Episode #218 -- Dexter White and Our Metastasizing Media Cancer

Dexter White returns to the podcast to discuss the ramifications of the Biden cancer reveal and the implications for it of the future of the Democratic Party.

Show Notes:
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Megyn Kelly Jake Tapper Interview

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to the Gold, Goats and Guns Podcast
for May twenty second, twenty twenty five. My name is
Tom Luongo. We have a lot to talk about. It's
been a little while episode to eighteen I have with
the with me the great pleasure of having Dexter White
back on the podcast. We're going to discuss a lot
of interesting developments in domestic politics. Dexter, how are you.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm good. You know, there's nothing going on we're talking about.
It's just I'm just here harvesting tumbleweeds in South Florida,
which we have so many of.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Whould you have plenty of down there?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
With the nice sea breeze, you know, blows the sea
grass tumbleweeds across the highway and I chase them.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's fun Yeah, it's funny. You know. I've just spent
most of the time since I got back from Calgary.
It was like picking weeds in my yard.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
And uh yeah, I meaning to talk about I was so.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thank you all for tuning in, folks. So seriously, I
don't know about you, I but I just got back.
You know, we we we spent a little bit of
time up in Calgary with Sean Newman, and the crew
in Alberta, which was very interesting. And uh, I spent
a little extra time up there to get some R
and R and some time off. And I know that
people are be screaming at me to like do something.

(01:33):
It's like the little it's like the little stick figure thing,
Tom do something like I'll get back to it, dudes.
So actually that's something being vacate. That's something I was like, Yeah,
I was. I was like, you know, I was looking
at mountains and driving around and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
But but here's the crux of the problem. You can't
even talk about taking a break without making it like
an active verb process.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know, just like you do like relax.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
What does that mean I have to go do the.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Relaxed kidding My idea of for action was was it
was doom scrolling my Twitter feed and you know, being
a day. Okay, So what else?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Is also known as Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Tuesday exactly every day and that ends in a hy
so speaking of well, today is Thursday morning, So what
is happening on this actual Thursday morning? Because so we
stopped filibuster and beating his Jon Stewart asked, joke into
the ground.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I let me just make sure that Israel hasn't launched
World War three. I did not actually look yet.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, I didn't see it on zero heads this morning.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, No, I mean that was the big thing yesterday
that was allegedly gonna happen. Nothing, nothing that's different than yesterday. Yeah,
it was also just thanks to all the people in
Calgary who came out to the member meet up. It
was great meeting you all in person, and thanks to

(02:59):
Sean Newman for just putting on a great conference that
was truly, uh, top notch stuff. So just that I
want to say that.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So right now we're in the midst of the full
frame denial of Biden's obvious and long time obvious mental decline,
and then we have the recent dropping of the totally
believable spontaneous stage five cancer slash stage four. But we're

(03:35):
trying to teach people to glease and scale for some reason. Yeah,
it's it's totally ridiculous, That's all I got. Uh, what
are your what's your take on how believable this all is?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Uh? Zero? Okay, I'm known for saying ei there are
a very few zero probability events in this life, but
this is one of them that that approaches at least
zero percent asymptotically. Look, you know, I don't know much
about prostate cancer, but I do know that, you know,

(04:12):
man of Biden's age should have been throwing elevated PSA
levels a while ago, should have been you know, I
don't know much about this stuff, but I know that
this is clearly something that they knew about. And I
would argue, and I think, you know, you and I've
talked about this a little bit, you would argue that
they knew about that there was something wrong with him

(04:34):
when they ran him in twenty twenty. And I think
that maybe that maybe the thing we want to we
want where we want to start with this, Like, let's
look at the timeline right of the progression of this, right,
I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Will, I will say this. I've I've read up a
little more on so there really is a stage zero
in cancer. So when people say it's you know, stage
four is the fifth stage, but it's ridiculous anyway, But
on a lot of pathology, like it's this, this grade
nine basically means half the cells are like I don't

(05:09):
remember how the grading works, but like you add up
like how many fours and fives you have to get
and this is a different scale. But the bottom line
is what they've announced is you can only get one
worse thing than what they announced, which would be Grade ten.
But it's meaninglessly worse. It's just it's just how many

(05:30):
of the breakout metastasized cells are, you know, versus the
ones that are direct trailing behind. Anyway, the idea that
the President of the United States, who we believe has
some decent healthcare, would not have had an elevated PSA

(05:51):
at the very least. Now, I was struggling to remember
if he'd ever had a biopsy, a prostate biopsy. I
feel like I remember it. I mean, I don't know
if I'm confusing like Lloyd Austin or whatever, because he
had a radical prostotectomy. I believe whatever it's It's the

(06:15):
only thing I'll say in Biden's defense is that, yeah,
some late stage cancers can be misjudged on biopsy and slightly,
you know, but that's and we're talking to want less
than one percent, not probability, but just less than one

(06:37):
percent of the cases are going to meet that description.
Like ninety nine out of one hundred are gonna at
least be leaving breadcrumbs with elevated PSAs and not like
PSAs of four, like this guy would have a PSA
in like the thirties, fifties, hundreds. You know, it's not
it's unambiguously a problem and every urologist is going to

(06:57):
want to stick a needle in it. So whatever they did,
you know, here's a question, like what do you and
I and the average person believe about the White House Doctor.
I don't know what I believe today, but I can
tell you what I believe like two weeks ago, which
is like they're in touch with somebody in the military,

(07:19):
like because every time the president has a procedure gets sick,
they send him over to a military hospital, right technically
because it's at well to read medical centers where they
they always send the president. So I had some fantasy,
I guess of like oh, there's a team and blah

(07:40):
blah blah. But when you think back to like the
hippie do o long haired dude that Trump trouted out
like to be like, oh he's somebody's the healthiest president ever,
you start to realize there's there's some latitude here. And
like maybe the White House physician really is just answering
to the president and that's what we're looking at. I mean,

(08:03):
that's the only explanation is that they clearly had some
information related to prostate cancer, and I would bet there
was some form of treatment and that they've been sitting
on this frankly. And you know, I apologize for being
cynical if you're new to the show, but to me,

(08:24):
the cancer was their ace in the hole, you know.
And I can talk a little bit about why I
think that. Sure, I think I think it blew up
on them in that The most charitable I can be
is that, excuse me, the ace in the hole, like
they didn't think he had bone Metz probably probably. I

