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Hi, and welcome back to giveus more nave. I'm Megan and it's
our first episode of twenty twenty three. Okay, listen. We said we
weren't going to kick off, andthen we had like a few scatchuling conflicts
of times and dates of when wecould record and stop lying, and then
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I just tell them that when Icame home, you punched me right in
my face. You saw me andyou punched me, and then you kicked
me in my vagina. Sweetie,you've been throwing off this Christmas. You
did not need a punch in theface from me. I got a punch
in the face from God. Hesaid, you've been living in sin.
Fucking dare you we laugh? Becauseif we don't walk right. Megan came
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home for Christmas and her brother gotCOVID, and then her dog died of
fourteen years yet rest in peace,nearly my baby, and then her mother
went to hospital. Hmm. I'monly laughing because, like we weren't joking
about the punch in the face ofGod. And then to top it all
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off, the cherry on top ofthe fucking shit cake. I got sick,
violently fever over forty degrees sick andI got to see me once,
literally one time once. It's great, And it was like two days before
I went home. Yeah, no, it was. We had some we
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were supposed sorry, that's my phonetelling me to go to bed. We
were supposed to record, and thenMegan's microphone decided to and then I came
home and I moved. So wewere planning on moving before he even left
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Malta, before Christmas. And theway that it ended up was that we
hadn't even really stepped foot into anew apartment. So the day that we
flew back home, we are walkinginto an apartment that was completely unpacked.
Had our stuff in it, butit was completely unpacked, like there wasn't
even a sheet on the bed,nothing. So yeah, Megan's just been
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doing that. So in other news, I got a shelf for my child's
toys. That's what I've been doing. I saw it. I love it.
It's behind me. Hold on,I'll move you so you can see
it for a quick minute. Ilove the way there is a human sized
Teddy Bear beside me and the shelfis iconic. I absolutely love it.
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It's like so beautiful. It wasneeded. She has too many toys that's
too old children never no such thing. Yeah, So we're back now,
guys, and we're sorry about that. We didn't take as long as last
year. You know what I was. I was sitting on the toilet earlier
and I was thinking, we havetaken so many long breaks. But we're
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like mold. You literally cannot killus. We are at the black growing
mold in the corner of your bathroomthat you can't kill. You want to
get rid of us, but youcan't get rid of us. So how
about that? So myself and Iwe are not part of animals. We
don't go it at the weekend.Usually I'm at home either playing Sims or
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starting Valley, which I can adjustto that, or watching movies or just
being doing stupid shit. So we'vedecided to watch better movies with our time.
We watched last week Meet Joe Black. Have you seen it? It
sounds familiar, but I can't remember. It's Brad Pitt as death. Yeah,
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and I've never liked Brad Pitt before, but I don't know. That
awakened something in my loins and inthat movie, and he's death like that
that should not be a thing,but it is so I just wanted to
announce that to the world. Andwe watched Benjamin Button like two nights ago,
and he's in that too, andI was like, ah, yeah,
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so it's literally justin met Joe Black. We watched the Bansheese of Innish
hearing Is it good? I thoroughlyenjoyed it and so did Call. So
what's what's the vibe? It's likerural Ireland or laural. Yeah, it's
rural Ireland. There's like so manyclips that like you're just like that is
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exactly what it's like being in asmall town. You're like, they told
no lies and even the way likeI went, the way they talk and
everything, it's just yeah, Ithoroughly enjoyed it. It's not like it's
like the premise of the movie isthat Brendan Gleeson no longer wants to be
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friends with Colin Farrell and then likethat's right, and then it's just like
it goes from there and like,so Colin Farrell is like, why don't
you want to be friends with me? I take it they're grown men.
Yeah, grown men, you're not. But it's my birthday party. I
don't want to be a friend anymore. But it's I thoroughly liked it because
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it's very funny. There are veryfunny scenes in it, and I don't
know, like, I don't knowif you'd find them funny if you were
an American or not, or youknow, like if you were from like
me and call find them funny becauseit's like spot on, yeah, relatable.
But then it's also like they're supposedto be that whole discussion of like
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low loneliness, loneliness, loneliness,thank you, Why can't I talk and
like depression, like they're supposed tobe the thought of like that in there.
I'm like, oh God, like, yeah, how would you feel
if, like one day your friendjust doesn't want to be friends with you
anymore? Well, I felt thatwhen you put me in the face and
kicking me into vagina. Please don'tspread that around. It's like I'm gonna
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get hate in the discord now orsomething that mean, like why'd you puncture?
Her? Dog died and you punchedher. I didn't actually puncture you,
guys, stop sucking Lyne. Speakingof, if you want to join
our discord, just let us knowbecause we have to send you an invite.
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Actually, no, I made aninvite link that doesn't expire, but
I haven't sent it anywhere, SoI'll put that on our Instagram story and
then put it in our hearts oryou can find it so you can join
our discord fun. I mean,I'm not great in there. I won't
lie, but you know, whenI do okay on a real level,
I get super overwhelmed when it comesto social media, even my own personal
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social media, like texting people backand stuff. So when it comes to
stuff forgive us more. I tryto push a little bit more. But
I'm so bad at it. I'mjust really fucking bad at it. But
you know, join in. Thereare plenty of people, plenty of there's
like four people in there, butthey're all really cool people. And we
do occasionally chatting there. Yeah,we do occasionally occasionally. And one last
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thing I want to say, moviewise, we watched American Beauty last night.
