Week Ending 9-19-25..Monica..

JAMES Frank and Araceli ( from @dishindays)talk about the ABC SOAP!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, hello and welcome to another edition of James
Wan Spotlight. I'm James. I am uh and of course
I'm with my man. Next next year, next year, next weekend,
it'll be it'll be ten years. Will be celebrating, so
get ready for that celebration. But he is my longest

(00:22):
healthiest male relationship to date.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Frank Miran oh Man glad to get the healthiest tag.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
We'd be great, but we're pretty healthy.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm most illusional relationship. I'm fine.
So he's here, and of course we have a crossover event.
You guys are excited when I announced it. It's so funny.
She's from today the show that's on. Why's I trying
to call me right now? It's on after show on

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audition days their channel. All right, Sally, ablest.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You, hella, thank you for having me. My fans get
a double dose of me today.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We do show, folks, still the show.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
We'll be done, Yeah, yeah, yeah show.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I asked to join us because I loved her opinions
on our roundtable. That roundtable is one of the highest
ones we did, so I said, let's bring her on.
Let's bring on to the show and do a whole
little thing here and what a week it was. But
before we get started, it's my church announcements. Come on, everybody,
come on in the water is fine? Sadly, first of all,

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you have to you have to mention this because he
was a friend t edition days, a friend to many
of us. Oh my god, there's the tragic death of
celebrity photographer brad Eedvard Young. I just spoke to him
like a month ago. It's just kind of crazy, forty
six years old in a car crash on the one
thirty four freeway. I think all of us have been
on at some time. Yeah, you know, I don't make

(02:01):
sure you have a freeway. I better you all been
on a freeway and he didn't make it, so I know.
For you Spriena fans out there, you guys are posting
the famous pictures of Tabiyana and Nicholas Chavez, it's a
sad it's a sad loss. Any thoughts at all before
you continue with that, anybody want to say a few
words or anything?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, for it's hard to describe the impact of
behind the scenes people for those that don't know, you know,
how things work over on this side of town. But
it's you know, when you know, I think the wildfires
kind of showed us that, you know, we all kind

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of even if you don't know someone, you know someone
who knows that person kind of a thing. And when
we say that everybody in the saw community, Brad Evergon
was kind of like very exclusive to the sub community.
He covered a lot, but you know, he he made
very good friends with everybody. That's why, you know, you'll
see all all of the soap stars came out of
the woodwork. They were they were just in shock because

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this guy was kind of behind the scenes staple. He
was on every carpet. You know, we got to know
him at Day of Days at the Emmys, you know,
he was there and he did all of their you know,
behind the scenes stuff, so like you said, the famous
portraits of Tabiana and Nicholas Chavez and then you know

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all of the you know, he had very good friends
over on days. We're going to talk a little bit
about you know, his impact there later if you want
to check that out. But yeah, that was that was shocking.
That was really that hit us hard.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Frank a few words or anything, Uh, yeah, no, I
mean I think Orseli said it said it best to
just you know, there's uh yeah, there's people behind the
scenes too. It's you know, it's not just the people
that are in front of the camera, but the people
behind that make huge contributions to this industry.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, they got to get pictures some body, so yes
he was the pictures and head. He had a charity,
had and everything. But you can you can go to
his his pages are still up, so you want to
go see what he was about. So we have some
great articles have been written. Michael Fairman, my friend Buzzworthy,
Sour News have written some stuff about him, so you
want to know them more about him. You can check

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him out there. I see the chat. Yeah, we were
all we were all shocked, and he was toy shocked.
On the flip side of that, we had a couple
of birthdays. Today is brad Fred Anderson's birthday, who plays Spinelli.
I met him once and at a wine store in
the in Hollywood and vine. We're both trying to find
this one particular wine. Actually it was very nice, like

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where's the wine? Also for jail j Media, here's a
man the Russ's birthday, so she made it today. Good bye,
are you saying to her earlier on the shows, so
that's her birthday, they too, so I want to give
your shout to her. I want to say that we
did the Beyond the Gates after show. That's out out there.

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That was Amanda and Candace, Candy Pooh, that's out there.
And then why are we broke it down? Me? Candace,
Timmy Dot Govea and Amanda rest We talked that, so
that's out there audio and video. And of course the Cuckoo, Crazy,
Bold and Beautiful. Oh yeah, we talk about that. Also

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the Three Girls myself that's out and how too strong
language has been said on both of those shows.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Uh, that's why I'm not on those shows.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, exactly exactly. We said some strong language about some
objections we had on these shows. You'll just people just
people just just don't turn gay the number one. And secondly,
men do get sexually assaulted. So so two things on
that show were like they're like, just what are you
doing over there? So that but those are all out

(05:54):
for your pleasure. I also want to say, here's a
bonus episode out audio only for Beyond the Gates where
I talk about the themes because I know the person
who actually created it, so check that out if you
know all her stuff. And it's the return of only
Murders in the Building. I have the app shows back
season five. The show has not slowed down. The show
is so good. It's out now audio Audit added the

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audio component, so the audio episodes are on audio and
on video. Tuesdays are new episodes of that show on Hulu.
But the show is so good. Diane Weist, Bobby kind
of Volley new people in this season. It's just a
bunch of plethora of new folks. It's just it's yeah, yes,
Andy's stronger than cheese and crackers and say seth stronger

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than that and kiss my grits. Also this week on Wednesday,
it's Me and Billy flynnon Are Reunited after all these
years talking about Alan Aristotle or Alexander Wedder's name is
that show? Kane asked me. He talks about being different
than Daniel Goddard. He talks about having his replacement on days,

(07:04):
dyeing in his arms on why and are Connor Floyd
and he teases Jess Walton and him coming up. So
I've known him ten years. He's great. We had a
great time. He has those piercing blue eyes. It's just
crazy talk. So it's good. It's good out on Wednesday.
Why not read Spotlight? So I'm working, I'm talking to

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you guys, all these people.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
How did Mark J. Freeman take it that you're now
Billy finn face?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I texted him, but I texted him. It's like we
touch about Mark J. Freeman, MARJ Free and Flynn. They're
really good friends. Uh, and so we would laugh about that.
Go you know much? You know he because yes, Mark's
he texted me the other dance, I know he does.
So we love March. So yeah, this is still close.
And also I've almost forgot laugh not least it's color

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or not his birthday So a former I mean doing
our ten years a former host co hostman her birthday.
So and she has a special announcement to go to
her pages. She has a special announcement at the Kirry Critic.
There you go every I think it's everything, of course,
because already said earlier. I usually say this now, but

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some days is after us of course, and Tony say
how old I am? So we're good. I always coming
on this show. But what he's gonna say that show?
So decist have to worry about the thing today. So folks,
I want, we're gonna we're gonna get to the Monica stuff.
I we get to that last kind of that's a

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good stuff. So I'm very curious to hear what r
Sally and Frank thing about these two things. So there
is one family. I had it out this week Mother's Daughtersday.
There's one mother and daughter the next day. Finally, oh

(08:56):
my god, I think I cheered. So I will start
with the one. It's kind of sad because it's like, oh, well,
we had Kathy Gotti on last month and she said
some good stuff was coming up. Liesel and BRIT's homecoming
didn't really work out, So well, what do you guys think?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's difficult to watch it was?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, I mean, I guess it. I suppose it should
not be so surprising because I feel like Liesel has
a certain I don't want to say like code of sorts,
but just in terms of like Scotty helping Elizabeth when
all that went down, that kind of just went against
Liesel and she just would have nothing to do with

(09:41):
Scottie afterwards. So I mean, I guess we've all been
there right where, you know, I loved one to fake
their death and then come back several years later, you know,
and we can all related it several times. Yes, you know,
how dare you? How dare you not be dead? And

(10:03):
in the past couple of years.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right, I got were you thinking?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean, I definitely thought it was very harsh. It
was it was I think it was it was too much,
and I I think Liesel is going to have a
lot of regrets about that, especially in light of the
fact that she has no idea that yet not one,
but both of our children are actually alive. Because I

(10:30):
believe it was confirmed. I believe Rian probably did confirm
that he is coming back as Nathan, not some you know,
other person. But what that will look like, you know,
what Britt does or doesn't know, what Liesel definitely knows.
It's you know, I think Leel's gonna definitely have regrets.

