Episode #230 - Matt Ehret & Dexter White and the Canada Question, Eh - Gold Goats 'n Guns Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, and welcome to the Gold, Ghost and Guns podcast
for September second, twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Lawonga.
We have a lot to talk about. It's episode two
thirty and welcome back to the podcast for the first
time in quite a while, Matt Eric, Matt, how are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
What was a pleasure to be with you, guys. I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
And also with a special returning guest to sit down
and chat with Matt is Dexter White. Dexter, how are
you this afternoon?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good Tom, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
And Matt, good to see you it Gause.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now what we're going to do today is I you know,
we were all up in Calgary together back for Sean
Newman's Cornerstone, which was a great amount of fun. I
had a blast that weekend, and I know, and we
all got a chance to meet in person for the
first time, which was great. And since then, Dexter and
I have been doing a whole kind of series of,
you know, discussions about and articles on our newsletter about

(01:14):
Canada and the rapid level of I would call it
hostility that's coming out of Ottawa. And I was wanting
to get Matt on the program to kind of balance
out our, you know, rapidly pro American perspective on this
and see where we go. So, Matt, you know, what
do you see with mister Mark Karney, who apparently just

(01:36):
like released a documentary about as well. So that's also
a very cool angle on this. So I don't know,
what do you see with mister Karney. Yeah, it's kind
of a nice little icebreaker. And unfortunately I didn't yet
read your newest newsletter, so I didn't get dexter and
your take on the situation. But I guess I'll find
out in the course of today's conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
The auspiciousness of this particular conversation is noted because I did,
as you just allude to, I released a documentary. My
wife are are our collaborator, Jason Doll and I teamed
up and we put together a Mark Carney thirty four
minute documentary just just to give people a bit of
a sense of the pedigree of what he represents. And

(02:20):
it's literally called Mark Carneys dystopic pedigree, because I mean,
I'm I interfaced with a lot of American patriots, a
lot a lot of people in the mega crowd. I've
got I've got a show on a on a mega channel,
and there's a lot of tendency, I think to underestimate
the sophisticated and and old evil that is Canada.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
There.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
There there's a tendency in Americans to really underestimate what
this is. And I think that that's a that's an
old habit that Americans have had since the earliest days
of the American Republic, and it has unfortunately created a
blind spot which has resulted in many, many unnecessary tragedies
that have undone a lot of good, a lot of
efforts to create finalize the ideals of the American UH

(03:10):
founding documents. I mean, there's been We've talked about this
a lot in our previous chats. A lot of American
presidents have been assassinated, a lot of destabilizations of America
from from the outside, from especially, and you guys have
mapped this up pretty well. The City of London and
their assets internationally, right, Canada being no exception as the

(03:30):
only monarchy of the of the Americas, and the influence
of various forms of anti American operations of a very
high and sophisticated nature, including the murder of JFK, including
the murder of Lincoln could not have happened were it
not for British intelligence operations in Montreal specifically, and also Toronto.

(03:53):
So you know, CARNEI represents sort of the embodiment as
far as I could see, having mapped them out now
for for well over, he first came out of my
radar a little bit before he became Governor of the
Bank of Canada back in eighty a bit earlier. And
having just hate attention to what he's a part of,

(04:15):
what he does, what his ideology is, what his modus
apparandi is, who handles him, I've got to say he
really does represent the embodiment of everything wrong with British
Canada and everything that Americans should develop a better appreciation for,
because he's not here to help Mega. I mean, I'm
saying I know you guys know this, but I'm saying
this because a lot of the people that listen to

(04:35):
my shows, we've got a lot of like layered conspiracies
that involve Carnee and Trump working together to defeat the Empire.
That's not happening. Yeah, I know you don't, but.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's not happening.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I think Americans, it's not even that they overlook Canada.
They're they're just completely ignorant of Canada. Like, you know,
we think we're alone in North America north of the
Rio Grande. I mean like it's we're like, oh yeah,
there's people are up there, I guess, And I don't
think that's you know, recently, I think the Canadian you know,

(05:10):
I look at Carnelie not really as a Canadian as
much as someone who serves something that Canada is the
property of. And I contrast that with the people I
met in Calgary and just you know, who seemed much
more like patriotic Americans that I could relate to. Who
especially the more I learned about the way the relationship

(05:31):
between the sort of western provinces and territories to Ottawa
like really works, the more I was just shocked that
it still persists. But you know, that situation is what
it is. But I don't know the hostility since Trump,
I don't think inadequately be you know, explained by just

(05:51):
an ab reaction to Trump teasing about the fifty first state.
It was that he cracked, you know, he cracked open
the beer and then we got this histrionic response, you know,
and it was like wait, what are you guys really
want to start a war with US? It seems kind
of silly. You're not going to do well. But I'm

(06:12):
really concerned more about like a long term horizon, Like
obviously Canada has no military to speak of, but that
doesn't mean that very negative things for the United States
can't come. And as you just alluded to, like historically,
but I look to the future of you know, things
like nora Ad and the Chinese triads in Western Canada

(06:33):
becoming more and more sort of uncontrolled, and even like
Ottawa inviting China to participate in the energy market in
ways that will be very destabilizing, you know. I just
you know, should Americans be thinking of Canada as a
long term threat? Things like the Century initiative, the idea

(06:55):
that your population is going to go to one hundred
million by twenty one hundred, which would be about twenty
five percent of the US population you know, at the
time in the future, whereas now you're only about twelve percent.
So the idea that you're going to double in size
seems weird as an objective just for any nation. Honestly,

(07:16):
it doesn't seem like something coming from inside a nation
that thinks of itself as itself. It seems more like
something that would come from outside as a plan, and
in this case specifically to encumber the United States from
Fortress America and give them something, you know, more of
a threat akin to the Mexican cartels and the Narco

(07:37):
state to our south, to sort of box the country in.
Is that a crazy perspective? Is that something that we
should not be thinking about for the future. I mean,
is it all just? Is it all just poutine and
weak beer and no.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I like how your mind works, dexter works, Yeah, man,
look like I you know, it takes a lot. This
might be difficult for many Canadians to hear this. Alberton's
have are much better at coming to terms with this
for obvious reasons, and you guys encountered that very very

(08:12):
directly when we're all together in Calgary for that fantastic conference.
But for many Canadians, it's really tough that we're a
synthetic country. I mean, just to say it, got to
say it. And it's like any any alcoholic, you know,
you got to admit you got a problem and then
you can start coming through a battle plan for solving
a problem. But you got to admit the problem, and
a lot of people are really really drunk on the

(08:33):
sacred the national myth that's been cooked up for us
by those very figures that have been lording over above
and outside of Canada. For I mean, I would say
since our very first draft of a constitution in seventeen
ninety one, which was basically just a you know, a
British a British synthetic construct designed to give people as

(08:55):
as much of an illusion of localized democracy as humanly
possible with none of the actual power of influencing anything
meaningful in their lives. And then there's been subsequent drafts,
you know, or iterations in eighteen forty, the Acts of
Union eighteen sixty seven, the British North America Act nineteen
thirty two, the Westminster Treaty, the Carrilliot Trudeau Carter of

(09:20):
Rights and Freedoms. I would say that there's one possible
they're all illegitimate.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
They're all in.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Trying the idea of rights as being something that is
given to the people by a foreign power organized around
a hereditary institution. And sure enough, when you listen to
the oaths of office that every Prime minister has to
go through or the oaths to join the Privy Council
that every Prime minister, private citizens who are going to
be playing a big role in the machinations of the

(09:48):
empire have to have to pledge. It's to not the
people or the nation, but.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Rather to.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
The crown and the hereditary heirs of whoever is sitting
on the crown. That's who they pay fealty to. And
that's who who's the oaths of secrecy that they have
to pledge as being, you know, secrets that they keep secret.
It's designed for the service of game masters who are
looking at the world like a giant board game. And
there's games within games and with games. That's how it's

(10:19):
kind of there's nested games, right, and one of those
things is as So I'll say this for the different
mafia operations, and there's so many different varieties Jewish mafia,
you know, Corsican, Sicilian, Asian Triad mafia, Russian, Albanian, like,

(10:39):
there's so many variations on the thing, but they do
the same thing, you know, Mexican cartels and Mexican sinelo.
So the thing is that when I've come to realize
this more and more is that all of this is
just the necessary aspect of world empire. You need to
have a shadow like a shadow government that organizes self

(11:00):
around corruption, right around creating. Especially you know, drugs are
a useful illicit product that people always want, prostitution and gambling,
other things you know, you can get. Basically, it's an
economy of vice and it's very useful for a number
of things to weaken and zap the vitality of your
target population, like like the British discovered so well in
China over the century of humiliation. You know, you just

(11:22):
get everybody addicted. You also can very very easily compromise
political officials who are supposed to be responsible for maintaining
that society. They can easily become assets of the empire.
And then you start looking at things like the Bronfman gang,
the Brafman dynasty that was grown up that couldn't have
have grown successfully on its own. It had to get

(11:44):
patronage from the major banks, from the major insurance companies
of Canada at the time in the early eighteen nineties
turn of the century. That shows that particular Brofin family.
Because you know, there are certain sociopathic talents that Samuel
Broffman exhibited and he was like, Okay, there was other
other rivals that could have been selected, but it was him,

(12:05):
and he was the one who's given certain controls over seagrams,
the liquor, the liquor business, especially during Canadian Prohibition, which
happened first before the US prohibition. It was five years
of Canadian prohibition designed specifically to help grow this organized
crime structure. And then it was like didn't miss a

(12:26):
beat right as soon it was as who was legalized
in Canada. After this period of organizing and incubating this
organized crime complex, then it was done in the United
States and then the already existent infrastructure could then be
used to cultivate and grow the American Lucky Luciano the
crime syndicates there, which again couldn't have grown on their own.

