Grants Rants #190: Granny June Flori
Granny June and I react to the slap and more importantly, Liza Minelli at the Oscars. I rant about the #RHONY reboot news, Granny tells off Andy Cohen, Something is up with Wendy Williams and we talk about the Bold and Beautiful’s 35th anniversary episode. That and more now
Granny June and I react to the slap and more importantly, Liza Minelli at the Oscars. I rant about the #RHONY reboot news, Granny tells off Andy Cohen, Something is up with Wendy Williams and we talk about the Bold and Beautiful’s 35th anniversary episode. That and more now
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Broadcasting from New York, New York. It's Grant's Rants Hollywood Talk, coming
to you from Granny June's kitchen.We're reacting to the slap and more importantly,
Liza Manelli at the Oscars. I'mranting about the Roney reboot. Granny
tells off Andy Cohen something is upwith Wendy Williams. And we're talking about
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The Bold and the Beautiful's thirty fifthanniversary episode that in more. Starting now,
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let the ranting begin. It hasbeen a minute. I have not
been able to do the podcast fora lot of different reasons, mainly because
I've been busy and just been takingon other things. But you know,
I'm here. I'm currently in BroadIsland, and I am with Granny June,
and welcome to the podcast once again. Hi everybody. I haven't been
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around for too long either. Ihad to I was in the hospital for
a while with a stroke. ButI'm okay now. Yeah, I'm doing
pretty good. So she's a deathfor the third time. Yeah, yes,
So we're lucky to have you backon the podcast. Yeah, it
might be the last one I'm doing. Who knows the same here? Who
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knows. I'm just trying to looka little more present with in life and
and just do this when I can. There's been not going on, but
you know, ultimately, UM,we have a little podcast here. There's
there's a few things we have todiscuss, and we're ready to get into
it. Let's talk about the oscarsnow. By now everybody has seeing it.
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I'm not here to break any news. UM. I have no interest
in award shows. I never did. Um. I mean they're so fleeting
to me, these moments that they'rehearing gone in a minute. I don't
care about who one what, whogot snubbed where. I don't care about
it. But we have to reactto it. Why not? I want
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to get your take on things.Well, those oscars should be just for
the people in the industry, becausenobody outside of the industry really cares who
got what for what or who gotwho for what? You know. Yeah,
so, I mean they should justbe for the people that are interested
like that. Now, if you'reinterested talking about what happened with that Will
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Smith, oh yeah, we mightas well. Yeah, let's react to
that. Yeah, okay, whatdo you what did you think of the
slap? My idea of Will Smithis that I never liked will Smith.
To me, he's a poor loser, and and he's he I remember,
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and I think that it was heway overreacted, and I think a lot
of it was for publicity. Maybenot, but look at all the publicity
he's gotten since it happened. Sohe can cry all he wants afterwards and
apologize, but he's still got allthat publicity. It may not be good,
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but he's still in the wine light. You know. If he was
looking for attention, that got it, but I got him the wrong kind
of attention. Yeah, I don'twant to misspeak, but I think there's
some type of like tweet or aninstagram. But they were like joking that
they were there to cause trouble afterwardsor something like. I don't know how
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true that is, but like Ijust I caught that. It just seems
like to me, it was abad look all around. I wanted to
see the reaction that people were gonnagive this. I thought the women of
the view first of all, Ithought they were going to defend him,
and I was waiting for them tolike really victimize Jada. And you know,
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oh Jada, she suffered some alopecia. Oh, he's just defending his
wife. I thought they were goingto go that route, but for the
most part, they all really denouncedhis actions, and I think they should
have. I think it's good thatpeople aren't really defending him. He does
have his defenders, but I viewthis as like with people, like the
way I view Donald Trump, whereI just feel like I don't want to
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hear any defense of it. Idon't want to hear a defense of will
Smith the way that people defended Trump'scertain tweets and actions. I just don't
want to hear it. I don'tthink that it's a defensible thing. I
think it's a bad look for him. I don't I really don't care about
him either way. I'm not onanyone's side in this other than I think
it was wrong, and I'm gladthat people are looking at this and saying,
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yes, he has work to doon himself. That was an incorrect
reaction. I'm bad that he's notbeing celebrated for it. And I thought
that the narrative would be he's justdefending his wife. Let him do what
he wants to do. But I'mglad that people are saying, no,
this isn't the right action here,and I think it's a really bad look
for everyone involved. I mean,this could have been like the VMAs,
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this could have been like a smallaward show. To have physical violence like
this, you don't expect the sideof the Academy Awards. It just makes
everybody involved look bad. And youcan imagine how awkward it must have been
to sit in that room when he'scalling out, yelling out, using the
F word. You know, hisvoice echo throughout the whole theater. He's
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very, very immature, and he'sgot some definite personality problems. He really
should be punished for doing what hedid, even though he was standing up
for his wife. But they claimthat he and his wife don't have a
very good relationship. I think it'slike what works for them. But they've
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talked a lot about their relationship,I think to a degree, like they've
said a lot, they not toa degree quite a bit. The people
have speculated and had a lot ofcommentary on their marriage and their relationship and
all that. So maybe this wasa breaking point, but it doesn't defend
it's there's no defense in my opinionon this, So I really, like,
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really don't care too much about it. Like that. I mean,
I don't know. I mean itwas pretty shocking in certain ways, but
also like you know, this willbe a blip on the radar screen in
a week. I mean, whoreally cares, you know, I mean,
I don't care about about him andhis wife. The only thing is
it really in marriage. I don'tcare about anything. The only thing is
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he screwed himself. He ruined thenight for himself because this was supposed to
be the biggest knight in his careerto win his first Academy award, and
it's tainted by this negative cloud ofhis own actions. So it's it's a
shame for everyone involved. It's justa bad look for the Academy, for
Chris. I mean, Chris's joketo Jada was such a lousy, crap
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joke. It wasn't It wasn't funny. I don't really find him that funny.