(08:45):
mean a lot of people will tell you, oh, prostate
cancer is so manageable and blah blah blah, and it is,
you know, stage two, stage four, when when it's metastasized
all over the body is not manageable, right, it's not
even treated except with palliative care.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah. You and I I
just just remind myself back when you were thinking about it,
I'm like, you know, how does how do men and
to stay and age like die of prostate cancer. In
this you know, it's like we think back to Frank Zappa, right,

(09:22):
just like this first thing that pops into my head,
how did you know? Why did Frank have? Did I
have prostate cancer? Because he didn't catch it until you was.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Lit diagnosis for Frank. I mean that was you know,
And that's the way this happens normally, is like somebody
shows up at the VA who hasn't been seeing a
doctor in ten years and he's got stage three prostate
cancer and they buiopsie it and they're like, oh fuck,
and then you know it can be fast growing in
the end. So it's not it's not implausible that they

(09:52):
thought they had a stage two prostate cancer and they
just were wrong like a year ago, and then it
got away from him. That's lausible, but like I said before,
pretty low probability and and listen, it just it just
contradicts with Look, what I admit is an assumption is
that the president gets really good healthcare and like annoyingly good,
like too many tests. That that's my assumption, right, Like

(10:17):
that's what I would think that the president's like healthcare experience.
And maybe that's untrue, especially because we do know now
that the president, the president Biden was surrounded by a
coterie of family members who were basically concealing his mental decline.
And since that was the ultimate mission, maybe this fell
through the cracks, or maybe it was their ace in

(10:38):
the hole. And I'll explain that a little later.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Sure, No, I think the I think I think that's
fair right that you know, you have a situation with
with him where I and I. By the way, I
don't want to let go the point that of the
irony that they told that they made such a big
deal about Trump's health during campaign and that back in

(11:02):
twenty twenty and that Biden would release all of his
health records, would be one hundred percent transparent with us,
and blah blah blah blah blah, and Rachel Matdow Adam's apple,
you know, quivered about this and everybody was it was insane,
And now we have this.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
There are two meta narrative slash goals on the left
right now. The first is selling us this lie that
they were as shocked as we were when his debate
performance occurred. He's like, oh my god, this is just
the for pride, Like okay, and then the other thing
is teeing up this sudden come to Jesus level of

(11:39):
concern about the president's mental health so that they can
pull this shit on Trump, like they're going to want
to pass a law that says the president has to
go to a Democrat neurologist every week and get a
check off and if not, he's immediately like thrown out
of office. And they're gonna be like, see they're blocking
what they say they want. Like that's like prepare yourself, folks,

(12:00):
because that's what's coming like that, like their absurdity knows
no bounds, like be prepared. So let me just you know,
I would say a lot of the current weeks chum

(12:23):
in the water kind of came out from Jake Tapper's
book Original Sin, and he like that book really pissed
off the left because Tapper, you know, you know, sort
of unbelievably so, but he basically I listened to the

(12:45):
Megan Kelly interview yesterday and it was brutal, like like
she definitely raamed him, but she had on both him
and Alex Thompson of Axios is the co author. Jake
is the lead, and Alex gets the end. So they
wrote it together, and and Thompson had kind of an
idea for this for for a Biden book, and then

(13:07):
he got it got withdrawn, and so he was sitting
on a bunch of notes. Tapper was sitting on a
bunch of notes. They talked, and then they realized that
after the election and a lot of people who weren't
willing to talk either, not even on the record for
direct quote, but like like they got a lot of
people to talk to them for this book. So they

(13:29):
realized that a book, and they have a book so great.
This book's made the left, you know, enraged because it
now lays bare that you know, there was a cover up, frankly,
and that has a lot of problematic implications for where
we are now. I've said here on this podcast and

(13:50):
in print before for a while, you know that Biden
didn't have the mental capacity to be president, and there
was clearly, you know, a cabal of people running our
country that were unelected. I stand by that assertion. I'll
read you something I wrote in July of twenty twenty one.

(14:15):
Quote back at the Biden White House, the dance goes
on as the senile ice cream man is sent out
to botch his lines. For as long as the air
acept will allow, his administration will be pulling the strings
in the background. I guess we should be thankful that
they only feel embolden enough to pull back the curtain
and not fully open the raincoat. So for those of

(14:38):
you that don't speak sarcasm, I'll walk you through air
accept is a drug that they give to people with
Alzheimer's and pulling back the curtains of reference to the
Wizard of Oz and opening the raincoat is something you know,
I hope is self explanatory. But the idea is that

(14:58):
they've been mocking us for all long time with this,
and you know when they had Jensaki and all the
other people in the administration just rubbing our faces in
this stuff, you know, this humiliation ritual of pretending we
don't see the fact that the president is you know,

(15:19):
diminished capacity. I mean, it's just the emperor's new clothes.
It's a variety of the Soviet story where they say, oh,
you know, they lie, we know they lie. They know
we know they lie, and yet they continue to lie, right,
And that is something that needs to be called out.

(15:39):
And every single person who was in the administration, and
I'm not willing to say, oh yo, well, from twenty
three it became obvious. No, no, no, it was obvious
early on, It was obvious before he was elected. It
was obvious when they didn't let him campaign and blamed
it on COVID while they were simultaneously exaggerating COVID so

(16:00):
that they could get lockdowns, so that they could use
absentee ballots. So Biden, who is the most popular president
in American history that resonates with so many people, got
eighty million votes. You know something that that neither Trump
nor his opponent got in this election.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
You know, you know, like hello, right right, So you
want us to believe, you literally want us to believe
the most patent bullshit that you have ever placed in
front of us. And the Biden administration, or the Biden Hunt,
as I like to call it, was a four year
struggle session, that's all it was. And you're going to

(16:43):
eat this and you're gonna like it, and you're this
is your shit sandwich, and this is your rational daily
ration of shit and you get to and you get
to eat it, and that's it. And if you don't
like it, well, don't eat like well you know, a
lot of Americans are obese, so maybe they should do
a three day fastive political bullshit and then you know,
go on with their life. I'll just continue that metaphor

