, he's
eating me alive. He's so got me me. And we
never got that conversation. She's just like, he was like,
I'm gonna tell, and he told, and it felt, it felt,

(29:43):
it felt just so disjointed. So I'm glad they had
the tree that go off on I'm glad. I'm glad
he did, and I'm glad that they had Porsch go
off on him. He will try to explain himself like
I don't care, but nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
How fast he went from like hey I even portion
to like hey, you were great for my daughter, but
you're out.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You're out, You're out. And then with Curtis, I was like,
you know, sir, I had no use for him either,
And then Drew walks in. Of course it was okay,
you know, we're fine, but you have to have kai
go from remorse so a little bit to like I
stand by my I did. I had to do what
I had to do, and blah Blah'm like okay, well bye,
I mean, I have no use for you anyway, but

(30:22):
so by, but it was it was none and chat
with me. It's nothing. I mean to me, it's none
of your business. You had no reason to say anything.
You heard it. I shouldn't have heard that. It is
none of your business. But also you should got both
sides in the story. If you're if you're you already
heard you like I don't know why you're after me,
so to speak, but like you should have heard from them,
like I'm sorry, what's going on? Like you know, why

(30:44):
do you guys hate something like the should have been
a conversation.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Uh yeah, And I don't know if it's like kind
I could just go work for for Drew in DC
now at this point, yes, and you could be just
gone from the show, like I don't really any reason for.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Ky to be around.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, but you never no need to drag out like oh,
you know the treat of seeing him at like some
event or some kind of public outing and long to
look at him. It was too hard on him.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
No, dazy fo is a good point. Remember I forgot
about this point. Remember him and treated agree to stay
out of it. They didn't have that. I forgot about that.
I have I forgot what they did say, what would
you stay out of it? You said, my parents can
handle themselves. That's why they had that conversation. I forgot
about that part and see thank you at Daisy Flower.
I forgot about that part. They did agree to stay.

(31:35):
So he broke. He broke the whole thing by telling, well,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Mean, it doesn't help that Kuy is also working as
his intern as well. So it's one thing like if
that internship, that internship wasn't there, it wouldn't have happened.
But when you're working with somebody, that's just one extra
layer where Kai feels like, oh, it's my boss, and
who's done this stuff? And so I guess he before
thinking he just then I gotta tell you something, curt

(32:02):
news and to go to.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
They say, go to your point, Frank. I mean, there's
so Tracy knows that Nina and Trew step together, we're
seeing together. Drew knows they're sleeping together. She told Curtis.
Curtis knows. So there's three people does this portion can
this portion know? No? Avas we have four people who

(32:28):
know interested that I know of, I think who knows?
So someoney here thinks it's gonna be at the wedding.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Then the wedding can't come to soon enough because I
just need this to move on and I need Willow.
I need Nina to just like Lisa said, you like,
you know, like operating out of fear. Stop it. I
need Nina just like hold her truth through the Willow.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
This is what we did.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Tracy has max Maxi knows too, a Maxiican show, so
she knows. Tracy has a video. Yes, oh oh yeah, Neddie,
Cody knows. That's why. That's why Cody, you two, That's
why Cody knows and Ned knows. I feel who killed Drew.
I keep saying that I think it's we kill. I

(33:22):
think it's gonna be a who shot or who stabbed
Drew storyline is gonna happen, and there'll be all these suspects.
So that's that's what I'm thinking. I've said it a
long time ago. I guess we're.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Maybe it'll be Kai that that that shoots Drew. Uh.
You know it's like maybe now Trina will take me back.
I took care of Drew for you, Trina, and then
we'll have fun in prison Kai.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, so that's that's so, that's basically that storyline. At
least Michael and Kurs are working together and say know
what's going on. I'm glad Michael knows what was going on,
so he's kind of involved there. Tracy is trying to
save Geo, so periphery, she's on this side of it
because it all ties in, So it all ties into
the other big story, Frank, which is the Sunny story.

(34:13):
I should say Sunny and Laura story. Basically it is
both of them. I guess it ties into that, which
makes me laugh because I mean homeboy chewing that scenery
when he comes on the show and he plays Ezra Boyle,
he choose that scenery with no shame, no shame in
his game at all, which also sorry, which also ties
into those side notes. Okay, so we have, as read,

(34:40):
all of them trying to fight fun stuff with the
first sea of a se You have Sidawell behind all this,
but that's another story. It's a big and brothers. We
have Sidwell, we have Jordan, we have those two. Laura
is like I'm related to him through Rocko. Okay, we
got that. I guess the thing with Deception is still

(35:01):
going on. Because Sonny has that little arm too. I
guess they were talking about in a while.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I guess he's gonna divest himself now given all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And he kind of said I can't get out either
day designed him something that he told Carly and I'm
just staying in. I mean, I mean, I think I
can get out now, he said, I.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Mean I think because of the Simbel thing, Like as
much as Sidwell wants that stuff, like, Sonny just doesn't
want to give it to him if it's gonna make
port Charles worse.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Right, So you have that arm. Going to Jason of
course is part of that arm. And the Connectic kidnapped Marco.
I had to laugh a little side note when Lucas
and and Sonny. Son Lucas like, I don't have time
for you. I don't care what you think. You let
him go. You gotta tell you where he is. I

(35:52):
know you got him. He's like judj you want, like Judge,
you want, you don't care. Sonny does not care. And
Marco tried to get out. He tried, yeah and something
like he's annoying. Were all yelling at there, He's annoying.
I had laughly said that, so the Italian's wedding. It's
so it's wedding funeral. It deserves everybody show up. Nobody

(36:12):
cares about her Blazy even come back for it. So
who cares.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
That's true when your own mom or your daughter does
not come back, come back for it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
So, like I thought, it was hilarious and all that
went the Sidwell sunny thing went down at Italia's funeral.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And there was nobody else, like we never saw what
happened afterwards, Like that was there was just that casket
and it was gonna be Sidwell, Lucas I marco it
maybe that was it it.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And I mean Sidwell's intentions are becoming more and more clear.
I think I really do believe this functure may not
agree with me and high sixty four people watching, how
you guys, I really do believe that Sidwell didn't think
anybody was inside. I think I don't think you trying
to hurt Christina.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
No, because he even said that, you know, to to
Selena Wosman that he hired, is like you're supposed to
do that without anybody inside.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
So I believe that part it just happened. She got
in there. So so Sonny is reacting the way he
always reacts. This is not a surprise. And I think
having Lucas go to Carly to talk to Sonny was
hilarious too. But when car you talked to him, I mean,
the thing is I was saying, I was saying to

(37:29):
Day on one of my zooms, I feel like Sonny
and Carly Well they get back together, they're done, but
they are co leaders of this family unit, this blended
family unit, and so they seem more like that, and
I kind of like it, and so I liked her.
She talks to him and she knows him, and he's like,

(37:50):
I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm gonna do you know,
I'm not gonna you know. And at that's why I said,
you kind of said like you couldn't get out of
this now. He was trying to get out of it.
That's the whole thing. You wanted to sell off the stuff,
get out of it. You can't. Sidwell is not the
ante and he hasn't one to go to Sidwell That's
why I love him. And Laura they both agree Sidwell
is not this innocent guy. He's not they believe it.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, because what I like, I mean to a shade
less with Laura, but with Carla, because like his conversations
with Anna or anybody else, it's always kind of like, well,
you know, my alleged activities, you know, because you were
on opposite side of the law. So for that, but
with Carl it's like, yeah, we don't have to have
Sunny kind of playing sort of koy about stuff. For Vague,

(38:36):
it's like no, no, no, yeah, you can just have
a conversation where he's like, yeah, straight up, this is
what the deal is, which is good. But you know,
it's like if the shoes were verse, Sutile would be
doing the same thing this studdy was doing. You know,
if I sudden he made a play and Marco accidentally
got you know, stuck in a place that you know,
was put in danger, so I feel like Sidwell would

(38:56):
have retaliated on that. So I don't know, I mean,
we can't keep It's something that something's got to change,
like for for for the Sunny thing, like the show
really needs to decide do we do we commit to
trying to do a story where Sonny tries to get
out or or you know, is it all tied into

(39:17):
like when if there's an end game for uh, you know,
for Sonny on the show entirely, and we're saving we're
saving that storyline from when we know that that he's
gonna be leaving the show. I don't know, but I
just feel like, you know, we're just kind of we're
kind of just kind of stuck in this pattern and

(39:38):
it's just you need something really to happen.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I don't know. Do you feel like that, James, Yes,
I feel like, well, what you're saying, I think what
you're trying to say is that we're going in circles, Yeah,
circling the exit. We're not going through the exit, We're
circling it. And I think at some point where is
gonna leave the show obviously, and I have an idea
what's gonna happen with that, but that's not for a minute.

