Episode #216 - EM Burlingame and How to Kill the Financial Kill Chain of Europe - Gold Goats 'n Guns Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to the Gold, Goats and Guns Podcast
for April twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. My name is
Tom Luongo and we have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's episode two sixteen and I have with me today.
I think this is a perfect guest to have after
the last three podcasts we did, where we've done a
deep dive into the state of affairs and the plumbing
of the financial markets, and where we where My friends
like Kaitlin Wong and Brent Johnson and Vin's Launchi think

(00:46):
we're headed in what Trump's strategy is and everything else
I want to I want to pull the focus back
about thirty or forty thousand feet and talk about the
history of all the things that I complain about all
the time, Europe City, on London, and how they're trying
to destroy the United States. I could think of no
better person than start that conversation and to bring on

(01:08):
Ian burling Game, who I met recently on an episode
of Tommy's podcast with Tommy Carigan. We had a great chat.
Finally get any chance to meet, and I decided it
was time to bring im on the show and let's
talk about why we need to restore English civilization. So em,
thank you so much for taking the invite, and let's
do the thing, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, well, thanks for having me on. Somebody's got to
convince you that the English or not the evilt people
on earth, and that outside that little hell hole called
the city of London, we're all pretty damn good. We've
done some good things for the world.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I've always been a champion, I will have to clarify.
I always been a champion of Little Britain. As a
matter of fact, I'm really looking forward to season four.
Parkson's Forum will be coming out in about three or
four weeks, and that's actually done more to I think,
like re establish just how desperate the situation is for
the common Englishman. I think that anything else. I think

(02:08):
in many ways, I've been a fan of Jeremy. I've
said this before. I've been a fan of Jeremy Clarkson
for years. He's a brilliant comedian and presenter. But I've
never been proud of him. Necessarily, Clarkson's farm made me
proud of him, especially being an ex coat farmer and
having worked, you know, worked ten six seven hours a
day as a hobby farmer and trying to make a
go of it. I felt every bit of his struggle

(02:31):
and then to watch him fight the local council and
knowing they're all just Londoners, you know, you know, playing
at Yeah, it's just awful. And so it was very
very powerful for me. And so no, I'm I'm absolutely
open to that conversation. So let's let's talk about what
you think, where you think we are, and what you

(02:53):
think the I don't know you were. Your latest article
about the financial kill chain, I think is a very
very very powerful argument. And as far as like the method,
we talk about color revolutions all the time, we talk
about all these things. So this is a part of
that process, and it's the financial side and what the

(03:14):
real goal of the politics is, at least from your perspective,
And I'd like you to present it and then we'll
go from there and we'll see what we what we
can come up from that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, if you do the acronym, it's FC or FKC,
which if you sound it out as fucked. So that
I didn't realize that till this morning. Actually I was
looking at it. It's like I just accidentally, Yeah, anyways, trying
to you know, figure out. Okay, so the City of

(03:46):
London is this big, bad, evil system and structure that
has made the British aisles and the British people wealthy.
It's like, wait, wait a second. If you've been to Britain,
have you seen the hell hole? It is what happened
to all of its royal and noble families and all
their wealth and their stately homes and their estates, and

(04:08):
you know where did all that go? And and then
after that, once we made it ugly with you know,
manufacturing and industry, where it all you know. So it's like, okay, well,
if that wealth was staying in England, and okay, maybe
it wasn't being distributed to you know, evenly to people

(04:33):
you would have luted. You know, some people that were
wealthier than any kings have been given the amount of
wealth that's channeled through there over the last three hundred
some odd years, right, so it has to you know,
it really makes you go, okay, well, what's really going
on there? And maybe there's something else going on there
and maybe maybe it turns out that the city of

(04:56):
London is a is the equivalent to the Vatican but
for the Dutch East Indies company which came over in
the late sixteen hundreds at the invitation of six English
noblemen and took over the crown and then said, you know,
as you know, puppet King William and Mary King and

(05:17):
Queen and set up the City of London established. You know,
then the Bank of England was established. That was a
hostile takeover. You know, you and I are old enough
to remember the leverage buyout days, right the LBO days
of the eighties into the early nineties, and how all
of that happened. And you know Michael Milliken's junk bonds

(05:38):
and Gordon get Goes, greed is good and you know
the kkrs and you know in fact the good number.
You know some of the names top financial names that
people know today. That's where they made their money, that's
where they made their billions. Well, one has to wonder
if these LBOs don't happen at nation states levels, at

(05:59):
different times, in different ways.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's a fair point to make. Actually, you know, I'm
a big fan of saying that. You know, a lot
of human behavior is frackle. How you you know, you
look at the family system can be applied in many
ways to the relationships between countries, and then states and
communities and whatnot. So yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
So sixteen eighty eight there's a hostile takeover, corporate takeover
of the Deep Front by the Dutch East Indies Company,
of the British East Indies Company, and of all of
Britain what would later become the British Empire. It's already embedded.
You know, the British Empire didn't come about till the
seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds, et cetera. So why would that,

(06:48):
Why did they do that? Why did Dutch do that?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
What was going on on the continent. Well, you know,
they just had what the Thirty Year War the Dutch
had against the Spanish Empire, which was getting all this
little liquidity from you know, the colonies, right the New World,
which was totally disrupting the entire financial system. Quite it
was like the QE of its time, right, which just

(07:13):
completely disrupted you know, the value devalued gold so dramatically
that it crushed entire economies. And so the Dutch and
the Spanish went to war because it was crushing the
Dutch banking system, which is really the Venetian banking system.
Because guess what the Venetian bankers left Venice because the

(07:34):
Ottoman threat. And where'd they go. They went to somewhere
similar to Venice, which is Holland, right, And they were
the bankers behind that. So it's like, okay, they just
had the thirty year War, there was one hundred year war,
there was the eighty year War. How the hell were
they going to repay all of that? And how the

(07:55):
hell were you going to survive physically because all these
wars are going on on the continent. Well, there's this
island over there, it's pretty secure. It's Kings doesn't have
the support of the people. We've already bought half the parliament.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
We we've got disloyal nobles who thought that their family
instead of the Tutors, should have, you know, dominated in the.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Aftermath of the war, the Roses, and they're willing to
back us, and we'll just kick them some financial you know,
some some backing for some of their you know, misadventures
with the British in East India's company, which wasn't doing
so well at the time. And we'll just go over
and we'll do a hostile takeover, hostile corporate takeover. We'll

(08:45):
set up we'll have the king, who's now you know,
ostensibly the chairman and CEO. You know, well the CEO,
not the chairman of the board, because that stayed the
Dutch took over the country and then they you know,
did a little carve out of the city in London
so that the Dutch East Indies Company and really the

(09:06):
bankers behind it, you know, could have a secure location
from which to conduct their global operations. Well, they also
need to repay the war, all of these wars, decades
of wars. Okay, well, the British have our secure here
on these islands. They have the beginnings of an empire

(09:27):
started under Queen Elizabeth. That's why the British East Indies
Company was set up. They can't run it very well.
We Dutch are way better at it. And we Dutch
have the Venetian bankers behind us and all of those
networks and all of that, you know, all the things
that were put in place during the Renaissance, and they're like, okay, well,

(09:50):
let's build up, you know, let's embed the financial kill chain,
and let's let's build up the British empire and let's
pillage it for the next two centuries or for as
long as we can, you know, so maybe the people,
well they didn't get this a chance. Right over the

(10:11):
next two centuries, two and a half centuries, all the
way up into World War One, they made sure that
all the hereditary princes were bankrupted, discredited and killed off
in wars. And not just in Britain, you know, the British,
but also the French, and they have Spurgs and well
less than Halsburgs, but you know, over and I did

(10:33):
a bunch of research on this today because it got
me down a thread here, but they had to get
rid of hereditary princes and there's a numerous ways to
do that so that they could take their collateral and
their collateral, you know, they could take their assets, financialize
those assets, saddle them with old debts from old wars

(10:53):
and conflicts and misadvent you know, corporate misadventures, right, and
then used as collateral at the level of states. Well,
what do you got to have there, Well, you've got
to have nation states. Well what was the piece of
West failure? Right, piece of West failure set all the

(11:15):
you know, for all intents and purposes, it established the
financial kill chain, which is this thebility to do leverage
buyouts at the state level, hostile takeovers, hostile bids, all
the numerous in nefarious and not ways of financing. Saddling

(11:36):
these things up with debt, and you've got to do
all kinds of structural things. You're what is saddling a state,
a nation state up with debt. It's slavery. You're enslaving
the citizens of that state to pay other debts for
other things and other countries and things that have nothing
to do with them. Okay, that goes for the British

(11:58):
Empire up through about roughly the Great Depression right World
War One. Finally you can't settle Britain with any more debt,
and there's no more resources to steal from around the
world at a price that's cost effective. You can't create
enough synthetic instruments or derivatives that people will buy because

(12:18):
there isn't you know, the Russians, you know, have been
taken off the board, the Ottomans have been taken off
the board, the Hasburg has been taken off the board.
So who's going to buy this volume and level of debt. Well,
you know, there's this other great empire starting to emerge.
It's over across the Atlantic over there. Oh, and by

(12:42):
the way, who established New York in Manhattan? Wasn't that
the Dutch?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Right. Wasn't it the VOC and the banks behind the
VOC that did that?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I mean I haven't grown up in New York. There's
a and why it's not called Brookland. It's called Brooklyn.
Like you know, there's Way Amsterdam, New Amsterdam, all of it.
So I want to back up for a second, because
you've used them, we've we've used the term now a
few times, and I want to make sure that everybody
understands it. In the latest article that you you've published

(13:18):
on this, to to codify the way you're you're framing this,
I want you to go through the steps of the
financial kill chain because I think when you do that
it will ping off, because it did for me. It
pinged off a whole lot of you know, parallel to
what we're seeing today, what we've seen in the past
and everything else. It makes a lot of sense when

(13:39):
you when you go through the mechanics of it, so
it takes take ten minutes do what needs to be
done there. Because I think it's also really important what
I did with Brent Johnson, the other day, explain the milkshake.
I know you've done it a thousand times, but do
it anyway like this. It's really important that people have
a touchdown that they can work off of the foundation
to go from there and we can discuss the merits
of the of the of the argument. At least want

(14:00):
to put it on the table.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, okay, wonderful. So and forgetting enough to read it,
because my memory is not as good as you used
to be. Right okay. So seven step process right kill
chain is a systemic assault on a nation's economic sovereignty.
So step one is infiltration and influence. So back to Britain.
They infiltrated culture, community, society, primarily the industrialists, by backing

(14:27):
them with continental monies. To help build the industrialists, they
bought parliamentarians. Everybody looks at Cromwell and tries to beat
Cromwell up. Cromwell disbanded parliament with one of the most
brilliant statements ever by God be Gone or something similar
to that. But you know, you you infiltrate, you gain influence.

(14:52):
They gained influence with these seven British noblemen who had
lost wealth in the British East Indies. Company and who
needed the backing of Dutch moneies. So you know, first
steps infiltration and influence. Financialists embed themselves in a country's leadership,
posing as advisors or allies or sources of capital, right,

(15:18):
sources of deal flow because sometimes you don't need the capital,
but you need access to quality deals that you know
the counterparty risk is lower. The second step is dead
and trap it. They push unsustainable loans, locking nations and
repayment cycles. Well, there's two ways to do that. Wars

(15:39):
which generally the wars that you have that nation fight
that it takes debts on for aren't any wars that
have anything to do with that country, but helps you
collect on debts from another war or another debtor, another
debtor state through the force of arms. Right, because debts
are only as good as your ability to enforce them,

(16:01):
right period.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
So yeah, no, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Right, and now debt go ahead.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
It's still matters if you have the bank of thousand dollars,
it's your problem. But if you if you are the
bank billion dollars, it's the banks problem. Right, So it's
the same in the in this case, you know, just
substitute banks and view this substitute a country for the
for you, and then we have an economy.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
A corporation, and a nation.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, So that's step two. Step three is asset identification,
because now you saddle them with debts, you're gonna you're
gonna do some other thing right after this, but you
need to get a very clear identification of what assets
are there, and you need some time to do that
because then you also have to figure out how you
can collateral how you can use that as your collateral

(16:50):
for you know, to prop up the debts you already
have somewhere else, right, not for new debts, but all
of this is how do you you know in this case,
how were they recollateralizing the thirty year, one hundred year
and the eighty year wars and the debts that have
been incurred there? Right, Okay, so acid identification Step three.

