Adult Film Legend Sara Jay

Sara Jay is one of the most famous and beloved Adult Film stars in the history of the business. She and Glenn have known each other for nearly 20 years and have a great conversation about about racism in porn, her advice to guys who send dick pictures, shooting porn in the COVID world, and much more!

Episode Transcript

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Hi everyone, and welcome to anotherepisode of Mature Audiences Mayhem. My name
is Glen King. It is mygreat honor to bring you this podcast where
we talk about the things that otherpodcasts either cannot or will not or just
fail to talk about. That is, things that are for mature audiences only.
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overused phrase. Not in this case. My guest today needs no introduction.
She is simply one of the greatestperformers in the history of the adult entertainment
industry, maybe the greatest performer inthe history of the adult entertainment industry.
She is stunningly beautiful with a bodythat just makes people pass out when they

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see her. She's the girl thatyour favorite celebrity when they get caught masturbating
to porn. That's who they getcaught masturbating too. She is not only
a performer, she is a producerand a talent agent and many many other
things. She is the great SarahJoe, Thank you so much. Insane
introduction. I really appreciate it.You deserve all those accolades and more.

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Of course, you're just an amazingperformer. I'm thrilled to have you on
the show here today. Thank youso much for doing this. You and
I met in two thousand and three, I believe. Yeah, it's totally
possible. I started in two thousand. Yeah. We shot you for a
scene back then with Deviant David,with David Christopher. Yeah. Yeah,
you still look like exactly the sametoday. I'm amazed by that. Thanks.

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Yeah, unlike me. Uh,you know, you are aging extremely
well. You look fantastic. You'rewearing a top that is about ten sizes
too small for your boots today.It's so at some point during this interview,
I'm sure the boobs are going toexplode right through there. Yeah.
It's it's got all these like hooksand eyes, so like hold me together.

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It's this is like the one Iwear every day. It's the only
thing that I can like stop jigglingin. Yeah, and this is your
workout outfit. You're going for aworkout after this, I am. I'm
going for a nice long ten milewalk. Yeah, it should be good.
I usually go through this like fancyneighborhood, the Coral Gables and look

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at all the big million dollar homes. But this time today, I'm really
excited because I'm gonna go a totallydifferent direction. I'm gonna go towards the
Keys and take the bridge across overto Virginia King which it's gonna be really
cool. That's exciting. I mean, this is this is Miami that we're
talking about. What's the temperature goingto be Probably close to ninety Okay,

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well that's not too bad. Butwhat with the it's very humid out there,
no doubt with the heat index,it's probably very hot. So you're
gonna be sweaty. I will besweating them. I'm already sweating. Keep
it wrong. We just stay wethere in Miami. Everybody just stay sweating.
Yeah. Well, if you're oneof our fans with a sweat fetish

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that listens to the show, thenyou should go to Miami. Here's my
suggestion, you'll see lots of sweatygirls. Yeah. I just gonna mention
I used to go on a hikeright about that that length when I was
living in in Cino. I usedto go up a mountain, so the
first mile would kind of be straightup. That was the tough part,
and then you had twelve miles verylow grade downhill, and then you got

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to the ocean in the end.But the part of the story that kind
of leads us into our first topicis that by the end of the hike,
I had to go through Pacific Palisadesto get to the ocean, and
to get there, I had togo through just dirt, I mean,
with no no civilization around it atall. You would go for miles with

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no cell phone signal, you know, just kind of clomping through the dirt.
Yeah. And but by the timeI got to Pacific Palisades, I
was covered in dirt and look likea homeless person and not fancy. Right,
Pacific Palisades. Yeah, that's wherethe celebrities, um, who are

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way above regular celebrities live right Like, just because let's say you start in
you know, ten major motion pictures, you probably still can't live in Pacific
policys. Oh wow, really eliteneighborhood. Yeah, so I figured the
cops were just going to swing byone day and just go, yeah,

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listen, you're not breaking any laws, but you don't belong here, and
right and pick me up. Andthat kind of brings me to the first
topic I want to talk about withyou today. You're very outspoken on the
topic of racism in our industry,and we're going through some changes in some
tumultuous times in the industry right now. Let's just get your thoughts on where

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we stand in the industry on thetopic of racism. You know, it's
it's so good that we're finally makingsome changes because it's always been a struggle
for me as a performer that performswith all different types of people and I
direct scenes with all different types ofpeople, because we make products generally for
a racist world. No matter whatour heart is and what our feelings are,

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there's so many people out there thatconsume our products that are racist,
and there's even people that are notnecessarily racist, but their feelings are not
so clear on how they stand.It might even like fetishize race, and
those are things that like I alwaystried to like steer clear from as a

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performer, but even more importantly asa producer. And it was important to
me to become a producer because Ididn't see the type of I are quote
unquote scenes that I wanted to see, Like where's the Spanish people, Where's
the Asian people? Where's the Spanishpeople and the black people having sex?

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Where's the Asian people and the whitepeople having sex? Like I just didn't
really see, like and then alsoI felt like this issue of them fetishizing
having sex outside your ethnicity was somethingthat wasn't necessary, you know, like
you could just have like a regular, you know, typical naughty America type

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scene where you're fucking your neighbor,but your neighbor has to be you know,
a different ethnicity. That's fine,Like we have neighbors of all kinds
of ethnicities, I'm sure, youknow. So I really wanted to just
kind of like create products that likenormalized having sex outside of your race as
opposed to fetishize it, you know, as a producer and as a pornotter.
First, we plant these little seedsin people's minds at very young ages,

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little images that stick with them therest of their life. So it's
really important that we are responsible withthose images. You know, it's really
important that we are careful what seedswe sew because they will take those little
plants and those little plants will growinto big trees. And you know,

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I just feel like we have tobe the change that we wish to see
in the world. Yeah, someof its market driven. So for example,
you did your first interracial scene,win and did you get paid extra
for your I wouldn't. I've nevera septic extra. Now, Like everybody
asked me, oh, what's yourIR rate? And I said, I
don't understand what you mean. Thatmakes sense to me. I'm sorry.