(40:05):
So right, I was circling the drain and that's what
it feels like. And I think and and I fact
like as they're circling, they're gathering more dust and dirt
and byproducts because in that cycle it's geo. Now they
made that part of it. Also, when Tracy go on
trying to save him, Jason said, and you said the
chat Jason said it he's a grown man that him

(40:27):
figure this stuff out like he's a grown man. And
so you can tell Geo doesn't want to be away
from his grandfather. He wants to be part of that.
So we'll see how that plays out a little bit.
But it keeps circling and circling and circling, and it's
adding things in there. Natalia was part of that too
on some level, right, So that's like they have these
all these things around here. They're just adding on to

(40:49):
the whole thing, which is sunny leaving the mob.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Charles plus the man is two years to you for
like Maurice the show, like saying like I'm good at retiring,
see you later.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
You think two years? You said two years?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
What do you think, James plus or minus two years?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I would have said sooner, But it might be he's
having a good time right now. I don't know personally
he's had a good time, so I think right now
he's good. It depends on the depends on the show,
sting on the air, that's on that and if they
keep him happy right now, he's happy. When he's happy
so what he's playing, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
But but happy in this kind of storyline, we're just
kind of circling and circling.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I think from what what I've heard, it's okay for
right now because he's like, he's on the road. These
are other stuff right now. So he's like, it's it's
he's I think he's okay right now. M hm. So
I don't know. I mean, it's it's just it's he
saw me. He wants the paychase on the show. I mean,
that's kind of that's part of it. I think it's
like if you if you get out of the mob fast,

(41:58):
you have to do what It's almost sopranos, right. I
was just some ut the ending the other day with
my brother. So I liked the ending. I thought it
was hilarious. I thought something was wrong my TV even
it first happened. Oh my god, it went out, so
folks don't know this. It faded to black and nobody knew.
We didn't know it. Just the song was playing. It
just stopped. So everybody kept saying, Tony soprano either have

(42:18):
to die or go to jail. That's like the mob
answer two things. Studies in the same boat kind of
either has to die or go to jail or go
or go away. I guess. So yeah, So it's kind
of like it's like he's right now, he's fine, and
so it's like it's keeping on the show until he's ready,

(42:40):
I think, until he's ready to go, and then I
think the story was in a much different turn. That's
all I can say. I'm not a writer on the show,
but I'm saying I distance from what I'm deducing, So
you get a right to feel. We feel the way
we feel because it's just true. I mean, it's just
kind of like because storyline wise, it's not moving forward
a lot, but I thinks is what he wants right now, and.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Maybe it's just the I don't know, maybe what I
because because I feel like when I see everybody piling
on Sonny, which makes sense, whether it's Sidwell, whether it's true,
whether it's Tracy Boyle, a combination thereof all you know
banded together, which makes sense. Hey, you know, we made
out all like each other, but we all have a

(43:24):
common foe, which is Sunny coments a banded together and
get them out. And maybe my thing is like all
these people are piling on Sonny and like I just
want Sunny, Like, hey, let's see you be shrewd as well.
If you're a mob boss that has run this organization
for thirty years and you've got Brick, you've had Jason,
you've got all these people, can you not be shrewd

(43:45):
back and you know, get leverage on all these people
that are against you to be like all right, you know,
and not necessarily have to resort to mob violence where
it's like I'm gonna, you know, eliminate your son or
hold your family hostage. But it is other, you know,
to a drew k blackmail where I'm getting leverage on
other people to get you to back off on on

(44:05):
me as well too. So we have so you at
least you feel like there's like Souse, I feel like
it just Sundy being headpacked all the time, all these
people and he's just like, want me to do do something, Sonny,
please just do something.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
It's the thing is, well, here's the funny part. So
everything is everything is evolving around him on some level. Right,
So that's a good feeling. You number wanted the call sheet.
Everything a big, big chucker story is a rolling around you.
They brought up Morgan more times we've seen than we

(44:39):
can imagine, mentioning how everybody's getting hurt. So that was
really interesting bringing that up. They brought up Donna and
Avery final the other day. If I brought them up.
He is the picture of this family, so my boss
are not. He's still he's still important to the canvas,

(45:04):
but they really have changed his character to be more downtrodden.
He's very much like he knows what he's done has
been bad. He's tired of being a mob boss. He
wants to be close to his family, but things he
begging away as I fel like they're playing it if
you're playing like so, you're right, he's head packed. He's
also he's been very reactive. It's like things are happening

(45:27):
to him and his family, it's him reacting. So you're right.
He hasn't been very proactive or very aggressive. He hasn't.
He hasn't played that a long time. He's playing more
because of his hard thing. He's playing more down. He's
been the voice of reason many times. Reason is kind
of crazy recently, so they're playing him very differently in general.

(45:47):
I think that's that's I guess part of it also
is that they they're not. They're not. They're not playing
him as cocky, you know, except he gets the Sidwell
he's an att you with Sidwell. Look that's fine, but see,
well we don't know well, we don't have well enough yet.
We don't we don't always flood tensions are yet. So
it's not equal to me yet. It's it's getting there
a little bit, but it's not to me. It's not.

(46:08):
I know it's really Sunny versus Sidwell, but it's not.
I don't think it's there yet.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, it's like I almost want you know, I don't
need to see him being cocky or so mobby, but
I also just want to see him being more cutting
in this where it's like, yeah, let's uh. You know,
you don't have to go full blown like mustache twirling
with Tracy or Sidwell or anything like that, but you know,

(46:33):
use the skills that got you to where you are
right now and say like, all right, you know I
love my family and I want to protect them. And
if I've got to have this leverage over you to
make sure that you back off me and my family
is safe, then you know I'm gonna do that. Yeah,
I just want to Sonny just sitting there in his house.
So I'm like, yeah, maybe they're right, Maybe they're right,

(46:56):
Maybe I should go away. I go oh, enough of
these scenes of Sonny just lamenting, like should I just
maybe I should keep my distance? Oh okay, whatever, Bah,
they just leave the show.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I think they're trying to show him in a light
of like he's tired of it, he sees that he
can't sustain it anymore, and that and he can't argue anymore.
I feel like they're trying to do that. I feel
like they're trying to show that, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And totally I agree with you, especially as somebody's getting
later in life. You know, you question a lot of
the choices you made. You could have regrets about some
of the decisions and the life that you had and
how that's affected your family as well. Absolutely, but boy,
I feel like we've we've been stuck in this pocket
of Sonny just being so reflective for so long. But

(47:45):
I just need and I don't need him to do
a one eighty, but I wouldn't mind just little hints
and flashes of just like, you know, doing what he
needs to do to just be able to, you know,
get people off his back and just you're like, hey,
let's let's lead our lives. And you know Tracy's point
where it's like and they did, like whoever brought it

(48:06):
up Nina. Maybe it was Anina about like hey, if
study was replaced, you know it could be so Mandy
much worse than she doesn't care because yeah that you know,
whoever's worse is the Geo's not their grandson.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
So so Tracy, we have said if you're watching about
seventy thank you. Tracy is kind of from the fact
of Sonny has been a blight on his fan, on
her family for decades. Yes, they blames so much which
can be drawn to him justice Emily, Jason, I mean agent,
it's a whole list, laundry list, so Michael all this stuff,

(48:41):
so it's completely I see where she She's representing the
Quartermaine so to speak, like see, I get why and
Gea's a Quartermaine and that's and that tracks under what
she does. I love her scenes with Jason, lover her
scenes with Michael. She's no matter what happens, your Quartermaine.
So I'm to treat you that way on some level,

(49:01):
I may fight and fuss with you. I love when
they talk about her, but when it comes down to
brass tacks, that's the one through line they have not
changed with her. It's like, well, no, but your quartermain.
You know, Brooklyn, you're a quarterman. I think Charlwy reminds
me of that. So I think that's what's going on.
That's for her Geo, Yes, now I should. Now she
shares a child with Sonny. Basically I'm started to protect him.