Did you see that? Yeah,it's a classic. That was our
first time I ever watching it.Your man in it, Kevin Spacey.
His name is Leicester, and Ijust thought it was really funny because now
he's known as a molester, sohe was at one stage Leicester the molester.
Yeah, well he's Leicester the molesterin the movie as well a girl.
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But now turns saying he's that inreal life. Yeah, are imitating
life? What? I just thoughtit was fucked up? Oh yeah,
it's a but it's a good movie. The neighbor, the recording guy,
I was like, who is he? Who is he? I know him?
Where is he from? And hekind of looks at little bit like
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a werewolf. He's the detective inAmerican horror story Hotel? Is he?
Yeah, the guy that lives inthe hotel. My brain is like,
mind blown. I did not knowthat when he am the bit where he's
it's like a plastic bag in thewind. Oh my god, I've never
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realized that that's where that scene comesfrom. All I can think of now
is do you ever feel like aplastic bag? So we watched that last
night and then we got into bedand we like to have a little wine
down after all of our movie watching, you know. So we put on
a Family for Her Life and afamily guy had taken the piss out of
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American American Psycho No American Beauty inone of their episodes, and they got
Chris Hamson to show up in theepisode. I was like, yes,
thank you. Finally somebody's fucking sayingit snaps and claps. Yeah, I'm
gonna turn off my heating because she'smaking noise. Excuse me, all right,
So tell me what have you gotfor me this week? This week,
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I have got Louise Pete for you. You've told me a little bit
about her, and I'm curious.Yeah, she's um many to make it
work. Yeah, pretty much.Um so, I guess I'll just like
a dad write in, wait,can you do the podcast her vocal for
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I? Please? Okay, wejust watched this episode of Simpsons and they
were talking about true crime podcasts andthey were taking the piss out of the
vocal fry that like every podcaster has. So hi, such a guy.
We're talking about Louise pay. Don'tworry, I will ever talk like that
again. Thank you. So.Loffe Louise press Star was born on September
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twentieth, eighteen eighty in Benville,Louisiana. She went by Louise instead of
Lofi because yeah, I was like, what the fuck is LOFFI? Lofi
Lofi? It's like a form ofmusic now, But I'm sure it wasn't.
Back in eighteen eighty, Louise camefrom a really good background and her
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parents actually tried to give her thebest start in life, and she was
sent to some of the best privateschools. At the age of fifteen,
however, Louise was expelled from herschool for for stealing from her classmates as
well as quote promiscuous behavior. Ohokay, so the stealing people with money,
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Sorry for stealing from her classmates andpromise, not the promiscuous behavior.
Okay, No, why is itthat the people with money and the people
with like good backgrounds. I'm notsaying I know that she has like tons
and tons of money, but she'sin private school back in eighteen eighty,
Okay, so we can probably assumeshe has enough to go around. Why
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do people with money field and needto fucking steal from others? Yeah,
but what is that? I reallyI don't know, because it was like
it's the eighteen eighty well by thetime she was fifteen, it was like
eighteen ninety five. But still there'snot loads about her background. I just
got that basically she her family likeweren't the richest, but like they didn't
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struggle up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were what are you
stealing from your classmates in eighteen eightyfive or eighteen ninety five the hoop and
stick probably Wait was that your fridge? Yeah? I don't want that to
end, just for podcast reasons becauseit's so creepy and I love it adds
to the to the mood. Ohand there goes again. So she has
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a lot to say. She's like, oh my god, no way behavior.
She's basically our co host. She'sthe third co host Trion now so
um, yeah, she was basicallyexpelled. So she had no other option
but to move back home because youknow, expelled m h. In nineteen
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o three, Louise met a travelingsalesman called Henry Bosley. Pair wasted no
time and soon were married, andLouise began traveling with Henry for his work.
In nineteen oh six, the pairhad been living in Dallas, Texas.
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One evening, Henry arrived home fromwork to find Louise in bed with
a local oil man. You meanto tell me that she was displaying for
miscuous behavior again, but the misculousbehave because nowhere. Henry was devastated,
and two days later he committed suicidethat went from like zero to one hundred
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real fast, real quick. Shemust have some pussy magic or something,
because honey, honey, are yougetting men to fucking kill themselves over like
Angela in the office when the twoof them are fighting, Dwight and Andy,
you're fighting over her? Yeah,yeah, yeah. Louise sold all
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of Henry's belongings, like pretty muchstraight away so that she could move to
Shrevenport Shrevettport, Louisiana. She thenbegan working as a prostitute because she decided
she wanted to move to Boston innineteen eleven. She wanted to make a
bit and I'm like three sorry.Louise began seeing some of the local rich
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men as her clients when she wasin Boston being a hooker. She's a
high class kind of gal. She'slike, only if you've got money,
well, prostitution would you gotta do? She would go around to their homes
and while she would be left unattended, she would steal their wives jewelry in
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order to lawn shops. Why areyou leaving your prostitute unattended in your home?
