The Springfield 3

This week, Niamh covers the disappearances of 3 women from Springfield, Missouri, that to this day, remins unsolved.

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Episode Transcript

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Hi, and welcome back to giveus mark. I'm Nev, I'm Megan
And if you noticed last week therewas no Niven Meghan. It was Megan
and Ash sure was. Ash wassuper super nice to send us over with
the first and second episode from ourseries that we covered to the Black Daddia

(00:30):
on Well more so her likely killer. Um fuck, I can't remember his
name anyway, the sun like heavilyis like, I think my dad killed
her. Yeah, he like wrotelike three books in it. He also
thinks his dad is the Zodiac Killer. For that, I don't think the

(00:54):
dad well, he had like theIQ of like Albert Einstein or something.
It is because he like lived inSan Francis. Am I right? San
Francisco? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he lived in like San Francisco roughly
around the time that the like murdersthe Zodiac Killer like started. But I

(01:15):
do believe he would have been maybea bit old Zodiac. Whenever I think
of the Zodiac, I think he'slike an old dude, an old I
do think he is an older guy, but I don't know, and I
don't know jack shit. Really,we have never covered the Zodiac no,

(01:37):
which is surprising because I mentioned thecase quite rightly. I know jack shit
about that, so we should weshould cover that. Shoud I guess on
a Sam situation on the zodiac andthat would be super fun because I really
want to know who killer is.Yeah, that's like your main thing,

(01:57):
what keeps me up at night.So yeah, last week heard me and
Ash, and the week before thatyou heard the three parts by Nive on
the Yorkshire Ripper. And this week, yet again, she's carrying the fucking
Her back is aching. Knive's backis breaking and aching because she's carrying this
fucking podcast or swear god, andshe is going to be telling us another
case today. I mean, myback is aching and breaking, but not

(02:21):
from carrying the podcast. It's justdon't break my back ache, you break
you back. It's just it's justhealth problems, not not anything serious.
If you don't laugh, you're cry, and I've already done that. So

(02:43):
just me in a corner like that'sme in the corner, corner, that's
me in the spot, like mein fiber miles. Yeah tune and I
want that played at my funeral.And anyways, most definitely not carrying the
podcast because I would be nothing withoutan editor, because I say some stupid

(03:06):
shit sometimes you guys, do weall do? I really need Megan to
filter me every now and again.If you can't say that, people listen
that we know and I'm like,oh yeah, no, let me go
betteror not just put my personal lifeall out on this past. We're always

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like, we may as well atthis point give our fucking social Security number
out because we have said everything honesdamn podcast, swear to God. So
this week I have a super interestingcase. It is the Springfield Three,
which I don't know if many peopleknow what the Springfield Three are. And

(03:50):
let me tell you. The SpringfieldThree are three missing women Cheryl Levett forty
seven, her daughter Susanne Suzie Streeter, and her friend Stacy McCall eighteen,
who all mysteriously disappeared from their homein Springfield, Missouri, on June seventh,
nineteen ninety two. Sharyl Levitt wasthe mother of Suzanne Streeter, and

(04:14):
she goes by Susie. She wasforty seven years old at the time of
her disappearance. Cheryl was a cosmetologist, She was a single mother, and
she was very close with Susie,so close in the fact that Susie wanted
to start working in cosmetology as wellwhen she graduated school. Ah, that's
so sweet, isn't it. SusieStreeter was nineteen years old at the time

(04:35):
of her disappearance. She had justgraduated from Kickapoo High School, which,
yes, that is the name ofthe high school. I googled it several
times because I felt like the Internetwas trying to play joke on me.
It's called Kickapoo. Do you havea song called Kickapoo? I thought it
was a joke. I was like, good one, Internet not falling for

(04:56):
it. No, that's a realplace. Just another time. The Internet
never lied. People don't lie onthe Internet. Nope. Never. Her
friend Stacy McCall, was eighteen yearsold at the time of her disappearance.
Susie and Stacy had plans to goto college together and they wanted to have
a super adventurous summer before they startedthis brand new chapter in their life.