(49:25):
It makes sense. I actually loved when she want to
go see him at the the pool and he kind
of pushed and pulled against it. I was like, Okay,
to me, his acting has gotten a lot better. He's
he's getting better. I think he's getting better, the guy
who plays Geo. They're getting more scenes and give him
direct with the with the younger kids, with these younger brothers,
so to speak, liking with them, and he's getting more scenes.

(49:47):
And I love I love seeing all the Danny and
just on a side note, and I I like seeing
all that. No girls though we haven't seen searanta day.
Then that's fine, uh Georgie. But I'm liking the boys.
But I'm liking it Geo because he is that that
age tupe between them and the older people like right
in the middle somewhere with them. So I'm liking it. Actually,

(50:08):
I'm actually liking that he's you know, he's he's fleshing
out his character a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Uh yeah, you know, interesting, like with like Georgie or Charlotte,
that we're not getting them in so they have them possibly,
you know, relationship puppy love mixes with the Danny slash Rocco,
you know, I mean Charlotte. Charlotte with Danny would be

(50:35):
kind of I don't know, or Georgie and Rocco, who knows.
But yeah, it's interesting that it's just the two guys,
which are great, but yeah, we're not seeing any of
like Charlotte or for for all the big thing that
we made about getting to Charlie back, boy, we we
rarely see her. We don't see her and rarely her

(50:55):
name checked.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Now, I.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Say, one relationship I do enjoy though, is Tracy and Jason.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yes, love it.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Uh yeah, where's where She's like, Hey, Uh, it's great
that you're here, but I just want you know, I'm
not changing and I'm gonna be getting working to get
rid of Sonny.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
And he was like I would expect less. Okay, Okay,
I think it was. I think it was Michael and Jason.
Michael Jason talking and mentioning Tracy and he's like they
both kind of smile, like you know sometimes she's no,
it was no, that wasn't it. It was it was
Sasha and Jason when they're on the plane talking about
Tracy and I love it. It was like she probably

(51:33):
gonna miss me. And I'm sure like they didn't have
a goodbye scene between Tracy and Sasha.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I am too, given how contentious they had their relationship.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, I was supposedly didn't have one, so they didn't
have one. So but I but but them talking about her. Yeah,
I mean Jason again, I would never thought I see
him in the house again ever.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
And when she said when they when and see two
seconds scene will explain everything. It's because of Monica. That's
what you had to say. I'm got it. It's because
of Monica. I went, I want Danny be around his
family the whole thing. I loved it. I thought, that's
just that's exactly what I That's what I need to see.
It's a ten second scene about our dialogue about that

(52:13):
you and I always ask for that all the time.
I just give me this then I then I go, Okay,
now I can buy it. That's why Jason's there. He's
there because of the family, because of Monica. She's getting older,
she loves the kids. I love they had Daisy, which
we should see more maybe later. Daisy and Danny have
this slow relationship thing. That baby is cute. I gotta talk.

(52:34):
All I gotta say is that baby loves Rory Gibson
loves I was like, he does that baby smiles. Oh
my goodness, and I love it and oh my god.
Heast Coast, he told us, are you talking about this
a long time ago? I think is gonna leave Jason
the house too. I think she's gonna leave the house
to Jason. And that was upset Tracy so much and

(52:59):
with full circle for the whole Ally gave the house
to Monica, Monica to Ja. I said, either Jason or Michael.
I think one of the two will get the house.
I didn't want to get the house. That's just that's
just me.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Uh well, him having the house would give him a
reason to stay after Monica passy.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He would say, because she gave it to him, and
so Denny and he can be there.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
The line the house and this is my house, the
Alli Garretts, Macha, no, Monica Garrett's Jason. You know, it's
a whole there's a whole thing could do with that. Yeah,
that's really funny, and that would keep Jason in that
in that circle. And I like Jason with the Quartermains
because he's he's good at Brooklyn. They had a couple
of scenes. He's good with Michael, he's good with the kids.
I I you know, I think they they're finally giving

(53:43):
Jason a little more to do besides just the sunny stuff,
which is so good. I'm that I totally agree. Jasey
said she doesn't mind people leave. She told Michael does
include him the children. She did. She was very sweet
about that, and because she knows because of Monica. That's
the whole point. Because the ninety six people who live

(54:03):
here in this house. I love it. I think it's hilarious.
I love that the Quarry Main house is packed full
of just people. I think I think that's just that
is hilarious. That's a great through line. And so again
with Sasha leaving, its finally her being cooked there, and
also I'm glad she's gone to take a little break.
They have plenty of folks to choose in that house.

(54:25):
So let's see more Ned Olivia, let's see where's Leo? Like,
so there's a lot we can see because you know
they had that he's the part of maybe Mad too.
This is called continuity. Yeah, this was called continuity. Learn
that word. Why wasn't Leo back for the for the
book at the art gallery? That guy who's infat that's
the whole thing. But I was like, but where's ned

(54:45):
Olivia and Leo?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, Leo was all about those octopuses?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yes, yes, I thought, Dang, that sucks. It's like he's
not even back. He's not He's not back.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Now that that uh yeah, that's a it's a shame.
But anything again. You know why I would love to
see Monica on screen, like a recast is great, just
because I don't know, like she's still mentioned as such
an active presence in the quartermain household and being involved
in stuff, even if she's dealing with the health issues

(55:18):
then and just like, man, I don't want to just
hear that her and Jason are having these you know,
having time together, like I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Okay, we got super chat twenty dollars mcfloyd think you
mcfloydn't see a long time. He says things I'm happy about. Oh,
Lina's goodbye to Sasha. Oh yeah, that was good too.
Linda's goodbye to Sasha is truly moving. These two have
been through the Ringer just sink about how they were
when they literally met, when the world's when they were
worlds apart, even different people a week week. Yes, I was,

(55:49):
I was saying, that is part of that too. I've
almost got about that, thanks mg Floyd. I enjoyed that
they kept the Nina Sasha relationship going and then they
had they did have their goodbye because back when it
was our girl Michelle Stafford and she came on as
a lie with Valiantine and all that. I thought. They

(56:13):
have been through a lot together, actually and literally and
I had a chat. Always in the chat and out
there in the world, is like always screaming, she's a
real to funk you screw Willow Sausage is your daughter,
so to speak, like that's the one, and I'm glad
she said it to her. I have two daughters, one
of them and I thought their scenes were very sweet

(56:35):
and I love I did love it too. I'm so
thanks for reminding us, Mick. I did. I once forgot
and I.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Did like when Nina and o Brick and will over
together and way that it's like, no, no, no, Nina
did stand up for Sasha Uh in that moment to
will also, as.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
She said, I love it, she goes, you heard you
got divorced. I didn't say anything I had to or anything.
I love that I tell her anything. I laughed, said
that she's always Nina saw on the defense and yesterday
when she talked to you when I'm sorry to go
back to that that story again, but Nina talking to
lis Al and being so scared, she is really scared

(57:16):
to lose her daughter, and that's real, I mean to me,
that's I'm sorry, folks, that is real. I'm sure she
really is scared about that, and that's been her motive,
and that's been her at least we know that's what
our motivation has been this whole time. But I'm not
telling you. Sure told in the beginning that now it's
just too late. She's going to come across as a