(12:48):
And you look at the rewards that were given to
Samuel Broffman. The rewards involved things like he was made
in order of the Knights of the both like that's
one of the highest mercenary like Masonic orders overseen by
the Monarch of Britain, which was why would they give
that to the head of organized crime that then oversaw
mir Lansky and things you know, and it's still there, right,

(13:10):
Like who's in charge of the treasurer of the Liberal
Party of Canada, Stephen Groffman, Right, And the.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Device is like a secondary tax base. You control the
country with laws because you need order, but then because
you don't want to give away another stream of income,
you you stack the organized crime or whichever underworld we're
talking about. The techniques vary, but it's you. You lock
up the control of that prohibited market and then you

(13:39):
can play both sides. And I think the one you
mentioned that's the most important element of this structure is
the blackmail part, where you know, if you control the hookers,
the heroine and whatever, ad infinitum, you also control thirty
five percent of politicians. You control the other the rest
with bribery and evidence of having accepted bribes in the past. Right,

(14:03):
it's the same blackmail. It's just some people, you know,
some people don't have drug problems, but it's it's certainly
not new, you know. And you're right about the opium
wars and and how that works with the East India
Company and how these things which were quasi governmentally linked
and approved but not the empire itself. But come on

(14:25):
and it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think about this all the time with crypto. Frankly,
I'm always waiting for the shoe to drop of, you know,
a defect in in elliptic curve cryptography, and everyone's gonna
be like, oh, surprise, it was the CIA, you know,
and a lot of you know, a lot of people
will laugh at that. But I talk to a lot
of bitcoin people who, you know, the reason they bought

(14:48):
a lot of gold with their bitcoin is they too
understand that something about the whole origin story is a
little too neat and a little too American, and uh,
you know, I I believe that, you know, I I'm
not saying I believe believe this, but I know that
the information, the you know, the intelligence services are using

(15:11):
crypto to fund operations. That's clear, and maybe not.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'm totally in favor of being caustiously pessimistic.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
It's it's basically a vacuum and pressure model of the universe.
You know, when you when you're like, oh, this absolute
vacuum exists over here, but you're on Earth, I'd be like, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Not for long.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's it's it's an e you know, electricity follows the
path at least resistance and arbitrage is close. And so
anything that people think is oh, we just got technology,
just gave us freedom and the government can't stop us.
I'll be like, you might want to think that through,
because chances are this isn't the end of the puppet show.
It's just the next act.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, yeah, it's interesting you you bring up that. You know,
the thing about arbitrage is not arbitrage is closed. Well,
they're supposed to, you know, and even nominally free markets
and just or just even partially free.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Making it it's so the physics of finance, we'll call
it here. You know, it's just like electricity. Why would
the inefficient path be the one chosen when everyone can see?
You know, arbitrage is always in the beginning are hard
to see, and then everyone sees them and then they close.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well, then we're sitting here recording this the day after
Labor Day, where gold is breaking about thirty five hundred
dollars an ounce, and yet for the last six weeks
or more, there's been a durable arbitrage between the spot
price of gold and the futures price of gold of
about seventy five dollars which is the whitest I've ever
seen it in the twenty five years that I've been
following the gold market. Yeah, and you have to ask yourself.
And I've been exploring this idea of arbitrages refusing to

(16:47):
close in a number of different contacts now for a
long time and certainly regulatorily, geopolitically, YadA, YadA, YadA, and it.
You know, I just think at some point Canada is
one of those arbitrages that has never closed for whatever reason.
That geopolitically we have Canada which should have been absorbed

(17:07):
into the United States, which should have never even existed
in the first place, and you know, and still exists
as this kind of quasi independent thing and now is
being turned into a hostile border actor on house actor
on our border. It's a weird thing. Go aheadn't that? Yeah? Man,

(17:30):
there's so many things.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, so I guess.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Choose it.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think that Well, first of all, let me ask
you guys a question. Arnie just announced that he's going
to get rid of retaliatory tariffs. What's your take on that.
I don't actually have a full hypothis on that. I'm
just curious.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I think he doesn't have a choice. Okay, Okay, I
think it's he folded.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's a fault. Okay, it's a fault. So my my
concern is that, and I've been saying this since the
moment the indiscrission, since the moment the discussion of the
fifty first day thing came in, like early February that
looking at Carning and looking at the Canada twenty twenty operation,

(18:17):
and looking at the Stephen Bromfman operation, which, by the way,
the Brompin family as a as a micro dynasty, a
servant of the empire. They they ran that is Brookfield,
So the Brookfield Asset Management, massive global behemoth, that is
Brooklyn that was created out of a merger between bras Can,

(18:39):
which is the Brompin run former known Brazilian Light Attraction
that ran like that somehow out of Montreal. It was
a branch of Montreal Light in Traction that became hydro
Quebec back in nineteen sixty one. Raz Can or Brazilian
Light Traction was a subsidiary. It ran like most of
the Brazilian infrastructure. It was this entity that was used.

(19:00):
And there's a book called let Us Pray written back
in the nineties, going through very well how bras Can
and its executives working with Bechtel over through the Nationalist
government of Brazil in sixty four gul Art and inserted
their own puppet, who then did exactly what Pinochet later
on did under Kissinger and George Chelz's lead in Chile.

(19:21):
But it was done here first. And the Canadian organized
crime apparatus that runs that has a surface that has
been given a surface appearance of legitimacy by controlling like
hard assets, is just one aspect of this thing. So
it merged with Edper, the Edgar Peter Brafman conglomerate that

(19:44):
was also an asset asset management company, and BRASCN and
Edper merged in nineteen ninety eight they created Brookfield. Brookfield
is what Murcarney was. I don't he wasn't just the
board director. I think he was the CEO or CFO
of it or something, but he had to get rid
of that position when he became Prime minister. Now they

(20:04):
have again control of a lot of art assets around
the world, not just the office buildings. They focus on
green So they're trying to nedge the world towards the
green you know, new Deal type of economy is.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
There origin though seagrums like it was like the family
wealth was built with liquor first or was that? Yeah,
so like the Kennedys. But the Kennedys all got killed
and dissipated. But it seems like so they basically pivoted
from a booze empire into arms empire.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes, god yeah and drugs yeah yeah, so well.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Drugs are always an ancillary way to finance anything, right,
Like that's always or to undo a country like I mean, Mexico,
for instance, has been Mexico isn't a valid you know,
I don't care what anybody says. Mexico is not a country.
Mexico is a rough conspiracy of warring factions and they're

(21:02):
paid off, you know, little sycophants, I mean all the
way up to the president.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You know. It's just yeah yeah, well yeah, and you
know he Perforeio Dias and you know these like fors
for the empire who were installed to just accelerate the
the this organized crime thing that basically masquerades as a government.
But so Canada is like it's so important for people
to just like wrap their head around this. So you

(21:29):
and also I didn't mention this, but you know Edgar
and Peter Broffman, but Edgar Bromp and Charles Brofman. It
was Edgar, no Charles who was also part of the
the Mega Group or Mega group, sorry, the Mega book,
not Mega not Meg Mega Mega group under Maxwell and
the whole Epstein operation that grew out of that. He's

(21:50):
also a pretty counselor for her majesty. So Charles Brompton
was ordained just like Mary Strong as a private citizen,
to be a pretty counselor either either like not. These
are anomalies not to be ignored. So they again they
serve a higher interest. They're not their own self contained
things as many treat them. But that's not the only
aspect to it, you know, so you have also that

(22:11):
the thing that's grooming them, that's that's helping to propel them,
are you know you you always will tend to encounter
such institutions that Mark Carney was also a president of
like Chatham House, so he's the president of that up
until like two seconds ago. So that's not a small thing.
That's the first time we've ever had a sitting Prime
Minister who was also simultaneously the head of the queen