(05:19):
They had just graduated high school.Live in the dream. That's so cute,
I know, isn't it. Thepair had actually graduated from Kickapoo High
School on June sixth, nineteen ninetytwo, so the day before they were
officially just like missing. They hadplans to go to a party in Branson,
Missouri, which was about thirty minutesfrom Springfield, with a mutual friend,

(05:41):
Janelle Kirby. The three girls weregoing to spend the night in Branson
at a motel, and then thenext morning they wanted to go to Whitewater
Amusement Park, which I believe iskind of like what Potato Park would be
to us. Yeah, but isthe mascot and actual Potato. He's gone
now It's Emerald Park now of ourculture. This is disgusting. Why would

(06:01):
they do that? They had agood thing going any but angry about that.
However, the plan didn't happen,and the three girls decided to go
back to Springfield to Janelle's house andspend the night there instead of in Bronson,
and then they were going to goto the Whitewater Amusement Park the next

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day from Janelle's house. When theygot to Janelle's house, that they found
it was overcrowded because Janelle had alot of family staying due to the graduation
being on. Yeah. At aroundtwo am, Susie and Stacy decided that
they were going to go sleep inSusie's house because because of this, and
they told Janelle that they would ringerin the morning so that they could organize

(06:45):
what time they were going to leaveand you know, whose care they going
to take and all that kind ofstuff. Our witness saw Susie and Stacy
on Battlefield Road at about two thirtyam, and it is believed that the
two girls got home to Susie's housewith any issues. Cheryl was last heard
from between eleven to eleven thirty pmthat night. She was talking to a

(07:06):
friend on the phone about a projectshe was planning on starting soon. Nobody
saw or heard anything suspicious between elevenpm and two thirty am, However,
that was the last time anyone everheard or saw those three women again.
Okay, because I got a littlebit kind of confused there. So there's

(07:28):
Janelle Cheryl, and there is SusieCheryl and Stacy. Janelle is there a
friend whose house that they went to, but her house was too overcrowded,
so they left to go to Susie'shouse, right, Okay, So Janelle
is just like a mutual friend oftheirs, Right, Okay, I get

(07:50):
you now. Sorry. The nextmorning, Janelle rang Susie's house to you
know, start confirming the plans forthe day. It was going to take
a while, I believe, toget up to Whitewater amusement parks, so
like they needed to leave early andso get the day a going on.
Yeah, yep. After a fewcalls, Janelle left messages for the girls

(08:11):
because obviously nobody was answering, andshe was asking them to call them back
because she was like, it's gettingyou know. No, it was still
like I think it was like ninethirty or something like that in the morning,
but because they wanted to like makea day of it and stuff,
it was kind of like you shouldbe up by now. Yeah. Yeah.
Janelle decided that she was going togo around to Susie's house to see

(08:33):
what was going on, and herboyfriend came with her. The couple arrived
at Susie's house at around nine am. To look at the house. On
the outside, you would not suspectanything had happened. Nothing seemed out of
the ordinary. All the cars werestill in the driveway. They did notice
that the porch light was still on, but the casing of the light,
so the like glass casing that likewould cover the light had been smashed,

(08:58):
and all the broken glass was allover the porch. Janelle's boyfriend swept up
the glass to move it out ofthe way because he knew that something like
that would drive Cheryl mad, likeshe hated like her porch being dirty.
And then he also was like,in case anyone came out in their bare

(09:18):
feet and they stepped on the glass, I'm just gonna sweep this to the
side. That was nice of them, yea super nice. Oh god,
damn it. This did destroy vitalevidence, did nothing of that, did
nothing at all. Yeah, hewas only trying to be a good guy.
I get but you know, andI get that, like they didn't

(09:39):
think anything was wrong, do youknow sometimes maybe just leave stuff alone.
Yeah, poor guy, I canyou imagine, like I do something nice
and then you're told, like,why did you do that? I'm I'm
sorry. Never sleep again, orsweep again, or sweep again. He's
like, I'm never sweeping ever again. The front door was unlocked, so

(10:03):
the pair entered the home. Atfirst, nothing seemed out of the ordinary.
The TV was playing static, thebeds did appear to have been slept
in. All of the women's purseswere stacked together on the kitchen counter along
with her jewelry. Cheryl was achain smoker, and her cigarettes were still
on the kitchen counter, along witha check that was yet to be deposited