It was just it was just tome, like everyone looks bad in
this. So I really don't evenknow what he said that caused the uproar.
Yeah, I mean it was justa poor joke about her appearance,
which you know, she does havethe alopecia and all that. But I
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mean, I would say. Also, Will was laughing on camera. Of
course it affected his wife. ButWill is a comedian. He started off
as a funny guy on TV.Now he's this dramatic actor, but he
knows the game of comedy. Sothat's another point kind of that's like m
overreaction. Yeah he should know.But anyway, they resurrected Liza Minelli.
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Yeah, now, how old.Well she's seventy six. Oh wow,
to me, that's young. ButI can't when I saw Lady Gaga taking
her out, Lady Gaga was dressedto the nines, I mean, all
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gussied up with the head do andeverything. Now, I think Lady Gaga
is furthering her career by taking careof the elderly, like she took care
of Tony Bennett and became so closeto him. And now Tony Bennett is
like the out of the scene becausehe's he's got Alzheimers and he's not performing
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anymore. So now she's adopted Lisaand Allie, you know, and she's
gonna go around with Lisa now,and I hope they do that. I
don't know if Lisa's up to it. I mean, I would like to
see Liza to something, But Idon't know if she could barely read the
prompter. I mean, I thinkshe was. I think it was a
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combination. My personal take is thatshe was probably very, very nervous and
also, uh, you know,she's got stuff going on. She's probably
suffering from something, you know.I think it was a combination of both.
Also, she's been kind of reclusive. She's not in the public eye
very much, and that's like thebiggest stage you can take these days.
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Yea. Well, she's been nothingbut praised for her help with this,
with helping you know, reveal theBest Picture nominees and all that. She
really is in that elite class nowwhere she can't be criticized. And I
feel this way. I just aswhen we talk about pop artists, I
get reamed if I tell people thatI don't really care for her current music.
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Ganga is on that level where youreally can't talk against her. I
feel like a lot of people arereally really they ride hard for her,
you know, so this really puther over the top. You know her
in the Angelics around Yeah, yeah, but the thing is with the Lady
Gaga. Um, it's okay thatshe teamed up with Tony Bennett and now
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she's taking Liza Minnellie under her wing. I don't know if how long or
what, but she really doesn't haveto. She's very, very talented on
her own. She doesn't need anymore gimmicks and she she doesn't need any
more elderly to get her further alongin the business. And maybe she's doing
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it for the right reason, butto worry about taking Liza Manelli out on
the stage, wow, I feelthe same way. I feel like Gaga
takes on all these gimmicks, andreally I'm tired of the gimmicks myself.
I don't know, I'm just Ienjoyed the stunts in the beginning. I
love a good stunt, but likenow it's like, you know, I
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kind of agree her career stands onits own, and I think that she's
part of that part of that likeelite class of celebrities that are just like
the Oprah level where they're just untouchable. Yeah, you know, and that's
you know, everyone's up for tobe this Grant's friends. We're all here
to you know, to share ouropinions. But I feel like I gotta
be really careful with her because Gagais on this level now, you know,
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And I don't know. Good forher, I guess, but I
do like the Oscars recognize Liza fiftyyears from winning her Oscar for the Cabaret
for the Best Leading Actress. SoI'm glad that they gave her an opportunity
to do it, and it wasit was good to see her, I
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guess because she's been so reclusive.But um, yeah, I don't really
know what else to say about theOscars. I'm kind of out of it.
I think I made a tweet Iwas like, I just I don't
even have an opinion really about this. I feel like I should, but
I don't, becaus have have gonetheir time. It should be just something
for the entertainers alone. Yeah,I think a lot of these shows could
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be, um, like a dinnershow, you know, if you give
the awards while you're having dinner.You know, It's just it doesn't need
to be such a spectacle because theratings aren't there. I don't know how
this one did usually look at theratings. I didn't for this one.
Um, they're boring and they aren't. They like three to four hours long.
And that's why I say a lotof these awards are given to people
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in the industry alone that know themwell. The mutual admiration society is on
display. Yes, so I meanit should be just for them. You
don't care, well, let's talka little bit about Real Housewives of New
York City. I know you don'twatch, but it's there's a big change
happening. They're rebooting the original showand there's going to be i'm spin off
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Rony throwback. I really didn't knowhow to feel about this. My initial
reaction was why. And then AndyCohen gave an interview, and I was
kind of like, why is thisclown giving an interview. He's the one
who's the executive producer of this show. They let these shows go to part
and then they wonder what happened tothem. So he gave an interview to
Variety. I read the whole thingthey talk about that Real Households in New
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York had a bad last season.But I don't think New York is in
dire shape as OC and sometimes BeverlyHills. But here's the thing. Now,
Andy is going to say this newreboot of Real house Sides is going
to be very diverse and multicultural asit should be and it should reflect the
women of New York. But he'sgetting all this credit. But don't forget
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he was one of the original creatorsand executive producers of the original, So
why can't we hold him to thestandard that the original wasn't diverse at all.
Now, all of a sudden,we all have to celebrate the fact
that he's, Oh, he's gonnahe's going to give us a diverse slate
of women. He should have donethat all along. Why are we giving
this men so much credit? Thereare a lot of people involved that are
responsible for making these decisions, notjust him, but in this article.