(22:31):
of all think tanks. How much of his.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Life has he spent in Canada versus in London, because
that would be an interesting just I mean, he's born
in Canada, I presume.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right in Oxford.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah right, but but like how many you know, ever
many years old he is? How many has he net
spent in Canada? Because I mean, you would hope that
your that your leadership isn't spent most hasn't spent most
of their life not in the country they're leading just
as a general, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
They never did that work. I don't know, I know
he spent He loves Brandon. That's his that's his real.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Right, So he's kind of like just not even really
a Canadian in a weird kind of way, like he's.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
He is or he is in a weird way whatever
that word means.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's the most Okay, yeah right, you guys definitely not talking.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
We're not talking.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
We're not talking about right, We're not talking about Green Canadians.
We're not talking you know, you know, we're talking Canadian Canadians,
like the ones that actually settled Canada after the American
Revolution in order to you know, effectively bomb us from
from the north right, So, I mean it does if

(23:42):
I owned correctly, the the the kind of the founding
of this of what we're dealing with with what we
think of as modern Canada was the the loyalists in
the Northeast and the United States who lost to the
Revolutionary War all basically fucked off the to the area
around Toronto which hadn't really been settled by anything other

(24:06):
than thur trappers from I understand, that's where the term
the oarn Elites come from, right. And I booked a
Chrisims about this a little bit. I's looking to day
Bradley about this a little bit and to try and
get a little better sense of what's going on going
on there. And there's a fundamental difference between the people
who who are who are the natives that settled there
and have had the infrastructure there and I think which

(24:27):
you're alluding to with all of the the the Brompton
stuff and all of that, and then the difference between
that and you know, Western Canada and and how that
is you know, was basically settled I understand also understand
correctly basically by Americans who went west and then north,
and they're fundamentally different. They're they're fundamentally different culture is

(24:48):
not just because they're fundamentally different geographies, but the type
of people that actually settled them. So, I mean, I
don't know how much that's true or not, you're you know,
but I bring that in as a as a as
a way to understand that Canada has always been a
kind of British anti thing like India, Pakistan, Palaside, Israel, Canada,

(25:10):
the United States. We have to always think North and
South Korea, Taiwan, China, YadA, YadA, YadA, Hong Kong, Trent,
whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Right, So yeah, no, I well here, So this kind
of folds back into what uh this conversation began with.
Because it's such a broad topic, right, It's sometimes hard
to just like answer a question directly because you're like, Okay,
that question involves all of this other context.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Cool and so for it. But we have time, Matt,
go for it.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So what you guys were saying at the very beginning
regarding like, well, what is Canada, I like I and
I was saying how danger it is, how dangerous it is.
So the thing that I see with Karne, because you
you alluded to this centennial program to double or even
more the population of Canada by the end of the century.

(25:59):
So Carne has over so unleasing a new program which
is reactive, it is not causal, and I think it's
following the same template as that laid out by the
eighteen seventy to eighteen eighty five figure of Sir John A. McDonald.
So right after we had constant our confederation. You know,

(26:20):
as I've said many times, I see Canada as like
the British North, the British confederacy operation against the Union
that succeeded. There was two one was South, one was North.
The North one succeeded, and that was eighteen sixty seven.
Right the actual confederation, the articles of Confederation themselves were
drafted in eighteen sixty four. So as during the Civil War,

(26:41):
it still wasn't fully certain whether or not the US
was going to survive that ordeal or not, but it
was understood by the very end that it was probably
going to survive. So something had to be done because
it was understood as well that a US coming out
of that experience, following the American system like protocol which
was spreading around the world. The were admirers of Bismarck,

(27:01):
and you know leaders in Asia and Auduvon bismar sorry,
uh Zar Alexander the Second and his whole network. And
you had Grago, the foreign Minister of Argentina come into
power Portillo not Portillo sorry. Wades in Mexico is also
admiring this system too that Lincoln had had debated. And

(27:23):
so it was recognized that there were like there was
a competition of two different systems, as Alex Kraner has
has pointed out very well, and I right, there's an
idea of of like whether you'd have this Hobbsian system
of feudal capitalism masquerading his free trade, but it was
never honest free trade. It was always based upon the
idea of getting everybody in the world except the British Empire,

(27:43):
except except except England, to lay down their protectionism, to
just open up for the British East India Company and
the City of London to come in and dominate your
markets and dominate your world and keep you under developed.
Or whether it was going to be this more authentic
form of capitalism, like real nationalist capitalism that sets of
value you upon human progress and really puts a value
upon developing the powers of mind the powers of productivity

(28:06):
founded upon building both you know, building up your entrepreneurial base,
but with concrete visions, concrete projects, with goals that organize
multi generationally your people around being the best that they
can be and getting an incentive for it, like the
trans Continental Railway was one aspect of it. The trends
was the Bearing Straight rail tunnel that Lincoln had given

(28:29):
actually as a speech to Congress in eighteen sixty four.
He gave a speech and they passed a bill in
Congress and said it to extend telegraph lines through the
Bearing Straight which is just one hundred miles of separation
between Russia that Russia and the United States, and the
United States only got Alaska because the Russians had were
just then preparing to sell Alaska, which finally happened in

(28:52):
eighteen sixty seven, but the negotiations were already underway, ring
back to as far as like eighteen sixty three when
the Russians came in and saved the United States by
sending by by Alexander Sekid sending the Russian Navy to
to basically keep America safe and to have a message
to the Empire saying that both empires French and English
that if you get into the United States, if on

(29:14):
the side of the Confederate South, that's war with Russia.
And so there was this great communion, this great friendship
and trust what these American and Russian patriots had with
an understanding of the enemy that were tied to this
broader idea of extending the trans continental upwards through British Columbia,
then up into the newly sold Russian territory of Alaska,
and down into the into your Asia.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
So a question about so, when you're you're talking about
the Articles of Confederation of Canada, had the US split,
let's say, into the CSA and the Union or the
USA at that point, would the vision be that Canada
and the CSA would somehow be fused in at least

(29:55):
a partnership.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Or was probably something like that, I mean, I think
it was.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
It was it was uh.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So this the Confederate the Confederate States had something known
as the the the Empire of the Golden Circle. So
like Albert Pike, Judah Benjamin, the Secretary of State of
under Jefferson Davis were all high initiates of this uh
brotherhood of the gold Golden Circles, a paramilitary group. There's

(30:22):
books written about it. You could still see their their
their maps that they had set for that they created.
They were basically all the leading executives under the Franklin
Pierce Administration, which was the Free Masonic Scottish Rite administration
of the United States. And so they was.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Slavery still going to be because like I think about
like both the Kansas Nebraska ak which brought popular sovereignty
and and there used to be a ban on. I
guess it was the thirty sixth parallel, you know, the
slave line was the thirty sixth parallel going west into
the western American territories. And then Kansas Nebraska got passed

(30:57):
and that gave popular sovereignty and and there was a
lot of fighting about it. A lot of people in
the South at the time started to look at the Caribbean.
There was a lot there's a whole interesting piece of
American history where the idea of Nicaragua and Costa Rica
sort of I'm not sure what the borders were then,
but definitely Nicaragua and that area was viewed as like

(31:19):
a future, you know in Cuba two, as future sort
of American territories, not necessarily states, and a way to
take all the productivity of the American South, you know,
And I personally don't think I think slavery was doomed
at that point anyway, because the productivity of slavery is
actually empirically low compared to you know, the industrial era.

(31:41):
But nonetheless, the idea was to stop fighting you know
what they call bleeding Kansas. They realized that popular sovereignty,
it wasn't a fight. They started to look south. And
so I'm just curious if this is all the Empire.
When did slavery get banned in the Empire and the
British Empire.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
It was eighteen thirty three, right, it was around the time.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
So, but they're probably willing to have it in their
overseas territories of course. And was this like kind of
part of a I wonder if the Americans who were
looking south towards Nicaragua were in these kind of circles
you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, well, he had the story of like William Walker
as well, Right, the mercenary that declared himself sort of
the emperor for like ten months? Was it Nicarga I believe?
Or was it? Yeah, it goes Nicaragua and there's a
story by uh De Laponte's his name, this Italian director

(32:42):
called Camata with Marlon Brando back in nineteen sixty nine,
featuring sort of a oh okay. The main character was
was William Walker, who was in this case a bit
of a composite character but designed to go and and
and he was an agent of the British Empire. In
this case, it was a British Empire. They played around
a little bit, you know, and and basically create a

(33:03):
a an organized revolution to overthrow a government utilizing a
series of inside jobs or sort of like false flags
that were created, and then to impose a puppet government
that would be under the control of the Empire that
would basically be forced to then give up all control

(33:24):
of their sugar plantations to the Empire because they were
out of money.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
And so it's i mean, most most American history, like
historians they should say, looks at this period of the
external influence being primarily financial with the goal being preferential
trade terms after the war, like they're like, oh, yeah,
let's let's help the CSA break off. And what you're
you're kind of opening up even like and I've read
a lot about this stuff, and I'm just kind of

(33:47):
intrigued that how blacked out the idea of the intrigues
and the intents are from the sort of you know,
just tax policy and preferential trade agreements, and you know,
I think a lot of you know, the French and
Russian like story gets kind of just reduced to that
just reduced to oh, they just wanted to you know,

