Week Ending 7/25/25 with Rory Gibson

Rory Gibson joins James and Frank for the first half of the show!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well you know this. This is held on wealkome.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Everybody, welcome to another edition of the GM Spotlight here
on JLJ Media.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Who am I? I'm JLJ exactly. You know that.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And you know the person also who joins me every week,
mister Frank Morhan. Hey, everybody right, but you're probably going,
who's the other person? He looks familiar, like somebody we've
seen on our TV screens recently, or your tablets or
your phones. We're talking again. There you go, Yes, I
got him for you. He is the new Michael. Go

(00:31):
to third, the third, yeah, third, and you guys love
him already. I mean, I've not seen any bad comments
at all, which is rarity in soap world.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Tell me welcome my friend Rory Gibson. Hi, Rory, Hi, guys,
thanks for having me our pleasure.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So folks get into come on in the water's fine
or the water is kind of warm, but come on
in please like subscribing comments. Of course, we did our
wine Army Spotlight. You know he used to be on
that ship. Know we did that one this morning. Uh
so that's out. Now it's me, Candice, Tammy and Amanda.
We did all that and meet it's out there now,

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and we did both in the beautiful Spotlight that's out
now also audio and video, So you guys are totally
out there for your your pleasure. After this, my chocolate twin,
Tony Moore and his gang do Days of Our Lives
and they have a guest too. Don't ask me who
it is. I forgot. It's somebody really good. Uh this
on the show. I think who it is. But they
have a guest today, so Grigs, you checked them out

(01:28):
on their channel edition days and tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Jeez, who's the guest? I just wanted to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Frank Yeah, in front of company. It's like she plays.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
They actually told me who the I don't watch Days
of our Lives that much, so I don't know space stations.
This person is really great and sweet, and I'm sure
she is, but I don't I don't know her name,
but just tune in find out going like a surprise,
go there and find out. I do that and then
tomorrow night, of course it's our end, just like that.
After show, me and Emiie may Heller talk about how
they ruined the character of Aiden. That's tomorrow nights on

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that show.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Uh. So that's all your church announcements. For takings. We
got him today. We're going to talk to him and
here he is. Ory. How you doing.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I'm doing really good. How about you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's good to see you again. We go back to
the y in r days. But I want to ask
you a question I have I have not seen anybody
ask you this. I watched some of the other interviews
and stuff, but I'm not I have not invested this.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Are you having a good time?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm having an incredible time.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, it's been. It's been really really nice. It's been challenging.
You know that they threw me into kind of a
big story. Uh So I've been really busy, but I
kind of like being busy.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't do well when I'm bored.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I like challenges. I like to kind of keep things going.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
So I've been really thoroughly enjoying it because I was like.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
You, because you really have been thrown right in, because
you've been a recastle forest. You don't how recasts work,
but this one you came into a big story. Not
actually to several big stories, right, Frank, it's like several
big stories. You had several kind of yeah, because you
had the whole the Daisy loss over here, and you
have the Wilson over here and just you coming back.

(03:12):
I mean that that here, and I mean you had
a lot of stories, a lot of people to work with.
What's it overwhelming the first couple of weeks because we
have you had a lot, you work with a lot
of people.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
You know, I had a feeling that it might be
just because they gave me kind of like a rough
inclination of what I was going to be jumping into.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
But shockingly, it wasn't overwhelming at all. I was just
really happy and excited to be there and excited.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
To get back to work, and it was just it
was a pleasure and it's continuing to be a pleasure.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
So yeah, surprisingly was not overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
You know that'steresting, not the first time that you've been recast,
but for you, how do you handle stepping into a
role that somebody else's started, Like what's your philosophy, your
approached wanting to do something with the fans who enjoyed
that character want to see, but then also something that
you want to enjoy playing.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
I talked about this a while ago, and it's kind
of a tricky situation to jump into. And I think
the only correct choice is to just make it your
own interpretation, because no one can do what someone else does.
So even if I tried to like replicate something that
one of the previous Michaels had done, it wouldn't come

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off the same way. So there's really no point in
trying to go down that route. So all I can
do is gather all the information that's already happened, study
as much as I can, try not to watch previous
episodes because you know it can create a little bit
of influence based off what they've done, and then just

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put your own spin on it and do what you
feel like you need to do with that character or
something that's going to justify his actions and means to you,
because otherwise it's just it's not going to come across
as believable.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I think it will fall flat.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So trying to honor the source material, but you know,
kind of honor yourself as well and be true to
what you need.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
To bring to the table.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
The chapter the great job.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh does the show provided you written to like a
write up of everything that that Michael crinthis had been
through or do they say, oh what do they? Even
though you don't want to watch episodes. Do they suggest
watching certain key things.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
No, they didn't tell me to watch anything and that.
That was the same experience with Y and r U.
But over here at GH, they gave me like the
longest breakdown imaginable. It was the biggest email I've ever read.

(05:54):
I was really really grateful for because I had a
vague knowledge of GH, just you know, from being in
the soap world, but I wasn't familiar with the character.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
So I looked up a thing here and there, and
you know, when you're trying.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
To figure it all out by yourself, the rabbit holes
can get pretty deep. So they gave me a breakdown
that was like pages and pages long about every good
and bad thing that had happened in Michael's life, how
he was connected to each character, his relationships and dynamics
with each character.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
So that helped a lot.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
And then outside of that, I was honestly kind of
fortunate with being thrown into the fire initially because I
had scenes with so many people so quickly. Whereas you
know on soaps, you can be on a stop and
have a character who's like your cousin and go a
year without ever speaking to them on camera. Yes, so

(06:52):
I got lucky in the sense of my first couple
of weeks, I had scenes with almost everyone, and the
dialogue that's written in those kind of helps give you
and the idea of those relationships as well. So all
of that tied together made it, uh made it not
as daunting of a task.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah you did. I said, you literally worked half the cast.
I mean, you came in a lot of people. Was
like working with children.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
I know not everyone is crazy about it, because you know,
it can be difficult because if you show up and
set one day, like.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Sometimes the kids just start feeling it.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
And kids are honest, and they're not gonna they're not
gonna always put on that brave face.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
But my experience thus far, I've been very fortunate and
they've all just been so lovely, and I just adore
kids so much, so I've thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it, especially
working with like the babies and stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Just that Daisy loved you.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I loved her. They're like, they're credible.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
And it was funny because every time you had scenes
with the baby, I would say, like eighty to ninety
percent of the time, Sophia got to hold the baby,
and we'd be off camera and I'd be like, can
I hold the baby, and It's like, baby, give me
the baby, Like come on. So, yeah, it's been I've

(08:21):
really loved to working with the kids. It's been fantastic.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I have to imagine the first time you really feel like,
all right, I am fully entrenched in the soapiness of
gh is in the court scene where you're giving will
what will is delivery, ETCeteras, maybe and you're just you're
hanging tight right there.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah. Man, that was that was nuts. It was.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
It was cool for you know, a bunch of reasons.
One just because the severity of the scene. I really
enjoyed that, and also in my kind of experience up
until that point with soaps, I hadn't really had a
big soapy moment yet. So when I read that script, finally,
finally I get my big soapy, easy, I can't believe

(09:06):
this is happening moment, it was incredible.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, that's that. That was such I think I missed it.
I was like, oh my god, it was crazy. It was.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It was because it was such the soapiest I mean, yeah,
getting birth in a court drama, and I just learned
it to your baby. I mean, it's just like the baby.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was thrilled.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I was so excited because I have friends who are like,
you know, supportive of career and stuff, but not all
of them tune in, so they'll ask me like, oh,
what what's going on this week? And that week I
was so excited, like, oh.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, my ex wife and I are getting divorced.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
But in the middle of it, my ex fiance gives
birth to our you know kid that we kind of
had while I was still married, and my ex fiance,
my ex wife is on livers it and like, what, yeah,
you know, it's it's like a Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Just what I always like my life is okay, great?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, and no, because we watched them like, oh my goodness,
I can imagine you're reading your slot your side You're like,
that's what I'm doing today, Okay, tomorrow, Okay.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
It was an interesting couple of days for sure, but
it was really fun. Uh and it was really I
was just really stoked to see everyone else work too.
I got like a front seat to see some pretty
incredible performances that week.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Because you know, there's there's so rare these days that
we get like the big events that happen in the
city where everybody gets get together, where you get the
chance to see not just your your your partner in
a scene, but multiple people get to do it. They
get that's gotta be a lot of those. Are those
days as fun or they just are they just long
or the a combination of both.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's a little bit of both.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
They they definitely are longer days for sure, but it's exciting.
It's really exciting to see everyone else work and I
think and everyone else is there.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
It really does bring a.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Different energy because you guys, know, soaps they move really fast,
and because of that, and because GH films so much
in a kind of a compact time, because we have
dark weeks, you don't always get to see everyone for
like longer periods of time, So that makes it nice too.
It's like, especially because those were my earlier days on

(11:24):
the show, I feel like I was fortunate enough to
get to know everybody a little bit more than I
would have if I didn't have, you know, these big
group scenes over the span the first like two three weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, Frank said, I was gonna say, and I'm gonna
piggyback out of Frank how I asked this to Michelle
Stafford once I asked her, it's like, what is it
like to do your own acting in those big scenes
in front of your half your cast? Like, is there
a pressure on there? Everybody's kind of they are watching
you act, I mean, or just another day of it?