(10:54):
But there's all there's just there's just so much we
don't know yet. And that's what I'm getting hung up on,
because it's like I can't necessarily judge anybody but Liesel's reaction. Yeah,
because there's so much that we don't know, Like I
don't even know what to do about Britt right now,
because I feel like she's she came in super defensive

(11:15):
and super presumptuous, and I'm like, yes, that's Britt, But
also I feel like there's a lot more there.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
The chat greased to say it was a sad homecoming.
Liesel and Brit are a lot alike. Oh yeah, East
count says Lie has everybody to be furious for Britt. Well,
Britt's I'm telling you, I'm telling you anything. Yeah, I mean,
she's like, well, just tell us, like what we're planingly
tell us going on, and she's not saying anything.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I mean, I know, I know, I know. It's because
the producer said, don't say anything, you know what I mean.
It's like she's she's with the chief coaches of staff.
She didn't say much either, like my employer said, you know,
I mean, so it's kind of like, well, we're gonna
say anything. People are going mad at you, Yeah, be mad.

(12:06):
I'm going mad. But I didn't like the fact that
Britt turned it around like I'm just like you, I
learned from you, Like that's all commercials value of Dad.
I learned from you that. I was kind of like, mom,
you're a maybe I'm a monster. You mad, Like, no,
you aren't, bitch, You're not like that. Man.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Come on, girl, I'm hoping that it's all a part
of a defense mechanism in order to like she's leaning,
like she's leaning more into her her pettiest side, into
her worst impulses, in order to hide what's really been
happening behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I feel like for everybody that Britt left behind, they
had an opportunity to grow, grieve, change, and so for
those past couple of years, I mean they've kind of
a you know, grown into different people. And yet brit
while still missing those people, it's still just kind of bread.
And now it's coming back into a place where maybe

(13:06):
ways she expected people might react or would be accepting
of her behavior. Uh, earned so much.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
M Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I mean Britt is bread
Liesel's liesel on some level. Yeah, but it was kind
of nice to Nina in a whole different way, Like
it had nothing to do with anybody else. This is
her family. It's like her family's come back, and like
with Friday's cliffhanger of the face of Ryan Pavey, it's like,

(13:37):
I know, I don't mean that Fast. I knew it
was coming back. I saw that one preview with him
and Pianola Hughes against see that there's cutesy or whatever.
But I was like, Oh, what's happening Fast Like yeah,
So now I'm wondering. I have more questions than answers.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm like, yeah, a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Where's Maxie Heresin's in Tennessee? Did a film already likes going?
I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I was under the impression that she's not supposed to
come back until.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Next year or the same thing I'm saying, right.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, So it's it's I don't know, there's a lot,
there's so there's so much there that we don't know
that it's hard to make an assumption.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Interesting that they brought him in as well too, just
in a car crash here he is, so who knows.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Gh does love to do amnesia storylines, so that could
also as he's trying to figure out or either figure
out who he is or remember who he is, they
can pull that to kind of draw it out until
until max It does come back.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's true. I think about that. I think about that
part basically. So Rip's back, mm hmm. Should I get integrated.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
These was passed. Of course max is gone. You have
Lulu and Brooklyn guinea along and helping with the kids.
M that's very interesting to find a common ground. They
actually got a lot without Maxie being there. They had
some nice scenes together.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
That was very interesting. I thought, Okay, so now they
kind of I'm kind of glad that they're in. I
don't I don't want to see them fighting. I'm kind
of God, I'm kind I'm so glad they're kind of ending. Now,
how you guys, how do you guys see about that?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Uh? Or so I have to I've met that. I'm
not enjoying Lulu as much as I want to.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know me, neither I was. I was. I'm firmly
on team Brooklyn on all of that because I felt like,
you know, there's intention. You always have to take an
intention with all of your actions, and you know, I
felt like Brooklyn's actions were unintended, while Lulu was just

(16:03):
like full steam ahead, not listening to anybody. And it's
only this week for the first time that I really
feel like Lulu is actually listening to people and and
dialing back and saying, well, my kids are going to

(16:25):
have to find things out, and the best thing I
can do is hold their hand through it.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Finally, I know, I agree. I like the scenes or
herding kids. Actually it's soft me tour a little bit.
I was like, ok again, I have not been I
have not been enjoying her either her turn either. Okay,
so not in Finally, TONI down. You know, we also
have to cross town Geo and and Dante. So I

(16:57):
was like, Okay, they're starting to come from this. Can't
go on forever, right, go on now? And and like
John sum said, Maxie Lu became friends after hating hate
for each other. They did, so I kind of I
kind of like that, so like we can because I
think them just fighting back and forth it's ben get
boring after a while.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if Lulu. I don't
think Lulu and Brooklyn will ever be friends because there's
always going to be that petty jealousy that Lulu has
that Brooklyn had Dante's child and and they had a
past that she never knew about. But I think that,
you know, for the sake of you know, being grown ups,
it'll temper down.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, It'll be like Carly Elizabeth. They're like, no, we
love the same people. Our kids are related, like they
they're they're fine, Like they get along fine. At this
point they're not like anymore or.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's like a few decades.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
But yeah, well the same in Brooklyn. Think about same thing,
Lulu and Brooklyn for few decades. Yeah, I mean there's
been different actors and stuff, like just think about that way,
the same thing. They hating each other, but Tracy loves
them both. This so there's I mean, there's so I
think that there's You're right, it made be best friends,
but they could be frenemies. I mean it's kind of
like you know, like like Tracy Amonica exactly.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, this is kind of what we expect, like
you don't have to ever be friends, but after a
few decades, you could, you know, you can learn to
coexist kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah. I hated Frank the first ten years through the show.
That's even if I was on the show. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Just how Elaine Dante was during during that.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Was like come on, like hello, we're like what what
it was kind of that actually maybe like Christina in
that moment you for a second, I was like that
was kind of funny. That was kind of fun. Yeah,
it's like he's like, well, loosen up, Like he's like, oh, well,
talk about sports, talk about like it was like it
was kind of like because you know to do It's
like I think I feel I like Dante, so I
like you to do It was a little stiff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, he's he's paralyzed. He doesn't know what to do
at all.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's kind of it's really funny. I was chuckling. I
thought that was kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
But yeah, it's like he's like, so I'm like that
there's softening it five because we need Frank on the
show hate pacing. We hate bad pacing or anything else.
So we're like, just okay, you can do it for
a while, then get to it. That's how we want
to that's how I don't don't know how you are
on your show on our So we're like, okay, this
is enough of that.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, like the thing is that with the whole pacing thing,
people equate it to okay, you have to go from
A to B, and it's like I don't I don't
need like heavy handed action to be taken, but conversations
need to be had to make things move forward.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
We always say that sometimes like just one thirty second
scene or one you know, or two will meet for
one or letting the audience know something, so just let
us know something so then we can't okay, which is
what yinra is doing. That's no story, I digress, but okay,
So all that's happening was that. But then the next