(34:11):
it was like kind of like not so much about
whether the Union should prevail or not. It was more
about like let's keep that cheap rum circle going.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, this is the underappreciated stuff.
But I think has been designed to be forgotten is
that mystery could have easily have gone another way. And
if you look at like what is what was set
being set up because this Order of the Golden Circle,
it was it was a paramilitary group of secret society.
It was set up a year after the Beni Breath.
Many of the same leading initiates in the Banni Breth

(34:43):
were also founders of the Golden Circle. Again, many of
them were dominant in the Franklin Pierce administration, specifically and
Albert Pike, Colonel George Saunders, who's the Metsiniite, the guy
who's like the consulate of the American Consulate in London
during the Pierce administration. He's the guy who's hosting Twitzeppie Mazzini,

(35:05):
the leading nominally Republican but actually hard Palmers Palmerstonite. So
he's a devoted friend and disciple of Lord Palmerston who's
organizing these different like weaponized mass movements in different countries
that the British Empire wants to topple and overthrow in
a in sort of a proto color revolution thing. So

(35:26):
this Masini guy who's interfacing with Saunders, Saunders goes on
to work with Thompson, this guy got his first name
all of a sudden to set up the Confederate intelligence
spaces in Montreal, Kingston in Toronto. That that's vital as
far as being an anti Republican hub that was granted
to them by the British Empire to say, hey, come
to Canada, we'll give you, like Saint Lawrence Hall in

(35:48):
Montreal the biggest most strategic hub to like carry out
the Albany raids and the murder of Lincoln and other things.
You know, in the case of the Confederacy, Albert Pike
also as a member. They Albert Pike and George Saunders
were running what was known as the Southern branch of
the Young Young America. So you had a northern branch

(36:08):
of Young America that was at a southern branch, so
the different Young Albania, Young Turkey, Young Germany, Young France,
which is basically like take young, energetic, dumb people and
get them to like going over throw their government see
Ukraine twenty three or two then fourteen.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Right, it's so.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
The Saunders and Pike. So Pike goes on and becomes
the co founder of the KKK the Knights of the
Golden Circle, right, sorry, the Knights of the ku kluks Klan,
but ku klux means circle in Greek. And it was
sort of a tip of the hat to the idea
that the Golden Circle operation didn't disappear. Now if you
look at the maps that they commissioned, the ideal world
that they wanted to create after they successfully broke away

(36:48):
from America was not to just be left alone and
make their make their money and they're in their own,
you know, way of doing things. It was to expand.
It was an expansionist ideology. They had the idea of
being this seat of a new empire with Cuba as
its as its most strategic sort of island hub. That
would be the center of this golden circle, and it
would involve like a big chunk of South America, all

(37:11):
of Latin America, all of Central America, all of Mexico
would be under the control of this thing, and it
would expand. And you were asking like, what would it
what would its relationship have been to the north after succession. Well,
I didn't mention this, but the founder of the northern
branch of the Young America set up in eighteen forty

(37:31):
was Emerson. So Ralph Waldo Emerson was up. Yeah, so
he yeah, he came back from England. He was. He
described how he became the Lieutenant of Carlisle, Thomas Carlyle
being a major cult controller and manager of the cultural
warfare aspect of the empire at that time. The Edinburgh

(37:53):
Review was a big part of the Carlisle apparatus. He
basically spent quite a bit of time later on Fuller,
his disciple, did the same thing, and she worked with Mitsini,
and she worked with the Missini's other asset, they're the
red Shirts. What are their names? The Garibaldi, which brings

(38:14):
her directly into contact with Bloboski, who was doing the
same thing with Fuller at the very same time, fighting
the Garibaldi Wars in Europe under the Mitsini directives. Somerson
comes back, he gives a series of lectures. For the
first lecture he gives is that the Boston Head Scottish
Rite Masonic launch on Young America and he starts publishing

(38:34):
on Young America. And what that new idea of creating
a new type of American that didn't exist before, devoted
to this like rugged individualism completely that sees a disdain
for the Constitution, that sees these archaic old you know,
old things that are that are not noticable in the
new age that's coming into being, whatever that new age
looks like. And so he is being patronized by the heads,

(38:58):
the heads of the Northern branch of the Scottish Right,
the Northern branch of the Scottish Right, and Anton shakin.
You guys got to talk to this guy. This guy
like mapped this shit out back in like the earlies
with his Treason in America book. It's farms and uh, basically,
so you have the Northern and the Southern scot branch
of the Scottish Right that are both created by or

(39:21):
they're both loyal to the United Grand Lodge in England.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And this is like the US version of the eighteen
forty eight wave of revolution, Like this is our kind
because what year is this? Like you said it started
like eighteen forty it's kind of like seems like it's.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
This sets the tempo for it. Yeah, Like like a
lot of the leading most radical abolitionists that were that
were being sponsored by the Northern branch of the Scottish Right,
like William Harris, William the guy who was trying to
manage Frederick Douglass, William Lloyd Garrison, William Lloyd Garrison, that's him.

(39:59):
He he was, he was himself not calling for preserving
the union. He was calling for like his whole idea
was not let's completely get rid of slavery. His idea
was and his message was, first before the Civil War,
let's just let the Confederacy go and do their own thing.
They'll have slavery, we will undo the constitution, will will

(40:20):
create a new set of art, like a new set
of artist. Confederation a lot of it involved joining Canada.
So basically saying he had this view that, look, Britain
is so much more morally advanced than we are in
eighteen thirty three. They have bolished slavery, so they're more
morally advanced. We should join British colonial possessions north of
US and then reconstitute this thing, this new nation with special.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The first was the first secessionist movement in the United
States was out of Massachusetts with the Abolitionists. They were
the ones the first saying we no longer want to
be associated with slave owners.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, it's interesting that every time there's a pretension of
a revolution in America, the people who lose always say
they're going to move to Canada. And then that includes
like the very recent pass it includes the sixties, and
obviously Canada is there, but it's it's it makes you
wonder if that's not just a standard pattern that gets
thrown in to remind everybody that Canada is some idealistic

(41:20):
version of America that was better. I'm kind of I'm
kind of intrigued by the three beats of like the
American Revolution, the War of eighteen twelve, and what we're
talking about now, you know, because Americans a lot of
the time, and I think a lot of people in
history kind of forget that the whole world was colonized
by the European powers, Like the whole world was carved

(41:41):
up pretty much. And the idea that the Americans, you know,
threw the British out, you know, in seventeen seventy six
ish and onward, and that they were just left alone
is what Americans kind of teach themselves. Like we you know,
we don't even talk about the War of eighteen twelve,
you know, and if we do, we we kind of
it's like a trade of art, you know, like it's

(42:03):
an arson raid for revenge. It's like, oh, you burned
our building, We're going to burn your building. It's like yeah,
but they were trying to not just burn a couple
of buildings. Like if they could, they would have reset
the table. And and you know, Britain, or I should
really say the Empire at that time, was certainly capable,
but for whatever reason, maybe they chose to not waste

(42:24):
as much effort and prioritize infiltration because you know, they
wouldn't weaken substantially for I mean, even in World War One,
the world looked at America as you know, the sticks,
and so I kind of am just thinking of how
all these pieces work together because I have a different,

(42:44):
definitely different view of you know, the American South's motivation.
I have a hard time thinking it was entirely kind
of from the outside. But I'm not against the idea
that it was Polly you know, it was polycausal. And
I think it brings me now though to what I've
been kind of wondering about, and is Canada a future issue?

(43:07):
Like is this all one kind of never ending timeline,
And we're definitely seeing just a level of hostility out
of Canada right now that is okay, seems unprecedented to
both Americans but even Americans who have a historical background
from the American perspective.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay, So what I didn't finish this this this is
going to answer that question. So when I mentioned earlier
John A. McDonald, this is what Carney is doing is
invoking the John A. McDonald template. What does that mean?
So at the time, the Canada was clearly going to
be lost to the British Empire, whether it was going
to become its own sovereign republic or whether it was

(43:45):
going to be just joined United States. Those were both
far more likely than Canada at that time remaining part
of the British Empire. This is like eighteen sixty five
sixty six, there is an annexation bill and in Congress
William Sewart, who oversaw the sale of the of Alaska,

(44:05):
the Secretary of State, who survived his own state assassination
attempt a night Lincoln was killed. He's the guy who
like broker the sale of Alaska by the Russians in
eighteen sixty seven. He was a big advocate of just
getting control of Canada because they just saw it as
too much of a of a threatening liability. Finally, that
was probably the only time Americans finally woke up in
big numbers in political influence with a recognition of like

(44:27):
what the hell this thing was? But they still weren't
strong enough to keep that fight going. Charles Sumner as
well was working with Seward to try to get control
of Canada. A lot of Canadians wanted it to a
lot of There was a British North America British Columbia
annexation petition with the most influential British Columbians, most British
Columbian Colombians wanted the type of progress that they were

(44:47):
seeing over the border. A lot of Canadians in Quebec,
Lower Canada French Canada were known to the party run
by the followers of Peppino. Lo was Joseph Peppinau who
led the only attempt at a republic in revolution in Quebec. Ever,
his nephew oversaw the growth of this Republican resistance to