Why you gotta be or something?Or like she'd be like oh,
I just have to go to thetoilet real quick freshen up, and then
you know we're just like rummage.I just have to go bleach my vagina
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real quick because it's like the earlynineteen hundreds and we don't know about badge
as yet, so br b.Yeah, So she stole from their wives
jewelry in order to sell at paunchopsfor like extra cash, get it.
Louise eventually got caught, no,and like scattered real quick before she could
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be arrested. I'm pretty sure itwas a wife caught her and was like
get that fuck out before I actuallystab you, you dumb bitch. No
way, Oh not the wife,imagine. So Louise then started to pretend
that she was a heiress, anheiress who was forced to run away from
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home. She you know what,I got a hand it to her.
She has reinvented herself already, liketwice, three times her third time.
Yeah, and like she's not merelylike twenty at this point, well,
like she's basically almost dead back inthose days. You know, well,
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one coffin, she's gone. SoLouise convinced a family to take her in,
and she began stealing from this familyand then their friends as well.
She then began buying some some thingsfrom some of the most expensive shops in
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the town, and she was chargingit to the family's account. No way,
it didn't take long for Louise tobe discovered that, you know,
she was bullshit, she was plainold lying. Yeah, she was just
doing doing a crime or two.Yeah. The police told Louise that as
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long as she left the town,they wouldn't press any charges, and it
was to avoid any more embarrassment tothe family. So it was a like
high up, high up family.You know, we're talking like a judge
or well, she's an heiress.She could only stay with the high highest
of higher ups exactly. So itwas like to avoid any more embarrassment,
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if you just leave and don't comeback, okay, will be good and
you won't press charges anyway. Anyway, Louise then moved to Waco, Texas,
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which I did not know it wasa real place, but don't Yeah,
Waco, that's where that big butremember the big church there was and
a guy like kept a bunch ofit was like a cult and he kept
a bunch of people in the church, and the FBI were trying to go
in and like swatt it and getpeople out, and he like exploded the
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church. So yeah, yeah,So she moved to Wakeo, Texas,
where she met a wealthy oil baronJoe Apple. The pair began a romantic
relationship when Joe was suddenly Fenn shotdead and some of his diamonds were missing.
I guess he really wanted a doctorday. That was such a bad
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badly thought I'd put I'm so sorry, I loved That's okay. It obviously
naturally didn't take place long to arrestLouise and charge her with Joe's murder.
Louise's case then went to trial,and she told the jury about how she
had to kill Joe, okay,because it was himself defend because she was
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claiming that good old Joe had triedto rape her and she panicked and killed
him. Jerry found Louise not guiltyand applauded her bravery forgetting that he was
missing diamonds. Well, I mean, if a guy tries to rape you
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and then you kill him, Imight rob them too. You know.
It's obviously questioned now on whether thatman did try rape her or not.
I think it's safe to guess not, because, as you will see,
she has a thing about lying.WHOA what what. In nineteen thirteen,
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Louise moved back to Dallas, Texas. Didn't take her long to meet a
local nightclerk, Harry Farrott. Idon't know how to pronounce his name.
I'm so Harry faut fat. Harryworked at Saint George's hotel, and you
guessed it. They quickly got married, pussy. It is reported that Louise
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then stole twenty thousand dollars worth ofjewelry from the hotel that Harry worked at.
She's not good and police immediately questionher and Harry over the burglary.
Harry was eventually cleared of any involvementand they believed that Louise acted alone.
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However, the police did not haveenough evidence to actually charge her with the
theft. Louise began having many differentaffairs on Harry. Harry became depressed over
his relationship with Louise and having beenaccused of robbery in his job. It
is reported that Harry hung himself inthe basement of the hotel, but some
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people believe that Louise did have somethingto do with his death. Oh my
god. So why well, ifshe was stepping out on him, then
he yeah, maybe that's why.Like she literally walked into his life,
got married, and then ruined hislife. Yeah, and like, can
I just this is all in thespace of like two years. Oh my
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god. Yeah, she wastes notime. In nineteen fifteen, Louise moved
to Denver, Colorado, where shemet Richard Pete, a local salesman,
and she wasted no time in marryinghim. And this is then when she
takes his name, this is husbandnumber four. Yeah. The pair went
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on to have a daughter together innineteen sixteen, Frances Anne, who went
by Betty for some reason. Imean, Betty's kind of better than Frances
I'd take it. Richard and Louisefought a lot, mostly over Richard's income.
Louise wanted to live this wealthy lifestyle, and Richard just did not earn
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enough money to provide for the lifestyle. She wanted. Hey, Louise,
why don't you get a job?I mean, you know, just saying.
In nineteen twenty, Louise packed allof her belongings and left Richard and
Betty. She decided she's going tostart a new life in Los Angeles.
