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August 24, 2025 • 103 mins
James and Frank reunite with GH Report/AfterbuzzTV OG Lacretia Lyon.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome. Yes, that's right, kids, here for another
GHV spotlight here on JLJ Media. You know who I
am and you know who he is too, But you
have a familiar face, you guys. You haven't seen it
in a while. And I'm just so happy and I'm
just I just I'm getting with excitement. Was celebrating our
ten year anniversary is coming into September. I can read

(00:23):
ten years. You know her l A C R E
T I A L y O. And there is only
one bitches. It's Lucretia Lyon.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes that's me. The other ll that Lewis Lane, not
lex Luthor. This one.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I like that. Actually I like that, folks. So before
we get to talking to her and everything and how
one offul she looks and how great she is, we
did that that me and who am I doing? With
Cannice Mac and Tammy Doccove. We did the show. Amana
Russ is on the side, she's getting something done, so
she went on today she's thinking something. But we did

(01:08):
that show, and of course, as you know, I turned
my chair around. I was done. We also had both
and Beautiful again. I was done with that show too,
So we did all those are out audio and those
shows are horrible audio and video. They are out there
speaking of ten years after our show, My Chocolate Twin,
Tony Moore and those people over there are Doingdition Days

(01:28):
still Rundition Day's channel. Make sure you check them out
and find out how old I am this month, this week, Today,
you always commentary, So check that over there to My
Days for our Lives, that's Dition Days, that's their channel.
Tomorrow Night Live and Living Color, it'll be me and
Tammy Ovay and talking about the bold and beautiful grand

(01:51):
opening at Sunset Studio lost Palmus Studios. We were able
to go last Tuesday. It's beautiful. Oh my god, it's beautiful,
your beautiful state. They treated us to the Habit Burgers.
I love the Habit, I love it. But we had
a great yeah, yeah, yeah, And we had a great time.
So we have video, we have audio, we have pictures.

(02:12):
So tomorrow night I'll be me and Tammy APM S
Pacific eleven Eastern talking about that whole situation. So I've
been coming up and this week on Voice of the
daytime also Tammy went to Anaka Well's bachelord party at Mickey's.
We were the only outlet covering it. And so I'm
looking at the footage right now and it's so good.
Got all these interviews that'll be out on Thursday. Uh

(02:36):
so we got also bold content for you this week.
We did a lot of Frank this week, we're tired.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
What was the event that they're just christening a new soundstage, so.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So bold and beautiful. I'll do a little brief, y'all
want you to watch the show, Frank, that's how you
get the answers. I sort of got no, so actually,
so basically you got the move. They left Television City.
They moved to Sunset Lost Palmers Studios in East Hollywood,
and so they did a grand open, literally ribbon cutting.

(03:08):
They had a band played the theme song. Was hilarious.
Brad Bell talked about it, and we had to tour
the set and so we're able to see all the
actors and have a good time. And so yeah, it's
a beautiful set. And so they're there now. Yes, Television
City was declared half of it was declared historic and
then half wasn't. It was sold off. So Young Arrest

(03:30):
is still in Television City.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Because it's part of the Bob Barker stage, I think
is how it got away with it, because yeah, and
like I've worked a few productions in there since then,
and it's crazy to see that stage remove Price's rights
now in Glendale.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, yes, and they moved. They moved also, so it's like,
so it's all so they did a whole Robbie. So
we go about that toron night and so, yes, the
og gang is back together. Cheryl Steven, Andy Gowin still here.
He said hi, to see you Thecreasah and wrote down
by So yeah, so it's it's it's the Avenue studio.
So we did that. They fed us and we had
to talk to all the stars, so we got we
didn't get any interviews. I got lots of pictures and

(04:09):
we didn't interview people. We just kind of like just
talked to them privately to none of your business. But
we did no swag, no swag, a free as a
free burger, which was fine, and we got all kinds
of I mean, I was a Forester Creations office, I
was on the set. I mean it was that part
was worth it enough, it was enough, so I was
good and I and also she's young and the restless Royalty.

(04:33):
I got to talk to Laura Lee Bel. I was like, cricket,
Oh my god, she was so nice. I tell you,
I get to meet her.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So what took something from the set? Of course, I.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Want I wanted a mug so bad.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
You didn't steal anything.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I got nervous. I was like, I go, damn, I
want that mug. They had like four of that mug
right there. I usually have a klepto, but I didn't
do it. I should I should? I should did that?
Should did it? But I told Casey the producer, wait
till we took picture together. I got I'm waiting for
my close up. See you probably on air twice. I said,
I'll sleep in the doorway. I don't care where. I

(05:15):
just want to be on the scene. So before you, guys,
asked Sean Kingdon was not there, my buddy. He was
in Italy with his wife. I talked to him, so
he was having a good time there.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
So well, that was the terriblest choice on his part.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I know, Italy.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Italy, Italy, rather than be in sunset Lost Paumas in
the middle of Hollywood. You know, I'm having to step
over all the tents before.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And it's hotspokes. You guys in La like it is.
I feel like I'm being cremated right now. So that's
just kind of how that feels. Uh. But James bought
his first air conditioner yesterday, so Flowo talked me into it.
Finally I pressed the button and he helped me pick
out which one it is, the ten thousand cuzeu where
everything is. And so I'm gonna get tomorrow, Fancy, very excited,

(06:10):
very excited because I'm tired of to the South Side.
So again that yes, we are here. So those are
those are your church announcements, I think, so I think
I don't do anything else. Oh and I interviewed the
first Kayla from Days for Our Lives, Kaptain Mary Stewart,
And so I've forgotten Hollywood. We talk about weekend at Bernie's.

(06:31):
We talked about The Last Starfighter. We talk about this
really bad late seventies musical called The Apple, which was
beautiful and it's right. Miss she's a great actress, she's wonderful.
We have a great time. That's out now forgotten Hollywood.
Captain Mary Steward again, she said she's the first Kaylea
Brady take that Grady about Evans. I'm just kidding. She

(06:54):
loved her. Okay, So I would catch up with Lcretia
a little bit because like, you see, she's here. You
guys are like, oh my god, she's here. So how
have you been.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Pretty good? You know, just hanging out here in the burbank.
I like it here.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You know, what are you doing these days? Well?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I do a lot of comedy and writing. I'm more,
you know, I've gotten away from the press side of things,
so doing just a lot of auditions.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Okay, Yeah, I saw you're posting some more of your
your stand up and stuff. I was like, I mean,
that's good, guys, you gotta do these there. I gotta
do that, and that's that's good. But I was like,
you look great. It was like she's here now again.
So because it is your mom, your brother and you, right,
guess we're all here.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wow? Does your mom like la? Now? Your brother like
l A. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's the thing is, you know, after COVID and everything,
everybody wound up kind of in the same place in
that boat. I think a lot of us decided where
we wanted to be and what we wanted to do
and are just doing it. So so yeah, everybody came
out here. We all live in a little house in
Burbank with Loki, So it's kind of nice to be
with family and be able to do what you want

(08:10):
to do, because yeah, I mean it's you know, comedy
doesn't pay guys, it does, so yeah, it's like that's
why I like every comedian I lived with my mom.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I had to say something because I from this is
a it's like a flashback to me. I think about
ten years and I think about how I know the
cretia For folks don't know this. She had been in
aff before I got there, and you had brought up
about it by the after Yeah, right, and they said
they told you no or something? Is this The days
hadn't started yet. They hadn't started yet.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, because like I was trying to get in and
I was pitching this because that wasn't there, and like
audition days hadn't started, and then like nothing came up
it and then you posted about it, and I was like, oh,
that's cool. I've been trying to get in there and
I wanted to do this.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes and stick to that. Interviewed her and yeah, you're
good at no idea and you were great.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know, I can act. So if you're listening, guys,
I do have that ability. I mean, I'm faking being
human right now. If you're looking for a female Alan
Tudic to voice your robot or your alien, like, h.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I love him, but no, I think I think back
at that. I think back at that. Folks have put
in a Craigslist. Folks, that's how old. Oh Craigslist, Oh Craigslist.
And I got over forty responses, that's what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And he was browsing those. We found it in two
different sections, but we all und up together.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
You know, totally. I found that. We showed me here
and Frank over there. His audition was a little different
than the Cretians.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
So I have to pick off my shirt for this chimps.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yes, yeah, I like yeah, like that's just I mean, yeah,
I mean I need you to wear more please see.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, Frank, didn't you want to be a superhero this?
So you got to be a superhero.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I love it, but I know for me, it's just like,
I mean, like this started my whole life. You guys
catching a chance on me and and got and said okay,
I'll do it, and I and then the other brother
person also there are a couple of folks I still
talk to you to this day. Who I didn't pick them,
but we're still friends. They're still doing stuff out there.
So there are a few folks. So Crazis wasn't completely
creepy back then. There was some creep stuff, but it

(10:44):
was okay still and I got some I got two
people at least. That was really good. So we had
a we had a good time. I mean, I just
I don't know, what do you think back at that
time here at being in the studio, So what do
you think, both of you guys, what do you what
do you think you look back at that, Frank first.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Think, I mean, you know, that was I mean, you know,
for me, like I had been wanting to have the
opportunity to try to do something like that and so
finally getting an opportunity to be in to do that
kind of stuff on that kind of platform was very cool.
And it was just taking everything that you know, you've
been kind of studying and practicing and getting a chance