(57:36):
huge portrayal. Now at this point Nina is right. Unless
Willows goes, I'm fine, that would be a shocker. And
she's like, oh well, I wasn't together with them really,
I mean like they really were together right the time,
so she had crushed on her, but they weren't together.
But the old point is, I get where Nina's coming from.
Nina is scared shitless, and we have eighty one people

(57:58):
watching our show for right right now, eighty one they're
watching you, but I watch your Frankly no hair with hair.
I just I think that's that's legitimate. At least we
know what we're frustrated by Nina, but we know why
she's doing what she's.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Doing, understood. But I feel like now is, especially with
liesel Back, is the time where it's like she's got
to do one a on that She's got to be.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
She's got to be the.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
You know, like, I may lose my daughter, but who cares.
I'm going to do what's best for her, uh dad,
My relationship with her, That's.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
My point is kind of like that said. Yeah, now,
I'm saying, by this whole time, at least we've known
what her Other people don't know what their motives are.
At least we know what her motive has been. And
Liso said, you know, you're like a new mother, and
she brought up Brett as we breaks, because yes, and
brand do with me. It's just tough. You finally meet
up and you don't want anything to happen. You don't

(58:57):
want to lose them. And I know for me, I'm
just a little signed note. When I met my daughter,
she was nine years old, I was nervous because I
didn't have her from birth. I was afraid to be
I was afraid to be a follower at first because
I was afraid to be. Like if she says she
hates me, she's like, bye, I didn't know you anyway
for ninety I guess just kind of it's a little
I can almost I'm not saying I'm neant anybody any

(59:17):
stretching the word I would have told I after a man,
I would have been told. But I'm just saying I
kind of get the point of where you're a little
nervous to lose your child and you know you didn't
half in the beginning. I think it's just it's just
it's it's tough.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Just blow your life up, of Nina, Just do it,
and either for you to.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Say, Frank, you're sitting on sidebyes your life. Kenna says,
we were watching Shady Sunday and that's a beautiful couple
of Frank and James. I guess f dues come for Jay.
I'm like, yeah, oh my god, I would like to
say Frank James and Frank franken Jane say, I get.
I guess you go first, Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
No, no, no, I always want to make sure you
go first chance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I can say something that's so dirty. I also say,
I'm surrounded by F's Frank, it's not by fs. There
you go. Yes, in the chat Ah, James's Nina, I'm Nina, everybody,
I'm Michelle Stavannina, the crazy one. No cuts out, it

(01:00:28):
makes makes, it makes Navy give birth. That that's I
want to be uh No, but I just I'm just
saying that I get I go with Frank saying that, yes,
it's not time to come out. I'm saying, but it's
since I get to her home motivation. This whole time,
she's been totally scared and hoping something else would As
many of us do, you hope something else will jump
in and like take care of that. So you don't

(01:00:49):
have to say anything. Nothing else will happen or something
will correct itself. She's hoping that she would she would leave.
She hope me that she would leave on her own.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, but it's also like, I also need all these
people to just be cognizant of the lives they've led, uh,
and the friends that they've had, and the lives they've led.
Where people who've tried to just keep stuff quiet. It
always like, tell me somebody that has thought said something

(01:01:18):
I had a left blown up like that. It just
kept something quiet and it has stayed quiet, and nobody's
ever known that is like, no, well, it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Would have came out anyway she came out. It would
have came out. And but did he flober is a
good point. Kylie did tell me, then, you guys, you
gotta be hard on We'll forget the consequence. That's what
true mother does. She did say that, that's true. Yeah,
it's Collie will She don't care. Carlie Will go. She
will tell you she had double too. She don't care.

(01:01:47):
She was She's a bulldozer. Well, Nina is not a bulldozer.
She's a bulldozer in a weird way. She's not like
that kind of bulldozer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I mean for me, and I always feel like they
want to give her those moments where she's gonna be tough,
but rarely through so like when like after she's done
with Tracy and they give her that moment as she's
walking out where she's like, you know, I'm never gonna
forget this, just say that, Yeah, okay, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Well she said you missed it the wrong bitch. That
sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, I'll see if it actually happens.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, exactly. Now Chet's asking the odds of what if
Willow doesn't care about any and trew like that. That
could be a good twist. That could be a good
twist where she's like, Okay, well we weren't together. I
still love him. You should have told me mom, But
that's that's fine. I still love him. Then that was
that would suck even more actually, because she's like, oh fine,

(01:02:40):
and he'd like, no, we gotta be okay, all this
for nothing. Then you just smiles and he's thinking, well
I still win, so to speak, why you just still win?
But everybody else be like really that's what that's what
that's what we're doing here, Like I'm like nothing, there's
no consequences, like I you know, that's that's the thing.
I mean, that's I mean, I feel like I wish

(01:03:02):
Liesel could gather everybody up together and just like, let's
we need to do this all together and get rid
of Drew and Willow, separate them. I just gathered half
the town whenever it was Okay, what are we going
to do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I mean, I feel like the only thing that could
really start driving a wedge between them and making will
realize what Drew's been up to is the Germany thing, uh,
where he where Drew called that that staff member and
got to obstruct will from seeing Michael like that is
a definite example of Drew deliberately messing with Michael and

(01:03:40):
Willow and their chance to you know, kind of forge
a just a good kind of settlement and how they're
going to handle the kids. Yes, I mean other than that,
the other one is like you know, I mean, Drew
saying that stuff right in front of Whilely but they've
already kind of talked about it and Drew said no no, uh.

(01:04:01):
And then the only other thing is where Drew lied
about being Jason's alibi.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I mean, so those are like the three things for sure,
where like Drew has been like unsavory, but like I
mean the Nina and Drew stuff. Yeah, so I am
totally down for for Willow, especially you know creepy smile like,
oh Sasha's gone, Willow being that's fine, that's fine, that
you know that you and Drew slipt together. That's cool.

(01:04:29):
But I but I feel like those actions words definitely
impacted will are the ones that need to be are
the ones that have to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Uh. Also, we got we gonna try. We want another
part of the story, and I feel like I wants them.
There's so much going on with them. They see about screens.
What else we got was like all of a sudd
all these at least the storyline.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I mean, we've got well, I mean we talked a
little bit about with Rogo, I mean seeing saying oh
brect but then uh yeah, just the whole Brooklyn like uh,
like Lulu, just like unforgivable that Brooklyn did this. She
deliberately did this to it to hurt rock Go, and
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Dante actually believes that she did. But remember you and
I both said she left it out. She put it
in those magazines and and and Lou was right with
the eighth time we were living there. I mean, it's
I mean, it's it's it's lazy. It's it's it's it's
lazy on the writers to have that happen. I mean,

(01:05:35):
that'specially the way it came from the writers. So that
was that was lazy storytelling. It's public because it's public record,
so they could have had him find out some other
way or I mean, there's a way they could have
done it where it could have got to him, but
they have died to have Danny find it. And then

(01:05:56):
it escalated so so we can see Lulu Brooklyn or
slap or whatever. I mean, it's just it's like, I'm
I'm over it already. I'm over both. I'm over this
whole thing at this point. Now, I was kind of like, okay,
we just move on for now and she's done separate.
They're not friends that there will be friends, but it's
just like we're sitting in this messiness. There's nothing, there's

(01:06:16):
nothing happening, and you know, Dante and Chase kind of
made up workwise, so the whatever Chase was like, I
will defend my wife to Tracy or somebody. Yeah, gotta
kind of went on to Tracy a little bit because
she kind of calmed down. Lulu was just like she
just bothered him all the way around.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
So it felt like weird for that Tracy and Chasey like,
I felt like that happened way too late. Yeah, Like
Brooklyn's already had like, oh, I'm not going to do that.
She had already, she had already kind of been close
to the edge of doing something stupid more to Chase about,
but it already stepped back and was not going to
reveal that the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yeah, so she almost did it. She admitted she almost
did it, but said I didn't do it. So I
and I just feel like when they play it, you
almost see that Lulu and Lulu and Brooklyn almost understand
each other on some level, but one of the other
kids in their mouth shut so then it becomes it's