(20:09):
day I stood up, I cheered. I was like, because
Frank and I we always wanted this. How they do
this Sometimes I'm scared to gonna make her go backwards.
Hope they don't, but I will enjoy that moment for
that episode, for what it was. Nina went off on

(20:30):
Willow and told her about herself, Well, you could have
a basil full of hands and you would still say
I laughed so long. She said that that he was
a good man, I mean, and she got her face,
the direction, the lighting when at one part she goes
like mother like daughter, side by side, whoo, and Willa

(20:52):
was like, I have nothing like you like I was like,
I was just it was just it was so good.
She finally was like, you wouldn't say it. I try
to tell you, you wouldn't listen to anybody like yeah, freaking
out screaming TV every week talking about that. But Nina
finally says, she finally grew some balls and she said it,
and I was like, finally fine, So you guys, you guys,

(21:13):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, Like she just Willow is completely off the rails
and you know, any any kind of help at this point,
I'm sorry, is a hindred. She needs to fall, She
needs to fall all the way down, and people need
to let her.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
They do, they do, and she claims she knows. I mean,
I do believe she doesn't love you anymore. I do
believe that. Actually, Yeah, the way she's playing is like,
he's disgusting. I love it. But Nina had to tell her,
you gotta stop it. You willingly fell in love with him,
You willingly kept going with him. Everybody it's you, girl.

(21:51):
You No one shoved his whatever in your whatever. Nobody
did that. You did that. It's like, and if I
told you whatever, you may difference. Like at that point,
she was so she was so in and I just
love that neither broke it down to her.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I feel like it's tough to see because I will
enjoyed the outcome of her manipulating Daisy and what they did,
Sasha and Michael. So she when she found on Sasha
left town, she she was happy about that. And she
still has not dealt with any of that kind of knows,
but I not be able to prove it. So, I mean,
Willow is just kind of deluding herself to think that

(22:31):
she's like all together. And even the stuff I drew aside,
the stuff that she decided to do on her own
with Daisy like that, there's been no processing of any
of that.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, and now she's using and she and now she's
using Scout.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, Like I mean, I'm so for the sake of Monica,
I'm so glad that that moment happened. But at the
same but at the same time, it's like, you know,
stop making this everyone else's fault. You are now the manipulator.
Stop thinking that you're helpless. You're not helpless, you're not blameless,
You're not a victim.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh, Tracy and Michael let her know that. Yeah, they
sure to come in here, bitch, say come here, girl
in the other room, and they closed that door and
they let her know what she's not gonna do. They
told her, didn't they what not? What's not going to happen. Okay,
I just did it for because Scott wanted to see
her grandmother. I mean, like mm hmm. Tracy was not

(23:29):
buying it, Michael wasn't buying it. We weren't buying it.
I was buying it. Frank's trying to sell it. He did.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I didn't realize it would also be Wiley's first day
of school. Who would have thought that would have been
the case.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I just but I will say I am actually
I'll give k mcwelling credit. She is playing the role
very well. Oh yeah, I had frankness. I've never had
to use Willow ever from the very beginning to use
for her. I'm kind of liking this Willow right now.
I'm kind of liking this right now. This is good.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. And the thing is that there's there's two kinds
of villains. There's a villain you love to hate, and
then then there's the villain that is so disgusting and
so far over the line that you need them to
go away. And that's the distinction between Drew and Willow
right now, where it's like, Willow is the villain I
love to hate right now, just because her interactions and
her you know, she's so on you know, Katie is

(24:29):
so on point with her acting. Drew, I'm like, I can't,
I can't even I can't even watch his scenes. It's
it's so I have to. I really have to muscle through.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So you didn't like when Drew basically told Danny to
go screw himself was rough.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I was like, d I mean, that's the that's the
point where we throw out the chunk la and just
use our bare hands. Because I'm like, I'm and it true.
And people really don't really understand the level of restraint
and composure that Jason has for the for the way

(25:11):
that Drew has treated his son. I know, like anybody,
anybody else I know would have put there, put a
hands on him.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
See now Monica is gone. He did it because of
Monica on some level. Monica gone. Now that made change, Okay,
But what he talked, I was like, poor dah. He
he was just like, yeah, we're gonna shut this down.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
But I but on the flip side, I'm so proud
of Danny.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yes, he has grown because of the parents he has
and because of the extended family that he has. He
has just he's growing into such an exceptional young man.
And I really I feel that way pretty much about
all of the youngsters on the show right now, where

(26:01):
I think that they're just they're growing up so beautifully
and I love that we get to see that.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I agree. Hello to one hundred people watching us, Thank
you today for joining you. Thank you. I love it.
On our the eve of fall tomorrow, it's fall, noy,
no no break?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Can we can we stick with today? It's the twenty.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Firsttember, November, the twenty first September. Yes, Earthen and Fire
the first concert I ever saw and I was seven
years old, nineteen seventy six, Earth and Fire. They played
at a local park here and I remember all these
Afros Egyptian arts. Remember my first continent ever folks the Fire.

(26:47):
But yeah, so, I mean the kids are juke back
with you. All the kids are pretty good. They have
a good crop of kids right now, I will say,
And you know what, all of them are kind of
millowing out for me because for a while Emma was
looked much for me. But I like her and I'm
liking her and g ono side note, I like the
little chaste kind of slow romance. I like it. I'm

(27:08):
with it.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
What I'm not like, you can just we can just
have a hot back, just be just an off camera
dog from now on, just be an off camera all animals.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Apparently it was like horses, dogs. Man, he's a cute dog.
I love him her. Yeah, I like that. But it
also brought Molly and Cody together. Frank, great, great, No, I.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Mean that, which is fine. It's just man, like, those
scenes are that with the dog, and just it's just
so convoluted and contrived, and it's just like, just we
all know the dog exists now, and now they can
just be like any young baby on the show, just
somebody that exists off camera.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Frank, first fight, I would just think, I'm just spooky. Though,
I felt like, actually the dog was a good prop
for a bunch of stories. They actually helped a bunch
of stories with Blue Tongs your kids, which led onto
each of their their whole conglate convoluted family stuff, you know,
with the with the Geo and Emma gay coaches that

(28:14):
kissed the I eventually had, and Molly going back in
Cody's orbit. That was I thought to me. And actually
the dog facilitated several storylines.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Out Back was a very useful vehicle this week.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yes, it was useful this week.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Frank, Let's never see him aga, let's upset him out
on a high note. That's it. It's not going to
get any better than this.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Then the fact I adore you and I hope you
are the ring bear at one of somebody's Oh my.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
God, that would be all. I'd love it. I would
love it. I love it. I love it. But yeah,
now I love it.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
It's like just like the quartermain dog whatever your name was,
like we it's always off camera. I always want the
kids always wanted to play with the dog that it
was always off Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Back in the day we had the first and Foster.
We had them back with Foster Why and Lucky? We
had Emily, that was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, and hey goes there you go. They're they're playing
into history. Dogs have long been used on General Hospital
to facilitate a lot of these young friendships and young relationships.
You had, you know, Emily and Lucky and Foster back
in the day, and in Lucky and it was his

