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From the podcast Grant's Rants Hollywood Talk. It's Grant's Rant, small Talk.
Let the rundown continue. We're hereback on the podcast talking about day five
on The Real House Lives, UltimateGirls, Trup ex Wives Club and enjoining
me to continue the conversation, AliCoh and welcome back, Hello, day
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five. It feels like day thirty, doesn't it. I yes, I'm
ready for this trip to got towrap up. This episode put a bad
taste in my mouth. I hateto say, yeah, yeah, I
understand why, Yeah, I feellike we um and I just yeah,
I mean, I talked about thisat the beginning of the podcast. The
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House Lives. The current House LivesProper have gotten so dark and so ugly
from me and so real that they'rethey're they're trying to like take down each
other's husbands, businesses, threatened lives. And now we're getting on this show
the death of children and the threatof this oh god suicide references, and
it's taken an ugly turn and I'mnot enjoying it as much as I used
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to. And I really can onlyblame Dorinda for that. The reason that
it's not fun is because of Dorindaand it's because we're so interested in being
on the show. And by weI mean she is, like she so
badly wants to be off pause,she'll never be off pause. Especially this
is solidifying her place outside of anyHousewives I think. Ever again, yeah,
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I think this is showing people whomaybe not maybe not. I don't
know Drenda as well as as youand I as far as how we perceived
her on the Housewives. This iswhy she was put on pause. I
would imagine it's just she's doing toomuch. It's it's not a positive thing
and it's not fun. And Ireally do believe we're watching like a true
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like you know, like narcissistant workhere. Yes, fortunately, like fame
has gone to her head. Thiscomes up in the episode, but it's
gone to her head, as Joepointing out, Yep, let's get into
it. Yeah, let's do it, because talk about so on full of
hot air, hot air balloon,very good air balloon opening. Um,
what was this five hundred feet offthe ground? Don't waste my time not
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getting out of bed for that.Honestly, First, yeah, it is
first thing in the morning, andall I could think about was, Wow,
Vicky's going to be screaming. That'swhat I thought, but we didn't
hear. She wasn't. She wasokay. I kind of wished too.
It was very nothing. Remember whenshe used to do like the wretching the
us I do, and yeah,I thought we were Yeah, no I
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have you ever done it on airhotter balloon? No, I don't have
a fear of heights. I'd belike Phaedre, I'd be the first one
in that basket just to check itout. But it just seemed like,
okay, like what is the pointof this. We're going up for what
like five minutes each and then justfor Jarenda to look at her property,
Like, I don't just know whatthe point of it was. That really
bugged me. When she's like,just to see the property that I have
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you inherited this? Yeah, thisis not your work, your hard work.
Weird, very weird. I mean, she's made a brand for herself
for the property. There's the maplesyrup, there's oh yeah, it's you
know, I mean all right,I guess yes, she has definitely monetized
it and made it a profitable pieceof land for her. But like,
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I mean, do we really needto celebrate Bluestemen are already than we already
have. No, I'm done.Yeah, well that was that. I
mean, I don't know what elseto say about the whole thing. I
mean, the Jill's are in there, and Louis Vuton in case if you
missed it, In case you missedit, it didn't want anyone that could.
Vicky and Chanelle another really and Ithought of you the other week were
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like that, Chanel top is sougly. This online, I think even
worse worse. It's go to thegap, buy a shirt. It doesn't
have to say anything on it.We get it. You have money.
I it's just because it's Sachiale doesn'tmean it looks good. Right. Then
this whole business comes up about theradio show A frog Pee's on Durrenda.
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The thing that I can't get overthe most is Duranda springs out of bed
after being blackout drunken it before she'swhat of a certain age, she has
no hangover. It makes you reallyscratch my head in many different ways what's
going on here? And not onlythat, but she remembers every single point
of what was said the night beforeregarding Jill at Eva's radio show that is
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weird, and I always find itI never know. I always find it
very confusing when no one is terriblyhungover, you know, seemingly knows what
they said, has zero apologies aboutit. Of course she doesn't. But
I really didn't want to get intothe radio show anymore. I don't want
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to talk about it. Yeah,I do it with just take an ugly
turn, because Durinda is not goingto take any responsibility for this. Basically,
Duranda tells Jill that even Eva thoughtthat she was being thirsty, and
Jill very calmly sat there and shesaid, you know, well, I'd
like to hear her opinion. I'dlike to hear everyone's opinion. I will
say Jill not bothered by Duranda toomuch in this episode. I don't think
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they have any relationship now, theydon't she but Jill, I was kind
of proud of her. She's reallyletting things slide off her back in a
way that I would never I'd beout of that house already. I'd be
out. I'm surprised no one's walkedout yet. It's it is shocking,
but they all that just shows theyall really really really want to be on
camera. Yeah, Yeah, that'sa good point. Yeah, that that
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I think sums it all up.I was I going to say about that.