(17:04):
for as long as I can, by the way, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah. I was just you know, back to sort of
the Megan Kelly interview with Tapper and Thompson. Another thing
that I was very disturbed by was the reporting on
the cabinet meetings, and without citation by name, Tapper claims

(17:29):
to have spoken to four cabinet secretaries for this book
on the record, but not for attribution. So four members
of the cabinet sat down with Jake Tapper and basically
said the president was one shielded from them in general,
Like it was very low contact, Like this administration was

(17:50):
like no other administration. Like when a cabinet member doesn't
see the president for a year, that is highly abnormal
because the two reasons there's no general cabinet meetings in
the Biden administration, like and when they happen, they're these
scripted events with Jill Biden, doctor Jill present and basically presiding,

(18:11):
and Hunter, a guy with no security clearances, you know,
not the cabinet meetings are like classified things. I mean,
we let the press into some of them, but obviously
there's cabinet meetings where we don't let the press in
and they discuss things that you know, are probably classified
or at least are not public information. And apparently both

(18:32):
Jill Biden and Hunter were at these meetings, you know,
which is ridiculous. But more to the point, we have
four cabinet members who did not do their duty under
the twenty fifth Amendment. Now that doesn't carry a penalty
per se, because there's no penalty in the twenty fifth
Amendment for them not taking it on. But one, I mean,

(18:56):
Megan Kelly implies that if one of these four runs
for US in the future, that Tapper needs to call
them out in public. And she got that on the record,
which I thought was very creative of her, because it
is true that, you know, if somebody allowed a you know,
let's just say, a non qualified person to play the

(19:17):
role of placeholder president while non elected people decided what
the nation's business was, that person too should be disqualified
from being president because that is frankly as fundamental a
violation of the oath of office as you can have
other than being a true you know, trader working with
our enemies. But you know, when you want to uphold

(19:38):
the constitution and then you allow I mean the oath,
by the way, for cabinet secretaries is very similar. You know,
they're also sworn to uphold the constitution. And I'm sorry,
like allowing a senile man to be a placeholder president
while non elected people do our nation's business, that is
not upholding the constitution full stop. So I mean these

(20:03):
are things that we presumed for many years. Like like
I wrote what I quoted before in twenty twenty one,
but like that was just where I first used the
phrase senile ice cream man in print. That's all that was.
I just searched my hard drive for that phrase. And Okay,
that's the oldest issue. But it's not like we weren't

(20:23):
talking about it before the election, and it's not because
we're such super geniuses. Like it's everybody saw this, and
now we're being told, oh, you didn't see that. It
was the debate. It's a big surprise, and it's like,
you know, this is not this can't be tolerated. I
mean I took I took some notes here on on

(20:46):
like the full arc of Biden's you know, presidency and
vice presidency. Like I'd like to remind everybody that when
Obama picked Biden to be vice president, excuse me, there
were a great number of people who were stupefied by
it because Biden was a fucking idiot and this was

(21:06):
when he was a mentally competent idiot. Biden has said
dumb shit his whole life. Now maybe that's because he
had had his head opened a couple of times in
the seventies for two brain surgeries. But you know, frankly,
if you listen to him, I mean, he's been in
office a long time, and uh, if you listen to

(21:27):
him and at any time, he's never been smart. And
you know, Obama picked him because he was a white
guy who was, you know, an establishment Democrat to say
the least. Was a little on the left, you know
side of the Democrats for sure, but was was pretty

(21:48):
you know, he was in this left centrist channel and
he had some some white appeal, I guess. But more
to the point, he was not part of any of
the factions that Obama knew he was going to be fighting.
Biden wasn't a Clintonista, you know, he wasn't one of
those people. And and so there he goes. And then
basically Obama during both of Obama's terms, I mean, let's

(22:11):
let's be serious, Biden was minimized. He was stuck over
there in the Naval observatory, swimming naked and sexually harassing
a Secret Service personnel as far as we have been told, right,
and then you know, historically, when a two term president,
uh you know, is finishing up the vice president of

(22:32):
the two terms, usually that's the way it is runs
for president, right, that's the standard model. Unfortunately, bo Biden
died and as far as everybody you know, and this
is believable, like like Joe Biden was really torn up
over this to the point where he couldn't he couldn't

(22:53):
handle running for president. And you know, Obama supported that
decision as an he like, buddy would. I mean, it's like, okay,
we get it. You're not ready. You can't do it.
And and that's even assuming Obama thought Biden had the
chops to be president, which on many occasions he said
he did not. Right, the famous quote that people might

(23:13):
remember is never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.
I'm going to leave out the whole Hillary debacle because
you know, we all know what happened there. It is
an interesting question though, is how much was Hillary sucked
into a vacuum and were there other things? Because I
don't know, I'm going to my grave assuming that Obama's

(23:36):
first choice was not having Hillary run after his terms, Yeah,
that's that's fair, and that's a conversation for another time.
But like, like, I'm intractable on that one. However, you know,
we get Biden twenty twenty. Obviously we have the first
Trump term boom, but then we get Biden twenty twenty,

(23:59):
the phoenix from their from the ashes. And yet once
they pull all the bullshit they pull, who's in his
inner circle they needed done? Susan Rice, valjar and Valerie Jarrett. Sorry,
And so Obama's got his hands in this term a lot.
And when I think about the breakdown mid campaign, Okay,

(24:26):
so the debate is the wrench in the works, right,
Like they think they can pull off this Emperor's new
clothes thing because there's a bunch of little boys going.
I could see the Emperor's pep, but no one's listening
to them, right, but everyone can see. But whatever, So
it's all they're gonna pull it right, and then the
debate happens and he shits the bed so bad that
it's like, all right, fuck, we can't do this. And

(24:49):
it still takes Colooney a month to write that op
ed right, Actually, no, no, no, it was a month
since the fundraiser where allegedly Biden didn't even recognize who
George Clooney was, even though he's going to a fundraiser
hosted by George Clooney and he had worked with George
Clooney many, many times, and he just was like vacant.