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And I couldn't tell you when myfirst ir scene was because I did not
make a big deal about it,like I was just having sex, Like
it may have been one of myfirst first few scenes. I have no
idea, like that doesn't matter tome, and like I didn't understand why
it mattered to other people, tobe honest with you, Okay, so
ir rates now, So I ama activist in the industry behind the scenes,

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you don't tend to see me tweetingas much. Although I have tweeted
on this particular topic quite a bit, but I'm a pesky voice behind the
scenes that is constantly demanding to speakwith the head of the FSC, the
agencies everybody in push what I thinkare obvious topics. Now this one.
I called three or four different agentstwo weeks ago and said to them,

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interracial rates. If somebody charges adifferent rate based upon race, is that
not the very definition of racism?And everyone agreed with me. Okay,
So the answer in their defense thatthey gave, or you know, the
legitimate answer was an agent is theoreticallyjust a representative, you know, a

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middleman between clients and producer, andtheir job is to take an offer from
a producer and put it in frontof their clients, and if their clients
says, I don't want to dosomething for that rate, they're supposed to
present the counter proposal to the tothe producer. And that's why they have
been doing it, was their reasoning. But now they did all put out

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an announcement last week saying that althoughthat is our job is to negotiate rates
between performers and producers, it isnot acceptable for us to allow anyone to
set their rates by race. Absolutely. I mean I always you know,
I've always heard that part of thereason why there was a different IR rate

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for some girls was because, youknow, men of color had tended to
be a little bit bigger or tendto be a lot bigger. And I'm
like, well, that's the casecharged by the inch right right exactly.
You know, like, there's plentyof white guys with big dicks too,
like, and there's plenty of whiteguys that have rougher sex than black guys.

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So I always felt like that wasjust like some bullshit and I wasn't
going to listen to it. Thenas a producer, when it comes to
me casting, I really appreciate someonelike you who speaks to others and tries
to dissuade them, you know,to do the right thing. But I've
always felt like I could only dowhat I can, only be that change
that I want to see. Sowhen I'm hiring, you know, talent

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for a production, I don't say, you know, do you do?
I R? I don't give afuck if you do, I R.
I want to know if you're goingto work with Rome Major. I want
to know if you're going to workwith King noir. I want to know
if you're gonna work with shand Idon't care why if you don't want to
work with them, are you goingto work with them or not? Right?
And I feel that that, youknow, I understand that people come

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from different backgrounds and they have differentupbringings and maybe this is something that they're
not comfortable with. And even thoughit's wrong, I'm not going to force
you to like have sex with somebodythat you don't want to have sex with.
But I want you to speak onthe individual and not the people as
a whole. Well said, Wellsaid, you know, And of course,
for the record, we mean BitchProductions my company. We've shot from

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day one, black, green,blue, yellow, you know, we've
we've always I've always looked for beautyperiod. I want glamorous girls. I
want girls who stand out, andrace has never been a consideration. But
you do get into the question thenof like tagging okay labels in this is

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where maybe we might disagree just alittle bit, because, for example,
there was a controversy a couple ofyears ago about the word race play,
and so I want clips band raceplay, and I say this is stupid,
not because I'm not against race playthe form that it default too.
I mean, race play is whenyou have a racist video most of the
time, where you've got a whitegirl degrading and yelling, you know,

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saying a word, or the otherway around. You know, a white
guy degrading a black girl, andthat's not okay. But my problem is
is that eliminating the word race playdoes not solve the problem. It only
removes the tag. The companies thatwere making those racist videos continue to make
them, but then they just changethe tags on them to race fantasy or

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something like that. I can understandthat. You know, that brings up
another big topic within our conversation thatwe're having within the industry right now is
the term of ir aeration. Andyou know, we can't actually get rid
of that tag. That's a youknow, I personally I like to watch

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people. This is gonna sound crazy, but like I really find that when
you see people of different ethnicities havingsex. I don't care what in the
ethnicities, but when you see peopleof different ethnicities having sex, it is
the most beautiful thing to me becausethey're overcoming history, they're overcoming tradition,

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they're overcoming differences. And they're comingtogether for the sake of fucking, which
is like so hot. That's likethe hottest thing. So we need to
have that labeled in some kind ofway. But I do feel like the
term interracial needs to be broadened whenI shoot interracial Spanish people, Cuban people,

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you know, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Asian people, all this mixed
people like everything, you know,it doesn't matter, like, but I
do like it when the skin colorsare all different, you know, Like
I like to see a dark skinblack woman with a Spanish guy, you
know, with a medium color,brown kind of color, you know.

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So um, yes, I likedifferent colors of skin, and I think
it looks great. And I alsolike, subconsciously it's like the symbol of
love to me because I really feelthat, like you're overcoming all of these
like challenges that we have in theworld to fuck and that's so hot,
so I think, you know,and on the same page that you are,

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like, we can't get rid ofsome of these seo words. Not
only that, but we also haveto remember we do make products for people
that are not of our like mind, yes, and we also have to
have some kind of term to explainwhat these scenarios are and stuff. But
that doesn't mean that we have tomake a racist product. Absolutely well,
and that's the core issue is weneed to you get everybody in this mind

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or out of the mindset that iscausing this racist would happen in our industry.
And part of that mindset is becauseproducers use gut instinct to tell them
what's going to sell and what's not. Very few producers use actual statistics,
and most of it is sort ofpassed on from generation to generation of producers.