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I mean, it's like, Ifeel like he's getting praised the whole time,
but I don't see anybody. Idon't see him taking any credit for
the fact that the show did poorly. There's the author the journalists. She
pushed him a little bit on whywhere things went wrong, and he wrote
it off saying, I think we'veput last season of roning and there's so
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much scrutiny and trial that I justhate to rehash. Well, you're gonna
take responsibility for the project and theshow. I think that they let these
shows gay on the vine it wasnever acknowledged that the show did poorly as
far as like the Bravo because theydidn't have a reunion. He spun everything
in the press all along. Hewent on to say that they only had
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five housewives. Well, whose faultis that you're the executive producer? They
shot it during COVID, that's anexcuse. They've shot tons of houselive seasons
now during COVID, because it's beenaround for two years and they've had good
seasons and bad seasons. And Ijust thought it was crazy that now he
is going to cash two more executiveproducer checks because he's got the OG version,
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and now he's going to have thenew version. So certain people only
fail up. Well, end ofrant. My opinion of that is that
this Real Housewives of New York they'vebeen on since two thousand and eight.
Now he's going with a different cast. I feel like saying to him,
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get going with a different cast.All these Housewives shows have run their gamut,
do you think so people are reallysick of them? They become in
order to stay on and keep peopleinterested, they've become more and more vulgar.
True, these shows have really gottenit. They just said a lot
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of things that really shouldn't even besaid on regular television. And I mean,
he's trying to ring out what's left, and there's not much left.
I feel like saying, Andy,it's over. You've pressured these shows and
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wrung them out until they're dry.Nobody is that interested in the Housewives.
Don't even bother trying to make He'strying to make people excited about starting a
new housewife. Well it might bemulticultural soul. What that's nothing new.
That's been going on for a longtime. And so I mean, don't
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get so excited about an old conceptbecause that's all you're doing. And this
show. You got to come upwith something else, and you're gonna have
to use your brain and you can'tplay. You can't play with the housewives
for too much longer, because allthese Housewives shows have all run, run,
run, run, and now they'regoing to run away because I am
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not that interested anymore. I watchedtwo or three of them, and as
I said, I watched Housewives ofBeverly Hills, which I'm not interested anymore,
the Housewives of New Jersey, andthey have become so vocal. I
haven't watched a frame of it.So I mean, if you have to
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take all these curves to make thingslast, then it's time to give up.
You've had the easy road all theseyears. Now you're going to use
your brain and think of something else, not just a new show of the
same concert. I've been talking aboutHousewives now for ten years, starting with
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After Buzz, and I have tosay I liked them in the beginning,
when it was more of the absurdity. Yeah, these shows have gone so
down in my opinion that I don'tenjoy them anymore. I actually didn't watch
for a little while. I watchedThe Ultimate Girls Trip because that was a
fun take on things and it wasnot about drama. But when you look
at when you look at New Jerseyspecifically, and a lot of these other
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shows, it's about destroying marriages.It's one show that trying to one of
the ouselves. It was trying toout one of the suns in Salt Lake
City. It's just it's gotten sopersonal and below the belt. It's not
fun for me to watch anymore.I don't need that heavy drama. I
like the absurdity of these you know, people going on vacation or wearing an
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evil I had. I used thatexample all the time because that's the level
of pettiness that I like enjoy withmy reality TV. This now with getting
all these husbands involved and divorce andtrying to set people up, Yeah,
that's it's just too serious. It'sbecome very, very wicked because like you
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said, like you said at thebeginning, they have to keep pushing the
envelope, so they go lower andlower and lower. And now I knew
at some point I would want totap out, and I'm very close to
that for the most part. Honestly, I'll say it on the podcast.
I kind of have. I don'tenjoy It's not musty TV for me anymore.
I totally love the concept of themindlessness of watching. I loved Ultimate
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Girls Trip because it was just likean easy watch that I love. I
love an escape, But I don'twant to see people take down families.
Oh, I mean, it's becomevicious, That's what I mean. I'm
over it. It's vicious. Yeah, I want to have fun with the
shows. Yeah, he's making moneyon people's problems. That's what it's come
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to. Yeah, and now he'sgoing to add another credit to the resident.
I haven't keeping the old ones around, to keep them fighting on the
sidelines. Yeah, come on,yeah, well that was I was interested
to get your take. We're moreor less aligned. Let's talk about Wendy
Williams. There's not a lot thatwe know that's going on here with her
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health. No, I haven't watchedWendy Williams in a long time, but
um she has that um maat seniorGravis or whatever that is, the Graves
disease. Oh, Graves disease.I don't know what that is. Yeah,
I mean she that's been an issuewith her, but you know,
she's still been able to let Yeah, and I don't know, it's messy.
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She's she created her own Instagram andshe's on there naming names and Laurie
Schiller and all these people that aretrying to get her money. They're trying
to put her in a conservative shipallegedly. Yeah, And I just felt
so bad for her because she hadone of the she had like the biggest
platform in New York radio. Thenshe had one of the biggest talk shows,
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that huge platform, and now she'sreduced to defending herself on Instagram,
and I feel bad for her.Yeah, that Dick's claim that she's not
right mentally. You know, shegot paid four million a year for that
for the show. And I usedto like Wendy Williams. I used to
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get a kick out of her.Yeah, and I don't know what she
means when she keeps saying she wantsher money. She wants her money.
Well, apparently they've iced her outfrom her accounts. She can't even look
at simple statements and things. It'sit's a messy situation. It looks like
people turned on her that were closeto her. But it's very unclear in
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my point of view, is thisanother Britney Spears kind of thing. It
could go that way. It lookslike probably not of her personhood, but
it could be a conservatorship of herstate, which means somebody manages her money
that but she wants access to it. Now. I don't know where she
is mentally. I'm not a doctor. I do have a friend that worked
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on her show, and they saidthat it was always kind of a fear
that like she would, you know, go take it too far. She
was definitely kind of a little bitoff. I guess that's the right word
to say. She's a special kind, you know, a little bit off.
But does that warrant a conservatorship.I mean, I know, I
don't think really much does I'm notreally for them. As you know,
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with Free Brittany and all that,there's just a lot we don't know about
this. But the show she's justliving. I mean, it's weird.