(25:11):
And so Clooney writes the the op ed, which he
should have written the day after that fundraiser. He writes it, uh,
you know, a couple of days after the debate. Obama
was also that that fundraiser, and in my view, Clooney's
acting as Obama's lieutenant here, and they probably chewed the

(25:33):
fat for the you know, for the weeks after the fundraiser,
and then once the debate happened, Obama gave the order
and said, all right, do this because like George Clooney
is not an important person in US politics. I don't
give a fuck if his wife is, you know, a
human rights actist. It's just it's George Clooney, like he's
Tequila bro. And the idea that The New York Times

(25:56):
is even going to publish an op ed from him,
you know, without anyone else saying, hey, print this, I e.
Obama is not really that believable. Now, we could argue that,
and there's plenty of people who look, of course they
would print it, but like the New York Times editorial
board doesn't print political you know, political stuff from rando actors, right,

(26:25):
not just not the normal course of events. So if
it happens, you better believe that more than one person
called up someone whose last name is Sulzberger, and then
the meeting was had, and they all proof reddit and
then here we are because and I will now posit
my ace in the whole theory. Everybody knew Biden was

(26:48):
mentally deficient. He was getting worse. He wasn't of sound
mind enough to be president when he was elected, But
he wasn't the shit show that he had become in
twenty three and two twenty four, when they literally had
to hide him from his own cabinet. Alzheimer's is a
progressive disease. Although I've said many times. My theory is

(27:10):
that he has vascular dementia but also a progressive good disease.
I think that they were literally in twenty four they
got an indication that the prostate cancer was not trivial,

(27:32):
and they thought of it as the ace in the hole,
and they at this point I'm talking about is for
whatever reason Jill Hunter at all, Hunter wanted his pardon.
He did not want his dad to step down. He
wanted his dad to carry Kamala over the line as
VP and then last as long as possible and after

(27:52):
dragging the unelectable one across the finish line, turn it
over or more likely worse her out, select a new
VP by reverse auction with the DNC, and do what
the bidens do best, which is grift. And that's my theory.
And that and that, you know, the debate interceded. Kamala

(28:13):
won the power struggle. And how do you think she
did that after being treated, you know, very poorly. I
think it's very simple. She went into the office and said, listen, Hunter,
you junkie. Fuck, I'm the candidate where I spill everything
right fucking now, That's what I think happened. That's my
theory and that you know, the the ace and the
hole with the cancer was going to be get him

(28:35):
elected and then.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh my god, the president of brought the cancer blah blah.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Blah, and they fucked it up because in the midst
of managing all this stuff, they're underqualified. And I'm not
even saying medically underqualified, but like, like a GP is
not qualified to be every specialist, right, the GP has
got to be working with specialists, And frankly, I've heard
enough that seems true that I think five year ologists

(29:03):
would have a lot to argue about with this case,
you know, in the absence of an actual multiple biopsies,
because you know, biopsies can miss the target and you
can and very very often, especially with prostate cancer, like
people wind up having a higher grade than you think,
and you know, wherever the needle passes or the cells

(29:24):
you get and it's just it's just not that, you know,
it's not a one and done. So anyway, I think
that you know, they were probably thinking, and we're probably
told by the doctor that oh, well, prostate cancer is
very manageable, and they were thinking, well, if his mental
health decline is the point where this this thing isn't

(29:46):
just even workable anymore. We'll take them, you know, we'll
bow out with the prostate cancer excuse, will never fest
to the mental decline. We'll keep bullshitting everybody. But to me,
they didn't want to turn it over to Kamala. And
if they didn't want to turn it over to her,
I think that they were going to force her out
as VP somehow and then get their ultimate payday. And

(30:08):
in the end, all Hunter got was a pardon. The
problem is now, I think it's challengeable that when a president,
when you got four cabinet secretaries, I think, frankly, you
can break the journalistic wall. You can force Tapper to testify.
You can then show that the fucking presidency was usurped.
Those pardons aren't valid. They weren't signed by the president.

(30:32):
They were signed by an auto pen run by a
cabal of the president's family. That seems pie in the sky,
But look here we are, man.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I don't think that's why in this guy at all.
As a matter of fact, Yeah, I know what I'm
going to tell you right now is like you and
I talking about this, and I think it was very
obvious and I don't think anybody really missed this, but
you have the release of partial the partial release of
the Michael hartapes right interview that hits last week, and
then we have and yeah, which is immense right, which

(31:04):
sets was just setting all this up. I'm looking at
it like, Okay, we've got two factions. We got the
people who want to undo the Biden presidency and are
setting are making the case in the public square to
undo literally the entire thing and the auto pen. This
is why Trump is banging on about the auto pen
and then the her tapes and and an and their

(31:25):
only and their only recourse at that point is Okay,
let's try and do the let's try and do the
let's elicit sympathy for Joe because he's got prostate cancer
and he was such a good servant to the United States.
And this is the thing that's really interesting, and you
know is the following because I you know, you and
I talked about it the minute all this stuff started
happening over last weekend, and you brought up the point like, dude,

(31:49):
it's worse than this, It's worse than what even you think,
and which is I think it's all you know, clearly
designed to to just to steal time in the overturn windows.
And it's it's not it's far far worse than that,
because they've just now comped to something even worse than

(32:11):
even worse than they were hiding his you know, his
non complishment, this status. They were hiding that he had
prostay cancer and that he was should have stepped down,
and they tried to run him again, and they denied
the d n C the ability to even have fucking primaries,
Right right, I mean, let's let's let's let's really think

(32:31):
about all of this and and what this really fucking means.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, well, here's the thing. Being charitable in my previous
little exposition was was that the prosta cancer staging was misjudged. Right,
that was being charitable there. Now it's just just like
onto what you just said, just assumed that that they
knew exactly what he had, Like, they had a biopsy,
they got accurate, you know, relatively accurate results, and then

(32:59):
they did this anyway that shows a level of venality,
you know that that really kind of is better suited
to what my conclusion was was that the Biden family
was keeping Biden in office because they wanted to auction
off the vice presidency once they realized there was no
way in hell they could sustain him through a second term.
They were arrogant enough to think they could win the election,

(33:19):
which they were going to lose anyway. But now they
can tell the story you know that, oh, well, only
Biden could have ever beat a Trump. And they literally
they're out there, they trotted Biden out. I don't know
if he went on the view, but somebody went on
the view, like like Biden has had media appearances, you know,
post election and like in the last two weeks, so

(33:43):
I know, like this is a But my point is
just like I'm just kind of saying, like what you're
saying is even more I think, probably even more likely
than the charitable case I was laying out. But I
do I do think they were going to auction off
the vice president's spot because that keeps them in control
over who becomes president. And I think they just didn't