(29:35):
cousin's name, why Why and Annabelle, you know, they had
the dogs very much brought the young crowd together, so
it's very it's very much in line with history.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
The chat's like, oh my god, friend, it's just a dog.
They're laughing as the dead inside man. He's dead inside.
Oh if someone says, I wondered originally belongs to Dawson.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Done done? Who cares?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
God, Frank, don't care, folks, He's dead, he's dead inside.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Just give me worm farms. Worm farms are great, those
are you know? Why isn't anybody picking a vet legacy
from the show and just starting a worm farm business.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
If they start a worm farm business or a pickle
lila business, I will kill myself. I don't want to.
I want to, I don't pick I don't want to.
Who knows. Even in shot Cans there was a rough storyline. Okay,
so but yeah, so anyway, so back to their back
and everything. They all but but then we got some
movement in those in those areas. But as it was left,

(30:46):
Willows out there floundering. Your boys are still in bed,
visitors coming. Meanwhile, the A d A which Anna called
in and it went over, went over the various stuff
and everything. The ad remember the Ada remembers she heard
Drew being bad.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I was so happy with those scenes because I don't
necessarily need Sonny to rinse repeat the same storyline where
he seduces the Ada and and you know then the
Ada goes away necessarily because I actually like this actress
and so I don't necessarily need it to go on

(31:26):
that route. But she needed to have her eyes opened.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, and in fact she nest now she knows she
was going to see him. That another layer. She's like, okay,
she told him what she had, but he was like shocked,
like what Like I was like, uh, I loved it. Finally,
Drew it takes to your own medicine because she is mine.
Was racing like she talking about like what how what? What? How?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
What?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah? Rick Frank's favorite came on, say the day while
hitting on Carly, Uh, because I.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Ruth is that it's so often Sonny is just painted as, uh,
you know, the one bad guy on the show. We
all got to take that on Sonny. But it is
nice that they've recalibrated this ta from being so like
Sonny focused to now seeing, hey, there are other bad
people in Port Charles that are equality is deserving as

(32:20):
being prosecuted as much as as much as Sunny.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well we don't need her to necessarily
stop going after Sonny, but please just have equal footing.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I agree. I like that.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
And it seems like tensions have eased between her and
Anna based on this is what Canna giving her this
information so great because.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
She's finally listening to Anna and saying, you know, if
we get actual evidence that we can prosecute, I will
hand it to you on a silver platter. But until
that time, I can't make something up right, But then
you can.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You can. Then he got and I was like, are
you talking to you, Detective Chase? Oh, what's going on you?
Basically I was like, day so yeah, Tective Chase. He
is like, he is gunning for Drew. It's a little rough,
He's gut. He is gunning for Drew, and she sees it.

(33:19):
So he's gonna get taken off the case. You think
at some point is it just too close? Town? I
I I hm.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I I like that he is. I like that he's
attacking Drew because any negativity towards Drew I welcome. However,
I want him to be very careful about seeing Drew
as the enemy and Willow as the good person, because
Willow is we said it she's not the victim here anymore.

(33:52):
And you know, she's proven that Drew can do say whatever,
and she will not necessarily love him, but she will
go back to him every time because she's run out
of people to manipulate. And if Chase is not careful,
he's going to be one of those people.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
No, that makes sense. And uh, you know, like Chase,
you know, for as much as their relationship with willis
kind of up and down, he does have a soft
spot for her, So it pretty much could be end
up being the blind spot. But I'm glad that he's not.
At least they're playing it right now with Brooklyn. I mean,
he's being upfront about her with everything. It's not like
he's keeping anything from Brooklyn, his wife. We start seeing

(34:33):
scenes where he starts keeping information from Brooklyn regarding world,
then I'll start questioning what's going on with Chase.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's true, He's not he's not. He's not there yet,
He's not He's not any of that.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
You're right, yeah, And that's what I love the Chase
in Brooklyn relationship so much, because they have such a
healthy relationship that he's they're very upfront with like what
they can and cannot tell each other, but they at
least they say, I can't tell you this, but can
I share my feelings about this? Can I share my concerns?
And that's that's what makes a healthy relationship.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, to me and Frank have.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
What I do like about this piece of forged information though,
it's just causing people to react in certain ways that
you know, if that information was there, they may not have,
which is great. It's just causing people to do things
that well. I think we'll come back to bite certain
bits of the story later on.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, I know, folks, I said that doctor Juwice cases
being but I know there's that too, and and the
question and also so this is I mean, this is
obviously a soap opera. Don ontly have a few people
like a show on. I mean, it's it's I mean,
everybody relates to everybody, so you really can't avoid it
on some level. I mean, I said, you are two
best protect detectives. I mean, it's kind of like they're

(35:51):
all you know, we have to kind of overlook that
part because Dante, when they keep asking him do you
think Michael did it? He doesn't say it isn't the
only thing he didn't do it and say that. He
never says it. He never says I don't think he
did it, but he just says I, you know, he
doesn't say anything. So I don't know it's gonna it's
gonna be. It's a trip. We have to mention. We're

(36:11):
get to Monica stuff last, and that's all. That's a
sad stuff. The rest of the week was all that.
But we mentioned Carly. Carly and a towel harmer gets
locked out. She's just so put out. I mean, it's like,
I know, I I know what they're trying to do.

(36:34):
I think when they're trying to make a little comedic,
comedic stuff. I think they're trying with Bripps, but it's
coming across just harsh and it's ungrateful and too much.
But I said, they trying to try to make a
comedic's not working. They're trying. So when she gets locked out,
comes downstairs and and then it's just it's just tension

(36:57):
between two of them. You know, it's like, Okay, well
I did save your daughter. It's it's like why I
enjoyed it when I thought it was tew years or
Swan song or whatever. I mean, it's there. They're trying
to coll me out of it. To me, it fell flat. Yeah,
because they're.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Leaning brit too far. They're leaning Brit too far over
back into her petty side, and that's causing uh, Carly
to lean back into her petty side. When it's like
that's it's it's not it's not necessarily good for either
one of them. Yeah, because then it just harkens back

(37:35):
to when Jason dropped Britt for Carly, and nobody enjoyed that.
I'm just gonna go on record and say, nobody enjoyed that.
Even if Britt was not in the picture. Nobody needed
Jason and Carly.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
James did. James huge, huge fan.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Which he's obviously his teeth. Here's the deal, because I
was always a gift, you knows. I was very gusted.
I know that the larger picture, Carly and Jason are endgame.
They are fry. I tell you that they are the
back to actors have said it, Frank, so they won't
said it. But it's better to have them not together.