(17:14):
Valuable resources, land, industry, tax spaces, that's populations, functional labor populations,
et cetera. And infrastructure are targeted and they're identified and
they're figured out what are they worth? Who owns it,
who's got it. It's the same thing we do in
a buyout corporate bio.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's what my teeth okay, hounds, right, No, no, go ahead,
go ahead. Well I was going to say, this is
exactly what they did in Greece in twenty fifteen. Absolutely,
Greece was the is the perfect example of the modern
correct thing. I remember watching this happen, and you know,
I coined the term, you know, German austerity as opposed
to austerity, like the austerity for a country that's in trouble.

(17:55):
And the Greece offered austerity, which is like, hey, we
will you know, we'll figure well, we will, we will,
you know, we will liberalize our economy in order to
grow so that we can pay this off. But we
need structuring. And the Germans said, no, absolutely, you need
to cut. You need to cut spending and raise taxes
as opposed to cutting spending and lowering taxes, note the difference.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
So and you need to let predatory companies come in
and buy up your assets, those few revenue generating positive
assets that you have at pennies on the dollar.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, I mean, and and to be honest with you,
the EU got got access to the Greek ports and
the parts and on it sorts of they they strip
mine the country exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's exactly the point. Yeah, yeah, this gets back to
where's all that wealth that the British supposedly built, you know,
took from the empire? Right, It ain't in Britain, right, right,
So then what they do after that? You know, and
again I cut my teeth doing corporate restructuring in the
nineties after the LBO days, when we had to figure out, okay,

(18:56):
what are we going to do with all these assets?
So you still and for all intents and purposes, it's
exactly what happened in the LBO days. You stole them
and you use people's retirement funds because everybody, you know,
the four to one k's and everything now are allowed
in the stock markets. Same thing we're doing now right
through black Rock at heel, Right. But then you've got

(19:19):
to figure out it's not enough to identify the assets.
You got to figure out valuations, got to figure out
who might want that. You got to figure out how
you can collateralize it, how you can pay for it,
all that kind of stuff, who's got it, how you
get rid of them. Once you've done all of that,
which can take some time, could take thirty forty years
in the case of a state, you know, particularly a
nation state like the United Kingdom, right, or a state

(19:43):
of states and an empire. The fourth step is economic destabilization,
and that's where markets are manipulated to deep in crisis.
There's all kinds of ways to do that, primarily war,
civil unrest, economic crisis, liquidity crisis. You know, all this
stuff we're watching right now is you know that you

(20:05):
talk about vastly better than I ever could, But you
know it's all the manipulative games to create artificial crisises
you hope don't actually emerge into real crisis, right if
you're not too if you're not careful, but you have
to do the economic destabilization so that you can move
to number step number five, which is debt for assets swaps.

(20:28):
It's where you actually acquire the assets assets of season
exchange for debt relief. And generally what is that debt
relief more debt. They don't excuse the debt, they just
roll it over. Right now, you're quote unquote collateralizing that
debt with these assets, so they're not just straight up
seizing them, although that does happen in some cases. But

(20:52):
you know, debt for assets swaps, well, you're just you're not. Again,
Greece didn't have its debts excused, right, just their debt
expanded and rolled over, which is what they're trying to
do now because without you know, having a jubilee, which
a number of people are talking about, doesn't it breaks

(21:13):
the financial kill switch. And Michael Hudson, while I'm not
a complete fan of all of his solutions because he's
a bit of a Marxist, his you know, so his
his proscription, though, is solid. His assessments about these things

(21:34):
are solid. And that's one of the things he articulates
is that that was what the jubilee was about. A
new king would come in and he would break the kills,
you know, these financial kill switches, these kill chains that
were in place, right, just excusing the debt, not by
rolling it over to new debt. Right. So then step
number six is extraction and exploitation. Wealth is dream through

(21:55):
profit extraction. Right, So again, what do you do with
the debts? You know, like in the corporate restructuring days,
eighty percent of proposed value for why these assets were
acquired and you know created it, you know, slammed together
this conglomerates over eighty percent of that proposed asset value

(22:16):
never happened. It was never realized, and it never was
intended to. It was just intended to take as many
assets as you could. You'll sell off pieces later on
that you don't care about or don't want to, but
at least it gets you the assets you want, and
it saddles up massive amounts of debt right while temporarily

(22:37):
driving up valuations in the derivatives you know, the securities
and derivatives markets where people can make some you know,
if they got the timing right, which these folks do
because they're the one doing the timing right, then they
can make you know, they can pay all of you
know to the black Rock conversation that you've touched on

(22:59):
numerous time, But there's a reason Blackrock has control or influence,
really control over tens of trillions of dollars while only
being in a fifty eighty billion dollar company itself, right right.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, to to make to clarify that point as a
matter of fact, before we started, before we started to
hit record, and brought up the interesting point is is
Blackrock the new Dutch East Indy's company? And then that's
an interesting point. We're going to talk about that. And
before we did so, I made sure I have BlackRock's
financial standing here in front of me. And this is

(23:36):
the point I've made in the past, you know. And
everybody's out there screaming about black Rocks evil, and I'm like,
yes they are. I'm not going to argue that point,
but they don't own anything. We own it all. They
are the managers and vote our proxy on the port
boards for this when at the end of the day,
I'm looking at their twenty twenty four you know, you know,

(23:58):
financial statement, and here's the total equity, and the total
equity in the company is fifty billion dollars. Now correct
me if I'm wrong. But Apple could buy them, could
buy out that shareholder equity for all intents and purposes
for with their count yeah, one account that they have themselves.

(24:20):
So it's just to give you an idea of how,
in effect, how much disproportionate power Blacklock has because of
the assets that they manage, not the assets they actually own.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Correct. Correct. It was the same with the LBO dates, right,
the kkrs and all of them didn't have very big books,
but they were doing deals that were way over way
beyond what their own assets and their own book value was.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Sure, right, Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So this extraction and exploitation is the key point for
them because they know that there's a bunch of assets
that they don't want. What they want is your revenue
generating assets. They want your stable, your power companies, your ports,
as you mentioned earlier, your railroads, your you know, they

(25:13):
want your even in economic downturns. They want things that
generate revenues. Right, and that specifically in the modern world,
particularly starting the nineteen seventies with a Fiat system, has
to do with municipals, right, bond offerings, because what is that.

(25:39):
That's how they access tax spaces. Yes, right, they'll buy
up the municipals, they'll buy up the bonds city, you know, city,
county and state bonds because that's a guarantee. That's a
revenue stream for them, right, And what is it, Well,
that's enslavement to the local people to get yeah, right,

(26:01):
So those are the assets they want, and then they'll
they'll get rid of the others. They'll try and make
as much money as they can on the others. But
those are those assets banks, you know, other key ass Okay.
But the final step is one that they were always
intending from the beginning, and that's step seven is abandonment
and collapse. Right, they're gonna leave. They gotta move on,
because it's like a parasitic infection. The host is dying

(26:24):
and the host has crossed the threshold where it's basically
walking dead. Well, what do the parasites do? They look
for another host, right and the right. So that's the
nation is left broken, it's rich is gone. Well where
the hell is Briton? Now? Okay, and they're they're not
here with the US yet, but boy, they're sure on
that pathway, give me one second. The other reason they

(26:49):
need to collapse is it hides what they've done.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yes, they need a collapse.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
In fact, it has to collapse, and it has to
collapse lamentously, generally in a in a war, which is
why these cycles come. You know, there's always a war
at the end of these cycles, whether it's a civil
war or they need to flood your communities with cartels
and drugs and Marxists you know, the crazy, the full

(27:22):
on insane Marxist uh.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And or.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Immigrants you know that are never going to assimilate, or
all of the above, or all of the above generally right,
generally right up before the collapse, before the abandonment, collapse.
They tie the country up in a generational war that
can't be won. What was the g watt?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, yep, the Global War on Terror. Yes, absolutely makes sense.
So ye, yeah, no, you're absolutely I see the framework
of it, and it's it's it's quite it's quite clear.
I used for a while, I was using the metaphor
that these people are like locusts. They come in and
they just wipe everything clean, and then when they're done
scooping up all and destroying everything in their wake, they

(28:10):
move on to the next one. So when you think
about this process, and this is why they've been telling
us for years by the way, that you know, the
United States is done and China is going to be next,
and they had already started the process of using our
wealth to build up China, and then they were planning

(28:31):
on taking over China, and all of the rhetoric around
China being a currency manipulator and this and that and
everything else is all in service of that. So why
I have never and I and well, I'm no fan
of the Chinese in many ways because I think, you know,
I I'm not. I understood that they couldn't they they

(28:56):
from their perspective, they had to figure out a way
to combat this, and it already been the thing for them.
They've been very successful at it, and they've been very
successful at it.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Absolutely. The piece i'd give you about the Chinese having
worked there in investment banking years ago as an analyst
in the early two thousands, the Chinese had had the
financialist kill switch activated on them in the eighteen hundreds
into the early nineteen hundreds, and they had survived, and

(29:30):
then they survived what we did to them afterwards, which
would send Communism in there Marxism to try and wipe
them out, and they survived that, which is kind of
not surprising given their forty five hundred year old society. Civilization.
They're actually civilizational people. They've been invaded numerous times. Every
invader's become more Chinese than the previous dynasty, and they've

(29:51):
had like thirteen revolutions, and each new dynasty out of
that becomes more Chinese than the previous. So they kind
of did you know what we were doing kind of
intimately And oh, by the way, they keep pretty damn
good records of things, pretty damn good records, right.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, this just like this is put some color on
that in what way do they? I mean, I I
mean I get it. I know they have a very
strong memory of the Opium Wars and whatnot, and and
but I you know, just throw a little bit of color.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
So okay, all right. So the Confucian Mandarin system, right,
is an academic it is a system of merit. It's
a truly meritocratic system in a way. It's the Jesuits
patterned themselves on the Mandarin system where it takes a

(30:49):
long time to earn your way into and you've got
to demonstrate proficiency. And you know, they're like the green
berets of the Catholic Church, right, just without our floppy hats,
because of the Mandarin system. Right, because initially the first

(31:11):
twenty years or so, before you can take the first
series of tests, you have to demonstrate a knowledge and
mastery of history and not mythology like we do in
our schools in our education, but actual history and nuances
of history and who did, what, where or when and

(31:31):
what was the result of that, so that when, if,
and when you become a Mandarin you don't make those
same mistakes. Well, because of that, which is a core
concept philosophy in Chinese civilization and society. They keep nats
ass detail records on everything.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Interesting and libraries.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
And if you look at the Cultural Revolution, the damage
it did, most of most of that damage was not
to these records. In fact, most of those sustained. What
was destroyed was the myths, the cultural legacy, the culture,
you know, the ship that Marxist do or they changed
the name of everything they did down the statues and
all of that. But because Marxists Communists are bureaucrats, they

(32:16):
kept all the bureaucratic detail. It's like the Soviets when
the Soviet Empire ended, Oh my god, the treasure trove
of data. Same with the Nazis. Right, they're they're freaking fascists,
they're socialists, they're bureaucrats, murderous bureaucrats.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
The technocrats. Is really the the better, the better. I
think they're technocrats.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're they're they're genocidal, resentfuls.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I mean, right, But you.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Know, the point being is that these types of bureaucratic systems, societies,
they maintained really really good records, even of ship that
they really shouldn't have kept. The fucking you know, right,
you're an Italian. Right, I'm half Scottish, you know, I'm like,
we wouldn't have kept those records just I'm just probably
would have done that ship, but I wouldn't have kept

(33:12):
any records of that.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh No, that that all takes these those those conversations
take place. You know, you know in a room that
you know is clean, and you know in a restaurant
that you know it is clean and you and that
you control the information flow in and out of Yes, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, because there ain't no what is that, there
ain't no immunity for a snitch. Well, these bureaucratic societies
to snitch on each other all the time because it's
their nature. But the point being is that Chinese, again,
the cultural Revolution didn't wipe out all of these managerial
records that wiped up most of the cultural historical the
cultural history kind of records. Because of that, and because