(34:04):
like Kamala anyway, and you know, she was she rested
the candidacy out by I think just a brutal power play,
that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, And that and that makes sense relative to what
we saw from Pelosi and everybody else, because they didn't
want her as President as the candidate because they I
think everybody was. I mean, honestly, if you go back
to July, you know, pre Butler, Pennsylvania and you look
at their how this all went down, it was clear
no one was happy about this because that this was

(34:36):
Kamala Harris as the candidate was not part of the script.
And then we get into Obama Davos, all of this
of what they were actually trying to set up for
the twenty twenty four election, which was clearly they were
intending to steal it again, and they that's why they
had to activate Thomas Crooks and to try and take

(34:59):
out their The goal was to take out Trump at
that point, once it became obvious that they couldn't loaff
air Trump out of existence, that they couldn't get rid
of him in any other way, that then they had
to go to effect the book.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
They tried twice. They tried twice, you know that we
know of They tried twice.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And and I'm in booking Plan R because it's a
doctor Strange love them. This is apocalyptic for you know
the world politically, because if the United States gets usurped
again by a foreign junta, you know, with another four
years of the Democrats just basically covering up everything they've

(35:40):
ever done while they virtue signaled their sagging pits off
about how about what we're supposed to believe? Is this insane?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I don't think that's going to happen. I think, you know,
the media has I think this is the coup de gras.
You know, they can trout out Begala on NPR, which
nobody listens to, and have him say that, oh, I
don't think we've lost any credibility. Oh blah blah blah,
okay whatever forehead. Even Joe Scarborough has been forced to

(36:10):
admit that he's, you know, made a fool of himself.
I mean, but Tapper was very contrite on me. And
you can say, oh, he just wants to sell his book.
I got news for you. Tapper makes plenty of money,
like this book will sell very well. But you know,
like what he's going to make from this book is
not what he makes every year from NBC. Like he's

(36:31):
old enough guy that he's got plenty of money. I
think Tapper wants to restore some credibility that he knows
he's lost, and he seems fairly willing to admit that
so great, But I'm more concerned about the level of
coordination between the media and the Biden White House slash

(36:51):
family hunta because you know what we've witnessed is I mean,
I think it's not just but we now have enough
people with quote confidential sources who are now coming out
and saying on the record that they have them that
we can draw the actual lines of control, Like let's
not forget you know. Like again, I think we should

(37:16):
put the the Megan Kelly interview link in the show
notes because I would encourage people to listen between the lines, like, yes,
she drags him around pretty hard, but the interesting stuff
is in between the lines, like when you start realizing, oh,
this shit's on the record somewhere, and they're going to claim, oh,
it's journalistic this, that the other thing. But he's asserting

(37:37):
a fact that people have spoken with him. And when
that happens, that means all the people who are witnesses
to it now know that some people are talking for attribution,
even if it's anonymous attribution. That changes the entire dynamic
of the rats on the ship. So don't expect this
book to be the last piece, and listen the circular

(37:59):
firing squad, it's going to start. The most interesting takeaway
was that they said that his administration was more liberal.
Would it otherwise been had Biden actually been in charge.
And when you go back, you can trace a lot
of things and then just the all the weird you know,
like tranny and gay stuff that Jensaki was putting out,

(38:21):
you know, like this like this stupid intern with the
you know, long nails, that he was male but gay male,
Like all that stuff was just a little too silly,
Like no one was in charge, right, it'd become like
this just house of fools. And when you think about that,

(38:41):
you're just like, okay, so if the first Lady's chief
of staff. Now, now let's be clear, the first Lady's
not a political position in the United States, the first spouse.
I guess maybe in the future, God forbid. But like,
there's no, you don't have security clearance. You know, you're

(39:02):
not in charge of anything. You host dinners, you perseverate
over China patterns, that's your job. Sorry, Hillary. But but
as Hillary has shown us, you know, like there's a
version of reality where people think the first Lady matters,
and in this White House, she very much mattered because

(39:22):
she was probably the acting president and uh, you know,
so we do have a question of like what were
the policies and who was making them, and was it
you know, was it Obama's hand through like you know,
up until the end, he had a lot of influence.
But then it's pretty clear that what happened is is
the the Anita Brown, sorry, the uh, the Valerie Jarrett's,

(39:48):
the Anita Dun's got a needed done, got sidelined pretty hard.
And thus I think Obama's control over the Biden White
House was sidelined. And what happened at some point, probably
in late twenty three, is that the Biden family took
over in earnest and Ron Klaine was a part. You know,
I don't remember when he stepped out, but there was

(40:11):
clearly a power change and it became more about defending
Biden than doing anything else. But the thing I was
going to say about the media is just like we
learned that parts of the media were talking, sorry, parts
of the government were directing social media companies to censor

(40:34):
people because of their political views even during the Trump administration, right,
like that that was going on while Trump was president.
In departments he couldn't control it was and that was
a legacy of what had happened, you know, when he
was running in twenty sixteen. It was then put in supercharged,

(40:54):
you know, during Biden's administration, and only recently have those
of us in the you know, all alternative media, if
you will, you know, even breathe a sigh of relief,
you know, like this stuff is. You know, the Biden
administration was at war with the First Amendment. How do
we get you know, and these these conspiracies between that

(41:16):
administration and the media we have today and covering up
his mental decline are not trivial, and they're provable. And
to me, there's an anti trust issue here, Like these
guys have put it all on the line. They are
not journalists. I think journalism is important but extinct, and

(41:39):
I hope that we get back to it. But you know,
journalism should live in as a counterweight to tyranny. Right
when we're in this dangerous moment where the mainstream broadcast channels,
I'm saying broadcasts for a reason, have been proven to
be nothing but advocates and defensemen for one political party
in this country, to the point where they their own

(42:00):
eyes don't work anymore, at least if we're going to
believe the testimony of the last week. But the point
is is broadcast licenses are revocable, and even if it's
the cable affiliates of those broadcast licensees doing the dirty work,
there's still an antitrust issue here, and that's because they're
using their broadcast power and the alleged objectivity that they

(42:25):
have right and their goodwill to promote this captured sub
entity i e. Like MSNBC, whereas NBC is the broadcast licensee.
So that's basically an undisclosed perpetual campaign donation, right. That
is a complete violation of the standards for broadcasts. People.