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So producers are told when they getin the business that you know,
eighteen year old girls are the hottest, you know, commodity, that's how
you sell, that's the easiest wantsto sell, and that African American females
don't sell. That's what producers perceivecompletely. I mean, I can tell
you from my experience. Yeah,you know, African American performers of all

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types sell very well. It's simplya matter of developing your marketplace. If
you only hire a token black persononce a year or a token black female
once a year, your audience didn'tjoin for the kind of diversity. So
yeah, she's not going to getthe kind of numbers. But if you're
consistently just picking the beautiful women overand over again, you developed, you

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add, you make more money becausepeople are joining for all types instead of
just to see, you know,blonde girls with big boobs. I've gotten
so many crazy comments over the yearsbecause I have done so much in a
racial and you know, people becauseof this like template or like you know,

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like just this strained mindset that peoplehave as far as producers go and
stuff, they have actually approached methinking like how could you be so popular
when you do I R And I'mlike, how can you not be?
Like, how can you not?Like if I didn't do black eyes,

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if I didn't do people of color, yeah, I would like section out
a whole section of fan base.Of course, you know, I might
not be Sarah Well, I knowI wouldn't be Sarah J if I only
had sex with white people absolutely,of course. You know, um,
you know the idea that was proposedas part of the things that the African

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American performers or them. You know, there was a big forum recently and
they I thought they proposed some verygood ideas to a v N. One
of them I didn't like and itwas in on the apack. This one
was um I didn't see this one, but I think it was xbiz that
did this. Yeah at that one. Okay, so the apap but I

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went to x BIZ. I didwatch the one that had Misty Stone and
um and and and a Fox anda couple of other performers together. That
was wonderful. One thing I justagree with there was a lot of people
there. Yeah, and they makea lot of great points, and you
know, and a lot of whatthey were saying was simply just give the

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African American reformers the same opportunities thatthe Caucasian one gets. One thing that
was suggested to me based upon thatwas that, hey, well you should
put together like a mean black Bitcheswebsite or just you know, a black
on black And I said, youknow the problem with that is that that's
reverse. Now you're going back tosegregation. Yeah, that doesn't right.

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You got to mean bitches. Youshould be able to see all that,
right, that's what you get rightnow. I've actually kind of stopped shooting
for some of my subsites and justdo mean bitches all the time as the
time now, so that I canjust take the best performer and put her
in the best environment. And ifit so happens that she's, you know,
somebody who's got dungeon skills, thengreat, we'll shoot a mean dungeon

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scene. But we're just trying toget the best scene. But I don't
want to segregate performers and say,oh, you're black, Well, we'll
just that's great, come on overhere and away from everybody, latch on
the black side. Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree with you
off one hundred percent. You know, that forum was so interesting and it
was so great to listen to somuch pain. You know, there's so

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many performers and so many people inthe world that are experiencing so much pain,
yes, and you know they reallyneed a place to like vocalize it
and let it out and also likechannel that pain and energy into something productive.
The Cinnamon Love was on there aswell, like in the chat area,

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and she's come up with a BIPOPcollective, you know, Black Indigenous
people of color collective, a placewhere you know, people can talk freely
and openly without white people there andhelp, you know, try to come
up with revisions and answers and solutionsto some of the real problems that we
have within the industry. Yeah,and we need it. I mean,

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I shot gorgeous Afro last week forso that I've been wanting to shoot her.
She is a doll, She's wonderful. We definitely look forward to you
know. Of course, it washer first femdom scene. We do a
lot of girls first femdom scenes,um, and she just took to it

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very easily and did well. Herdialogue was great, her big beautiful butt
is wonderful. And I was inthe scene with her personally, and I
loved it. I loved being underneaththe big to do list. Do it?
Uh? She? I thought?I saw her travel schedule was taking
her to Florida this week, actuallyat Land. Now I think, oh

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okay, Well then in in fact, that will bring us to our next
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(21:22):
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gonna talk about COVID. This issomething that I have been I've spent hours
and hours of my life every daybehind the scenes harassing people for the last

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month and a half, and thenyesterday it blew up on Twitter as I
expected finally to do where people weregoing to come at me. Let's talk
about shooting in the COVID world.You're back to shooting because I saw you
went to TTS or No, you'renot shooting, but you did go get
COVID. I haven't started shooting it. I just I'm paranoid about testing,
to be honest with you. Andmy my mom is got respiratory illness.

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So in order for me to feelcomfortable going to visit her, I go
get COVID tested before, like onthe way to her house. She lives
five hour drive, so if Iget tested at like eleven am, the
test gets back by like six pm. So I go get tested, and
then I come back home and packmy bag, and then I go and
by the time I get to herhouse, I get my test back.

(26:45):
That's great. Yeah, yeah,it's It's been really important for me because
I love my mom. M.Yeah, she quit smoking like cigarettes what
a year ago, and ever shedoesn't really like doctors and stuff, so
she's just been trying like holistic things. But ever since then, she's had
like what I'm gonna guess is somekind of like possible emphysema type situation.

(27:10):
And so it's really important to methat she stays safe. Yeah, and
I you know, I'll be honest. This whole COVID thing, I really
don't know, and I don't thinkanybody knows. And I don't trust the
information that we're given. I don'ttrust the numbers. I don't believe.
I don't know if I believe themasks are going to save us. I
don't know. But there's certain thingsthat I feel like I can do that

(27:33):
are like no big deal, justin case. You know, if I
wear my mask everywhere, I lovemy mask. I wear my mask everywhere
I go, no complaints. I'mnot arguing about it. I go get
tested before I see my mom.But you know, this whole like shooting
thing has been a challenge to evenlike wrap your brain around, like how
are we going to start doing thisagain? And what we did? I

(27:56):
just decided to be proactive because atthe time FSC hadn't really said anything yet.
I sat in on an fc meeting. This was you know who I'm
about a month to month and ahalf ago. I sat in an FSC
meeting, and you know, theirstance is that they cannot recommend that we