(33:52):
the Mandarin system actually was still extant with the the communists,
it was just you know, the guard that were allowed
to go through the program. They've had immense access to
a immense amount of information about what we did to them.
They weren't gonna let it happen again. And it was

(34:14):
until until the oligarchs elevated g and said do what
Putin's doing. Hm hmm, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Right, because I was I was about to say, as
you as you were talking, it was like, and that's
exactly what happened with Putin. I would have believe. And
you know, when he took power in Russia, after Yelson
finally realized just how badly he had been manipulated by he.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Didn't take power.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
He was he was, Yeah, he was elevated. No, I agreed.
And his story about how he came to power is
very interesting. And I always find it fascinating that it's
that they always want to bring that there's always this
like whenever you start talking about that, that that period
when Putin took power, that always these these fantasy stories

(35:02):
about the apartment block that was blown up and this
and how he you know, how he manipulated events to
become dictator, and like that's just that just sounds like
that just sounds like a bad James Bond script. I
just don't believe like he was he was chosen by
Yeltsin to and the people behind him to say no,
we have to stop this, otherwise Russia is going to

(35:24):
be no longer right, and that's just the way it
is correct.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Otherwise, the kill chain, the final steps of the kill
chain will be you know, they will embed the kill
chain here, the financialist kill chain here, And in thirty
forty years we're going to go through another collapse. And
this time though unlike what they are. As much as
I despise communists, and I don't think we should give

(35:49):
him free helicopter rise because that fuel is expensive. There's
other ways to deal with them, equal brutally that don't
cost as much, maybe even more entertaining. Maybe comes to mind, right.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know, it's funny like the other day is Manual
Macron saying, you know, like playing it was funny Manual
Macron the other day was saying, you know, in the
midst of all the financial turmoil, he came out and said, well,
it looks like, you know, there's still there's a there's
a you know, the the dollar is no longer going
to be the the the currency of the world. The
Euro is going to take over. And we I'm like,

(36:26):
the only thing the euro is the only thing that's
the EU or you're empowering with the euro is is
the production of guillotines, and I, you know, I don't
there's no way that the Euro and it's certainly not
even even under their their future version of reality with
the Euro, is that ever going to dethrone the dollar?

(36:48):
And I think that's their problem. And but but go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, no, no, Well, you know when heg says said,
you all go ahead and fight Russia, you know, put
troops and you any of you want to, but it
won't do Article five, right, the Euro ceased to exist
because the only thing that back the Euro is the
full faith and force of the US military, and the

(37:13):
US military just said, uh, fuck you. Yes, and your
monopoly money, which was a scan to begin with, to
screw countries out of the you know, to saddle countries,
you know, hide debts in the form of a transition
to a new currency while also doing a one time,
sudden massive inflation. It was also hidden, yes, right, and

(37:38):
which just shifted power to Brussels over not all aspects
of but for all intents and purposes, you know. So
what are the two enumerated powers under the Westphalian and
the quote unquote Glorious Revolution, which was just a fucking
corporate talk about a psyop glorious revolution. It was a
fucking invasion and a eye out by bankers. Fuck you.

(38:03):
But all right, I'm still a little bitter about it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Okay, this is this is this is this is my podcast.
Ye are are if you if you're clean, and I'm
the only and I'm the only ones that dropping them,
we're doing something wrong here.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So yeah, so I think got my little tirade there.
I lost my train of thought. But you know, the
two enumerated powers. So under the west Phalian system, which
is actually coming undone, the Westphalian system is dying in
the trenches of Ukraine, right And the west Phalian system

(38:41):
is the financialist killed chain, institutionalized, instantiated. Now are they
going to adapt it and modify and all of that. Yes,
But there's two enumerated powers under the west Fahlien. It's
the control of your own of a state's exchequer, right,
so the state has control of their own currency, right,

(39:01):
that's the exchequer. And the second one is the legal
right of violence within your own borders and between other states,
but in accordance with with laws. Right now, what the
hell those laws are and who adjudicates that? And you know,
that's all up for interpretation. But those are the only

(39:21):
two powers enumerated to a state. Well, when they created
the euro they, for all intents and purposes gout it
one of those enumerated powers. M So what were they
left with, Well, the legal right of violence in their
own countries and between countries. Only they don't have that
ability either, because guess what you have to what guess

(39:42):
what you have to have control of in order to
be able to afford your military.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Your money, your money.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, of course, so this whole you know, fourth right,
push to the CBDC and you know, all the all
the stuff that they're doing now Brussels is basically trying to,
you know, for all intents and purposes, which is the
Dutch East Indies company you know, or the banks behind it,

(40:11):
you know. And again the more I look at Blackrock
and how it functions and operates around the world, you
know it uses that immense portfolio of funds under management
two assess right, So what step was that?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Step?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Number three? Asset identification? What does black Rock do? And
then through Blackrock, State Street and Vanguarden, right, and a
whole bunch of UG funds and private equity funds and
you know Vulture funds, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
So it's it's okay, I'm ahead. What I gonna say is,
so it's really interesting, Like I'm I've been since you,
since you when I first talked in Tommy's podcast, and
then since then, and we've talked a little bit here
and there. And I was thinking about this in the
in the coming, you know, in preparation for doing this

(41:02):
podcast today. And you'll be I know, listeners will be
surprised to hear I actually did prep for this podcast
as opposed to what I normally did, which is hit
recording and and and and just go uh they'll wing it,
but but do it. Uh. It was funny. I was
out for a walk this afternoon. I was thinking about
how they malay in Argentina. Now, Javier Malaya and Argentina

(41:24):
to me has been a very controversial figure because he's
such a clown. I have a hard time taking him seriously.
But Argentina is a good case study in the multiple
asset extraction processes. Right where they you know, they they
they peg the peso to the dollar, and knowing full
well it's going to fail, they bring the they get

(41:46):
the saddle them up with IMF loans and everything else,
and they keep the country on life support while they're
slowly but surely extracting all the wealth from it. And
then eventually we had a catastrophic mutation and and uh
we wound up with Javier Malay, and Malay, for as

(42:06):
it looks right now, looks to be the guy who
has actually broken that broken that chains. As of right now,
I'm not convinced he's not going to you know, hand
the whole thing off later on, but as of right now,
he's doing what looks like the right thing. And we'll

(42:27):
we'll see how that plays out. Because what here's a
country that should be one of the richest countries in
the world with but you know, with their with their
immense uh natural resource well and they can and they
seem to be collapsed every fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
So I wonder about Malay because I've heard there's some
very credible friends of mine in the industry that Argentina
and they're in the crypto space blockchain token isaiah space
and exchanges and banks, you know, related exchange register exchanges

(43:07):
and banks, that there's been some approaches made to tokenize
the sovereign debt of Argentina.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And there's thought that you know, people way smarter than
I am on these things. I look more on the warfare,
you know, nobility kind of things. How do we fight
these fuckers?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
But one of the things that would make sense to
me is to use a couple of test cases where
you tokenize the debt, you clean up their governments so
it makes it look like they're going to be fiscally
responsible and that debt is going to have some value
and get paid off. You get, you get you. You
draw trillions of dollars of capital into these tokenized sovereign

(43:55):
debt structures, You create some secondary market markets, primary and
secondary markets for it. You let it play for a
little while, and then you actually retake control of your exchequer,
your treasury. You roll out an asset back you know,
hard asset backed or at least partial asset back currency,
so back to sound money, solid money, and you chain

(44:19):
off and parse off all of that sovereign debt, and
the old currency still valid, still real, still exists, it's
tokenized over there, there's still markets for it. But if
you want to convert it to the new currency, it's
one hundred to one or a thousand to one or more. Right, right,
And it's not like that hasn't happened before.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Not like that hasn't happened before. Yeah, no, that is
it is an interesting thing. So I have been I
have you know, it's funny. I have been very skeptical
of him for a variety of reasons, and that may
be one of them. He may wind up Argentina again,
may wind up being test case. As you just pointed out,
I'll have to think about that. I hadn't really considered

(45:05):
it from that perspective before. So let's talk about where
we've been the cases. We've talked a little bit about
China being one of the successful cases for and Russia
to a lesser extent, being successful and and fighting this,

(45:26):
and then let's let's let's take it a little one
step further. Let's talk about this a little bit, that
little bit more, because then we obviously now deal with
the new relationship between Europe, the UK, Canada, and the
United States. But let's talk about the Russians a little bit.
Because you were you were talking, you were touching on

(45:48):
this earlier, and I think it's it's important. How did
Putin get out from underneath the all of the the
baggage that he was that Russia was settle uh saddled
with when he started. So if you want to start there,
I think that would be a good. Yeah, then we
have a back and forth with be all like it's fine.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah. So I've been looking very hard over the last
year or so as i've been writing this novel asthro
and Burns and diving into all this stuff going back
eight hundred years or so, and there's something that has
always struck me as wrong. And I'm going to bring

(46:31):
this back to Russia and China, okay, because it's very
important and it's actually a little bit of a conversation
you and I have had previous with Tommy mm hmm.
I've never liked the term British.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
There were a people long ago called the Britons. They
were pretty small, populist. They pretty much got wiped out
by six hundred seven hundred eighty held. A lot of
them died in the Roman Legions. The whole term Britain,
the Britain, the British, the British Empire actually was the
Dutch East Indies Company Post you know, sixteen eighty eight

(47:16):
hostile takeover construct and what does it do? What did
it do?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Well?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
We were the English civilization, We were an English people,
We were the English civilization. We were composed of a
number of different ethnic groups, five primary ethnic groups, and
a bunch of you know, in languages. And I mean
we were a civilizational people, and we had developed a
very sophisticated civilization and structure and all of that. But
you come in, you know, these continentals come in with

(47:43):
this British thing and rob us of all of that,
that entire identity, that entire history. Okay, So your question
about Russia Putin. Putin was elevated by a number of
different factions and some of the oligarchs for two reasons. One,

(48:06):
he is devoutly Russian and as a civilization right, as
a civilizational people who came out the other side of
communism that killed tens of millions of them to try
and wipe out the Russian civilization. It failed utterly. Yes,
you can't wipe out a civilizational people because it's a

(48:30):
thread that binds different people. In Russia's is what one
hundred and twenty different ethnic groups, one hundred and forty
language groups, right, So number of different factions elevated Putin
because he was one fiercely loyal to the Russian civilization
and the Russian peoples. And that's not just the pale

(48:52):
skins like us, but it was all the Russian peoples,
all the Russian speaking civilizational peoples that stretched from Saint
Petersburg to Vladivostok, from it on to the Arctic circle. Right,
that's one. Two. He was incorruptible. You couldn't buy him, No,

(49:14):
you couldn't. You know, there's all these claims that you know,
run he's the wealthiest man on it. Actually, Putin's wealth
is under a billion dollars, remember something, and somewhere around
three hundred four hundred million dollars. He doesn't have these yachts,
he doesn't have the private none of it. Well, if
you look historically, when you're in that position of a

(49:38):
strong dictator, and it is a dictator in little classical sense,
and I'll come back, because that's where this word comes from.
A dictator with somebody was elevated by the peers to
have these normal powers to break these financial kill chains
of the past, and then they gave up those powers
at certain point, or sometimes they had to maintain them.