(10:24):
into the bank. So Janelle andher boyfriend began to feel like super concerned
and they started to get a realsense of dread because like, Cheryl's a
chain smoker and there's her cigarettes onthe counter. The three women are not
in the house. The telly isstill on, but it's playing static because
it's been on for so long.But yeah, all three cars, like

(10:48):
Cheryl's car, Susie's car, andStacy's car are like still in the driveway.
Yeah, it's like they're starting tofeel like a bit like the fuck
is going on? Like where arethey? Yeah, and like why is
there Juiciery just kind of casually outexactly as they searched the house, they
found Susie's Yorkshire terrier, Cinnamon.Isn't that so cute? The dog seemed

(11:16):
to be agitated and frantic, likeobviously the way it was barking and stuff,
but like the dog would have beenlike used to Janelle, so like
it shouldn't have been barking if youget me. Yeah, can you imagine
that? Poor dog is like,where the fuck is my owners? What
the fucking balls is going on?Cinnamon is losing his shit? Someone fucking

(11:39):
feed me. I'm gonna shit allover this house. Don't let me outside.
I'm gonna shit on these walls.I'm all over these walls. Right,
I'm a pissing your mouth. I'ma shit on these walls. I'm
a shit on these walls. Raytoo dirty. She is such an iconic

(12:01):
character in that movie What It's LaveryDay? Like, I love her,
I love it. She almost makesthe movie. Yeah she wasn't in it
wouldn't be half as good. Definitelynot so. Janelle began to panic that
something had happened to her friends andher friends ma'am. As they were searching
the house. The phone rang,and Janelle answered it in case it was

(12:22):
any one of the three women likeshe answered it thinking like, oh,
maybe it's them calling. Yeah,why they'd be calling their own house,
I don't know, but at thatstage you're just like, just in case
it's them. Instead, it wasa strange man who began saying weird sexual
comments in graphic detail. Down thephone got in front of Cinnamon. Janelle

(12:46):
immediately hung up. Shortly after,the phone rang again, and when Janelle
answered it, it was the sameman still making these lude sexual comments.
Janelle hung up straight away. Shedid tell the place about this later on,
however, they just put it intoa silly little prank call. Oh
oh oh. They must often gethorny men like saying nasty shit as a

(13:09):
silly little prank call. The policenever searched more into these phone calls.
Someone else got phone calls as well, and they just never really looked into
it. And it was kind oflike, but what even if this wasn't
part of a bigger investigation, Ifeel like, if somebody is reporting this
to you should look into it.I feel like, even if it has

(13:31):
nothing to do with the three moonsdisappearance, someone is ringing people. You're
in town and being these walls right, and they're just like silly little prank
calls. Okay. I guess Janelleand her boyfriend left the house after this,

(13:56):
and Janelle just assumed that her friendshad maybe gone to the water park
without her. She was like,maybe I missed them. Maybe they tried
to call me, couldn't get ahold of me. And just decided to
go one up. I don't know, and like you have to remember,
like she's like seventeen eighteen, Likeshe's like, nah, they're not murdered.
It's fine. Yeah, of courseyou're gonna. That's not gonna be

(14:18):
your thought. You're gonna they wentto the water park without me, you
know what. They're three friends andthen it never works out with the fourth
friend. I get it. StacyMcCall's mother, Janice, was unaware that
Stacy was at Susie's house. Thelast she had heard from Stacy was that
the girls were planning to sleep atJanelle's house. So in the morning,

(14:41):
Janice had called Janelle's home after nothearing from Stacy for a while, and
she was informed that she was notthere, that she was probably at Susie's
house. So she's like, okay. Normally, like she'd call me just
to be like, hey, I'mokay, by the way, yeah,
about to head off to the waterpark. I'll see in a little bit,
but she hadn't, so she waslike, I'm just going to call

(15:01):
quickly and make sure that everything's okay. And then they were like, oh
no, no, she's more thanlikely at Susie's eye. She didn't super
classic switchy Rue switch Rue. Afteralmost the full day had gone by without
hearing from Stacy, so Janice decidedthat she was going to go over to
Susie's house to see what was goingon. It was late in the evening

(15:22):
when Janice arrived. When Janice andher eldest daughter, Lisa arrived, they
arrived to the front door being unlockedand the shattered glass in a tidy pile
beside the door, which mean Iknow is from Jane's boyfriend. Janice found
the same scene inside the house asJanelle, the TV playing static, the
women's purses in a pile on thekitchen counter. Janice noticed that Stacy's swimsuit,

(15:48):
her change of clothes, and hermakeup was all organized in a neat
pile in the corner of Susie's room. And this was when Janice decided she
needed to call the police. Sixteenhours into the women's disappearents. So when
was it originally found? Because firstthey went over, Janelle and her boyfriend
went over at nine am at whattime with the police called sixteen hours later?