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start shooting, but they are awarethat we will anyway, and they were
about to start to put together guidelinesfor shooting and we kind of like during
the meeting, we kind of likediscussed what some of the possible guidelines would
be and stuff. And from thatmeeting and then taking the information that we

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are given from the CDC and thewho and how. I also felt like
it was very important to take informationfrom the people that I work with.
So I'm not an Asian, butI'm a talent manager, and I called
on my talent together. I calledall my directors together, my you know,
talent coordinator, all of us allall got on a zoom call and

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I just discussed all of my knowledgewith them and the proposed the possible proposed
guidelines and I wanted to get theirfeedback because I know that some people on
my team, you know, feelmuch differently than other people on my team.
So I wanted to get everybody's feedbackbecause I'm shooting them. What I
do as a manager, not onlydo I manage people's brands and guide them

(29:27):
in business sense and direction, butI've also produced content for them as their
producer. So it's important to methat everybody is comfortable because I'm doing everything
that I do is for them.So we got together and we decided that
we were definitely not going to startshooting until at least mid July at the

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earliest. And when we start shooting, we were all going to start shooting
what we consider pods. So takelike a small group of people, everybody
get tested, everybody he stays atthe shoot house and limits contact. And
also in doing that, we're notjust going to be casting like willy nilly,
just random people. We're gonna becasting at first, people that we

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know that we can trust to beresponsible and you know, not be on
the beach or partying or like whateverduring off time, and you know,
shoot for like three to five days, just bang it all out and shoot
all different combinations of this small groupof people. Everybody felt really comfortable with
that. So that's what we've decidedto do. We've decided to put together

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at first POD starting July thirteenth.Yeah, I agree with everything that you
just said, especially everything except onething. I'll get to the one thing
in a second, but especially gettingtested and wearing a mask isn't necessarily for
us. It's to protect other people. And if I can, you know,
there's I think there's very little chancethat I would ever get COVID in

(30:56):
a situation where it would be devastatingfor me. I'm very healthy. But
there is a excellent chance for allof us that you could get asymptomatic COVID
and then turn around and give itto somebody, although that only happens in
sixteen percent of cases according to theWorld Health Organization, but sixteen percent right

(31:17):
now. Yes, they changed thingsoften, although we do learn things as
we go, and we know morethan we knew back then. But I
got tested the minute that TTS,like yourself, the minute that TTS started
offering testing, I went down thereand got tested, and I wear my
mask and I listen. I respect. I'm a libertarian I'm a compassionate libertarian.

(31:40):
Would be the closest philosophy I have. So I want to have no
rules and no laws and no governmentinterference. But the problem, as is
a compassionate person, is you startgetting into Okay, so you don't want
any laws, But wouldn't you liketo have traffic lights to prevent accidents of
being happened? Yes? I wouldlike that. Well, wouldn't you like

(32:00):
to do something to help the homelesspeople? Wouldn't you like some kind of
thing in place to help people whohave lost their jobs? Yes? Yes,
yes, yes, yes, ButI want to be so if you
say I don't want to wear mymask because I don't want my freedom taken
away, I get it totally.However, if there is a point one
percent chance that I could save somebody'slife by wearing my mask in the grocery

(32:23):
store, I'm wearing a mask.I agree with you one hundred percent on
that. I really do. Like. Like I said, I'm not sure
what I believe, but I haveno problem wearing a mask. It's not
a big deal. Actually, tobe honest with you, I've been waiting
all my life to wear a mask. A little bit of anonymity. I
look forward to putting my mask on, yes, every day. Yeah,

(32:46):
sometimes I forget and I leave iton, even in situations where it's not
required like that whatever. I lookforward to standing in grocery lines where there's
a blue line six feet behind metelling people to back the fuck off.
So I love those please step away. No, it's been so great because
there's been so many times in mylife where I felt like people like breathing

(33:08):
down my net and I'm like,oh my god, please, and I'll
like walk away from them. They'relike right there, and You're like,
please just get away from me.But now I have like the total like
right to be like, excuse me, do you mind stepping six feet away?
Yes? Yeah, it's now okayto say to the person blue line,
buddy, would you mind please?Social distancing? Yeah. The only

(33:31):
area that I sort of disagree withyou on, and it's it's really not
a I think you should do ita certain way, but is just in
terms of time frames, and thisis just it's everybody's personal choice when you're
comfortable going back to shooting. Buta point that I've been making to the
FC for the last month or sois that Nothing has changed in Nevada from

(33:52):
May ninth to June ninth, andnothing will be different on July nine than
it is right now. And soa matter of fact, the different things
that we have more cases per daythan we did in May, we would
have been better off shooting in May. Of safety rocketing right now at same

(34:14):
same from Nevada, we're one ofyou know, when they have the map
now where they show the reddish statesto show where the thing is out of
control, it's it's here, andit's it's because of So I've spent a
lot of time on the phone withdoctors. It's what don't you think it's
because of tourism. We bore bothin tourist places and all these people are
bringing their COVID from other places here. It's bars the problem is so what

(34:42):
we've discovered about COVID. So myone of my brothers is a frontline COVID
doctor, and I've been able tospend a lot of time with him understanding
the data as it comes in,and he's shown me how to how to
read the the data that's coming outfederally and statewide and whatever. We've learned
a few things U outdoors in Miamiheat, outdoors in Nevada heat with a

(35:05):
little bit of wind blowing, you'revery unlikely to get it, very unlikely,
but possible, you know, don'tdon't. Let's let's be clear here
with people. We're not talking aboutzero percent chance of anything. What we're
talking about is reducing risk. Outdoors, you're unlikely to get it. In
the grocery store, you're unlikely toget it by touching an object. You

(35:28):
know, Originally we were concerned.People said, wash your packages and wash
your groceries, and you're not gonnaget it because somebody touched a box of
check cereal and then you picked upthat box of check cereal. Yeah,
grocery store, if somebody's kind ofyou know, talking up close to you,
there's no ventilation circulation of air,and the grocery store it's indoors.