(45:08):
the Confederate Articles of Confederation, which like El David, the
guy who later became Prime Minister, Prime Minister Wilfred Laurier,
who's one of our few decent prime ministers who was
an admirer of Lincoln, they were part of this hub.
In the eighteen sixties, you had similar things going on
around the followers of William Lin Mackenzie King in Ontario
who were trying to fight back against this British operation

(45:31):
to create a synthetic country run by the Privy Council.
They didn't work, It didn't it didn't succeed. We did
get the British North America Act and coming out of
that they had to The battle was only partially won
by the Empire. Control of this valuable piece of real estate,
wedging the US from Russia. So the next part of

(45:52):
the battle was the economic battle. And so the economic
battle was how do we how do we find actially
incentivized the idea that we have a viable economy in Canada,
because we don't. They never permitted Canada to get out
of like out from underwater. The US had a battle
between nationalists versus like treacherous systems. So there was like
a sort of a there's these bursts of progress in

(46:14):
America and then there's periods of like bank panics, depressions.
In the nineteenth century, there's a fight in Canada.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
There's no fight.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
There's not really a fight. It's just we're always under
British free trade, where always, as you said, Tom keewers
of void, drawers of water, designed to be kept down,
have no manufacturing. But now all of a sudden, the British,
British Empires weakened. It's over extended itself around the world
with the Opium Wars, putting down rebellions in India, you know,
putting down the Irish, and they've just extended themselves even

(46:44):
in the American South, like they're putting a lot of
effort financing. They built hundreds of warships for the Confederacy.
They're providing a lot, like it was very expensive to
maintain this global sort of influence, and so they didn't
have a lot financially to keep Canada loyal to that
that old system of things. So there was a race,

(47:08):
and so the way the way it worked British Columbia
was was isolated. It was Canada today is not what
it was then, right it was? It was like seventy
percent of Canada's land was a privately owned territory called
the Hudson's Bayland. That was that was since Ruper's Land
in sixteen seventy two. It was sold eighteen sixty nine.
So that was basically a subsidiary of the British East

(47:31):
India Company. It was private. They couldn't they there was.
So they had to figure out number one, how do
they solve that problem? How do they persuade the British
Columbians to not join America? Because if they were clearly
going to do that. John McDonald comes comes up with
the solution. This is like a super hard hard pro
aryan pro teutonic. He was a eugenesis before there was eugenics.

(47:55):
He wanted to. He tried to introduce a bill. This
is like the George Washington of Canada. This is like
guy that Canadians are told is like your great father
of like the founding father of Canada's Johnny McDonald, Sir
John who said I'm British, or I was born and
a British or I will die. And he's assigned, Oh yeah,
he passed. He's trying to introduce a bill that would
only allow Canadian citizenship to officially blood Aaryans and Teutonics.

(48:19):
That was like a bill he introduced and people say, oh,
but you know, you got to forgive him. It was
the nineteenth century.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
The English wouldn't be included.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, that's pretty ironica, I think. I mean, you know,
I think that the Saxons were allowed in the in
the acceptable bloodlines.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
It was like, give the self hitting lammie a chance, but.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Definitely no Asians, no Blacks, no nothing. They should not
be let What is so his the the innovation that
was assigned to him to sell and to push was
called the National Plan, the National Policy and so so
it was officially launched as a way to tell BC
don't join the US we'll build you a rail across
the continent. We'll build you a rail and you can

(49:08):
have for the first time ever, some economic communion with
the East Coast for the first time. And you know,
they had to kill a guy. They killed the governor
of British Columbia who was supporting the annexation movement. At
least that's my apothesis based on the evidence I've looked
at Governor Seymour dead. Then you know they were able
to get their assets into posi of the governorship. That

(49:29):
accelerated BC joining confederation, which they did in eighteen seventy.
And the promise was, okay, we'll pay your debts, we'll
build a rail and something else. I forget when, and
oh yeah, and we'll nationalize the Hudson's bayland. So they
active in London. They passed the bill. So now that
became part of Canada, our territories. But then to do
it was another thing because we're economically incompetent. We've never

(49:52):
built industry, we didn't have any we didn't know how
to do engineering, So how to do that that was
the next challenge and that was solid partially well by
creating this evil version of Lincoln system, so they took
was Lincoln system when he what he revived with the greenbacks,
with the protective tariffs, all these things. It's very good
at getting shipped done. You can get shit done that

(50:13):
involves like taking a big nation with a lot of
different parts and getting a harmonization of action to get
a certain common effect. That's long term, it's effective. But
the Empire could also take that same mechanism and do
it for themselves for a bad intention, which is what
they did in Canada. And they started applying protective tariffs,
but not against the British Empire, but rather against America.

(50:34):
So he had like twenty five to thirty percent tariffs
against the against the the USA pre created with the
British Empire. And then you know a kind of perverse
productive credit that was tied to you know, building up
the Canadian Pacific Railway and these things that it did
unleash progress. It did in that it was finalized in

(50:54):
eighteen eighty five. A lot of corruption along the way,
but it did build. It did stimulate progress. There was
a massive explosion in quality of life in entrepreneurs, in industry.
The population demographics grew quite a bit because of this,
this idea of development. But as I make the point
of my book series on the Untold History of Canada,

(51:15):
it's like a perverse manifest destiny they created. And John A.
McDonald said, if we don't go there, I would rather
keep Canada a barren wasteland. But I know that if
we do not go there, then the Yankees will. And
I'm barely paraphrasing, that's almost exactly what he said.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Clearly, what is clearly what's going on today with Continental
of Europe and the rest of their satellite So what
they're doing to the what they're doing in England right now,
what they're doing in Australia, what they're doing in New Zealand,
and what they're going to do to Canada next. If
the Yanks want it, they're going to burn it the
fuck to the ground. This is very fucking clear in
my mind.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Well, so Parney's not doing several things that are following
a playbook that was written by the Privy Council back
in twenty eleven. You can see the white papers from
the Canada twenty twenty fifth ten. That was the same
thing Tick Tank that was behind the creation of the
North American Union so back in two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight, you know, you had this idea
of creating a euro for a European Union for North America.

(52:10):
That was John Manley of the co founder of the
of the Canada twenty twenty think Tank, which Mark Carney's wife,
Diane is the research director for and senior fellow for
that Canada twenty twenty think tank. That was the same
thing tank that created uh and and managed Justin Trudeau.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
At does chef Lesbian Sexbook. But like Tony Blair's wife,
like you know what I mean, Like that's also damn
and session. I'm you know, I hate to be like blunt.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
But yeah, I keep going. I mean Canada, I mean
I'm in Canada, dude, I mean, I mean I thought
that I want to.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I'm already put that image in anybody's head or anything.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But you know, like just to be blunt, go ahead, Yeah,
already making enough enough of these already.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Eh uh.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So all that to say, part of what they Carney
has been doing is he passed Bill C five. So
Bill C five, you guys know what that is, no
No on one Canada Act. So it's the first time
ever that you have a bill that, for the first
time ever since Johnny McDonald's, eliminates all of the grade
barriers between the provinces, right right. That's one of the

(53:12):
ways that the Empire has been able to control Canada's divide.
Divide to conquer, make sure that there's no free trade
amongst the provinces, and thus you have a more divided, regionalized,
thus easier control to control society, which worked quite well
most of the time. However, now, for the first time,
with Bill C five to one Canada Act, that's all
being eliminated.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
So it seems good though, I mean, that seems like
a good thing.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's the That's what pisses me off is that these
things individually are things I like. I want those things.
It's like, I like the idea if I was in
the nineteenth century building rail across Canada, that would be great.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Except starving you for one hundred years. They give you
a little sausage and they're like, but you're not getting
a mistake, so.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, right, yeah, keep us grobbling for crumbs. Yeah, but
but so and then sometimes they will give you a
meal to keep you like. It's called There was actually
an expression in French called on full rappee. They still
use it locally in Quebec today. On full rappay. It
just means to get fucked fucked over, but it literally
comes for in the literal word literally comes from seventeen

(54:15):
seventy six when the British actually seventeen seventy four when
the British did the Quebec Act. And the Quebec Act
was basically an effort to undermine the Continental Congress, which
was trying to persuade their republican hearted French speaking brethren
in the North that had just been fucked over by

(54:37):
the British Empire under the Seven Years War. They were
abused massively. Their hearts were with the American cause, and
the idea was, well, they could certainly be a part
of this new republic. And there were letters from the
Continental Congress, you know, Ben Franklin was organizing up up
in Quebec in Montreal, and a bunch of corrupt assholes
basically said to the Empire, we accept your bribe, which

(54:59):
was okay. Well, the Empire said, we'll give you local controls.
You could still have your French customs in French, you know,
civil law and uh and local controls over many you know,
your your your your regional administration, but you have to
stay loyal to the Crown forever. And and they accepted
this bribe, and it was called in wrapped in fur.