(01:07:16):
just they're fighting. So I don't know if they're going
to eventually make them friends or frenemies or whatever, but
they're all part of the same family at this point now,
so they don't have to figure something out. So and yes,
he's coaster. I brought up last night. I was on
here and people got mad at me when I said
Lulu and Geo hooking up. I said it, and online

(01:07:37):
we were talking about it. I was not the only
one folks said to me last time, James, we saw
it too, and I kept saying, why not. You guys
are like, oh, you would never knew that, he said,
wore he's twenty two years old. That is a grown
ass man, though I aactly, he's not happened before. Frank,
be you bet there, James. Actually I have three youngs

(01:08:00):
is twenty three. But that's our story. But that's but
that's it wasn't a family member or related to me.
But the point is, I'm like, it's not it's not
far fetched, and it'd be different. And I just and
I think I can. I think I can speak for
Frank and this one too. Let's speak for you right now.
We want just different stories told. We don't want the

(01:08:21):
same old, same old stuff told all the time. And
a lot of times these stories go nowhere. They give
us promise that they fall flat, or give us promised
don't finish it, or the pacings so bad you'd we
lose interest, right, So I'm just saying, if they did that,
we find it in bed together. I would be shocked.
That would be a great shocker for me on a Friday,

(01:08:44):
he imagined, and Brookman walks in, Oh my, I would wait.
I could wait till monday. I could not wait till monday.
Or Tracy walks in could not wait till monday because
they played Tracy good. Tracy loves both of them and
she's the only thing she doesn't happen to lose or Brooklyn.
She wants them. She loves them both. So I like that.
But can you imagine, Oh my god, I just I

(01:09:06):
would I would or Dante walks in, I just anybody
could walk in and be like, oh my, that's a Friday. Wow, folks,
you wouldn't you tell me you couldn't wait till monday
and see what happens? Please? Oh come on? Oh like
the fallout would just be amazed and have and have
g'll be defiant and how he was Okay not. You
don't feel sorry or feel bad about it. You imagine everyone.

(01:09:27):
You imagine if it was Brookly walks in and Jill says,
I loved it, okay, you see me in the chat
throughout Morgan and Ava brook Logan on Boneabill. Yeah, I'm
just telling you. I'm just I'm just sad. I am
telling you, Dante wo hit the ceiling of chat again,
any insert whoever. The reaction would be hilarious. Then when

(01:09:50):
it comes out all the other reactions you see Ned
busting up laughing over it. I mean it could be.
It would be wonderful. And it's the other thing Ned
to grandfather. No scenes together, nothing, no, not even try.
I mean, this was wrong with the story. But I'm saying,
I'm just saying that it could. Emma. We like Emma,

(01:10:11):
and I actually think this is cute. Frank, the Emma
and the dog. The dog they get annas in your shoe.
It's kind of cutey have some cut c in there.
I don't mind that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Uh well, I mean I feel like the Emma and Geo,
even though we've kind of enjoyed the kind of their
burging relationship. I mean, it's gonna blow up over this whole.
Uh you know this, so yeah, throw Geo together. You know,
it's like sometimes you just want some milrose place.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Thank you, Yes, Emily was Sonny exactly. Things have trust me,
and I hate that bearing, but things have happened, and
I just think that why not. It's a soap opera.
We know we need we need to get we need
to get some soaping goodness. And I'm just like, come on, folks,
let's do this. Like like Frank said earlier, just do it.

(01:11:01):
No one's talking about it, No more layups. Just like
make the shots, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
And that's one of the things, like you know, you
try it. If it works, great, let run with it
a little longer. And if it's like, eh, this is
not really working, then you just cut it off and
you move on to something else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I say, Court to George to sleep together. You're always
conk okay, portion you think we're together, they should get
together and that portion find.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Out, yeah, or just watching it in the closet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I mean, i'd watch it. But the point is, that's
the point. Like I'm with you, Frank and I we
didn't think completely just like it's almost like at this
point it's like, okay, let you set it all up.
It's all there that is, just just execute, just do it,
so we have to fall out. That's that's what we're missing.
You're right, I'll give you Frank that that's what we're missing.
We're missing a big thing that happen, then fall out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
There's I feel like there's always going to be story,
always going to be story. So keep trying and pushing
and you know, all these different things because they will
give you more story. The fallout, the success of a
story idea great can give you more stuff to work from.
The you know, the fallout from a revelation can give
you more stuff to work out. The failure of an

(01:12:15):
idea can also give you other stuff to work work
from and drive story. All this is we just you know,
just go for it, don't be so so sorry, don't
be so safe, and just you know, keep things moving
at a pace, don't try to where you know, don't
don't overstand. You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I agree. I think it's just it's just it's let's
just get to it. And I sat greet you, forgether.
Just like they set up. It's what, it's ready, it's ready,
it's ready, it's it's in the oven and off it's
time to time to listen. They come on, kids, and
just let's just do this. Because you and I both

(01:12:50):
like exposition. We like things, We like things we explained
and kind of set up correctly, but then we also
want results. Yes, I set you. We need results. I
need results. I mean, now he's something because we have
any We haven't anything big since the blow up of
the Geo thing, so we need another blow up or something.
I'm assuming it's to Drew. I'm assuming us to Drew
Nina stuff. I'm assuming that's next.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Well, and then you know what's gonna happen. I will
pitch that Willow will get pregnant. Things fall apart. That's
why Drew can't leave Willow alone. She wants something to
do with him, but he's not gonna leave her alone
because she's scarying his baby, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
And that's that's a soap trope that happens all the time,
and that would not be far fetched. That would be
far fetched. She's up, she's of child birthing age, how
bearing age. She said, do it? You know you're right?
They all laughter, you said, watching it a closet. Yes,
my god, they can't be doing it. So I yea, yeah,

(01:13:55):
we still so, I guess still circling the drain we have.
We do have the whole Marco stuff with Sidwell being
son and the Tia dying, and he's dood a good job.
That's just did a good job. It's do a good
job him an Alexis.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I love that. I you know, it's like a character
like Marco, like you need him to have other ties
with other people and so like, you know, because I
feel like everybody's a perception of your Super Bowl son,
so we can't trust you. I got to keep you
at a distance. So a scene like that with him
in Alexis, it's like, yeah, I would like to see
him become better friends with Alexis. Yes, No, and they

(01:14:35):
have some kind of friendly relationship more so than just
work colleagues.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yes, And I like this. She was like, no, I
mean you work for us, I'm looking out for you.
Just on who knows there anything you know, you can
tell she's really what's looking out for him because she
has experience about this. She knows all about being judged
by somebody who come from so she gets it. So
I get that. Also, we can't forget also the other

(01:15:05):
kind of and so the Christina fallout when they think
the family tree this way, you have the called Cody,
Avia stuff and Rick, which obviously it's working, but it's
just it's a dumb storyline. It's a dumb story line.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
It is, you know. I mean, I guess it gives
Cody something to do. I suppose, I guess, but but
you and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I both know, Frank Moran, Frank are really Esmran. What
a brilliance that I had a feelings. We know for
a fact that Rick and and and the Live people
will never be together fully because of all that carly
stuff that happened, and they'll never be together fully. They're

(01:15:52):
playing it up right now a little bit. It's cutesy.
We get she'll always have some feelings from on some level,
but I don't think they I'll think can ever be
together though, But because it's too much baggage, they can
be together?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, they could flirt around it
and they they could like smooch and hook up maybe,
but in terms of really beginning a lunggoing ongoing relationship, No.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
No, I have tickets to the blah blah blah blah.
Do you want to go? Okay? But then went Cody
talking to and and Rick started looking over there. I said, okay,
this is this is too. I mean, yeah, well cliche and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
That Rick came by and he's like, oh, I told
Alexis to throw on a couple bore zeros, so you
could do some stuff for the gallery, because you know,
I care, Like, holy yeh, Like we're already seeing this,
this trust just losing money ahead of her fist. Already
we're throwing a couple of boars and arrows.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
And they they never them together.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Really, Yeah, I I assume like off screen that they're
they're constantly hooked up and just going at it and
doing all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I guess. I guess the same here. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, I don't know right when I see when I've
seen it, so I don't know what's going on with them.
So it's a it's a cliche kind of story. Okay,
it's fine. Well we'll see what happens. And obviously Molly
will be upset the able to sleep together. But you
had to have your man. Your man had no lines