(35:49):
You got a problem there. Ifsomebody coughs kind of near you, they
can send the particles in your face. You should probably wear it in the
grocery store for sure. But thereal problem is in bars and restaurants.
You go to a bar and oneperson can be in. One friendly person
that walks around that bar can walkaround and talk to twenty people in a

(36:09):
given night, and twenty people canwalk out of there with it and not
even know that they then five dayslater are giving the disease out to other
people. And that's why you're seeingthese things in Vegas. It's because we
started opening up the bars. Thecasino tables aren't that big of a deal.
The dealers wearing a mask and nowthey have shields and everything, Right,

(36:30):
that's cool, but it's that faceto face contact, you know.
Yeah, it's definitely the same year, you know, and because we're Florida,
people just are really belligerent against likethe whole mask thing in general.
It's interesting, Like I do takethis drive up to my mom's and she's
in central Florida. I take thisdrive up to my mom's, you know,

(36:51):
every few weeks now, and onceI hit like a certain like area,
like I guess pretty much after WestPalm Beach, nobody is wearing a
mask at all, and they're lookingat you crazy, Like nowhere, like
nobody is wearing a mask anywhere,and they're looking at you crazy for wearing

(37:12):
a mask, like literally, youknow, I hit gas stations along the
way and step once I hit afterWest Palm Beach, Like people look at
me and like laugh at me forhaving my mask on. I don't care,
Like, yeah, it doesn't botherme. I'm sorry if my mask
is bothering you, but it definitelydoesn't bother me. And like I said,
like I've been waiting for my momentto like wear a mask my whole

(37:35):
life. Yeah no, And Ithink, you know, you break it
down that way. Tourism is aproblem because what do tourists do at night?
They go to bars and restaurants,chure And we've just got so many
more people here now like it was. I'll be honest, like I love
Miami. It's my city. There'snothing that could change that. But it
was so pleasant during COVID, LikeI go on these walks like once a

(37:59):
week where I do the ten milesand like it's just peaceful and less traffic
and it has just been so nice. And now it's all back. But
like I live by kind of likeby the airport, like the planes have
to fly over me, like realclose, and it's like more planes,
more cars, there's just more peopleeverywhere. I saw a video yesterday of

(38:23):
Fort Lauderdale, like a little likestrip in Fort Lauderdale, just masses of
people, nobody wearing mask. Nobody'ssocial distancing, at least here where I've
been anyway, For the most part, people are wearing masks, and businesses
are social distancing to a certain extent. A lot of businesses haven't opened up

(38:45):
back up because they're just fearful,you know. But it's it's a real
challenge to try to make that decision, like he said, to shoot.
And I think the reason why weand I with you, that it's probably
riskier to do it in July thanit was in May. And I wouldn't

(39:05):
be surprised if we decide to cancel, to be honest with you, Yeah,
yeah, And you know, um, like I said, I'd take
everybody's opinion into consideration. My mom'sgot an issue, health issue. I
know, Um king he just hada baby, and he would never want
his baby to get sick, youknow, and like he's got a you

(39:28):
know, mother or grandmother or something, and so like, you know,
you have to take all that stuffinto consideration. So if you know,
we check back in and we're notgoing to shoot, it's like no pressure,
it's fine. But um, youknow, if we want to take
the opportunity and do that. We'regoing to do it the safest way possible,
and that means get everybody tested,stay all together, shoot as much

(39:50):
as we can in the shortest amountof time possible, and then set everybody
free. And of course the newthing is that, you know, we
definitely have to get our crew,our cameraman are you know, We've got
a behind the scenes cameraman, aregular camera, and we got to get
them both like tested for COVID.Yeah, that's what everybody's gonna have to
get tested. Yeah, we've beenshooting and we have on every Monday.

(40:10):
Basically I take my crew up therewith me. Kim Jimmy gets tested,
our makeup artist gets tested. Iget tested whether I'm in the scene or
not, and then we shoot thescene. Now we've I mean, you
know, like I said, I'vereviewed my plan with the doctor, with
a lawyer who deals with workplace safetyissues, with the FSC, with the

(40:30):
with several agents, producers, performers. We think that even with COVID cases
spiking, if you can have anenvironment where you have two people performing in
a scene that have been tested withina few days of the scene for COVID
and they're not showing symptoms. That'svery important. They're not showing symptoms that

(40:52):
you can you can get that riskdown pretty significantly below one percent, and
that's all you can do. Workabsolutely, you know, um literally.
The thing that's like it was hardfor meter at my brain around was well,
first of all, I'm very gladthat talent testing was able to help
us get the window return back reallysmall. You know, it's like,

(41:15):
what's if I get tested at eleven, I get the result back at like
six, So that's great, butyou know, we don't have that at
first. It was like twenty fourto forty eight hours, and I was
like, oh my god, Ican't even this is too much math.
It's like, I can't figure outhow we're going to do this. Yeah,
but they made up the FSC stuffthey put into that is not it's

(41:37):
it's done with the perspective of protectingthe largest companies from lawsuits. It's not
as much of a medical because thestatistically speaking, the difference between a COVID
test that's forty eight hours old andtwenty four hours old is statistically zero.
I mean, it's not significant,or seventy two hours for that matter.
It gives you more opportunity to havemore contact with more people than possibly catch

(41:59):
it in intro. But you can't. You can't spread it that fast if
you get it in between the timethat you test and the time you come
to set. Well yeah you could, right, Like I really am,
like you know, I just don'tknow. Um. The other thing is
that was like super hard for meto wrap my brain around. And you