Um, I had a good point. I wanted to add to that.
I forgot but I'm sure I'll getthere. Jill basically says she just
wanted to support Eva and that's allshe wanted to do. It's all she
wanted to get out of it.Sure, Jill. Yeah. Duranda claims
that she doesn't have this type ofproblem with anybody else in the house.
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Cut to Vicky, Randy and Tamra. So that's half the house. Now
we have receipts again, everything's beingrecorded. You can't get away with anything.
You really cannot tell a lie,and Jill definitely is faced with a
lie that she told. Later we'llget to it, but there are so
many times where they're like, didn'thappen, and no, we can roll
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that all back. We are recordingthis, ladies. Yeah, I would
always be careful on these shows tomake any sweeping statements. I never said
that that never happened, because youknow they're going to find something, even
if it's like pushing the envelope alittle bit into the direction in which they're
trying to push the narrative, likeyou know, but they're going to find
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something that makes you look like anidiot. And the fact that they never
say, well, I probably wouldhave said I don't remember saying that I
was drunk. I would that I'mbeing drunk and probably take a step back
and look at my drinking. Ifcan you imagine being Dorenda watching the show,
because you know she watches it everysingle frame, and not saying like,
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I should probably stop drinking so much. I think I said this last
week. She never looked at herbehavior from her last season on the show
opposite Tinsley and was like, that'san ugly person. I don't want to
be that person. I guess not. She's celebrated for it. Yeah,
she's the only one, I think. I mean, if you look at
Twitter, she doesn't have any fansleft. Um, I don't know,
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although I do it. I wantto give a shout out to my friend
randomly, Ronnie Junior. He doesalso a recap rundown of the Regut the
Real House, and he's really ridinghard for team uh Dorenda. So you
get a perspective on that show.So I encourage everyone he's been he's promoted
our show, and he's a goodfriend. So I want to hear that.
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I really want to know, becauseI do like to hear the other
sides. Yeah, I wonder howwe'll feel about this episode though, because
this is very hard to defend.O. She was the pot calling the
kettle thirsty. She was being complete. She's in denial. She's a lack
of a sense of responsibility. Noone else is allowed to overreact, but
she can overreact like nobody else I'veever seen. It's very much Slance in
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her bias, the whole experiment,the whole concept. I remember what I
was going to say earlier to yourpoint about Jill and things just kind of
like she's just letting a lot rolloff her back. They had this moment
where they had this true Jill thinksDrenda's delivery was really bad, and Durnda
thinks Jill overreacted, and then theyget up and they hug, and I'm
like, you know what, thisis why I loved Roney because they would
kind of like move on where ifthis was Beverly Hills, this would be
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the one scene that they would discussuntil the reunion. Part six it would
never end. So I really appreciatethat, like Jill for the sake of
the day, and to be onTV was like, hey girl, we're
all set. And maybe they'd bringit up fifteen years later too, because
that seems to be happening a lot. But again, I just I was
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sitting there thinking I would never makea truce after someone treated me so horribly
and even to apologize to her sayI disrespect you in your home. Look,
I don't care where I am ifsomeone's disrespecting me, if it's in
your home, like, that's noton me. I see. That's strategy
to me. That's that's Jill sayingI'm the bigger person, um, the
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classy chair. I'm I'm above.Because she keeps saying Duranda's drunk, it's
the alcohol is how you behave,It's it's what you behave. I'm when
you're drinking. So she is reallylike drawing the line between Drenda and herself
and saying this is the angry drunkand this is classy Upper East Side.
Jill's gonna sell you're rug, youknow, with her face on it.
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Yeah, yeah, face on it. That's what's happening here. With her
big Christian do your sunglasses? Anothermoment classic what else happened? There's a
breakfast situation. Eva stays in herone on one not to work face,
but she says that Jill is thirsty. I don't know. I mean I
think Jill, Yes, Jilla isthirsty, but she was also in that
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moment, I think, just tryingto show some form of an interest in
Eva's work. Yeah, that's howI perceive it. To Eva's point,
I think all of it could havebeen settled. Duranda could have stayed out
of it, and Eva could havesaid, look, i'm wearing headphones,
you're not going to hear anything watchingthe works and me so boring, don't
even worry, no, thank you, And it just it exploded to the
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point where we didn't need any ofit. And Eva is really too practical
for all of this. And Ithink that's part of the reason she's not
on the show anymore. It's notbecause of her behavior, it's because she's
just doesn't give us what we need, and that is so much drama.
She's like, I'm a mom,I'm working, I'm doing this, I'm
doing that. I don't know.He's good commentary she is a good commentary.