(01:17:33):
at the christening. But what lines they give them, Frank Maron,
I can wait to ask you this the lines they
gave him? Well, you know I have, but my son
is pretty amazing and maybe should all have doing it? Lisa,
what are you doing? I was like, Frank, you love
the Simper Fox, You're a fan. What the f.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
It's you know, I'm sure you want to have Mac
have more connections in Port Charles, but holy cow, he
is capable of doing so much more than being a
hype man for his newfound son. It's like, oh, okay, Mack, please,
you've you know, you know, you've got a your wrecking,

(01:18:16):
your former mercenary racket tour, you've been a borrow owner, uh,
police chief, all this stuff, and now we're just you know,
my son, good guy. Maybe you know we should all
go out to dinner together. Oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
But Lisa and her responsibly laughed. She was kind of like,
what are you doing? Like I'm like, yeah, Felicia asked him,
what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Like at least her apologize like I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, I know I was loud. I just love but
at least we have Felicia's other stuff. So you know,
we see her with We saw her Kryle, saw her Sasha,
we see her with Anna, which I'm liking the whole thing.
They saw her Curtis, so we're so we're getting we're
seeing her. He was your I scales a, found your
cents and then lost your center. So I love that.
That was interesting. So I guess I see her but

(01:19:05):
not seeing her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
And that's another I would have liked to have seen
this a goodbye seating between Sasha and Felicia as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Uh yes, I know either Mick Floyd wants to know.
Did Frank you ever explained why he likes Max so much?
He did, what's a long time ago, But you want
to tell people again why you like did a long time?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Well, one because he had that that TV show on
Fox Is a Wolf.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Oh yeah, my god, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Yeah, but yeah, there was just something about him the
way he cape on screening where he's uh, I mean
back when they were shooting on location and they're on
that pier and Robert's pulling back out of the water,
and just the way he was introduced and just being
Robert's brother, their contentious relationship. Then you're seeing him kind

(01:19:56):
of uh uh you know, he starts the outback, he
raises Robin, Maxie and Georgie. Uh. Yeah, you know there
was stuff I never liked to have much of, Like
he was like a doormat for Felicia for a lot
of the time. Yes, But other than that, yeah, I
mean he was man. He was he had so much

(01:20:18):
toy on on that show back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
He did. He did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
I was just I was just like, hey, let's go
for dinner so you could have we can all be together,
you and me and and my son and my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
I tell you, Frank and I message each other when
I mentioned that the at thet it's almost at the funeral,
I think christening, and it was like he didn't have
one line. And first it was supposed to be there
there before, like you can't make it well something, He's
there sitting there just smiling. I'm like, he had no lines.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I mean, I I assume he still gets paid just
the same.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I guess, so.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Easy for him, but come on, you know, at least
throw him something and then he just toasts at the
at the quarter means that's it. I wanted to drink
because he's like, he's he's tied with Sonny. He's gonna
say holy cow. Uh you know, let me be miserable
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
No, they didn't even do that. Folks, before we go,
because I have to go soon and actually for some
of my mom but I want to ask Frank, because
you brought up in a chat. We covered most of
what happened the last couple weeks. It's fine, we're back
next week. The nominations. Yes, so Taj Kate both got nominations.

(01:21:39):
I'm asumming for that story, but mot Molly didn't. Alexis Carl,
Alexis Nasty Gron Laura Wright got nominated against.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
The other actions from Y and R. It's kind of funny, people,
but we have some So what do you think about
some nominations you got we got? What are some of
your thoughts of the nominate?

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Curious about the taj one? Give him, you know his
current standard of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
The hospital somewhere Frank, Yeah, he's just lost.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
In the in the you know, in the basements of
g H somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
He found that chamber. Uh yeah, you got I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
He found out a stairwell.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
He stuck on the roof that, Yes, just waiting for
a helicopter to come.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Yeah, he got me. He was I mean the scenes.
I think he submitted that he was good at him obviously,
it's it's the whole death, whole day is being angry
and stuff. That was good, but like interesting, what many
say Nasty Grass should get it this year. He hasn't
once in a while. It's all the Sam death scenes,
Dot Down, Dominic Sopronia. Also the same thing you got Domitie. Also,

(01:22:58):
I'm sweet for the Sam scene. The Sam Lulu staff. Yeah,
they were they were good. They were there, they were there,
they were good scenes. They're good scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Yeah, I mean you know, I mean I assume you know,
Kate gets it for you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yes, that direction, they should get it. For directing, that
was that was good. Frank we all that was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Heck yes, heck yes, they made the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Use of that whole set and I was good to him.
And also with Ned falling into the pool, skipping his
ass across the and they did that pool got I mean,
they got the money's worth on that. Meg about that.
So I will say for direction, they should get some
they should we win for that for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Yeah, you know, it's you want to be I want
to be more excited about the Daytime Emmys, and yet
it's just you know, in these day and what you know,
we've got you know, three network, four network, uh and
one streaming soap opera.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
I mean, well, funny as they didn't so they didn't
include neighbors, they didn't include Yes, they didn't get it.
Get any nominations. Stay with the Bay this year had
nothing this year, and tell everybody, Beyond the Gates came
out this year, so that's gonna be next year. So
I'm curious, Frank, how Beyond the Gates will it will
not affect the nominations next year because they'll be able

(01:24:20):
to enter all this stuff. It's another soap opera, so
I wanted because bold if you saw it got shut out?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Wow, how did you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
I thought I thought it was a TYPEO. I can
just like this. I mean, as long as I've been alive,
I mean, most subs get nominated. These getting already getting nominated,
and then when it got down to the fore, they've
always been nominated. The flour just always been nominated for everything.
When I saw they get nominated for nothing except for

(01:24:50):
Emerging Talent, where the fuck that is in Daytime, I
just started chuckling. I just I just wart. I just
thought that this is I I know they must be hurt.
I don't they must be hurt over there. They must
be hurt because of the four soubs. I mean, Day's
got everything, which is which they never get anything. So
it's kind of like the nominator. I know the Susan

(01:25:12):
sees Worth Hayes think I get that all day upset
about that. She she she went for the wrong category, folks,
That's what happened and then ended up getting shut out.
But the rest of it, I'm so happy for a lot.
I know a lot of the days actors Paul tell
from so happy for that they gotten up Vincy God
frees my girl, So I'm glad she's not made it.
So they were good. But when Bowl was shut out

(01:25:34):
of all the major categories, all of them, I was like,
my mouth was like I couldn't. I don't, I don't
just I mean, I couldn't even be shady about it.
I'm just like I wish I was shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
For you who is more dialed into the CBS side
and stuff in sobs in general? How much Barry do
you think stuff like that has on soabs? Like if
Bold and Beautiful does not get that that does not
at least get nominated for Best Soap? Does that make
the powers that be over there and be like whoa
what take a look at themselves, like what are we
doing with our storytelling? Andy that we need to change?