(11:22):
to actually apply it practically. So, uh, that was a
lot of fun. Had I had a great time doing
it with the three of you.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Did you have any of you guys do market custels class,
they might do that.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, that's actually how I found this was Markey had
found me on Twitter and brought me in to do
the boot camp, and I had been in the classes,
and just like Frank, you were wanting to do it
in a practical setting, like actually instead of just in
the classroom sort of and put what you're learning and
what you're paying for to good use.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah. Yeah, the market function's cat, which is a broadcasting person.
I started with.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Market but did not end with my moved on to
other people. I just Markey style was not the one
that I jelled with as well.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
One of our favorite Wow Women of Wrestling is you
guys both know her, ally ConA Bradford. One of the
funniest interactions with al ConA and myself was when I
was like, oh, I like Markey, she kind of reminds
me of my mom, and she put her hand on
my shoulder and said, I'm sorry. It was really funny.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Like another after buzz alone, I was like that that
reminded me of that memory was it was really funny interaction.
I'm sorry. Marquis an acquired taste. She's lovely though, like
I've met her.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
She is actually cool. But she yeah, she's Yeah, he's
a acquired that's a great prayer, putting a great, great prayer.
But a lot of folks have gone. A lot of
folks have gone. I best sounds dirty, but a lot
of folks have her courses should say that that's not dirty.
I have two comedians.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
You.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I gotta careful what I say, because why I met Frank.
Frank was improv stuff at iOS. I remember that you're
doing that.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, but they closed, right?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Are they still around?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah? They closed late twenty tens.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Should have been able to run. The lady who ran
it also owns who did own at the time, Iowa
Chicago was just not the best business person.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So oh, okay, well try to go by there, like
something was busy and things were going on. I walked
by there, so things were going Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean I the sign is still there, was
it really?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It still exists there on Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh how funny. Okay, not even have to I'll see
this one over there and see it. So Frank, that's
why Frank's so funny all the time. He has that
he has prop stuff. Yeah, he says he has handed
to me all the time. He is those gonna come next,
but he says yes to am, Oh, I know it
comes next, James. That's why he says, yesterd Am, Yeah exactly,

(14:09):
he expect, but they just fight. To me, I just think,
I mean, ten years is a long time. I never
thought brillion years I'd be doing this ten years later.
I just never.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I just never.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Really, there's no there's just no thought about that. Just
like you're doing it, you do it, and then all
of a sudden years go by and then all of
a sudden, it's ten years rank h.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is crazy, especially because I mean, I don't know,
you get into that after Buzz sort of his zone,
especially if you're kind of new er into it, where
you just start doing bunches and bunches of shows, so
many shows, and then all of a sudden the pandemic hits,
and then you're then that kind of ends, and you're like, oh,
all right, thinking of James decided to create his own

(14:50):
network because otherwise, you know, I would have all these
thoughts and nowhere to say them.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, it's funny because you did a lot of other
shows together. U guys took advantage of it after I
kept saying, please go in there and take advantage of
the after buzz miss of stuff, and you guys did
because you guys did a lot of like superhero shows
and other things.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So yeah, Legends of Tomorrow. I got to say after
this show that it was always my favorite. We had
a good group and we had fun. Speed off Frank.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Dave Child. Oh I love Dave Child. Oh my god,
I love them.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
They were the best. They still are dead.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
It was so great.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't think they're dead.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
I love them. I get I get to know next
Michael a lot later a lot and he's and Tory
j Then we all live. I've done I've done podcasts
with them. At least have a podcast. Let's go to
our house and do the podcast with Yale Teagele and
all these after they're all out there somewhere. I was
talking to Jill Joe Monroe, another one who was next

(16:00):
after buther. I was just talking to her today. I'm like,
there's so many of us out there that's floating around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I saw him, Carrie and Yell at Comic Con. They
came through the Paramount Plus lotch where I was hanging out.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
So I love is you work. We carry off the
frank at all I did.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I did a few shows with her as well, So
it's great to see her doing more of this stuff
on a regular basis. What's that is, is y'all doing
more of this uh stuff for it for different platforms.
I think.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
So, I think they're all still doing the hosting and
like fan versation. I think with who they were with. Yeah,
I know, there's so many.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Then they're doing. They're doing stuff I sporadically I got
because Yell and I used to follow each other and
I do some kind of carry is based out a
cent of armor. Now that's doing somebody station. Yeah, yeah,
they're It was fun with carry Lane, so funny with
carry his little side note. I met her through Kinika
Lu because we did the Bali Watch show. It was
the Indian show and Carrie was in the Indian culture

(17:01):
like I was, and so they brought her to me
to mentor her. That's how we became friends. So I
kind of helped her. I helped met her when you
first guys, she'll tell you all story. We had a
whole thing there. Then she just took off. I mean
she was like, yeah, like you guys, did all these shows,
and it was funny. One day I was talking in
the floor boys or another ex after brother. We also
a friend of this obviously for the show. He was like,

(17:24):
you know carry Delane. She was like, so I know
James on Junior and and he's like, I should figure
out now, James Junior. But I said, how do you
know Carrie? So they did American Gods together. I was like,
I said, well, first of all, I love that show.
It was a great So I said, yeah, they did
that show together. That's how he met her. And I
was like, just it's all a small world, right, just

(17:44):
all just kind of we all kind of did work
together with each other off and on.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean there was the nst thing about Afterbo that
at a certain at its peak where there's almost it
would be hard pressed to think of any ten of
show that was airing on cable or network that wasn't
getting an after no matter a niche or how a
well received it was.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, because I was forcing my brother to watch Sanna
Clea Diet just so I had an excuse not to
watch this again, and I'm like, who's the show for
besides me? But I remember doing the actors so far,
I'm starting to realize that. I mean, we're lucky we
got three seasons, because while I really enjoy it, I mean,
you just switched Gary and Tent and like Joel and

(18:29):
like that's just like my dream. Betimes, they oh, so
who's this for besides me?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Okay, yeah, like they were literally just churning out content.
And then after Buzz as well, and yeah, I mean
we were just in a weird time because yeah, as
we were discussing before, I'm like, I've barely watched TV anymore,
but at that time, it was just like TV show
after TV show, and then we did the after show
after after show. The I think there's even a Family

(18:56):
Guy bit about the after show. For the after show,
we talk about what they talked about on that show.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Oh yeah, I mean like like Carry that we did
like Hoodinian Doyle, Like I was like one season, like who's.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
On one season?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, And I think only Carry and I were the
only watchers, So.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I believe you're watching. I remember hearing about that show.
I don't think I ever watched it. I remember they
once needed some the whole cast of this one after
show didn't show up and I happened to watch the
shows on h It was called The Brick or something,
and it was a comedy about war and I love
to show. It was a fun, guilty pleasure. But I

(19:48):
literally came on the last you have the show and
the fans were like, who are these people? I couldn't
stop laughing. They're like, who are I was on the
whole season, but I was like, they had better finish
it out, and Hi, I'm some guy you don't remember.
I totally played into it and it was like, it
comes like who is he?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Why is he here? What happened to everybody else? I
couldn't stop laughing. I thought, that's how ridiculous got. After
a while, I was kind of just don't do the show.
I mean, don't know who I am. It was just
it was hilarious after all. Yeah, I mean I did.
I did eight hundred and eight hours of Dollerson there.
I remember, I counted it. I did a whole before
I left.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's it, James, Come on, you couldn't get to nine.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's hard geting to nine some time.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
But yeah, I thought another great thing about after butzz
it did give for some shows adapted did actually interact
with some of the talent, but both in front of
behind the camera for that. So even like Christian and
us like having a chance to like Glenn Morgan.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
For actually, yeah, that was awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh still one of the coolest people to come at
in for an interview. That's like, that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, I will say Glenn Morgan's definitely in my top
of the interviews. We got to do it After Buzz
because I mean, I have an X Files poster still
in my room. I mean I was talk about my
favorite shows when I was a kid, for Buffy and
X Files. But and it's like, then, what show is that?
Combo Supernatural? It's like, thanks, just kind of are as

(21:20):
you grow up because a lot of the same people
worked on that show as well. So and I did
the after show for Supernatural when I was at After
Buzz those last couple of seasons. So it is interesting
to think about all the things we did there, all
the people we got to interview. I mean, I still
talk about Ted Raimi liked us so much from Ashers
and People Dead. He came back like that's cool.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
But that's an awesome thing when you actually had that
with some sort of talent and they enjoy the experience
so much, like, yeah, I will come back and chat
with these people again.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Captain Gobby going, yeahs go way back. We literally go
way I like ten years as you like, she said,
it's changed, and Frank come back on.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
She was like missing her Michael Couple yea our podcast,
you know, even during the pandemic then Colin love it.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah right, so she was like, we had Michelle Stafford
obviously bringing in products, always coming through, and it was
like we had we were very fortunate. And it's funny
when when people tell me, like you are just like
because Ryan pavi is coming back, you saw that friend?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yes, yeah, right at home.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
We saw Ryan Pavies come back. We know him, We
had him on the show, like we know. It's like
I have pictures with everybody. I mean, we have pictures
with everybody. Everybody came to you afterwards. I mean I
was working at that machine to death. So it's kind
of like it's just so weird. It's like we know
these people because they came on our shows in person
and would hang out with us and taught the shows.

(22:45):
I mean a great did baby that didn't show Baby
Daddy for three seasons. Melissa Peterman and we had a
great tas we had time. We went on set, I
met the producer. We had it, that little show that could.
We had guests every week. I was like, why are
we doing a half hour comedy as an after show?
But we had the guests on and it was so
much fun. I mean it's I don't know, so, I mean,

(23:07):
it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
What you had for your impastor after show.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh my god, I had Michael And so here's the deal.
My daughter still loves me because he drew a picture
on air and then signed it to her, and so
I came as a present because she loves she. I mean,
she's all about Michael rosenbaub sorority boys and you know,
and everything and everything and small and all that. So
that's the one time, folks, I did a show drunk

(23:35):
and I blacked out. If I've ever done a show
where I don't know what happened or how I got
home Because my co host were the two drunk girls,
that was their thing, Laura Jeffrey Golden, and we always
drank on the show, but that day I hadn't eaten,
and all the lights and just and I mean when
I look at the show, Michael Rosebaum's in my lap

(23:57):
at one point, see him at one point we're talking
about kind I mean Stephen, Oh my god, he hated us.
He stormed out. Apparently after the show we were were rails,
and but as the fans loved it, they were like,
oh my god, they loved it. He bring guests, just
bring him in because he lived on She goes, I'm
bringing in Lindsey Gordon. So that was one of the

(24:18):
most fun shows ever did. But I did a show
where I went home, you know how I got there
and I walked through something like how am I tucked
in bed? And I drove that scary, So I don't
know what had happened. But I was like, James, you
get a monitor your drinking while you're on the air.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
What did you say to Michael in the morning when
you when you rolled over.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Michael Delicious cut your hand? Now, yeah, no, that that
was I don't remember asked. One show I ever did
that was that I was actually so drunk, So oh yeah,
any that was that was, Yeah, that's if you go
that's an episode. That's what they were called the Jew
Drunk Girl. That was our whole thing, and so we
always had Champagne or whatever who did that show on

