The Murdaugh Family

Hello! This week Niamh gives us the low-down on the Murdaugh family. A high-powered family from South Carolina, this family thought they could get away with anything.

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Episode Transcript

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Hi, and welcome back to giveus more. I'm Leve, I'm Megan,
and you were joining us for anotherepisode of Just Two Girlies. Anticipating
fall in the middle of August.I've been waiting for since it lasts left.
I've been waiting for autum, sinceI left Ireland. We do not
get autumn here. We don't havetrees, so it doesn't change. I

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enjoyed my July and then it hitAugust and I was like, cool,
great, summer's over. It's not. They're still on the first of August.
I went to work and I waslike, yay, it's the first
of August. It's autumn. Andthey were like, what the fuck are
you talking about. It's still summer. Like August is summer? Like no,
it is autumn. Ah ah Augustah, Tom it is. We're

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in the same Listen. Autumn maynot officially start until September, and it
may be September, October, andNovember, but August is an honorary autumn
month. It is. And youknow what you feel autumn in your bones?
You know you don't. It's notbuy some calendar. Anyways. This

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week I have a case for everybodythat's pretty recent and is somewhat still ongoing.
And no it's not Lori Vellows,that absolute demon, bitch cunt person.
She got convicted, so at leastlet her raw. Yeah, now
we just have to wait for Chad's. Anybody I've ever heard of called Chad

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is kind of an asshole. MYeah, it's not going too well for
the Chad's out there. Don't nameyour kid Chad. And if you already
have, ah fuck. So lastweek Megan told us the story of your
man's cult. Yeah, the weirdAlexander family. There's like incest, murder,
everything, piano playing, playing whilstmurder and incest is happening. It's

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all going on at all. Ye, that was a super interesting case,
just because cults are insane. Weird, Yeah, weird. So this week
I'm going to tell you guys aboutthe Murder family and the murders that coincide,
which no one family should have murderersattached to their but any I watched

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like three episodes I think, orlike two and a half, Like I
didn't finish it. I got abouthalfway through of this documentary on Netflix,
the one on there's only three episodes. I watched it and all yeah.
I also watched the Sky one.I think it was Sky Crime or something.
It was on AM. I watchedthat one too, which, it
to be fair, was pretty muchthe Netflix one. Like they had the

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same they had the same information reallybut and they talked to like pretty much
the same like people. So it'sa bit it's a bit wild, if
I'm being completely honest. It islike mob family meets small town meets Texas
in Texas, isn't it. Itis South Carolina? Yeah, not Texas,

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but it's yeah, South How doy'all we'll jump straight in. I'll
start off, which is giving alittle bit of a backstory to the Murdoch
family. So the Murdoch family wasan immensely powerful family in a small town

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of Hampton, South Carolina. RandolphMurda Senior became a lawyer in nineteen twenty
and set up his own law firm, which today is now known as Parker
log Group. He then became theprosecuting attorney for the Low Country, which
is basically South Carolina, and thenlike some of its neighboring towns and places,

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well no, not like yeah,well it's like Hampton, and then
it's like a few of its neighboringsmall towns are known as the low Country.
The Low Country consisted of Hampton andthirteen of its surrounding towns. Okay,
Randolph's oldest son Randolph, and theyall keep the same fucking names.

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So Randolph's oldest son, Randolph BusterMurdah, took over as the prosecuting attorney
in nineteen forty after his father diedin a car crash. Buster was then
acting prosecutor until he retired in nineteeneighty six. I'm sorry. If your
lawyer is called Buster, you're goingto jail. Who's your attorney? Buster?

(04:55):
Buster? Over here? Oh mygod, stop. I would make
so many puns about how I gotbusted, But now I have Buster be
there all day. I'll be theworst criminals if I had Buster. He
was the prosecuting attorney for the LowCountry. Oh okay, so he's one
of the good guys. So heis good. But like his name is,
they call him, well, Noah, his name is Randolph, but
everyone called him Buster. So Busteris acting prosecutor until he retired in nineteen

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eighty six. He was then succeededby his son, Randolph Murdoch, the
third Randolph had four children with hiswife Elizabeth, Randolph Randy the fourth,
Richard Alexander, alex and John Marvin. Look that's changed, all right,
And then they had a daughter calledLynn. Randy and Alex went on to