(16:10):
That's a long ass time. That'sa long time. Well, so
the women where it was probably moreNo, wouldn't have been, sorry,
my body wouldn't have been sixteen hourslater. The two girls were last seen
at two thirty am. Stacy andSusie were last seen at two thirty AM,

(16:30):
So probably sixteen hours from two thirty, which would be you're talking six
in the evening. That's a lotof mats um, yeah, roughly.
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's it'sa long time. It's a full day.
Yeah, it's it's a full daythat nobody had heard from like,
nobody had heard from the two girlsor Susie's mother, do you know what

(16:53):
I mean? I mean yeah.And then at the same time, they
graduated the day before, so yeah, they're probably thinking of it. Yeah,
probably parodying, Yeah, exactly.It's like not too suspicious, but
at the time the same time,it's a little suspicious. Janice was searching
like through the house and she accidentallydeleted a suspicious voicemail from a male making

(17:18):
sexual comments off the system. Policebelieved that the voicemail was not connected to
the phone calls that Janelle had receivedwhen she was at the house. Hew
mate, what So Janelle had beenin the house at nine am right,
got two two phone calls. Sheanswered that phone twice and it was the

(17:40):
same man making these weird sexual company. Nowhere could I find what these sexual
comments like, they're just weird sexualcomments that he was making that made her
really super fucking uncomfortable. Then JaniceStacy's mother is in the house, like
what eight hours nine hours later,and there's a voicemail of a man making

(18:03):
weird sexual comments and she accidentally deletesit and she tells police like, hey,
I was just trying to see ifI could go through it to see
if, like any of the girlshad left a voicemail. I accidentally deleted
this, And they're like, it'sprobably nothing, not related to that girl,
to that girl that told us aboutthose weird phone calls. They're different,

(18:26):
they're different phone calls. How manymen around your ten go around your
town doing that? Because it allseem to have a perfect problem. The
weirdo on the loose must be several. While Janice was waiting on the police
to get to the house, familyand friends came over to sit with her
in Cheryl's home. So like thecrime scene trampling all over the crime scene.

(18:49):
Hello, were these people trained bythe same cops who did John Banas,
I honestly think so. While there, some of them decide that they
were going to start cleaning around thehouse, wiping down countertops, moving things
around, just trying to keep busywhile they're waiting on the cops to arrive.

(19:11):
Did we learn nothing from Johanvaney becauseJohn Banay was before this, right,
that was like ninety seven. Thisis ninety nine. No, this
is nineteen ninety two. So no, Actually they should have learned from this
case. Okay, PSA, ifyou're waiting on cops to come and try
find you're missing friends, slash family, wait outside, wait outside, don't

(19:33):
fucking clean. Wait, don't clean, don't clean. I know you're trying
to do it a kindness, butjust doing anyone a kindness. This obviously
naturally did destroy any possible evidence thatwas laying around the house. So when
police arrived, they said that theywould file the missing missing person reports on
the three women. There was nothingfurther that they could do until morning because

(19:56):
it was late in the night atthe stage. The police then asked Janice
to obtain Stacy's dental records straight away. This is something that stuck out to
a lot of people, and theyfind this strange because it is a really
odd thing to do that the firstthing you do is say, by the

(20:17):
way, I need your daughter's dentalrecords in a missing person's case. Yeah,
that would have my backup a bigtime, Like no, a bit,
what do you know? This?This led a few people to believe
that there is like a cover upsomewhere in the police force in Springfield and
that they already had at least Stacy'sbody. S realiss, this is called

(20:45):
Springfield And now all I can thinkof is Chief Wigham involved in a massive
coup. I mean fucking sense likeChief Wigham. So ky Janice started to
immediately gather some photos of Stacey,and she created a missing person's flyer,
and she did this for all threewomen, like she did this for Cheryl