You go on the Instagram, youwatch her show, her face is still
there. But she hasn't been onthe show. And they've had a bunch
of guest co hosts. I've watchedsome now one I did not watch with
Sherry Shephard. Now she's gonna bethe do I guess full time replacement?
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I mean think then they're saying thatWendy can come back when she's ready.
I don't know how how does thatwork contractually, especially if they're rebranding the
show. But I don't care forSherry. You know, I used to
groof on her all the time onthis podcast whatever. I think she's like
a good fit for the hot topicsand all that, but like it's not
a drop for me. I don'tcare for Sherry ship and I haven't.
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I haven't been following her ever sinceshe was on the view, So that's
a long time ago. Well,I think this is a better platform for
her than The View, because Ithink she can she has more uh you
know, pop culture savvingess than newssavvingess. You know. I mean she'll
be going over on the View.I mean Earth is flat, I mean
weird things over there. To saythe very least, you know her,
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she wasn't really the perfect voice forthat type of talk. But over at
Wendy, I feel like she couldhave a good time. But like,
I don't know, I feel bad, Like I'm not gonna watch Sherry.
I just it's just not my thing. But I would like to see Wendy
come back and at least finish outa season and then have her formal send
off versus just kind of disappearing theway she has. I think it's a
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terrible way to end your career.I feel for her on that side of
things. She went on GMA andshe had she gave an interviews and that
she was a complete sound, sound, mind, and body, and that
she only needed two or three monthsuntil she would go back. If she
only needed two or three months,they wouldn't have given a contract to Sherry.
So something is up. There's alot we don't know but I think
there's I think there's a lot moreto this probably is, and we probably
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won't know either what it is.Well, let's let's talk about more television.
I'll just say what I'm watching.Basically, I'm watching this show Love
and Beth with It's Amy Schumer's showon Hulu, about two and a half
episodes in. I think I shouldquit while i'm ahead. I thought it
would be funny. It's about anolder millennial. It's very relatable. But
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I'll be honest with you, Idon't want to watch anything relatable. I
don't. I just want to relaxand have a laugh and escape. I
know the reality of what it isto live as a millennial. I know
what it is to live in NewYork. I don't enjoy the show.
I think I should quit while onmy head, I haven't laughed once.
Yeah, I can't. I can'tsee the laughability in any of these new
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new so called comedy shows because theywere all like dark comedies. Yes it's
I don't know. I don't seeanything funny about them. Now what are
you watching? Should we discuss thebold and the beautiful? All the bold
and the beautiful? It's um limpingalong and you know, it's the same
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characters all the time. They justkeep playing musical chairs with each other.
Um. Now of course, umthe evil one is back. Yeah,
but they had God, they keepplaying over and over what she did with
the with the a bottle. Youknow, we know that it change the
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label. It is so redundant aboutso many times we know that she changed
the label. And of course youknow they're playing up Brook she is so
uh it's like almost as if shecommitted murder. Oh, I know,
just because she she took a drinkand and you know, and of course
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it was done by You've gotten peoplein their fifties arguing about kisses and all
that. It's so absurd and noteven in a good way. It's just
kind of an eye roll way.Yeah. Now, they had the thirty
fifth anniversary episode. I know you'rea fan of Jack Wagner. He made
an appearance. Yeah, but Imean Jack Wagner in that white uniform.
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I mean, what the hell wasthat all about? Well, he was
I guess a sailor. He wasintroduced as a sailor, I believe when
he was introduced on the show yearsago. But they had this I'll just
for those who do know who,we're still listening. Um. They had
a anniversary episode where one of themain characters had all the men in her
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life come back. Yeah, andthey all got like a scene and then
at the end they very awkwardly stoodbehind her. Yeah. And it was
very weird. And not only thatthe main man that she's with on the
show, the real super couple ofthe show, they recast this the actor
and that the actor has no chemistrywith this actress, and it just was
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very disjointed. I don't know.I thought the episode was gonna be way
better than what it was. Tome, it was very, very elementary.
The only thing that got me atthe end of that episode was the
music Unforgettable, because that song wasone of George's and mine favorites. Unforgettable.
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Yeah, So you can relate that, not the couple that was dancing
together, because that Ridge, ifhe doesn't clean himself up, I'm gonna
go over there able to raise himmyself. He always looks so damn grungy.
He's not a leading man, andhe plays the whole role just by
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standing there and making facial He makesdifferent kind of facial facial whatever you call
him. I mean he hasn't sayanything actions. Yeah, he tilts his
head and he makes either a littlelittle grin or a quizzical look, or
he raises his eyebrows, and youknow, he gets through half the shows
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by all these facial expressions. Price. I wish I could make money doing
that. Yeah, I'm sure he'sgetting paid well too. And sometimes he
looks so bloated. Well, yeah, his face looks bloated, so he
hasn't slept good. Maybe he hadn'ta night before, a drunken audio something,
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because that's how we looks. Yeah, he is for a leading man
on a soap opera. It's rough. I don't know why we look at
the show out of loyalty, pureloyalty, pure habit. Yeah, I
look at it so I can talkabout it with you. Yeah, and
because I love Sheila. But it'sbarely worth my time. I mean really,
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I mean it's like it recycle scripts. I swear I know it.
Yeah. Yeah, well it wasnice getting together again. We don't know
when it will happen again. Ourlives are so diverse. Yeah, and
you're busy and I'm recuperating. ButI'm doing well, and I'm glad I
was able to do this. Yeah, and I'm glad that I could get
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back and say hi to do differentpeople at listen. Yeah, I feel
like we picked up where we leftoff. Maybe I'll be around for another
one. Who knows, who knowsfrom day to day to our Yeah,
I know. And I've just beentaking on another n stress and trying to
get settled, and it's been youknow, a lot of different things to
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keep track of, so you know, this is the Grants Rants is a
lot of work, so you know, I'm trying to keep all the balls
in the air. Okay, Well, hopefully you'll hear from us again.