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Yeah, what else happens? Sobasically, Drenda leaves the room at
this breakfast, and Vicky's really quickto talk about her, calling her a
psycho bitch. The psycho bitch cameout and they're talking about this moment in
her own house. And I willgive credit to Eva, who is like
not comfortable with that, like thatthat's a classy move to be like,
I'm not going to sit here andtalk, you know what about this woman
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when she's in her own house upstairs. So I get that, but it
was classy. But I feel likeEva doesn't see what we all see.
I don't know, because she givesDrinned out pass. Yes, because the
way that Durnda is behaving to meis just so unacceptable, pretty unforgivable,
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and she refuses to take any responsibility. So the fact that she stormed off,
like, look, I get it, don't talk about people if they're
not there. I still will probably, but you know this is real househoves
like you have to, but youhave to, I think. Then she
goes up to Drinna and durandas likeI just like shouldn't care so much or
just care too much? Or justI'm trying to make things so nice and
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I just shouldn't. I guess that'smy problem. That's not the problem.
No, the problem is you're nutsand you're treating people like crap. Yeah,
and you're you're the thirsty one becauseyou're so desperate to be on camera.
I'm not saying Jill's not thirsty,but she is. Between the two.
Many things can be true at once, and many people could be thirsty.
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Yeah, good point. Jill feels, though, feels as though Juranda
has become monster for being becoming famous. She alleges a huge alcohol problem and
again that the famous gone to herhead. I'm well, I'm just watching
the show, so you tell me, you know, I don't disagree with
those statements. Durinda tells Eva,like you said, she's trying, she
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cares too much, no accountability,just like you said. Now, Duranda
thinks that Jill is mad at herfor not putting her on the show,
and there's a flashback later to anold episode of Rony, which was you
know, I don't know, Ican't figure this out. I don't know.
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They ally, but can we justcause spatas bad? They both want
to be on the show. Yeah, And why can't they admit that.
Why can't they just be like,yeah, I really want to be on
the show. But they're like no, no, no, that's not what
I say. Yes, yeah,please, Yeah. The whole thing was
ridiculous. Then we go, afterall this, after all that, from
last night, all this, togo day drinking in an alley. Yep,
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that's that was on the itinerary.And they were going, whether they
wanted to or not. I wantedto get out o the same way Tamers.
I was ready to go. Iwas like Taylor with like the handbag,
like at the door, like wewere leaving, and they're like,
oh no, it's in the backyard. The hotier balloon's right here, and
she's oh, we have to stayhere. But then Tamer said we're leaving
menopause manner, which I did geta little chuckle out of. I thought
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that was cute, and I wasexcited for them to go somewhere so I
could listen to them order lunch andnot have to, you know, sit
around in old mansion. Yeah,a lot of old places. So Vicky
talks about Steve and he would havebeen Steve. She would have been Steve's
fourth wife, and Brooks comes up. The chemistry, the sexual chemistry.
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Brooks I thought works as long Housewivesdead. Well he's clearly not. And
then we had to watch a scenewith him and David Baddour and it was
it's like, I did not needthat. Ghouls, We don't need to
see him again. But the showis too long for this. We don't
need these these flashbacks. We don'tlike that like that. We didn't I
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believe that she was with Brooks,Yes, we know, and we know
that they were real into each other. Yeah, well, put out the
torches because we're heading to the pool, whether they these we want to or
not. Because Drenda already said twiceI hated the pool, the pools hated.
You have to go in. We'regonna go to the pool where we
should we should all do that next. They don't have a choice. No,
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that's what they're doing. And ifyou don't, she's gonna be mad
at you. So do it.Yeah, you bet. And it's money.
She's spending money. She hasn't heededthe pulling years because it's so expensive.
You know what, either be richor don't be rich. Like and
also like you're getting paid the locationsfee to use this house for the show's
gonna pay. You don't think productionis paying the electric bill of a Booster
Manta for that month that they werethere, however long for beginning to end.
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And I was thinking about it too. Maybe there's generators on site that
they rolled in. But I mean, like, come on, she's not
She's fine, She'll be fine ifshe could, if they could bring a
hot air balloon so she could admireher property, she can keep the pool
for a few hours. And Ijust I can't stand how she acts like
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everything costs so much money, orthat she is so put out to have
food in the room. She doesn'twant mice, Like you have a staff,
You have a full time staff whocares like vacuum. I know,
it's not class with the countess,like this really doesn't need to be this
like over the top with her withall these like, oh my god,
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I rolled out the red carpet foryou. It didn't. You don't let
me do anything, I do anything? No, what else is happening here?
Oh my god. Jill's mom isnot a fan of Dorinda. I
like Jill's mom. Gary sends flowersin an apple. Jill thought they were
originally from Dorinda. That really freakedme out. I was like, that
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is very She's so obsessed with whathappened the night before she cannot get over
it. She keeps saying, didyou see what happened to me? Did
you see what happen to me?Oh? Are they from Dorinda? A?