(49:58):
So Suton was given these extraordinary powers. Well, because he's
fiercely loyal to the Russians. He's not going to sell
out to the British, He's not going to sell out
to the Americans. He's not going to sell out to
the Germans. He's not right, he doesn't it while he
respects and appreciates he is Russian. Okay, Well, that brings
him the loyalty of everybody from the poorest person in

(50:19):
the country to most of the wealthiest, including a good
number of their quote unquote liberals. Because Russian liberals are different,
having come through communism, they've been disavowed of a lot
of deceptions, you know, a lot of concepts. The third one,
so he's incorruptible. The third one is that motherfucker is
unbeli believably competent.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yes, he really is, right.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Really, he's a judo guy, and everything he does is judo.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
So many times I used to talk about Putin far
more than I have in the in the recent in
recent years, but I've studied Putin left right, in center
em and I can tell you this a couple of things.
I've heard stories about Putin from people who've who are
you know, secondhand stories and people who met him and
dealt with him when he was a you know, when
he was a when he was a clerk you know,

(51:17):
in Moscow, and he was the only guy that couldn't bribe, right,
you know, that the normal way of doing business in
Moscow in the nineties before he became mayor of I
think he was mayor of Moscow before he became that.
When he was you know, after the fall of the
Soviet Union, he comes back from you know, working for
the KGB over in East Germany and then comes back
and his his his career takes him to you know,

(51:40):
basically you know, he's working the property desk or something
in inside the Moscow government and people going to him
to get you know, permits or whatever it was. I
can't can't remember the story I was told with seven
or eight years ago, so forgive my lack of specific
memory on this stuff. But the you know, I heard
this directly from somebody like we went to talk to

(52:02):
get this thing done that we couldn't get done without
spending money, you know, without bribing seventeen people. And and
the guy who you know that they dealt with that
day was like no, it's fine. And here and and
he was unbribeable and he didn't need to be brought
they gave He gave them what they want because he
was doing his job. So he was like the only
guy in the Russian you know, in the Moscow government,

(52:25):
and that's you know.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Think about how much Judo he would have had to
have done to be a guy that didn't take bribes
when everybody else around him was m that's one way
to get off right there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Mm hmm. Yeah, no, I know, make everybody look bad
right now. At the same time, I'm I'm I'm going
to tell you that you know, he's unbelievably competent and
and you know, and Judo, you let your opponents strike first,
and you use their enemy, use their energy against them,
and then you put them on the ground.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
That's right, and they can't get up again.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You know, It's not a matter are starting to bite,
it's amount of it's the amount of it. It's about
ending the fight. So yeah, no, he has a.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Very interesting Yeah, no, absolutely question because one of who
replaces him, That's where the real concern for the world
should be is who replaces him? How that happened and
it's not like they're not you know, they don't have
that sorted as well. It's not like the Russians haven't
been through transition periods before, right, right, right, some of

(53:29):
which had eighty years of knights of knives as opposed
to you know, three or four knights. So you know
that's you know, that's Putin was elevated. So I'm a monarchist, right, nobility,
I'm a nobility guy. I believe peoples are really only
truly straight, safe and secure and free historically under strong

(53:55):
capable princes who are really really capable, And unfortunately you
don't always get those right of course, is what left open.
The reason Putin was able to rise is because he
is incorruptible. He is fiercely loyal to the Russian civilization
and the Russian people's uh, and he's extremely competent. But

(54:16):
the real reason is because people will follow that motherfucker,
even when they're pissed and angry with him or they
don't like something, they will follow him. Why because they
know that he has there he cares about their civilization.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
And I want to go back to why this British
thing has always bothered me since I was a kid,
even though I was raised to believe my father is
Irish and my mother. She's got some explaining to you
because the DNA tests a few years ago said, Ah,
your father's not Irish, He's English. So I was raised
to hate the English. Is what I'm getting at with

(54:57):
a passion. So I I'm not the kind of guy
who does therapy, but I might have went to war
in Afghanistan to worked out. No, I'm joking, but we
all have our different forms of therapy. Yeah, we sanction
murder sometimes, is yeah, great therapy. Actually I say that.

(55:21):
I say the dirtiest ever felt was when I was
an investment banker and I had to go to war
and kill people to feel better about myself. That's how
bad it is.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Wow, right, that's how dirty that my therapy is out
is out there, like my my therapy is right out
I side my window, under a tree roxing in the shade.
Her name's Kmena. She's a guardian dog like you know
what I mean. You know she's protecting me as actually
why she spends all day protecting me while I'm in

(55:51):
my office.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Well, I'm a I'm an older man now too, so
I think that. But point being is that this British
thing is always stuck to me is something that was
a sigh oup done to deny the English speaking people
the recognition that they are as civilization. We're not Europeans,
We're not continentals, as you and I talked about with Tommy.
We are English. Doesn't matter if I'm from when you

(56:13):
know my family's Welsh or Scottish or Irish or pict
Or or Brittanny or celt or Gale or right, doesn't matter.
We are English. And this whole British thing has been
a deception from the very beginning to deny us that
common nature, that common or the recognition that we are civilization.

(56:36):
Without that, you can dominate a people. You can take them,
turn them against one another, you can homogenize them, right,
you can keep them from recognizing that, Wait a second,
we are part of something that's worth fucking fighting.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
For, right, yep, right, That's what I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Had to have to get all the people, including all
the arts, which you had to get riceritosom because they
were erupted and they were owned, et cetera. But the
thing that allowed Putin to rise is that first and foremost,
he is Russian, and he's for the Russian civilization. It's
the same as G. It is the exact same as G.

(57:16):
If you ever listened to G, like you listened to
Putin's speeches, G is Chinese and one he's also incorruptible.
He's also not been taking bribes. He's been against bribery
since the very beginning. That's part of what the why
the the Politburero elevated him because he's been against him

(57:36):
since he was a low level guy and merit you know,
in the Mandarin meritocracy system. He's ludicrously capable and proven
that over decades. But first and foremost, if you listen
to G talk, and I mean actually listened to him,
not the bullshit you know that we're told the translations

(57:57):
like Putin, almost every conversation she had as is about
China and the Chinese, right, it's about their civilization.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Right. So now who embodies that in the United States?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Well, his hair is not as orange as was the
last time.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
And why do you think they hate him so much?
The same the same problem they have with Victor Orban
and Hungary, the same problem they have everywhere else. Anyone
who stands up for their actual civilization, for their people,
for their for the people themselves. They have to be
taken down. And you know, I feel, you know, I
even think about somebody like Marine la penn and France,

(58:39):
whom I don't have the you know, dependent I think
is a more complicated figure in that in a sense.
But I don't doubt her loyalty to France. I doubt
I doubt the loyal I doubt that anybody should be
loyal to France. But that's a different But that may be,
you know, the italianemy speaking so the.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
English and the Scottan me agree with you. By the way, I.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Didn't think that was gonna I didn't think that was
going to go badly because company or anything. But I
had to put it out there, especially, you know, given
how Macron and and the and the Italian deep state
are working so hard to like carve off northern Italy
away from away from Italy and France the truty of

(59:23):
Karen Ali, which I've talked about in the past. So
the so this is the thing, this is I think
the fundamental nature of what what we're dealing with here
is like that we can all complain at the margin
about how Trump is going about re establishing a an

(59:44):
American identity at a you know, at a societal level,
or at the least truly establishing that again. And but
you can't, you know, you shouldn't question. This is why
I a fundamentally back Trump in every way because I
believe it. I believe he believes all that small ship

(01:00:05):
about America the beautiful and all of our all all
of our mythology and and everything else. I think he believes,
and I think he means that. I think he cares
about it more so any American leader, probably even more
so than Reagan did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I think Eisenhower was the last one we had
that was really America America. And before that, I think
it was probably Teddy Roosevelt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Maybe, I don't know. I'm not a big fan. I
don't know Teddy Roosevelt. Like he allowed Dutch, he allowed
for the fucking Woodrow Wilson to come to power. Who
the older more. I'mlike, you know, he's the worst for
him president. He's on my list of worst presidents. Lincoln's
off the list, now, like you know what I mean,

(01:00:52):
you know, I mean Biden doesn't. I don't count I
don't consider Biden president, he was a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Wilson is where the first infrastructure for them of the
parasite from Britain to the United States happened. That's where
that first infrastructure started to be put in place at
that level.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Right, like where's where's Britain right now? Britain's at the
collapse stage, right, and so now they need to unleash
hell in the streets of Ireland and you know, the
old heart of the old Empire. They have to unleash
hell there to cover what they've done. Right, So why
do you think they flooded with you know, MAM's right,
military age males. Yes, why do you think they've been start?

(01:01:30):
You know, so Britain doesn't have the military to go
to war anymore, so they can't destroy it with war.
And nobody there, or nobody who's Britain's enemy, has the
ability to conquer the British Isles because go ahead and try,
you know, I might have a beef with my dad,
try and beat my dad up in front of me, right,

(01:01:53):
exactly right, it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And it's very clear that what they've done to the
Scots is they've destroyed them with welfare, correct, well, you
know that was very obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And they also stripped them of theirs, their own native
assets and revenues and all of that, their own economic independence,
et cetera. And that's been going on for quite some time,
because you don't want a wealthy you don't want people
north of the Hadrian's Wall who can fund a war
against you, because boy, they've done it for a long time,

(01:02:23):
and we kind of like it. Oh and by the way,
we got this thing called Scotch and we get a
little cantankerous. Well we've been drinking a finger to a Scotch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Oh, we call it Bourbon down here in the South,
and Irish down here as well. And the funny part,
just to give you an idea, just again, to put
a finer point on a lot of the things that
you've touched on here about taking the people's identity, identity
away from them up until braveheart Americans of Scottish extraction

(01:02:57):
and Scottish or scott it's Irish extraction here in the South. Right,
I've been in the South on the transplant of New Yorker.
You know, came down here as a classic Yankee and
i've you know, eventually, you know, I think I get
the South after thirty eight years. And and but I
remember having at many a conversation with with you know,

(01:03:18):
when I worked for the university with a graduate student
from Georgia with whose last name was Hartisan, so he
was Scottish, but he I remember hearing all of this
out of people that you know, for years it was
you know, well what name is that, Well, it's American.
They would have denied the fact that they were Scottish,

(01:03:41):
of Scottish are And it was only until after you know,
Mel Gibson makes Braveheart, that Scottish pride started to actually
make itself known because they had been so beaten down
after the recent unpleasantness for the Civil War. But it's
commonly known as the Civil War that all went underground,

(01:04:02):
that all got spressed, that's all it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Was ever that. Yeah, No, so I totally agree that
I've heard you articulate this prior, and you're absolutely right.
This goes back earlier, though, go when when the hostile
takeover and I'm not going to call it the glorious
Revolution anymore. Fair, right, great pr firm behind that motherfucker, right,

(01:04:26):
But the steady dismemberment of the English civilization and identity
and its constituent members began in the sixteen hundreds, right,
and again as much as I in the early you know,
because there was forty years of activity, fifty years of

(01:04:50):
activity trying to make the sixteen eighty eight event happen.
But they got They ran into a roadblock this guy
named Cromwell.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's the same thing that happened in France. They ran
into a roadblock with this guy named Napoleon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Mm hmm, right, right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
They were able to get all, you know, all the
the financialist kill chain assets together to go after Napoleon
and finally bring him down. Well, he was on the continent.
You can't do that against Britain, the British Isles. Try
and do that against Cromwell on the British you know,
that's the thing. The British Isles are a fortress. Where

(01:05:34):
do Americans get their fortress mentality from?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Why is why is the American con Why was it
so important for the what was the westward expansion stuff
called I can't remember, you know, the manifest destiny? Why
was it so important for manifest destiny? Because that was
the only way we were going to have fortress America
the seas, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
James Polk ran on the you know fifty four to
forty or fight, correct, that was his that Canada was
not supposed to be the forty ninth parallel. We were
supposed to take all of western what is today Western Canada,
which is all of you know, Alberta's has pass. When
they yeah, you can have up to the fifty four,
you know, fifty fourth parallel. We don't care about there's
nothing up there. We want everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
And I think that's all happening. Yeah, I think that's
all happening, right, because I want to go to so
I want to bring something back though, just really sink
it in, right, really important, because it's so fundamental and
everything we're doing. Yes, it's make America great again. Yes,
it's you know, the great city on the mountaintop, right,

(01:06:37):
the old Roman reference and Byzantine reference in Moscow reference too,
by the way, But that's right, the shining city on
the hill. But what makes it that we are English?
We are the descendants and the keepers and the greatest
strength and power of the English civilization. And we need
to remember that because they are going to do every

(01:07:00):
you know, as they collapse the United Kingdom, they have
to go all out here to cut us of everything
that we have, remaining, every asset we have, every everything
right they have to execute, you know, the sixth step
in in the seventh step kills chain. They have to
go all out. And the way do you do that
is you tear people apart from the inside.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yes, absolutely what they're doing. And and what did Trump
do when he called Canada the fifty first state? He
awakened latent nationalism within a can within a Canadia that
had been completely overrun and deracinated. And we and in
some ways it's both, it was both a it was both.