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to you from Granny June's kitchen.We're reacting to the slap and more importantly,
Liza Manelli at the Oscars. I'mranting about the Roney reboot. Granny
tells off Andy Cohen something is upwith Wendy Williams. And we're talking about
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The Bold and the Beautiful's thirty fifthanniversary episode that in more. Starting now,
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let the ranting begin. It hasbeen a minute. I have not
been able to do the podcast fora lot of different reasons, mainly because
I've been busy and just been takingon other things. But you know,
I'm here. I'm currently in BroadIsland, and I am with Granny June,
and welcome to the podcast once again. Hi everybody. I haven't been
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around for too long either. Ihad to I was in the hospital for
a while with a stroke. ButI'm okay now. Yeah, I'm doing
pretty good. So she's a deathfor the third time. Yeah, yes,
So we're lucky to have you backon the podcast. Yeah, it
might be the last one I'm doing. Who knows the same here? Who
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knows. I'm just trying to looka little more present with in life and
and just do this when I can. There's been not going on, but
you know, ultimately, UM,we have a little podcast here. There's
there's a few things we have todiscuss, and we're ready to get into
it. Let's talk about the oscarsnow. By now everybody has seeing it.
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I'm not here to break any news. UM. I have no interest
in award shows. I never did. Um. I mean they're so fleeting
to me, these moments that they'rehearing gone in a minute. I don't
care about who one what, whogot snubbed where. I don't care about
it. But we have to reactto it. Why not? I want
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to get your take on things.Well, those oscars should be just for
the people in the industry, becausenobody outside of the industry really cares who
got what for what or who gotwho for what? You know. Yeah,
so, I mean they should justbe for the people that are interested
like that. Now, if you'reinterested talking about what happened with that Will
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Smith, oh yeah, we mightas well. Yeah, let's react to
that. Yeah, okay, whatdo you what did you think of the
slap? My idea of Will Smithis that I never liked will Smith.
To me, he's a poor loser, and and he's he I remember,
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and I think that it was heway overreacted, and I think a lot
of it was for publicity. Maybenot, but look at all the publicity
he's gotten since it happened. Sohe can cry all he wants afterwards and
apologize, but he's still got allthat publicity. It may not be good,
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but he's still in the wine light. You know. If he was
looking for attention, that got it, but I got him the wrong kind
of attention. Yeah, I don'twant to misspeak, but I think there's
some type of like tweet or aninstagram. But they were like joking that
they were there to cause trouble afterwardsor something like. I don't know how
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true that is, but like Ijust I caught that. It just seems
like to me, it was abad look all around. I wanted to
see the reaction that people were gonnagive this. I thought the women of
the view first of all, Ithought they were going to defend him,
and I was waiting for them tolike really victimize Jada. And you know,
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oh Jada, she suffered some alopecia. Oh, he's just defending his
wife. I thought they were goingto go that route, but for the
most part, they all really denouncedhis actions, and I think they should
have. I think it's good thatpeople aren't really defending him. He does
have his defenders, but I viewthis as like with people, like the
way I view Donald Trump, whereI just feel like I don't want to
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hear any defense of it. Idon't want to hear a defense of will
Smith the way that people defended Trump'scertain tweets and actions. I just don't
want to hear it. I don'tthink that it's a defensible thing. I
think it's a bad look for him. I don't I really don't care about
him either way. I'm not onanyone's side in this other than I think
it was wrong, and I'm gladthat people are looking at this and saying,
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yes, he has work to doon himself. That was an incorrect
reaction. I'm bad that he's notbeing celebrated for it. And I thought
that the narrative would be he's justdefending his wife. Let him do what
he wants to do. But I'mglad that people are saying, no,
this isn't the right action here,and I think it's a really bad look
for everyone involved. I mean,this could have been like the VMAs,
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this could have been like a smallaward show. To have physical violence like
this, you don't expect the sideof the Academy Awards. It just makes
everybody involved look bad. And youcan imagine how awkward it must have been
to sit in that room when he'scalling out, yelling out, using the
F word. You know, hisvoice echo throughout the whole theater. He's
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very, very immature, and he'sgot some definite personality problems. He really
should be punished for doing what hedid, even though he was standing up
for his wife. But they claimthat he and his wife don't have a
very good relationship. I think it'slike what works for them. But they've
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talked a lot about their relationship,I think to a degree, like they've
said a lot, they not toa degree quite a bit. The people
have speculated and had a lot ofcommentary on their marriage and their relationship and
all that. So maybe this wasa breaking point, but it doesn't defend
it's there's no defense in my opinionon this, So I really, like,
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really don't care too much about it. Like that. I mean,
I don't know. I mean itwas pretty shocking in certain ways, but
also like you know, this willbe a blip on the radar screen in
a week. I mean, whoreally cares, you know, I mean,
I don't care about about him andhis wife. The only thing is
it really in marriage. I don'tcare about anything. The only thing is
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he screwed himself. He ruined thenight for himself because this was supposed to
be the biggest knight in his careerto win his first Academy award, and
it's tainted by this negative cloud ofhis own actions. So it's it's a
shame for everyone involved. It's justa bad look for the Academy, for
Chris. I mean, Chris's joketo Jada was such a lousy, crap
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joke. It wasn't It wasn't funny. I don't really find him that funny.
It was just it was just tome, like everyone looks bad in
this. So I really don't evenknow what he said that caused the uproar.
Yeah, I mean it was justa poor joke about her appearance,
which you know, she does havethe alopecia and all that. But I
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mean, I would say. Also, Will was laughing on camera. Of
course it affected his wife. ButWill is a comedian. He started off
as a funny guy on TV.Now he's this dramatic actor, but he
knows the game of comedy. Sothat's another point kind of that's like m
overreaction. Yeah he should know.But anyway, they resurrected Liza Minelli.