(25:01):
Leshay's Bar. We did both those shows.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Do you have you had Josh Kelly, who's Cody on
GH on this show because I did the Unreal After Show.
He was on that show as well, and we had
our money Dick Power shirts that they'd sent us, like
there was like a fan who made those and would
sell them on Etsy or something, and he brought his friend.
We had a really good time and we also may

(25:27):
have had a few, but yeah, I was like, oh,
I was so happy when he came on as Cody
because I remember what a good time we had it
after bus for that other show.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh, Josh Kelly's funny because Tony Moore's husband a whole
friendship for you, been friendship for years and you know
he's with Chloe Lanier.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, and I guess on that.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm friends with her. I stayed friends with her and
we still talk, so we're still friends. But anyway, so
Tony said you should go on My James the show
because I do. I do a want to live after show.
That's why. Yeah, because we didn't like Cody's character getting
it on G we did like it at first. Now
I'm okay with him now and he goes, I go, well,
you know I should do, But I said, can I

(26:08):
just interview you for both shows? So I did one
for g H and one for Like to Live. He
was so gracious and wonderful.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, no, I love them because Tanya was his mother
on One Life to Live, who was Sam's stepmother who
also did the Unreal show with me, and we always
talked about how funny that one. It's like a weird
instuous family there.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
M H. Guess Mike Thomas is Lacretia. Yes, she's here.
This is not an illusion. She is here. Our lady is.
So she'supposed in company. She's still getting ready because she
got to ask me earlier. I did send it. I
did send it to her, I said other thing. So anyway,

(26:48):
it's good to see you. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm
glad you're doing well and that you guys came back
to Case. You were in Texas for most of the
time we did the show here. You were there during
the pandemic, so I'm glad you Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, I've been in LA like the Burbank area since
like the end of twenty twenty one, So yeah, I
was just there for you know, the dark times, I guess,
which was kind of nice. It wasn't quite as shutdown.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're drinking in the streets. I think I remember something
like that king in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Well as somebody who's keeping up with GH still Lucretia
ten years later. How are you feeling about the show?
Is it same?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Better?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Just different?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I will say like a lot of GH is really
good to me. I do enjoy the show, especially with
some of the spy stuff. I gotta say I like
the WSP stuff because it is funny. I like that
Kelly the Vote is back because she played shop Brandon,
Ralph's character's wife on Chuck, where she really doesn't have
any lines. She's just a big part of the spoiler

(27:51):
alert guys, Sarah's Red Test and kind of a huge,
you know, storyline plot point of the third season of
the show Chuck. So it's kind of interesting to see
her involved with this considering they kind of like did
give her a lot to do with that to be
kind of an integral part. But yeah, so like overall,
I mean, I've certainly enjoyed Jason's return, but uh, like

(28:14):
anyone who remembers me from before not thrilled with the
new Lulu like gotta say, like, I mean, I love Brooklyn,
so I was gonna be team Brooklyn anyway because Amanda
is great, Like I liked the character a lot. But yeah,
just why why did we bring aro ound of Acoma

(28:34):
just to do this? I mean, and of course I've
even offered to just kill Drew myself. I mean I
want us to just have everybody killed Drew, like everybody's
involved with it, like that Dary episode where it's like,
oh no, Seaney shot him, but then Porsche like put
the pillow over his face and then Nina stabbed him.

(28:55):
Hell well, even let Willow get a try, like I mean, like,
let's let everybody try to kill him and him be dead.
But yeah, so uh yeah, overall, like I said, I
like Cody. I like that he's Mac's son.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, as my attack goes, I love baby Daddy. That's okay,
So Frank, Okay, it was a fun show.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, it's uh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's like with Drew.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't know in terms of like do you want
him to be like the like an Adam Carrington where
it's like he's a bad guy, but he does have
these human sides that can that make you not completely
hate him. So I don't know if it's like that's
what gh is trying to drive him towards, but they're not.
It's so tough to make it like they're not making
him at all, like not giving me any sort of

(29:52):
like well roundedness to make me feel like, Okay, he's
not He's only ninety eight percent bad. There's still at
least something redeeming about him, because right now that he
just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, he's no Casadine. I'm sorry, Like in where are they? Like,
I mean, come on, he got Valentine and Victor? I
mean cause again Victor is dead but not I mean
come on, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
A question for you, Lucretia, Manny going, do you still
hate Sunny Lacretia.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
No, Like it's funny. Sonny and Jason are probably more
of my favorite characters now because I feel like they
came to a point where they got them and they're
allowed to be themselves without being like pushed as this
and I do love It's like, look, we're just going
straight into like classics Sonny trying to charm the da

(30:50):
Like I kind of dig it, like it's really funny,
and uh yeah, I mean I love the new direction
we're going with Jason, especially with Danny and like the brit.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Stuff see at the resort, like dressed up in a suit,
kind of fou undercover, like yeah, this is like this. Yeah, yes,
absolutely anything that gets Jason just out of the black
T shirt is always welcome to me.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Let's talk about that, folks. I really went against that party.
We have some people watching, thank you. Here's the deal.
Folks I see online are bitching and moaning about Jabrette.
And my thing is, here's my take, folks. This is
really quick. I'm gonna hear theirs. They would have went
that direction originally, that's where they were headed. Yeah, and

(31:40):
then he didn't want to get vaccinated or whatever. So anyway,
so the things happened, so he was your moved from
the canvas and then to her story like toy change
and there was there's a whole other thing, but they
were going that direction. That was the point. So they're
picking up to where the people's jaws are dropping. The
young hate Sunny anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
But like what's to hate about Sonny though? I mean again, yeah,
That's why I was like, what's to hate about it?
We have plenty of other characters to heye that that
are terrible. Uh yeah, they're called Drew Lulu. Like, I've
never liked character Willows, so I was like, I mean
to take it or leave it? When she's the least

(32:21):
bad of news.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was like, ere, like you said, chat Jason and Britt,
I think they have chemistry. They were going that direction anyway,
So I don't know what you guys want them to do,
but that's where they're going. So I'm like, I don't
know how you guys.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Can Again, things changing as we watched the show and
we're removed from like, you know, this element. Sometimes I
would have been fine with Jason Elizabeth getting back together.
I know. I liked Rick and Ava and was like
all in of course. I was like, oh too, baddies,

(33:02):
we could have done this just like her and Nicholas, Like,
I don't know why they're so afraid to have an
awesome evil couple, but they are so Yeah. I was like,
why do we have to throw Elizabeth back in Rick's
orbit and make this whole thing? Because I like Cody
and Molly, but I also like the Cody and Ava
thing because it was the best character still. But yeah,

(33:25):
I'm just like I would have been fine. It would
have made sense at this point in Jason's life and
Elizabeth's life to be together. Her kids are older and
one of them is his in the way that we
have Jason's character with Danny now, it would have made
a lot more sense. But you know, you never should
have killed off Roger twice.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, I agree with you, Adiya with Ava, both with
Rick and with Picholas, I feel like in both both
these cases, we never got to see them really just
be kind of like a couple for a while, yea,
do shitty things together, kind of start trying to get
them to the other, the immediately break them apart.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Like, why, unless you're going to bring back Griffin, which
I mean, we all know doctor hot Priest is much needed.
I mean, Matt Cohens in his own stuff, but I
mean he could use a real paying gig. I mean,
I don't I don't know if he wants to, but
if we're not gonna pair Rick in any of the
at least bring back Griffin.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
He saw the phone, right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
They keep hinting at him.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Oh, just like I'm sorry, I'm just a little side note, folks,
I want r J Gannon on my show. I went, Timothy, yes,
come back Isaiah's uncle, his uncle.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Or his dad because I mean, well, because what Rachel
is on Beyond the Gates, Like I don't really watch that,
but I know Daphne flaw is you know on there,
because yeah, she was the last Rachel I remember. But yeah,
I love the game and so and when they name
checked that, I was like, are we going to have
them come back?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
R J come on?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah. The hair, well, it's a bummer that. It's like
because I felt like that was like part of the
tea's when he first came on the show Isaiah. And
it's been a year now and we've got no real
development of Isaiah other he's got Lucky's cabin. That's like
a money yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Like wasted Lucky again.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's like, why, yes, you saw that. I fought with
folks on that. I'm like, there's a gigantic waste of
I mean, yeah, Jonathan Jackson, Jonathan jack hopesaid, yeah, that
was her. I smiled to you just wh she said
that and I don't remember I take us at home.

(35:41):
Duke's not coming back, folks. I know I thought he's
not come back. You know this reason why I came back.
But I can't say it on here. I can tell me.
But no, yeah, but and no, I know I saw
you guys in the chat and the Cretia. I know
she knows. It's still the name that will not be
Nate would not be set on my channel. If they

(36:03):
make this hymn person at the five copies that person.
You I don't know what I'm talking You all know
what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Me,
I'm crazy. You know what I'm talking about. If he
becomes if he's the hymn, I'm gonna run in traffic,
I'm gonna have Flow will film me running into La
traffic at five point thirty by Sofi Stadium. I'm ending

(36:23):
my life. If they bring back what's his name, I
swear to God they better not bring him back on
the show. It better not be him.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I threw way more than I ever hated he who
shall not be named, by the way, because there were
at least times where he shall not be named. Amuse
me for being so bad, like like because the traffic
is murdered, like we still open the door that way
and laugh about it like it was. And there was
the time about finding out that the baby I thought

(36:52):
the uh fire sprinklers were gonna go off, like there
were funny times. Sorry and again Cameron matheson, I've met
You're a lovely person. But do all the hall Mark
and other stuff you want, but just die on this
show like I'm sorry, I hate.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Drew Like here's my thing. See, I don't mind because
the man should not be named. Yeah, he chewed so
much scenery as surprised as the stage left, it was
like at some point it was like, oh, oh my goodness.
So I would say, you guys know, I don't think
it's him. First of all, I would. I would love