(01:07:44):
It's a double edged sword what he did because we
because it gave him, gave us, It gave him, It
gave it gave Canada. And and you know what you
want to call I called him Davos, You call them
your fourth Reich, the e U, S S R. I
don't care. It'll pay them all. They're all it's all
the same thing, ultimately. Yeah. And but now Mark Carney's

(01:08:06):
installed this Prime Minister of Canada and his job now
is to liquidate Canada and make it a destabilizing force
on the US northern border while we're fixing the sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
So I I have a slightly while I think that's
part of it, I have a slightly different take on
why Trump said what you did about Greenland and Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Okay, I'd love to hear it look at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Its most basic. Somewhere probably ten years ago, ten twelve
years ago, maybe a little longer ago, some of our
oligarchs realized finally woke up and realized that Europe was
out a lot war with us, that that the the

(01:08:54):
Dutch East Indies Company had us slated next for assembly
and collapse. And we realize, they realize that we're going
to have to get involved. And that's a very complicated
thing because your own house is riddled through with you know,
people in support, you know of the enemy and plants,

(01:09:19):
and your own security is you know, you don't even
know your own security people, your intelligence community, your special
operations community, your law enforcement, your judges. Right so you're
riddled right through by the enemy. So they realize, no,
our same enemy that's been the enemy for two thousand
years is still fucking Europe. Russians don't care. Russians don't

(01:09:40):
need a damn thing we got. They got way more
than they can ever use. And they don't have the
manpower to man that, you know, to you know, it's
like what do they need land or something. It's like
Jesus Christ the correct and look at their open door
policies and they're bringing in whole families. Okay, brilliant, Okay. China, China,

(01:10:02):
China is their enemy. China's got one point three billion people.
Do you have any idea the complexity of dealing with
that on a day to day basis? You think they
got time to handle another billion fucking people who aren't Chinese,
who aren't can assimilate?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You ever try to speak Mandarin or learn Mandarin? You
study writing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
I study Russia college. It was hard enough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Like no, yeah, I don't remember. When he was younger,
I had a thing for Slavic women until I dated
a few.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yea, fair, I I got a I know, I speak
a little bit. That's pretty much all I speak. I
can say that like no, no, no, no, don't get
any I don't remember any of it, like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
So I think to the and this is you know, Alex.
You and Alex had a conversation with Crypto Rich. I
think I don't know the general's name. I just know
his Twitter handle. Right, it was the only show I've
only seen with you guys. I've seen one more of
him and Alex and somebody else. But there was a
question that Alex was working through that really got me

(01:11:14):
going right that oriented, And that was the statement he
made about the heart of the Old Empire seems to
have all this power, all this soft power if we
just don't quite understand and can't quite see, but it's
still quite substantif it can do all this stuff around
the world, it can move all kinds of resource. Okay,

(01:11:35):
that really got me thinking, because I spent decades studying
the heart of the Old Empire and et cetera. We
are we the Russians, the Iananians, well, the Middle East,
which is tired of war and doesn't want war anymore.

(01:11:56):
We just did war there for twenty five years, really
for forty years, Like hey, you white people, go away.
We're done listing your expertise and fuck off. We don't
want any more of your wars, and we don't care
if you sell we sell you oil anymore. We can
go east, right, and you're not the biggest economies anymore,
and you're collapsing and everything's fake and gay where you

(01:12:17):
are anyway, So we'll we're gonna go the other way, right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
That's no agreed. So they're tired of being, They're tired
of being having everybody play, you know, play one faction
against each other. They finally get the game. You can
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Everybody. Everybody loves a good bar fight. But at two thirty,
the lights need to go on. Everybody needs to fucking
go home. The Middle East is like to thirty, turn
the fucking lights on already. Can we just get this
fight over, go home? We can fight again tomorrow night, fine, right,

(01:12:53):
or next weekend or whatever, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, we'll talk about it when we get to the end.
Times bro, let's let's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
This is exactly so what I'm I'm looking as. Okay,
this is what got me onto the Dutch East Indies
Company and the hostile takeover. This conversation you and alex
Ad and I had somebody else reach out to me recently,
autistic Indian Fellow, which I guess you've been introduced to
as well. I can't remember. I'm horrible with names, so

(01:13:20):
forgive me. And I was supposed to stay Hi from
an Irishman as well. That was also introduced. Anyways, right
I think we're yeah, yeah, John, we're dealing with the
isolation of Europe. Yes, if you look at so you know,

(01:13:43):
you guys have done well, Alex, particularly the Red Seas
blocked with the hoodies. Do you think we haven't. We've
been fighting the hoodies for ten years. We haven't been
fighting the hoodies for ten years. They don't have that
many hoodies. We've been dumping massive amounts of bombs into
fucking sand. Right, we can do that for years, for decades.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
M h.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
And we can simulate a war with the a war
with the hoodies. Really, you could just glass the whole
fucking place. We don't where do we adopt the bombs?
You know what I mean? So right, right, right point
is the whole thing's that's that's an artificial conflict. Why
because it locks down the Red Sea? Mm hmm okay,

(01:14:31):
what other well exactly, And it's Cordon Sanatae a right everything.
You're setting up a court on Santaea, so okay, Suez Canal, Well,
we don't want to block it on the Indian Ocean side.
Those folks need accents. So we need to control the Mediterranean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Okay, Turkey has the largest army in NATO. Yep, it's
got a twenty years of combat experience. It's actually pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
It's well armed. Yep, it's self sufficient, doesn't need funding
or moneys from anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
And now they control Syria and thereby Lebanon, yep. Most
of the level. And we're moving in assets into Greece
from various parts of Europe. Russia is gonna end up
with the whole. They're gonna take Odessa. It's eventually off
because it's Russian. Yes, there is nothing more Russian than Odessa.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
So Okay, So there's the Eastern med and beautiful Maloney
was just in d C talking to President Trump and team,
not just Trump, right, yep. So we have our most

(01:15:56):
lethal I don't know if you know this or not,
but the most lethal force is that we have. And
all of Europe are all already in Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yes I did not know that, but I knew having
spoken to people who were who were on the ground
in Italy and are again to every of what's going
on there. That you know, the American military has the
biggest Our biggest presence is is in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Italy surgical air, air surgical, and human surgical. We used
to have a unit up in Germany, but this it's
been mild mild. Unit I was in the first group
version of it has been disbanded. So we used to
have very capable surgical capabilities in Germany, but now most

(01:16:39):
all of them are in Italy. Okay, so that locks
down the Eastern Mediterranean. Yes, we don't want to not
lock down the Southern Mediterranean because those people need free
flow of goods and everything else and they're not our enemies,
and we're not war with you know, and we need
Libya and Italy needs exactly coming from im from Ulgeria. Yeah, okay.

(01:17:03):
Morocco has never been our enemy of Morocco except for
back in the old Barbary Coast days. And you know,
back in that but you know, that was why the
US Navy was created, et cetera. And actually it's why
the Constitution was ratified, so you can have taxes and
then have the money so that you could build ships
so you can go fight the Barbary pirates. Right, give

(01:17:25):
me a second. You need Spain. Spain has ports. Yes,
you're on the Mediterranean side, on the Valencia side. You
need to be able to lock down the streets of Gibraltar. Yes,
there's a little island there called the Rock. There's the

(01:17:45):
Rock of Gibraltar. So if you got Spain and what
had country wide blackouts yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I know, I know, I got no. I agree your Yeah,
now you're absolutely it was a threat when I noticed this.
I don't know if we touched on it the last
time we spoke, but the last last time that the
EU was pushing hard for another round of Bundy to
keep Ukraine alive. It wasn't just Hungary saying no in

(01:18:16):
the European Council, it was they were Orban was joined
by Georgia, Maloney in Italy, Spain, Portugal and Slovakia. Now
Slovakia obviously Robert Fista guy survives nine bullets to the
chest and and they think they're gonna get hit, they
think they're gonna roll this guy too. He's as tough
as nails and spits roussangs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
He's a gag.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Yeah, absolutely so. And I looked at it and I'm like,
think about all of that. Think about what we just
said with with the us moving their assets in the
Greece as my as my good friend and partner Dexter
White reminds me all the time, no one fucks with
the Greek navy. The Greeks are still excellent at one there,

(01:18:59):
They're still excellent. It's something, and that's voting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
For the off the books operations, which most of this
kind of conflict really is, right low viz or no
viz conflict. There are no better and older, more trusted
networks of ports and sea lanes and shipping lanes in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
And the Greeks, Yes, right, that's what. That's that's what
that's what Dextra right it is getting at. And so
you have the whole thing and all that tells me
that what's left.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
The United Kingdom?

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
No, no, no, But I'm saying, as far as the
northern Mediterranean coast, the only things roll is the French riviera,
which we don't care, right because it's not. If they
were ever going to be industrial or they were ever
going to build commercial ports, it would have been by now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
So I used to be in the yacht industry, okay,
I had, I had a little right before I went
back to my forties into special operations or went into
the army in special operations. I was in the yacht
industry and I lived on the island of cour Pica
in cup course with the Celts. The Celtic people's there
and they're a trip. And then we have shipyards in

(01:20:09):
viat Edgio, Italy, so I could go east to viet Edgio,
and our corporate officers were in Marseilles, so I would
either go north and west on the ferry boat to
go to Bloom or one of the other point being
is I know the southern coast of France very well

(01:20:29):
from having traveled quite a bit and then having been
in the yacht industry in the you know, fifty five
plus meter motor yachts and traveling in that area a
lot and a lot of clients there, et cetera. They
just don't have the ports, they don't have the rails,
they don't have any of it, and they don't you know,
you're not going to be able to build it up right,

(01:20:51):
And that's the other thing. What do you now? They
You could do forced Nazi like sleigh labor camps to
build these assets and resources up, but you don't have
the native populations to do it. So you're gonna have
to fall in on assets and resources that were already
established in the last fucking war, right, right, because nothing's

(01:21:14):
really changed there. So you're absolutely right. My brother, actually
younger brother, actually lives in Portugal, out of the UK,
so that was a threat.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Spain has another threat, has two threats. One it doesn't
ever want to go. It despises the Marxists because of
what they did to in the Spanish Civil War and
what led up the Spanish Civil War. While the Spain,
while Spain has liberals and you know, very left leaning

(01:21:47):
kind of people, they will they will never allow their
country to go Communists again, because it's still in the
living memory of some people. Right. Spain has another problem
that is something that hasn't been seen in Europe for
a very long time. They have a popular king who
actually really cares about his people. I don't know if

(01:22:09):
you saw the whole thing with the floods down in
Valencia last year. Now, he was down with the Prime Minister.
He and his lovely wife, Her Majesty, went down there
with the Prime Minister. People were upset and angry because
services weren't helping and weren't getting in there. His Majesty
and her Majesty got out of the vehicle and they
were pummeled with mud and people were yelling and screaming,

(01:22:31):
and the Prime Minster got right back in his car
and fled. He's a weefee right right. Well, his Majesty
and her Majesty were already popular. Now they're way more popular,
and he's been saying things about we need to get these,
you know, as careful as he can. Right. But were

(01:22:54):
Spain to be provided the assistance it needs to be
able to defend itself, people would rally to the king
unlike any other leader anywhere else in Europe except for
maybe Hungary right right and Russia right. So that's a
huge threat and heaven forbid capable Prince's return to the

(01:23:17):
leadership in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
I'm putting out some pieces tomorrow about that on this
chain of thoughts. So the other crazy thing, and I
don't big on coincidences, is her Royal Highness Leonora, the daughter.
Their daughter is going to visit the Trumps, and there's
this whole hubub that she and Baron have been introduced

(01:23:40):
already and that they've been having conversations. Well, what happened
at the end of the last Baroque era, you know,
the last you know, Gilded Age, American wealth went back
to Europe and married into the noble and royal houses
and recapitalized them. It's the last thing the Dutch East
Indies Company and its descendants want, right, strong, wealthy, capable

(01:24:04):
princes who can afford their own goddamn knights, who can
war for the people. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
So it's just funny.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
It goes aside from the geostrategic stuff right in the Mediterranean.
The day after that visit goes, i mean goes viral
and social media. The whole of Spain and Portugal blacks out. Wow,
It's like, oh, come on, come on, come on. What

(01:24:34):
it also does, though, is, if it's as correct, what
it tells me there's more to the Baron Trump and
her Royal highness than right, that there's something actually probably there.
So okay, So now you've got the Red Sea, you've
got the Levant lockdown, you've got the Ionian Sea lockdown,
you've got Italy probably locked down. Because do you think