(11:57):
Is it just like an average day of acting for you?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, it depends, like I've had.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
It's weird though, because the kind of the pressure of
those moments hit at different times and times that you
wouldn't really expect it to, like scenes that you would
think would be a lot easier or a lot harder.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I don't get too nervous.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
When it comes to filming these kinds of things, so
I felt pretty chill about it the whole time. But
if anything, I think it can be pretty helpful because
you get more engrossed in the world because if it's
just a one on one scene, like your focus is
on this person and then you know, in your peripheral
to the right, you see the set, but then in

(12:41):
your perferal left you see fifty sixty crew members all
standing there, Whereas when you're in this big group scene,
there's so much to focus on within the scene itself.
It makes it a lot easier to get lost in
kind of what's been written, what's happening, and you get
to it's a lot easier to delude yourself into this,

(13:02):
you know, bake reality.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
We look off to the side on recruds like is
it lunchtime yet? Why are they?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You know? What's going on? You know? Yeah, a little
cut buffer, Frank.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I I have asked, Uh, probably the favorite, My favorite
set and I think James would agree is the metrocre Pool.
What is it like filming at the Mess?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah? What was it?

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Like?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I mean, I'm such a small set obviously in real life,
but like, what its very small?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, it's very small.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
It's very high up because you know, they have the
pool there, so it's elevated pretty high off the ground.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Why.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not like I'm sure you guys
have seen. It's not like a terribly deep pool.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
No, not at all. We laugh at that all the time.
We're like, don't jump in there. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's pretty shallow. But nonetheless it has some depth to it,
so it's raised off the ground. Uh, pretty pretty high.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
But then it's it's not very it's not a very
big set. It's quite long, but not very big. The
pools heated, which is nice relaxing. Sometimes I don't like
that though, because you sit in there for a couple
of minutes and all of a sudden, you're like.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Like started relaxing. Meanwhile, you're like you kind of have
to be on it. So part of the wishes it
was cold, but yeah, it's it's it's chill.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
It's nice. It's it's it's a cool spot. The it's
very bright, so that aspect of it wakes you up.
They keep that because it's supposed to be outdoors. You're
it's supposed to be sunny and stuff. But yeah, it's
a it's a good set. Every time I I have
one of the wardrobe guys on like speed dial, basically

(14:47):
because every time I get a script and I see
Metro Court, it doesn't clarify necessarily whether or not I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Be shirtless in it.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
So the second I see Metro Court pool, I ring
one of them up and I'm like, yo, what's the wardrobe?
And then you're just in trunks. I'm like, oh damn it.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, You're like great, Okay. We laughed.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Because we laugh because obviously you're a former burn victim
your character and we first saw you shirtless sitting by
the pool, like, oh wow, that's so amazing work they
do over there in Europe.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
The neck in Germany is top notch, is the best,
best of the best.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
What is because you're mentioning the script, going at to you,
what is the difference between when you get the script,
how many days do you have or weeks before a
shooting day.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Typically it's one week. Yeah, typically it's one week.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
It varies every once in a while, depending if we
have like a break or not. Like I just got
my first script coming back.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Because we have just one more week off, and.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
They sent out the first one a little bit early,
so that one I got like two.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Weeks ahead, but technically it's it's one week ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, as you keeping in for those shirtless things, Like
all right, I got a dial back on the the
pasta for I was.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
I was nervous about this one because I just got
back from Europe and I was just eating everything. So
when I got that email notification of that first script back.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I was like, you not go to where you went
in Europe and not eat the food that's there. Yeah,
you eat it.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, And I did it every I had Margarita pizza
damn near every day.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So when you when so, now you've been on the
show for a little bit, how do you describe Michael?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Michael, He's an interesting character.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
I've really really enjoyed him because he's kind of there's
a strange duality to him, you know, he's I've had moments,
you know, portraying him where he's just so gentle and
he so kind, and I think at his core that's
who he is. But I think all the things in
his life that have kind of been forced upon him

(17:09):
leading up to this point of.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
It's put up a shield a little.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Bit too or so much has just happened to him,
you know, life is kind of beating him down over
and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So I think that he.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Has a lot more of an edge to him than
I was anticipating when I first got the gig, and
I've really enjoyed that, just being able to play both
sides of that, because you know, when I'm with the
kids or I'm with like, you know, certain family members,
it's it's light, it's gentle, and then in the same

(17:46):
episode being able to kind of flip on a dime.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I think he's become very guarded in a sense.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
He feels like he has to protect himself because you know,
life has just been brutal.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well that for those sort of relationships, for you, what
you enjoy more is it the ones where the relationships
are kind of clearly defined where it's like, oh, yeah,
definitely somebody that Michael loves or somebody Michael hates, or
do you enjoy playing the shades of gray that somebody
that Michael bay have In terms of their relationship with somebody, it.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Always varies because you know, like playing playing a genuine,
like loving scene with someone always feels so nice, and
it's just like just being able to exude such care
between the two people like it just it is a
comforting kind of thing. I've always found it a little
bit more interesting though, when you have to play both

(18:46):
sides of it, Like I feel like that's kind of
what I've been having to do a lot in my
scenes with Katie, who plays a Willowes, because you know,
they had such a big history together and you can't
just play one note of like, oh, she's doing me wrong.
So I hate her, and I'm gonna, you know, be
angry at her. It's like, this was the love of
his life at one point. So letting love trickle into

(19:10):
those scenes where it seems like it's kind of impossible
to have that be that's I found that to be
really rewarding thus far.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'm assuming because one of the people in chat, they're
all just they're all they're saying loving things about you,
just all over your chat.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Oh, I didn't know there was a chat on chat.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
There's twenty five people in chat just loving your cool
chat chat chat. They lie with us every Sunday. They're
they're loving you. So I know, you got that big
bible called the Bible, you got the Michael Bible. And
somebody that chat actually kind of answers, I'm curious to

(19:48):
you because you're a Corinthos, You're also you're a quarter me. Yeah,
so how are you? How are you kind of playing that?
Because right now they kind of have you doing both
kind of on some level, so.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
They have me.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Doing both, and I kind of I kind of love
it that way honestly, because I feel like he has
just become such a complicated person. Yeah, I think, like
I said earlier, at at his core, he probably I
don't know, he probably wants to lean more into the
quartermain and be like, you know, I don't want to

(20:26):
say chill, because they're not necessarily chilling, not the quarters.
But I think, you know, it's it's less volatile, less intense,
and but I think without really it being a choice,
he's falling into more of that Corinthos side for sure.

(20:47):
But I love getting to play both of them, and
I don't think i'd want it any other way. I
don't know if I'd ever want to go fully one
way or fully the other way, because I think that's
what kind of makes the character more interesting, is that
he is this kind of nuanced, complicated, enigmatic kind of guy.
You know, like he could be so friendly and so

(21:08):
kind and then two scenes later, you know, being like
a bloodlust fight with someone.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, and I saw I saw my buddy Steve Burton
claim you as his father's I'm thinking lovingly, of course,
what they say, I love Steve. But they're saying that
you like in the chat stuff that ain't online. Well,
you know, Michael's real father's Jason, obviously. I mean that's
kind of a thing. So I guess you guys are
building your your relationship to you, aren't you the on

(21:39):
set and the whole.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, for sure, it's and that's been something that's helped
like lend to the dynamics as well, because I wasn't
because I didn't watch any episodes coming into it, or
I saw like clips here and there, but not too
too much. I wasn't really sure how to play that
aspect of it because I have friends who are really

(22:01):
big fans of the show, and you know, some people
are like, well, Age is your dad. It's like, well, yeah,
of course, and then they're like yeah, but you're your
Sonny's kid. And then some people are like, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Not, You're not Sonny's kid, your dad. So it's been like, oh,
the first couple of days, I was like, how do
I play this? How do I play this?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
But just the relationship I've built with with Steven Moe
has really helped that.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
And they're both just lovely, lovely guys.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
That were so incredible, and they're so young, gracious in
scenes with acting and stuff, and I just I love
getting the work with both of them.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
So I claim both.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm not yes, I have got a suspenser also, but
I'm saying fathers.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
A lot of talk onlines always like well, you know,
you know, Jason's been up more right kind of dad
to him and you know, and he especially with the
Daisy scenes, with the with the christening, it was like
they felt a lot of full circle moments were happening
during those scenes. The generations, Yeah, those were nice. Those
are really nice. Another big group scene.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, well you came in on the nurses ball.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I mean that was like, I mean, yeah, my favorite
scene was like, well but you.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Want to so when homeboy but the little boy says
by mommy, was that scripted?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
They looked hilarious, he said, carry off.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
It was scripted. I'm not sure timing wise where it.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Was supposed to be, but I just I just remember
I selfishly was like the second I pick him up,
I'm going to get out of here as fast as
i can, because I wanted to be like kind of
like I got him back and you can't kind of thing.
So I don't know if it was supposed to be
more of a you know, a face to face, but
I was like, no, I'm taking him, he's out.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh. It was dramatic. We loved it, right.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
The yes, just speaking with Steve Burton that that those
first scenes that you had with him out on Sunny's
backyard where you guys just kind of just reconnected after
you returned great stuff. I felt like that just really
I was like, oh, this, Michael's in great hands. You
were you and he were, we were great little scenes

(24:12):
together things. Man.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, I really enjoyed those because, like I was saying,
that was that was the first scene with Steve that
kind of I think helped solidify in my mind what
the relationship was supposed to be, because we had had
a couple of scenes prior to that, but it wasn't
anything that was like super one on one locked in.