(38:15):
That's kind of point. They go to their people. But Sally, hello,
even in the lab, you're right back agains. They were
daughter and ran out.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Here's here's my argument. Here's my argument, and this is
this is, this is going into my personal beliefs. I
believe that your soulmate and the love of your life,
who do not necessarily have to be the same person.
And I think that because I've met my soulmate, my

(38:48):
best friend in life, I have not met yet met
the love of my life. Got it, Yes, to two
separate people, and I think that that's Jason and Carly.
Jason and Carly aremates forever and always they will like
they like, they can read each other's minds. They you
know what, they know each other's instincts, so well, that's

(39:08):
their territory. I don't necessarily need them to be lovers
or the love of each other's lives. And I don't
think that uned you can have one love of your life.
That's that's a key point here is that you don't
necessarily have one love of your life, because I really
know you can have many loves in your life, but

(39:30):
your soulmates. That's your writer or Dee.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
My soulmates is flow and love my life is frank.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I'm just one of the one to be thrown
around and tossed aside. My time will come. But feel
I gotta say I don't actually know. And also I
agree with you. I agree with you. I mean I
fear people. You can you can be super. Your twin
flames soul make sense. So I do believe that they
can be set real different in I can't be. I

(40:01):
think me and people in a chat with you, they're like,
you can have multiple loves, and I think it's really easy.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
We're all energy. We're all energy, we're all presence, We're
all I don't people at home. I'm sure you have
people here. You meet somebody instantly you're like, oh my god,
I just love them instantly, like you don't even know them.
You're just like, oh my goodness. Where it's I mean,
e whether it's in a friendship, I mean like just
you meet somebody, go oh my god, it's some dynamic.
I just really like, oh my god. You get along
grade and some people you meet and they're like, You're like,

(40:29):
get away from me. You don't even know you yet,
but I have a bad feeling about you. Or I'm
just like we're just like oil and water. Like you,
I think it's all energy. Think we all roll up
together somehow, and you pick people who pick where you know,
and that's that's kind of how it is. I think energy, pheromones,
all that, you know, all that stuff, But I agree
with you and the chats that gree with you too.

(40:50):
Maybe we've done that one so but I just think
that Jason and Carly will always, always and forever. Like
Jason sunny like he said, but he told h Tracy,
he almost bread. He gave me money I didn't know
who I was, and helped me come back to life
when he was a new Jason. So it's kind of
like he also get me that that's the three Musketeers. Basically,

(41:12):
those three they've been through so much. If they did
half the town and that Someding got and suddenly got
twenty kids and like fighting her women, she's and crackers,
you know. So I think it's just it's it's very much.
It's but having them together with make it boring. In
my opinion, they had to have to be separate. They

(41:34):
have to be other people and have those people be
jealous of the you know, you know what I mean.
That's more.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So I mean this play right now is probably my
favorite iteration of that dynamic is because I feel like
they especially with Jason, he's got so many other things
going on the quarter of themain side as well. Yeah,
it's it's much more interesting to me that they're not
always all involved in each other's lives and and every story,
that there's times where they can and be involved in
other stuff and then come back together for Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, it's the kind of friendship that you want them
to have, where like they're just so dynamic and they
know each other so well. They don't need to be
in every scene together. They don't need to see each
other every day because they know what's going on in
each other's lives and they don't need to ask necessarily.
They just like have an instinct back, you know, behind

(42:24):
the scenes of like Okay, you're gonna go do this,
I'm gonna go do that.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Well, it's funny when when just goes once you're mad
at me, of course I'm magic yesterday, but you know
I love you and they I mean like it's kind
of like yeah, you know people, you know you're like, yeah,
I was magic, yes say she didn't say what's going on?
But yeah, you know you know. Now the point like
like Frankie, you guys are saying so at the point
now that they're matured on some level that it's a
little different. Now it's like they're gonna get mad at

(42:48):
each other. And but you know, I love you. I
love you. Okay, there you go. I mean the way
he handles her sometimes it's like she's like, yeah, I know,
you're right. He's like, Okay, you're right. You know. It's
like it's it's it's it's refresh. It's like someone have
long time friendships. We know that people. We just know
that her there's there's a certain personality. It's like, oh,
I'm like, they're not going nowhere, but they're in your life.

(43:09):
But it's just kind of like they can handle each other.
Because she did feel left out with them what was
going on? But she and when she said that, oh
my god, of course she said a statement that's gonna
come back to bite her. If you know anything about
my children, you have to tell me. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
See, like like he didn't need to tell her anything
about the British. I know Ale, I know, my god,
that he's gonna be in so much.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
She's done with Jack telling off, whoa, She's gonna march
on over to Jason.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah what for?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
And she finds these Joscelyn. If josce one telling her,
Connie's gonna be pissed.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, it's always funny like this lends you so often
in so like it's not my secret to tell, right,
so and Jocelyn says it this week too, where it's like,
you know, Jason's I gonna stand anything to Carly my
mom because it's it's my.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, so uh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I you know how how much of that will be
a get out of jail sort of free card for
Jason where just like I need hear from your own daughter,
not from me.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I mean, it's Jason and Carly, so they'll recover eventually,
but oh man, she's just gonna be so so so pissed.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Here's here's here's a bigger question. Did we need those
scenes in Australia with the two yesterday?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
We needed more days.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Of them?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Just who's the better surfer? Let's discuss surfing locations. It's great.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I just I obviously Franks was smoking again. I don't
went on out of his mouth. I'm just like it
made no sense. You guys are are you're in trouble.
I'm gonna give you extra day twenty four hours, so,
you know, screw each other's brains out.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
But then that's it, That's right, get it.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I mean like it was the weirdest, the weirdest, like okay,
and then he leaves, she stays a weak Yeah, I just.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah. The only the only thing I could come up
with was that Jack felt guilty because it was his
screw up that got them almost killed in the first place,
by not realizing that he had a double agent. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Does anybody care enough about Jaceline and Vaughan? No, And
that's gonna be happening when she gets back to poor
Charles and they run in.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I don't hate Vaughan as a character. I'm I I
you know, the more the more he interact with people,
I do like him. But stop trying to recreate the
chemistry that Joss had with Dex. It's not working.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And there's just not enough with Vaughan with other than
like Emma, you know, yeah, with anybody else.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah. Yeah, Like when Dex was on the show, you
had he had he already had like that built in
dynamic with Sonny and Michael. There was a lot of intrigue.
There was a lot going on behind the scenes that
you know, it created a good amount of juicy stuff
to pull them in different directions. Never mind like the
forbidden aspect, but it was it was really it created

(46:37):
really complex emotions, but for their relationship and then for
them as individuals, and there's that's not there with this character,
with this relationship.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Do you like Jocelyn being in the WSP personally?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I think she definitely needed purpose and I do think
it creates a different direction for her other than just
being a normal college student because for all the even
though that, even though she's not one of Sunny's kids,
she grew up in that world, and I don't think

(47:16):
that having grown up in that world, she can she
was untouched and so while it while it doesn't necessarily
make her the most competent agent, I think I don't.
I don't buy her necessarily as this uber spy that
they're trying to turn her into. I think I understand

(47:36):
the psyche that they went into. I completely buy that
she was directionless and Jack maneuvered her well.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
As somebody who kind of likes the WSB aspect in
the general hospital kind of stories, I'm down for this
to kind of see somebody else pick up the reins.
I mean there's only so long that Anna. Yeah, Anne
at this point as ties to the WSB, like, I'm
cool to see like the next generation kind of pick
up into that. And maybe she will become a great

(48:14):
She could be the next Anna deband maybe. But I
mean we're seeing it.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
She's not there. Yeah, she's not there yet, and I
don't think that she needs to be. You know, we
didn't see we didn't see Anna the early years. You know,
we we we would hear about them retroactively, but we
didn't see Anna the early years in the agency, you know,
so you this this is all a learning curve.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
And whenever it does come up between I mean, you know,
her and Carly talking about this, I mean I guess,
I don't know. I mean I guess it'd be like
somebody like finding out your child was part of like
the CIA or something. How do you feel about them
doing stuff like that? But it's also Jocelyn is of
an age where she can make her own choices, good
or bad.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And I guess as a parent, you know you got
are just like you may not love their choices, but
you still love them.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, And I think that you know, circling back to
the Jason part of it. I think that that's something
that Jason is now very painfully aware of in a
way that he wasn't with his own kids and with
the and even with Sonny and Cooley's kids, because even
with his own kids, he was always on the periphery,

(49:25):
you know, the mothers took the reins. Now Jason is
so much more of a parent to his own kids
and by extension, to Michael and Jocelyn, because Jocelyn is
a grown up, but she's hiding, you know, she's hiding
things from her mom. She's not you know, Jackson is
somewhere else. So Jason is kind of now the only one.