(37:30):
it to be a cat's diner. So but I'd love
to be like, you know, or somebody because got a prison.
I don't. I just don't. I don't. People keep saying
James and think it's something. I don't think it's him either.
I don't think it's him either.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Nathan was Faison and Old Brick's son, BRIT's brother. They
have both of the same parents, who's to say that
he didn't have a twin and missus Soap's like, this
is maybe Nathan's evil twin, like because that would make
sense right and not be Peter. I'm sorry I almost
said the words in the theater.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I just what do you think? Right?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Come on, Frank, Like with Ryan's comment that he said
he wanted to come back for kind of a meaty storyline,
I don't know if this means that he's he's he's
it's it's it's Nathan, but as just as a vision
to Maxie or somebody else, because that, especially with Mexican,
just going to that real doesn't mean anything to us. Yeah,
so I would. I mean, I'm down to do the

(38:34):
soaper thing and have it be really Nathan, like yeah,
I mean, I guess the evil twin thing isn't is
a good alternative as well.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
But you know, we don't tell you, Yeah, we folks
at home. He claims it's not Nathan, but we don't
know who's paying.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
People are all the time, well all the time are
they're told not to say anything. And again when people
ask you like stupid questions like or questions, you know
you can't answer her and you have to give it
an answer or people are just gonna misconture your words.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, if it was indeed, Nathan, what do you
What does Maxie do whenever she comes out of her
coma next year?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, like because Spinelli. I'm sorry. The one couple I
give two craps about on this show is Maxie and Spinelli,
and they belong together. Let's not bring Nathan back. We're good, Like,
you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
It's like, no, I will say kind of morphine adding
that in it because I love unbroad stories weren't in there.
I really did enjoy this week. And it comes to
the home Maxie thing in Spinelli and Felicia basically recreating
kind of Felicia and Lucy talking. Oh my god, it's

(39:47):
like harp. I loved it. I thought, that's what a
great way they did that. But but but Spelly ran
in there. Oh my heart dropped.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I'm like, that's I mean, yeah, Bradford's so good. I
love spin I'm so happy when he's on. I like
that we have Jason Becks, we can have more of
the Spinelli stuff, and I just feel like he fits.
I loved when he filled in for Tracy. At the
Nurses ball. That was kind of like one of the
only highlights.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I mean, and just he just he just he broke
my heart already when he came in there. And I'll
say this, even the Lulu, the Lulu, I don't care
if we don't care for Lou either, but the Lulu
Oprech stuff was interesting. Actually they came to an agreement.
I was like, okay, yeah, this fighting, the fighting would
get too old after a while.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
The fight, Yeah, it was a little like in I
do feel like they wrapped us up sooner because we
are having to have Maxie off, because it would have
been better to have Maxie have that conversation with Lulu
about the person that Olbrick really is. But I did
like that at least we got to see her with
James because that is his o MA like, and she
is this different person. But yeah, I mean, I feel

(40:58):
like they've got to start getting into a better direction
with Lulu instead of just the screaming harpee, I'm better
than everybody else stuff. Because again, like with Drew, after
a while, like there's only so much that we can
take from your character when there doesn't seem to be
much of the redeemability as far as likability, because like yeah,
uh you know, yes, these male characters or female characters

(41:21):
can be murderers, but like people still like them because
they're not annoying you.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
No, yes, yeah, it's uh, I've it's it's tough because
I would like it. I think Lulu can't play a
good part on the canvas. But man, the way they've
been writing or such as come out of like yeah,
like for all the excitement that I was feeling about
having her to be back, Like, man, this show is
maybe so uninterested in Lulu, like actively, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Mean we should not hate Luke and Laura's daughter. And
I really, I really, I've really tried to have an
open mind when you know, because the Babe character was
just so obnoxious. But I'm like I've I've seen Alexis
and other stuff and you're just like, okay, I tried,
but they just really went that direction again where it's
just the holier than now and it's not attractive at

(42:10):
all to watch a character like that when you're like, okay,
like we all have been watching this show a lot
longer and we know exactly what your character's done, so
this isn't This isn't going over well, and I'm not
sure why they think that that was going to make
her a routable character.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
God agrees with you. My thing is you're a Spencer.
Spencer's are heroes. They're kind of cynical, but they they
will come around. They're loyal to come around in a punch.
They're kind of funny, you know. I kind of that's
that's how you play that. That's how you play them.
Lucky became a coup later, which was an interesting choice

(42:50):
to the sense of his father, so to speak. Laureate. Yeah,
Lulu was like her father. That's the whole point. She's
more like him, And I think I want to see
more of that where it's like the kind of jokester. Yeah,
she'd give mail on stuff, but she was like, but
like they see the world through different eyes the rest
of us. I don't see that in her. I don't

(43:12):
see that.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Uh and about because one relationship that I really like
that the show is not done as much with since
she's come back is the Lulu Tracy relationship.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, that's the best relationship that Lulu's had throughout all
of the actresses until like we've had a scene or two,
but it's just I mean, I do get it's not there,
but you have to build that and we just don't
see it enough. And that's to me that I like
that there is that conflict because brook Lynn is Tracy's granddaughter,
but we're not seeing enough of that.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
No, I agree with you on that. All of you
guys are that too. It was like, yeah, I was
talking about how much she loves lu Wan. They're not
together that much. I mean, I know they're trying to
do the I'm not even trying to rebuild the Laura
in her situation. I get that's her mother for sure,
but I was like, but Tracy's important part. I'm wise
he's not at the quarter means more like why is
the other? I mean, I think he who plays Rocco,

(44:07):
But here's my he's good, here's my here's my dream.
Just because we so annoying, I want Geo and Lulucie together.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I don't want that to happen, but I do think
it's going to happen because like, Lulu is so awful,
I expect her to do that. Like, and that's what's
funny is I do like that this Rocco and britt
stuff has come up, and we say it all the time.
I don't care how terrible it sounds because it hurts Lulu.
It's like, look, I mean, after the way that bitch
did Brooklyn and Geo and all this and still acts
like she's the hero, I was like, I hope Britt

(44:40):
comes back and Rocco is like Lulu, who just because
I mean, Karma is a bitch. But yeah, I mean
I don't want that to happen. But I could see
them doing that.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
But for you, Brenda and Michael and Carl wat yeah, okay,
that's huge.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Shall not be named, but.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Right, But I can see just for me because I
love Brooklyn so much. To have Brooklyn walking in on.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Her son, I just think that was just as long
as she pulls her up by her hair like a classic.
So because yeah, I was like, see them doing this
because that's what they would do, but.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
That he was a good girl.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I love a granny fight. When Nina fell into the
water the other day, I was like, oh good, Like,
oh my god, Nina in this storyline, I'm like, look,
she was in a rock and hard place. That's whatever.
I'm not really judging.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
What did he go do? It's like, yeah, folks, Nina
was not in love with Drew. That was not that
was it was just lust and hated him.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
But the thing is, like, I feel like Nina is
her own worst enemy because to herself, she could easily
avoid it all, but she was too afraid about losing Willow.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So it's like and again, why, Like, I mean, I
get she's your daughter and you wanted to raise her,
but like she ain't nothing to right at home about.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
She didn't get nails. She has her other daughter.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, but let's face it, Sasha was the one who
lied to her and wasn't really her kid, and she
was easily her favorite. And you think if you ever
got Nina drunk, she'd probably say that too.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I know, I know, I think Sophia taking time off
in real life, but.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, she was great daughter.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
She's the real daughter. The other bitches then she's the
real daughter.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Why he used to be focusing on her again, like
in a series of like bad Willow Choices, I don't
know why she thought, like talking to Christina and asking
if she was custified in her behalf at the custody trolley.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Like how do you think what Michael's sister? Like yeah, Like,
I don't know, how.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Were you expecting You're just say yes, of course I
will do that for you.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh yeah that. I was like, I would have slapped
Willow across the hospital like she did Lucas.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I know. I was like, I like the new Lucas.
By the way, him and Marco have been great additions.
I'm like, yeah, I like this.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
She's lucky.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
H like yeah, because Arcol saw it too, and Liz
saw that phone call between Drew and Willow. At the end, Liz,
you got to ease up as well, like, oh you
know Christina.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
She's like, no, this bitch is too far gone. I mean,
and again I don't get it, like uh, It's like
both of their characters are kind of delusional in their worth.
It's like I get you the congressman, and you're like
school marm like mommy type. But it's like, can we
just be done with these characters? Like I would rather

(47:53):
now come back?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Oh no, that's a rough one. That's a real no
fan of hers.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I love my Mail, I love Neil the Pits.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
She was the Pits.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Us.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Both of you would you for Drew? Would you rather
this be the real Drew? And he's for whatever reason,
had you know, a change of behavior and he's just
becoming a horribly bad guy and whatever happens to him
happens to him. Or would you rather be like, Oh,
there's the real Drew who's still out there. He's replaced
by Shiloh. This is Shiloh impersonating Drew or somebody else

(48:33):
impersonating Drew, and we killed this Drew off as part
of a storyliner bringing back Oh, but the real Drew
was saved all along, and we could bring back Cameron
Mathison back.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Is the nice Drew?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
No, not Cameron Matheson. I was like that was the
only issue with that, because it's like, look, I love
Cameron Matheson, but I feel like he's better suited on
other shows because I feel like they would try too
hard to just do the same thing, because that's exactly
what they did with Ryan. But it's like, if it

(49:04):
were Roger, because obviously we can't have Billy. If if
we if we figured out a way that it was
Drew and Roger is just Drew again, because it's not
like he didn't play him before the memories, that would
be the only acceptable way. Or we could just kill
Drew and be done with this character.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Here's my thought, folks, I say, Victor Cassanine turned him
with that with the card and made him evil Drew.
That's my whole thing. So Victor comes back and that's
the whole thing. And he's like, if that's his pawn,
almost like a Stephano a pawn thing on days of

(49:43):
our lives, and he would make Drew his pawn and
bring back bring back some Chiles Shaughnessy.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
And we love yeah, exactly, I love him a.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Big dolf, but I am very much about he turned
the card, made are showing the tarot car on the
cardiga and bring back Charlotte who was talking to Granny
and when she had that box of stuff because Victor