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law school and began working for thefamily law firm. Alex soon married Margaret
Maggie and the pair had two sons, Richard Alexander who is known as Buster,
and Paul Terry Murdoch. This familysoon becomes famous for all of the
wrong reasons. Scandal. It allbegan in the summer of twenty fifteen when

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on July eighth, nineteen year oldStephen Smith was found dead in the middle
of the road in Hampton. Stephenhad died from blunt force trauma to the
head. Stephen was a proud,openly gay man, and he was studying
to become a nurse. Stephen's deathwas ruled a hit and run. However,
there was some very unanswered questions.I wonder why somebody would kill somebody

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like that in these small towns.Again, an openly gay, proud man.
It didn't take long for the investigationto turn towards the Murdoch family.
Stephen had been in the same classin High School as Buster Murdoch. There
were a few rumors that Stephen andBuster were friends, and others that Stephen

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and Buster were seeing each other.Shortly before his death, Stephen had told
a friend that he was secretly datingsomeone from a very powerful family from the
town, and obviously this led tospeculation that it was Buster, because,
to be perfectly honest, the Murdaserlike the most powerful family in the town

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at this time. Okay, Igot it, like I don't know the
land Grab family in the sims Isee it. Sadly, Stephen's case went
cold and Steven's murder has not beensolved. Buster Murda denies ever being in
a relationship with Stephen and denies havinganything to do with the tragic debt.

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It has been rumored that Buster anda few of his friends from the football
team had met Stephen on the roadthe night of the murder, and that
they attacked him and then they stagedhim in the middle of the road to
make it look like a hit andrun. What do you believe? Well,
Currently, as of current, policeare reopening the investigation and they are
taking a further look into Buster Murda. So Alex Murdo and his dad,

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who is Buster Senior. Anytime BusterJunior or Paul would get in trouble,
Buster Senior and Alex would like immediatelybailed them out and like cover anything and
everything up the night of the famousboat accident, which we'll get into in

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a few minutes, they naturally callnine one one first, like all the
friends, and Paul is like,no, call my granddad. Like his
first top is call my granddad.So I don't know whether he has anything
to do with the murder, butit was like a known secret, if

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you will. That Like whenever peoplefrom the time talk about it, they're
like, oh, you know,they were definitely like secretly dating. Oh
okay, So do we have anythinglike that in our ten I don't think.
We don't have any powerful families inour towns. So, oh,
there's definitely some families that like tobelieve they're powerful. Oh there's families that

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like to believe they're powerful, butthey ain't. No. No. Tragedy
stuck struck the family again on Februarysecond, eighteen when their housekeeper, Glorious
statter Field, fell down the stepsof the front of the house. Gloria
was the housekeeper and the nanny tothe family for years, and it is

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said that she is the one whoraised Paul. On February second, thousand
and eight, Paul and his mother, Maggie, called nine to one one
claiming that Gloria had tripped over thefamily dogs and fell down the front steps
of the family home. Gloria wastaken to the hospital for multiple fractures in
her ribs, a palmary contusion,and a subdural hematoma. Jesus, A

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fall down like four flights of step, like four steps, that's pretty intense.
She must if she did fall,of course, that must have been
a hard, hard fall, accordingto medical staff. When Gloria was conscious,
she was unsure as how she hadended up into the hospital and how
she'd managed to fall down the stairs. So the question here is if she

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was the family's maid and nanny fouryears like literally since Paul was like three
years old, and at this stagehe's like twenty yeah, not even maybe
eighty eight's isn't that like he's lateteens, early twenties at this stage.
How did she trip over the dogs? But she is so used to in

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her everyday life, Okay, tobe fair, when Milly was still around
God blessed her beautiful soul. Iused to trip up over her all the
time, just because she was oneof those dogs that wherever you turned,
she was going to be behind you. So if you turned and went to
walk, and if they're small dog, she was. I've definitely tripped up
over small dogs before because they're likethey just run around in front of you.

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They're all like, I don't think, I don't think. I don't
think they were small dogs. Ithink they're like I can't fully remember what
kind of dogs there, but tomy knowledge, they're like kind of like
labrador like they'll be like, say, the size of labadors. Mhmm,
that's really weird that we're talking aboutdogs like dogs like, don't talk shit
about my kind. They were masssecond causes three times removed. However,

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according to Alex, she had toldhim that she had tripped like so Alex
was like, oh no, shetold me she tripped over the dogs when
I was in with her. Ah, okay. Gloria contracted pneumonia while in
hospital, and she sat and passedaway from a heart attack on February twenty
six. That woman could not catchyour break. Holy fuck her heart.