(24:35):
That was our first one on one that we had
to do, and the way he played it helped give
me the idea of like, who this guy is to me,
especially at.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
This point in my life.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
And he's just he's so locked in and even though
he's you know, stone cold in the scenes with him,
it's just he he exudes so much care, he really
uh and and it's it's very apparent in the work
and it's a parent when you're working.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Across from him. So yeah, I love those scenes. Those
are really cool.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I would say it's really quick. I just want to say,
I I think you don't really realize I do know
Steve personally, he's actually very hilarious in real life.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
He's funny. He's like super funny.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, he's a total jokester. Trust me, I've had it
happened to me several times.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
He's so so different than his character. He's like tons
of energy, just very like, hey, good morning, guys, what's up?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
And then cameras are on.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
He's I've met made of the actors that they're very
different than they are. Yeah, totally, go ahead, Frank, you
have a question.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Of course, the other side of soap operas is the relationships,
loving intimate relationships. It definitely felt like such chemistry between
you and Sophia when you came back, and then to
know that just the timing comes up that she's decided
to move the show. How does it feel for you?
It's like, oh, man, I thought that we, you know,

(26:07):
maybe had a chance to see these characters kind of grow.
But she's taking off.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Love her, We love her, man, I think you didn't
get her long enough.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
She's Yeah, So Sophia is just she's so incredible and
we you know, we stay in touch.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
We talk pretty often, and.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I just all the scenes that I had with her
felt so rewarding and things. Yeah, it was honestly, it
was kind of strange how quickly things just felt.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Right, you know. I felt like that that whole Daisy birth.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Scene in the courtroom, that was only like the third
time that I had ever even spoken to Sophia, and
it was it was so easy to be connected with her.
And she's just so talented and so lovely and such
a kind, kind person, and I just I, I really
really hope that we get to do this again. I

(27:03):
hope I get to see her on that set again.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, your camerascry, it was just it was crazy because
chemistry can't sometimes manufactured, but it was a it was
a natural with you too.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, And it felt that way too, because that was
another one where, you know, a lot of the times,
the actors we're not really sure where the story is
going either, because things are always changing, always kind of
in motion.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
So I wasn't necessarily.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Sure how I wanted to play my interactions with her,
Like I knew what had happened, but I didn't know
whether or not it was going to go down kind
of romantic route, and then just within the first couple
of scenes that we did, I was like, this just
feels like the right.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Way to go with this, and yeah, it was just
it was so easy to go down that way.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
And she's just so so great and I miss her
dearly and I hope I get to see her soon.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I have mentioned your your I think all of you
guys reaction to Katie's oh my god, her breakdown in
the in the you know, you know where I'm going
be afraid with Like, wow, that was that was good.
It was incredible to walk away from her home like
that was like as a human being, like, how do
you like just go out of character? I'm sorry, girl, Like,

(28:21):
you know, how do you how do you handles like that?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
How did you handle that? Don't see it?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Honestly, I was kind of lucky.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I don't know if you can really see it on
the camera, but in those scenes, first off, I didn't
even really have to act, just because I have Katie
right in front of me, and she's so raw and
she's so real, and she just she's just so good.
She's just so good, and in those moments, she was
just crushing it. And it was devastating to even just

(28:47):
see her like that, because in real life she's such
an up, like positive, happy, kind person, so to see
her in this like devastated, broken state, it was upset
to see. So it was one of those things where
in a character truice, but also just because what was happening,

(29:07):
I didn't want to walk away from it.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Fortunately I didn't technically have to.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
I don't know if you could see it on camera,
but Diane Carolyn pulls me in both those moments, and
when she first comes up to the table and is like, please,
please please, I'm right there with her. Carolyn grabs my
arm and pulls me to the side, and I just
start following her, and then kind of does the same
thing when she stops me at the door.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
It wasn't as much of a.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Poll on that one, but she like she grabbed my
arm again and was just like gave me a light nudge,
and that was enough to kind of like bring me
out of it. So I didn't necessarily have to walk away.
I was I was ushered in.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
A sense, speaking of those things, that that whole sequence
there in the courtroom, it's you know it soaps in
the day, You hey, we can we can rehearse, we
can block this cell out. But I know that the
pace is so fascinating. You don't get the luxury of
doing all that those retakes and plot and planning it
all out. So when you see that motive Katie's choice
for how she's reacting to this was you What did

(30:11):
it feel like to see that big swing that she took?
Is it hard? Is it easier? Like part of you
is like just as a fan, just kind of like
blown away, and the other parton's like, oh yeah, I
remember I got an act in this.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's it's a little bit of both, and every once
in a while you'll get so caught up in it
that you almost forget to act.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
But then you know there's a there's a big responsibility
in that too, because it's like, all right, don't be
too enthralled in what's happening right.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Like It's it's such a weird line to toe because.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
On one hand, you want to just get lost in
the scene because that's where some of the best acting happens.
But at the same time, you don't want to necessarily
get distracted and mess up to take because the person
across from he's doing some of the most incredible work.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
So it's it's a hard hard line to navigate. But fortunately,
I don't know how she does this. I can't do it.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Katie kind of had indicated where she was going to
go in the rehearsal, so even in the rehearsal, she
was able to get to such a place, and I
just I got to give her kudos for that, because
I can't do it. Like when it comes to the rehearsals,
I almost every single time it's kind of a high
stake scene. I always tell them like, hey, I'm going

(31:22):
to do it on the day.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I can't do it in the rehearsal because.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
If I do it in the rehearsal, I'll lose it
the energy when we're actually doing the take. But she's
able to just do it again and again and again,
and it's a real testament to just how much work
she puts in and just how naturally gifted of an
actress she is.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, once she did that first kind of breakdown, they
showed Laura right, I feel like she jumped for real.
She was like, I mean I like it really like
started hitting people like wow, Like that's her nice to do.
Like now she's just really pleading, and it felt natural.
It felt way natural.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
She got she got a nice round of appause from
basically the entire set after that.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Because it was just it was intense. It was really intense.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Man, you get to work with the legendary. She should
be protected at all costs, Jane Elliott.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I do love her.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
She's at all costs. We loved Jane. You guys have
some beautiful scenes too, because she reckoned because that because
her character at Tracy recognizes Michael's place in that family.
I noticed, right she's the You're one of the golden
children basically in the family. So was it like acting
opposite that that any winning legend.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
It's awesome, it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
It's when she was one of the people that I
was kind of the most excited to have a scene with.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Too, because I was familiar with her.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
You know, you spend enough time in this town, you're
gonna kind of hear certain names, and she's a name
that people just know because, like you said, she's just
a legend of this industry.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
And she's just so on it.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
She's such a firecracker and she's got just I don't
know if I've met many people as confident as Jane.
She's she's just with it. She's so cool. She's my
fiance's favorite character on the show. I think, maybe even
more so than my character. She's just incredible. I was

(33:25):
really when I saw that, me and her, because we
had had tiny scenes together here and there where we
maybe say like a word or something to each other.
I know, she had like the moment where she's on
the stand and she kind of, you know, directs some
dialogue towards me.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
But this was the first time that we had like
a big one one and they're pretty heavy.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Scenes, and just she's so dynamic, Like she has like
this incredible ability to like let you know that she
is caring about you with these words, but then also
saying hard truths and she's just yeah, she's she's incredible,
And I hope I get to work with her for

(34:08):
a long time, a long long time, because her she's
just incredible to be around.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yes, right, Brian, What is.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
The pace of GH compared to your previous self experience?
How does the mechanisms change the inner workings? Is it
are you more comfortable working in this sort of pace
or is it like did it take a little while
to kind of get your sea legs.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
It's very it's much more different than I thought it
would be. I went into it just assuming that it
was going to be exactly the same, and I don't
know why I shouldn't have because it's not.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
It's very it's very, very different.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
There's you know, they they're they're gracious with the actors
over at GH and.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Like if you want to do it again, they'll let
you do it again. They want people to feel confident
in what they've done.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
But I come from a bit of a sports background,
and it seems like because we have such so much
time off throughout the year at GH, you know, there
is a responsibility to like come ready, come prepared, come
to get this done. And there is that over at
Y and R as well, but y R shoots year
round whereas we don't, so it's like we have to

(35:22):
get this done.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So I kind of like having that kind of pressure.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
I feel I feel like I perform better and just
enjoy having that kind of energy on set, like more
of a all right, let's go, let's get this done,
like let's crush it.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
And it's just it's it's nice people coming.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
In with so much focus you know, I'm just being
so like the intensity that can bring to certain scenes.
So yeah, I'm I've it was an adjustment for sure,
but I've really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
It few them.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
But that with those built in bit chunks, I'm off
the ghs. Uh do you do you ever have to
think about how to just kind of keep yourself get
your reps in sort of speak during those times so
that when you are shooting that you're you're you're ready,
you know, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still
I'm good to go, or.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
And I've been fortunate thus far that the breaks that
we have had have been relatively short. The longest one
we had was two weeks. So we're just coming to
the close of our biggest one. So I'm really hoping
I don't come in.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
What's going on.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I don't remember how to do any of this. In
five weeks, I'll come back.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I'll come back. It's muscle memory's come back.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
But yeah, there's there's a little bit of that, you know,
just with I didn't go to like a proper school
or anything for acting. You know, a lot of what
I've learned was, you know, just from watching people that
I really admire and I got kind of coached by
my manager. So that's kind of what I've done to

(37:06):
get the reps and to try to stay sharp is
just watching quality work, watching people who I admire and
you know, kind of get inspired.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
By, and then if available.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know, try to get some just even if they're
just foe tapes done with like my manager.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Right, So is Michael a twin alter ego, cousin brother?
What do you look at Michael for yourself? Who is
Michael to you?