(50:10):
got her, got her onto and make her an evil
Castilie too.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, Charlotte's great. Like That's the thing is I liked
that Cassadine dynamic because even without Spencer and Nicholas, which
I mean, they're an integral part of the show, but
you'd have to, like, you know, get a good recast
for both of them, but they're they're an interesting part
of the show. So I'm surprised we haven't brought any
of the castad Irons back, but you have Victor, Charlotte Valentine.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
All right there, Ace is still on the show. The
thing is they mentioned once recently caught it Lacresia, well, Molly,
because you're a cassadized, I think somebody. Yeah, So, I
mean it's it's they're there.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah with the Davis girls. Yeah, And I'm just like,
maybe the Toson needs to get that dagger Withdrew.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Like a dagger so or makes Sidwell a Cassadi or
some I was like, come on, I.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Like Sidwell, like, yeah, he's a really good actor.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
We had him on shelve the other day.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I really thought there was something going on because like
when Carla when Sidwell and Alexis first meet at Windermere
and he's all about getting here to touch that dagger. Yeah,
and then he puts it in a plastic bag. But
then he just later on gives her the dagger. So
I don't like, yeah, one of that whole beat that
we never really saw. I mean, clearly the writers wants
to change direction on whatever story that they were thinking of,

(51:31):
But I was like I was just dangling there. Okay.
So in terms of villains that are being brought on
into the show. Are you happy that the way that
Sidwell has been introduced.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, I will say I've enjoyed the Sidwell character, and
I kind of like that we're having him be a
bigger part and his son in certain things. Again, I
feel like both Marco and Lucas they sort of brought
them in without forcing them in and they just kind
of fit in. And same thing was said, well he
sort of slowly slittered in as this bad guy again,

(52:05):
because I think it's because the actor was so great
in his initial stuff with Holly and Lucky. It's like, okay, yeah,
I think this guy because to lose like Jeff Cober,
but he kind of had to kill off Cyrus at
that point, so you had to come up with somebody.
And that's why I hope Erica Slazak is a villain,
because I don't know if you guys saw nobody too,
but Sharon Stone's like female villain is like amazing, So

(52:28):
I would love to see Erica do something like that.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, you're a masterclass and acting, and but there's substantusly
Monica's sister that we never see before.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh yeah, oh well, of course I can see that
for one second I must then ask Lucretia the question
like if in your mind, would you rather recast Monica.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Or I feel like they have to kill her off
with these characters that are essentially retiring on the show,
Like it's the most respectful thing you can do is
have a nice send off with them instead of recast.
Maybe if she dies of a broken heart because her
son drew some atrocious.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Well, Tracy said, I want to tell Monica everything. I
was like, you tell them, girl, tell how you did that.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And then we just cut to her bed and we
just see the hand just kind of drive and then.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You know, like exactly, because I feel like Jane would
nail it. Like I love Tracy, She's.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
The best, She's the best. I'm so glad they brought
her back. I'm glad did a great job. Yeah, I
you know, it's it's funny, say, uh, thank you Charas backic,
thank you? Like and also, yeah, right, Frank, why the dagger?
I thought Swell was a cast an eye. That's what
I'm saying. They don't, they're not. They hits it in

(53:59):
a couple of things. There's nothing. Yeah. Uh, Connie was
right what she told me that it's funny I mean
freaking I kind of get tired of Carly and need confrontations.
They get old after a while. They bring anything. I
mean like, yes, you pushed it in the water, Okay, whatever,
I mean, it just it just and it wasn't the
funny part. She goes, hi, Hi, people want to know

(54:22):
if that's found that out yet, But that was kind
of that was kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Because it is funny.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yes, yeah, I did like Geo offering a Chiel to worship.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, like Geo a lot. I'm glad they finally have
stuff for him, but I'm just afraid it's gonna be Leila.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah, the kid is cute. No, not, the kid is cute.
It's great hair. And I want to say this, he
is trying to act. He really is trying to act.
Sometimes the facial expressions while he's trying to act make
me laugh and take me out of the scene sometimes.

(55:03):
I mean he's trying. He's trying. He's trying, like, hey.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, has always had a good younger set, like I
really like Danny too.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, and James is good James all he knows all
the dish, he knows everything's going on. He's hotly Maxie child.
He knows all the dish, all the tea, knows everything's
going on. So so it was Sidwell, right, who poison Maxie?

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Oh yeah, I'm sure with the face cream, right, Frank.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I mean they spent that whole last week just really
reinforcing that to Sidwell that Maxie's dad chief detectives.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
To watch the show you watched, Holland Hart, I will today, like, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Because I know we had Carlo on last week. He
teased about the kiss with Lucy. Yes, I think something
like this one. It did not come off as.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
All right, okay, I gotta run ta, I gotta go.
I'm like, okay, girl, like do you not like it?
And you're not? I don't what's going on there.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
It was weird because like Lucy seemed very flirtatious out
of the parapet and stuff with him, and then when
she when he plants went on her, she was.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
All like, oh well, I gotta go, yeah, Lucy is
you know Lucy?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
So is Lucy? Lucy? Oh well, now everybody's being up
to eighty a turner mm.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Hmm, sunny, he's putting the moon was on her. I
love it. It's so funny. It's like every eighty a
except for Molly because they're related, right, right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
But my thing is is another dark hair brunettes height.
You know, I kind of think that that's what that
is one of his types. She's actually really good and obviously,
as you know, that's color roaches. Yeah, she showed up
on our show real briefly beautiful. I don't mind. I
don't mind. I don't mind. I don't mind them. On
some level, I'm I'm not like, well, okay, wait, well

(57:05):
wait before we okay, before we do all that. Kids,
it's this shady and you know, you guys all know
how much I love Carolyn Hennessy. That's my girl, and
it is my girl. She's a friend of the show.
She knows all of us know we love her. Wherever
that wig was I had on her this week. It's

(57:25):
a little much. It was overly. It was a weird
shade of red and it was like a helmet. And
I was like, come on to do my Caroline Carolyn
like that. Don't be doing her like that. I mean
to keep a little short hair. I wasn't a fan
of the hair this week. I'm sorry, it's a little
too much. For me, I was a little distracted as
she was trying to protect Michael and Sonny and the
whole thing that Joe was like, that hair is bothering me.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
That sometimes is an attorney's best weapon. James, here the hair.
Yeah hair.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I know that one of the one of our fans
hates Porsia's helmet hair. He says it all the times,
Eider her helmet curly hair. I'm like, that's your hair style,
that's what she does. Yeah, I don't know, but anyway,
her hair is buggering me this week. But Martin finding
gooseome balls. Oh yeah, yeah, finally I loved it. You oh,

(58:17):
because you was like, you know, you want to cuts
him out. He was like, uh, here's a pen gotta
do and he was like nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, I love Martin and I like that. This is
where it's coming to to where even Martin is like, uh,
I mean, Martin represented Valentine and he was even his
friend and he's a murderer. But Drew, you suck like.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Anybody, that's the thing, not really think about it.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, That's why I was like, sometimes the worst people
like Sarah Jessica Parker, here's the answer. To your question,
like sometimes the murderers are more likable than you like, okay,
like sometimes people hate Harry Bradshaw more than Barry Berkman.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
To lie, I did the end just like that?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
After show, Heller, how did you suffer through that show?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
They started, like, don't let me started. We were angry
at the end. We're angry so much. That's no story, Frank,
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Well, James, before we go, and I just need to know,
do you which theory do ascribe to you for? And
just like that that the creators made the decision to
end the show or HBO said like, yeah, we're good,
we're gonna we're canceling it. But you say that.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Warner Brothers like, because they were like, we're done with
this right.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Well, they even one of the main HBO and so
Jessica said, I'm trying to find a place for it.
So that tells me it wasn't them, it was it
was a higher ups. There you go, that's that's that's
that's more.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Victor Garber pooping is what you what you needed in
a show?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah it was, he was in that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
But why it went crazy? Why?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I know, hello, the original show you did what you
did to Kyle and now Victor. I mean, this is why,
this is why we hate you. Okay, like this is
not like because that was, I have even more reason
I hate the show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I'm a totally Aliens fan. That was my show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, come on the Hot Fire Star. I mean he
was professor Stein great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, so but anyway, that's not let's not show you guys.
You can hear all of ours on that on the end,
just like that after show here on jail Ja Media.
An actual side note the birthday, she's another after Buzzer
the show with me and so we had good time.
So we we we always it was so bad. It
was good for us. We had a great time talking

(01:00:56):
about it. It was like and under the Dome, which
I did at after my TV. It was so bad.
After a while, we love doing the show because it's
so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
You do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Wow, he gets it? Shots fired and that's right, okay. Anyway, Yeah,
he joined Maxie. I get that. I'm proud of Martin.
Say so, that's the thing. Laura's right, there was it
was Stella that he was and now but my thing is,
why are making Stella stupid?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah? I don't get why she would just talk to
them without a lawyer, Like that doesn't make sense for Stella,
she knows what's what?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, why would I Why would I get it
a journey? What would I Why would I check my work?
My god?

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I could you know what people are?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I don't really right, but she's like, I get you worse.
I'm like, yeah, man, fraud Ale. I just want to
say that. I'm sure because she was like she said
it's fraud, Like come on, girl, wake up, Like whyle
A're making her stupid? It's like, come on people, but it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Was only seven. It was only seven James, So I
mean I guess, yeah, that's not quite fraud, right, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Oh my god, one is too much and frong. And
but Curtis his vein of his bald head anti, you
messed it his anti.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I mean that needs to be done, is that Porsche
finally needs to just come clean with the hospital, Like
you need to take that power away from Drew because
that's yeah, sitting there so before Drew, you know, Curtis
can retaliate. He's got to eliminate that that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, we just have to eliminate Drew. I feel like
there's just no option for everybody with all of their problems, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Martin said, like I guess I have another one of
his enemies. We're just like, all right, yeah for who
who poison slash stabs, slash, shot, slash whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, just let it be everybody. I love.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I loved that idea handed it. I think there have
been a couple There are a couple of some mermists
whereas like one person did you some part and another
person came in and finished it. I feel like there
was like anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I can't be well, yeah, because it's like Tad did
bury doctor Madden speaking of Martin, like he buried him alive.
But I think there was a lot of other people
involved up to that point, because like we thought it
good to be Zick Dixie, we thought it could be Zach.
I'm trying to remember that was a very bad storyline
because of course Duke im D canaan was doctor Madden.