She was going to be a star. While Louise was looking for summer to
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live, she met a man,Jacob C. Denton, a mining engineer
who was recently widowed. He hada teenage daughter from like that marriage,
and he also had a fourteen roommansion. Oh, I wonder what attracted
her to him? Family, familyvalues. Richard was looking to rent out
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his mansion for three hundred dollars amonth, which today is about four thousand,
five hundred dollars a month, whichfor fourteen roomed mansion, it's not
half bad in La In La.Somehow, and it's unclear how, but
somehow, Louise convinced Jacob that sheshould move in with him as his living
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companion. She claimed that the pairwere in a sexual relationship, but according
to Jacob, she was just acompanion and that was it. There was
nothing like sexual about it. Likeshe was literally just to keep him company
because he was he was a littlebit old. Oh okay, but she's
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trying to keep up appearances, beinglike, yeah, we'd be fucking like,
why why are you lying? Louisewanted Jacob to marry her, and
when she asked him about marriage,he said that he wasn't planning on ever
remarrying. He was like, thatship sailed, I'm old, Like I'm
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not doing that. Wait, soLouise asked him. Yeah, She's like,
what do you think about marriage?Like we should get married, like
marry me. Oh, Louise,No, I'm already married. And he's
like, I'm old as fuck.I'm probably gonna die soon. So like
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nah, and then he dies alot sooner. Louise then asked the caretaker
of the mansion to plant a tonof dirt in the basement, as she
wanted to grow some of Jacob's favoritemushrooms down there. What is that?
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What? Yep, I casually grownmushrooms and he has favorite mushrooms as well.
Yeah. On June, I havea second, but I think it's
supposed to say twentieth. On Junetwentieth, nineteen twenty, Paco went missing.
This wasn't long after Louise had movedin as his living companion. Okay,
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she moved in on the fifth ofJune. He went missing, like
June twentieth or something, so literallytwo weeks later. Yeah. Louise then
began forging Jacob's signature in order towithdraw three hundred dollars from his bank and
to gain access to his safety depositboxes. This is where like Louise decides
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to take an interesting stance with everything. So the bank obviously question Louise.
They're like, listen, Jacob's along term customer, right, and that
don't look like his signature and we'veliterally never seen you before in our lives.
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Who are you? Who are you? Well Curly is like yeah,
so listen, right, Jacob hadhis writing arm amputated because a mysterious Spanish
woman whom he had had an argumentwith, shot him. Of course,
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that's the only explanation. I mean, obviously, obviously, um, for
some reason, the bank were like, yes, that's legit. Yeah,
you know what, I don't blamethem, that's a perfectly reasonable excuse.
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I feel like they were like,that's so absurd it has to be true.
Yeah. I mean I feel likethe bank were like, that's so
absurd that it has to be true. Yeah. Back in the day,
when you're like in school, youwould tell your teacher or your mom that
you were like vomiting and had violentdiarrhea, and you would go into detail,
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you know, when really you justwanted to stay off school because you're
like, it's so embarrassing that they'llbelieve it. They wouldn't think I'm just
embarrassing myself just for fun. Yeah, they'd be like, there's no way
she's going to tell me she hasexplosive diarrhea if she doesn't have it.
Louise does go on to change herstory, like Girly can't keep stories straight.
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She starts telling people that this mysteriousSpanish woman whom Jacob argued with argued
with, stabbed him in his writingarm with a sword. I love that
she brings the sword into it.She really like brings up the fantasy play
here m. She then goes onto say that he's missing a leg and
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that he's embarrassed by his handicap andhe doesn't want to be seen out in
public. So he's missing an armand a leg at this stage. Yeah,
I guess he's not all right then, or maybe he is. I
don't know. Bad pauns today,you've been hanging out with Nile too much.
I really have herd help me.She said that Jacob didn't want to
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return to society until he had hisprosthetic fitted. I mean all right,
yeah, I get it. SoLouise begins to tell everyone that her and
Jacob got married, she began drivinghis car and spending his money, and
she was also pawning off some ofhis belongings. Louise even managed to convince
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the tenants of Jacob's rental property outin Arizona to write their checks out to
her and not to Jacob. Ohyeah, because you know, the loss
of a leg and the loss ofan arm would mean that you don't want
your rental check. Of course,of course, Jacob's daughter decided that she
was going to hire a lawyer totry to find out what happened to her
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father. Like she's like, that'ssomething, it's not like adding up here.
I'm curious, Yeah, because where'sthe teenager at this point? Was
she living with her dad? Andthen one day her dad's just not there
and then his weird companion that justmoved in is like, oh, some
Spanish woman came in and step himwith the sward and then she shut him
and Lewie's last off of his legsand now he's differently aired. I think
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like she had moved out at thisstage. I think she was like by
this rate, is like eighteen,oh, like living elsewhere on her second
divorce, five kids. Yeah.Yeah. The lawyer questioned Louise on Jacob's
whereabouts, and she told the lawyerthat she didn't know where he was.
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She then told the lawyer that shewould forward on his finances. She would
forward on like Jacob's finances to Jacobas soon as she could for him to
have a look at, and likewould let him know that the teenage daughter
is like looking for him, okay, and like she's just like, I'll
do that as soon as I can. I'll get around to it. Meanwhile,
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she's getting fed grape. Louise thenstarted throwing lavish parties in the mansion,
and then she decided that she didn'twant to live there anymore and that
she was going to rent it out. So she's like, you know what,
I've had my fun in La,I'm gonna rent this out, convinced
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those to send me the rental checks, and I'm just going to go home
to my sweet old husband and child. Oh okay, So she's done.