Of course they're not from Dorinda?And remember you have a boyfriend Gary.
But be like she would never She'snot apologizing to you. She doesn't
think she did anything wrong, right, It's very strange that her own house
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for that now. Jill claims atthis point in the episode, she only
wants to be a friend of Thatto me is like a line that I've
heard a lot of former house I'dsay that they you know, they don't
want to be in the thick ofthe drama. They did that, but
they still want to be around.I don't know. I think i'd have
more respect for her if she waslike, yeah, no, I mean,
I'll take what I'm interested in allopportunities. That was a good time
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in my life and I'd like todo it again. I want to know
why, Like, why would youwant to be a friend of it?
Doesn't. Is it for the paycheck? Is it just because you want to
be on TV? Is it totalk about all of your products? Why
just I would love to know afriend of? Is not? It's for
trial runs. We've already seen you. We don't need you anymore. Like
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on Real House of Beverly Hills,Teddy's gone, and yet they keep just
showing her face. It's not funto be a friend of. It seems
like I don't understand, except thatshe really just wants people to see her
face on television. Yeah, that'sit. Just so she is enough to
put former New York City house right. She wants to still be in the
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fray. So Brandy feels like Dorindaand Jill are glossing over this whole situation,
the confrontation, everything that happened,and she feels this is Brandy's opinion
that if Jill makes up with Dorinda, then they'll both field to go back
on the show together. I thinkit's a pretty good point. Once again,
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I trust Brandy's opinion because Brandy watchesthese shows the other women don't.
She's an actual Housewives fan. Sheknows how it works from the inside.
So I think that that could bea strategy. I don't know if it's
the truth, but it could bea strategy. I don't think it's not
a hope and a wish. Likethat's why I think maybe if I'm thinking
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about it now, that's why Jill'sapologizing. She's like, Okay, if
we can just be cool with oneanother, maybe one of us are both
of us can get back on theshow. Let's like scratch each other's back.
Let's do this. And so she'splaying really really nice, but otherwise,
like I would send my mom Gloriato tell Duranda off. You don't
mess with the Jewish mother. Youdo not mess with the Jewish mother.
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Trust me. Now there's a surprise. Have Gloria show up at the last
I would actually, oh, Iwould love that. I would love it
so much. There a season finalefor you, you know. Sure,
I have Joe get revenge on Durandafor not having her have enough airtime at
that costume party. Whatever, momcoming in and yelling, I like that,
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and I want it. I alwayslike an added element, you know,
like mixing a new person in.Like I think these houselives chose would
be really good if they added somebodyin like the middle then they had to
catch up on things and they didn'thave the whole story. I'm like Brandy
and why she called someone the seaword or whatever, Like they don't really
know what's going on so much,so it's like they're kind of playing catch
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up and it's like a mess andthey have their own alliances. Like I
would be really into that. Solike a reverse in the Nation show where
you end with more houselives. Ithink that's a good idea, and I
want to put it out there becausethen you know, you know who the
card reader over there, will,you know, grab something part of it,
and hey, maybe you can bean EP. It's your idea saying
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it here here right now, sayingit. Grant thought of it. I
would love to figure out someone newway to revitalize these shows because a lot
of them are stale and overproduced.So put that on a card and read
it, and we're thinking way toomuch about being in the show. I
missed the days of Bethany standing ina supermarket trying to sell her cupcakes or
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whatever and no one buying. Like, I'm so sick of these women being
celebrities off the bat. I don'tlike it. Anymore. And if you
notice, whenever these women on thisshow, in particular go out, we
saw it at the Red Lane andwe saw it in this alleyway. They
set up a card table and they'realways buy I'm sure has to do with
COVID protocolls, but it's like,yeah, it's like they're so other when
the past you know what they justsaid, A Javier is in the middle
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of Irvine Spectrum and like with themasses and shoot a scene. Now it's
like now it's literally like a scenelike from a TV show, like a
set, like we were whooping itup lights like it's it's fake. We
want to be part of the commoners. We need to be we need to
feel like they're real housewives. Couldn'thave said it better myself, thank you.
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The Red Lion in Derinda orders adirty martini before she even sits down.
Yeah, and she does her wholeserver stick. Was it cute?
No, No, it wasn't.Um. We already like did this on
Roney, so it's not as kitchy. It's like we know, you know,
we know. And by the way, the side note that Red Lion
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and did not look at anything likegot with appeal to me at all.
Yeah, I agree with Vicky.Old everything old. Yeah, I don't
mind. It's you know, it'sin Great Barrington is old. I think
there is a charm to it thatI'm fine with. I don't know if
that's where I want to be whenI watching television, Like, I'd go
there and i'd have a drink,I'd have something to eat. They don't
have blue cheese, which I'm finewith, but you know, bring you
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know what, I'm kind of onVicky's side in the whoop it up factor
of everything. I'm like, let'sdo that, like, let's get out,
let's go somewhere fun. I agreethat place looked like an old museum.