(01:03:20):
But so I try to block out a lot of that.
But yeah, I do feel like there was something there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Oh but yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
I'm just like millet Martin do it. Then we all know.
We know he kids how to bury a guy live.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Lara B says she was I just went away. Oh
my god, the chats fats Okay, she says, I love
Legends Tomorrow. I think it's where I saw Frank for
the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Oh it's a good shoe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah, there you go. I show that it had slid
one more season left in it, I think, so, I
think idea, the way they set it up there, I
think they could have really had a season. Finally they
would have Booster Gold. Yeah, that would have been a
lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I feel like this the Era verse, like, and I
do hope that people go revisit that because there's a
lot of good in it, especially with Crisis. But even
I kind of fell off after Crisis on Infinite Earth
where there was just so much going on and but
it really was like a nice sendoff for like Arrow
and then Yeah, I mean the way the Flash and

(01:04:25):
Legends kind of went off, like, I mean, they still
had a little bit in them. I think at certain points.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah, I feel like it's tough too with Crisis, like
reading more after the fact, like the past like six
months or so about that time. Just you know, actors contracts,
pay raise yea for doing all that stuff. I feel like, yeah,
that's kind of what ended up shooting Arrow in the
Arrow Verse in its foot. It's like to do you
when you went to when you set up to fans

(01:04:51):
that they can have these crossovers, but they fans aren't
aware of all they're like the practical realities of budgets. Yeah,
stuff like this is why you can't have it all
the time. Guys. Sorry, yeah, we just want it all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Just give it to us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah. I certainly like the way that d C is
going with the movies and the gun Verse and the
TV like little bits because with Creature Commando Peacemaker, like
you're not having to keep up with so much stuff,
but I do keep yelling people. Start with Suicide Squad
and then kind of Blue Beetle I think is going
to be Canyon too, which a lot of people didn't
see that, and it was good too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Yeah. Uh. Surprisingly, George Lopez was not as super annoying in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
That movie, so I liked him as my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Care to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
The Peacemaker episode one man, there's a sequence in there
if you're not that definitely catches you by surprise. Oh
it goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah, if you're not remembering that. This is James Gunn
and HBO Max. Uh, you might see some stuff, but
then you'll see some other stuff and it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
James watched it first episode. I think you'll see some
stuff you'll enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Oh really, people episode one, I said, watch it, Okay,
I watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I'm not gonna say any more for you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Just make sure you've seen Superman first so you understand
the justice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
So my mother and brother went and saw it. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna I like he said, My brother
j R. Question know him? Uh, he said, uh, he
didn't hate it. He didn't love it. It's between it
was okay with serviceable. He didn't need Crypto of the
Dog when it's okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Part of me just died. Dude, I saw it five
times in the theater, Like, how did you not see
it in the theater and it's still showing by.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
The way, I don't watch the theater. But he did that.
He went and he's a maister character of all time
Superman and that's his whole thing, all the Superman he
sees in the theater. But he says he really likes
the Superman. He think he does like him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Think, yeah, David's great, But I mean, it certainly wasn't
the reason I saw it five times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So yeah, so I so he says, so I'm gonna
watch it, so I'll watch that first, and I watched
right you guys away for the Nathan storyline. Okay, kids,
we'll get it. But so right now, as I said,
by the way, do you see Maxie passed out smilings?
Was a smiling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
She's Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah, she's already like I'm getting a break.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Tennessee. With side note, I just learned that's Prince. I
did not realize that they the rest of development that
Tennessee is from his song alf Bend Street. I did
not realize that he says going to Tennessee as he
says in the song, and Prince let them the song
come out, become a hit, then said I want some
money and then got somebody from him and knows it.

(01:07:57):
He said, you keep it on there. Tennessee is always
used a big Prince fanatic. I never knew that was
from that song. So I was like, that's very interesting.
The side notes with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Maxie, I will be curious to see how long we
see her in this coma and knowing that she has
taken or she's took time off until they go to Tennessee.
Do we do we have the recast that's been playing
here for a little bit, also come in to just
lay in that bed. What an easy day's work?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
How funny? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Or do we just go back to the cliche we
only see, you know, part of her body and the
rest of us covered by a monitor.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, I think they'll just do a body double, because
I mean what they are notoriously cheap. That's why the
Joe's stole.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
There girl, I got that. They got that pool to
pay for that pool. Cheryl Stevens brings us up, and
that is it's also a part of the storyline. It
was cute seeing Molly and Michael to their cousins about Cody,
and She's happy these little side I have to say.

(01:09:07):
So that's a little cheese when sometimes but I'm kind
of liking it. I don't know why. I'm kind I'm
kind of warming up to this little fantasy world as
she's creating with her characters. You saw the name and Delilah. Yeah,
that's awesome. I know, I know, I like I like winks,

(01:09:30):
so I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I like and scared I'm done with it. I don't
need to see a reenactment of her story. I never
need to even hear her writing about her story. She
can just have written everything off camera and it can
be a huge success. I am totally fond of that.
But no need to see anybody acting out her story.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
But they have horse budget. I have a horse budget, Ran,
Like I said, I know enough for that snappy stuff. Oh,
high Port misery. Our friends at Port Misery, thirsty for
it is a choice, that's funny. I thought it was
just kind of cute and it's just like this, I
like this, Molly, we love this. Michael obviously like yeah

(01:10:14):
he's great. Yeah, we want to show where gipsy is great.
So I thought that was kind of cute to have
little cousins talk about this. Give usbody being talk about.
And then Cody and her. But Cody and Ape, I'm
sorry that seat in the barn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah they have chemistry too. I can they just evil couple.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
You're not dumb, they're playing her not dumb. Yeah you
knew that. No, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
And they pretty much say everything they need to accept. Oh,
Christina was paying me that, Like that's just like the
one plugget that doesn't quite get out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
But otherwise he's upfront with hers like, yeah, that was
kind of gaming you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
But she's like, like, I knew it. She got a
coach guy. I didn't mind. She's like, I kind of
mine she I was having fun. I'm like, I see chemistry.
I do see chemistry, Like this is really interesting. So
I try and go between Ava and Molly and him.
That'd be kind of funny. Yes, I'll take it. Yeah,
I mean, you know, anyway, and then you got Jade,

(01:11:15):
you got Tracy on the side, who their scenes together
are gold also. I mean just Cody and Tracy are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Just like, Tracy is great with everybody, But am I
the only one shipping Tracy and Martin. I feel like
they would be an awesome people because how much they
hate each other, and uh, it would be hilarious because
he's Laura's brother. I feel like that's where this whole, Like,
once Strew's done, that's where we're going.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I hope. So because they both, Martin deserves have more
on the show to do, Like I uh, seeing him
with Finn's dad, Gregory, I really like that was another
relationship that got cut way too short as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yes, yeah, I never understood why they just never went there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
I agree. We thought Gregory Hairson was a great leading
man for that age group. He's really good looking. Here
the Lexus had chemistry. Him and Tracy had chemistry. I
thought that could be a cute little triangle. They didn't
go there. They decided to kill him off. Cody in
the preview taels Molly. It was Christina's idea. Also, he
does tell against the pretails her.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Well what does he tell? Ah? But you know, if
the show really wants to do it, then like save
like that Thanksgiving episode, the whole episode of just Molly's book,
and we can have everybody just pay act. All these
different characters are there and I can skip that day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
That's the freak, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I love she said.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
My thing, so here's my thing. I think they do
love those kind of episodes, though, Frank So you might
get one. They love those. That's how he win Emmys
with special episodes. Sean already has those cards. I think
she can trolled Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Oh, well, that would mean more to me if we
saw Charlotte. Yeah, we made such a big deal about
getting her back and we have not seen her since
she's returned. That's it's so true.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We kind of forgot that she was back with and
I was like, oh wait, Charlotte is there. Yes, it's like, wow,
we forgot because it's all that about Rocco, Roco Rocco,
and maybe that's Charlotte sick. It's like, ah, you made
such a big deal about getting me away from my dad,
who's like cool, and we were on an adventure, but
now it's like Rocco is Rocco that, and you don't

(01:13:34):
even like you anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Now it's it's kind of cool, though. Everybody's trying to
tell like Geo and them. You know, come on, folks,
your parents are good people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, Brooklyn and Dante are good people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
I said, oh, she had the cars, but she didn't
realize it. But still, Franks, thing still stands. You don't
see her, that'd be great. Is just working with Victor
I father, granddaughter. I take it. Yeah, I totally get
to Valentine was Dune also we start on that either. Yeah,

(01:14:11):
we grew to like him. We grew to like Valentine's
another one of those people prepared with anybody, great scenes everywhere,
a kind of an ify character and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Yeah, and I don't know, I mean I know he
had that show the Disney Channel, but that guy can't
sell So it's like, why why not? Yeah, unless it
was his choice that he was just wanted to do
something different.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
It could be his choice. I have my I think
it's folks at home. Is he did he leave California.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Port, isn't he?

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of people have left. So that's
some of it. But I mean they've been working around
a lot of people live in Tennessee and about it.
I mean, Kathleen Gotti, I think lives in Arizona. I mean, oh,
it's not the way. I mean the way that they
can schedule and tape and you know, you can work around,
especially with the storylines. You have so many people you

(01:15:01):
can you can figure it out if you really got
something meaty, I guess for people.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
That's why I feel to feel like the Jonathan Jackson
thing could have worked, like all these like other commitments,
you could have just write righted, smaller more focused storylines
with him, they like just come on like every like
six weeks out of a year, just come in and
do a story and then duck out again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
But yeah, like I mean they did that with Anthony
Gary for so long, and Finola's had similar situations like so,
I mean that's how days.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Is done, like but I don't know, so yeah, okay,
So here's the thing we have with this sceptions go
there for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
We have this outstanding thing happened with the dirty money.
Maxie was going to start something, but now she's like como,
So I guess that's what's be quiet for a while
about that. Sidwell as Carol mancying Lucy kind of planned,
but his plans from Michael and Will are starting to
really dry up because all this stuff starting to happen,

(01:16:06):
and Trew thing didn't work out obviously you didn get
his thing, and Will Cuckoo and Michael like this species
not being being my kids, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I like bees about Drew going to Sidwell's place and
just like really braggadociously telling yeah, this great thing that's happened,
and they're like really.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Because I even like my Marco talking to him like
he's a child. Basically, I'm like, yeah, dude, because you're crazy,
Like you're both kind of insane, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yes, uh, all right, hold on a second, Tony Moore,
you're on the airs. Hell ups to gh fans, Hello,
fans watch our lives on Peacock every Monday Friday. Say
hi the CIA Lion. Who's on here? I anyway? So

(01:17:03):
you're calling drops doing a show right now? You always
I'm doing a show. I'm doing a show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Ain't that much stuff to talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Show?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Think hello Tony Moore In the chat, they're all saying
Tony in the chap well, yes, so well after I've
done to go do your show and then we'll talk
after that. I think Sonny did. That's just take folks

(01:17:44):
at the hot take everybody, hot take, everybody, say bye
to Tony more. Tony Moore, Bye, you can go to hell.
He said, you can go to hell, but your husband,
Josh Kelly can't just do Oh no, my hook, you can't.
Oh he does no wrong, he does no wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
We all love him, Lucretia, dude, love johns Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Not too much, not too much?