Like any I have a question though, Yeah, when the new tenants moved
in, did they ask about thefucking mushrooms growing in their basement or was
that just a given? It wasjust like you ignore those they're not there.
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M So, while Louise is outof the mansion, Jacob's daughter hires
a private investigator to go search thehouse for any clues that might be there
or that might tell her where herdad is like. She's like, he's
either they're dead somewhere, or he'slike she's like placed them in a fucking
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mental home or something, or youknow. So, the private investigator is
sleuthing through the house, an hegoes down to the basement, and here
he finds then of dirt, mushrooms, and in the ton of dirt is
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the body of Jacob with a bulletwound in his head. Okay, first
of all, I feel fucking ledto Okay, there was no mushrooms.
And secondly, the fact that shewas going to rent that house out with
a fucking decomposing body in the basement, A girl girl, what make it
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makes sense? What is happening?So obviously she becomes immediately the prime suspect,
and it does not take them longto locate her in Denver at all.
So Louise is brought into questioning withthe Denver police department, and she's
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unaware that they've found the body,okay, Like she thinks they're just trying
to find out like where he is. And she begins telling police about the
Spanish woman and his amputated arm andleg, and the police informer that they
know he's not missing any limbs.They're like, we know he's not missing
any limbs. She's like, waitfor it. Then she's like, you
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know that's not Jacob. That's abody double that Jacob shot so he could
go disappear. She's riding herself intoa mystery novel. I swear to god,
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how are you finding a body doubleshooting him and then putting him in
your basement under dirt. However,the police do have DNA evidence and like
they're like, no, no,we know what's Jacob, like dental records,
like man's man's loaded, so likehe's easy to identify because we'll get
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paid to do that. Yeah.So Louise was tryings fared back to Los
Angeles, where she was charged withfirst degree murder. Louise's trial began on
January twenty first, nineteen twenty one. She was found guilty and was sentenced
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to life imprisonment. Louise's husband,Richard remained loyal to Louise for the first
two years of her sentence. Thisside I leave just gave me when she
said remained loyal, you were likeremain loyal like no like he believed she
was innocent, but she just lefthim. She just abandoned him and her
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child for however long came back,got arrested for murder and charged with murder.
Is on trial and found guilty ofsaid murder. And he's like,
nah, no, nah, notmy Louise. She would never, she
would never. In nineteen twenty three, Louise told Richard that they should get
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a divorced so that he could befree from her and remarry. But really
it was just because she just wassick of him and wanted to divorce on
to us in number seventy eight.So when the divorce was finalized, Louise
stopped answering Richard's letters and would refuseto see him at visitation. Richard became
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distraught. He told Louise he wouldwait forever for her to be released.
However, Louise was like, I'mdone with you, yeah, bornel bitch,
And in nineteen twenty four, Richardcommitted suicide in a motel room in
Arizona. So that's the third manto commit suicide over Louise over her.
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When asked about it, Louise saidthat he must have just felt guilty over
her conviction. And she talked abouthow he had per health why would he
feel guilty over her conviction, Andshe's just like fine, whatever, okay,
bye, Like she's too chill aboutthis. This woman is crazy.
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I'm starting to think she's not onehundred percent all there. Well, the
story doesn't end here, oh okay, So before I go any further,
we're just going to take a quicklittle lad break. Hey guys, Megan
here, I just wanted to tellyou about the season of That So Fucked
Up Presents that I was lucky enoughto be a part of with host Ashley
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Richards. Every season actually covers adifferent variety of cases, and this time
we covered the world's most gruesome gals. Head on over to That's So Fucked
Up on any of your listening platformsto hear all about Katherine Knight, Carla
Hamoka, are more. Here's asneak peek. Are you ready for the
gnarliest part of the story? Nope? Okay, here we go. She
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then went on his skin him anddid this so precisely that his skin wasn't
one piece. I am fucking nauseous. Louise was sentenced to San Quentin State
Prison, but she was eventually transferredto the California Institution for Women. While
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there, Louise maintained the flower garden. She was the dentist's assistant, and
she enjoyed She enjoyed writing for theprison newspaper. She's a busy little bee.
Was she grown mushrooms in the garden. No, because she doesn't know
how to. She had no deadbody to put down. So Louise was
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actually considered to be a model inmate. She was granted parole for good behavior
in nineteen thirty nine, after servingeighteen years, she was released into the
custody of Jesse Mercy, a womanwho believed that Louise was innocent of murdering
Jacob and should be set free.Because you have to remember the only reason
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she was charged and found guilty wasn'tanything to do with like DNA evidence or
anything like that. It was literallyjust like she was the last person to
see him alive. She had thisa wild story. Yeah, well it
was the lies that would got herconvicted, you know. Yeah, But
like she's like no, no,Like as far as I knew he was
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alive in that case, then stillif you knew that your partner, whoever
the fuck this guy is to herat that stage, has a dead body
of his body double, his stuntdouble h in his basement, why didn't
you say anything? What do youneed a stunts double for or a body
double for in like ninety, thisis twenty, this is so, this
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is the thing. So she gaveLouise a job as her live inmate,
and she was then granted permission tochange her name to Alee. Now it
does not confuse everybody. I'm stillgoing to call her Louise, but everyone
she meets up from here on outbelieve her name is Anna Lee. Jesse
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died of natural causes, and Louisethen had to move into her parole officer,
Emily Latham's home. As then herparole officer became ill in nineteen forty
three, Louise became her career andapproximately two weeks later, Emily died of
a stroke. Then a woman calledMargaret Logan, who was a friend of
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Louise's offered her it's under Oh no, I didn't. That's really sad.