(01:26:10):
Or Nope, We're just like we're just gonna keep going
and well, you know, maybe next year we'll be on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
No. I know they're upset. I know for a fight.
They're upset, but they're not going to change anything. But
they just right now they moved to a new studio,
so they left and they're not They left Television City
and they're over at Stage thirty one and the whole
thing about that last week. Now they're going to Sunset
not Sunset Gower, but Sunsets something. It's over there in
East Hollywood, so they're going there, and everybody chants like
as well deserved. I see, I didn't think last year's

(01:26:37):
show was bad. I think this year is bad. I
didn't think last year was that bad. So I was
I was all careous some stuff last year, which we
do that show every Sunday, But this year is like good.
Last year is so bad for me and days only
got it because you have to remember, you guys, it's
just for certain episodes. It's it's not the whole They

(01:26:59):
don't you don't judge, may judge, So that the whole year,
and here's little insights the scoop for you guys, and
you Frank Reels could be as long as five minutes
or twenty five minutes. What are you gonna watch, Frank?
Are you gonna watch a twenty five minute reel?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I like it, I'm dosies. I'll watch it, but a
five minute reel. And when you do and you do voting,
I can say this is not a secret or anything.
The voting is you have to watch a sort amount
of minutes before can you actually vote? You know you
can't just I just you can't do the aaaa bb
you can't do that. You actually have to watch at
least a piece of it, or pretend you're watching a

(01:27:37):
piece of it, and then you can start to vote.
So you gotta watch some of it. And so Days
has Drake's funeral next year, but this year they have
they have Bill Hayes. They have the whole Doug funeral,
and that's why they're all upset about Susan buried her
husband twice basically on screen and off screen. And then
the ount with that. So they have that and g
H has a couple of episodes or you know, like

(01:27:59):
they want before because of the Christmas episode, it says
like what's whatever you send in? So we're all like
going the whole year sucked. Well, if they had two
good episodes, they can submit that. That's kind of how
it works for you, and that's kind of that's how
I can do it. So I'm just very care in
nine toes, she has eight toes. Now they shut off

(01:28:21):
Sheila's second another toe, so I'm like, not so her
and Sean Cane and are like, you're looking at jokes.
I own mind a toes. I'm like, what am I watching?
What am I watching? Kim Lin Brown and Sean Kane
deserved more than this. They shot off they shot off
her toe, Frank.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But I feel like when you only have four soaps
at the time, yes, and you're not even and usually,
as you said, they've just known for best soaps that
if you can't even get onto like what, it has
been kind of business as usual, yes for you for
what for whatever reels, for whatever episode you said for Like,
doesn't that say like out of one year they anything

(01:28:57):
we said, they all thought like it wasn't even warm
enough to get on something. We usually would just get
it out automatically, Like I feel like that would make
me you want to like reevaluate, Like all right, guys,
they take a hot second to think about how we're
approaching the show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
The thing about all the beautiful they're almost like days
of our Lives. They really they owned the show, so
the CBS is own the show. So they own the show,
so they could do it. Everyone Frank just said it, yes,
it's it's The thing is they they're coy do whatever

(01:29:32):
you want. They feel like as long as you're talking,
they don't care. These are most of the folks who
did mannequins. They did blow up dolls like they've been
and like you could tell it was a wig and
a blow up doll, like they didn't care. Like that's
kind of like it's almost it's hilarious. I mean like
it's it's like it's they you know, they're in Los Angeles.

(01:29:53):
There's no gay people, there's no Hispanics, there's no Asian,
none of the ages. Now we got three ages. Now
they took a girl, pardoned her on the show, and
now she tried to kill a grandmother as somebody like
it's it's the show is so cuckoo. They're the same
triangle for the last thirty years. They don't care. Fans

(01:30:15):
are screaming, let it go, don't do it Brooke, don't
do it. They brought back Jack Waddener for the summer.
They don't care. Yeahs on it. He's going back to
They filmed the race, he's going back to win calls
the Heart. They just started filming for the thirteenth season.
But like that's all. It's like they don't bold does
whatever the effort wants. I kind of admire that on

(01:30:38):
some levels, like it's your show and they because they
they they own both their shows. Why are they own them?
So they do what they want, you know, so they're
not beholden to that. See the network that hard where
the Ganda Gates is beholding the CBS. And trust me,
some stuff's about to happen with the whole Stephen Colbert
all that stuff. It's it's don't trigg it down to

(01:31:01):
them too, triggle down to them too. So so something
there's a lot of a lot of riders have been
fired and it's a whole that almost stuff going on
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
We're doing almost product placements.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
I did I saw that photo of you, Yes, yes,
I love, I love and tied tied on there but yes,
and last year we're also on bond gh. We have
Bobby's funeral. So they saw they submit just one episode
with the one with BJ coleing back, you know, Bobby's funeral,
BJ coming back, That whole thing could be really fun.

(01:31:36):
And so it all goes down to what they selected
in their wheels. But I mean that the thing is
so it was wonderful. It was wonderful. It was a
nice surprise. That was nice surprise. So I was saying,
they could you know, but yeah, it's it's it's yeah,
it's gonna be really interesting that it's really interesting. But
I think with Bold, I was shocked that they I

(01:31:56):
mean I really was truly shocked they didn't get anything.
But some there's emerging talent and maybe some like in
house nominations for like your hair and stuff. But that's
not that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
You know, when you use a title like emerging talent,
I feel like it should just be for for babies
that are introduced.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
To no offense. Girlfriend, I don't know you. I love
John Wonder years ten thousand years ago. When I said
Olivia Diabo is a Dabo is emerging talent, I'm like, no,
I'm old too, folks. I'm old also because I'm not
just saying you have heard the same category as Avery Pole,

(01:32:35):
who plays asthme As you know, these folks are all
in their twenties and it's like Olivia Dabo, Oh, I
guess and guest role they put it and see again
it depends on her acting reel. Ali Mills nominated again.
You know, you never know Alis is nominated. I forgot

(01:32:56):
who's the person nominating you guys. I don't have it
in front of me. Somebody old, Oh, Gregory Harrison is nominated.
We alsos forget. We have that whole storyline to you
that happened last year. We all hated but it was good,
but we hated it. And and also, folks, Jane Elliott
does not submit, so that's the whole point. It was, like,

(01:33:17):
where's Jane Elliott? She doesn't submit for the ampens.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Somebody submit for her.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Somebody else said that, so I said that, I think
that's that her permission. But she's like her like ddrows
to submit either. They don't spend anymore. I think it
was it was it Larry Hagman or somebody on Prime
Time the same way. They didn't submit. They just they
didn't didn't believe in competition.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Yeah, well, you know, uh, I respect that as somebody
who just loves her performance, like just you know, shower
with praise in the in the awards.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Yeah and again Jane Elliott has Asnamy. She already has one,
so she has one. But yeah, so that's yeah, so
that's emerging talent. I'm like, that's on day to me,
on daytime. So I guess Olivia gets it because she's
emerging on daytime.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Maybe, especially if you won once, do you know how
many more emans do you need? Like I feel like
the one time is awesome and then the other one
you're just like, eh, just whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
I could counter that with what was a different role?

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Okay, all right, roll?

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Or what if it's a storyline you're very proud of
and it's been twenty years, you want like Michelle Stafford
she had won in twenty years?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
All right, okay, very good kind of points.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
I was that was saying thing. I'm like, no, it's
the ones that get over and over again every year, Like, okay,
well that's kind of I don't Primetime happens a lot
a lot of comedy that you go. I love looking
at the ones of the nights. I was like, it
was like, but you're heating but youre see heating, but
you see heating. You know, like it was like after
a while, I was like, okay, that's a little too much.
After a while it was like those same you know,
it's like it was this, it was this. It was like, Okay,
that's a little much. But I think for once where

(01:34:56):
maybe it's spread out, its a different role or its
spread out, then you should emy for your work that
you did on that show. I know that Jeane Smart
has like seven but she's done so different She's one
for so many different things. Yeah, so it's kind of like, Okay,
I kind of get it now. I kind of get
she's won in comedy and drama and you know, Hacks
and twenty four and it's not like she's one today,
So I get it. Greg Ley Harrison, just seeing him

(01:35:20):
may me mad because I loved his story because I
want him to stay on the show longer. They're a
great leading man. So maybe upset. It was good, It
was done well, but it was good. I was pissed
because I didn't want him leave.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Yeah, just I think we could have Gregory and Tracy together. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
I know right now, I know they they do. They
don't care anymore. Why don't they submit. Everybody has their reasons.
Some folks say they don't like them like competition. They
saw like competition. They're not into the whole competitive thing.
For some people, it's how can you truly judge best
actor actress when you're not playing the same role as
some people will say they good? Can really truly judge

(01:36:00):
all play the same role? You pick the best out
of that role, and that essentially takes a interesting takes.
So think about that for a second. Angel Blue, that's
a that's the thought, right. It's like they go everybody's
performances a mismatch, they say a lot of times in
like the Oscars and this a lot of comedy doesn't win.