(01:24:56):
the Mob and the Vatican are gonna let these ass
falls from Germany and France control them? That's an old fight.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Yeah, that's a very old fight, right, And that's what
and that's why the that's why the situation with the
with the new Pope's gonna be very interesting, right uh.
And and more importantly, more importantly, it's going to be
who replaces Sergeiyo Matderella because as president who has way
overstepped his bounds in service of Davos or or whatever

(01:25:26):
you want to call them, and I like to call
them mother weffers by the way, just you know, so
they Mattarella is eighty three or eighty four years old.
He just went in for heart surgery, and it's like
they're all starting to either age out or be removed

(01:25:47):
from the scene at you know, you know, in in
in in order here Like I don't know about you,
but I don't see Prince Charles or sorry, King Charles
or King Sausage Fingers making it through the end of
the summer, aren't. If Mattarella is gone, who replaces him
is going to be very interesting because the Italian deep
state is, you know, it's I have to wonder, you know,

(01:26:11):
at it's very it least in a very you know,
precarious situation. Italy itself is its own two hour podcast,
which I don't have, you know, the nuance to really understand.
I only understand really kind of just blow the surface
level of all of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
This unreal complex.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
It is unbelievably complex and so to understand. But just
in broad general terms, it's exactly what I was. What
I walk.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yeah, let's walk up on the map. Okay, now you
got to take the United the British Isles next.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
M h.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
You gotta have them. The United States has to have one.
It's the homeland of our civilization, it's the the heart
of our civilization. The power this in this context, it's
like Rome was to Byzantium. Byzantium, Rose went on for
another thousand years from out of Rome, but they considered

(01:27:12):
themselves Roman, and they adhere to Rome, and they never
allowed Rome or anything around Rome to ever become a
genuine threat to them until the Vatican. It's have fifty
four schism mounted crusades against Byzantium. Most of the kingdoms
and principalities and dukedoms that were destroyed were Christian by
the crusaders, not Muslim. Right, they destroyed the Orthodox world

(01:27:35):
all the way across. So not to go back too far,
but point bing is that we need the British Isles.
We can't let them fall, not only because of their
intelligence networks around the world, their web of relationships and
obligations that go back generations upon generations upon generations. We

(01:27:56):
can't let ant. The British are also very good at
keeping records and we can't let that fall either, And
they got nukes and we can probably get the nukes
out of there, right. But the point is is that
what Britain is and what it represents, unless it just
gets nuked, we can't let it fall. We also can't

(01:28:19):
let it fall geologically because it sits right off the
coast of the continent of Europe. Yes, and it's a
fortress again, so we can't let it fall. Okay, Well,
if what we're dealing with is is the you know,
the predecessor, the successor to the Dutch East Indies Company

(01:28:43):
we also have that's Dutch German monies, we have to
finally get them out, you know, reverse the hostile takeover
and kick them the fuck out of Britain.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Once and for all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
City London's done, that's happening. It's being gutted now right,
We're margin calling that fucker over and it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
That's what that's what the flight and everything else is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
So that's exactly we've been margin calling the city of
London over and over and specifically yes, right much less
pressols and and and France and right, we've been all
these actions. If you really look at him, what has
it been. We've been margin calling fucking the city of
London again and again and again and again and again

(01:29:28):
for like the last eight years.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yep. Right, Well, and it's and it's tolerating and it's
accelerating now that we have so for yeah, and and
and so just to make sure that we're we're that
people are not confused here we're talking about And I
touched on this, like intuitively, I figured out what what

(01:29:50):
Trump's plan was. He's here to liberate everyone. He's here
to liberate the English, British Isles, He's here to liberate Canada,
He's here to liberate the United States, and ultimately he
actually wants to liberate and by extension, once you've done
all that, you liberate Europe. If Europe wants to be liberated.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Correct, you have to you have to choke off the
the arterial flow into the leadership of Europe. Yes, So
you have to do that by removing the entirety of
and all remnants of the former British Empire. Yes, you
have to, because that's the that's the lifeblood they've been

(01:30:28):
living on for the latter without creating a damn thing
themselves other than war. Yes, and communism and Nazism and genocide,
industrial scale geniide. I mean, they're brilliant innovators, fucking evil shits, yes,
fucking anyways, fucking Europeans. As they're gutting, as they're gutting

(01:30:53):
the entire British Empire, they've rebuilt your I mean, Europe
is beautiful, right, It's beautiful because we fucking paid for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
That, because we paid for it way more than once.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
We've paid for it in the Napoleonic era. We paid
for it in the sixteen hundreds, after the thirty eighty
one hundred year War, they rebuilt. Then they rebuilt in
the Napoleonic era in the eighteen hundreds, they rebuilt again
after World War two, you know, World War one, World
War two. Who paid for that, the fucking British, the
English speaking peoples, the English speaking world. So we've got

(01:31:26):
to cut that off that's what's happening. You also, though,
have to isolate them, yes, geographically, geologically right, Okay, I agree, Okay,
the body yep, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
So we worked all make sure everybody understands what we're
talking about. Means taking away the northern coast of the Mediterranean,
means taking control of the entirety of the Black Sea,
of taking it and turning into a Russian lake. It
means taking the Suez Canal, means taking the Red Sea,
it means, it means, it means its taking.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
The Arctic, Taking the Arctic, yes, and what do you
need to take the Arctic?

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Greenland and Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
And what was that? Greenland? Was another thing in Canada?
And what was the other thing that you need that
was with Greenland? It was the British telling the Dutch,
we're going to take your territory. You came and fucked
with us three hundred some odd years ago. We know
who the enemy is. The enemy is you, and we're
going to take your key strategic asset here. And oh,

(01:32:29):
by the way, we just stirred your and we already
have assets there, military assets, et cetera. And we just
got concessions to add more. But what's happening is we
are telling these Dutch bankers, right, We're telling the Dutch
the successor of the Dutch East Indies Company, which is
the successor of Venetian Banks. This all goes all the
way back. We see you. You are the enemy. We

(01:32:52):
are ready to remove you, that's right, and we are
not going to get you can re arm, you can
do whatever the fuck you want to. We're not gonna
expend any more of our treasure and lives of young
men and some young women, but really young men, and
money and debt and indebt our people to continue to

(01:33:13):
fight you fuckers. We're gonna wall you off, and you
can arm all the fuck you want to with whatever
resources you can figure out how you're gonna get from
somewhere in the world because you lost Russia and Eastern Europe,
so you ain't gonna have that opportunity. And if you
somehow get through Eastern Europe, you got Turkey there, good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Right, I agree, Like, let's let's wall the place off
and turn it into a John Carpenter movie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
That's a Paris, escape from Antwerp, escape from Brussels, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
That's why I've been saying for you is is like, well, okay,
let's just you know, let's like wald Off and turn
New York into a John Carpenter movie. You're la and
that no, seriously, Carpenter. And in his own way, John
Carpenter kind of understood all this, like in his own
kind of intuitive way, he really did. And I know
I've been saying that for years, so I've never really

(01:34:11):
thought about it in terms of actually, you know, doing
not to Europe. But that's exactly what needs to be done,
and and it's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Let me give you another little piece that we should
have all picked up on but we missed. Remember the
movie Mike Myers movie, Uh Austin Powers gold Member, mm hmm.
Remember Michael Caine was the father and he says, there's
only two things I hate. People who are intolerant of
other people. And the fucking Dutch he was telling us,

(01:34:44):
he was telling us, and the enemy was And.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
The worst part about it is there's Mark Mike Myers
out there going elbows up with fucking the bloodless thin
lip Glzolensky. That's what I'm gonna call uh Mark Carney
because that's what he is. And and uh, you know, like,
oh my god, elbows up, it's just ridiculous, Like and

(01:35:08):
you know, I don't and I'll be honest with you,
I don't think Mark Carney. I think I think Trump
did what he did. Yeah, there's a lot of people
that have a lot of opinions at this point about
why Trump did what he did with the whole city
first state thing. But you know, and I think that
it was a message.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
It was a message of black Rock, which is the
new which I suspect is the new Dutch East Indies Company.
I look at these cycles as well. I did some
research before we go on here. I'll publish it tomorrow.
But we have to think of like the Dutch East
Indies Company as a special purpose vehicle. It wasn't built
the last It was established and chartered and funded and

(01:35:48):
empowered to go out and build business networks and relationships
that gave it access into all the various different assets
and how it could look at different assets in different
parts of the world, value those assets, figure out how
to gain some you know, buy three percent, you know what.

(01:36:08):
The same ship that we do when we're going to
do a corporate you know, take over here in the
United states right, or overseas or you know, you know,
it's all corporate. That the way these people think is banking, right,
investment banking specifically, and debt. How do you you know

(01:36:30):
collateral debt and you know the methods and mechanisms by
which you use debt to acquire those assets to collateralize
further debt somewhere else. That's the They don't get any
more complicated than that. Right now. It's ludicrously complicated in
how it plays out. But the key piece in there

(01:36:51):
is that step where they have to go out and
identify the assets. Well, they have to have a viable
reason to do that, because nobody's going to tell you.
They're not going to open the books to you. They're
not going to show you. Well, when you got a
twenty two trillion dollar fucking assets under management, people are
going to open their fucking underwear for you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Right, yep, right. So, but we can take care of
that like we can. We do not have to do like.
That's why I'll be honest with you. This is part
of the reason why now we really start to think
about what Trump is talking about, which is I can
replace I can replace taxation with tariffs and nobody wants
to admit that he could because he can. And uh,

(01:37:34):
you know, if his initial numbers that he's throwing out
there are correct, that he's saving the United States five
billion dollars a day. Right now, that's the national debt,
that's the that's the budget deficit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
There's another shot in there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
There's a big signal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
There's another signal that a bigger you know, somebody like you,
one of you organic chemists, you know, in the chemical engineer,
you know, in the engineering world. Right, We've got the
layers of intelligence, right, We've got the civil engineers and
mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, and then you fucking chemical engineers.
So uh, it would take somebody bigger brained like you

(01:38:16):
than me to know these things and work them out.
But there was a signal in there a couple times,
and then it went away, okay, and it came from
several different sources, which gives it more credence, okay, And
whether it's true or not, what it signals is very interesting.

(01:38:36):
And the articulation was basically, our debt's not as big
as it's we're told it is. Yes, that a lot
of this debt isn't actually real, it's debt owned owe
two entities from other entities within the same entity. M right,

(01:38:58):
what happens again? I keep going back, you know, so
I get it now. Dutch East Indies Company, Venetian Banking.
This is all legit. People can look this all up, right, Okay,
how do they think? They think like corporate raiders, right,
and corporate raiders don't think about building an asset that last.
Corporate raiders make all their money in the transactions and

(01:39:20):
the chaos. Yes, and then they'll hold on to a
small number of quick key assets. Which is why black
Rock has the you know, tens of billions of dollars
of actual value, is that they've actually held on to
some of those key assets. But that's not how you
create wealth. You create wealth in the chaos and the transactions. Yeah,

(01:39:46):
put them together in the collapse scene.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Yeah, you and you set and you set the and
you set the collapse in motion through being on both
sides of the trade, creating molatility and ball washing all
the small the small players out of out of the
market until you're the only person left. And then you're
on both sides, and then you're the market maker on
both sides of the train, right. I watched the ship going,
been watching the show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know there's another thing on
the clean up side, right on the on the collapse
side of things, so you create. And I watched this
because I, you know, my back's tech and telecommunications and
specifically but fintech before that, although on the telecom infrastructure
side and et cetera. Uh. I watched this in the

(01:40:32):
two thousand and one through two thousand and seven era,
in the post dot com. On the telecom if you know,
because we invested about a trillion dollars in telecom infrastructure
around the world, it was all collapsing. I watched this
with companies like Alcatel and lusened and you know spinouts.
There was all these companies they go buy, they agglomerate,

(01:40:54):
and then they'll spin a company out, you know, setle
it with massive amounts of debt, spin it out, do
an ip right, Okay, you can only do that so much.
There's only so much appetite and then you're not going
to get the value of those assets when you try
to do an IPO that's worth doing the thing. So
what do you do? You have all these cross entity

(01:41:18):
debts to each other. You just bankrupt them, all debt disappears.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
So if what they were signaling is that a lot
of this debt is just entity to entity under the
same parent debt, what happens if they start just collapsing
some of those entities, those debts go away because the
entity to which that debt was ohde is gone, doesn't
exist anymore. And you want a prime example, the disillusionment