(21:06):
and Susie as well, which likefair play tour like even though like obviously
your main focus was going to beon your child, she's like, you
know there's other there's a woman andher child missing, also fair play.
Janis and the community went around Missourihanding out flyers to all of the shops
and to anyone that would take themin, which actually in like some of

(21:29):
the shops in Missouri. Do someof them still have the posters up?
Oh? That is absolutely heartbreaking.After days of no leads, eventually a
local waitress from George's Breakfast Restaurant,which was the favorite restaurant of Cheryl and
Susie, came forward stating that sheremembered seeing the three women in the restaurant

(21:51):
the night that they disappeared, betweenone and three am. However, the
police could not get anyone to corroborateher story, as no one else remembered
seeing them. Okay. The policethen began to look into the personal lives
of the three women in the hopesthat it would give them some sort of
lead. You know, like exboyfriends, ex husbands, you know,

(22:14):
all that unusual. Yeah. Policethen learn of Bart Street, the brother
of Susie and the son of Cheryl. Bart was nine years older than Susie.
In the early nineteen eighties, Cherylhad kicked Bart out of the house,
stating quote, if you want tolive under my roof, you have
to abide by my rules. Accordingto Bart, Bart had a drinking problem

(22:37):
and other issues. He had beenestranged from his family for almost ten years
when he moved back to Springfield,Susie and Bart became close again, and
the siblings moved into an apartment together. However, things didn't last long and
Bart started drinking again. Susie andBart then began to argue over his drinking,

(23:00):
and things eventually turned violent when Bertattacked Susie and that's when Susie moved
back in with Cheryl. Police questionedBart over the women's disappearances, but he
was eventually cleared as a suspect.And to this day, Bert is haunted
by the fact that he never gotto make things right with his mother or
his sister. Yeah, that wouldbe rough. It's something that like really

(23:25):
sits with him now. And Ithink he even still was recently like arrested
on like drug chargers and stuff.So obviously is something that he's just never
been able to overcome. God blesshim. It must be really hard,
Like obviously anything trying to give anyaddiction up is incredibly difficult. But then
when you have something heavy is likeyou're fucking family disappearing disappearing, and then

(23:47):
the police as well like questioning youfor it. Yeah, and I get
that they have to question these peoplelike completely, but you have to question
these people just to rule them out. But in a case of like his,
that's something that it's like, fuck, they think I'd done it and
do you know? Yeah, it'slike which is sad because it was something
that I think he wanted to eventuallydo. It was like make things right.

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Yeah. The police then learned ofSusie's ex boyfriend, Dustin Reckler.
Well Susie and Justin were together.Dustin had been arrested with his friend Michael
Clay for breaking into a mausoleum andstealing gold teeth from a corpse inside the
mausoleum. You yep. Michael andDustin then sold the gold teeth to a

(24:32):
pawn shop. When Susie learned ofthis, she broke things off with Dustin
naturally, and it was reported thatSusie was even going to go and testify
on behalf of the prosecution against Dustinand Michael. Wow, that sounds like
a big fat motive if I've everheard one. I swear Dustin and Michael

(24:52):
had a lot of anger towards Susieand her friends. There were reports that
Michael was overheard stating I wish allthree women are dead. Sorry, that's
just like I wish for all threewomen to disappear between the hours of three
and nine. So specific, isn'tit. When the two men were questioned
about the women's disappearances, they bothhad alibis. However, no one was

(25:15):
ever able to confirm these alibis.Police, however, did not have enough
evidence to ever charge them with thecrime. Police weren't even sure what crime
it was that they were supposed tocharge them because the women are missing,
and do charge them with murder?Do you? Because it's early on in
the investigations, so it's like,are they alive? They just kidnapping?