Speaker 5 (37:37):
I feel like it's it's interesting because my approach to
acting has changed pretty significantly since my time on Y
and R.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Okay, back when.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
I was doing Y and R, I always thought of
characters as being someone else. Yeah, like it wasn't yourself
and you had to kind of create this entire new person.
And I don't do that at all anymore. I very
much so try to bring as much of myself into
the character as I can as will be allowed.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
So I think Michael is kind of, you know, for
better or worse, a mirror to who I am in
certain degrees. You know, there's definitely certain things that he's
done that I wouldn't have done.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
But yeah, I've I've found that me and him are
quite similar in a lot of ways, and it's been
it's been kind of a weirdly, I don't know, like
I've an epiphany kind of moment playing this guy because
it's helping me see myself in a little bit more

(38:46):
of a clear light.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I think.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
That's actially that you you mentioned that for you, Was
that just a conscious choice that you made between how
you approach characters on wire to until you got to
gh Was it something something that helps you kind of
enjoy the process of acting more kind of this new philosophy.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
There's definitely that, because it was I was getting to
a point where I was putting in, you know, so
many hours in trying to create these characters and trying
to get them as far away from myself as possible,
and then every once in a while you come across
the characters kind of like you and you don't have
to do it as much. But then I just I

(39:26):
can't remember exactly who it was I saw an interview
with it might have been Bill ny or Gary Oldman,
I can't remember, but it was like a vet of
the arts, and they were saying, you just you have
to the only way to make it truly believable is
if you bring yourself into it. So every character, it's

(39:48):
not that it's not you, it's you under the circumstances
that have brought you to this point, instead of who
you actually are in real life. So everything that Mike
Will has gone through, how I portray him is who
I would be had I gone through the same things.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I've never heard that one before. It's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I guess listen to Gary Oldman.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
A few films.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, really low key. You know, not a lot of
people know about him.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Noah, nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
But yeah, bro, you think it's so much, Will come
on the show.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
I mean, one last thing I feel like you need
to ask is worry. Uh, what's one of the best
things that you ate on your on your trip to here?
Aways enjoy a good food recommendation?

Speaker 5 (40:44):
There was so much. There was so much. I'm trying
to think that's one I had. There was this low
because we stayed at a B and B when we
were in post Aitano, and our hosts is like incredible,
and he took us to a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Local spots and I had.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
I had this like probably the best passa of my life,
and I can't, for the life of me remember the
name of it, but one of the spots that we
went to when we were staying in Sorrento, it's called
the Foreigners Club, and it is hands down the best
margarita pizza I've ever had in my entire life. And
I had a margarite to pizza, I kid you not
every single day on this trip, all of them.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
This one, I was just like, it was insane. It
was so good.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
How far into the trip it was it at the end,
so you felt like you won or was it early
and you're like lamenting that that you couldn't have as
pizza as good as that. For the rest of the.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Trip it was like right in the middle, which was nice.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
But then oddly enough, the very last place we went
to wasn't that good.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
But we had this full trip.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Of like incredible, incredible dinner, is an incredible food, and
then we made the mistake of going to like kind
of a super super touristy spot ah and got the
marguerita pizza, And yeah, it was a good pizza, but
in comparison to.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
The rest of them, I was like, and this trip.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
The chef, what is this?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
It was still it was still decent, though I won't
say the name.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
But then it's make you so bad leaving going. I'm like,
all right, we're not missing.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, maybe that's what it was. It was kind of
like you have to turn me from being too sad that.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I I just am so happy for you off cameras
and you're on camera. I mean, this is this is
I'm so glad that you have this role, you have
your fiance. You know, I love you, and I just
think it says I'm sor happy for you.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I appreciate James, thank you so much. You've always been
so kind and so cool. So thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
You come back on welcome anytime. We'll to have you
back on.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
I'll tell you back on thranks shaking his head and
I have know m well enough.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yet I don't know.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
I don't know, Frank, You're right, Frank, that's right, all right, Okay, Roy,
thank you, I mean, thank you for taking time out
of your Sunday take them chat with This is so cool.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Roy gives you guys everybody to check him around the applause.
Thanks we'll talk to you. Thanks for coming on the show.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Thank you, guys. I'll talk soon.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
So yeah, all right, that's great. That's great. Great questions, Frank,
well thanks, James, are you still here? He's great. Questions good.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
You got to think anybody in the chat room, any
four people watching this, thank you so much. That was
where it gives you, guys. So that was my little
treat for you guys today.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I've been really the eighty four came for us.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Is that be able? Of course? I mean I know
now it's a hundred and two hundred two. It's crazy.
If you came in late, uh, you go back and
watch it.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's gonna be. It's in the ventory. He came off
from the very beginning, so you can watch from the
very beginning. Now, So you guys have some questions, he
answered them in the beginning. We answered the beginning. So
thanks for the eye candy, James. Yes, he's a cutie.
We like him.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
But thanks. You know, I tried.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I've done this in a long time and on the show,
I'm trying. I'm gonna smell the stuff to you guys.
We have some other stuff. So for the show ten
years we're doing this, Frank.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Look at us, Look at us gonna rap.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
One day, I'm gona find that music. I'm trying to
find that music and trying to get it so you
can wrap one day.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I haven't clearly found it yet. So hypeter anybody, So
now stuff, We'll go ahead.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
So there'll be times our Facebook will throw up at
our old posts as a memory and I will lament
uh now looking at his greatest here like.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Well, oh no, no, no, I don't meet topic me too.
I'm like, it's gonna be crazy, Frank. I saw the
movie today.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Oh four, I'm like, what is like, Dolores, what are
you talking about? Yes, Fantastic four is out. I have
heard only good things about it so far.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Uh Me. I was expecting not to enjoy it, and
I found myself enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay, see if I've been having hearing good things about it?
So so Lauris went on today, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
For you, guys, what I helped you? Dolores enjoyed it?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Did you like it?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Doris Caulse? We liked it, but thanks for the for
the collapse. It's about the rest of the show now,
of course, we had them on for that.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yes, we have two kids, Peter Corbet and will Cord.
You guys related, let's see you corporates in the same room.
So I mean, okay, so I was gonna I was
gonna start with the end, and we need the frank half.
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I want to start at start with the end because
they actually ended a true cliffhanger, which I'm like, I
am curious to see what Willow does tomorrow. I'm very
I am very curious. Actually for the first time in
a long time. I'm like, yeah, what is gonna happen?
So folks that we don't remember. At the very end,
she look beautiful that dress. I mean, it was a
beautiful dress, and she's about to walk down the aisle.

(46:12):
I think we don't know to Drew. But before that,
some stuff came out.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Before that, Curtis tells Porscha, stop before you do any dang,
mean one more day. Before that, Porscha talks to Willow
and tells something and we're just like, okay, Anne, And
of course, my favorite leasel homegirl was smiling when you

(46:41):
told her that the baby had to get you had
to go with. I loved all of it actually, Frank,
I loved all of it. O sak side note, Hi, Susan,
have you been? She was, and Russo asked, Frank, have
you seen the JH. Marvel promo the air starting in
on ABC during the show?

Speaker 3 (46:58):
H No, I haven't. Does one of them like turned
into mister fantastic?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
And h we watched it all? I watched on Hulu,
so so do I?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
So yeah, so commercial free for me. I pay for
the big Bucks and Hulu.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Frank's a big spender for that.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I will have to go back through my YouTube TV
and find these episodes and see these promos.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Is good?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Are the cheesy promo?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Tell us tell us the chat? Tell us the chat?
Now pay? Okay, So so let's go back to this. Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
So basically we're leading to the wedding. That's so, that's
what's going on. That's one big storyline. We're leading to
the wedding. So, Frank, that that week, the week that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Was on that.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
The thing that bothered me the most of the Curtis
thing because I just don't understand his rationale for it,
where it's like no, no, no, Portional'll tell him. Drew's gonna
get so distracted, by this, like, if Drew finds out
that you're the one that told Willow, he's still going
to blow up Portions life. Even if his life's blown up,
He's still gonna blow up Porsche's life. Uh, or even

(48:06):
if he never found out that it was Curtis, but
that this secret came out for him, not to think
that Drew wouldn't be petty enough still to just blow
up Porsche's life just like misery loves Company. I'm also
gonna do it, you know, take you down with me
because I have to go to DC to leave. So
it just seems stupid to me that I was like, Porsche, yes,
make your resignation, deal with the heat whatever. It is. Great,

(48:29):
You're you're officially out underneath Drew's thumb for sure, it's
completely validated like this, it still exists. I'm so irritating.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
That's why I agree with you. I actually agree with
Frank on this one completely. I found the same. I go, well,
he's still out of revenge still tell I'm like, yeah,
I thought. I'm like he's like, go, oh my gosh,
she found like I lost Willow. So now I'm not
gonna do anything to you.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'm like I mean like, right, are you gonna mean
so make it more angry if he loses?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Will that all y'all don't get it? That's how I
look asked everybody he was going a war path. That's
what I'm thinking, right, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's scorched dirt at that point, like if I'm in
if I'm in misery, yes, who's everybody else that I
can hurt, just as much as.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
It's like fall down a treat brand and see everybody
every's coming down? What I might say, the promo was
really cute. That telling you is what it is. They're saying,
it's really cute. Uh, but no, I I just I'm
with you. I was like, okay, but I was proud
of Porsche for telling what was going on. I was
proud of that. I was like, finally people are starting

(49:39):
talking all of a sudden. So finally she was just
like She's like, that's your kids, and it was now
is it me?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Frank? Am I seeing some chemistry between Porsche and doctor
feel good.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Oh it's not you. It's not you, James, It's it's everybody.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Like this, this 'm in there going on? There you
know what's going on? Fully, but there she's I'm like, hm, anyway,
but yes, when she told will I was like, well, okay, yeah,
she was like yeah, but that.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Was yeah, I mean that which seeing that is how
you imagine I guess that's supposedly like Nina's feared that,
you know, she told him that. And Nina's just like, oh, okay, whatever,
I'm still marrying Drew anyway.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Right, okay, okay, we'll go on to that too. Just
I mean, just because it's part of the storyline. I
was screaming at the TV. I know, well, it's your fault. No,
it is your fault. I mean, and again, you and
I have had to be you and I have said
this before. I feel like we said this every year
since the character's been on the show. Nina started to