(42:20):
know, I'm a little cleared upa little bit better now because the short
window is like literally you can gettested, get the swab in your mouth
or your nose or whatever, andtouch a door handle on your way out
of the place and catch it.It's not like an STD where you actually
have to do something like have sex. You know, they don't. They

(42:42):
don't think that's the case anymore.They were afraid of that in the beginning.
But most health organizations, the WorldHealth Organization, the CDC have all
said that you really can't get itoff of a door handle like that.
Well that's great, yeah, butagain I've been going around sament pies and
on the door knobs like every fuckingtime. You can stop sanitizing your doorknobs.
But of course you make the greatpoint that next week the World Health

(43:06):
Organization might come out and say newresearch shows doorknobs or the number one killer
of people. Or literally I comein from being outside and I wash my
hand, I spray my keys withlistow, I take a chlorox wipe and
wipe all the door handles that Ijust touched. It's like, well,
it's not a bad idea to dothose things, especially when you're in a
public bathroom, but in your ownhouse, like I wouldn't again say well,

(43:31):
it always comes down to are youreducing your chance of getting disease?
Yes, most likely, but yourpercent of chances of getting it that way,
we're pretty slim in the beginning anyway, So maybe you can ease up
on that if you want to.But yeah, I know I would love
to get so TTS yesterday. Thecontroversy that flared up is that TTS is

(43:52):
not going to be part of thepast system. Okay, yes, somebody
told me this. Why is this? I needed to find out more info.
I have been investing aiding this andI don't have a great answer yet
other than m TTS was not pleasedwith the cooperation from the FSC in the
beginning. Um, you know TTSwas out ahead of the curve. They
were trying. In my opinion,they were trying to help the industry be

(44:14):
safe, and I thought they were. I thought the FSC should have been
cooperating with them heavily on day one, saying this is wonderful, we need
testing. Yeah, But for whateverreason, they're disagreeing on the way that
the past system would handle information fromUH from that TTS passes over. I
actually am going to try to openup a back channel because they they they

(44:40):
have had so the FSC announced yesterdaythat they think that TTS may be permanently
out of the system. And ifthat's the case, that's a real problem
for the industry because we don't havean alternative right now who provides thirty five
dollars COVID tests to everybody. SoI mean, I guess like the only
other. And not only that,like I love TTS. I've been one

(45:02):
of their day one patients since thebeginning. They're awesome to me, and
like you said, we you know, I live in Florida, Like,
I don't really have any other opportunitiesto get tested, right, So I
guess maybe they could arrange something wherewe could submit our test to pass on

(45:22):
an individual basis. Possibly. Ihad wondered when I heard this yesterday,
because when I had sat in onthe FSC meeting, they had mentioned kind
of in passing that they weren't planningon putting the COVID test through the PAST
system. And I didn't really understandwhy that was. But I guess,

(45:45):
you know, because the PAST systemis like a work or not work situation.
I don't know. I have noidea because they don't have a standard
for it is the problem yet that'sall you'd have to You have to get
an apples to apples to apples win. Okay. So here's the thing,
people, this is what I foundout yesterday. Apparently very few people in
the industry actually understand what PAST does. PAST does nothing but take one or

(46:07):
two pieces of information from TTS andCET that basically says check, yes,
they have taken the entire panel.And here's the expiration date. You know,
the date that they took the test. Right, that's it. That's
all PAST does. And but ifyou were before we were five before PASS
existed, we were doing the right. Okay. Well, this I also

(46:30):
had to go through. I wasone of the people that made up the
path or contributed to the making upof the past system. I was on
the FSC advisory board. We didhave two problems at the time that we
don't have anymore. Number one isthat there's hippo laws prevented producers from legally
asking people to say, give meyour test results. I want to see

(46:51):
your detailed test results. And thennumber two, paper tests were being forged,
right right, you can't have that. So now all the past So
the TTS system handles both of thosethings. Now you do no longer need
to accept a paper test from anybody. You can always go online and look
up a test. And TTS hasa thing now that performers can provide people
with. It just says green sevendays, green fourteen days, green code,

(47:17):
QR code. Yeah. So allPASS does is give you the exact
same information that's already in TTSS.And all it does is give you one
location where you can look up CETresults and TTS results and any other approved
past providers in one place. Butif you're using there's no reason at all,
there's no safety benefit from looking upthe information it PASS versus TTS.

(47:42):
It's the same information. I pointedthat out to people yesterday and said,
hey, listen, if TTS isn'tin past, then I really would like
to see them get back into past. But in the short run, I
have no problem with it. I'mjust using TTS. That's the only place
that's given off the COVID test,and I'm requiring everybody to have a COVID
test. So I got to useTTS and a few people were upset and
said, hey, you have touse pass. Yeah. I haven't heard

(48:06):
a lot of like civilians to TTSduring this time, because TTS is one
of the only places here in Floridathat you could go and get a COVID
task quickly and easily, like theywere giving COVID tests at the stadium here.
But it was like I heard peoplestaying they were waiting in line like
six seven, eight hours. I'mlike, there's three cars in line at

(48:29):
TTS, Like you should go overthere, you know. So I had
a couple of friends during this time. It was like a little bit concerned
that they might have it or whatever. I was like, here's the address,
just calling beforehand, make sure thatthey're open and gone over yep.
Absolutely, And by the way,I think not only our industry, but
every industry should go to find themselvesa TTS and everyone in the who works

(48:50):
should be tested on a regular basisfor COVID until this thing ends. And
that would masks and regular testing foreverybody would basically get us out of this
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(54:09):
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(54:31):
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(55:14):
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(56:00):
I'm always the one I want totake everybody's opinion, like what do you
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(56:21):
like shore but like everybody swam theshore. And then the guy that was
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(56:43):
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(58:19):
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(58:43):
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(59:04):
do want to ask you a coupleof personal questions, because like, there's
so much one can ask you aboutthat I feel like in the interviews people
never get around to it. Butfirst off, where are you from originally?
I'm originally from Cincinnati, Ohio.Okay, you're a Midwest girl,
I am. How many brothers andsisters did you have grown up? None?
I'm an only child okay. Andwhat jobs did you have before you