(42:45):
They can't take them off cable. It's a contrare if
they yank CBS, ABC and NBC's terrestrial broadcast licenses because
of what they have done, that is provable. Tell me
what the value of MSNBC is, you know, as an
independent entity, I get news for you. It's like, you know,

(43:06):
it's like Al Gore's network at that point, And I mean,
I would argue that's what.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
It is now.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But but my point, my point is is that you
know they're using cable subscription fees across state lines to
do basically what they've been accused of doing with Act Blue,
which is they are you can't buy the kind of
coverage that they give for free to the Democrats, So

(43:34):
let's just assume they're not getting it for free. There's
a quid pro quote. Every Democratic congressman who's ever sat
on any of these committees, you know, is sitting there
doing their bidding because they know they have to keep
these people fat and happy. I I want to imagine
that on deck, you know, is prosecution of these companies.

(43:58):
They they literally into war against the First Amendment.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, no, I you're you're laying which you're laying out
is you know, again downstream of all of these little
things that we've that we started this podcast a little slow,
I think on purpose, just to kind of lay the
background out of what the situation is. But this is
the culmination of, you know, now decades of perfidy and

(44:25):
mountbeasts and parts of these people and and now they're
caught like desperately and it's obvious. And this is where
we have to watch carefully how Trump and company play this,
because they're clearly laying out a case here to do
much of what you're talking about. And you know, I

(44:46):
hope so you know, I'm not convinced, but well, I
know what I mean by that is, let's let's not
get ourselves. This is where you know, we in the
alternative media space have to really sit down, dig into
the details on these things and make this make this
case clearly. And you know that's our job. That's our

(45:09):
job as journalists. If we're if we're going to add
don't call me that. I know, but I don't. I don't.
I don't see much now.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
But we're not journalists. We're we're not We're opinion people.
And let's talk about for this, you know, like I
I think journalism is important and gone. We have to
do the legacy, you know, media is all I will
call them. They are not journalists.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
They do not do the journalism and therefore shouldn't have
the protection of journalists.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Right, And I mean, here's the thing, like, let's talk
about the fact that the Fourth Estate, you know, and
the Ivy League more to the point, they've all been
hopelessly corrupted. You know, they've they've and it's it's it's
happened in stages. But they first they want to live
in a cordon sant. They want to live in their
safe space where they can't be challenged, which is you

(46:04):
know what all intellectually strong people desire.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Haha.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
But the point is is, no matter how smarter dumb
you are, like, once you stop accepting any challenges, this
doesn't make you smarter, even if your ideas are objectively better,
which I'm not saying they are. But when you start
refusing debate or worse, you know, precluding the possibility of debate,
this never makes you stronger. It makes you dumber, and

(46:29):
it makes you more susceptible to dumb ideas. And you know,
the American media and the Ivy League, where our quote
intellectual ideas come from, are both like just mired in this.
It's a major systemic problem that's been in frankly endemic
in American intellectual life since somewhere between like when Alan

(46:53):
Bloom published The Closing the American Mind, which was like
eighty six or seven, and The Fall the New York
in nineteen ninety two when The Horror of Babylon took
over as editor. Oh excuse me, fact check Tina.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Brown waiting for a long time, dude.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I just think people need to understand that it's not
just it's it's a serious thing. Like I don't care
about Tina Brown just you know, she scatified Vanity Fair,
then she jumped to the New Yorker, and then she
wound up someplace more suited to her, Mirramax with Weinstein brothers.
But I'm not trying to get silent in her. She's
not worth the time. But I'm talking about, you know,
once the thing is changed, in other words, the American

(47:33):
intellectual spaces that were changed in the eighties and nineties,
the culture is gutted and there's no turning back without
a conscious restoration, you know. And you know, not to
harp too much on Lymey's qua Lymey's, but the point
is is that warts and all, American intellectual intellectualism was

(47:54):
a real thing. It was unique to us. It was
our thing. And then frankly, market versus aligned that allowed
foreign media conglomerates to erase that unique American voice from
our magazines, from our you know, even our our universities.
Right like as the it took the death of the
older history PhDs to really open the floodgates of bullshit

(48:17):
in in in the social sciences, because it was that
like hardcore history department like sensibility that kept you know,
the institutions kind of in some semblance of rationality. Once
those guys died off and were placed with all these
little you know, Marxists, like it was Katie bar the door,
because the feminists were not They couldn't do this to

(48:37):
the universities by taking over the fucking English departments. That's
not how it happened, right right. And and so in
the in the in the idea space, in the magazine space,
you know, like we lost our voice. It turned into
this millage of Anglo eurotrash dribble. And was this the
long game of the British Marxist elite using you know,

(48:59):
their use fel idiots. Maybe, but probably not. It's probably
just a vacuum that was created by you know, these
market forces. And then you know, the race to the
bottom begins q Rupert Murdoch, you know. And and so
the long march through the media, which was echoed by
the long march through the you know, through tenures in
the universities, you know, just leads to this any intellectual

(49:24):
bullshit that we live in today. And like, I really
do believe that you know, the era of the moynihans
and the you know, Ronald Reagan calling up Tip O'Neil.
It wasn't that long ago. Like, there's enough of us
alive who saw it, and we need to remember that
because we need to destroy the American media as it
exists today completely, and we need to eradicate foreign influence

(49:48):
and ownership. I'm talking about Fox too, like all of
them need to die, and we need to you know,
we need to have the First Amendment be the only
thing that matters.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yep, yep. It's very clear, it's very obvious. And this
is this is a this has been a long running
theme of ours for a long time, and it's been
you know, I I'm every time we have this conversation,
I keep flashing back to when you called me up
one time and we were chatting, and he said, and

(50:23):
you just looked at me, and he said, did you
did you see the news that the AP bought up
I I just like went just back in the early
nineties or whatever, and I'm like, uh huh, And I
was not. I was not. There was a time, folks
when I was not politically saddy at all. And but
Dexter always has been, and uh, he's and you went