(25:37):
Is a murder? Like? Well, Dustin and Michael are still considered persons
of interest in the case today.Yeah, I concur I think that they
are from the line so far themost likely suspects. Yes, if it's
not a stranger, if it's nota stranger. A woman then called police
with a tip that on the morningof the women's disappearance, she was sitting

(26:00):
out on her front porch at aroundsix thirty am when she saw a Dodge
Panel van with a silver to greenhue driving past. It looked to be
a nineteen sixties or nineteen seventies model. It drove past her house, and
a woman driving it looked very distressed. She also said that she could hear
a male voice coming from inside thevan yelling back out slowly and don't do

(26:25):
anything stupid. How she heard thatfrom a moving van? Who knows?
Maybe it was like a slow movingDid you ever see that video of a
ring camera and there's a woman standingout on her front porch and there's like
a car driving by, and allyou can hear is a woman's voice going
like help it help help. You'regonna hear it as it's coming up the
road. It's mad. I onlyhave only seen the video. I don't

(26:49):
know like any background to it oranything. The woman later identified the driver
as Susie Street. The police decidedto place a similar ran outside the police
department with like all the numbers tocall on it, in the hopes that
it was going to jog people's memoryin seeing the van. A paper boy

(27:11):
who had been delivering papers late atnight the same night the women went missing,
came forward saying that he saw thevan, but it was a brown
color, wasn't a silver to greenhue. Janice never gave up on trying
to find her daughter or Susie orCheryl. She would phone national news stations
to try to keep the story inthe news all across America. And this

(27:33):
led to a tip from a guyin Florida, Florida, Florida. And
we're just going to take a quicklya led Bricue and Rebecca. So the
police have been given a tip abouta guy from Florida. He told the
police to look into Robert Craig Cox, and he claimed this man had killed
his sister, Sharon Zeller. Sharonwas a nineteen year old that was allegedly

(27:57):
murdered by Robert in nineteen seventy eight. At the time, Robert had been
in the area celebrating with his familyfor completing basic training with the Army.
Robert was staying at a hotel withhis parents, and late one night,
Robert arrived back to the hotel roomwith blood coming from his mouth and his
tongue partially bitten off. Jesus.Robert was brought to the er and told

(28:22):
the nurses he had accidentally bitten offhis own tongue. Shortly after, Sharon
Zeller's body was then found one hundredfeet from the hotel that Robert was staying
at Police were unable to formally chargeRobert with the murder as they had no
DNA evidence. They ever find histongue half tongue, I don't know.
Robert then went off and joined thearmy. In nineteen eighty five, he

(28:47):
was dishonorably discharged from the army andwas charged and convicted of kidnapping and assaulting
two women. He was then chargedwith Sharon's murder and was placed on death
row. But Robert fought these chargesand he won because there was a lack
of DNA so he was able toget the conviction overturned. That's dis graceful.

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Robert then moved to Springfield and hegot himself a job working for Stacy's
father. Oh. When police questionedRobert about the women's disappearance, he told
them he spent the night with hisgirlfriend and then went to Mass the next
morning. He would say that liarsdo pretend they go to church. They
do. Robert's girlfriend then confirmed hisalibi. However, three years later,

(29:33):
Robert's arrested for holding a gun ona twelve year old girl. Robert,
get your fucking shit together, Jesusmy god. He was then arresting,
isn't he? He was then arrestedfor armed robbery and he is currently serving
a life sentence in jail. Heshould have been there like a long time
ago. Yeah, I really shouldhave. Robert remained a prime suspect for

(29:57):
years. During an interview TV yearslater, he told reporters, quote,
I can tell you that I knowthree women are dead, and that the
person who committed the crime had experienceand they were buried close to Springfield.
Don't want to expand on that alittle bit more, Robert, please,
thank you. Police did take thestatement very very serious. However, they

(30:18):
did have concerns that Robert was justtrying to get like a little bit of
fame, like a little bit ofOh my god, who's this guy.
And then Robert's now ex girlfriend becauseshe dumped his ass for holding a gun
on a twelve year old and likeshe should came forward and stated that she
lied all those years ago and thatRobert had not spent the night with her

(30:40):
and she did, in fact notknow where he was the night the three
women went missing. Robert has madethe claim that he will tell the truth
when his mother passes away, ashe doesn't want to cause her any more
grief, which is like, peoplebelieve that's him saying I did kill them.
I am, and I will tellyou but just when my mother dies.

(31:00):
But then an awful lot of peoplealso believe that he's just saying that
to keep himself relevant. Oh yeah, I can see both sides. A
man by the name Stephen Garrison soonbecame a suspect when he told police that
his friend had drunkenly told him ata party that he had killed three missing
women. Stephen then went on togive police information that was not public knowledge.