(50:47):
defend herself a little bit, but then fell into weepy oh.
But at first she was like wait a minute. She
was like, no, I tried to warn your chance.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I get yeah, like I and she did just and
she started listening to things she was doing. She's like, no, no,
I try my best to get you to stay with
her family marriage. I was like, yeah, Nina, yeah, you
tell her, And then all of a sudden she feel
like to a weepy my daughter. I'm like they do
to her all the time, right, they get her started,
like she's gonna do something.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Yeah, yeah, because I Will had to say it was like,
but you didn't tell me the one thing that would
have stopped me, Like, no, Will, there is no the
way you were acting, who would have known, Who would
have known if that wouldn't even have stopped you or not.
I had no way of knowing that, so you know,
so yeah, I was so bummed that Nina just so
easily just thought.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I was like we always told this every year, like
they get her started, like she's gonna take like chake
charge Nina and they'll screw all y'all.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
But you know, then they make her weepy. I just
watch my d's gonna lose like like on writers.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah. And the other thing too, is that I just
hated that. I was like, a sweet Trina is coming,
they're gonna break it down to Trina, what's going on?
Awesome And then stupid Curtis and his dumb ideas, Oh no, no,
we just wanted to see how things are going with
you and Kai.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Because because when when Homegirl said we're going I'm calling
Trina and we're gonna tell her everything.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I said, yes, especially from Portia, who has been the
biggest uh you know, you know, like I just want
to cuda coddle Trina that yes, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I was.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I was like, yes, okay, good, okay, Nope, Nope. At
one scene, uh are you? I told you what I meant?
I love you?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Blah blah blah, and I she was like, bye, boy,
she's had no channel work for it, Like we didn't
need we didn't need that scene. I was like, that
was just an uncalled for scene. Where are you going?
Why are you all dressed up? Were was wet? And
that was like we're done. I'm like like, yeah, we're done. Bye,
I'm not staying.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
You know. He just wanted to explain himself, James, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
We need this, we need that scene my time too.
I'm like, I'm like, we didn't need him, we didn't
need him.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I mean, clearly Kai is still going to be around
because Drew needs people that kind of like him around him.
So I feel like Kai will be there for a while.
But I still don't see the point of kay we
He has no old relationships outside of Curtis's family.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Does I don't see him.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I don't get it either, And I said again, they
kept his best friend. He was just a reoccurring character.
We always say this, Give me a scene where you
have a talking You talk to your best friend about stuff.
Oh my god, I messed up and blah blah blah,
and he gives you a perspective that you know they
like the eye.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Nope, look at that either. We don't get that. All.
Bringing back all Breked actually was a wonderful thing. It's
I almost forgot she has so much family.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Will I almost forgot that, and Willows hurt her niece,
So I thought that, so I'm they wisely again national treasure.
Our friend Kathleen Gotti wisely brought her back on because
she has been my favorite line, folks with.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
The whole week. You promised me a bar ohen bar.
That's not in years, that's afterwards, so we probably I
thought you promised to be good.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
You promised me an open bar. That was my favorite
line the whole thing. Eva they say it's an open bar,
not now, but the reception. That was my favorite line.
You promised me an open bar. That was on hair line.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I did like that also, just like at Lisa would
expect the open bar right there at the church.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, I know, I tell you, Like, well I'll take
that though. I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Kathleen, guy who looks beautiful these days, coming everybody, just
like he loves her too.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Her is coming in. She was kind of our voice
in a weird way, like it was a fans voice.
I feel like, let me what you think.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Well. And also the way that she talked to Drew,
she wasn't insulting, but also just you know, coming to
like you know it feel like you know that Halo
is turnished now given your actions, Why don't they.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Have a problem in our relationships? No, I mean, I'm
grateful for you rescuing me. However, Comma and she's like
and her Elizabeth are kind of funny together too. It
was like, I guess she had her little shade towards
Elizabeth too.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
It had been someone that I had forgotten that she
was squalky about her about about the brid stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I totally forgot too.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I was like, oh my god, like that was that
was good, good folks to get back in there. But
she was like, but they were you know, because they
explained why Maxie is not there. Obviously we don't Maxie
in real life. It's not there and that's fine, that's
I mean, it was it was serviceable. It was fine
that you know, you get four Maxie, she's not here,
and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It is weird though, given just a side step, uh
for a second, is the way that Lisa was talking,
especially with reactions with Elizabeth like she does. She's not
in on Britt being alive still or I mean, I
guess we don't know if it's Brit or not, but
it's got to be Britt because if it's not Britt,
it's dumb.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I agree. Yeah, she did not either. She really came
to see Rocco. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I think what that means is when we get Brett back,
it's gonna be some great scenes. Obviously there's gonna be
some amazing scenes, which I'm fine with.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Actually I thought me the other way around, but actually
I'm okay. I'm like, I'm okay with that. Derek Roage says, yes,
her conversation with you was i'd say, your here reputation
is tarnished, would you agree? And oh my god? Or
I'm a doctor not a Florest me with the floor range,
I'm not a flor. I'm just saying she was a
I mean, she was one of the best parts of
They wrote some really great lines for my girl Kathleen

(56:38):
to say this.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Oh my god. Oh credits, Oh yeah, it did come out.
If you didn't see it, then she did say she's
bread or digest, and the credits confirm its bread.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Great because it needs to be because if it's not,
if it wasn't Britt, it would be awful.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It's like, yes, mine, the whole Brits getting to know
Rocco and somehow they developed something and somebody just said
they love Liz on Rocko. They were they were taking
selfie that made me laugh. To you, it is selfie.
Oh my god. Lulu was ready to jump out her
skin when she saw that. Oh I laughed anything bothers
Lulu makes me happy, so that makes it. That made

(57:20):
me so happy. It is that, And she didn't she
know he's gonna be there. He just happened to be.
I be there, so I love I'm kind of like
this little I never saw this on my Bingo card
as this kid saying that they were doing this storyline
at all.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
I never saw that coming.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, what I like. And I because like Lou, especially
Lulu is so adamant that that Rocco would just be
like putting this little old cage, you know, where he's
just not impacted by anything. And Rocco's telling him is like,
you may have your reasons for not liking this person.
It's like, but they're not mine, so don't be telling
me how I'm supposed to be feeling about somebody. I

(57:57):
was like, yes, through your head, yes, yeah, that everybody's
going to think about Britt the exact same way that.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
You did at all, and you're basically doing too. They're
doing you what you're doing to Brooklyn with getting close
to Geo.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah mm hmmm. I love how Lou thought she could
intimidate Old Bright.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I know, Old Mid was like okay, girls, get out,
When I was like, okay, girl whatever, She's like, you
don't care about Lulu's like, I'm not worry about Lulu
and mean about her any.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Even the little scenes with Jason earlier too, where she's
trying to like, you know, like call Jason on it,
and it's like, hey, you know, you know, if I
accept what you your reality in Britain. Then you've got
to accept mine. Yeah, you know, you know, totally different,
come out, Lulu. He said, I met her, I met
her a different time. I didn't know her during that.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
He wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I mean, you say history, he was not there. And
he said she was a different she was a different
person and she regretted her actions. She was a differ
person when I met her. So he's like, you're right
not to like her. He's like, Jason will never tell
you how to feel. You will never die, so you
don't do that. But I was shocked, though, were you
shocked to that? I thought he was going to go
follow her, but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
He came home because he flew under private jet. Why
does he not just fly to the desk that airport?
And and then I didn't understand that part.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I didn't either, That's what.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah, I mean, he made his head. Do you think
I want a ticket to get on that plane? I'm like,
you also have a private jet, dude, Just go to
that go to that Croatian airport, find her there.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
So that's that's interesting. But yeah, that I think that
the biggest thing we're learning is that I don't think, oh,
break is a part of it. I think I think
it's a signing something somebody does something somewhere. We don't
know what it is yet, but I think it's and
and so it's alive.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
The curious thing I'll be is the Huntington's to see
if that is part of how she was saved that
he had. Does she, through a soap opera thing is
genetically altered so that her Huntington's is no longer a factor?
Is that why she is this part of it all?
Or does she still have her Huntington's and gonna play

(01:00:12):
a role in it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Okay, I want to say, I to the one hundred
and thirteen people watching us right now, it came for you, James.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
They came for Frank and his wrap. Me m, I
love it that you guys are coming here this weekend. No,
it's it's it's it's oh breaks the best. Just having
her back is the best, and and her just kind
of reading and Nina reading by just reading everybody. Jason's
flying coach back home, I know. I was like, it's
like all of a sudden, there's no jet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Yeah, she's one way like that that that pilot that
private jet is just like, is he coming back? I
don't know? Should we should we?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Frank, we have to give that the guy his seat
partner got a lot of screen time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He sure did. And the way they framed those shots
it made it may Did you think that he was
gonna be something?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I know, but he was nothing. But so shout to
that guy, whoever he is. Yeah, he got some screen time.
I got maybe know somebody in the the production office.
They're like, we're gonna show you and for his real
as far as real, right, that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Was, I mean, well and then hey else said that
show where he looked at the camera linked.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah, I was like, I thought he gave a jet Tosasha. No, no, no,
he just took He just took her over there, Marlone.
He just took her to drop her off. That's what
he was gonna drop her off and then go back home.
I guess what that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Would be like, Hey, by the way, just have this jet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Jason said he was going back to us a VA
com Sheryland. I didn't. I didn't hear that part. So
he told Parker was just taking to you or just
oh maybe he was trying to be safe. I guess.
So I'm sorry, I got to miss I missed that part,
so he missed that part.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
He just did a one way, one way private jet rental.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Maybe maybe trying to save the way follows him or something.
I don't I don't know, but it still makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Uh oh brat Yes invection, Yeah, that's our whole points that,
this whole storyline, we have Willow's descent.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
We saw Scout finally, and you saw Alexis corrected Drew. Yeah,
her brothers, I don't know you well that she would
beg to differ or what she said. I was like,
that's right, Alexis, you tell him those are her brothers, Scout,
Danny and rock arm for sure about rock O you no,

(01:02:31):
that's and she's like no, And I like the way
Lexus did that. And actually I didn't mind their talking either,
Alexis and Drew because it's it's she has a reason
to be she's not quartermintd she has no reason to
hate him so much. But she's just like cautious because
of Scouts. Yes, yes, And that was the whole point,