(07:50):
Yeah, now, how old.Well she's seventy six. Oh wow,
to me, that's young. ButI can't when I saw Lady Gaga taking
her out, Lady Gaga was dressedto the nines, I mean, all
(08:15):
gussied up with the head do andeverything. Now, I think Lady Gaga
is furthering her career by taking careof the elderly, like she took care
of Tony Bennett and became so closeto him. And now Tony Bennett is
like the out of the scene becausehe's he's got Alzheimers and he's not performing
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anymore. So now she's adopted Lisaand Allie, you know, and she's
gonna go around with Lisa now,and I hope they do that. I
don't know if Lisa's up to it. I mean, I would like to
see Liza to something, But Idon't know if she could barely read the
prompter. I mean, I thinkshe was. I think it was a
(09:01):
combination. My personal take is thatshe was probably very, very nervous and
also, uh, you know,she's got stuff going on. She's probably
suffering from something, you know.I think it was a combination of both.
Also, she's been kind of reclusive. She's not in the public eye
very much, and that's like thebiggest stage you can take these days.
(09:22):
Yea. Well, she's been nothingbut praised for her help with this,
with helping you know, reveal theBest Picture nominees and all that. She
really is in that elite class nowwhere she can't be criticized. And I
feel this way. I just aswhen we talk about pop artists, I
get reamed if I tell people thatI don't really care for her current music.
(09:46):
Ganga is on that level where youreally can't talk against her. I
feel like a lot of people arereally really they ride hard for her,
you know, so this really puther over the top. You know her
in the Angelics around Yeah, yeah, but the thing is with the Lady
Gaga. Um, it's okay thatshe teamed up with Tony Bennett and now
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she's taking Liza Minnellie under her wing. I don't know if how long or
what, but she really doesn't haveto. She's very, very talented on
her own. She doesn't need anymore gimmicks and she she doesn't need any
more elderly to get her further alongin the business. And maybe she's doing
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it for the right reason, butto worry about taking Liza Manelli out on
the stage, wow, I feelthe same way. I feel like Gaga
takes on all these gimmicks, andreally I'm tired of the gimmicks myself.
I don't know, I'm just Ienjoyed the stunts in the beginning. I
love a good stunt, but likenow it's like, you know, I
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kind of agree her career stands onits own, and I think that she's
part of that part of that likeelite class of celebrities that are just like
the Oprah level where they're just untouchable. Yeah, you know, and that's
you know, everyone's up for tobe this Grant's friends. We're all here
to you know, to share ouropinions. But I feel like I gotta
be really careful with her because Gagais on this level now, you know,
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And I don't know. Good forher, I guess, but I
do like the Oscars recognize Liza fiftyyears from winning her Oscar for the Cabaret
for the Best Leading Actress. SoI'm glad that they gave her an opportunity
to do it, and it wasit was good to see her, I
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guess because she's been so reclusive.But um, yeah, I don't really
know what else to say about theOscars. I'm kind of out of it.
I think I made a tweet Iwas like, I just I don't
even have an opinion really about this. I feel like I should, but
I don't, becaus have have gonetheir time. It should be just something
for the entertainers alone. Yeah,I think a lot of these shows could
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be, um, like a dinnershow, you know, if you give
the awards while you're having dinner.You know, It's just it doesn't need
to be such a spectacle because theratings aren't there. I don't know how
this one did usually look at theratings. I didn't for this one.
Um, they're boring and they aren't. They like three to four hours long.
And that's why I say a lotof these awards are given to people
(12:35):
in the industry alone that know themwell. The mutual admiration society is on
display. Yes, so I meanit should be just for them. You
don't care, well, let's talka little bit about Real Housewives of New
York City. I know you don'twatch, but it's there's a big change
happening. They're rebooting the original showand there's going to be i'm spin off
(13:00):
Rony throwback. I really didn't knowhow to feel about this. My initial
reaction was why. And then AndyCohen gave an interview, and I was
kind of like, why is thisclown giving an interview. He's the one
who's the executive producer of this show. They let these shows go to part
and then they wonder what happened tothem. So he gave an interview to
Variety. I read the whole thingthey talk about that Real Households in New
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York had a bad last season.But I don't think New York is in
dire shape as OC and sometimes BeverlyHills. But here's the thing. Now,
Andy is going to say this newreboot of Real house Sides is going
to be very diverse and multicultural asit should be and it should reflect the
women of New York. But he'sgetting all this credit. But don't forget
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he was one of the original creatorsand executive producers of the original, So
why can't we hold him to thestandard that the original wasn't diverse at all.
Now, all of a sudden,we all have to celebrate the fact
that he's, Oh, he's gonnahe's going to give us a diverse slate
of women. He should have donethat all along. Why are we giving
this men so much credit? Thereare a lot of people involved that are
responsible for making these decisions, notjust him, but in this article.
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I mean, it's like, Ifeel like he's getting praised the whole time,
but I don't see anybody. Idon't see him taking any credit for
the fact that the show did poorly. There's the author the journalists. She
pushed him a little bit on whywhere things went wrong, and he wrote
it off saying, I think we'veput last season of roning and there's so
(14:33):
much scrutiny and trial that I justhate to rehash. Well, you're gonna
take responsibility for the project and theshow. I think that they let these
shows gay on the vine it wasnever acknowledged that the show did poorly as
far as like the Bravo because theydidn't have a reunion. He spun everything
in the press all along. Hewent on to say that they only had
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five housewives. Well, whose faultis that you're the executive producer? They
shot it during COVID, that's anexcuse. They've shot tons of houselive seasons
now during COVID, because it's beenaround for two years and they've had good
seasons and bad seasons. And Ijust thought it was crazy that now he
is going to cash two more executiveproducer checks because he's got the OG version,
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and now he's going to have thenew version. So certain people only
fail up. Well, end ofrant. My opinion of that is that
this Real Housewives of New York they'vebeen on since two thousand and eight.