(31:23):
Police followed Stephen's quote unquote tips,which brought them to two different properties,
and at one of the properties theyfound a green moss colored fan and
then like obviously they figured out thatlike no friend had told him this,
that he in fact was the friend. Oh I see, so he's like,

(31:47):
yeah, my friend told me.Ted Bundy did the same thing because
he didn't ever want to confess andbe like, yeah I did this,
but he was like if a guywas to do this, like my friend,
Like, pal, are you thatfriend? Are you that friend?
I think you were. A judgethen ordered a gag order on the search

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warrants of these two properties, sono one actually knows what police found or
what they were even looking for whenthey were searching them. I wonder why
that is m same Stephen is nowserving time in prison for assaulting a college
student in nineteen ninety three, andhe still remains a person of interest.

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There are so many unanswered questions inthis case. How did anybody manage to
abduct three women without a single personnoticing? How did they manage to leave
little to no evidence behind? Thereare too many theories as to what happened,
one being that the women were beingwatched and followed, another that whoever

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took them was pretending to be lawenforcement to gain access to the house,
another that law enforcement something to dowith the disappearances. A woman came forward
and said that she believed the threewomen had been buried under the foundations of
a parking lot at Cox Hospital inSpringfield. The parking lot was under construction

(33:13):
at the time of their disappearances.This woman paid she used her own money
to have a specialist use excavation equipmentto try see if there was any remains
underneath the foundation, and this provedthat there were three items, possibly bodies,
lying on top of each other inthe parking lot garage underneath the concrete

(33:36):
Jesus. There is no evidence thatit is the three women. However,
police refused to dig up the parkinglot, stating it would cost too much,
despite the hospital granting permission to digup anything if it helps find the
women. The woman was too stunnedto speak. I don't know what to
say to that. Most commonly,people believed that the three women were abducted

(33:58):
by professionals and sold into the worldof human trafficking. That last theory is
the one that is to me thescariest, and it's the one that's more
the most likely. Yeah, sextrafficking is like, this is nineteen ninety
two. Sex trafficking is rampant,but it's something that's not talked about,

(34:22):
and so it's something that they don'tknow to look out for. So if
someone pulls up to the house andit's like, hey, can I come
in and use your phone, they'relike, sure thing, you know what
I mean, Yeah, it's fucked. I don't know. It kind of
makes me think that it's somebody thatthey know, because in my head,
the way it's playing out is thatthe person went up to the porch,

(34:44):
and I tried to knock the lightso that when they turn on the light
they wouldn't be able to it wasn'tthe door. Exactly the theory with the
police being involved, I get it, because why won't they dig up the
like why won't they dig it up? They dig it up? And why
did they ask for dental records?Yeah, but in saying that as well,

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I just think it's more than likelyI there has to have been more
than one abductor, because how doyou get three women? How do you
get how do you take three womenwithout a peep or without leaving behind some
sort of evidence unless he had abig gun or some sorry even still think
the dog or something. I don'tknow. In that scenario, if there's

(35:28):
three of you and there's one likeintruder, you would think to yourself,
we could overpower it, like there'sthree against one here. And I think
that's why a lot of people thinkthat it was somebody that they knew,
or like somebody in law enforcement,like somebody that they trusted that when he

(35:51):
came in, that it was acase of So I believe what's commonly thought
of is that it is sex traffic, but it was organized by someone that
they knew, and like an officercame in and said, hey, look,
I need us to vacate the premisesbecause there is a madman on the
loose and can keep you safe.So I need you to come at me.

(36:15):
Yeah, and like that's how heyeah, and that's how like you'd
take three women without a single fuss. Janice McCall has never given up the
hope that maybe her daughter is stillalive. She hopes and believes that Stacy
would still be found. Janice foundeda nonprofit organization to try help other families

(36:40):
of missing people. Every year,Janice Hope hosts a visual for Stacy,
Susanne, and Cheryl. If you, the listener, are from the area
and have any information regarding the threewomen, you can leave an anomalous tip
with the Springfield Police Department. Youcan text four one seven SPD along with

(37:02):
your tip two two seven four sixthree seven, or you can call four
one seven eight sixty nine eight fourseven seven. Good damn. And that
is the case. The women arestill missing eleven years, eleven years to