I don't think that would be forme. But what else happens over
here? Oh? Here we go. A producer told Brandy to ask Vicky
about a threesome she had years ago, and I'm convinced that is fact to
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me. Yeah, Brandy's not askingthat. Why would she ask Vicki Gundelson
about a scene that we all watchedfrom season eight years ago? Yeah?
Well, this was the moment wherelike, let's bring up old stuff.
Because we start bringing up a lotof old stuff, a like let's can
we not like, let's get anew situation brewing, we need something brand
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new. Well, Dorinda proposes aquestion. Well, we've talked about on
this podcast, another trope. Sonow here's the question, which it was
only an excuse to talk about herself. She wants to know what disappointed you
the most about being a reality star. For me, it was being put
on pause. You know, thatwas just you know, I'm just gonna
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talk about myself right now. Thatactually isn't a question, it's I it's
just an opportunity for me to mentionthat again, I am on pause,
And I didn't ask for the reasonwhy, because I know that I deliver,
unlike you Vicky, who just youknow, you sleep all day.
I Meanwhile, she I did likethe editors being like, you took this
nap, you took this nap,you took this nap, you took this
that she is just so despicable andalso reality star. Come on, you
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know, let's call it what itis. You're a real housewife, like
you're on a you're well some ofthem refer to each other as icon,
so I'm not really surprised that that'sa true star. I think it's gross
either way. Yes, uh yeah, you're ring again, so dedicated.
But you know, Vicky with theknaps is the She is the issue.
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So now it all turns on Vicky. VICKI thinks that eight days is a
long time. I'm telling her,I agree. Eight days is a long
time to go away, to standin somebody else's house. You know that
term like give men after a fewdays? Fish stinks like you know what
I mean? Like, yes,eight days as a house guest, not
in your own bed, your ownbathroom. I'm ready to go. And
you're not on maybe two nights ina situation like that. You're not at
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a luxury resort where, by theway, you get room service, like
you can do whatever you want.You're following Dorinda's rules. I was chatting
with my friend today about this becauseyou brought this up in the first episode
Home Court Advantage, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
one's gonna pay attention to Direnda.I will say it right now.
I was completely wrong because I couldadmit that I'm wrong. I'm like Dorenda.
But yeah, no, she isso keen on being in control because
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it's her house and she's just keptsaying my house, my house, my
house. I wouldn't want to bethere for eight days either. And then
Vicky also she's broken up with shewas sick once again, like she didn't
come in in a good headspace.And I think she she's shown me thus
far she could be pretty fun whenshe's feeling good. But then Dorinda has
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to be so horrible to her andjust say, like, why would you
You're being so negatively, you're beingnegative. Yeah, she calls her a
victim. She actually barks at her, you need to be present, likes
it's too bossy. She's really assertedherself above these women. And I don't
think it's I don't think it's right. But next right out, right after
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that exchange, then she goes inon Jill. Now she turns to Jill,
slurring her words, a total mess, going, I didn't known about
the radio show. You know,the thing was a mess. She said,
you remember working right years ago?I'd have that written down to you.
That was the meanest thing she said. And I know that's cutting for
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Jill. Oh it was, butit's also like you're not working either,
You're not doing anything good. PointI thought the same thing, like you're
both sitting on the same show XWives Club. Hello. Yeah, so
I thought that was ridiculous. ThisDerinda thing with this put on pause is
I'm beginning to really think it's totalbullshit. And I thought it was bullshit
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at the time that Andy would evenplay around like that, like such a
clown game to do, you know, like we're gonna keep you what on
contract, but we're not gonna playyou. Is that what it is?
Like? It's just it was sucha stupid move in general, but there
were still now like two three yearsin, still to want this on pause.
No, you're done. She needsto stop trying to make that chappen.
She after this show, I thinkshould be done and we're gonna get
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into the real low blows. Butlike I I was excited for her,
and my it is dipped like thestock market for me. I mean,
I my interest in her is likelow and I really it's really like her.
Yeah, and she said I wasa show that I was on a
show you're no longer on Gross.You're not on it either, Like what
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am I missing because you're not onPausitive? It's this is I feel crazy.
Jill distances herself from Darrenda. Inoticed. She She basically says,
you know, she was only onlyseeing the show, and um, you
know, you know that's what it'sall about. It comes down to the
show. And then Darrenda tells her, you ruin the night, So that
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to me would be all right,I'm leaving. I don't need to sit
here. I don't need this freedinner to be assaulted verbally by you,
to be insulted by you. Ididn't ruin anything, Jill, as she
pointed out, she doesn't even drink, right, She's not the one being
insane. I don't want to comeacross as total Jill like cheerleaders either,
I mean on this show, likebecause I genuinely felt bad for her in
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this episode, but like how muchof that one? I mean, she's
still a fool, but I enjoyedher. But I mean, I guess
if you had to choose between thetwo, I would I could. I
can relate to jail. Yeah,then I have been away where I have
been, the odd man out,the fifth the seventh Wheel. Sure,
I know what it's like to nothave anyone in your corner, and you
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know you have to kind of sitthere and how you react dictates everything because
you know they're all going to talkabout you the minute you leave the room.