Now he's going with a different cast. I feel like saying to him,
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get going with a different cast.All these Housewives shows have run their gamut,
do you think so people are reallysick of them? They become in
order to stay on and keep peopleinterested, they've become more and more vulgar.
True, these shows have really gottenit. They just said a lot
(16:11):
of things that really shouldn't even besaid on regular television. And I mean,
he's trying to ring out what's left, and there's not much left.
I feel like saying, Andy,it's over. You've pressured these shows and
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wrung them out until they're dry.Nobody is that interested in the Housewives.
Don't even bother trying to make He'strying to make people excited about starting a
new housewife. Well it might bemulticultural soul. What that's nothing new.
That's been going on for a longtime. And so I mean, don't
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get so excited about an old conceptbecause that's all you're doing. And this
show. You got to come upwith something else, and you're gonna have
to use your brain and you can'tplay. You can't play with the housewives
for too much longer, because allthese Housewives shows have all run, run,
run, run, and now they'regoing to run away because I am
(17:18):
not that interested anymore. I watchedtwo or three of them, and as
I said, I watched Housewives ofBeverly Hills, which I'm not interested anymore,
the Housewives of New Jersey, andthey have become so vocal. I
haven't watched a frame of it.So I mean, if you have to
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take all these curves to make thingslast, then it's time to give up.
You've had the easy road all theseyears. Now you're going to use
your brain and think of something else, not just a new show of the
same concert. I've been talking aboutHousewives now for ten years, starting with
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After Buzz, and I have tosay I liked them in the beginning,
when it was more of the absurdity. Yeah, these shows have gone so
down in my opinion that I don'tenjoy them anymore. I actually didn't watch
for a little while. I watchedThe Ultimate Girls Trip because that was a
fun take on things and it wasnot about drama. But when you look
at when you look at New Jerseyspecifically, and a lot of these other
(18:26):
shows, it's about destroying marriages.It's one show that trying to one of
the ouselves. It was trying toout one of the suns in Salt Lake
City. It's just it's gotten sopersonal and below the belt. It's not
fun for me to watch anymore.I don't need that heavy drama. I
like the absurdity of these you know, people going on vacation or wearing an
(18:47):
evil I had. I used thatexample all the time because that's the level
of pettiness that I like enjoy withmy reality TV. This now with getting
all these husbands involved and divorce andtrying to set people up, Yeah,
that's it's just too serious. It'sbecome very, very wicked because like you
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said, like you said at thebeginning, they have to keep pushing the
envelope, so they go lower andlower and lower. And now I knew
at some point I would want totap out, and I'm very close to
that for the most part. Honestly, I'll say it on the podcast.
I kind of have. I don'tenjoy It's not musty TV for me anymore.
I totally love the concept of themindlessness of watching. I loved Ultimate
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Girls Trip because it was just likean easy watch that I love. I
love an escape, But I don'twant to see people take down families.
Oh, I mean, it's becomevicious, That's what I mean. I'm
over it. It's vicious. Yeah, I want to have fun with the
shows. Yeah, he's making moneyon people's problems. That's what it's come
(19:51):
to. Yeah, and now he'sgoing to add another credit to the resident.
I haven't keeping the old ones around, to keep them fighting on the
sidelines. Yeah, come on,yeah, well that was I was interested
to get your take. We're moreor less aligned. Let's talk about Wendy
Williams. There's not a lot thatwe know that's going on here with her
(20:11):
health. No, I haven't watchedWendy Williams in a long time, but
um she has that um maat seniorGravis or whatever that is, the Graves
disease. Oh, Graves disease.I don't know what that is. Yeah,
I mean she that's been an issuewith her, but you know,
she's still been able to let Yeah, and I don't know, it's messy.
(20:38):
She's she created her own Instagram andshe's on there naming names and Laurie
Schiller and all these people that aretrying to get her money. They're trying
to put her in a conservative shipallegedly. Yeah, And I just felt
so bad for her because she hadone of the she had like the biggest
platform in New York radio. Thenshe had one of the biggest talk shows,
(21:00):
that huge platform, and now she'sreduced to defending herself on Instagram,
and I feel bad for her.Yeah, that Dick's claim that she's not
right mentally. You know, shegot paid four million a year for that
for the show. And I usedto like Wendy Williams. I used to
(21:26):
get a kick out of her.Yeah, and I don't know what she
means when she keeps saying she wantsher money. She wants her money.
Well, apparently they've iced her outfrom her accounts. She can't even look
at simple statements and things. It'sit's a messy situation. It looks like
people turned on her that were closeto her. But it's very unclear in
(21:48):
my point of view, is thisanother Britney Spears kind of thing. It
could go that way. It lookslike probably not of her personhood, but
it could be a conservatorship of herstate, which means somebody manages her money
that but she wants access to it. Now. I don't know where she
is mentally. I'm not a doctor. I do have a friend that worked
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on her show, and they saidthat it was always kind of a fear
that like she would, you know, go take it too far. She
was definitely kind of a little bitoff. I guess that's the right word
to say. She's a special kind, you know, a little bit off.
But does that warrant a conservatorship.I mean, I know, I
don't think really much does I'm notreally for them. As you know,
(22:30):
with Free Brittany and all that,there's just a lot we don't know about
this. But the show she's justliving. I mean, it's weird.
You go on the Instagram, youwatch her show, her face is still
there. But she hasn't been onthe show. And they've had a bunch
of guest co hosts. I've watchedsome now one I did not watch with
Sherry Shephard. Now she's gonna bethe do I guess full time replacement?
(22:55):
I mean think then they're saying thatWendy can come back when she's ready.