(55:20):
So the idea was people were saying, oh, it's like
you've been wrapped in fur. It's for a blanket policy
the empire was we'll give you comforts now. We'll give
you a lot of comforts now, but we're going to
fuck you over in the next generation.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Contrasting sort of the West and eastern modern like mindset
in Canada. I mean, maybe not Vancouver, but certainly like
the middle West or whatever the West, you know, the
West except Vancouver plus then Quebec is probably a separate topic.
But I mean I get a real sense of an
East West divide or maybe is that just a Calgary

(55:57):
divide or an Alberta divide. I should say it's historically
at east.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
The West has been fucked over historically, especially starting with
purely at Trudeau and more strong WO had control of
Petro Canada and soaked over the West to keep it.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
With what we're talking about now, and like just the
for instance, just seems like the Canadian populace will just
keep letting the frog boil go. When when the whole
Christia Freeland thing, when She's threatened in the United States,
and a lot of people were like, wait, what did
she just say? The role of Canadian mass media is different,

(56:34):
And what I'm about to say is in no way
an endorsement of American You know, neither our media nor
the average Americans perception or aptitude and understand when they're
being conned. Not what I'm saying. But I do think
that Canada seems to have a better control over their
population through the media, and the population seems to more

(56:56):
rapidly and completely take the messaging that was a sign
to them and really run with it to a degree
that's kind of would frighten me if the United States
still had that degree of national control over its populace.
Am I'm reading this wrong, because when I saw the
reaction to Trump's you know, just trolling, I was like,
these the whole country seemed energized against America, and it's

(57:19):
reflected in the trade figures of tourism and a lot
of things. Where has nobody thought this through, like you've
you know, nothing Trump said really was in any way
could be taken by a serious person as a prelude
to invasion.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Like it's like have you seen I mean, it was
just probably.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I mean, I just it's it's just strange to me,
like where we are. And then I just I look
at Canada as a place that seems on a hair
trigger given their medias. Is that a wrong way to
look at like the Canadian media influence.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, it's highly controlled. I mean, it's you're dealing with.
I would. I had a friend of mine who was
a political organizer and sometimes we would go to Ottawa
to do some political organizing, their table organizing, and he said,
you shouldn't call this candidate, you should call it Tavistock, right,
And I agree with him. I confurge it's you're dealing with.

(58:20):
It's like people who are have been profoundly targeted over
multiple generations, even couple of centuries, in a consistent operation
that's been more refined in more recent years. But it's
a consistent operation to create a society of virtue signaling victims.

(58:41):
And it's harsh, it sounds harsh to say it, but
that's been the design, is to make the Canadians incorporate
their reality from the narratives that the big enemy that's
out to always get them perpetually is the United States
that wants to destroy them, that wants to take our water,
steal our woods, steal our whatever maple say or up.
And that's like the forever demon that's been baked into

(59:05):
the school system. The textbooks, the history narratives that have
been like promoted as being what will be published versus
what will not be published as dominant books in Harper's
Collins or other you.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Know, is the culture.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, the SIAP is the culture. So you can't underestimate
the level of psychological complex and fear that America that
Canadians have baked into them. Mostly unless you're in Alberta
or some parts of like rural BC or rural Ontario
or rural the rural zones tend to be, you know,
by virtue of just being rural and outside of the

(59:37):
influence of the cosmopolitan control grid, or at least less
in that influence. You tend to be a little bit
more self thinking. It tends to be a little bit
more hands on, so you could think, you think more
reasonably about well, what practically works, so you're able to
you didn't give up on your common sense for some abstraction.
So there's a bit more reasonability.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
But threatening the new the US is not a good plan.
And if you want to have a low stress future,
because we might suddenly realize you're there and be like, hey,
we've got to spread democracy up there and to Iraq
what that looks like, because you know, you wouldn't like
us when we're angry. I mean, we're barely tolerable. When
we're just stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
There's no military there's no military candidate. I know, I
hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
We can send the Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
It's almost like the provocative.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, well, what's interesting about what you just just said
about Canada, Which it's it's clear that it's it's been
a multi generation of multi century process and makes sense
that it would be given you know, the history here.
But what's really interesting is I'm hearing I hear the
same thing today, right, you know, with the the audience

(01:00:42):
that that that we have. You know a lot of
people from Germany on, people from the UK, a lot
of people from France, and they I'm telling you, I
hear the exact same thing from them. They have tightly
controlled state medias that have turned these the recent generations,
and it's been a multi generational process to talk about

(01:01:03):
the evil American empire that runs us as a vassal
state and it's going to take us over, and they
turn into again virtue signaling victims is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
A great phrase, but it's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Across the West, and it becomes the dominant narrative. And
they've even done that same thing here in the United States,
and now we have fucking white women, suburban white women
who think the exact same goddamn way, And it's been
you know, I'll be honest with you, the only reason
I've become really obnoxious about the my my my response

(01:01:37):
to all that now is that I used to be
one of those people who hated his own countrymen. No, well, yeah,
an angry white woman, yeah I I well, I mean, dude,
I was. I've always been like ahead of the curve,
so you know, the whole trans I come on, you
know what I mean, Like, don't tell anybody, you know. So,

(01:01:57):
so my my point being is that, you know, I
used to be one of these these self hating Americans
where the myth that I was sold as a child
about the greatness about what America was and the America.
I was experiencing that gap was so wide that it
was very easy to grow up disaffected and you know,
and angry at the whole thing. And then you come

(01:02:18):
to realize that that's all just a fucking scion, that
everybody is on your and that yeah, America is not
the country that we were told it was when that
you know, when we were growing up. But that doesn't
mean it sucks either, and that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Freedom takes work. Freedom takes work, And the biggest scandal
is the people who think, well, things aren't perfect, therefore
we should give up and let It's such a great
way to be, you know, led astray by your enemies,
both foreign and domestic and in that case often foreign,
but in a way that it's cloaked. And that's why

(01:02:51):
this whole conversation is very interesting to me, because I
have a lot of ideas about foreign country intrigue into
the United States. And I will just admit freely that
until I met you, and not just in this podcast,
but earlier, like I literally never thought of Canada as
anything but you know, a place where virtual assistance worked,
and like we got commodities.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
From I mean America, it's America's hat as I've told
by Americans, right, that's America.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Wear hats anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
That's a little yeah, we don't wear hats, so I
can well, maybe we shouldn't roll bald, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
You know, and I think that also, you know, what's
what I'm what I wrote about last month in our
in our newsletter was just the problems with the American
electrical grid, which Canada is part of. And Canada's a
net ex border of electricity to it to the United
States primary I mean, and through hydropower in the West,
and you know, Niagara is one part of it, but
in Vancouver and there's a ton of hydro and that's great.

(01:03:49):
But you know, I think that you know, AI and
America is going to redesign its grid, and it might
redesign its grid differently if it sees Canada's quasi hostile.
And I do think frankly, a lot of Canadian service
jobs which are performed over the internet. I mean, commodities
are commodities. But I think Canadian job loss is going

(01:04:12):
to be substantial in the service sector, especially the transport
service sector. And if this sort of hostility continues, people
are just going to be like, yeah, I'm just not
going to deal with them, and it could it could
really cause problems I think to Canada that are in
foreign far exceeding what made you know, people think because

(01:04:33):
you know, like who, no one in Ottawa's is pulling
stuff out of the ground. They're all on the internet
all day and a lot of them make their money
with relationships with US companies, I mean, and a lot
of software development. I mean, Canada is very reliant on
software development in a way that I think is going
to get massively hammered by you know, not necessarily this year,

(01:04:56):
but twenty six, twenty seven, software development is going to
change so completely that we're going to have a huge
disruption of jobs and Canada is going to lose more
than the US per capita in the places you know,
in the in the areas of Canada that most are
at the center of what we've talked about in this podcast.

(01:05:17):
It's not going to be in Calgary that those jobs
are going to you know, disappear. It's going to be
in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, I mean, so there's what you're saying is true,
and the whole like way, I think there's a big
discussion right now around like I mean, Alberta there's a
lot of water, which is very important for AI data centers.
That some of the biggest hubs in North America are
being planned in Alberta right now. Nuclear energy has been

(01:05:45):
discussed and similarly it's it's it's sad because I'm so
I'm very much pro nuclear, but at the same measure,
the model that they're applying. When you hear them talking
about how they're going to apply the nuclear energy, it's
not it's not to develop the civilian economy. It's developed
primarily a surveillance. Great monocracy that there that's gonna be
you know, managed, managed by AI, and it's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Be a massive investment, the same things happening in the
United States. They're gonna put the power where the people are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
There's bad thinking on that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
The other thing that Carnie just announced is this half
trillion dollars five hundred billion dollar infrastructure package for upgrading
and expanding Canada's ports. The the vector around that, yeah, Google,
it's a it's it's a motion. The vector is to
try to they're looking at this the resources of Canada,