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Obviously, cut and handle, thepneumonia and the like healing of it,
all the injuries. Gloria was onlyfifty seven years old. Gloria's death has
been reported as a trip and fallaccident and that she died of natural causes.
However, no autopsy was ever conducted. A local coroner stated that the

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claim she died of natural causes wasimproper. Alex Murder told Gloria's family that
he was going to claim Gloria's deathon his insurance so that he could cover
the hospital bills and the funeral.It's reported that Alex won the insurance claim
and won four point three million dollarsin the settlement. Despite this, Gloria's

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family never saw a scent. Infact, they were unaware that the settlement
had been made. Holy fuck,they should sue. They should do it.
They should sue, literally like pitch, what the hell? So we're
just going to take a quick outbreakhere before we get into the nitty gritty
and welcome back. Alex's youngest son, Paul, soon would bring the spotlight

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onto the family in twenty nineteen,and not the kind of spotlight you want,
oh, thanks Paul. On Februarytwenty third, two, nineteen,
Paul Murdaugh and his friends were planningon going to a party. Paul's best
friend, Anthony Cook and his cousinConnor Cook planned to go to the party

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with the girlfriends Mallory Beach and MileyAltman with Paul and his on off girlfriend
Morgan. They broke up and thoughta lot and you know young love.
Paul bought everyone drink using his brother'sID that evening and everyone agreed to meet

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at Paul's grandfather's boathouse as they neededto take a boat across the lake to
get to wherever the party was.They took Paul's boat and at around midnight,
everyone decided that it was time toleave the party. He's time to
go home. You know, they'reall done, So Paul insists on driving

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this on driving the boat, despitebeing quite drunk. On the way home,
Paul pulled the boat into a duckside bar and CCTV footage shows Paul
going into the par into the barwith Connor Cook and downing a couple of
shots. Then you can see Pauland Morgan having a disagreement over something and

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Paul's behavior became quite erratic and quiteaggressive and he was known to be aggressive.
That's why he was breaking up withthe girlfriend and stuff. He was
known for when he drank, havinglike an alter ego, This angry,
aggressive part of them would just comeout when he would get so drunk.

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He could have like two or threedrinks, fine, and he'd have the
fourth drink and all of a sudden, he is just this completely different person.
That's me. But my different personis I just danced. I could
so become a professional dancer. Andthen it's like know, like if anyone
was to ever send me a video, I'd be like please now, oh

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god. Okay. All of Paul'sfriends said that they knew when he had
entered this personality because he would standwith his hands wide open, like you
know, the way like you that'sgross. His hands would be like fingers
white apart, still there with hislike arms out and why is that nightmare

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material you? He's entered the shadowrealm. That's like, yes, I'm
gonna get you. You an anguishwith Paul. Okay, Paul, all
right, we shouldn't laugh, butit's funny. Not too we laugh at

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Paul. It's okay, he's grossed. Okay. Connor and Anthony begged Paul
to let them drive, as theyfelt that he was just not in a
fit state to do so. Onceagain, his hands were like fucking miles
apart, and you know, andthey were like, look, listen,
you've had too much to drink,and like Connor and Anthony had also had

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drink, but they were just morewith it. M hm. And at
this stage, everybody, Miley,Morgan and Mallory like they all just want
to get home. They're they're overit. Like they're over it. They're
getting a little frightened because of likePaul's behavior and so like they're just like
just we just want to get home. Yeah, you know, it's just

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like please. Paul became very angryand insisted that he was driving because it
was his both his boat, andno one was to touch it. Connor
had tried to kind of, sowhat was happening was Paul was driving the
boat and then he'd turn around tohave words with Morgan, and Connor would

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try make his way in to controlthe boat, but then that would make
Paul angry again and then he comeout, and you know, it was
all just very stress levels would bethrough the roof. Yeah, I can
imagine it's already really stressful dealing withsomebody who is drunk in the first place,

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even if they're not aggressive, Andthen on top of that, when
they are aggressive and you're on afucking highest speed vehicle of any kind,
that's really scary. After pushing thetrottle to full speed, Paul crashed the
boat into a piling on the bridgeat Paris Island. Everyone was thrown from

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the boat. Connor suffered an injuryto his jaw. Morgan needed some of
her fingers to be sutured as theskin had been peeled back. Oh isn't
that called de gloving? Yeah,on two of her on two of her
fingers. The skin was so theyhad to like stitch the two fingers to