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
By Tony Moore.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
See who's gonna call the showy? Hi, Peter, welcome to show.
There's different Peter, Peter Corbyn.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yeah, just don't say it a third time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I don't show up. He'll show up, right, he'll show up.
By Tony, This is just are so blocked what we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
The deception stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Oh yeah, but also the fact that Drew comes in.
He crazy talk and I love that. Sidwell's like, yeah,
he might be a problem someday too. So this is
and I'll work with therapy. They have their own agenda.
So it's kind of like you may become a little
tea loose cannon. That's say that loose cares like he's
a loose cannon. And so Sidwell's very methodically could tell

(01:19:09):
he's very much like he'll fly off the hand all
except when Marlo got hurt, he was upset about that,
but he didn't fly out the hand all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
So, and he's all and we know he's all about
if he can frame somebody else, he will, So like
wu pinning pinning.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
The fire on her, Yeah, like the dagger like maybe
that does come back into play any frames. Alexis, because
of course she would want to kill Drew. He's trying
to keep her away from her granddaughter.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
You know that's good too. And will korban how many
corporates are in this chat room? You guys are related?
Going on? Folks, you trying to go crazy? Going on? Yeah,
Alexis Alexis. You think about Lexis has sway things going
on right now. It's like funny and they was like,

(01:19:57):
or time, and Rick's like, just one more time. I'm like,
oh my god, some's coming up with that to you,
something's gonna Yeah, that's a little They both say one
more time. That's it. And here's my problem with Rick
Elizabeth love them together, of course, mainly Rick's to your averybody.
So that's a type side of the point. Rick Hurst

(01:20:18):
is a national treasure, we got it. But because of
what he did with Carly Allos years ago, and this
was part was like, I don't think they could be together.
I think I think I think it's just too late.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Yeah, like I said, with Liz and Jason, where they
are now makes sense. With her and Rick, even though
Rick is a lot better than he was, it's still
just like it doesn't really make sense. And I feel
like they just didn't know what to do and push,
you know, when they brought brit back and put Jason
with her obviously and we're going a different direction. But yeah,

(01:20:52):
it's like, what do we do with Elizabeth?

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Right? Well, they don't to do with Elizabeth. That's the problem.
Frank and I have been screwing us from for years,
just kind of dol fin fiasco was just like tired.
That was painful.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I love Michael, but they just wasted him. And the
way that they ended that whole thing was just like okay,
like again, you know, Frank, you didn't do right by
Michael and Roger and I don't like that. Not you, Frank,
another Frank, Like not this Frank, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
We love li O here thing. They have a question
for you, Crecia. Oh yeah, we didn't find that. We
don't know, yeah, we don't know. What do you think
about this? Christina?

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I like her, like I was honestly a bigger Marci
fan is Abby, but I feel like I think that
she's great. It's Christina and just kind of fit. I
feel like this Christina and Molly once they kind of
got that dynamic after like the upte Molly uh, it
was like okay, this works. This this is the Davis

(01:21:56):
girls we have now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Yeah, what do you think about killing Sam?

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
It's funny For all the times I wanted her to
die at this point, I would definitely take Sam over Lulu,
So I like it is funny. It's like, yeah, know,
like because how do. I say, the character kind of
just became there and like, you know, a driver of story,
so you didn't really hate her. It's sort of like

(01:22:23):
when they did eventually kill off Babe, and it was
like the recast like Amanda on All My Children at
that point, you didn't really feel like they needed to.
I mean, but I do get it drove so much story,
and they at least gave her a good ending that
you know, prompt in a lot of stuff. But yeah,
I would have taken Sam over this Lulu.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Wow, Okay, drop it all kind of stuff these days
like a shade.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
It's like, I'm sorry, that's the character is so obnoxious.
I'm like, I shouldn't hate Luke and Laura's daughter, but
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Matt Ryder says what I always say, I'd want Sam
but played by Lindsay Hartley. Me too, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
She was great.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
He was good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Long sir, what was that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Says? Sam was a prop at the end?

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Uh sort of? I mean like because like even like
with the Cybers storyline, that was one that just fell
apart as well. Yeah, that character is really mishandled for
a long time, and then the way they just rushed
him out with this killer Seria killer storyline was the Pits.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah, we should have had more time with that because
Jeff would have been great, like with a lot more
and same thing with them sort of setting it up,
like but I feel like they kind of rushed it.
But at least it's set up the WSB stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
But yeah, joined Lucretia's take on the show so hilarious.
A Creatia's laugh is iconic, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
We like that iconic, like Ursula apparently I love.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Some folks are bringing up Nicholas and Liz.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeah, if they brought Nicholas back, I mean again, I
triangle with Ava and Nicholas and Elizabeth would be more
interesting because to me, Rick and Ava just sort of
fit is a couple. The triangle has kind of not
worked for this, but if it was that that would have.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Yeah, so Sitiation seemed to know to write a legitimate
murder mystery anymore. Yeah, well, I think they're trying to
lead up to one right now. I think I think
it's who stabbed JR. Sationally think everyone I think who doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Hate, Yeah, everybody hates true because even Scout, his own
daughter is getting tired of his crap, Like it's like, no,
I want to be with my brothers and my family.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Monica the last thing before she dies, so she's she's
she kills him and then she died and then they
can always just later pined on Monica. It's like, oh yeah,
Monica killed her. That was her last act.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
I mean, did a good ending.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Yeah, it's just it's just okay, what have we missed? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Miss any what do we catch him?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
No, I mean because it was basically Jason is trying
to get Rid to come home and she's not coming.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
She's not you know, I mean we do get to
see uh you know, Jocelyn have her a little flashback
from killing Cyrus, but she kills he kills the assassin
coming to get on and yeah a little special shower
love sh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Spy stuff. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
My thing is and yes, and Jason is is mister Moore,
we get it, Susan Moore get Yeah. I don't mind
Wes like weeks and am I saying his dressing that
way reminds him of if he was a quartermain so
to speak. I thing, I'm Morgan, I don't know, I
just that guy passed on my nerves. I want to.
I want to shoot him to my nerves.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
His outfit is like this kind of like it is
like super like Jama just like you just you're you're
running this hotel, but just like you just want to
take a nap. As why.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
I was like those pants and I'm like, what the
fun is he wearing? I'm all and you know, I
don't know. I know it's been divided a lot of folks.
I'm gonna be the WSBH and not Joss. So I'm
saiding what Emma and Josh broke together, which I wouldn't
mind that also, but I'm just not buying Joss at WSBH.
I'm just not buying it. It's not it's not it

(01:26:46):
doesn't And again, I love eating, but it just doesn't
fit for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Uh Yeah, I feel like we need to get the
next the next step. I mean, I'm glad that they've
they've gotten Britt and Jason together so quickly. This and
even Jocelyn seeing Britt so quickly. Yeah, now, I just
needed to know, like who he is, even if the
audience doesn't know who him is, like it'd be great
or the characters don't know if the audience could do

(01:27:13):
at least would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I feel like they drag stuff out because they don't know.
Sometimes too, it's like we're filming it because we've got
the film stuff. But there are plenty of times because
I mean, how many times did they change it to
him to her, like with several other like characters that
were then later revealed.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Yeah Pikeman, everybody's yeah, then he oh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
No, we should never say that word ever again either. Pikeman.
Oh painful, And we still almost like that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
And then and then uh, you know we had uh
uh the busp guy fixing Carly sync bobbies. Oh thanks
bringing that rest over.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
I mean, Chris McKenna has more chemistry with Anna than
he does Carly, and it is interesting because and I
feel like they've been kind of testing that more with him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
It is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Yeah, Charl's measure was so great, and so I feel
that holding him to that. But I buy Chris mckennimore
as a WSP agent than I do with him in
the relationship between him and Carly. And I just don't
know if it's because the chemistry' is there not there,
or they just haven't put enough effort into the story
with it, because there's hardly any scenes efver.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
With those two.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Yeah, they're and they're just a little awkward, like and
that's just what I noticed, is like it's the chemistry
isn't there as opposed to with Charles it was with her.
But I do feel like Chris is great. I mean
I liked him and a lot of other things like
why on are Lucifer and you know he was even
Joey on One Life to Live? But yeah, it's like
he's great. I feel like he works with the cast,

(01:28:56):
just their relationship. I just don't know what they're gonna
do with Carly though, because they've really set this up.
But what do you do when she's you know, gonna
find out about Joscelyn.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Yeah, it feels like one of those cases where it's
going to be more important to the characters in the
show than the audience, Like Carl probably more, but like
as an audience member, I'm not gonna care.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, so like she had to make be care too,
and maybe Carly single for once in her life, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
So Kardi could could dump on him and the audience
about b Jay's hart. Jason got read down by Britt
l o L. Britt hasn't said, how to survived's attack. Yes,
but well here here is Jane, doctor James Lot junior

(01:29:51):
foreign nurse. But I'm allowing it because it's dramatic. License everybody.
You're absolutely correct, how disease is not going remissions, just
thinking it's going remission and that's that's a that's a myth.
But we're going to let it go because we want
she's back. So want to all let that go. Shows
all the time play around with illnesses sometimes, so I

(01:30:13):
can forgive that part.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
If we can believe the mask bullshit, we can believe
something and secured.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah about that, but I'm like, that's I'm not gonna
who I'm gonna die on that hill. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Do not ever trust the soap opera any sort of
you know, realition.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
They come up with the dead people that dead. I
did once I got once I did so. I said
I was dead last year, Mary Frank, I said I
was dead. I don't remember that I said I was dead.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
That's like twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Same thing, you're dead inside. No, I so I died
on Facebook and so it was like a whole big thing.
So I was like I came back from the dad.
Everybody I'm not Dad, it's here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Yeah, Like, once you open up a world, you know
that the tesco realism within the genre that people come
back from the dead, they really should not. We should
really reduce the amount of people that are so incredulous
that somebody could possibly come back from the dead. Like,
get out of here. How many I could list you
ten people in this town that have already come back
from the dead. Why are you so resistant to this one?