(01:06:34):
which there's tons of resources, not just natural gas and oil,
but there's a lot of that but there's also a
lot of rare earth's geranium, iron, tin, zink, you name it.
It's it's quit wanting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
One for the Athabaska basin. By the way, know all
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
They're they're auditioning to be a Chinese calling is what
they're doing, and they're gonna find that that's a really dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
There's you know, there's a difference here. So the current
uh mess that's being used to justify this this this thing.
Also high speed rail has been announced by by Justin
Trudeau right before he stepped down, and Carney's still pushing
on that is to suppose to supply Europe with the oil,
natural gas of the things that they're not getting because

(01:07:15):
they're they're basically, you know, screening themselves over for the
sake of being victims in a proxy war with Russia.
So they can't get that cheap natural gas and resource
from from Russia. So they're they're trying to create a
situation also expanding pipeline. So there's two aspects of this.
They're trying to bribe or passify the Alberta independence movement,
so that's one aspect of it. On a practical immediate

(01:07:37):
level is just pacify them by give them what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
So they take it seriously enough to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
But then on the other hand, there is like a
long term strategy also when play on the game board,
which involves practically looking at all of these resources. And
the idea for the empire is depopulation number one. So
it gets a depopulation like a world system where we
have zero freedom for the individual and everybody is sat
traps under regional like local control fascist systems for some

(01:08:04):
form of a you know, a high priesthood managing hunger games,
the hunger games. Yeah, that's that's the idea. So we
know that it's the outcome to get there. There are
things that they're willing to do and permit, even though
it runs contrary to the general orientation of the empire,
which is if you have a highly managed culture, then
to allow for bursts of development is adequate or in

(01:08:27):
the mind of an imperialists a necessary evil in order
to put the genie back in the bottle and undo
it later on. And you know they think generationally there
they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
There has to be they have to there has to
be pressure, relief moments, pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Yeah, that's why the Theosophus created the the India Congress
Party and the and to capture the Indian revolutionary groups
under a theosophical British imperial controlled sort of paradigm that
would and that would nudge their their message from being
proper independent into like home rule. A. Uh, what the
British were doing to Ireland and as well, you know
this home rule?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
It's just like good governance or responsible government. Uh, that's
what that's that became the Canadians rallying cry after our
failed rebellions or republican rebellions were put down by the
British Empire. We were told, okay, we're not allowed to
have those kinds of republican rebellions. What we are allowed
to do is the fight for responsible government, you know
as the Fabian way of giving people a little bit

(01:09:24):
more given the illusion of fighting for freedom but not
actually having any of the reality of freedom. So the
same thing like at the time in under John McDonald,
it was good in a sense to have this this
rail development across Canada, but it was a good that
was designed by intention to be undermined in the next
generation when it cut off, So it keeped Canada locked

(01:09:45):
into the system of global control grids of the Empire,
and it kept Canada as a piece of real estate,
as a wedge between the ever present danger of a
US Russian cooperative policy. That's always been the threat of
the Empires, that these would do what people like William Gilpen,
the first Governor of Colorado was doing when he's mapping
out the rail lines that would extend through the Bearing Straight,

(01:10:07):
that people like Sergei e Vita and Nicholas the Second
were even advocating, the first Prime Minister of Russia and
Nicholas the Second who brought in American engineers to Russia
to do feasibility studies in nineteen oh five over like
how much would it cost what would be needed to
build a tunnel aur a bridge across the Bearing Straight.
That was subverted by this you know, new Mesiniite Bolshevik

(01:10:30):
revolution shit afterwards, but the idea was again revived during
war between Roosevelt's people and Stalin's people. They again revived
this idea of the Lincoln Zar Alexander idea of a
bridge across the Bearing Straight. It's documented, it's published from
nineteen forty two to forty five. That didn't work, out
the Rhodes Scholars end up taking control of the US government,

(01:10:52):
you know, with their fabian assets under the CFR, and
instead we got the Churchill gang that took over completely,
and you get this growth of this deep state complex
right inside of the USA domestic and foreign, FBI and
CIA and everything else. So in the five eyes, so
that you know, we're We've got these these things that
Canada has has been used to do at different moments,

(01:11:14):
and I think that I think like Carney did something
like in two thousand and six. He's one of the
architects or co architects of the Canada Infrastructure Investment Bank
as a Crown corporation designed to emit large scale credit
for projects. Now, in Corney's world, he's in his religion,

(01:11:34):
he's a green you know, he's the eco warrior of
Central Banks. He's committed to a world of stasis and
deep the growth. That's his commitment. But to get there,
you might have to permit some growth, to keep Canada
locked into a thing and to keep Canada as a wedge,
because I mean, you know, Putin and Trump have some
made made some progressive, positive motions towards friendship. I'm hoping

(01:11:57):
it could be sustained, especially on the question of the arc,
very important because that that is going to be developed
either into a military hub of a war or it's
going to be a basis of international cooperation with nations
who should be thinking about the future and building a
better future for our kids. Which I think that's what
putin desires, and I think the MAGA orientation is to

(01:12:20):
say yes to avoid war and to build our economy
that way. So Sarne's even said explicitly that there will
be no Canada will never permit for any Arctic cooperation
between Russian and the US. He's explicitly said so, not
even like in not even a throwaway comic. He made
it up a point in one of his recent speeches.
He also said that he signed a treaty with Australia
and Britain to militarize the Arctic. Also to he said

(01:12:43):
yes to there's a weird one to long range missiles
in the Canadian Arctic. That was something justin trueau passed
as a new Arctic strategy for a defense strategy. In
April twenty twenty four was the call for installing anti
Russian missiles also anti Chinese missiles in the Canadian Arctic.

(01:13:03):
So that's that's that was not undone. So my fear
is that there is a trap right now being laid
by the Empire to get the US to fall into
fall into the United States. And that's that's sorry, to
get the United States to fall into Canada. That's what
I should have said. That's my fear is that the
North American Union creeps. That we're pushing this idea of
a European Union within tomorrow for North America.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
It didn't go away.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
There's still there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Under it's a rebranding. They've they've recognized that the brand
was bad, like that it was they had, they have
to do it in a more insidious way. Then you know,
they're not going to get the you know what they wanted.
I mean, look, they've already realized. I think anyone who
thinks the EU is going to collapse, you know, needs
to understand that they're willing to go another fifty years
under a different name and tell everybody they liberated themselves,

(01:13:47):
and that they they're always working on how to transition
one reality into another and make you think it's totally
different while it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Well and this is and so and with that said,
this is why we just have to like make the
case to Alberta and or Saskatchewan and what I said, look,
you just need to like become territories like tomorrow and
stop it and to stop it and to stop all
this ship dead cold.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
To see you can do a color revolution in Quebec.
It's not like they're not ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
You know, we can't, you know, I mean, I'll just
start with the basic stuff, which is that you know,
and I've seen reports of this and maybe you can
like fill it in for me, just to make sure
that I'm correct. But did Daniel Smith actually sign a
pipeline agreement with the United States coming out of Canada?
Is that or is that just an overstatement by a
bunch of you know, frothy American yellow journalists.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I think it was over exuberant. They took a discussion.
I don't know if it was actually signed. I'm just
googling it right now as we speak to see how
far this has advanced legislatively speaking. Because you can't do it, No,
you can't currently, that's right, it wouldn't be signed because
it's currently illegal. According to the British North America grants
the provinces percent authority over what they do with their

(01:15:04):
resources internally, as long as it doesn't cross a boundary
into another province or into another country. So if you
do that, it requires federal approval by Ottawa for that
to be allowed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Yeah, so how about we how about we financed the
damn thing and then they and then they leave and
then we just take the oil. Sounds good to me,
that's the plan. Like, you know, you want to play
legal games with me, you know, you you you line
me fucks, like this is the way we're going to
play this game. Like that's the way we do it.
You know. It's like here, we just drop the money in.
You can't say no, it's tough. We can do whatever

(01:15:37):
we want internally. Well, you can't stop Can you stop
foreign direct investment into Alberta?

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
No, okay, Well I don't see you can seem seems obvious.
Seems like an obvious solution to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
You actually there are certain things that could be done.
But again, this is like like what we saw with
Gustin Trudeau and the Privy Council. They intervene to block
the sale of a major construction firm, Acon Inc. That
was basically going bankrupt because we're not building anything in Canada.
So this this massive construction firm that could do anything

(01:16:08):
was about to be bought by a Chinese company and
the all the shareholders voted unanimously for the sale. And
then the Canadian government stepped in saying that no, that's
that's uh. They vetoed it. And they also forced the
Chinese to divest from a bunch of strategic mining companies
in Canada's so because we're run by the British Empire.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
So the British didn't actually want the only want the
Chinese the fentanyl, and they went and run Indians and
so Canada, but not actually run you know, the construction
the Triads.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
The Triads are run by the British Hong Kong Freemasons
that were created under the Open Wars. So that's the Triads.
The reason why they've been built up here is the
same reasons why the Russian oligarchs were built up in
London was because if they stayed in Russia they would
be in jail. So they were given sanctuary. Their masters
gave them sanctuary on safer terrain in British you know
territories in Australia and Canada, which is why you have

(01:17:05):
so many of these ultra rich, ultra ultra ultra rich
Chinese because if they stay, if they were still in China,
they would be in jail. Because there's been five point
two million members of the Chinese Communist Party that are
that have been like taken down. Some have been given
like life sentences, death sentences somewhere. Two of them were
the former heads of Chinese Interpol was the former justice minister.