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I think they had to like suitorthe two fingers to click together to keep
them. Yeah, yeah, Nineone one was called when they all realized
that Mallory was missing in the water. Police arrived and they had taken everyone
to the hospital except for Anthony,who refused to go until he found Mallory.
God, and if I remember,isn't there audio of him calling for

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her? So when you like,at this stage, the police are here
and they've called their parents, andI think his parents have come down and
they're trying to convince them to likego to the hospital. Just he's like,
he doesn't really have any major injuries, but of course he's been flung

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from a boat, like he needsto be looked at. And he's like,
no, I'm not going anywhere untilI find herd And you can also
see him getting very mad at Paul, because Paul is so belligerent drunk that
he doesn't even know what the fuck'shappening, and he's like, he's like,
what is wrong with you? MIt didn't take long for the public

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to start volunteering in the search partyfor Malorie. Police and volunteers searched up
and down the water for eight days. On March third, twenty nineteen,
two volunteers found Mallory's body had beenwashed up on the banks, approximately five
miles from the crash site. Anautopsy was performed and shown that Mallory had

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died from draining due to blunforced traumato the head. Oh God, which
I know this sounds awful, butmost likely means that she was like knocked
unconscious. It was literally thinking thesame thing, and I was like,
should I say it like it islike it wasn't aware of what was happening.
Hopefully, yes, like she wasn'twell fingers crossed from what it sounds

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like him she like couldn't obviously naturallybreathe and so like, Hopefully that meant
that she didn't she was unaware ofher drowning, which I know is still
horrific, but at least she hopefullygot somewhat a peaceful, yeah death,
she wasn't scared, you know.At the hospital the night of the accident,

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Paul's blood content level was point twoeight, which is three times the
legal limit. However, due toPaul being a miner at the time of
the accident, the legal limit didnot apply. Oh stop it. Paul
was being uncooperative with the police andthe nurses. He was waiting for his
grandfather and his father to arrive,and when Alex and Buster Senior arrived at

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the hospital, they tried to convinceMorgan and Miley to say that they didn't
know who was driving the boat.They did not. I thought Buster was
one of the good Oh my god. They also asked Connor to say the
same. The Murda's plan was tosay that Connor had been driving the boat
when this is simply not true,and Connor's injuries would prove this, and

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also the footage of them up onthe shore when he's like to Paul,
what the fuck is your problem?So if you look at Connor's injuries,
he could not have obtained those injuriesfrom standing at from standing at the steering
Yeah, he would have had tobeen like someone analyzed it, and so

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for basically to have suffered those injuries, he would have had to been standing
at the opposite end. They hadto sedate Paul to like look at him,
to like check him out, becausehe was just so out of it
and so beligerent that he was likebeing aggressive with the nurses and was being
so uncooperative, like it was justa mess. He clearly has issues with

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alcohol, that's a given. Butto even be that drunk, I don't
think I've ever been that drunk whereof just disrespected people who are only trying
to help me. Literally, Idon't know how you'd get that drunk.
Paul was eventually charged with three felonycounts. These included boding under the influence

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and boding under the influence resulting ina death. Good. Paul was never
given a sobriety test at the crimescene, and he was never once handcuffed.
This led to a lot of peopleaccusing the police of giving Paul special
treatment because of who he was.Mallory's family accused Alex and Buster Senior of

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supply Oh No Sorry, accused Alexand Buster Junior of supplying Paul with the
means to buy the alcohol despite himbeing a minor. Connor filed a lawsuit
against Paul and the murdaus, statingthat Alex had encouraged them to hire a
lawyer a friend of his to helpConnor, with the intent of protecting Paul

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and having Connor take the fall.So Alex went to Connor's family and was
like, you might just need alawyer. Here, here's a number of
a good friend of mine, becauseobviously I can't represent news. But the
whole plan behind this was that thefriend of Alex's would like fuck over Connor

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and his family and it would resultin Connor taking the fall. These people
are going straight to hell. Paulpleaded not guilty to three charges and was
released on bond. His mug shopwas taken in the hallway of the courthouse,
so he never went to jail.We never got the full work up.
Okay. No. Mallory's family fileda wrongful death suit against Paul and

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the murders. They accused the familyof enabling Paul's drinking under age, which
led to the death of their daughter. They also named the off license in
the lawsuit for serving Paul because theywould have known that he was not buster.
Okay, well, they shouldn't haveserved him, obviously, But at
the same time, it's not directlythere. It's kind of indirectly their fault,