Yes, and she's playing it correct. She's being the classy one.
You're absolutely right, and I thinka lot of I felt that way too.
I've been the odd person out andyou have to act cool, and
she's acting very cool. But thenthey bring up Bobby's funeral And did I
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think that was the right choice thatthey were No, I think it is
ghoulish and strange. Yeah, andshe's like, I would never ever bring
cameras Bobby's funeral outside shore and yeahthat's what did Wow. Yeah, outside,
yes, inside. Never, that'slike a technical like that. I
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was. I was believing Jill untilthey went a little deeper on that.
Oh that doesn't look right. Iwasn't see set on the email. That
was my assistant, that was herway out. Yeah. So then again,
I'm saying this as if it's fact, because I believe it is.
A producer then told Taylor to askBrandy about Adrian Malouf surrogate from nine years
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ago, like that, this wasthe stupidest moment of the episode from me.
Yeah, Taylor going off from thepast to Brandy. This was someone
in her ear. Yeah, TaylorCarrot, she claims she has all this
unfinished business and all this pent uptension. Right, not if you live
a good life, If you havemoved on and nine years have passed and
you're happy with your new marriage,I would not be worried about Adrian Malouf.
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Yeah, who cares. But Iwonder I have a few thoughts.
I'm like, yes, maybe probablyprobably a producer. I think you're right.
However, I wonder if she wentinto this saying at some point I'm
going to bring this up because Istill feel upset about it. Which,
by the way, was it avery screwed up thing to do? Yeah?
It was not cool? I meanbusiness, No, it wasn't.
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It wasn't her business. Um.I think I don't know why. It's
not my business either, and Ishouldn't even really be talking about it.
But since it's on TV, Iam, Um, I don't know why
it's such a big deal that sheused to surrogate. That's again like I've
never been through any of those situations. But I don't know. It just
seemed like not a huge reveal.But again, if her kids didn't know
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anyway, Um, yeah, Ican't imagine anyone cares anymore. I think
it was a real strange thing tobring up, but it did lead us
to many strange places. Oh that'sthat's putting it mildly. I agree,
Yes, it definitely jumped off fromthere. Yeah, Brandy says her she
and Adrian are cool. I don'tthink Adrian's friendly. I don't think she
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can save as brand dear friend.I think that, but it probably probably
it. Viggy thinks that they shouldstop living and looking at the past,
which I'm like, yes, Iagreed, it's not going to go anywhere
in a good way. Then wego back to was you know the season
one of Beverly Hills that those arethe classy ladies, those are the successful
ladies. Right, Taylor clearly hasno idea how to fight. Is talking
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about like a cinnamon stick and jumpinginto water and like trying to like pat
herselves the other woman on the backthat even Phaeder was like, this is
so petty, Like I can't doyou think Taylor wrote something down said I'm
going to say something about a cinnamonstick and successful pot of water, and
then she like mixed it up inher head so didn't come out because a
Critics Choice award just thrown in there. Wow, like that was someone became
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prepared or try or not. Shehad notes, She had notes, and
I think they got smudged. Yeah, yeah, they go wet, yeah
in the pool by the point,Yeah, I think a producer at a
fire under Taylor's ass in this moment, because she was with the finger again
across the table at Brandy. Yeah, that that energy, and it was
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just like, why are we doingthis? You guys already had your moments.
I don't know why this sitting resurrectedother than hey, this is what
we're gonna do. The moment forme with Taylor was cringe. Brandy hild
her own this is when not when. I don't think you. I'm ap
towards anyone, but I'm not endorsingyou know that Brandy's behavior was correct nine
years ago. But also like likeagain, like Jill said, like this
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is some old let go. Wedon't care anymore. We've gotten past this.
Adrian Maluva is a millionaire, liketen, she's fine, she's one
thousand percent. Okay, yeah,she's fine. The whole thing is ridiculous.
Brandy thinks that Taylor is acting likeJill and Dorinda in that moment,
and then Dorinda, here's her name, and she like leaps across the table
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basically saying that, you know she'suh that, Oh, Brandy only was
up to one night stands, Soa slut shame you know, classic boomer
move would be to slut shame someonevery good point yep. Yeah. And
also she said you could you're onevery show. I don't remember what shows
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has she been on. She wason the pump Rolls for a second.