(01:17:25):
The former head of the Chinese Central Bank just got
a nineteen year sentence. Because a lot of these were
assets for the same thing that built up this whole
organized global crime syndicate through Taiwan. The KMT operation. The
Hong Kong Triads were a big part of that thing.
And so Canadians look at them and they think, oh,

(01:17:47):
look it's Chinese. That means the government it's all a borg.
And it's like, no, it's not all a borg. They're
here because they would be in jail. And they're here
because just like the Russian oligarchs in Quebec that run
a lot of the like there Arerussian and Albanian oligarchs
mafia operations in Canada that's true. But they're not here
because they're the hands of Russia or Albania. They're here
because we play a role within the British Empire's you know, symphony.

(01:18:12):
It's the ugly symphony. So I think the thing with
Canada is they want to use Canada to seduce China.
So they want to weaken the Russia China bond badly.
That's a high priority in my assessment. Divide to conquer. Now.
The thing that Canada becomes very useful for is that.
And this has gone under Harper for the first time

(01:18:32):
China wisened up and broke away from that. Harper started
pushing in twenty twelve this Canada China Free Trade Agreement,
and he passed omnibus bills overthrowing decades of environmental legislation
that made it easy for foreign companies, Chinese oil companies
to come and buy Canadian us. That's and the idea was, look,
we can make Canadian oil cheaper than Russian oil if

(01:18:54):
you just get your gets like addicted to this this
supply chain then and getting meshed within it within us,
we could In the empire's mind, they're thinking that they
could turn off the taps down the line and they'll
that didn't happen, as it turned out. At a certain point,
I think it was in twenty and seventeen, Justin Trudeau

(01:19:15):
went to finalize the China US China Canada free Trade
Agreement and he landed in Beijing and he was snubbed.
Nobody showed up, there was no red carpet, nothing. He
basically had to get back on the plane and plane
and he came back to Canada and a big embarrassment.
And that was China's way of just messaging out saying
that we know what you are like. At that point,
they knew what the what the plan was for Canada

(01:19:36):
to be used as a honey trap or what is
the word not honey trap.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
But there's something to you know well, and and you
know we're we're doing this podcast the day after the
Brick Summon ended, where we finally got the the announcement
that Power Siberia too, which has been negotiation, which has
been in negotiation, has been the Russians in the Chinese
for about six years over price, not path or anything else,
has been a price was finally settled over the weekend,

(01:20:03):
further solidifying that all of this has failed. It's very
clear to me when you're thinking about all the energy
stuff this, I'll put a quick bow on this that
what Trump is clearly trying to do is make deals
with everybody that's surrounding Europe such that they can that
he and they control the energy flow into and out
of Europe. The Russians just moved their gas supply, more

(01:20:26):
of their gas and oil supply uh into China and Mongolia.
Power slabgery too will go straight through Mongolia and and
uh the and then Europe's only you know, possible path
to get any to get any energy outside of the
United States is Canada. And you know the rest of

(01:20:49):
it is all being shut off the Middle East with
the Saudiast, the Russians obviously. And what Trump wants to do,
of course, is like he told Bonderland flat out, you're
buying or you're buy on our network gas, you're buying
our energy, and we're going to take Canada from you.
Like I think Trump is very clearly going to take Canada.
I'm not kidding when I say this, and I'm not

(01:21:10):
saying this is some ultra maggot hard or four dchess guy.
I'm like, no, strategically. We have just laid out why
this needs to be done and the way you destroyed,
the way you destroy there is just one last mine.
The way you destroy this plan of the British is
to leave them rump Canada, and rump Canada is you know,

(01:21:32):
basically Ottawa and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
It's too d risk. It's to de risk what seems
to be you know, like like if it if it's
all sort of a pathology of fear that comes to
the surface when you know, Americans say something triggering. That's
one thing, but I think a lot of people are
looking at Canada as not a threat today but a
place where they're going to build a threat for the future.

(01:21:56):
And there's going to come a point where that's it's
going to become policy to reverse. You know, the Canada
is not going to be able to go forward with
the things they're currently saying out loud in a way
that isn't going to eventually get American attention. And once
that attention is there, good luck trying to run the
table on us, because you know, the US doesn't have
to really give a lot of effort to you know,

(01:22:16):
arrest whatever Canada tries to do. You know, there's going
to be there's certainly a lot of nuance to it.
But but you know, America has a lot of cards
to play, so you know, hopefully Canada figures out how
to throw out its problem right then, you know, without
having to you know, go all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
The way to this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
I do have a kind of a quick question about
the implications of the of the when Canada act. So
if there's cross provincial tariffs prior to this, and we've
got let's say we've got a pipeline coming down from
Alberta or Saskatchewan and into the US getting oil or

(01:22:59):
pro whatever it is from one province to the other,
to use that existing artery in the past would have
involved a tariff, right, like an internal tariff. So if
could there be some unforeseen circumstances or could this be
the actual reason why Karne's doing something we otherwise would like?
But could there be some unforeseen circumstances an internal development

(01:23:21):
like building of private roads or just trucking product like
forget forget the politics of new arteries, i e. Pipelines,
but like this makes all the pipelines in anywhere and
let's just say b C Alberta, Saskatchewan Northwest territories where
all these resources are. It suddenly removes previous barriers to
get those those existing commodities to existing arteries. And that

(01:23:44):
seems like all an internal Canada investment thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Number one, keep Canada of a wedge between US Russian
friendship and collaboration economically. Number two right to persuade China
that we've changed. So China, like I said, they said
fuck you to Canada back in twenty seventeen when they
basically recognized what we were as a hub of the
British Empire, the same thing that has been obsessively trying
to undo every civilization and that did the centric of

(01:24:12):
humiliation in the Opimores. So those they're basically way of
saying fuck you. But number two, now, I think Carney's
job is to try to persuade the Chinese intelligencia that, look,
we're changed. We have the same bad guy, the same
bully hurting us is also threatening you big bad Americans.
Look we're the same, and look we have high speed
rail that we're going to build. And look we can
be a country too, just like you. When we could

(01:24:33):
do centralized planning and we could build you know, pipelines.
We could build rail as well. We're not like a
green basket case. We're not an eco eco freak basket case.
You can trust us now. We're different. And I think
it's part of the marketing that they're trying to do,
not because they really want a Canada kind of special friendship.

(01:24:54):
It's just that they want to destroy ultimately. China is
currently working with Russia, and I mean, you know, they're
serving as a foundation of economic vitality for a lot
of countries of the world looking to to think and
build long term to end of colonialism, and that has
to be undone. And so I think that you know,

(01:25:15):
it's being marketed in a certain way to ultimately destroy that.
It's not just Canada is not just an anti republican nation.
We're anti human nations. So anytime there's there's humans being creative, humans,
growing and building and going outside their limits, that has
to be undone. And so the assets of the British
Empire are deployed to do that in any way possible,

(01:25:36):
even if it takes the form of a Chinese or
a Russian or an American, it'll it'll be done that same.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Said purpose you said it before, when you said Tavstak
you know Savestock.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's fucked up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
The more you learn about that, the more you're like, Okay,
I don't even know about any of this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Fun this. This seems like a good place to end
Canada as the anti human nature nation or fake nation
or synthetic nation, or.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Canada as Tavistock two point oh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Dah Canada Stabstock two point oh man might even be
the name of the podcast. Guys, this has been a
phenomenal Matta. Give a quick shout out to your movie
and where they can people can find it, and I
will make sure that it's in the show notes and
we'll do the thing. Folks.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Great, Yeah, go to the show notes, watch the mark
Karnei's dystopic vision or dystopic pedigree, and also, oh yeah,
huge rude oh the voice one of my Buddi's great voices.
That's who you're going to hear narrating. The other thing is,
if people are listening to this and you're going to
be in or around Ontario, Cynthia and I we're going
to be in Toronto for there. One of our films

(01:26:45):
on the Hidden Hand behind UFOs is going to be
played at the Toronto Film Festival on Saturday Saturday night.
You can go to the event writer or go to
my website for that information. Substack is a great way
to get that information to get a ticket. The next day,
we're going to do an afternoon symposium on darkige renaissances
with some more appreciation for the culture, the cultural war,
so people can get a ticket to that too on

(01:27:06):
Matthew Eric dot substack dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
If you'd like excellent, that seems it seems pretty out
of the box that you would be at the woke
Toronto Film Festival. I find the subversion of Canada as
tavistock kind of I don't know, delicious. Maybe this is
the proper word. So that's awesome. We're We're We're gold,

(01:27:32):
gust and Guns. He's Dexter White on Tom of the Loongo.
You can find me on Twitter at TfL seventeen twenty eight.
You can find him at extra k White uh patroon
slash gold, Goats and Guns. You guys know the drill.
You guys be well, take care, talk soon, keep your
stick on the ice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Thanks guys, A faster time

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