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but it's not their fault that hegot so drunk. My personal opinion
on that is that they just addedthe off license in there just out of
anger, because it's you know,they're just they're angry their daughter is dead
at like eighteen years of age,Like she's gone. Yeah, I probably
do the exact same thing. ButI mean I see their reasoning in suing

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the off license. I do seeit. Yeah. Then on June seven,
twenty twenty one, Alex Murda madea call to nine one one and
around ten or six pm, statingthat he had found his quote, wife
and child been shot badly. I'vebeen up now it's bad end quote.
I've been up now, as inhe's been up to the site the scene.

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Twenty two year old Paul and fiftytwo year old Maggie had been shot
by different guns multiple times by thedog kennels on the Murdoch property. Alex
told the police that earlier in theevening he had gone for a quick nap,
then when he woke up, hegot up and he went to see
his mother and has dementia. Hestated that he saw neither Maggie nor Paul

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before heading over to his mother's.He then said that he arrived home at
around ten pm and found the bodiesat approximately ten or five pm. An
autopsy was performed on Paul and Maggie'sbodies and this showed that Paul and Maggie
had been murdered at around nine pm. Police quickly found a video on Paul's

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phone that he had taken the nightof the murder on Snapchat, and around
eight forty five pm he was takinga video and in the background you can
hear Alex Murdov speaking. So thispoked a few holes in Alex's alibi.
So Alex naturally became swiftly a personof interest. A few months later,

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on September fourth, twenty twenty one, police received another nine one one phone
call from Alex. This time hewas claiming that someone had tried to kill
him. He had been shot inthe head at the side of the road
near his home while changing at tire. Hold on, I'm so confused,

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I am so confused. So hegets home, says, Okay, my
wife and child are dead. Atwhat point did you say did he get
shot? So? At ten?Roughly at around five past ten past ten
on June seven, twenty twenty one, Alex claims that he found his wife
and his son shot murdered up bythe Now, their property is humongous,

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so the dog kennels are a gooddistance away from the house and this is
where he says that he found hefound them. So. A few months
later, on September fourth, twentytwenty one, police received another nine one
one call from Alex saying that hepulled over at the side of the road
because he had to change attire andsomeone came up and shot him in the

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head. It doesn't take long forpolice to solve this mystery, Okay.
He hired a man by the nameCurtis Smith to kill him in order for
Buster Junior to inherit the ten milliondollar insurance that Alex had taken out on
himself. But then why did hecall the police? Why? He didn't

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think Buster would win the claim ifhe committed suicide, so he asked Curtis
to assist in a suicide. OnSeptember third, the day before he was
quote unquote shot, Alex had resignedfrom his family's law firm after he had
been confronted by the shareholders for embezzlingmoney. Oh. Then on September sixth,

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Alex announced that he had a drugproblem. Oh and then he was
going to go to rehab for hisoxycodem problem. So what Alex does is
he hires this guy to shoot himto assist in suicide. And your man's
like, I guess sure, yeah, I think like shoots path like he

(28:45):
shoots them, but not like helike misses if you will. So he
like the bullet just like grazes theback of his head and he's like it
didn't go to plan. So thenhe's like fucking shit, and so then
he calls. What people believe isthat what Alex was trying to do is
set Curtis up to take the fallfor his wife and son's murder and make

(29:08):
it look like he killed his wifeand son and then came back for him.
Oh they really love setting people up, don't they not that this fucking
other dude, this shooter guy isan angel. He should have done it
in the first place, but likestill. On September fourteenth, Curtis was
arrested for assets for assisted suicide,attempt and attempted insurance fraud. He was

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also arrested for the attempted murder ofAlex. Curtis denied being involved in a
scheme to defraud any insurance companies.Alex then gave Buster the power of attorney,
which allowed him to sell off Alex'sassets. Buster then put the family
home on the market for three pointeight million dollars, but a judge froze

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the assets before putting them into receivership, which meant that the assets assets were
placed in the hands of a custodial. This was because police believed that Buster
was attempting to hide the family's moneyon behalf of Alex to help him with
his embezzlement charges that were going tobe brought against him. Okay, so

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this is getting like like not confusing, but intricate, it's getting like technical.
So shareholders of the law firm,which is Alex's family law firm,
which has been in the family sincenineteen twenty, Yeah, and they come
to him for embezzling money and he'slike, I was high, i'mould just