Brandy did do a lot of realityTV, but that's her her brother.
She did do, Yeah, CelebrityBig Brother, Celebrity Apprentice, she did,
I didn't camp show. Like,yeah, she's been around, but
that's she said this in the past, Like that's how she feeds her kids,
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Like that's her career, Like,yeah, what else is your model?
She's not gonna go like, youknow, get her CNA license at
this point, like that's just whatshe does. And you know she's because
she makes damn good TV, tobe honest, And I'd say, it's
a good thing that Brandy is onthis show. And you know, I
just got a show with Brandy onit. So people are gonna watch marriage
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boot Camp with her um actually hisfamily therapy. I'm sorry, Okay Derby
with her father and Renee Graziano fromMob Wives, but of my all time,
all the time. Oh, thatwas explosive. I'm sure I need
to check that out. That soundslike some TV. I'd like to live
for Renee Graziano and I just cannotget an offer. And I wish you'd
back got my TV. Um whata mass? Just a mass for m
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to the s what else happened overhere? A lot? Um? Brandy
goes low. She says, youknow, well, was the season successful?
When you and the audio goes out, they cut it out, which
they should have. I'm glad theydid. I think that's disgusting. She
she's a fool, Yeah, she'sI think we can infer something involved shooting,
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you know what I mean. Weknow that her Taylor's husband, you
know, died from suicide. Sothat's that's what she was saying. Yes,
um, probably not very eloquent wayno, Yeah, so okay,
that was definitely a low blow.I'm not defending Brandy for that. Yea.
She fired back. Even Phaeder waslike, if you're gonna like throw
shade at Brandy, she's gonna comeat you with like, you know,
(35:05):
fire or something like that. LikeI hate to use the word bullets because
I don't like talking about guns.But she's right like you, if you
are going to come at her,she's gonna say some things that no one
in their right mind would ever saybecause that's who she is. And I
think it was horrendous, suspicable,all the worst things. I didn't I
wasn't shocked. Yeah, Brandy walksaway. She doesn't regret saying it at
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all, So you know, Brandy, definitely, she says, and then
she returns to the table. Now, now we've got drunk Torenda, Like
do she came and string a sentencetogether? There is no breaks in between
the words. She is just aabsolute total drunk Tonda. It's not even
cute, it's not even funny.She puts her fingers in Brandy's face and
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then threatens her, how about ifyour son died? Now we know from
watching Brandy in the pass that donot bring up her kids, her babies
as she calls them. This wasso crossing the line. It was and
also had nothing to do about anything. It was a it's such a different.
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It's zero point. There's no pointmade. It was her. I
mean not to repeat, but Taylor'sabusive husband committed suicide. It was horrendous
and just horrible for everyone involved.I feel terrible for a Taylor over and
over again every time I see her, I just think about it, and
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it makes me really upset. Youcan't imagine how she feels. None of
my business. But that has nothingto do with Brandy's children, and we
should never compare those things. Itmakes no sense, and Dorinda needs to
go away. I'm so sick ofher. I'm done with her. I'm
trying to follow the logic of like, okay, so she's trying to show
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like if somebody close in your familydied like that would be upsetting. Like
I just don't get why to bringkids into it. It's just a low
blow. And I watched this episodeand I may have, you know,
maybe taken it too far in mymind, and I was like, how
was this woman not canceled after thisepisode? You know, she We've watched
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like a steady escalation of really badbehavior. Now they're bringing in children and
throwing it in. Some one saysthat they could die that as an example
for a petty fight from something thathappened years ago. Uh, the whole
thing is just so wrong and putsuch a bad taste in my mouth with
this show. And this is notwhy I started this podcast, seriously warping
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it. This is not why Idecided to watch it. I watched it
to escape these dark moments on theseshows because too much. And to Brandy's
credit, once again, she didcompletely everything wrong. But instead of beating
out of trendo, which I probablywould have done one although I mean,
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look, everything was wrong in thiswhole thing, which she walked away,
went to the bar or said giveme vodka now. The bartender said right
away. Right An thought he wasgreat and killed like took a minute,
took a breath, could self control, unlike Duranda who had none. And
then Durrenda goa in her face.I couldn't. I could not believe in
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God. Brandy had fire in hereyes at that moment. I don't know
how she didn't lay hands because becauseshe's just being separated, she's being separated
and frasier. I love the phasersays she was great, she's been great
and funny, but she was likethese are just wealthy women talking about rumors
that I'm like, you just definedreal housewives? What have we been?