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, because I at least like with Jason and britt
they didn't do it was just like, oh, yeah, you survived,
so did you Like they didn't know Oh my god. No,
it's just like, oh, hey, here's a question, like how
like yeah, like clearly we're both like back from the dead.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Well, there's a whole scene a young and restless between
Michelle Stafford and Susan Walters, both their characters came back
from the dead. She goes, well, when you came back
from the dad, he goes, Look who's talking? When you
came back from the Dad? He goes, Michael, I couldn't
stop laughing. Like you tell that they can find the dialogue.
It's kind of like just it's crazy. So it's kind
of fun. It's not taking me out of the story.

(01:32:06):
I just think they could have given her a terminal
soap disease that's easy to cure. I'm like they gave
her that as a way to sappear her. Now they
don't want Well, here's the import misery. Here's the deal.
Homegirl thought she be making some big strides and putting
in primetime TV. It didn't happen. That's what happened. She
was like, kill me off, she said, kill me off.
She she did. That's the whole thing. Killed me off.

(01:32:27):
I'm good. I'm going to Station nineteen. That gets canceled
before it even begins again. And she moved to Europe.
Things that didn't happen for her there, so she's back.
She asked for her job back. That was that. That's
not a secret. She asked her job back. So they're
trying to play it off now they really did kill
her off. I mean they were. She was gon be gone,

(01:32:47):
so but you should never say never, and soap planned, so.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
No reason to bring those those day ten bridges.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
She had've be careful that Get me careful, right, Get
me careful because you might be back on day time
or as thirsty Bryan k Craig is doing Nobody wants.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
A bat You want him back?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
No, I'm good, exactly is Dad? He's dead Dad, That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I mean that's such a big thing, Morgan's death and
it's brought up all the time. It would be a
shame too. It's like Kiki. I love Haley Aaron and
I'm glad she's doing well on Y and R. But
we don't need kiky Bag either, for the same reason.
It was too big of a death. It could, you know,
caused so many different things to happen that we just

(01:33:34):
need to leave it be.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Yes, exactly, I leave it alone. But some folks are
really campaigning to get on. But with Home Girl, you know,
you know this is shady Sunday. So it's all it's
all out there. I'm not likeking nothing up. It's all
out there for you see. But yeah, I think Eagle's
not come back at all. Because when you sue a company,

(01:33:58):
the steep bird did the correct one. He suddenly went off,
didn't run, his mouth, got hooked on, got hit on days,
did that for a couple of years. The mandate lift.
It came right on back.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
That's how That's how you do a kid's He was
a classy guy and he was easy to work with.
Then you know he did the right thing for him, right, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Saying it's all things like guys. Some people like working
with him, I know. See Bernie is a very funny guy,
nice guy. They like working with him. And now he's nobody.
He's backs to be the number three guy on the show.
That's the call. She he's like number three. So he
did it correctly. Ingo has not done it correctly. So
it's basically just like Victoria Rowell. We love her. She

(01:34:42):
ain't going back and she tried to see a whole company.
She tried to shoe Sony. You don't you don't came
on that show. That's how happened. So yeah, well yeah,
yeah he's on both men too. Yeah he just said
yeah he Ingo, I mean, good actor, but just he
has issues no one's to work with, so that will
not be happening. But yes, rit originally she was killed

(01:35:05):
and they gave her a disease that normally would have
been like abye, that's it. But now I'm trying to
play it off. So that's why it's kind of comical for.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Some of us.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Well, and to be fair, doctor Olbric and Faison, I
mean being her parents. I mean, there is at least
some plausibility that we can see that she's gond, you know,
that they could have found a cure, like you know what.
She knows all these people based on those being her parents,
and that's why it's easy to believe she was kept
alive because I'm surprised Olbrick doesn't know, but who knows.

(01:35:35):
Maybe she's lying too, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Your too, Yeah, I mean, but she's actly she doesn't know,
but I think she might know. If she doesn't, either way,
it'll be good reunion with that. But that's the point.
She was on the run with Faison for a years.
I think you're bringing that up. Grit is no dummy.
That's kind of the thing. She's not a dummy. She's
been out there for years, so she maining.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I think I did like her listening into Gretchen and
Jason chatting and then he just changes outfit and goes
right to his room, like, oh all right. She was
not liking that, But I'm gonna dress up first before
I come back and dress you down again.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Well doing that, ah, yeah, that's important.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Yeah, exactly what do that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Is everything you guys, Yeah, I mean, I mean Jescelyn's
seen Jason now that the resource that has anything to
do with it anything.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
So I was I have a statement from lady. Oh
oh I know, let's see where you go. Oh my god,
I'm so sorry. She works over nights apparently, I guess
I was seven am. I fell asleep a little after you. Yeah,
with her time in Florida, I forgot to set my

(01:37:03):
law before going down. I'm so sorry. So we're gonna
fight her on the show. Still, I still want to
come on, so I'll find out another Sunday. And so
we had this great time with the creature. We had
a great time with her. She did the whole show
with what I didn't expect to the whole show with us,
shocked us a few of her changes. Wow, like that's
just obviously that and eighty people were watching us at

(01:37:26):
one point eighty people. So because of you get back, yeah,
freaking old time. We're done.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Her stance on a sunny yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, what she loves saying. So we're gonna
I'm gonna fight her on We're off. Next week is
Labor Day weekend. I ain't doing ship. So the following week,
September seventh, were back and the soap Block has a
new edition. Cannie back and a man of Russell be
doing the Beyond the Gates after show that at nine

(01:38:01):
am Pacific twelve noon Eastern, starting September seventh, I will
be God voice the moose that I will may say
a few ideas, a few things, but they will be
doing it. So we're gonna try it out. So that's
joining our sublock. So that's when we're starting on September seventh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
I can't imagine you just only being God. Yeah, come on, James, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
The role I was born to play. So that's happening.
So we got Beyond the Gates why and are all
in the beautiful GH. There it is kids. If you
want to see the ribbon cutting ceremony from the Boude
Bugle Studios, check out boone before rewind. It's out today.

(01:38:49):
Thank you, Lucretia, thanks for coming on. It was I'm
just I'm just for our anniversary and thanks for being
a part of the history of this whole GH. What
of her recap shit?

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Thank you Yeah, thank you guys for having me. It
was nice to reminisce.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
The g H Mini recap ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yeah, recap sh Yeah, there's one way together were report
Spotley j recap shit. That's that's how you feel. That's it, folks.
Oh and oh and folks, there's a shady Sunday before
I go, because maybe we're like, well, what about conor Ornata.

(01:39:37):
So I have reached out to her several times in
several different ways, and I and as the kids say,
I've been left on Red. So I don't mean she's
always wanting to call on the show. I want to
celebrate her too, because she was a very important part.
After we left me, Lacretia left her and free continue

(01:39:57):
the show for a few years. And I don't know
what's going on. Maybe she's just super busy getting big
guests from her own show. Maybe she's busy on science.
But either way, I've not received any responses. So as
you know, I did reach out. I didn't leave anybody out.
I reached out to anybody who's important to this the
history of the show. So I don't know to tell

(01:40:20):
you guys that you know, maybe you'll see her the
next couple of weeks, maybe you won't. So by way,
by myself asking me. I did ask several times, several
different ways, so you know I did ask. I did that.
I would never leave her out of course, I.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Asked, Carlo is a delight and it would be great
to see her.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
It would be great to see her, she answered my messages. Okay,
So that's what's happening there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
And the upcoming comedy shows or anything that people that
are in the LA area keep check out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Uh no, not anything on the calendar right now. But
you yes, guys, since I'm Lacretia Lion, you can always
find me at l A c R E T I
A L y O N anywhere on the internet, since
there is only one that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Will always be I always, always, always always, Oh my god,
I love that. And Frank, what are gonna do? We're
gonna tell me what esquecially they follow if they want to. Uh,
I'm just done.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Happy go Jackie. That's it. Yes, there you go, and
everybody wen you get now and shut it. It's here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Oh there it is. It is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
You can have this in your own little hands. Check
out all this incredible art by a lot of incredibly
talented people for the first season of X Men ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Wow, congratulations Frank, it's his wagon to him.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Yeah, he crossed.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
But you guys finished season two already, it's already in
the can, right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
I got a little thirsty right now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Yeah, I saw you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Yeah, I was like, I've heard a little bit about
the drama.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I can't say to you. Yeah, I don't want to
lose his job, not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
No, hopefully a year, by a year from now, he'll
be treated. It'll be on people's eyeballs at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
There you go, there we go, they'll take a friend,
take a rats. Frank, well, you know, find me and
and I did talk to her. It was her birthday.
It was it was Alexus Torus' birthday where I stole
Happily you can find we're all James just sold at
James Loud Junior and all social media platforms. She's doing great, funks.
She's doing great in Philadelphia. So where's her now wife? Natalie?

(01:42:43):
So yes, he was her husband. Now it's her wife.
But they're very happy. So I love it. It's been
ten years. I know you guys are ten ye, I know, Lacretias,
they have been ten years. Frank did better than the MCU,
and people are salty there is there. You go, all right,
I have to come back. More said to you. Samanthas

(01:43:05):
says that make more often. She has a life, She
has things going on, rappy. She came today for us,
a nice treat. Folks. We'll see you in two weeks.
So whether you are in heat or in hurricanes, please
be careful.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Yes, Alexis was a great house too. She was a
great house. I will talk to you guys next time.
We'll talk. We'll be afraid to talk to you next time.
If you're lucky,
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