(30:44):
peace out. I don't know what, it doesn't matter, and then he
goes to rehab and while he's inrehab, like he hands over the power
of attorney to his son so thathis son can start selling off their assets
and start hiding their money so thatwhen they embezzle because he's like, they

(31:06):
know so charges are soon to followm So he's like, you start getting
rid of our assets, start gettingrid of the money, like start hiding
it, and so that when theycome and knock and there's fuck all for
them to find. But a judgecatches onto this, will police catch onto
this, and then they go toa judge. So a judge freezes the

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assets, which means that buster canno longer sell them, and they're now
in the custody of a custodial whichis like someone who's not related to the
family, and they just allow theyjust allow x amount of money, say
every week or every month, tocover like essentials such as bills and like

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your food shopping, right, okay, so like you're not allowed to touch
anything what Britney Spears was in kindayeah, kinda. On the fourteenth of
October twenty twenty one, Alex wasreleased from rehab and that same day police
announced that Alex was a person ofinterest in the murder of Paul and Maggie.

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He was arrested on embezzlement charges andwas placed on a seven million dollar
bail, which he could not afford. He was then eventually charged with the
murders of Maggie and Paul, andthe bail was revoked. On November fourth,
twenty twenty one, a grand jurybrought three charges against Alex. One

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of these counts was the insurance fraudattempt with Curtis. It soon became clear
how much money Alex had actually beenembezzling from his clients. For years,
Alex would take on clients to helpthem with lawsuit cases, and then he
would bezel majority of their winnings.It is estimated that Alex embezzled over twenty

(33:07):
million dollars. Oh my god,I thought you were going to say two
million there, and I was like, in the grand scheme of things,
that's twenty million. He had takenfour point three million from his old housekeeper.
Gloria and her family were not thefirst victims. On November nineteen,
twenty twenty one, Alex was indictedfour more times on another twenty seven counts

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of embezzlement. Then on December ninth, twenty twenty one, a further twenty
one charges of embezzlement, and thenagain on January twenty feet to twenty twenty
two, another twenty three charges werefiled. Twenty Yeah, so we have
twenty three charges in twenty twenty two, you have twenty one charges. December

(33:57):
twenty twenty one and you have twentyseven charges. Yeah, you've like twenty
seven counts of embezzlement in November twentytwenty one. Oh, he's going to
jail. He's going to prison.Popped up. On March third, twenty
twenty three, Alex was sentenced tolife from prison for the murders of his
wife and son. Alex is stillawaiting trial for his embezzlement charges. As

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they're pretty pretty sure they're still rackingup all of their ship. Following the
news of Alex's conviction, police announcedthat they were reopening Stephen Smith's murders,
and Buster still denies any involvement inthis. Yeah. Then, recently,
Alex admitted to lying about Gloria trippingover the family dogs. Stop it.

(34:45):
He claimed she tripped over the dogsjust so he could claim her life insurance.
So how did she actually die,We don't know. He never actually
went into detail. He just waslike, oh, yeah, no,
that was just so I could claimthe insurance on her death. God,
what a fucking scumbag. There's atheory that Paul or Maggie pushed her and

(35:10):
she tripped. That's how she thenlike tripped over the dogs and fell down
the stairs, or that there wasno dogs at all and they just they
pushed her and she like just fellthat like they reckon that. It wasn't
intent to kill her. M hm. So in the nine one one call,

(35:31):
Maggie originally is on the phone andshe's like, my housekeeper fell down
the stairs, and she's getting allflustered on the phone, and then you
can hear Paul in the background goingmad, and then he's like, give
me the phone. Oh, okay, and then he's like, let me
talk to them, right, andthen he's like, my nanny fell down

(35:52):
the stairs, she tripped over thedogs, and he's real cam when he's
talking to the operator. Yeah,he's like he changes up. So people
think that maybe somebody accidentally pushed her, or you know, they were having
a ray or they were having afight or whatever it was. Police found

(36:13):
a shit ton of drugs in thehouse under Alex Murder's bed when he was
like, ahmy or may not havean actually code own problem, so I'm
gonna go rehab real quick. Hisson fell off the assets. So why
did he kill his wife and son? It's a little bit unclear, do