(49:47):
He's kind of like in the parent role right now
where he knows something about her, but he can't say anything,
and he has to. This is you know, this is
stuff as godchild. You know, he was there, that he
was there the she was born. He you know, he's
her mother's best friend. You know, he couldn't love her
more if she was his. And so now he has

(50:07):
to adopt the same stance that he did with her
that he did with Michael, which is that I have
to be hands off. And it sucks and it's not
because she's not his child. If anything, it's because he
loves her so much that he has a responsibility to
protect her anyway she can, and unfortunately, right now, that

(50:30):
means keeping his mouth shut.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I can't imagine her coming back to Poor Charles though,
and not having some conversation with Jason before she talks
to Carly, because I feel like Jason needs to encourage. Well,
I don't know how much she can told Carly. I mean,
it's a whole I mean, I guess she can, but
then she has to, you know, remind I guess you
know brendan ness to then tell Carly about even though

(50:53):
you hate me, gout, Carly, you still have an obligation
not to reveal state secrets.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Oh boy, oh boy. It's it's a mess.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
But on the other hand, are you invested at all
in the Jack Brennan and Carly relationship? Has the show
done enough for you to kind of buy them as like,
do you even care when this comes out?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Well, they don't not in their relationship. No, I kind
of can leave or take their relationship. I'm definitely invested
in the character of Jack Brennan. I really I really
love his his dynamic on the show and how it
will continue to play out. He plays an important role
and he has ties to a lot of people, and

(51:36):
I do I don't think he's a bad mentor for Jocelyn.
I definitely think she needs more influence. But I understand,
you know, he saw her as an adult, That's the thing.
And I think that he's the only one. I think
that a lot of the other people in her life.
You know, when you watch someone grow up, you still
see them as that kid. Jack didn't get that. He

(51:59):
not even as car the boyfriend. Does he see that.
He sees her as a full grown woman and sees
her capabilities.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I'd be down if he's kind of like the next
iteration of a Sean donaldy uh to Devon to Jocelyn
to whoever else might if they are.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, I mean, Sean Donnelly had such a such a
legacy on the show that we sometimes we forget how
much in the gray he was in the beginning. He
was very much there. Yeah, yeah, so I can see that.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, yeah, but thin because we've been off for an
hour and we get all the other stuff out, I
think I'm missing you guys. Yeah, the guy that was
chat telling I missed anything of any relevance we got,

(52:54):
do we see treat in kindness? We get all?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Did they come off for a minute, Yeah, they connected
just they're like hey, because Kai was saying, and we
should be seen with each other and we could still
do it. My fingerprints were all over the softball bad.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
They finally remembered that.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
That because you're the nicest person, you would never would
ever think about you ever. Like, Okay, I thought I
was the throwway sees anybody come up there them? So okay,
anything else? Anybody else? Did we get anything? Everything? Everything?
They can do everything? Okay, okay, folks. It started at
the end of Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Was it Tuesday Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
So we we had saw the preview, had already said
this was gonna happen. I did not know how or when.
We didn't know what day. And I'm liking them when
the shows just a cliffhanger other than a Friday, I
love it, and the shows that I talked to the
last couple of years, so I'm really enjoying that they
just think it was a cliff hanger. And and I

(53:59):
had a feeling, so it's going to happen. Sure when
he had them go upstairs and all that, and then
when Jason walks around and as him and Tracy, I
had no idea the next day or so as we
mostly just Tracy and Jason, Jenny Elliott, Steve Burney, and
I'm telling you we said when when they come together

(54:23):
that Monica is dead. When he has to make the
phone call and Tracy takes his breath because he has
to get breath, and she she like touches his shoulder
and he continues me like I we some of us
have been there for we know it's like to have
a parent or's mighty die that's close to us. It's

(54:43):
really it was very every new one it was. It
was such a it was such great direction, great acting,
great mighty and just every inflection, every Jenny Elliot is
obviously a master, I mean as a master. I was
very very impressed with Steve Burton since he came back
from days. He's a different kind of actor. And I

(55:06):
feel I'm glad they're finally tapping into that. And I'll
be quiet and saying I just want to say this.
On the other thing, I really enjoyed their conversations, their
flashbacks to their complicated relationship, each with Monica with Monica
and Tracy fighting at the Christmas I remember that the tree,
uh and the baby flashback. Did not expect that either.

(55:31):
I mean, that was a lot. I mean that's I
didn't I mean, I mean, they're they're doing it. They
were pulling them tears out my face. They were just
just like here jays pull them out. I was like, baby,
it wasn't hard, wasn't hard. But I just I'm just
it was I thought it was genius. Actually, they have
these two characters have the initial hit. We'll get to

(55:55):
all the other stuff when I'm gonna stop there here
You're ro first.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Well we wish Ariselli, I mean, as our guest.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Oh thank you. I don't think anybody. I mean, these
are two characters, two actors who have been in the
show for decades. They have never ever had a scene
like this, just the two of them, never like you

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think about that, think about that decades they have had
scenes together. Never have they had a scene like this
was just the two of them and the emotion that
was just streaming out of them, and it was it was,
it was. It was the best acting I think any
that they have ever done. And I think it because

(56:53):
it came from such a genuine place of really playing
the emotions of they were paying tribute to the real
woman that they both lost, that they both respected. And
so that's why I you know, I oh gosh, I
mean and the unfortunately, that's where you get the best

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emotion is where you're not you're not pretending, you're saying,
you're really truly just letting touching something that's deep within you,
that's real. We've had we've had that on days the
past couple of years, where we've had every year for
the past few years we've been saying goodbye to a

(57:37):
patriarch on days of our lives. And now unfortunately we're
going through the same thing on General Hospital where it's
like every year we're losing We've lost a matriarch this
year and now recently with Christian Roers. It it's you know,
it's a cycle, and it's it's really hard. It's really hard.
And so my I tipped my hat to Elliott and

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Steve Burton. I know it wasn't just acting.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
One of the best things. I mean people with the
death of Sam I don't people have many different feelings
on that, but I feel like one of the best
things that came out of that though, was reorganizing all
the a lot of people at the at the Quarterman match,
and especially Jason. Yes, only that opened up to just
so many other interactions and storyline beats that he could

(58:32):
touch on that he didn't have an opportunity to before.
And just seeing him in a different role was just
so great. I like what that did really did for
the character, and I'm sure his performer it was exciting
for him. It's unfortunate. I mean, seeing the Monica and
Jason relationship has developed and evolved over the years, it
was great as they were getting closer. I mean really