Then Margaret Logan, a friend ofLouise's, offered her a job as a
living nurse for her husband, ArthurLogan. Louise met a banker named Lee
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Borden Judson. Lee knew Louise asonly Anna Lee. It was reported that
the pair got married in May nineteenforty four, but Louise kept the wedding
a secret as it violated her parolebecause obviously, when her parole officer died
like she just got a new paroleofficer. Louise told Margaret how she was
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due to inherit property in Denver andit needed to be renovated, and she
asked if Margaret would be interested ininvesting in the property. Now, Margaret
didn't have much money as she hadto give up work to care for her
husband, Arthur, who was sufferingfrom dementia. However, she believed in
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Louise and she agreed to invest inthe property. Louise then tried to have
Arthur taken into an institution for hisdementia. The closest she ever got was
when he had Arthur in the hospitalto have him evaluated, and Margaret was
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going to go along with the evaluation, but then Margaret felt too guilty about
abandoning her husband and she took himhome. Oh my heart. Louise then
began telling the neighbors that Arthur wouldget violent with Margaret and that he would
often attack her when he was havinga bad episode. Louise then told her
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husband Lee that she had to gostay with Margaret for a little while to
discuss business about her investment in theDenver property. Soon after this, Margaret
disappeared. Louise cashed out train ticketsthat, like Margaret, had to use
the money to pay off debt.Louise then signed Arthur into Patton State Hospital,
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pretending to be a family member.Shortly after this, Louise and Lee
moved into the Logan home. Louisetold all of Arthur's doctors that on May
twenty ninth, Arthur had gotten physicalwith Margaret during an episode and had bitten
her on the nose and neck,and this led Arthur to be held at
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the state hospital on a court order, but that could be easily bruthon though.
No, wait, so he didactually get a court order or she's
telling people. He did actually getthe court order, so she is like,
she gets him in there, pretendingto be a family member, and
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then she goes and she tells thedoctor, like all the doctors and nurses
that oh, like, he attackedhis wife Margaret, bit her on the
nose, bit her on the neckwhen he was having a really bad episode,
and she's really super injured. Andthey're like, oh, well,
then in that case, he isa danger to others and we'll have to
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keep him. Yeah, okay,okay, I get it. Louise then
began telling neighbors and friends the samestory, and she informed them that Margaret
was left disfigured by the attack andwas self conscious of how she looked.
She told everyone that Margaret didn't wantto be seen like that, so she
was hiding out. On December sixth, nineteen forty four, Arthur Logan passed
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away believing his wife had abandoned himat a state hospital. Louise, isn't
it like that per man just thoughthis wife abandoned him. Louise had Arthur's
body donated to science, claiming itwas Arthur's wish. So that's because you
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didn't want to pay for your funeral. Yeah, stingy bitch, like you
put him in there, Yeah,donate his body to science fuck off?
Like I mean do that, becauseI will. I would look into that.
To be honest, for myself,I think it's cool, but like,
don't do on behalf of other people. Don't make that decision for somebody
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else exactly. Several weeks later,Louise's parole officers started to notice that Margaret's
signature looked different from June onwards onher like parole forms, because obviously they
had to fill out forms to saylike, yes, she lives here,
Yes she works for us, youknow, like no, she's not doing
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anything illegal as far as we know. Yeah, So she's like, that's
weird. So she became suspicious thatLouise was possibly filling out the forms and
signing her parole forms herself, whichis obviously against the law and against her
parole. So she took the evidenceto her superior, who agreed that the
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signatures were different, like the onesfrom before June were definitely different to the
ones after June. So they bothwent to the district attorney Fred Hauser.
The parole officer told Fred Hauser,who Louise was that her name isn't really
Annaie, that she's Louise Pete,and Fred Hauser actually remembers the case and
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it's like, oh, yeah,I remember that, like she like killed
some old guy. Oh she gotexposed. So he's like, yeah,
that's super duper weird. So hedecides that he's not going to waste any
time and he just and he sendsa homicide detective over to the Logan Logan
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household. Didn't take long to figureout that something was up, because when
the detective is questioning, like allthe neighbors and family and friends, they
all have the same story, butlike a different variation. No one has
the same exact story, Like noone has the same information. Why can't
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she not keep a lie straight?It's like, sis, that's all you
had to do, and you probablywould have got away with it, yeah,
literally. And on top of that, no one had seen Margaret for
almost seven months at this stage,and while Arthur was in hospital, he
hadn't a single visit from Margaret,which everyone is like, you know,
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like that's super weird because like sheloved her husband to death and like would
even if she was disfigured, likeshe'd still risk go seeing him. On
December twentieth, nineteen forty four,early in the morning, several detectives sneak
onto the Logan property. Two differentofficers snucked down to the cellar while the
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lead detective, Tad Brown had aluck on the porch. When he looked
through the window, he saw Louiseand Leeting looking over a strong box.