(01:02:52):
was that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
She's looking out for Scout and that her family is here,
and that she's the one who talked to him that
later Scout kind of said, well, I'll be a family here,
So Drew was kidding not what he wanted with that either,
so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Uh, you know, and I know people are not thrilled
with Drew, and you know, I mean, he is in
the best way of frustrating character that is good to
have on the soap. But what I least liked about
it is that they did have Drew like figuring out
that Willow was the one that was messing around with

(01:03:32):
Sasha's baby, like at least and trying and realizing that
it's because I feel like I just need a guy,
can't be bad guy all the time. So like in
those interactions with Kai, you see more of just like
the Drew of old and him at least having a
moment where it's like, uh, oh, what's going on with
my girl? I think I messed her up, maybe because

(01:03:52):
she's doing the stuff to this baby. At least, it's
not like he's just like a total heel. It's not
like he was like, oh, yeah, little was doing it.
She's going to the dark side just like me. At
least it was like a human moment to be like
genuinely concerned about Willow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Well, yeah, I see that coming either. Actually, but he
was like, hmm we started thinking about all this. I'm like,
oh my god, he figures it out. That's I didn't
see that coming. Yeah, riders, I give us some little surprises. See,
I'll give him surprises. And so he's really thinking about it, like,
wait a minute, which the one he's doing this, Like
that's that women concerning because whatever she's developing a D
I D story wherever she's starting to black Like that's

(01:04:27):
I think he's like, wait a minute, there's something wrong here,
Scout asking mom Willow mon, can I call you mommy?
So I'm like I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yeah, we wouldn't hear that very often anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
So yeah, so whatever you decide to do about that's
why me. But no, I like to like send his
talk and actually Willow and Elizabeth again, she's a coworker,
they're supposedly friends. She had to liver then, you know,
and they showed the cutting so then announcement everything Ray

(01:05:03):
fall like, I just makes sense why Lizabeth is like,
I'm doing this for you. You're you are a coworker,
we are friends. I will do that. I'm just from
Maxie I will do this. It's within the rights. I mean,
I said, I don't find there was anything crazy about either.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
And l like that Marty was there only if you
pay him. He paid me to come to your wedding.
I'll be there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
And then Rick when he walked in and see A
see E Lizabeth, He's like, are you trying to fill
the seats?

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
And it's like, yeah, I think so too. When we
got because as first as like, yeah, why are you here?
I think, oh, that's right, what I think I helped him,
you know, with the that was like divorce and oh,
that's right. He did step in. We'll just kind yeah
because we almos forgeting how Martin's always gone and he
said man and he's like yeah, but he's trying to
fill the seats and my that's actually pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
But I'm not. Again, this is a small thing, but
I don't like it, the defanging of ava Ama being
so jealous. I'm looking Elizabeth that she's just skulking around
behind us and giving him a cold shoulder. It's not
do anything for me, no.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
No, And it's because we're not saying enough of them
together too to really kind of play into this. So
it's just like all right, it makes it seem Ava
is very insecure about this, and we're just like, come on,
you're your Rome baby, right, you don't worry about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I just it's not working for me, so I don't
know it just I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
But then that's also I mean, well, you know, now
they're trying to just kind of you know, shore up
the Cody and Molly's side of it, so it you know,
it has some sort of impact on Molly when they
when it comes out that Ava and Cody have slept together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Molly, what's his name? Oh my god, he plays code
because of his name. Josh Kelly had me chuckling when
he did. And I want I was gonna, I was
gonna a yeah, I know him to, I was gonna
take him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I met him through you know, Tony Moores. I interviewed him.
I want to ask him if that little shitty he
did He's like okay, type red eyes on. I'm like,
was that improv? That made me laugh so hard?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Like, I mean, him and Molly are cute together, and
you know, this whole friendship thing is kind of cute.
It is kind of cute. That's why I hate this
whole Averra storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yeah, because it's just gonna be just so unnecessary speed
bump into any kind of developing relationship between them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
And of course he got homegirl Christina.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Oh, he's like, he's just a sleazy guy when he
ask you this, and I'm like, I like, but I
did laugh. We greet him as Rory and laughed. Way
he goes, am, I go to distract him with what
do what? Or sport so something? And we never saw
the conversation were kind of fun We had a funny cover.
They just saw the conversation really but think it were

(01:08:05):
kind of funny. But they had like an awkward conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
We see that, so what's some of these horses?

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Horses?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
It was kind of crazy to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Willow and Drew's back to will Andrew's wedding. What putting
on your speculator hat? Which way do you think they go?
Does Willow mary Drew, even though she's mad at him
about all this because being married still would be the
best chancing at the kids, or does she be like, Nope,
I'm blowing this all up. And then if I show

(01:08:38):
that I'm just my own person, that will be more
likely for Michael to uh forgive me and we can
get I can see the kids sooner that way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I'm starting a poll in honor of Frank Oa. Some
people chat were saying stuff, did Drew and Willow get married?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yes or no? Go ahead and vote.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I know somebody last name Roads in the air I
think it was Derek Road said on their show Queers
and Soaps they think they can get married. So my
answer will be okay, this show is cuckle crazy, so
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Let's see if they get married.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
If she says I'm gonna still marry him and then
do like revenge to him while being married, that might
be even more interesting. And she works with Curtains or
works with like that to take him down, and she thinks,
we bet what if she marries him and she gets
with Michaels Michael, I know everything. I'm so sorry. Let's

(01:09:35):
take him down together, right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
That could be good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, and she preen up so she'd get some of
that sweet you know last quarter made money.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Right, I'm like thinking, and then she goes a little crazier.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
That could be good, or she could go screw you,
go off on at the at the altar and be
with good great scenes. Obviously storm out and I'm doing
I'm juiced by myself. But Michael softens, it still softens
to her, like he said that the love of his life.
I have a feeling he still loves her on some level.

(01:10:12):
So this could be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I'm like, oh, I got if you were choosing, I
got to yous. Okay, we got it, Frank, what he thinks? Okay,
so so far it's forty four fifty six. No, it's close,
it's not. It's not a last time any means that
was changing. Okay, I'm a time stamp it. I'm gonna
say yes to get married. M Yeah, I was sticking

(01:10:37):
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
I'm sinking to it. Let me get my gabble out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah, it's uh, we're adjourned everybody, all right, see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
But had a gable. I had to get one too,
so we but we have both have gables. Like I said, so,
so you said so, James, I said so flow Well, Frank,
what is your time stamped response? Is next to find out?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
I feel like it makes it messier and soapier if
she does marry him and try to destroy him from within,
kind of deal, So I will go like, because they're
really setting it up, especially the way she comes in.
When she comes into that room on Friday, she's looking

(01:11:20):
at all like not good, uh, that she will say yes,
she'll say yes to the dress.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yes, the dress. That's right, kind of like, so that's
your answers, your final answer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Kind of answer. She will get married. It's gonna make
it messier that she does that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
And so it is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
They're both said they're saying a chap because they think
because of the flashbacks, she still thinks her best chance
for custody Juice failed her, so she's about to destroy him.
So they think she will marry him and something really
crazy and Michael's gonna rescue her. So right now, it's

(01:12:05):
not keep voting, folks, right right now, it's it's we
have one hundred nine people watching. If we were thirty
votes right now, so far it's forty five fifty five. No,
So it's not a landslide at all. Now it's not
so far, it's pretty close, which is I That's what
I'm saying. It's a good cliffhanger because we really don't
this show is so unpredictable where we don't really some shows,

(01:12:26):
I could go, they're getting married or as long as
go because we're Homeboy and Homework got married. Curtis sup
Porter got married. Still the baby thing, the whole praturnity
thinking about afterwards. But they still got married. So I'm feeling,
I know, yeah, we both we both pick yes, still
get married. So well, we'll know next week. We will

(01:12:48):
know next week. We will know next week we're correct
or not? Hi, lepardess. Uh, the flashback was Drew failing
to get her kids back. She's pissed. No, I'm not
saying she's upset. She's mad at you too. I think
she's she's like, oh my god, it's not all News fault,
sorry bitch, but yeah, but she's she's mad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
But she's mad. She's mad at Drew. She's mad.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
She's like that's yeah, yeah, And we haven't even had
her learn about how Drew run with the German facility either.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
That'sn't come out. That's not come out, And.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I feel like, yeah, that's like, you know, that's the
other thing, the big thing that needs to come out
to really solidify with will that like, this Drew guy
is not the guy I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I a feeling it'll come out that Michael says something
we're talking and goes just like you're saying, you can't
see me, you can't see me in German like I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
I never said anything. Am I click with her then too?
He said it several times already. I never know that's
not true information you're til Carty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I never. I never said that. I never. I didn't
know she was there, Joy Jensen. Since Drew believes Willow
targeted Daisy Well, we're trying to commit her to ferm cliff.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Well, is something too? There could be I mean he
hazard now what if he does, Yeah, he could do
I mean, be married or you can do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Spell. It could be one of those back of the
both try to get each other.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
That's true things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I's looking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Frace is priceless because I know because it was like
it's gonna be a wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
We gotta go like look over here, like oops, that's right. Kids.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
So I mean, I just it's I know, I'm not
finished gonna marry him, just to just to just to
take it like like the the the rose cut glasses
are gone. Now it's gonna be off that's it. We're
all gonna hate it because we're gonna get married. We
go like, oh yeah, married, but it might be some
good stuff. It might be some good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Admittedly, I mean, yes, she's mad about this stuff that
m Drew and and Nina. But to your point, James, like,
when Portia tells you her like, hey, this is what
you Drew wanted to blackmail me, to do something you know,
ethically wrong with Michael's records, making it look like a
drug addict, She's like, fine, whatever it takes. Its Like, So,

(01:15:14):
I mean, Willow when it comes to her kids, is
willing to just forgive a lot of Drew shadiness.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
I think so, I think so so. But but she
remembered it. But she said I want your kids back
and didn't happen. So I she's just she's she's mad.
Everybody everybody got her nerves. Ain't ain't nobody did her right.
So I was like, oh, okay, so far it's still