(50:45):
on for probably twenty minutes too, like, remind me just
how important it is. You were worried about the conglomeration
of media and news feeds and everything else, you know,
basically the entire time I've known you.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, well, there's not dynamic tension. There's no way being
done right, Like if there's just one wire service, it's over.
And that was kind of my point.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah, No, you were, you were, you were right then.
And it took me about another ten years to realize that.
During the Gulf War, the first not during the Iraq War,
when I was watching them, I finally started watching the
media differently, and I realized that, oh, Condolli is a rice,
the Secretary of State. At that point in time, whatever
came out of her mouth was the only thing that
was repeated ad nauseum everywhere else on you know, on

(51:28):
all the media. And I'm like, oh, we don't have
journalism anymore, we have course scenographers. That was my moment.
It was back into what two thousand and three or
something like that. But you know, just to give you
an idea of posts, this is why we've you know,
this is you know, we're we've been cynical about this
ship for you know, most of our adult lives. And
because you can I can remember every time you bring

(51:50):
this up. I can remember the way American politics used
to operate, even back during the eighties. And there was
divisions back then, but they were at least cordial. There
were people with there were two or three or four.
There's a polality of perspectives, and then eventually we you know,
you know, we make a decision right or wrong. We're
not doing that now. Now it's every day is opposite

(52:10):
day in Trump's New America. And that makes them very predictable.
It makes them very easy to to figure out and
our heuristics on how they're going to react into the future.
This is why be honest with this is why we're
we're good at this. It's because they're they've become so
easy to figure out. One last thing, and I'll turn

(52:31):
it back over. I remember another conversation you and I
had about these very things, and I was talking about,
you know, six seven, eight years ago, I think when
we were talking about Putin's move in the Syria, and
I kept talking about how Putin was making these these
immense geopolitical moves that were consequential, and he just looked
at me and said, yeah, but it's not like Putin's

(52:52):
a genius. He's just fighting against mental midgets. These are
people who are these these are these are the these
are the third stringers. These you know, my in hockey speak,
these are you're fighting as ahlers here, and you know
you're not even you're not fighting as professionals, and like, okay,
fair enough, and and that was a it was a
I remember that conversation because I've always kept in the
back of my mind when I go and I look

(53:13):
at how the world operates geopolitically, and it's helped me
temper some of my my positions on these things. And
it's it's it's important, it really is important for us
to continue to have those kinds of conversations on a
regular basis and the temporary expectations.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
My my governing principle is a water rolls downhill, and
like somebody digs a ditch, it's going to get filled.
Like it's not. Everything's not like a giant pushing of
a boulder up a mountain. Like gravity is always in play,
and gravity is playing the role of entropy in this model,
like we might have the best technology and the Russians
might have far inferior not just technology, but but service cores,

(53:54):
Like they just don't have people taking care of their shit,
so when they deploy it, it fails. It's a better
rougher design, which means it's more durable in general, but
when it needs maintenance, it's it's a disaster. Right. But
you put that against the US, which has no objective,
you know, like it doesn't matter how many toys and

(54:16):
service cores you have if you have leaders who don't
know what the fuck they want to do, you know,
And that's.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Or you have trade traders in the case of Obama
or to trade or lead Obama, who are actively trying
to destroy the country.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Oh of course, But but I'm talking just in every
engagement the US has with anybody, our biggest deficit is
always just not having a goddamn.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Goal, right, And which is what? Which is why? It's
very interesting, And this is what I've been cautioning a
lot of people about across a number of different idioms,
you know, be it bitcoin or the bond market, or geopolitics, whatever,
which is that you know, you'all have gotten really used
to in the United States that doesn't fight for its
own interests. You've gotten useful Federal reserve that's not going
to fight for itself. You've gotten useful, you know, banking

(54:59):
system that's that's that's been wholly captured by global forces.
You don't know what it looks like when we finally
turn that corner.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
We've never seen also, a United States of America unleashed
without a lot of British influence. And the possibility of
that moment is coming, specifically on the southern border. I hope,
you know, it's measured but incredibly strong. But I worry that,

(55:27):
you know, we could lose the script down there in
a way that you know, of course, But but I
think that that moment is coming. One other thing I
want to say about sure, kind of the long march
through the institutions or whatever you want to call it,
the long march through the media, Like there's there's another

(55:48):
feedback effect of all this bullshit, which is this pathological
American thirst for stardom, right, and that universally always makes
everything even and this fusion of politics and entertainment. So
at least the Clintons were hicks from Arkansas, and at

(56:10):
least Bill was right, and he was starstruck and he
really wanted to play a saxophone on SNL and he
really wanted to obviously bang models or you know, he
had to settle for something less. But you know, in
that era, it was like they were trying to make
politicians cool, right, Like they were trying to make politicians
into stars. And now and you know, then they switched

(56:35):
to Obama, who was like a cast character that they
basically cast as a politician, Like he wasn't a star,
but he had star quality. And now we're all the
way down the you know, you know, so so you know,
you have the sort of on the dem side, the's
like so called stars wanting to be Paul's now like Oprah.

(56:56):
But but you know, let's face it, we got Trump.
You know, Trump won because he's you know, not because
of his political speech. He won because of his notoriety
and his name recognition. And it's a dangerous time, right,
like because we have the media, which you know was

(57:16):
literally fully infiltrated in the fifties, right and along with
a lot of parts of our you know, by by
the communists, sorry people, and this all persists without a
showrunner right, like it's a conspiracy after the fact, and
so I think it's very dangerous the level of bullshit
like like why do why is George Clooney, you know

(57:38):
an important part of the American political story? Like are
like what the fuck? Right? You know, it's it's like,
I mean, obviously I would be remiss not mentioning, you know,
Ronald Reagan. But yeah, but Reagan at least went on
to become governor of you know, then I don't know
if Calviunorifournia was the largest state. I think at that

(57:59):
point view was still. But but this is a dangerous game,
I think for America because what it does is it
obviates understanding of policy and replaces it with with notoriety
as like the the you know, the important factor in
getting elected. And this is a we we really need

(58:21):
to figure out how to stop this, you know. And
that's not a statement against Trump, but it's not a good.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Look, No, it's not. And I you know, one of
the things I really like about what what Trump has done,
I'll be honest with you, is if you look at
the cabin that he has around him, and clearly the
people that he's setting up for you know, quote unquote
whatever legacy he's gonna wind up with. And we're I
think we're one step closer to that this morning with
the with the tax cut bill, the budget bill, budget