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the last time was at the at the wedding Carly
was the last Yeah they had on screens together, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:02):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
So it's a shame.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
That's the you know, the bummer of life and how
that works out. It's like the times I we would
love to have seen more scenes together as back when
he was living at the quarter Rating mansion, and that
just wasn't wasn't a possibility. So, uh, that's a bummer.
I mean, so you can only just have to you
have to just imagine all the great conversations and scenes
that happened between those two characters and just let that,
uh kind of percolated in your head as you're watching

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these scenes.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Yeah and yeah, Like you said, the reorganization of the
the Quarterbay Mansion in the last year I think was
just huge. It brought it back to the way that
it was in the nineties where you know, it was
home base for everybody and it's it was you know,
you had you know, Dante and Rocco and Danny and
you know, Scout for a time and Michael and his

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kids really really filling that house once again with love
when it was stripped away and in the in the
early two thousands bit by bit, and so that that
was so fitting for that to be Monica's legacy, to
have everybody come back to home base.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
And I'll be curious to see before like who's Monica
is going to lead the mansion to would be Michael,
would be Jason, But the way that he was hanging
out in the uh in the Gatehouse, Uh, And where
the significance of that, especially after seeing that flashback again,
I mean if he just moved into the Gatehouse as
a way to be close to Demonica while Michael had

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the mansion or even I guess if he had the mansion,
but he lived in the gatehouse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Either way. For me, yeah, yeah, it's hard to me
that Michael's won't get it. I think so Tracy said
it's your It's like she kind of said, it's your
place or your home or whatever. I have a I've
been saying it for a long time that because he
was the apple everyone's eye.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Jason got away and then he want them back. Michael
was always the apple of the eye that it finally
got and he's the center of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, and that's the one. It's it's the one sticking
point that Drew never got. And it's like, well, what
you know, because he was complaining this week, you know,
you know between you know, you know, she's he was
complaining about Monica that you know, Monica was manipulated and
she forgave me. That was his son. You know, AJ
wouldn't have turned on Michael. You know, there were there

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were lines, and every one of them, every single quarter
may knew you did not do anything to harm a
hair on Michael's head. That was the line, and Drew
is the one that crossed it. So yes, of course
AJ was forgiven because a J wouldn't have done that.
AJ did literally everything else. A J knocked Jason into

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a freaking tree and changed the course of history forever.
And yet still he I mean, he wasn't never he
was never really forgiven in the same way, but he
there were little ways to that. They were, you know,
he had time, he had more time to be forgiven,
but he never crossed Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Uh, and just great to have those scenes with Jason.
Just his regrets about his relationship with Monica, that just
uh yeah, just really because the show certainly really played
into the Jason Morgan aspect for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, and regret regretting now that you know, regretting now
that now that he's had all these history, now that
he has, you know, memories of his his kid's childhood,
Michael's childhood, that he regrets. He regrets taking Michael away
from the Quartermains. He regrets. And let's be honest, it
wasn't the Quartermains he was really trying to take them
away from. It was AJ at the time. AJ. AJ
was out of control at the time, you know, and

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I think he, you know, Jason was was too green,
He was too young to understand the full extent to
what he was doing. But yeah, it was it was
it was ever Monica. He you know, Monica was the
person he turned to when Michael was born, when he
needed help. You know, it was you know, it wasn't
you know, it wasn't Carly, it wasn't you know, it
was Bobby and Bobby and Monica. They were the ones

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that were there for him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
And him lamenting that he can't have those memories of
Monica as his mom. H yeah, uh yeah, really great,
uh really great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
This week. Well, the thing was that Jason, what he said, Now,
I wish I had those memories. Yeah, that's profound after
all these years for him to say that, I didn't
express to say that. I'm like, wow, that's really interesting.
So you wish you could relate because it was so

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much fighting her for so long. Now I wish she
could see what she saw and remember what she remembers
and when Trace he goes but I'm here. She told
me everything. I can answer whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I thought that was very sweet and I feel like
that's the best thing about one of the strengths of
a soap opera, I mean, especially any other worrying one.
But soap operas, these genres have run for so long
is that it plays into that history. These are scenes
that really hit more because Jason Morgan has been a
character we have seen or Jason quatermain slash Morgan, uh,

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you know, for for decades kind of grow and evolve
and change, and so you know, statements like that this
week hit so much more because you see the evolution.
These are thoughts and feelings that they only have by
by just aging and maturing and living. And we've been
able to see a lot of that on screen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yes, And I think even though we didn't get to
see it because we didn't we didn't get to see
those scenes between Stu Burton and Leslie Charleston necessarily because
you know, she was already sick and then she passed.
Just the knowledge that I'm just grateful for the knowledge
that they brought him back in and that you know,
he did get what he did get more time, he

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got more time, He gave her more time with Danny,
with Michael and his kids. You know, he was very
much a part of the facilitation of that, so that
her final year was a joyful one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, and just seeing Danny come to the Jason at
the boat or the gatehouse at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Wow, that is sad.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yes, that wasn't That was an exceptional, an exceptional scene.
And again I tip my hat. You know, it's these
these young actors, you know, they're they're putting in the
work and they they're realizing, you know, you know, you
don't have to play up, just sit in the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I at first question why Olivia wasn't there at first,
but I appreciate the three generations and quartermains having a moment.
Yea ned having a complicated history of Monica clearly, and
when they said they loved each other at the end,

(01:06:13):
I was balling. I was just balling. I was like,
he just got there. They're the heart, They're the corporates
are hard, they're hard edged, they're just like they're just
like they suffer fools lightly, they talk crap about each other,
they fight, but when and they finally give you know,
obviously you're on the other show that he's on. Franklin
always is like, Walt christ are friend to us and

(01:06:35):
a friend of our show, but they give us something.
When he gives something media to play, we love it.
And he delivered He's like, I don't always tell you
all the time, but I love you. I really do
love you. I admire you, I love It's like Ned
can act like Ned I said, can act, Walley can act.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Shows, Walt look Wally, Wally. We we take Wally for granted,
I think because he's on two shows and he splits
his time. But Wally's had quite a bit to do
the last few years on both shows. You know, on
Days he's had he had he you know, he he
lost he lost someone there too, and that's yes, Wally's
been through the Ringer. Yeah, Wally, Wally had to carry

(01:07:21):
the family through. That's rights Victor Kuriakis losing John Aniston
on that show. Now he's having to kind of play
the facilitator now for Leslie Charleston's death, for Monica. It's hard.
It's just hard all around.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
And also his Anniversaryally just he celebrating thirty eight years
in Daytime. Yeah, I mean he debuted on Day's Were
Lives as just yes after debuted as that as as
Edward Ashton Quartermain. I mean, it's it's it's I mean,
we're probably doing so, but I just we wish you
had a little more on our show. Sometimes we like

(01:07:57):
him on air, so he's good when he's in there.
And he and Jane have such a great chemistry, and
it's gonna see him Brooklyn together something like the only
because we already know Brooklyn. You already know Jane and
a man that have a great chemistry already they just
because they're coming the same cloth. I mean, she and
the thing about Tracy you have to love and the
way Jane Elliott plays her, it's like she kind of

(01:08:18):
likes when one gets a little one up on her
but act like a quartermain to her. She smiles a bit.
She kind of smirks, I'm still gonnaw, I'm still gonna
show you. I'm still Tracy quartermain, But I kind of
like when you act like a quartermain. She appreciates that.
That's why I got her. Michael. I've gotten a little
closer over the year. She had no use for Michael.