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fifty eight to forty two. Yes, no, so still no,
I had some It's close to you, guys, because it's
not said landslide.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
But he could go that's the whole thing, and can
go either way. This show who knows and go either way.
So I'll end the poll now, but thank you guys
for voting it at forty.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
What I guess is a good story point, like if
it was so one sign of it, Uh yeah, there
really isn't allowed to get viewers invested. But you know,
such a such a close poll.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
The other the other storyline, another another storyline or show
that I didn't see coming either, but I kind of
I'm kind of enjoying it, the fallout of brother and sister,
Curtis and Carl Curtis, Lucas and Carly never saw that coming. Actually,
I it's funny how they're all even on lot grow like, wow,

(01:16:30):
Lucas must be whipped blah blah. I'm like, you know,
because bye by Marco. But everything Lucas was saying, he
wasn't wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
No, it's true, and it felt like it's tough because
it's like, we're how this soap world has kind of
normalized stundies my behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You know, he wasn't wrong, and yeah maybe he's maybe,
as we say in the business, he's digmatized.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
That's when they say in the business, all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Right, digmatized. I bedigmataized too. It was him Marco was hot,
but I think you know, not just that alone. You
lose got him a man. Finally you got him a
man he likes. But see, but Carty wasn't wrong either.
You don't know him that well. And we saw at
the very end he goes to his daddy. Now I'm

(01:17:20):
in and homeboy hugs him in. So I just I
just think it's so. I think it's I think you
know when he when he when this new level and
love is new. I mean, Frank and I don't have
we don't know anything about this. But when love is new,
it's exciting. And he just everything's rose colored everything. He's
so happy and everything, and you're in there. That's what

(01:17:41):
happens to me first. I mean, I get lous is
like want to save his man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Even he said, I'm like going to fem meywhere bad,
like going to you fast whatever. Marcael said, no, he said, God,
come on in. But again, you don't know Marco that well.
His mother was shady, his father is shady, not saying
we're shady to you because our parents. However, Comma, now
we're seeing see I like the scene and gave us

(01:18:06):
a scene with Sidwell and now we see Marco, but
he didn't tell. I was like, oh, I said, oh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
When he went to the police station and didn't tell,
made a whole story of I gotta say this. Another
thing made me laugh. You guys all know in real life,
Carlo Rota, who plays Gens, and the da are married
in real life, so you have them, and and and
Mo there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Who plays Sonny. It was his reactions when Marco was
telling the story that made the laugh because Dylan two
were so annoyed. But now you have to tell you

(01:18:51):
where he is. And when Marcos showed up, I was like, oh,
and he didn't he didn't tell. He did not tell,
and and that's the thing, so he got it, so
he knew what he was doing. But oh, so you know,
that's a pretty quiet story, wasn't sunny. He's like, yeah,
like I just stop laughing. I was just hilarious that he.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Was Uh yeah, I mean, and you'll get a nice
uh little smoochie smooch scene with Marco and Lucas. Uh yeah,
it's you know, I mean, I feel like we're gonna,
you know, we're gonna run into the same thing that
happened with Lucas and brad Uh that you know, It's like,

(01:19:28):
Lucas has very high standards. Somebody should be anything ethically
and morally. Uh, and so when they fall short, then he,
you know, is quick to drop him. So I'll be
curious now that Marco's kind of embraced uh working with
his dad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Saying the dark side, right, yeah, you know the dark side.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Is Lucas gonna learn that, Hey, there's you know, there's
a lot of shades of ray as everybody else has
been trying to tell him, and He's like, no, there
aren't shades of gray. There are right, it's black and white.
I'll be curious to see if Lucas changes his mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I would say the same thing. So I'm wondering to
you if Lucas will finally come around and go, Okay, Carli,
you're right, I do love him. I'm hooked in now. Yes,
he's doing bad stuff in his father like, yeah, I
will lose get slapped. And I wanted to get slapped
in the face a little bit because he's very self righteous.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
So I always feel like there are shades of gray.
So that's gonna be this will be a slap in
the face because you're Loui's gonna find it's gonna come
out thought and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Marcous not gonna and Marcu's not gonna. It's gonna offend
himself and say I'm doing this for a reason. I
want Sunny down. So but with him fighting with Carly'
they kind of hurt a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I was like, I'd like them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
I was them fighting at getting along. But that's a
good brothers sister thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
But I feel like he's gonna have a walk of
shame and go back to Cardor like you're right, sis,
I feel that's gonna happen at some point, because again
he wasn't wrong, but you get this. But but Lucas,
you were born yesterday, you can't be just like you
gotta get out of your life from that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I'm come on, it's it's Sunny. It's like you guys
are all family, and I know it's Sunny has no
decent use for him. He was like, I don't want
to fight with you, and he's like, I don't time.
He's like, I don't have I have time for you
over here, And when he's talking to Carley, he sure
has hooked on. Mark wasn't like I couldna stop laughing.
But it's like Carly and Carry is never gonna love.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Sunning or Jason. You know that, Lucas, That's that's never
gonna happen. That's never gonna happen. Never, never happen like that.
We just they we watched this show has been off
for how long, and it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Come on, come on, Lucas.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I Carly has gone through a lot with studying in
her life and has not abandoned him yet Ohna or
Jason too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
You're not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. So Lucas,
good luck. You just lost his sister here anything.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
She's gonna drag again when he comes crawling back dragging.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Oh I know, I love it. I can't wait. I
can't be like, you're right, yeah, okay, that's my prediction.
That's what happened, because they this. I like that. They again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I always ask to give me a scene, be really quick,
but give us a scene showing us that Marco is
actually on his father's side. And when Sonny taken down.
So but he's playing it off with Lucas a little bit,
which is fine. I'll fine. We know what's going on
at home. I'm like, yes, that's that's good. That's that's good.
That's good for me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Hi, I feel like that that's Marco's. That can play
into Marco's justification to Lucas when it comes out, it's like,
you wanted study gone as bad as I did. This
is the way I chose to do it was by
working to Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Yes, I think you lebards for a ten dollars simmer chash.
She says she's our number one fan.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Oh, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
No, I know I hope that he says that. He's like, well,
lou we will wants something out right. You can't judge
about how I do it? Yeaes and but do give
don't but see that's a good story to riding. It's
like that gives them some conflict too. They okay, and
then like I say, you may have to go back
to to to uh to Carl and be like, okay,
how do I how do I handle it? Who knows

(01:23:18):
Carty's a big sister may take it back in her
open arms, say okay, just whatever, let's let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Oh she's not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Gonna be and I'm sure she will, but I would
like it if she dragged him, I know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
She'll take it back in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
But just you know that she's not going to and see,
we already know that we have other stuff coming up
for her. What's on this week, We know that well.
But we know that the whole Jocelyn b Everybody's everybody's
finding out of Johnston's wsp ah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
So when that comes out her and and Jack or
whatever's name is, it gonna be just you'll be blown
the sky high. So we know that we know that's happening. Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Oh yeah, Marco went on, I say to Maurice's stay
of mind today, his name is Adrian in real life.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
The the butter about the the Carly uh and WSB
storylines or stuff with the little Jack is there hasn't
been enough time invested in them, Like we even see
when we get the rentals out of the Metro Corp
pool first, we haven't really seen each other in a while.
It's like, yeah, it's just like I'm not going to

(01:24:20):
get as invested when all this goes south for the
two of them as would be like if we had
actually kind of spend time trying to solidify them as
a couple. Right, Uh, yeah, because right now it's just like, okay,
well so now Carly knows you know, Jocelyn's WSP agent,
Brendan recruiter. Okay cool.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
So yeah, I'm not this is a storyline I'm not
excited about anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
So well, I think like the fun stuff will be
like whoever this? I mean, as sid Well told the professor,
like the you know, there's a courier is coming next
week wanting stuff. So hopefully this week we get sub
movement of what the hell this all is? I feel
like once that opens up, it could be cool. And
I'm sure Brits involved in it somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yeah, I don't know. It was like, yeah, well, okay,
what else we got going on?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Uh No, I mean, you know we're gonna see DoD
they get, you know, involved in the the w s
b A, all of it. Yeah. The hot scene just
watching Vaughan just out at the airport.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
She goes like you need to leave gover there, and
he's like standing over by the by the by the counter.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
He's like looking and the calls I'm busy right now
watching my father, and I was like I started laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Never we laughed to bricks and make it down bricks
make it down.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
But but that was funny with we got some spell
Spinelli action see Spinelle James and break throwing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
The throwing using that sets o break tutor was hilarious.
And he's like, oh, this isn't concerning at all, right,
I'm like, yeah, it's like I love Spina's reaction and
him calling Lulu and their friends.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
If I just get their friends. So they am calling
Lulu and then Lulu calling Dante.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
So I don't know, I'm I just I just I'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I'll give points for cross pollinating. And there's a lot
going on. Actually there's a loss of one on. Actually
there's a lot of movement around larger groups of these
other staff, the staff of the of the actors on
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
So I'll give them I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
I guess, yeah, if you want, I'm talking, I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
It's something kind of positive, like you know, it's yeah.
I was like, it's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
And you know, I guess you know, we have now
been kind of given the entry point for uh like
to come in with.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Yeah, there's that that crayon colored envelope and I guess
I drew on it, I guess or something was that weird.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Was that weird? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
I mean I yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's like
one of the kids, like Wiley took it from the
quarter that after you know, coloring get like crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
I guess. So Homeboy reads it, a guy, a guy
Martin reads it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
That's that there's something out of there, some some secret
or some hidden thing from Monica's past.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
So I want to say this. I will say this.
I see online a lot of folks getting mad for
the X coming on. She's Erica Slazy sixth time. I'm
glad she's coming on. In fact, she might play it.
She might play a sister of Monica. Yes, Monica was
an orphan, but you can always pike it. You can