I don't know how how does thatwork contractually, especially if they're rebranding the
show. But I don't care forSherry. You know, I used to
groof on her all the time onthis podcast whatever. I think she's like
a good fit for the hot topicsand all that, but like it's not
a drop for me. I don'tcare for Sherry ship and I haven't.
(23:15):
I haven't been following her ever sinceshe was on the view, So that's
a long time ago. Well,I think this is a better platform for
her than The View, because Ithink she can she has more uh you
know, pop culture savvingess than newssavvingess. You know. I mean she'll
be going over on the View.I mean Earth is flat, I mean
weird things over there. To saythe very least, you know her,
(23:38):
she wasn't really the perfect voice forthat type of talk. But over at
Wendy, I feel like she couldhave a good time. But like,
I don't know, I feel bad, Like I'm not gonna watch Sherry.
I just it's just not my thing. But I would like to see Wendy
come back and at least finish outa season and then have her formal send
off versus just kind of disappearing theway she has. I think it's a
(24:00):
terrible way to end your career.I feel for her on that side of
things. She went on GMA andshe had she gave an interviews and that
she was a complete sound, sound, mind, and body, and that
she only needed two or three monthsuntil she would go back. If she
only needed two or three months,they wouldn't have given a contract to Sherry.
So something is up. There's alot we don't know but I think
there's I think there's a lot moreto this probably is, and we probably
(24:23):
won't know either what it is.Well, let's let's talk about more television.
I'll just say what I'm watching.Basically, I'm watching this show Love
and Beth with It's Amy Schumer's showon Hulu, about two and a half
episodes in. I think I shouldquit while i'm ahead. I thought it
would be funny. It's about anolder millennial. It's very relatable. But
(24:48):
I'll be honest with you, Idon't want to watch anything relatable. I
don't. I just want to relaxand have a laugh and escape. I
know the reality of what it isto live as a millennial. I know
what it is to live in NewYork. I don't enjoy the show.
I think I should quit while onmy head, I haven't laughed once.
Yeah, I can't. I can'tsee the laughability in any of these new
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new so called comedy shows because theywere all like dark comedies. Yes it's
I don't know. I don't seeanything funny about them. Now what are
you watching? Should we discuss thebold and the beautiful? All the bold
and the beautiful? It's um limpingalong and you know, it's the same
(25:38):
characters all the time. They justkeep playing musical chairs with each other.
Um. Now of course, umthe evil one is back. Yeah,
but they had God, they keepplaying over and over what she did with
the with the a bottle. Youknow, we know that it change the
(26:03):
label. It is so redundant aboutso many times we know that she changed
the label. And of course youknow they're playing up Brook she is so
uh it's like almost as if shecommitted murder. Oh, I know,
just because she she took a drinkand and you know, and of course
(26:23):
it was done by You've gotten peoplein their fifties arguing about kisses and all
that. It's so absurd and noteven in a good way. It's just
kind of an eye roll way.Yeah. Now, they had the thirty
fifth anniversary episode. I know you'rea fan of Jack Wagner. He made
an appearance. Yeah, but Imean Jack Wagner in that white uniform.
(26:45):
I mean, what the hell wasthat all about? Well, he was
I guess a sailor. He wasintroduced as a sailor, I believe when
he was introduced on the show yearsago. But they had this I'll just
for those who do know who,we're still listening. Um. They had
a anniversary episode where one of themain characters had all the men in her
(27:06):
life come back. Yeah, andthey all got like a scene and then
at the end they very awkwardly stoodbehind her. Yeah. And it was
very weird. And not only thatthe main man that she's with on the
show, the real super couple ofthe show, they recast this the actor
and that the actor has no chemistrywith this actress, and it just was
(27:30):
very disjointed. I don't know.I thought the episode was gonna be way
better than what it was. Tome, it was very, very elementary.
The only thing that got me atthe end of that episode was the
music Unforgettable, because that song wasone of George's and mine favorites. Unforgettable.
(27:55):
Yeah, So you can relate that, not the couple that was dancing
together, because that Ridge, ifhe doesn't clean himself up, I'm gonna
go over there able to raise himmyself. He always looks so damn grungy.
He's not a leading man, andhe plays the whole role just by
(28:15):
standing there and making facial He makesdifferent kind of facial facial whatever you call
him. I mean he hasn't sayanything actions. Yeah, he tilts his
head and he makes either a littlelittle grin or a quizzical look, or
he raises his eyebrows, and youknow, he gets through half the shows
(28:40):
by all these facial expressions. Price. I wish I could make money doing
that. Yeah, I'm sure he'sgetting paid well too. And sometimes he
looks so bloated. Well, yeah, his face looks bloated, so he
hasn't slept good. Maybe he hadn'ta night before, a drunken audio something,
(29:00):
because that's how we looks. Yeah, he is for a leading man
on a soap opera. It's rough. I don't know why we look at
the show out of loyalty, pureloyalty, pure habit. Yeah, I
look at it so I can talkabout it with you. Yeah, and
because I love Sheila. But it'sbarely worth my time. I mean really,
(29:21):
I mean it's like it recycle scripts. I swear I know it.
Yeah. Yeah, well it wasnice getting together again. We don't know
when it will happen again. Ourlives are so diverse. Yeah, and
you're busy and I'm recuperating. ButI'm doing well, and I'm glad I
was able to do this. Yeah, and I'm glad that I could get
(29:44):
back and say hi to do differentpeople at listen. Yeah, I feel
like we picked up where we leftoff. Maybe I'll be around for another
one. Who knows, who knowsfrom day to day to our Yeah,
I know. And I've just beentaking on another n stress and trying to
get settled, and it's been youknow, a lot of different things to
(30:06):
keep track of, so you know, this is the Grants Rants is a
lot of work, so you know, I'm trying to keep all the balls
in the air. Okay, Well, hopefully you'll hear from us again.
Thank you guys for listening. I'llbe back with more Rants. This has
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