(58:52):
reconciliation bill getting through the House and now moving on
to the Senate. Which is that you know, he's not
promoting people. These these are all people that are that
grew up within you know, in many ways within government,
you have you know, people like like them or not.
You have people like Rubio and Vance and Gabbard and
you know, even Kennedy who's comp who I think is

(59:13):
compromised to the point where he's not probably not electable,
but you have you have a cabinet, a round of
relatively serious people. And I mean that relatively in comparison
to what we've had recently. And you'll note also that
with the Democratic Party. And I think it was one
of the last points I think we want to make
before we close the show, because I know you wanted

(59:34):
to make it, which is that you'll notice that no
one's talking about, you know, Dwayne Johnson running as a
Democratic candidate. Now you know, that star power thing is
starting to fade because the Democrats don't have anything, And
I think this is that moment where clearly we're working
in a moment where they're trying to split the GOP

(59:54):
and they're trying to split the MAGA movement. They're trying
to cleave off various bits and pieces of it with
with the budget bill and a variety of other things.
And that's another podcast for another day. But I think
what's the big thing here and I want you to
speak to this is what you really see happening with
the Democratic Party itself because these issues that we've discussed today,

(01:00:18):
especially going back to the Biden scenario, really do leave
us in a moment which is weird because we had
people we had. So here's the big significant one and
i'll tee you up with this one. The Genius Bill,
the stable coin bill that went through. Elizabeth Warren was
big mad because she got sixteen defections on the Democratic

(01:00:41):
side and you know, only the only the hardcore effectively Boomers,
the Chuck Schumers and the Elizabeth Warrens who were trying
to hold the status quote together. They got trounched and
now the Democrats are in, you know, complete this array.
Like David Hog was VP of the Ancy for what
three months, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'm not ready to make any big, you know, predictions,
but I'll say about forces in play, like Obama's really
vulnerable right now, because frankly, I think it could be
shown that Obama was illicitly running the Biden White House.
I mean, the two best case scenarios for Obama is
that they blame everything on the Bidens from twenty twenty

(01:01:24):
one onward. Right, But that's not supported by facts, right, Like,
there's plenty of people, and there's plenty of people who
are in this administration, you know, who are gonna are
gonna there's a lot. There's again the metaphor of the rats.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Once once four cabinet secretaries have spoken, albeit anonymously, but
on the record, like all bets are off, man, Like
everybody's gonna call. This is beyond crisis pr this is
this is about getting the best lawyer you can get.
This is about staying out of prison. And so I

(01:02:03):
think you've got Hakeem Jeffries is out there paying lip
service to just more and more. He's painted into a
corner where he just has to defend the most idiotic stuff.
He's obviously Obama's pick for the future, and I think
he's kind of fucked. You have the AOC ascendancy, which
I think is largely created by people like us. I

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don't think anybody thinks she's the face of the party.
I think all these stories are just assholes. Sorry, like
like like it's it's like nobody believes that she's going
to run the party, but everybody wants to write that
story because it just tweaks so many people. And look,
I'm not above writing that story in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Right because I want I want no exactly, but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It's like just a fantasy that you know, and I
think Hoog being pushed out is a sense that like,
you know, look, these people denied their party at goddamn primary.
When a senile guy like I mean step down, they're like,
oh yeah, we're just going to put his member of
his administration who's clearly been running cover. Like, let's talk
about Kamala Harris future zero, because in every version of this,

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like like how can she be governor of California when
she's literally been shown to be in a conspiracy too.
I mean, like I hate to break it to Kamala,
but the Biden family's best play is to say oh, well,
she was the run, the one running the policy. We
were just protecting our pop pap, you know, and that
story can be made to stick and then she's fucked

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because then she is like a vp usurper or whatever.
So all this stuff remains to be seen. But I
do think the Democratic Party is an extreme disarray. I
do think, you know, I just don't even want to
say it, but Hillary's pretty old. But she doesn't think

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she's pretty old. Like you know, like the hydra, you know,
it's like more like a starfish and can cut it
into pieces. You get five starfish, you cut Hillary and
have you get two Hillaries and they just never stop.
But factionally, like, I do think that Obama has got
a lot of damage control to do. And I will

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just say my ultimate conclusion is that we're going to
have to see how how it pans out. We obviously
this is a subject to be revisited ultimately. I think
this is my takeaway for this our talk today. We
must reject the legacy media in total. At this moment
in time, This is the moment where the coupdi gras
is laid, because they only serve the interest of power

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and never truth and that makes them incapable of holding
the mantle of journalism ever again, they need to be
exiled from the Kingdom, and this is an important moment.
Like this is not to say that Republicans are right
or right wing media is right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
It's the idea that we have this fake neutral media
with broad cast licenses who then use their cable affiliates
to suck cable fees to destroy the First Amendment. That
mechanism must be broken, and it must be broken for
principled reasons. By stating, you guys were in a conspiracy
against the people, you have no place here. That's my soapbox.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Dismount agreed, and it's an excellent one to leave things.
But the one last thing I will say is on
the point of the Democrats being in disarray, That's exactly
what Trump tweeted out this morning after the the budget
reconciliation bill passed through the House with one vote two
fifteen to fourteen. He said, the Democrats are in disarray,

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they're not even fighting. We have them the Senate get
this done, right, So yeah, he's easy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
The salt tax thing, which I personally wouldn't have liked
to have seen go up to forty thousand because it
just pays for too much left wing nonsense. But you know,
it is what it is, and it scales down for
people over a certain level. But it's you know, it's
just it's a property tax, you know, rebate bill. It'll

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be great for Florida real estate by the way, but
you know Trump. I think the fact that Trump said
screw it given their forty thousand is a really good
indicator of how important this bill is in total, and
how many pieces of this you know, I would tell
people on a year look back, I bet you a
lot of that money doesn't get spent. And the fact

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is he's now got the operating room to run the
first two years of his administration without talking to Congress.
And as soon as this goes through Katie bar the door.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yep, that's what I think as well. And we'll leave
it there. Thanks sir, that was excellent. Thank you for
taking the time this morning. We'll visit some of this
stuff again in your future.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Thanks to all of our subscribers and our listeners. We're
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Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Thanks is absolutely correct. All right. With that said, we're out,
you guys, take care of we'll be well. We'll talk soon.
Keep your stick on the eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
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