Detective Brian rang a strong box thatI'm pretty sure it's like basically what they
would a strong box be, likewhat they use in um what's called I
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just said it earlier. What takea head from the bank, like a
safe a safety deposit box. Yeah, would that be like a strong box
like something that like you can youknow like yeah, no, I've I've
no like proof of this, butin my head, I would imagine in
it is probably Arthur and Margaret's willsand like the deed to the house,
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and you know, like something thatyou'd keep like all the important bits like
as song, like something like astrong box would be like something that wouldn't
catch fire. Yes, yeah,so you keep in all your important shit
in there, like the d toyour house, your life and sharance policies,
all that you're vape. So DetectiveBrown rings the doorbell, and Louise
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is like super annoyed, like she'slike, fuck sake Wise, there police
at my door, fuck me,fuck my life because you've killed people.
She reluctantly lets them in. She'slike, let's do this, I guess.
(48:30):
Detective Brin wastes no time and he'slike, where the fox's Margaret?
Yeah, and she Louise replies,quote, Oh, she's in a sanitarium
near Patton. Her husband died thereDecember sixth. Louise, sweetie, that's
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something that they can check up on. Yeah, and I feel like they
would have already checked at this stageof the game. Louise, so like
any hoodles. She then went onto say that Margaret was recovering from plastic
surgery from her attack. She comesup the wildest shit, I'm sorry,
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no, like, where does yourbrain go? No? She has an
overall, overam active, overactive imagination'scrazy. After being questioned, Louise went
on to admit that she'd been signingthe forms. That she had been signing
her parole forms, but she wasclaiming that Margaret had told her to do
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it while she was recovering. DetectiveBrian decides that he's just gonna come out
and he's like, did you hurtMargaret Killer? Did you killer? Comme
on it, and Louise replies,you know, Jean bis Qualez told me
(49:59):
someday I'd blow my top again.I'll only talk to Jean now. Jean
Qualez, and I'm so sorry ifI'm saying that I'm wrong. He was
the county sheriff at the time ofthe murder of Jacob Denton, so he
like dealt with her, okay,and she's like, he told me I'd
blow my top again someday. Imaginethe county Sheriff's like, yeah, you'll
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probably killed somebody again one day,but hey, we're gonna let you out
on good behavior. Yeah you mentionedserve life, but here after eighteen years,
you're good. You're good. Louisewas then taken to the police department.
The police searched the Logan property totry and find Margaret's body, obviously,
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and eventually they dig up her bodyunder a freshly painted under a painted
under a freshly planted tree. Whenpolice were questioning Louise, they inform her
that they found Margaret's body, andshe finally made a confession just wasn't the
one that they're hoping for. CanI guess? Did she blame Lee?
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No, she doesn't blame Lee.It's worse. She decided to tell police
that while having an episode, Arthurgot physical with Margaret, beat her,
and then shot her. That isso sick that both of these people are
dead. Nobody can like defend themselves, and that they were a loving couple.
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He would have never heard her,She would have never heard him.
She said that she felt no onewould believe her because of her history,
so she buried Margaret's body and placedArthur in the care of the state hospital.
However, the gun that was usedto shoot Margaret belonged to Louise's old
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parole officer, the one that wegot the smoking gun, the one that
she was a living care for fora whole of two weeks before the woman
had a stroke. Yeah, yeah, that gun. She still her gun.
How did nobody come looking for hergun? I would have imagined,
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like, yeah, like that stuffall has to be taken back. That's
not Marca. Margaret's autopsy showed thatshe was shot in the neck from behind
while on or near a telephone.She was then hit in the head with
a blunt object. The blows tothe head were the official cause of death.
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So the woman didn't die from thegun shop. How did they know
she was on or near a telephone. I don't I'm assuming they found like
pieces of a telephone. Oh okay. I thought they were gonna like say
some crazy fucking nineteen fifty shit orwhatever, being like, oh, there's
many active levels in her blood,you know, I mean nineteen forty four.
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Very well. Police question Lee Judson, and he stated that he had
believed every lie his wife had toldhim, and he believed that she had
nothing to do with Margaret's disappearance.Like when Margaret disappeared, he was like,
I had no reason not to believeher. And he's like, I
didn't even know her name was Louise. I thought it was Anna. Lee.
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This man is something special because hefalls in love gets married to somebody
he doesn't know anything about. That'sokay, no fault of his one.
We can we can get down withthat. Secondly, this woman that he's
just married is like, hey,I know a special place and then she
just brings him to this like randomhouse that it's just empty, and she's
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like, we can just like livehere, mortgage, what is that?
What is that? He's just likeokay with it? Yeah, pretty much.
Police question Lee on and off forweeks, but eventually determined that Lee
was telling the truth that he wasreleased on January eleventh, nineteen forty five.