(01:27:51):
always pick a sister. Yes, you got to cuss on
the show once a long time ago. We know she
had kids, but who cares. I mean, just bring out
I mean, okay, I have no problem with making her
a sister or a cousin or I have no problem
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
I just want doesn't bother me. I know this history
and stuff, but I don't. It's like it was gonna
help us your Monica or help us here a storyline
that's satisfactory. I'm fine with it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
I would rather be asshure to get to a recast.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
We talked about it and I agree to it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Blesson, you know, I'm sure, like I guess if she
was adopted, maybe her birth parents had another daughter. All right,
who's you know? And this is the daughter our sister
of Monica, who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Thank you, Crystal Hopkins for your ten dollars super chat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Thank you very much. You guys, we love you, you know, Crystal.
It's also Disabled Awareness Day, I think also for sag
after and stuff for today also, So that's right. I
think it's I was thinking about you today.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Well, Monica to our nos and have siblings. That's the
whole part. We didn't have to turn now. She was
adopted and I did a whole story on that. I
did a h J JR.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Dean's why I tell you how Monica and Scott Baldwin
are related because it was there was Lee and Gail
Baldwin who took her in. Gail Balwoind had taken her in.
That was the whole thing. There's a whole long story.
I did a whole story of that. Put her on
the channel. You can look at it. I'm gonna have
to repost that. But there's a whole story, but no

(01:29:23):
trying knowledge didn't she didn't have any siblings or anything.
She had a cousin, Lorena Tharp Corner show, Sharp Corner
show once a blood cousin. That's it, Sherry says, you
love to see. Eric says that come on as Willow's
therapist and tie in the d.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
D history A nice Yeah, you got.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
A little nod to obviously Vicky, Nicky Tory, Princess Tommy,
Jean Randolph. What's that? All the altars. There's a bunch
of them, all of them, Frank, he's all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Taking all of them, had a bunch. So that was
that was the thing. Eric's not playing Monica that we
know of. We wanted that, but that's not gonna happen. Yeah,
we said, we just did. Yeah, yeah, Laurena Sharp. Yeah,
let's say. If I'm barring to me, I guess so
she was a cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
I mean, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
So I don't mind her playing a new character. I
don't mind that. I just I just don't. It's it's
it's Erica fucking slaves hack, I don't. I mean, I
want her to read the phone book.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like, do you do
you would you rather just not see her at all
on your TVs? Or would you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Big name for it?

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
I think it's disrespectful to Leslie Charleston. Don't give her
a story, lifter, she's gone, just her legacy. I'm saying,
this could be leading to her, you know, die on
the show. I mean, I think it's just this could
be leading I've heard reports, I don't know anything. This
could be leading to her departure. So I'm okay with
that too. I mean, you know, I mean, I don't
want I'm saying. I'm say, if it's gonna lead to
killing Monica, then that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Also, I think, yeah, I don't know. As we've talked about,
we could recast and still honor Leslie.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I know, I know that's happened. Some of the chats
say yes, I'll just say no, yeah, well, I mean
you've fought with the chat, Frank, go ahead and fire
them with today.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Nope, I only have left with the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Okay, one hundred and twelve people watching, that's right, I
love it. Yes, I like the WSB story. Yes, right, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
What I like about the WSB storyline is that we're
just seeing it passed down to the next generation, you know,
because it's like, you know, you know Robert is you know,
this may be the last time we've seen Robert at all. Uh,
you know, and so you know, Anna's are kind of
our last kind of big, big character vault. I mean,
first has gone, uh you know, Sean's gone. Uh, So

(01:31:50):
to have somebody younger be involved to still kind of
keep that sort of story device active on the show,
I'm all for.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
That's great. Well, that's great, Frank, I don't agree at all.
Long time done.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Oh and we also have the other storyline too, is
this week was the Deception home shopping visit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
To try to forget that. So I did a big surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
They brought I would saying Luna, and I know it's
not her name Susan Batton from Why So he brought
her back on not Morgan fair Trot, apparently a side
to give us some Lois. I was surprised to like, oh,
like okay, and they had Lois and and I can
call her Luna and Luna talking afterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
I need to see any of those scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
It was interesting that that. I mean, they gave Lois
that sort of sort of that sort of real estate
on the show to just talk about it. Did you
just you know this person, you know, whether it's I
was thinking, like, are you using this as a stepway
to get like Lewis is just going to become like
a spokesperson for that network in jen role not just deception.
So at least Lewis has something else going on then

(01:33:04):
just that has just been fired by Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
To me, it's we always thought this. I feel like
it's still a variation of the same fight. So I'm
kind of over that part now at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
So bringing her back on for a minute to have
her you have great chemistry and you guys like good
with mother and daughter, like it doesn't it doesn't know,
we know they are great together. I don't even I
almost like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Frank that now it's like you bring her back on
it would be to try to fix what's going on,
but you have you have to let her off the
cameras for a while so that Brooklyn can settle into
whatever whatever is going on with her in GEO, and
then if they get better, then maybe Lewis comes back in.

(01:33:59):
I just feel like it's just it's too soon. Give
Loss off the Cavras for a while, that Brooklyn handle
all this stuff is going on, and then maybe it's
a working towards eventually getting back to somewhere. I think,
to be honest, I saw you. I thought it was
another retread of some sort of just another I'm fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I mean, we get it. She ignored it a whole time,
so I got like, Okay, I'm like, I don't care.
I think here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
I mean, it's like I enjoyed Lois, but the show
really has not put any effort into giving her anything
to do other than this this particular storyline. If Lois
had other connections to other people, other stuff, that would
be a reason to keep her around where she doesn't
necessarily need to be, it seems with Brooklyd. But she's
got other stuff going on all for it, but we don't.

(01:34:50):
She's a very insular of this show. Let's go around,
so you know, you're right, they may as well just
rest her for a while, right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
We have no ned so you know, but they barely
show him, yeah, bother. I just think it's I don't know,
I just feel like then we already know she's mad
at her mother.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
We got it. I don't even know that. Over and
over again. We got it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
So now let's really figure out what's next for them.
But I think it's I think it's all predicated on
her and Geo before I got even do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Because it's tough, because I feel like some characters get
that sort of runway to still, you know, be involved
on the show, even in the midst of a kind
of life falling apart. I'm thinking specifically, if Nina, you know,
all the fillo off from Mixon Falls, she should have
been persondaed in a grata for the longest time. It
should have just left town for a while, but she didn't.

(01:35:48):
She was there the whole time. Uh, And so she'd
have sub seeds where she'd be getting that thrown in
her face, and then in other scenes where she would
be with people that were sympathetic to Toda, whether it's
Maxie or it's o Bract or somebody else that you
can have other seeds with. But like with Lois, you know,

(01:36:08):
that character does not have that. She ends up doing
it with this this uh, this chippy from the Shopping
Network because there's really nobody else to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
To Yeah, because there's there has been any kind of
movement towards her trying to be friends again. There's no movement.
Everybody's mad.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Yeah, half the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Folks are on the canvas right now. So like it
just is like I don't I mean, I know sometimes,
I know sometimes they need paychecks to pay for their
SAG memberships and like you know or whatever. But for
storyline reason, let's like really bring them on. They're reoccurring.
Its being on for good reason. Yeah, makes sense. It's
not redundant. I don't need so I don't need the

(01:36:50):
same the same same thing, your variation all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I don't need it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Yeah, And it's STUF balancing the you know, as we've
always said, like the real world versus soap world in
terms of emotional reactions and how long you want to
see it. I'm sure Geo's gonna take it, gonna need
a while to kind of process this, yes, But as
a sofie, it's like, Okay, how I don't need to
see this for another six months, Let's just move on

(01:37:17):
to the next beat. Even though in real life, yes,
that not an easy thing to overcome, and there there's
a lot of messiness evolved, but support, like especially with
their cast this big. No, I don't need the luxure.
We don't have the luxury of like drawing this out
forever because we don't see it that often. So like,
let's just moving on to the next beat.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
I agree, I do agree. Thanks, Jamee, I agree, I
do it. It is yeah, okay, kids, we want to
thank you. We want to thank Roy Gibson'll be on
a show. If he came on late, go to the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
It's different the very beginning, and he spent he spent
about forty minutes with us, so check that out. It
was because I want to thank him again for his time.
He just got back from Italy, so like, who, so
I'm very happy he got back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
He really does know, James. I was surprised, guys, but
I have more coming.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I hope it's the beginning of more guests coming on
the show because I just I'm tired of this not
having guests in our show. So I'm working it out.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Yeah, to see some good stuff about us.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Rory, he will, I'm gonna trying to see you. I'm
waiting for her because I kind of know Kelly's I'm
waiting for her to come on for like to really
come on if I ask her, Oh, I want to
come on a show. So I just waited to wait
for waiting for her scenes to like really air. It's
a it's all about timing, folks. People on the show

(01:38:51):
is always about timing. We alway should have can talk
about stuff because like this he's aired for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
People on it, like I just started. I can't tell
you anything that it's not any fun. We gonnake sure,
we gona make sure they come on for a while.
You can actually talk about scenes and story. So that's
kind of what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
We are.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
We are chopped liver. Nobody cares about Brooklyn and gl
That's pretty funny, I know. But yes, I thank you
guys for a great interview for us. Yes, frank as
great question.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
It was great. We'll here next week.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
We will be if I feel like it, Okaddy, we'll
be here. We'll be here next week. Another soap block.
Go check out different days.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
We want to you. At three o'clock, they have a guest. Again,
I can't tell you who it was, but I have
a guest. Who it is, Who it was? Who it is?
It's a guest, very nice person. It's ever do for.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Two more seasons? James start watching.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Oh, it's been for two more season. I now it
is review for two more seasons. I tried to watch,
I couldn't but anyway, we'll talk to you guys next time. Bye,