(59:29):
got into adult entertainment? Wow?What a voting question. I started working
when I was eleven years old,a full time job, and I was,
hold on, why did you startworking at eleven years old? You
know, I did really well inschool, and just to be quite honest,
my parents were a little bit alcoholics, Like it never was like a

(59:50):
huge problem for me, but likeI was at the bar every night with
my parents because I'm an only child, and since I did really good in
school. I would be bored,Like after I got done with my homework,
I would just be like kind ofbored. And they needed a dishwasher
one day and I asked for mymom. I was like, can I
do it? She was I thoughtit was cool. So it's like I
get to be treated like an adult. I have a job. And she

(01:00:14):
was like, as long as yourschool doesn't suffer, I don't see a
problem in it. Like they werepretty much there anyway. You know.
They would be sitting at the bardrinking and I would be in the back
working. So yeah, I startedworking when I was eleven, and I
didn't stop. Like I worked atthat bar, and then I worked at
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(01:00:35):
hot I did hot foods bar ata grocery store, and then I did
catering. I did customer service atanother grocery store. I worked at kmart
shoe department. I worked in thecustomer service department at a department store.
I did telephone marketing. I didtelephone customer service. I was a stripper.
I was a waitress. Yeah,Like I did all kind of stuff.

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I did co check, I soldavon I've been like a hustler like
my whole life. And then whatdrove me to California to get into the
porn industry. So I was stripping, and I was stripping in Ohio.
And while I lived in Ohio,I was stripping in Indiana. And I
was like, Okay, this iscool. I'm making good money because I'm

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stripping next to a casino. Thisis like my mind right, and I'm
like, this is great, Likestripping next to a casino is so much
better than not, right, Sowhy don't we check out Las Vegas?
You know, I was married atthe time, and I was like,
why do we go to Las Vegas? Like people like I was already like
busting and curvy and stuff, andI was like, women like me are

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appreciated in places like that, youknow, And there's a lot of casinos
there and a lot of strip clubs. Let's do that. So we went
to Vegas. And it wasn't thatmuch better, to be honest, like,
financially, because there was more competition, there's more strip clubs, there's
more strips. You know. Thecost of living was a little bit more
expensive, not that much though,and it just wasn't the like real step

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up that I expected to be,but it was a lot more drama.
The girls were always fighting, thecustomers were always getting like it was just
like so much drama. There waslike drugs and stabbings and like it was
just so much and I was thisis not what I wanted to do,
you know what the fuck? Soum, I was like, Okay,

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I really like using my sexuality.That was kind of new for me,
and I kind of like broke itdown, like what is it about this
job that I like and what wouldI like to change? And I was
also married at the time, andI thought, well, you know,
it'd be kind of great to beable to like explore my sexuality a little
bit more, even though I've alreadymarried and I don't really have a problem

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with that, and my husband andI had like a really good, like
trust situation, so I felt likethat was cool. And I like being
viewed as a sex object. Iwas like, oh, this is cool.
Like I was always like a bignerd a little bit of a tomboy,
so I was like, this ispretty neat. So I like actively
sought out porn opportunities and I'd donesome nude modeling, right before I left

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Ohio, and then I got twoscenes when I lived in Las Vegas,
and they didn't really go anywhere becausethey just didn't like it wasn't my fault
or just nothing really happened from that. So I started this is like when
the Internet was in its like infancy, you know, and I had my

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husband take some polaroid may get picturesof me, and I took them to
the library and I scanned them intoa floppy disk, and then I took
out a floppy disc home so myhome computer, and I just went online
looking for adult and porn stuff,which there was very little, but often
you would find like a web page, not necessarily a site, but like

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a page with information on it aboutlike you know, like Hussler dot com,
like have like information about their magazinesthat are they're about to release or
something. And so I would justlook for email addresses. And I always
knew like you could just email webmasterat so it'd be like webmaster at Hotser
dot com, webmaster at Paneas dotcom, webmaster at Playboy dot com,

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And like I would look for anybody'semail address, anybody. I don't care
who you are, if you're moppingthe floor at a porn's company. I'm
emailing you, you know. AndI finally got the attention of a photographer
that was based in New York thatproduced the Exotic Dance or Award show and

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he was like, you really wantto do porn? And I was like
yeah. He's like, well,I'm in Vegas right now. The Exotic
Dancer Award shows happening. I producedthe awards show. My name, his
name is Mike Camera. He's like, you can come down to the Mandalay
Bay and stay, you know,stay with me for the weekend. Just
hang out and I will introduce youto everybody I know. He's like,
there's a lot of crossover between theExotic Dancer you know community and the porn

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community, and you'll definitely meet someplayers. I was like, all right,
cool, let's do it. SoI did that, met tons of
people, and then by this time, I've already done two movies, already
done some like you know pictures andstuff. But like now I'm like committed,
Like I'm like, oh no,this is what I'm doing. This
is how I'm getting out of thestripping, and this is what I'm doing.