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What do you think we're watching?Yeah, Duranda said, in Brandy's face,
you made a mockery of people dying. Well, both of them are
wrong here, but the fact thatyou brought up someone potentially you know,
sling child old is hard. Imean, like, so there's no winner
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here, no, no, no, no. But she could have said,
and we know that analogies do notwork on these shows. We learned
it from Jersey, like you can'tdo it. She could have said,
what if something like that had happenedto you? How do you feel if
someone said something like she could havethere? I first of all, stay
out of it, Tranda, Like, this isn't your fight, right,
but if you want to try tohave a teaching session, like what you're
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not going to do. But Brandywas about to just be like, you're
right, this is wrong because she'slike, I love you so much,
Brandy, and then she said that, and Brandy was about to lose it.
That to me is something you don'tcome back from. I don't need
those types of people on My livesRanda show exactly who she is in that
moment. Brandy is the same whackof that she's always been and it's just
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like a mess. I don't Idon't think they can move on from this.
No, personally would not want toon either side. And if I
would Taylor, I wouldn't want tobe bothered with Brandy, if or Rinda,
I wouldn't want to be bothered withany of them, especially Brandy.
If I were Brandy, I wouldleave. I'd say, you know what,
she should live. That is abridge too far from me. You
know, I'm here, this isa job for me. You don't need
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to bring my kids into this likethat. That's grounds for walking out.
And she's she's said enough stupid things. She digs her own grave a lot
of the time. But yeah,I think I'd be absolutely done because how
are we going to come back fromthis? I can't see it happening,
And I'm wondering because the end ofthe episode is they're leaving the Red Lion
in But like, we don't havehousewives after dark. We don't see them
(40:34):
going to bed. Vickie's not chokingon a pill, So like, are
we picking this back up at thehouse because we know they got an extension
on this show, but I thinkan extra episode they did. I had
not I heard it was supposed tobe seven and they made it eight.
Okay, wrong, So I'm wondering, like when they go back to murder
Manner over there, oh my god, you know Drenda opens up six spottles
(40:57):
of vodka, then what's gonna happen? So I don't know what time,
but it is they stopped showing thetime stamps, so right that was it
was inopportune time to stop showing ustime stamps because now we need to know
where we are because I don't know. Yes, I agree, I'm gonna
keep watching. I'm gonna keep doingthat the rundown for as long as we
have the show. But this weekshowed me why I took a break from
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Housewives. But there were still momentsof gold in here, thanks to phaedre
Parks, thanks to camera. Youknow, I enjoyed Jill in this episode
partially, you know, Brandy isa showing us why she is an All
Star and showing us why she isno longer on television, why she's on
pause forever. But and I thinkwe can bring this up as being the
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best part of the entire episode becauseit really gave me such a laugh.
Is this your final thought? Sure? Yes, my final thoughts when Phaedra
says to Brandy she could be yourmama, and Brandy says she's only five
years older than me, and He'sjust like, oh okay, sorry.
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The bartender loved it. Jill lovedit. I loved it. You I
know every I cut the tension witha knife. Yeah, everyone was dying
laughing. And that's why we keepwatching these things, for these little nuggets
of happiness. Yeah, we havesuch darkness and then suddenly somebody will say
something that just cracks me up.The absurdity is why I watched these shows,
(42:30):
and Grass watched you know, I'mnot seeing it as much. I'm
not seeing you know. That's whatwith Phade was switching on her. Wig
loved that, Like that was sucha funny moment for me. That's the
type of stuff that I like tosee, is like the goof and like
in the Atlanta when they would,you know, Charrey and Nan you would
go after each other with all cosmeticlooks. You need to get your teeth
fix, like all that type ofstuff. Like I love that stuff that
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no we're talking about dead children.Is just it's where do we go from
here? It's horrendous. Is thisrock bottom? I hope? So I
don't know. Just when you thinkthey go low, they go lower.
Yeah, yeah, so I don'tknow. My final thought is m Duranda
once again being shady towards anyone whodoesn't want to go with her plans.
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Brandy said she was not comfortable withgoing up in the hot air balloon,
and when they go out, Brandysays, oh, it looks like this,
like looks like it's like not enoughair in it, and then Duranda
says to her, well, you'renot going up girl anyway, so what
do you care? Like she's sobitter if these plans are not carried out
when everyone is there to show upor we saw it again with Vicky this
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week and the pool had to beheated, like you mentioned, they all
had to go into it, andit's just it's too much of all.
This is my final thought. I'mtired of this being the Duranda our cruel.
Cruel cruel that is, and that'sa personality trait that's not just new.
This is something that has been simmering. We're finally seeing I think who
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she truly is, and that isjust an awful human being. Yeah.
Last thing I'll say is there wasa meme and it was on Twitter and
it was a picture of Brandy andit said the TV villain and then there's
a picture of Dorinda and it saidthe actual villain. Yeah. I don't
know. I'm not here just toyou know, poop on Dorinda the whole
time. But we are commenting onwhat we are given and I don't like
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what I'm seeing from her. Soand by the way, am I excited
to watch next week? I reallyam. I want to see what happens
from here. I want to seewhere we pick up exactly. On that
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