(37:23):
hear me thirty one years later.That is absolutely haunting. Yeah, this
is the part when I say thisis an interesting case. I find it's
so interesting that someone managed to justbreak in and take three women and nobody

(37:43):
saw a single fucking thing. Yeah. Or there's another thing. What if
he was never in the head.Well, no, because the purses were
there, because my brain went to, like they were seen at the diner,
by your words, diner. Whatif they were coming in and he
got them just as they were comingin, he waited in the porch.
See the reason the person's stuff,but because well as well as like um,

(38:09):
Stacy's like clothes were in the houseand that like her clothes for the
next day. But so Stacy andSusie had been out like celebrating their graduation
while Susie's mother, Cheryl, wasat home, so like and like she
didn't even know the two girls werecoming back to the house. I am

(38:30):
some people believed that it was likesomebody watching Cheryl and that they were going
for Cheryl. Yeah, and thenjust Susie and Stacy rocked up and they
just like rolled with it. Yeah, And like why was nothing stolen?
That's the thing, Like, that'swhy I think a lot of people think

(38:51):
sex trafficking because like nothing was taken, Like there was a check und undeposited
there, Like they could have takenthe check, the check, the jewelry.
You can sit in any of thosepersons makeup perfume, do you know
what I mean? Like, noneof it was taken, So it was
a bit like what so Like That'swhy I think a lot of people do
lean towards the sex trafficking, likethat they were only there for the women.

(39:15):
Yeah, and where from from whatI believe from research and stuff,
where they lived in Springfield. Ibelieve there is highways all around it,
all right. The fact that ittook someone sixteen hours to contact police,

(39:37):
Yeah, they just had to geton a highway and they were gone.
Oh they were long gone. Sixteenhours is enough of a head start to
give anyone, anybody, you know, Yeah, get away. A lot
of people, I think to givehate to Janelle for not calling. She's
an eighteen year old girl. Sheisn't thinking that her friends and her friend's

(40:00):
mother has been kidnapped. She's thinkingthey've probably the mother is probably at work
and they've probably gone off to thewater park without me. Forgot to lock
the door. Yeah, Like thehouse wasn't in disarray. The only thing
that was broken, was the porchlight, And the light itself wasn't even
broken. It was just the casefrom yeah, like to look at the

(40:22):
house. Is it weird that thechelle was on? Yes? Is it
weird that the porch light was onwas broken? Yes? And is it
weird that the door was open?Yes. But it's always like when you
hear of these stories, it's like, oh, the ten was so safe,
you could just leave your front doorand locked, Like no, no,
no, no, you don't dothat. You don't do that.

(40:44):
First of all, cars exist,anyone could be driving through your ten.
Second of all, you don't knowall your neighbors, even like my like
not being funny, but my house. If I know I'm having company over,
I'm cleaning my house like Spake andSpan or like tidying shit away,
Like I don't want people I knowwalking in and like seeing how I live,

(41:07):
Like I don't want you to justwaltz on into my house, like
open up the door and I'm likein a different room and you're like,
hey, I've entered. Yeah,what if like you know, you're in
the shower or you're naked or whateverand someone just walks right on in.
No, no, thank you.Lock your doors, please honestly lock your

(41:28):
doors and lock your windows. Two, just just lock everything, okay,
and get blinds and get curtains.This needs to be like stranger danger kind
of vibes, like lock your doors, lock your honestly. Years ago,
I'm like decades ago, Ireland didthe same, but then it soon became
clear that it could not be athing and we stopped doing it. And
yeah, in Ireland, nothing issafe. A few years ago, my

(41:52):
dad's work fan got robbed like whilein the middle of the day while there
were people in the house. Oh, my next door neighbors work van was
robbed there like last year or theyear before, like ten o'clock at night
or something like that. And hiswife like m was closing like the curtains

(42:14):
of like one of the rooms upstairs, and she like saw them. She
didn't know what they were doing atfirst, and she was like, what
is that And she said she wasshe was scared to knock on the window,
yeah, because she didn't know whatthey were doing, and you know,
so she like rang the place orwhatever. But like like she's staring

(42:36):
at them from the window and they'restill breaking into his van. You know,
yeah, you cannot leave in Ireland. You cannot leave anything unlocked anymore.
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