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This is great, and so thiswas nine to eleven, the first
one, the original nine to eleven. Yeah. The Exotic Dancer Show is
in August. Yeah, and we'vemade arrangements for me to come in October
to New York for the East CoastVideo Show. I don't know if you
remember the East Coast Video Show,but it was like a little tin of

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convention in Atlantic City, if Iremember, right. Yeah, So I
go to stay in New York,we drive to Atlantic City, we do
the show, come back to NewYork for a couple of weeks, and
I with a bunch of different likelittle companies there, and the rest is
like history. It's just snowball.I went from New York to LA I
sat in Jim's South's office for likea couple of weeks, and then yeah,

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I like my job. Just literallymy career just snowball. Like I
did really good and I showed upon time and I was enthusiastic and I
couldn't wait to be there and Iwas so hyped up, and you know,
it's just it was really good andit's what I wanted to do.
I'm sure my conversation with Jim wentsomething like, now, Glan, I'm
I'll give you Sarah's phone number here, and you gotta pay me one hundred

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dollars for this booking and then forthe rest of your life, anytime you
speak to Sarah, you owe me. Right. That was his method back
then that you know he had forour listeners. He had like hundreds or
not hundreds, but these books fullof polaroids that were horrible looking of girls,
and you would go down to hisoffice and then just page through all

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the polar roy it's looking for yournext star of your next scene. But
the smart girls like Sarah or ChanceFortune I remember was always there. There
were girls that would just be sittingin the office at all times. So
then that you would go, yeah, I'd like to look through the books,
and then a girl would Jim wouldsay, well, let me introduce
you, or not Jim because hewas always in his office, but the

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other guy, Steve Austin, Yeah, I guess that's how we met you.
And then I really feel like Iprobably sat in that office off and
on for maybe like two or threemonths, and then I was like he
kind of really didn't need to sendin that office anymore. You know,
like everybody pretty much knew you,and um, like I would get shoots

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from I would shoots from that.I would get a lot of shoots from
the other male performers, because maleperformers would like to work with me,
And I'm like, Yo, that'show whoever you're working with about me?
You know. Yeah, well that'swhen I guess that's when we met.
Shoos booking you through Jim South.Okay, last question for you here sports.
So you have been sort of Iwouldn't want you to out any celebrities

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here that you haven't already outed,but you've been spotted in on some sidelines
I think, and some NBA gamesand some prominent spots. What's your sport?
Is it NBA? Your favorite?Um? You know, I I'm
like so ishy washing when it comesto sports, Like I just am lackluster

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about it. Like I I likeathletes though, Like so there's that I
have a tendency. I think maybelike football players. Like I like football
players. They're like big and beefyand sexy. But yeah, like when
it comes to like washing sports,I just like events, Like I definitely
like to go to games, LikeI live kind of like over by the
Marlin Stadium and it's like I wouldtotally go to a baseball game because I

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like fucking stadium food and you know, I like looking at people. Wasn't
there a thing where you promised blowjobsto an entire NBA team if they won
the championship. So I did teamBJ in two thousand and twelve and two
thousand and fourteen twelve. It wasfor the NBA and basically, you know,

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you had to following a little setof rules. But if you did
that and the Heat won the championship, then I would offer blowjobs to all
my Twitter followers. We did that, The Heat did that. We did
that. We you know, hada little thing down here. People came,
we filmed it, We cam didit. Then again I did it

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again in twenty fourteen, two yearslater, and that was for the World
Cup and we supported Germany during theWorld Cup. And again it was the
same kind of thing. You hadto like jump through all these tups to
go to do it, but wehad it even a bigger turnout, and
so it was cammed and it wasfilmed, and you know, you can

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purchase the DVD still to this dayon my site. That's the cool thing
about Sarah is that when she tweetsI'm gonna give out free blowjobs. She
means I'm giving out free blowjobs.Most girls do not I I gave out
sixty free blowjobs the first round,in fourteen the second round, and every

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one of them was a great blowjob, no doubt. So there you go,
guys. Well, thank you somuch for your time today, Sarah.
Everyone I'm sure has enjoyed hearing yourthoughts on so many different great topics.
We've learned today that you're very passionateabout racism, of we've learned that
you were exploited labor at age elevenyears old. We've learned about your career,

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so this has been great. Iwant to remind everybody, of course,
that you should go check her outon sex Panther, and that you
should go to let's fix dot coml etsphix dot com to check out there
incredible pleasure products, including the puckishthat we described on the show here.
And lastly, if you are oneof the legions of Sarah fans, what

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do you call your legions of fansdays jay birds? If you're one of
the jaybirds and who's not a regularlistener of this show and you tuned in
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and wideside dot com. You cancheck me out on Twitter, Sarah J.
Tipple ups and Instagram? Is thatunderscore? Real underscore Sarah underscore J.
Yeah, and if you don't seea verified thing, then it's not
her. I'm just it's it alwaysmakes me angry, but I just put
you in this morning, Sarah J. You're the fifth Sarah J that comes

(01:11:53):
up on Twitter. Yeah. Whywould they let four clear impersonators be ahead
of you? But I have to, like, I like literally report people
every day. That's insane. Um, they once you're verified, they should
prevent anyone else from being Sarah J. It's as simple as Zawater is pretty

(01:12:14):
quick to take things down, tobe honest with you, and as opposed
to like Instagram Instagram, it's like, come on, I don't know why
Instagram is so slow about taking thingsdown, and like a lot of times,
you know fans will be like whyare you get so mad about it?
I get so mad about it becausethey're scamming you guys, like not
just visually scamming you guys, butsome of them take it to like a

(01:12:38):
whole other level and actually like reachout and contact my fans and try to
engage in either like just conversation ortry to like scam money out of people.
Like I cannot tell you how manyLike I get messages daily happen to
me numerous times. A fake notnecessarily Sarah J, but a fake performer
will set up an account and they'llbe pretty good about it, so others

(01:12:59):
will all of it. So thenI'll go, oh, okay, I
see so so as a new acount so I'll click on it, and
then I get a d M saying, hey, Glenn, how are you
doing. I'm in a jam.I need some money wired to me or
whatever, and I'll be like whatever. If it was the real you,
you would have texted me. Youknow, that's ridiculous, But that's the
kind of bullshit that happens, andwe don't want that to keep happening.
But anyway, amazing day with youhere, Thank you so much everybody.

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Once again, the Great Sarah janyou