(01:41:50):
of the Dutch East Indies Company in seventeen ninety nine
or whenever I might have got the exact date wrong.
Did it do away with the Dutch East Indy's company
and its infrastructure and it No, it's just that company
wasn't viot them anymore. It was a special purpose vehicle
spun up for the purpose. Like Blackrock, it's done, settled

(01:42:11):
up with debt, bankrupt it and all the companies that
know it debt, their debts are just all excused.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Yep. So all this debt that we you know, that
we have out there, well, this is you know we need.
I'm like, I'm flashing now when you think when you're
talking about that, and I'm thinking about what we heard
from Stephen Mirran and the the Mary A. Lago accords
and the threat that Trump threw back at Europe and said, well,

(01:42:42):
you know, you owe us a lot of money for
eighty years worth of defense and subsidization and everything else.
You know exactly would suck if we were to turn
around and you know, reissue the debt that is on
your balance sheets, on your international balances as zero percent,

(01:43:05):
one hundred years, zero percent coupone arrears.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
On the UN and the World Health Organization. Yeah, yeah,
all that the IMF and throw it all in there.
That's what we do. We drive you to a place
where the EU is just is dissolved. All that debt goes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Away yep, like and you make it unmarketable and now
all of a sudden their balance sheets will collapse. Yes,
and they and they don't exist and it literally doesn't
exist anymore like and they've been And this is the
funny part about this idiot, Mark Karney. He is that
I'm sure that he was advising behind the scenes that
as Powell was raising interest rates, I've made this point

(01:43:42):
a thousand times, but they were loading up on US
treasury debt in order to have a massive amount of
ammunition to throw at us if we ever decided to
get out from underneath them, and they were going to
you know, use the ball washing within the price of
our assets. As you know, the FED raised the lowered
interest rates and dealt with the the you know, manage

(01:44:04):
the monetary cycle that they were going to be able to,
you know, get they were going to be they can
they could deal with the hole in their balance sheet,
you know, by papering it over having the ECB do
yield curve control. Thinking in that respect, this is where
I'm going to go like a little little little geek here.
They do yield curve control, and in doing that, you

(01:44:24):
wind up you wind up setting the conditions for how
they are going to do fiscal and monetary and political
union right by bankrupting all the member central banks and
then rolling all that up into the into the EU.
Like Soros gave us the plan on this ages ago
when he said, we have to just we have to

(01:44:47):
just wipe out all the debt issued perpetual bonds at
some blow consoles at at low rates, and be done
with it. Wipe it off the books, get a clean
balance sheet and then use that. And I'm like, well, yeah,
to play that game, since since the ECB is literally
nothing but a hedge fund that manages the debts of

(01:45:09):
all the member central banks.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Well and plays them all off against each other.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
And yeah, you play everybody, and they've been playing everybody
off against each other. Meanwhile, the United States still has
a significant amount of their hard collateral under the you know,
at in the basement of the Mariner Ecles building, known
as their sovereign Gold, which we still haven't given back.
This is this is a point that no one wants
to really talk about because motherfucker possessions nine tenths of

(01:45:37):
the law you owe us.

Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
We don't know you shit, so and that's what's coming.
And they are totally pissed, totally agree. This is where
why we are.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Geospatially isolating them in Europe and taking away all their
lanes of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Recapitalizations. Are egret.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Now, I'm I'm gonna put on different that's absolutely true,
ingress and egress. Right. We don't want them to be
able to get resources in or and assets in that
they could use for war fighting and then to get
those war fighting resources out. Why because the only way
that they have to enforce some way that you know,

(01:46:23):
some way to force us to keep paying their debt
and pay them supporting them. They weren't able to suck
us into a war on the continent with Russia. So
that's off the table. It's not gonna happen. It's not
gonna happen in China, it's not gonna happen in Thedan.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Right, Like everybody's bragging now about oh, we did all
this covert action in Iran and we blew all this
stuff up. Well, okay, cool, you could do that. What
you just demonstrated those you're terrified of Iran's air defense
systems because you didn't use aircraft despite bragging about it
all over the damn place, right, So the concern and

(01:47:02):
in fact.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
You can play that game the Russians and the Iranians.
The Russians refused to really show anybody what their air
defense systems are capable of, and they wouldn't give that.
They wouldn't give that up for defending Syria or Lebanon
because it was not their strategic advantage to do. So.
We never put we never gave Ukraine competent F sixteen

(01:47:24):
pilots to fly over the war, so they didn't have
to use their best air defense then, so well, I
hear the people who say that none of Russia shit works.
I'm not sure that. I still I'm still on the
fence about all this about who's whose ship works doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
I don't know if anybody works. The absolute surest sign
that Russia shit works is we didn't use air. We
didn't support Ukraine with air. It's the surest sign that
Russia's ship works.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
It's the sure argument.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Otherwise we would have been using air because we sure
as used it in Yugoslavia, and we used it right Kosovo,
and you know we use our air everywhere else, our
shiny little toys. We sure fuck didn't use it in
the one major near peer war that we've had in
eighty years. Why, okay, we didn't use aircraft to bomb

(01:48:22):
eat On? Hegseeths Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbern recommended to Trump
that we don't do the Israeli plan to aircraft bomb
get On, Right, So what what did the intelligence community do?
Covert action? And you guys on the grounds that sabotage teams. Okay, cool,

(01:48:47):
that's that makes for some nice movie scripts later on.
But you just proved that you can't use aircraft, right
because the Israelis would have gone in alone, right and
maybe got some of the European idiots to go with him.
So here's my We have to look at history because

(01:49:12):
every you know, Fukiyama was a fucking moron when he
said that history is over. Okay, God bless him for,
you know, having so much hope in humanity. Uh. He
obviously was not Scottish or Italian or we would have
told him, are you a fucking idiot?

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
Oh my, yeah, absolutely. I can't argue with that point.
Damn not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
So history shows that what they'll do now and this
and I mean this genuinely right. And I had this
conversation with my friend. There are mutual contact there in
Ireland because they're talking about, you know, concern over the
power and all that. So if I was, if I
was going to suddenly massively rearm and reindustrialize to build

(01:50:08):
up my marshall capabilities to go to war with somebody
that I think owes me, you know, owes me debts
that they're telling me they're not going to pay because
they don't owe me, And that's the only way I
can get them to do that. I'm gonna put people.
I'm gonna put a bunch of brown people into concentrate
labor concentration camps like I did before, only they weren't brown.

(01:50:30):
They were just the undesirable white people, uh, and the gypsies.
And I'm going to suddenly massively reindustrialize. But I got
to cover that and hide that, because shit, we did
that in the last century and people kind of onto that,
and we got all this technology. The technology only works
though in the powers on. Yeah, I could do all

(01:50:52):
kinds of shit with rolling blackouts that randomly happened here
and there because I went to a green infrastructure, and
now I have kill switch all over the place, like
I just demonstrated with Spain and Portugal, and I could
do all kinds of horrible, horrible shit. No, we're obvious
moving it around right where those people go. Oh you

(01:51:15):
know they you know, we're stepping up anti immigration and
they went home. Well, they're not documented. Nobody knows who
the hell they are, where the hell they came from.
I got cops here in Idaho roll up people and
they're like, they have no idea, no identification whatsoever, nothing
to identify where they come from. We can arrest them.

(01:51:38):
Nobody knows where to deport them to. Right, you know
why they're deporting the guys right now, to the criminal ones,
et cetera. If you notice the people they're deporting is
the people that they know where they come from.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Right, We've got fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Tons of people in this country. We have no idea,
and Europe's way even worse, we have no idea where
the hell they come from. Well, guess what if I
was to do some evil ship to reindustrialize, rearm and
recollateralize my system, because there's no other way, because nobody
will play with me anymore because I'm a horrible bitch,
cunt fucking Nazi, right, and my toys, the Marxists aren't

(01:52:20):
working anymore. So I got to do it myself. I
would do some horrible ship. They ain't like they didn't
do it before. Right, how else did they recollateralize their
own system? They forced reindustrialized. How else did they do that? Well,
slave labor, it's the only way.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Slave labor and debt and asset stripping and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
And they're going to strip it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Yeah, well now they're going to strip. But the only
asset they have to strip of our own people are
their own people. And Canada they still have for at
least now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Let me get agreed. And that was the statement to
the Dutch again, right, gold member Uh. That was Trump
and the American power system uh signaling to gold member, Uh,
Canada is ours.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Yeah, Canada's are and you can put you can put
this guy in charge, but he's going to preside over
a weak government with the populace at Hatson and Western
Canada is going to have a very interesting have a
very interesting choice in front of them. And are they

(01:53:32):
really as tough as the as the as the defenseman
that they the hockey defenseman that they that they breed
out there, those farm boys out in the hockey league,
Which are they're tough? Motherfuckers? Those kids? Are they that tough?
We're gonna find out they will be welcome here in
States now. But again I've said this, but here's the thing.

(01:53:53):
Mark Carney can declare war against the United States all
he wants. He said this last night and accepted speech.
He said, the old relationship with the United States is over.
We are Canada, we are strong, we are We're gonna
We're gonna build, baby, build with.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
What I've gotta. I got a different take on it.
The original relationship between Canada is back on baby the
French Indian wars.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Right, that's well, that's well, that's the next, the next state,
the next. That's nice that you can say that. What
you're saying now is, oh, we don't have to treat
you like a neighbor. Correct, sorry, we don't have to
treat you as our ally anymore. That's nice. We're now
going to park four tanks on you know, on the
road that connects the Western Canada from from Ottawa and

(01:54:36):
in the war will be over in a week, and
what are you gonna do? Bomb family? Like excuse me
make the South Park reference, But that's it, that's what
that's what they.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Want to We're going to actually roll three tanks into
the city of London. And you're done, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Like that's this, This is well, and this is so
this is I've been meaning to ask you to bring
this up. Then, higher conversation, which is flashback to Trump's
first term when he met with Queen Elizabeth yep, yep,
and how and the immense amount of of of of

(01:55:12):
opposition that was that was that meant that that was
surrounded that meeting, like everybody was getting the vapors, and
they were all like that this man can't meet with
the queen and bubble, this is not possible. And I'm like,
and what do you what do you think this is about? Folks?
And I and I and I didn't understand it at

(01:55:32):
the time, right, I thought, I you know, I thought
I did. I just like, there's something going on here,
and I really do believe that Elizabeth. In hindsight, now
I think it's pretty obvious that Elizabeth was trying to
get Britain or get the re established English, the English civilization,

(01:55:55):
sovereign England, right, and and Trump was her mechanism by
which to do that. I agree. And you know, I
go back to what I call the coup against the
Lizes where she dies in the same week that Liz
Trusts is ousted, and Richie Sunak has put in place
that all happened in a week. And it's easy to

(01:56:15):
cover that because Liz was, you know, Queen Elizabeth was
ninety nine years old. But the reason why, you know,
she was not going to die, so she didn't want
Charles to be king.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
So what what well, Holace, but give me a second,
Give me a second, because Dutch East India company h India,
where's sunk from?

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
What's the ship about the Indo pack conflicts?