(01:08:38):
They've gotten a little closer over the years because Michael
does like a quartermain, because the writers have actually led
him to go that direction, and it went true. A
couple of times. You smiled him to like, Okay, I said,
you're doing yeah, yes, But he's so out of controlled
that it's too much for her, but everyone's for somebody else.

(01:09:00):
She should be okay with it, probably, But she was
just just taking his own family, thinking away, like thinking
his own family. So I think he's like sometimes I'm
attacking us. It's just it's I just think that because
the Michael scenes too, the Michael scenes, that this is interesting.
It was all like, we have more to go, folks
there the only thing just found And then when I

(01:09:20):
went to the hospital, Elizabeth and Lucas find out. Wow,
They're like, wow, you read out her medical bona fides
le us know she's important to the hospital and it'said

(01:09:42):
it's gonna be a trip for them, you know. And
so we got more people to everybody's not found out yet.
So I was like, this is just the beginning. And
I was thinking those last couple of days were just amazing.
And they really, like I said, I think was it Thursday?
It was mostly Jane, Steve wasn't mostly Yeah. Yeah, it's

(01:10:04):
like wow, they believed it was a standalone episode because
they had the other stuff going over here. But it
was like, okay, they're holding down. They like they are
just like they are holding down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
They really are and it, you know, it was fitting.
So last night I went to go see the Sound
of Music at the Hollywood Bowl and who do I
see to the left of the Reverend Mother but none
other than miss Annalie, Oh the Lilah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Yeah, as I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Believe she was sister Margaretta in the Sound of Music.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Wow, I didn'tize that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Okay, yeah, if you look to the left of the
Reverend Mother, you will see a much much younger Annalie.
And it was and it tripped me out because they
knew we were going to be talking about, you know,
losing Monica Quartermaine, and it just reminded me of one
Lila passed and there's another time that you know, you know,

(01:11:08):
Steve Burton got to shine. And then you know, the
quarter means all came together after losing you know, our
dear sweet Lilah and the legacy that she left. And
it was it felt very felt, very poetic knowing that
you know, that circle is continuing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I have to say, I am kind of sad we
didn't get the I know it's cheesy, but I like it.
Somebody from the past coming and take them away to heaven.
That's not that's the thing. They usually do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I like I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I it's kind of fun to bring somebody back for
a second, whether it's Courtney for a homeboy, or or
it's it's Lilah come back for Edward and she gets
out the wheelchair and go, I'm a I'm a mask'd
total puddle, just like I buy it. I buy into it.
But I guess because we don't have her they did.
They didn't even do like a we always see her
hands or they do any of that stuff. They just

(01:11:57):
kind of they made they made a choice. It's not
bad choice, but they made a choice. Like Okay, I
guess that's would.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You rather seem just like two body doubles from the
from the rear of like Alan Crabvit coming back from Monica,
I would have Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Or Agent, which remember there was at one point there's agent.
Elizabeth and Emily came back. They took Allan, didn't they? Yeah, yeah,
I just I would sucker for it. I'm a sucker
only you almost wish if I died, my brother Max
will come get me and say, come on, James, let's go.
Let's go. Like I mean, I don't I have a
sucker for that. It's just so weird. It may happened.

(01:12:34):
I mean that's in real life, yes, but even on
the show. Well I guess, well, I mean if she bagged,
I don't wish she's in the hospital somewhere. I know
she's mor more don't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Well look, I mean I'm okay with flashbacks. We're definitely
gonna get her fill this coming week. You know, we'll
get Monica's funeral this coming week. We'll get you know,
a lot of a lot of good content. So you
know there's more to come. There's there and we can
there's more surprises to come as well. Yes, you know
life does not end with Monica's passing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
No, and we also have So are you filming right
now the wonderful six time Emmy winning actress you played
Victoria Lord, you can it at al oh Erica Slazak So,
and she's related to this somehow to you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
You don't know, James. It could be where like the
next week or so. We're at the crypt and then
we pull out and we just see in the foreground
just the backs of Edward, Lilah Alan Emily.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I'll be a mess. I'll be a mess, I have
She's right, I'll be your best I'll be a mess.
They do that, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Yeah, no one. Yeah, there's gonna there's gonna be so
many emotions this week. You know, Monico has related to
so many needs people. We'll touch so many people's lives.
Grab grab your tissues, folks. It's going to be a week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Wal he's been through it. Can we give Wally a
vacation for his anniversary? Either heard it? I'm a second
four to James. Yes, I don't think Monica's that's going
to change you. Well, he told him he found out.
Listener told him, was like, let's be like, shut up.
He just run his mouth, run his mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
He like, shut up, and then he got I'll allow
him to be at the funeral for scouts sake, but
he better keep his mouth shut.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Uh, Emily come back, that'd be great to have every
when he come back, they say someone expected shows up
on Friday. M Okay, what if Erica is Vaughan's mother?
Oh yeah, listen. Lizabeth did call Jake. She called Jake.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
She called Jake to let him know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yeah, I wonder if he'll come back maybe, Yeah, I
want to I want my Yeah, she did call Jake Jake,
So yeah, oh yeah, I you know Carly when she
finds out her Monica had a very tenuous relationship over

(01:15:12):
the years. Yeah, I'll be very curious see what her
reaction is to that. It'll be good, but it'll be interesting.
So it'll be very interesting. And the grandkids how to tell.
The grandkids are gonna do the whole thing and tell
I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Those good kids, we're gonna I guess that's it. We're
gonna end it around here and we do. Wow. So
any five minutes, you did it, and then time for
you you can take time between your shows.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Yeah, you'll see me in half an hour, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
You'll see you in a half hour and on the days.
But thanks for you're walking back anytime you come out
of here. Come on again. I know. But so it
was just it was great. Tell them what they can
follow you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
They want to follow you, so you can follow me
on Twitter because I used to call it anything else
and Instagram at TA three two three out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Of sell I still called Twitter too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Frank Rand frank uh and happy to go Jackie always
there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Kids. Trueman is now on I just saw right now
it's on Isbel Max. So I'm gona watching it. Try.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I watched tonight, Frank Nice, gonna watch you with your brother?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Yeah, he wants to. He want to see it. Yeah,
he wants me to see it with him. So I'm
gonna watch it. And then you said, Peacemaker, I gotta
watch episode one right there, you go do that as
I told you, so, Frank told me. Frank told me,
do it to me, do it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Yeah, you'll enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
You'll do it. Uh, folks, I'm James Junior. Of course
we'll be here next week for our ten year anniversary
surprises A bound are coming. Uh so it should be
a good time. Plus, it's gonna be a good week
talking about Girosal will be another good week to to
de arousal. So we're we're going to the first week
we started. It was the comments that Nancy Lee Grahm
made about thet them he's but the women's. That's how

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we started ten years ago, and now we're coming back
ten years with a big storyline. We maturech that's you know,
left the building. Uh so I'm very excited about that.
Uh everyone please be careful out there. If it's raining,
crazy whatever, say drive. If it's hot, please be careful.
Make sure you watch your pets. Pause. That was saying
all the time, a little pause, be careful when you're

(01:17:11):
out there in the heat. And we will see you
next week.