(01:36:20):
When it comes to leads supporting actors, they'll win a
lot of times, but lead actors, like think about for
supporting actress, it was tell Me One from my cousin Vinnie,
great performance, hilarious, share got it from Moonstruggle, which was
kind of a comedy drama, wasn't all out comedy. Like

(01:36:41):
I remember when when Goldie Hawn was up for Private Benjamin,
great movie, she didn't win. Comedies just don't mean it's
one of those weird things when it comes to these
these kind of these lead acting shows. The last person
to win a lead actress comedy was Dorothy Lyman as
Opole on on All My Children a thousand years ago.

(01:37:03):
I know Jie Larson's been nominated.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
My Girl years ago is on there. She played Calliope
on Days. She was nominated. Like they don't they comedy folks,
when he submit comedy rarely wins. Michael Knight, but he's one.
That's another one. Okay, he's saying comedy in drama. So
he's got some comedy. Yeah, And so again you're th
think because we were bring up David Canary. David Canary
has played Twins, which and he deserves every Emmy he's gotten.

(01:37:31):
Trust me, Adam and Stewart was so legendary. I mean
they were so they were so good. Johnny Colly hasn't
won an Emmy, but she was, but she was nominated.
I think she was nominated. But Sally Spectro was huge,
a big it was a big name. Tony Geary has
done some kind of comedy and drama. He's won seven Emmys.

(01:37:55):
So I mean, but I mean, but that, but what
I'm saying, it's kind of is it's hard. I know,
it's one of those it's one of those weird things.
I think some people feel like my son is mostly
comedy stuff. Why would I submit? I crying enough, but
anguished bros All thank if somebody told me in one
of the their scenes of Converge actions, it was, she goes,
my stuff's understated. I'm not crying in it, so she goes.

(01:38:19):
I'm surprised I got nominated because you see it. If
you're crying, you know you get a nomination. You know,
Jonathan Johnes. That's why Jonathan Jackson's not made it again,
which I don't think you should be not made for anything,
but he's Jonah Jackson, I guess. But he didn't do much.
He made. The Adam character was amazing. I would say, folks,

(01:38:40):
don't sleep on Stewart that character. I mean, the way
I had to get to all my children, thank real quick.
But I'm going to because you guys made me do this.
The horse force in my hand. David Canary is a
masterclass in playing two characters that are so bad, vastly

(01:39:00):
different in voice, in mannerisms, in character, and he played
them separately and together. The only person I can think
of that comes close would be an hash as Vicky

(01:39:25):
and Marley and on on another world, and of course
the Grand Dame because slave Zach who played Vicky and
all the altars. That'll be close. But see it would
fit with her. She had she was playing one person
who would switch. David Canary again played two separate characters.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Yeah, and for a while when it was just like, oh,
Stuart's hidden secret, that was one thing. But then when
they started giving Stewart like his own life, yes story
and he's buried city and yes, you know they're together,
it's like he had so you're right, he's like two
different characters. There were two different lives, and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
That there was at one time when he was pertaining
to be Adam. So yeah, David King, folks, I can't
do this, neither, Frank, we can't do this. He played
David Canary played Stuart pretending to be Adam, and there
were times when he had he played Adam primy Stewart. Now,

(01:40:29):
I think Davidson I gret up, Mickey I grew ill
let she out did him. But I think she did
a good job too. She played five characters on TV,
but some of the characters just to then last long
some of then we're just off for a minute. I
will say Susan and Kristen. Yes, those are two separate
characters she played, and that's very good. So no, I
will not. She did a great job. She want to

(01:40:49):
me for it. She did a great job. I still
think David Canary is still number one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I think I think that was since the close second
or third, but I still think I still I'm still
with Ellen Wheeler. Well, Ellen Wheeler is good too. Ellen Wheeler,
Ellen Wheeler and Hees both did a great job and
playing the twins another world. So I'm just I'm just

(01:41:10):
saying there. But but but I think Davidon's very good.
I love my name. She was very good. But I'm
just saying. And she also did the whole Altar story
recently on Y and R as Ashley at that was
good too. I'm sorry, I think I think David Canary
is still heading shoulders above the rest. We're talking about
thirty years. He played that character twenty five thirty years,
and it was it was just it was they were

(01:41:32):
really I mean, it was just it was it was
really distinct, and you can and I thought it was
super an actress playing I literally just could I would
think think. I thought it was like twins.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Who's David Canary's twin brother?

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Probably, And what's funny is on I wanted to Live Folks,
you remember this. Two brothers did play the same role once.
One brother played it first and he left the business.
The other brother came on and playing it. That's uh,
Larry Storm and Michael Storm. I think it is what
the names were. I did a whole show on him.
I wanted to live after show they did, they both played.

(01:42:08):
They both played Larry Willock. Oh wow, interesting to be
getting one left. He left to shake, did it for
two years, left and then the brother came out and
replaced him. So it's like, it's kind of cool. They
played till the end, so it's kind of was kind
of cool. But I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just sorry.
I'm I David Canary gets high praise when he just
period and then I heard you was one of the
nicest people on earth. Now I've met I leave Davidson,
and she's wonderful. So I want to say everybody, I

(01:42:28):
just I just heard that David Canary was just like
was like when the hardest working, nicest people on top
of everything else, on top of the talent. So and
everybody agrees because Frank and everybody on all my shows,
I've asked, most folks want all my children back first now,
so that's the whole consensus I do. So I think

(01:42:51):
it's hilarious. I started a question with you guys, but
all my roundtables and the and the cast out here,
it seems like I wanted to live in second, but
they want all my children back.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Sadly, poor Charles. And third, nobody was crying out for
port Charles.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
And I also don't before you start mentioning all the Twins,
I'm just saying. I'm just saying that he just Dave
Canary talking about actors winning well, because I think he
won for Stewart once and he won, so it's kind
of like just it's and I think Toy Gary won
for playing Bill Eckerd or whatever and whatever. I don't
know who knows one of his zammies. So I'm like,
I don't know. Not every Twins story is good, trust

(01:43:29):
me our imposter story or whatever. So I let's have
Paul and I will do it next time. That's different
today guys, because I have to have to take care
of my mom. Do something. So one hundred and three minutes,
kids almost two hours, Frank, almost two hours. We had them,
almost one hundred people watching us too. I know, way

(01:43:49):
back next Sunday. I promise. I think I will be
back this Sunday, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Think, don't make us break a promise.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
We'll be back. We'll be back next week, back way back,
next Sunday. We're back. We're back on track again. It's
still think it's still July, right, it's still Oh my god,
it's the last Sunday in July. We're listening to August. Frank,
that's crazy. I know, thanks the twentieth Why didn't he
really Okay, let met me wake up, let me wake up?
Oh yeah, nobody, thank you for the welch of my mom.

(01:44:19):
And I posted a couple of videos online. She is
out of the hospital, but we're not out of the
woods yet, so we're still all prayers are all taken,
will take them all. We're just time to figure out
what's wrong. But she is, she is out of the hospital.
She's at home now, so I said, I'm gonna have
to go to check on her and I have to
go over there. Yeah, but she's home, so I think
we're we're taking all the we're taking all the winds,

(01:44:39):
every wind we could take, we're taking it. So we're back.
But Frank, they want to follow you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
To go Jackie and all that and the art of
X Men ninety seven book is out at your booksellers
online and near you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
If you buy it, Frank will autograph. They'll come to
your house an autograph right there you go. Just yeah,
just let me know. Please don't cut that out and
quote me. I'm not. I'm just kidding at all, but
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grandma's and Saraphini whichul I said to her, Uh to
her birthday, and she's gonna tell you her age. But
she's younger than all of us. It's not fair my
birthday to her. We love her. And yeah, we back
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