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Depressed and embarrassed by what Louise haddone, Lee threw himself Dennis stairwell,
oh my god, I'm laughing fromyour Oh my god, enough for
this leg sentence. Just fyr okay, Lee died for me in fact a
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laugh. Oh my god, hedied the timing. I'm very sad that
the bad died. Don't care.I'm not m Lee died from the impact
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and his injuries. And that isthe like fourth person to commit suicide on
this woman because of this woman.Ah hm. So I'm just gonna take
another little quick outbreak and then we'llwreck this baby up and we're back from
her at break me. So.Louise's trial began on April twenty third,
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nineteen forty five. The prosecution pointedout to the jury that the murder of
Margaret Logan is similar to that ofJacob Denton. A neighbor then testified that
she had gone over to the Loganresidence to tell Louise that Arthur Logan had
died, and Louise almost seemed happyabout the news. When the neighbor asked,
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like, why don't you seem solike, why are you almost happy
about this? Louise replied, quote, Oh, he's an all sick man.
He's better off dead. Oh whoa, okay, Louise, No need
to be so curt about it.Tell us how you really feel. Swear
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to call it like damn. Louisethen decided that she wanted to take the
stand against her legal team's wishes.They're like, no, no, please,
don't. You're not that lovable,and she's like, I got pussy
power. Okay, that'll be fine. Do you know how many men have
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killed themselves for me? Louise,sweetie, it's not something to be bread
up. It's really not. Louiseclaimed that she was unsure who killed Jacob
Denton, and then went on totell her version of the events the night
that Margaret Logan was murdered, whichwas that Arthur was having a bad episode,
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shot her, beat her all thatjazz the prosecution like or whilst they're
like, you know, cross examiningher, ask her how long it took
her to dig Margaret's grave, towhich Louise responds, quote, I don't
know. The night was endless,and I don't want to talk about it
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anymore. Oh okay, you can'tjust take this down and then be like,
actually, I just like don't wantto talk about it anymore. This
conversation has just been going on likefar too long, so like, can
we wrap it up or something?Yeah, you're kind of boring me.
On May twenty eighth, nineteen fortyfive, Louise was found guilty of first
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degree murder. After the jury deliberatedfor three hours, Louise was sentenced to
death. Louise maintained that she wasinnocent, and she appealed her sentence several
times, but it was never successful, and on April eleventh, nineteen forty
seven, Louise was executed in thegass chamber at San Quentin State Prison.
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Louise is the second woman to beexecuted in the California state by the state.
Damn she that was a swift endfor her after all of that life,
after all, like after all ofthose like lies and like reinventing yourself
twenty billion times, and like gettingmarried another twenty billion times and she didn't
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have more kids. It's weird.But at the same time, like she
was just marrying these men for money, Like but was she getting money because
she had to steal from Arthur andMargaret to pay off debt. So she
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was trying to marry for money.She just wasn't very good at it because
she killed them. She killed themen too quickly, like girl high her
in like a few years. Getyourself written into the wheel, you know,
get yourself written into the wheel.Let them get their money up a
little bit, come on, andthen like have them die of like natural
causes. It's not a gunshot woundto the head. Yeah, you're you're
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being a little bit too obvious,a little bit too for it. Louise,
We're gonna need you to kind ofdial up back a smidge, all
right, Like come on, hunt, have you never seen how to get
away with wurther m clearly that she'sbeing a silly ghost, But damn,
what is with these people? Whoelse was it? You told me a
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story about somebody else before? Andshe also had like fifty million husbands,
Yeah I did not too long agoactually as well. I can't remember that
woman's I feel like her name wasElizabeth, and she kept naming all of
her children Elizabeth. Yes exactly.We were like, girl, find a
new different. We also googled whencondoms were invented. I forget when they
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were invented. Yeah, same,but they were invented at that time.
I think of that. I believeh find it heat. We can't remember.
You could just get yourself a jobmight be easier than killing all these
men. What happens to her prostitutiongig? I mean, she wasn't very
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good at it, fair enough MaryAnne Cotton, Oh yeah, that's her
name. She did. She namedall of her children Elizabeth, though she
was fucking wild. It's a it'sa rollercoaster of a story because she gets
caught and you're like, oh,so this is it, and then they
(01:00:51):
release her and she gets caught againand you're like, wait what, Yeah,
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all right, let's go to bedsluncha. What's her second name, Louise
Pete. I want to look ather. Get ready to be warmly disappointed.
This woman looks like a midwife.That's going to be really mean to
me. You're right about the meanpart. Okay, Well, back in
(01:05:23):
nineteen twenty, she was something Iguess. I mean, Oh ah,
thank you. I told my Alicould tell a joke. You can tell
it at the end. Oh mygod, he doesn't even have it ready.
I do have it ready. Youdo this all the time, Nile.
(01:05:46):
That's the real reason. He gaveher tea, just so that you
could come in. And she saida joke. He wasn't, actually,
I'm sure so. My penis wasin the Guinness Book of Horror Records,
but the librari, being the smallest, the librarian told me to take it
out about it, Yeah, likeI had it between the pages. No,
(01:06:15):
we get the joke now and youdon't need to explain it, thank
you very much. Yeah. Yeah, he's giving me the evils from the
door as well. Oh that's sofunny. He did bring me a baby's
coffee that was so it can't bebad. He was joking forbad