(36:35):
you reckon they knew too much?Him and his wife are actually separated.
Oh, he wasn't actually living inthe house at the time, what and
he was He asked if he couldcome over for dinner that night or that
evening or something, and Maggie wasjust like, fucking sure or whatever,
don't give a shit, do whatyou want kind of a thing, because

(36:57):
I think he was like, Iwant to see my son or you know,
yeah, yeah, because everybody wantsto hang out with Paul fucking moron,
and she's just like, yeah,sure, cool. So from what
I remember, it's like he killedthem. It's a bit unsure, but
I think one theory is like hekills them because like Paul's going to prison,

(37:22):
Like Paul's gonna go to prison forsure for killing like over Mallory's death,
and it just brought too much limelighton the family. So he's kind
of like, well, now they'regoing to start and because he's been in
bezzling fucking twenty million dollars, Yeah, if you did very much, did
that at least twenty million at least, So it's kind of like he's like,

(37:44):
fucking shit, you don't ask,like, watched you that? For
now they're going to start investigating thiswhole goddamn family. Yeah, that's all
kinds of fucked up. Yeah,so it's like, m I'll kill them
and make it look like someone cameand killed us and then maybe please will
back off. And it's fucking oxyoxyde brain. He's like, yeah,

(38:07):
good idea. Yeah, it's agreat idea. I am so smart.
Go Alex Woo. Who what happensto the guy who shot the gun?
Then? Did he get arrested andjail. Yeah, he got he got
he went to jail. He gotconvicted, which like, you almost killed
somebody. So yeah, like Iwas going to pay him. Probably wasn't

(38:30):
going to pay him anything, becausethe whole theory is that he was just
setting among fall for the murders,and so it was like, yeah,
oh, totally pay you. Yeah, I'll do that when I am dead.
Like what this whole thing is veryconvluted, Like I'm just like what,
what the actual fuck? He usedto like take on cases where like

(38:55):
you like you'd be suing a companyfor something, and he'd be like,
I'll take that. I'll help youwin that, and then he wins it.
And then what he would do isthey would win and he would say
that the money is going to belarge through this fund, which is a
real fund. I can't remember thename of it for the life of me,

(39:17):
but it's a real life fund thatlike when you win a lawsuit,
your money goes through it goes throughthis process in this fund, this account
or whatever. But what he didwas he set up an account with the
same name, oh Star. Sothen you would get your letter to tell

(39:38):
you that your money has been placedin this fund and you will receive your
winnings in X amount of days orwhatever, and it would be the name
of the actual company that would dothis, and you're black right, grand
thanks, But it was actually goinginto ball fucking backcount. And what would

(39:58):
happen when the money never came.I think he would give them like X
amount of it, like he wouldlike he would split it like seventy thirty.
Do you know he'd be given themthirty percent of it, and he'd
be like, taxes men, fuckingtaxes, you know, yeah, or

(40:19):
my salary. I'm sure he was. I don't know. I'd say he
claimed some of it. I'd sayhe was like, oh no, this
was to cover my fees, butlike he'd probably already been paid. Yeah,
this was court fy xyz head orsomething x y's head. And then
taxes and then like he was lyingto them about the amount that actually had
to be paid, and then likethey'd come out with less than what they

(40:43):
won. And meanwhile, fucking Alexmurders away with his twenty million, with
his fucking massive mansion house like agiant land creepy Scalore, creepy Sons Buster
Junior is still out living his lifetalks to his dad and dad on the
regular. It's like, he killedyour mom and of course you're fooling nobody,

(41:08):
and the fact that he'd done itwith two different guns as well,
trying to make it look like therewas two different people. You're not flick.
He killed your mom and your brotherand you're just like, hey,
dad, yeah, has prison going, has prison life? Have you seen
him? They're also ugly, Paulespecially, and like you're one body dated.

(41:30):
It is so pretty. She's beautifuland like she's in the interview and
she's like I was just so likeI couldn't believe like he wanted to go
out with me, and I'm like, no, you're worth girly. Did
you see him? Fucking wide fingers? Stop you any littles. That's the

(41:57):
wild roller coaster of the murdoph familyand multiple murders. Yeah, that's all.
There were a family that thought theywere a family that thought that they
could get away with literally they thoughtthey were bigger than the law. Even
Alex's mugshot, he literally looks likean evil being. He looks like a
cartoon character, the villain. Helooks like the villain from Roger Rabbit.

(42:20):
Oh. Then I just googled villainRoger Rabbit. It's a guy in a
hat. Oh my god, whatis that? You? Okay, Alex
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