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Right, so people were like I was in the British crowd.
It's like no, no, no, that's this hostile takeover happened to
sixteen eighty eight. India fell under the Dutch. Yes, ostensibly
the British, but actually the right the continental power system,
financial system, and they can stir up all kinds of problems.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
Yes, all kinds of problems.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Right. That's and I'm gonna tell you right now, I
do not like this Ramaswami guy here in the US.
There's something my former Intel senses are just this guy
is bad news. We need to deal with this. There's
a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
That, right, Well, that's why he's been and he's been
so understand. I've been on this for a while now,
saying what is it with having Indians be be moved
into all of these positions of power CEO of Microsoft,
CEO of this company, CEO of that company, mayor band

(01:57:46):
and mayor you know, prime ministerervant here here there and
everywhere all over. Like I was speaking to a friend
of mine the other day, He's like eighty I was
just speaking to Sean Newman, eighty five percent of Canadian
trucking companies are owned by Indians.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Oh, by the way, Dutch East India Company took a hit,
a hostel take.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
That's why JD Dance going and that's why JD Dance
going to India was so important. And then Modi cutting
a deal, and that's why India is always like wavering
back and forth and everything else. Anytime and India gets out,
looks like they're going to get out from underneath. There's
either piece is going to break out between India and
China over the border or whatever. Every time India makes

(01:58:31):
it tries to make a move out from underneath the system,
Pakistan India blows up or something blows up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Every massive company and it's financial institutions. And these do
go back to Venice. I'm not This is no exaggeration
because that's when the Venetian bankers went. I know, but
these are European relationships. The Dutch East Indian Company was
India Company was found in sixteen oh two, so four
hundred and twenty three years ago. All right, I think

(01:59:03):
my mass right, m h uh. Think of the web
of relationships exactly, and how those and those go back
generations upon generations.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
I was an Intel guy, Advance force operation kind of guy.
We spend immense amounts of time and energy and resources
trying to build these kinds of human networks, these relationship networks,
these relationships between banks and companies. Like, as you know,
in the banking world, it's pretty hard actually to do
a banking transaction between two entities and two different parts

(01:59:40):
of the world if you're dealing with smaller you know,
not the major banks, right, which is where most of
the banking in these parts of the world happens. The bank,
you'd have to have a relationship with that bank. You
have to be introduced in the right way by the
right person, et cetera. Well for the Dutch East Indies
company and the Venetians before, which were tra before and

(02:00:01):
doing finance and all that before, who created this whole
concept and idea. The banks, those relationships are already there.
They could move all kinds of moneies or messages. They
don't have to move moneies, they could just move messages
or or there's these things called historic accounts. I don't
know if people familiar with these, but these are old accounts.
Some of them are very large, and they sit in

(02:00:24):
certain banks around the world. Componently, you pieces here and
pieces there, et cetera. And there's these very complex, arcane
procedural structures with which to use some of the proceeds. Now,
you can't use any of the principle of these accounts,
but there's a and there's limitations depending on the charters.
But although that's a cover for this massive hidden banking

(02:00:48):
system that's hundreds of years old around the world, that
is less about banking and way more about relationships and
the ability to pass messages and the ability to coordinate
and the ability to bank, you know, provide instructions and
and cutouts and law firms and you know, all this
complex infrastructure is ludicrously expensive. It's all in place for

(02:01:10):
three four hundred years. I think we're finally standing up
to it, and I agree with you. Back to her majesty,
who's hanging on my wall over here right, Not her majesty,
I'm not a cob like that, but a photo of
her Majesty. I just want to clarify that.

Speaker 5 (02:01:27):
Case's people out there, Yeah exactly, Uh, where is Trump's
mother from Scotland?

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
Scotland? Trump, I think and I believe this personally, and
I actually I actually think that his Majesty the King
is playing the tragic character very well because he is
a tragic character. I don't think he's long for the
world very much. You mentioned the fingers. That's that's kidney.

(02:02:04):
So he's had He's got kidney failure pretty bad. You
can see it in the fingers, the tone, et cetera.
I suspect he's already being dialysis regularly, probably has for
several years.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
Well, he's got and supposedly hands cancer, so you can
be on pregn his own and everything else exactly is
not working a hundred different reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
But cancer is the one we use because we don't
like to talk about kidney because you can go, you know,
with kidney stuff, you can go any day. Cancer because they, ah,
we're dragging it, you know what I mean. I think
he's doing his part, playing his part as the tragic,
hated Charles. Right, it's always a Charles. It's then the
other thing, Why did he keep king Charles? The third

(02:02:46):
Charles is a cursed name in English royalty?

Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
Right, the first Charles lost.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
His fucking head. Sure, the second Charles was thrown basically
dethroned for being a useless, drunk womanizer and replaced. He
had no power. He was also a try So why
did he keep the name Charles? He could have used George.
It's not like he doesn't have seven fucking names in
his name that he could have picked one of the
good ones, right, Okay, So I think he's playing a

(02:03:13):
role in care. I think I believe that the old
American families who are all English, they all consider themselves English,
just like the founding fathers of this country, and some
of the few remaining English families said enough is enough.
It's time to get these fucking Dutch out of our
country and get rid of this control and break all

(02:03:33):
of this before it takes, you know, before they force
us into the collapse phase of the kill chain. And
I think that Her Majesty handed just like happened between
Rome and Constantinople eighteen hundred years ago, well seventeen hundred
years ago plus. I think that the torch was passed

(02:03:59):
from of the English civilization, was formerly passed in probably
a knighting of Trump from Her Majesty.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
If you know it's it, it makes some I'm not,
you know, I I don't know there's mom enough to
say one way or the other. I find it fascinating.
And I also know that Trump has already begun the
process of of working with William. And why and why
was Kate? Why was Kate Middleton out of out of

(02:04:34):
out of the probably eye for as long as she was? Why?
You know this is very These things are very important.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
And she's from a very old family. Give me a second,
not a noble family, but a very old, prominent family.
The Middleton's the funeral, the Pope's funeral.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Mm hm, who.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Wore black and who wore white? I mean blue? Trump
wasn't the only blue as Roy Highness Prince William also
wore blue. I'd almost guarantee you if you took a
closer look at that, it was the sea powers, the
British maritime powers, who were wearing blue, and it was
the continentals who were wearing black. And it was a subtle,

(02:05:18):
but not so subtle signal from the maritime powers. We're
done fucking playing your game. You told us all to
wear black suits. Fuck you. We respect the Pope and
the power of the Pope, and and you know exactly,
but fuck you. We are maritime power. We are not
beholding to you continentals ever. Again. We are done. We

(02:05:40):
are out, and we are taking control of the geographic,
geological space and resources necessary. You all can do whatever
the hell you're going to do inside. We're done defending you.
We're done bankrupting or bank rolling you. We're done rebuilding
your cities. If you fuck each other now this time,
we're not coming to your fence. We're just walling you off.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
That's right, That would be the preferred outcome for all
of humanity. The Chinese want the Russians want it, We
want it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
The.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Africans want it. Everybody wants it. Yes, well, I mean
this is, you know, interesting little note this morning. And
my my, my, my Baker street of regulars that are
my patriots noted this one that Putin invited the the
current leader of Brakina Fasso to the May ninth victory

(02:06:33):
in europe Day celebration and not Manuel Macron. I have
another thing and again an English uh an English uh.
You know friend of mine, Twitter made of money I
chat with all the time, and in private private message,

(02:06:56):
He's like, do you not think it's a little weird
that there's no discussion or no preparation for the eightieth
anniversary of Victory of Europe Day by the Europeans.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
Meanwhile, the Russians are making a big deal out of it, right,
And I'm like, there's a reason for that, because at
this moment in time, these people do not want to
remind their populace. Yes, that they had to be saved
by the Americans and the Russians and the last time
they went to war.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
I actually have an agreement what you're saying, but one
more piece from the very same people who are doing
it to them again.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Yes, exactly, by this time, they can't play that nostalgia card.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
No, this time, the Europeans have to deal with their
own leadership. This time, the Europeans have to remove their
own parasites. Yes, we cannot do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
Yes we we're happy to help and we're happy to
help them do it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
This is that, this is the key that that this
is the thing that I you know, and I'm and
I I I interact with inter with with Europeans who
cannot get past this. Understand you know this this all
the time. And they yell at me on Twitter and
they yell at me the hell they hell they pay
my they pay my bills, and they yellop about it,
and they they just don't see they just don't see

(02:08:17):
it or they don't want to see it. I'm like,
it's so very obvious, but you have to want it yourself.
And what you're arguing for me, what you're saying to
me is you cannot you can't see a way out
of this in any way, and so you'd rather wallow
in your own learn't helplessness and then blame Trump for

(02:08:39):
not liberating you. And it's fascinatriarch.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
Unhealthy matriarchies. There are families in Europe that are you know,
the House of Garceenda house at eleanor setter seven, eight
hundred years, nine hundred years unbroken on the female line.
Male lines rarely go beyond two hundred and three hundred
years rarely, and rarely do they even get beyond one
hundred and twenty five hundred and seventy five statistically. But

(02:09:06):
there are very old matrilinealnes that really own all the
assets and control everything in Europe if you see and
if you see it in that content, and these are
the old royal houses and noble houses and banking houses.
Because they all intermarriate, et cetera. What is how It's
the female mind, It's the estrogen. And I'm not picking
on women, right, but men and women are different, and

(02:09:28):
the left hemisphere dominated women are very different than right
hemisphere dominated men, and nature designed us this way, so
we'd be a good compliment. But Europe is very estrogen based,
even in its you know, look at fucking Macron and
look at the cure Starmer, right, look at the female
hips on Starmer. I mean talk about estrogen, right, right?

(02:09:51):
So what it is is this this estrogen based mind
that wants the testosterone based mine to pay for everything
and solve all of its problems.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
And the man and the and the and the husband
in this case, right, the man in this case is
I can't do this anymore, right, So I I have
to divorce you, mm hm. And I know you're gonna
throw everything you can at me to prevent me from that.
And I know that I know I have to stand
resolute and that's not gonna work. And I know that

(02:10:24):
the kids are gonna get caught up in all of that,
in all of this, and I know the system is
on you know your side, woman, The whole regime, the
whole system, et cetera. Go ahead, throw everything you got
at me. I have to stand firm. I have to
stand strong. I have to stand resolute. I cannot let
you burn or destroy any more assets. I can't let
you sacrifice our fucking children and useless fights or total

(02:10:47):
bullshit anymore. I can't because I love the family. I
love humanity. Fuck this transhumanist bullshit, fuck the Singularity, well,
fuck all of that shit. These kids, this is my family.
And I will go ahead, stand and throw, and I
will harden myself, and I'll get the right attorneys and
right banks and right financial structures and right trust accounts
and and I know I'm gonna get hit this this,

(02:11:09):
this and this way, but I have to. I have
to divorce your fucking ass. That's right for the children.
And some of our children are gonna get lost in
this because you're gonna fucking go nuclear, because that's what
you are, you crazy fucking bitch. That's fucking Europe right now.

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
No, I know that's that is exactly how they're at.
They're acting like this is this is you know, he'll
have no if you're like a woman scorned and here
we are like, and it's he'll have he'll.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
Have no fury like a woman served papers.

Speaker 1 (02:11:41):
Well, I'm gonna I think we and I and I
and I agree with you. This is why I've been
I think that the next hundred days of Trump's uh
presidency is going to be are going to be the
most anxerous because by the time we get into the
fall of this year, I I think, if they haven't,
you know, deposed him or anything else, like, it's over and.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
They have to unleash hell in our country. Yes, and
they're going so using the divorce cut, you know, the
divorce analogy. She has to unleash hell in my own
in the man's house, in his own family, his own network,
as his own house. She has to or she has
no chance.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Yep, yep. That is where we are. I'm gonna. I
think that's a good way. I think that's a good
place to end. Actually, this has gone longer than I
normally know, But this has been a fascinating conversation. I've
really enjoyed every bit of it. And I've really enjoyed, like,
you know, really bringing out as much as I love
it when I gets somebody on the other side of
the microphone, who is as riled up about this stuff

(02:12:44):
as I am. It's I'm usually the one like dropping
bombs left and right and losing my mind. And I'll
be honest with you, and I enjoyed every moment of it.
So we'll definitely do this again at some point when
we get a chance to maybe update where we think
we are in the process of the kill chain, and
then we'll we'll do it again. So thank you, my friend.
It was fun. And give everybody a quick plug on

(02:13:07):
the way out the door for where where they can
find you, and then let's we'll end the podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Yeah, it's been been great, Tom, been a long time coming. Uh.
Em Berlin Game at Twitter. I have Berlin Game dot
substack dot com which I put things on I'm and
most of it's free. I don't I don't think I've
ever put anything on there for a cost. Uh. And
I'm doing a serialized novel that really goes into a
lot of this stuff in the old way, you know,

(02:13:32):
a chapter every couple of weeks or so, so people
can really dive into this the history and what's happening
now and how and all that and murder and killing
and banking and all that shit, so I haven't put
any sex in it yet. I probably won't, but you
know we're Scottish. We like to keep that ship to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
Air enough, whereas we Italian as well. It's like it's
everywhere we can help ourselves. Hell with that said on
DFL twenty on Twitter. Can follow us on patroon and patroons,
Mescal guns and guns dot com. We're out you guys,
do well. You take care of We'll talk soon. Keep
your sick on the eyes

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
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